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How are you?

I'm doing well, Glenn.

Thank you.

That's great.

That's great.

Later this hour, I'm going to play a few of the clips from my interview with JFK.

Wow, you got him?

Oh, my God.

You got JFK?

Now it is Dallas.

We're in Dallas.

So possibly.

He made a remarkable recovery.

Really?

Gosh, the modern science.

Well, they kept him frozen for a lot of years underneath Parkland Hospital.

Wow, a miracle.

So

wait until next week.

I have an interview with Walt Disney.

Oh, yes.

You got him.

So

it's going to be exciting.

RFK Jr.

was in the studio, and I have to.

I have to tell you that

I may not have been at my tippy top when I did the interview.

I had just had a back procedure done, and they put you under general anesthesia and then say,

don't do anything for at least 12 hours.

And I'm like, yeah, I know, but I got to interview R.L.

K.

Jr.

and they're like, did you just say you had a

so wait, you got you said his name right when you were on drugs, but then you got on the air and said it was JFK?

Yeah, it was weird.

So anyway, So anyway,

so I did the interview with him and we'll talk about it coming up in just a little while and I'll play some clips.

Who did you get to stand in to do his voice so we don't have to hear it?

Was there what actor did you bring in to like say the same words?

I can't take it.

I know he's got an issue.

I know I should feel, I got it, but like it's tough to hear, listen to his voice.

It's just tough.

And, you know, listening to him for, you know, an hour and 15 minutes,

the only question, when i got towards the end the only question i really wanted to ask was does that hurt yeah yeah right but yeah it doesn't uh it sounds all i feel like is like he's just swallowed like 12 razor blades yeah i know and that's really what i think about it's it's like i think of legitimate pain when i hear him talk and it's hard to he's got a breathing thing too with it you know

as he's talking he's like and it really

It really is.

I mean,

it's tough.

It's tough.

You do feel bad for him on on that, especially because, you know, he's had these aspirations, obviously, for a very long time, and it's a big hump to get over.

I mean, you know, they talk about you want that perfect candidate, as Trump always says, out of central casting.

Like, and, you know, he's like,

everyone says he's a good-looking guy, and he's got a Hollywood wife, and, you know, he's got the family name.

He's got so many of the things that you'd think would make a perfect presidential candidate for the Democrats.

Then he has a past.

Oh, yeah.

His past policy.

Did you get into that at all?

You said past policies.

Did you get into any of his

past?

I mean, the fact that he's got, I mean, he's an incredible womanizer.

I mean, at some level.

He's a Kennedy.

Of course he is.

I mean, to the point, though, that

his wife found out and killed herself.

I mean, this is not a good story.

I didn't get into

your wife killed yourself because you're a philanderer.

No, I didn't ask you.

You didn't get into that?

No, I didn't.

Why not?

I didn't.

Why not?

I didn't think the interview would go well after that.

It wouldn't go well, no.

Which is exactly what I wanted to happen.

I wanted it to go well.

You really wanted to be able to do that.

This one was hard for me.

This was really hard for me.

Is this because he wanted you to be specifically dead?

Is it because

he didn't want this interview to happen because 20 years ago he wanted you to be dead?

Yes.

Is that the reason?

That's the reason.

You know, and he is, he is such an extremist

on some issues, right?

Like he's good on others, right?

Like, and that's, but yes, he's kind of, honestly, even on some of the issues he's good on, he's a bit of an extremist.

He's kind of extreme everywhere.

Right.

And I,

and I don't trust him.

I just don't trust him.

I mean, I ended up, I really, that's what I really, that's what I really wanted to find in this interview.

Can

has he really changed?

Has he really changed?

And he

gave me an answer to that.

and i i

buy it do you buy his conversion because i that's what i hear from people who like him on the conservative side they say look yes he said every horrible thing that anyone could ever think of as a liberal however he's now different and we should believe him and make him president and that's a that's a big leap for me it's not one i'm even willing to take right like i'm not saying you can't have a conversion but a conversion like that which by the way in his own words seems to be incredibly recent right like over the past four years, right?

Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, COVID COVID.

He said COVID changed him and that and clearly be yeah, clearly that did affect him.

I mean, and it, you know, it's central to the way he personally's been told me he

everything changed with COVID for him.

He said he didn't ever expect any of those things to happen on the government side or that the people would take it.

He said,

I was shocked.

And I'm like, I don't know, me too.

Me too.

Some of it was shocking to us, although a lot of it was not so shocking.

And I think that's like, it's fascinating when you think about, like, when you think about your neighbors who vote, you know, voting for Joe Biden, a lot of them are in that same world where they just don't think the things

we say will happen could possibly occur.

Right.

Right.

Like, they're in that like haze of like, ah, come on.

These are the people we talked about yesterday with Donald, uh, Donald Trump who who say, oh, well, if he's convicted of a felony, I won't vote for him.

And it's like, well, there's

a version of America where I could really see that being a sensible position.

Like, not now.

I'm 60 years old.

And I would say

at least 40 of those years.

And maybe 45 of those years, I would have been like.

A felony and a felony?

No.

But like now, I think you have to look at that because you don't trust the judicial system.

This thing in New York with him is out of control.

Yeah.

Just completely out of control.

First of all,

statute of limitations gone.

Doesn't seem to matter to anybody.

He's passed the statute of...

You know why we can't get Hunter Biden on the tax thing?

Because the statute of limitations is passed.

They delayed to get past the statute of limitations there.

And then in New York, they're coming up with this like novel way to make it count with another crime that Bragg has no, no authority over and it's not been, he's not been charged with, and then drags that in, combines them so that he can call it a felony so that he can bring it past the statute of limitations.

I mean,

this is definitely going to get overturned eventually, but the problem is going to get overturned in 2026.

And it's like, well, he's either going to be president or not at that point, right?

Like, you know, this is why they're doing these things.

Maybe it'll be enough.

I don't know.

No,

it won't be enough.

But, you know, if you can just

adjust all of the knobs to be off center by 1%,

that adds up.

And

I think that's their plan.

They're just, they're hitting absolutely everything.

I mean, I was thinking about this last night.

People don't have any idea.

I don't either.

You don't have any idea how many things have been changed in the last four years, structurally.

You know, I did a show last night on the medical community.

This is

one of my biggest fears.

And it has been since we went into Obamacare, that if you change the culture,

With our doctors,

you change everything.

The scariest people in World War II were not the jack-booted thugs with the black Hugo boss uniforms.

They wore white coats.

Doctors were far more dangerous than the SS was.

And I know that's saying something, but it was the doctors that systematically killed six million people.

It was the doctors.

They killed millions of

people that they deemed not worthy of life

doctors what what I showed you last night on the TV show and if you missed it if you're a blaze TV supporter you've got to watch last night's episode because I don't think people understand what's coming our way and they're dismissing what's happening in our medical schools you are now being told if you go into a medical school, you have to take an oath to DEI.

You can't be a doctor and go through medical school in America if you don't swear an oath to DEI.

That, by the way, would cancel out your Hippocratic oath.

Because your Hippocratic oath is you're a doctor, you'll do no harm, you will not look at the person, you will look at everyone the same.

Well, DEI says exactly the opposite.

We're in real danger and people

don't really understand it because of like what you said.

They don't see,

you know, they just think, oh, well, it won't happen.

Well, it is happening.

It is happening.

And it's happening rapidly.

People who still think that, you know, we're we're

they're believing the lies that, oh, you know, inflation's getting better.

No, it's not.

No, it's not.

The Industrial Commodity Commodity Index, you know what that is?

It is far higher today than it was in 2020, along with oil and gas prices.

Every base resource that companies make to use products is increasing in value, which means it costs more to make the things you want to buy.

Agriculture is

particularly heavy.

It is affected by the oil prices, as well as the prices in fertilizer, farm equipment, higher costs in labor.

From 20 to 23, the total cost paid by farmers to raise crops and care for livestock increased by more than $100 billion

or 28%

increase.

Funny how that number tracks so close to the 30% in overall food prices going up.

30%

to the cost to make the food has gone up 28%.

So it's not greedflation now, is it?

It's real inflation.

And what the farmers and everybody else are going through,

it is not going to stop increasing.

Right now,

what you paid for

for eggs and milk and everything else in 2019

is 30% higher today.

