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We got a lot on our plate today, but I want to start with illegal immigration.

I want to start where

CNN and AP and everybody else says, oh,

what are you talking about?

There's no problem with crime because of illegal immigration.

Yes, there is.

Daniel Horowitz is going to be joining us.

He's been compiling the stats.

It is a real problem and everyone knows it except the media.

But they continue to lie to you.

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And

all right, so anyway,

let's talk about illegal aliens.

And in fact, one specific case that the White House mentioned briefly yesterday.

White House spokesman finally commented on a report about Lake and Riley, her death late Monday afternoon.

They spoke about it.

They just said the murderer should be held accountable.

We'd like to extend our deepest condolences to the family and loved ones of Lake and Hope Riley.

People should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law if they're found to be guilty.

Given this is an active case, I love this.

They'll comment on anything unless it hurts them.

Then it's like, you know, you got to talk to the Justice Department.

I mean, we can't comment at this point.

What about Hunter Biden and his crack cocaine and hooker thing?

You're going to have to talk to the Justice Department.

What about Donald Trump and his documents?

That guy's a big fat liar, and he's spying on America with Russia.

Shouldn't we discuss that?

No, we've got that.

You don't need to go to the Justice Department.

We got that one handled.

So anyway, finally, they said something, but the reaction from the press has been grotesque.

CNN reported yesterday, in case you don't know,

Lake and Riley, she was jogging.

She was a university student in Georgia.

She's jogging in the morning, and she's brutally killed.

And what a surprise.

it was an illegal alien and this time from Venezuela.

So CNN reports yesterday, quote, there's little evidence leaking illegal immigration and crime after the Venezuelan migrant was charged in connection with murder of the 22-year-old Georgia nursing student.

Found dead Thursday, University of Georgia campus, signs of blunt force trauma after setting out for a jog in the morning.

The suspect is 26-year-old Jose

Antonio Ibarra.

He had crossed into the U.S.

illegally near El Paso in September 2022.

The Border Patrol caught him at the border and then just gave him a ticket and released him into the United States.

So

he had been stopped, but then he goes up to New York and he got in trouble in New York.

He was arrested last year in New York by the NYPD and charged with

acting in a manner to injure a child less than 17 and a motor vehicle license violation.

They didn't do anything

up in New York.

They just let him go.

And now

and now this.

so

now a new poll shows that many Americans think that there is a influx of illegal immigrants and that is causing an increase to crime and let me just say that's not true it's not true well it's not entirely true it is the administration's

new regulations and guidelines that are letting all of these people in.

in.

We're having all of these problems because of the new guidelines.

And then on top of that, we also have new guidelines issued by all of these district attorneys all over the country that were hired by none other than George Soros.

Good, so we got that going for us.

That's what's causing crime.

We're not enforcing our laws at the border, and then we're not enforcing our laws in our cities.

Our government isn't enforcing the law.

Our DAs aren't enforcing the law.

And that's why you have criminals going crazy because they know

I don't, I'm not going to be charged with anything.

I'm going to let go.

It's not a problem.

So yesterday, Biden was taken on by Donald Trump.

He said,

this is...

This is the problem with the Biden administration and our border.

And everybody went crazy.

By the way, he was charged with malice murder, felony murder, aggravated battery, aggravated assault, false imprisonment, kidnapping, and hindering a 911 call and concealing the death of another.

I don't know.

That seems pretty serious.

So they are not letting him go this time.

The reason why they let him go last time in New York City is because

New York City is a sanctuary city.

Hmm.

By the way, his brother also charged on Friday for possessing a fraudulent green card, being held in state custody now.

The federal arrest affidavit for Diego, the brother who killed the girl, says that in September 23, Athens-Clark County Police charged him with drunken driving and driving without a license.

Oh, so he just did it in New York and then came down to Georgia.

Oh, and he was also later arrested for shoplifting

and then skipping out on anything having to do with showing up for court.

A majority of Americans now say that

a border wall has to be done.

This is the first time since the history of polls that a majority of Americans say, border wall, please.

Trump says, I'm going to have a massive deportation.

He said, it's going to be the largest deportation if I'm elected.

Massive deportation.

It'll be the biggest in

history.

Okay, well,

how do people feel about that?

Well, I don't know, but I'll tell you how the Washington Post feels about it after hundreds of thousands of Mexican migrants were put on buses planes and boats during the scorching summer of 1954 and sent across the U.S.

border into often unfamiliar parts of Mexico the head of the Immigration and Naturalization Service declared the border secured it was the so-called wetback problem

But the military-style campaign, which used the same slur in its name, Operation Wetback, tore families apart, forcibly uprooted people in the name of securing the border, experts say.

And sometimes those efforts turn deadly.

Now, first of all, can I just ask why it was a smear in 1950

to

call this Operation Wetback?

That's before it became a slur.

Operation Wetback was called that because the people that were being deported were the people that crossed the Rio Grande and swam across or came across and they were wet when they got out.

Now it's a slur, but it wasn't in the 1950s.

Now, former President Donald Trump is using the Eisenhower era operation as a blueprint for his vision.

It will be the largest domestic deportation operation in American history.

It will remove 10.5 million undocumented people in the United States, of whom two-thirds have lived in this country for more than a decade.

Now, wait a minute.

Hold on just a second.

Why is it that we're going after the ones who have lived here for a decade?

10.5 million?

I think we should probably start with the ones that are here that just came here and have no reason to be here.

and

are causing real problems.

You can go with the last 10 million that have come in, and they aren't the ones who have lived here for more than a decade.

Got to get them, because if you don't get them now, what's going to happen?

The press will say, they've been here for more than a decade.

Americans can expect, this is Donald Trump, Americans can expect that immediately upon President Trump's return to the Oval Office, he will restore all of his prior policies, implement brand new crackdowns that will send shockwaves to all the world's criminal smugglers, and marshal every federal and state power necessary to institute the deportation operation.

That's a spokesperson from him yesterday.

Undocumented illegal immigrants should not get comfortable because very soon they'll be going home.

Now,

that's what the Trump people said yesterday.

The Post is saying that's horrible.

You watch the number of people coming across the border.

The more this is publicized, what he's saying,

the number of illegals coming across our border will go down.

Why?

Because what the president says matters.

When Joe Biden said, no, I'm not encouraging people, I'm not at all, yes, he was.

Is Donald Trump discouraging people?

Yes, he is.

Is that a good thing?

Yes, it is.

But when describing the operation on what Trump's plan is built, says the Washington Post, experts commonly land on the same word.

What's that word, Stu?

What do you think it is?

What do you think it is?

Experts.

All the experts are saying the same word.

Hmm, gosh.

There's so many that pop to mind, but

I don't know what it is.

Inhumane.

Inhumane.

It's inhumane.

Oh, gosh.

It's inhumane.

Yeah, just inhumane.

I'm wondering if they're talking to any experts that

agree with

border policies that secure the border, I wonder.

When Trump harkens back to that, I think we've got to be really clear about what kind of a law enforcement campaign he is threatening to unleash, says

little Hernandez, who holds the Thomas E.

Lifke, Endowed Chair, History of UCLA.

It's not just mass deportation.

It's mass racial banishment.

No,

no.

If you're coming in from Russia, I want you out.

I mean, if you're doing it illegally, if you're coming in from China, I want you out.

You're coming in from Sweden, I want you out.

England, I want you out.

If you're coming from Iran, I really want you out.

You're coming from hostile countries.

Buh-bye.

If you're coming here just because you're a family trying to better themselves, go through the front door.

And you know what?

Bring your family instead of just sending your 20-year-old son.

I just think, you know, we got enough of angry 20-year-olds on our own.

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So the media now is doing their best to say that crime is not a problem because of illegal immigration.

We know that that's not true.

That doesn't mean that everybody who comes across illegally is a lawbreaker lawbreaker other than coming here illegally.

You know, they're not all rapists and murderers, but

we seem to have our fair share now from overseas.

