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I want to talk to Gen Zs.

I'm going to talk to the people who are going out to work.

I've seen some things on social media, and I think they're getting a bad rap, but...

I think they also don't understand what has happened and what the cause of these problems are.

The problems are real that they're feeling

and I actually feel for them.

I would hate to be their age with

everything they have gone through already trying to navigate this insane world.

Now they're going out and they can't find work.

So

whose fault is that?

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I'll tell them in 60 seconds.

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So I wanted you to

three cuts from

some Gen Zers.

And if you are, you know, if you are my age,

you're going to have a hard time with what they're saying.

But before you go off on them,

let me address it.

Okay.

Here's what some Gen Zers are saying about working nine to five.

Working a nine to five is the biggest fing scam out there.

The biggest scam.

How the fk do you want to sit here and tell me that I work every day of my life, every fing day, but I still don't have enough to pay my bills?

How?

How?

And before you say, oh, get a better job,

I have had four jobs.

Four different, completely different types of jobs.

All different pays.

And how are you going to tell me none of those four jobs could pay my bills?

Okay, stop.

When I saw this one, if you happen to be watching us,

she has

clown red hair and green

fingernails that are about two inches long.

And I would not take her seriously in any job.

So because of the way she looks, I'm sorry, but this is part of our society.

Based on the way you look, you're going to have a harder time finding a job or getting a good paying job if nobody, if people look at you and don't take you seriously.

because you look like a marvel villain yes you look like a marvel villain thank you um

but what she's saying here is how am i supposed to do this okay i understand that i really do understand that and i'll explain why here in just a second let me play uh cut three please i am a gen zier who got her first like corporate in-office adult nine-to-five job this year and i was actually really excited about it because it was a marketing position in a healthcare company so i thought it was going to be really great and i get that the company itself ended up being like horribly toxic but I also made the decision within only four months of working there that if I had to do this like corporate drone thing for the rest of my life because I did the math you couldn't retire in this economy I just like would rather clock out eternally like there were people in their 40s at the company making the same amount of money as me like still in the same struggling to get by position and I was like is this this is it this is life because I would rather just like tap out right now.

I tried to keep pushing through with blind optimism, but it was like so soul crushing that nine months in, I just had to wake up and be like, Hey, is this the life you want to keep living?

and the answer was like, No, I don't want to do this.

So, I had to leave for my own health reasons, ironically.

And I've sadly been happier doing odd jobs here and there, struggling to pay bills and just living life and having fun.

And everyone keeps asking, What's your plan?

What are you going to do?

I don't know what the plan is, but I know if I have to go back to that corporate and office nine to five, like I won't be alive a year from that date.

Okay,

another perspective: life is not worth living if you're doing this.

But she's not blaming everybody for it, and she's found a way that will make her happy.

She's going to do part-time jobs and struggle.

Okay,

that's a choice.

Not one that I would choose, but I'm not her.

And there is this

movement now, and

I think it's actually kind of right

of going back to things that are basic.

You know, we were, in my generation, promised everything.

And we stupidly bought that from politicians.

You can't have everything.

You can't do everything.

It just destroys, well, everything in the end.

But she's not angry.

She's a little nihilistic, but she's not angry about it.

And she mentioned people in their 40s are doing exactly the same thing, same thing.

So it's not us against them.

All right.

Here's the last one.

It took me five months to get my job.

It took me five months of sending out hundreds of applications every single day, probably.

I probably have 10,000 applications out there and I heard back from one employer and that's the employer I work for now.

I had to move for that job.

I had to move to New Jersey because I can't afford to live in New York.

The job was set in New York and I immediately had to move or else I knew that I wasn't going to get my foot in the door if I waited any longer.

My commute is two hours there and two hours back.

I said 6.15 earliest and I sometimes get back at 7.30.

It really just depends on the trains that day.

So me, I'm just one worker.

I shouldn't represent everybody because I don't even have half the struggles that most people do.

Most people have kids and animals.

Imagine me leaving a dog or a kid at home from 7.30 in the morning to 7.30 at night.

That's animal and child abuse, but I have to work.

So there's nothing I can do about it.

My job in general, I am so extremely thankful that my employer actually decided to reach back out to me because a lot of them don't because they don't want to train a college graduate.

And that's the problem.

Post-grads are having so much difficulty finding a nine-to-five.

nine-to-five, and then when we do get thrown into a nine-to-five, we don't know how to handle it because, one, college doesn't set us up for that type of schedule, it's not a normal schedule that a human should be on, anyway.

So, your body isn't used to that.

I, we were all in during COVID, we all had to go remote.

So, my high school was remote, and part of my college was remote.

Obviously, I'm not used to working a nine-to-five schedule because I'm not used to being anywhere from nine to five during the day.

I can't even imagine the working parents out there, and like it, I give so much grace to them because it's incredibly hard in America to be emotionally and mentally stable when your days are structured like that.

Okay.

Okay.

Now,

maybe it's just me,

but my first response is, suck it up, buttercup.

This is what life is like.

Do you think your parents wanted to do this?

I get up every day not wanting to go to work.

Okay.

I think a lot of people do that.

You're very, very fortunate if you get up and every day you're like, yeah, I can't wait to go to work.

Okay.

Very fortunate.

Very fortunate.

Life is tough.

Things are really tough right now, unlike anything I've ever seen in my lifetime.

There's a couple of stories that I want to give you because I actually, my first response is suck it up.

But my second response is, wait a minute.

They have never been forced to do anything.

We have given everybody trophies.

So they're coming into this with a completely different mindset.

I mean, in my generation, you didn't have a choice.

You just did whatever it was that you were going to do.

And you didn't ever, my God, going to my parents or my grandparents and saying, you know, I'm just not used to working nine to five.

My grandfather, especially, my grandmother, who lived through the Depression, would have looked at me like I was from an alien world.

I'm sorry, what?

But our kids haven't been forced to work.

They haven't done anything.

And we, as parents, have created this by coddling them.

They haven't had to earn

anything.

And we get up every day and ask them, How do you feel, sweetheart?

How you feeling?

How you feeling?

I don't think my parents or my grandparents ever asked me that unless I was in the hospital.

How you feeling?

Pretty good.

That's what, that's how you would respond.

In the hospital.

Pretty good.

He didn't ask me when I got up in the morning.

How you feeling, sweetie?

Oh, I don't know.

I'm kind of down.

Are you depressed?

Have you thought about suicide lately?

Never.

Never.

But let me give you a couple of stories that

I want you to see their side of things.

And it's really your side too, honestly, but they don't think so necessarily.

McDonald's menu prices have increased by over 100% in the last 10 years.

100%.

Can you tell me the last time you have seen a McDonald's menu go up 100%

in cost?

I haven't.

I haven't.

I'm still shocked.

every time I go into McDonald's or Wendy's and I'm like, wait, am I paying for everybody behind me too?

It's shocking.

There's another story out now.

Olive Garden is too expensive if you're making less than $75,000 a year.

Olive Garden

is too expensive if you're making less than $75K.

Olive Garden.

Olive Garden is one of those places that when you were 20, you would take somebody out to a date at.

And it wasn't like really expensive.

It wasn't a nice restaurant.

It was just a place where you could go.

You could take a date and you could have all you could eat.

More bread than you could possibly ever consume.

That's crazy.

You can't afford a house.

When I was 20, I couldn't afford a house either at that time.

I could barely afford rent because you had entry-level jobs.

You have to work several years to be able to get up to that point.

But that's the way it was in the 80s for me.

But it's not the same.

Now,

you know, you could be 40 and still not afford a house.

You could be 60 and not afford a house now.

So it is different.

Olive Garden and places like that were affordable.

Now that's not affordable.

That's not luxury.

McDonald's is not luxury, but it's quickly becoming one.

Now, Gen Z is upset about this, and I think rightfully so.

But many Gen Zs are blaming older people for this condition.

And in some ways, they have a point.

For the most part, they don't.

We have been lied to just as they have been lied to.

But I guess we should have known better.