Now, today, the inflation numbers come out and they say, oh, well, it's only up 3.5%, so inflation is getting better.

No, that means it's now 33%

higher.

Not 30%,

33.

We've added another 3.5%.

And they're saying that it's not going to slow down here.

They're preparing you now to expect 3% to 4% inflation every year.

Well, you have 4%.

now you're at 37.

It is

food.

I am so concerned that people,

look,

even when I wrote the great reset

and I said, you know, that they're going to impoverish everyone, I really didn't understand how it was going to happen.

It's so real to me now.

I know how they're going to impoverish us.

They're impoverishing us by making our jobs absolutely unaffordable.

The restrictions and the new guidelines that companies and especially small businesses have to follow, then the raising of the minimum wage to 20, 25%.

Small businesses will not be able to function

by

having no law applied in cities.

You know, in 2019, 2020, Manhattan had about 3% of their storefronts empty.

That's now almost 12%.

And they're not coming back.

They're going away

because I can't remember what it is.

Is it

4 billion?

40 billion?

Numbers mean nothing to me anymore.

It's in the billions of dollars that just the

stores in Manhattan have lost through theft this year.

It's an incredible number.

Who's paying for that?

Who's paying for all of the goods and services that we're giving away to the people that are coming across our border?

Who's paying for it?

You are.

So they're hurting your job.

They're making food harder to buy, harder for the farmers to grow,

putting businesses out of work, putting more and more restrictions on you.

Look, here's the thing, because I know in this audience there's a lot of people that work hard, pay their taxes, try to do the right thing, believe in the Constitution, believe in a government that is ruled by law and the Constitution, and are worried about tomorrow because you see it coming.

You listen to this program.

So you see it coming.

You're way ahead of of most people.

Let me give you a piece of advice.

Your food has gone up 33%

now in inflation.

What investment have you made that has gone up in three years by 33%?

Do you have anything?

You're 401k.

Maybe.

Let me just say this.

Well, give me one minute and then I'm going to come back and I'll give you a piece of advice.

You know, don't listen to me for financial advice or anything else, but I think it makes an awful lot of sense.

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I think if you are the average American, you need to start looking at food like a 401k.

If you start, if you're somebody who's like, I don't have a lot of extra money, good.

I've said this before, and it is becoming so apparent that this is going to be worth a lot.

Food.

buy food with a long shelf life that you can keep and use

because if you were using stuff you know

when you hit tough times and you know food is 50 that's only 20 more in inflation and it will happen

um

if you're using food that is 50% more expensive,

you're going to be able to last a lot longer than going to the grocery store at that time and buying that food.

So I would suggest that you look for ways to purchase food with a long shelf life now.

Things are not going to go back the way they were in 2020 for a very long time.

They will eventually, but

we are hitting

We have not yet felt the ramifications of everything that has been done in the last three years.

We will hit this after the election with whomever is president.

But just ask yourself, do you trust the people that claimed this was all transitory, didn't exist, it was in your imagination, and now tell you, oh, yes, it did happen, but we've got plans to fix it.

They're not going to fix this.

They're making it worse.

I would highly recommend

stopping the inflation as much as you can in your own household, and you can't afford gold or silver or whatever.

Food.

Food is a great investment right now.

Buy it when it's on sale.

Keep it, store it, buy as much of it as you can, and keep it to yourself.

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Robert F.

Kennedy announced today he is running for president as an independent.

He's changed his mind.

He's one of us now.

The RFK called for my execution.

Well, I called you a traitor.

The next time you see Glenn Beck lying to the American public, I respect him as a man.

I am not looking to sabotage him.

I don't want him to be president, but that's not my decision.

That's your decision.

Robert, welcome to the program.

Thanks for having me.

If you're a Blaze TV subscriber, you can get that.

Now,

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It's a good trailer.

It's a good trailer right there.

You know,

I feel as though I

let people down in a way because

it's such a weird paradox.

Because

I did not come gunning for him.

And that's what I wanted to do.

We should use that terminology with a cat.

Oh, yeah, yeah, okay.

I just mean it that that way.

Yeah.

Ian Gleinbacker's gunning for Academy.

Well, Joe Biden would be okay with that.

I mean, there's no security on him.

But

I wanted so badly

to just take him apart.

But I don't feel that's my job.

My job is to just ask questions that people want to know and have a decent conversation with somebody.

Yeah, I think that's the, I mean, you're not going to go in there and that's not what you do.

I can't invite, I've always said this, I cannot invite somebody into my own house and then set them on fire.

It's not really good.

But I did say to him, there were some things that you have said in the past that Glenn will address.

And he, so so he knew that I was going to be addressing a few things, but I

just

don't know.

Yeah, you didn't ambush him.

No, he knew what you would do.

You couldn't do that with anybody.

I felt the same exact way about the Alex Jones interview.

That you did.

I wanted to go in there, you know, guns blazing, metaphorically speaking.

But he was so

nice.

Yeah, I couldn't.

I couldn't.

I asked him the questions I wanted to ask him, I think, for the most part, but I, you know, I thought it was going to be confrontational.

And it

wasn't.

Was it that one with RFK?

It wasn't confrontational.

I asked him some things.

First of all, I mean, I have great, tremendous respect for his dad.

I think Bobby Kennedy was the good Kennedy.

You don't think so?

Yeah.

I mean, he probably.

Relatively speaking, yes.

Right.

And I think it was terrible.

I think Ted was the good one.

Yeah.

And now JFK wouldn't even make it into the Republican Party, let alone the Democrats.

So, you know, we started talking

on things like that.

And he was,

he never gave solid answers.

He would give, you know, very nice scenarios, nice things that he wanted to do, but I never felt like I really got an answer, you know?

But I...

Were you able to at least, I think, you know, because obviously a lot of the people listening to this are going to be conservatives.

They listen to your podcast.

Were you able to at least illuminate some of his more liberal views?

Because I feel like what's been odd about the RFK is changing.

He kept saying,

I still believe in, for instance, we talked about ESG.

And do you believe in ESG?

You believe that banks should be able to say

what people can invest in and debanking people.

And he said, what is that and i said esg

he looked at me

like i and i i actually i can't imagine how but i actually believe him that he didn't know what esg was i mean that's and he said i know comprehensible you can't be president if you don't know what that is but um i said esg

and he just kept looking at me i said environmental social uh and governance.

And he said, oh, environmental.

I'm still right where I was on environmental.

And I said, no, do you believe?

And he said, well, no, I don't believe that.

So it was never, I just didn't feel like you could really pin him down.

He kept coming back, however, to,

you know, COVID changed everything for me.

Now, whether that did or not, I've always looked for turning points.

I've looked for that pivot pivot point in people's lives.

He claims that's his pivot point.

Maybe it is.

You know,

if you want to be president of the United States, I'd like to see a little setting time of the cake.

You know, you take the cake out of the oven, maybe let it set a little bit before you eat it.

And it's like,

okay, like, this is a guy who argued

for decades, by the way.

And we have, you know, the one clip is in the trailer of him basically calling you a traitor for not having the same view as

on global warming.

But he,

that went on for decades after that clip where he was saying people like the Koch brothers should be put, they should go to The Hague.

These are his quotes.

Now, I am not

completely stunned that after COVID, and he went through a lot of

all of a sudden his views were out of line with what everyone liked, and all of a sudden he was feeling those pressures.

I'm not surprised that would change his perspective.

However, I'm a little skeptical of a person who believed that for that long of a time and only changed his mind because it hurt him.

That's not the type of principle I want in a leader of the country.

Is he defending American values or is he defending, wow, this thing happened to me and now I realize it's real?

He said, and you'll hear it and you can believe it or not by listening to him.

You know, he said that it was not that it happened to him.

It was that he did not expect the American people

nor the government to actually

do things like that.

You mean the things that he was advocating for for multiple decades?

Basically,

he claimed it was hyperbolic.

And it probably was.

I don't know.

I mean, you know, when you just said, I want to go gunning for him.

Yeah.

You know, I don't mean it that way.

We would have never said that 20 years ago, 15 years ago.

We all would have known.

Yeah.

We still do.

But, like, that's not.

I know.

That was not what he was doing.

I'm sorry.

