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Speaker 2 the newly elected Ohio Representative Ishmael Mohammed

Speaker 2 his victory speech. I thought it was stirring and something you need to hear.
Here it is. Here it is.
Cut one.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 okay. You know, my favorite part is

Speaker 2 the non-English part, which was all of it. It was all in Somali, which,

Speaker 2 yeah,

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Speaker 2 AOC yesterday in a hearing says the RecOat

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Speaker 2 Let me just take you through a couple of things here right off the bat that I think just show how bright everybody truly is today. Let's start in Congress.

Speaker 2 Let's start with Bobolinski yesterday

Speaker 2 telling Congress about Biden and who was the big guy. Cut three.

Speaker 6 Mr. Bobolinski, who's the big guy? Joe Biden.
Are you sure about that? Because when

Speaker 7 Joe Biden?

Speaker 6 You're sure?

Speaker 7 I'm 1,000% sure.

Speaker 6 Because when Hunter Biden did his deposition under oath, he said, I don't know who it is, even though he was copied on an email that said H will hold 10 percent for the big guy.

Speaker 6 You sure it's the big guy is Joe Biden?

Speaker 7 1,000 percent.

Speaker 7 And there's other text messages that back that up that the brave whistleblowers, Shapley and Ziegler, have produced, not from my phones, not from my BlackBerry that I took screenshots from.

Speaker 7 They took them from subpoenas directly from Apple's iCloud that back up the fact that Hunter knew the big guy was Joe Biden.

Speaker 6 The big guy is the brand, the big guy is the lift, the big guy is the one who showed up at golf outings, who took phone calls and meetings and lunches and dinners with Hunter Biden and his business associates.

Speaker 6 Is that right?

Speaker 7 Correct.

Speaker 2 All right, let me go to cut nine here. This is Bob Olinski.
Why do the Bidens lie?

Speaker 7 I want to be crystal clear. From my direct personal experience and what I've subsequently come to learn, it is clear to me that Joe Biden was the brand being sold by the Biden family.

Speaker 7 His family's foreign influence peddling operation from from China to Ukraine and elsewhere sold out to foreign actors who were seeking to gain influence and access to Joe Biden and the United States government.

Speaker 7 Joe Biden was more than a participant in and a beneficiary of his family's business.

Speaker 7 He was an active, aware enabler who met with business associates such as myself to further the business despise being buffered by a complex scheme to maintain plausible deniability.

Speaker 7 I asked this big question. If there's no evidence of corruption here today, if Joe's conduct and the conduct of his family were fully legal and proper, then why are they so dishonest about it?

Speaker 2 Hmm.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 But Jamie Raskin,

Speaker 2 the co-chair of the committee, he's a Democrat, he was a little upset that people were saying that, well, he was a liar.

Speaker 7 Listen to that. The same people preaching this mantra know better.
They continue to lie directly to the American people without hesitation and remorse.

Speaker 7 Rep Dan Goldman and Jamie Raskin, both lawyers, and Mr.

Speaker 7 Goldman, a former prosecutor with the SDNY from New York, will continue to lie today in this hearing and then go straight to the media to tell more lies.

Speaker 7 Hunter Biden's defense attorney, Abby Lowell, weaponized his letters to Congress to try to smear my name

Speaker 7 and state the cold hard facts

Speaker 7 in an attempt to save his society connected mind and his father. I challenge Mr.
Lowell to make those claims on national television so he can be held accountable for his lies.

Speaker 7 Prior to my successful business career, I was an officer in the United States Navy at Navy's elite Naval Nuclear Power Training Command. I later served as

Speaker 7 the command's chief technology officer.

Speaker 3 Please proceed. I apologize for the disruption from the

Speaker 7 am I supposed to say it's my time, Mr. Raskin?

Speaker 2 Yeah. But please, Mr.

Speaker 3 Bobolinski, please.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 9 Come to order.

Speaker 2 Mr.

Speaker 3 Bobolitsky, Mr. Bobolinski, please proceed.
Please proceed. I apologize for the disruption from the minority.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 5 Well, Mr. Chairman,

Speaker 5 save his time, but he called members of this committee liars, and I just want to know whether the order and decorum requirements of House Rule 11 apply to witnesses appearing before the committee.

Speaker 2 Okay, stop for a second. Stop, stop, stop.
I got to tell you, what does that mean? What is he trying to say here?

Speaker 2 I want to know, because we have a rule, we can't call each other liars on the record. You're not going to allow him to call.
We can call them liars, but they can't call us liars, can they?

Speaker 2 Well, apparently they can. Here's the rest of the clip.

Speaker 5 Does it apply or does it not?

Speaker 2 He's checking with counsel now.

Speaker 10 Did I say?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 Raskin's an idiot.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's an idiot. So, no, it doesn't say that.
He can call him a liar.

Speaker 3 There's decorum from the members. We've asked for that.
There's no language that I'm aware of pertaining to a witness. Thank you.
So, so

Speaker 3 don't make sure we didn't waste any of his time on the opening statement. Mr.
Bobolinski, I'm sorry for the disruption.

Speaker 9 Please continue your opening statement.

Speaker 7 I think you, Mr. Askin, useful.

Speaker 9 We'll make sure it's right.

Speaker 7 I just want to restate.

Speaker 7 Make sure the American people hear all these facts.

Speaker 2 Abby Law.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 AOC,

Speaker 2 she's always good, you know, for a laugh or two. Here she is with Bobolinski yesterday.

Speaker 7 I believe the fact that he was sitting with me while I was putting together a- Did you witness the president commit a crime?

Speaker 11 Is it your testimony today? Yes. And what crime do you have you witness?

Speaker 7 How much time do I have to go through it?

Speaker 11 It is simple. You name the crime.
Did you watch him steal something? corruption statutes rico and consumer what is it what is what is the crime sir you you specifically

Speaker 11 you keep you asked me to answer the question i answered the question no rico you're obviously not familiar with corruption excuse me sir excuse me sir excuse me sir rico is not a crime it is a category what is the

Speaker 7 category of crimes that you're then charging you have charges long 100 you have charges sir please

Speaker 7 Zach Statute on Enrico. Yes.
Well, it's funny. In this committee room, everyone's not here.
There's over eight.

Speaker 7 I reclaim my lawyers that went to law school.

Speaker 2 Look at this. They are just so

Speaker 2 bad. They are so bad and so desperate.
They can't let anybody talk.

Speaker 2 I mean, it is, it's remarkable that these people can tie their shoes. It really is.
They're so

Speaker 2 incredible.

Speaker 2 they are so incredibly lost.

Speaker 2 What evidence do you have? NaOC can tie her stupidity. Yeah, I have no.

Speaker 2 You're right. It is, it's truly remarkable to me that these people

Speaker 2 are even listened to, even a little bit. I mean, at any amount,

Speaker 2 these people are, you know, I read a story last night that

Speaker 2 talked about

Speaker 2 how the students are suing their school because they couldn't have a drag show.

Speaker 2 They couldn't have a drag show.

Speaker 2 Wow. Really? That's what you found important?

Speaker 2 The drag show?

Speaker 2 That's what you're spending your time on? The drag show with everything else that is going on in the world? That's what you deem important. Really?

Speaker 2 They don't want to talk about the crime that is a result, a direct result of people like AOC, their stupid reimagining of the police. Didn't seem to work out well, did it?

Speaker 2 And then she stands by while the man, or the woman in her case, puts troops in some of the largest cities in America. You have armed troops in your subways, and you're not speaking.

Speaker 2 You're a Marxist you're not speaking out about that

Speaker 2 did you maybe miss all the sex trafficking because of your open border ideas or the abuse of all of the women who have been raped on their way here because of your brilliant humans can't be illegal stance

Speaker 2 maybe the deaths of fentanyl to for all of those Americans a hundred thousand a year

Speaker 2 you just You don't care about that. No, no, no.
You don't even mention it from time to time. And I'm kind of surprised because you kind of see

Speaker 2 like you're the person or you try to make yourself appear as though you're the person that cares about the plight of the poor and the downtrodden more than any other American.

Speaker 2 It's just you fighting this fight. No, no, no, no.
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 You're too busy talking about the crimes of the past while an old rich white guy steals everybody's future by having his son lick the butts of communist dictators and oil oligarchs in Ukraine and Moscow.

Speaker 2 You don't care. No, no, no.
The Bidens are creating jobs. His son is creating jobs for women.

Speaker 2 Yeah, sure, that result in, you know, being beaten up after the hard day of work, being beaten up by their pimps.

Speaker 2 Have you missed the fact that China is making fentanyl in Mexico?

Speaker 2 Selling it to the drug cartels at costs so they can kill people in America of all races including the special races that seem to be the only ones you care about

Speaker 2 you don't even care about reporters being jailed anymore inflation borrowing a hundred borrowing in every hundred days one trillion dollars something we can never pay off

Speaker 2 I'm trying to figure you liberals out because the CIA and Intel, the five I's now are all collaborating.

Speaker 2 They're all working together to spy on Americans while we spy on their citizens and then we swap information. What happened to you guys?

Speaker 2 You're in bed now with major corporations who are in bed with big government who are only enriching themselves by impoverishing the working class.

Speaker 2 Is there not a Marxist that cares about the working class anymore? My gosh.

Speaker 2 Oh, you don't care about nuclear war. Nope.
Nope. Nope.
For some reason, the liberals are now all pro-war. I don't understand that.
I mean, holy cow.

Speaker 2 What happened to you?