But we didn't.

We didn't.

But let me explain something to the Gen Zers because

I don't get mad at them for feeling this way.

Because I was mad at, you know, I blamed everything on my parents until I was 30.

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This is normal.

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So, let me speak to Gen Gen Zers here.

I can't imagine what you're going through.

I would hate to be in your position.

When I was your age, we didn't have to deal with any of this stuff.

Your life has been tough.

And at the same time,

in comparison, your life has been very easy.

And what I say, what I mean by that is your early life as a child was was very easy in some ways because everybody was rushing to you know save you protect you etc etc which makes your life harder now

you know

when we fell down and went boom

you know our parents were like oh Locus Lucus just went boom

and they knew that would help us not cry Right now, your parents have most likely been involved in everything.

Your counselors at school have been involved in everything, and everybody is making sure that you feel great all the time, which doesn't make you feel great.

You've grown up with social media, which doesn't make you feel great.

You've grown up with literally the definition of narcissism, somebody gazing into the pond, looking at themselves all the time.

You've had that.

And

this system of

a self-facing cell phone

has and I don't mean this as offense because everybody has experienced this this is not just Gen Zers but we've become narcissists and it's all about me me me me me

so you've you've already navigated landscape that we didn't have to you navigated landscape where nothing is true and you don't trust anybody.

I wouldn't either.

I don't anymore.

But life is worth it.

That's the first thing.

Life is really tough, really tough, but it is worth it in the end.

But life is not about stuff.

And

as a guy who's kind of a pack rat,

I can tell you that none of that stuff will create happiness in your life.

And I think your generation has a better handle on happiness in some ways than anybody in my generation.

You're starting to realize that, hey, pharmaceuticals, maybe not as good as natural.

The big, huge house, maybe not as needed as just having a smaller house and then living your life instead of having to work all the time.

and never going to experience it.

My friends always say, Glenn, you've worked your whole life.

You should go travel the world.

I can't.

I can't because I'm working.

And so I think you have a better

balance, at least on what you want.

However,

there are some things that you have now been brought up to believe that are true that are not true.

For instance,

DEI and

CRT and all of this crap, you know, reimagining the police.

There are bad police out there.

There are.

But

when you reimagine the police in a way where no police officers want to work in your city, you get looters and squatters and riots.

And that feeds on itself, especially when your politicians convince you that the right thing to do is to show compassion and say, oh, well, wait a minute, maybe they were disadvantaged in some way or another.

And so we're not going to put any of these people in jail or hold them.

And they commit crime after crime after crime.

And it becomes organized crime.

That's what's happening.

And somebody has to pay for that.

So when your Walgreens goes out of business in your neighborhood, it's harder on you.

When they have to pay more for insurance because people keep robbing them, well, then everything in that store goes up in price.

When politicians convince you that minimum wage should be $25 an hour, I've heard $50 lately, that means the price of your hamburger and everything else is going to go up and so it affects you.

Who pays for these things?

Actions by politicians have consequences.

You can't afford health care.

You can't afford a house.

You can't really afford even food.

I understand, and that is real, and it shouldn't be that way.

But give me five minutes, and perhaps you'll look at it in a different way so we can fix it together.

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that feel like it's not worth even trying to go to work because you'll never get anywhere.

You can't afford, you work full-time 40-hour a week, you still can't afford a place to live.

You're still living with your parents.

You can't afford food.

And I think they're right to feel this way.

That wasn't always the case.

But I want them to know that

I blame a lot of it on the hippies, and that may be wrong, but I hate hippies.

Hippies have been screwing things up since the 1960s, and they have been on this socialist march and they have become everything that they said they despised back in the 1960s.

They have been liars and politicians and

they have become greedy for themselves and they just won't let go.

Their time is past.

But these are the people that have come up with all the of these policies that now you feel like this is the way the world is.

It doesn't have to be this way.

And I was talking about crime, looters, squatters, riots.

Somebody has to pay for that.

Actions have consequences.

Votes have consequences.

You say you can't afford health care.

I understand that.

That's crazy.

Crazy.

My own company used to provide the best health care insurance in all of New York City and New York State.

At one point after Obamacare passed, they were taxing us, you know, Cadillac Cadillac taxes.

I was the only company that still carried that until the insurance company stopped carrying it.

Why?

Since Obamacare passed, health care costs have gone up 55%

for the average premium.

That's without inflation figured in.

13,000 to 21,000.

But that's just from 2013 to 2020.

That doesn't include the last three years.

Since Biden has entered office, it's up again from $21,000 to $24,000 a year.

That is an increase of 80%.

But you have to remember, politicians promised that if we pass this big government program, it would mean a savings of $2,500 per family.

I mean, you're in school, you know, $2,500 savings is not the same as an 80%

increase.

Hospitals.

Your hospital stay is up 210%.

I understand you can't afford.

I can't afford health care.

These costs to you.

Who can afford health care?

Who can afford insurance?

You also are starting your life thousands of dollars in debt.

Your parents didn't have to have that.

They didn't.

You could take a job and work a job to pay for your college as you went.

You can't do that now.

When they took out their loans, most likely the government wasn't behind their loans.

Once that happened, Once the government said, you know what, we're going to guarantee all the loans.

Once that happened, like healthcare, the cost of going to a university skyrocketed and it hasn't stopped.

In 1965, it was Lyndon B.

Johnson who said, we're going to just guarantee.

We're going to guarantee everybody's college.

Don't worry about it.

We'll help you with the loan.

Well, once the government guaranteed it,

universities found, well, we can just charge more and they have been charging more and more.

In 1965,

It was $450 a year to go to college.

Now, let's change with inflation.

With inflation, that's $4,000 a year.

You're currently paying on the average $26,000 a year

as opposed to inflation-adjusted $4,000.

What happened?

What happened?

By the way, books, the cost of books up 155%.

Gas, gas is up.

Why?

Government regulations.

Can't afford a house?

Well, that's due to several things.

Many of them revolve around

the

Fed and our debt.

Look, you have been fed lies

probably your whole life, and your parents just realized it during COVID.

Okay?

There's something called common sense, and hopefully you have it.

Hopefully it hasn't been beaten out of you in

these

indoctrination camps we call schools.

The U.S.

government has run a debt, and we have been concerned about it forever, but they haven't been listening to your mom and dad and people like me.

They haven't been listening.

And a lot of people just thought, oh, well, we could get away with it.

And somehow or another,

It will all work out.

And many of us have been saying, no, we can't pass this on to our children.

And you're now seeing what we have passed on.

So when you say, Generation Z, that, you know,

this is, you know, the adults, you created this world, in some ways, yeah, you're right.

You're right.

We were lied to.

And as many people do, they want to believe the lie.

Because it makes them feel better.

Quite honestly,

it's what's happening in your generation with

that's a female when it's not, it's a male.

And he feels like a female.

He wants to be a female, but it makes us feel better to go along with the lie because we don't want to hurt his feelings.

That's the same thing that happened, except this time it was with money.

We wanted to believe that we could spend all this money because

honestly, it would provide you, our children, with a better life.

And when anybody said, wait, we're going to have to pay this off.

This is going to cost them.

We never saw the consequence and it was always way out in the future.

Nobody wanted to listen to the doomsday people saying, no, it's going to come faster than you think.

And that time is right now.

Our government now is printing $1 trillion

every 100 days.

It's never been done.

We have more debt than any country has ever had in the history of the world.

But we're not alone.

Every country is doing this.

They're going into debt like we've never seen before.

And we're all about to pay for that.

And it's going to make your life even harder.

That's why

Real true constitutional conservatives, okay?

And

you have to understand that everything

is being cut into fractions now.

There are Marxists and there are decent Democrats that still believe in the Constitution and the rule of law.

There are Republicans that still believe in spending all kinds of money, getting us involved in every war around.

And then there are constitutional

conservatives that believe that we should conserve the things that have worked, throw out the things that don't work, but we can only do those things that are allowed by our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.

