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We've got a lot on our plate today.

First, we're going to start with the Israeli strike in Syria.

What does it mean?

And then I want to take you back not just to this Sunday, this last Sunday, where CBS

did a

special on 60 Minutes on the Havana syndrome.

And it seems pretty clear that all kinds of things are happening with Russia and they're targeting our intelligence.

Or are they?

I want to take you also back further than last Sunday, the 60 Minutes report.

I want to take you to a

joint intelligence statement from the United States after an investigation that ended last year.

You tell me what's going on.

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Oh my gosh.

Good things.

So good.

Good, good, good things.

Actually,

some really funny things.

I mean, you know, we went, we thought to the point of insanity.

And I think we're just starting to scratch the surface of insanity, you know?

That sounds wonderful.

Yeah,

we were at a place of kind of piss you off insanity, and now it's gone so insane, it's kind of funny and entertaining.

okay okay all right let's go but let's start with the israeli strike in syria killed seven including three uh iranian commanders these are the uh the commanders of the al-quds

force

uh now al-quds

is

you know

I remember them from our conversations over the years, but I don't remember all the time.

I know, I had to remind myself, too.

The Al-Quds force is the Jerusalem force.

Okay.

Okay.

So these are the

Iranian, very highly trained Revolutionary Guard, and

the kind of special forces of the Revolutionary Guard are the Al-Quds.

So their job is to regain Jerusalem.

Okay, so, but don't worry about it.

They have no ill intent on Israel or the Jews.

Oh, good.

Then you have the Al-Aqsa Brigade, which is the one that Hamas is, and Al-Aqsa is the Al-Aqsa Mosque on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

So I think we know what they're targeting, both of them.

Okay.

So

this is the

arm, direct arm of Iran, is Al-Qud's force.

Hamas and the Al-Aqsa, they're more like, what?

We don't.

Iran, what?

Oh, yeah, I ain't sure we get everything from Iran, but we're definitely on our own.

Okay.

Al-Aqsa is

that.

The Quds force is definitely Iran.

By coincidence, they happen to do a lot of things that Iran seems to want.

It is just a coincidence.

It's just a coincidence.

Just a coincidence.

A coincidence.

Okay.

So apparently they went in, and I don't know if you saw the...

Did you see the pictures of it?

I didn't see any pictures.

No.

Oh my gosh.

You have to see it.

See if we can find some pictures of it in the control room.

This is the most surgical thing I've ever seen.

So it's a place in Damascus where all of the embassies are.

Now, you don't necessarily think bombing an embassy among many embassies would be a good thing, right?

You miss a little bit.

It could cause some issues.

Correct.

So this is a building very tight next to other buildings, and they're all ambassadors.

I'm seeing them now, yeah, yeah.

Okay, yes, look at the precision of that.

They've completely destroyed the one building they were targeting, and the other ones are completely fine.

Completely fine, completely fine.

That is that's an expert military, that is a surgical strike if I've ever seen one.

So, uh, that is the consulate for Iran,

and apparently, the guys who were in charge

of

the Al-Quds

brigade were in the Iranian consulate.

That just happened to be there.

It was like, what?

We weren't talking about business or anything.

Oh, no, of course not.

Again, they just happen to have some things they do that happen to agree coincidentally.

And Israel is saying,

I mean, they're saying off the record that they were responsible for this, but also saying that this particular building they deny has diplomatic status.

Yeah, because it wasn't the embassy.

Right.

It was the concept.

It was on the complex, right?

It was

and so it was

kind of like if you

I don't know if you bombed the Blair House in Washington, which is right next to

the White House, you'd be like, we didn't touch the White House.

Right.

Well, no.

It's pretty aggressive tactics, certainly, certainly.

But for good reason, it seems.

Right.

So we don't know what Iran's response is going to be.

We should wait and wait and see.

Of course, they called for the death of

the Jews and the destruction of Israel

and America.

But I don't think they mean the America part.

You know?

By the way, two ministers in the new Palestinian cabinet have made statements supporting terrorism.

So, you know, they got that going for them.

They demand that the Palestinian Authority be revitalized.

You know, they're in the Gaza Strip, which is

great, I hear, this time of year.

So anyway, so you've got that going for you.

Now, there's something else that is bothering me.

In fact, can we play from yesterday's clips?

can we play the 60 Minutes former Pentagon investigator says U.S.

officers attacked by Russians?

This is cut four.

This is really important to listen to this.

Are we being attacked?

My personal opinion, yes.

By whom?

Russia.

Greg Edgreen ran the investigation for the Defense Intelligence Agency.

He would not discuss classified information, but he described his team's work from 2021 to 2023.

We were collecting a large body of data ranging from signals intelligence, human intelligence, open source reporting,

anything regarding the internet, travel records, financial records, you name it.

Unfortunately, I can't get into specifics based on the classification, but I can tell you at a very early stage, I started to focus on Moscow.

Can you tell me about the patterns you began to see?

One of the things I started to notice was the caliber of our officer that was being impacted.

This wasn't happening to our worst or our middle range officers.

This was happening to our top five, 10% performing officers across the Defense Intelligence Agency.

And consistently, there was a Russia nexus.

There was some angle where they had worked against Russia, focused on Russia, and done extremely well.

The impact has been that the intelligence officers and our diplomats working abroad are being removed from their posts with traumatic brain injuries.

They're being neutralized.

They're being neutralized.

And Russia was involved.

Cup two, please, from today.

It was like this piercing

feeling on the side of my head.

It was like I remember it was on the right side of my head and I

got like vertigo.

Olivia Troy was Homeland Security Advisor to Vice President Mike Pence.

In our 2022 report, she told us she was hit outside the White House.

And then severe ear pain started.

So I liken it to if you put a q-tip too far and you bounce off your eardrum.

Well imagine taking a sharp pencil and just kind of poke in that.

And this man told us he was among the first publicly known cases in 2016 from our embassy in Cuba.

That's how the incidents became known as Havana syndrome.

He's medically retired from an agency we can't name, blind in one eye and struggling for balance.

Okay.

All right.

That's really weird.

It is weird, isn't it?

What do you go away with on that, Dar Stew?

On that particular report?

On what you just heard, what do you take away from that?

Russia is apparently attacking our

government officials with some sort of weapon that not really explained there, but we've heard about Havana syndrome before.

And it seems to be really affecting people that are hit with whatever this is.

Now let me take you back to 2023.

It's a briefing from the State Department.

Tot three, please.

It has been the broad

conclusion of the intelligence community since March 2023 that it's unlikely a foreign adversary is responsible for these anomalous health incidents.

It's something that the intelligence community has investigated extensively and continues to look at.

We will look at new information as it comes in and make assessments inside the State Department and with our intelligence community.

You can't confirm whether INR agrees with that in this building?

No, we do share that assessment.

They do share that assessment.

hmm okay wait i remember that this is a big story yeah this is from the washington post a year ago the mysterious ailment known as havana syndrome did not result from the actions of a foreign adversary according to an intelligence report that shatters a long-disputed theory that hundreds of u.s personnel were targeted and sickened by a clandestine enemy wielding energy waves as a weapon The new intelligence assessment caps a years-long effort by the CIA and several other U.S.

intelligence agencies to explain why career diplomats, intelligence officers, and others serving in U.S.

missions around the world experience what they described as strange and painful acoustic sensations.

Many of the afflicted personnel say that they were victims of a deliberate attack, possibly in the hands of Russia or another adversarial government.

A claim that the report contradicts in nearly every respect, according to two intelligence officials who are familiar with the assessment described to the Washington Post, seven intelligence agencies participated in a review of approximately 1,000 cases of health incidences, the term the government uses to describe a constellation of physical symptoms, including ringing in the ears followed by pressure in the head and nausea.

Five of those agents determined it was very unlikely that a foreign adversary was responsible for the symptoms, either as a result of purposeful actions, such as directed energy weapons, or a byproduct of some other activity, including electronic surveillance, and made people sick.

They spoke on the condition of anonymity.

One agency, which the officials did not name, determined that it was unlikely that a foreign actor was at fault, a slightly less emphatic finding that did not appreciably change the consensus.

One agency abstained in its conclusion regarding a foreign actor.

But when asked, no agency dissented from the conclusion that a foreign actor did not cause the symptoms, one of the intelligence officials said.

Now that came out a year ago.

So one would have to ask the government, were you lying then

or are you lying now?

Is it that these are just people within these investigations who are disagreeing disagreeing with the final conclusion of the government report?

Because I remember that report.

It was a big story at the time.

I mean, it was a big thing.

