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A presidential historian has now revealed that Jill Biden is the reason that Joe Biden is running.

So now they're taking on Dr.

Jill.

Hmm.

Also,

Nate Silver said, yeah, he's not going to win.

If he's the guy, he's just not going to win.

Media freaking out just a little bit, and they should be.

By the way, New York should be freaking out.

There's more on the news of the fallout of that Trump verdict and

penalty.

It's going to be over $400 million once it's all said and done, unless he can get that reversed.

But it's going to cost the state of New York much, much more than that.

Oh, also,

Joe Biden was ranked by historians, presidential historians, and Joe Biden is 15th.

Out of all 48, or no, 46.

14th, Glenn.

Oh, I'm sorry, 14th.

You should know this because 15th is Woodrow Wilson.

Oh, Woodrow Wilson.

Yes.

Where's Ronald Reagan?

Ronald Reagan is 16th.

16.

16th.

Come on.

Yeah.

This is ridiculous.

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Presidential historian

said one of the main driving forces behind President Joe Biden's decision to run for re-election was his lovely wife, Dr.

Jill.

He noted that both former presidents Harry Truman and Lyndon B.

Johnson decided to leave office because their wives were like, I've had enough of all of this.

If you look at Lyndon Johnson, it wasn't because of Vietnam.

It wasn't because of anything else.

He wasn't really healthy, high blood pressure and everything else.

And Ladybird was like, you're going back to Texas.

And that's why he didn't run for a second term.

It wasn't because he completely destroyed our future economic prospects by all of his programming.

No, no, no.

He wasn't because of the constant N-words.

That wasn't it.

No, okay.

I just want to make sure I understand with Lyndon Johnson why he didn't run.

Yeah, no, it wasn't that.

And with Truman, he could have run.

But

his wife, Bess, was like,

we got to get out of here.

And what's amazing is the two of them got into their old car and drove back to independence.

Drove back themselves.

He did.

What a difference there was.

And he had never been on the highway system before.

The highways were just starting.

And he was like, I got to try out some of these highways.

And so he did.

Look at the way our presidents live in luxury now for the rest of their lives.

So

the presidential historian said

that she

doesn't want to go because she has just started to teach in Virginia Community College.

And

that's her home.

And she likes it.

And she said she's been taking all of the slings and arrows of the last year's attacks,

and she's been taking it on the chin, and she's put up with so much.

This historian actually said that

at the last minute, just when you get all the delegates, you're going to say, I'm going to open it up to a bunch of people.

No,

she wants, get this, she wants to stay.

She wants some sense of revenge.

Revenge on who?

And isn't revenge, aren't we,

isn't everybody saying to Donald Trump, he'll just be about revenge?

What the hell is going on here?

And this, I mean, to me, this shows elder abuse.

It shows they don't care.

None of them care about the husband, the father, the grandfather.

None of them care.

It's just about them.

It's crazy.

It's absolutely crazy.

And he's going to lose, which just makes me think,

Michelle Obama.

No, you're not taking my thousand dollars.

Yeah, I mean, you mentioned Nate Silver's analysis of this, which is pretty thorough.

And he, again, is not like some Trump supporter.

He's a guy who wants the Democrats to run a good candidate.

He said, if you asked me a year ago, I would have told you Joe Biden was a reasonably clear favorite in the event of a rematch against Donald Trump.

But Biden's situation has become considerably worse.

If he were 10 years younger, he still might be a 65-35 favorite.

But in this campaign, he is substantially encumbered by his age.

Personally, I crossed the Rubicon in November concluding that Biden should stand down if he wasn't able to run a normal re-election campaign, meaning like little things like the Super Bowl interview.

It's remarkable he didn't do that.

I know remarkable.

Like it's just an incredible opportunity.

It would be easy.

It's not like he would probably be able to pick the person who interviewed him, right?

Like it would be

as easy as it can be, and he refused to do it in front of the largest audience in the world.

It's like the, you know, the Macy's Day Parade interview they always do with the president.

What are you going to have to eat today?

You know, it's that kind of stuff.

I mean, you'd expect it to be slightly tougher than that, but not much, not for the media, especially when they want him desperately to win, right?

Like if you're cheering on a particular candidate, you're likely to get a favorable interview.

And they still wouldn't go with it.

And Nate Silver at the end of this analysis, which is worth reading, but at the end, he just asks for the challenge.

Did you read the challenge part of this article at the end?

No.

He says, a simple challenge to the White House.

Could I or other critics and 75% of Americans be wrong about this age issue?

Sure, I'm wrong about a lot of things.

But if we're wrong about this, it ought to be easy to prove it.

Here's what I propose.

Over the course of the next several weeks, Biden should do four lengthy sit-down interviews with non-friendly sources.

Non-friendly doesn't mean hostile.

Nonpartisan reporters with a track record of asking tough questions would work great.

A complete recording of the interviews should be made public.

The interviews ought to include a mix of different media.

For instance, Biden could pick these four.

One, a lengthy sit-down interview with the Washington Bureaus of the New York Times or Washington Post.

Like,

even like Donald Trump was doing those interviews with Maggie Haberman, right?

Yes.

Two, an interview with 60 minutes, making up for the interview Biden ought to have given to CBS during the Super Bowl.

Okay.

Three, an interview with some sort of center-right print or digital outlet.

This could be, say, the Wall Street Journal op-ed page or even a team of writers at the Dispatch.

Four, wildcard.

Take your pick.

Bonus points for Fox News, though I doubt Biden would do it.

Go on Ezra Klein's podcast.

Go on Rogan,

you know, et cetera.

Those are four

super basic things that a person running for president of the United States should be able to do without thinking about it, right?

Yes.

These are not big asks by Nate Silver.

These are things that just show this man has the competence level to handle basic questioning.

With the exception of Rogan.

Right, which would be a little bit would be out there, but

that was Arsinio O'Hall.

I mean, that's what Clinton broke the barrier.

He said, I'm not just going to sit with the big news people.

I'm going to sit with people that people actually listen to, watch, or admire.

Right.

So Clinton did that.

And I think pretty much every president has done that.

I mean, Donald Trump went on to the tonight show and had him mess up his hair.

Right.

And that was more of a, you know, a fun, like, and Rogan goes back and forth, right?

He has some serious stuff.

He has some funny stuff.

Or if you want to just go to someone independent, like a Barry Weiss or, you know, Michael Schellenberger or somebody who would just be independent, right?

Like, ask some questions that maybe were out of the mainstream that he wasn't getting from everybody else.

Like, I think that those are basic things.

Anyone running for president should be able to do those things without questions.

I would do an interview, a straight interview with him, and I would only ask questions about his success or failure.

I wouldn't slant it.

I wouldn't play gotcha.

Nothing.

Tell me about binomics and why it's working.

And I would go down into the weeds.

Yeah.

And show why it's

why it's not working.

Let him answer for it.

And he can't, he wouldn't be able to go.

There's no way he could do 45 minutes with me.

There's no way.

Oh, God.

And me saying with both my arms tied behind my back, not trying to do gotcha or anything, he could not handle a 45-minute interview with me, a recovering alcoholic DJ.

Come on.

You're right.

Come on.

He wouldn't even consider it.

No.

Remember, Barack Obama did one of those Super Bowl interviews with Bill O'Reilly.

Yeah, I know.

Like, this is not a foreign concept.

Everybody who runs for president is expected to be able to answer some tough questions.

This guy has done almost none of them.

Did you see the, and I think it's in this article,

where they talk about, here we go.

Biden has done fewer interviews than any recent president.

It's not close.

By this point in their presidencies, Barack Obama had given more than 400 interviews, and Trump had given more than 300.

Biden has given fewer than 100.

And a bunch of them are softball interviews on Conan O'Brien's podcast or Jay Shetty's Mindfulness podcast.

He's not even

doing

this job.

Is anyone noticing this?

The man is not even doing the job.

I love it.

I love it when Stu Stu expresses

what I express about two hours earlier when I'm reading the news.

And that is...

We all do that now.

It's like, I put, I can't, I can't,

it's incredible.

Like, I just can't believe we're in this situation where we have someone who, again, the number in this poll was 75%.

We've seen it as high as 86%

are saying that he's too old to just jump.

We all look at this and understand what's happening.