And I love the people who say you cannot violate the rights of people just because of this one murder.

Yet they're the same people who say we should take away everyone's guns because if it will just save one life, it's worth it.

Well, you know what?

Not letting the legal immigrant in would have saved one life.

In fact, would have saved a lot of lives here recently.

To talk about it is Daniel Horowitz.

He did a podcast yesterday on this.

He's compiling the stats of crime

from illegal aliens.

Daniel, what did you find?

Hey, well, it's great to be back with you, Glenn.

And look, if last decade's criminality from foreign nationals was defined by MS-13, I think we should start to familiarize ourselves with Trende Aragua, because that is the Venezuelan prison gang that was essentially sent up here by President Maduro in Venezuela.

And why not?

You can't blame him.

He knew that our door was open, so he figured he'd get rid of his problems.

We focus a lot on the quantitative aspect of this border invasion, that quantitatively, it's much greater than we've ever seen, probably about 10 million between the apprehensions and gotaways since Biden took office.

But qualitatively, when I speak to border agents, ICE agents, and then reporters down at the Darien Gap in Panama, they say they have never seen so many young male belligerents with tattoos that kind of look like they want a piece of you.

And now, if you go to the New York Post, every day you will find stories of those arrested and then turned out loose within 24 hours in New York City.

We find it in Chicago.

So, this alleged murderer of Lake Lake and Riley is not in a vacuum.

This is something that we are going to deal with for years,

you know, in the next number of years if we don't get rid of them very soon.

So, Daniel, when you talk about the border issue, you mentioned the difference between the qualitative and quantitative problem here, and it is significant.

Obviously, the quantitative problem has been well documented.

When you talk about the people coming across the border, though,

you know, we hear about potential terrorists.

We hear about drug dealers.

What is the biggest issue that border agents are facing?

Sure.

I mean, again,

we've seen all these pictures where we have young military-age males just marching through the border that we've never seen before.

And it turns out that, I mean, at least from what I'm hearing, is that the Venezuelans

have the highest concentration of criminal elements simply because it's not by accident.

It's not natural selection that, you know, you're going to have a lot of ruffians coming over a border because that's what a lot of them do.

Some of them are just desperate, but a lot of them are criminal elements.

This is a concerted effort on the part of Maduro to send his prison gangs up here.

And you're finding this a lot in places like Miami, places like Chicago, and New York.

Even local media is reporting on it, where they're having a number of gangbangers arrested.

Chicago arrested just a handful, you know, five, ten Venezuelan nationals in 2022, but then last year, in 2023, they arrested 700 of them.

And again, this is not just looking like you're an illegal alien.

These are people usually it's shoplifting, it's assault, it's driving without a license, drunk driving.

And you know, I've chronicled this for about 15 years.

Now, you can't use the numbers now because Biden doesn't enforce the law, but when Trump was president and they were trying to apprehend people,

in just one given year, we would typically get, and this is reoccurring every year,

enough people arrested in that kind of sweep, that net of enforcement,

to account for 2,000 homicide-related offenses, meaning both

convictions and arrests, 1,600 kidnappings, 3,800 robberies, 37,000 assaults, 10,000 sex crimes, and usually about 80,000 or so DUIs.

The numbers were pretty consistent every single additional year.

Now, typically, especially back then before the George Floyd crime rave,

we typically had maybe 14,000 homicide arrests in a given year.

So to have 2,000 accounted for among the jurisdiction of ICE, illegal aliens, some of them legal, but criminal elements that are deportable, that is an astounding share.

That's one in seven.

And again, this is before the Biden wave.

So you can imagine now that you're having all these belligerents from Venezuela.

Just think about this.

We've had 335,000 Venezuelans come in just in the first few months.

I'm sorry, just in 2023.

Plus, Biden granted temporary protected status to 470,000 others.

Just 834 have been removed.

Okay?

So that is how ubiquitous that problem is.

What is amazing to me is at the same time this is going on, by the way, that is exactly what

was his name in Iraq, Saddam Hussein did right before we went in to cause chaos on the streets.

He emptied the prisons.

That's what Maduro did, except into the United States.

And his reward for that was the United States allowing him to sell more oil, even to us.

So

this is a chaos operation, but we're also all seeing

stories almost every day, if you're paying attention to it, of

your key word there was belligerent.

They

feel like they are above the law.

They know they're not going to be charged.

And so they'll beat police officers.

They'll flip people off.

They are super citizens almost.

That's the way they act.

And what you're finding, especially in these blue areas, is an amalgamation of the invasion and then jailbreak, what they call criminal justice reform in New York City.

So they turn out all criminals loose the next day.

But in this case, you have, you know, the people let out of Rikers Island, domestic criminals being let loose.

And then now you have all these Venezuelans coming in, committing crimes, often three or four crimes, and they get released every time.

I want to throw out another number that's very important.

I've tracked for a number of years.

There's something called ICE's undetained docket.

So what that means by its very nature is these are the people that are on ICE's radar to at least investigate, often target for removal, but they remain undetained.

Right now, there's only about 37,000 people in ICE custody.

That's about the maximum of what they could handle.

The undetained docket is 6.2 million.

Okay, so I want people to...

Oh, my gosh.

6.2 million.

Now, I don't have the recent numbers, but

in the old days, and I don't think this has changed, about 80% were criminal aliens.

So they had criminal charges and or convictions in addition to being here illegally.

Think about that.

There's only 5,000, 6,000 ICE ERO officers, deportation officers around.

Limited resources.

We already know that under this administration, if you're caught drunk driving, you're not really a priority.

That's not considered a high-level crime.

So there are 6.2 million in their undetained docket.

Just think about the needless murder victims, rape victims, and we're seeing this now every day.

The media tries to cover it up.

We saw

a rape of a minor allegedly committed by an illegal alien south of Lynchburg, Virginia yesterday.

It was a case in Montana I was just looking at.

If the American people would actually know the extent of how many of these heinous crimes are committed by people that should never be here, and there would have been multiple opportunities to get them out, they'd be up in arms, and this would be our George Floyd moment.

Imagine if you are a

citizen and your governor is telling you, hey, we need homes for these people.

Take them into your home.

How stupid do you have to be?

I mean, it's unbelievable.

Picture the worst of the bloods and the crypts in your own downtown.

That's what we're importing from all over the world.

Each country's problems.

You know, you'll have some desperate, impoverished people that are kind of peaceful too.

Certainly not in our best interest to let them in.

But this time we are just seeing a total invasion.

And what's important is legally, this definitely meets the definition of invasion under the compact clause that should trigger state authority for removals.

And I think this is where it's important.

You know, when you look at that 6.2 million number, you look at what we're seeing now from that individual charged with murdering Lake and Riley, along with his brother.

They were caught in a red state here illegally and having committed other crimes prior to this alleged murder.

And yet, they remained.

Some of them are because of sanctuary policies, but sometimes, even if you're not a sanctuary state, but now you have sanctuary nation.

So here's the thing.

Let's say

a state might want to deal with that individual, maybe lock them up, maybe try to remove them.

But ICE now grabs them with a detainer, and now a detainer is a double-edged sword because they'll place a detainer enough that the state cannot enforce the law against them, but it's not like the the feds are going to actually remove them or even detain them.

They're going to be on their undetained docket out free to commit more crimes.

This is where the red state governors need to get together and say, look, if we catch someone here illegally committing an assault, a drunk driving, they need to be out of here.

Daniel, can you address one more thing before you go, which is the media's response to this talk every time is to say, well, actually,

immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than U.S.

citizens.

They're not the problem here.

Sure.

So they're right in a sense.

Immigrants, okay, so

legal immigrants on average commit fewer crimes.

And the reason is because on average, they come to the United States at an older age that's past the sort of criminal career age, you know, 16 to 30.

They're usually older when they come.

They're more established.

With that, I would say there are certain pockets of the world that we accept immigrants even legally that still commit too many crimes because the amount of crimes that should be committed are zero because they're vetted.

You know, it's kind of like a draft pick.