Like, everyone, for years and years and years, we were told about this Havana syndrome, very suspicious and strange, but no one really knew.

And then they came out with this report and it was, okay, this is our conclusion.

We came up with it.

It wasn't anybody.

It was, I mean, they kind of made it seem like these were unrelated sort of

general health ailments these people were going through.

Let's go through some of this.

60 Minutes spoke with retired general officer, Lieutenant Colonel Greg Elgreen.

Now, remember, he said one agent, or the report a year ago said one agency didn't agree.

So let's just say that Greg is the guy who said, I'm not taking a position on this one.

He said that a Russia appeared to be the common denominator across most cases concerning Havana syndrome.

One of the things I started to notice was the caliber of our officers.

Okay, remember what he just said, our top five or 10% performing officers.

So let's look at those

who were targeted.

The investigative journalist also claimed to have obtained an accounting document linked to a top-secret Russian intelligence unit called 29155, which outlines a bonus payment for an officer who worked on a project concerning potential capabilities of non-lethal acoustic weapons.

When I saw it, I literally had tears in my eyes because it was spelling out what they had been doing, said

one of the victims.

It's not definitive proof of Havana syndrome cause.

It's the closest to a receipt you can have, however,

for this.

Okay.

So who are

some of these

people?

Who are some of the people that

were linked?

And is it real or a hoax?

Let me go there

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Okay,

let's look at

what's happening

with CBS report.

CBS

doesn't have and neither does the FBI have any interest in protecting one of the one of the main sources there that is supposed to be high-level intelligence.

Nobody seems to care about hiding her identity.

Moreover, CBS acknowledges on multiple occasions that the FBI has been in the loop regarding her appearance and talking points on CBS.

This means that CBS and the FBI have been working in concert on this story,

which leads to a variety of questions about the independence of 60 Minutes in reporting the story accurately without any bias.

Remember, the deep state, they keep going to the same sources that have lied to them over and over and over again.

Throughout the piece, there's a stunning lack of real evidence that delivers a direct link between the Russian agents, directed energy weapons, and the variety of claimed injuries.

Now,

is there any link?

Are there any questions that should be asked?

Well, here's one: Why isn't Moscow using this weapon against Zelensky?

Why is there no evidence of Russia using these devices on any battlefield such as Ukraine or Syria?

There's a journalist.

His name is Hans

Hans McKinney.

He noticed and spoke on X.

He said, it's really important to scrutinize the individual current and the former government agents who claim to be suffering.

So who are they?

Well, one of them is retired from the CIA in 2019, currently an MSNBC contributor.

He was one of the many former government agents who claimed that Hunter Biden's laptop was disinformation.

Miles Taylor, another one,

wrote the infamous anonymous anti-Trump letter.

made a career of leveraging his government credentials to write best-selling Trump-bashing fan fiction.

Olivia Troy, she's a former advisor to Mike Pence.

She's followed a similar path to Mr.

Taylor.

And the last one waged the campaign to get social media to censor critics, falsely accuse several people of being Russian-controlled accounts.

Seems like we have the same kind of people running around.

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So, Gwen, you're going over this piece on Havana syndrome from Jordan Schachtel, right?

Yeah, so it's in the dossier.

It's really, really well written and I think well thought out.

He's asking the question, why now?

Why is this story?

And this is something that came up to me yesterday when we were talking about it on the air that 60 Minutes had covered this thing.

Wait a minute, isn't that the same thing that all of the agency said

was

not a foreign actor?

Yeah, well, he thought the same thing.

And he went in and he looked into

who these people are.

And they're all people that, you know, have either been anti-Trump,

pro-Hunter Biden.

They're all the people that were involved in all of this garbage over the last few years about Russia.

And so

that's kind of a coincidence.

I mean, incredible.

He points out in his article,

is it perhaps because the House is set to vote on both the massive seizing of Russian assets and the infusion of cash for the war in Ukraine.

They're set to vote on that right around the corner.

So are they, is this just another setup by the government

using CBS to carry the water to say, see, see how bad they are?

It doesn't make sense to me.

It obviously doesn't make sense to him either.

What does make sense is that you're being set up and lied to because you were either being lied to last year or you're being lied to now.

Which is it?

Which is it?

Well, I would imagine that you're probably being lied to now, seeing that money is involved.

And you watch.

You watch.

They're going to come out with

the Ukraine money, and they're going to say, it's a loan.

It's just a loan.

We're just going to loan them this money.

They'll pay us back,

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All right.

Pat Gray is with us from Pack and Ray Unleashed.

Hi, Pat.

Hi, Glenn.

How are you?

Oh,

man.

You stay.

Man.

Did you take your transgender tree down yet?

No.

I keep it up for the rest of the month.

Really?

Of April.

There's so many holidays coming up.

I know.

There's like 47 LGBTQ holidays.

Yeah, I know, but I just kind of combine them after Transgender Day and just keep it all there.

Yeah, you do it for a month because I like to keep mine until after

June.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

I guess I'm a hater because I only keep it up.

You only keep it up for a month.

Yeah, I think so.

And

we build a storage shed because I don't like what you're doing when it comes to only one tree for Transgender Visibility Day.

Oh, wow.

I switch them out for each individual holiday.

So I have a whole storage facility built in my property now for all the tree storage.

Yeah.

So a lot of people.

I guess I'm a hater.

Yeah.

Because I only keep it up.

Yeah, I I only keep it up until the end of June.

Yeah, well, you keep it going year-round, you know, it might be because you probably are just looking for the LGBTQ community, and I'm talking about the LGBTQQIA2 community.

That's well, that's I will tell you that, you know, I have a farm

and I'm growing all of my plants.

In fact, I'm not, a lot of it's really not useful, except for the environment, but not for people.

Some of it will kill people.

But I've planted a whole bunch of flowers and

a bunch of grains to actually

make the LGBTQ

2 plus

AI

I plus plus.

I think you missed one of the Qs, but yeah, I get what you did.

You did.

You did.

Either the queer or the questioning.

Right.

So I'm questioning whether or not you're really a supporter.

My flag.

But I have like...

I have like a hundred acre

planting of the

true ally.

When people are flying over the flyover country, they'll see this hundred-acre flag that I've made.

That's not good enough.

Not for is your farm a queer farm?

Are you a queer farmer?

Because that's what I want to know.

Is your livestock questioning?

Actually, I think

it might be.

They might be then.

So, yeah.

What fascinates me is that from January 1st to March 31st,

transgender people are invisible.

And then

on March 31st, they're suddenly visible.

It's really strange.

Now, I don't know if they've gone invisible again.

Are they only visible on that

one day?

That's a good question.

Yeah, that's a good question.

I'm questioning that question.

Well, yeah, well,

you're the other cue.

I like you out.

Thank you.

That's why I'm so offended.

The good thing, though, is that Joe Biden didn't do any of it.

He doesn't even know what you're talking about on Easter with the Transgender Visibility Day.

Well,

is that entirely true?

Of course it is.

He didn't have anything to do with it.

He didn't do it.

I didn't do it.

I didn't do it.

Really?

Yeah.

Okay, just one of your minions did it at your direction?

Is that what happened?

They really are just hoping you can't believe your lion eyes.

They're like really hoping that works.

With everything.

Yeah.

With every

inflation wasn't real.

The economy's fantastic.

Everything's going really well all over the world.

And they just keep saying these things and assuming you'll just start believing them eventually.

Did you guys play the KJP thing from yesterday when she was asked about it?

No.

And we have it from my

stockpile.

Just a couple of things.

And

really

so surprised by the misinformation that's been out there around this.

And I want to be very clear.

Every year for the past several years, on March 31st,

Transgender Day of Visibility is marked.

Yes, we know.

And as we know, for folks who understand the calendar and how it works, Easter falls on different Sundays.

What?

Yes.

Every year.

No.

And this year it happened to coincide with Transgender Visibility Day.

And so that is the simple fact.

That is what has happened.

That is where we are.

That's where we are.

What's the matter with you?

Yes, we had to remove all religiosity from a religious holiday.

And it just happened to jump around to where these two coincided.

That's all.

So we took out all the religion from Easter and instead inserted Transgender Visibility Day.

And it just happened to work out like that.

What are we supposed to do?

I mean, look, I get the point of the, you know, it falls on the same day, but like it also, they're like, well, if it's going to happen five times this century,

and it happened already in 2013, this is a point they make to defend themselves.

Well, why wasn't it a controversy in 2013?

Right, because they didn't make a big controversy.

Because they didn't make a big deal about it.

