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Very, very different tonight.

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Also, the government has come out to tell us that, yes, lives were saved because of social distancing and a lot of life.

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for some reason have been with me now for almost 30 years.

No one can explain it.

No explanation.

I know.

It's really.

Science is looking into it, but I don't know if we'll ever find the answer to it.

We've got a couple of things going on.

By the way, the reason why they're with me today is I had eye surgery and still am not really able to.

Everything's a little fuzzy.

So,

you know, I usually get the stories wrong and the names wrong, but in the next few, for a couple more days, probably it would be a very bad idea just to fly solo.

Anyway, there's a couple of things I want to talk about today.

One, we have a couple of experts on, I think next hour, Stu, correct me if I'm wrong, I've been really concerned about the

magnetic field of Earth and the solar flares.

Yesterday afternoon, we had one of the biggest solar flares

happen again.

It was like an I don't remember, X5,

which is a severe

solar flare.

It wasn't aimed at the Earth, and so we're not going to be affected by that, but we're at the peak of solar activity.

Our magnetic field north and south poles are moving

at the

rate of, I think, 40 miles a year, which is extraordinary.

And there's a lot of things going on, and we're going to try to figure out what we should worry about and what we shouldn't worry about.

That's coming up, I think, next hour.

Also, I want to get into the Trump

trial.

It looks like it's really falling apart.

We'll get into that.

But I was listening to Pat this morning as I was getting ready for the program, and Pat was talking about

this new study from, I don't know, University of Colorado, and I think UCLA, Pat, right?

Yep.

And Pat, you have a show of your own?

I do.

Now, when does that occur?

Where would I find something like that?

It's immediately before this show, live.

6.28 Central, so it's 7 to 9 Eastern

or anytime and anywhere you get your podcast.

Wow, that's

almost like a promo, though.

Almost.

Might have to be a private.

But it charges you for that.

No, it wasn't a promo, but it was almost like one.

Okay, okay.

I'll almost charge you that.

But they say social distancing and a few other measures,

like lockdowns and school closures, that saved 800,000 lives.

Now,

you believe that?

Wow.

Wow.

May I just say, if we could have, if we could have saved 800,000 lives by the lockdowns and the distancing, imagine if Obama were president and we could save 800,000 jobs at the same time.

Oh, the old created or saved thing from Barack Obama's day.

I remember that.

800,000 lives created or saved.

Well, if you're going to put created, I think it's 800 million at that point because

yes, yes.

800 million people were either created or saved

during the social distancing.

Isn't it crazy we haven't had, well, I don't think we have.

I've never heard about it.

We didn't have a baby boom, did we?

We didn't have a COVID baby boom.

Not that I know of.

Isn't that interesting?

Bizarre?

You're locked in your house for a year and you're like, nah, not interested.

No, what can I binge on Netflix?

That's what we were worried about.

Tiger King, right?

We were in the Tiger King period and that was not firing people up.

That is amazing.

By the way, I don't know how just knowing the physics of how life is created, I don't know that social distancing is necessarily the thing that would bring people.

I don't know.

It seems like the farther you are apart, the more difficult it is.

You had a lot of people who were living together and married and everything else.

I understand after two years, you're like, mm-mm.

You're right.

Right at the the beginning?

Yeah, right at the beginning, we should have had a boom.

That's interesting.

I do remember people predicting that, but I don't remember seeing the research.

Neither that ever happened.

Yeah.

Yeah, that ever turned out.

I mean, obviously, all the dating kind of went away for a while.

So you lost a lot of those just out-of-wedlock, whimsical babies that may have come.

I was going to say, I don't know if you know this, dating doesn't cause pregnancy.

It does lead to the thing that does, Glenn.

Yes, it does.

Yes, it does.

Often.

Yeah.

But but i mean it's if you're not you're not finding a new partner if you happen to be alone i mean certainly that could be a little bit of a factor but generally speaking the baby boom comes from established couples yes yes yes yes the other thing is that uh you know they they said that the the measure measures they took before the vaccine are what saved all these lives uh and then the vaccine came in and saved more lives no it didn't did it i yeah it didn't people still died people everybody got it anyway.

We were told that if you got the vaccine, you weren't going to get COVID.

And that turned out to be a complete and total lie.

And people got it anyway.

So I don't know that any of the measures they took actually.

Let him have it, Stu.

Let him have it.

Go.

Go ahead, Stu.

I know, Stu.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

No, I'm just going to tell you, no COVID baby boom.

No widespread baby boom during the COVID-19 pandemic.

In fact, many countries experience a significant decline in birth rates.

How is that

possible?

How can that

be?

We have

a few explanations, if you'd like to hear them.

Yes, I do.

Okay.

Economic uncertainty was one of them.

People not wanting to have more kids because they were worried that the economy was going to fall apart.

Maybe understandable.

Health concerns.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Have we suddenly, you're telling me with all the illogic that is happening in the world today, where everybody is just dumb as a rock, you're telling me they were like, I don't know, financially, when people came back from World War II and the whole world was destroyed and unemployment was through the roof because everybody, nobody had a job because all the men that returned, they just were,

they just didn't think about it.

The people who built America were just like, you know what, we're going to have a baby.

I don't really care.

I don't know.

It's a totally different thing, though, right?

Like, you had a long period of downturn and devastation that seemed like a big victory, right?

Like, you know,

it's a different vibe than we were relatively,

you know,

prosperous and all of a sudden everything just evaporated overnight and it was a short period of time, right?

Like, it was, you know, I mean, how long did that really last?

It was.

Can I tell you what I really think this is?

All these people are like, I don't want to bring a child into a world like this.

I just can't imagine with all of the things going on, I could bring a child into a world like this with global warming and all of these things with conservatives.

I can't do it.

With Trump as president, how could we bring more babies into this world?

Exactly right.

There's some of that.

They talk about also social restrictions, health concerns, delayed marriages and relationships, and access to family planning services.

Oh, that's an important one right there.

If you can go to Planned Parenthood, then they can prevent you from having children.

That much is true.

That's true.

Yeah, you know, we want to have a baby.

We went to Planned Parenthood, and

they cut the baby out of her for some reason.

We were just going for help.

By the way, the United States birth rate declined by about 4% in 2020.

Wow.

Which is incredible.

Also, declines in France, Italy, Spain, and

some Asian companies and countries, including Japan and South Korea, which already had low birth rates, saw further declines.

The world will weep when the Western world falls.

They have no idea what the Judeo-Christian Western world has done for humanity.

And when it's gone, they will weep.

They're going to be sorry.

They're going to be sorry.

And right now, you know, you're talking about

rates of reproducing.

We're below replacement right now.

Are we significant?

Did we just hit another milestone?

We're significantly behind.

Childbearing women are having 1.6

children per family.

Man, I hope that's not.

The replacement is 2.1.

We're half a percentage point under it.

When you have that

0.6 baby,

I hope it's the head and the arm.

I know.

You know, it'd be horrible.

And I hope they're all attached.

You know, you at least get the full

could we get the 1.6

and take the 0.6 from one person and the 0.6 from another and sew them together?

Because they'd be super people then.

I don't know if they've tried that, but they should.

They should.

Because then you'd have 1.2 as an individual, which would be great.

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fool here, but I have not been

watching TV or anything because I can't.

And honestly, I just can't listen to it because it's driving me out of my mind.

Can you guys tell me what's happening with the Trump trial now?

Well, he's been a very bad boy, and I have him in front of a court to try to see how bad he's been.

Michael Cohen was testifying yesterday, and he continues, I believe, today.

They're trying to basically show that he's not a credible person, highlighting all of the things he said about Donald Trump in the past, which really has run the gamut of every possible opinion you could have on Donald Trump, from the greatest man of all time who should be king of the universe for eternity, all the way down to he's the worst person of all time and should be taken out back.

