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Let me just start with James O'Keefe.

James O'Keefe has revealed all kinds of stuff for the last 20 years, actual crimes.

And the New York Times just, they don't have time for anything, James O'Keefe.

In fact, nobody in the mainstream media has anything on James O'Keefe.

They just, we, you know, he's just not credible.

But when it comes to Supreme Court justices,

two justices were recorded at a Supreme Court gala last week.

This woman was posing as a Catholic conservative and the New York Times will have you know

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Yes, here's the headline.

Alito and Roberts secretly recorded at a gala share markedly different world views.

Well,

do they?

Let's go through this article in 60 seconds.

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Wow, they got them this time, Stu.

We're done.

We're cooked.

We're toast.

Finally.

It's finally happened.

We knew it could happen at any moment, and finally it has.

According to the New York Times, Justice Samuel A.

Alito Jr.

told a woman posing as a Catholic conservative last week that a compromise in America between the left and right might be impossible.

And then he agreed with a view that the nation should return to a place of godliness.

My gosh, what are the details?

I don't think I need them.

I think I have everything I need to know.

So let me just start on the first phrase before we get into all of the details.

Do you think, Stu, that we can

compromise our way out of this situation?

It would be an interesting thing.

I think perhaps if we kill half of the babies,

That might be a good way to compromise maybe half of each baby,

the right half or the left right so just cut the baby in half leave the head alive or the feet alive one of the two i think that like that's a good abortion

compromise i think a lot of these issues are just built for compromise glenn right for instance um i like capitalism they hate capitalism uh i like small government They hate small government and want a big oppressive government to do everything for us.

I'm not sure how we compromise here.

Because it used to be live and let live, you know, because we all agreed on one thing, basic human rights.

We no longer believe in those things.

I do.

You do.

We still believe in the Constitution.

I'm not trying to change or destroy the country.

I'm trying to save it.

Man, may God help us from the people who are trying to save us, you know, and save democracy.

My gosh, those people are, they're killing it.

Because we're not a democracy, we're a constitutional republic, and there's a huge difference there.

So Alito goes on to say, one side or the other is going to win.

How controversial is that, Stu?

It's actually how our election process works.

It's how all of this works.

One side wins and the other side does not win.

And everyone's trying.

My understanding of the Biden campaign, for example, is this would be their goal, right?

To try to win the election.

Right.

To try to win.

Yeah, yeah.

There can be a way of working, a way of living together peacefully, but it is difficult because there are differences on fundamental things that can't be compromised.

For instance, I don't think freedom of speech can be compromised.

That's why I stand for people like Roseanne Barr when she was in trouble,

James Gunn when he was in trouble from Marvel.

I really disagreed with what he said.

How about this one, Bill Maher, when he came out right after September 11th and said,

you know, at least their guys had courage.

Oh, really?

Wow, that's what you're going to say about the terrorists that flew the planes into the World Trade Center?

Well, yep, he was on ABC.

They fired him for it.

And I stood up.

I don't agree with what he said.

But my point was, ABC, you're running a show with Bill Maher called Politically Incorrect.

What part of that title didn't didn't you understand?

So I stand up for people's free speech because I believe in it.

They don't believe in it.

They don't believe in free speech.

They don't believe in the Second Amendment.

We know now they don't believe in the fourth, the fifth, and the sixth amendment just because of what they've done with Donald Trump.

I believe in all of the amendments.

Well,

I don't know.

The tax one and the Fed creation is kind of a problem for me, but anyway, one side or the other is going to win.

There can be a way of working together, but this can't be compromised.

Miss Winsder pressed Justice Alito further.

I think the solution really is like winning the moral argument.

Wow.

You know what he said to that?

I agree.

I agree.

So wait.

That's how extreme he is.

You should try to advocate for your views and hope that they become the majority view.

Yeah, win the moral argument.

Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wow.

That has the word moral in it.

Oh, my gosh.

Now, of course, the left uses moral language all the time to justify what they believe.

No, no, no, no.

That's totally different.

That's totally different.

Okay.

How?

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's women's health care.

That's women's health care.

Like, you have a right to,

you know, an abortion, for example.

They would never advocate for that on moral grounds.

Well, no, they haven't been lately.

You know, they're shout your abortion, you know.

So they haven't been lately.

I don't think that's a moral argument, but,

you know.

The word moral is in it, and Alito said it, so it must be bad.

She went on and said, like, people in this country who believe in God have got to keep fighting for that to return our country to a place of godliness.

You know what he said to that one?

I agree.

Whoa.

Sky's out of control.

Again, I don't understand, and it kind of probably boils down to basic human rights.

See, we can't compromise because you're saying that I

can't fight for a return to a decent, godly society.

I don't, I really don't care what religion you're in.

I really don't.

So, but I can't fight for a return to the

time-tested principles of the Ten Commandments.

That's a problem.

If that's a problem for you, then there is no compromise.

Just like you, you know, you were like, well, you know, we should have abortion.

You know, we're going to compromise.

We're going to say, not in the 543rd trimester can you kill a baby.

Well, I really don't think we should kill babies.

Oh, you can't compromise here.

No,

no, you won't compromise.

And we're the ones saying that it's murder.

So Chief Justice Roberts, according to the New York Times,

was also secretly recorded.

And he pushed back against Windsor's assertion that the court had an obligation to lead the country on a more moral path.

Would you want want me to be in charge of putting the nation on a more moral path?

That's for people we elect.

That's not for lawyers.

She then pushed him on religion.

I believe the founders were godly, like we're Christians.

Like we're Christians.

I think that we live in a Christian nation and that our Supreme Court should be guiding us in that path.

Justice Roberts said, I don't know if that's true.

I don't know if we live in a Christian nation.

I know a lot of Jewish and Muslim friends who would say, maybe not.

and it's not our job

to do that.

When she pressed him on whether she thought there was a role for the court in guiding us toward a more moral path, he said, no,

I think the role of the court is for deciding cases.

Now, let me ask you, do you think Ginsburg would have answered this way?

No, I mean, she had interviews where she basically

said the opposite.

Not to mention, they have these things that Supreme Court justices do, and this is amazing, where they outline their opinions in their opinions that they write.

No, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Yeah, no, no, no, they don't actually share their opinions

in the opinions.

Yeah, like when they have these things called opinions, and what they do is they put their opinions in them, and they write them down, and they get printed and posted online.

You can go through them, and they describe what they think about each individual case.

And

that's what Rito does, and that's what Ginsburg did.

Yeah,

you might say that anything that these two guys said,

it's already been written down in some of their opinions.

Only dozens of times, only dozens of times.

So,

all right, it's really wow.

Wow, that is

well.

Uh, she said, you know, the reason why I recorded them is because I wanted to get them on the record.

So, you know, again, dismiss your opinions, opinions theory.

She said, so the only way I had was to record because I had to record them.

I had to have the proof of that account.

Otherwise, it was just my word against theirs.

And what is your word exactly that the Supreme Court justices said, yeah, I think people should fight for what they believe in.

And no, I really don't think the role of the court is to lead people, you know, to moral platitudes and higher ground.

I think that's what we have elections for.

Wow.

Good thing she got them on the record because

what a burn that is.

What a giant zilch of a story.

Zero.

They got nothing out of this.