Speaker 2 Oh, I forget. I forget.
That's right.

Speaker 2 Your holy order of drag queens show can't be held now. You can't hold a service for that, you know, in a institute of higher learning.
My gosh you people are idiots just

Speaker 2 incredible idiots I mean you are the robber barons of idiots you you are remarkable really truly remarkable do you guys have one working brain cell It's a miracle that the whole lot of you could put your brain cells together and it would amount enough to enough brain cells to get one of you to breathe.

Speaker 2 My.

Speaker 2 May I just recommend that all of those on the left and these kids who care so deeply about drag shows try reading the gods of the copybook headings. See how this all works out.

Speaker 2 Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot.
I forgot you can't read. You go to school.
You can learn how to march. You can learn how to protest.
You can learn how to burn cities down, but you you still can't read.

Speaker 2 Well, you sound out some of the small words, and then when mommy is finished, you know,

Speaker 2 demanding that you get a higher grade in class from your professor, maybe she can come home and read it to you while you eat warm cookies and make yummy noises.

Speaker 2 How do you miss that you're going to all end up eating each other?

Speaker 2 History's biggest whinos, epic losers, insane, insanely stupid, the shareholders of pets.com and all those who thought BLM Inc.

Speaker 2 actually cared about people like you.

Speaker 2 They're all laughing at you. Do you not notice that? Can't you hear that? That laughter is coming from all of the idiots in history who learned their lesson.

Speaker 2 My gosh.

Speaker 2 Despite what your teachers have told you, you're not special. You didn't win that trophy because you deserved it.
You're a loser. You lost.

Speaker 2 And you'll continue to be an epic joke until you realize this and wake up. And if you feel this is a micro-aggression, I'm sorry.
I meant it as a macro aggression. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 Jeez.

Speaker 2 You are simply a face in... in the mob of uneducated, self-absorbed children that when all is said and done will be remembered by historians as fascistic monsters.

Speaker 2 Oh, and idiots.

Speaker 2 But I digress.

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Speaker 2 you know the good thing is?

Speaker 2 The good thing is, is people are seeing this idiocy.

Speaker 2 They're on to it. Did you see that Thomas Massey is spearheading a constitutional amendment that will never pass?

Speaker 2 Because here's what it says: the right of the people to grow food and purchase food from the source of their choice shall not be infringed, and Congress shall make no laws regulating the production and distribution of food products which do not move across state lines.

Speaker 2 That's it. You know what the headline was?

Speaker 2 Republicans' constitutional amendment would change how Americans eat.

Speaker 2 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 Oh my gosh. You mean like, eat zabugs?

Speaker 2 Like I've got to regulate everything so you can't afford beef. You mean that kind of changing the way people

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Speaker 2 How are the conservatives the one standing up for raw milk?

Speaker 2 What?

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Speaker 2 How are we the ones that are now saying, you know, big business is out of control and they're in bed with the government? How am I the one doing that?

Speaker 2 Where are the liberals?

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Speaker 2 you know when it comes to negotiations you really shouldn't

Speaker 2 you really should check out your case especially when you're sitting across the table from Donald Trump, because the one thing he does do well is hardcore negotiations.

Speaker 2 So Donald Trump is facing a deadline on Monday to post a $454 million bond in the civil fraud case against him in New York. Well, he can't raise the money.

Speaker 2 His lawyer said it was practical impossibility.

Speaker 2 And the press and everybody else, oh, Letitia James, she's got to go after him.

Speaker 2 She's got to take his stuff. Oh, I think Donald Trump is

Speaker 2 waiting for her to take his stuff.

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 2 Really? Now, this is a guy who loves New York.

Speaker 2 He was popular in New York for many reasons. One of which is the guy actually really loved New York and did things that weren't necessarily beneficial for him monetarily.

Speaker 2 Like, oh, I don't know, rebuilding the ice rink after the city spent a decade trying to fix it. He finally came in and fixed it all and did it in like, I don't even know, eight months.

Speaker 2 So he loves the city. But you know what? You're going to kick me to the curb? Okay, that's fine.
Now, he was ordered to pay $454 million.

Speaker 2 That's more than anyone has ever been, ever, ever been

Speaker 2 charged with. Nobody has ever been told they have to kick up a $454 million bond, let alone in just 30 days.
Okay.

Speaker 2 So what has she been saying? Well, that's fine. You don't do it.

Speaker 2 You don't pony up with that. Then we can seize your assets in 30 days.
Okay. This bond number has never been issued before.
No insurance bond company has ever issued anything near this.

Speaker 2 So there's really no chance of this happening and only giving them 30 days notice. All right.

Speaker 2 So Donald Trump is calling their bluff. Okay, take my property.
Go ahead, take Trump Tower.

Speaker 2 Do you know what that's going to do to New York?

Speaker 2 You seize Donald Trump's property because he can't cough up the bond.

Speaker 2 Go ahead. Now let's look towards the future.
How are you going to sell that thing?

Speaker 2 What happens if he wins an appeal and you've sold his property?

Speaker 2 Is he going to sue the state to get the money that it should have been worth?

Speaker 2 What happens if he wins an appeal on the bond and you have his property?

Speaker 2 What happens even more importantly, because this is no longer about Donald Trump, and this is where Donald Trump has his power seat at the negotiating table. He's so smart.

Speaker 2 He's sitting there and he's saying, oh, yeah, you think you're going to hurt me. No, you know what you're really going to hurt? New York.

Speaker 2 Because you can't just take someone's property because you don't like them politically. In a case like this, that has never, ever, never

Speaker 2 come before the court before where they have, where they've taken somebody's business. I mean, real crime has happened.

Speaker 2 And they have charged people under the same charges that he was tried under, and they didn't lose anything.

Speaker 2 Okay?

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 2 Okay, so that sends the message to the rest of the business world.

Speaker 2 You disagree with the Attorney General or the governor and they'll destroy you and your company. Good.
Good.

Speaker 2 There's a great article that's out in our show prep today from the Shark Tank guy, Kevin O'Leary.

Speaker 2 Listen to this. He said, think about this, America.
The reason this is the number one economy on earth is that we have laws, we have due process, and we have property rights.

Speaker 2 That's what attracts foreign capital from all over the world. Now, foreign capital outside of China buying up all the farmland, where is that foreign capital going?

Speaker 2 Mainly to cities like New York City. They buy big buildings.
All of that's being shaken to the core here. The concept of seizing assets in 30 days, there is no chance that's going to happen.

Speaker 2 And this is a really bad message. New Yorkers should think well past Trump, whether he's president or not, or whether the Attorney General is gone in four years.
That's irrelevant.

Speaker 2 This is case setting against the American brand, the most stable country on earth. anywhere to put capital to work over a long period of time, especially in real estate.

Speaker 2 This is an assault on what we believe to the core. It's an attack on America, and I don't know how you can look at it any other way.

Speaker 2 And as an investor, I know plenty of investors who are completely disturbed by this. But I mean, no one's going to put any money to work in New York in these amounts until this thing settles down.

Speaker 2 The whole world is watching, and everybody's waiting for the one thing they haven't got yet. Adult supervision.
Where is it? Where are the adults adults in this crazy narrative?

Speaker 2 Certainly there's got to be adult supervision at some point. And I understand, you know, the war going on here is all political, yada, yada, woof, woof.

Speaker 2 But we need an adult in the room now. This is the United States of America under siege, end quote.

Speaker 2 It's pretty powerful and right.

Speaker 2 So let me just tie that

Speaker 2 with this story.

Speaker 2 A A suspected squatter who allegedly took over a million dollar Queens home, that's Queens, New York, is now subletting space to the house.

Speaker 2 Kevin Ballasty said he was conned into paying $1,500 a month to live in the basement of a flushing home with the deal made with Jay.

Speaker 2 who he identified as the squatter first exposed by WABC-TV. This is a story that was in yesterday's show prep about the squatter.
Okay, now the squatter is subletting the home.

Speaker 2 Here's what happened yesterday, in case you didn't get the newsletter at Glenbeck.com. Yesterday, there was a story from WABC that talked about this woman and her daughter that

Speaker 2 were away. They come back.

Speaker 2 She opens up the door. And the guy says, what the hell are you doing in my house? And she's like, what the hell are you doing in my house? All of her furniture, everything is there.

Speaker 2 She calls the police. The police kick him out.
They say, you cannot change the locks. That's against the state law of

Speaker 2 New York. You can't change the locks.
Otherwise, he can take you to court. She's like,

Speaker 2 he's squatting in my house. I have a daughter.
I'm a woman. I'm going to change the locks.
The police say, don't do it. You're going to break the law.
The next day, she has the locks changed.

Speaker 2 He comes back, tries to open the door. It's locked.
He doesn't have a key. And what happens? He goes back to the same police, brings them back to the house, and now she's in court.

Speaker 2 He's suing her.

Speaker 2 So now the squatter is subletting her house.

Speaker 2 Is there any right to property in New York at all?

Speaker 2 You couple this with the story story about Donald Trump. What do you think is going to happen to New York?

Speaker 2 I'm telling you right now what I told my kids seven years ago. Eight, oh my gosh, has it been, wow, it's been 10 years, I think.

Speaker 2 And I said to my kids at the time, before any of this was happening, this city is going to burn itself to the ground. This city is going to be a nightmare.
It's going to be escape from New York.

Speaker 2 It's only only a matter of time.

Speaker 2 We're leaving.

Speaker 2 Dad,

Speaker 2 you're always so dramatic. Mm-hmm.
Well, watch.