You haven't really learned about those most likely, but you should, because

all of our problems are caused by government and the people supporting a government that will do things that are not in our Constitution.

But that's what this election is really all about.

And

you might say, I don't really care.

I don't really care.

I don't like either of them.

I know a lot of people don't like either of them.

But one

is going to try

to cut the size of this government down, which is causing the problems.

All of these programs, all of the things that we've said we wanted.

You know, your parents can't retire now.

You know, you have the opportunity that they didn't.

They were promised, I was promised, that we could retire at 65 and we'd get Social Security and we could live off that.

There's no way you could live off that.

You, if you look at the bright side,

you're paying for Social Security now, but at least you know you're never going to get it.

I'm probably the first generation.

that knows we're not going to get it.

We're not.

It was a lie.

But all of the people that are older than I am

they didn't necessarily know it was a lie

and now they're stuck

and I know people think about retirement but honestly especially for guys if you retire you generally die

there is no such thing as retirement that doesn't mean you stay in the same job doing the same things

But you

you work.

You work it's something something that drives you, maybe if you're lucky, by the time you're older.

But

man's meant to work.

We have to find a way

to keep the people who have been raping this country and our treasury for so many years

away from you.

Because if they teach you, like they taught us, that all of this stuff will work,

you're only going to see much, much more pain.

So we have to try to protect you so you can do your things while we, my generation, stands between you and the older generation that just have raped, robbed, and pillaged through their hippie policies.

We say, stand back.

Enough is enough.

Enough is enough.

Let go.

My generation should not be the one that takes the power now.

Really, the younger generation, 30, 40 years old, they're the ones because they're going to have to live with it a lot longer than I am.

And the people who created it cannot fix it.

But it can be fixed.

You just have to learn enough about

The truth about why this has happened to us.

Why did we make it for so long?

Longer, this Constitution lasted longer than any other Constitution in the world.

The average is 17 years.

This thing has lasted hundreds of years.

Why?

How?

And why is it falling apart today?

That's what you should dedicate

some of your time to figuring out today.

Not just complaining.

You can complain.

I complain.

Everybody complains.

But learn what caused this.

And

if you end up thinking that Marxism is the solution, more collectivism is the solution, then you haven't done enough homework in the past.

Because that always ends the same way.

And the way that starts

at the end

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you know, Gen Z and,

you know, Stu

who shockingly is the get off my lawn kind of guy.

Because he's younger.

I don't mean to interrupt you, but just for record keeping, Sarah, can we get a receipt for that monologue?

Because it was the most charitable donation to any generation.

Blen needs to deduct that entire monologue.

No, I think it's true.

It's kind of true.

I mean, I will say I did hit your get off my lawn, suck it up buttercup reaction.

And that was my first reaction.

And it was also my second, third, and through the 18th reaction was all that.

You make a lot of good points there.

And I think that probably the top point that you make, maybe in a subtle fashion, is my approach is not going to work.

Like, if you just yell, get off my lawn at youngsters, they're never going to be won over to the conservative argument.

I get that.

And that's true.

You have to meet people where they are.

100% true.

And they do have, they are facing something that we never fought.

Even the greatest generation never faced this.

Even when, I mean, if you want to whine about having a hard time, talk to your grandparents or your great-grandparents.

The greatest generation, they went through the Great Depression.

They didn't have shoes, running water, electricity, none of that stuff.

And then Hitler.

So

Stalin.

Right.

And Stalin.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And Mao.

But yeah, no, I think they are dealing with different issues.

And if you just berate them for it, it's not going to be helpful.

Correct.

And most importantly here, they are facing something that even that generation didn't.

A complete loss of hope.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's true.

That's true.

That's completely different.

We all always had hope that tomorrow would be better.

They've been convinced that tomorrow is not going to get better.

That has to stop.

So the first thing we have to do is diagnose what the problem is and then show hope.

Because once you know what the problem is, you're going to have cancer.

If you know it's cancer and you know how to fix it, even if it's risky, you at least have some hope.

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hello America all right I want to I want you to repeat after me get

off

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we're gonna get it out of our system because we have to have a real productive conversation about something uh and everybody in the audience and apparently everybody in the building because they all came in from last hour's monologue uh just to to let me know,

I'm not as old as you are, old man, and I'm even shouting, get off my lawn.

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a couple of Gen Zers that are currently online.

Uh these are going viral.

Uh, this one came out April 2nd.

Here's a Gen Zer talking about life and how hard it is.

Working a nine-to-five is the biggest fing scam out there.

The biggest scam.

How the f do you want to sit here and tell me that I work every day of my life, every fing day, but I still don't have enough to pay my bills.

How?

How?

And before you say, oh, get a better job,

I have had four jobs.

Four different, completely different type of jobs.

All different pays.

And how are you going to tell me none of those four jobs could pay my bills?

It's a good point by the choker's mistress, but I don't think

necessarily.

If you happen to be watching Blaze TV, she has got, you know, candy cane hair or clown hair.

And I stand corrected.

I said last hour two inch nails.

They've got to be three to four inch nails.

that are neon green.

Perhaps one of the issues was she took a job typing and she was unable to complete the tasks.

And that's a fascinating thing to watch.

Now, one thing we should note to

our Gen Z friends is that when you talk about having four jobs, it's not necessarily quantity you're looking for.

Like

you're searching for quality, not quantity.

And, you know, you could say, well, she had four jobs, but I don't think she meant all at the same time.

No.

There are parents that work four jobs.

Oh, yeah.

My parents worked two jobs each

my whole life, really.

Okay.

They barely made it.

And they, well, they didn't have candy corn hair.

So I, I, you know, I don't, I don't know.

Now, go ahead.

Say what everybody's thinking.

Suck it up, buttercup.

You know what I mean?

You got to say it.

It's got to be part of

the equation.

And I will say, I think, like is the case when you talk to

a Hispanic American and they say to you, you know what pisses me off when everyone assumes I'm for illegal immigration?

And like the people who are toughest on the border tend to be legal immigrants from Latin America who are like, hey, I did this the right way.

Screw you.

I think a lot of Gen Zers look at people like this and say, wait a minute, don't paint my whole generation like this.

This is insanity.

Get off my lawn and suck it up.

Buttercup, get to work.

You know what?

Not every bill is going to be paid if you don't work hard.

And sometimes you'll work hard and it'll be difficult.

I know for a fact I went through a period, which was a lot of like, hey, if I have this credit card convenience check that I write to my rent this month, it should work out.

There were a lot of things that were very difficult as I came up.

I know the same is for you, even though you had success very early on in your career.

You blew it so many times.

You had plenty of struggle.

But I mean, I think everybody goes through that.

And I know I went into the workforce with the idea.

This is going to suck for a while.

That was really my attitude going in.

I'm going to work a lot and not make a lot of money.

When I started in radio, I was working as a promotions guy, which I made like $6 an hour.

I, and I only got paid for the, when the promotions were occurring, which was like a two-hour period.

And then all the other time that I worked with you and started my career, I made $0 an hour.

I went in there all the time and did and worked and worked and worked and worked for nothing until that changed, thankfully.

Now, if it never changed, it would have been, I would have had to change careers, but eventually it did.

But the mindset going in was this is going to suck for a while.

That, even if that's not true, that should be your mindset.

If you go in with a mindset of like, why are they not rewarding me for all of my wonders?

You're going to wind up disappointed very early in your life.

Now, may I just say that one of the reasons why people feel that way, Gen Zers, is because that's the way they've always been treated.

They've always been told, you're special.

My family, there were times when they said you're special and they didn't mean it like in a positive way.

Right.

You know what I mean?

Glenn might be special.

And, you know, we didn't get trophies for everything.

You had to earn things.

And they have been

coddled.

And I hate to say this if you're a Gen Zer because it's going to sound different coming from me than

what your experience might have been.

But you don't understand.

I, as a parent, know, because I saw the changes in our society.

It's always been this way for you.

And so you may not think I wasn't coddled because

your point of view is it's always been like this.

Everybody was treated like this.

Yeah, I know.

