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We've got
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It's actually, you know, these Palestine protesters, the Hamas,
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Pat and stew for Glenn today.
Glenn is getting eye surgery today.
He is.
So, yeah, our thoughts and prayers are with him for sure.
So, probably today and tomorrow, and then hopefully take the weekend and be back on Monday.
That is the belief.
That's currently, yes, currently, what we're going by.
So,
yeah, your thoughts and prayers would be greatly appreciated.
It looks like there are some universities, Sacramento State, and others who have caved in to the demands of the protesters now and
have agreed to completely divest from Israel.
It's an interesting request, isn't it, though?
Yeah, it is.
Divest Israel.
Now, if you were to say, divest from
defense
corporations that are funding munitions that Israel is using,
you might say, okay, well, they're against the war.
Remove all of my holdings from Raytheon.
Right.
For instance, you could say, well, they're against the war.
They don't like that type of stuff.
If you were to say,
you know, divest me from any, or divest the university from any
company that is currently supplying the troops in Israel.
It might be something that you could make the argument.
You are against this military effort.
You don't like what they're doing there.
Yes.
When you just say, I don't want to be involved with the Jews,
how does that have anything to do with this effort?
Because I mean, I would imagine, I mean, we've seen some polling to this effect that, I don't know, somewhere a quarter, a third of Israeli citizens are not on board with all the stuff that they're doing in Israel.
Many of them are like, just like it is here.
Many of them don't agree with everything that's going on there.
Yeah, you're not going to get 100% support on anything.
But they also, their companies also get divested from.
Yeah.
It seems like maybe there's just a problem with Jews generally rather than it's being specifically about this
war in Rafah.
which just seems like a, or anywhere, I guess, in Gaza, seems just like an excuse to say they don't like Jews.
Because when this effort was much more in its infancy, these same groups were asking for the same stuff.
In fact, before October 7th, many of these same groups were asking for the same stuff.
It's almost like, Pat, it's not about the war at all.
What?
Yeah.
I have these weird thoughts sometimes.
That is a strange thought, still.
Let me run this by you, Pat.
I shouldn't even be admitting to this because it's so strange.
It's such a strange thought.
A lot of people have been talking about how we have to give aid to people in Palestine.
You know, the Palestinian territories, Gaza must be, the aid must come, and it must come from the United States of America.
And these poor people just need aid.
And that's what this is about, helping these people eat.
Do you want children to starve to death, Pat?
I don't.
You don't.
I do not.
So when the Americans spend
$350 million of your taxpayer dollars to build a giant raft off of the side of the coast of Gaza
to deliver food to the people of Gaza.
And the response to that is that missiles keep getting fired at it.
Do you think it's about the food, really?
Because I don't.
It doesn't seem to be.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In our effort to provide them humanitarian aid in the Gaza Strip,
Hamas is firing rockets at that pier that we're building right now.
Yeah.
So it's weird.
Yeah, isn't it?
And, you know,
the other part about this is, as you know, Israel is in the midst of committing a genocide.
A genocide, Pat.
They are really bad at it.
Really?
They are terrible at genocide.
Yeah, they are.
For example, this pier that we're building
to give aid, you would think that it would be important to give aid to a population you were trying to commit genocide on.
But we are putting that pier there.
And
as you know, Pat, we will not put boots in the ground.
We will not.
That's why we're pulling up to the shore and we're letting the IDF come in
and do the last few feet of this pier to make sure that they can get the aid, which is weird because the IDF, my understanding was they were committing genocide.
Yeah.
Why would they be interested at all in supplying aid and helping this pier come to its fruition?
I'm very confused by all of this.
It's almost like someone's misleading us on this topic.
It's almost like that.
You know it can't be that.
No, that's but it's, you're right.
It's almost like that.
Strange.
Isn't it strange?
But when you bring these things up to the dummies who are protesting on all of these campuses across the country, all they want to say is, free Palestine, free Palestine.
Yeah, well, we're trying to tell you that it's a little more complicated than that.
I don't know.
It's
and wouldn't you argue
again another crazy point here Pat.
Let me just go out on the limb once again because I've been out here already.
It's almost like I'm on a pier outside of Gaza.
I'm way out on the pier on this one.
Mm-hmm.
But it seems to me
getting rid of Hamas is the best way to free Palestine.
If you really care about the people in Gaza, and if you get rid of Hamas, maybe they have a chance at a legitimate life
instead of one where they're being overrun by terrorists all the time and causing things like this because it was they who crossed the border of this, you know, quote-unquote border inside of a country, but they crossed a giant fence that was put up and they started executing Jews.
right across the fence and started massacring people at a music festival and started decapitating.
People, by the way, who were at a festival of peace.
Peace.
A festival that was calling for peace with Palestine.
Yep.
Many of the people, Pat, who lived near this border lived there because they were essentially, if you will, the hippies of the Israeli culture who were like, hey, we need to help these Palestinians.
We need to stop being so mean.
It was those people who got slaughtered.
You were in the meeting, Pat, weren't you?
Didn't you sit for the footage they brought in here?
I did not.
I'm too much of a wuss.
You actually saw what happened to these people.
What would the United States of America do if that occurred on our Canadian border?
What would our Mexican?
What would we do if a country did that to us?
We would relentlessly attack them.
I hope.
Under Biden, I'm not sure.
But normally,
we would attack them until we finish them off.
You know, until we finished off whatever group it was we held responsible for doing that.
Just as Israel has vowed to do with Hamas.
They should continue to uh to fight this war until hamas is eliminated if it was al-qaeda and they were on our border and we knew where they were is there any chance we stop and just say okay yeah we've done enough here we killed a few thousand of you but we're not going to finish the rest of you uh come on you absolutely not you have to finish the job here of course you do you have to and yeah these college students it would be interesting to see what would happen if that occurred in the united States of America.
And Pat, like,
I'm going out on the pier again.
Let me go out on the pier one more time.
I know I'm out there.
I
realize I'm all crazy talk.
You're alone with crazy talk.
But if October 7th never occurred, they should still have gone in and wiped out Hamas.
They should still have done the same stuff they're doing now.
None of this ever, because October 7th should never have occurred if they, if they, Israel, had
gone after Hamas in the way that you would, we would go after an internationally recognized terrorist group working within our borders.
Like if
Al-Qaeda just had New Mexico and we were like, ah, we've got a fence.
Like, that's enough.
I know they're firing rockets over the wall a lot and stuff.
And yeah, sure, you know, they hit Salt Lake last week and they hit Albuquerque, or excuse me,
you know, I don't know, Texarkana,
I don't know what they were firing at.
Something over the border.
We would not be like, eh, but there's a wall there.
And they, look, Al-Qaeda was rationally and fairly elected by the people of New Mexico.
So we have to let them have self-determination.
No.
No.
No.
It should never have come to this in the first place.
And, you know, the last estimate I heard, which is probably a month or so ago, was that there's about 40,000 active members of Hamas before October 7th, and that they had taken out 26,000 of them already.
Wow.
Which is pretty freaking impressive.
Yeah.
If that's true, there's 14,000 hiding largely in Rafah.
Got to go get the job done.
Finish the job.
Got to go get the job done.
Go in there, and you get as many of those as you can, and you end this forever.
And if you don't do this, you're not, like, Netanyahu
would not be doing his job as if, which is the same way that Joe Biden would be doing his job if Al-Qaeda took over New Mexico.
It would be completely absurd to just leave them there.
It's nuts
in every way.
And like, look, the fact that the people, by the way, the innocent, let's call it, there are some people in Palestine, in the Palestinian territories in Gaza, who are
not Hamas supporters.
The number is incredibly small, but they do exist.
And those people very well might be victimized first by Hamas and now by a war going on all around them.
That's really sad.
It sucks.
We know that some aid workers have been killed.
That's terrible.
War is awful.
It's an awful thing.
You shouldn't want to do it.
However, sometimes you have to do it.
And that is where we are.
You know, they're like, oh, well,
they're a famine.
It's a famine in the north right now.
A famine.
There are famine conditions going on.
No one's supposed to be there.
It doesn't matter if there's a famine in a place where there are no people.
But some people, like Hamas members, didn't evacuate.
So they're still there.
And I'm sure life does suck in the area they're not supposed to be.
You know where else there's famine?
Princeton.
Princeton University.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
No, Pat.
Yes.
I heard that.
Elon Omar at Columbia was having her issues, but now Elon Omar's daughter, she was starving and homeless.
Right now, this is happening too.
This is happening at Princeton.
It's happening to a certain extent at the University of Pennsylvania.
I mean, these Ivy League schools are experiencing famine right now, and we need to do something about it.
There needs to be humanitarian aid to get to these people that are experiencing this famine.
We'll get to that coming up in about a minute.
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Well, students at Ireland's prestigious Trinity College, Dublin,
ended their five-day-long protest against Israel's war with Hamas in Gaza after their demands were met by the university leadership.
Oh, great.
Isn't that great?
Isn't that wonderful?
You don't negotiate.
You do negotiate with terrorists.
You do.
Yes.
You do.
That's the saying, right?
Yes.
You do.
The new saying is, yes, you do negotiate with terrorists.
Great.
Yeah.
Now, I don't know.
Has this group, what's been the story with this one, Pat?
Has this one been one of the more violent protests?
Has this been one of the more calm ones?
No, it's and it's only been going on for five days, and they're already cave.
So five days of tent days.
Is it a tent situation?
Is it just it is a tent situation?
Yeah.
So you can't have a tent around there, around the university in Dublin.
That would be egregious and intolerable.
So now, my understanding, Pat, is when you saw the the first tent go up, what you do is you take it down.
Really?
And then, you know, the second tent goes up.
Right.
You go then take that one down.
Oh, okay.
You do take that one down.
You throw it away.
Okay.
Yeah.
So they can't put it back up.
You don't give it back to them.
You just take it down.
And then there's a third tent.
And do you tell them to go home or do you just let them stay there without the tent?
Oh, you just tell them to go home.
And if they do, they don't, then you just, you either expel them or call the cops and have them arrested.
Wow.
Yeah, I know.
It's interesting.
You're not allowed to just sleep anywhere you want.
Well, what about the encampment at the University of Pennsylvania, though?
Because you just allow that to continue, right?
Well, then you negotiate with them.
There are some minor exceptions.
Are there?
Yeah,
no.
No.
