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Today is, quite honestly, a show that hits close to home.

How How close?

Steve Baker, a journalist for Blaze TV, was arrested today by the FBI for doing journalism.

Now, I'm not saying that he agrees with

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and

I'm not saying he's a saint.

I don't know.

I think he's a really gentle, nice guy.

But he was in the Capitol doing journalism.

He was an independent reporter at the time.

He is now head guy of exposing all of the lies using the videotape and has been a very good friend helping understand and helping Congress understand how all these pieces fit together by using actual videotape.

That's why they're after him.

He's embarrassing them and showing them to be the liars that they are.

They've charged him now with four

misdemeanors, but they brought him into the courthouse in ankle cuffs and chains from the wrists to the feet for four misdemeanors.

This should be a clarion call to everyone that your republic is about to burn to the ground.

Alan Dershowitz was on today's program to talk about that.

Also, Ezra Levant called in from Canada to tell us what's happening in Canada.

If you think that's bad, wait until you hear what Canada is doing.

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You're listening to the best of the Glen Beck program.

Welcome to the Glenbeck program.

Glad that you're here.

Thank you so much.

We have.

Do we have Ezra on?

Ezra, welcome.

Thanks very much.

It's good to be here, but I've got bad news, Glenn.

Yeah.

What?

Canada just introduced the most draconian anti-free speech censorship bill in our history and in the history of any democratic country.

I've never seen anything like it.

Hang on.

Hang on, Ezra.

Ezra Levant.

I'll cork you.

I can't wait.

I know.

Ezra Levant is the host of the Ezra Levant show.

He started Rebel News, which is like the Blaze, has the same kind of mission as the Blaze.

Ezra, we just had one of our reporters

jailed, picked up by the FBI.

He was the one that is leading the investigation on January 6th.

He was arrested this morning about an hour ago.

And

we're in real trouble.

As a nation, we're in real, real trouble.

And you guys are following.

Actually, you're leading, I think,

because you guys have just introduced a bill yesterday that is bone-chilling.

Well, what you've just reported to me about the arrest of your reporter is terrifying, and I know that you will resist it at all costs.

You absolutely must.

You cannot allow the arrests of journalists for criticizing the regime to be normalized.

That is absolute priority one.

As you know, Ezra, that is the mainstream media is not going to cover this.

They're not going to cover it.

And it's

reprehensible.

If he was on the other side of the political aisle, you would be winning a Pulitzer.

There would be national press conferences for him.

You would see Amnesty International talking about it.

You might even see the United Nations talking about it.

But if he is conservative-oriented or a critic of the regime, it'll be crickets.

Let me tell you what's going on in Canada, because as I always say, what happens in Canada today may happen in the U.S.

five years from now.

It's like we're a bad time machine to see your future.

This week, Justin Trudeau introduced a new bill called Bill C-63.

It's got a lot of things in it that are atrocious.

He's created a new hate crime bill, life in prison, new hate crime law.

There's nothing that gets you left in prison in Canada, not even murder, but hate speech now does.

He's created a pre-crime for hate.

If you have, quote, fear of hate, fear of hate, that's the title of the section of the law.

You can get a judge to issue a kind of restraining order against your enemy before he does anything, before he says anything.

And that restraining order can include house arrest, giving up any lawful firearms, limiting who he can talk to directly or indirectly, limiting the places he can go and requiring him to take urine and blood tests.

Just because you are, quote, afraid

he might in the future say some hate speech.

He doesn't have to have done anything in the past.

This is a pre-crime, like in that science fiction movie, Minority Report.

That's in this bill.

Let me tell you other things in this bill.

Donald Trump and his travails with the U.S.

legal system, they're covered a lot by the Canadian media.

And Justin Trudeau is obsessed with Donald Trump.

So he's been watching what Democrats have done and he's learned from it.

Trump is being prosecuted by high-profile prosecutors.

Trudeau has won up that.

Trudeau has now said that anyone in Canada, even non-citizens, can file hate speech complaints against anyone.

And if they are successful, they get $20,000 from the target.

And the target has to pay a fine of up to $50,000.

So let me just say this more clearly.

If there's anyone on social media, because this is the social media law, Trudeau's introduced.

If there's anyone who has a YouTube video, a tweet, a Facebook comment that you think creates hate,

you can go to the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal and complain about it.

You don't have to hire a lawyer.

You don't have to spend any money.

The government will have the hearing.

