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All right, yeah, yeah.

This is probably the end of the primary season, which is, hey, something new.

But

isn't everything that happens something new and exciting like we've never seen before?

I'm going to hang my hat there.

You know what?

This is new.

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This will be fun.

Let's see how that works out, shall we?

So we have the New Hampshire primary today.

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is this going to be a fun day?

It is.

I mean, it's going to be new, exciting.

We're going to see things that never have happened really before.

I can't wait to see how all of them turn out.

Yes.

It's going to be incredible to watch.

You know.

Interesting journey going on.

And I don't think we're going to have to wait long.

No.

You know, I think, you know, sometimes when we've been saying that, we're like, you know, five, 10 years.

I think, I, I, I think we're, you know, days, weeks, months before we can see how this all turns out, which is great.

We know we're going to live through it so we can see it.

Well, we don't know that, of course.

Wow.

You may not be able to see it.

Because you'll be in prison.

Anyway,

so

let's start with what's happening in New Hampshire.

There is a new Trafalgar poll out.

Yep.

And it doesn't look good for Nikki Haley.

No.

In fact, I would say my impression of this race is one that is moving quickly away from Haley having any impact in it.

You know, if we would have talked about this about a month ago, maybe three weeks ago, right after Chris Christie drops out, there's a real chance of Nikki Haley kind of keeping this close.

There's some polling that shows it in single digits.

Christie dropping out, most of his voters likely go to her.

Like all six of them.

Well, he hit 12%.

in New Hampshire.

It was the one state he was competitive.

So there was an argument to be made that this was a, I mean, it was always a leaning Trump race, but it was close to a toss-up there a few weeks ago.

What has happened since the Iowa results have come in is it has consolidated, I would say, around Trump.

And the polling has moved as well.

I mean, it was even the polls that showed Trump with a lead were showing him with a, you know, 13, 15-point lead in that range.

Slew of polls came out today.

All of them had Trump up 20 points or more.

So this one does seem like it is moving towards Trump.

I would not be surprised at all to see this to be real blowout territory.

23 in the Trump, in the Trafalgar poll.

Insider Advantage has it at 27

with Trump at 62% of the vote.

JL Partners Daily Mail has it at 20 points.

The Boston Globe, Suffolk University, which they're doing a tracking poll, kind of updating it by the day, 22 points.

The previous poll had him up 19.

It seems to be moving in the direction of Donald Trump showing a real blowout.

And at that point, you'd look at this and say, well, probably this is completely over.

Yeah, because in South Carolina, I mean, it's pretty much of a career killer.

I mean, even Walter Mondale won his state against, it was the only one, but he at least won his state against Ronald Reagan.

That was bad.

If she loses her own state.

That's not good.

That's not good.

Now, we saw this with Marco Rubio in 2016, right?

Lost Florida, and that was the end of his campaign.

Now, in a weird way, DeSantis is Florida, and Trump was Florida, so he kind of has multiple home states, which is one of the nice features of being a billionaire.

You can kind of be from anywhere.

I live in all 50 states.

Trump is not from South Carolina, quite clearly, and he already has a major lead there.

Now, she has an impact, and there's an argument for her to say, why not stick around?

She doesn't have, I would argue, the future of DeSantis in the party, or DeSantis has a real incentive to get out of the way, endorse Trump, fall in line.

He's got a future.

He's, you know,

he has a bright future.

And bright future.

It is

once they indicted Donald Trump, once that happened,

he became the

underdog.

He became Braveheart.

Okay.

Yeah.

And he became a symbol.

And you can't really beat a symbol.

You can't beat a symbol.

Right.

So I think that's true.

You know, it was interesting to watch as Trump has kind of done this tour.

He's talked about DeSantis a little bit.

And, you know, of course, as is the way with Trump, you know, he's very aggressive against you when you're running against him.

And the second you endorse him, he's very, very nice to you.

But when he made the statement in a couple places, you know, I'm retiring the desanctimonious

name, the reaction from the crowd was cheering.

Yeah.

Like the crowd does not hate DeSantis.

No, they don't.

They actually really like him.

He's still plus 40, 40, when it comes to favorability in the Republican Party.

This is not a guy who destroyed himself in this race, despite what you're going to read online.

No.

But I don't

do, honestly, he didn't do, and this is not why I think she destroyed herself,

but

he didn't do what Nikki Haley did, and that is come right after Donald Trump, be Chris Christie.

I don't think she's done that.

I don't know.

She's not been Chris Christie.

No, she hasn't been Chris Christie, but she took some pages out of Chris Christie's notebook.

The reason why she is out of,

it's not going to work is she's out of step with the new Republican feeling, which is honestly, I mean,

the left and the Democrats.

I don't see any movement there except to the harder left.

And that's not where Democrats live.

I don't think the average Democrat in the middle of the country, that's not what they are for and live for.

We have actually become much more,

when it comes to wars and things, much more like the Democratic Party used to be.

We're suspicious of the machine.

We're suspicious of the,

you know, the industrial complex, military-industrial complex,

suspicious of the government, what we're doing overseas.

We're becoming what the Democrats, we've moved.

I think we're...

You don't want to sign up for that description of what we've become.

No, no, I mean,

if you were a Democrat, that's the way you would view us on

war.

That's not where I am.

I'm still for, look, you come and poke us in the eye and give us a bloody nose.

We're going to take you out.

But we're not going to get involved.

And I don't want to rebuild everything or anything.

I'm just going to say, no.

And we do that a few times and then just leave.

we're we're gonna teach people the lesson don't punch us in the face

punch each other in the face well i'm i'm gonna have an opinion maybe on that but i'm not gonna get involved right and i think that is you're right out of this out of step with the energy of the party and that's why i'd ask you glenn like while i think desantis quite clearly has a future might not be i think might not be the president of the united states in 2028 it might be though 48 is waiting

it could be it could be that but it's it's some obviously prominent prominent role.