That's the only exception is no.
No.
And you do not let them stay there, and you do not negotiate with them.
In fact, you actually triple down and invest in random Israeli technology companies just to piss them off.
I would love to see that.
That's what I would do.
Oh, my gosh.
I would love to see that.
How that would set off these little darlings.
Isn't it?
It's adorable.
Let's visit the encampment at Penn and Cut 23.
Smells here, Pat.
Can you imagine?
I can't even imagine.
I can't even imagine the odors going on in that in any of these quads.
But here's a little.
I'm here at my alma mater, the University of Pennsylvania, to see firsthand what is happening with these anti-Israel terror encampments that are causing trouble on campuses all across the country.
Can I ask you guys a couple of questions?
Where are you probably interested in?
Okay, can you just step back a little bit?
I just felt like you got really close to me.
Thank you.
Are you a student here?
I'm not going to answer that question.
Are you a student here?
We should talk to our media people.
Okay, where are they?
Hi, can I speak to somebody from your media team?
Because nobody else will talk to me.
No.
No, you can't talk to a media team.
Hi, I'm here with Ben.
He is a current student at Penn.
Have you walked past and walked through the encampment?
I walked past.
I mean, this is where I study.
This is the biggest library on campus.
It's final season.
every single seat is full and unfortunately we have to hear it inside.
How has it impacted your ability to study for finals and take your exams?
Just seeing some of the stuff that they're cheering and sometimes it's difficult to concentrate when people are calling for the genocide of Jews right outside of the library you're trying to study in.
Do you want to talk about genocide?
Could be different.
Genocide or anything.
Can you all please spin this out?
He's a Penn student and I'm a Penn alum.
Do you go here?
No comment.
Okay, thank you.
So we're going to stay here.
Thanks.
How do you feel about what you just said about how they're not calling for the genocide of Jews when we've clearly heard them call for Intifada revolution and from the river to the sea?
And those are both calls for genocide of the Jews.
So along with those two...
That's gaslighting, no?
Yes.
I mean, along with those two cheers, which are obviously calling for the genocide of Jews, they're waving the flags of PFLP, which is responsible for the deaths of many Israelis and Jews.
You have them praising Hamas, cheering Al Qassem, make us proud.
They're cheering and celebrating when we have videos of the October 7th massacre playing and women getting...
raped.
Do you have any message for the Penn administration or the mayor?
I just think the message is that Jewish students are not feeling safe right now.
We feel alone.
We feel isolated.
As a student, I should be able to go on any ground I want without non-students telling me where and where to not go based on my ethnic identity and me wearing a Jewish star.
I couldn't agree more.
As a Penn alum, this is disgusting.
Thank you, Ben.
I appreciate it.
This is a pretty heartbreaking few hours here at Penn.
You know, I saw graduates trying to take their graduation picture, celebrating the most beautiful milestone of their life so far.
And in the background of every photo was this encampment, this encampment that's promoting hate promoting terrorism and you know the administration the police department and the mayor are allowing this to happen these
why campers are camping illegally on Penn's campus and my thoughts and prayers are with the Jewish students here at Penn and on campuses all over the country this should not be allowed to happen we need our leaders to lead yeah huh You know, I would imagine it's true that Penn's finals probably difficult right off the bat.
And then you add in the chance of genocide in the background.
Not always easy to get through that.
It does make concentrating on your finals exam a little bit tougher.
A little tougher.
Just a tad.
But you know what?
They're Penn students.
They can handle the challenge.
Whatever.
Yeah.
This is apparently now the real world.
I guess they might just get used to it.
That is unbelievable.
And there's much more where that came from.
I don't know why it's being tolerated on so many campuses across the country.
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We are checking out some of the campus
protesters.
I guess you would label them campus protesters.
The student supporting Hamas, we've got a pro-Hamas student who was weeping about her Zionist family,
one of these encampments.
Here she is, cut 24.
If you support and are advocating for Palestine, can you please leave me a comment?
I'm feeling so alone and I'm feeling so crazy.
No, huh.
I'm away from my home where my community is, where we all support Palestine.
And I'm on a very short trip with my family.
And all of them are Zionists.
And I'm the only one who is not, and who is
advocating for a family.
It's got a Zionist family.
Can you imagine?
I've tried to have so many conversations with them in the past
about all of this and why genocide equals bad, basically, and why genocide equals bad.
Is that a confirmed family?
And that is what
is happening.
Now, genocide equals bad, unless it's being perpetrated by Hamas, I guess.
Yeah, that's fine.
That's October 7th was fine.
Yeah, that was fine.
Right?
Well, it was deserved.
And the actual Holocaust, I assume, is fine.
Apparently, that was fine as well.
For the people in this group.
But she wants you to know that this is difficult.
Can you imagine?
I mean, can you imagine
the just...
The almost gymnastics level eye roll that must be happening in the car with this kid trying to explain why Palestine is even a country at all, let alone in the right in this particular conflict.
Right.
And that Palestine is not a country, by the way.
No, not at all.
Not at all.
Never been.
Never been a country.
Never been a country.
And
could have been, could have been a country in 1947.
It was offered to them.
When Israel was created, they also created a country called Palestine, which was
rejected by the Palestinians because they wanted to kill the Jews and drive them off.
Let me think of it.
From the river to the sea, I believe is what they want.
Palestine will
free.
Well, now it's not.
No.
In fact, it doesn't even exist.
No.
So that was a poor decision.
And there's been a
lot of these kids even know.
How many of them?
None of them.
None of them.
None of them know the history of this.
None of them care about the history.
All they care about is, I think, skipping class.
But
I would respect that, though.
Yeah.
In some way.
Like, I remember
when I was in high school, we had these walkouts all the time.
I just remember them.
Participate.
Yeah, 100%.
Now, what were they about?
No idea.
No idea.
No one ever knew what they were about.
No one cared what they were about.
So in Connecticut, you had walkouts in high school.
Oh, yeah.
And you didn't even know what they were about, but you walked out.
Of course I did.
Of course you did.
I was inside of school, and the option was to be outside of school.
Yeah.
So I took that option, and I was probably supporting all sorts of terrible things.
I mean, I think my remembrance of them were more like they were like local issues of some sort.
I don't even know.
Like some, probably probably some bond that the, you know, the
local politicians were pushing.
I don't know.
All I know is that a big groundhog day off.
Yes, I was a big ground.
I was a big groundhog day off type of guy.
Yeah.
You know, look, it's just, it was just the right thing to do.
And I stand by that policy to this day.
Arbor Day, we don't celebrate Arbor Day at this school.
It was probably crap like that.
Yeah.
And I walked out on that too.
You walk out and then you're, here's the thing, Pat.
There's a building and you're outside of it.
That was what I was standing for.
Yeah.
And then when you came back in, when they made you come back in, and it was funny because it was always praised.
It was always like, look at these students taking initiative.
It was the same crap that leads to the nonsense we're seeing on campus, right?
Yep.
You know, I mean, that is, I grew up in Connecticut, so I might explain some of these things.
But it's like, it's just an issue where basic,
basic understanding.
of this conflict is important.
We say this all the time, Pat.
Learn then protest.
The order is important.
You can get that t-shirt, by the way, learnthenprotest.com.
But if you go there and you get the shirt, you can wear it to these protests and inform these people about this because knowing something about this particular conflict is important before you take a position on it.
Very important.
It's not, you know, this hasn't just, this didn't just start even on October 7th, Pat.
It goes back before that a little ways.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
Does it go back to like September of last year?
Does it go back that far?
Even farther.
Farther than September of last year?
Yes.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
You know, this has been going on for a while.
And people have been trying to do the same thing.
Thousands of years.
Thousands of years, for instance.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And interesting.
You know, maybe knowing something about this.
And like.
The thing is, you can't explain this to them, though, because they don't want to hear it.
They don't care.
I've seen people trying to explain the conflict, and all they do is
yell back in their face their stupid slogans, like, you know, river to the sea, bullcrap.
I mean, I don't know that there's any reasoning with these kids.
I don't know that they can be
taught common sense or brought up to speed on understanding how complicated this process has been and the history of it.
And it is a long, winding history, but it is.
You know, when it comes down to picking which side is right,
it's not that complicated.
Not hard at all.
It's pretty darn clear.
Yeah.
And, you know, look,
look at the countries that border Israel and look at their open arms they're providing to the Palestinians right now.
And it shows you exactly what the problem here is.
Again, that doesn't mean every Palestinian is bad by any means, but what it does mean is when you look at the polling of this region, you look at a region that, like, I don't know how you solve the problems in this area.
I mean, when you have 90%
of people who are supportive of the efforts of October 7th,
and I've seen everywhere from 70 to 90, but let's say 70%.
It's a vast majority.
It's very difficult to unwind a problem like that.
You have to start, of course, with eliminating the terrorist group who they elected to run the operation.
But I mean, like, you know, you go back to Imperial Japan and you'd see some
polls that would look impossible, I'm sure, at that time, too.
You know, and God works miracles.
So who knows what can happen long-term in this region?
I hope it's something positive.
But man,
I wouldn't be throwing money down on the table to bet on it at this point.
Me neither.
It doesn't seem
when it comes to human abilities to change
the path of history,
I think we've gone past that at this point.
All you can do is protect yourself
and your population from being murdered.
That's all you can do at this point.
I don't know.
Only God has a solution to something like this.
That's why it's so frustrating when they keep stating there needs to be a two-state solution.
And, you know, that was tried 70 years ago.
They tried the two-state solution for the entire time since.
There can be no two-state solution while one of the parties wants the complete annihilation of the other one.
And when you say, oh, they've been talking, who, the politicians?
Sure, there have been American politicians who have been talking a lot about this.
Listen to the protesters.
Listen to the people in Gaza.
What they say is, we don't want no two-state.
We want everything.
It's a terrible chant and also has a double negative, which kind of makes it sound sound like they do want a
two-state, but I think what they're saying is they would not like a two-state solution.
That's what I think.
I think you're right on that.
Based on the other chants wrapped around it with From the River to the Sea and such.
And why is it that during this protest, rhyming isn't as important as normal?
That bothers me.
Great question.
Bothers me.
That's the key question of these protests.
I think it is.
You got to take time to come up with a rhyme.
Yeah, come on.
Especially with ChatGPT on the scene.
Right.
Just ask ChatGPT.
Can you make this rhyme somehow?