And if your complaint is upheld, you get 20 grand from the victim.

So instead of having maybe 20 grand.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Who gets the 30?

The remaining 30?

20 goes to the complainants and an additional 50 goes to the government.

So you're on the hook for 70 grand a pop.

So let's take someone like Jordan Peterson.

Every day he's saying something controversial on YouTube, on Twitter.

Oh, and by the way, this applies to all of your historical work that's online.

So as long as it's still online and you control it,

they can go back through your history five years, 10 years.

And why wouldn't they complain about literally every tweet you make, literally every YouTube video?

There's no cost.

There's no downside.

And even if only 5% of your complaints get through to the target, you're smacking them with 20 grand for yourself and a 50 grand fine.

This will create a huge industry.

So Trudeau saw what they were doing to Trump and said, I can do one better.

I'm not going to have a few sniper shots.

I'm going to have a shotgun blast.

I'm going to have hundreds of complaints swarming my enemies.

And I don't even have to do it.

I will mobilize a woke army.

But there's one more thing.

and

people can't believe it when I tell it to them, but it's right there in the law in black and white.

You can make a complaint in secret.

And

the copy of your complaint never gets to know your identity.

You can give evidence in secret.

The complaint can be made in secret.

So you could have a company, a political party, a busybody.

who's literally filing 100 a day and you'll never know it.

And let me just be clear about one thing.

You don't have to be a victim.

You don't have to have any standing.

You don't have to be mentioned at all.

You can just do this as a hobby, as an obsession, as a job, as a political vengeance.

Maybe you're a disgruntled ex-employee.

This is all in Bill C-63.

And you take it all together.

This is the most draconian anti-free speech bill anywhere in the world, other than I suppose Iran and China, who just do this stuff naturally.

And kill you.

So what does that mean to people like you, Ezra?

Because you're going to be attacked.

Rebel news is going to be attacked.

You're out.

Let me just, let me go to first principles for one second.

Let me tell you what they're doing at the basic principle level here.

What is a hate crime?

What's hate, Glenn?

It's a human emotion.

If you never feel any hate in your life, you don't have a a fully formed personality, the challenge in life is to take these bad emotions and transform them into positive work, into reforming the world, into fixing a problem.

Hate comes from an underlying grievance.

So to pass a law to say we're going to ban hatred, that's impossible.

If it were possible, we'd have passed the Love Each Other Act a long time ago and we'd be in heaven.

So to criminalize a human emotion,

it's insane.

And that is what the law actually governs.

And I know because I was charged under a precursor to this law, about 15 years ago, when I published the Danish cartoons of Mohammed, I was charged with publishing something, quote, likely to expose a person to hatred or contempt, unquote.

So it's a pre-crime.

It's a future crime.

And it's not to do any actual damage.

It's just to hurt feelings.

And that's the thing is, it's so subjective.

We're all guilty in advance.

So even if the Soviet secret police chief, Lavrentiy Berry, said, show me the man, I'll find you the crime.

We're all guilty of having hate in our hearts.

So it's just whoever they choose to prosecute who'll get dinged.

So tell me this won't pass in parliament.

Well, the reason it was introduced this week is because last week, Justin Trudeau signed a new coalition agreement with a hard left-wing socialist party.

Justin Trudeau does not have a majority of seats in our house, so he signed a coalition deal with an even worse party.

And I fear this will be passed into law.

And I fear, you know, I mean, it'll take some time.

They're setting up three new censorship agencies, not one, but three.

There will be three new censorship bureaucracies.

And I think it's going to take them a number of months to get it going.

I think this will probably be operational in 2025.

And then it's going to be the final battle, Glenn, because, you know, this will bankrupt any critic of the regime.

And then there's those pre-crime restraining orders, and then there's the actual criminal prosecution.

They've created a standalone hate crime law for life in prison.

Not even murder gets you that in Canada.

So if this passes,

you've become

a Stasi state,

East Germany.

Yeah, the secret informants, the secret prosecutions, the secret witnesses, the subjective political nature of the crime, the three different agencies.

It's, oh, and they have special rules for Facebook, YouTube, Instagram.

They say if they get a complaint, a hate complaint, they must take it down within 24 hours or be subject to enormous fines.

And so there's no way you can adjudicate if something is right or wrong or fair or not in 24 hours.

And the fines are so enormous.

Basically, a complaint will automatically get things taken down.

Again, I'm going to tell you something now, and you're probably not going to believe me, but I swear it's in the text of the law.