And what's, I think, more fascinating than the actual content, which you dutifully just went through, honestly, it was hard to even get through because it's so stupid.

But it's like the New York Times has written 20 news stories on the Alito flag situation since it began.

Yeah.

20?

I don't know.

It's something like that.

None of them have had any content in them.

They've all been nothing.

You have a situation here where they basically attempt to do a bad James O'Keefe impression.

with Supreme Court justices.

They get nothing out of it.

And there are multiple stories in the New York Times today describing it, including a situation in the encounter with Alito's wife, where

she unknowingly,

not knowing she's on the record, completely disproves all their previous reporting.

She actually comes out and says, yeah, no, it's me with the flags and like, he won't let me put him up.

And like.

She says

Alito's excuse for all of this saying that he had nothing to do with it.

They were completely skeptical of.

Then a story comes out where he's not, she's not known that she's on being recorded and completely disproves their previous reporting.

And they report it like they got her.

Like,

they never report on anything that James O'Keefe does.

They threw the guy who was recording the Planned Parenthood people in prison over recording them.

And here we are, like they're acting like they have something when nothing occurred at all.

It is

completely reversed from all reality.

and that's exactly where they seem to want to be.

Well, I have to tell you, I think maybe you're only saying this because you haven't heard what she has on Alito about the power of the court.

Oh, yeah, that's probably where they, that's probably it.

I didn't know.

This is where they got this.

I mean, this is like hands down.

This is breathtaking.

This is breathtaking, the gall of this guy.

Alito said at the same event last year that the court couldn't identify the individuals who had leaked the Dobbs decision because the court doesn't have the power to subpoena people or to testify

to subpoena records, phone records, or other things like that.

They don't have the authority.

He said, we don't have the authority.

Windsor, the lady with the recording device, oh man, she got him this time.

She goaded Alito into

agreeing that he wishes the court had more power.

And this is what he said.

This is what he said.

You know, she's like, the court's power is limited.

I mean,

you got to have more power.

Gotcha.

Listen to this.

Well, we're not a law enforcement agency, you know.

It's people that have certain rights to privacy.

So law enforcement agencies can issue subpoenas and get search warrants and all that sort of thing.

But we can't do that.

Our marshal did as much as she could do, and that's very limited.

Gotcha.

Look at the power-hungry monster this guy is.

Wow.

New York Times.

Devastating.

Devastating.

Can we do a GoFundMe for like a James O'Keefe media training session for this woman?

Like, I don't think she understands how to do this.

I don't know.

There's got to be a drink on a date or something

with Samuel Lito to get him to say something that you're going to like.

Well,

I understand one one of our astute writers at The Blaze is coming out with a story about Miss Windsor that you're not going to want to miss later today.

Oh,

interesting.

Is she advocating for her views?

I hope we don't find that out.

You know, oh, no, she's advocating for her views.

And you've seen some of her views, and

you'll be like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

She was the one behind that?

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with Russell Brand

and then ending with Donald Trump Jr.

Other guests, Marjorie Taylor Greene and InfoWars founder Alex Jones.

Oh, okay.

One thing the special guests seem to have in common, support for Donald Trump.

Yeah, he also has Russell Brand, Tulsi Gabbard, Megan Kelly, Kid Rock, Roseanne Barr.

I don't know, InfoWars, Glenn Beck, and Marjorie Taylor Green.

You know what I'm saying?

That's just a pile of nut jobs there.

Oh, okay.

Well, thanks for pointing that out, Deseret News.

I really appreciate it.

You guys are, man, you're getting more and more

conservative

every day.

And I don't, you know, here's the thing: I don't have any secret tapes, you know, of you that I could expose because

I just read your written word and

it's almost like your opinions are in the news stories.

Who would have thumped that?

That's crazy.

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We're glad you're here.

Stu,

I hate to even mention Juneteenth because it is such a ridiculous thing outside of Texas.

In Texas, it's a known holiday and it's a big deal.

But Juneteenth for the rest of the country is meaningless.

But Joe Biden Biden was at a Juneteenth concert yesterday, and he was rocking it.

He was rocking it.

I'm going to show you some video if you're watching on the Blaze.

Stu, maybe you can do the play-by-play and describe what's happening here.

Go ahead, cut one.

Biden standing in the crowd like a statue.

Everyone around him dancing.

He's literally not moving a muscle.

Oh,

my God.

There's music playing, and the dancing is going on, but he...

I don't want to love nobody.

but

it almost looks edited that he's like

so motionless and stiff,

like a corpse.

Now,

you know, it's interesting you brought up that editing thing because that's just such a short clip.

You know, you don't know.

You know, he probably was rocking it

just a couple of frames later.

So here's the full clip, five times the rate.

Five times the speed.

Here we go.

Cut to.

Oh my gosh.

What is going on?

Everyone around him is moving and he's not moving at all.

And especially the guy in the sequin dress, three people down from him.

Look at this.

Now they're sitting.

Yeah, he's barely moving.

That's very strange.

Very strange.

Now, it would be better than him actually dancing, and that may have been his thought process there.

Of like, if I try to dance and die,

I'm not sure there was a thought process there at all.

I'm not sure of it.

No,

yeah, yeah.

Not, not, not, not sure of that at all.

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Did you see this come out yesterday?

I did, yeah.

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Yeah, I'm not even sure what she was even talking about.

I need AI to explain what she was trying.

I don't...

The velocity of a ping-pong table and the height and how you hit it.

Okay.

I don't think the velocity of the ping-pong table is particularly notable.

The ping-pong ball.

Yes, yes.

You're right.

Ping-pong table, zero.

Good job.

Velocity of zero.

The Joe Biden velocity when he's dancing.

Right.

That Joe Biden velocity.

It is really impressive on what AI can do.

You know, it's just also really

spooky on what AI can do.

And, you know, Ray Kurzweil's idea is that it'll make us all better.

It will make us all,

it'll free up our mind.

If we don't have to think about the calculations, we can think about deeper things.

No.

No, we're not going to think deeper things.

We're not going to store even more knowledge.

We're probably going to watch more porn and play more games.

Yeah.

You know, that's probably what will happen.

You mentioned, I think,

yesterday, Glenn, the Doug Bergum origin story, like the Doug Bergum prequel to the superhero he's become today.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was essentially this in a nutshell.

He had a bunch of calculations he did by hand, and someone showed him that a computer could do it for him more quickly, and he decided to go into the software industry, right?

And it's like, that is kind of what

this stuff is going to do.

But we have good evidence as to whether people start thinking more deeply about things when that revolution happens.

No, we just start looking at dumb seven-second videos on TikTok.

Like, that's what we do.

We turn our brains off completely and never think again.

Yes, exactly right.

Exactly right.

And how's that going to work out for us?

I don't think really well.

Let me go to cut six here.

This is Nancy Pelosi.

taking responsibility for the lack of January 6th security.

We have responsibility, Terry.

we did not have any accountability for what was going on there and we should have.

This is ridiculous.

You're going to ask me in the middle of the thing when they've already breached the

inaugurals and stuff that

should we call the Capitol Police?

I mean the National Guard?

Why weren't the National Guard there to begin with?

They thought that they had sufficient responsibility.

No, there's not a question of how they had been.

They don't know.