And I'm sure it could, right?
Do you have chat GPT?
Yeah, let me see if I can try it.
Okay.
Give me a chant that rhymes that opposes Zionism.
Okay.
How long will this take?
I don't know.
Let's see.
It's saying, okay, it says it's
there's everything with chat GPT.
Yes,
I have that goal.
There's always a disclaimer.
Because, you know, whenever it first started, it was like, hey, Jews are bad.
And you're like, oh, maybe we should rework on ChatGPT.
So it says, I'm here to promote understanding and thoughtful discussion on complex and sensitive topics.
If you're looking for help to create a chant or message, it's important to focus on promoting peace, understanding, and respectful dialogue rather than opposition.
Chat GPT has not been to the college campuses.
Does not know that this is not the goal at all.
It's not even close to the goal.
Excuse them for a second.
And so I had to write, yes, I have the goal of peace or whatever.
They said, here's their chant.
Peace and dialogue, let's unite, understanding and respect.
We invite.
Oh, man.
That's good.
Today we stand hand in hand for justice and peace throughout the land.
That doesn't work, though.
It doesn't work.
That doesn't fit.
Let's see.
Now give me one.
Can you include the words?
We're not interested in it in the two-state, because maybe they can make that rhyme some.
Okay.
We don't want no two state.
I don't know, you know,
again, when you have this and it will already do
something like maybe because the Jews really aren't great.
Designers.
I mean, it's not the way they went.
It's not the way they went.
Here we go.
Okay.
We don't want no two-state.
Let's talk.
Let's negotiate.
Unity and peace.
We advocate.
Together, a single path we create.
Now,
this is just a point.
It doesn't make much sense.
You're not reaching my goal here.
No, I want something more violent towards Jews, chat GPT.
I don't understand.
But it's funny because, like, you know, it's a basic thing.
You're supposed to be able to, it should have a rhythm and a rhyme to it.
And they have abandoned this entire part of the movement, and it's disappointing.
Again, I don't know why that's okay this time.
No.
It's never been okay before.
I mean, this dates back to to even pre-vietnam i mean we were we were doing these really catchy chants that rhymed and so i'm very disappointed in chat gp2 i i'm very disappointed in these particular protesters as well uh because that's that's not an issue for them but what i am i'm wondering is uh have they gotten lunch yet today oh i hope so and uh is it Is it gluten-free?
Are there no bananas and no nuts involved?
Because many people have allergies to both of those things.
Do people, a lot of people have.
Banana allergies seem to be a big thing on these campuses right now.
No bananas.
Exclamation point is often stated.
Bananas are
incredible.
I love bananas.
I love bananas.
I usually eat at least one and maybe two bananas in a day.
They're delicious.
I love them.
And it kind of come in their own packaging, which is fantastic.
It is nature's perfect food.
It really is.
That's how they used to talk about it on the commercials, I remember.
And they were right.
And they were right.
They were right.
Like, this is, with the exception of it,
do go after about a week, they turn imperfect.
Yes, but other than that, but then you still have banana bread you can make out of them,
which is delicious.
Which, by the way, I believe Kexie Cookies made at one point.
Did Kexie.com?
Kexi.com did make
delicious banana bread.
Really, really good.
Which hopefully they come back with at some point soon.
I think we might, really.
Based on your recommendation right there.
Freaking love it.
It's nature's perfect food, Pat.
From the river to the sea, banana bread stew, we'll soon see.
That's chat PAT.
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apparently canceled her book tour uh fairly abruptly Why?
What's going on?
Huh?
Was it not going well?
Was there something about it that displeased her?
I don't understand.
This sucks.
It's sad.
I wish this did not occur.
Me too, because I really like it.
So does Cricket, by the way.
Cricket also wishes this did not occur.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cricket.
Cricket.
Cricket the dog.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's not gone well.
This has not been in a successful VP rollout.
Not gone well.
And I don't think that there's now.
Do you think she was the pick?
No, I don't think she was the pick.
I think she she was in the conversation for the pick.
Yeah, I think so, too.
Until this.
And now she is no longer in the conversation.
She would have been a good choice.
I like Christy Noam.
Yes, she would have.
I think there's reasons to believe she would have been a good choice.
However, I think the way that this has gone convinces me it would not have been a good choice.
Well, yeah, her judgment seems to be a little flawed.
Yes, massively flawed.
A, why did you kill the dog when you could have given it away to somebody?
I mean, I know you didn't want your kids to be endangered.
Okay, fair.
Humane society.
I don't know.
A different farm where there's not children involved.
Somebody might have taken the dog, right?
Of course.
Somebody would have taken it.
It would have been much better to drive into the middle of the forest and release it on its own recognizance.
You know what I mean?
I just, I don't know.
It might have survived.
Maybe it had a chance.
Probably not the gunshot wound of the head will it survive, but maybe releasing it on its own.
But let's just.
But then what do you put in the book?
Why the book?
There's a report that said that she had tried to put it in a previous
and
got talked out of it by her aides, and then she's like, No, I got to do it this time.
It's like, that's your judgment, my guy.
Shooting the dog's really, really bad.
Thinking that that is a plausible, palatable story for the American people, who, by the way, in case you're wondering about how the human mind works, are immediately going to picture their own dog in this situation.
Yeah, right?
Like, it's like the worst possible thing you could do.
Yeah, and then
even beyond all of Kim Jong-un.
Kim Jong-un.
But even beyond all all of this,
the tour and the pushback, the way she's tried to argue her way out of it, has been so bad.
It just shows that she does not have that ability in a big spot to be able to,
I don't know, manage these situations appropriately.
I think it means not only is her VP chance over,
so is her chance for any other elected office.
I would not be stunned to see her in the cabinet somewhere.
I would not be stunned to see it if Trump were to win.
Because she has been loyal and Trump.
But barring that, can you even see her running for senator from South Dakota?
I don't know.
I don't.
It would be tough.
That'd be really hard.
Very, very tough at this point.
Yep.
This is not been, it's not been a good couple weeks.
No.
Not been a good couple weeks before.
No.
And it's all self-inflicted.
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It looks like maybe the fortunes of Christy Noam are
not exactly skyrocketing right now.
She apparently just canceled her book tour.
She canceled on Greg Guttfeld and Dana Perino interviews yesterday at the last minute.
They didn't seem too happy about it.
In fact, Gutfeld instead interviewed Dana Perino as Christy Noam, and that was a little brutal.
So
is her political career over?
I mean, I wouldn't say that, honestly.
I think I would not be stunned to see Trump bring her in in some ways.
He does not mind people who have their issues, you know, that have had their troubles.
In fact, I think sometimes he likes people like that, that have maybe struggled and he can give them a little hand up
in their moment of need that often garners loyalty from a person.
And I think it's not crazy to for me to believe that she still has a role somewhere in the advanced
if he were to win.
But again, as far as a VP, I think it's over.
I do too.
And honestly, like
as a person who loves dogs and cannot picture doing that to a dog, and I get that I'm the least farmer person in the world.
I do not live on a farm.
I grew up in Connecticut.
So I have no understanding as to what life is like on the farm, nor do I I want to, frankly.
I don't want, I've heard Glenn talk about some of the things that happen on the farm.
I don't,
I like to be in a bubble when it comes to that stuff.
Thank God there are farmers out there doing difficult work that I, because if it was up to me, we'd all die.
That's essentially how this would end.
So I, I, that disclaimer completely out there.
Uh, it's even more
about her handling of it than it is the actual dog.
Like,
you are going to come up because the actual dog actually actually died 20 years ago.
Right.
Okay.
That's long over.
Yes.
And so and honestly, like
it is
incomprehensible for me to believe that someone who wants to be vice president of the United States could possibly think that was a good story to put in a book.
Yeah.
It's, it shows your job.
Like your job as a vice presidential candidate for someone like Donald Trump.
There are two profiles for this person, Pat.
One is attack dog,
Vivek Ramaswamy, J.D.
Vance, right?
Someone who's going to go on TV and absolutely light into liberal media on behalf of Donald Trump and just go
balls to the wall, right?
That's not the Christy Noam profile.
The Christy Noome profile, she fits into the other group, which is like a do-no-harm person, person who can be solid on policy, who can, Mike Pencil's like this, you know, he can talk about these things calmly, maybe put a, you know, Donald Trump comes out, tweets and all caps.
He comes out with the calm lowercase version of that argument yeah and is able to kind of you know bridge that gap from you know donald trump's personality to the more standard politician and that's that would be gnome's approach here
your job in that role is to do no harm if you can't see that executing your dog and telling the story about how, I mean, like adding the detail about how your, your kid was disappointed and asking him where the dog was.
I mean, I just like, it's incomprehensible.
If you, even if that is how farm life is, and I admit I don't know how farm life is, if that is how farm life is, you need to understand that your life on the farm does not relate to 85, 90% of the rest of the population, which is your job as vice president.
I would maintain that scant few farmers ever take their dogs out and shoot them in the head.
Yeah, in a gravel pit.
Or anywhere for that matter.
So you think it's lower than 10% of the population?
Yeah, I would.
I was being generous on that one, Pat.
I mean, because
even as a farmer, you understand, nobody shoots their dog.
Nobody does that.
It's just not a thing.
Not in America.
It's not a thing.
It's not a part of American culture.
We're dog lovers here.
You know, I mean, not everybody is.
Donald Trump doesn't seem to like dogs all that much.
You know, he doesn't seem to be a pro-dog guy.
At one point, they were like,
I think it was CNN or MSNBC.
They were like, what if she put this in the clip in the book because she wanted to appeal to Donald Trump, who doesn't like dogs?
It's like, okay, shut up, you morons.
I mean, but Trump doesn't have a dog.
He doesn't seem to be like your classic dog lover.
There are people like that, but there are very few people who are like, hey, what if we bring him out to the gravel trip, the gravel pit, and execute the dog in front of a construction worker or two, and then bring a goat out for good measure?
Like, again, I understand there are different cultures, different things happen.
Not everyone's brought up the same way, but you have to know when you're in that position.
Like that is part of the awareness of a politician.
You have to know, gosh, you know,
like remember the clip of Sarah Palin when she was doing an interview and they were, they were like chopping off the heads of chickens behind her.
Do you remember this clip from the 2000, God, what year was that now?
2008 presidential campaign?
She's doing an interview.