And that's one of the problems.

We bought into a lie from all of these so-called experts that said, oh, always ask your kids how they're feeling.

You know, you're expecting too much from your kids.

Don't push your kids.

You know, be there for them when they get a bad grade, all of that stuff.

and all of that was garbage and and a lie and then you went to a school where most likely they taught you even more lies and then they told you the lie your parents probably did society definitely did and schools certainly did that you can't make it unless you go to these very expensive colleges that's a lie that's a lie

You don't have to go to college.

And

I know

my kids, people were like, oh, so where are they going to go to college?

Where are they going to go?

I don't know.

They may not go to college.

Well, I think,

I mean, that's crazy.

You're going to

go to college.

Really?

I didn't.

I didn't at all.

And

turned out pretty well for me.

That was one of the most frustrating things listening to these.

these social media videos is that like they are like well i went to college and i've got all these loans and i and i can't make it and it's like well why are why are you blaming let's say society for that?

Why aren't you blaming colleges who, as you pointed out earlier, what was it, 200, or it was 160% increase in tuition over the past 20 years?

And what are they giving you for that?

This is the dumb,

look,

this is the dumbest thing in the world to send your kid to a place that is going to bring them back as a socialist, most likely, that will give them no job skills and will wind up costing them and putting them in debt $100,000, $200,000 to start their life.

Like, it's one thing when you've got a good job to take out a loan on a house and all these things to start your life with no asset

in theory.

I mean, obviously, you have the asset of the knowledge, whatever that brings up.

And everybody has the same asset.

Yeah, and that's the thing.

I mean, you know, Brian Kaplan makes this argument really convincingly in the, it's called The Case Against Education, which is a great title of a book.

But like, you, you go through this and it's like, it's just credentialism.

Everyone's competing to get to this same line where like, hey, we all have the same thing now.

We spent $200,000 and now we all have the same degree that doesn't really do anything for us other than clear some like auto-generated

filter process for employers.

And like that is, that's a real problem by employers, I think.

I mean, again, they're not even looking at some of the best applicants that they have because a lot of them are just like, oh, we'll just filter out everyone who doesn't have a degree.

So I understand why you'd want to go get a degree, but like it makes absolutely no sense in the real world unless you're doing very specific things.

So everything in your life, if you're a Gen Zer, has got to change.

It has to change.

And there are many of us that believe that we need to change and know what these problems are.

For instance,

you don't have hope right now, many Gen Zers, that your life is going to get better, that America is going to get better.

And you know what?

If things don't dramatically change, they won't.

But it will be your generation that will make that change.

I mean, a lot of Gen Zers and Generation X, they're starting to wake up now and seeing, wait a minute, everything I've been promised by politicians

the opposite seems to be true.

You know, we're going to have more fairness.

We're going to reimagine the cops.

Well, has that worked out for anybody except criminals?

Has it made your life cheaper, better?

Do you feel safer in your town, your neighborhood?

No.

So you know that that, the people who told you this,

that we should reimagine the cops, you know they were either wildly wrong

or they were lying to you.

Either way, you shouldn't listen to them anymore.

Same thing, and this goes for everybody.

The people who said we have to violate the free market system to save the free market system, does the free market system seem to be saved?

Because that's the lie the Federal Reserve and President Bush and everybody else said after 2008 and the banks collapsed.

By the way, if you're a Gen Z or you grew up, I can understand why you are so calloused against this because You grew up at a time where you saw your mom and dad maybe lose their house, lose everything they had, because of the 2008 banking crisis.

So who bailed all of those people out?

The Federal Reserve bailed the banks out, but didn't bail mom and dad out.

So who told you that

if we violate all of our principles that we'll make things better,

who did that?

The Federal Reserve, the politicians, and the banks.

You shouldn't listen to those people because they either were wildly wrong or they lied to you.

I mean, you could go through this one after another.

But right now, the politicians and the banks and the

central banks, the Federal Reserve, are all telling you that we need to spend

a trillion dollars more than what we have every 100 days.

A trillion dollars Remember if you put a dollar down on the table every second for every minute of every hour of every day of every week of every year it would take you 36,000 years

before you would have a stack of a trillion dollars We are printing a trillion dollars every 100 days now somebody has to pay for that and unfortunately It's going to be you and me

because nobody's going to allow us to default on that debt it's just not going to happen

all right

so then how do we pay for it well they try to convince you or your parents or businesses or somebody to buy government bonds why is that a problem I'll explain in 60 seconds

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Okay, so

the government is issuing a trillion dollars

and wanting to sell those bonds, which means somebody just, it's like a bank giving you a loan for a car, okay?

But in the end, you have a car.

Now, that's not a great investment because the car eventually depreciates to nothing.

But if you want to buy a new car, well, you go to a bank and they look at everything and say, you're good for the money.

We'll give you that.

And you buy a new car.

Now, you buy a new house.

That's great

because a house will generally appreciate.

So you're making money on that, where with a car, you're losing money.

Now, the government is selling bonds.

And that means that it goes to people, you know, like you, me,

big corporations, even banks, and they say, buy a U.S.

Treasury bond, buy a savings bond.

Okay.

That's buying

their debt.

That's giving the government the loan for their debt.

What are you getting for that loan?

For that trillion dollars.

Can you tell me today,

what have we What have we purchased in the last 10 years

that we're proud of, that is appreciated, that is really, you look at it and go, wow, but yeah, but we got that.

Can you?

Because I can't.

F-35s, only 25 of them are mission capable.

25%

are mission capable.

That's it.

What have we built?

You know, I keep hearing about infrastructure.

I hear about it every two to four years.

We got to have this X number of dollar for infrastructure, but I don't ever see our infrastructure really getting better.

Do you?

I don't see things where I'm like, wow,

look at that.

I don't.

And here's the problem:

every time for every trillion dollars that people take, because what they're doing is they're taking their money and they're giving that to the government instead of investing that in a company that actually is building something, making something.

Instead of investing it in the private sector, they're giving that loan

to the government, which creates nothing.

In fact,

every $1 trillion

that we take in bonds,

that reduces our GDP every $1 trillion by 0.28%.

So about 30%.

So that means every every trillion dollars,

we're losing almost a point off our GDP because the government isn't making something.

And we're taking this money and instead of investing in a new factory or a new idea,

we invest it in garbage.

We're going to issue almost $4 trillion

just this year,

that's a point off our GDP.

If we do it again next year, that's two points off our GDP.

Do you see what's happening?

We're destroying ourselves, destroying ourselves.

And we're doing it because the average person is saying and has been saying for a long time,

stop spending so much money.

But for some reason,

the only thing I can think of is that everybody's on the take.

Everybody's getting rich.

Nobody in Washington wants to stop spending money.

And those who do want to stop spending so much money, they're the ones that are called extremists.

This wouldn't work in your own home.

Why would you expect it to work here?

And the old idea that, well, we have a big economy.

And so, you know, we're going to,

we can have a big debt.

Not this big.

Not this big.

If you had a big loan for your house and it was on an adjustable mortgage, what would everyone in your family be saying right now?

Sell this damn thing because it's only going to get worse with your adjustable mortgage.

If things get worse, you're going to go bankrupt.

Well, the United States of America, because we sell bonds and they're short-term bonds, that's an adjustable mortgage.

And the house we've purchased,

it has very little value because it doesn't do anything.

We didn't actually buy anything.

Many times we're just paying for people to do what?

Create more paperwork.

so you and I have to pay for more accountants or more lawyers, which doesn't create anything to the bottom line of the GDP.

This is how you destroy a nation.

And Gen Zers, you need to get serious about your own education on economies, what works, what doesn't.

Glenn Beck.

Because you're the ones that are going to have to save it.

Listen, when you're as famous and as

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Stu.

I mean, you have, oh, no, you didn't get one, did you?

I don't like that.

I don't like you.

Anyway,

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Let's go to Lexi in South Carolina.

She's a Gen Zer.

Hello, Lexi.

Hi, Glenn.

How are you?

So, I'm wonderful today.