Speaker 2 Look what's happened to New York. Would you want to live in New York? Do you want to own property in New York? They could offer me the Trump Tower for $10.

Speaker 2 James could come to me and say, Glenn, I just seized this. It's only $10.

Speaker 2 You buy it free and clear. It's yours.
yours no freaking way man no way

Speaker 2 i'm not just worried about how i'd be losing ten dollars because in an appeal he can take that back and then i'm in court with you no

Speaker 2 but here's what it really says i don't want to own any property in new york city Because they're going to continue to tax the rich to death.

Speaker 2 Property owners are going to be the worst people to have ever lived. Anybody who rents out any space is going to become a robber baron.

Speaker 2 The city is going to get more and more corrupt, more and more

Speaker 2 dangerous for people who just want to live. The school systems are absolute crap.

Speaker 2 The city is now suing the bus company that is bringing in the immigrants,

Speaker 2 suing the bus company,

Speaker 2 not suing the Biden administration, no, no, no, not trying to stop that influx, no, no, no. Suing the bus company while New York and JFK and LaGuardia,

Speaker 2 those are the biggest end destinations for people this government are allowing to board a plane without any documentation and come into this country as an illegal immigrant.

Speaker 2 The government is endorsing it. In many cases, we're flying them to New York for free on your dollar.

Speaker 2 You're going to live in New York? Good luck with that. Good luck with that.
If you're listening in New York and you agree with anything that I'm saying here, think

Speaker 2 deeply.

Speaker 2 I know your family is there. I grew up here.
My family is here.

Speaker 2 All of that, all of that that you grew up with ain't coming back soon.

Speaker 2 These people won't get it until they've destroyed absolutely everything.

Speaker 2 I honestly believe that's their plan.

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Speaker 10 One interesting part about this cash crunch on Donald Trump, Glenn, is the truth social element of it.

Speaker 10 He, on Friday, tomorrow,

Speaker 10 shareholders are supposed to vote about taking this public, his truth social, and it's a very complicated structure that they went through to get this to go

Speaker 10 down. I won't go into the details of it, but basically this merger, you know, they're in the middle of doing this.
It's supposed to go forward.

Speaker 10 If it goes public, he owns 79 million shares, which right now is about $3 billion.

Speaker 10 So, you know, he might be coming into a little bit of cash coming up soon. Now, this will take months for him to actually, I think he has to hold the shares for six months after this all goes down.

Speaker 10 So, it wouldn't necessarily be an immediate thing, but this is right around the corner.

Speaker 10 And you wonder, once again, is this the type of thing that someone who was looking to post a bond for him would take into account? I mean, if this money is right around the corner, why wouldn't you?

Speaker 10 Again, what your point is about him wanting this, not necessarily wanting it to happen.

Speaker 10 I know he doesn't want it to happen, but seeing there to be an advantage to him both politically and as payback is a complicating factor here.

Speaker 10 But

Speaker 10 you have to believe at some point he'll be able to pull this off.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think he could pull it off if he wanted to or if he wanted to sell things at a fire sell. But he's not going to,

Speaker 2 he believes he's going to win on appeal on all of this stuff.

Speaker 2 And go ahead, Letitia. You threaten me you're going to take it in 30 days.
Take it. Take it.
Sell it. Let's see how much pressure you get from the guys who may hate me,

Speaker 2 but they know what you're doing is so dangerous to capital that they're going to tell you, you got to stop this right now, or we're going to leave.

Speaker 2 Go ahead. Do it.
Do it. Yes.

Speaker 2 Grab my arm. I think.
Take it. Take your weapon.

Speaker 10 He has a real chance of this getting overturned on appeal.

Speaker 10 This law has never been applied like this.

Speaker 10 The fine is so excessive and so much more than anyone has ever seen in similar circumstances.

Speaker 10 The Eighth Amendment provides a

Speaker 10 no excessive fines policy. The New York Constitution has the same

Speaker 10 language in it.

Speaker 2 I mean, I just,

Speaker 10 long term, I don't see how he doesn't win this, but of course, that's not what the goal is. The goal is from now till November to punish him as much as possible and hurt him as much as possible.

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Some breaking news. Looks like Marco Rubio is on the very, very, very, very, very, very short list for Donald Trump's VP.
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Speaker 2 Today Today, we have Marco Rubio on. So, we're going to talk to him about that and TikTok.
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Speaker 13 Thanks, Glenn. I know we've got a lot of big news today, and I'd just like to clear up that I am not on the short list for the VP pick for Trump.
So just want to get that out of the way.

Speaker 2 Just to get that out of the shop. Good.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 I was kind of hoping, but yeah, he turned me down too. Anyway,

Speaker 2 so

Speaker 2 let's start with the Fed.

Speaker 2 The Fed didn't lower rates yesterday.

Speaker 2 We've been thinking they were going to, but as I, maybe I read this story wrong, so help me out. But what I read was they're probably going to keep the rates the way they are this year.

Speaker 2 Maybe raise them next year, you know, like after the election.

Speaker 2 Is that what they said?

Speaker 13 I think you mean cut them.

Speaker 13 So the Fed has been very good at telegraphing to the market, at least of late, what it plans to do, at least right before it does or doesn't do something, as was the case yesterday in the last few Fed meetings.

Speaker 13 So it was pretty clear on Wall Street, I think it was like a 1% chance of a cut. So we didn't get that cut.
Right.

Speaker 13 What Powell did say is he telegraphed that he does believe there will be cuts coming, that he does think that the interest rate that we're at right now is at the highest level that it will be.

Speaker 13 So he telegraphed that he doesn't think, barring something, you know, going in a very strange direction, he doesn't think they're going higher. He thinks they're going lower.

Speaker 13 And there's something that's called the dot plot that comes out, which is the projections of all of the Fed governors and the presidents of the different Fed banks before they all talk.

Speaker 13 So this is like their anonymous, like, hey, here's where I think things are going.

Speaker 13 And they are still telegraphing three rate cuts this year i think that may be too many i think it may just be a couple but there there's one other thing that came out that is also in that kind of accommodative monetary policy stance so they have two tools to be more accommodative they can either cut rates or they could um you know go out in the market and they can purchase securities or at least move from what they're doing now which is they're tightening.

Speaker 13 They have, as we know, trillions and trillions of dollars on the balance sheet. We were almost up to $9 trillion.

Speaker 13 They have let about

Speaker 13 a trillion and a half of that run off. So they're not selling those.
They're just saying, hey, as those mature, we're not going back in the market and replacing it.

Speaker 13 What they telegraphed yesterday, which is really important,

Speaker 13 is we're not going to probably do this. And

Speaker 13 they hadn't discussed it yet, Glenn, but they're going to probably discuss it at the next meeting. But we don't think we're going to keep doing that.

Speaker 13 We're not going to let that runoff happen at the same level that we did before. We're going to slow that down.

Speaker 13 And that is very accommodative as well. So this is another way that they're addressing the issues in the market.

Speaker 13 And the reason is because of all of this chaos that they want to avoid in the treasury market, because we don't have enough people who want to buy U.S.

Speaker 13 debt at reasonable, quote-unquote, interest rates.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 wait. So they're not going to buy more debt of our debt? Or they

Speaker 2 will.

Speaker 13 So

Speaker 13 they had bought up to almost $9 trillion. What they had done

Speaker 13 over the last couple of years is they have let run off.

Speaker 13 So they have not re-bought about a trillion and a half of that. So if

Speaker 13 seven and a half trillion, give or take, you know, a couple,

Speaker 13 what's a couple hundred billion among friends, right? So they had been doing that, and they had a cap of about $95 billion, I think it was a month that they were going to do.

Speaker 13 That's the pace of this runoff. Well, they're not going to let it run off that much anymore.

Speaker 13 They're going to probably, you know, they hadn't discussed it yet, but they kind of felt like that's where things were going.

Speaker 13 And it's just, if you go back to, I don't know when it was, probably 2010, when Ron Paul in Congress was basically grilling then Fed chair Ben Bernagu, who started all of this adding to the balance sheet.

Speaker 13 And he said, where's the balance sheet going to go, Ben? And he's like, well, I think it'll go back down under a trillion dollars. Well, guess what? Wah, wah, wah.

Speaker 13 Basically, Jerome Powell said, yeah, that's not going to happen anymore. And that is an accommodative piece, a loosening of the current stance of monetary policy.

Speaker 2 So how do we survive

Speaker 2 with the loosening of monetary policy from the Fed just taking on more debt, us taking on more debt, and this new Biden budget, which is eye-popping.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 13 So the Fed is at the current time is at least saying they're not taking on any more debt. They're just not going to let it run off quite as quickly.
They're just going to keep what they have for now.

Speaker 13 The funny thing is,

Speaker 2 great investment.

Speaker 13 Right. Yeah.
It's fantastic. So

Speaker 13 the funny thing here, this is a little bit backward thinking, but as they loosen policy, if they were to lower interest rates, it actually helps us out because we have such huge deficits that need to be financed.

Speaker 13 And the higher the interest rate is, the more interest that we have to pay, and the more inflation ultimately that is going to create.

Speaker 13 So, basically, the Fed and the government have been fighting against each other.

Speaker 13 And instead of just coming out and saying, listen, Congress, listen, listen, Biden, we need you guys to get your acts together.

Speaker 13 We're trying to do something to save the country and you need to do your part. There's a lot of dancing around this issue.