This had nothing to do with her.
She's just at like a farm type area and they're doing the things they do on farms.
Like they're executing, I think it was chickens in the background.
And, like, she didn't know the shot was set up this way.
She's doing a normal interview.
And it's just like the optics of that are not something that you want.
Right.
Right.
You have to really, we all understand what happens to chickens.
Okay.
We all get it.
That doesn't mean we want to walk into the grocery store and see the guy doing it.
Right.
This is just like a fundamental disconnect.
And then you go to the point of dogs are not thought of like chickens are.
That is not.
Right.
I mean, think of Charlotte's Web.
This is a story that every kid watched.
And, you know, I love the, I freaking love Charlotte's Web when I was a kid.
But like, you feel bad for the pig.
When the pig has a personality, you feel bad for it.
And to
American human beings, in almost all circumstances, dogs have personalities.
Right?
They are loved members of the family.
Now, look, if your dog is going out and attacking people, people, a lot of people go through this, right?
If your dog escapes and gets
went through it.
Yep.
How many times did he bite Secret Service?
Yeah, 28.
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah.
So usually what happens in those situations, you're bringing it to the Humane Society or something, and someone, and sometimes those dogs are put down, but they're not put down in a gravel pit behind your house.
Like, that's just not how that works.
So it's the awareness of that.
And then
her efforts on TV to talk about this have been embarrassing.
Embarrassing.
Unlike cricket, Donald Trump very well may have dodged a bullet here.
And I think that there is
a situation where she gets this gig because on paper, she really, and look, she's been a good governor, generally speaking, I think, of her state.
She did a great job during COVID.
She's good on things like energy.
There is a profile there where she could have been.
I think she was in the conversation.
Would she have gotten it?
I don't think, I mean, you know, it's hard to say.
I don't think so, probably.
I wouldn't say her chances were above, let's say, 20%,
but they've gone from 20 to zero.
Yeah.
And so
thinking about this, Pat, I was thinking about what are the types of things Donald Trump is looking for in a vice presidential candidate?
I'm trying to think, get inside his head a little bit.
What are the traits he wants out of a VP?
Loyalty.
So let me, that's the first one I had.
Loyalty was the first one on the list that I came up with.
Loyalty number one.
And loyalty is something specific, right?
It's something that that every VP needs.
You know, you need to have the ability.
We need it in bigger proportion
if it's Donald Trump.
Yep.
He prizes it more.
More than almost anything else, I think.
Like when you have, you know, I don't know, Donald Trump says something and it makes you squirm.
You know, inside you, as a VP, you feel like, gosh, like,
I love these policies.
I love Don, but like, this, I don't agree with this.
You have to be able to fight through that and say the thing that Trump wants you to say anyway.
And that is loyalty that he wants.
Look, at some level, we saw it with Palin and McCain back in 2008.
She's like, well, global warming maybe isn't that crazy of a policy to pursue.
Like, you have to do these things at some level.
Every VP does, but I think you're right.
Trump prioritizes it more.
A subset of that of loyalty.
I think this is the number one thing.
I think this is the litmus test for Donald Trump.
Put yourself in Donald Trump's mind for a second.
He's picked a vice president once, okay?
That person was Mike Pence.
When he looks back at the vice presidency of Mike Pence, he doesn't look at what we just talked about.
The many, many, many times Mike Pence went on television and defended policies and statements he didn't agree with.
He was very loyal as a vice president for the entire time, up until what day, right?
January 6th, right?
Yep.
When he had this moment on January 6th, where he wanted him not to affirm these election results, and he did it anyway, that is the central moment he thinks about when he he thinks about picking a VP.
I believe he has a litmus test of sorts.
He at least has to believe that person would have acted differently on January 6th.
I think he, Donald Trump, when he's making this decision,
if he sees it, I don't think he's going to see the exact same situation.
Obviously, he, you know, in theory is constitutionally limited from running for a third term.
This exact situation can't pop up again unless something massive changes.
But
I will say, say, if there is another similar moment where, you know, a guy, you know, you have a question on the Constitution that Donald Trump takes one way and everyone else kind of seems to take it another way,
he better believe that you're going to take it his way.
I think going into this, that's a really important thing to Donald Trump.
You may disagree with it.
You may agree with it.
It doesn't matter what you think about the 2020 election.
It matters about what you think.
If you're Donald Trump, he wants that person to be on his side in that moment.
And so anyone who you think, like, like I thought, I brought up the example of a guy like
Mike Lee or Ted Cruz, right?
Mike Lee and Ted Cruz, neither one of them is going to be the VP pick.
I don't think either one of them are interested in it.
But these are two people that are really super dedicated to the Constitution and how they see the Constitution.
And if Donald Trump in a moment, because he believes it's important to him or he believes he's got it right on the Constitution, disagrees with Mike Lee, Mike Lee's just going to say, this is what the Constitution says.
I'm not going that way.
So I don't think there'd be any chance a person like that would be picked.
Because Trump, I think, centrally sees this in a way where he doesn't want to get, in his mind, burned by that again.
You could disagree with that?
No, I agree with that.
Okay.
Yep.
Third trait for VP, central casting.
Donald Trump likes the central casting stuff.
He likes the person who looks the role.
That doesn't necessarily mean hot, right?
Like I'm not saying you have to be beautiful or sexy or
you need to have abs for this role, but you got to kind of have the you got to have the look for the role for donald trump and i don't know this isn't the most important characteristic but it's part of the reason why i think he picked a lot of generals at the beginning of his term like it was that kind of had that vibe right the vibe you want it's always been optics are important to a person who's been on television his entire life yeah right he knows look who he surrounds himself with
uh he's
every time yeah every time they're a person that looks the role yeah and like mike pence looked the role yeah and mike pence looked like a vp yeah right um you know we talked about christy Noam.
She fit into this category.
Yes.
You know, people throw out Nancy Mason's apartment right now.
Yeah,
lawyer fits the role.
You know, I think maybe J.D.
Vance fits the role.
Like a guy who
looks like a vice president kind of could be the person who goes, he's good on television, that type of person.
Next up, subservience.
To him.
Yeah, to him.
You have to fold to what he wants.
And like that,
it kind of similar to loyalty, but a little bit different.
You know, where loyalty is like, okay, in a tough moment, I I need you to be there for me, right?
Subservience is more like, look, I want tariffs.
I know you don't.
You're going to like tariffs.
You're going to like tariffs for four years.
Yeah.
Deal with it.
And every VP has to have that.
Every VP has to have an element of that.
If you have some VP who's loudmouth, like, you know, one of us, going out there and arguing for their own beliefs every time, the whole administration falls apart.
You have, subservience sounds like a bad word, but you have to have it in a VP.
And you probably need it more than ever with Donald Trump because look, it's who the guy is.
He wants it a certain way and you better freaking go along with it.
So I think that's important.
Fundraising.
Someone who can go to the meetings with 14 millionaires to raise money when Donald Trump's in front of 25,000 regular people.
You need the person who's going to go out on the campaign trail and do all that crap that Donald Trump doesn't have to do it.
You have to be able to raise cash.
Like Tim, this is a great argument for Tim Scott.
Tim Scott's really good at this.
Tim Scott can raise money.
You know, Doug Bergham and Bergamentum is one of the people in this conversation, oddly.
We'll get into the odds here in a second, but Bergham has a lot of money.
He's very wealthy.
He has a lot of big business contacts.
He can probably raise a decent amount of money in this spot.
He wants someone who's not going to flake out on that role.
It's an important role.
Doesn't help him electorally, you know, necessarily with numbers.
Right.
But except for the numbers that he could raise
in funding.
Let me give you a couple of other basic ones.
Good with the media.
You know, J.D.
Vance is generally speaking is going to be good with the media.
You know, Christy Nomes showed weakness there.
And that's the type of thing that she would be at issue.
Addresses a specific group.
You know, like, you know, maybe this is the identity politics argument.
Do you want a Marco Rubio who's going to maybe address a different group than a J.D.
Vance, right?
Or Tim Scott.
Or Tim Scott that's going to address that.
I have one more here for you.
We'll take a 60-second break and come back with it.
Because this one's a little on the controversial side.
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Pat and Stu, going over some of the attributes you think that Donald Trump is looking for in a vice president.
Yeah, here's my last one.
A bit controversial, maybe on the right.
We just talked about abortion.
You know how Pat and I feel about this issue.
I think it's vitally important.
So let's take that out of the equation for a second.
I think Donald Trump, who also believes this is an important issue and is largely responsible for the overturning of Roe versus Wade, something he does not run away from.
I do think that he looks pragmatically at this election and feels like someone who is too strong and outspoken on abortion would be a weakness.
I don't necessarily agree with him on that analysis.
He is kind of on record on it, right?
Like he said, Ron DeSantis and a six-week ban, which by the way, just so you understand this, a six-week ban still allows for
40% of abortions.
40% of abortions happen before six weeks.
So a six-week ban.
still allows for 40%.
I just talked about a million children not being alive.
400,000 still go away with a six-week ban.
Donald Trump has said that it's too harsh.
His calculus there, I don't think, is because he has a lust for babies not being alive.
I think his calculation there is he believes it's not where the American people are.
And he believes it's going to hurt him in swing states.
And look, if he's not elected, we can all agree that abortion policy will largely get worse.
So there is a pragmatic argument for this.
It's again, it's not the way I think about this issue, but there is a pragmatic argument about this.
And I think someone in the Mike Pence mold who is very hard on this particular issue and unwavering on this issue does not feel to me to be the direction that Donald Trump wants to go this time.
I think he's looking for someone who can walk that line of, look, Overturing Roe versus Wade was good.
Everyone agreed on that, which, of course, is not even close to accurate, but I love the analysis and they all should have agreed on it.
Everyone agrees on that, but we need to, you know, this needs to be left up to the states.
Let's not make this the central election issue because the Democrats are going to try to make it the central election issue.
So there's definitely a pragmatic electoral argument for this to be made.
We've seen, even in places like Kansas, we've seen ballot initiatives fail on the pro-life side.
So
I understand that argument, but like it means, it seems to me that it would
work out the Mike Pence profile.
That person who is going to be a more religious conservative, kind of out front, you know, you know, this to me, maybe is,
I don't, I don't, you know, like Elise Stefanik comes to mind.
Nancy Mace comes to mind as someone who maybe isn't so outspoken about that issue and isn't essential to who they are.