He has not done what Chris Christie has done.

And

no one would ever want to.

Nikki Haley, I think, falls closer to the Chris Christie vibe than the DeSantis vibe coming out of this, right?

Where it feels like if she doesn't win here or do something here, her future in the party probably is there.

She probably will have some prominent position.

There's a lot of money

in one side of the Republican Party that is not the Donald Trump side.

So it's not to say she has no future, but I don't think she's looking at herself as the 2028 candidate per se.

And the reason I so saying all that makes me think that her best piece of strategy is probably to stick around and pocket delegates over the long term and hope that Donald Trump runs into some major legal problem that changes the dynamic of the race in some way.

That's a dark way of looking at the future, but what's the upside for her to just drop out and go away?

I don't know that there is one, especially with South Carolina next.

But I mean, yeah.

You could run a bare bones.

I mean, Ryan Binkley's still in the race.

I doubt he has tons and tons.

I mean, he has personal wealth, but he does not have tons and tons of donors coming in.

Nikki Haley could run a bare bones campaign doing interviews on MSNBC for the next six months and probably not

she's already on Transport.

Falger is saying that there was a concerted effort to get Democrats to go out and vote for Nikki Haley

and to get the independents who usually vote Democrat to come out for Nikki Haley.

And now that seems to be falling apart and people are just going to, if they do go, they're going to write in Joe Biden.

Yeah, it's funny because the Democrats once again are making Trump's road easier.

You can think of that what you will, but they...

The vast majority of voters in New Hampshire are independents.

It's not like other states because the way that

the registration goes for this primary is if you're a Democrat, you cannot come today and register as a Republican and vote in the primary.

If you're an independent, you can do that.

So most people just stay independent and pick the primary that they want to go into, just

figuring out whatever they feel like at the time.

Long story on why the Democratic Party did this.

Mr.

President Democracy himself, who just cares so much about democracy, wound up losing Iowa and New Hampshire last time and then just deleted them off the calendar this time.

That's the show of democracy from Joe Biden and the Democratic Party.

But they have a law there that they have to have the first primary, so they're holding it.

It's a non-binding primary.

They're not getting their delegates.

However, it's become a big deal because other candidates filed there.

And last minute, everyone's coming in on the Biden side and saying, maybe this would look bad for us if we don't win.

Joe's the president of the United States.

If Dean Phillips wins this primary, this is going to look bad.

So they've dumped money in through super PACs to try to get people to write in Joe Biden, which is now taking those independent Democratic leading voters that may have crossed for Nicki Haley over to the Biden side to try to get Biden to have a showing there so he doesn't embarrass himself.

This is so crazy.

It's so crazy.

But it does, I think this is something that is legitimately going to hurt Haley's chances tonight because the people who just want to come out and hurt Trump

are being told by their people, no, go write in Joe Biden instead.

So I don't know.

I think that's part of the dynamic that's happening here, but I do expect Trump to win and win probably handily.

Yeah, I think so too.

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Hmm.

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Thank you.

Yes.

Thank you.

Yeah, it's an interesting.

This should be, I think the Democratic part of this is sort of fascinating in that, you know,

this idea that they had to just eliminate these states.

I haven't heard really anyone talk about this.

This is the party that is pitching to you that all they do is care about democracy.

Wherever the chips may fall, your vote matters.

And this is the party that eliminated the two states that the lead candidate lost

because,

oh, they're too white.

Yeah.

What's crazy is

they talk about disenfranchising voters and how the Republicans are disenfranchised.

They don't want to count every vote.

They will disenfranchise two states.

Two states.

Two entire states.

Traditional leaders in this process.

Again, I don't like this process.

I can't stand it.

I don't understand why we do it this way.

But okay, okay, you want to change it up.

So they've now changed it to the state, you know, the one that just happened to rescue Joe Biden's campaign.

You know, Joe, as soon as he wins, I mean, they talk about Trump doing this stuff, right?

And they act as if he's Mr.

Anti-democracy.

Look at what they're doing.

These poor people in New Hampshire are doing a Democratic primary because they are required to by state law, and then they're just not going to give them any delegates for it.

Because Joe Biden didn't like that he lost last time.

He was angry that he lost Iowa.

He lost New Hampshire.

South Carolina let him win.

Therefore, they get rewarded with the first primary.

Does anybody notice that every time they accuse somebody of doing something,

that's what they're doing?

Has anybody noticed that?

It does seem to happen over and over.

Oh my gosh.

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Every single time.

You know, Donald Trump, if he gets elected, he's going to try to put his opponents in jail.

What?

That's what you're doing.

That is what you're doing now.

Currently, everyone knows you're doing it.

We all watch the news.

We all know that you're trying to take your opponent off the ballot.

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They did it from day one, too, which is pathetic.

They knew they could have charged him with insurrection.

They didn't because they knew they would never win it.

And then they just started saying it on television over and over again, hoping that they could use that later as the evidence to get him tossed off the battle.

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Hello, Tim.

Have you voted yet?

Yes, I just voted about an hour ago.

Great.

Good for you.

Marianne Williamson?

Oh, no, no.

I voted for Trump.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

That's surprising.

Wow.

Yeah.

Not a Marianne Williamson supporter.

Yeah, I don't even know who that is.

There was a lot of people on there.

I had no idea who they were.

I swear there was like 20 people.

I'm like, I didn't even know there were this many candidates.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's a lot of minor candidates that were able to qualify, especially in New Hampshire, because they knew Biden on the Democratic side wasn't going to be there.

So people, everyone launched.

So tell me, Tim, with the Democrats, do you hear any Democrat talking about, you you know, they're disenfranchising our vote.