Speaker 13 And the funny thing is, is we've had all these letters coming from the progressives, from the Bernie Sanders and the Elizabeth Warrens, saying you've got to lower interest rates because of climate.

Speaker 13 projects and things like that. Well, guess what, guys? You're in Congress.
You're in charge of the budgets and the purse strings.

Speaker 13 How about you just stop stop spending and then we wouldn't be in the position we're in today?

Speaker 2 Okay, so there's another story from FinCEN. Now, FinCEN

Speaker 2 is the criminal arm of the Treasury Department. Well, I shouldn't say it that way.
All of it seems to be criminal, but these are the ones that go after

Speaker 2 money laundering and things like this. These are the ones that now small businesses, if you have under 20 employees, you have to register with them so they know you're not a criminal.

Speaker 2 It's crazy.

Speaker 2 There's more now dropping on FinCEN?

Speaker 13 Yes.

Speaker 13 So this Corporate Transparency Act beneficial ownership information rule that we've been talking about with FinCEN, the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, Department of the Treasury, as you noted, Congress gave them all of this authority under this rule.

Speaker 13 And the first thing they decided to do is we're going to make a database of all small business owners.

Speaker 13 if you have an LLC if you have an S Corp whatever it is as long as there is an entity around it so not if solopreneurs haven't registered with their secretary of state they wouldn't be included but if you have an entity because they're trying to go after those money launderers and those cartel people who you know are the first people who are going to register with Vincent so we've been talking about this

Speaker 13 sending a lot of information to many of your listeners and people are really starting to understand what's going on here. But they've decided to do something else.

Speaker 13 So now they said, well, we also feel like we need to go after residential real estate transfers under the Corporate Transparency Act.

Speaker 13 So basically, if you have a property in your family that, you know, it could be a home, it could be a farm, it could be a vacation home, and you transfer that to somebody else in your family or otherwise via a trust and there is no financing involved in that.

Speaker 13 You're not getting a loan. Nobody's paying a piece.
It's just a gift transfer. They would also like for you to register that now because we have, we've given them an inch

Speaker 13 because they want to make sure, Glenn, that the cartels and the money launderers aren't parking their money in. in their their homes.

Speaker 13 Because again, if you're a money launderer or you're someone in the cartel, I'm sure you're going to be very forthcoming about your beneficial ownership information.

Speaker 13 So again, now we have this, this is a proposed rule. So, I'm going to tell everyone now, I'm going to put up a letter later today on Twitter.

Speaker 13 I want you guys to copy it and comment on it because we have till April 16th.

Speaker 13 But this will basically say: if you're somebody who's involved in real estate transactions, so you're a real estate attorney, you are perhaps somebody involved in the closing process, you are now going to have to collect information not only on the person who is selling the property, but who it is being transferred to.

Speaker 13 You're going to have to alert FinCEN, you're going to have to keep records.

Speaker 13 So this not only violates privacy, it's going to create a ton of fees and it's going to create issues for anybody who's in that business. And it really seems to me, I don't know.
So

Speaker 2 if I wanted to transfer the property to my wife.

Speaker 2 Right. I would now have to alert, and they're going to do what with that information?

Speaker 2 What does that mean for me?

Speaker 13 Yes. So that means that during your closing process

Speaker 13 to effect this transfer, that the people who are involved, the attorneys, somebody involved with the closing, is going to say, hi, I have to report lots of information to FinCEN.

Speaker 13 So now you're going to give me all kinds of information on who you are, Glenn, who your wife is, and all of this invasive information so that FinCEN can create a database on that to go out.

Speaker 2 There you go.

Speaker 13 Yes.

Speaker 2 There you go. That's what I'm asking for.
Why are they keeping track of people's assets? Is that to eventually seize them?

Speaker 2 Tax them.

Speaker 13 This is where you and I are going in the same direction. So now we have a database of people who own small business entities.
Then they want to start with real estate.

Speaker 13 And I understand it's just transfers at first.

Speaker 13 But if you think that it's cashless transfers and it's not going to stop at that, when we've already now leaked from small business entities to residential real estate cashless transfers we know where this is going next so it seems to me in the spirit of you will own nothing that they really want to know where all your assets are and if you go back to the bigger thesis of the fact that we do not have enough money in the government that they're receiving in order to pay their debts and to continue to sustain things like their social security Ponzi schemes and all of these promises that they've made, it seems to me they want to know what are the value of all of these assets because, you know, wouldn't that be interesting if they could come after those and find a way to seize or tax or whatever those assets to help pay for all of the spending?

Speaker 13 It is all very much connected, and this absolutely has to be stopped.

Speaker 2 This is really bad. And when you publish that letter, send it to me so I can publish it as well, Carol.
And Carol, the other thing is

Speaker 2 I haven't had a chance to talk to any attorneys or any groups.

Speaker 2 If there are any groups that want to take on this lawsuit, Carol and I would like to sue the Treasury Department because this is absolutely unacceptable.

Speaker 2 So I don't know who's going to handle that, but we need somebody big that will do it. And anybody else that wants to join us on that, we should do it.

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Speaker 2 okay so while we're here on seizing property um

Speaker 2 Let me ask you about your thoughts

Speaker 2 of Donald Trump not coming up with a $454 million

Speaker 2 fine by Monday. And he said,

Speaker 2 well, you know, I can't do it by Monday. It's just not going to happen.
Letitia Jackson, or what's her name? Letitia James. Whatever.
James, thank you.

Speaker 2 She's saying, well, then, you know what? We'll seize his property.

Speaker 2 I think Donald Trump doesn't want this to happen, but I think Donald Trump is going to let her do that because in the end, that is going to so dramatically impact business in New York.

Speaker 2 Between the squatters having all kinds of rights in New York and they can seize your property and sell it.

Speaker 2 Gosh, I got to tell you, I wouldn't do business in New York. I wouldn't want to live in New York.

Speaker 13 Yeah, the entire thing is frightening, and I have to think it's all related. This idea that squatters can come in and you haven't been in your house for 30 days and they can take it over.

Speaker 13 I mean, this entire country was built on the foundation of property rights. I don't, I like, I can't even start to wrap my head around that.
And then you've got Donald Trump.

Speaker 13 You know, the reality is, and we've been saying this for a long time, these people who have lots of money, it's not liquid.

Speaker 13 And for them to make it liquid would cause a cascade of effects in different markets. If they have stock to sell, that has a big impact on the market if they all of a sudden have to liquidate that.

Speaker 13 Not everybody is willing to lend against these types of assets or at least at the level to meet these kinds of outrageous demands.

Speaker 13 So what does it say to you when all of a sudden you have a scenario where there is no specific other party, there's no damaged other party.

Speaker 13 There's no, oh, this person lost this much money, but it's the state is saying, well, we think that you made this much in ill-gotten gains, a number that they just kind of made up out of thin air.

Speaker 13 And so to satisfy that, we are going to take away your property.

Speaker 13 I mean, the entire foundation of what this country is built on and the property rights and the security and the privacy and all of our natural rights, which the Constitution is supposed to defend us, to defend those natural rights against the government, is being tested in every single way.

Speaker 13 way. And I really hope that we start to get some Supreme Court cases against something like what happened to Donald Trump, against these squatters, against this corporate transparency act.

Speaker 13 We need to set back

Speaker 13 the Financial Foundation and say, these are our God-given rights. These are our natural rights.
And you and the government cannot keep infringing upon them. It is frightening.
And it's frightening.

Speaker 13 By the way, not just for New York, Glenn, because you know there are a bunch of other

Speaker 2 states

Speaker 13 that this is going to spill out. to the California

Speaker 2 and the like.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Carol, I have to have you back tomorrow because there's an amazing story about Jeremy Grantham and his 2 billion people policy or prediction that you must hear.

Speaker 2 So if you have time, we'll have you back on tomorrow to talk a little bit about.

Speaker 2 There's nothing like reducing the population to 2 billion people. That kind of happy talk on a Friday is just where we need to live.
Carol Roth, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2 Welcome to the Glen Beck program. If you missed last night's Wednesday night show, you missed a lot.

Speaker 2 We talked about TikTok, and I know I'm in the minority,

Speaker 2 but

Speaker 2 I wasn't sure where I stood until last night. I had two people, I invited two guests on that have opposite views, but are usually on the same side.

Speaker 2 And I both, I respect their commitment, both of them, to the Constitution. One of them is Chip Roy, the Congressman from Texas, and the other is Thomas Massey.
Thomas from Kentucky,

Speaker 2 he's libertarian

Speaker 2 and always concerned about things like the Patriot Act, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2 But so is Chip Roy. But Chip is

Speaker 2 also very concerned about our security and China. He knows what we're we're facing.
I agree with both of them on why this is an important issue.

Speaker 2 So last night I had them debate each other, go back and forth. And oh man, it was so refreshing to see three people talk about something that we disagree on, but nobody became disagreeable.

Speaker 2 I mean, we're like, yeah, okay, I really see your point on this one. It was really, it's something that we just don't have enough of.

Speaker 2 And last night they debated it. Massey was against, and Chip Roy was for.
In fact, he sponsored the TikTok banning bill.

Speaker 10 What was the result of this? Was there a unanimous decision, a split decision at the end? How did this come out?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they both stayed in their position.

Speaker 2 And I was looking for help because

Speaker 2 I read the bill. We went over a lot of it last night, line by line, and there's some disturbing things in there.

Speaker 2 For instance, let me just go through some of this. This is the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act.
Wow.

Speaker 2 If you look at Section 2 under Foreign Adversary Controlled Application,

Speaker 2 it shows that it's not just a phone app. It's individual websites could also be seized.
That makes sense.