There are fines in there that can tag global social media companies 8% of their global revenue.

So, Justin Trudeau, sitting up here in Canada, says to Facebook, if you break my law, I will fine you 8% of your entire worldwide revenue.

That's a $10 billion

fine.

I think Facebook, YouTube, Google, et cetera, I think they're probably going to push back on this, or maybe they'll just leave Canada and Trudeau's going to be fine with that.

Facebook has already left Canadian news because Trudeau said to them, you have to pay $100 million

to our list of approved journalists.

for the pleasure of linking to them.

And Facebook said, that makes no sense.

We're getting out of the Canadian news business.

You cannot post a Canadian news story on Facebook.

It blocks it.

Trudeau's fine with that because that hurts the independent guys like us.

You cannot read rebel news on Facebook.

We're blocked, as are every other Canadian news source.

We are becoming like China in that there's this great firewall of Canada going up.

Trudeau would be happy shutting down any independent sources of news.

Soon there will only be two kinds of journalists left in Canada: government journalists and banned journalists.

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Now, back to the podcast.

Alan Dershowitz is with us.

And Alan,

I have to tell you,

I'm experiencing a day I never thought I would experience in America.

The company that I founded is under attack by the government.

One of our

reporters is going to face a judge here in a few minutes.

We have the tape of him in the Capitol, and he has been charged with, I don't, where did it, what happened to the charges, Stu?

Do you have them?

I have them digitally here.

Give me one second.

Charges are as follows.

Knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority.

Now, that's one he's talked about.

And he said, you know, look, I'm a journalist, and I know, even as a journalist,

I'm not allowed to be in

these buildings, even if I'm covering these stories.

However,

the fifth person threw a broken window to enter the Capitol was a New York Times journalist, and they are not being charged.

And he didn't enter through a broken window.

The other two charges, or three charges.

Disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds.

Disorderly conduct in the Capitol building.

Didn't happen.

Parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol building.

Didn't happen.

Alan, what do we do?

Well, you know, when the government starts going after journalists, you know we're in real, real problem.

And they go after them selectively.

For example, a group of anti-Israel demonstrators early on, even before Israel sent in troops to Gaza, were demonstrating right in the Capitol Rotunda.

And

they were just, you know, politely asked to leave.

No charges, as far as I know, have been brought.

Likewise, with many, many other demonstrations, and for example, Black Lives Matter demonstrations and other demonstrations, when the government can pick and choose which journalists to go after and which protesters to go after, you know,

we're in

Russia, Iran, Cuba territory,

not Thomas Jefferson territory,

where as soon as he became president, he rescinded the alien and sedition laws that had blemished our statute books after the enactment of the First Amendment.

So we have to stand up and protect our journalists.

And, you know, I'm representing one of the people as well, a young law student who went into the Capitol and was charged with a felony.

As you know, the Supreme Court has granted review, and we'll hear argument soon, in a case involving whether or not you can charge obstruction of a proceeding.

And so I think the Supreme Court may give us some important guidance as to the limitations on what can be done to people who protested

on January 6th.

Look,

myself personally, I believe the election was acceptable, but I also believe that anybody who disagrees with that has an absolute right to protest it and protest it in a way that our First Amendment protects and journalists are doubly protected.

Yeah, he wasn't protesting.

He was there to cover what was going on.

He wasn't protesting.

It doesn't matter.

I mean, it doesn't matter.

He has the right to protest.

He has the right to cover.

He has the right to report.

And the government has no power to arrest somebody.

And these charges, you know,

trespassing.

And Justice Brandeis, in a great opinion 100 years ago, said that even trespass laws must give way to the First Amendment.

If you're, in his case, he was saying, if you're protesting capitalism and you walk on the lawn of a corporation illegally, the First Amendment prevails.

And so this is a case that probably will end up

in the right way, but not until he's dragged and wears shackles and he has to wear

all that stuff.

That's harassment.

I would think that all these cases should be stayed pending the Supreme Court decision because we don't know how far the court decision will go in permitting

protesters.

And it doesn't even deal with journalists.

As you say, journalists have a special right under the First Amendment.

But Congress shall make no law, no law abridging the freedom of the press.

And this is the freedom of the press.

Alan, before we move on to other things, I would like to talk to you about hiring you.

I don't even know how to go about doing that, but

I don't get hired on First Amendment cases.

I do it pro bono.