Right.

They didn't say anything about it.

Because back in 2013, which seems like it wasn't that long ago, Barack Obama was president of the United States.

No, it was like four universes ago.

It does.

It was.

You know why?

Barack Obama had just admitted he favored gay marriage.

And now we're at Trans Day of Visibility.

Right.

Plastered over Eastern.

They didn't talk about it in 2013, which is why it wasn't controversial on Easter.

Yep.

Because they didn't mention it.

Well, you know what?

You know, I have to say they erased all of the religiosity.

I mean, I've heard this argument, and it is so ridiculous.

If you look at

the president's statement

that he didn't know about,

it has the Easter bunny right by the White House.

Oh, wow.

So when you look at the top of the page, you're missing the very religious symbol of the Easter bunny.

Okay.

All right.

I did miss the very religious symbol.

Yeah.

Dang it.

I love that.

That was their legitimate defense.

They're like, yeah, look, the Easter bunny's right by the logo there.

We weren't talking about the Easter bunny.

It wasn't that Easter we were talking about.

It's like, what?

Nobody's canceling Christmas.

We have Santa Claus right there.

No.

Here's a thing: just a little hint.

Easter's not about eggs.

Easter eggs or Easter bunny eggs.

Really?

Yeah, it's not.

It's not.

So why even, seriously, why even call attention to Easter if you're this administration, if you're removing religiosity from Easter, you don't have an Easter.

That's all it's about is something religious, something sacred to Christians.

So you take that out and any reference to that, you don't even have a, you don't have a day.

So the Assistant Secretary for Health, Admiral Rachel levine who was born a man still is a man but but wears a dress uh he said that this is

that this is all nothing but a lie it's just that this sunday was easter which is a very important holiday a very important event but it also happens to be on the 31st he said you know there's a quote from yoda

oh yeah

you want to quote him uh yoda please do it.

All right.

He actually said this.

Anger leads to hate.

Hate leads to suffering.

No, how does it start?

Fear is the path.

Fear is the path to the dark side.

Fear leads to anger.

Anger leads to hate.

Hate leads to suffering.

Yes.

Yes.

No.

No.

He said, I think things will get better, and I think things for transgender and non-binary people will improve.

Can I ask you what

transgender is a dude in a dress non-binary is just like, I could be anything today.

Is that what?

Yeah, well, you're not either or

what are we looking for?

We're looking for non-binary.

Let's see if I can get a quick answer for you on that.

That just means you're not bound to either male or female.

You can write something else.

I mean, by definition, you'd assume, right?

It's not just, but it is,

it is a, described a gender that does not fit strictly within the traditional categories of male or female.

They may experience

so many of us, doesn't it?

I mean, listen to the way this is written: non-binary individuals may experience their gender identity,

may experience their gender.

God, this is just such a screwed-up country.

It is.

As being outside the binary gender framework, encompassing a wide range of gender experiences and expressions.

None of this is saying anything

that may not conform to conventional gender norms.

I just said 80 words and nothing came out of it.

Bring on the meteor.

Yeah, no, I'm rooting for the meteor.

A Christian woman says Starbucks fired her for refusing to use transgender people's pronouns.

And she said, I'm a Christian.

I cannot lie.

I cannot lie.

And

she just wasn't.

But she can monger and hate.

She can't.

Yeah, she she can do that.

Sure.

She's encouraged.

I understand.

You guys know who Richard Dawkins is, right?

Yeah, big atheist guy.

Big atheist guy.

Okay.

All right.

This is from the Washington Examiner.

Richard Dawkins, one of the world's foremost

atheists who have spent much of his career advocating his atheism and ridiculing anyone who disagrees, has some regrets.

In an interview over the weekend,

Dawkins admitted he is concerned about the decline of Christianity in the Western world and even described himself as a cultural Christian.

I do think we are culturally a Christian country, he said.

I call myself a cultural Christian.

I'm not a believer, and so you know, I love hymns and Christmas carols, and I sort of feel at home in the Christian ethos.

If we substitute Christianity with any alternate religion, that would be truly dreadful.

Wow.

Richard

Dawkins.

Wow.

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You know, I can't believe Dawkins would say what he said, but I want you to hear it from his own lips.

Here's Richard Dawkins on

Christianity.

I do think that we are culturally a Christian country.

I call myself a cultural Christian.

I'm not a believer.

But there's a distinction between being a believing Christian and being a cultural Christian.

And so, you know, I love hymns and Christmas carols, and

I sort of feel at home in the Christian ethos.

If I had to choose between Christianity and Islam, I'd choose Christianity every single time.

I mean, it seems to me to be a fundamentally decent religion in a way that I I think Islam is not.

I think you're going to have to explain why you say that, Professor Dawkins.

Why is Islam profunditiously

fundamentally not decent like Christianity?

Yes, I mean

the way women are treated.

I mean Christianity is not great about that.

It's had its problems with female vicars and female bishops and things.

But there's an active hostility to women which is promoted, I think, by the holy books of Islam.

I'm not talking about individual Muslims Muslims, who, of course, are

quite different,

but the doctrines of Islam, the Hadith and the Quran, it's fundamentally hostile to women, hostile to gays.

And

I

find

that I

like to live in a culturally Christian country, although I do not believe a single word of the Christian faith.

All I kept thinking is

you're watching a dead man, huh?

You're watching a dead man.

Who in London can get away with saying what he just said?

Oh, the Christians are going to rise up.

Oh, I mean, wait.

I mean, that is a dangerous thing to say.

There's a cancel pre-cancellation alert?

Pre-cancellation?

Well, yeah, cancellation in the big way.

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Well, people in the states are starting to push back a little bit on their renewables.

As more states see their electricity rates continue to rise with little in the way of benefits, Arizona is turning back and saying, hey, let's stop all of this global warming stuff for a while.

They're voting to pull back the renewable energy targets.

California is really leading the way not only in renewables, they went from 3% of the state's electricity generation to a mix of 25.7% last year.

They also pay the third highest electricity rates in the country, just behind Hawaii and Rhode Island.

So, which way are you going?

Some of the states are following California right off a cliff.

Speaking of California, it looks like, you know, their budget, they had a big surplus.

Yeah,

yeah.

Surplus of $97 billion.

Then they went and spent all of it.

All of it.

They doubled the general fund spending, and now they've got a giant deficit, and they don't know what to do.

Huh, isn't that weird?

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So Carol Roth is joining us.

And Carol, I sent you a story a couple of days ago about how we are now paying more in interest

than we are in, I think, Pentagon spending and Social Security.

I have heard that this time was coming for a long time.

Are we actually there?

So just to

sort of set the stage, we're not exactly there yet.

That's the only piece of good news I'm probably going to deliver to you, Glenn.

We are on a trajectory.

And this is projections that I believe came out of Bank of America.

So, you know, a Wall Street analyst came up with these projections and basically said that if we continue with interest rates where they're at, the Fed doesn't cut interest rates this year, and we continue on the spending trajectory.

He modeled that out to the end of the year and said this year we will pay $1.6 trillion in interest if nothing changes.

And if we were to hit that point, then yes, then it would become the biggest item in the budget, you know, far exceeding what was paid for the military and then even exceeding

all of those other expenses, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and the like.

So, this is the trajectory that we're moving into,

and it's a very scary one that we've been warning you about because of what is something called fiscal dominance that you guys, you and I have talked about before.

Basically, we are in a scenario where we have high debts and we have high deficits and we have inflation that is too high.

And so, when the Fed tries to do this monetary policy and to raise rates in order to bring down down that inflation, it ends up being dominated by that horrible fiscal position of the United States.

It means that the interest on the debt explodes.

It means that the deficit, because that interest is bigger, widens.

It means that we have to then finance those bigger deficits, and that puts us into a vicious cycle.

And it's something that many of us have been warning about.

And it really looks like we're sitting right in the middle of it.

And it begs the question: why didn't the Fed reset all of the loans when we were at zero?

Why didn't we take out all these loans and lock them in long term at zero?

We were there for a very long time.

Now we have all of these loans that are starting every month.

They come in and we have to reset the loans and our interest rate is high.

And that, like you said, I just really want people to understand that because

we have all of the $34 trillion

and

it is resetting all the time, different parts of it,

we're paying that high interest rate.

So what's happening with you and your credit cards is now happening with the government.

Yeah, and I actually have an answer for that, Glenn, because this was something that I was very curious about too.

You know, to me, we had near 15 years of zero interest rate or almost zero interest rate policy.

And so it would say to you, why wouldn't you go ahead and lock that zero interest rate in forever?