They're not giving us any delegates.

Do you hear any talk about that?

Honestly, I feel like there's so few of them

that I've talked to.

I mean, I know Biden supporters that are like, I'm voting for Trump.

I know most people that I know that voted differently in the last election,

they're going towards Trump.

And the other thing, too, is I haven't seen a single Trump sign.

The only one I've seen is someone with stomping on it

on the way driving somewhere.

Literally, and there's another one.

I think it was a Trump sign, but I think they took scissors to it or something.

It was all flashed up.

I'm like, it's blue.

It could be a Nikki Haley sign.

I have no idea.

But everybody talks.

I think it's almost like everybody is almost afraid.

And it's kind of like the Bubba effect on steroids.

Yeah.

I feel like if you vote.

If you're a Trump supporter, you're kind of a second-class person, but I think we're all realizing we're the majority.

And then the injustice thing, there's a huge injustice vote.

And I think that's New Hampshire is a state that prides itself on justice, live free or die.

And there's a sense of injustice.

That's something that most people generally dive into.

It's a cause.

And I think that's what's driving out people who voted for Biden, people who, there's some, there's a lot of Nikki Haley signs

everywhere in getting five to eight mailers a day.

I mean, millions of dollars.

But New Hampshire sees that.

I think that's pissed a lot of people off, actually.

Why?

I can't say that on the right.

Well, yeah, you can.

Why?

Think of the sheer amount of money that they've spent, and Trump's spent nothing.

And all that money is coming from people that don't,

Democrat special interest groups and stuff like that.

And when you, I actually talked to one person today, five to eight mailers a day, and they're like, I haven't gotten any from any other candidate.

They're literally just trying to buy New Hampshire.

The one thing in New Hampshire,

if you get the sense that New Hampshire, someone's trying to buy New Hampshire,

it makes you angry.

And they were angry.

They're like, the amount of money that they spend for these mailers, the amount of money they spend for the advertisements, I haven't seen any other candidate.

This is not a one-person race, and I'm voting just against that because that's not what I want for president.

They're going to be beholden to all these people.

Wow.

It's nuts.

You know, I think, Tim, you're exactly right.

And

I think that's where Nikki Haley made her biggest mistake.

taking money from the left.

Yeah, I mean, that just seems even if it's establishment Republicans, you know, you can live with that.

I think, you know, people who outwardly want Democrats to win, giving you money, like,

you got to.

Now, most of that money, to be fair to Nikki Haley, went to a super PEC that she can't control.

So it's not necessarily something she could have rejected, but she could have been outspoken about saying, I don't want that money.

I hope that they reject it.

She didn't do that.

She was like more like, oh, well, I got this money.

And you know what?

The only reason Ron DeSantis doesn't get it, doesn't like it, is because he's not getting that money.

Like, that's not a

good approach.

Good, Steve, New Hampshire.

Welcome.

Hi, how are you doing?

Good.

How are you, Steve?

Good.

At midnight, just so notch, they have a population of six.

Oh, yeah, that's right.

They voted, and it was all six for Nikki Haley.

Wow, wow, 100% of the vote.

Yeah,

I'm revising my estimates.

Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that.

No, I won't.

I won't.

But I went the vote quarter past seven

and there were

a moderate turnout.

You know, at that I voted here for twenty years and it's like twenty, you know, it was good.

But what surprised me is like when I went in, I'm an Independent and I had to change to Republican.

And like on the Republican roster, there's like twenty, thirty pages of fifteen, twenty names names on each page.

And then when I had, after I voted, I had to go back and go back to independent.

And there was over 50 pages of independence.

Now, that's great because there's so many independents here that I think that it's good for Trump.

So you don't think that people are switching to become a part of the Republicans who are actually doing some sort of shadow game and they're Democrats.

I haven't seen it.

And what I have seen is that there's people out in front of the polls with write in Joe Biden.

Yeah, that's a big thing.

By the way, we should point out to people, if you're in New Hampshire, you're looking to write in Joe Biden, and this is true, you just have to write him in right under Vermin Supreme.

That's another candidate running.

So you have to find Vermin Supreme and under that.

Really?

Yeah, and Vermin Supreme, by the way, is a candidate known uh he's runs for office a lot he's known for wearing a boot on his head so just look for you look below the person who has a boot on their head and that's where you can write in Joe Biden Vermin Supreme doesn't that sound something like that you would ask for at a dairy queen in hell

I think I'll have the Vermin Supreme sounds good actually

is that value meal with that you guys supersize it and by the way you can write in Joe Biden's name if you're so inclined to do that.

But I,

wow.

Actually, I mean, pulling the lever for one is one thing.

Actually having to write the whole name out, doesn't that give you enough time to think, wow, this is crazy.

This is really Vermin Supreme.

Right.

I mean, Vermin Supreme is a better candidate, let's be honest about it.

Let me go to Annie.

Hello, Annie in Alabama.

Hey there.

How you doing?

Good.

Good.

Put your tinfoil hat on and humor me for just a minute.

I think, you know, all these military-age men coming over the border getting paid, I don't think it's just for votes.

I think they are paid by the UN.

And I honestly think that they're being armed and trained in sleeper cells to go up against Americans this year.

Okay, well, do you have any evidence of that?

No, it's a hunch.

But

when men go to war, they leave women and children at home.

and there's not a whole lot of women and children coming over the border.

Right.

And they're filling up their grocery baskets.

I mean, I see them at the Walmart in Robertsdale where they sit and wait for a bus and they're just, they fill out their baskets full of stuff while we're all struggling, but they just, they don't, they look nefarious to me.

Okay.

Well, thank you, Annie.

This is a good example of a conspiracy theory

that that's just somebody, Annie, thinking, seeing stuff and going, you know what, I think that means.