That was not a joke based on a terrible incident in the Kennedy family history.

You're going to have to

take for a policy and did it for a long time in a lot of detail over multiple decades.

That's like you being like, you know, I just don't like capitalism anymore because that thing that happened last week makes me president.

Like, what?

What?

No.

How about the, you know what?

You set for the, you marinate in that opinion and wait for it to challenge you again.

And let's see how hard you hold that line.

Well, I'd be concerned.

This is outside of

who he is as a person and the things that I don't like about him.

But it's like anybody, I think, that is a rational request.

Like if a massive change in all of your opinions happened within the last presidential cycle, I don't know.

Maybe wait one more presidential cycle before you're the president.

I don't know.

That's a crazy line for me.

Well, he's going to.

At least one.

And probably many, many, many more.

He's not going to win.

But still, It's a frustrating question.

No, but he could

affect

Joe Biden.

Yeah.

Well,

he was talking

to Republicans.

I know.

I mean,

he claims he was offered the VP

job under Trump.

Yeah.

I don't know if I believe that.

Yeah.

He claims that that happened.

I actually walked away liking him, thinking he's a very he's he's when it comes to foreign policy, policy he's much smarter than I thought we agreed on a lot of things

if you trust

I thought there were things that you know kind of overlapped that I and I ended up liking him but I don't trust him and that just comes I think from time like you were saying you know I have no idea if that's real or not I have no idea and in today's world I'm not willing to roll the dice We're already rolling the dice with every candidate.

Why roll the dice with this one?

We know what Biden is going to do.

He's proven it to us.

We know what Donald Trump is going to do.

He's proven it to us.

I'd rather not try this one out on the

Daytona 500.

Plus, let's have him run a few laps elsewhere.

On the things on which we disagree, we disagree vehemently, like climate change, like abortion.

I mean, those are sorry.

They're kind of two big ones, right?

Really big ones.

Climate change is the control basically the entire economy.

Yeah.

So that's a big one to disagree with somebody on abortion.

At least there are children that will either live or die.

Right.

So that's kind of a big one.

I don't know if you've heard, but in Arizona, the Republicans just can't get their act together.

I've heard that.

I heard this this morning on a podcast, and they were like, oh, well, the Republicans couldn't get their act together to overturn this law.

And it's like, well, maybe the act they want to get together is not killing children.

Maybe that's the act they're trying to accomplish.

Well, that came from 1864, though.

And anything that comes from 1864 is bad.

Really,

like laws

that are not against, you know, if you go back, there were laws against murder in 1864.

That's a bad law.

So we should, all the laws now from 1864 we're just going to get rid of and see if we can repass.

Is that what we're doing now?

It's asinine.

It's asinine.

This is the law that was on the books.

And like, you guys could have passed a law that killed all, yeah, kill all the children you want.

Law, that could have happened the entire time Roe versus Wade was in.

You didn't do it.

So you have the law that's on the books.

That's the way that this works.

It's just incredibly frustrating.

And like, they just will get to this point where, I mean, we saw this with Bill Maher.

Did you see this Bill Marclip this week where he was talking about abortion?

Do we have it?

We have this.

Okay.

Play the Bill Marclip.

The idea that you're fighting an election around this issue seems to be, you know, just strange.

Back to the 19th century.

That's a weird issue.

Not if you believe it's murder.

Thank you.

That's why I don't understand the 15-week thing.

Or Trump's plan is let's leave it to the states.

You mean so killing babies is okay in some states?

I couldn't respect the absolutist position.

I really can't.

I scold the left when they say, oh, you know what?

They just hate women, people who aren't pro-life,

pro-choice, they just, they don't hate women.

They just made that up.

They think it's murder.

And it kind of is.

I'm just okay with that.

I am.

I mean, there's 8 billion people in the world.

I'm sorry, we won't miss you.

That's my position.

Wow.

Even chilling to his audience.

Yeah, exactly.

Is that not your position if you're pro-choice?

Maybe because you don't like children.

No, no.

I mean,

if you said you're pro-choice.

That's your position too.

And he, by the way, nods to that, Piers Morgan nods to that.

Yes, that is my position.

That's just admitting it's saying the quiet part out loud, right?

Right.

I'm okay with murder.

Yeah.

I'm okay with killing babies.

I think it's fascinating because comedians, like, their job is obviously to exaggerate and be funny.

And that wasn't really even trying to be funny.

No.

But like, comedians do this often where they cut, the other part of their job is cutting through all the crap, right?

Like, pro-choice.

What does that actually mean?

And he's not the only comedian who's been doing this.

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So we were talking about how things are changing and comedians are starting to,

especially when it comes to abortion,

speak out.

Bill Maher, we just heard said, yeah, well, it's killing a baby, and I'm okay with that.

They're just admitting what's actually true that they all know is true.

Correct.

It's just comedians are the only ones saying it.

Here's another example.

This is Bill Burr.

Pro-choice always made sense to me because I don't like people telling me what to do.

And I was just like, it's your body.

Who the fk am I to tell you what to do with your body?

So that always made sense.

All right.

However,

I still think you're killing a baby.

See?

That's where it gets weird.

It's not a baby yet.

That's what they say.

Which may or may not be true.

I don't know.

I'm not a doctor, but I'll tell you, my gut tells me that doesn't make sense.

It's not a baby yet.

That would be like if I was making a cake and I poured some batter in a pan and I put it in the oven and then five minutes later you came by and you grabbed the pan and you threw it across the floor.

And I went, what the f is ruined my birthday cake?

And then you were like, well, that wasn't a cake.

Well, it would have been.

If you didn't do what you just did, there would have been a cake in 50 minutes.

Something after that cake, complete murder inside of a

It's so great.

And then also, Louis Kaye did something on this as well.

I don't think it's killing a baby.

I don't.

I mean,

it's a little bit...

It's a little bit killing a baby.

It's a little bit.

It's 100% killing a baby.

It's totally killing a whole baby.

But...

I think that women should be allowed to kill babies.

That's what I mean.

I just think it has to be one or the other.

You don't like when people say abortion should be legal, safe, and rare.

Why rare if it should be legal?

If it should be legal, it's it's shit.

If it should be rare, it's murdering babies.

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Iran is, I believe, the head of the snake in so many ways.

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that are, they're just, they're a horror show.

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Everybody's trying to pressure Israel to not bomb them, not go to war.

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We have an American Foreign Policy Council senior fellow, and she was the former Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs under Donald Trump.

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Maura, I've been

following you.

We've been looking at what should we be doing with Iran?

I feel like

we've passed so many exits and our government is only making things worse by cozying up to them.

What should be happening?

What should we be looking for and what should we be hoping for?

Hi, Glenn.

It's a pleasure to be with you.

And you're totally correct.

You're absolutely correct.

So what's happened now, all of the trouble that's happening in the region is a direct result of the head of the snake, as you very correctly said, which is Iran, right?

So this is happening because the Iranian regime is not only deeply unpopular with their own population, they need to externalize conflict in order to stay in power.

People that are familiar with the policy of President Trump know that his policy was exactly, exactly the worst nightmare for the regime because he was using maximum pressure to cripple the regime by robbing them of the funds they use to spread terror at home and abroad, right?

So this regime, when you understand the history of it, that it came into power in a whirlwind in 1979, it's based on terror and it's based on ruling through fear.

And they had to externalize conflict in order order to keep hold.

So we would be remiss not to be students of history and actually understand that for this regime to maintain power, they have to externalize conflict and they have to create manufactured crisis for people to rally around the flag.

It is a false enemy.

The highest population of Jewish people outside of Israel and the Middle East are in Iran.

There is no natural animosity between the Iranian people and the Israeli people or Jews in general.

This is a manufactured crisis by the Islamic regime in power in Iran, and it's one of many that they need to try to distract and keep hold of power.

You know,

it's one of the only countries that I look at a lot like we should have looked at Russia when it was the Soviet Union, that the people were not the government at all.

And in fact, I think the United States is starting to be like that.

way now, that our government is doing things overseas and fighting wars and

forcing people to live under our

quote values

all over the world.

And we're getting a bad name around the world.

And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, but that's not us.

That's the government.

Same there.

And exactly the same as it was in the Soviet Union.

And that's different than most places.