That's kind of

the Michael Cohen approach.

Whatever benefits Michael Cohen at the time, and it's important to note that what benefits him at the time right now is to be very calm and balanced and give

very respectful testimony in front of the court.

Of course, every major media

institution is just lapping this up as if he is a credible witness when really there couldn't be one that is less credible.

Was there a tape that came out yesterday?

Well, it's that secret tape where

it's not new.

That's not new.

And we know what's in it, and it's never been very incriminating in my mind.

I don't think it proves the defense, the prosecutor's

statements at all.

It doesn't seem to back up what they're trying to prove about Trump.

You know what's what's amazing is this is how rigged this thing is.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but the judge,

I believe, denied the former federal election commission chairman to testify to show that this was not a campaign expense.

Right.

That's true.

They wanted an expert witness to come in and say, hey, this is not a campaign finance violation.

Someone who's an expert in that field, they denied that as a potential witness.

Now, it's but he wasn't really an expert.

He was just a chairman.

Right, right, right.

Okay, all right.

Now, it's interesting because they

haven't actually said that it's a campaign finance violation.

To remind people who may have been bored out of their mind about this, they basically have to tie what they say is a crime to another crime to get over the hump of making it a felony, number one, and number two, getting over the statute of limitations.

So they have to say crime A, which is this records violation, is tied to crime B, but they won't tell us what crime B is.

They're insinuating it has something to do with campaign finance, but of course, they haven't actually said that.

So it's almost, you can't defend yourself against a claim that hasn't actually been brought.

This is so Declaration of Independence, isn't it?

I mean, this is just like everything that's in the Declaration of Independence that the king was doing.

You're like,

I think they're doing that to Donald Trump.

How do you defend yourself about something that you don't even know what the crime is?

Yeah, well, it's impossible, and that's the point, right?

Right, so that's what they want.

So,

the jurors,

what do you think they're thinking?

Hopefully, there's somebody there that's just not a New Yorker.

I hate the guy.

Yeah, which is what Michael Cohen is all about.

We do have some of the highlights from his testimony, if you can call it that,

some of what he said yesterday.

Cut one

They say I'm Mr.

Trump's pit bull, that I am

his

right-hand man, and I care about Mr.

Trump.

This is what he was saying.

Mr.

Trump truly cares about America.

He loves this country.

He cares about the American people.

He knows what it's going to take to fix it.

But one thing, Donald Trump is, he's a compassionate man.

I've been saying that to you since the day that he made the announcement.

He will ultimately go down in history as the greatest president.

Now, in a plot twist worthy of Shakespeare, the fixer has flipped.

I am done with the lying.

I am done being loyal to President Trump.

My loyalty to Mr.

Trump has cost me everything.

My family's happiness, friendships, my law license, my company, my livelihood, my honor, my reputation.

And my freedom.

He is a racist.

Oh, wow.

He's a racist.

He's a con man.

And he is a cheat.

And the guy is a narcissistic sociopath who doesn't care about anyone.

This is the most embarrassing thing that I have ever seen a U.S.

or a former U.S.

president ever do.

It's actually even embarrassing for the former guy himself.

So Ben Franklin had a saying a long time ago that we're all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Well, I'm talking about, yep, yours truly, Donald the dope.

How dangerous Donald Charles truly means,

legitimately could be.

Don't take my word for it.

I want you to Google it to all of your listeners, Brian.

And I want you to understand, this is not my words.

These are the words of the deranged former president who said if he wins the presidency,

the first thing he's going to do is he's going to rewrite the Constitution.

He comes out of

the courtroom.

Unreal.

And

goes right into that little cage, which is where he belongs, in a cage, like an animal.

Okay, on and on and on and on.

Just a few of the things he said over the years.

First of all, obviously, when he was a shill for Donald Trump, and now he's the biggest hater on the planet, he had no credibility in either timeframe, by the way.

And he's so unlikable.

Have you ever seen a person less likable than him?

Or less of a connection to the English language?

Don't under your brain.

So bad.

He is yours, truly.

Somebody else.

More unlikable?

Yeah, I think anybody in the Cuomo family.

Ah, okay.

You're preaching my language right there, Glenn.

You know, I mean, I like it.

I like where you're going there.

The Cuomo family.

By the way, Cohen was in direct contact with Chris Cuomo throughout all of this stuff.

And, you know, going back all the way to 2016.

In fact, some of the texts that came out in the trial, this is sort of a side point, but he was texting Chris Cuomo to figure out a way out of the Access Hollywood tape going back all the way back to those days.

So

a little connection there that we didn't necessarily know about.

CNN does business in an interesting way now, don't they?

Yeah, they do.

But like Cohen has no credit.

I mean,

anything that he says that you don't have multiple other witnesses to is just completely worthless.

I mean, the man has no credibility.

Yeah, you'd have to have more than one witness.

But if you are somebody who hates Donald Trump, you could so easily just say, Oh, he was lying back then, but he's telling the truth.

I mean, he had to do what he had to do.

He wanted a job.

He was, you know, good guy trying in there to stop Donald Trump.

And, you know, he just couldn't take it anymore.

I mean, that's the kind of games we play now.

Instead of saying,

I don't know when you were lying.

You were lying when.

You're lying now.

I don't know.

Hopefully,

Jerry will come to that conclusion.

Yes.

But we'll see.

We'll see.

I mean, they certainly should.

This all seems to be working in Trump's favor right now.

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I want to talk to you a little bit about

the coming election and the kind of information you're going to be able to access.

Things are changing and they're changing rapidly, and you will never notice it because that's the way things are done now.

But there is a massive campaign on

that, I believe our government is absolutely involved in,

but not only the government, social media.

My social media page, just on YouTube, I don't know, 1.62 million people, I don't remember what it is, followers.

And to show you what's going on, just I think three months ago, I had 95 million impressions every month, 65 million views,

something like that.

That was three months ago.

Now we have

about 60 million impressions and 12 million views.

This month, we are trending to be half of that again.

There is nothing that we've done differently.

Now, unless America is just bored to snot with me, which I completely accept, that is a real possibility,

we are being silenced.

And it's not just us.

It is everybody who has a different opinion from this administration.

And we are being silenced and squelched.

By the time we get to the end of the summer, which is where the campaigns are going to be heating up, you're not, if you're a subscriber of mine on YouTube, you're never going to see me.

You'll have to search me out to find any of my clips.

This is,

again, electioneering.

This is nothing more than part of what I believe to be an effort to steal an election.

And it is gravely disturbing.

This is the time I built the blaze for.

Back in 2010, I was sitting in the office and I remember talking to Stu and Pat and saying, we got to get out of here.

This place is going to burn itself to the ground.

And we all knew that.

We all knew that the media was going to burn itself to the ground.

Wouldn't you agree?

We all looked at it at the time.

But when I said we had to go online, that was stupid.

That was stupid.

Nobody was doing it at the time.

I mean, there were people, you know, Adam Curry was doing things,

but there was nobody that was really a success at it at that point.

And nobody was doing a live network.

It was only Major League Baseball.

And I took all of the, you know, I took all of my children's college funds and everything else that I had made, and I dumped it into the blaze.

And I nearly lost it all

because we were way, way ahead.

But luckily, we had some very dedicated people.

I meet them all the time.

I've been a member since the very first day of the Blaze, and I can't tell you how much I appreciate that.

We have grown a great deal, but we don't have the social media pushout.

They are...

They're doing this to the Blaze.

They're doing this to Daily Wire.

They're doing this to everybody.

And so you're going to see less and less from us and our opinions.

And it's really a very dangerous thing because we are now entering a very dangerous time.

I'm going to be real honest with you, too.