And there's no evidence of any of that.

No, no.

I mean, it is a, I mean, look,

you're right, does not have any evidence to it, but I will say that a lot of people,

it is reminiscent of a feeling that I do hear often online, right?

Of people who are reaching for explanations because the world doesn't make sense.

That's a problem.

And that's what happens when the world doesn't make sense

and the government or authorities tell you things that also don't make sense, then you have a problem.

And we're having that problem now in Texas.

Amy Coney Barrett voted with the Biden administration, saying that Texas didn't have a right to protect itself.

As did John Roberts, although I don't know that that's worth bringing up at this point.

It's not why we didn't bring it up, but it is a notable.

So you, you know, this isn't this isn't

like any other time in American history,

there is no way to call 10,000, I'm sorry, 10 million people coming over our border anything less than an invasion.

It is the Chinese invasion plan for Russia, how to collapse them.

It's an invasion.

And for Texas to say, you're not protecting the border, you're not doing your job, so we'll do it.

For them not to have the right to protect their own state and their own people

is crazy.

It's crazy.

It makes the Constitution into a suicide pact.

And I'm sorry I haven't heard a good explanation on why that is, why that has to be that way.

So we have Mike Lee coming on in just a few minutes.

We're going to talk about the border.

And we have to have

a real honest conversation because we're approaching times.

We're in constitutional crisis every day on

five, six, ten different things in the news.

I could go through the news of the day and say, constitutional crisis.

This is a constitutional crisis.

This is a constitutional crisis.

And we used to avoid those.

Now it's like we've got somebody printing up new constitutional crisis every day.

I mean, and it's not just from the left.

I think people are

terrified.

How many times have I heard, and I think you've heard this as well, Glenn, people saying in reaction to this SCOTIS ruling, what Texas should do is ignore it.

And like, look, I see the motivation behind that.

I see the argument behind it.

I understand the passion behind it.

But them.

And it's like,

ignoring the system

is another way for chaos to reign.

And

it needs to be solved.

It's a dangerous time.

I don't know.

This is where the Bubba effect comes in.

You know, you add a terrorist strike on top of this, and

people of Texas are going to say, uh-uh, no, no more.

And, you know, while I don't want to become them, I do want to stand up for my country.

And I am at a loss for answers.

I will tell you that

I've had some conversations recently about, okay,

what do we do?

How do we handle this?

What's right?

What's wrong?

And this is the first time in this whole thing that I think

the black and white is more gray

because I can't.

Can you answer that, Stu?

I mean, other than I don't want to become them.

How do you not do the right thing for the

state, the safety, and the

and the republic, not just the state of Texas, the whole republic.

If the federal government won't do what the law says they must do, if they won't do it,

do we just allow it to happen?

Do you know an answer?

Yeah, I mean, look, we dealt with this back when Arizona passed a law to prepare themselves, to protect themselves on the border, and they were overturned by the Supreme Court.

Look,

the strength of the country has always been the Constitution and the process.

And

that's been one of the reasons why we've hung around and the Constitution's hung around for a long time, unlike other countries.

Look, there may be other ways to do these things.

I don't know.

We're going to ask this question to Mike Lee.

Yeah.

I'd love to hear his argument on

Amy Coney Barrett, too.

I mean, there may be a process reason I'm not getting there.

What's her argument outside of just being wrong?

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You know, in reading the arguments of what the Supreme Court said, the federal government was arguing that

the razor wire makes it difficult for the federal government to do its job.

It makes it very dangerous for those people.

And I don't think anybody believes that.

But, okay, so it makes it dangerous for them, and it makes it dangerous for illegals, right?

That's why you put it there.

It is a deterrent.

We have no idea what's coming across our border.

Listen to this.

This came out a couple couple of days ago.

I want you to listen to what

some people who are just down at the border seeing border crosses and asking, who are you?

Where are you from?

What are you doing here?

Listen to this exchange.

If you are smart enough, you would know who I am.

But you are really not smart enough to know who I am.

But soon you're going to know who I am.

Very easy.

Very easy.

Okay, stop.

If you were smart enough, you'd know who I am.

Do we have anybody in Department of Homeland Security, Homeland Security, that is curious at all?

Has anyone run his picture through a database to know who he is?

He sounds Middle Eastern.

You're too stupid to know who I am, but soon

everyone will know who I am.

That sounds like a threat.

Now,

Do we have to allow these people come in to come in?

If the federal government wasn't responding and it was a military that was coming in with uniforms and there were 10 million of them and it was clearly an invasion, and if the government said, Texas, you can't do anything about it,

is that true?

Texas couldn't do anything about it?

When the government fails to do its job, does it mean that that job just isn't done?

Mike Lee is here to answer some of these questions when we come back.

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i will lead and not follow i believe and not doubt i will create not destroy because i'm a force for good i'm a force for god i'm a leader and we can define uh defy the odds i need your help today in understanding the news and where we go from here because if it's if it's not this,

it will be something because we're facing constitutional crisis after constitutional crisis.

And

I'm not sure how to react, but I know there's a lot of people saying

this is out of line.

We should ignore the Supreme Court, but that makes us them.

But what else are you going to do?

First, let's go over what the Supreme Court decided yesterday, Mike.

Okay, so yesterday the Supreme Court issued an order, not an opinion, just a very brief order, undoing an order that was released by the U.S.

Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit on December 19th.

Now, remember, the courts of appeals

are numbered throughout the country.

The Fifth Circuit includes the state of Texas.

And

the

Fifth Circuit on December 19th had issued an order enjoining the Biden administration from taking down barriers put in place

by

the state of Texas.

The state of Texas,

wanting to make sure that

they restore some semblance of the rule of law in their state, decided to put up these barriers along the border.

Say, we don't want to do this.