And there has been some really great research that I'm following that I will probably reference several times today from Luke Graham at FFT.

And he went back and he looked at central bank holdings of treasuries versus how much debt we have increased.

And over the last, I think it's 10 years,

we have increased more than $16 trillion in debt.

But at the same time, central banks have actually lightened up their reserves.

They've sold $100 billion.

So the 10 years prior to that, you had central banks that were loading up on treasuries and they were there as a buyer.

And now all of a sudden you have this huge buyer that is out of the market.

So it doesn't mean that there were no buyers.

There's certainly banks and insurance companies and other foreign buyers, but the price that they would have had to pay wouldn't have been zero.

And I think that's the reality.

And that's an important piece of the discussion that we're having today is that

the federal government, even though everybody else may say, well, I can still get a loan or I can still do this, the federal government is having a very difficult time getting long-term loans, in particular, at an interest rate that is anywhere near acceptable and that would keep the treasury market from going into mass chaos.

So here's the problem.

They need to keep the interest rate low for them, but they don't have any buyers.

And the way you increase the buyers is you offer them more money.

In other words, a higher interest rate.

And you say, no, look, we'll pay you back, you know, 4%, 6%, 8%, whatever it takes to get people to buy the bonds.

Nobody's buying.

And if they keep raising the interest rates, our debt completely cripples us.

You can't pay the interest rates.

Yeah, this is why I have been saying and still believe that the Fed is going to be forced to pivot.

They want to keep these interest rates high in an effort to try to control inflation.

But the U.S.

government and their rampant spending,

their dereliction and their financial duty to be responsible has created that as an impossibility and is now meaning that if you keep interest rates high, that in and of itself will also stoke inflation.

So the Fed has been doing a lot of things in its toolkit to become more accommodative.

When you talk about lowering rates, it's more accommodative or looser fiscal policy.

And while they haven't come out to do that quantitative easing, the straight-up buying of the bonds that we saw that brought their balance sheet from a couple trillion dollars up to almost $9 trillion,

they've been doing a lot of things that look and taste and feel a lot like that in jerome powell's last press conference he's basically said our policy of taking uh letting the assets on the balance sheet run off we're going to slow that down so now they're going to still be in the market buying a little bit more and the last thing that they're holding out on because remember it's an election year is lowering that interest rate at some point that's going to be the only thing that they have left other than just you know a wholesale um buying of bonds program and they're going to have to do that.

And what that's going to do, boys and girls, this is the important thing, is that is going to re-stoke inflation.

Anybody who is an asset holder is going to see their assets melt up, continue to rise in value, and the middle class, the working class is going to continue to get crushed because this is the basically one of the only things that they have available to them, or certainly the only one that they're going to be willing to enact is to inflate the debt away.

Well, that's happy news.

So what does the average person do, Carol?

Buy stuff now?

It is a really tough, tough question.

It's one that I have multiple times on a daily basis.

And, you know, it's a horrible scenario that we have to be in this discussion and worry about the American dream slipping away because we know asset prices have already increased.

And so I do think that if you are in the middle and working class and you're worried, you've got to do everything you can to try to get your expenses down and to live with as much austerity as you can to have some money to put them into a diverse portfolio of assets.

You know, things like

hard metals, you know, the gold and the silver, some stocks, you know, real estate to the extent you can.

And I know that I can just hear right now, Glenn, people are yelling and saying, but Carol, I can barely afford my rent or my mortgage or my groceries.

And I understand this is a horrible, horrible position that the government and the Federal Reserve has put every American into.

And

we just have to do the best that we can to try to hold on to something to preserve some level of wealth because this is what we are facing because we don't have the fortitude of politicians who are willing to do the hard work.

They weren't willing in the Biden administration to go through a small, you know, a longer-term recession.

We had a tiny recession, but to make that a little bit longer term, to help normalize us, normalize things and get some breathing room.

And I think that politicians are going to continue to act like politicians.

So you have to be prepared for that.

So Art Laffer told me years ago when we were talking about the interest rates, and I said, if we keep just printing money like this, there's going to come a time where you have have to raise the interest rates.

And, you know, I said, Art, when you did it, it was, you know, 18, 19%

interest rates.

And I said, you can't do that to the economy in this scenario, can you?

And he said, no, it will stop the heart of the economy.

It just collapses at that point because it's too weak.

You can't,

everything stops.

It's a different time.

This is what people need to understand because they're going to go back and look historically at other periods in the United States and say, well, this is what we did then.

And this is what we did then.

It's different now.

We don't have that luxury because we have debt to GDP that exceeds 120%.

We have the balance sheet of basically an emerging market in crisis that would have put it, you know, a while ago if we didn't have the world's reserve currency, which we know that a lot of folks are trying to get away from.

We didn't have $34 trillion in debt and a massive deficit that just kept running and running.

We didn't have all of these interest payments that were going to pay for things that we've already bought and not new spending.

So we are in a different world here today.

And as we've talked about before, you get close to that cliff and eventually you come off and you never know that exact point in time, but we are speeding towards it.

Just look at how fast the debt, the deficits, the interest, how fast this is growing.

It is starting to spiral away from us.

Back in just a second, Stu, do you remember when we had

when we were talking about Obamacare?

And I think the government at that point, if they took Obamacare, they would

rule about 30, 25 to 30% of

the economy.

Do you remember that?

I don't remember the statistic, but I do remember the general conversation.

The general conversation.

And it wasn't that high.

I mean, it was like 30%.

And we were like, oh my gosh, it's almost 49% now that the economy is driven, almost half of it is driven by government spending.

Incredible.

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So, are we at the point now, Carol, that there's no way to pay this back?

So, there's always a way.

And there are different, right?

There's, well, there's different mechanisms.

The first thing is that we could have growth.

And obviously, growth is our path forward.

But realistically, to get us in a really good place, we would need some sort of what is called a productivity miracle.

We would need someone to make a breakthrough on quantum computing or nuclear fission, you know, energy or, you know, something like that.

That's like a massive, massive leap forward.

And I think that could happen.

Yeah, I mean, it can.

It can.

And those are the things that we should be focused on because that is our key forward.

Certainly just, you know, regular, you know, three plus percent growth, which again, for us is pretty high, will get us to a place where we can kind of pause and maybe deal with it.

So we have to be focused on growth.

We have to focus certainly on cutting the size of government.

That is a non-issue, but we have to do that in a way that is in that's balanced.

We can't just kind of slash all at once as much as I would like to because of this precarious situation, because that means then that could have an impact on the economy.

We won't get enough revenue and we're still going to be in this deficit situation.

So we have that piece of it.

And then of course, there is the inflating of the debt scenario, which is the worst for all of us.

So there are these different mechanisms, but you have to ask yourself on a human nature basis, you know, what is the likely stance going to be of politicians, what's in it for them versus what's in it for us.

And also, you know, can we really bet on this growth and productivity, particularly since everything the government seems to do is throwing up barriers to growth instead of trying to have, you know, real free market-driven growth.

So we do have a path forward here, but the path forward is filled with these horrible trolls on the side of the road called politicians and government, and they're the ones not letting us through, Glenn.

So

let me switch to California.

California is has gone insane as well.

Gone?

Yeah, I know.

Well, I mean, I told Stu earlier today, we thought we were living in a world of insanity, but now it has become just almost like a clown show

to where, you know, guys,

guys, I mean, what are you doing?

You know,

they've made their prisons smaller.

They've released a lot of people from prison,

and then they went and they spent $3.4 billion

on a new prison system.

And it's now costing $159,000 per prisoner to keep them.

They've spent so much money.

Department of Developmental Services more than doubled, up 117%.

The Department of Social Services up 89%.

Healthcare Services 87%.

They're just spending money and they're spending themselves into oblivion.

Yeah, so, you know, when we talk about

the federal debt, we're not talking about the state's debt, too.

So you take a state like California, which is supposed to be this rocking economy where Gavin Newsom bragged when he got those COVID dollars that they had a quote-unquote surplus, and now they have a massive deficit.

And I believe I saw the debt number was something like $1.6 trillion.

Does that sound right?

Yeah, it does.

Let me look it up.

You keep talking.

I'll look it up for you.

So it's something, and what is so frustrating, in addition to California being the incubator of all bad ideas in America.

You guys can laugh and say, oh, Californians voted for this, but if it starts in California, it's going to seep out like a bad flu or something to the rest of the country.

So you have to pay attention.

But what's so frustrating, whether it's California or the rest of the nation, is they're spending all this money.

And what are we getting for it?

This is our money.