You get your choice.

You could pick your immigrants.

You can't pick your natives, native-born, that is.

But as it relates to the people coming from the border, again, you look,

you know, if we just have a minute, I want to give you a statistic that, again, is astounding.

You have about 45 seconds before I have to break.

In 2020, Trump's ICE director, Matt Albins, he said that in one year in New York City, they issued 7,500 ICE detainers.

And out of those individuals, they included 200 homicides.

Okay.

Oh, my God.

I looked up that area of operation.

There were fewer than 300 people arrested for all homicides in that area of ICE operation in one year.

I'm not saying they necessarily commit two-thirds.

You have to study that, but it is surely greater than their share of the population.

Daniel Horowitz, you can hear his podcast on the Blaze, Blaze TV.

He did a whole podcast about this yesterday, and he's always, always

really buttoned up and

has a different view on a lot of things that I think you should hear.

Daniel, thank you so much.

Appreciate it.

Thanks for having me.

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Stu is strangely fascinated by this Wendy Williams story, which I really,

I mean, I don't.

I am.

I'm not sure I know who she is.

Yeah, that's understandable.

My wife used to watch her show years and years ago, and she was a radio personality.

She came from the world of radio, and she got this big show and kind of seemed like it was hard to understand.

I didn't understand how she was getting super famous and got a big show, but she did.

There's a lot of that going around.

Yeah, I mean, you, you're a great example of it.

So,

so she became really famous and got this big show on daytime TV, became a big thing, and then like suddenly started having kind of weird health problems and would like miss months and months of the show at a time.

And it was kind of like, it was just a strange story, like what was going on with her.

And apparently, like, this went way down the road and it didn't look great.

She eventually was planning a comeback, planned a documentary to come film her comeback for this, for her show.

And it went the opposite direction.

Like, her whole life fell apart and it got terrible to the extent that I guess she was drinking so much that

maybe it forced some sort of dementia to hit her.

And now she

has, she got put under a conservatorship or a guardianship type of situation.

That guardian seems to be blocking her from her family in some way.

And the cameras were there for all of it.

So it's a crazy documentary.

It just aired this weekend.

I have not seen it yet, but the story is fascinating.

What did it air on?

I think it was a lifetime, maybe.

I don't know, but I mean, it...

That's still a network

on?

Still a network.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wow.

So we're learning all sorts of things.

It's been a long time since I've touched the television to turn the TV on and let

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Are we hurtling towards World War III?

And who wants it?

Why does the administration seem to want World War III?

And now the New York Times.

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I want you to listen to this story from the New York Times and just help me out a bit, will you?

Sure, of course.

Nestled in a dense forest, the Ukrainian military base appears abandoned and destroyed.

Its command center a burned-out husk, a casualty of a Russian missile barrage early in the war.

But that is only what's above ground.

Not far away, a secret passageway descends to a subterranean bunker where teams of Ukrainian soldiers track Russian spy satellites and eavesdrops on communications and conversations between Russian commanders.

On one screen, a red line followed the route of an explosive drone through as they threaded through the Russian air defenses from a point in central Ukraine to target in the Russian city of Rostov.

Now, Stu,

I don't think this is a secret when it's in the New York Times.

But my first question here is, Why would the New York Times be talking about something that's just a few yards away from a military base?

It's probably not hard to narrow this down, from a military base where there's hardened bunkers tracking everything and sending the drones that they're trying to stop.

Why would the New York Times put that in here?

It seems like

it seems like a bad move.

If you want Ukraine to be victorious in a war, you wouldn't necessarily want to tip your hand to the Russians.

You're right, obviously, they don't give specifics exactly, but again, this is probably something they could pretty easily narrow down.

So, yeah, so why would you do this?

So now the next paragraph comes in.

The Russian underground bun,

sorry, the underground bunker, built to replace the destroyed command center in the months after Russia's invasion, is a secret nerve.

It's not secret, if I'm reading about it in the news, is a secret nerve center of the Ukrainian military.

But there's also one more secret that now that we're printing it is no longer longer a secret.

The base is almost fully financed and partially equipped by the CIA.

General Cerny Doworsky said 110%.

Really?

110%?

That's true?

It took root a decade ago, coming together in fits and starts under three very different U.S.

presidents, pushing forward by key individuals who often took daring risks.

It had transformed Ukraine, whose intelligence agencies were long seen as thoroughly compromised by Russia, into one of Washington's most trusted and important intelligence partners against the Kremlin today.

The CIA helped train a new generation of Ukrainian spies who operate inside of Russia, across Europe and in Cuba and other places where the Russians have a large presence.

Well, that's helpful.

Can we reveal the NOC list too?

The relationship is so ingrained that the CIA officers remained at a remote location in western Ukraine when the Biden administration evacuated U.S.

personnel in the weeks before Russia evaded.

During the invasion, the officers relayed critical intelligence, including where Russia was planning strikes and which weapons systems they would use.

The Russian head of the Russian or sorry, the head of the Ukrainian domestic intelligence agency said, without the CIA,

there would be no way for us to resist the Russians or to beat them.

Oh

now, Stu

why

would the New York Times print this?

Maybe they're desirous of World War III.

It could be

one potential explanation.

Like, you're trying to spark a flame that will result in

all of us being lit on fire and a fire explosion across the entire globe.

So what would make you to jump to something like that?

Well, it seems like

if the basic argument is actually

we've been spying on Russia through Ukraine this entire time and these suspicions of Vladimir Putin that the West is using Ukraine for these types of purposes are well,

well, have a pretty viable foundation of truth.

That seems to be a terrible, terrible thing to be throwing into the New York Times.

Now, look, I would assume the Russian military is aware of a lot of these things already.

I mean, this is obviously their job and their business.

But I don't think drawing more attention to it is a good idea.

So let me ask you.

It's implied, and pretty much everybody knows, that Russia and China are hacking into our systems, that Russia has hacked into our power grid, et cetera, et cetera.

But what does Putin say about it in the Russian media?

Nothing.

Not true.

Right.

That's not true.

We don't do that.

Okay.

What if it came out in Pravda

and it quoted the head of the operation in Russia and it said, absolutely, we have been targeting their critical infrastructure for years now.

We have them on the ropes.

And you know who told us all of this?

Canada.

Canada has been working with us to make sure the Niagara Falls power plant is the first to fall.

What would we do?

We are headed for World War III.

Let me give you a couple of stories that show that this is wanted by too many people.

This is from the Financial Times this weekend.

Jan Stoltenberg said that there was no doubt that Ukraine would join NATO as Western leaders gathered in Kyiv to pledge support and mark the second anniversary of Russia's full-scale invasion.

The NATO chief said on Saturday that Russia President Vladimir Putin started this war because he wanted to close NATO's door but he has achieved the exact opposite

Ukraine is now closer to NATO than ever before

huh

he said NATO is helping Kyiv to make its forces more and more in interoperable Ukraine will join NATO it is not a question of if but of when he insisted okay so let me see.

On the same weekend, we have

NATO,

what Putin said was the real problem,

they were going to expand NATO to places like Ukraine.

Yes, we're going to do that.

We're going to do that now.

And also, that's the same weekend that the New York Times reports: their secret under bare ground bunkers run by the CIA.

Okay.

Great.

Now, if again, this was about Canada

and

Russia said they're expanding their presence and they're going to put military in Canada on our border

and they admitted to, you know,

doing secret operations with Canada to be able to destroy us,

what would we do?

Mr.

Orban came out, Victor Orban of Hungary.

He declared an end to the months-long spat with Sweden over the expansion of NATO, saying that a visit by his Swedish counterparts had rebuilt trust and paved the way for Hungarian parliament to vote on Monday, that's yesterday, to ratify the Nordic nations' membership in NATO.

We're ready to fight for each other, to give our lives for one another, he said.

Really?

The sudden warming of relations between the two countries followed a decision by Sweden to provide Hungary with four Swedish-made Gripen fighter jets, in addition to the 14 its Air Force already uses, and a promise that Saab, the maker of the warplanes, will open an artificial intelligence research center in Hungary.