The Biden administration started taking actions indicating its plans to take down the concertina wire and the other barriers.

So Texas brought suit against the Department of Homeland Security and others in the Biden administration and said, we want an injunction telling them, telling the Biden administration that may not take down these barriers.

The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals on December 19th issued such an injunction, and immediately the Biden administration went to the Supreme Court and filed an emergency application to vacate that injunction.

In other words, to undo it.

And the operative portion of the order from yesterday is just found in a sentence.

It's inclusive of a total of four sentences, but this one is the operative language.

The December 19th, 2023 order of the U.S.

Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit is vacated.

That's it.

Then there's a separate line that says Justice Thomas, Justice Alino, Justice Gorsuch, and Justice Kavanaugh would deny the application to vacate conjunction.

So with that, the Supreme Court of the United States just undid this.

And what this tells us then is that it was Chief Justice Roberts, along with Justice Kagan, Justice Sotomayor, and Justice Jackson, who were in the majority on this.

And that is all we know about their rationale, all we know about what happened.

So all of a sudden, Texas, having won this round of litigation, the previous round of litigation in the Court of Appeals, is now sort of back to square one, being told you lose.

And yet we don't have the analysis as to why or what this means, and everything is in a state of disorder.

So, first of all, can you explain

Barrett's joining the other side?

I mean,

any guess to what she was thinking?

Yeah.

Okay, so all I can do is guess.

All I can do is offer conjecture because there's no analysis.

If I were to guess, I hang on just a second.

Before you go on, is that unusual that there was no analysis?

It's not unusual given the procedural posture in which they find themselves.

In other words, this side of the course docket, the emergency applications docket,

is itself something that the justices have to do as they're doing their other ordinary business, as they're writing opinions in other cases.

And

because of the nature of it, it's a yes or no up or down thing most of the time.

So that part's not surprising.

But it is surprising, given the nature of this dispute and the complexity and urgency of this, that we would have this,

it's at least difficult to figure out what to do.

So if I had to guess as to what her analysis might have been and that of Chief Justice Roberts,

It would be that they reached some kind of conclusion that, you know, we don't want

the courts to be weaponized.

We don't want to be perceived, certainly as justices, as playing only on the team of the political party of the presidents who appointed us.

And therefore,

I, we, speaking, you know, either as Justice

either as Chief Justice Roberts or Justice Barrett, or both of them,

we're going to decide to side with the Democrats on this one so that we don't over-politicize this.

But I really find that difficult to grasp that they would do it in that circumstance.

And yet I don't see a good reason.

I don't see an explanation that makes a lot of sense.

It goes much beyond that.

Because I don't understand why it's a bad thing to have the state of Texas trying to protect the people of Texas from these swarms of people who are pouring across their borders without documentation and destroying property along the way, converting property as if it were their own and destroying it as

they cross in illegally.

I don't understand what the compelling need is or what principle of law would be violated by the state of Texas trying to protect the people of Texas.

Let me ask you something.

The Constitution says that it is the federal government's job to protect the borders,

but they're not doing their job, obviously.

In fact, they're enabling those people trying to come in, and they are enabling drug cartels, drugs coming over, killing our citizens, criminals coming over.

We know terrorists have come over now.

They're enabling those who rape and sell into sex slavery.

I mean, it's bad stuff.

It's not even close.

And what the justices are saying is, Texas, you don't have the right to protect your own borders.

That's our job.

Let me ask you, if a military came over, let's say these 10 million people all had military uniforms,

but

only a few of them had guns.

And it was clear this was an invasion by an army.

And the federal government decided to say, nah,

they can keep crossing in.

Would they have the right to say to Texas or anybody else, you don't have the right to have a militia or,

you know, call up your National Guard and

push these people back?

Is the Constitution a suicide pact?

Certainly not.

And specifically, in that kind of circumstance, it wouldn't be.

There are two separate provisions of the Constitution that tell us this.

One is found in Article 4, Section 4, which says that the United States shall guarantee to every every state a Republican form of government, and on application of a state,

typically the legislature,

shall protect each of them from invasion.

So that's an affirmative obligation by the United States to protect each state from invasion.

Now, there's also

something that defends in the Constitution.

a separate right of the state to stand up for itself upon being invaded.

And that's found in Article Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3,

which is a provision that tells the states a bunch of stuff that they can't do on their own without the consent of Congress, but then contains a carve-out

for circumstances in which a state is actually invaded.

Yeah, but the only difference in one scenario is in war.

The only difference is in these two scenarios is 10 million people are coming over

not in uniform.

that's it.

I mean, it's an invasion.

That's right.

And it's no less of an invasion simply because they're not organized formally as a military.

We don't think of them.

They are not a military.

But it's an invasion nonetheless.

Throughout history, there have been instances of invasions of

many countries around the world.

Some are armed, organized invasions, others are not.

But it's an invasion nonetheless.

They are being invaded by people who don't belong there and people who threaten to subvert the order of things and the rule of law as they enter.

So the fact that there is an invasion and the fact that the state of Texas feels the need to protect its own citizens from this puts Texas, in my view, in a very solid position.

Now, I assume that for the four justices who dissented,

that is

for Justices Thomas, Polito, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch,

that that was their rationale.

We're all still grasping to understand what the rationale of the majority was, other than, as you say, probably reasoned, well, immigration is the thing that is done by the federal government.

and it's not done by the state of Texas, therefore case closed.

But that doesn't answer the question.

It doesn't answer the Article 1, Section 10, or the Article 4, Section 4 question that we just discussed.

And as a practical matter, it leaves the state of Texas in an untenable position.

Okay, so now,

Mike,

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You know, Mike,

there was a guy named Martin Luther King, I know you know,

and

he taught people how to resist peacefully.

And

nobody's teaching that.

Nobody's pushing for that.