Speaker 2 But supporters of this bill point out that it's just foreign adversary apps and the website, that it doesn't, that it specifically points out foreign adversary controlled all throughout the bill.

Speaker 2 Well, that's a little vague because when you say they're controlled by a foreign adversary,

Speaker 2 We have been accused of being

Speaker 2 controlled by Russia, Israel.

Speaker 2 who else have we been,

Speaker 2 people said, well, they're controlled by a foreign adversary.

Speaker 10 Whoever is convenient at the time. But I mean, in theory, there's only the four

Speaker 10 that are labeled in this bill, which are North Korea, China, Russia, and Iran.

Speaker 10 So Israel wouldn't apply, but Russia would.

Speaker 2 So listen what they said about Donald Trump when he went to North Korea. He's being controlled by a foreign adversary.
He's in with North Korea and Russia.

Speaker 2 When Tucker Carlson went to Russia, how many people said he's just a pawn for Putin?

Speaker 2 Well, does that mean that Tucker Carlson, if the president, because he's the one who decides, if the president decides that you're being controlled by a foreign adversary,

Speaker 2 does that mean Tucker Carlson can just go away?

Speaker 2 I mean, really directly

Speaker 10 to all of this would be Truth Social, right? I mean, they claim Donald Trump is a Russian asset and it has been a Russian asset since the 1980s.

Speaker 10 Correct. And he basically owns a very large chunk of Truth Social.

Speaker 10 And that's one of the things that made me nervous about the bill is that one section that tries to define what a foreign adversary is, where it obviously, like if the Chinese government were to own a company, okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 10 If a Chinese foreign national owns a company and they answer to the Chinese Communist Party, that would make sense and be obvious.

Speaker 10 But there's a third section, and maybe you guys went over this last night, that kind of hits a person who is a U.S. citizen that is quote unquote controlled by a foreign entity, right?

Speaker 2 Controlled, yes. It is, if, I'm quoting, if determined by the president to be a present threat to the national security of the United States,

Speaker 2 a threat to national security, what does... What does that mean? And a threat to national security, just in the last year, we've heard election deniers are a threat to our democracy.

Speaker 2 Vaccine deniers, Christian nationalists, climate deniers, all of these are a threat to national security. So

Speaker 2 in the end, when it says

Speaker 2 you're hostile to what?

Speaker 2 People who believe in the Constitution are called hostile to the government. We're trying to overthrow the government.
No, we're not. We're trying to stop you from overthrowing the government.

Speaker 2 We believe in the Constitution.

Speaker 2 So you're a foreign adversary.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 there's a term called the covered company that doesn't include an entity that operates a website, desktop application, mobile application, or augmented or immersive technology application whose primary purpose is to allow users users to post reviews, product reviews, business reviews, or travel information and reviews.

Speaker 2 Now, is Yelp in the middle of a sale to Communist China?

Speaker 2 Who had the juice to put this in? One of the co-sponsors, well, sponsors was Chip Roy. And I said, Chip, who put that in? He said, I don't have any idea.

Speaker 2 But one of the co-sponsors, and I think there were 20 of them, had somebody call up and say, hey, I want this language in there.

Speaker 2 So what website is worried about their product reviews or travel information being deemed a threat to the United States of America? Because it's not just, you know, an entity controlled.

Speaker 2 It's an entity controlled by a

Speaker 2 country that we're at war with, and they are a threat. to our national security.
So, I mean, is the Yelp review a threat to our national security? I don't think so.

Speaker 2 And if so, that really is a little frightening.

Speaker 10 That does really pop up some interesting questions, though, right? Like, obviously, who

Speaker 10 put this in is interesting. I don't know what it means exactly.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 2 Exactly. I want to know what I wanted to know last night was why was

Speaker 2 somebody so concerned about their review site that they wanted it written in? Because we've been told this is only for sites like Byte Dance TikTok. Okay.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 when you see, and we showed it last night, who really owns Byte Dance and TikTok? How is that structure built? It is absolutely insane. So they could sell it to yet another entity

Speaker 2 and, you know,

Speaker 2 get around all of this. This is crazy.

Speaker 2 Here's the last segment and where I ended up last night. This is from last night's Blaze TV Glenbeck Wednesday night special.
We are at war. We are a nation at war.
We're at war with other countries.

Speaker 2 We're at war with China and the Communist Party. Absolutely.
We are fighting a proxy war, which could very well become

Speaker 2 a hot war with Russia and could become a world war, the way things are stacking up. But we're also at war with big tech.

Speaker 2 We're at war with communism and fascism in our own country, being taught to our children in our own schools.

Speaker 2 We're at war with our own intelligence community and justice department.

Speaker 2 And it's not just our Justice Department and Intel, it's the five eyes all over the world.

Speaker 2 We are at war with the corporate oligarchs, the politicians, and the elites all over the world, from the UN to the WEF to, hell, I don't even know. Is the Chamber of Commerce any good anymore?

Speaker 2 But most important, we are at war with ourselves.

Speaker 2 We don't know who we are anymore.

Speaker 2 We're losing our country because we lost our values. And when you lose your values,

Speaker 2 You lose history because it has no meaning anymore. What were you really fighting for? And is that worth it? And because we lost our values, we lost our history.

Speaker 2 You lose your history, you lose your traditions. You lose your traditions.

Speaker 2 You lose your family. And in the end, you lose yourself.

Speaker 2 I honestly think that's where we are. We're damn close to that if not already past it.

Speaker 2 You're not going to repair this country by giving more power to a government that only seeks more power.

Speaker 2 You've got to empower the people.

Speaker 2 Somehow or another, we need to, as people, care what is happening to our children. And I say this with the understanding of what I told you at the beginning.
Even my own family rolls their eyes at me.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 I keep coming back to the founders. Without a religious and moral people, this system is wholly inadequate.

Speaker 2 We're not those people anymore. Doesn't mean we can't be.

Speaker 2 But right now, there are remnants of those people.

Speaker 2 Because we're fighting this war on every single front.

Speaker 2 I'm against the TikTok ban.

Speaker 2 I so trust Chip Roy. I love love Chip, and I trust him.
He's a constitutionalist. He's a Texan from 1853.
I mean,

Speaker 2 don't mess with a Texan.

Speaker 2 But I don't trust the people around him.

Speaker 2 And a government that is seeking more and more power and more and more control and isn't already in bed with

Speaker 2 giant corporate tech

Speaker 2 and China

Speaker 2 and a government that doesn't seem to care about its people over oligarchs and

Speaker 2 you know the rich and the corporations the lawyers

Speaker 2 I can't give any more power

Speaker 2 and I won't give any more power to a president that doesn't defend the Constitution at all costs. And I haven't seen them in quite a while

Speaker 2 So that's where I came down. I don't know where you're going to come down on this, but I think this is a very important question.

Speaker 2 Again,

Speaker 2 because

Speaker 2 this is all the stuff they said about the Patriot Act. It'll never be used against you.
And I said, all they have to do is change the definition of extremist. And they can absolutely turn this on you.

Speaker 2 Yes, but they won't. They have.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's.

Speaker 10 It's a fascinating one. They've done it many times, right? And, you know, I don't know.
You look at this and you just say, well, for example, the foreign adversary thing we were talking about earlier,

Speaker 10 a U.S. citizen that's quote-unquote controlled by a foreign adversary.
You can see there would be all sorts of problems with that. And you can rewrite that, right? You could change that.

Speaker 10 You could pull that out of the bill. But if you do that, it's not effective, right? Because then China could just pay, you know, $100 million to some U.S.
citizen to run their thing.

Speaker 10 And I'm sure there'd be no way of actually tracking whether it was still controlled by the Chinese Chinese government. At the end of the day,

Speaker 10 it's not going to be effective. And

Speaker 10 I don't know, when it comes down to a decision that's close, I just don't want to give the government any more power.

Speaker 2 Amen. And I got to tell you, controlled by a foreign adversary, China? Well, I could make that case, and we made it yesterday in Congress.

Speaker 2 Well, you make that case about the Biden family and the White House.

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Speaker 2 You know, the Bureau of Counterterrorism and the U.S. State Department and CISA, this is the kind of stuff they're supposed to be doing:

Speaker 2 protecting us from foreign adversaries and alerting us.

Speaker 2 They should be alerting everybody, showing us what they're collecting on your family and why it's dangerous so people can make a better choice that is more informed choice.

Speaker 2 But instead, as you'll see in today's email newsletter, We have documents now. Thank you, Matt Taibbi.

Speaker 2 We have documents now that show that the DHS and State Department mobilized federal counterterrorism assets to support a foreign-based organization in censoring American speech.

Speaker 2 That organization, the Center for Countering Digital Hate. Instead of looking out, they're looking in

Speaker 2 and they're creating monsters that don't exist.

Speaker 2 This is very, very bad. Marco Rubio is going to be on talking about TikTok in just a few minutes.

Speaker 2 And there was some breaking news just about an hour ago that Marco Rubio is being considered on the very short list for Donald Trump's running mate.

Speaker 2 So we'll talk to Marco Rubio about that, as well as TikTok and some of the other crazy things that are going on. Next, I want to talk to you about the breakthrough with Elon Musk.

Speaker 10 And you can catch the full show on TikTok last night on YouTube. It's there now, youtube.com/slash Glenn Beck.

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Speaker 2 So yesterday there was a live stream on X and we met the first person to ever have brain implants through Elon Musk's Neuralink technology.