And we're like, let's, it's like, hey, we're driving 85.

Is that a big stone wall in the middle of the highway?

Should we accelerate?

What should we do?

Should we get off this exit?

There's a McDonald's right here at

the highway pass.

We could just go through, get a couple burgers, or we could just gun it at the stone wall that is just somehow in the middle of the highway.

You know what?

I think maybe we could get him to accept this.

Coffee in cars with comedians and the current president, but he has to drive to the coffee shop.

No, you're going to kill somebody.

You can't put that man on the road.

Yeah, I mean, so we have a virtual Jerry in the car.

Right.

We don't want to kill Jerry Seidfeld.

No.

But no one would give this man the keys to their car.

If he came over to your house and he said, you know what, I'm driving home.

I'm just going to drive home.

In his car,

we would all all say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're not.

No, no, you're not.

We'd act like he was drunk.

We would act the same way as if he came over and had five or six cocktails in an hour.

We would act like we act with our grandparents.

Okay, that's what we would do.

We would act the same way we act with our grandparents when they hit that point.

No, grandpa, you can't drive.

And everybody in America on all sides, this is not political, on all sides, we know that.

We know it.

But we're giving him not the keys to our car.

We're giving him the keys to the nuclear briefcase.

Oh, my God.

Okay.

And asking him to micromanage a war between Russia and Ukraine.

Like, that couldn't spiral out of control and get us involved.

But anyway, there's no way.

The only thing that could be worse is like, you know, something between, I don't know, Iran and Israel.

Or China and us.

I I mean, look at what's happening.

Seriously.

The guy, we would never let him drive a car.

Never.

The only thing that saves fellow drivers is that his Corvette is so packed with boxes of documents, he can't get into it to drive it.

Here's what I would, here's what, here's all my interview would be.

I'm not going to ask him about any more visitors.

No, no, no.

No, no, no.

Nope.

I'm going to sit him in a driver-simulated car.

You know, those cars that look just like you're in it and you can feel it moving.

You can feel it moving.

I'm going to have him do a couple couple of laps

in that.

And let's see how competent he is.

If he can't drive a computer-simulated car, and I would use a real car, but as Stu said, he'd probably kill people.

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His first interview since coming back from Russia and all the controversies.

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Oh, which, I mean, they've had a history.

I would like to see him respond.

Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's, you know, that's one of the things I think is interesting about Tucker is when he does these interviews, he's happy to get the tough questions.

Oh, yeah.

He really, like, I've seen him in those.

We've seen him multiple times in these situations, and he's like, he does not shy away.

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Well,

the presidential greatness ratings and rankings are finally in.

Yes, yes, the

president and executive politics section of the American Political Science Association,

which is the foremost organization of social science experts in presidential politics, as well as super, super smart scholars who are much more smart than you are, dummy.

They published a peer-reviewed academic research in key-related scholarly journals and academic presses, and 525 respondents were invited to participate.

Here we have the best presidents ranked in order.

525 were asked.

I think 154.

154 usable responses were received.

So, in other words, there were some that were like,

they used all those.

All right.

So, number one, Abraham Lincoln.

Don't think we can argue with that.

He's in the top five.

Yeah, top five.

I think I don't know if I put him one, but let me put it.

Who would you put as one?

Probably Washington.

I would too.

But I mean, that's not a knock on Lincoln.

No.

No.

Washington was the one that demonstrated how to use power, how to get rid of power,

how to go home.

You know, the two terms thing is all because of him.

I mean, he's, he is, but he's a reluctant president.

Just like Michelle Obama.

Okay, so they, so they have to still.

They still have, number one is Lincoln.

Number two

is Franklin Roosevelt.

Oh, Covon.

Stop it.

Completely.

FDR is one of the absolute worst.

He's bottom five.

Bottom five for sure.

Well, if you'll notice the pattern here as we go on, the pattern is the scholars seem to love those who they can't get past.

You can't get past Lincoln.

You can't get past Washington.

You can't throw them into the dustbin or you'll look like you're completely.

They want to.

You know that.

They want to.

They want to.

And so if you look at the pattern of everybody that doesn't really make sense, it's because they fundamentally changed

our systems.

FDR fundamentally changed.

We were this close to a dictatorship.

Mussolini said he's cut from our cloth.

Hitler said he's cut from our cloth.

He was going for this great state.

So FDR.

Then number three is Washington.

Under FDR,

I mean, that's insanity.

That's insanity.

By the way, FDR, huge racist, huge racist.

Did not invite,

what's his name?

The runner, Jesse Owens.

Didn't invite him.

Only medal winner.

Well, not invite.

The biggest and most important medal of that.

Wasn't invited.

Let's see.

So Washington, then Theodore Roosevelt, another progressive.

Come on.

Come on.

Geez.

Theodore Roosevelt does not even belong anywhere close to the top of this list.

I mean, he was, you know, you've mentioned this a million times.

Obviously, I mean, the man started the Progressive Party.

Of course, they love him.

But still, like,

you could say he did incredible things in his life.

Oh, yeah.

Like, as a person?

Like, yeah.

But like.

What did he do?

What did he do as president?

What is he most famous for for doing as president?

I mean, he was, he, he, well, he really like

continued what Wilson was doing, who's coming up soon in the countdown, but continued that move in a way to

make progressivism the

homespun

philosophy.

As a president,

he's responsible for the national parks.

He's responsible for that.

Why is that scene as some big accomplishment?

Because

we fenced off a bunch of grass.

Remember the Ken Burns documentary?

The slogan for that documentary was America's greatest accomplishment.

What are you talking about?

The guy put up a bunch of,

what, fences around

grass where animals can stay?

Well, there's gates, too, so that you can pay to get in.

Oh, wow.

What a thing.

What a thing.

I mean, how many medical innovations have we created?

We've saved the world.

How many times?

They're like, oh, gosh, when they put those park benches out there, that was really a good thing that America did.

Hey, look, picnic tables.

But again, look at the two.

You've got Lincoln and Washington.

We understand.

Okay.

Roosevelt and Roosevelt, they're both progressives.

They're both progressives.

They're all about state power.

Yes.

Then Jefferson, another one you got to go, okay, well, yeah.

He wrote the Declaration of Independence.

I think that's kind of a big deal.

Then Truman.

But again, we should also point out all these people we're saying, oh, well, you know, they got to throw them in, are also the people that I guarantee some of these historians, if you looked at their Twitter feeds,

would be advocating for the tearing down of their statues.

Oh, for sure.

Like, I guarantee in 2020, go back and look at their George Floyd feeds at the time as they were encouraging Washington and Jefferson.

And Washington and Jefferson and statues to come down.

And Lincoln's maybe the hardest argument to make on that one.

Still, they wanted to bring it down in Washington, D.C.

They wanted to bring his statues down.

Harry Truman's a surprise, too, since he dropped the bomb on Japan.

Not only that, but he's the guy who said yes to Israel.

Yeah.

Right.

So, I mean, I'm shocked at him.

That's surprised.

Then number seven, Obama.

Yeah, geez.

Come on.

That's incredible.

Nine places since last time.

Just stupid.

You know, right?

You know what?

Assassinine.

Michelle Obama for president.

No, no, don't you

stop trying to take my money.

Losing $1,000.

Starting to think about just, I just want to push.

That's all I want is a push.

Like, we need

Gavin Newsom or something to be the nominee, so I at least don't have to pay $1,000.

Then Eisenhower.

Now, Eisenhower oversaw the building of the industrial military complex.

Yeah, but he bashed it at the end.

He did.

No.

He said, we just built it.

You're going to have to deal with this.

I just put this thing together for you that you're going to have to deal with for the rest of America's existence.

Look out for it because it's really powerful and bad.

So look what we have.

We have Obama built giant government, Eisenhower, giant government.

Then then number nine, L.B.

Johnson.

That might be the biggest abomination of

the market.

Are you kidding me?

I didn't see him at number nine.

Number nine.

Number nine.

A top 10 president.

He is legitimately within the conversation for the worst president of all time.

No question.

It's in the conversation.

Now, you might say Woodrow Wilson, and we will, I can, I probably am going to lean that way.

But if you want to come up with, if you're coming up with, this is what I need to do.

We need to do like, we should get all the Blaze people to come in to pay us the top five worst presidents of all time.