We're not making our lives better.

We don't have better infrastructure.

We have a poorest border.

We have more crime.

We have inflation.

What is the average American getting for this?

Nothing.

Our lives are worse off.

Carol, as always, thank you.

God bless you.

Try to bring us some good news next time, will you?

I'm trying.

I promise.

All right.

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You know, we were talking about the debt, and

Carol kept saying,

Carol kept saying,

you know, if nothing doesn't change, if something doesn't change soon,

we're not going to be able to overcome this.

And the one thing that could change it for a while is all of a sudden just rapid growth, rapid growth.

And I think you could get that from a Donald Trump because he'll cut all of these regulations that we just did.

Remember, low regulations, low legal costs,

a stable environment,

educated workers, and energy.

That's what made America what America was.

So he can go in and he can give low energy.

He can go in and cut all of these regulations.

And he could give it more of a pro-growth, pro-business kind of, and I mean small business.

I don't mean the big business, small business attitude.

And he can create jobs like that and increase our productivity, I believe.

I think so.

I think he'll definitely help those things.

I mean, we are in a weird

problematic pattern here where we just keep having one president that goes one way and changes all the regulations, and then the next guy comes in for four years and changes all the regulations.

We're not doing it through the law.

We're doing it through executive orders and administrative.

And look, much better to do it that way than 8, 12, 16 years of all sorts of regulations.

I'd rather have it improve when a Republican president is going to do it.

There's a difference between a law and a regulation.

Regulation wasn't passed into law.

Regulation is just a council of people that you don't know, never met, who went, you know what, we're going to do this.

We need to be a country of laws, not regulations.

Right.

And we were going through that Supreme Court

ruling or a case recently where they were talking about Mifiprestone, the abortion drug.

And, you know, that was, again, just a regulation.

Like these, the regulations can change.

They can just switch when a new president comes in.

Trump will definitely do a much, much better job than than Biden.

I mean, these are the lowest hurdles in the world I'm describing, but Trump will clear all of them very easily and do a really good job cutting regulation.

That's one of the things he's good at.

Spending, you know, it's another story.

Right.

But he could buy us time.

He could buy us time.

He only has four years, so who he picks as vice president is crucial.

Is crucial.

I don't know that he switches too many votes.

I don't know that it's a huge decision as far as...

No, but that's the future of the Republican Party.

Right.

That person probably, although, I mean, people would have said the same thing about Mike Pence, I suppose, back in the day, and that didn't turn out.

So who knows?

But he would be the most likely next candidate in 2028.

Correct.

So, but one of the things that Carol said really hit me as she was describing our financial situation.

She's describing, basically, it's completely unsustainable if things don't change.

And at some level, when you make projections like that, it can give you misleading results, right?

Like, oh, if things don't change like if I if I were to say to you hey you know your son's offer I'm looking at your finances your son's ordering off uber Eats every night and if this does not happen

I'm in a few of your accounts no big deal so don't don't look for those transfers right but hey if you things don't change with all your your your kids uber eats orders um you could be in trouble you're not you're gonna you're gonna be in debt you're not gonna you're not gonna be able to pay your credit card bill that's talking to the individual because things would change.

Things would change.

They would say, Rafe!

Knock it off.

No more.

Nor Buffalo Wild Wings.

Right.

No more.

Right.

Like, you'd make the change.

So, in some ways, like, projecting if things don't change, you're going to go bankrupt is stupid because things change.

Things do change.

When you realize these things are an issue, you change those issues.

Are you saying that the government won't change?

No.

I am not saying that.

Listen carefully.

Because if things don't change is not how you can project the government's spending.

Things will change.

They will get worse.

They will much

spend more.

They will spend more.

We know they will have new ideas

of program after program after program.

Let me just give you the Francis Scott Key Bridge that

Joe Biden is saying he's going to pay for, which will now be renamed something definitely different.

Right.

Wait a minute.

Hang on just a second.

Wouldn't it be weird if that bridge didn't have insurance?

That's a good question.

I hadn't really thought of that.

He's saying he's going to pay for it, so that's why I haven't really considered that.

But you're right.

Didn't that have insurance?

That's a good question.

I don't know.

Yeah.

You'd think it would.

You'd think it would.

Yeah.

But I don't know.

It's a pretty expensive thing.

Yes, like buildings.

And that's why

buildings don't have insurance.

Of course they have insurance.

The Empire State Building has insurance.

Everyone has insurance.

Brick World Trade Center has insurance.

Why doesn't the Francis Scott Key not have insurance?

And if it does have insurance, why are we worrying about it?

That's fascinating.

I had not thought of that.

But broadening this, every two weeks, there's another reason they come up with to spend another $100 million or $100 billion.

May I give you a better scenario here?

As they continue to spend and as

things get more and more expensive because of inflation, the American people will demand, you've got to help us out.

And they'll just keep spending money to help you until we're a fully socialized country, until they're the only ones spending money.

Yeah, and this is something that I think people miss a lot of times when they look at the way the government operates and the way the left is operating right now.

We talk a lot about like, hey, we shouldn't pass policies that are socialist, right?

Like if they tried to right now come out and say, hey,

we're going to turn into a socialist country, no ownership, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, everyone would reject it.

I mean, it would lose at this point, I would say 90 to 10, but maybe more like 70, 30 at this point.

But it would lose in the United States, quite clearly.

But what they do is they take elements of that and they package it in popular ideas.

The most, the easiest one to understand is the minimum wage.

Well, it's really hard to pitch to people, hey, we're going to redistribute wealth, right?

We're going to take money from these people and give it to these people.

Everyone will be like, wait, that's not the American way.

But when you say, we're going to raise the minimum wage to 15, 20, 25, we heard $50 an hour from a representative recently.

When you do that, which is a policy overwhelmingly popular, 70% and 80% approval, which means a lot of Republicans say yes, raise the minimum wage.

You do it that way, you have the same outcome.

And what happens?

You close businesses.

Businesses go out.

You need to now pay more unemployment.

Yep.

You need to have a new program to create and re-educate new people for new jobs.

So they've created dependency.

And then they've created new problems, new programs, because they created this other problem

by raising the unemployment or by raising the rate.

So now they have all of these programs that also grow in size.

And people are like, yeah, you got to take care of us.

You have to.

I can't afford my health insurance anymore.

And that will be approved too, 60%, 70%.

And as Thomas Sowell has pointed out, the actual minimum wage is $0,

right?

So a lot of those people who are making

$725 to $15 will get laid off.

And those people will also need to be helped and become dependent on the government.

And everyone will approve that policy, too.

And so, like, this is a way you slowly implement this nonsense over a long period of time.

And honestly, a lot of people on the right fall for it.

Well, look, I have always believed we should raise the

Social Security age to the age just as it started,

to the age of death, of the average life expectancy.

Yes.

So, you know, what are we up to now?

You're asking for like six months and everybody rejects it.

Everybody rejects it, but it should have been raised as it goes.

As it goes.

So, because it was never designed to be a 20-year plan or a 15 or a 10.

It wasn't designed to be a one-year plan.

It's what you always used to call it.

SSI, right?

Social Security

insurance.

In case this thing happens that we don't expect to happen, that you outlive your spouse by 10 or 12 years, then you'll have something to fall back on.

That was the design of the program.

And it was designed to take care of the women, not the men, because men generally died at, I think, 62.

That's why it was 65.

Okay, so the men were probably dead by 65, but women lived a little longer.

And so we took care of the widows.

That's what this was.

We're not doing that now.

Now, this is a retirement fund.

How did that happen?

And one that could sell you a terrible return on your investment.

Horrible, horrible.

Absolutely horrible.

It's a disaster.

Back in just a second.

Inflation starts off subtle,

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You might not even really feel it at first.

Then slowly you start to notice that your money isn't going as far.

What you're experiencing right now is inflation.

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And it's going to get worse.

At shopping cart, I went to the store, when was it?

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And it was like $56 and it was one bag.

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What?

How does this happen?

This is just an ugly, ugly thing called inflation.

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I had dinner with Chuck Norris last night.

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Yeah, intentionally, just because I know you're a Chuck Norris fan.

Sure.

Who isn't a Chuck Norris fan?

Yeah.

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But I don't think you've had dinner with him, have you?

I have not.

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Well, I brought up something,

and

I'd just like to hear from the sheriffs of Texas.

The Sheriffs Association of Texas, I have a letter

here that is one, two, three, four, five, five, six pages of just signatures, okay?

Six pages of signatures.

Every sheriff in the great state of Texas went to the governor

of Texas and said, hey,

I think we need to do a little more here.