Okay,

so that's

good.

That's good.

Why are we headed toward war?

Why?

By the way, Sweden, Hungary did approve that in Sweden, that vote you mentioned, 188 to 6.

Yeah, I believe Hungary was the one saying, let's not piss off the bear.

Why would we be talking about expanding NATO?

I believe I've heard Orban

say those very things.

Why would we do that?

Four jets?

Really?

That's all it took was four jets?

I don't think so.

I don't think so.

There is a game being played here that I really don't like.

And our country is becoming

a little crazy.

Let me give you this story.

The Iranian-backed Hamas terrorist group praised a far-left extremist who lit himself on fire outside of the Israeli embassy in Washington, D.C.

on Sunday and used his death to promote Islamic terrorist propaganda.

Aaron Bushnell, a low-level software engineer with the U.S.

Air Force, screamed, Free Palestine as flames engulfed his body after he

doused himself with a flammable liquid and then lit himself on fire.

He later died from injuries.

Bush now repeated terrorist propaganda in the moments leading up to the incident, falsely claiming that what was happening inside Gaza was genocide and calling Israel colonizers.

Now that sounds like a far-left radical, doesn't it?

Oh, I forgot.

We're not looking for hard left radicals in the military.

Only those Christian nationalists and those who want to have insurrection in the United States.

Now here's why this is so bad.

Let me take you first

to what Cornell West tweeted.

Let us never forget the extraordinary courage and commitment of Brother Aaron Bushnell, who died for truth and justice.

I pray for his precious loved ones.

Let us rededicate ourselves ourselves to genuine solidarity with the Palestinians undergoing genocidal attacks in real time.

I want you to mark this place

in time right now.

This truly is a mile marker.

This makes Aaron into some kind of suicide bomber

when, you know, they'll be rewarded in heaven.

We are not a culture that rewards suicide or suicide

acts, suicidal acts, especially for politics.

Instead of one of the 50,000 plus Americans who committed suicide in the last year,

instead of mourning another lost life,

lost to mental illness, we're confusing suicide with martyrdom.

Those who kill themselves for ideology should not be praised.

But that's exactly what Hamas said.

That's exactly what Cornell West said.

Praising ideology over human life.

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want to dwell here for a minute on this suicide and the praise.

When you saw somebody set themselves on fire in Washington, D.C.,

and he was a U.S.

Air Forceman,

what was the first thing that went through your mind, Stu?

First thing.

He's insane.

Yep, that was the first thing that went through my mind.

What insanity.

What insanity.

It's not going to change anything.

And you have to be insane to light yourself on fire.

Okay, what was the second thing that came to mind?

The Arab Spring.

Really?

The Arab Spring.

Yeah.

The guy who was in the cart.

Yeah, he set himself on fire.

And how this setting yourself on fire has some history to start

movements

revolutions, yes.

So a history to start revolutions.

And are those revolutions from the right or are those revolutions from the left?

Typically the left.

And the guy who said

he had a food cart

in Tunisia and he set himself on fire, which kicked off the Arab Spring.

Did the media and all of the people that were somebodies praise him or say that he was a bad guy they praised him

they praised him so now let's see

seems like we have if we have a box of uh of things to do just a whole checklist seems like we've checked off the arab spring okay

we are now praising this

Think of MAID up in Canada.

MAID is medical assistance in dying.

This is ideology prized over life.

They are now allowing people who are handicapped, have mental disorders,

to

be killed.

I mean,

have we forgotten what happened the last time that this was done?

Think about the DAs releasing criminals back onto the streets.

We know this is not working.

We knew this was, some of us knew this was bad when they said we're going to reimagine policing.

But it again is ideology more important than life.

The border, keeping it open.

That ideology is more important than human life.

Keeping the border open because of fentanyl, more important than human life.

We are becoming a culture of death.

And this suicide and the praise from notable people in America that this is heroic is a very big signpost we just passed

ideology over life suicide is not heroic And even in an ideological culture of death, it cannot smooth over the real human pain of losing someone.

This is exactly

what they do in the Middle East.

They praise the suicide bombers.

They praise the people who will commit suicide on behalf of their ideology.

You'll notice that the media is covering for this, and no one is talking about investigating to see how this Air Force guy was in the Air Force, and no one caught this.

My guess is no one's looking for that kind of extremist.

I just, I, last thing to say on this.

Deuteronomy.

I call heaven and earth to witness against you today

that I have placed before you life and death, the blessing and the curse.

So choose life in order that you may live, you and your descendants.

We are in a culture of death that has been a wannabe suicide cult, and there are people endorsing this suicide today.

If you and your descendants care to live, then you must choose life over ideology.

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They're very, they're very sensitive.

So as I lose my voice again,

please put up with it for as long as you can.

I appreciate it.

Although,

you know, Jason Buttrell is with us and he pointed out that it sounds very sexy, which I was uncomfortable with, quite honestly.

Yeah, sounds, oh yeah.

Ding-dong pizza delivery.

That's right.

Oh yeah.

Hi.

I'm from the Georgia District Attorney's Office.

See?

Want to leave my phone at your house for a while.

Anyway, okay, so Jason is here to talk a little bit about what's happening with

this march to war.

Does this bother you, Jason?

Doesn't this seem like A, antagonizing Putin and Russia?

between

what they're doing with NATO and this week and what they're also reporting in the New York Times.

I mean, I can't think of any

helpful reason to the U.S.

for these things to be going on.

Can you?

I mean,

we've seen a lot of

concerning things or escalations happening over the,

well, I guess over the past four years.

But I mean, the last few days has been wild when you look at everything all together.

When you have the,

you know, the head of NATO basically saying,

yeah, they're going to be in, Ukraine's going to be in NATO.

It's not a question of if, you know, but when.

Excuse me?

It's crazy.

You just right there to everyone, you just said, yeah, everything that, you know, we've been denying to Putin for the past, you know, and saying that, you know, this is why your premise for invasion of Ukraine was wrong.

Well, okay, so maybe you were right.

You just justified it to him and to all the people that support Putin.

You said, yeah, okay, he was right.

You have,

again, this is all happening within a matter of like 72 hours.

Then you have the president of France saying, yeah, there's

a high possibility that, yeah, NATO troops will be going into Ukraine.

I'm sorry.

People of Ukraine shouted out and said, oh, dear God, no, that will guarantee our loss.

Don't send French.

You look at that and then you look at.

Well, that's a good point.

Yeah, Yeah,

but that's a good point.

But you also have the spy chief over in Ukraine saying, yeah, well,

Putin probably didn't kill Navalny in the prison.

It was a blood clot.

That one, I can't understand.

How does that help?

That was actually a thing that started crystallizing everything for me.

You have a new United States leadership potentially coming in within the next few months.

You have a Republican Party in the United States that's not too keen on continually funding this forever war.

There's a little bit of doubt as far as how far this is going to go.

And for me, this is the rest of the world saying,

whether it's NATO, whether it's Macron, whether it's now the Ukrainian spy chief, look, this is just the way it is.

This is war.

We're not calling it World War III at the moment, but the battle lines have been drawn.

We don't need propaganda at this point.

I mean, this is just happening.

This is the new reality that we face right now.

We are at war with Russia.

More people are probably going to be at war with Russia.

And these are, this is this side against this side.

Live with it.

There is no defunding this at this point.

This is the reality.

So deal with it.

Imagine that that is a frightening future to contemplate how this plays out if that is just the new normal now.

Where does it stop?

So

let me ask you that when you when you look at this,

to me, it all seems antagonistic you know it see it seems like we can't necessarily get the funding uh from the united states the united states the people of the united states are not willing to do it so let's just keep poking putin until he responds and says screw you people is is that too infantile of a of reasoning No, I don't think so.

They see, when I say they, I mean like the foreign policy elite.