That's different than, for instance, in Gaza, where most of the people are,

you know, they really do believe that.

you know, the Israelis need to be killed and America is the great Satan, et cetera, et cetera.

So in Iran, the population is vastly pro-American, right?

So you have a very pro-American population.

And

if you recall, prior to 1979, things like the hijab or the mandatory hairscarf were not around.

So you have a population or an age group that's my age or younger that remembers, hey, their mom didn't have to do this.

Their ancestors didn't have to do this.

This is manufactured restrictions from this regime.

So you have a very pro-Western, pro-American population.

When the regime paints the American flag or the Israeli flag on the ground, the population will walk around it.

This is a population that under President Trump

was chanting his name and people wrote Trump 2020 on IRGC bases.

This is a very brave population that is very pro-American, that believes in the values of America, believes in the dream of America, and wants to emulate that.

It's their regime that's counter to it.

So if we don't understand that and we don't capitalize that as Americans, we're remiss and we're going to keep making the same mistakes.

Why are we funding an anti-American regime through non-enforcement of sanctions, through

these horrible hostage deals that you're just promoting the more taking of hostages, and then wondering why the policy is a failure?

You had a working policy under President Trump, and Joe Biden completely reversed that policy back to a failed Obama-era JCPOA appeasement stature, and then we're wondering why it's not working.

Well, let's have some strategic smart policy.

You support the will of the people, and you put maximum maximum pressure on the regime.

Support the people that love you and you put pressure on the people that hate you.

Okay, so what should, because I look at Israel and their response, which they say is coming, but probably, you know, after Passover,

I look at this and I think to myself, as an American, oh, no, please,

I don't want another thing on fire, but it's already on fire.

But if I were as an Israeli, I would be saying, hit them right now, hit them.

What should they do if you're from the Israeli perspective?

Do you

do that?

Yeah, so from the Israeli perspective, they're between a rock and a hard place, right?

It's impossible to fight on every single front.

And of course, you know, when you're attacked, any country has the right to have a response.

My point is, be strategic because you cannot get into a war with Iran and expect a good result.

And you don't even want to do that, not just because the U.S.

is under a certain type of leadership that is probably not going to help you out to the degree that you'd want to be helped out, but even beyond that, accepting the reality of what the situation is, why would you want to make an enemy of the Iranian people who are already on your side and re-solidify the regime?

The regime, when it came into power in 1979, was very unstable.

It was the Iran-Iraq war and Saddam's invasion that allowed them to have people rally around the flag and solidify themselves through a power grab.

Why would you repeat that mistake?

If you want the end result of a peaceful, stable, democratic, potential ally in an Iran that you can get along with, well, great.

Let's take steps to make that happen.

You know, dropping bobs in an all-out war on a population in Iran is not the way to do it.

But wait, wait, wait, wait.

I don't think that's what they would even consider.

I hope not.

But I do think they would target strategic places that would hurt the administration and hurt their ability to build bombs.

Right.

I think a strategic response is, you know, totally within their calculus to decide on what they want to do and not do.

From my perspective, I think the less casualty or loss you have to innocent civilian lives, the better positioned you are.

Because the more that happens, as they've seen, the more of a PR nightmare it is for them and more of a nightmare it is on an international scale.

So they've got to be strategic.

They've got to be very, very careful about how they respond.

But of course, everybody's entitled to respond whenever they're attacked.

So what are your thoughts about the long arm of Iran?

I mean, we're seeing people now on the streets, you know, death to America, death to Israel.

We're seeing things that we've not seen in our own streets.

And we're seeing a lot of it.

And

I got to believe that when they're ready, they'll pull the trigger when they feel it's the right time.

They'll pull the trigger and we'll have really not good things happening here.

Again, another Joe Biden policy failure, right, with his border crisis.

So, this is the absurdity of Joe Biden's administration and, you know,

the failure of reversal of Trump's policies that we're working.

So, this is a direct result of allowing an open border crisis and allowing anybody to come in without any vetting.

I mean, I'm the child of immigrants, right?

There's nobody, I think, that thinks that there shouldn't be any immigrants allowed in the United States, but you have to know who's coming in, what their intentions are.

You have to have proper vetting, and you can't allow this type of infiltration of our country of nefarious actors because the regime does have a long arm, and they are sending people in.

And, you know, this didn't publicize in the press when I worked in the prior administration.

They were trying to target administration officials back under President Trump, let alone what they're trying to do now.

So, you know, there's former officials I work with that have, you know, pretty heavy full-time security.

There's journalists that work for

VOA and other

stations that had pretty serious attempts on their life.

So it's not a joke.

And, you know, allowing this sort of

open loophole to come in through, you know, any border, any entry, no questions asked, is going to be

exploited by nefarious actioners like the regime.

And it's a crisis waiting to happen.

So do the does anybody in the State Department ever take the leadership's

view of

end of days and the 12th Imam and all of this crap?

You know, they'll look at somebody who is

saying a prayer, you know, someplace in America in a Christian church, and they'll be like, that's a religious zealot.

They're going to tear the country apart.

And then they'll dismiss these people

who say in speeches, oh, Allah,

you know, give me the strength to hasten the return of the promised one, which is really terrifying.

Does anybody

there's a big of cognitive dissonance here?

And it's, you know, when you have discussions with people that, you know, might be working in departments and have a different point of view there there is a tendency to sort of say oh well that's not what they mean or that's hyperbole or you know they don't really mean death to America when they say it's just the sort of waving off that is just an unserious position to take and there's I mean it's not a secret that there's a lot of Iranian regime pro-regime lobbyists in this country who purposely push this narrative and purposely provide false information to try to sort of wave off the crazy statements that are made and the really

damaging statements that are made and sort of say, oh, that's just hyperbole.

That's just lost in translation.

But it's really not.

I mean, the actions speak louder than words.

And when the actions follow those words, you have to take them seriously.

You can't just say, oh, it's a fluke a hundred times over.

No, they mean what they say.

It's really

terrifying when you look at the history of Hamas and the grand Mufti, you know, from the 1920s and 30s that was a huge Hitler supporter.

And, and what those seeds that were planted, and then in the new Islamic Republic, the leadership there, they mean it when they say, you know, we'll kill the Jews and, you know, Israel will burn in the

flames of the Islamic fury.

They mean that.

They mean that.

Do they?

I think that the regime knows exactly what they're doing to rattle everyone around them.

And I think if given an opportunity to externalize a conflict they'll do it right so these are these are not irrational actors these are rational actors who have a strategic point of view and believe what they believe they use the foundations of you know whatever faith or political realities are necessary to achieve a political end right so these people are not

you know, saying things that they don't mean.

They mean them and they want to be strategic to maintain control of power and maintain control control of a population that is not supported by them, right?

They're deeply, deeply unpopular with their own population, let alone externally.

But they have to create a boogeyman.

They have to create this externalized conflict to sort of distract from the plethora of problems they have at home.

So, you know, you've got to take them to a certain degree at face value, but also understand that there are political and strategic and real goals at the end of

the pretty crazy statements.

You know,

there doesn't seem to be any

love

of the Palestinian movement from the neighbors of Israel.

They close their borders.

They don't want them.

And it seems to be the same thing with the administration of Iran.

But the Middle Eastern countries, I think, like the conflict with

the Palestinians.

I don't know what it serves, but they seem to like it.

And

they don't like Iran, but they seem to pussyfoot around.

All of the advances that Trump made in pulling that coalition together, Egypt and

Saudi Arabia, and really building a coalition with Israel to stand against Iran, have we just blown that?

Yeah, pretty much.

I mean, I can give you a nicer answer, but I mean, in a lot of ways, there's been a lot of damage done to a lot of the coalition building.

I mean, the Abraham Accorahs were wildly successful.

That was a great President Trump initiative.

And frankly, I mean, talk about the Nobel Peace Prizes in some years that have been handed out willy-nilly.

President Trump should have gotten a Nobel Peace Prize for that, right?

So that was groundbreaking for Middle East peace is to have the Abraham Accords.

And frankly, we're sitting in a position now where a lot of that work has been unwound and has been backtracked.

And again, the United States needs to be a stable, reliable ally and a stable, reliable foe, an adversary.

for those that challenge us.