I've done half of my cases in my life have been pro bono.

I think almost all of my First Amendment cases,

virtually all of my First Amendment cases, have been pro bono, and I think I've won them all.

So

I have a pretty good record, and I know you do to help out.

I'm happy to help out.

Thank you.

I have to tell you, we're living in a country.

You said to me six months ago, you know, if these things happen, we're definitely living in a banana republic.

And have those things gotten worse or or better?

Oh, they've gotten much worse.

And especially the selective application.

And again, I don't want to focus too much on this because that's the subject of the show.

But these veeringly pro-Hamas, anti-Israel demonstrations that have involved spitting at Jews and calling them filthy names and

hitting them and harassing them,

they've been allowed to go on.

Whereas if you say anything negative about somebody of color, about a gay person, or about this administration,

you're in deep trouble.

It's the selective misuse

of prosecutions in the context of freedom of speech that's so dangerous.

If the government can pick and choose who to go after, I mean, as we're talking now,

the funeral of Navali is going on in

Russia.

People are going to be prosecuted if they're on one side.

If they demonstrate in favor of Putin, hey, they're going to get medals.

But if they demonstrate against Putin, you know where they're going to end up.

And we can't allow ourselves to become that kind of a country.

And we have to stand up against it, regardless of what our personal views may be of the events at issue.

We have to stand up for a single standard of free speech and free journalism.

I think that's what bothers me so much about this Fonnie Willis trial.

These guys, I've never seen, I've seen people perjure themselves before, but I've never seen them do it with such zeal.

I mean,

she didn't even have to testify.

And she was like, no, uh-uh, you're going to want to ask me.

I want to go up there.

I want to go up there and lie.

Right.

Look,

I don't have a lie detector in my brain, but I've been doing this now 60 years.

And I think I can tell the difference between people who are telling the truth and people who are hiding the truth.

And the three key witnesses in the Finney Willis case,

obviously, were doing everything to prevent the truth from coming out.

I just wonder, and we'll know in a few hours maybe, what the judge's attitude's going to be toward this.

I mean, it's going to be very difficult for an elected judge

in the same county where she's elected as the DA to look her in the eye and say, I just don't believe you.

I think you may be lying.

But I think she may be lying.

And I think most Americans who watched it on channels other than CNN, CNN, of course, said, oh, she's wonderful.

She didn't, you know, the witnesses haven't done anything wrong.

This is, she's fantastic.

But if you watched it on any other channel,

you would see for yourself.

I mean, who are you going to believe?

CNN or your lying eyes.

But

it was so clear that

this witness who came forward, the partner of Nathan Wade,

was doing everything in his power to try to take back what he had written.

He had written

in emails and texts.

And it's clear that their relationship began before they said she began.

But they, you know, he had gotten a phone call from a friend.

I don't know whether it was a threatening phone call or what, but clearly he decided when he took that witness stand, oh, no, no, no, no, I'm not testifying against these guys.

So

you also have the triangulation of their phones

that

mean, Alan,

this is the stuff that you would use or anybody else would use to convict a murderer.

It is the go-to tracking of phones, and they're trying to make it sound like, oh, well, you can't trust that.

He might have been in the area.

This is

craziness.

I have a case right now.

I won the appeal for a man convicted of murder.

I won the appeal.

It then went back and they had tracking material.

They had the pings.

And as the result of the pings,

he's now in prison.

And

I wrote a piece about this and I said, is Pony Willis going to now go in front of the court and say every prosecution that I ever brought brought based on pings, I now want to see them thrown out.

I want to see these people go free.

She is destroying one of the major weapons that technology has now provided.

Prosecutors, look, she has a right to say it's circumstantial evidence, and it is circumstantial evidence, but it's damn compelling circumstantial evidence.

If the guy is right near her apartment at 10 o'clock at night and leaves at 2.30 in the morning,

you know, that's reasonable.

People can infer from that.

Maybe he was in her apartment doing a little hanky-panky during those relevant hours, the hours in which most of these encounters occur.

So, you know, let the fact finder infer.

Let's see what the fact-finder infers from this.

I'm really curious.

Look, I wrote a book.

I've just finished my, but this is hard to believe.

I've just finished writing and publishing my fourth book in one year.

I'm so upset at what's going on.

Four books in one year.

The first one was Get Trump.

The most recent one is War Against the Jews.