Because LBJ, to me, is on that list.

If he's not number one worst of all time, he's in the top two or three.

It's Wilson.

I'm not going to rank them, except Wilson's in number one in all of them.

Of course.

It's Wilson,

Obama, LBJ,

Biden.

Biden.

I'd put Biden.

Biden might be number one or number two now.

For sure.

It is Jackson, Andrew Jackson.

I put Carter in the conversation.

Carter, but Carter is almost like a hapless dupe compared to these guys.

It's still like

the Department of Education.

So he built the great state.

Look at everyone they like

wanted a dictatorship.

All of them.

They didn't call it that, but that's what they wanted.

They built this deep state.

Then Kennedy is at number 10.

He's up four, which I find interesting because Kennedy is probably the only one that wouldn't be allowed in the Democratic Party now.

All the ones we just mentioned, they'd still love and they'd bring them in.

Kennedy, no way.

Kennedy wanted to break up the military-industrial complex.

Kennedy cut taxes like nobody's business.

I mean, he was practically Ronald Reagan in comparison.

Then James Madison comes in after Truman, Eisenhower, Obama, John She.

Come on, come on.

Then James Madison.

Okay, yeah, the guy who wrote the U.S.

Constitution.

Let's put him

11th.

11th.

Behind a guy who created a bunch of programs that are completely bankrupting us.

Right.

Like, we are all aware as to why we're going to soon be spending a trillion dollars a year in just interest.

But like LBJ, we're like, oh, yeah.

You know, the good thing about it, the redeeming quality, he was an incredible racist.

And he was a drunk driver.

Let's put him up number nine.

Gosh, number nine.

Then, after Madison, then comes Bill Clinton.

Then comes John Adams.

Then comes Biden.

So we have

accused rapist followed by.

And Biden at 14 is...

Look,

I don't know.

So well.

The Barack Obama thing is so expected.

It didn't surprise me at all.

You do have to say there is,

at this point with historians, there is

you know, kind of a magic around him because he was America's second black president.

Right.

And

ahead of the first black president now.

That's weird.

But like, you know, you kind of understand the recency bias thing in these things is always big, right?

Like Biden being there is not all that shocking because of its recency bias.

Obama, I am expecting, and, you know, the end of this, of course, everyone probably knows by now, is Trump in last, which is also part of the recency bias, right?

Like once the next president gets in that's a Republican, they're all going to say, oh, well, that he's even worse than Trump.

Like, we all know that's going to happen on these lists.

But it's like

the Obama thing, okay, first black president, like they got their Obama care.

There's things that you know they're going to like.

What on earth argument is there for Joe Biden with a 37% approval rating to be the 14th greatest president of all time?

You're not going to.

Absurd.

The rest of the list is not going to improve your mood.

By the way, we should talk, you know, tomorrow, I'm going to have a poll ready with all the presidents, and

you just rank them.

Okay.

If you don't know who they are, you know, because like Polk, I don't know.

What did Polk do?

I don't know.

Mexican-American War.

Okay, so he's bad.

By the way, it's also Tuesday.

This would be James K.

Polk Tuesdays.

Right.

Just points it out that for historians,

Blaise might not recommend.

Hayes?

Rutherford B.

Hayes.

What did he do?

What are you all about?

You guys into Chester A.

Arthur or no?

Chester A.

Arthur.

Yeah, I mean, there's some that we would just, we'll cut the list down.

Okay.

You're going to just eliminate Chester A.

Arthur?

No, I'll leave them all in there, but you don't have to vote for them.

Don't do what you do when you're voting for judges.

Like, I don't know.

Guys, are you a Republican or a Democrat?

Whatever.

Let's do five best, five worst.

Right?

Like, that's all you really need, right?

Five best worst.

I'd like to see top 10.

Top 10, bottom 10.

Okay.

Okay, we'll do that.

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this crazy, absolutely crazy poll

where

Joe Biden is in the middle of the pack of the greatest presidents ever.

I mean, this, you know, you can't do anything because you ask people for the greatest president of all time now on conservatives, and I bet some would say that it's Donald Trump.

Right, which is, I mean, first of all, he's a one-term president so far.

Right.

He did a lot in one term.

He exposed a lot in one term.

He recognized the state of Israel and the capital being Jerusalem.

That was very good.

His Israel stuff, he does not get enough credit for.

Yeah, his Middle East policy, he doesn't get enough

credit for.

His oil policies, he doesn't get enough credit for.

But again, like there's recency bias on both sides, right?

Like we're probably also going to say that Biden and Obama are the worst presidents of all time, which again, they're on the running.

Well, it depends on what you're doing.

I mean, what is it that you are trying to go?

If you're saying, what makes the best president?

A

constitutional president that lives within his means?

Adams doesn't do well on that.

I mean, Adams was the first to do, you know, the censoring of the press and putting political foes.

you know, and trying to silence them with the sedition act.

Yeah.

But I mean, like, if you look at like

Barack Obama, for example, Obamacare, you would say maybe you want to say the most central part of his presidency, if you want to point to one thing.

And that was, it's really, really bad, but there's no way to argue it's worse than what LBJ did.

I mean, it's the great society is,

I mean, like, we are.

It's like he just added on a little bit of extra seasoning to the terrible recipe when you compare Biden to LBJ.

LBJ's policies are the worst.

And it happened because you had an assassination and you were at the end of the civil rights movement

and it was which, by the way, he we should also note was one of the main opponents of no, he stopped the Republicans doing it from in 1959.

But how, I mean, like, how does a guy, after you're tearing down statues of George Washington, how do you put LBJ in the top 10 as a guy who stopped that entire being?

Because race isn't as important to them as big government.

They just want big, oppressive, controlling government.

And so all this stuff about race is garbage.

The guy was using the N-word till the day he died.

He was an absolute racist.

The great society.

What were the effects?

Oh, I don't know.

Destroy the black American family.

So it just depends.

What are we judging this on?

If you are a scholar, you're probably saying which one has moved us closer to utopia with a controlling system.

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Stephen, we were just talking about the best and worst presidents.

And

forget about Biden and Trump.

Forget about those.

Who's on your top five best presidents?

Mine?

Yeah.

Okay.

George Washington, of course, our greatest president, greatest American.

I'm going to have to go with

James Madison.

I'm going to have to go with Reagan.

And I'm going to have to go with Calvin Coolidge, our most underrated president.

Yes, yes.

And Donald J.

Trump.

And Donald J.

Trump.

I told you you couldn't use him, but you went ahead and did it anyway.

Okay, right.

Okay, then hold on.

Then I'm going to go with

I'm going to have to go with Harding,

who died in office, but

he's ranked by the liberals as one of the worst presidents, but of course, the liberals are

crazy.

But I like him.

Now, I'm going to say this.

The thing that's most amazing about that poll, because we just wrote something in our hotline this morning about this, that

this is almost hilarious, that they rank Joe Biden, Barack Obama, and Bill Clinton as greater presidents than Ronald Reagan's.

I know.

Incredible.

The man who won the Cold War, who revived the American economy, rebuilt America.

I mean,

as I said, you know, this

says much more about American scholars and university professors than it does about who's a good president.

But if you look at their list, it really is the ones they favor the most are the ones who made the most advances for an end to constitutional

balance.

Of course.

Yeah.

So, you know, for example, I would say, I think you and I, we've talked about this over the years, Glenn.

I think you and I agree that our worst president was Woodrow Wilson,

who gave us the quote progressive movement,

put us into World War I.

I don't believe we should have ever been in World War I.

Me neither.

And so I think Wilson is one of the worst.

And, you know, FDR is one of the most overrated as well.

But he was a racist and

not a great guy.

I think he was okay in World War II.

He gave people hope with his speeches, et cetera, et cetera.

But he created this giant state.

And he also welcomed all the communists into

our country,

in our government.

Yep, he did.

we wouldn't have

$2 trillion deficits today if it were not for FDR.

So

your worst, the worst.

Give me the top five worst.

Well, Wilson, obviously.

I think

I don't know the 19th century presidents that well.

So I can't say, I mean, Buchanan was awful, horrible president.

I think Jimmy Carter has to be one of the worst.

And LBJ.

Did you say,

well, LBJ was, yeah, pretty bad president.