You can't have this flip-flop of foreign policy from administration to administration and expect to have the credibility that we once did in the world, right?

So there has to be

some sort of adults in the room, which the Biden administration claimed to be, but clearly are not.

And

understanding that, hey, maybe we have policy differences with our predecessor, but these policies worked.

And

these policies were strategic and effective.

And perhaps we shouldn't unwind them just for the sake of

pacifying a base in the U.S.

and saying we undid everything he did.

Have some clear eyes and say that, hey, the Abraham Accords were a good thing.

Stability in the Middle East and no new wars was a good thing.

So let's keep that going.

Thank you so much for all that you do and making the Middle East a little easier to understand.

Maura, I appreciate that.

You're welcome.

Happy to.

God bless.

Happy to.

You bet.

Thank you.

God bless.

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Yeah.

That's possible.

Well, I mean, could it have gone worse on the view?

No, no.

But

I asked him

the questions that I tried to find out who he really was.

No, that's what you should do.

I mean,

I get irritated by him and want you to just go after him, but that's how you should handle the interview.

You shouldn't listen to what my advice is.

I made a promise that I would do interviews with everybody who is running for president.

The only one I haven't had in the official series is Donald Trump, but we've had, you know, I've done several interviews with Donald Trump.

Did you do a Biden?

No, I of course don't know.

No Joe Biden.

I think you should invite him.

I think it's door's open, right?

Doors open.

And I would love to have him on.

I would treat him well.

I mean,

I do not invite people into my house and then pee all over him.

No,

you've had that policy for a very long time.

Yeah.

And it's not.

I've lived up to that.

It's not right.

You know, and I am not the decision maker here.

I will ask the questions and then you have to answer and then let the people decide.

So,

you know, I learned some things about RFK

and not necessarily in the way or what I, I don't know, it's just not what I expected.

Not what I expected.

Haven't changed my mind, you know, on voting for him on president.

And I think so, are you going to vote for him?

No, no, no.

No, I'm not.

No, I'm not.

No, I'm not.

But, you know,

I had a very pleasant conversation with him, and, you know, he claims that he is a different man.

And that's great.

I really do hope he's changed from what he was.

I mean, because what he was was not great.

Yeah.

But I still, when you're talking about electing the president of the United States, you'd like to be more certain.

Yes.

Yes.

About who a person is.

Right.

But look at.

I always cheer on a conversion story

when you're converting to the right side.

And some of the things

he is.

He has not converted on the environment, as he pointed out to you, which is really

outside of wishing for the death of the guy I work with every day, that was one of my biggest problems with him.

Really, you had a problem with that because don't you kind of lean that direction?

I wanted to be the one who did it.

I wanted to be the one who commits the murder.

No,

I think

the global warming stuff is so,

so bonkers from him, so over the top that he just says he's changed.

He said he's still global warming central right

environmental but he doesn't want people to be killed for opposing it he's reversed himself on the censorship aspect in other words people because his previous belief was people who support global uh global warming skepticism should be treated as traders um he's talked about putting uh putting them in front of the hague many times.

You know, he and, you know, again, there's other stuff that was concerning to me, like his lengthy support for Hugo Chavez and things like that.

But

some of those seem to have changed.

Like he's not changed his position

on the policies surrounding global warming.

He's just saying you shouldn't put the opponents of those policies in prison.

And that's a good change.

Yes.

That is a good, very minor change

that will not exactly get me over the hump to support his candidacy.

But as you point out, you can have a good conversation with him.

And you are, you've done this with many people that you disagree with.

And that's a good part of the podcast.

It's one of the reasons that podcast works well.

Not everybody is a hardcore conservative that comes on here or that agrees with you on everything.

I would love to have a conversation with Bill Maher now.

Okay.

Bill Maher is, he has changed.

And he's, and maybe not.

He may not have changed any of positions, but I think he takes it more seriously and he's not going for claptor.

He's, he, I think he's had a

change in, you know, things are getting really serious here and we have to have honest conversations.

And for the first time, you know, I look at Bill Maher.

Can we play that clip we played last hour?

The abortion one?

Yeah.

Listen to this, Bill Maher, just recently.

The idea that you're fighting an election around this issue

seems to be, you know, just strange.

Yeah, really weird.

Back to the 19th century.

Well,

crap, clap, clap.

Not if you believe it's murder.

Thank you.

You know, that's why I don't understand the fitness.

Nobody leaves it.

Nobody laughs.

Where the Trump's plan is, let's leave it to the states.

You mean, so killing babies is okay in some states?

Like, I can respect the absolutist position.

I really can't.

I scold the left when they say, oh, you know what?

They just hate women, people who aren't pro-life,

pro-choice.

They don't hate women.

They just made that up.

They think it's murder.

And it kind of is.

I'm just okay with that.

I am.

I mean, there's 8 billion people in the world.

I'm sorry, we won't miss you.

That's my position on that.

That's cool.

Yeah, exactly.

Is that not your position if you're pro-choice?

Isn't that mainly because you don't like children?

No, no.

I mean,

but if you are, you said you're pro-choice.

That's your position too.

It's totally true.

And by the way, I completely agree with him on his point on

the absolutist positions are the only one that makes sense.

It doesn't make any sense to ban it in 18 weeks and be like, okay, I guess we did it.

We banned 1.6% of abortions.

I think now our hands are clean.

Like, none of that makes any sense to me, but that's a whole other story.

So the reason why I bring this up is.

For the first time, I think I'm getting to where Ronald Reagan was with Tip O'Neal.

You know, the old story is, well, they could just hash it out and just really come at each other and then go have a beer.

Well, I don't want to have a beer with AOC or,

you know, Joe Biden.

I think the weirdest bar in the world.

And I would need.

Do you think the Star Wars cantina was weird?

Imagine you walk into a bar and just Glenn Beck at AOC and just throwing them back.

Yeah.

And believe me, if if I were in the bar with AOC, I would not be starting with beer.

Bring the jack.

Leave the bottle here.

So anyway,

you know, but I, but that's because they're not honest.

They're fake, yeah.

Yeah.

He's at least saying the truth.

He's saying, look.

I don't have a problem with it.

It is murder.

It is killing babies, but I don't have a problem with that.

And nobody likes that point of view, but at least he's being honest.

At least he's being honest.

And he's, you can disagree with him all you want, but as long as somebody is honest on the other side of the table, I can get along with them forever.

It's my problem is the progressives,

because it's built in their name, progress a little bit at a time.

And

they will deny their end goal.

And because they deny their end goal, you can't talk to them.

You can't.

You have nothing serious.

Nothing serious.

The female voice that starts that clip is a great example of it.

Like, I don't understand why they'd want to fight an election on this issue.

It's just strange.

Is it strange

the ending of life of children?

Is that a weird thing for you to think about during the election?

I mean, I kind of find it weird that fighting for the right to end the lives of children is something you want to fight the entire election.

But that's what they're doing.

That's why they used to say safe, rare, and legal.

Right.

And then they say screw rare.

Right.

Because they used to,

they were more honest.

Look, it's bad.

It's

really bad.

We think it's the best of two horrible choices.

Correct.

Like, that's a bad position and wrong.

Now they're saying it's a great choice.

In fact, maybe the choice more people should make.

And in some ways, that's more intellectually defensible than the other position.

You know, it's like, if you're going to be Bill Maher and say, yeah, killing people is fine, at least that's consistent.

It doesn't make any sense to say, I think killing people is wrong, but also women's rights are the way I'm going to make this decision on this.

No, but see,

that's the way to win, though.

Right.

That is the way to win.

It's not honest.

It's not honest, but it is the way to win.

And frankly, it's the same thing that's going on with the Republicans right now.

Like,

I don't.

Like, the idea of having some sort of ban that takes out 1 or 2% of abortions, like, it's great to put a ceiling on it.

Every baby that can actually be born instead of dying is something that I'm going to be happy about.

But, like, at the end of the day, these decisions are being made because people want to win elections, which is a concern, right?

Like, it's a legitimate concern.

I know a lot of people who believe like you got to stay away from the abortion thing because it's just an election killer.

And maybe it is, but like,

At some point, you have to think, like, this is a very basic life and death issue.