And let me preface this by saying i blame a lot of the old guard that were so successful during the cold war for where we are now because we are still following that same playbook uh you know think about like think about like talking heads like or intellectuals like zbignudu brzinski which i'll never be able to pronounce that name but i think that's close um he wrote a book right after the end of the cold war and i cannot remember the name of it at the moment but he basically said it's great you know the soviet union fell now nato and i you expect him to say would needs to redirect or, you know, like focus on, you know, the world needs to focus on other things.

No, he says NATO now needs to push ahead, needs to push forward.

And he labels all these different countries that NATO now needs to add under its wing.

And I remember reading this in college and I'm like, wait, well, why?

You won the war and the stated purpose of NATO now does not exist.

And the Russians said from the get-go, like, these are the things that will destroy this relationship.

You continue to expand eastward.

You do this.

You do that.

We did all of those things.

We are still doing all of those things.

And we promised not to do many of them, right?

I mean, we directly promised to the Russians that we would not do some of these things.

Again, I am not justifying what Russia has done here, but like there is

a connection, right?

A chain of events that has caused this

and has been,

has at least inflamed this to the point where this sort of action was in their minds.

You know, it's so ridiculous to me.

You have to justify what you just said with, I'm not condoning because that is obvious.

It is obvious you're not.

But to say that a few months ago was like, oh my gosh, Stu loves Putin.

He wants to move to Russia.

Acknowledging that other nations have, you know, interests.

Interests, right?

And you should not cross these lines because that's against their interests.

That's a common thing, diplomacy.

But there's also a promise that we made.

We took the nuclear missiles.

We got rid of them in Ukraine.

And we did that by, because Ukraine said, we are on the border with these crazy people.

We need our protection.

And we said without any real written agreement, don't worry, you give those things up and we'll have your back if it ever happens.

So you're caught between these two things if you want to be people of honor.

I think we should be people of honor, but that includes common sense.

You know, we shouldn't have been fooling around with NATO in the first place, with Ukraine.

That's what caused this.

I believe that.

Yeah.

And

we're still fooling around.

I mean, it goes beyond Ukraine.

I mean, we're, again, within that last, that 72-hour period, which was just nuts, Sweden.

uh jumps on board finally clears the hurdle with hungary which that also did not make sense that was another thing that kind of made a lot of this stuff kind of like was really eye-opening this week um hungary finally said okay fine You know, Sweden, you know, Turkey is finally saying fine.

Let's go ahead and have Sweden join this alliance.

There is clearly a mindset now in Eastern Europe that we have

gone beyond this point of no return.

That the things that we were fighting for before, that we said, okay, these are going to, these are going to like, you know, make Russia back down.

This is going to be something that's kind of a diplomat.

They've just thrown that out.

Like they don't care at this point.

There is now like, there are enemies.

There are, you know, this Russia, China, Iran, Iranian bloc, whoever else they can, you know, pull under their wing.

And then there's the West under this NATO, you know, alliance.

They're moving forward with that.

They, you know, are not even making the attempt to look like we're going to scale back, de-escalate.

Not even making the attempt.

I really don't think at this point, if we get a new administration in,

you know, you know, next year, will anything anything change

i i don't see i need about uh and i need about a one-minute answer from uh on you from both of these because we're running out of time i read a story today that uh israel has taken off the gloves against the um

iranian uh revolutionary guard and they're pummeling into uh pummeling them in syria and um

Israel is saying,

we're taking this.

We are not concerned about a widening war.

We are concerned with eliminating our enemy before they eliminate us.

At the same time, Biden says he hopes for a Gaza ceasefire by next week.

He says it's close, but we're not done yet.

Which one is true?

Well, I think that the Biden administration knows what Israel has to do here.

They're going to do everything in their power to

make it appear to that radical wing here in the United States that they're for de-escalation.

No one sees de-escalation in the Gaza trade, Israel and Iran.

No one sees that.

All right.

So let me take you one last place that I love your thoughts on.

We have

this guy who is insane.

He is with the Air Force.

He goes out in front of the Israeli embassy over the weekend.

He sets himself on fire and becomes a,

what, an Islamic martyr, maybe?

Cornell West comes out and says, let us never forget the extraordinary courage and commitment of Brother Aaron Bushnell, who died for truth and justice.

I pray for his precious loved ones.

Let us rededicate ourselves to genuine solidarity with Palestinians undergoing genocidal attacks in real time.

So we have people of note.

Cornell West is not a nobody.

People of note actually praising a suicide, a guy for ideology over

life, and he was in the Air Force.

How did this guy go undetected?

I mean, it doesn't surprise me at all in this day and age in this military.

This is the military that stood the entire force down to find all those crazy white extreme, you know, extremists.

I mean, the focus clearly is not on defense of the country.

It's not on, I mean,

it is ideological, ideological.

That is, I mean, where have you seen

ideology being

pushed into militaries?

You see it in crazy regimes, usually.

You see it in dictatorships.

They use the military as this ideological force.

And that is the scary thing about the current, you know, the state of the current

armed forces of the United States.

They are being used as an ideological tool.

People like Cornell West, that doesn't surprise me at all that he would say something like that because to them, ideology always trumps humanity.

Always.

And using people as tools, no issue whatsoever with that.

None.

Would this guy have been spotted most likely before?

Because you don't go from, hey, Bill, see you Monday to setting yourself on fire.

Oh, absolutely.

You just don't.

People had to know.

that he was at least ideologically

really bent this direction.

Would that have happened when you were in the service?

Oh, that person would have been found immediately.

Do you remember that one story of that one that was an officer graduate where he had like a picture of Che like underneath his hat and he showed that?

He was outed by his people immediately.

Immediately.

Now, if you're willing to set yourself on fire for a terrorist ideology, you know people saw that.

But if I'm a commander now,

how do you even stand up to that?

What do you even say?

You know it's going straight to Lloyd Austin's office.

What's he going to say?

He's the one that stood your military down.

I'm not saying anything.

Jeez.

Jason, as always, you didn't improve my mood much, but I appreciate sharing all of the information.

Thank you.

It's going to be interesting to see how all this works out, won't it, Stu?

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voice kind of just fading away slowly as the show went on.

Hopefully he'll be okay tomorrow.

Jason Buttrell asked him to stick around here as we're going into something that I know you've spent a lot of time thinking about, Jason, the situation in Israel.

And the way the media is handling it to me is fascinating.

I want to give you this tweet from Cornell West.

We discussed it briefly last hour, but this was his reaction to Aaron Bushnell, this military member who decided to light himself on fire to protest.

This is never a good idea.

People need to learn that lighting yourself on fire is just a terrible way of going about whatever your problem is.

But he said this, let us never forget the extraordinary courage and commitment of brother Aaron Bushnell, who died for truth and justice.

Exclamation point.

I pray for his precious loved ones.

Exclamation point.

Let us

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Hashtag Aaron Bushnell.

Hashtag free Palestine.

And you look at this, and there's a hundred ways you could react to this.

Cornell West is nuts.

He's been nuts for a long time.

By the way, he's going to be on your presidential ballot most likely as an independent in your state.

But

you start with like, I don't know,

the jumping to this,

you know, commitment and courage of doing something like this.

Now, I will say he was committed to the bit.

There's no doubt about it.

If you're lighting yourself on fire, you're committed.

I'll give you that.

But this is not something to praise.

Only in a society that has just de-emphasized the sanctity of life to the extent that we have here in this country, would lighting yourself on fire be something that you'd just sit back and say, oh, wow, what a wonderful thing to do.

We can get into the substance of the argument behind that.

But Jason, like when you look at this, you see, I think, a bunch of crazy people telling us to do a bunch of crazy things.

And

that's not a good foundation for a society.

No, not if you want it to continue.

No serious country in the world acts this way.

I mean, I'm sure there was crazy people like Cornell West and other countries across the world, but I don't think they're treated as seriously as they are in this country.

And I'm sure,

has anybody in the media condemned Cornell West for talking about this?

I don't think so.

If anything, you've seen an appreciation.