I would say, you know, you said I couldn't say Biden, right?

But you're going to anyway.

I think Biden really is a truly horrible president in every way.

In every way.

Much worse.

You know, I didn't think we could get, he could be worse than Obama, but he has been.

Yeah.

Well, he's, I mean, I think he's doing all the things that Obama wanted to do and not get credit for.

It's the third term.

And now they want Obama fourth term

with bringing in Michelle.

I have a thousand-dollar bet riding on this with Stu.

He says, no way.

I say, that's the plan.

Yeah, well, great minds think alike.

Yeah.

By the way, I pray that, you know, when I say my prayers at night, you know, I say, please keep Joe Biden healthy.

Please, please, please.

No stroke, no nothing.

We want to run against Joe Biden.

All right, let's talk a little bit about because

the left is all talking about how wonderful this is a this economy is.

And I've been saying recently it's because, well, if you look at what the upper crust is happening to them, they're not affected as much by any stretch of the imagination by

inflation.

But especially if you're a giant corporation or you're in with the cool kids, you're making money hand over fist.

But you say the stock market is not actually doing as well as everybody thinks.

Yeah, so if you look, one of the first rules of investing is you have to take a look at your after-inflation rate of return on your money, not your before inflation rate of return.

So,

you know, how much can you buy with the money?

you know, that you're making.

And so we've had inflation is up 20%

since Biden came into office in his first three years.

That's a dismal, dismal record.

It's Jimmy Carter levels of inflation.

And so the stock market is up, you know, under that period by about 28%, but 20% of that 28%, I mean, you know, so two-thirds of that is just due to the higher prices.

So when you adjust it for inflation,

the stock market is up about 8 or 9% under Biden in real terms.

You know what the number was, Len, for Donald Trump?

20.

Guessing.

32.

32.

32.

Holy cow.

So, you know, so

about three to four times higher rate of returns.

Now, look, the market's doing well this year.

I mean, there's no doubt about that.

How?

There was a funny article in the Wall Street Journal yesterday, or this morning, I guess it was, saying, you know, gee, the economy is saying exactly what you were just kind of spoofing.

You know, economy is doing so well.

Why are people so unhappy?

Right.

Well, because this is the most important number.

In fact, I I saw President Trump last week, and I showed him this chart that really tells the whole story.

So under Donald Trump, one of the things we were proud of was that the median income in the United States for a family, the median means is, you know, people are exactly in the middle.

They saw a $6,000 increase in the real incomes, which is big.

That's a big number over, you know, four years.

You know what the number is under Biden so far?

No.

Negative 2,000.

Wow.

Wait, wait, negative what?

Negative 2,000.

So what I'm saying is, and this is something nobody in the media seems to get, there's a reason Americans are unhappy because they're poorer today than when Biden came into office, period.

Everybody knows that.

Yes.

Everybody knows that.

So when you look at all of this, I mean, I would think that this would be a real, in any other time in my life, this would be an open and shut gate.

For sure, Joe Biden would be losing, right?

Yeah,

absolutely.

At any other time.

What can they do to juice this

to make people feel in the short term?

And have you heard of anything?

What are they doing?

What's the Fed doing?

Treasury?

Great.

So that's a great question.

I get asked that question all the time.

What are they going to try to do to juice the economy?

And the first obvious thing, and I'm not saying, I'm not making accusations here.

I'm just saying it's a possibility that the Fed under Jerome Powell will juice the economy with a huge deluge of money.

You know, and in the short term, that makes people feel richer, right?

Of course, pretty soon people realize it's just inflated money that they're getting.

So, you know, keep an eye on that.

Does the Fed start really lowering interest rates and pumping trillions of dollars more money into the economy?

That's what they did in the first two years of the Biden administration.

The second thing they're doing is priming the pump by massive increases in government spending and debt.

You know,

Biden is not just the most financially responsible president in history.

He is by far the most financially responsible president.

We've increased the debt.

by I know these numbers are incomprehensible, but a $6 trillion increase in three years in our national debt.

I mean, even nobody's ever come close to that.

And by the way, we're not in a war.

Last time I checked, it's not like World War II.

What is it?

Where is all that money going?

It would be one thing we're borrowing for, you know, to fix our roads or better hospitals or better schools.

What have we gotten for that $6 trillion?

Oh, windmills and

TVs that nobody wants to buy.

So it's been, and did you know, by the way, Glenn, this is something that sticks in my throat.

Did you know there's a $350 billion, I didn't say million, billion dollar green energy slush fund being run out of the White House?

Did you know that?

$350 billion?

How?

This is the so-called Inflation Reduction Act.

It created a $350 billion program where the White House just passed out money.

No, I'm not done yet, Glenn.

Do you know who runs that program?

You're not going to believe this.

John Podesta.

Oh my gosh.

John Podesta, how much do you think he knows about energy policy?

He's just a political hack.

So they have a $350 billion swashbund.

Where do you think that

money is going?

It's going to every Democratic operative.

It's going to every green energy group.

It's going to all these businesses that have given campaign contributions to Biden.

This is the biggest graft in the history of the United States.

Well, you're not improving my mood much.

All right, let me ask you.

I work at the Heritage Foundation.

We're the largest conservative think tank.

$350 billion?

That's like 3,000 heritage foundations.

See, that's the scariest thing to me.

All this money that's sloshing around, I know, you know, I can't prove it.

My gut just tells me a lot of this war money is going

all over the world, setting up new little NGOs and little things that help them.

I mean,

I would be shocked if we find out in the end that that's not what happened to a lot of that money.

Of course.

Of course it did.

It's going into the hands of it's a pay-to-play operation.

And that's why the Democrats, you know, I don't know if you've been noticing, they're raising three times as much money as the Republicans are right now.

Well, you can raise a lot of money if you're passing out $350 $350 billion.

Jeez.

All right.

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I'm trying to cheer you off.

I know, no.

Well, you're not doing it.

All right.

Give me a minute.

I want to ask you two questions on Trump.

One of them is about the $355 million.

He had $400 million in cash.

That's gone now.

He's got to actually step up with that money to put it in a bond, even if he does go to trial again.

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So, with the Democrats getting all of this money and outraising the Republicans, you know, in a big way, and Donald Trump having his cat, what he said he had, $400 million in cash, that's all gone because of these judgments.

What is your

what?

I'm sure he doesn't let you in on all of these.

Maybe he does, but how are you feeling about his ability to run?

Well, I don't know about his personal finances, so I can't really talk about that.

I mean, I think as 90% of Americans, this is one of the most outrageous verdicts ever.

As you know, as you know, this was

a victimless crime, if it was a crime at all.

No one was frauded.

No one has ever been prosecuted or even found guilty if they were

for this particular crime in 70 years.

Nobody.

No.

And here's the thing.

Let's say that uh you know i come to you and say you know i've got this great property and i want to sell it to you glenn uh and and i've i appraise it at five million dollars right so do you want to buy it from me and uh

are you just going to say oh yeah okay if you say it's worth five million dollars i'll you know i'll i'm going to say let me look at it let me review it

and i'll get somebody else to evaluate that that's how it always works of course and and people will um you know overestimate overestimate the value.

It's like when you buy a house, you bid below the asking price, right?

And you also do have a house doctor come in and make sure that everything is working, blah, blah, blah.

So the idea that, and by the way, people, the people who bought these properties from Trump made money.

They didn't lose money.

They made money.

So

my head is twisted around.

I don't understand how this is fraud.

And so

what is the effect

on New York State?

I mean, Hochl came out and said.

That's

Did you see that a couple of major investors today, just a Leary and a couple of others, said, we're out of here.

And by the way, the last thing New York needs right now is more people to leave, more of, and incidentally, people like Donald Trump, who built, you know, he built, you know, so many of these properties, he helped build New York.

And this is the way they repay him.

I mean, do you remember, you know, the story about the skating ricks?

They couldn't get it together.

You know, he walked, it was taking them years to do this, and he came in, and he got it done in six months.

So no good deed ever goes unpunished in politics.

This is very scary, as you know.

I think while you're,

by the way, it's just a personal story.

I worked for Trump.

I was one of his economists.

I swear to God, I'm not making this up.

Sometimes I wake up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night, and I have this dream that I go to the door in the middle of the night, somebody's pounding on my door.