At some point, you just need to be able to say hey like i'm not gonna fold on that issue like i don't understand why every single uh every single congress there is not a republican proposing a constitutional amendment to ban abortion not uh

what if we take three days off the end and make it a 22-week and four-day ban or whatever they're proposing.

Like, how is there not at least, you know, it may never pass.

Oh, there should.

But it should be proposed every single Congress and should have at least a vote every single Congress.

It's that voice of an end.

John Quincy Adams.

He went back to Congress to stop slavery.

He was the president.

And he went back to Congress to sit as a congressman and having to get votes every two years.

And he sat there just to propose an end to all slavery.

And he did it over and over and over again, and it wasn't popular.

And he realized at the end, you can't make, you're going to have to have a war over this because there is no progress.

Nobody's making progress on this.

They're all just talking a good game.

And it was an issue that was so important that that was a...

And you couldn't get people to talk about it for the same reason.

Nobody wants to think about this.

Nobody wants to think about it.

It's true.

It is the slavery issue of our day.

And you know what?

No one does want to think about it because it's difficult issues.

You're talking about it's got everything to do from sex all the way to like these impossible decisions.

And when Democrats have to think about what it really is, they have to face a lot of uncomfortable truths about their position.

And

what are the Republicans doing right now?

Well, what we should do is make sure no one can think about it because what if we lose this election and I lose my seat?

Like the Republican response is to take the responsibility away from people on the left who are advocating for this policy and hopefully making them never have to think about it again.

How does that change long term?

Yeah, I got it.

Maybe it gets you an extra couple hundred votes in your district, but how does that change things long term?

How does this end in children not dying?

Can you explain that?

Does it seem to be even part of the plan for a lot of these people?

It is the progressive way.

That is the problem.

Republicans are progressives as well.

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As we're getting ready for Passover,

we had a conversation yesterday about the red heifers

and the red heifers that are being sent from, or have already been sent, from America to Israel.

This is something Old Testament,

the 10th red heifer, you know, if it's all done right, et cetera, et cetera.

We don't really know how,

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The people in Hamas, the people who are Muslim, they know all about the red heifer.

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We have Bill Cloud back on.

He is the founder of Jacob's Tenth Fellowship, also Shorshim Ministries.

And he's probably, he's taught biblical prophecy for a long time.

And what I like about him, he's not like, we're all going to die.

It's coming tomorrow.

He takes a very tempered look at everything

and just can give you the facts that we know, but we don't know if those are the facts that, you know, God was telling us to look for.

Is that a good explanation,

Bill?

Well, I do try to be tempered.

I mean, I try to keep all of my theology in this solar system.

So,

you know, so I try to be that way.

Okay.

And you said yesterday that sometimes, you know, what we think is going, we're looking for is not necessarily going to happen the way we think it's going to happen.

Can you give me an example of that?

Well, yeah, in Matthew chapter 17,

Messiah goes up to the top of a mountain, Peter, James, and John.

He's transfigured.

His face is shining like the light.

The disciples see this, and they're coming back down the mountain, and they're puzzled because they ask him, hey, we thought that, well, well, the prophecy teachers of the day told us that Elijah would come first.

But you're already here.

You're obviously the Messiah.

So how come Elijah didn't come first?

And he said, well, Elijah did.

You just missed it because you were looking for that Elijah, but you missed the whole message that John the Baptist was giving in the spirit and the power of Elijah.

So that's a very quick example of we can be looking for this.

It's got to look like that.

It's got to be in this size and everything else.

And the whole time, God's doing exactly what he would say, just not in the way that we were looking for.

So, as I said yesterday, it's very important that as we read these prophecies, you know, we interpret them.

We think they're going to happen this way based on what we see going on in the world today.

But sometimes, and maybe even a lot of times, it doesn't happen the way we think.

It just happens exactly the way God said.

And it's usually after it's happened that we can look and say, oh, okay, yeah, I see it now.

So, that's an example.

And that is very important, I believe, in going forward

when we see all these things happening in the world.

So I often have thought if you were alive

during Hitler's reign, especially if you were, you know, had a front row seat to it, you had to have thought Jesus is coming soon.

But there were a lot of things that had not been accomplished.

For instance, the reestablishment of Israel and then the gathering of Israel.

And so, you know, if you knew your scriptures, you would go, well, no, I don't think so, but it could happen quickly.

But now a lot of really big things have happened.

What big prophecies have been fulfilled, and what is still out there that we should be watching for?

Well, you mentioned the reestablishment of the nation of Israel in 48,

the

capturing of the old city and the reunification of Jerusalem in 67, which at that point gave Jews access to the Temple Mount, although temporarily.

So the regathering of Israel is a big one, and I might say that that one is still ongoing.

Yes.

And it has not yet come to its ultimate fruition.

And

what does it mean, the gathering of or regathering of Israel?

What does that mean exactly?

Well, very long story short,

because of transgression, because of rebellion, because of all these different sins, Israel was exiled.

And to this day, a lot of Israel is still scattered through the nations.

And so there are these multiple prophecies of how in the last days God will gather all of Israel into the land to the point, and this is the way Jeremiah puts it, that they will no longer talk about the exodus out of Egypt, but they'll talk about the exodus from all these different nations.

And because we aren't talking in those terms just yet, that tells me it has not yet come to its ultimate fulfillment.

But we're going to talk about in just a couple of days how God brought his people out of Egypt.

So it's an ongoing thing, but that's a really big one.

But there are other things that are happening right now.

I think the Gazan war is something that is very significant because there are prophecies about Gaza, about the land of the Philistines.

I think this war has the potential.

I'm not going to make the prediction, but it has the potential to lead into other things.

The attack the other night by Iran was said to be at least

affiliated with what's going on in Gaza and these kinds of things.

So there are things going on right now that do

set the stage potentially for some things to happen, and that makes our day a little different right now.

What

you're saying that Gaza could turn into?

What are you referring to?

Well, again, there are different prophecies about Gaza how it's going to be you know destroyed basically

but here is the thing that jumps out at me it's the fact that Hamas has played such a big role

the Bible names Hamas by name There are prophecies against Edom and Esau, and it says, because of the Hamas that you've committed against your brother Jacob, which is translated violence, I'm going to deal with you.

In Obadiah, it says, because you committed Hamas against your brother Jacob, I'm going to deal with you.

In Genesis, before the days of Noah leading up to the flood, it says that Hamas filled the earth.

So I do not believe that that is just some cosmic coincidence.

That's God way before any of this, you know, we were even thought of.

God's already telling us things in the beginning to be on the lookout in the end.

So the fact that Hamas has been the instigator, the primary instigator,

as it relates to what's going on in the Gazan war right now, To me, it's something that's very, very important.

And that means that it has the potential to expand into other things, other prophecies that talk about the destruction of Damascus and leading all the way up to what a lot of people are looking for, the war of Gog and Magog.

So all that is on the table as a possibility.

Is it going to happen right now?

Again, I don't know.

There are things that are happening that could lead to these more

dramatic events.

So anyway, that's

what I mean by the Gazan thing.

The destruction in Syria, Damascus could happen overnight.

The return of

the Jews to Israel, you would think that would be almost impossible.

But

one of the things I've been thinking lately,

disconnected from end time stuff, is if I were a Jew today and I saw the whole world starting to heat up like this, there would come a time when I'd be like, you know, I'm going to just, I'm going to Israel because I'm at least going to stand with my own people because it's the only place where I may not be persecuted, you know, without a shot of standing up.

Well, and I think that

this is going to sound maybe a little bizarre, but God's way

is to put pressure on people

to move them into the place that he wants them to be.

I mean, that's just a plain simple fact.

So

I don't discount that at all.

I think that as these things begin to unfold, it's going to become increasingly unpopular in the world to be Jewish, to be associated with Israel, to stand with Israel.

But at the same time,

God uses that pressure to kind of put people in the position that he wants them to be to kind of force his will.

And it's always going to be for the best interests of his people, but it doesn't feel very good at the time when you're being subjected to all that pressure.

Do Iran and Russia and their alliance play a role in prophecy?

Well, a lot of people think so.

I'm one of those.

And based primarily in what you're reading, Ezekiel 38 and 9, this is the war I mentioned briefly a moment ago, the war of Gog and Magog, right?

And so if you think, if you read the prophecy, we don't have time to do that today, but if you think that Russia is the land of Magog, then I'd say yes.