But in the Get Trump book,

I go through all of these cases, and it's so clear that this is a selective prosecution, that if his name wasn't Donald Trump and if he wasn't trying to become president again, I'm not going to vote for him.

I'm not a Trump supporter, but I am a supporter of the Constitution.

If his name wasn't Trump and he wasn't running, there's no way he would be charged in Florida, in Washington, D.C., in New York,

in Fulton County.

These are all selective prosecutions, and we have to really stand up against it, whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, a liberal, a conservative.

We all share a commitment to the rule of law and to the Constitution.

That's why I write books.

That's why I can't stop writing.

My new book, War Against Woke, has just been published.

It's coming out in the next couple of weeks.

So, you know, I'm a writing frenzy.

That's all I can do.

It's frustrating.

I'm 85 years old.

If I were 25 years old, I think I'd be volunteering in Gaza to try to help destroy Hamas.

But I'm 85, so all I I can do is write and write and write and be on shows like yours.

To show that age doesn't matter,

Alan Dershowitz, who is 85, as he just said,

and sharp as attack.

Alan, thank you so much for everything.

Oh, it's my pleasure.

Thank you for doing what you do and keeping America on the right track.

Thank you.

Bye-bye.

Alan Dershowitz.

Just...

Every time he says it, when he says his age, I cannot stop thinking about the president of the United States.

I know.

There's a total difference.

Totally.

This is a very difficult day to be broadcasting.

We are facing real trouble.

I mean, that was an honest ask on my part for Alan Dershowitz, because I don't know who will defend the right

to free speech, the right of the First Amendment.

I don't know what attorney is willing to do that.

And for the first time in my life, I actually feel like in not a joking way, I've got to hire Alan Dershowitz.

The good news is I founded a company that has grown a spine well beyond mine.

And

we are not

going to be intimidated.

We are not going to be frightened away.

and we're not going to stop.

But with everything that is going on in the world, Steve Baker, who was arrested today by the FBI

and charged with nonsense,

we are going to defend him.

We are going to make him famous.

We are going to make him into the journalist the FBI claims he's not.

And we're going to do that by showing you the proof.

They threatened him for three years, four years, but they didn't do it until he joined us.

We understand

the consequences, but you will not intimidate us.

If our

if it means that we go to jail,

so be it.

So be it.

None of us want to go to jail, but I would rather be in jail than kowtow

to wannabe dictators.

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Joined today by Stu Bergeer, our executive producer, and Ricky Feldman, who is my executive producer for television

and

the real journalist among the three of us.

So we are waiting now in front of the

justice building, if you can call it that, the courthouse here in Dallas.

One of our colleagues has been arrested today for January 6th.

Could we just play the footage that we got from the Capitol last night?

There, I mean, look at this.

Steve is in this footage in the Capitol from January 6th.

He is up against the wall right there.

He's either writing or he is checking the pictures on his camera to make sure he's gotten the shots that he wants.

He's not even looking at what's going on at that point.

He's writing.

Yeah, he's not engaged in anything other than writing or something.

And then soon he's going to move around the crowd and he's going to stand in a doorway doing exactly the same thing except taking pictures.

Does it look very disorderly

to me?

No.

He's just texting or not a whole lot of parading.

His tripod is actually up against the wall.

Have you seen all of this footage?

No, we've only got, like, you heard the congressman.

No, no, no.

I mean, have you seen all five minutes of this?

Oh, yeah.

It's boring.

It's snotty.

It's very boring.

It's, it's, uh, I could see why the FBI didn't want to look at this.

I mean, this is not parading.

He's not even engaged with the crowd.

He sits, he's leaning against the wall as the crowd passes by, and it takes notes.

We've seen him try to document the events that are going on.

But, like, people in front of him are cheering, waving their flags.

He's just leaning against the wall.

Writing.

Writing.

And taking photographs and videos.

This is

insane.

But then again,

this is not the only journalist.

The other journalist that all other journalists seem to have turned their back on

is Catherine Aridge.

She was at CBS, right?

She was just fired.

She's been all over.

She's worked at ABC, NBC Fox, and she was at CBS.

They just fired her, and now she is facing jail time because she won't reveal the source of a witness.

And

that witness that whistleblowed to her was whistleblowing on how there is an infiltration in our universities from China.

And the government wants to know who her source was.

And so they're putting her in in jail.

What a surprise it has something to do with China.

So that's two journalists in jail today.

Ricky, I'm sorry, Jill.

Jill Savage is down at the courthouse, and she's, we're waiting for Steve to come out.