I open it up, and there's three FBI agents with machine guns there to haul me.

I mean, I feel like we're living in the Soviet Union, the way they're going after anybody, not just Trump, but anybody who supported Trump.

Oh, I know.

I know.

So

thank you, by the way, for this, Stephen, and thank you for still standing up.

There's a lot of people that are bailing because they don't want the hassle.

And I know that, and it's not hassle.

It's the potential of gulag if this continues.

And it's true.

Can I just say one thing, Glenn, Glenn, because this is important.

And Trump says this and people kind of laugh.

The left laughs at him, but it is true.

They're not just going after him.

Oh, I know.

They're going

after anyone who supports him or worked for him.

And it's not just him.

It's anyone that opposes and has any kind of impact.

Look at Elon Musk.

He buys Twitter.

And that's when seven federal investigations start on him.

Right.

I mean, they'll do it to anybody.

They'll do it to anybody.

And they are.

And they are.

Stephen, let me, we have to have you on more often.

I keep saying this every time you're on.

Let's do it more.

But let me ask you, one thing that we can't handle is giant debt.

And Donald Trump doesn't have a problem with debt.

He wants to grow it, and so you pay for that debt.

And I get that, but we've got, is he going to get in and just continue this kind of spending?

Well, you know, first of all, I admire so much of what Trump did for our economy and for our country.

But you're right.

You know, the one issue he was not good on is

he did not cut the budget.

I want to see the budget cut.

You do.

But if you're growing the economy, you know, that helps a lot in terms of reducing the burden of the debt.

He will get better trade deals.

He's going to get control of the border.

He's going to produce American energy.

He's going to do all these things that are so good for the economy.

But I hate to tell you this.

Politicians love to play Santa Claus.

You know, they love to pass out other people's money.

So at some point that kills Trump to lower the debt is to get more revenue in by growing the economy faster.

It was the same thing that Reagan did.

However,

at some point, we've spent too much.

And we're, I mean, we just cannot keep up with this kind of spending.

Stephen Moore, thank you so much.

Always good to talk to you, my friend.

God bless you.

Me too.

Thank you.

Stephen Moore.

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Am I on the wrong side?

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She's the author now of You Will Own Nothing, former investment banker.

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Carol, I wanted to start with you because you are a former New York investment banker.

What

is the fallout going to be on this Donald Trump

conviction and $355 million fine?

Never been done before.

Not even with the Gambino crime family.

They never did this.

Yeah, okay.

So I'm just going to correct San Francisco investment banker because I don't want to lump myself in with all of those New York investment bankers.

Like that's any better.

So this,

the implications of this are horrifying for everybody who is in business.

When you think about presenting your company in the best light, whether it is a startup firm, a venture capital firm, a private equity firm, real estate holdings, any publicly or privately held company that has adjusted EBITDA,

they are saying, here's what we think the business is, but we're going to put this in the best light.

And what this particular judgment has done, in my opinion, has said, you know, even if somebody hasn't gotten hurt, even if, you know, the bank that you've presented this to or the investors said, hey, we made a ton of money, we're not a counterparty to this suit, that the state can come in and say, well, we don't think this is right.

We've done our own calculations.

We see that you have some, you know, numbers that you got wrong here.

And we're going to charge you with fraud civilly, not criminally, civilly, and then put in some insane judgment that is basically like sticking your finger in the air and seeing which way the wind blows because there is no actual damages.

The bank has said that they were not victimized, that they made a ton of fees.

And so, who really is the counterparty here?

They're saying that there was some sort of ill-gotten gain, they made this up, and this has an incredibly disturbing implication for any business.

If this is the standard, then basically I would say every business in the United States, somebody needs to be thrown in jail and assessed hundreds of millions of dollars because this happens throughout all of business.

I will tell you, if Elon Musk was still in California, I bet he'd be shaking in his boots because if this can happen in New York, it could happen in California.

And they're already going after him with all kinds of stuff.

Even if you're on the right side currently, if your company ever falls against the state on anything, you're opening up yourself for

the end.

I mean,

how much of an impact will this have on businesses being and locating themselves in New York?

Well, that's the interesting question because everybody thinks that it can't happen to them.

Oh, it's Donald Trump.

He's done, you know, all of these things that we've heard about in the media.

This can never happen to me.

And there is a lot of ego and a lot of hubris, particularly with the financial services and other companies that are based in New York City.

We have seen some level of exodus based on crime, taxes, and other decisions.

So obviously, the ones who have been savvy have already gotten out of there or started to decouple from New York.

But I think that

when something like this happens, they see this big personality and they say, it can't happen to me.

But why not?

Why can't it happen to you?

If you go against whatever the narrative is, if you go against the state and you say something that they don't like, this is,

as we've talked about before, sort of a soft form of social credit.

You are not aligned with what we want.

So we are going to find ways to penalize you financially.

It's terrible.

And it is absolutely terrifying.

All right.

So

let me talk to you here.

We have about six minutes here to talk about this.

Justin Haskins, who is my co-writer of my book,

we talk about ESG and all of this stuff all the time, go back and forth.

He's much,

if you think I'm a pessimist, he's even more of a pessimist.

But he wrote to me the other day and he's like, Glenn, this is great news.

The, you know, the U.S.

ESG bills and the European ESG collapse and now companies are getting out.

Even BlackRock says they're getting out of it.

And I said, whoa, whoa, whoa.

We're entering the time of an election.

And this is also what every progressive institution does.

They are exposed.

Oh, we're not going to do that with your gas stove.

And then they do it anyway in another form.

Are you, I mean, we should celebrate that we have them on the ropes, but we cannot let the pressure up.

We have to pursue them because they're trying to make an escape.

Yeah, I think this is the absolute perfect analogy.

And I know, Justin, and we have some conversations offline as well about all of this stuff.

And I do think there are a lot of things to celebrate because of the work that you and Justin have done, Glenn.

Your audience has done in raising awareness, some of the state-level leadership.

We are seeing a lot of shifts happening.

You know, we saw JPMorgan, Pimco, State Street all extract themselves from the Climate 100 Plus pledge, which is basically financial institutions cracking down on companies and trying to push them into this ESG,

these directives.

And so we just saw that happen this week.

And part of that is because they are afraid of the legislation and being hit with lawsuits.

In fact, BlackRock, which shifted from the U.S.

being part of it to just Europe being part of it, Within,

they cited lawsuits, potential lawsuits as one of the concerns.

So this is, you know, coming from the New York Times, coming from the mainstream media, they are scared, but it's not enough.

And, you know, that goes back to this new BlackRock voting initiative, proxy voting initiative, where they don't want to be the ones to take the blame and say, well, we're not pushing this.

You're voting for it.

And instead of going ahead and giving you the ultimate choice on how to vote, they're They're going to give you options, but of their options, almost all of them have to do, I know this is going to shock you, Glenn, with climate or climate impact or environment or social thing.

I know it's a social responsibility.

So I could have Soviet communism, Chinese communism,

or

North Korean communism, but I can choose.

I can choose.

You get a pick.

All right.

Wow, that's quite a choice.

So go ahead.

I was going to say, and it's the way they're doing it is obviously they've been paying attention to your program because they're trying to really manipulate you in one direction or another.

They have this one choice that's called the ISS Catholic Faith-Based Policy.

So you're going, oh, okay, that's great.

That's going to be aligned potentially with my values and patriotic values.

But what they say is, quote, that it's aligned with social responsibility and, quote, the active ownership and and investment philosophies of glee or i'm sorry uh broadly consistent with the objectives of socially responsible shareholders as well as the teachings of catholicism and christianity and then they talk about for you know social environmental uh impact that yeah that they're going along with you know the the social and environmental uh philosophy of catholic-based teaching yeah i mean they're really they're really trying to to make you sure that you don't read this and say, oh, this is going to be aligned with my values, but they're just pushing this in a different way to manipulate you.

So now they can say that you're the one that voted for this.

Unbelievable.

So damn evil.

It is.

I'm looking at all of the things that are happening, like the farmers.

You know, that's kind of calmed down now over in Europe because the politicians said, you know what?

You're right.

You're right.

We're not going to push those things.

We're going to hold.

We're going to hold.

There's an election coming out this summer.

And after the election, we'll bring that back up.