In fact, that prophecy talks about how this chief prince, this ruler over the land of Magog is going to come from the far north.

Well, if you start in Israel and go north, if you go to the far north, you're in Russia.

So it seems like that Russia would be involved.

And of course, the old Soviet Union was never a friend to Israel.

It was always aligned with Israel's enemies.

If I were Netanyahu, I wouldn't trust Putin as far as I can spit.

So, you know, Russia is, you know, not a good guy in this regard.

And then when you read that prophecy in Ezekiel 38, 9, you'll see that among the Confederates, the first one is mentioned is Persia, which is, of course, the ancient name for Iran.

Just kind of a sidebar here, interesting to me anyway, the name Iran, or the modern name Iran, is derived from the word Aryan.

Maybe that should tell you something.

Yeah, I've always thought so.

Before we get into the Ark of the Covenant, which I just find fascinating,

you said

that we need to watch out for Esau.

Who's Esau in the Bible and in modern times?

Well, Esau, of course, was the older brother of Jacob.

He's all red and hairy, and he's impulsive, and he's a hunter, and all these kinds of things.

And he has no regard for the birthright.

He has no regard for the covenant that God made with Abraham.

Jacob is the more temperate one.

He values these things that are eternal.

So when Jacob obtained the blessing of his father Isaac, Esau vowed to kill him.

So as you read ahead into prophecy, you will see that even though the man Esau died, God still addresses Esau, also known as Edom, you know, centuries later, because of your hatred towards your brother, because of the Hamash you commit towards your brother.

I'm going to deal with you in the end.

And so to me, today,

Esau is epitomized in those people, like Hamas, like Hezbollah.

They have this ancient hatred, and that's the way it's termed in Ezekiel chapter 35.

And I would even include, Glenn, within that mix, all of these people that are getting on the Golden Gate Bridge and stopping traffic and doing all these protests and standing outside New York University last night and, you know, chanting death to America in Dearborn, Michigan.

I would include that in the people that are identified as Esau from a biblical point of view, not so much because they're descended from the man.

No, but because of their mindset.

Their hatred, their unreasonable hatred.

Correct.

Okay, when we come back, let me take a one-minute break and then we're going to talk about the rebuilding of the temple and the Ark of the Covenant.

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Okay, so does the dome of the rock have to be destroyed for the third temple?

That's what most people think when they consider

a rebuilding of the temple.

Although not everybody thinks that that is necessary.

And because there is some dispute about where the temple actually sat, where the Holy of Holies was, there's a lot of religious Jews that believe it's where the dome of the rock is.

There was a gentleman, excuse me, back in the late 80s, early 90s, he was a professor at the Hebrew University.

He felt that the Holy of Holies actually was a little north of the Dome of the Rock under a place or at a place called the Dome of the Tablets and the Spirits.

So most people believe that the Dome of the Rock has to go.

There are some who believe that it's possible that the temple could have sat just north and, technically speaking, could be on the same platform.

There's even a passage in Revelation chapter 11 where John is told to measure the temple of God and the altar, but to leave the court outside, leave that out

to the Gentiles.

So some people have thought, well, maybe that is suggesting that there's going to be a temple alongside either the Dome of the Rock or the Alaska Mosque.

You know, I don't know.

I find that problematic for a lot of reasons but i guess

yeah yeah yeah it's kind of like the burning of the red heifer right there you know in uh in arab territory might might be a problem with that um that's right so

the ark of the covenant is where they kept the ten commandments and i know it was real i know it existed but i never ever really thought we're gonna find that

We're going to find that?

Is that important for the rebuilding of the temple?

Well, technically speaking, the second temple, this is the one that was built after the Babylonian captivity, and then Herod expanded it.

That one did not have the Ark of the Covenant in it.

And, you know, it was still considered the house of God.

So there is historical precedent for building the temple and not having the Ark.

However, there's prophecies that talk about how the glory of the latter house is going to be greater than the first one, referring to Solomon's, which had the Ark of the Covenant.

So technically, they could rebuild it without the Ark.

However,

there have been those in Israel since the

reunification of Jerusalem who, you know, not only do they want to build a temple on the Temple Mount, but they want to find the Ark of the Covenant.

And there are a lot of traditions as to what happened to the Ark of the Covenant.

Some say that it went to Ethiopia, which I don't believe.

Some people say that Jeremiah hid it in Mount Nebo, which is in Jordan.

Some people believe that it is outside of the old city buried.

And then there are quite a number of people

and particularly people close to

the idea of rebuilding the temple who believe that it's buried somewhere underneath the temple mount.

That's not really a big secret, honestly.

It's all over the internet.

But I find that, you know, if you know anything about the temple mount, and well,

can you hold on just a second?

We'll come back to this here in just a second because there's supposed to be a labyrinth of

tunnels underneath, et cetera, et cetera.

But I can't see how those haven't been, you know, exhaustively gone through by those of the Muslim religion.

We'll get more on this here in just a second.

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We're glad you're here.

We're talking to Bill Cloud

as Passover comes up on Monday.

We're talking about biblical prophecies because there's a lot of stuff happening in the world right now where a lot of people are going, you know, I think I've read about this someplace before,

but no man knows when.

I mean, it could be a thousand years from now,

but it will happen at some point.

And we need to be aware.

And I want to make this really clear.

And Bill, I think you'll back me up on this.

The Lord was not, he didn't look at scriptures and go, man, it just doesn't have a snappy ending.

I want part two of this.

So let me leave him on a scary cliffhanger.

The book of Revelation was written not to scare us, but to say, look, all of these things will come to pass.

And it's almost, I think it's a blessing that he says, and, you know, at this point,

the seven-year clock starts to tick off.

And he's telling us,

I'm not, don't be shocked by these things.

They're going to be bad and they're going to seem like they're never ending, but they're not.

And I'm telling you these things so you have faith and can make it through those times.

Is that how you read it?

Absolutely.

When you go to the book of Revelation, by the way, and you look at the heading, it says the revelation of Jesus Christ.

It does not say the revelation of the Antichrist or the tribulation or bold judgments and vile judgments.

It's about the Messiah.

In fact, it says in that book that the essence of prophecy is the testimony of Messiah.

The spirit of prophecy is about the Messiah.

So everything about all this bad stuff, ultimately, it's going to point us to the Messiah because because all the bad stuff is just the satan and those who practice wickedness trying to stop the messiah from returning and sitting upon his throne in jerusalem to rule and reign so yeah it doesn't end on a bad note it ends on the on what mankind those who love righteousness and holiness have been longing for since adam was exiled from the garden a return to be to to be with God and God be in our midst.

So that's the greatest thing that we could ever hope for.

And all these things that we see are pointing us to that.

So it's an excellent observation on your part.

He tells us these things.

In fact, when he sat down on the Mount of Olives with his disciples, this is in Matthew 24.

By the way, the Mount of Olives is where they'll burn that red heifer when they do it.

But anyway, he sits down on the Mount of Olives and he says, basically, I'm telling you all these things, as you said,

so that you'll know this is going to happen, but don't be dismayed.

Don't fall in despair.

I'm telling you these things so that you will not be deceived.

I'm telling you these things in advance so you won't be impulsive and go running after things that you shouldn't go running after.

So, when these things happen, keep your focus.

Stay, you know, kind of stay the course on what you know is right to do.

So, I absolutely agree with you.

Um,

growing lawlessness is a sign of the last days, and we're seeing lawlessness like I've never seen before.

Now, this has happened over and over again where societies become lawless and they collapse.

Um,

But lawlessness in the last days,

it gives birth to the lawless one,

which is the Antichrist, right?

Right, exactly.

You know, that's exactly right.

You know, a lot of people have thought that the Antichrist will come to power and he'll create this lawless environment.

I believe the Bible teaches that a lawless environment gives birth to the lawless one, the son of perdition, the Antichrist.

To me, that

makes sense.

I mean,

it was about 2006.

I was talking to Conda Lisa Rice, and she used very specific language.

She was on my show, and we were talking about

what things look like now and what's coming our way.

And she said, these things

are birth pangs of the things to come.

And I thought that was

rather unusual language for somebody to use

because it's very scriptural.

Yeah, that's biblical language for sure.