I see a time that I'm not going to be able to talk to you about what's really going on.

If you don't know by then, you probably won't know.

But we're going to have to stay in contact some way or another.

So I have been working on several programs that we are going to try.

And tonight

is a program based on history.

It's a pilot.

And I want you to watch it and see if it is something

that

you would watch.

Again, it's a pilot.

They'll change a bit.

This one is

tonight all on history.

And, you know, we have this amazing, we probably have,

gosh, I don't even know, 80, 90 million dollars worth of documents and everything else in a vault.

And

we're going to start telling those stories if this is something that you would like.

And this is kind of a

backup show, so we could stay in touch.

And I'm not talking politics, I'm just telling you the truth of history.

And tonight is the first one.

It's based around one of the the most stressful auctions of my life.

There was one artifact, and there was just one, and it was so important.

It changed the world.

And I talked to my wife about it, and she said, are you out of your mind?

And I said, well, but there's only one and look how important it is.

Change the world, etc.

So she gave me a budget, and I was like, there's no way I'm going to win this thing.

It was the test model version.

They made four Sputniks.

The last one they made burned up in space.

But this was the Sputnik.

We believe this was the one that was testing the tones that went out.

It now

hangs

from the roof, a copy of it hangs from the roof of my office.

The other one is in the vault.

But I couldn't believe it.

We won, and I was on cloud nine, knowing that our museum now had something that nobody else had except the Aaron Space Museum in Moscow and the Aaron Space Museum in

Washington, D.C.

And it is what caused the space race.

It was the first satellite.

It was the first thing that went up.

All of our telecommunications now come from that.

Then, in fact, let me play this a little bit of a clip of tonight's show.

Do you have that clip where?

I've collected so many artifacts over the years that we now are able to open an entire museum?

So, when I heard that that was coming up for sale, one of the Soviet Union's Sputnik satellites that's responsible for everything in space, it was coming to auction.

I had to win it.

Now, 140, 215, now 160,000.

Yeah, that's all.

Got a little higher.

What do you think?

Can you get it to three?

He does.

He's in orphan now.

$300, now, $320,000, now $320,000.

Anybody else beyond that?

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Fair warning?

Man, you are inroaded, my friend.

$300,000.

I won it.

Sputnik was ours.

But then I got a call into a meeting with historians at our museum.

They didn't want to tell me any specifics about the meeting beforehand, which is never a good sign.

This thing is

such an amazing.

What was Epstein's

assistant's name?

Maxwell?

Elaine Maxwell.

Okay.

Do you remember the movie Tetris?

Yes.

Okay.

That's Max, the big guy from England in that is Maxwell, okay, her dad.

But her brother is also in that movie, and he was the, you know, the loser that was trying to go,

you know, get Tetris for his father.

Well, he's actually involved in this story, and I don't know if this made the final cut.

He plays a very small role, but he was involved.

We weren't sure if this was even real.

And

we couldn't tell.

We had a tip off because we looked at the other Sputniks and they were slightly different.

And the difference was

something that you would never, if you're going to fake one, you would never fake it like that because it became obvious.

But there were some things that just kept falling apart on us.

Did I buy a fake Sputnik?

Tonight, you'll find out: is it a fake

Sputnik or not?

And you'll learn all about Sputnik and the space race.

We take you back to what this really meant.

It's great for the whole family.

It happens tonight.

This is just

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We want to take you through the entire museum and teach you history through the objects in the museum.

So watch it tonight with your family.

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Now, from a workflow perspective, was there any consideration given to the idea of maybe meeting with the historians before you spent $300,000 on the item?

We did.

Okay.

And we do that.

We check everything out.

But there was one thing that we just, we didn't notice.

And it was, I mean, this journey is crazy.

We have

one of the head guys of NASA.

We have probably the biggest space artifact.

guy.

I think we flew him in from California or Washington.

He came in.

They disagreed at first.

I mean, wait until you see the ending.

I mean,

it's an amazing ride.

Did you save your receipts?

That's what I wanted to know.

Did you save?

I mean, once you take it back up to the counter and say, yeah, this sputnik didn't work it out for me.

You want to have your receipt in hand.

Yeah.

You know,

or at least the credit card you bought it on.

Yeah.

Hey, Amex,

somebody put a Sputnik on my car.

That was one me.

Why would I buy a Sputnik?

It doesn't even fly anymore.

So is this something that you're thinking about long term of doing more of these types of things?

Because we have so much great stuff over at the museum.

And at least my understanding is we know all the rest of the stuff is real.

But I mean, it seems like you could do a lot of this stuff.

Yeah, we've actually, we're going through, because of Sputnik, we're going through absolutely everything.

And we found a couple of things that are questionable.

We haven't found any fakes.

We found some things that the story is not quite right on.

We've got three people that that's what that's all they do.

And they're going through the entire museum.

And the documentation now on all of our artifacts is amazing.

And we're learning so many

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that include people that you would just never think.

You know, I've said this before.

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We have three specific artifacts from him that tell a story

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Some people might know Operation Mincemeat, but they don't know how he affected the

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But we have a lot of stuff that we're excited to show you.

So, this is a show that we will take you through all of the, I mean, if you watch it and you like it, we'll take you through all of the museum and teach history through the artifacts

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You know, one of the things that you should have have checked from the very beginning,

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We would have looked it for that first.

You know, what was really concerning to me was when they first told me

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Last week, a lot of people were like, oh, I'm going outside tonight.

Look at the pretty lights.

Well, we could see the pretty lights.

And nobody was saying, yeah, you know, what's causing those pretty lights, right?

What's causing them in a bad scenario could make all of our lights go out.

We have Hugh Ross joining us today.

He's an astrophysicist

and he's going to explain what's going on with the sun and our magnetic field

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Brett Weinstein is joining us as well in about a half an hour.

He wrote a tremendous article when everybody was saying, look at the pretty lights.

He's like, yeah, maybe we should should protect our grid from those pretty lights.

You're going to understand stuff that nobody else, I think, is really talking about and covering, and that is the polar shift of the Sun and the possible magnetic polar shift of the Earth.

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He is also the founder of Reasons to Believe and senior scholar.

He's an amazing guy.

He's been on with us before.

I did a podcast a few weeks ago with him.

He found Christ.

He found God

through

looking at the stars.

An astrophysicist is somebody who looks deep into the past

and tries to see what the...

you know, what...

what creation was, what was happening millions of years ago.

Hugh, thank you so much for being on the program.

Oh, my pleasure.

So there was something that, and

I've been reading stuff about this for, I don't know, 30 years.

It's always fascinated me.

But

I'm not a scientist or anything like it.

And so I have such a base understanding of it.

Last week,

we had a major solar flare.

Solar flares can affect, like an EMP, can affect our power grid if they're bad enough.

And we're also going through a time period where while the sun is at its peak activity right now, our magnetic field is weak because our poles are drifting at about 40 miles per year, which is pretty extraordinary, isn't it?

Yeah, the pole shift is moving.

It's quite a bit faster than it was the previous century, but it's not out of the ordinary.

And so when you do get a reversal of the magnetic pole, you do get rapid motion.

We're nowhere near that degree of rapid motion yet.

And that could be a thousand years, right?

I mean, rapid for the Earth could be a thousand years from now.

Yes, it could even be a million years from now.

And there have been hundreds of pole reversals in the past, and none of them have done serious damage to life.

But it is true that when you approach a pole reversal, the magnetic field weakens.

And our magnetic field has been weakening by about 6% per century.

But again, that's not out of the ordinary.

Our magnetic field always varies, either goes down slowly or up slowly.

Right now, it's going down slowly and may actually turn around and start to go up a little bit.

So the variation of the magnetic field, the the movement of the magnetic pole, none of that's out of the ordinary.