But I think you're right.

And I think these farmers just might be dumb enough to think that they won, but they didn't win.

You cannot, this is like, you know, any good war strategy.

You cannot let them regroup, fall back and regroup someplace else.

You must pursue them at some point because they're going to keep doing it over and over.

They'll just pop up someplace else or under a different name or another new way to manipulate the reality.

And you have to, if you don't pursue them, you have to start all over again.

Yes, well, the farmers have obviously been very brave and they have been leading the way.

And

yeah, I think that they may have won the battle, but they haven't won the war.

There was an article that came out in the Financial Times this morning about here in the U.S.

about the amount of investment dollars that keeps increasing in terms of buying up farmland and that the average age of farmers here in the United States is 58.

I would imagine that there's similar demographics and issues going on around the world.

So, you know, they may be placating and saying, okay, we're going to drop this, but we know through the fight against natural asset companies, you know, some of these other proposals that are coming to the table and things that they keep moving around, that they're finding other ways to achieve their objectives.

I think the good news is that we are having an impact, whether it's the farmers, whether it's the listeners here using their voice but i know it it seems exhausting but you've got to devote some part of every week to advocacy because we're in a situation where you could like you said you cannot let up they're on the ropes but if you let them get that second win they're going to come back and you know go back at you with some jabs and a right hook carol roth thank you so much God bless.

We'll talk to you again soon.

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There's a couple of things going on today.

Spanish conservatives have won the local election

as socialism, and the socialists retreat from there.

This is a very big deal in Spain.

Socialism is neat still in Spain.

Communism or fascism,

you know, this is not for everybody, but the Spanish kind of think it's okay.

We also have

the WHO director.

He's very upset.

He says conspiracy theories are going to derail his global pandemic treaty.

It's a pact with the future,

and it's mission-critical in case we have anything else that might pop its ugly head.

And what it does is it gives the WHO pretty much control over every nation state should they decide that there's a reason.

And they'll just, you know, they'll take control.

Everything will be fine.

You know, they'll control the horizontal and the vertical.

But don't worry.

Don't worry.

Everything's going to be good.

Everything's going to be good.

Meanwhile, the Senate is trying to pass a bill

now, or I should say it's being proposed.

There are some that are trying to pass it.

It says all treaties, all treaties must go through the Senate.

I don't know if you need a bill as much as the Constitution, which states that clearly,

but

we'll see.

Well, this is kind of like our border, where Joe Biden just needs the Republicans to pass this so he can shut the border down.

He's been wanting to do it the whole time, and he can't.

Yeah.

And then now all of a sudden, he's saying he may just do an executive order to shut the border down.

Oh, it's weird.

It's like, it's almost like he had that power the entire time.

That is weird.

Brockton High School in Brockton, Massachusetts, the largest public school in the state of Massachusetts,

3,500 students.

Apparently, they're having a problem with student violence.

Now, what could have gone wrong here?

What do you think could have gone wrong with a public school losing control over the students?

They say they have experienced a disturbing increase in the incidents related to violence, security concerns, and substance abuse.

Apparently, many teachers broke down in tears at the level of school violence there.

Gee, I mean,

what's happening in our society that would cause a breakdown in the schools and loss of authority in schools?

So they are now asking

for the National Guard to be put in the hallways of this school to bring it under control.

And

I think this would be great.

What could possibly happen?

Vladimir loves this.

Oh, yeah, that's

good.

That's good.

That's good.

I don't think there's a.

Is there anything else to say on that, Stu, except that's good?

No, it seems I can't wait to see how it all turns out.

Yeah, you know, me too.

Secretary of State Anthony Blinken

has urged the State Department now to stop using problematic terms like manpower and, of course, that problematic mother and father

words.

Those are very problem.

But don't worry.

At any time, we could call out the National Guard and we'll get all this under control.

I feel better about that already.

By the way, Tucker Carlson, a live interview with me today at 1.30 Central, 2.30 Eastern.

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So,

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Well, let me give you this story.

Russian police investigate alleged LGBTQ propaganda at My Little Pony event.

Yeah.

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Yeah.

Police in Moscow were called to investigate an event dedicated to the cartoon series

My Little Pony.

Bronies?

Well, yeah.

Are these bronies?

Bronies were there, yeah.

The event, the Miamur Convention, was shut down by organizers early on Saturday after officers arrived at the venue.

Police were unable to find any evidence of LGBTQ plus propaganda at the event, which was considered an illegal activity in Russia.

The police received a complaint complaining that our event promoted non-traditional relationships and related symbols, adult contents for minors, and general horror and darkness, event organizers wrote on the Russian social media.

Two police checks did not uphold these complaints.

My Little Pony is a toy line and media franchise developed by the company Hasbro.

The Moscow event was dedicated to the cartoon series, which focuses on the power of friendship and targeted to an audience under the age of 10.

Although the convention catered to its many adult fans, the logo of the convention in the Russian capital was a pony with a mane styled in the colors of the Russian flag, not the rainbow.

My Little Pony has prompted anxiety in Russia as

the country's authorities cracked down on the local LGBTQ

community with Russian movie database changing the cartoon series rating to an adult-only 18

in December 2023.

In November 2023, a Russian court declared the global LGBTQ plus movement an extremist organization.

Since then, at least three people have been arrested and serve time in prison for displaying rainbow-colored items.

Because

my understanding of the Brony culture, and perhaps you can't jump into this a little bit more deeply than I can, but like it's been essentially adopted by some of the LGBTQQIA2 plus community.

Hey, stand in line.

Noah's first in that line.

But like, My Little Pony itself is just a cartoon for little girls, basically.

Or so they'd have you think.

I mean, maybe they have embraced this.

They're like, hey, look, we're getting extra people buying our crap.

Like, let's debra.

But generally speaking.

As part of that LGBTQ propaganda, we must censor this show quickly.

I just feel like maybe

I don't again,

just because some other group is utilizing this material doesn't necessarily mean that's what the material is designed for.

Okay, so let me ask you,

is this

how you want to solve problems going forward?

As we look at,

well, here.

Can we go to

SOT1?

I believe it is.

Yes, listen to this, SOT1, local.

We want to warn you that these videos are disturbing.

And store managers and employees tell us that this same man has been accused of doing the same thing at other antique shops in the area.

But employees here at Antique Gallery say he didn't buy or steal anything, but they're hoping he'll be caught.

Cameras capture this man in a kilt looking around an antique booth.

He grabs an item off a shelf.

He's then seen walking behind a birdcage.

He appears to put the item under his kilt before putting it back on a shelf.

Another camera shows a woman walking into a booth.

The man comes up to her, whispers in her ear, then leaves.

He appears to grab another item off a shelf and puts it under his kilt, once again, returning the item.

More cameras capture the man repeating the disturbing acts.

What did they do with those products?

They

threw them away mostly.

Golden Horse, the man, doesn't come back.

Yeah, so am I.

First of all, that wasn't a kilt.

That isn't a kilt.

That was a little schoolgirl dress.

Okay?

And he was inserting these items

into orifices under the skirt.

Okay?

Now.

What do we do about that?

What's this caused by?

I think you just burned the store down.

If I'm the owner of that store, I'm just burning it to the ground after that.

I got to tell you, it makes me not want to walk into any antique store again.

Or any other store.

Right.

People are weird.

Okay.

So

I believe that

the news anchor there, KPRC, it's the NBC station in Houston, either has no concept of

Scotland at all and doesn't have any idea that that's not a kilt.

Kilts look very, very specific.

That's a little schoolgirl dress.

Is that what I mean?

I mean, when I think schoolgirl dress, I'm thinking like a plaid, like

a dress.

It was

black and white plaid.

Okay.

And see, those aren't folds.

Those are little waves of the skirt.

Okay.

That's a skirt.

That is a skirt.

Yeah, I know.

I wouldn't describe that as a kilt.

In Texas,

you know, a guy wearing a kilt kind of stands out.

Now, maybe in New York, definitely in Scotland, no.

No.

Okay.

But

a kilt is different than a skirt.

We are now embracing guys and turning a blind eye to guys who are in skirts.

That's okay.

That's all right.

That's okay.

Why?

Because your sexual perversion is okay.

It's okay.

I want to dress like a little schoolgirl, and I'm a 45-year-old bald man.