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Go a little on the border?

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As sheriffs, we must must faithfully preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States and Texas.

We respectfully request that our Texas border be immediately secured by any lawful means.

We recognize the indisputable and unprecedented atrocities occurring at our southern border.

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The Texas sheriffs, we are, as Texas sheriffs, we are compelled by this petition to adhere to our constitutional oath.

We stand in unity.

So did anybody get that message?

Because there was a photo op

and then that was it.

Tomorrow I want to talk about this.

I want to see if we can get some of the sheriffs on

to talk about why this letter was so important.

The language is very strong.

Was it meant to be a photo op?

Or was this meant to get the governor and the United States government on the stick?

And if they don't get on the stick, what then?

Because every word of this letter is correct.

It's crimes against humanity on our border.

Are we all just to stand around and wait for our governor or wait for our president or Congress, which has absolutely no intention of doing anything?

Maybe we'll find out from the sheriffs tomorrow.

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You know, the World Economic Forum has discussed how you're going to be broke.

You won't own anything.

And how much you're going to love it.

You're just going to love it.

You won't own anything.

Well, wait a minute.

How do you square that with a nation that understands property rights, that it is one of our God-given rights to own our own stuff, to own property.

Well,

well, that's going to have to change.

Now, how do you do that?

Well, you inflate the money by spending way, way, way too much.

That causes people to spend too much money because they can't afford food and housing.

And you also do little things like, I don't know, make it almost impossible for people to get insurance because the insurance rates are going through the roof.

Then you have that wonderful little thing about state income taxes, or in the case of Texas, you have property tax, which I think is absolutely immoral.

Property tax is immoral.

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Well, in California, it looks like

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We're going to talk to a California state assemblyman about what they're doing to property rights in California in 60 seconds.

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Bill O'Saly is with us, California State Assemblyman.

Welcome to the program, sir.

How are you?

Good morning, Glenn.

Thank you for having me.

So you say that California property rights are under attack.

How exactly?

Well, California historically has had strong property rights protections.

We have this Proposition 13 that was passed by the voters in the late 70s, and it did really two things.

It limited how much your property taxes could go up based on appreciation.

It caps it at no more than, I believe, 2% a year.

And what that did is it's kept property taxes historically low in California because when property values go up very quickly, the state would love to reassess the value and tax it.

So that has historically kept us with lower than usual property tax.

The other thing Prop 13 did, and this is what's really under attack right now, it said to the government that if you want to raise taxes on the people of the state of California, you need to submit, you need to get a two-thirds approval, either through the legislature or through the voters to raise taxes.

And we've had this high bar now for forever.

What happens, though, and this is what the left does, they never stop and they look for loopholes.

Well, the court gave them a loophole and said, oh, but that's a tax initiated or sponsored by the government.

If there's there's a tax proposed by a private person or a union goon, that's not subject to the two-thirds requirement.

Wait.

So

how does the union goon have standing to propose taxes?

Private citizens in Calvin, we have the initiative process.

We're a direct democracy in some sense under our Constitution.

So citizens have the ability to place measures on the ballot.

So the Howard Jarvis Association, who's who initially wrote Prop 13, has now come back with a new initiative and says, no, no, no, we're going to close that loophole.

It's a taxpayer protection ballot initiative.

And guess what?

We've gotten the signatures to put that on the ballot and to close all these loopholes.

And it will ban things like they're doing now.

They want to do income-based electricity prices.

So the more money you make, the more they charge you for electricity, all this crazy stuff.

So we got this on the ballot.

How do the Democrats respond?

They're putting a competing ballot initiative that says if you put anything on the ballot that raises a threshold to vote, so from majority to two-thirds, your initiative has to pass by two-thirds vote.

And this is a poison pill.

And that's what the legislatures put on the ballot now.

So they put that on to try to kill it.

So it's very difficult to pass a constitutional amendment on two-thirds, which is what this is.

And at the same time, Glenn, they've gone to the California Supreme Court.

They've made some,

they're not even coherent arguments, to get the court to take off our ballot, our taxpayer protection initiative off the ballot.

That's what the left does here in the state of California.

So so so wait a minute.

So what's on the ballot?

What is on the ballot?

There are two competing initiatives.

The first is our initiative, which is the good one.

It's going to close the loopholes.

Which is,

what is the proposition number?

They won't give us the numbers yet, so I can't even tell you.

You'll have to have me back.

They play all kinds of games to make it hard for us to campaign.

So we don't have the numbers yet.

We will get them sometime this year.

The second initiative is one put on by the legislature, Glenn, and that says if you're going to raise the threshold to raise taxes, your initiative on the ballot has to pass by the same number, by the two-thirds number.

Prop 13 didn't even pass by two-thirds.

So this is the type of gamesmanship that they're more than happy to do here in California because it's all about serving their party.

It's all about getting more money to the state and the people be damned.

How much does the state need?

Because you had a surplus, you've blown through that.

Now you have a deficit.

And if they can just continue to raise taxes, they will.

They will.

And they'll drive everybody out of California.

Our budget is totally out of control, Glenn.

Last year was about $300 billion, which is about double than what it was in the previous decade.

So we have plenty of money.

But what happens is when they get a windfall like the COVID money, we got $100 billion surplus.

As a business person, you would say, well, that's not money we could expect to get every year, right?

So we would do maybe one-time spending or put it in the reserve.

No,

they spend it on ongoing programs that are not sustainable.

So now we're facing that.

We have...

According to the governor of California, Gavin Newsom, he says, oh, it's only about a $38 billion deficit.

Well, the legislative analyst office, who does tend to be nonpartisan, says, no, it's actually $73 billion.

And we have a budget deadline, Glenn, at the end of June, we have to pass a balanced budget.

These Democrats up here are in total denial.

They've not cut anything.

And these people we've had up here, because of term limits, have never been here to cut any.

They've never cut anything.

They barely cut their hair.

So I don't know what's going to happen here in June, but we have a financial cliff, and I think they will be more than happy to raise taxes than to cut any of their precious programs that they've passed.

Can we talk about the other erosion of property rights, and that is the home squatters?

Yes.

This is nuts.

It is nuts.

So this goes back, you have to understand neo-Marxism.

I call it neo-Marxism because it's a new thing now.

They don't talk about Marxism.

They talk about people who are oppressed and people who need help.

Correct.

And so now the people who need help, Glenn, are the renters, the poor renters who are being taken advantage of by the mean, greedy landlords who keep

raising rent.

And so they've built in all these protections that make it very impossible to kick people off property who are not paying rent, or let alone they're just squatters.

They're people who showed up and moved in.

And the police will not lift a finger because the laws are written in such a sense that you have to go to court to evict even a squatter.

And good luck.

It takes months to go through the court system.

And for a while, during COVID, we had an eviction moratorium.

For over two years, you couldn't even go to court to get an eviction.

And it all, you know, there's two ways to seize property, Glenn.

It's either through force to the government, or in this way, they're letting the people that they've deemed to be oppressed to seize the property of other people.

And they don't care.

I mean, we have in the legislature very unserious activists who run the legislature.

They're not serious people.

They just formed, and

it's embarrassing.

They formed the Renters Caucus because they're proud of how many legislators in the state are renters.

You know, they're not even home.

These are adults.

They've never had a mortgage, and they're proud to be renters, and they're going to look out for the other renters.

That's the people running this place.

God.

I don't know.

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Okay, Bart on Friday, this is for Northern California, Bay Area, rapid transit.

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When writers believe they're witnessing others being harassed, they can hand out the I've got you card to the perceived victim.

Now, I don't know exactly what these cards are supposed to do, and I don't know if I'm being beaten up.

I don't know if I can reach into my pocket to get my stack of do you have me cards.

I mean,

the people in California have gone insane.

I've said it, Glenn.

They have unserious people up here running the legislature.

Most of them are former union activists.

A lot of them are former staffers.

They're people who've never done anything in the real world.

They're here to serve the state.

Not just Democrats, by the way.

That's on both sides.

So we need serious people to step up to run for office.

That's one of the reasons I ran.

I gave up my job as a prosecutor to come up here and serve.

And I bring the perspective of the people and I don't you know when I'm in these meetings they say oh but we have to fund this agency or they're gonna lay off I go I don't care we don't have the money defund them I will not vote for the budget because it is not balanced and I'm one of the few Republicans who votes no down the line on the entire budget and the others you know they're afraid of being called names because there might be a nice program in there that you know helps people I don't care.

But we need serious people in office to take control back of our government.