On the other hand, we can't rule out the possibility we're heading towards a magnetic reversal.

So, what does that mean?

The North Pole becomes the South Pole?

Yes.

Well, what actually happens is the, you can think of the Earth's magnetic field like a bar magnet with a north and south pole.

That's called a dipole field.

What happens is when the magnetic field begins to weaken, it transitions from being a dipole to being a a multipole, where you've got more than two poles.

And that could last for a period of, say, a century or two or thousands of years.

Then it flips around and it then becomes north and south, but what was north is now south.

What is south is now north.

What does that do?

I mean,

that whole shift,

what, you know, and let's use a

thousand-year timetable because we don't know.

Could it happen quickly, first of all?

It could happen quickly, but that's rare.

Usually it's a rather slow, gradual onset.

Okay.

And I mean,

physicists are watching this to see what's happening.

Right.

But right now, we're not seeing anything that's really outstanding or out of the ordinary.

Okay, so

what happens as it starts?

I assume they drift and they're not connected per se because I think

the South Pole is actually moving slower than the North, but as they go towards like east and west, right?

Well, right now

it's moved past the North Pole,

the axis.

It used to be in northern Canada.

And over the past 150 years, it's moved a little bit past the North Pole.

And it could switch and go east and west instead of north and south.

You know, physicists have been mapping this polar wandering of the magnetic pole for quite some time.

There's been over 100 reversals in the past history of the Earth.

And we do know that the magnetic field weakens when it happens, weakens by about a factor of 10.

But even a factor of 10 weakening is not devastating to life.

We can't document a single extinction of a species during a magnetic reversal.

But it could impact health.

I mean, when you've got a weaker magnetic field, you've got more cosmic radiation coming in.

It's like if you live in Denver, you get exposed to more cosmic radiation, and your average lifespan gets lessened by three months.

And is that because of all the progressive laws that are there?

Well, it could be.

No, you do get a few more cosmic rays if you live at high elevation.

But hey,

healthier lifestyles, that might counteract it.

I know that we are they've had to adjust the GPS system.

And is that because of the poles shifting?

Well, you do have to adjust the clocks because the Earth is very slowly spinning down.

So, you know, every New Year's, physicists celebrate New Year's Day by adjusting all their atomic clocks by a few microseconds.

But that's all it is.

Just a few microseconds.

So, but okay, but I've heard that it used to be

anyway,

the end of the story is that they're now adjusting them every six months.

Is that true?

Well, that's true.

I mean, and we're going to have a new set of GPS satellites that'll know where you are to within one or two centimeters, in which case they're going to have to be making even more frequent adjustments.

But the adjustments are tiny.

So, when I was probably 25 years old,

I read this great book, and I have no idea if it's scientifically sound or not, but it talked about a catastrophic polar shift that the crust of the earth, that some of the continents may have moved.

And their theory was that Atlantis was Antarctica, et cetera, et cetera.

But what fascinated me, and I know you're a religious guy, when it comes to

end times, it says, and the stars will fall.

The only way that I could think of in God's

magnificent math to make it look like stars fall would be some sort of a

shift in the continents as we would look up, we would be moving, but it would look like the stars are falling.

Have you ever thought of that?

Nonsense.

Well, if the continents move very rapidly, it will wipe out all life.

And so the continents move by a few centimeters per year.

So I don't think that's what's happening.

The word there for star in Greek is aster, and that could include meteors.

So maybe the stars falling is referring to a meteor shower.

Okay.

Or it could be referring to the stars dimming in light, like if there is widespread forests and grass fires.

That would cause all the stars.

In fact, that text says the sun, moon, and stars dim by one-third.

And that dimming would happen if you were surrounded by smoke.

You know,

we're talking to Dr.

Hugh Ross and the thing I don't like about this interview is he's so smart he makes me look like an idiot, which nobody usually does, but I usually do that on my own.

Hugh,

so tell me the

all of the stuff on the

Aurora, the lights that we're looking at.

There is, I've read a lot, and I don't know if this is true, that because of the magnetic field and if we have a massive, I think we had a, I don't even know, an X5

solar flare yesterday.

It was not headed in our direction,

that that kind of stuff could

blank out everything.

It's like an EMP.

Yeah, that could happen.

In 1859, there was a huge solar flare that struck the earth and knocked out telegraph systems.

If that were to happen today, it could knock out most of the world's power grids.

And that would mean you'd be without electricity, not just for a few hours, but for weeks, months, maybe even years.

And that would be catastrophic because today we're very dependent on electricity.

Think of refrigeration.

You got no refrigeration.

What does that do to your food supply?

Right.

So

and that kind of a flare happens about once every one or two hundred years.

But hey, it happened in 1859.

And I've written a book making the point it would be wise for us to protect our power grids.

Amen.

There is one that's protected, and that's in Quebec.

It got knocked out in 1989 by a flare like the one that happened just this past Friday.

But that's the only protected power grid in the world.

In the world?

Yeah, Yeah, I mean, they were close to the geomagnetic pole, so they took the most damage.

And it was $11 billion of damage.

But they now have a surge protector on it, so it's protected.

But if we were to get a flare like we had in 1859, the damage to the U.S.

alone would be over $2 trillion,

and you would have millions of people dying.

Jeez.

The sun is reversing its poles as well, but that happens like every 11 years?

Yes, we're at solar maximum right now.

Every 11 years, you get more flaring activity, more sunspots.

And so, yeah, for the next year, we can expect to see more aurora displays like we had last Friday.

And hopefully we're not going to get a flare hitting us like what happened in 1859.

Yeah.

When When does the sun start to go into solar minimum?

It'll start going into solar minimum in about a couple of years.

I mean, it's an 11-year cycle.

And so for about a two-year period, you're at maximum, and then you head towards minimum, and then we go back to maximum again.

And is there any correlation in your mind between the solar activity?

and maximum and minimum and global warming?

No, there's really no connection between what's happening with the sun.

The sun is getting brighter, but it's going to be a few million years before you notice the difference.

So even if the sun is very active, it doesn't affect our temperatures or anything.

It has no effect.

What's happening here on Earth is what you've got to watch, not what's going on in the sun.

Okay.

Could I'm going to break for a second, and then if you wouldn't mind just kind of taking us through

just quickly

Genesis and how science and the Lord's writings in Genesis are consistent.

It's just an amazing thing.

Would you do that?

Oh, I'd be happy to do that.

Okay, we'll do it.

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Pat, I think you haven't heard this yet before.

This is fascinating.

How many minutes do we have?

I'm going to give him time.

Okay, we have about four minutes, Hugh.

Can you take us through what you can in four minutes on Genesis and how it proves God is

that the scriptures are right?

Well, let me just take on Genesis chapter 1, and it follows the scientific method for a very good good reason.

That's where the scientific method came from.

And Genesis 1-2, the Spirit of God is hovering over the surface of the waters of planet Earth.

That's the point of view, the frame of reference from which we're to interpret the creation days.

Below the clouds, not above the clouds.

So we're looking up, not down.

Looking up, not down.

Got it.

That's step one of the biblical testing method.

Step two is don't interpret until you also identify the starting conditions.

Genesis 1, 2,

water is everywhere over the surface of the earth, and it's dark everywhere over the surface of the earth, and the earth is formless and void, empty of life and unfit for life.

And then the Spirit of God begins to work.

And Job 38 explains why it's dark.

It's dark because God blanketed the seas, the waters, with clouds that were opaque to light.

Creation Day 1, it says, let there be light.

And that's when God transforms the atmosphere from being opaque to light, where light can now pass through.

And I was reading this at age 17, but I studied enough astronomy to realize Earth begins with an atmosphere 200 times thicker than it has today.