I get to talk to you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So, so I have a 23 and a 21-year-old.

My 23-year-old, I will say, is autistic.

Both of them are self-sufficient adults.

Now, during COVID, my son came to me and said, hey, mom, I've calculated what I get from unemployment.

I make more money on unemployment than at my job how about I just stay on unemployment

and I looked at him and I said you have 24 hours to find a new place to live or you can go back to work so I truly believe it comes down to our parenting and a lot less about society although society influences it It truly comes down to us as parents and whether or not we've taken the responsibility and owned our children and taught them the value of hard work and

what it means to actually be a true American.

And as a single parent in a military family, that was drowned into our kids.

So,

so

you have two Gen Zers, and

your one

Gen Zer, your son now, how is he?

How's he doing?

He owns his own home.

He's 21.

Wow.

Wow.

So he's a squatter then.

He thinks his best friend's a squatter, but he's definitely a homeowner.

Yeah, that's fantastic.

That's fantastic.

Thank you so much for sharing that.

I appreciate it, Lexi.

Lexi from South Carolina.

You know, that is.

That's great.

That is great.

And I think that's generally true.

Although, you know, we all struggle with our...

with our kids and it is are you going to kick them out of the house

yes and i i think too we

we were criticizing uh you know young people of today

for getting an impression of life based on being lied to by the media, but also from social media largely, where they see their favorite influencers on a vacation on an island every other day, making millions of dollars doing nothing.

And they see these people over and over and over again, and they're like, why can't I do that?

Yeah.

And I will say the reverse does happen to, I'll just speak for myself, to me, because a lot of the social media stuff I see is stuff like we've played today, which is some dumb Gen Zero saying, I worked four hours a month and I can't own my own home.

And it's like, I can see a lot of the negatives and maybe I'm being influenced by that.

I mean, I think there are a lot of Gen Zers who look at this and are just like, this is nonsense.

I can go work and do my own thing.

And I think that's a great, I think that's a great thing.

Though I will say, the government has set up incentives for people to make not the right, but rational decisions like her son was talking about.

Yes.

If you're looking at your job, why am I going to work 40 hours a week where I get paid more to do nothing?

That is a rational decision.

It doesn't mean it's the right decision, but it is a rational decision.

Why are they working?

Hang on just a sec.

Let me play the flip side of that.

Why did they do that besides wanting to destroy the country?

How can you make that a rational statement and a rational idea

when you're talking to people?

Well, you're trying to

create dependency.

Right.

Like long-term policy goals is not really what you're talking about.

No, I am talking about long-term policy goals because I would say that we need universal income.

We need basic universal income because of what's coming with AI.

Now, I'm not saying that.

I don't think basic income is good.

My idea for universal basic income is that you own

everything

you do, think, are, spend, and go.

But you're responsible for your own life?

Yes.

But

hang on.

You own that.

You own all of the information that you create.

And, oh, that's valuable.

Oh, well, I've got a little labor union over here, and we've all decided in our labor union, you can have this, this, this, and this.

And we'll sell that to you as a block,

but you're going to pay us.

There's your universal income.

You're saying it uniquely.

Everybody.

Everybody owns their own data because the data is extraordinarily valuable of course you could do that and these companies tell you you don't and you still sign up for their service and post 9 000 times a day yeah i know well because there's no option there's right but there's no option here there's no there's there's nobody standing up with this is a job of the government standing up and saying well people have a right to privacy they have a right to their own information we haven't defined privacy as our information Okay.

Things have changed.

And all the companies that are using this, did you see the big bank?

What was the bank?

Was it Chase?

Yeah, Chase Manhattan just came out and said, they're now going to sell all of your, all your spending habits to advertisers.

So they'll know exactly what you buy, what you like, et cetera, et cetera.

Your bank just sold you out if you're with Chase Manhattan.

You have a right to own that.

Why are they making money on you?

That's not right.

It's not right.

But that's why, you know, they're coming up with ways for people not to work because they know AI and everything else is going to change everything.

But they are also liars.

They also, as Stu is pointing out here, they also are trying to enslave people.

They are trying to make you dependent on that, on them.

Let me give you a flashback on something uh cut one here's joe biden on on oil in the petroleum reserve today i'm announcing a plan to refill the strato the strategic petroleum reserve oil reserve in the years ahead at a profit for taxpayers the united states government is going to purchase oil to refill the strategic petroleum reserve I mean, did he say one word there?

How is this guy the president of the United States?

That was two years ago, by the way.

It's getting much worse.

That's him in 2022.

To refill the strategic petroleum reserve after draining it to its lowest levels, he was going to buy it at a profit to the American people.

Thank you for translating that.

Yes.

Here they are yesterday at the White House.

Listen to the way KJP is trying to answer this question.

You guys started draining the strategic petroleum reserve to try and help with the Putin price hike a few years ago.

Said you were going to refill it, but now now it doesn't seem like that's happening.

Why?

Well,

I believe the Department of Energy is responsible for that particular component, is refilling that.

So I would refer you to the Department of Energy.

I know there were certain components to that and how they were going to move forward in

refilling it.

They would have more specifics on that.

Wait, wait, but

President Biden is the one who said he was going to fill it at a profit.

Yes, the Secretary of Energy, and you can go down those lines, but you should be answering for him.

At least go get the answer.

Right, because the Secretary of Energy works for the president.

Yeah.

He's not just some like, you know, rogue official.

Right, right.

And like, of course, the answer to this is they're not doing it at all.

They have no intention of doing it.

They were lying at the time

and they will continue to lie about it for as long as people will let them.

Now, there's a couple of other things that Gen Zers should know when you're looking at

the state of your life, your coming life.

We are spending way too much money.

There's no way to pay it off.

We have got to stop spending right now.

But you've been lied to, as I told you, with DEI and all of those things.

It seems compassionate, and that's what they're playing.

You know, Winston Churchill said, when you're young, when you're 20, if you're not a liberal,

you don't have a heart.

By the time you're 40,

have if you're not a conservative you don't have a brain they play on the fact that your heart you want to do the right thing you want to love people you want to you know change the world etc etc and so they have played on you with illegal immigrants they've played on your heartstrings

but

you know Anyone who says this country was built by immigrants, you're right.

Because we're we're all immigrants.

Unless you're a Native American, we are all immigrants to this land.

And so, yes, but Ellis Island, Ellis Island brought in

all of the great immigrants over, you know,

time.

They

Ellis Island is responsible for 60 years of immigrant passage.

They came in from all over the world and they all went through Ellis Island.

And those are the people that built this nation.

Okay?

Do you know that Joe Biden in three years has now allowed more illegals

into our country than Ellis Island did in 60 years?

We talk about a population boom with immigrants.

Well, what about the immigrants of Ellis Island?

Bring us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.

Yeah.

We have now let more people that we don't know who they are.

We've let more people in in three years with this open border than Ellis Island in 60.

How is this going to affect your job?

Remember, back in the, you know, in the early 1800s when Ellis Island was pumping,

what was the problem?

What was being said?

These guys are coming in here and they're taking all of our jobs, jobs that Americans need.

That's what was being said.

That's what was happening.

But it was a slow movement that direction.

And so it was able to work itself out.

This is 60 years of immigration

in three.

You have to ask yourself, Generation Z,

has the group of people that have been telling you that we should be compassionate,

that we should let these people in, and ask yourself after you live through most likely your first terror attack,

Who told you these things?

Were they right or are they wrong?

You can't afford health care.

Do you know who's getting free health care?

Illegal immigrants.

You know who's getting a preferred rate at colleges?

Illegal immigrants.

Do you know who's getting away with

literally murder?

Illegal immigrants.

We

we cease to be a nation.

Do you know that

what's the chicken place?

Purdue.

Purdue just fired, I think it was 1,600 Americans

and hired almost 20,000 illegals.

There's another job that you can't get or some other American can't get.

Does that make your life better or worse?

Especially when you look into the people who have come here illegally.

If they are the ones that are good family people that just want to make their life better, they've probably come here by themselves and they're sending the money out of the country.