Speaker 2 This is going, if you watch this, have you ever seen when children and babies they put cochlear implants in and suddenly they can hear their mom's voice and how they react and cry and it's just beautiful.

Speaker 2 It's just beautiful. If you watch this live stream on X, you're going to feel exactly the same way.
Nolan Arbach, he is, I think about 30.

Speaker 2 10 years ago or so, he was diving into a pool, had a diving accident, and he's now paralyzed from the shoulders down.

Speaker 2 It's almost exactly what happened to the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott. That's why he's in a wheelchair.
He was in a diving accident. So

Speaker 2 he's paralyzed, can't do anything. He likes to play chess.
He can't move the chess pieces.

Speaker 2 He can't turn a page. He can't do anything.

Speaker 2 So he's the perfect kind of guy for Elon Musk's Neuralink.

Speaker 2 Because what Neuralink does is

Speaker 2 it can repair the parts of your brain that, let's say, are damaged by stroke.

Speaker 2 And when you have a stroke, part of your brain is made up like of highways.

Speaker 2 And when you're thinking something, it goes from one part of your brain on a straight highway to, let's say, the language center

Speaker 2 hub and then

Speaker 2 that goes to another center and then it comes out as words but when you have a stroke sometimes those highways are broken and so Neuralink the hope is that it will actually transmit

Speaker 2 from one center of your brain to another center

Speaker 2 Because when you when you have those highways broken, you either don't talk

Speaker 2 or

Speaker 2 if you're young enough, you can recover somewhat from it and you just have a hard time talking.

Speaker 2 It's horrible. My grandfather had strokes.
My daughter had strokes.

Speaker 2 And I remember seeing my grandfather when I was a kid, he used to scare the hell out of me

Speaker 2 because I could see that there was somebody

Speaker 2 trapped inside. I remember I must have been six.

Speaker 2 And seeing my grandfather trying to communicate and tears running down his cheeks. And I realized he's in prison and that scared the hell out of me.

Speaker 2 And so I love this idea of Neuralink. What this guy is doing is he's now

Speaker 2 activating with his mind

Speaker 2 a computer. He says it's like using the force.
You know, when, you know, Yoda can pick up the spaceship. He said he was, they've they've been training him now for a while.

Speaker 2 He had these implants that are smaller than a human hair, thinner than a human hair. They have to be put in precisely.

Speaker 2 So they have a machine. It's really, the way it's described, I think it reminds me of like a very fast, high-powered sewing machine.
And it takes one of the Neuralinks and just,

Speaker 2 boom. hits it in the top of your head and implants it.

Speaker 2 Remember, it's the size of a human hair. Implants it right directly into the part of the brain where you need it.

Speaker 2 So he had this implanted. He started out just trying to move a cursor by looking at the screen and trying to move it.

Speaker 2 Now, the people who are helping him have never helped anybody do this before, so they're kind of just working this out. And he discovered that he

Speaker 2 was at first thinking, okay, cursor, move, move, move here.

Speaker 2 It didn't work. He said, I had to just imagine that the cursor was moving and the cursor would follow my imagination.

Speaker 2 So now they showed him playing chess, writing, you know, all of these things that he could do. He could open up any application.
He could do whatever he wants on screen because he can

Speaker 2 just imagines that he's typing and he's typing. It's amazing.
Truly amazing.

Speaker 2 And Elon Musk should be heralded for this. Yet another thing this amazing man has done for humanity.

Speaker 2 However,

Speaker 2 this is also

Speaker 2 with everything.

Speaker 2 Technology is a double-edged sword.

Speaker 2 This also

Speaker 2 could be used against you

Speaker 2 very powerful companies that have all of your information, know you better than you know yourself.

Speaker 2 Because the Neuralink not only downloads, it eventually will also upload. So the idea that Elon Musk has is first, help those who are suffering now or unable to do things.
Help them first.

Speaker 2 Then as you're developing this, also

Speaker 2 help the future because he believes that AI will conquer all of us unless we can be competitive with it, unless we can think

Speaker 2 as fast as it can think. So we have to be able to take our human brain and connect it online to the internet.
So

Speaker 2 you need information. You imagine you're searching for that information and all that information is all of a sudden downloaded into your head.

Speaker 2 But it's a two-way street. It can also take information, your dreams, your thoughts, your wants, your desires, the things that you don't ever want to even reveal to yourself,

Speaker 2 and it can download all of it.

Speaker 2 That's where control starts to happen.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 as I spoke to Ray Kurzweil

Speaker 2 before, when I asked him about this,

Speaker 2 I said, what about people who want to just be normal?

Speaker 2 He said, well,

Speaker 2 what do you mean? And I said, the people who won't want to take this and merge with machines. He said, well, why would you not want this?

Speaker 2 And I said, because maybe you want to just be natural. Maybe you just like the way you are.
You don't want a machine in your head.

Speaker 2 He said, oh, no, no, no. Everybody will want this.
I said, well, what about those who don't? He said, well, they'll be like the Amish.

Speaker 2 Except you can't let those people on a highway where you've let the Amish and the little flashing light behind them and you're like, ah, geez, the Amish. We should have at least another lane for them.

Speaker 2 You can't do that because things will be traveling at such a fast speed that he said, you will not only be harmful to yourself, you'll be harmful to the whole community. We will have to separate you,

Speaker 2 and you will want to because you won't understand what anybody's talking about.

Speaker 2 Because the conversations will be happening so rapidly at such a high level,

Speaker 2 you will feel like a moron.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 2 And the rest of society will view me as useless as well.

Speaker 2 That doesn't sound good.

Speaker 2 Got a couple of cuts that I want to share with you here in a second. Let me take a one-minute break and come back because I've talked to Ray Kurzweil about this stuff.

Speaker 2 If you don't know who Ray Kurzweil is, Ray Kurzweil is the guy who

Speaker 2 is actually

Speaker 2 responsible for a lot of this kind of thinking very early on.

Speaker 2 He was, why won't my computer recognize me? Oh my gosh, I hate this stuff so much.

Speaker 2 Ray Kurzweil is the guy who started this kind of thinking seriously in a non-scientific sort of, a non-science fiction sort of way.

Speaker 2 And it has all come to pass. And I want to play some of that here for you in just a second.
No computer. I don't want to shut you down.

Speaker 2 Sarah, I don't have my computer, so I have no idea what I'm supposed to be talking about here. I don't have my glasses.

Speaker 2 glasses but burna launcher go ahead oh burna yeah the burna launchers all right i love the burna launchers uh burna is a fantastic uh uh system

Speaker 2 that is like a gun except it won't kill somebody um not every time do you need to kill like for instance i say all the time

Speaker 2 I could kill Stu.

Speaker 2 And I 99% of the time, I mean it. But that 1% chance when I don't mean it, I should have my burn a launcher and just fire tear gas at him because it'll shut him down for about 40 minutes.
I do that.

Speaker 2 I do that three times a day. He's not talking on the show ever.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 10 Nice and easy. Nice and easy step to take.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 right now, boom, if I had my burn a launcher, boom, and he'd be on the cross, he'd be on the ground crying right now. And I'd be happy.
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Speaker 2 Everybody over 18 can use one.

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Speaker 4 You should have have shot me with your burner. I got that, Stu.

Speaker 2 See, I would have shot him with the burner.

Speaker 4 Help me, Stu, here for a second.

Speaker 10 Glenn is in the middle of the day. I'll be talking about how

Speaker 10 Neuralink and AI are going to take over your life, and he can't log into his computer at the same time.

Speaker 2 This is pissing me off so much.

Speaker 2 I don't know why. I don't know why my computer just decides to shut down.

Speaker 2 it could be Elon Musk using Neuralink going I'm gonna screw him I'm imagining his computer shutting off anyway

Speaker 2 I've talked to Ray Kurzweil Ray Kurzweil is the father of this kind of thinking and

Speaker 2 and and responsible for a lot of it he is the head of the University of the singularity

Speaker 2 and Here's what he had to say when we were talking about these kinds of things. Listen.

Speaker 8 We're going to be able to send nanobots, blood cell-sized devices, inside our bloodstream.

Speaker 8 They'll keep us healthy from inside, and they'll go inside our brains through the capillaries, and they'll interact with our biological neurons.

Speaker 8 And if that sounds very futuristic, there are already people that have computers in their brains.

Speaker 8 For example, Parkinson's patients have a pea-size computer in their brain that replaces the biological neurons that are destroyed by that disease.

Speaker 8 The latest generation actually allows you to download new software to the neural implant inside your brain from outside the patient. patient.
That's today.

Speaker 8 And this kind of technology is doubling in power every year. It's shrinking in size by a factor of 100 per 3D volume per decade.

Speaker 8 So 25 years from now, these technologies will be a billion times more powerful, 100,000 times smaller. We'll be able to send these nanobots into our brain.

Speaker 8 They'll interact with our biological neurons. And they will extend

Speaker 8 our intelligence. We will be a hybrid of biological and non-biological intelligence.

Speaker 8 In some ways,

Speaker 8 you're entering a place to where,

Speaker 8 could you be manipulated by this? Could somebody say, oh, I'm turning you off?

Speaker 8 No, I'd hate to have somebody be able to have control of what's physically in me and just say, oh, yeah, you know, I don't really agree with you. Click and turn you off.
I mean,

Speaker 8 you write.

Speaker 8 There are,

Speaker 8 I mean, technology has always been a double-edged sword. Right.
Ever since we had fire and stone tools. We're not going to make a leap from today to 2029 or 2045 in one big leap.