An atmosphere that thick will let no light through at all.

But there was an event that led to the forming of the moon, two planets colliding with one another, the and the proto-Earth, that thinned out Earth's atmosphere so that light could pass through.

Then you get to creation day two, water above and water below.

But the more ancient book, the book of Job, gives a chapter and a half to what was happening to the water and explains that God had established a water cycle with three different kinds of frozen precipitation,

excuse me, and three different kinds of liquid precipitation.

All these we need in order to have humans globally distributed.

Then you get to creation day three.

Let there be land masses.

This is when plate tectonics, God says that's when God has the planet transformed from just water everywhere to where you now have oceans and continents.

And then vegetation comes upon the continents.

And then it says,

let there be the sun, moon, and stars, so they may serve as signs to mark seasons, days, and years.

Animals need those signs, the vegetation doesn't.

But this is when the atmosphere gets transformed from being hazy to where it now becomes transparent and animals on the face of the earth can see the sun, moon, and stars.

And that is because of the vegetation, right?

Well, the vegetation helps, but there are other events that vastly increase the oxygen.

in Earth's atmosphere.

The deep oxygen cycle, combined with the vegetation, transforms Earth's atmosphere from being hazy to being transparent.

So, and Matt, yeah, go ahead.

I'm sorry, Hugh, I hate to break you off, but we're out of time.

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I read a great article late last week by Brett Weinstein.

He's an evolutionary biologist.

He's the co-host of Dark Horse,

and he was writing about the solar flares.

Hey, look at the pretty lights in the sky.

And

he, thank God, was one of them that actually said, hey, yeah, those pretty lights can put out all of our lights.

What are we thinking?

Uh, Brett, welcome to the program.

How are you?

I'm well, it's good to be with you, Gland.

Thank you.

Um, wasn't it yesterday, didn't we,

wasn't there a solar flare yesterday that was, I don't know, X6, or I don't even understand the classifications, but it was a big one.

They said it was the 17th largest on record, but it wasn't headed our way.

It was an

X8.8, which makes it larger than all of the storms that we took last week or over the weekend combined.

It was a very large flare, and the dynamics work this way.

The sunspots are actually rotating around the sun, and there was a very large, very active cluster that fired seven blasts of plasma at us.

And what happened yesterday happened from that same sunspot group as it was rotating away from the Earth-facing side of the Sun.

So a lot of plasma came off the Sun, but it will not hit the Earth.

What would an X, first of all, can you explain X 8.8?

Yeah,

it's a non-linear scale that measures

the

essentially the hazard from these solar flare

ejections.

It's like a Richter scale.

It doesn't go one, two, three, four.

Its magnitude is...

Yeah, okay.

It's been compressed so that it can cover a much wider range of events.

And X is the most dangerous, right?

There are different categories, but once you get into the X category, that's really bad.

Yeah, that's really bad.

Now, there's a lot of uncertainty in any given flare and coronal mass ejection, the amount of material that's flung off.

If you had a photograph of an explosion, it'd be very hard to predict who in the crowd was going to be hit by shrapnel.

And the Earth is sort of

in that condition.

We orbit around the sun.

Coronal mass ejections happen all the time.

Mostly they miss us.

Sometimes they hit us, but most of the energy and plasma does not.

Sometimes they hit us square on.

It's a roll of the dice every time.

So

when we have a mass ejection from the sun and it's headed our way, this is akin to

a global EMP?

Yes, it can be.

It could be.

It can be.

So, you know, there's a lot of subtlety in the way these things are measured.

When we have a flare,

there's an immediate burst of electromagnetic energy, X-rays, radio waves, microwaves, that sort of thing, that hits the Earth just like light does in about eight minutes.

It travels at the speed of light.

And then there is plasma, which is not always ejected during these flares, but often is.

And that takes days to travel the distance between the sun and the earth.

And so it's that second category.

Both things are important.

The X-rays can knock out communications almost immediately

on the sun-facing side of the Earth.

But it's these coronal mass ejections of plasma that threaten to take out the grid.

But they last for days.

Like we, we

I think we're out of this last solar storm that hit us over the weekend.

But it took days, did it not?

Well, it did, but it was the result of a series of coronal mass ejections emerging from the same highly active, large group of sunspots that happened to release these

these plasma bursts while they were facing the Earth.

So it's now just about rotated out of view, and it released this last largest burst

right as it was on the horizon.

It may not survive to point back at Earth again.

We won't know for another two weeks as it's on the far side of the sun rotating around.

It may disintegrate.

It may return.

It could be less active.

It might be more active.

We don't know, and we won't know anything about it until it's back in view.

So this is the most perplexing thing I have ever seen because it's in the range, I think, of about $10 billion

to protect our infrastructure.

And there's, for some reason, nobody wants to do it.

Why?

I've never been able to answer that question.

It is, if you understand the risk we are taking,

the

threats that we have prioritized above this one,

the relatively small amount of money it would take to make us much safer.

And the one that really gets me is I can't figure out

who would profit from us remaining vulnerable.

It seems to me that essentially

everyone on earth would benefit from fixing this problem, and nobody would notice the small increase in required revenue necessary to cover a large-scale- is that estimate that I gave you is that accurate or close

uh you know it's a little hard to say because there's a question about what exactly you're going to do nothing will make us perfectly safe right but hardening the grid which is largely a matter of making the transformers on which the grid depends robust so that they don't fry during one of these solar storms right the problem with them frying is not only does that take the grid down, but these transformers are not something that you, it's not a commodity.

You have to order them, and they take something like a year, up to three years, to be delivered.

So it's bad enough if you lose one.

But if the Earth suddenly needed many of them,

who knows how long the wait would be.

And many of us believe it's likely the lights would simply not come back on over large segments of a continent or worse.

So this is one of those low probability problems, but massively high impact.

I can't think of something that is a higher impact than

a solar flare that knocks the Earth's

electricity grid down.

Yeah, I think this is as dangerous as nuclear war, but I do want to correct one thing you said.

It's low probability in any individual instance.

It is actually extremely high probability on the scale of decades.

Over a decade, we take like one in eight chance of a large piece of the grid going down in

an unrecoverable way.

That's enough to create chaos.

And why we would take a one in eight risk every decade is hard to fathom.

Last week, how close was that?

Can you explain the Carrington event for anybody who doesn't know?

And I mean,

it hasn't happened in 150 years or whatever.

I mean, it sounds like it could be due for one again.

Can you explain that?

Sure.

In 1859, an astronomer named Carrington noticed flaring activity from sunspots.

It was correlated to auroras and

a spectacular breakdown of the electrical systems of Earth, which at the time basically meant the telegraph system.

What happened with the telegraph system is that the solar storm induced currents in the wires that were enough to shock operators sitting at their desks, start fires, and in fact, allow people to send messages, though the grid was not energized because the energy that had been induced by the solar storm was sufficient to transmit.

So, because the Earth was not a highly electrical place at the time,

that was a highly manageable, though interesting, event.

The problem is, if that happens again, and really it's not an if, it's a when, we now live on a planet in which everything depends on electricity.

Everything from the distribution of food and water to communications.

All of our lives have electrical components.

And what's worse, they're not even just electrical anymore.

They're electronic, which means they're highly sensitive.

So, a solar storm that is like the Carrington event of 1859 would create catastrophic disruption of our systems.

And

while, as I said before, we can't be perfectly safe.

We could be a great deal safer than we are.

And there is very little movement in that direction.

Is there anything that the individual can do?

Like,

I have, you know,

my own power source and everything else.

I'm, you know, off the grid.

Is there something like, can you, EMP proof, is that enough for this?

Well,

it depends because the significance of the EMP

ranges.

So there's probably nothing you could do about an absolute worst-case scenario, but there are many scenarios that are

far less dire.