They clearly didn't know, and I take responsibility for not having them just prepare for war.

Yeah, you should.

Yeah.

Now, here's Nancy Pelosi about that clip.

The fact is that the President of the United States, the former President, and his toadies do not want to face the facts.

They're trying to do revisionist history on January 6th.

But we cannot let us be dragged into their, again,

false impression of what happened that day.

They know what happened that day.

Yeah.

How is it that releasing the clip of her taking responsibility and saying, I should have known.

How come they weren't there?

Somebody knew.

Why didn't I know?

Um,

how is how is playing that clip revisionist history?

Wouldn't revisionist history be?

I don't know what she's saying now.

Yeah, she's revising what actually occurred to her own benefit.

That is her version of revisionist history.

I mean, I just don't.

Hmm.

Uh, let's see.

Um,

let me play, uh,

Let me play this illegal immigrant talking to Fox News.

He's going to,

well, he's not saying he's going to vote, but if he was going to vote, how would he vote?

Cut nine.

What do you think of President Biden?

Biden, I love Biden.

Why do you love him?

Biden, help us.

It's good.

That's a really good

question.

Yeah, I know.

And it's weird because

there's not a lot of Americans that are saying that right now.

You know, Biden helped us.

No,

I

can't see that.

62% of Americans now back mass deportations of illegal immigrants.

62%.

Do you know who almost unanimously don't agree with that?

Illegal immigrants.

A new poll shows that they're almost 100% in lockstep against mass deportations.

So,

wow.

You know what that is?

You know what that is?

This is

Biden couldn't convince people anymore of, they're going to put you all back in chains.

He couldn't convince black people of that lie anymore.

This is the new black people back in chains.

He's going to send you back to your country.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That one's true.

The back in chains thing was never true, but, you know,

that's what they'll do, I guess.

Now there, the New York Times again is showing the rights racism.

Two black Republican House members and Trump surrogates reserved a cigar bar near downtown Philadelphia last week and invited conservative organizers and Trump curious black voters to smoke and sip cognac.

Some Democrats denounced it as a crass play

rooted in stereotypes.

Did the people who attended the event think that?

Where they were like, gosh, he is really stereotyping us.

That's why I'm going?

Well,

I've had a problem with this story for the last couple of days,

and I bring it to the table today because I still can't figure it out.

Let me just read this again.

Trump surrogates reserved a cigar bar near downtown Philadelphia last week, invited conservative organizers and Trump curious black voters to smoke and sip

cognac.

Now,

when I think of cognac, I think, lovey, I need my cognac.

I don't,

are blacks known for their cigar and cognac evenings?

Because I really thought that was an elitist white.

You know, I always, I would think of George Soros being like, yes, and then we kill all of them as he's, you know, warming the cognac under his, you know, in his hand.

Yes.

And maybe mutilate them a little bit too.

It's kind of fun.

I don't see the...

What's the stereotype there?

I mean,

Hennessy

is occasionally associated with an African-American demographic, perhaps.

I don't know if that's accurate, but I've heard people say that

that's something, like in pop culture and stuff that I've seen, but I don't know if it's actually a real thing.

I don't know if that people utilize it in that way.

I mean, you know, you could take if they were like, come on down and have menthol cigarettes and cult 45,

then maybe,

maybe.

But the menthol cigarette thing comes from Joe Biden trying to buy people

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Well, there's yet another enemies list.

This time, it's coming from a Ukrainian outlet.

So why would we care if the Ukrainians were saying that people like me, the Blaze, Ben Shapiro, are

spreading miss and malinformation?

Well, I think you can imagine why.

Well, they say it's not a kill list or

anything like that.

It's just people who are engaged in Russian disinformation.

And some of them are evil.

And some of them are just hapless dupes.

I'm not sure which one I am.

But I have to take this and peel this a little bit so you can see what's just beneath the veneer of the Ukrainian publication.

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A Ukrainian publication with the editor in chief, who has ties to the U.S.

State Department, has placed dozens of American politicians, activists, and media outlets, including Blaze Media and Glenn Beck, on a list of those allegedly known to have shared Russian disinformation or otherwise made anti-Ukrainian statements.

On Thursday, texty.org, an independent media outlet that fuses data journalism projects with traditional journalistic genres.

This, according to their website, they published an article entitled Roller Coaster, From Trumpists to Communists.

The forces in the U.S.

impeding aid to Ukraine and how they do it.

Now, there's 75 of us on this list, but nearly 400 entities that have opposed sending aid to Ukraine in its war against Russia.

We were mentioned, Blaze Media and myself mentioned on pages 34 of a 47-page list.

The anti-Ukrainian Blaze Media links are all from 2023.

They include one, which Blaze News article, there's one Blaze News article, two tweets, one of which is just showing a clip and a quote from Tucker Carlson, who's also on the list.

And then three segments with Blaze Media's Glenn Beck.

Okay.

Okay.

Now,

what were the clips?

Well,

the first clip that they had a problem with was that I had said that the plan to go into Russia

or to have Ukraine fight Russia and us to back them up was in the works in 2016.

And Texty came out and said, that is an absolute lie.

Hey, he's just making this stuff up.

Well, the reason why I said that is because we found a clip that I had never seen before.

This is Lindsey Graham with John McCain in the background.

During election 2016,

in Ukraine, talking to the generals and the troops.

Listen to what he said.

2017 will be the year of offense.

All of us will go back to Washington and we will push the case against Russia.

Enough of a Russian aggression.

It is time for them to pay a heavier price.

Our fight is not with the Russian people, but with Putin.

Our promise to you is to take your cause to Washington.

Inform the American people of your bravery

and make the case against Putin to the world.

I'm not going to make a case for Vladimir Putin being a good guy because he's an absolute monster.

However,

you know, when you have the State Department Department doing a color revolution in 2014 in Ukraine to get rid of the Russian that they say was running Ukraine,

and then you have Lindsey Graham and John McCain during the election saying 2017 is the year we go on offense.

It's time they pay

a heavier price.

Well, I would say that that kind of sounds like, you you know, we're for going right after Russia.

Our fight's not with the Russian people, just Vladimir Putin.

That sounds like regime change.

Does it not?

Now, why didn't it happen in 2017?

Because the unthinkable happened.

Donald Trump was elected.

That's what happened.

Donald Trump was elected.

In 2017, he became the president of the United States.

And what happened?

He all of a sudden was painted as a guy who was for Russia.

And the Russian interference, forget the Chinese, just the Russian interference alone.

So the enemy of Hillary Clinton and the State Department and everybody else,

the enemy became Russia, and Donald Trump tied closely together.

So the offense had to wait for four years, but they continued to smear Donald Trump with Russia.

That was the whole case.

Okay, so now let me go on.

Let me tell you about a show we did a few weeks ago.

Regime change.

It's been United States policy for a very long time.

Covert CIA operations.

We go in, we manipulate the foreign media we meddle in elections we topple governments uh and then you know we go back to saying we didn't do that what are you talking about this is this started with the cold war but nothing the cia pulled off comes even close

to what their successor began doing

who was the successor to the

CIA, covert ops.

Well, it was the United States government, that includes the CIA, along with NGOs, trade unions, and people like George Soros.

Color revolutions.

The first one that was really successful was the Middle East, the Arab Spring, right?