Speaker 8 I mean, we're going to get there hundreds of steps from now, one step at a time. And by the time we get there, we kind of get used to very radical changes.
I mean, look at today.

Speaker 8 Describe that to people 50 years ago. It would seem very daunting, yet we accepted

Speaker 8 the fact that you can take a device out of your pocket and with a few keystrokes access all of human knowledge. That seems incredible, but we take it for granted.

Speaker 2 I think that was 2008 with Ray Kurzweil on my show when I I was on CNN. I later then had him again

Speaker 2 on GBTV when we first started that about 2011.

Speaker 2 Now, the next advancement, listen to this. Here's what I'm concerned about.

Speaker 2 A, that, and we'll get into it later, on

Speaker 2 you're creating artificial intelligence, and you talk about it in this, that at some point you're going to go to reach and turn off your machine, your computer, and your computer and say, don't, I'm lonely.

Speaker 2 And so it becomes confusing on what life is, what the cell is.

Speaker 14 Now, we can't turn off the computers. I mean,

Speaker 14 our infrastructure would fall apart. Civilization would bring to a halt.
We no longer have our hand on the plug. And

Speaker 14 human decisions are a collaboration of human and machine intelligence already.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 14 And we're much smarter than we used to be. We have access to all human knowledge with a few keystrokes.

Speaker 2 But you're talking now also about whatever the device device looks like in the future, that it will answer a question

Speaker 2 before

Speaker 2 I ask it because it's listened to all of my conversations.

Speaker 14 That's fine.

Speaker 14 If you let it, but you will.

Speaker 2 Yes, you will. But

Speaker 2 my problem is not the technology, but who has access to

Speaker 2 all of my thoughts, all of my questions, all of my conversations. Where is that going?

Speaker 14 Well, this is an issue right now. I mean, we do very intimate things,

Speaker 14 like write tens of thousands of emails to a girlfriend

Speaker 14 on our personal computers, and we don't have absolute control of that information. Relatively few people actually have their lives ruined by invasions of privacy.

Speaker 14 There are a couple of people that might discuss that who were in the news recently.

Speaker 14 I mean, I talked to people, and

Speaker 14 privacy actually is alive and well. I mean, it used to be you just had to close the blinds in your bedroom, and now you've got a thousand virtual windows.

Speaker 14 But we actually have the means of closing those

Speaker 2 the senate just today just introduced a bill where they could they can read anything that is on your email or anything that is on your server so that gives the government without a search warrant or anything else just access to go in

Speaker 2 I mean your Google is already at least scanning all of my email to find keywords to target things. I mean,

Speaker 2 at some point, does it ever become minority report to you?

Speaker 14 Well, there's pluses and minuses. You know, did we have more privacy when there was one

Speaker 14 sort of party line that several families shared? And how did you have a private conversation with that? I mean, we actually have much more means of private conversations now.

Speaker 14 But privacy is a complicated issue. And I agree with you with concerns about government intrusion.

Speaker 14 I mean, the technological building blocks of Big Brother are there, but it's also very empowering of the individual.

Speaker 2 Holy cow.

Speaker 2 Holy cow.

Speaker 2 So there is something that is being done now for TikTok. Mike Lee has just introduced a new bill that kind of gets to this because last night, and you can watch it on YouTube, my YouTube channel just

Speaker 2 watched last night's Wednesday night special. I was talking about TikTok and all of these things.
And I came to the place where

Speaker 2 we need to

Speaker 2 own our own data. It's the only thing, the essence of who you are and what you think, you own that.
And that's all being sold all around the world now.

Speaker 2 And you're not getting anything for it. Every thought you produce is unique and yours.

Speaker 2 And they're just mining you for all of this, and you get nothing.

Speaker 2 And they could do it legally. So now

Speaker 2 Mike Lee is putting up a

Speaker 2 bill in the Senate for biometric information, genetic information, precise and historic geolocation information, private communications, all of it, all of it belongs to you and you can choose whether they can use it or not.

Speaker 2 There's got to be regulation on this or you lose the self. Glenn Beck.

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Speaker 2 Welcome to the Glen Vec program. So, a couple of days ago, I

Speaker 2 tweeted out or went on X and wrote, the House just passed a bill that could lead to a TikTok ban. It's no secret China is using TikTok to divide and spy on America.

Speaker 2 It's why I was happy when Blaze Media deleted the app. But are we about to give away more of our freedom in the name of national security? I wasn't sure on which side I fell on.

Speaker 2 That's why I did the show last night on Blaze TV, and I had two people, Thomas Massey and Chip Roy, debate it.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I think I'm very clear on where I stand now, but it's in the hands of the Senate. And Marco Rubio's office saw that

Speaker 2 tweet and

Speaker 2 asked if he could come on and maybe clear things up on what's happening in the Senate and where he stands. Senator Marco Rubio, welcome to the program.

Speaker 5 Well, actually, I wanted to try to convince you to move to Florida.

Speaker 2 That's the problem. Everybody's moving to Florida.
Have you seen the prices of houses?

Speaker 2 Holy cow. It only helps.
It's a great place.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, look, this is an important thing.

Speaker 2 Where do you stand on this?

Speaker 5 Well, I've been calling for this since 2019,

Speaker 5 but I want to explain why. First of all, let me just say that having a debate about this is a good thing.
I mean, we don't do that in the US.

Speaker 2 Yes, it is.

Speaker 5 This idea that we're going to ban a company from operating in the United States is not something we take lightly.

Speaker 5 I mean, that's an extraordinary amount of power you're putting in the hands of the government. We've done it.
We did it to Huawei, right? We did it to ⁇

Speaker 5 we don't want Chinese telecommunication companies operating in the U.S. because we know they pose a security risk.

Speaker 5 Whether there's evidence they're doing it or not, the capability to do it is unacceptable. So let me tell you what we know for a fact, okay?

Speaker 5 We know for a fact that China wants to become the world's most powerful country, and part of that strategy is to destroy America from the inside out, not just from the outside in, but from the inside out.

Speaker 5 And part of that is narratives to distract us,

Speaker 5 convince, put Americans to fight against each other. We do a good enough job as it is because we're a free people, but they would exacerbate that.

Speaker 5 You know, spreading all kinds of disinformation to divide us against each other, but also to further Chinese objectives.

Speaker 5 So, for example, convince us that it's a good thing that things are made in China because they're cheaper. And so, you know, drive

Speaker 5 those narratives and so forth. So we know that for a fact.
We also know that TikTok, the app, okay, the issue is not the app. The issue is not what people are saying on the app.

Speaker 5 The issue is that that app and what drives the videos you see, what makes TikTok so successful, is the AI artificial intelligence algorithm that literally reads your mind.

Speaker 5 The more you use it, the more it learns what you like, the more it knows what you like before you even know you like it. And so, this is a very valuable algorithm.

Speaker 5 That algorithm is not owned by TikTok. That algorithm belongs to a company named ByteDance.
And ByteDance is headquartered, and all of their engineers are headquartered in China.

Speaker 5 Like every company in China, they have to do whatever the government of China tells them to do. It doesn't matter who's on their board.
It doesn't matter who the shareholders are.

Speaker 5 China has a national security law that basically says, straight out, if we tell you you have to give us data, use your algorithm this way, you have to do it. They don't have a choice.

Speaker 5 Billionaire, Jack Ma, the richest man in China, tried to test one day and argued, well, you know, I'm Jack Ma. I'm the richest person in China.
I'm allowed to have opinions.

Speaker 5 He disappeared for 30 days. He no longer lives in China, and he was reminded that, no.

Speaker 5 So we know that they want to divide our country. We know that they want to, and so...

Speaker 5 And we know that a company that has to do whatever their government tells them to do controls an algorithm that in a moment of crisis or leading up to a crisis, for example, could be weaponized against us very quickly by driving messages to convince us.

Speaker 5 Call your member of Congress and tell them not to support tariffs because that means you're going to have to pay more for the clothes you buy, the cheap stuff you buy at Walmart or Amazon or even on Sheen or one of these Chinese websites and so forth.

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 2 look at what they did with

Speaker 2 the message of Osama bin Laden.

Speaker 2 All of a sudden, out of nowhere, all of these videos appeared of all these kids, Americans, saying, you know, I just read Osama bin Laden's manifesto, and I think he was right.

Speaker 2 You know, I think America, and, you know, they won't allow this exact device or algorithm in China on their own people. They are using it against us already.

Speaker 5 Right. And so the and the issue with that algorithm is not just that the video is there, but that the video is, you're going to see it.
And then they know how to target it, right?

Speaker 5 So they know who to target it at. Yes.
So whatever the issue may be, it's a weapon.

Speaker 5 I would say that we know that the Chinese, for example, want to hack our power plants. And they work every single day to get access to our power plants.
They're not doing it.

Speaker 5 They're not going to shut off our power today. But we know that they're sitting there waiting to do it.
Just like they have missiles that are aimed at the United States.

Speaker 5 They're not launching them, but they plan to if there's a war. And so if we know that a threat exists, we have to address it.

Speaker 5 And so the threat here is not TikTok per se, although that's what we call it, because that's the company, that's the public, it's the algorithm.

Speaker 5 And so what I believe, this is my goal, my goal is to ensure that no matter who owns that algorithm, it cannot be a company that is subject to the national security law of China.

Speaker 5 And basically that's to do with the Chinese tell them. It doesn't have to be owned by an American, doesn't have to be owned by someone we like, doesn't have to be owned by someone we agree with.