Okay, come on in.

We've lost all shame,

and we've lost all perspective on right and wrong.

Our whole society has been perverted.

Now, the reason why I bring this up here is because Vladimir Putin would use the government and muscle to make sure none of that's going on.

I don't want stormtroopers in the streets.

Now, this guy, I would like him to be arrested if he is found.

The story ends with him, the store owner, what do you hope happens to him?

I just hope he doesn't come back.

What?

No, I would like the guy to go to jail or at least pay some fine.

I don't know what law he's breaking by sticking things up his butt and putting them back on the shelf, but there's got to be...

to be somewhere.

I'm sure there is.

Yes.

You know, someday, someday this society, if we remain free, someday there will be an old law on the books that was put in around 2025.

And it was, don't insert things into your butt and put it back on the shelf.

And people will look at that and go, those were crazy days.

Like, no spitting while tying your horse to the saloon.

It'll look like that.

It'll date us because this is when America lost her mind.

I don't want goon squads.

I don't want what's in Russia.

I've never wanted that.

But if you don't have any

right or wrong in your society, and your society, the major organs of it, the media, the news media, film industry,

and your government

does not have

some sort of moral lines there on what's right and wrong.

If your educational system is saying, hey, there's no such thing as right and wrong, you cannot have a civilization.

This is what happens.

Now,

I never thought we would have to have a law against guys dressing up as little schoolgirls and putting items off the shelf into their orifice

and then putting them back on the shelf.

I never thought we would have that problem.

So why are we having that now?

What's changed?

Well, there's a few things that have changed.

I think the biggest thing is

shame has been turned into fame.

We have lost our moral compass.

We don't even have a compass anymore.

We don't know what direction.

We're in the woods.

We have no direction where we're headed.

Could be a happy place.

Could be a cliff.

My bet is the cliff is just ahead.

But we have no moral compass to show us the difference of right and wrong.

North and south.

up and down.

Then we've lost all of the institutions

that would enforce actual laws, not,

you know,

Catholic laws or Presbyterian laws or Mormon laws or any of that.

Actual right and wrong, well thought out, well crafted laws.

Don't steal, don't kill,

don't lie.

All of our laws are based on Moses and his Ten Commandments.

It's all based on Judeo-Christian

theology.

It's not a theological regime.

I don't want a theological regime.

But the only way freedom works, you only have two choices.

This ends two ways.

You restore personal responsibility

and you empower

in the private sector only.

You build up and empower those organizations and those churches that are teaching something

that has value and makes people a better person.

Something that you're striving to be better.

You're striving to be more noble.

We're not striving to be more noble.

We're now seeing who can be more outrageous than the guy in the little schoolgirl skirt stuffing stuff up his butt.

And believe me, within a month, maybe within an hour, we'll find that person.

Because somebody will accept that as a challenge.

There is no low that is low enough.

We've stopped looking up.

We first just gaze at ourself like narcissists in the mirror.

It's just us, it's me, me, me, me, me, me, me.

And then when we see people getting popular because they do awful things

and we're driven to make it more about us, well, I can do that, or I can even do worse.

You either restore personal responsibility, and the best way, our founder said, is through churches.

Because churches, when done correctly in the Judeo-Christian world,

churches teach people you answer to God.

I do this job.

I live a clean life.

I pay my taxes, not because I'm afraid of the government.

Oh.

I do it because in a different sense of the word fear, I fear God.

I want to be on his side, so I comply to his rules,

which also kind of are reflected in government laws.

But see, we're not making laws anymore.

Now we have the administration making up new guidelines, making up new rules.

They're not laws.

They're new rules, new guidelines.

And those don't reflect anything,

anything

that the vast majority of people agree with.

And they're only making our country worse.

And by increasing the power of one man or the administration,

you have a greater chance of becoming exactly what Vladimir Putin did.

One way or another, you say you don't want religion.

Well, I've got news for you.

Wokeism is a religion.

I know, because I wouldn't pay play by the rules, so I've been excommunicated in all the cool places.

It's a religion.

America is not a place where we have a state religion, be it wokeism

or Christianity.

We worship God, and in this country, that is a Judeo-Christ God.

All of our laws and our whole system is built upon that.

That's not bigoted.

That helps people become more Christ-like.

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Oh my gosh.

You know, I was reading that story

from the New York Times about how people are just tired of this on the left.

Let me just give you a couple of highlights from

the sound of yesterday.

Let's see.

How about COP2, please?

Elizabeth Warren.

Why do you think that people

all these polls show like a lot of voters look back on the Trump years and they think they didn't like a lot about it, but they think the economy was good in the Trump years.

And I know that like we weren't, I know, well, at the end, clearly, and then at the end, when COVID happened and trying so hard, they figure, oh, well, COVID-shaped world.

And so, of course, the economy.

Are you tired of the answer, Orange Man?

Tired?

How about this one?

Here's Pelosi.

Listen to this.

Conspiracy theory.

Misinformation.

Putin is probably the richest person in the world.

Probably the richest person in the world.

Forget all these ratings that people have, the richest person in the world.

He's also the most, well, not the most evil, stiff competition for that honor, but nonetheless among the top three or four most evil people in the world.

What does he have on Donald Trump that he have to constantly be catering to Putin?

What do you think?

We're all wondering this question, Speaker.

This is a conspiracy theory now, again, saying that Trump is financially being blackmailed by Putin or Putin is blackmailing Trump.

What is it?

Not even financially, just some sort of information.

Some information.

This goes back to the P-tape type stuff, right?

Like he's got something on him.

Of course, doesn't explain why Trump's policies while in office were much more stringent on Russia than either the predecessor,

either predecessor really of his presidency.

And one more.

It's 13 seconds.

Do I have time?

Cut four.

Do you think that Ukraine can survive a year

this year

on the battlefield

without American aid?

Kamala?

Ukraine needs our support, and we must give it.

We must give it.

I don't know.

Crisis after crisis.

Blame game.

Who else is sick of it?

What do you say?

We don't play it anymore.

No.

I know.

She likes school buses, yellow school buses.

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Just a couple of hours, I'm doing a live interview.

I just think there's something different about live.

And

I asked Tucker Carlson when he was over in Russia, when you get back,

will you sit down?

Because there's all kinds of stuff being said about you and this interview and everything else.

And I said,

would you do an interview with me?

And so his first interview on his return from Russia

is today at 2.30 Eastern Time.

And

I don't want you to miss it.

If you are a Blaze TV subscriber, you're getting it today live.

That's the only way you can watch it live is on Blaze TV.

It's a big deal.

Yeah, it is.

This is, I mean, because

he's been the center of the conversation for multiple weeks because of this interview.

Oh, yeah.

And yet has not really gone into depth on it.

He said a couple of comments.

He had, I guess, a speech maybe after this where he addressed some of it.

But there's been a lot of criticism from the mainstream media, been a lot of criticism, even from the right, on some of the aspects of this trip.

And I would love to hear what, you know, however, especially

his subway station and grocery store thing, I think, was really confusing.

I don't know what he meant by that, but I'm going to ask him.

I'm going to ask him today.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, because I think actually

his

interview with Putin, I think, was relatively well received.

You know, that's my perception of it.

And that, like, he was kind of criticized for letting him go on too long about the history.

But, I mean, you know, he

was a two-hour interview.

It didn't seem like he was trying to filibuster.

Yes.

Right.

So I don't know why it's bad to hear more words from Putin on this.

I mean, you could see.

It was just boring.

You could skip that part if you don't like it.

I thought it was interesting.

I thought his.

Yeah, he's all over the board and he's not accurate on a lot of it.

His reasoning for it is like, I mean, Tucker said it.

So are you saying that everybody's

ancestral land should be returned?

Of course, the question you always have to ask with this is, at what point, like, go back in history far enough, somebody else is living on this property.

Like,

at what point do you pick for your ancestral lands?

It's always an interesting question with these guys.

But, I mean, like, he got, I think, widespread praise for him to his face asking about the Wall Street Journal reporter and saying he should return him to America right now, release him to my custody right now.

Tucker received widespread praise for his questioning

of that.

Yeah, I mean, this guy's

literally murdered his biggest political opponent a few days later.

Yeah.

That's a ballsy thing to do.