I told you, the Arab Spring was...

It had its roots in communist, the European Spring, back after the Communist Manifesto was written.

They tried to overthrow all of Europe, and it was called the European Spring.

How could this just peaceful movement just suddenly

have the roots in revolutionary Marxism?

Well, color revolutions, Middle East, then Latin America, and Eastern Europe, Ukraine is one of them.

And here's what they do.

The United States, so they can keep their distance, goes through NGOs and trade unions.

They train and mobilize street movements.

Kind of like, let's see if I can think of a street movement that seems like it wasn't actually real.

BLM

or the Palestinian street movements.

By the way, as we've shown you, funded by these same kind of people.

So we showed you

all of the evidence on a color revolution and how it was done.

And they did it all out in the open, and they even bragged about it.

I showed you the people and the organizations at the top of the color revolution spear.

I also showed you that some of these people, NGOs, trade unions, are now active here in the United States.

And they seem to pop up every four years.

Totally coincidentally, their money and their actions usually come at a time of massive civil unrest right before an election.

Now,

There's usually some kind of, you know, government element at the top.

Could be the CIA.

Most likely it's it's the State Department and USAID but ultimately it's the office of the president so we did a chalkboard on this we showed that that has to happen you have to have those in the government that are wanting to overthrow another government then the operation is privatized to give it distance from the government this is where the NGOs like the National Endowment for Democracy come in Okay, the NED is composed of four different entities, the National Democratic Institute, the International Republican Institute, the American Center for International Labor Solidarity, and the Center for International Private Enterprise.

You see what's happening?

You have both sides, so it looks fair, Republican and Democrat, plus you have labor and private enterprise.

Everybody

coming together.

So this is a bipartisan kind of cover story.

Next, in the food chain, you have to have the multi-billion dollar financiers and their organizations that partner in the entire operation.

This is where George Soros comes in, the Open Society Foundation, the Tides Foundation, and then there are the people that spread the message, demonstrate in the streets and the media to report what the government wants you to report, wants them to report, to the masses.

This is the blueprint.

We've done it over and over and over again.

And I make the case that these same people are doing it here in America.

So why is the blaze, why am I on this list?

I'm on this list because I believe I'm telling you exactly what's happening.

We have a color revolution happening within our own government, within the NGOs and George Soros and all those people.

This is what they're doing.

And there's a possibility this time they succeed because you have to have an, quote, illegitimate president.

You have to have street movements that are not only saying that it's illegitimate, you also have the media saying it's illegitimate.

And it doesn't work if Donald Trump is the one saying he stole the election.

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Now, let me go back to the outlet and who these people are: the ones that put this miss dis and uh and

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You'll be surprised to hear that there's some of the same exact connections to color revolution.

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Okay, so texty.org that has provided this list,

they do note that they couldn't establish direct proven ties between most of the people and outlets on its list and the Russian government or known Russian propagandist.

Instead, they say it just gathered evidence that these same people and outlets have spread Russian disinformation by echoing key messages of Russian propaganda in their arguments against sending Ukraine further aid.

Okay.

So who's who is the who are the people behind Texi.org?

Texti.org, the co-founder, is Antoly

Bondicanero.

I could say it earlier.

Bondinero.

Still wrong.

Anyway,

who is he?

Has he ever been involved in anything?

Well,

yeah.

He was involved in the Tech Camp, a public diplomacy program established by the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs at the U.S.

Department of State.

What is the Tech Camp?

The Tech Camp is when they go into these countries where they're going to do a color revolution, and they find all these tech-savvy people, and they show them how to build movements against their government.

That's what our State Department is doing, okay?

Would they like to clarify this?

Would anybody like to make a public statement on why we're there?

And, you know, curious why the editor-in-chief and the co-founder was trained by the State Department?

I mean, it's really interesting that this organization has ties to the State Department and USAID.

Their founder was part of the tech camps.

I mean, it's weird.

It's almost like we're, you know, we've been outed.

for saying bad things about the State Department and the U.S.

government perpetrating color revolutions and saying this is how they do it and so then they have a shell organization that they themselves have created to what prove me right is that what's happening here

in hopes that you will never understand why names are on this list

they say it's not a kill list it's not an enemies list It's just a list that demonstrates the evidence supporting the the thesis presented in the article.

The article is not an accusation, but a study of the political and media context that influences government decisions regarding further support for the Ukraine in the Ukrainian-Russian war.

They don't deny, condemn, or dispute the right of American citizens, media, or institutions to express any opinions or hold any political beliefs.

Well, that is so great of them.

I wonder which State Department class or USAID class they learned that one from.

Telling you, go back, it was

last month, it was on the 29th of last month.

Look for my Thursday night special.

It was all about color revolution.

And I urge you to watch it because this, you understand this.

It was like, you remember when I first said, if you understand Woodrow Wilson, you'll understand the progressive movement and you'll see what they're after and everything will start to come in clear?

It's the same thing with color revolution.

And I think Texty,

just to prove that, at least gave me

enough of a nudge to remind you you should watch that special.

Why would, I mean, really,

why would we be on that list?

Why would so many be on that list?

Now, some are just really anti, you know,

Ukraine.

I'm not.

You know, they put, what was it, 10 people on the list

that were congressmen and senators that were just calling for an accountant to be sent.

That's Russian disinformation.

You want an accountant to be, you know what that says to me?

If you have to make that person an enemy of your cause, you're doing something with the money that we should know about.

If you're just asking for, I just want accountability, we'll send the money.

I just want accountability.

If you call them an enemy, I think they're right.

We should have accountants.

You know what I mean?

Maybe it's just me and more disinformation.

Stu,

sorry.

That's exactly what I expected.

Yeah,

I have to throw you under the bus.

It wasn't me that's on that list.

It's the Blaze, and you're part of it, the big part of it.

And Your Honor, I never said any of these things.

Color Revolution, I don't even know what that is.

You forget that these shows are recorded, posted for people to listen to.

Color Revolution is that when, like, red and blue team up to make purple do what they want.

That's right, exactly.

Color revolution.

There you go.

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Return is all about tech.

And Peter Geidel is the Blaze Media Managing Editor for Return.

And he has been looking into

the story that we were just telling you about, that this texty.org put a list together of people that, you know,

I don't know, Peter,

what do they even say their motivation is if it's not an enemies list?

They're trying to claim that, oh, this is just compiling information of people repeating Russian disinformation or propaganda.

But it's clear they're conflating, you know, Russia today with Blaze and Tucker Carlson, anyone else who has any sort of questions about the funding, including left-wing organizations like CodePink.

So I've been talking about color revolution, and I don't know where you stand on that, but I really believe that that's what's happening in America.

And the left and George Soros and everybody else are doing what they've done in country after country for the last 20 years.

They've just perfected it, and now they're doing it here to the United States to topple her and make her into a democracy instead of a republic.

But

it's interesting to me that the co-founder is a guy who has deep ties to the State Department and to color revolutions by hosting a tech camp in one of those countries.

Am I far off base on that?

No, absolutely not, Glenn.

I

completely agree with you on that.

And I found this weekend originally that we had been placed on that list along with you and Blaze Media.

But then last night I was able to dig deeper and uncover some pretty interesting stuff about this organization.

First of all, is the texty.org, they also go by Data Journalism Agency.