Speaker 5 But that's my goal. Now, some of the arguments that are used, can this, you know, if you write a law that way, or that's what the goal of the law is, then you can't weaponize that against...

Speaker 5 Look, I have huge problems with the way Google operates. They've discriminated against me, I believe, during my campaign.
I know they did.

Speaker 5 I have huge problems with the concentration of power in the hands of big tech in America.

Speaker 5 But the answer to that problem, which includes allowing us to be able to sue these companies because they have editorial control over stuff, they're not just a forum.

Speaker 5 They control what messages get out, what messages don't. They censor things like the New York Post story about Hunter Biden's laptop.
Okay, they should be able to be sued for that.

Speaker 5 That's the answer to that problem.

Speaker 5 But the answer to that problem is not to say, well, until we solve that, we can't deal with the fact that a foreign adversary, the most powerful foreign adversary we have ever faced in the case of China,

Speaker 5 controls an algorithm that drives the fastest growing social media platform in America. That's not the answer to the problem of Google and Facebook and Meta and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 So the way the House bill is written,

Speaker 2 the government could claim, the president could claim that Tucker Carlson

Speaker 2 is publishing Russian propaganda. And I heard people actually say this, that he was controlled by Russia.

Speaker 2 I mean, the way the House bill is written, it leads me to believe that if you could get enough people to believe that in Washington, then

Speaker 2 you could ban him as an agent or being controlled by Russia.

Speaker 5 Let me say first and foremost that

Speaker 5 I think this law will probably be amended or changed, and some of the things that people will look at are any potential vulnerabilities, because frankly, we now live in an era where you have to assume the worst.

Speaker 5 No, we should have, but you have to assume the worst, that any word you write in legislation could be misused now or in the future. So

Speaker 5 obviously that's not the intent, and so that's the effort.

Speaker 5 The second thing I would argue, and this is an important distinction, is we're not even saying that we're not banning videos on TikTok that approach China.

Speaker 5 People will continue to be able to put any posts they want on TikTok. That's not what the law would ban.

Speaker 5 What the law would ban is ownership of the algorithm by a company controlled by a foreign adversary, meaning that the algorithm is controlled by a foreign adversary.

Speaker 5 So no matter who it is, whether it's Tucker or anybody else, they have a First Amendment right to whatever opinion they have. And

Speaker 5 people can continue to use TikTok. You know, if ByteDance sells to somebody else, this law does not ban people going on TikTok and saying, we think China is better than America.

Speaker 5 We can criticize them for doing it. That's what the First Amendment allows me to do in return.
But

Speaker 5 it wouldn't ban pro-China messaging. And the reason, again, it's the algorithm that we're aiming at here, not that.

Speaker 5 And so the other thing is that the law, the way it's written, says it has to be domiciled.

Speaker 5 You know, it has to be domiciled, and the ownership has to be domiciled in a foreign country, and not just a foreign country, but a foreign adversary.

Speaker 5 But I'm more than happy to narrow this down to the Chinese, in essence, I'm more than happy to narrow this down to, say, companies subject to the national security law of the Communist Party of China.

Speaker 5 I mean, because I think that's what it came to.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think that would be the most narrow that you can make it, because I just don't want more power going to the government. And you're right, they will find ways to use it against Americans.

Speaker 2 I mean, look at CISA. CISA is being used against us now.
And

Speaker 2 they should be going after things like TikTok, et cetera, et cetera. And they're instead,

Speaker 2 they're operating

Speaker 2 and gathering information on Americans.

Speaker 2 That's not what we thought we were getting with CISA.

Speaker 5 But just to tell you, our laws on the books are weapons have not properly structured. Look at the state of New York.
Look what a judge in New York is doing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 5 Basically saying if Donald Trump can't come up with $400 and something million dollars, you don't even have a right to appeal a decision I made. This guy apparently now is a property appraiser.

Speaker 5 You know, we began this interview by you talking about the price of property in Florida, Florida, you know, and this guy thinks Mar-a-Lago is only worth, you know, whatever, I don't know what, nine, ten million, whatever.

Speaker 5 He said, some ridiculous number. But that's a law in New York, in the state of New York that's being weaponized for political purposes.

Speaker 5 We saw, you know, so I think that we live in this era where we realize that there are people whose hunger and thirst for power allows them to break every barrier, cross every guardrail that we've ever had in respect for our republic.

Speaker 5 So I have no problem with being as paranoid as possible in how we write this law. But we have to deal with this issue of

Speaker 5 this threat that we face from China because it is a real threat. Their goal is to

Speaker 5 destroy the United States

Speaker 5 America.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 since you brought up Donald Trump, there is a news story that broke today that you are on the very, very short list to be his running mate. Is that true? Do you know about it?

Speaker 2 Would you want to be his running mate?

Speaker 5 Well, first of all, let me tell you, anybody who gets a chance to serve as Vice President of the United States should consider that an honor.

Speaker 5 I have never spoken either to President Trump or anybody on his campaign about this or anybody else that they are considering for Vice President.

Speaker 5 The reason I'm in public service and the reason why I even ran for reelection, and it's a six-year contract you sign when you come here, is I still want to save this country.

Speaker 5 I love this country with all my heart. It changed the life of my family and the trajectory of my family.

Speaker 5 I mean, I'm not saying that people whose families were born here don't love the country this well, but when your parents came from somewhere else, you realize that but for the grace of God and the existence of America, how different my life would have been.

Speaker 5 And I think this country's in a lot, a lot of trouble. I mean, not just bad policy decisions, but existential threats to our very nature as a republic and all things that made America special.

Speaker 5 And it's not just political, it's also cultural. And so I have a lot of work to do here in the Senate.
So, but I, like I said, I've never talked to them about it.

Speaker 5 What I do know is that, unlike the Democrats, President Trump will have a lot of good options available to him, and I'm confident he's going to make the perfect and right choice.

Speaker 5 But I've never talked to them about it.

Speaker 2 How concerned are you that this election

Speaker 2 just doesn't end in madness? I mean,

Speaker 2 from either side, I don't know how you're going to, if it's close, I don't know how you're going to get either side to say, yep, that was fair.

Speaker 5 Well, and I think you have to look at all of these other things that are being done. I mean, we have people.
Peter Navarro is going to jail.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 5 But some gang member Venezuela is released on bond and may never even be charged. Right? So that's what we have to now see is that this is not just a political talking point.

Speaker 5 I mean, we have seen their hatred for Donald Trump, their hatred, okay, that's what this is.

Speaker 5 It's hatred and derangement about Donald Trump has caused them to do things that stretch the bounds of anything anybody thought was possible.

Speaker 5 I mean, if I had described to you four years ago and said, okay, they are going to, you you know, a former president, leading candidate, is going to face two federal indictments, including one in D.C., where there's no way you're going to get a jury that isn't going to be unfriendly to Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 Plus, state prosecutors like one in Georgia, one in New York, are going to try to bankrupt him. The other is going to try to put him in jail.

Speaker 5 In addition to that, they're going to go after everyone that ever worked for him and try to bankrupt them.

Speaker 5 If I just describe these things, and plus, you're going to have supposedly serious people trying to actually remove him from the ballot, things that they're going to impeach him twice, including once after he's out of office.

Speaker 5 You would have said that's not possible. That's not going to happen.
I mean, that's too much even for them. All of that has happened.
We're living all of that right now. This is a derangement.

Speaker 5 And derangement causes people to do things they wouldn't normally do, you would think. But their thirst and lust for power allows them to justify anything they do.

Speaker 2 And I think they don't like him because he is pro-America. You know, let's focus on America, America first.
And that can't be had by many people on the left and in the Democratic Party.

Speaker 2 Mark Arnobiel, thank you very much.

Speaker 5 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 5 Next interview, I'll tell you why they really don't like him, and because I think it's an important point.

Speaker 2 Okay. Well,

Speaker 2 can you

Speaker 5 get 15 seconds of what I would tell you is that, you know, we saw

Speaker 5 the other day where he said that about the bloodbath.

Speaker 5 They liked it when Republicans would use a term like that, which is not offensive in any way, and then the next day apologize, and they would say, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say it that way.

Speaker 5 I chose my words. They liked those Republicans.

Speaker 5 They don't like the Republican. It says, No, I meant bloodbath.
Here's what it says in the dictionary. And everyone knew this is clearly what I was saying.
And you guys are playing a game.

Speaker 5 They hate that he does that. They hate it.

Speaker 2 Please come on again. Marco Rubio, thank you very much.
Hey, thank you. Love talking to you.
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Speaker 2 Well, it's been quite a show today. Quite a program.
What do you think, Marco Rubio?

Speaker 2 Does he know? Does he not know?

Speaker 2 Have they talked about it?

Speaker 10 He was clear that he hadn't even talked to anyone there. Now, of course, look, I mean, no offense to Marco Rubio, but every politician says this type of thing.

Speaker 10 He did quite clearly leave the door open, which was very interesting. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Usually somebody will say, oh, I haven't talked to them. And quite honestly, I'm so busy in the Senate.
What he said was,

Speaker 2 I'd be honored. Anybody should be honored.
I mean,

Speaker 2 I'm doing things in the Senate, but yeah, I mean,

Speaker 2 over, yeah, right here.

Speaker 2 Call me. I mean, he didn't sound like you know, he was begging for the job by any stretch, but

Speaker 2 he was very open to it. Very open to it.

Speaker 2 All right, we will see you tomorrow.

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