I mean, I think the only thing that Cornell West is doing wrong right now in the eyes of the media is getting on these ballots and potentially siphoning a few votes from Joe Biden.

Other than that, I think they approve of his actions

100%.

It's just amazing.

You were talking about the media before, and I was just reading, there was a new Gallup poll, and I think like distrust in the media was now, it was well over 50%.

So, I mean, you're talking about over, you know, what, over,

over 100,000 people, 150,000 people or whatever,

do not think the media represents their interests.

In fact, they think they're actually hostile to them.

I have a hilarious story actually with, I went to cover the opening of the American embassy in Israel.

I remember that.

Remember that?

And

it was kind of funny.

We were not on Media Row.

So they had like, we were right there at the border of Gaza.

And there was this Media Row where there was like CNN, you know, and the, you know, and all these other BBC, all these major players.

And then it was us, you know, from the Blaze trying to get included.

Right.

And finally, I was just like, I never name drop, but I was like, I went to the this soldier that was kind of like the assistant to the main media guy.

And I was like, hey,

I'm the writer and researcher for Glenn Beck.

And she looked at me and she's like,

hang on, just one second.

So she marches right over to media row and this guy is

giving these interviews.

And you could tell it's hostile.

You know, he's just like, you know, he's like, he's looking flustered.

He's pissed.

She stops him in the middle of an interview with one of these big outlets, whispers into his ear, and he goes, and you can't tell what's it's saying, but he mouths Glenn Beck.

And she like, and then she, she points over, and he's like, hey, come on over.

And so we like walk over.

This is the one place in the world where this tactic works, by the way.

Nowhere else.

Nowhere else, if you use it to try to get a table at a restaurant, I can assure you, you no longer, you either will not get the table or you will have spit in your food.

Anywhere in New York,

that's not working for you.

No, right.

So anyway, so we walk and he puts us right in front of Media Row.

So we're right in front of them.

Oh, they must have loved this.

And he's, oh, like, like, what is going on here?

And like, and our first question was, I was like, Lieutenant Colonel, can you please just tell us the context for why Israel is having to fire back and protect this border?

And he was like a wave of like relief over his face.

And he was like, finally.

And then he just proceeds to go on and talks about all these grenades that are lobbed over, a surprise attack at that point, all these things that happen.

And it's nothing of what you hear in the mainstream media.

They never talk about why Israel has to respond.

They just talk about the response and then they weave it into the whatever narrative that they want to do probably was given to them by Crono West and other similar people.

Yeah.

But just amazing.

You never get the actual truth from the mainstream media anymore.

I don't know when that shift happened, but it's insane.

Yeah, I don't know exactly when it happened.

I mean, it seems like there was definitely a

tipping point in 2015, 2016 when Donald Trump's running for president, right?

Like, I think that there is a situation where

they decided at some point,

and maybe it was even after his first election, honestly, where they decided it was no longer okay to try to cover the news and be liberal, but try to give the appearance that you were

doing some sort of normal journalism, right?

This idea, like the Hillary Clinton emails is a great example of this.

Like, they did cover that a little bit.

As a conservative, I wasn't happy with the way they covered it, right?

Like, I wasn't like, oh, wow, they're doing a great job unearthing all of this stuff on Hillary Clinton.

To me, it felt like they were ignoring a lot of the stuff that we did know.

However, the way they dealt with that was, hey, this Hillary Clinton email thing is going on.

Here's why you shouldn't care about it.

That was the way they covered that.

That is not how they covered the Hunter Biden laptop story.

They made a decision in that period to switch from, hey, this is what's going on and let me try to talk you out of caring about it into, that's not even going on.

You don't even know.

We're not even going to tell you about it.

We're just going to ignore it and act as if it was not even a thing.

They did that successfully, I think, in 2020 with the Hunter Biden situation.

And

they're just doubling and tripling down on this.

And I think their internal excuse is that Trump is so uniquely terrible that we have to do this.

I don't know if they actually believe that.

I'm sure the next president is going to get the same treatment.

If it's the next Republican nominee is going to get

the same treatment as Trump.

But I am concerned.

And I think that

it's it's funny because the Cornell Wests of the world have always been around, right?

They have been around for a very long time, you know, intellectual radicals that have really weigh out their opinions, and they've been on the fringes of our society for decades.

You saw this with CRT, where like these people who formed CRT, this isn't a new thing.

This has been around for a long time, but it was not permeating the mainstream culture.

And I think with the media, basically what we're having now is the entire entire

up and coming generation of journalists seem to be Cornell West.

Like the entire media is turning into Cornell West.

And that is not where we used to be.

We used to be in a situation where, yes, they were left-leaning, but they were totally different and understood that 50% of the country disagreed with them.

That's not where we are anymore.

Yeah.

And before I get to your point there, it was interesting right when Trump was elected president, I think it was the Washington Post hilariously like issued this statement about how they were rededicating you know their efforts to the truth remember that democracy dies in Dirk that was it that was yeah they're like oh now that there's a conservative in here and Obama's out we're rededicating

okay now you're gonna be critical I think that I think the Obama administration and I'm sure you know people could go way back beyond you know as far as when you know the media really started kind of engaging left-wing you know politics but there were some insane things going on during the Obama administration.

Remember they Obama was the one that established that global engagement center.

Was it Richard Stengel or whatever his name was

the head who in 2019, you're laughing at it about the bad?

No, it's funny because

there were so many of these guys and names in that Obama era.

And listening, Glenn covered all of them.

And I've done my best to forget about them.

But

you're right.

All these efforts existed.

We got to go back and look.

Because some just insane things were happening back then.

But that Richard guy, he in 2019 wrote an article.

I think it was in the Post.

I can't remember.

where he's basically saying, yeah, we need hate speech laws.

You know, there's some law, there's some speech that's too dangerous.

So he was advocating for restrictions on the First Amendment.

That's who Obama appointed as the head of this global engagement center.

But the entire point of that was to basically reach out under the guise of like ISIS or terrorism and look for speech that, you know, we can map and find out who the dangerous people are.

You'd have people like Ben Rhodes under the Obama administration, whose sole job was just to lie to the American people so that they could do whatever they wanted to to do to push policy.

And was so confident in that effort that he told me.

Arrogant.

He actually said we were manipulating journalists with our Iran deal coverage.

We went to them and we knew they didn't know anything.

They were too young.

All these, you know, these media institutions didn't have anybody smart on the job.

We would lie to them, tell them what we wanted them to say, and they would say it.

And then, and they were fine with it.

And then told that to the media.

So it was printed.

And I mean, that's just amazing to me.

They did not care because to your point, like the the radicals now are there i mean the media now i think is looking to the radicals and a lot of that began under the obama administration whoever the expert was at the time

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By the way, it's Stu in for Glenn.

Jason Buttrell joins me as well.

We're talking about the media and how it's going insane.

And there's so much to talk about when it comes to this clip with Taylor Lorenz, the journalist who is at the New York Times.

Is she at the Washington Post now, I think?

I can't remember.

She's been to several different places, and every time she leaves one, she says the last one was too conservative.

So, as you guys know, the New York Times is too conservative.

But she was interviewing, and she's had back and forth with this person,

the woman who runs the Libs of TikTok account on, obviously,

on Twitter mainly, is where I see it.

I don't know if she's on other platforms as well.

But they got into this discussion and did an interview at an outdoor eatery where to set the scene for you,

she is wearing a shirt with a picture of Taylor Lorenz crying from one of her previous interviews on the t-shirt during the interview.

And on the other side is Taylor Lorenz.

I mean, it's like, it's so like Livs of TikTok known for kind of like, you know, stirring it up on the internet.

You'd expect her to wear a shirt of Taylor Lorenz crying.

And on the other side is Taylor Lorenz as an absolute caricature of herself in an N95 mask outdoors trying to do this interview.

It is as comical as anything you've ever seen in your life.

But

just to give you the visuals here, but the audio is just as pleasing.

Listen.