It's the same board, same email, same address.

And through the data journalism agency, they're funded by the Global Investigative Journalism Network, which in turn is funded,

has been given $2 million by the Open Society Soros Foundation.

So they're directly tied in.

Right.

But there's more and more.

So then once you dig deeper, they're openly admit, again, this organization that has placed duly elected members of Congress, media members across America, this foreign organization,

is also funded by the Eurasia Foundation, which is a United States government funding apparatus, including the Transparency and Accountability and Public Administration Services, and the U.S.

Agency for International Development.

And those are...

So USAID, and those are always, they're known by anybody who pays attention as CIA fronts.

Exactly.

This is, you know, the USAID comes into a country, they start doing things, and next thing you know, we've got a revolution on our hands because that's the CIA, correct?

Absolutely.

Well, and they were also funded by the National Endowment for Democracy, which is absolutely 100%.

Yes, also.

So they're also on that list of everybody who's participated in a color revolution.

This is crazy.

So all the usual suspects were here funding this organization.

Right.

You know, there's a story out.

I don't have time to get to it today.

It's from the New York Post.

It is fantastic.

How Henry Ford's fortune is being used to rip America apart.

And they are also funders of this organization, are they not?

Yes, I believe so, but maybe indirectly.

They fund that Global Investigative Journalism Network, which then in turn funds this.

So, yeah.

We'll be careful with it.

Yeah,

yes.

Right, I get it.

I get it.

Same address, same board, but completely different.

I got it.

I got it.

Right.

So what do you, what is the takeaway on this?

What, you know, you can say what they say they're trying to do, but what is it they're actually trying to do?

Who's going to read this list and say, oh, okay.

Just other media outlets?

I mean, it's infuriating as an American that they're doing this and putting this list together.

I think what concerns me and disturbs me is you've done a lot of great reporting over the years and recently on how these

color revolutions operate, how they overthrow countries around the world.

But what's kind of disconcerting about this is concrete evidence that now those color revolution NGOs, Soros-backed organizations, are focusing their target internally on the American people, on congresspeople, on journalists, on

people of good faith who are left-wing, who hate war.

It's a very dark turn, I think.

Let me switch the subjects because you are a tech guy.

That's what Return is all about.

What did you think about Apple's announcement yesterday?

We have an article coming out today on Return going into it.

I mean,

it's disturbing to kind of get in bed with OpenAI and the way that they're discussing and basically allow all of Apple's, all the information of anyone who uses

Apple products to now be fed into the OpenAI network and software and then have AI in all of your devices in that way is to me a little disturbing.

So we don't let OpenAI

have access to the internet

now, right?

It was all,

I think it has to be like two years old, the information or something like that.

Is that accurate?

I think that's something around that.

Yeah, I forget the exact timeframe, but it's something around there.

Yeah, it's something like that.

What is the difference between now giving it access to everybody's phone?

I mean, it's a potential

the AI could start accelerating a lot by having that up-to-date information.

You know, I think it's it's also, you know, Apple has always positioned itself as a defender of

their customers' data, and they're very, you know, vociferous in their defense about that.

And now to partner with this organization that is, you know, there's been a lot of questions from, you know, Elon Musk and a lot of others about

what OpenAI is up to and what their goals are and what their plans and to just invite it into your house, so to speak, into your computer.

Yeah.

You know, I don't.

But people will do it.

Yes.

People will do it because it'll be, you know, this is, I think, the fulfillment of

a friend of mine who said that I think he said it would come out at the end of last year.

But here it is.

He said, this is, we will have, everyone will have access to a digital secretary, a digital

assistant that will be able to, you know, write letters back for you, remind you of who you have to write back, what you have to do, make, you know, reservations for you, et cetera, et et cetera.

This is the beginning of that, is it not?

Yeah, which I think

could be good.

I guess it could answer your emails for you.

But it's one more thing taking

away your humanity.

It's one more aspect of your life that you're handing over to a technology that we don't completely understand and we don't know where, it's still in its infancy of its...

power and its ability to influence human life.

Stu, you were trying to get ChatGPT to do something this morning.

We were talking about,

what was that?

I was playing with it.

We were talking earlier about a story in the New York Times today that discussed Republicans' efforts to get black voters to come and entertain their ideas.

And there's one paragraph in there, which is incredible, honestly.

It was like a litany of the supposedly racist things that Donald Trump had done throughout his life, and I guess as evidence why black people shouldn't support.

But it was in a

news article and just presented as facts.

And each one of the examples was listed as this known fact that he was a racist when none of them actually told the truth about the incidents.

You know, it was stuff about like Charlottesville and how they've mischaracterized his comments from that stuff that we've discussed before.

But one of the examples was

in 1989,

He

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Now, when you go back, and I remember reading this at the time, if you go back and read the ad that he posted, it at no point calls for the death of the Central Park V.

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And I couldn't tell if it was a copyright thing or what they were trying to do.

And eventually I convinced it to actually print the text of the ad, but it would stop halfway through and say it violated its own terms of service.

And this is a historical ad.

Again, words written by a guy who's president of the United States and is currently running.

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I mean, there's definitely safeguards that they're putting on there to control narrative.

I mean, another aspect that I've talked about, I think, is important of

In some ways, it's so woke because it's getting trained on all the online information that's been created in the last 10 years, which by definition is just much more left-wing and much more.

So I think some of it is definitely on purpose and some of it may just be most of the internet, from Reddit and Twitter and all these other places, that is just left-wing.

online information that it's taking all that and churning out what it is.

But I mean, there's a ton of examples of that we see.

And I mean, and this is another argument of why perhaps we shouldn't just allow Open AI and a couple of these mega tech corporations to be the only ones that have access to AI.

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I have a friend named Jamie Kilstein.

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Now, Jamie has appeared on the Joe Rogan Experience three times, two of which were good.

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And he's gone from that to this program.

So, you know, things haven't gone well for Jamie,

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He's recently found Christ and has totally changed his life.

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Well, I don't think people change if they're not in trouble myself.

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in a way.

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How are you?

Hi, buddy.

That intro was very funny.

Well, it's sad, kind of, isn't it?

Because it's all true.

Yeah.

I mean,

you've had such an incredible life.

And I'm telling you, Jamie, your life is only going to get better.

But you just, it's hard at first.

It is.

Yeah, it was easier um kind of not

it it was it was easier not being christian being christian is hard man uh it's so hard uh

i was very happy just like blissfully torpedoing my life and angrily tweeting at you from brooklyn back in the day this is uh this is difficult and then i go to my christian friends for like help um like like my famous pastor friends and and they'll all they'll always be like yeah well look at the apostles.

They were in jail and they died.

And I was like, cool, that's awful.

I don't want that.

I want a good, was there any apostle that like did okay?

It's not a good sell.

Yeah, I have the same thing.

My pastor friends and everybody comes up to me and they'll say, you know,

you've been speaking prophecy on what's coming.

And,

you know, you find those people in the Bible.

I'm like, don't ever say that to me.

Those people were all killed.

They all died.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Jesus, the main guy died.

Like, he came back, but he died.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I guess it would,

I guess, I guess it should be a little more obvious that Christianity is tough when that's the story and the selling point.

Yeah.

I mean,

what's been the biggest struggle?