Someone who might be able to kind of get more comfortable with looser
restrict, you know, looser restrictions on abortion and more understanding, you know, verbiage.
Again, I know how you feel on this, Pat.
You know how I feel on this.
Like, that's not where I am.
But I do think that's probably part of this calculus here.
Yeah, I think so too.
I think he's made that fairly clear.
So, we'll see.
You have the handicap of each of them, right?
You want to do this?
What are the odds?
We'll get to that.
What are the odds for these vice presidential candidates?
That's coming up with Pat and Stew for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.
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All right, we're going to get into the odds of vice presidential potentials for Donald Trump coming up in a second.
First, let's go to Chris in South Dakota, taking exception perhaps with what we're talking about with Christy Noam.
Hey, Chris.
Hey, guys.
How's it going?
Good, man.
How are you?
Good.
Yeah, I just want to say, yeah, I've been a sick-twoisted freak for a long time.
And don't hang up on me, but I even like Jeffy.
Oh, well, we are going to hang up on you.
Wow.
But I went too far.
I just went too far.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
But yeah, I just want to say, you know, out here in South Dakota, a lot of people that I talk to don't really care.
I grew up on a pig farm, and you don't like having to euthanize animals, but it's just something that you do.
You have to wait against everything else that's going on.
And yeah, I personally don't think it's that big of a deal.
Really?
First of all, typical Jeffy supporter here.
Do you find a line between like you know pigs and dogs?
Chris?
Yeah, but it depends on what they're for.
Like if it's a working dog, like if it comes to a point where you need to euthanize them, you need to make that distinction.
And like I said, you don't like doing it, but it has to be done sometimes.
Yeah.
What about the judgment involved here and writing it about it in a book?
What about that?
That I would not.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you.
You know the American people are not going to take to that.
I don't care.
If you live on a farm or you don't.
I grew up in Montana, which is pretty rural yeah at the time there was you know 800 000 people in the whole stinking state uh there's more than that in probably my suburbs so uh i i understand that the rural mindset is different and that when you're on a farm things are different but i've been on a lot of farms where people don't shoot their dogs um you know and they they give them to other people or you take them to the humane society and they they're euthanized there but you're not shooting them in the head yeah you know and then to think okay you know what people are gonna love is my story about taking my dog to the gravel pit and shooting it in the head legitimately bragging about it, right?
And like, you know, again, like I she was talked out of it apparently in her last book.
Yeah, and she felt so strongly about telling the story that she decided, yeah, no, I'm gonna do it this time.
And nobody could talk her out of it.
And that was her point, right?
I make tough decisions.
And I think
this is part of Chris's point as well, where like, you know, no one wants to do that, right?
No one, no one wants to be involved in it.
And farm life is different, and we allow for that completely.
I will say, though, that like the little girl didn't come back and ask about the goat.
Right.
You know, the daughter didn't come back and say, hey, where's the dog?
Because
you could say it's a working dog, but the kid didn't come back and ask about the goat.
There's a line there.
And the central line here, which Chris also brought up, is the judgment.
You are not running for vice president of a farm.
You are running for vice president of the United States.
By the way, I'm the ticket with a man who's lived in Manhattan his whole life.
You think that's going to like, it's not going to relate to him either.
I just think that you have to have awareness of how this goes.
And it's why I think her odds are dropping very, very quickly.
Yeah.
Now, she is on this list still.
Although, to me, I don't think she's on the list anymore.
I don't think she's.
I think she's.
Was this prior to this controversy?
I think it was after.
So she did drop on this.
She would have been higher, I think.
This is from betonline.com.
Okay.
By the way.
So, what betonline.com has right now as the favorites for VP choice for Donald Trump, co-favorites at four to one odds, Doug Bergham
and Tim Scott.
Now, he is tied for favorites.
It's incredible.
Bergham?
Bergamentum.
In action, Pat.
Don't understand that.
How many times did I tell you, Pat, you're going to see Doug Bergham on this ticket?
I told you over and over again.
Bergamentum is here.
Bergamania is on the way.
I guess I've forgotten most of the times when you've mentioned that.
Mainly, I just like to say Bergamentum a lot.
So people, it's funny how many people have come back to me every time there's a report about Doug Bergum potentially being the pick.
You called this.
Now, I did not.
I would like to take credit for it.
I did not call it.
It was more of just mockery about no one knowing who this guy was.
Now, look, Doug Bergum has a pretty good record as a governor of North Dakota.
He was
a pretty good, certainly economically.
And as far as we know, he never shot his his dog in North Dakota.
As far as we know, he hasn't bragged about it.
At least he didn't put it in a book.
At least he didn't put it in a book.
But like, I just don't,
I don't see it.
Do you see it?
He screams to be Secretary of Agriculture or something.
Yes.
Like Secretary, maybe Energy, if you want to give him a high-profile gig.
Like, he has been loyal to Donald Trump going through these traits.
You know, he,
you know,
he can fundraise, certainly, and has a lot of money of his own that he could spend potentially on a campaign.
Yeah.
There's some factors where you'd see he's good.
He's not very well known.
He's never been tested in any way like this, but he is very unremarkable.
He's not going to stand out.
He's not going to try to outshine Donald Trump.
He's not from a populist state that could help Trump.
No, he doesn't have that going on.
He has electoral votes.
Nothing.
I mean, he brings nothing except, well, it's fundraising.
Other than that, he brings nothing to the table.
And I would like to pick up
that you're going to pick somebody who brings something to the ticket, you know?
Yeah.
Electorally.
That can be important.
Yeah.
Now, I think Doug Bergham could do the job.
And obviously that was left off of my list of traits.
Everyone would have to be capable of doing the job.
God forbid they had to take it.
But Bergham, it just doesn't strike me.
It seems a really boring vanilla choice from Donald Trump.
Now, he did do that with pence.
So, I mean, maybe.
It seems like a less than vanilla.
It's almost like a broccoli choice.
I mean, it might be good for us, but I don't want to eat it.
And no salt.
It's steamed.
This isn't like broccoli, like where they've deep-fried it and you can dip it in honey mustard
or something, or you pour cheese all over it because it's Thanksgiving.
No.
And look, no one is not going to vote for Donald Trump because he picks Doug Bergham, but he brings nobody new to the table.
Right.
Other than maybe some Bergham family members.
He's tied for favorite.
Yeah.
With Tim Scott.
Now, Tim Scott brings some things to the table.
Yeah, Tim Scott, like, again, I've been unimpressed by Tim Scott's campaign abilities.
And I like Tim Scott.
We've had him on the show a bunch of times.
He just, he has not,
he comes off as kind of weird and inauthentic at times to me.
And I don't know what that is.
That's kind of,
I can't put that on paper.
It's a good way to put it, though.
It feels like he's
accurate.
And he was, you know, he tried to come on and say basically, talking about like how the, you know, would he accept election results this weekend?
Again, this is the type of thing that Trump wants you to come out and say, like, no, I'm not going to do it if they're not real or, you know, if there's some fraudulent, he wants you to, he doesn't want you to say, of course, I'll elect it or accept it no matter what happens.
Trump probably doesn't want that.
But
you could see Tim Scott trying to talk himself into it in the moment.
He just, I don't know.
Now, he's a really good fundraiser.
Obviously, the potential of maybe some gains in the African-American vote is something if you care about identity politics, it might be a problem.
But apparently, according to the last poll I saw, Trump's already up to 18%
black support.
Yeah, from 18% 92%
to 18%.
So he's doubled.
This might be something to try to double down on and then expand that a little bit so that he's up there as well.
I think he's legitimately in the conversation.
I don't believe the Bergham stuff.
It has been reported, and Trump seems to really like him.
But I just don't buy that's where he would go.
That's just a total guess on my part.
Third in the line here is J.D.
Vance at 5-1.
Vance, to me, strikes me as a very good vice presidential candidate for Donald Trump.
Ohio if he doesn't care about identity politics.
If he doesn't mind putting another white dude on the ticket, Vance fits pretty much every one of my
traits that I listed in the front half hour.
I think he hits pretty much every single one of them, with the exception of he doesn't address a specific group per se.
But I will put an asterisk next to that one.
He's not an identity politics winner if you care about that, which we are, of course, are all told that Donald Trump doesn't, right?
Like, he's never shown any real signs of being an identity politics guy.
Yet everyone tells me all the time he's going to pick a woman or a person of color.
I hear that all the time.
And it's like, well, I don't know.
Trump has never really shown that he cares about that stuff.
He doesn't.
He didn't last time.
Right.
He didn't last time.
He seems to be a guy.
He doesn't.
He's trying to pick on what he believes merit-based is the best candidate.
But anyway,
you could look at...
Vance and say, hey, this guy does not appeal to a specific demographic group.
And I think you can make that argument.
The other thing, though, I would say is that the Midwestern thing is, in a way a demographic.
And it's a vital one.
The three most important states, if you had to rank them right now in no specific order, would be Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.
If he can win, if you take the polls the way they are right now,
those three states are the only toss-up states, pure toss-ups.
Donald Trump would need to win one of them to win the presidency.
If you took the polls as they are right the second.
Now,
Vance is from Ohio, but
he's in that region, obviously.
He's bordering,
you know,
he's in this area, right?
Like, he's got that down.
But also, he, I think,
hits that sort of blue-collar mentality of the region well.
He speaks the language of manufacturing leaving the country.
He knows that stuff really well.
He's good on television.
He is more of the attack dog vibe, which is totally different than Mike Pence.
But if Trump thinks that's what he needs here, to me, Vance, it might be the best pick.
If you take out identity politics completely, Vance seems to be the thing that would fit Donald Trump the best and also would give some sort of ideological legacy to Trumpism as a movement, if you will.
I mean, you know, Vance is probably the most outward
person vocalizing Trump's ideological platform on a wide scale.
So I think that's an interesting one.
We're at five to one.
Then next up was Marco Rubio at eight to one.
And Rubio does some of these things well.
He can fundraise.
He has a potential
minority group,
I don't know, identity politics categories that you might like to check off.
There are some real disagreements there.
I mean, Rubio is much more of a person who would favor funding for Ukraine, right?
Like he is active when it comes to the world stage in a way that I don't think Donald Trump is.
Also, obviously, he had major disagreements with Trump.
That's not always a negative.
Sometimes Trump likes it when people who haven't liked him have been won over.