It is the senior staff and these activists are running the joint here in California.

So, what is the plan for these people who don't want to cut the budget when you have a balanced budget amendment?

You know, Gwen, this is a good question.

I don't know what they're going to do because, like I said, we have a deadline in June and they're going to have to make tough cuts.

Now, one thing that came on my radar is what Senator Paul introduced an amendment in the Senate that did not pass, but it really raised alarm flags for me.

And he had an amendment to ban the feds from buying up state debt.

so

can the can the feds

intervene intervene and buy up the state's debt because I'll tell you the people up here do not walk around with any concern I feel like something's up but you know but you know in 2008 we learned an important lesson gland and there was some entities are too big to fail and if we bailed out the banks Do we really think they're not going to bail out the states?

So I don't know to answer your question, but I'm very suspicious.

If they bail California out,

I think you're going to hear

voices from all over the country.

I mean, I've always wanted to live in California, but the people there are so insane that they wrecked living there because of all of their stupid, impossible schemes.

And

I just couldn't live there because I'm not paying that kind of tax for things that are not going to work.

And if you guys pass on your debt to us,

oh my gosh,

I'm going to have a really hard time paying my taxes.

Really hard time.

Really hard time.

I don't blame you.

But this is what I worry about because they feel at the end of the day, the feds will be there to build them up.

Uncle Joe will come to their rescue

is sort of the vibe I get up here.

But I can't, I don't have any direct knowledge.

They don't include me in any serious conversation in the super majority.

But go ahead.

This is the symptom when you have a super majority government, a party that is totally out of control, the Democrat Party here in California, and they serve one thing, their own power and their own party.

It is party over country, and I see it firsthand.

And people really need to make a change.

And I advocate in California.

If people say, what can Republicans do?

I don't like to be always down.

down in the dumps.

And I said, we got to learn from the Democrats and how they win elections.

We don't go run on a 10-point plan with all these nuances.

We got to pick an issue in California that is wildly popular and that's emotional and it resonates with voters.

The Democrats pick abortion.

I personally think the issue of Republican voters should be parental rights.

They are coming for your kids.

They want to indoctrinate them.

They're going to transition them at school.

They're not even going to tell you.

They're going to let your girl get out compete by a boy, and they're going to medically sterilize your kids.

How can anyone stand for the sterilization of children?

children we're going to look back at this glen and say what the hell were we doing sterilizing children and that should be the issue of the republican party um it's been a tough sell to to the party bosses but i'll tell you at the grassroots level it really resonates yeah of course it does that's our issue of course it does they'll listen to the party

these these republicans that are running things are just the biggest dopes in the world they continue to lose time and time again and then say well, it's because we didn't do it, you know, right enough.

Well, that sounds like a Marxist on why it always fails.

Bill, thank you so much.

Bill Isaley, he is a California State Assemblyman.

Keep up the hard work.

God bless you.

I don't know how you stay sane.

No, thank you, Glenn.

Happy to be here.

And if anyone wants to follow us, they can, as Bill isaly at on our social stuff.

Thank you.

Okay, thank you.

By the way, it's spelled E-S-S-A-Y-L-I.

What a California way to spell you say.

You should find an easier way.

I mean, I know it's your name and everyone, but give us a break, man.

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Glenn, how are you?

You know.

Nice of you to ask two and a half hours into the show.

Let's see.

Well, that's what one would do that doesn't actually care about the answer.

Hmm.

That's what one would do if they didn't care about the answer.

Are you still talking?

Yes.

Unfortunately, yes.

Yeah.

okay what haven't we hit yet we've got steve friend coming in uh center for uh renewing american fellow uh

he is um

uh he's the fbi whistleblower and um

there's an upcoming bill in tennessee that is going to require the fbi to receive approval from the chief law enforcement officer in each national security investigation.

I think this is fantastic.

So in other words, you're doing something on one of our citizens, you got to go see the sheriff.

I like that.

I like that a lot.

It would protect the citizens of the states from an overreach because they're just going in

to places and

just

walking in and doing whatever they want.

You've talked about this before.

What's the significance of the sheriff in our system?

The sheriff is supposed to, well,

he only answers to the people and the Constitution.

He doesn't answer to the governor.

He doesn't answer to commissioner or anybody else.

He is directly responsible for the people and the Constitution.

So when you come in and you're serving a warrant,

you're supposed to go to the sheriff and say, hey, we're serving this warrant because he's the chief law enforcement person in the county.

So you go to him and then he watches the FBI and watches you, protects you, or makes sure that everything that the FBI is giving you is legit and

is protecting you from an out-of-control government.

That's what they're supposed to do.

This law will make sure that that happens.

Seems like an improvement if we actually utilize that function.

Yeah.

I don't know that we do.

Doesn't seem like we do.

Well, no, we don't.

We don't.

Some sheriffs do.

They demand it.

Other sheriffs don't.

If you're voting for a sheriff, you need to ask them about, hey, you know, your relationship with the FBI, is it really tight and cozy?

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So the FBI comes to town and they're investigating, you know, let's say a parent for being a terrorist because they spoke out at the school board meeting.

And the sheriff deputies and some of the police officers are asked by the FBI, Joint Terrorism Task Force, to join.

And they do.

And then they find out what the case is all about.

Well, the sheriff or the police chief doesn't have any right to know because they don't have a need to know, according to the FBI.

So

your funds for the state are going to this task force, and you don't even know what they're doing.

Are they wasting money by going after somebody who, you know, was praying at an abortion clinic.

Steve Friend is

here now.

He's a Center for Renewing America fellow.

He's an FBI whistleblower.

He objected to being part of the January 6th raids.

Steve, welcome to the program.

Great to be with you, Glenn.

Thanks for having me this morning.

You bet.

Okay, so you're just trying to put up a line of defense of the people

using the last really constitutional string that you have, and that is the sheriff's office,

right?

Precisely.

And this is really just 101 stuff.

It's a very simple bill that is on the table here in Tennessee.

It's Senate Bill 2804, House Bill 2912, and essentially just says that the sheriff has to be read in and approve of any of the terrorism investigations that his deputies who are on loan to the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force, any of the cases that they're working on.

And it will create sort of a bulwark because the FBI then has to bring it to the chief elected law enforcement official who the people voted for.

The people don't vote for an FBI.

They vote for their sheriff.

And not for nothing, he should be aware if there's a legitimate terrorism threat in his county.

That's his charge.

Let me read this entire bill, and it's quite a bill.

Amend Senate Bill No.

2804, House Bill 2912, by deleting all language after the enacting clause and substituting Section 1, Tennessee Code annotated Title 38, Chapter 8, Part 1, is amended by adding the following new section.

Now, here's where the rubber meets the road to see if you can follow this.

In the event a law enforcement agency within the state nominates personnel to be deputized as a federal task force

officer on a joint terrorism task force, the chief law enforcement officer from the nominee's respective law enforcement agency must approve each national security investigation in which the nominee participates.

Then he gets into a very complicated Section 2.

This act takes effect July 1st, 2024.

I mean,

that's an easy-to-read bill and very, very clear.

What kind of opposition are you coming up against?

Well, unfortunately, the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security, which is an arm of the governor's office, has opposed us on every avenue here with this.

And the communications we've received from them is they don't feel that sheriffs are entitled to know about what they work with the FBI on.

So they're all in for the federalization of law enforcement, which is pretty acconstitutional from any conservative standpoint.

So, what is their excuse for saying the sheriff, the only elected enforcement in the whole group here?

How come the sheriff doesn't have a right to know?

They believe that it will impede their ability to work with the FBI.

I think that the FBI is a pretty symbiotic relationship with a lot of these state-level agencies.

The Tennessee Bureau of Investigations has expressed

opposition as well to us doing this.

And I think that they are in with the FBI, and the FBI gives them the goodies, and they get the credentials, and they are all in for what's going on at a higher level.

And it's the nature of of as you move up the chain of command within our government structures, you sort of feel like the plebeian swine at the lowest level, even if it's a sheriff, isn't entitled to know what you are working on from on high, which is opposing anything that we expect of our law enforcement agencies.

I mean, we want to keep the community safe, and we elect the sheriff to do that.

We elect him to bring crime down, to confront terrorism.

And if he's unable to do that because he doesn't have a need to know from the FBI's perspective, he's unable to fulfill that charge and he can't do his job.

And we should not be at a state level paying deputies or police officers using those funds that the taxpayers provide to the state

to go and do the bidding of the federal government.

And we don't have any oversight of it.

We've disempowered local law enforcement.