I mean, it's been all over the place.

I mean, first of all, The week after I got baptized, I got the worst injury I've ever gotten.

I've done jiu-jitsu and and MMA for 20 years, trained with UFC fighters.

It wasn't that.

I was volunteering at church playing Duck Duck Goose

and like had to show the oddly good looking guy volunteers that who was in charge.

And so my hips shattered.

So I was out for a year and I remember.

Oh, you're kidding me.

Oh, yeah, dude.

And I don't think I've told this story on a podcast, but I literally,

the worship band played at the end of the volunteer rally, and I'm standing there and they're playing some hallelujah song, and there's there's like tears in my eyes and people must have been like our new brother in Christ is like being moved by the Holy Spirit and I'm just like my hip is broken I don't have health insurance I don't know what I'm gonna do and so I like hobbled out of there and then um

before I met my you didn't tell anybody no I didn't tell anybody then no because I literally felt like I think I'm a level-headed guy I think I'm an intelligent guy but when you become a Christian at 42 and you were never religious, it's like, I feel like I'm going through a lot of the struggles that other kids went through when they were like, I'm asking the same questions 13-year-olds are asking when they're raised religious.

Like, I'm going up to my pastor and I'm like, am I not allowed to go on the internet?

And it's because I'm just new.

So, I literally thought that I'm being punished and I'm not welcome here.

Why else would I get injured at church?

I thought I did the right thing.

I mean,

I got married in March and two days later lost all of my money.

I wish it was through a housing scam so I could promote your guys' sponsor.

But like all gone.

And it's like every time I thought that I was doing it

God's way, something really bad would happen.

And, you know, look, you shouldn't go to Christianity.

And I know we're going to talk about this, but you shouldn't go to Christianity for a click.

You shouldn't go to get things.

You know, it's not like you become a Christian and you go, all right, Jesus, like work your magic, everything's going to be good.

But I think because I've struggled so much with depression and with

not feeling like I fit in or always feeling like a screw up,

when this stuff happens sort of post-Christianity, I just go, oh, it's me.

Like not even Jesus can help.

And I think that's probably where

Christians who struggle with mental health problems, that's probably where it can get worse, right?

Like you can look to Jesus to take your pain, anxiety, fear, ask yourself, why is this happening?

How can this better me as a person, etc.

But when it goes the other way, it's so dangerous where you go, oh, not even God likes me.

You know what I mean?

So I have a friend.

I did a podcast with him and his wife.

They're an amazing couple.

He suffers from depression, debilitating like nobody I've ever seen.

Yeah.

And

he just can't do anything.

He can't function.

And he's gone through all of that.

Why, me, you know, God.

And he's one of the most devout guys.

Somehow or another, he's worked it out in his head.

But I just have to tell you, Jamie,

my first four years,

really tough.

When you change as much as you have changed,

it's tough.

It's, I mean, because you're still paying for the past.

And

you're still breaking the all of these habits that were so Ingrained is in you is like that's fine to do.

Yeah, and it's hard and I feel them coming back I mean even the sort of like victim mentality stuff I used to do on the left on Twitter

I'm now doing that with like Jesus, right?

I'm like why me blah blah blah and I hear myself saying it And I'm like, this isn't me, but that becomes an addiction.

It becomes an addiction.

I mean, depression can be

an addiction where you're just used to people going, how are you?

Bad.

Here's who screwed me over.

Here's why I'm in trouble.

And then you get this little like dopamine rush because that's just the path you are used to.

And, you know, so people will say, well, give Jesus your fears or your anxiety and he can handle it.

And you go, he's busy.

You know, you start to have imposter syndrome with Jesus where you just go, he doesn't want to hear this.

Like, my friends don't want to hear this anymore.

Jesus doesn't need need, look what's happening in the Middle East.

He doesn't need me being like, and I could use a

paycheck.

I have to tell you, Jamie,

one of the big things I had with Roger Ailes while I was at Fox was he said, you got to stop telling people to pray.

And I said,

Okay, stop talking about God.

Stop telling people to pray.

Whoa.

And he said, you know, God is busy on wars and things.

He doesn't need to hear everybody else's problem.

Wow.

Like,

you know, I think that's not exactly the message of Christ.

So I'm going to disregard that.

But

yeah, man, it, I mean, how did you feel when you, not to act like you're on my podcast, but the, the, the times you,

when, when things have gone wrong for me in the past, a lot of that could be traced to mistakes that I was making, right?

And not that I don't make mistakes every day, but

when you started to course correct and when you went on this path and then you were getting hit with stuff, whether it was from your past or whatever, that I find is the most, is the hardest.

Because when you're screwing up and bad things happen, you go, yeah, this tracks.

This is my fault.

But when you are like, man, I am really crushing it.

I'm volunteering.

I'm the best husband I've been.

I'm the best, you know, all these things, even the content I'm making, you know, it's still comedy, it's still filthy, but it's trying to help people or it's about Jesus or whatever.

And I go, I'm doing it and I'm being rewarded.

And then when you get the rug pulled out of you,

that's what's triggered my spirals recently.

I have to tell you,

this will come in time.

You begin to trust in him

so much that

you begin to focus on, wow, that wasn't helpful.

I mean, Jamie, you know, but right before we

met,

I was almost bankrupt.

I had lost almost everything because I had put all of my money into this, and it didn't look like it was going to work.

Right.

And I knew that the Lord told me to go out on our own, start this network, et cetera, et cetera.

And

what I realized was two things.

One,

you know, if it was an error in it, it was my judgment error on

doing it the right way, doing it his way.

The second thing is, my wife said to me, you know, he never promised that this would go well or be easy, but

it will always lead us directly to where he wants us to be.

So even if you lose everything,

you gain over a period of time.

And I know it sounds ridiculous now, but honestly, at our worst times,

we know that everything will work out.

I had one of my kids,

you know,

was, oh, wait, hang on, just saying, breaking news?

Yeah, sorry to interrupt, guys.

We have a verdict in the Hunter-Biden case.

Just came out.

Convicted on all counts.

Faces 25 years in prison.

All counts convicted.

25 years in prison just came out just seconds ago.

So

it's an interesting world we live in that you guys are in the world of

is a God.

I was going to say.

Jamie.

Hunter's coming to Jesus.

It is happening.

Yep.

He might find him now.

He might find him now.

Wow.

Anyway, so Jamie, I wanted to talk to you.

Let me take a quick break.

And I wanted to talk to you about

people.

We just had Alex Jones on yesterday, and he said, you know, I'm a changed man.

And,

you know, Russell Brand, I'm a changed man.

Me, I'm a changed man.

You, I'm a changed man.

I've never expected people to believe me right away because I had lied for so long with my alcoholism.

Sure.

I knew it was going to be a long time, but it does get frustrating when you're like, no, I'm not that guy anymore.

Do you have any thoughts on like Russell Brand's conversion and

what you look for in a person?

Because I'm told all the time, I'm too easy on people that say they've changed, and I don't think so.

But I'd like to hear your opinion.

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Hey.

So, Jamie,

what are your thoughts on that?

Yeah, so thank you for plugging the new shows, by the way.

I think the word grifter

can be really, really

insidious.

I think it can be used against people

who have legitimately changed their minds on an issue, oftentimes for the best, right?