So maybe that's okay.
They have healed that relationship, I think.
They're deliberately well now with Ted Cruz.
Yep, with Cruz as well.
So I don't know.
Rubio is, I think, a possibility.
It has been reported that he's on the short list.
Take that for what it's worth.
I mean, that may have been reported by people closely associated with Marco Rubio.
We don't know.
Two guys from Florida, though, that might be a negative.
That is a big one.
You'd have to, almost definitely you'd have to donald trump would theoretically have to move and and again move in quotes right he already has places in new york and all over the country but it is a weird sort of thing that trump would move for his vp that that doesn't seem very donald trumpish to me no it doesn't uh so i will put an asterisk next to that one then that applies to desantis as well who i don't think he's on this list at 33 to one but i don't think that's there's any chance and i don't think desantis wants it uh let me give you one more here if we have time before break uh tulsi gabbard is at nine to one
Okay.
An interesting one.
What's interesting about Gabbard, and again, I will be honest with you, I really like Tulsi Gabbard.
I like when she comes on the show.
She's smart.
She does a lot of things.
I don't want her to be vice president of the United States.
This is a person who was running a campaign for Bernie Sanders a
few years ago.
Yeah.
This is like her under, she is not, she will tell you she's not a conservative.
And I, you know, look, Donald Trump's in his 70s, man.
You know, I, I, I, is he in much better health than Joe Biden?
Sure, But like anything can happen.
And I do not want a person who's believed the right person to lead the country was Bernie Sanders this in the past decade to be president of the United States
terrifies me.
Yeah, me too.
But she does check a lot of these boxes.
Yeah.
You know, she is she, and particularly on the abortion stuff, she, she's not hardcore pro-lifer.
She would be able to speak that language.
If she's pro-life at all.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't think she is.
She also could potentially be able to soften some of the things that Donald Trump comes off harshly.
Look, one of his weaknesses was suburban women.
Could Tulsi Gabbard speak to that crowd a little bit?
And she might appeal to independents.
And independents in a big way.
And that's like a lot of RFK Jr.
is on this list as well.
There's no chance of that happening.
He's actually currently running for president against Donald Trump.
However, he's at 33 to 1.
There was talk at one point of RFK Jr.
being in that conversation.
The same type of talk, right?
Bring over those independents in theory.
There's a couple more on the list we'll get to in a second.
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Let me give you a few more on this list here, Pat.
VP possibilities and the odds.
I think this is one I would drop a few dollars.
Elise Stefanik.
She's in house leadership, not super well known, but has done a great job on these campus protests.
She's been fantastic on this since October 7th.
She has some profile, has some of the check boxes here that you might say.
Christy Noom, as I mentioned,
what's her odds?
12 to 1, sorry.
12 to 1.
Christy Noam is at 33 to 1.
A couple others to mention.
I think it's longer odds than that.
I think it's like 10 million to one.
Yeah, I think it's zero.
There's just not, it's not happening.
Nikki Haley is at 40 to 1.
Again, not happening.
She's taken a different path, I think, quite clearly.
Vivek Ramaswamy is 33 to 1.
He's already ruled him out.
I don't know why he'd be on this list.
Let me give you a long shot that I think is interesting.
And I have to, Felix from Connecticut is on the line with this exact idea, but we don't have time to get to him right now.
Is Sarah Huckabee Sanders?
An interesting woman.
She's a governor of a state.
She obviously has shown loyalty to Trump.
There was some rumor that she did not endorse Trump in the primary quickly enough for Donald Trump.
He was kind of annoyed she didn't immediately come out in that realm.
We'll see if that is a factor.
But I mean, she's kind of, she checks off some of these boxes as well.
They do have people like Tucker Carlson listed.
What are her odds?
Oh, she's 40 to 1.
Okay.
And then Tucker Carlson, 50 to 1.
Byron Donalds is also 50 to 1.
He's not going to choose Tucker Carlson.
Also, Tucker, I don't think, would do it.
No.
It doesn't seem to be much of a sense.
And then Field is 8 to 1.
So any other person.
If I'm sprinkling some cash in here, Pat, here's where I'm sprinkling.
I'm sprinkling someone on JD Vance at 5 to 1, sprinkling someone on Elise Stefanik at 12 to 1.
A little bit on Sarah Huckabee Sanders at 40 to 1.
And then I would put an interesting choice right there.
And I'd put someone on the field at 8 to 1.
I mentioned Nancy Mace as a possibility.
There's a few that aren't on this list that you could see potentially rising to the top.
And there could very well be someone we haven't talked about, really.
I mean, Donald Trump owes the media nothing when it comes to leaking these people.
Occasionally, he does do that, but it's very possible that this person isn't centrally on our radar at this point.
Yep.
We'll see.
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We were just talking about vice presidential odds, the odds of Donald Trump picking certain potential candidates.
One of those candidates who's probably not a candidate because he seems to be running for president himself is RFK Jr.,
whom you're a really big fan of.
I know you like RFK Jr.
an awful lot.
I used to.
I mean, I think if you've listened to the show, you know I'm a fan of almost everybody who tries to
have Glenn executed at the hands of the state.
That's just, you know, it's one of my policies.
Yeah, but he's sworn that policy offers.
Oh, I know.
I mean, all the way back to the 2020s.
Do you remember what you were like in the 2020s?
I don't, because I was only like four years old at the time.
I was four.
A lot of people don't have a lot of memories from that era of the 2020s when he said he changed his mind on that.
Because he was still doing, he was still advocating for these policies of either, I mean, again, to be fair on this, he only said that Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh should be treated like traitors.
So I'm jumping to the conclusion that is in the Constitution of the United States that death is the penalty for that.
So that is a big leap for me.
I believe the only crime that specified a penalty in the U.S.
Constitution.
And when you do it over and over and over and over again, by the way, he did it in front of hundreds of thousands of people, I should point out.
It wasn't just like a thing he said offhandedly to his wife.
Which one would it be when you're talking about his wives?
But he is a wonderful character that should always be trusted.
And this is one of the things that happens, I think, in our society often.
People stick around in your public life for a long enough period of time.
Occasionally, they agree with you on particular issues.
I mean, there's many.
There are certain things that RFK Jr.
is saying today,
today,
that I agree with.
Yes.
There's a few things.
He's quite good on Bitcoin, for example.
He seems to be one of the...
He seems to be pretty good on the border lately.
Vaccine mandates.
Vaccine?
The border one.
I'm sorry.
I just
love it at all.
You don't buy.
But I do believe, I certainly believe he really, like the vaccine mandates thing is.
Oh, yeah.
And he goes farther than I do on that, as you know.
Yeah.
But he is a, he's rock solid on that.
He's been that way for a very long time.
There are certain things he's.
Because he just doesn't like vaccines.
Yeah.
He would not not call himself anti-vaccine.
Which is amazing to me.
Come on.
Of course he's anti-vaccine.
It's okay.
It's fine.
Whatever you think.
Just say what you believe.
I don't know why.
I don't know why.
I don't know why that's a thing.
Because is there anybody more outspoken against vaccines than RFK Jr.?
I don't think so.
Very central to his persona.
Now, I think his kids have been vaccinated, and
he'll give you reasons why he's not.
I think that word just has a negative connotation to it.
So people don't want to say it.
But I mean, look, it's quite clear that this has been central to him.
And because it was central to him before COVID, it was easy for him to come out on the right side when it comes to mandates.
He was right on that from the beginning, and I give him credit for that.
There's other things he's right on.
He's also wrong on almost everything.
I mean, he is.
I mean, from abortion to abortion to global warming is by far the worst to me
when it comes to his views, affirmative action.
I mean, he is,
I mean, this is a man who heaped praise on Hugo Chavez.
Jeez.
I forgot about that.
Just shoveled it on.
And this says nothing to do with his personal life, which is a catastrophe from beginning to end.
Yes, he had a traumatic childhood for sure, but I'm talking about the way he's treated women in his life, which
people like, oh, Stormy Daniel.
Donald Trump is a saint.
A literal marriage.
He should run a marriage conference compared to RFK Jr.
I don't even want to go down the road.
I'll stop before I go too far.
My point, though, is that, gosh, it often seems that RFK Jr.
says the thing that benefits him at the time.
Right now, he's trying to run as an independent, and he's trying to get people who are voting for Donald Trump to come over and vote for him.
So he accentuates his newfound border expertise, his, his, you know, hey, I swear I'm no longer going to execute the hosts you listen to every day.
I promise.
These policies that are just so newly found
are now at the front, the forefront of everything that he says because he's trying to win voters away from Donald Trump.
That's what he cares about today.
What does he care about when he's president?
Not that.
What he cares about when he's president is putting people who disagree with his global warming nonsense behind bars, if not worse.
And God only knows what else he does.
So I have
no warm feelings towards this person.
Glenn, look, Glenn is.
He seemed to like his interview.
He did.
To be fair, he came in after being drugged.
Glenn did?
He was drugged?
He had come out of a doctor's appointment.
And
I said, I'm like, I just don't think this is the moment for Glenn.
Because, you know,
he came out after, I'm joking about him being drugged, but he did come out after a doctor's point.
I don't think he was at his, as he said, he's like, I don't think I was at my best.
And like,
there's two ways to go with an RFK Jr.
conversation.
And I think
Glenn has had conversations with RFK where he's held every one of his horrible viewpoints to task.
They'd already done that.
So there was more of a reason to just explore the things that maybe they agree on and other reasons.
And I think there's no problem with that conversation at all.
Whatever.
No issues with that.
But I do think at this point, it is important for conservatives to understand who this guy is and who he has been forever.
Yeah.
I mean,
yes, it is.
It is important because there's too many Republicans saying, you know, who's pretty good that I might vote for RFK.
No, no, he's bad on almost everything you believe in.
There's a few issues that you might come close together on, but mostly
he is a flaming progressive, flaming liberal, and he has been his whole life.
Has he changed a little bit on a few issues?
I guess.
But
even on those issues,
some of us are a little bit skeptical, it seems.
And one of those people, it might be Stu Bergere, who's just a bit skeptical that he's changed on any of these things.
Yeah, some of them, maybe he has changed.
Look, I mean, I think it would be difficult to be a person like RFK.
Jr., who goes, spends his whole life dedicated to something like, you know, warning people about vaccines.