And

what one discovers when you try to prepare for such things is that you should probably

ignore the absolute worst case because you could spend every dollar you have and every hour you have trying to make yourself safe from it, and you probably wouldn't.

So it's not worth it.

But the much more likely scenarios involve things that you can do.

You know, how many?

Can you go a month?

If the grid were to go down,

that's a good start.

Can you go a year?

Do you have a

plan to establish communications with the people who are,

let's say, within 100 miles of you, your friends and family,

who you would gather with in such a circumstance?

All those things are worth doing.

But the primary thing would require us to act collectively.

We need to harden the grid and I would argue we have compounded the danger of a grid failure with the way we have treated our nuclear reactors and the spent fuel that sits in the fuel pools.

That spent fuel has to be actively cooled to keep it from catching fire.

Oh, geez.

Once it's been in those pools for something like five years, the rods can be removed and they can be put in what's called a dry cask.

And a dry cask does not require active cooling.

But it's expensive to do, and so there's been resistance to moving that fuel into these stable containers, which means that if the grid were to go down, all nuclear powers require active electrical inputs to keep them from melting down.

If you were to get a meltdown,

you would lose control of the nuclear material in these reactors, and that would include all of the decades of spent fuel that's accumulated in the fuel pools.

So,

we could greatly reduce that hazard by simply taking the stuff that is cool enough to put in a dry cask and getting it there as quickly as possible.

And from the point of view, I know when people hear this kind of information, they panic.

That's not the right reaction.

We have been running this risk and getting lucky for many decades.

We are probably going to get through this

11-year solar maximum.

What I would do, if it were mine to say, is I would focus on being prepared for the next solar maximum in something like 11 years so that when that one comes, we are in a much better position to endure whatever the sun throws at us.

Brett, I thank you.

I felt your article last week was really eye-opening, and thank you for briefing everybody on that.

I appreciate it.

All right, thanks so much, Glenn.

Thank you.

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You know, I can't really imagine why we would

not harden everything if we're really talking about, you know, $10 billion

for America to be able to harden everything.

However, I mean, I know this is a really awful

bright side, but if we ever went into a situation to where everything was monitored,

everybody knows everything, and they can cage us all like in China, you know, a solar flare might be a godsend

and knock out all that technology.

Because technology, to me at least, is a miracle and also at the same time terrifying.

Can be.

Yeah.

No doubt about it.

But even if it costs $100 billion to solidify our infrastructure,

that's nothing.

We ship twice that to Ukraine for, I don't know, for oligarchs to be able to buy Ferraris.

Yes, and beach homes.

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I remember when Rush Limbaugh started going deaf.

And when

we were listening to him,

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And

we thought it was weird.

And I happened to be in the same company, and it was held very, very tightly

that uh he had problems and he was going deaf and

what the company did for him

i i don't know how the man did it um they put uh

sound vibration in his desk so he could have his hands on the desk and he could feel the vibration of music of his voice of the caller's voice then they had two transcribers that would transcribe the callers as they would would call in.

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I just get two crappy helpers off to the side who aren't really very helpful, really.

It's patent Stu.

And thank you.

I just wanted to tell that story, the difference between this cardboard show and the golden microphone of Rush Limbaugh.

That was beautiful.

Thank you, Glenn.

Really, really.

Really moved us, I think.

Yeah, I know.

Sincerely, I couldn't do it without you guys.

I thank you, Pat, especially.

I know you're working two shows.

Stu doesn't work even this show, but

that's true.

You know, you're working two shows.

He doesn't have one of his own that he's going to do after this.

No, we don't have to to worry about that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, you're doing a show tonight, Stu.

Yes, that's very true, Glenn.

I do it

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Is it on Wednesdays only?

It is not.

It's Monday through Thursday, and it airs at 8 p.m.

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Thank you for this opportunity to talk about Stu Does America.

What an incredible waste of electricity.

Thank you.

I agree.

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All right.

So let's talk about the debates just a bit.

Can we?

Yeah, this is a pretty wild morning today as they were.

Basically, this started with Joe Biden releasing a 13-second video in which he attempted to challenge.

I mean, this is the way they were promoting it.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

13 seconds, and you're saying he attempted to do something?

It was 13 seconds.

Yes.

Well, 13 seconds, you'd think that would be easy, but he had five jump cuts in the 13 seconds.

Oh, my gosh.

He could not get through the whole thing.

Yeah.

So he's unreal.

Do we have it?

We do have the video here.

This is Joe Biden coming from earlier today.

Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020.

Since then, he hadn't shown up for a debate.

Now he's acting like he wants to debate me again.

Well, make my day, pal.

I'll even do it twice.

So let's pick the dates, Donald.

I hear you're free on Wednesdays.

Get it?

Because

the trials going on.

Yeah.

What a jerk.

When did the presidential debates become MMA?

Well, I don't know.

It's a good point.

I mean, both, at least MMA fighters typically look like they could.

walk to the stage, you know, watching Biden there.

I mean, it's so bad to see the visuals of it, Glenn.

And I know you don't have eyeballs at the moment, but like it is,

it's a disgrace.

I mean, he looks like he's about to fall over.

He can't get through these sentences.

You can tell he's done these multiple times, and they're cutting together the best ones.

It looks really bad.

Well, how do you know?

And I mean this sincerely.

Let me give him the benefit of the doubt.

How do you know this isn't jump cuts because that's what social media does?

It makes it cool and viral.

So, I mean, in theory, that would mean he got through this all at once, but you can kind of see him starting.

And it's not very well edited.

Let's put it that way.

You can kind of see him starting the,

I don't know how to describe this to a non-TV production audience, but

you could see it.

I mean, if you look closely, you can see it.

How is that possible when you have Steven Spielberg now on the payroll

trying to make him look good?

I mean, they're definitely trying to simulate the typical TikTok thing, which they claim that they want to ban but continue to post on.

That's a whole whole different situation.

But I mean, it's being presented by the media as, wow, Joe Biden challenges Donald Trump to two debates.

This is not what is happening at all.

We, of course, have a presidential commission for debates set up that has been set up and has been going on for a very long time.

They were planning on having three debates.

So Joe Biden is now coming and challenging, quote-unquote, Donald Trump with, instead of three debates, two debates and two debates outside of the commission, which he would be, I think, the first candidate since the commission was founded in 1987 to avoid the commission.

He wants out of it.

And he wants them in the summer, right?

So he wants the first, so this long story, as we've been doing the show today, all of this has developed, but basically...

You know, Biden posts this horrible video.

Trump immediately is like, yeah, sure.

I've been saying I want to do this the whole time.

Right.

So he's like, fine, let's do it.

In fact, I'd like to do more of them.

You're easy to win against.

It was basically his response.

Then Biden said, okay, well, where are the dates?

How come you won't agree?

Which, of course, Trump had already agreed.

Then Biden said, hey, I just talked to CNN.

They want to do one, which seemed like

oddly quick.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

And I should also point out that Biden had a bunch of qualifiers here.

One of his qualifiers here for this debate, he wanted to do it outside of this format because they make the rules.

The commission makes the rules.

Biden wants to make the rules instead.

One of the rules he wants is no audience.

He wants it to be in a quiet room so that I guess people can't cheer Donald Trump.

No, hang on just a second.

But let's, again, give him the benefit of the doubt.

Everywhere he speaks, there's no one in the room.

That's true.

It's like homeschooling.

He's on the campaign trail.

There's nobody there.

Yeah, that's a fair point.

So it seemed like Biden's campaign, and this is going to sound shocking, but Biden's campaign in CNN may have had something arranged before.

No, no, no, no, no.

That's so cynical.

Yeah, it's so weird that they had a date and everything all set up five minutes later.