But what is the situation?

Have you heard, Jill?

Yeah, I did.

I was just up in the room with Steve Baker as he was going through his arraignment.

He was there with four

defendants walked in.

Steve, it was nice enough that they were letting him wear his blue dress pants and dress shirts.

So the orange jumpsuit that we were talking about earlier on the show, Glenn, did not happen, but he was indeed shackled at his wrists and ankles.

Steve looked over at us as he walked in to the courthouse and definitely showed those shackles there on his wrists and ankles.

And Steve, it is going to be known that he will be released sometime today.

They were asked that.

The government lawyer said that that was fine, that that was going to be part of today's proceedings.

And then he will be set to appear in court in the District of Columbia on March 14th at 1230 Eastern Standard.

So that will be the next thing that we should look for for Steve Baker.

Do we know the judge, Stu, in the

In the charges, it was signed by a District of Columbia judge.

We should look up the judge.

Is that the hanging judge?

I mean, mean, he's going into territory now where, you know, good luck getting a fair trial.

Yeah, absolutely.

And I think that was one of the things that the lawyers definitely knew what they were getting in for today.

We were able to speak with them just briefly before they went up into the courtroom.

But that is now the unknown, is what happens when things do get to the District of Columbia on March 14th.

Tell Steve that I talked to Alan Dershowitz today, and Alan is

willing to get involved pro bono to help him for free speech cases.

This isn't the only one, unfortunately, that is now popping up.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

That's Jill Savage.

She's a

Blaze TV reporter.

And if he shows up, we'll

take him.

Jill's going to interview him immediately,

but we'll take that.

And is that the same with

Steve Dace?

Is he going to take that or should we stay on?

Steve will he'll be able to talk to Steve Baker if we miss him in this last half hour.

So if your Blaze TV subscriber Steve Dace takes over for me in about 20 minutes

and

he will he will continue our coverage on this.

It is a really dark day for America.

Steve Baker is a guy who is an investigative journalist.

He's an independent correspondent that we had used.

We have since hired him.

And I think that's when his real trouble began, because we had the money to be able to fund him going in with a whole staff of people to go through these 40,000 hours.

of

video on January 6th.

And we showed that, I mean, these guys who have been convicted by testimony of absolute liars, provable liars, what he did a few weeks ago with two of the people that are testifying against a lot of these people in January 6th,

Steve went and he followed them on all of the video cameras in the Capitol.

And he could track them and where they said they were and what they said they saw and what they said they did and what the crowd did.

All lies.

Not even close.

Not like, oh, well, you couldn't see how he, not even close.

They weren't even there.

And that's what Steve's been working on.

And he's working on another story

that I can't tell you.

It's not my place.

And I don't think he has it all buttoned up.

But if it is true, if he can prove it,

it's regime changing.

Regime changing.

I am starting to look through the complaint.

Hang on just a second, Ricky.

Well,

I am starting to look through the complaint from the government.

There are some quotes in here that, you know, if Steve said this, and if they're in context, it looks damning.

I'm not a lawyer, so it would probably be good to have Alan Dershowitz look at it and just to ask Steve himself if we can.

I've emailed a few of those to you.

To me?

Yeah, I've emailed a few of those to you.

Well, they just came out while we were on air.

And where did those come from?

This is from the actual government complaint that was just released today.

We'll

certainly go through this as

we get it.

And

all the information that comes through is going to be a lot of legal wrangling and looking at this through not only the lens of public opinion, but also obviously the legal lens, which is going to be the more important thing for Steve personally.

But regardless, you know,

we've seen how many times the behind the scenes.

No way.

No way he said this.

The behind-the-scenes

text messages of FBI officials and CIA officials and journalists on the other side,

they say all sorts of stuff.

You know, this has been common and honestly usually dismissed.

by the left and certainly the legal institutions.

And by the way, all you have to do is smear somebody in a way you can't prove.

Smear somebody in because already anybody who is arrested for January 6th is going to be discredited by half the country.

Half the country will say, well, I got what I deserve.

We have the videotape.

You know, if, look, if he broke the law,

I'll stand against him.

I've told him that to his face 10 times.

Yeah.

Look, if I go in there and if I see you hitting a cop over the head with a flagpole, I'm going to be rooting for you to be in prison for many, many years.

There's just no evidence of this.

No, none.

None.

And that's all they need.

They just need people to

say,

well, he's got what he deserved.

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