Yeah.
and then see what happened during COVID and not have that change you in some way.
I mean, you have to be soulless, which, by the way, RFK Jr.
might very well be.
However, if he's not soulless, there's a chance, an outside chance, that maybe this did wake him up to the problems with centralized power.
I mean, he was a victim of this censorship that he himself advocated for decades, but he was a victim of it.
And sometimes when you argue for something and then you become a victim of your own policy,
it does change you a little bit.
It's been a amazing to see some of these people change over the last few years because there have been a number of examples.
And RFK Jr.
is just one.
How about how Chris Cuomo has supposedly changed over the last few years?
That one's fascinating.
I mean, okay, he was on CNN, now he's not.
And it seems like when people leave CNN, some of that programming
seems to dissipate a bit, doesn't it?
Somehow we were able to do shows over at CNN headline news, at least, and not have the issue of running away from all of our principles.
I don't know.
No one else seems to be able to do that.
But just to give you an example of how much this guy has changed, here's Chris Cuomo.
Four years ago, talking to Don Lemon during that crossover talk they do between the shows.
Check this out.
This is Cut 18.
People who are injecting drugs for animals and horse.
And people telling them to.
Oh, my God.
What person,
you know, you talk about like your cancel culture and who to shame.
Ivermectin?
A dewormer?
Really?
They are shaming themselves.
No one has to shame them.
They're shaming themselves.
No, they need to be shamed.
They need to be called out and shamed, brother.
I love it.
Oh, my God.
I haven't heard that clip in a while.
What person
would suggest that you take Ivermectin?
What kind of mora?
A dewormer?
We need to shame these people for horses.
You're taking horse paste?
Here's Chris Cuomo
today.
I'll tell you something else that's going to get you
a lot of hits.
I am taking a,
what do they call it?
Like a regular dose, you know, whatever.
They're trying to build up of ivermectin.
Ivermectin was a boogeyman early on in COVID.
He should be shamed.
That was wrong.
We were given bad information about Ivermectin.
We were too.
The real question is why?
We were too.
Everyone's going to say Joe Rogan was right.
No, Joe Rogan was saying, yeah, he was right.
But that's not what matters.
What matters is the entire clinical community knew that Ivermectin couldn't hurt you.
They knew it, Patrick.
I know they knew it.
How do I know?
Because now I'm doing nothing but talking to these clinicians who at the time were overwhelmed by COVID and they weren't saying anything.
Not that they were hiding anything,
but it's cheap.
It's not owned by anybody, and it's used as an antimicrobial, antiviral, and all of these different ways.
It has been for a long time for malaria.
It's been a lot of people for over almost 20 years.
Yeah, so, and my doctor, who is now my doctor, was using it during COVID on her family and on patients.
No.
And it was working.
Personally,
you were wrong to play scared on.
You were wrong.
Not he.
Didn't know that.
Not the guy on CNN.
We could stop there.
The most trusted name in news who went out and said that you should be shamed for considering taking it.
Right.
They were wrong.
They were wrong.
They were telling us.
Oh, what?
Yeah, they were telling us that, too, and we didn't go along with it because some of us were using our own noodles.
Why is it that he couldn't?
What a dirtbag.
Oh, my God.
And I honestly have
to say that.
This is not a commercial for ivermectin.
No.
If you think it's the right thing for you to do, take it.
If you don't, don't.
It came from a big pharmaceutical company, too.
So get, it doesn't, none of this matters.
Like, it has nothing to do with ivermectin.
It has to do with Chris Cuomo being a horrible human being in every aspect of his life.
Look at this.
Listen to this guy.
And what, what bothers me about this is the other thing that came out about Chris Cuomo is now he's claiming to be vaccine injured.
Now, yes, that's amazing.
Now, there are amazing.
There are absolutely people who are vaccine injured.
Okay, this is a real group of people.
Those people should have their claims heard.
Okay?
There is zero reason to believe Chris Cuomo is one of these people.
Zero reason.
Why?
Chris Cuomo is allergic to telling the truth.
Everything he says is something built on what he believes will benefit him at that moment.
Here he is on CNN saying, you should be publicly shamed for taking Iver Mecton.
Because at that moment that he's talking with Don Lemon in his calculus, it benefits him to say that thing at that time.
Now he's on, was it Patrick Bet David, I believe,
a more right-leaning podcaster?
Yeah.
Now he's invisible.
No one talks about him anymore.
He's on a right-leaning con, just like RFK Jr.
goes on these right-leaning podcasts and all of a sudden he's friendly to all their viewpoints.
Now he gets to say this:
it is,
remember,
this man not only lied
about
being in quarantine because he was actually out of it fighting with people on bicycles, but then he also lied about coming out of quarantine live on the air.
Oh, that's right.
He lies about
everything
all the time.
This is a guy who is helping Andrew Cuomo
write
his get out of jail speeches while he's on CNN,
helping him massage the women his brother was touching.
Okay.
And if people don't remember going back before he was Mr.
Vaccine proponent and Mr.
Ivermectin Shamer on CNN, before that,
His wife ran a magazine called Purist.
This is like, you know, Gwynneth Paltrow's goop, if you want less peasants around you, because it was like Hampton's goop.
Okay.
And it was,
he himself and his wife was talking about how they were treating these things with like broths.
They were brewing up in treating his COVID with broths they brew up in their kitchen with a woman who was his doctor, who was not licensed in the state they lived in, who was the founder of the Light Harmonics Institute,
who was telling them about magnetic vibes and how that can cure your illnesses.
Because at that time, around his Hamptons friends, that benefited him.
And then he was on CNN, and at that time, saying the vaccine was wonderful and should be required, and Ivermectin was evil, that benefited him.
And you were evil if you didn't get the vaccine because you were harming others.
Right.
And now, at the time, he's on a conservative podcast and he's invisible and needs to make news at that time he's vaccine injured and on ivermectin
it's not that vaccine injury isn't real it is it's not that ivermectin might not happen who knows what happened we know you can go through all this stuff the bottom line is there is no reason to believe chris cuomo about anything he says anything Nobel Prize winning medicine by the way in 2015.
Yeah.
Right?
Which Nobel Prize winning wins.
Everyone knew at the time, which we said on the air a thousand times over.
And Chris Cuomo, because it benefited him at that moment, went on the air and denied it on CNN.
Triple 8727 back.
More coming up.
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He sucks.
Did I make that clear?
No, I wasn't getting that.
Really?
All right.
No, Chris Cuomo?
Chris Cuomo.
All right.
All right.
Let me.
Chris Cuu.
By the way, ChrisCuomoisworse.com.
AndrewCuomoasAwful.com.
There you go.
Wait, which one is worse?
Chris Andrew Cuomo.
Andrew Cuomo was awful.com.
Chris Cuomo.
Chris was worse.com.
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Okay.
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You know, a lot of times you feel like it's going to get worse before it gets better.
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I don't like him.
I don't like him.
You don't like Chris Cuomo?
You know that Chris Cuomo,
when he had COVID, claimed his fever spiked because there was a full moon?
What?
His wife wrote a fever of 99 with an afternoon spike to 101.5 and an evening spike
aggravated by the full moon.
He had...
So it controls the tide
and fevers?
I didn't realize that.
He tried to treat
COVID-19 with passion flour and olive leaf.
What do you have?
Maybe olive leaf.
Maybe that works, but it's certainly not consistent with a guy who's telling you you had to get the vaccine and you could take vibramectin.
Right.
Does it?
Because horse paste.
It's horse paste.
They should be shaved.
They should be shaved.
What person?
What person would tell you to take horse paste?
I don't know.
You?
How about a broth of you?
Let me ask you this about this.
Let me just run this broth by you real quick.
Okay.
All right.
The treatments, this is the words of Chris Cuomo's wife, who described the COVID-19 quote treatments as a broth of cayenne pepper, cayenne pepper, ginger,
garlic,
lemon, or ginger tea with vitamin C.
Now, are those things good?
They might be delicious.
You might love them.
They might cure COVID-19.
Who knows?
But this is not consistent with a person who went on the air a few weeks after that and yelled at everyone in America that they couldn't take ivermectin because it was horse paste.
Right.
It's just like this.
He has absolutely no foundational center.
It's whatever he needs at that moment.
You are one of the worst scumbags on earth if you weren't getting vaccinated, right?
Because you're endangering, you're killing old people.
How many times were we told that by he and others at CNN over and over and over and over when that was supposed to feel bad for him?
Yeah.
Now we're supposed to symptomize vaccine injury.
Oh, okay.
Sure, sure, Chris.
Sure, you are.
Mm-hmm.
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He had a detransitioner on, someone who had gone through the gender transition stuff, trying now to undo all the harm.
Name was Luca Hein.
And here she is talking about when she first realized her mistake.
So you had your breast removed.
Thank God you didn't get a hysterectomy.
When did you realize it was a mistake?
When I was 20 years old.
And then what happened?
How did you
and then
everything
felt like it came crashing apart.
It felt like I had been so disassociated from my body that when it all came back together, it felt like the emotional equivalent of being hit by a bus.
They lied to your parents, didn't they?
When
I think you had to go for breast surgery, when you had your breasts removed,
there was a time when the doctors were covering all of this with your parents.
Is that true?
My parents were never made aware of the fact that the majority of children with this kind of distress could grow out of it or that there was another
there could be something else causing my distress.
Once the gender topic was brought up, it felt like anything that had happened to me in
the past few years, including very serious stuff
like being groomed and sexual trauma.
That just got pushed to the side.
It was like I said, the magic words by bringing up the gender topic.
Geez.
Wow.
So sad.
Yeah, it really is.
They just did a study, I think it was in Denmark, about kids who,
in fact, it's the first, I think it's the first study of its kind that's this extensive.
And it's from 15 years ago where 10 and 11 year olds were tracked with this gender dysphoria.
And then how do you feel 15 years later now?
And it is staggering how many of them were uncomfortable.
But as they grew and got through puberty, they became comfortable with themselves and
didn't need that transformation.
And many of them did not have it.
And then it went away.
I mean, what a surprise that, you know, something that starts when you're nine or 10 or 11 years old and you think is a problem turns out not to be later on.
Huh.
Who would have thought?
You have to disassociate yourself with everything you've learned since you were born.
Yeah.
To go along with this.
Like if you think about like, oh, these kids, you know, they're going through these things and they're having these difficult times.