Our pastors are all out to lunch.

But there are people now who are saying,

we need to go.

In fact, could you read Tucker Carlson's tweet from yesterday?

I don't have that handy, but I can look for it.

Basically, he says, where are the men of Texas standing up?

Well, the men of Texas standing up.

I don't know exactly what that means, Tucker,

because many of us are standing up and we're speaking out.

At what point

do people

are people justified at all to say, yeah, it makes me kind of like them, but we got to stop this?

So in other words, defying the Supreme Court and just doing it anyway.

I don't like that.

You know,

look,

the rule of law is important to us.

That's the whole reason why Texas is trying to take this action to begin with, is to preserve the rule of law.

And for that reason,

everything

possible needs to be done to comply with the rule of law, even if it means going along with a court order that one doesn't like.

and finding other ways to be persuasive to get it done.

But keep in mind something, Glenn.

The Supreme Court's order from yesterday does not order the state of Texas to do anything.

As I read it, all it says is that they vacate the Fifth Circuit's order from the 19th of December, which had itself enjoined the Biden administration from taking down the barricades.

So there's nothing affirmatively that the State of Texas has to do in order to comply with this order from the Supreme Court.

It just lifts the legal impediment from the Biden administration that had previously told them, don't take down the barricades.

Right.

So, one interesting question is: what exactly is the Biden administration going to do now?

Is the Biden administration really, seriously, with a straight face, are they going to say, yes, cut the wires,

remove all the concertino wire,

and do all that?

Glenn, remember something.

We have seen in the last month

more people pouring across our border unlawfully than has ever been observed in our nearly two and a half centuries of existence as a nation.

And our border patrol agents and everybody else who works with them on this, they're all overwhelmed.

I've been down to the border just in the last few weeks alone.

I lived down on the border in the McCowan area as a missionary for two years.

I know this area well.

Are they really going to say this is where we want

our efforts focused to be going in there, removing barricades, whose sole purpose is to protect the people of the state of Texas and, frankly, even the people who are being human trafficked along the border?

Are they really going to say that's where we want them?

Bring up the wire cutters, stop processing everything else.

Everything else you're doing.

They've already done that, Mike.

They've already done that.

They were cutting the wires in Texas.

I mean,

what makes you think they won't do that?

What?

They were cutting them.

They had to stop for three weeks.

But in the meantime, Texas put down a whole lot more wire.

And they've got more wire now.

I mean, this really would be a massive undertaking.

And if

after the month of December 2023, just last month, are they really going to go back in?

and undertake that huge effort again.

If so, this raises all kinds of other questions.

And if so,

I think this could end up being the very best best thing, the single greatest momentum

producing exercise for the Donald Trump campaign.

Because this is a president of the United States who loves lawlessness if this is truly what he wants to do.

And we've got to make that point loud and clear.

Okay.

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I think it's time that we start to have adult conversations because I hear people talking seriously more and more about secession or going against, in the Texas case, going against the Supreme Court, which makes us them.

And

people ask me all the time, well, then what is the line, Glenn?

And I keep saying, you'll know it it when you see it.

When do you stand up?

Well, you can stand up politically.

You can stand up in March, although nobody is.

You can stand up at, you know, the polls.

I think that's very important.

But Mike,

can you talk a little bit about the difference?

Well, just what this means.

That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute new government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such forms as to them shall seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness.

Prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light or transient causes, and accordingly, all experience has shown that mankind is more disposed to suffer while evils are

sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms of which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariable the same object, invinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to throw off such government and provide new guards for their future security.

I am not saying I don't want this.

I am not pushing for it.

I just, I'm reading the words.

I don't think the time is now by any stretch of the imagination.

But what does that mean, Mike?

And how do you do this and not become everything you despise?

Well, first of all, we do have to remember we still have elections in this country, and there are ways in which we can throw off a government and administration and throw it off, meaning we can elect a different government, one that won't do things like this.

And frankly, it's an action as severe, as self-destructive, and as harmful to the people as this that might well propel

a different election outcome in 2024 than what we had in 2020.

because the American people can see what's happening.

And whether they've read the briefing in this case or not, they know on some level that the U.S.

government, the Biden administration, is relying on the fact that it has access to private lands within 25 miles of the international border

for the purpose of patrolling the border to prevent the illegal entry of aliens.

That was the statutory language that they quoted as a reason why Texas couldn't set up barriers because those barriers would interfere with the Border Patrol's access to this area.

And the American people can see that there's some folly in their relying on that because they are not enforcing the border.

They're removing the barriers from what I can tell, from what appears visible from my vantage point, in a way that makes it easier for the cartels to send the people across the border and get them into the interior of the country.

So as they see that, the political process itself contains a solution.

And whenever that does, I think that's one of the things that we have to take into account when we're cautioned against overthrowing an entire government for light or transient causes.

It's not that this is a light or transient cause, so much as it is that we have means at our disposal of making a change in government,

not amounting to a violent revolution.

Yes.

And we should do that.

And by the way, I want to make sure that

I'm asking you this because you're one of the most reasonable men I know.

You're not for this.

I am not for breaking the country up or anything like that.

I just need to know how to answer.

Why don't we defy the Supreme Court?

You know, because that's what they do.

And it doesn't seem like we have any tools left.

And my answer is because I don't want to be like them.

And that's wrong.

You know it.

You can be angry, as the scriptures say, be angry, but do not sin.

Don't become them.

But things are dicey.

Things are really dicey with everything that's going on.

They are dicey.

And again,

if we're talking about defying the order of the Supreme Court, there's nothing for the state of Texas to defy here.

Okay.

Because

all they've done is they've gotten rid of the order that previously would have

restricted the Biden administration's ability to take down the barrier.

They've now removed that injunction.