They're sending it to Mexico, which does nothing to help create jobs and wealth here in America.

We're bleeding this entire thing dry.

And you just have to remember when we get to Election Day, who has promised you that these things would make things better

for you?

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Is it inevitable?

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The author of Pagan America, The Decline of Christianity and the Dark Age to Come, that doesn't sound like a happy book.

Quite honestly, I I don't know that it was going to improve your mood much.

I mean, but John Daniel Davidson is here with us.

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Let me just tell you, there's a couple of signs of hope, and I'd like John to address some of this as we go along.

First of all, here's Donald Trump two days ago.

So what the hell was Biden thinking when he declared Easter Sunday to be Trans Visibility Day?

Such total disrespect to Christians.

And November 5th is going to be called something else.

You know what it's going to be called?

Christian Visibility Day when Christians turn out in numbers that nobody has ever seen before.

Then we also had this come out over the weekend.

Here's Richard Dawkins, very famous atheist, not proclaiming Christianity as his belief,

but listen to what he says.

I do think that we are culturally a Christian country.

I call myself a cultural Christian.

I'm not a believer, but there's a distinction between being a believing Christian and being a cultural Christian.

And so, you know, I love hymns and Christmas carols, and

I sort of feel at home in the Christian ethos.

If I had to choose between Christianity and Islam, I choose Christianity every single time.

I mean, it seems to me to be a fundamentally decent religion in a way that I think Islam is not.

Okay.

Forget about the Islam part.

The culture of our country is based on Christianity.

So let's bring John in about pagan America.

We are a Christian nation.

You believe that.

I believe we were.

I don't think we are now.

I think we're entering a post-Christian era for America and for the West.

So that kind of sounds bad if you listen to Richard Dawkins.

Yeah, absolutely.

Richard Dawkins should know better, right?

You can't have the culture without the cult.

You can't have Christianity as a cultural force, as a force that shapes the public square and forms the character of the people without the actual religion behind it, people who believe.

Elsewhere in that clip that you played, he said, now I understand that the number of believing Christians are going down in this country, and I think that's a good thing.

What does he think is going to happen to all the cathedrals and all the parish churches?

They're going to turn into mosques in the case of Britain, or apartments or nightclubs.

So, what happens to us?

We become pagan, and part of the claim of the book is that there's really only one alternative to Christianity, which is paganism.

Now, I don't mean that we're going to have temples to Zeus and Apollo popping up in Times Square or a surge of witchcraft, although we are seeing that surge.

What I mean is that our public life, our communal life as a nation and a people is going to be defined by the pagan ethos, not the Christian ethos.

Which the pagan ethos is what?

Nothing is true.

Everything is permitted.

A radical subjectivity about man, about God, about our natures, about what we can become and what we can do.

And so what determines what public policy should be or what determines what is right isn't based on any universal claims about human nature or the image of

God, man being created in the image of God.

It's based on force and coercion.

And that's how pagan societies have always been.

That's why they were slave societies.

So pagan societies in the 20th century.

Soviet Union,

Germany,

post-Christian.

Yes.

Yes, exactly.

Exactly.

And what were they characterized by?

Force, coercion, a rejection of human nature, a rejection of the idea of human rights.

Aaron Powell, so

you're seeing that everywhere.

And this is what led you to

the idea that

we're post-Christian.

Is there any way to turn it around?

I don't think there's a way to turn it around in our lifetimes.

Let's put it that way.

So I don't think that Christianity will be defeated in the end.

I'm a Roman Catholic myself, and so I believe in the permanency of the church and of the Christian faith and victory in the end.

But this is a generational struggle.

It's been centuries now that Christianity has been declining in the West and has really accelerated since the middle of the last century.

And I don't think that it's going to be turned around in our lifetimes and maybe not even in our children's lifetimes.

But there are things that we can do to sort of preserve the flame and rebuild amid the ruins.

Like what?

transmit the faith to our children, carve out spaces for our churches and communities.

And this is the important part.

We don't retreat into those communities.

We find and fight on ground we can win.

Now, that may mean moving out of large cities that are lost.

And it also may mean getting involved at the local level to take back your school district, take back your library, take back your city council, you know,

and bring the faith, the Christian faith, back into the public square where it was for most of our history as a country.

You know, I've been saying for a long time now, I think it's really important that, and I don't like this because

I don't want to segregate us.

I don't want

two separate Americas.

But I think because of the battle that we're in right now,

I think it's important to be in like-minded communities, especially religiously speaking.

And I don't mean all of the same religion.

I mean that they are Judeo-Christian

value-driven communities

because

if you're not in that community and you are not surrounded by the people with the same kind of ethics and ethos,

you could very well be into a community that goes wrong on either side, on either right or left, and goes into darkness quickly.

Do you agree with that?

You also get lulled into a sense of complacency, right?

That things are okay.

It's not as bad as it seems.

Part of the, you know, arresting title and subtitle and the cover of the book, which has a burning church on it, is to wake people up, to get people to accept that this is happening.

We're living in a post-Christian society.

Christianity is not going to be the dominant force in the public life of America moving forward, as it has been, as I said, for most of our history.

We're going to become a pagan country.

And that means that Christians are going to become a persecuted minority, as they always have been in pagan society.

Wouldn't you say that we're already really kind of there?

It's not as bad as

it probably will be, but we're already there.

Look, if you're pro-life, you're toast.

Yeah.

The number of things that you can't publicly disagree with or dispute is growing seemingly by the week, right?

You have to accept that Easter is really trans day of visibility.

You have to accept that abortion is a positive good, not just safe, legal, and rare, but it's a positive good that's necessary to vindicate the rights of women.

You can't question gay marriage anymore.

That ships sailed a long time ago.

So these are things that are part of what I call the pagan morality or the state morality of the new pagan regime.

And

there is no dissent allowed on these things because dissent, tolerance in the public square, freedom of speech, that's a Christian virtue.

That's a luxury that only a Christian society can afford.

Has there been any pagan

countries that have

lasted?

I mean, I know Soviet Union 80 years, but has there been any modern pagan

that just don't eat themselves?

Aaron Ross Powell, Jr.: Well, no.

And the thing that always happens to pagan societies when they encounter Christianity, going back through history, Christianity is the only thing that breaks the pagan stranglehold on a people across geography, across

time, across cultures.

It was the encounter with Christianity that broke these pagan societies because it proposed a radically new way of conceiving of man and our relationship to God God and one another and how we should organize society.

And as Christianity retreats, that paganism, that pagan ethos that's simmering just below the surface is going to come back in modern forms, in modern iterations, as it did in Nazi Germany, as it did in the Soviet Union.

And those were periods where there was sort of this illusion of like, of atheism and of secularism.

We're shedding that pretty quickly.

This idea that the future is going to be the secular, liberal utopia is totally wrong.

Well, I think wokeism is a religion.

It's a form of paganism.

Yeah, it has its high priests.

You can easily be excommunicated.

It has its rituals.

It has things you must do and must never do.

It's the opposite of Christianity.

There is no forgiveness.

Even the high priests can't forgive you unless,

you know, you bow down to them.

And then only maybe.

And then only maybe, depending on who you are.

I mean, it it is

so clearly a religion.

Why call it paganism

instead of wokeism?

Because I think

wokeism, just like atheism or communism, is a species of paganism.

And that when you really dig into what paganism is and how it works, what we're seeing is a resurgence of paganism in a modern context.

And so part of it is a vocabulary problem, right?

We're not going to talk about the gods in the same way that ancient pre-Christian peoples talked about the gods.

But we are seeing a growing acceptance of the idea of spiritual forces, a movement away from pure materialist, secular, scientistic sort of thinking that denies all supernatural reality, that denies all spiritual reality, especially among young people you see this right now.

This admixture of being secular on the one hand in rejecting organized religion, but being open to spiritual forces and

things like identity that are really beyond reason, or I would say, a disfigurement of reason, which is another hallmark of a pagan society.