So there are people laughing at Russell Brand.

Oh, he's a drug addict than this.

It's like, yeah, isn't that good?

What kind of monster are you that you would rather a celebrity kill himself with drugs than do something that is making him a good person?

Whether you have clearly, you're projecting your church hurt, and I'm sorry that happened.

But like, we should be rooting for people to become better people.

We should be rooting for people to become more nuanced.

Now, the problem is, you know, I remember when I was an atheist, if, you know, sometimes you'd see some politician or something and they'd cheat on their wife and do all these like scummy things.

And then a week after the scandal, suddenly they already have a book called like My Affair with Christ or something.

And you go, okay, this is like clearly written by like a PR person or something, right?

And but I think that.

For the most part, I know for me,

I deal with imposter syndrome really, really badly.

And when I started coming on shows like this, people were like, oh, he's doing the right-wing grift.

And I was like, fellas, if I knew how to grift, I would have more money than I do.

Like, I wish I did.

And,

but I remember when I found Jesus, I was like, oh my God, for the first time, I don't care what people say because it is something inside me.

I know that it is making me a better person.

I don't need to defend Jesus.

He's got it.

And so I think that,

you know, when someone truly does find God,

it doesn't need to turn into this sort of gossipy thing on the internet.

What I will say to Christians, though, listening to this show, is that we should be rooting.

Like, if Jesus came back to look for apostles today, he's not taking, no offense, like Joe Osteen or the Pope or people who are already sort of.

established religious people.

You know, when you look at...

He didn't do it last time.

No, he took tax collectors and he helped sex workers and, you know, all these people who were completely ostracized by the community.

Imagine, imagine Paul killing all of the Christians.

Oh, he's killing the Christians and now, what, he's a Christian?

Yeah.

I mean, that was a hard leap.

There's not even an equivalent, by the way, as a new Christian, having Paul in your back pocket is the best.

Anytime I feel like I screw up, I'm like, didn't kill Christians.

So,

but like, you look at, I mean, some people could look at, you know, Kat Von D, me, Russell Brand in the same year.

I didn't even know the Alex Jones thing and go, oh, it's happening.

The apocalypse is happening.

But also,

I would so much rather go, oh, that's so good.

You know, there's a reason.

One of the things that's really great about, so Alex is my wife, and we did our first episode of Trauma Bonding this week.

And we talk a lot about these faith struggles I've been having.

And one of the cool things about being independent, so that was inspiring hearing your story is we're doing the show independent.

And what's cool about it is I don't have to speak as a Christian influencer.

I can legitimately, you know, I still curse.

I still talk about my mistakes in the past.

I still ask questions.

I still go, I don't get that part of the Bible or I don't know about this thing.

And while a lot of Christians might look at that and think I'm doing a disservice, if our job is

to make disciples and love our neighbors, then me being able to reach out to Russell Brand being able to reach out to spiritual people, liberal people, gay people, you know, all these people that aren't going to be walking into a megachurch or maybe have been ostracized or pushed away by the church.

And we can bring that person to Jesus in a way that your best pastor who can quote theology like that

could, that is a good thing.

And then let God handle it.

I'm not saying I'm going to bring a bunch of people to Jesus as a comedian.

Right.

But I can't open the door to people who would never trust religious institutions.

And then God will deal with

the other stuff.

I'll tell you, Jamie, I think you and

your wife now, Alex,

who's shockingly not a man, would have seen that

easily.

All those conservatives were wrong.

Vegetarian doesn't mean whatever.

Yeah, guys have a, you guys have a very bright future ahead of you, and I agree.

There are so many people searching, and there is nothing more powerful than watching somebody discover truth.

And even when you're not there, you're like, oh, no, wait a minute, I haven't thought of it that way.

There is nothing more powerful.

The most powerful teacher who thinks they have it all, not as powerful as the guy who's honestly searching every day for truth to take you on that journey.

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Well, it's quite a day.

In Wilmington, Delaware, a federal jury has convicted Hunter Biden of federal gun charges, a historic first for the offspring of a sitting president.

His trial had his ex-wife and his sister-in-law talking about his drug use.

He faces up now to 25 years in prison.

He has not been sentenced yet, so that's what he faces up to 25 years for three charges.

Lying on a federal screening form about his drug use, that is, I mean, that is, I think it even says on the form it's a federal crime of like 25 years in prison.

You don't lie when you're buying a gun.

Don't do it.

Then lying to a gun dealer and possessing the gun, although first-time nonviolent offenders typically get shorter sentences.

That's an interesting.

I'm going to give him his sentence here soon.

Yeah, about three weeks.

They expect this to be three to four weeks.

And now that sentence

is, you know, one of those situations that, you know, it depends on how long it is.

You're right, first-time nonviolent offenders.

Usually the term isn't too, too long.

If it's anything longer than, let's say, five or six months, you would assume, despite his denials, that Joe Biden will pardon him the second the election's over.

Oh, of course he will.

Is that your expectation?

Yes, of course he will.

Yeah,

I can't imagine he wouldn't.

He's been, you know, getting his kid in and out of trouble for the past 30 years.

Yeah.

Why would he change his, you know, his parental habits?

Yeah.

New York Times is reporting that Hunter Biden's team was feeling, they say, bullish about a non-guilty verdict before it was delivered.

So this is a surprise.

One of the interesting reactions to this, Glenn, I'd love to get your take on this, is now the left saying,

well,

I guess we won't be seeing anything about a rigged jury system anymore today, will we?

Obviously referring to the Trump case when people were saying the system was rigged.

Although, I don't know, is that your take on that?

Do you think the system was rigged against with the Donald Donald Trump?

No, first of all, I would have said the system was rigged when they came when the Justice Department

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This is now, there's no sentence.

It says up to 25 years.

There's no sentence, so we don't know.

You know, but it's

this is normal.

This is the the way it works usually.

It just usually happens to people much, much faster than this.

And when Donald Trump

was

at trial, we weren't saying the system was corrupt.

We were saying the system in New York City and Washington, D.C.

is corrupt.

Because

just because of the voter base, you can't get a fair trial if you're Donald Trump.

But that doesn't mean the whole thing is corrupt.

You know, my point is, you have to play ball the way the people in power in New York want you to play ball.

That's corrupt.

You know,

I think generally we get it right.

I think often that happens.

I still think we have the best system out there, even though there are massive problems with it.

And specifically in this case when it comes to Donald Trump, and that, like, I actually have.

legitimate hope that the system, the legal system gets the Trump verdict right eventually.

right?

Like, I don't, I think there's a good chance it gets overturned on appeal.

The problem with that, though, is that the timeline of the legal system and our political system are not are not working together very well unless you happen to be a Democrat.

And that, of course, is intentional.

But, you know, like, I do think that eventually the court system will probably suss this out.

And I'm not at all surprised that, you know, Hunter Biden is

guilty in this case.

It it was pretty blatant, but like that is overlooking what you just brought up, Glenn, and that they tried to completely brush this under the rug.

I mean, the political system tried to get involved in this multiple times to make sure this didn't occur.

They got caught, and so now we have a jury who actually does come to the right conclusion here.

Obviously, he was uh guilty of this.

Um, so yeah, there's no there's you know, there were they weren't saying you can't bring up this person

to prove that he was innocent.