So there's nothing for Texas to comply with or to defy.

This is just

now these guys can go in if they want to and start removing the razor wire.

If they do that, as they do that, to the extent they do that, they'll do so to the detriment of their boss, the President of the United States.

And I should mention here, Glenn, it's important for the American people to think about this for a minute.

You have right now ongoing conversations

on Capitol Hill in Washington about a so-called border security deal.

Now, this is a border security deal being pushed by a lot of Democrats as they try to extract votes out of Republicans to support the $106 billion supplemental aid package, most of which goes to Ukraine.

That can't get across the line, so a bunch of Democrats are teaming up with a small handful of Senate Republicans and negotiating border security language.

But this development yesterday, I mean, I had concerns about it prior to this anyway, concerns that I've discussed with you, concerns relating to the fact that the border security crisis right now is not,

as much as our immigration laws are in need of reform and updating and streamlining and making simpler and clearer,

this border security crisis was not caused by a lack of legislation giving the President and his administration authority to enforce the border.

No, not at all.

He's got more than enough tools to do that.

The same laws that are in effect today were in effect when Trump was president, when he brought this border crisis that he faced down to essentially nothing.

He got rid of it.

So why in the Sam Hill are we negotiating with an administration under terms that would suggest to the American people that the border crisis is based on a lack of legislative authority to end it?

It is not.

And why would we trust that if we negotiate this language with the Biden administration and it becomes law, that they'll enforce this any better, any more faithfully than they have enforced existing law.

That's a real question that I think we've got to wrestle with.

I would urge you to call your Senate and your House members and say

no negotiation.

Maybe we release money after

and we can release it slowly over the year, but no, I'm not interested.

I'm not interested in any any Democrat deal

with their president acting the way he is on the border and even defying the blue states, you know, the mayors of New York and Chicago and Detroit and everywhere else.

Everybody is starting to feel this now.

And I think, Mike, you're right.

This Supreme Court decision and what the administration does might be

a real eye-opening experience for people who are independents.

Thank you so much, Mike.

I appreciate it.

God bless you.

Thank you, Clinton.

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Let's go to Alan in Maine.

Hello, Alan.

Hi, Glenn.

You've been taking my call.

You bet.

It's a great opportunity to talk to you.

You've been bringing up the southern border, and up here in Maine, we have been struggling to get anybody to bring up this conversation right now.

We have over 300 illegal Chinese Grow operations up here in Maine.

I'm sorry, I'm a little nervous, Glenn.

Oh, don't worry about it.

It's only just you and me and 10 million others.

I know.

You're just my hero.

Thank you.

Yeah, we have one place up here called the Maine Wire.

They're an online newspaper.

They brought it to us, our attention in the state of Maine.

And they're only ones, not the Bangor Daily, not the Portland Press, which are biggest newspapers.

They don't even want to touch it.

Glenn, these people

are growing so much marijuana.

It's in the millions of dollars.

This is all going back to China, back to the Communist Party, which is funded Russia, which is funding Iran.

And there's up to 300 of them.

Right now in the state of Maine, Glenn, we have a house crisis.

We have an energy crisis.

I mean, this morning they're talking about getting rid of natural gas up here in Maine.

Or yesterday it was two below zero.

I mean it was two below zero, Clint.

These people are really putting the horse before the cart.

I mean, in every situation, but 300 homes in the city of Maine, they're up to $300,000, $400,000 homes.

We're not talking little shacks or trailers.

We're talking nice suburbs.

They're doing it

in the woods.

They're doing it where people can't see them doing it.

And if you think they're not...

taking this money and buying guns up here in Maine and loading their houses full of weapons and full of anything that they can make money with, you We're being foolish because all this money is going right back to China.

And what makes me so angry is that we have a woman in office up here in Maine.

Her name's Janet Mills, and she is just

closing her eyes and just pretending not to see it.

And it's driving,

we have a crisis called fentanyl, but now we have a crisis that's affecting everybody, and

that's housing.

I mean, even up here in Maine, you have tent cities, things that we don't even see up here.

This used to be the way life should be.

Now

it's just like every other state garden.

Like everything you've warned us about, it's happening.

And what scares us is that no one wants to deal with it.

We have state troopers.

There's houses, Glenn, that are driving up light bills, up to $20,000 light bills.

You can't tell me that CMP, which is our local power supplier,

or any of them, aren't seeing these giant bills.

They don't care because they're all making money.

They're all making money.

I mean, the electric bills up here going on average are up to $500 to $600 a month.

And then you have people next door that are driving their electric bills up to $20,000, up to $30,000.

It's outrageous because you have electricians that are hooking these houses up with giant, giant meter boxes that can handle the power.

And

we're all supposed to not care.

I just wanted your audience to hear this because it's getting, it's out of control.

Even up here in the Sticks, up here in Maine, we are fighting it tooth and nail Glenn and it just thank you to Steve Robinson which which gives us the main wire I mean he is online and like you said before there is real ghettos and he's being put in a digital ghetto like you said and it's just I keep this conversation going Glenn we love you so much up here in Maine thanks

you know I've heard the story about your son and stuff and it's just so it helps all of us to let you let us know that you're real that you're just going through the same things that everybody else, Glenn, you know, we're all dealing with it, and we just love you so much.

Thank you.

God bless you.

God bless you.

God bless you.

Thank you, Alan.

I hope we have a chance to meet sometime.

Although I doubt I'm ever going to get to Maine because you have to go through New York and New England to get there.

We got heaven.

Yeah.

God bless you, Alan.

Thank you.

Lori in Nebraska.

Hello, Lori.

Hi, Glenn.

Thank you for taking my call.

You bet.

So my husband and I live in rural Nebraska.

And our nearest shopping center is a Walmart about 10 miles away.