Yeah, it is.

And

we are giving birth to something.

I don't know if it's the

Antichrist or the end times or just really, really bad times.

But

everything that we're seeing, these are like contractions and birth pangs.

When things happen, you're like, ow, that hurt.

And they're becoming faster and faster and closer and closer to one another we are giving birth to something

well in hebrew it's called cheble mashiach it's the birth pangs of the messiah the messiah is you know and his rule and reign over the earth that's what is that's what's being birthed that's what's coming to fruition it's just in the process the earth and everybody in it has to go through these birth pangs Paul talks about how the earth is groaning and producing this travail and these birth pangs so that the sons of God God will be revealed.

So that goes hand in glove with the Messiah, his return.

So that's what's being birthed.

But just like in any birth of something that is wonderful, there's all this yuckiness and all this pain and suffering.

And unfortunately, that pressure has to be there to get those who are listening to the voice of the Lord in the place that he wants them to be.

And that is not giving into the lawlessness, not giving into the just crazy stuff that society is pushing down our throats, but to stand true based on what scripture says.

So that's what's being birthed as far as I'm concerned.

So let me go back to the Ark of the Covenant because it seems almost like, it just seems like an Indiana Jones movie.

It doesn't even seem real in some ways.

I know it is, or I know it was, but then it just kind of disappeared.

Nobody really knows what happened to it.

People have been looking for it forever.

And people are saying that it's going to be really revealed, and some people believe it's under the Temple Mount.

I've stood at the place where they say right behind these stones is where they think the Holy of Holies is, which is where the Ark of the Covenant would be.

And

it's a labyrinth of passageways and everything underneath there, at least it used to be.

But why would it how could it possibly still be there

when

the Muslims have been digging underneath the Temple Mount for a long time and taking truckloads of dirt and

antiquities out and just dumping them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, how could it still be there?

I don't know that I have the answer to that question.

I'll just say my faith would say that if God wanted it to be there, it's still there.

He has a way of watching over things.

But is it prophesied that it will be found and come back, or is this just something that some people think?

Well, the last time you see or you see a mention of the Ark of the Covenant is when Josiah tells the priest to take the Ark of the Covenant and put it in the house that Solomon had prepared for it.

And by the way, there are people who read into that.

Well, the Ark of the Covenant was already in the temple.

What is Josiah saying?

And some people say, well,

he was hiding it because he knew the Babylonians were coming.

And that's where some people think it's hidden in somewhere around Jerusalem.

Most people, people, you know, close to the temple or rebuilt temple motivation think that it's underneath the temple mount.

But

it disappears from the record, is the point.

And the next time you see anything mentioned, it's in the book of Revelation, actually,

after all this other stuff is over with, all the bad stuff.

So, yeah, it is a big mystery.

I will tell you a quick story.

92,

I, another gentleman, along with an Israeli friend, we went to the office of Rabbi Yehuda Goetz, who at that time was over all of the holy places in Jerusalem.

And to make a very long story short,

Rabbi Goetz did not believe that the Ark of the Covenant was in Ethiopia.

He did not believe it was at Mount Nebo.

He felt very confident he knew where the Ark of the Covenant was.

And he did not tell us, but our Israeli friend later told us that in the early 80s, Yehuda Getz, along with Shlomo Gorin and a lot of

the men who were participants in the reunification of Jerusalem in 67, actually, when these excavations begun, they were looking for the Ark of the Covenant because they believed that it was under the Temple Mount somewhere.

I've even heard reports that Yehuda Getz supposedly saw the place where it was kept.

Now, I don't know that to be a fact.

So there are people who do believe it still exists.

There are people that are in Jerusalem who would love for that to be revealed.

And I would suggest that if that were to happen, you think the red heifer is going to call it.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my God.

I mean, I can't imagine how that could be revealed and the whole world not taking real significant note.

Whether you believe that the, you know, what's ever in it are, you know, are the remnants of the Ten Commandments or not, it doesn't matter.

For the Ark of the Covenant to be revealed and come back, that

would say a lot about Israel, about Jerusalem, about the times we live in.

I mean, pretty much everything.

Pretty much everything.

Well,

if it still exists, and this is just my opinion, that's all it is, just an opinion.

I tend to believe that if it exists and is going to be revealed, then it's probably going to coincide with the messianic age, with the massage regime.

And, you know, I think that would probably be more likely.

But that doesn't mean that there aren't people who would

be very, very excited

to have an opportunity to find it, look for it, and if they could, bring it out.

And,

you know, that would cause World War III, most likely.

It probably would.

It's weird, Bill.

When you're over there, you don't understand how this little patch of land has caused so much turmoil, really, in the world, why everybody seems to be

centered on that patch of land because it's not very big.

And it's almost like it's a pulse.

You can feel it.

That temple mount, there's something about that area.

It's God's throne, and you can feel it.

Exactly.

It's amazing.

Exactly.

It's amazing.

Well, and

that, what you just said is even prophetic.

You know, prophecy says that he's going to make Jerusalem a

burdensome stuff.

And even more so, the Temple Mount, because that is where God's presence kissed the earth.

That was

where the Ark of the Covenant basically was God's throne on earth.

So, yeah, it's a very contested piece of property, and it will be at the heart of the conflict.

Yes.

Bill Cloud, thank you so much.

If you'd like to follow him, you can find him on his website at billcloud.org.

That's billcloud.org.

He's been teaching this stuff for a very, very long time.

Bill, thank you so much.

God bless you.

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Well,

today is

an interesting day here at the studios.

There's a handful of us that are getting a

private briefing from the state of Israel on

October 7th and some of the other things that are going on.

And Stu, as courageous as always, is like,

I don't want to see that.

I don't want to see that.

I know.

I know.

I know you.

I don't want to see it.

I know what it is.

I don't need to see it.

Yeah.

Pat and I are going to are both going to see it.

And there's several people on the research staff that are going to see it.

I think it's good.

I am concerned about what tomorrow's show feels like, though, after you watch,

I mean, basically, mass murder in real life on video.

I feel like that's going to maybe make the Friday show not so fun.

Well, that would be your job.

Make fun.

So just bring the fun as you're like crying about.

Bring the fun.

No,

I don't want it to affect, you know,

I probably, well, I know I will.

I'll talk about, you know, whatever I can talk about.

I think it's going to be hard to just emotionally overcome that.

I'd rather have you watching on a Friday, have it ruin your weekend.

But that wasn't an option, unfortunately.

When they come, they come.

This is the October 7th thing you're talking about.

This is the thing that the Jews say a bunch of people were murdered.

Thank you.

New York Times reporter?

Yeah, because I was reading the New York Times.

They say they're talking about the Columbia guy, professor.

So the president also disclosed that the university was investigating Joseph Mossad, who used the word awesome to describe the October 7th attack led by Hamas.

That Israel says killed 1,200 people.

Oh, that's what Israel does say.

Now, I thought there there was mountains of evidence, some of which you're going to see today, but no, apparently just

Israel saying it.

Israel saying it, yeah.

So yeah, that go for us.

Also, I'm doing an interview here in a few minutes.

It's a weird day with the people that did the octopus murders.

Oh, this is the Netflix show you're talking about?

My.

Documentary, right?

Yeah.

Okay.

A five-part documentary, really, really interesting.

You never really know what's happening, and then when you think you know, comes the fifth episode, and you're like,

and I just don't know what to take from it.

And

it's just fascinating, but it is a deep, deep, deep dive into conspiracy land.

I want you to know you've been selling this to me, and it's now going on my list.

I've got a TV, movies, documentary list that I keep that all the stuff that I really want to watch, but I never get to.

Wow.

It's going on the list.

It's going on the list.

Yes, you've made it.

You've made it.

That's good.

I've got that watch list too.

You do?

Yeah.

Never get to any of them.

No.

No.

Go through it.

I'll be like, yeah, when did I put that on?

I don't know if I really.

Well, leave it there.

And never get to it.

You know what?

One of the first things on my list is mad men.

I've never

seen mad men.

I'm watching my list, too.

Never watch it.

No.

I gotta watch that someday.

Someday I'll watch it.

All nine seasons of it.

It's on my list.

Okay.

It's the first thing on my list.

All right.

Any day now, Glenn.

Any day now.

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