But men, long story short, back and forth, back and forth.

Trump apparently agreed to this very quickly, and they have now announced the date of the debate, which is, get this, June

27th.

June

27th, which is only 43 days from today.

You know why this is happening?

I don't.

A,

you do it in the fall.

It's going to be Michelle Obama.

And B,

the most important is

it will be so far in the past.

I think that's what it is.

You don't want to have a bad impression of a debate

in, you know, October or September.

You don't want to have that.

Right.

Everybody will forget this.

This is old news if you do one in June and it goes badly.

And of course, you could always bail on the second one if the first one goes badly if you're Joe Biden.

The second one is supposedly scheduled or loosely scheduled for September.

No date on that one yet or where it's going to be.

But Biden is saying he wants to have it on, he's only allowing four

networks to be considered, which I think is CNN, ABC, CBS, and Univision, maybe.

It's the four.

There's four.

All-friendly to all-friendly Biden and his agenda.

He wants Donald Trump's mic cut off when he's speaking is reportedly one of the things.

We don't have the full list

quite yet.

But think about the timing of this.

Normally these things happen in like October.

You know, this one is in June, and it is multiple weeks before either of the conventions.

The Republican convention happens on

the week of July 15th, and this debate is happening June 27th.

The Democratic convention doesn't happen until the week of August 19th.

So, way before the debates, I mean, honestly, it could easily be before Donald Trump even picks a vice presidential candidate.

This debate could happen.

Well, I mean, again, Joe's got to get it in before Michelle Obama stuff.

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I thought I told you guys this yesterday, but maybe you weren't listening.

Because usually Stu is,

you know, Stu's listening to Rogan during this.

How's he doing so far today?

Oh, he's hilarious.

It's a really funny one.

Okay, good.

So

the theory is, you know, the color revolution.

Color revolution requires

a dictator, somebody that the left can call a dictator and is a horrible monster that wants to change the Constitution.

Which one of you told me today that the charge is that he's going to come in and Donald Trump's going to completely change the Constitution?

Was that Cohen's testimony yesterday?

It wasn't his testimony.

That was something he said.

I think it was on a TikTok at some point.

Right, okay.

So

a color revolution requires somebody that you can say is a bad monster.

And the

final step in what has been built, I believe, is a color revolution.

It's something the State Department really kind of came up with starting with the Arab Spring.

We did that.

Our State Department did that.

The same thing in Ukraine.

We did that.

And it's happening here in America, or at least it appears to be happening here in America.

So if you get Donald Trump, if he wins, you then have the ability to go out on the street, cause all kinds of chaos,

and have the

the deep state

take care of it and flip the country entirely.

And if you look at, you remember what Michelle Obama said when she said, you know, Barack knows we got to change everything.

What hasn't been changed?

I mean, just look at the debates.

Now the debates happening in the summer before the conventions.

Outside of the commission, which is huge.

I mean, who's this is the guy that preached, you need to elect me to return to normalcy.

And now he's not participating in the Presidential Debate Commission?

Correct.

Congress doesn't make any of these laws.

All of the oppressive stuff that is happening.

Let me ask you this:

who creates more jobs than anyone else when you're in a recession or a depression?

Who is the main driver of jobs, job creation?

Small business.

Exactly.

Do you know that Biden is preaching

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would receive a 20% tax hike.

What small business, what restaurant, what little

store, mom and pop can afford in these conditions a 20% tax hike?

Everything they're doing, they are destroying our traditions, our language, the way we relate to each other, all of it.

It's all been changed.

Yeah, they pulled that one off.

And the amazing thing is they told us they were going to.

I mean, that was, I mean, we've played it a million times, but that's exactly what Michelle Obama promised.

And Barack knows that we are going to have to make sacrifices.

We are going to have to change our conversation.

We're going to have to change our traditions, our history.

We're going to have to move into a different place.

And here we are in that different place.

And I really, you know,

when I worked at Fox,

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When I went to work for Fox and I saw that there are gatekeepers, Rupert Murdoch was one of them.

that you just you cannot get into an upper echelon.

The only reason why Donald Trump can do it is because he could really rally the people and he had his own money and he was just really good at getting past all of this.

But he was never in the club.

And

the average person can't do that.

And

there really are shepherds, or I shouldn't say shepherds,

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And the average American is looked at by these ranchers, the elites, as cattle.

It doesn't matter.

When they don't need our economic activity anymore or they don't need

us for labor anymore, we're in real trouble because they're impoverishing all of us.

None of this is being done for the average person.

All of this stuff

goes right directly to help the big banks, the big companies,

the industry of government.

none of it is geared toward you and the dinner table and your children.

There is really two separate societies now.

And until people really wake up to that,

I don't know if we'll solve it as they continue to change everything

that

we used to call normal.

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political people and everybody who

we all know we are being monitored.

We know it.

You're being monitored.

Everybody in America is being monitored.

Everybody in America, keywords are said and it's picked up and then you're on a list.

And I don't know what those keywords are.

I just know that you should know everything you say and type is being recorded by the United States government.

Screw the Fourth Amendment and all the other amendments, okay?

So Eric went to work and he's been working on this, gosh, for I don't even know how many years, maybe five.

And this is, you guys can see it because I can't be on camera because I'm just hideous.

I look like the Phantom of the Opera.

But Pat, can you see this?

Yes.

It looks just like an iPhone,

but it's not.

This is entirely new and different.

They're having a hard time advertising because Google and Apple are suppressing everything because they don't want these phones to be a competitor.

They're about the price of an iPhone.

It's about $1,000.

But this is remarkable.

It's fully encrypted.

Now, everything can be broken, but this is probably the best encryption on any phone.

It works on a VPN.

So, like right now, if I swipe and I'm looking something up, it's on a VPN.

And this morning I'm on a VPN, and it looks like my phone is in Singapore.

It has encrypted

chat.

Everything on it

is made so no data is collected at all.

Even the unplugged company can't gather any data off of the phone.

It doesn't really store the data, and any data that it does store, it has a button on it that wipes it clean, and everything's gone.

So everything you do, everything you say,

this is

completely enclosed in this phone.

When you turn it off, off means off.

It cuts the microphone, it cuts the camera.

So only when you engage the microphone or you engage the camera

does it work.

It also has a kill switch on it.

When you turn it off, it's off.

But you know how, you know,

batteries, if the thing is still going, they always say, take your battery out.

How do you take your battery out of your iPhone?

You can't.

This has a button on the side that you, when it's off, you can push that and it disconnects the battery from the electronics.

So now there's no data tracking, there's no way to, you know, your phone is, it's like a burner phone.

I think

anybody who is, just wants privacy, I don't want people collecting, especially, Stu, how many weird-ass things have we Googled?

I always put that on your computer, but yeah, no, there's been some weird stuff that has gone through this company.

You know, we look into things, and

you look into my Google records, man, you would think, I don't know, I'm a serial killer or what,

but because we do this for work, we're looking into all kinds of crazy things.

I don't want any record of anything that I do.

I

prize my privacy, and you should too.

Go to unplugged.com.

This, by the way, is not a commercial.

I just got this a couple of days ago and been playing with it.

My security has been working with it as well to check it out.

But so far, this thing is incredible.

And you can find out about it at unplugged.com.

Get off of Google.

For God's sake, get off of Google and get off of Apple.

It has its own browser.

It has everything that you need, and it is completely secure, or I should say, as secure as you can make it.

And it comes from the founder of Blackwater.

It's unplugged.com.

Check it out, unplugged.com.

Does it also eliminate spam?

Yes, it does.

Yeah.

It cuts out all ads, anything, because there's no data to be collected on you.

So it's not serving you things.

You'll know if you're looking to buy something, you'll know that you haven't been nudged to buy

one thing or another.