But there is a context that it would be okay to give kids pictures like that of gay sex, anal sex, and

I guess sex pictures.

pictures in school?

I don't know.

I don't know.

Because you know who I would defer to on that?

Just because neither of us are sex educators, I would defer that question to a qualified professional, a sex educator, and say, hey, you're an expert.

You've treated tons, you know, you've educated tons of people.

You're a full-time sex educator.

You've really studied this.

What are the appropriate boundaries?

I don't think that myself as a journalist or a media personality, I don't think I'm the right one to make that decision.

And I guess I'm wondering why you're not.

So I have seen sex educators say that they want these books books in schools.

So then you're okay with it?

I think I would want to talk to the sex educator and rely on whatever the sex educators say.

I'm wondering why you feel like you're qualified to be a sex educator when you have no background in that.

I don't want to be a sex educator.

I just don't want to give kids porn in school.

That is an all-time classic.

What's fascinating about this, I mean, there's a hundred things that are fascinating about this.

And I love her approach there of saying, like, you know, she's there to try to fight the sex educator thing.

No, you know what?

Some educators do think this stuff should be in school.

So are you okay with it?

And again, her defensive reaction is exactly what you just spoke about, Jason, which is this automatic

surrender of your life and your

agency and your decision-making process to outside experts.

Like she says at one point, well, I would want to talk to these experts and see what they said.

Why would you need to talk to them?

You have no questions for them.

You have no intellectual curiosity to find out if what they're saying is true or not.

And

it's almost a defeatist way of living life.

You have just given up.

What is the purpose of you?

What is your purpose in life if all you're doing is looking around and trying to find what the expert says and then just doing that thing?

This is why no one trusts the media.

Like, anyone could be a journalist in this day and age.

She doesn't need to think for herself.

None of them need to think for themselves.

They are so used to being handed the propaganda that they're supposed to say that she couldn't even defend herself on this.

This is so basic.

By the way, that looked like an SNL skit.

It did not look like it.

It really did.

You're right.

Part of the reason why it's hilarious is because she's wearing this N95 mask.

And so think about what's the thought process there.

First of all, she's gone to the experts who have told her, I guess.

Now, first of all, that's not what experts say.

They don't even say that.

We can beat up on experts all day, but experts do not tell you to wear an N95 mask outdoors.

I mean, the New York Times itself said there has never been a case of the coronavirus that has been documented outdoors without masks

outside of a close conversation.

There's never been a case documented of it.

So, this is not even a close conversation.

They're four feet away from each other at a table.

But beyond that, what is she trying to do here?

She's trying to lower the risk of her getting COVID, right?

That's essentially what she's doing wearing this mask.

While at the same time, she is sitting four feet away from passing traffic.

She's outdoors.

Her back is to a road four feet away.

A car passes by.

She's worried about getting COVID as a 27-year-old or something, which gives her almost no risk.

And she's sitting there as a car is, a giant 5,000-pound vehicle passes four feet behind her.

She is much more likely to die by someone there veering into the cafe than she is from COVID-19.

Is she really scared of COVID-19 or is it just the flag?

Yeah.

You know,

there was another, there was a picture of, I think it was another Palestine protest or whatever.

And they were holding up all these banners and stuff.

And there was like 10 kids sitting in the front.

All of them had masks on.

I'm like, are they really?

And they're all probably like 18, 19, 20, whatever.

Are they real?

I don't think that they surely, they can't be still scared of the coronavirus.

Surely.

It's just that flag.

When did flags become so lame?

Right.

When there's something cooler.

Like if you're like a crazy, like, idiot, you know, you know, progressive nut, isn't there something cooler that you could like establish as your flag and not a mask?

Come on.

Right.

You'd think so.

Yeah.

Even the Guy Fawkes mask was cooler than this.

Right.

Just put that back on.

Yeah.

That's very true.

I will say, like, that is what it becomes.

It becomes almost like a gang tattoo.

Right.

Like, you're just like,

it's okay.

I'm a good person, everybody.

I'm wearing my N95 mask outdoors, which, by the way, is not even what experts say.

She says she's giving all of her decision-making over to experts, but that's not what they tell you.

There's no experts telling you to wear an N95 mask outside.

Neck tattoos.

That's our flag.

Neck tattoos.

Yeah, like parts of the Constitution on our neck.

Here's all that.

Yeah, that was tough.

There you go.

That's a much more bad

mask.

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By the way, we have a ⁇ we talked about Israel and Hamas a little bit earlier in the program.

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Also has a documentary coming up.

When does this thing come out?

Do we know?

I think it's the end of this month.

Okay.

All right.

Wait, it is the end of the month.

It's still a couple, two, three weeks out, something like that, but it's soon.

Okay, pretty soon.

And it's about the caravan right to the border here in the past few weeks.

You actually embedded yourself with these guys.

Yeah, we rode down with

the Take Our Border back convoy.

They started, I think, in Virginia, but we jumped on with them in Louisiana and just saw the convoy grow, grow, grow.

Got to know them, you know, actually asked them what they were doing, what they were all about, things that the media never does.

Went to a few of their rallies.

We also went down to Eagle Pass and checked out Shelby Park and the whole standoff between.

Let's just say we found out a lot of interesting things, especially on the border.

We found a lot of infuriating things and things that will absolutely surprise you, probably shock you.

And I was not expecting to get that, but we found that information out in kind of a funny way.

So yeah, you're in for a treat on this for sure.

This is all part of the series Blaze TV or blaze originals and this is going to be yeah i don't know monthly it's going to be a few of these uh every year big documentary projects that are you know independent investigations that you're not going to see anywhere else uh they're part of your blaze tv subscription blazetv.com slash glenn the code is glenn you can get 20 bucks off your subscription right now and as now would would you say how similar would you say your coverage was of the border

as to if let's say taylor the rens covered the same story would you guys have the same viewpoint on this how how similar are you to Taylor?

I mean, to answer that question, I would have to consult an expert, you know, because I'm just not sure if I'm qualified.

You know,

I understand.

I understand.

Along those lines.

This is from this clip of Taylor Lorenz and Libs of TikTok hanging out at a lunch and having a little bit of an interview.

This is all filmed.

And let me give you this clip one more time to kind of reset this because it is, there are multiple things in this interview that are central to everything that is wrong with the media right now.

Here's a clip.

But there is a context that it would be okay to give kids pictures like that of gay sex, anal sex, and

sex pictures in school.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Because you know who I would defer to on

because neither of us are sex educators.

I would defer that question to a qualified professional, a sex educator, and say, hey, you're an expert.

You've treated tons, you know, you've educated tons of people.

You're a full-time sex educator.

You've really studied this.

What are the appropriate boundaries?

I don't think that myself as a journalist or a media personality, I don't think I'm the right one to make that decision.

And I guess I'm wondering why you feel.

So

I have seen sex educators say that they want these books in schools.

So then you're okay with it?

I think I would want to talk to the sex educator and rely on whatever the sex educators say.

I'm wondering why you feel like you're qualified to be a sex educator when you have no background in that.

I don't want to be a sex educator.

I just don't want to give kids born in school.

This is a fantastic interaction.

and it just shows where we are as i mentioned previously taylor lorenz has basically like

signed off her responsibility for her life yeah right like she has taken like she's transferred ownership she's you know like we were talking about this with the wendy williams story a little bit earlier where you know and this is the britney spears was a famous this conservatorship idea and she's basically signed taylor lorenz has signed off a conservatorship of her own decision-making process here.

She can't think about this issue on her own, whether it would be appropriate for children to see porn in the classroom.

She so can't bring herself to say that that's a bad idea.

She has to assign it to experts.

And look,

experts, a lot of experts do say it's okay.

Does that make it okay for you?

Now, who is the biggest expert about your child?

Right?

It's you.

You're the parent.

It is literally your God-given and foundational

objective in life to make the right decisions for your child.

And while experts, of course, can give insight on those decisions, right?

That's we all look to medical experts for, you know, medical decisions, but we still make those decisions ourselves.