And we see that everywhere now.

So

you saying these things, it would be really easy for the left to say, ah,

you want, you're a Christian nationalist.

You want a Christian country that is run by the church.

How do you respond to Christian nationalism?

Well, it would be great if it were true.

The funny thing about the Christian nationalist debate,

as I sort of, the argument in my book kind of lays out, is that it's the opposite of the case.

We're not becoming a Christian nationalist country.

I don't even know what that means.

I think what they mean by that is that they don't want Christianity to have any influence on our national life and on the public square, as was the case for our entire history up until the middle of the last century.

But the idea that Christian nationalists are somehow ascendant or that Christians are somehow gaining power and influence in the United States is a joke.

And when you look at the demographic data and you look at the decline in church affiliation and church attendance, you look at how...

It's plummeting.

Yeah, on every metric across the board.

So it's a weird argument to make at a time when Christianity has never been weaker in the United States.

But

there are those that do want a, I mean, they're very fringe, fringe, fringe, fringe, fringe,

but they do want a religious state.

And that, I don't think that's what you would want when you said it would be great if it were true.

I don't think it would be great if it were true.

I want the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, but I want the people

to

regulate themselves.

And, you know, as Franklin and Jefferson said,

the best way to regulate yourself is through religion, through Christianity.

Well, you had John Adams' famous line that our Constitution was meant for only immoral and religious people.

It's unfit for any other.

But, you know, it really is true that Remy Bragg, the French philosopher, said in the 1990s talking about Europe, that European civilization,

you know, is a product not of calculation, but of faith.

So you need actual Christian belief, contra Richard Dawkins.

You can't just have the principles.

They rely as their source of vitality on an active faith among the people.

So if we actually had a critical mass of believing, practicing Christians in this country, we would have things like free speech, tolerance, an open public square, human rights and respect for everybody, the things that are disappearing right now under an ascendant and emerging pagan regime.

The name of the book is Pagan America: The Decline of Christianity and the Dark Age to Come.

I just want to hold you over for just a second longer because it's a little dark, and I'd like to see the hope in all of it.

We'll do that in just a second.

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I mean, it's, you know, it's never been like that, and it's never going to get that bad.

Clearly not true.

John.

We're in a different place than we've ever been before.

So give me some hope.

What can be done?

The last chapter of the book is titled The Boniface Option, and it's a loving dig at Rod Dreer's The Benedict Option, which came out in 2016.

And one of the things that the Dreer argued for was to build up your local communities, your local churches, your home schools, your family communities, and sort of build an arc to survive the storms to come.

And one of the things I push back on a little bit is the idea that we can just build arcs and kind of hunker down and survive.

We have to push forward and we have to push Christianity out back into the public square where it was and where it belongs as a testament to the faith.

I think there is hope in this sense.

As people shed their sort of strict materialist worldview and are open to the idea of spiritual forces, there's an opportunity for Christians to proclaim their faith publicly again and proclaim it to people people who maybe are more open than they were a generation ago when secular liberalism seemed

triumphant and it seemed like the future was going to be this atheist, cold, rationalistic world.

That's not the world that's emerging right now.

And so there's real

There's real battles to fight with real spiritual forces.

And Christians need to sort of put on their armor and get ready to fight for their faith by, like I said earlier, taking back your schools, taking back your city halls, taking back your towns,

but also be prepared to proclaim the faith publicly and pay a cost for it, right?

There was a long period in this country where Christians and the state were kind of, you know, on the same side and Christians enjoyed a kind of deference and privilege that they didn't through much of our history.

That's coming to an end.

And we need to wrap our minds around that.

We need to steal our nerves and we need to take heart in the truth of our faith and the succor and the strength that it gives us.

And

that only begets the stronger Christians, stronger people of faith when they really have to struggle with it.

That's our problem.

We haven't had to struggle with our faith for so long.

It's just like, yeah,

I'm sure I believe in God.

You wouldn't say it out loud many times, but

now that you're starting to be pushed, you're seeing more and more people talk about it openly.

Thank you so much for being in here.

It's Pagan America, The Decline of Christianity and the Dark Age to Come.

John Daniel Davidson.

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So I don't know how we got here, but Stu and I were just talking off air, and somehow or another we got to John Williams and I said,

John Williams.

Composer.

Yeah, composer John Williams.

I said, you know, he ripped off two of his biggest themes.

I'd never heard that before.

Yeah.

And then I played it for Stu.

He's like, come on.

And I'm telling you, I'm telling you, the two biggest themes that he ever got, I think he took from what's called a new symphony or a symphony for a new city or something like that.

Listen,

what piece?

What is the actual title of this piece of music

before you?

Okay, hang on just a second.

You don't have it?

Yeah, it is

Symphony Number Nine from the New World.

Okay.

It's symphony number nine from the new world.

Okay.

So listen to this and tell me.

I mean,

obviously Josh.

Now listen.

Now listen.

In 40 seconds, two themes.

Listen to this one.

I mean,

right?

That's the Star Wars.

I mean, it's not exact, but it's.

It's pretty freaking close.

It's really close.

It's really close.

One symphony.

One symphony in the first 40 seconds, two of his themes.

See that?

Is that appropriating culture?

Can we get him on that?

I don't think we might.

We need to.

Well, no, it's an American.

Well, I mean, he was from Hungary, Dvorak.

I think he was from Hungary, but he came here to America to write that.

theme.

They were looking for something, you know, for the new world.

And so I think that was written in maybe the 1940s or 50s, somewhere in that area.

I'm not, I'm sorry, I'm not an expert on Dvoriak.

I know somebody is like, you're not even pronouncing it right.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Of course, I'm not.

By the way, have you been following any of the other cultural appropriation stories that have been going on?

No.

I'm very concerned about it.

Okay.

You know,

we've been talking forever about how, for example,

a straight actor should not play gay roles.

Sure, because that would be wrong.

Because acting isn't pretending you're something that you aren't.

That's not what acting is by definition, of course.

Or a healthy actor should not play somebody who is like in a wheelchair.

Right.

I mean, these are the dumb accusations we've talked about before.

However, in this particular case, I'm very concerned about Hunter Schaefer.

Are you familiar with Hunter Schaefer?

Nope.

Hunter Schaefer.

Anybody named Hunter now now is shady to me, immediately.

It's weird.

Biden has ruined that name.

Yeah.

Well, Hunter is very upset because Hunter,

a very beautiful woman, which is the only thing you're allowed to say about her.

Okay, so it's a him.

Got it.

You picked that up?

Yeah.

Okay,

I was trying to hide it.

Oh, I know.

Yeah, yeah.

She is a trans

female.

I don't remember how this works.

Trans female, right?

Like, so he's a, it's a dude saying it's a girl.

Okay.

It's that one.

It's that medical condition.

Whatever that is.

And apparently, Schaefer is very upset.

Very upset.

Because she has gotten offered tons of roles in movies.

So you think, okay, that's great news.

As a woman?

As a woman.

As a trans woman.

So she's getting trans roles offered to her because, as we've been told, now straight men and even, I guess, a gay man can't play a trans actor in a trans story.

So they have to go to the trans people to get those people to act in the trans stories.

I have my hand up.

And now they're offering these trans stories to Hunter Schaefer, Glenn.

Yes, I have a question.

Yes.

You said she's been offered, or he's been offered, or it's been offered

tons of trans

tons of trans roles.

So that's a quote.

There are tons

of roles for trans roles.

people.

As you know, 84% of America is trans.

So I needed to know that.

Glenn, yes.

Yes.

I don't think that's true.

Oh, really?

Yeah, I don't.

I don't.

I don't know.

I've been watching the news lately.

That's my impression.

That was an estimate.

I should have pointed out.

Thank you.

Okay.

So Hunter Schaefer, this person that I don't know what they've been in, I will be honest.

Don't know.

I guess euphoria.

Yes, Glenn.

I am asking a question.

I just want to know,

before you read the story, did you know who Hunter was?

Because I've never heard of them.