And if you want to make the argument that we're all about supporting police and we don't want to defund the police, this is empowering local police where it really matters.

So is this mainly for to stop the people that are praying at the abortion clinic or the abuse of parents who are called terrorists?

That's really what the genesis of the motivating factor here is we've been able to galvanize support across the aisle as well.

There were some Democrats in the House that were intrigued by the argument I was making because the FBI has clearly broadly overinterpreted its national security mandate.

We're seeing things where they're starting to articulate and connect First Amendment protected activity to some of the things that they deem to be within their purview.

So you have the recent argument about Christian nationalism.

Well, the FBI has a caveat that says that they don't investigate First Amendment protected activity like the right to speak or religious worship.

However, they're using these quote-unquote nonpartisan organizations like the Public Religion Research Institute, which generates a report and says that Christianity is refracted through a lens of white supremacy.

And now the FBI is cooking with gas because because they can say, well, we do investigate racially motivated violent extremism.

So we're going to go and investigate people who say have a preference for the Latin mass when they attend at their parish and recruit people to inform on them so that we can open assessments on them as anti-government extremists.

And this,

hopefully, you know, the sheriffs are open to,

you know, investigations on actual terrorism,

no matter who it's from, no matter which side it's from, but actual terrorism.

And this would protect the people.

It would not allow the sheriff, however, to alert the people or stand alongside the people if they're being investigated for praying at church.

It just means

nobody's going to be using the local or county or state money to help on that.

Right?

Yes, and I think as a sheriff who's elected by the people, if the FBI says, well, we want your deputies as task force officers here to work on investigating a mom and a school board, and the sheriff opposes that, he'll pull his people out.

And I would imagine he would be rather loud about that and let his people know that the FBI is doing something, even if it violates a security clearance, because that's an inappropriate investigation.

I would hope that a constitutional sheriff would focus on that rather than a mere clearance, as many whistleblowers have lost theirs for transient reasons within our federal government.

Well, as our government has lost control of

the police force,

you know, the federal police force, the only elected law enforcement official is your sheriff.

And if when you're going in to vote for a sheriff, you better ask him, who do you work for?

And what does that mean?

What happens if the FBI comes in and they are doing an investigation on parents at the school board?

Where do you stand on that?

You have to have serious conversations with your sheriff

if you have a sheriff up for election.

They are critical to this.

Now, in Tennessee, you're trying to pass this.

When does it go up, and how can we help?

Oh, thank you for this.

So the Senate Judiciary Committee is actually taking this under consideration today at 2 p.m.

Eastern Time.

They will be looking at it.

And then the House is looking at it.

And that's Senate Bill 2804, House Bill 2912.

And the House Criminal Justice Subcommittee is taking this up tomorrow.

So if folks in Tennessee or around the country want to reach out to the members of those

respective committees to express support for this, that would be a huge help.

I mean, this audience, my friend Garrett Aboyle felt the weight of this audience when we were here talking about his store.

He had more sales in two days than he had in the entire history of his store.

So I know the Glenbeck audience is

down to support this sort of initiative.

Yeah, and they also just got a very important initiative passed in Tennessee, I think, here recently.

This audience is really, truly amazing.

Okay, so if you are in Tennessee,

you want to call the Tennessee Senate.

It's in committee tomorrow.

What committee is it?

The Senate is today.

The Senate Judiciary Committee is having this at 2 o'clock Eastern.

And tomorrow, the House has it in front of a subcommittee under the criminal justice.

Okay.

Subcommittee of Criminal Justice.

That's tomorrow.

That's the House.

You can call them today.

And the Senate Judiciary Committee is meeting at 2 p.m.

today, so you want to call them.

And again, you're looking in the House

at the bill number 2912

2912 and the senate bill 2804 if you can't remember the name of the bill what what what would they just call it it something simple so people would know

it's just basically being called an fbi bill uh by by the layperson there everyone sort of knows what people are talking about okay and again this is empowering the local sheriff this is nothing to do uh it's not going to limit your ability to keep the community safe it just says that the chief law enforcement officer who's elected by the people should should know what is going on, and that should not impede any righteous investigations.

And we'll actually bring the FBI back into focus on what they should be focusing on rather than moms at school boards or people who like to go to lab mask.

Steve, you're a very brave man.

Thank you so much.

God bless you.

Thank you, Glenn.

God bless your audience.

Trying to get this out of the committee's Judiciary Committee today and the House Subcommittee on Criminal Activity tomorrow in Tennessee.

Call them and say the sheriff and the FBI bill, you want to go in for a full vote.

Pass this in committee.

That's in Tennessee today.

So if you're looking to buy or sell a home or both, someone says, you know, I know a person, most of the time,

run, run.

The person in question probably, you know, dips his or her pinky toe into the real estate business after watching a real estate video on YouTube.

And the rest of the time, they're sacking groceries, if you're lucky.

Believe me, I know I have dealt with my fair share of them.

What you really want, what you need when you're dealing with

something as complicated as a real estate transaction, you need somebody who is dedicated, a professional real estate agent, who knows all of the best practices, who's going to be able to walk into a room and tell you everything you need to do to prepare your house, and who's going to help you put a team together.

You really need somebody who's going to be in that corner and find somebody with real estate agents.

I trust.

That's where you can find them.

Just tell us where you're moving from and moving to.

If you have a house that you need to sell, that you know, I'm afraid of squatters.

Maybe it's a parent's house.

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This is the Glenn Beck program.

So, you know, California and New York mainly are having real problems with squatters, people coming in.

Stu, when somebody comes in and just claims that your house is their house,

that

I

mean, it's

stealing, right?

That's what I would call it.

Yes.

Yeah, right.

We keep calling it squatting as if it's something different than just stealing someone's home.

Like grand theft house.

Right.

We have grand theft auto.

Grand theft home.

Maybe.

I don't know.

Whatever it is.

It should be there.

You'd think that there'd be more of a penalty than just even removal.

Like, even as we're upgrading the charges and the punishments for these people, there were like, ah, well, before we let them just live there, now we're going to remove them if they get caught doing this.

How about they get thrown in prison for the rest of their lives?

You know what I like?

Kind of where I would start.

This is Florida Sheriff Grady Judd.

He heads up the sheriff's office in Polk County, Polk County, you know, in Florida.

Judd said that past police action in Polk County already has been making life difficult for squatters.

We've never had that problem because we go into the house, we determine, well, the real owner doesn't know who these people are and entered into no contract.

So we load them up.

We give them a one-way ticket to county jail.

It's just that simple.

You don't have a right to bog it down in court.

You just do what's right.

It's always been this way in the country.

You know, they pop smoke on us and leave us

whenever they get out of jail, and they're gone.

I mean, they're gone fast because we just don't put up with it, and that's the bottom line.

Across this nation, if you get tired of

doing it,

do something about it, he said.

We've got a 50-year low in crime in Polk County.

Wonder why that is.

What do you think that is?

What do you think that is?

One thing I've noticed about stopping crime is enforcing the law seems to help the problem.

Like, if you were to take the laws that you have and enforce them and not, let's say, release the same criminals into the environment over and over and over again so they can continue to commit crimes.

Recidivism is a real problem.

Well, and maybe just stop that.

Well, let's watch.

Let's watch because Oregon's governor has signed a measure to re-impose criminal penalties for hard drugs.

And the mayor of Portland, Ted Wheeler,

says this, you know,

free drugs, free hard drugs, you know, drugs everywhere and no criminal penalties.

He He says that's a failed experiment.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Didn't work out.

Yeah.

Yeah, it didn't.

It didn't.

So anyway, they're going to,

they're going to recriminalize drugs.

But see, this may not work just because it's against the law.

You see, they'd have to enforce it.

Oh, yeah.

And I'm wondering if, I mean, you know, as great of a guy Ted Wheeler is, I love him.

He's fantastic.

He's fantastic as a mayor.

As great as he is, I'm wondering if he's going to allow the police to enforce that.

Or is it just against the law?

I kind of thought those were the same things until recently.

Like, I thought

I feel like whenever I go five miles an hour over the speed limit, someone enforces the law on me.

Yet it seems like that Hunter Biden and so many others in our society have developed a totally new system of justice.

You just have to tell them they pull you over for speeding and just say, I've got a squatter on the pedal there.

I like that.

And I like that.

He refuses to leave.

I wasn't speeding.

It was him.

And

he just wants to squat on the pedal.

Can you just identify as one of your personal enemies each time you get pulled over?

What do you mean?

You know, like I identify, I'm Glenn Beck.

When I get pulled over, it's just that easy.

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