How dare you say that?

I mean, quite allegedly, I'm sorry.

I forgot to throw it allegedly.

Sorry, Vlad.

I mean, usually he throws people off the roof.

This one he just let wander in the middle of the snow in the Arctic Circle for a while.

Yeah, no big deal.

So you have that going on.

I think that's going to be an interesting

part of this.

I'm interested to see if he saw the number of times that he was trying, you know, he's such a KGB agent.

And was he prepared for things like, look, I know you studied history.

There were several things that Putin said all the way along where he was saying, I know everything there is about you.

And was that unsettling?

What was that?

Even if he noticed it, I'm sure he did.

I mean, I think the grocery store and subway stuff is interesting as well.

Oh, big time.

You know, I think the media is trying to portray Tucker Carlson as this guy who got duped by Vladimir Putin into, wow, he didn't even know that Joseph Stalin actually built these subways as designed as

a propaganda effort for visitors, right?

And by him saying this,

is he Walter Duranti?

Right.

And that's that's the question right i'm gonna ask him that that's that'll be really interesting because look

you can say you disagree with tucker carlson but it's not like he doesn't know this stuff he's

very smart he knows this history so is he making a point here is he you know what is his point um you know that's going to be really interesting to hear him go through today i i can't wait to watch this i mean because look you could say a lot of things about tucker carlson you can i disagree with him on on some of the stuff but uh when it comes to some of the foreign policy stuff that he.

I'm not sure where he's at.

That's what I want to find out.

I'm not sure where he stands on things like this.

I mean, my stance on

the Russia-Ukraine thing:

Russia is bad.

Okay.

Yeah.

Run by killers.

Okay.

They, for whatever excuse they have, that was a sovereign state.

They violated it.

Now, let's look at player number two because the world is asking everybody to get involved.

Okay.

Well, I'm not on Russia's side.

Two, I'm not on Ukraine's side.

I was on the people's side, but I think they've been all killed

since we've been going on.

I don't trust the government over there.

I don't think their president is a good guy.

I think it is a cash machine.

I don't trust.

They were actually funding Nazis on the border.

No, I'm not for them either.

And then you have the third one, the government of the United States.

I don't trust them.

I don't trust that this is real, that they're really in there to be the good guy and make sure the good guys.

I don't believe that at all.

I don't know what game is being played, but I don't want to be involved because I don't trust any of the players at the table.

And I'm not going to throw my money in on the table betting on one of those guys because I don't want any of them to win.

And I'm wondering, has he picked and

where

what is his philosophy on this?

What is his philosophy on Putin and authoritarianism compared to, you know, one of the things when he's talking about the,

you know, the subways and everything else.

Yeah, I'd like that.

But not at the cost of gulags.

Well, certainly not at the cost of gulags.

But like,

I would be surprised, and maybe he'll get into this, but I would be surprised if Tucker Carlson's philosophy has evolved to a place where he believes the centralized government taking more American tax dollars to build beautiful subways is the way he thinks things should go.

I don't think that's what he believes at all.

No.

So, like, I can understand

or some sort of a dictator that'll just take care of everything.

Right, right.

Maybe certainly not.

I don't think so.

I don't think so.

And it's like,

I relate to, I mean, Glenn, we went into these subways every day when we worked in New York City.

We were in them all the time.

I once sat in a subway that was stopped at a station.

And when they stop at a station, the doors remain open because someone might want to get on.

Well, as I sat there, I watched a bag of trash move.

I watched it move.

Was it a kid or was it a rat?

It was not a rat, Glenn.

A family,

an extended family all gathering together for Thanksgiving inside a trash bag that was rolling across the platform toward the open door.

I watched this happen.

It was terrifying.

Living in New York is just a different experience.

Right.

And so would I like to see

that?

Would I like to see a cleaner subway system in New York?

Sure.

But of course, you know, you go outside of Moscow to other places, you're not seeing this.

The cost of living, he knows all this.

He knows what he saw.

He saw a propaganda show.

This is what they provide.

And so the question is, what's the point he's making there?

And how does he actually internalize this?

Because I don't buy at all that like he was just duped.

He just believes every grocery store in Russia is perfect.

I don't believe he thinks that.

And I'll be fascinated to hear his explanation on it.

So that happens at 2.30 this afternoon.

That's Eastern time.

1.30 Central, 12.30 Mountain, 11.30 Pacific.

And if you're in Alaska or Aleutian time, you're on your own.

I have no idea.

I don't know.

I have no idea

in the morning.

I just think things happen when they happen in those places.

They really do.

You know, you don't know.

Aloha.

Aloha.

So anyway, but you're going to get it first.

It will only be seen on Blaze TV for subscribers.

It will come out later.

But I wanted to do this without commercials and just raw the way we tape these with no interruption.

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So yesterday,

we were talking about the election of the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals.

If the right people aren't elected there,

they will keep the

ruling that

the AG cannot investigate any kind of voter fraud,

can't bring it up in trial, can't prosecute, can't investigate, nothing.

We lose Texas within four years if we don't get some new people on this because they don't answer the Supreme Court or anybody else.

This is the highest of the land for this issue.

So it's David Schneck, Gina Parker, and Lee Finley that Texans should vote for.

And nobody's going to remember that.

You're going to be like, oh, which one was it again?

You're not going to remember.

So I wanted to make like a catchy little jingle.

And because I don't want to actually do anything, just had AI do it.

And it's pretty bad.

but

maybe it's bad enough to remember.

I'm not sure.

You just type in, write me a song about these names and this particular, you know, the criminal court

for Texas.

Okay, so it's a little like

a little Americana.

Here it is:

David Shank, Gina Parker, Neither, names to remember, champions so clearly

for justice for Texas.

Their pledge resounds in the court of criminal appeals their honorabounds

Shake Parker they

hear the call

Yeah, for Texas for justice they stand tall.

Yeah, they do

the election integrity they'll defend

on Shake Parker Finley we depend

Schneck Parker and Finley we depend I'm not gonna say that's a good song no one but like the fact that two sentences typed in

created that is just insane mind-boggling insane i worked almost 45 seconds

the hardest part of that was opening up the laptop right yeah now again it's not a

good song yet but you saw with the with the video uh things they released earlier yeah it's getting there quickly yeah i think we can do better than that i think so too i think we should try some i would love to ask you know the audience david schneck gina parker Lee Finley for the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals.

How do you make people remember that?

I think the best way is to do a jingle, you know, an earworm that you just can't get out.

I don't think that's it, but maybe, I mean, can we hear it again?

No, it's not.

It's not.

But, you know, maybe you have a band.

Or

you're just better at using AI than I am, which can't be tough.

No, can't be tough because it doesn't seem like it seems like, is there a higher resolution version of this that you could purchase?

No, purchase, yeah, I'm not that committed, right?

I mean, we lose our country, but I'm not that committed.

Yeah, you don't want to spend like five bucks a month on if it would have been good, you know,

maybe.

I mean, let me play one more.

Can we play it live here, Sarah?

Let me play this real quick.

This is the other one.

This was so bad, I just didn't even think that we should,

but listen to this.

This is the other for I've linked well.

In Texas, Lenin, take a stand for justice true and fair.

AI

for judges strong who write the wrongs and handle cases with care.

Yeah, here we go.

Here we go.

Here we go.

Listen to this.

Of criminal justice.

Patriots through and through.

Yeah, see, I think this is just

a whole fan.

It's just so bad.

And I thought, well, maybe this is so bad that you would remember Schneck, Parker, and Finlay.

With law and order in their sight.

Drunk is the AI.

What?

Drug is the AI on.

I know.

And they don't mention the names except.

Yeah, that's not good.

It only mentions their name once, and I'm like, well, that's not worth it.

It's like, I need like ace of bass, you know.

Okay.

All she wants is another baby or whatever the hell that thing was.

Yeah.

And they sang, you know, they only had like seven words in the entire three-minute song.

Well, that's what I want.

And I think when you think of how to win over Texans, you're thinking ace of bass.

You are.

You go directly to this 90s Swedish.

I just need something that people are like, oh, I can't get this out of my mind.

Right.

So then, Schneck Parker, Finley for the Court of Criminal Appeals.

Right.

When they're like, I can't get that out of my mind, we win.

So I'm depending on you.

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