What about all the websites that want your cookies?

So you're not getting them, right?

You're not giving them.

So can you not

access those?

Can you access things with cookies?

Your website?

Yeah, because you're on a VPN, right?

Yeah, you're on a VPN.

So you can accept all the cookies, but they don't go to your phone.

So they block all cookie-related websites?

Like, for example, kexi.com, kexi.com, K-E-K-S.

No, those are the only cookies I always accept.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

I accept them always.

Okay.

Good safety, too.

Do we have more details now?

Because this is all happening in real time.

The bizarre turn of events now where Joe Biden, play that stupid video of Joe Biden.

It was just released about an hour ago.

If you have it.

Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020.

Sounds said he hadn't shown up for debate.

Not exactly like he wants to debate me again.

Well, make my day, pal.

I'll even do it twice.

So let's pick the dates, Donald.

I hear you're free on Wednesdays.

He is such a bad guy.

You know what I mean?

Very much so.

And he is just a thug.

He's just a thug.

And it seems like the strategy here was to try to get out in front of it, say that he wanted the debate, and then put up ridiculous terms, assuming that Trump would say no, and then he could say, Well, I asked for debates, and Donald Trump said no.

Trump is going to say no to that guy?

I don't think so.

I think that may have been what their thought was because I don't think they're happy that he immediately accepted this and has taken all the terms.

I mean, he's accepted everything that Joe Biden asked for.

So, in case you're wondering, and the idea that

the only thing that worries me is if Dr.

Nick has an opening on the day of the debate,

Because they give him something when he's got to go.

That's true.

That's true.

And this is one criticism you can make, and

some are, of Donald Trump, which is Trump's response to this was like, Joe Biden is the worst debater I've ever seen.

He'll be lucky to get through multiple sentences in a row, which is, of course, I think true.

He's terrible.

But you are lowering expectations.

And there was some criticism in 2020 of that strategy from Trump, which lowered expectations so much that Biden theoretically was able to clear them by just standing for 90 minutes.

Yeah, no, I think Joe Biden is the best debater I've ever seen.

Yeah, he's fantastic.

He's fantastic.

Okay, so the debate is, I mean, it seems like both sides have already agreed to this.

So, I mean, it's set in stone as far as at least this moment.

June 27th, 2024,

at 9 p.m.,

as CNN calls it, from the crucial battleground state of Georgia.

That's a nice, exciting way of saying their studios are located in Georgia.

It's just going to be at their Atlanta studios.

It is hilarious.

I didn't even think of that.

That is so great.

How do we save money?

The crucial battleground of Georgia.

To ensure candidates may maximize the time allotted in the debate.

Listen to this.

No audience will be present.

I mean, that has spin, and that is almost directly from, you know, the Biden campaign.

It's like Corinne Jean-Pierre wrote that line because that's not why they're doing it.

They don't want Donald Donald Trump's fans cheering loudly.

You know what?

If you want to do that, you want to save vital time, stop with all the stupid applause in the State of the Union address.

Yeah, yeah.

The thing would be 10 minutes long

without all the applause.

I don't mind not having a debate or not having an audience, honestly.

I don't mind them.

More time for Joe Biden to speak, I think, is better anyway.

But additional details will be announced at a later date.

Now, this is interesting if you happen to be, have the last name Kennedy.

To qualify for participation, candidates must fulfill the requirements outlined in Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution of the United States, file a statement of candidacy with the FEC.

This is the most important part if you're RFK.

A candidate's name must appear on a sufficient number of state ballots to reach 270 electoral votes to win the presidency prior to the eligibility deadline.

Now, it does seem like RFK Jr.

will get there eventually, but he probably isn't going to get there in a few weeks.

Another reason why they're doing it early.

Yeah, keeps him out of it.

Now, there is an additional, and this has been relatively normal

as far as debate, but this is also going to be hard for RFK to hit, which is he must receive at least 15% in four separate national polls.

That is between

going back to March all the way up until I think it's the beginning of June, if I'm not mistaken.

But bottom line is he could theoretically get to that.

He's not there now, but he could, if he got a good polling burst, get a few over 15%.

But he's probably not going to be able to get to 270 electoral votes no matter what he does in that time period.

He's only on the ballot, I think, in four states right now.

He'll have more than that by the time this comes around, but that's a really heavy lift for an independent campaign, even one that's relatively well-funded, considering his choice in vice president.

You know, that actually might be good for Trump, too.

I don't think, yeah, I don't, I mean, RFK is not going to win.

This is a very good question.

No, he's not.

No, he's not.

And I think he's going to pull more people away from

Biden.

But he could pull some people away from Trump

because of the vaccine and

everything else.

And

the only thing going against him is, oh, dear God, I couldn't listen to 90 minutes of him speak.

That would be very difficult.

It is so voice.

You did an interview with him, and it's hard to listen to it.

It's like you almost need to read the transcript of RFK.

And again, that's not his fault.

That sucks.

I really feel bad for him, whatever it is that went on with

his voice, but he also has, I think, a hard time breathing.

Yeah.

Have you noticed that?

He'll be like, and I

have to tell you about it.

And it seems painful, or he says it's not, or at least really difficult to speak uh okay so when's the first debate uh june 27th 2024 9 p.m eastern so i mean we're you know it's only six weeks away basically crazy and it just broke today and cnn was right there going we'll do it in atlanta it's a crucial place and

we're already setting up the chairs to not be in the room and

draw attention to the fact that they've just abandoned the presidential debate commission this is an immense an immense story.

And they're all just like, well,

how do we embrace this back and forth Twitter war that's going on between the candidates?

Like, this is a guy who said he's the return to normalcy.

We were more normal under Donald Trump than we are now.

Oh,

by far.

Totally.

He's not the return to normalcy, but that is how he presented himself.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And, you know, he makes fun of Trump in there.

He's like, oh, he didn't do any of the debates.

I don't know if anyone noticed.

Neither did Biden.

Biden did not debate RFK Jr., who, remember, did hit 20% on one of these polls.

I mean, it wasn't like he was a complete unknown.

He's got the ultimate legacy name in Kennedy, and he got no attention or love at all from

the Biden administration.

They avoided it completely.

He's practically loading the gun.

Yeah, I mean, you could argue very clearly that he's trying to get the man killed.

I mean,

he's not giving him Secret Service protection, which is completely insane when you think about the history of this family.

Yeah.

It's, it's, it's, and, and the history of the left.

The history of the left,

most assassinations have come from the left.

Most violence has come from the left, historically speaking.

And you have this guy out there with the Kennedy name.

He's having people get into his house, everything else.

And no secret, sir.

It is absurd.

It's absurd.

By the way, breaking news.

We're in the middle of this.

Joe Biden claims, and this is only coming from Biden, but that he has received an invitation to a debate hosted by ABC on Tuesday, September 10th.

This would be the second debate.

And we believe Trump has also agreed to this.

So we may have two of them set up.

I mean, the amount of time it takes for the government to do anything,

it's months and months to get a road fixed anywhere near my house, but they could set up two debates in 15 minutes as we're doing the show today.

So apparently that is now a second one, ABC News in September.

Again, way before the election, though.

I mean, almost two full months before the election takes place, which is not normal for these debates.

Well, the good news is,

you know, you have ABC News and CNN, so we know it's going to be terra neutral.

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Well, if in case you're just joining us, the President of the United States dissolves the Commission on Presidential Debates this morning.

But Donald J.

Trump has now agreed to both debates.

CNN, June 27th, ABC News, September 10th.

He says.

My great honor to accept the CNN debate against Crooked Joe Biden, the worst president in the history of the United States, and a true threat to democracy on June 27th.

Likewise, I accept the ABC News debate against Crooked Joe on September 10th.

Thank you.

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