This was his gun.

That is his signature on the paper where he lied.

Okay, that's a huge penalty.

Then

when his

sister-in-law lover

was

found that, you know, found that his gun was in the glove box, she went and took it in a bag that had cocaine powder in it, it, threw it into a garbage can behind a supermarket.

She should have been charged, quite honestly, as well, I think.

But she took the gun and she threw it into a garbage can because she was afraid their kids might find it.

Well,

so you're going to let somebody else's kids find the gun?

What do you, you know,

there's no

question

that this is exactly what happened, and you didn't have to make up laws to say or skirt around whole

sections of the law to get this.

You're just enforcing the law.

What's ironic about this is dad's such the big anti-gun, you know, throw the book at him forever if they've, you know, they've ever had a cap gun in their life.

And he's going to end up, I truly believe, he's going to end up pardoning him.

I think he will as well.

Of course, you know, these penalties are for thee, not for me.

And so all of these hardcore, I'm Mr.

Tough anti-gun guy, this is the exact type of stuff that Joe Biden was pushing for, larger penalties for these type of actions.

Now, I think there is the best defense for Hunter Biden, which they didn't really get into in this particular trial,

it will probably come up on appeal, is a Second Amendment defense.

I don't know that it's a winning defense, but I think there is a good argument that the question itself is not

properly represented in our histories and traditions as whether you're an alcoholic or a drug addict and you can't have a gun if you are right like you know if you go back and look at the early machinations of that of that

there's very much in our histories and traditions and like for example you go into a bar they take your gun as you go into a bar they give it back to you when you leave right like that that type of stuff was you know common going back to the you know the

you know the when guns first were being killed yeah um but typically it wasn't it's not one of those things where they would do the same thing If you were an alcoholic, you'd never get a gun even when you were sober.

Right.

And so the.

Yeah, I think you could make a really strong case for that.

Yeah.

And saying that, you know,

I'm a recovering alcoholic.

Should I own a gun?

You know,

it's the

practicing, are you using drugs?

Are you using alcohol?

We could argue about that, and there might be a case to do it.

However, the left would not be for that the left would be for for all alcoholics no matter in recovery or not shouldn't own a gun and all teetotalers as well uh yeah and all teetotals yeah but but that's that is not what this case is built on this case is built on you lied on this federal form you cannot lie everybody knows that

Everybody knows that.

And it's true, and it's one of those things that I find this case to be the least interesting part of the Hunter Biden saga.

Oh, this is a lot of people.

It might not even be a constitutional question.

Like, I don't think there's, he didn't shoot anybody.

Like, there's a lot.

I mean, he should have, he should be,

the laws should apply to him like they apply to everyone else.

But, like, to much more interesting to me

is the tax stuff, the financial stuff, and the stuff that ties into international business dealings that seemingly involve many of his family members, including maybe his dad.

I mean, certainly his dad, in my view, but legally, we don't have that proved yet.

But can I ask one other question?

This came up while you were gone, Glenn, and I've been meaning to ask you about this every second

since we talked about the story.

I've never had sex with Hunter Biden.

Oh, okay.

Oh, okay.

You cleared it up.

This is a story that came out, and Pat and I talked about it last week.

And we both said in the air, the only person that we know that can possibly answer this question is Glenn Beck.

The story is from the New York Times, and it's painted as this like

sob story about how we're so mean to Hunter Biden, right?

Like that's the tone of the story.

The headline is, Hunter Biden's paintings, not quite the refuge he sought.

The president's son started selling his artwork years ago, drawing potential ethics concerns that were discussed in congressional testimony this year.

And it goes through a very long, you know, feature about his incredible painting, but it gets into details on the finances that I have never seen before.

And if you remember, they were talking about these paintings going for $500,000 a pop.

Correct.

In testimony that came out, they found that actually the most money he made was $85,000 for any of these paintings,

which they

hilariously say is not common for a novice painter.

Really, it's not common for a novice painter to make $500,000 or $85,000 for a painting.

Right.

But they go through the details here.

Right.

All right.

And they say, all in all, the gallery sold about $1.5 million worth of his art.

Okay.

Just thrown in there with no crinkled eyebrows at all from the New York Times is Mr.

Biden's earnings proved more modest than the early hype had suggested.

He reported $130,984 in gross income from art sales during the first two tax years that he was represented by the gallery.

They just go on as if that's nothing.

But is this the normal arrangement?

$1.5 million in art sales only nets $130,000 to the artist?

He's getting 8%

of the sales.

Is that even possible?

No.

No.

If you are bringing something to the table, which he is, he's bringing fame.

He's bringing people will come to the art show just to see him.

You can negotiate for a better rate

because I was a new artist I negotiated with my gallery 50% they take 50 I take 50 because they're doing work I'm doing work whatever

and if you're a new artist you would do that

he's a new artist and

This guy is bringing a lot to the table.

Hunter is.

He's bringing not only the art, but he's bringing I'm the president's son and I'm in the newspaper all the time.

So people are coming into this guy's gallery.

However,

you know,

it might be shady.

You know,

you're,

I don't, you know, I don't know.

If this was somebody who knew

Hunter Biden, who he did, and knew that he was on the up and up and everything else, he should not get 8%.

It would be more likely that he get

45%, 55%.

Yeah, like I could see

you getting a really good deal with a gallery because you also are bringing

some level of notoriety, right?

And you're not just like,

but like, and he'd have a similar thing.

I didn't want to.

Even if he got half of what you got, it would be much, much more than what's reported here in the New York Times.

No, this is this is that's ridiculous.

That's ridiculous.

Ridiculous.

8%

is ridiculous.

He obviously, if that's the real deal, he obviously made it while smoking crack.

I mean, honestly, that's ridiculous.

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So

I'm just trying to figure out how is the left going to deal with this Hunter Biden story

when

they are always screaming for more time in jail for people that do things like this.

How is that going to work?

Because I could say to you, honestly, I'm just looking up the federal form because I thought it had

the actual penalty on there for perjury.

They seem to be state.

The FBI background check.

Every time I've ever seen it, I think it says something about, you know, not lying.

I acknowledge that this is blah, blah, blah.

Super serious.

Super, super serious.

And this is the kind of thing that, you know, they say we need more background checks, stronger background checks.

How are they going to defend this?

They will utilize any argument in front of them that benefits them at that moment, as evidenced by their hardcore, passionate

libertarianism when it comes to health care and abortion.

Like,

they tell you they're going to start a new system.

They're going to tell you what coverage you have to do.

They're going to mandate you get the vaccine.

They're going to make sure you wear masks.

But they really, really super duper only want you and your health care to be between you and your doctor.

Like it's so obviously false.

They don't have any credibility at all, but they will say whatever they need to at that moment.

I guess it's worked for them for a long time.

They're in charge of the country.

Let me give you this one and tell me me if you agree.

This is Arn McIntyre, of course, of Blaze TV.

He says, my instinct here is that this serves, the Hunter Biden situation, serves as a prelude to jailing Trump.

In other words, you know, they convict him here to show how credible the legal system is, and that gives them cover for when they say Trump is going to jail.

Again, apples and eggs.

Well, yeah, in reality.

They're not the same.

They're not the same.

But will they use this to to get those out?

Of course.

Will they use it?

What did you just tell me?

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