I've never heard of Hunter Schaefer before, but I have heard of the show Euphoria, which was an HBO show.

And I think it's been in a couple of other things.

Was a sporting role in one of the Hunger Games movies, apparently.

So, Hunter Schaefer, yes, Glenn, you have a question.

I just want to know.

When you said he's been in a couple of other things.

We don't need to go any further on that particular question.

Please sit down, Glenn.

You've asked enough questions.

But Hunter Schaefer, star of Euphoria, and some Hunter Games,

Hunger Games sequel I did not see,

is upset because

she is getting

offered tons of trans roles, but she doesn't want to do them or talk about them.

She just wants to be a girl and move on.

Glenn, you had a question?

Yes.

Your hand is up.

How can she be a girl when she's not a girl?

I don't know.

We have to go

doubt.

I have a question.

Yes.

How can

she not be a girl and yet play a girl's role when we shouldn't take roles away from

you need to sit down immediately.

In fact, I'm calling the principal.

I'm calling the principal.

How dare you?

That is not an appropriate question.

I'm glad you had a question.

Yeah, I have a question.

What are honest questions to you?

The ones that agree with what I've already been saying.

Okay.

So if you ask a question that agrees with what I'm saying.

Now, I don't know how to deal with this particular turn of events, though, because we do know if a straight male wants to play a gay male, that's wrong.

That's wrong.

It's culture appropriation.

You're just

taking roles.

You're a gay male or a Chinese male or a Japanese male and you want to play a Native American.

That's wrong.

Right.

It's all wrong.

Right.

And so we know what we have to do to get someone who is trans.

We know also that if you are uh

a guy in a wheelchair uh with als

it would be okay for you to play stephen hawking right but only if you only the yeah and only in the last part not at the beginning part

where he can walk and stumbles a lot

right maybe you have two separate actors two separate actors you're getting down the road

we're really trying to get through this particular lesson today

the question though is if you have to offer for trans roles, you have to offer to trans actors, but that's the new line.

She says, he says that.

So this is a he said.

I have a question.

Glenn.

This is a he said, she said kind of situation.

Yes, and very much.

You never really have an answer to those.

No, you may not have an answer to this one.

Isn't it cultural appropriation for

Schaefer to play a role that is not a trans role.

If a trans woman

plays a straight female role, would that not be cultural appropriation of the straight female?

Glenn, do you have to go to the restroom?

No, I haven't.

Oh, okay.

I'm sorry.

Yes, Glenn.

Can they play dual roles, though?

Because

while he denies that he's a man.

Right.

Okay.

Because he's a transgender woman, which he is not a woman can he play a man as a transgender woman

i

i mean i would say i would say yes i think he could but i don't think he would say yes

because he's because he's actually a woman right as we know trans women are women and trans men are men now one interesting part about this glenn is that this trans woman does not want to be seen as a trans woman she wants to be seen as a woman okay We do not have to, we are not legally required to do such a thing at this time.

At this time.

However, it's coming soon to a theater near you.

Right.

What time is it now?

Yes.

The question, though, however, is:

wouldn't Trans Visibility Day fly in the face of a person who is trans but wants to be seen as a woman?

You wouldn't want the visibility of your transness

to be focused on.

So, why would you want a trans visibility day?

Glenn, you had a question.

Yes, I do.

You're asking all the questions.

No one else in class is getting anything.

This is why everybody, when I went to class in college, everybody used to say to me, do that thing that you do with the professor to just keep him talking.

Because I have a question.

Yes, Glenn.

Does anybody else's head hurt besides mine?

Yeah.

I think so.

Yeah,

I think that's it.

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A wild elephant attack happened, and

I'm guessing I'm hoping that it's someplace in Africa.

I mean, not that I hope that you know people were hurt in Africa, but I'm just hoping that it is not here in America.

So, we don't also have wild elephant attacks going on.

I mean, we already have a horse on a highway.

It would be horrible if we started having wild elephant attacks right there.

It'd be bad.

But then last hour, I also told you about the violent roaming gang of monkeys that is happening in Thailand.

I'm just collecting the news from all over the world to say, hey, America, we don't have it that bad, right?

We don't have monkeys with shivs.

You know, we have people with shivs.

I should make you aware that Botswana has just announced they are willing to send over 20,000 elephants to Germany.

The president has announced he will send 20,000 elephants to Germany.

Now, Germany doesn't know that they want them, but they are apparently having some dispute over hunting, where Germany is saying it's bad to go hunt them.

And then Botswana's like, okay, can you take 20,000 of them off our hands then?

Because they're all over the place.

Yeah, good.

So, Jazz, that's just one other thing going on in the world.

But we also have the ringleader of a monkey, a global monkey torture network.

I'm sorry.

a global monkey torture network

that person has been uh charged with crime so can i can i

i mean i know what monkey torture would imply would imply okay um but a global monkey torture network i'm not is that like is that like a television network this thursday at 8 p.m watch the monkeys in a blender right i mean and you might yes you might think this is the type of thing that, yeah, what country is this?

What weird country is this coming from?

It's the one called Virginia.

Have you heard of Virginia?

In the United States.

Yes.

Yeah.

The Virginia in the United States.

They're torturing Cartney.

Torturing monkeys.

Well, he was the head of the

Global Tour.

It's Torture Network, which was kind of what you just outlined.

Essentially, people would request monkeys to be tortured on video for their own pleasure.

And this guy would facilitate that wonderful thing.

Glenn, you have a question.

Your hand is raised again.

I have many questions on this.

People would write in, call in, can say, do they have

a good question?

I know it was an internet, such as.

Hello, you're on Larry King Live.

You're on Monkey Torture Live.

Call in one.

So

you would ask them to torture monkeys?

Yes.

These calls come in from the United States.

All over the world.

All over the global network.

And apparently he would,

the story seems to be that he would outsource the actual torture to people in other countries.

He would facilitate the transaction.

Just like a white man.

Very much so.

There you go.

And he was.

I was.

First of all, I would read you the details of the story, but they are way too horrific.

I mean, it is legitimately one of the most

horrifying thing I've ever read in my entire life.

I wish I did not read it.

It's one of those stories I wish I did not read.

This is why I'm bringing it to a national audience because get this in your head.

But

I did chuckle at his actual

his response to these accusations.

Because most of you, like, I didn't, what are you talking about?

Torture monkeys, that's crazy.

That's that's the first thing you say, yeah.

What are you talking about?

I didn't torture any monkeys, that's nuts, right?

Your fallback is I hired somebody else to do it, maybe, yeah.

I know it was terrible, right?

His was, I was the man.

What

he described himself as the king of this demented world and said, I was the man.

Quote, you want to see monkeys get messed up?

I could bring it to you.

okay it's an interesting approach in your defense and just i will say just know virginia he was somebody's neighbor in your state yeah you know what florida's saying right now yeah how about that virginia how about it

screw you virginia we got a lot of things in florida but not the king of monkey torture no that's your guy

your guy

I mean,

at least Florida could say, screw that.

We had nothing to do with the monkey torture.

I don't know, there's other stuff going on.

I mean, what kind of ⁇ I mean,

you talked about paganism.

I'm a man who moved to Virginia.

No.

God, where was he born?

If it says Florida, I'm going to be so disappointed for Florida.

Okay, Florida not mentioned in the article at least.

That's good.

You're talking about paganism with John Daniel Davidson earlier.

Yeah.

And like,

I mean, I'm sure there have been times in history where horrible things like this have happened.

But, like, the fact that you can industrialize this, essentially, like, we created an industry of sorts.

Why would people want to see that?

Is it a sexual thing?

God help me.

I go back to the pagan America book we just talked about.

I don't know what else could it be.

I guess it's, you know, there are like animal-crushing videos that's horrible.

I mean, people are just freaking screwed up.

And

I don't know how you separate it from pagan America, honestly.

I think there's probably some pagans that are like, hey, don't blame that.

Hey,

there's a pagan organization in Florida.

It's like, wait a minute, we had nothing to do with this.

All right.

We will see you tomorrow.

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