They give us input in those decisions.

They don't make those decisions for us.

And if you signed your life away, like Taylor Lorenz seemingly has in certain circumstances where it's convenient, like this, you know, I don't, what's the point of you being you?

What's the point of you being a human being?

Why aren't what makes you different than the main character of the Lego movie?

Right?

Where everything is awesome and you go to work every day and everybody tells you what to do and you live this life and you never make a decision out of the mold.

What is the point of you as an individual if you don't even put thought into a massive decision like showing porn to kids at school.

And this is the media in a nutshell.

There's no thought to it.

And to expand this one extra layer here, right before this interaction, and it was edited out because in the interaction, they show the actual book.

Again, this should set off alarm bells.

If we can't show it on national television to adults, why would it be appropriate for children?

But I let that to the side for a second.

In this interaction, they show,

they talk about these books.

And of course, Taylor Lorenz says that this stuff isn't even happening.

You don't know what you're talking about.

She takes the pictures out.

She shows her the pictures of these books.

And Taylor Lorenz has a pretty honest reaction to it.

She is as shocked as most people would be.

Oh my God.

She kind of catches herself in the middle of the reaction, but she is reacting in shock.

Like, wow, this is actual like cartoon pornography for kids.

And she eventually catches herself and gets to the expert thing.

But what's fascinating about that, maybe at its core,

is that these photos, and I say photos, it's actually a drawing, but it was a picture of the drawing.

I have seen pictures of this drawing probably a hundred times online because we talk about this issue often.

I wish I had seen it zero times.

I don't want to see it.

It is not something that is

a positive image to be seen by anybody, adult or child.

But I have seen it just because we talk about this issue.

People are posting about it all the time.

It has been in basic news coverage about this story.

Here is Taylor Lorenz, who has written about this numerous times, who has written about this woman, Libs of TikTok, numerous times, who has covered this issue and

shown how evil conservatives are online about it numerous times.

is sitting on an interview with this woman, Libs of TikTok, and has never before seen these images.

How is it possible as a journalist to go through months and months and months of coverage of this topic and have not even bothered to check to see what is in these books?

She has not made

motion one to try to understand the argument of the other side, which is overwhelmingly convincing when you see the actual pictures.

It's just a total destruction of what journalism was, Jason.

Oh, I mean,

take it beyond journalism.

I mean, this is an entire generation of people that have grown up and they've been taught in universities, this is the way it is.

The universities no longer teach them how to think.

They teach them what to think.

And that's this entire generation, which I kind of think we should take advantage of being from Gen Xers.

I would love to draw a bunch of like contracts where they basically sign over everything to me because they're not going to read it.

Right.

They're not going to do their own homework on it.

They're just going to sign it.

Yeah, we just have to bring an expert along and say, this expert says you should sign it.

Yeah, yeah, he's the expert.

I love in that clip, she keeps on saying

that was like her big thing to turn it back around on the lips of TikTok chick was like, oh, I just want to know why you think you're an education expert.

I'm like.

That's your big thing?

Right.

Like that's she's not trying to be an education expert.

Yes, it was just very obviously she just doesn't want porn to be shown to kids.

If you can't come to that conclusion on your own without someone standing over, what else can you be convinced of?

Right.

And this, I hate to say it, has led to every genocidal tragedy in our world's history.

Yeah.

It's always a bunch of experts saying

that that group of people is inferior.

It's always that.

There are always intellectual elites at the top of the chain that say those people are bad.

It's okay to kill them.

And like,

it is obviously what she's doing here is not equivalent to that, but the mindset is similar.

When you sign away your personal agency and act as if you cannot determine what is right and what is wrong, when you can't do it, you have to give up that right to somebody else, somebody far away, somebody in a bureaucracy, somebody who can make those decisions because they're special, they can do it.

Then they've decided that, look, black people shouldn't be able to have the same water fountains.

I guess that's what we should go with.

Well, that's not an okay thing.

That's not an okay way.

You don't, you know, you don't get to go in front of the court and say, well, I was just taking orders.

That's not how that works.

You

morally

have

an obligation

to put your own mind into the process.

You can't just assign all decision making to someone else because you think it's going to get you out of making the decision.

And that's convenient.

It's a nice way to try to win an argument at a cafe where you're four feet away from being hit by an SUV, but

it is not a way to make a decision for yourself.

And it's certainly no way to own your own freaking life.

Yeah.

You don't own your life if you think like her.

And you can see this is why she's constantly a victim of everything, right?

Like that's Taylor Lorenz in a nutshell.

She's a victim of the internet.

She can't just sign off of it.

No, no, just like everybody else.

She can't do that.

She's a victim of every bad comment.

She's crying all the time.

She's constantly a victim of all of her surroundings because she has no control over it.

She's assigned control of her life to everyone around her who say they're experts.

You remember that there was a push from the media.

It was a few years ago.

It might have been under Trump, I can't remember, but the media collectively, almost like they were handed this, you know, talking point where their big boogeyman was the words, do your own homework.

You remember that?

They were writing about it.

They were talking about it on Cambne News.

Like, well, you know, do your own homework is actually like, shut up.

Yeah, that was very, you know, it was very central to an attack on Glenn.

I mean, because Glenn would say that all the time as a way of saying, like, hey, like, don't just believe me.

You shouldn't.

You should go and look this stuff up and understand it for yourself.

It should be something that is praised, frankly.

And you're right.

It was became a boogeyman for a while.

I mean, but if that's what your entire belief system is based off of, you know, which is complete and totally lazy.

You know, I guess it's good if you're really, really lazy because you essentially don't have to do a thing.

Just be like, what do I say?

What do I do?

But if your entire system system is based around that, of course you're going to defend it.

But I mean, you're exactly right.

That is scary for a society moving forward because if you fall in line with that, you can be told anything.

You can be told to do anything, give up anything.

And what do you do?

How do you push back when you've been believing experts every step of the way?

And I don't mean to vilify expertise.

It's important.

But like, you can't just disassociate yourself from your own life.

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You know, as we're finishing up this hour and we've been talking about how the media is basically all turning into Cornell West, Taylor Lorenz is a great example.

There's another great example of Joy Reed on MSNBC.

We don't have time to get to it today.

I'm going to hit it on Studos America tonight, though, because it's important.

It's important to see the drift because you're always going to have somebody who's crazy.

The question is, how much authority and credibility are they given by society?

There's always been crazy people and there always will be crazy people.

How do we deal with that?

And how do we deal with the media that has gone awry?

There's an interesting story from the FBI Twitter account.

They've tweeted a website explaining how they're combating organized retail theft.

Now, we've been talking about this as a massive problem for a long time.

It's destroying our cities.

I mean, it's destroying them.

And, you know, these downtowns are completely cleaned out of businesses now.

People are shutting down vital businesses for local residents, you know, Walgreens and CBS, just shutting down all over the place.

Have you seen the, like, they come in in these like crazed waves?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, my wife was in a makeup store locally here in Texas, and they, you know, these three women came in and with giant plastic garbage bags and filled

garbage bags with makeup.

My daughter was there in the store with her, filled it up and just walked right out.

And no one did anything.

Here?

In Texas.

Wow.

No one did anything.

And this is, of course, sending

a clear message of incentive to people who want to do this.

Well, the FBI wants to make sure that you know they're on the case here.

Okay.

And they've tweeted an image explaining how they're detailing how they're going to fight the retail theft program here.

And apparently they think Paris Hilton is the one doing it

because the picture is like two hot mid-20-year-old white women who are dressed in like multi-thousand dollar outfits.

I don't think those are that's not the typical

profile.

I'm sure, you know, women who look like that.

I'd be on the case, too.

I'd go look for them as well.

Jason is on the case.

Now, I'm warning thee, whoever's in a stock photo, make sure you close your blinds tonight because Jason is on the case.

I'm coming.

But I mean, it just, like, can we at least be, you you know, I don't know, realistic and address the real issues here?

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