You have to like disconnect with everything you know about a nine-year-old, right?
A nine-year-old has all sorts of thoughts that aren't realistic.
They're nine.
Yeah.
They're not supposed to be analyzing the world and their future in that way.
That's not their job.
Right.
It's just incredible that this has become somehow the accepted way to go, the humanitarian way to go, is to let kids chop themselves up because maybe, just maybe, they'll think that's the right thing.
And regardless of all this,
the asking of everyone else on the planet
essentially to
enact compelled speech, we must say X, Y, and Z about these people because they request it, which is totally against the American principle of free speech.
I mean, like, you know, we talk like people are like, oh, we're getting censored online.
That's against free speech.
I mean, you could see how that connects, right?
There's connective tissue there.
It's not a fundamental, you know, at its basis, it's not necessarily a First Amendment violation, but it is something that is consistent with the principles of free speech to not censor people.
Take that out for a second, though.
Think about instead about
forcing someone to say something,
right?
Saying you must use X, Y, or Z pronoun for someone.
That is compelled speech.
And the Supreme Court has ruled against that over and over and over and over again.
Not to mention, you don't even need the Supreme Court.
It's obvious.
You can't force someone to say something they don't believe.
This happened recently in the Supreme Court with a case, I want to say it was in California, with it was like a, they passed a law saying if you were involved in like family planning, you had to have posters promoting abortion up in your facility.
And these religious
organizations were like, wait a minute,
our whole mission here is to direct people away from this.
And you want us to put up posters promoting it?
And the Supreme Court said, they don't have to put up posters promoting it.
You're compelling their speech to say something they don't believe in.
That is
obvious to the American people that that shouldn't happen.
And it might be central to
the Soviet Union, but not this country.
And yet they're acting as if not only are we going to entertain these delusions of people who are going through something maybe very difficult, but also all of us have to become complicit in this lie.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
And it's interesting when you get these
boneheads in front of you and you ask them
reasonable questions about this whole gender situation and whether or not
biological girls have to be tolerant of biological males undressing in front of them in a locker room and competing against them in sports.
And it's all fine now with the Biden administration.
Yep, they just did this for Title IX.
Yeah, they just completely turned Title IX on its head.
And it's not about protecting women anymore or supporting women.
It's about the opposite, really,
with this transgender situation.
There was a hearing with Education Secretary
the other day, I think it was yesterday, and Burgess Owens was asking him a really important question.
It's Cut 20.
Check this out.
Secretary, Mr.
Secretary, you're in a very unique position to impact the lives, futures, and fortunes of millions of female athletes.
Americans of both sides of this debate need to know how deep your commitment is.
Would you force your daughter to undress in the bathroom with boys who are also undressing?
I am not going to be commenting on athletics.
We have a lot of people in the world.
You can't say yes or no on that?
I would be happy to talk about a Title IX.
If your daughter was reporting she felt uncomfortable in a boy's presence in a bathroom or locker room, would that be considered by your administration discrimination or bigotry?
As an educator for over 25 years, you can't say yes or no to that?
I would love to respond to your questions.
Okay, so yes or no.
Would it be considered discrimination?
She did not want that to happen.
As an educator for over 25 years, we have had the responsibility.
I don't have but a few minutes here.
Girls have now entered into contact sports of boxing and wrestling.
Would you allow your daughter to physically fight and get beat up by a boy who called himself a girl?
Yes or no?
I would be happy to, once we finalize our regulations on Title IX Athletics, to come out.
Let me just say this.
Let me just talk about Title IX.
A Cherokee proverb that says, a man's highest calling is to protect women so she is free to walk the earth unharmed.
I will say this, Mr.
Secretary, before I go on to this next topic.
With all due respect, I pray
that our country will never, ever have the vision that your policies are now driving us toward in terms of manhood.
It's a vision that teaches our boys that harming girls is no big deal.
I pray that we remain a country that produces overwhelmingly mass majorities of men who feel the way I do about my girls.
I will give my life and a heartbeat for my girls.
And the blessings I have is they have no doubts about that.
There are millions of men and women across this country that do not have faith, do not have trust in you protecting our girls because of policies you can't say yes or no to.
By the way, those are not very hard questions as a father to say the yes or no, and you could not answer that.
Okay,
amazing.
And that happens time after time after time.
They refuse to answer those questions.
These were not questions about Title IX.
They were questions about what he would do with his daughter and whether he feels like it would be discrimination.
Most of them, at least, weren't Title IX related.
They were fatherhood-related.
And of course, he can't answer it because everyone knows the answer.
And if he says it, he's making his own policies look terrible, which they are
terrible.
And he just highlighted, I like Burgess Owens.
Yeah, I do too.
Yeah.
Despite what he did to the Philadelphia Eagles in that Super Bowl.
That's a whole nother story, but I will hold that against him
for his entire life.
But I do like him.
And really, that's the pertinent point, isn't it?
When you bring me up to it, I have very strange priorities.
I'm going to be against the Philadelphia Eagles.
That's what he, I mean,
it's hard to argue that.
Yeah.
Hard to argue.
I don't know why the Secretary of Education didn't bring that up, or whatever he is, whichever one it was.
Speaking of football, you know, our president was in Wisconsin yesterday talking about football.
And
it's fun to watch him
try to pander to Wisconsinites by bringing Green Bay into a discussion where it doesn't belong.
But he tried to twist it into that.
This is
what?
This is cut 11.
All right, here we go.
I went to
Catholic high school in Delaware,
taught by the Norbert team priest
from St.
Norbert's College, you know, a
little team called Green Bay.
Wait, what?
Where'd that come from?
Here's the deal.
What?
Here's the deal.
The high school in Delaware.
Okay.
But overwhelmingly rooted for Green Bay.
Not a joke, I'll tell you why.
Not a joke.
Every single Sunday.
Not only did did they have great teams at the time,
still do, but not only that, not only that.
My
theology professor at the Catholic school I went to was a guy named Riley, last name.
And he had been drafted by the Green Bay Packers.
Okay.
Okay.
He decided to become a priest
before that, so he didn't go.
So he didn't like the Packers very much, apparently.
Every single solitary Monday.
Green Bay won.
We got the last period of the day off.
You got it.
We Catholics call that in the middle of the day.
Long way to the well.
But it worked.
Okay.
The only unfortunate part of that is that it's not true.
No, the priest did not get drafted by the Green Bay Packers.
So this is a lie again.
So it's another lie, another made-up story.
Another one that was fact-checked and turned out to be false.
By the way,
not just fact-checked by us or, you know, the Daily Wire, but fact-checked by mainstream media.
Yes.
Right.
Over and over again.
The Washington Post, Politico, all of these liberal organizations that fact-check him and say he needs to stop saying this.
He never does.
Never does.
You know what else he needs to stop saying is
don't jump, but he can't.
This is an incredible observation by you.
And you're the only person I've ever heard make it.
I love this.
It's cut 13.
Here he is at the end.
Watch this.
Don't jump.
Why?
Why?
Why?
Nobody's even paying attention to him.
He still has to say, don't jump.
Wait, go back to the beginning of this because I don't know that people understand this observation.
What you are alleging with incredible amounts of evidence is that every time Joe Biden is at a speech and he sees someone in an elevated position
on a balcony.
It's a stair.
It could be one stair.
As long as they're above
his position, he says to them, don't jump.
Watch.
Trying to find somebody above him.
Don't jump.
What the hell?
And this is, you might say, okay, well, he said it one time.
It's not a big deal.
It's at least 30.
It's at least 30.
I've heard you play the clips.
Yes.
This is real.
I don't know how many, if you have any of them handy, probably not.
It was, it's so strange.
I've never noticed it before,
but he does it over and over.
And not, and honestly, sometimes even when they're not elevated, he says it.
Yes.
He loves it that much that he's
don't jump.
Don't jump.
Jump.
Don't jump.
Just a few instances.
Don't jump.
Don't jump.
Don't jump.
Hey, hey, man.
Don't jump.
You look crazy enough to jump.
Don't jump.
I mean, what?
What is the deal?
What is that?
Is that weird?
Do you think suicide is funny?
Are you sure?
I mean, yeah, he obviously does, which
I guess you can make jokes out.
And, like, it's just so consistent.
He, like, he thinks this is like, it's, you know, it's like, it's like Jim Gaffigan's hot pockets bit.
He thinks this is his, like, home run.
Right.
Like, bring it home.
Like, like, this is the one.
This is the big finale.
This shows how charming and funny I am.
And he has, you've shown me a clip where a person is just standing in front of, there's no one elevated, and he says, don't jump.
Don't jump.
Because I don't think he even understands what's happening anymore.
And you know what's
fascinating about him is
certain presidents have really elicited anger from me like when they do these things.
And he does that.
The student loan thing, I just get pissed off about.
But like the overwhelming feeling I feel when I see Joe Biden speak is embarrassment.
Yeah, it is embarrassing.
Embarrassment for the country, embarrassment for him, embarrassment for all of us.
I will say this, though, this don't jump thing, it does piss me off.
It enrages me.
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Pat and Stu for for Glenn, who will be back on Monday.
I was talking to my wife yesterday.
She went to Home Depot, and a guy walks up to her and it's like, hey,
what's that shirt?
And
he looks closely at it and goes, oh my gosh, I thought that was a pro-Biden shirt.
And it is not.
It is very much not.
It's the shirt that's available at stewdoesmerch.com.
It says, has a picture of Joe Biden on it, and it says Joe Biden.
It kind of looks like a campaign shirt, but then it has the famous phrase from the report on Joe Biden that says, Joe Biden, elderly man with a poor memory.
And if you look closely at the picture, he doesn't look very good in the picture.
What?
Is that possible for Joe Biden?
It seems like he might be melting in front of your eyes.
So you could get that shirt.
Is his mouth open?
That's what I hope.
A little bit.
Because, yes.
And then he's about to yell, Don't jump.
So StuDoesMerch.com, the code is Stu10.
StuDoesMerch.com.
Why?
Why?
Mm-hmm.
Does he yell, don't jump?
I don't know.
I the time.
I just don't know.
Weirdest.
Peter Ducey, you must ask this question of him.
Why do you continually tell people, don't jump?
Please, Peter, by all that is holy, ask.
I want a full Pat Gray documentary on this joke.
It's coming.
I will come.
It's coming.
The Glenn Beck Program.