And over the course of the past year, we've noticed a lot of very strange activity.

And I've actually been followed twice now in the last year in the tractor supply store and the Walmart.

And there's groups of young men, you know, aged 20s, 30s, and they just wander the store.

And they don't have a shopping cart.

They don't have a shopping battle.

They're not buying anything.

And I don't know, we don't know what they're doing exactly, but there's just been a lot of strange activity going on.

I've been approached in the park.

It's it has gotten to the stage where um

my husband doesn't want me to shop in Crete, Nebraska alone.

Are these

gangs?

Are these

local gangs?

They're migrants.

They're migrants.

My husband's European and he knows a lot of languages.

Yeah.

And he doesn't he's like, I don't recognize any of these languages that they're speaking.

And they'll they'll kinda they'll stand around the front entrance and they like to say they don't have a shopping cart.

They're not buying anything.

I don't know what they're doing.

I guess it's maybe a meetup place.

But it's, like I said, I've been followed twice around the store.

I've been approached in parking lots.

I usually just get right back in the car and drive away.

But this is in Nebraska, and

it didn't used to be this way two years ago.

And we're not,

we, it's just,

I talk to a lot of people behind closed doors in the community.

They see the exact same thing, and people are very concerned.

And I don't normally get scared.

I know.

But

I went grocery shopping, I think, six times in 2023.

And my husband just does it now.

I will tell you that

my wife says exactly the same thing.

Lori, can you hang on?

I'd like to get you a burner launch, a burna launcher.

It is

a non-lethal weapon.

It looks just like a gun, but it's kinetic rounds and then tear gas.

And my wife doesn't want to pull a gun unless she's absolutely sure.

And she's been in situations where I wish she would have had her gun in the glove box.

This one she'll carry

and she would use if she's in danger.

I'm going to send one to you so

you are safe.

God bless you.

Thank you.

20% markup, we should say.

We'll buy one from Verna and we'll sell it to you for the markup.

Jaylee, is that what we were?

I was going to give it to her for free, but yeah, come on, make a profit.

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Hello, America.

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I want to talk to you about a couple of things.

First, we're going to touch on the New Hampshire primaries.

We'll have full coverage tomorrow, what's going on, but we'll look at some of the polls and would love to talk to you, if you've gone out and voted yet, what you're seeing, what you're experiencing, how does it feel compared to other

days of primaries?

Because effectively, the primary could be over with New Hampshire.

I mean, I don't think that Nikki Haley is going to quit.

I think she's, I mean, why would she?

But, you know,

if it's a cleaning of everybody's clock tonight by Donald Trump, I think that the message is very, very clear.

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let me start with what's happening in New Hampshire today.

Stu, can you give us an update and a read on everything?

Sure.

Obviously, the primaries on both sides going on in sort of weird fashion where the Democrats have a primary, but it is non-binding and no delegates will be awarded for it.

And Joe Biden is not on the right.

Why would you go out and vote if you were a Democrat?

It's interesting.

I mean,

I would say reason number one is there's a lot of people telling you to do it.

They're spending a lot of money on the ground, mailers, signs out in front of the polling places saying, please write in Joe Biden.

But who's doing that?

That's not the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party and Joe Biden are the ones.

Yeah, they are the ones that said, basically, we don't want the New Hampshire primary to exist.

We're going to defranchise, disenfranchise the voters in two entire states by just canceling their voice.

Right.

And of course, that's democracy, as you know.

That's how you execute democracy.

And you do execute democracy that way, but not in the way of...

Hitler did it.

He was voted in.

I just want to remind you.

So

you have a situation there with the Democrats where

Every indication is that the people in the White House want this to happen

without saying they want it to happen.

They're going in back channels and

underlings and all these different ways to basically get the people in New Hampshire to not embarrass him by having Dean Phillips or Marianne Williamson win the primary.

When you look at things and you're like, hey, that's hope and change.

That's what you're looking for.

Something that's kind of buried and kind of going backroom alleys.

So it's pathetic on every stance.

The interesting part of that is that because of this sort of late surge of telling independent voters, most voters in New Hampshire are independent.

There's only a small percentage that are Republicans and Democrats.

Most are independent.

And that allows them, if they're independent, to go to either primary.

The main thrust of the importance here as far as the Republican primary is that these voters who are Democratic-leading independents would be likely Haley voters and instead are being encouraged by the Democrats to vote in the Democratic primary to vote for Joe Biden.

This is hurting Haley and not helping her in the final moments here.

However, all intents and purposes, Trump's big victory in Iowa,

combined with everything else going on, seems to have him increasing his lead.

And I'd like to ask you this question, Glenn, and get your impression on it, because you figure maybe 5% of the vote is going to go to somebody else.

You know, straggler votes for other candidates that are still out there.

But say there's 95% of the vote that's going to go to Haley or Trump today.

What percentage does Haley need to get to to

be able to coherently argue she should continue?

Like if she loses

50 to 45, is that?

Yeah, I was going to say, I think within five points of striking, that would tell a story.

Over 10, I don't think you really have a story.

Over 20, I mean, it's a joke.

Over over.

Over over.

Right.

So, you know,

yeah, because you're at a situation there where what's the argument?

Now, I think the only argument for Haley is the thing that we've talked about for months, which is this sort of idea of a two-tiered primary.

In case of fire break glass, you've got to have somebody that

has some delegate count

in case they throw him in jail.

Okay.

If they throw Trump in jail and he's not able to run, I think he is able to run.

Nowhere in the Constitution says you cannot run a campaign from jail.

And it's been done before.

Yep, it has.

But,

you know, I think there's a lot of Republicans,

you know, the Mitch McConnells of the world that wouldn't mind seeing that happen.

But then what happens?

What happens to those delegates if he doesn't run from jail?

And

I mean, picture a scenario where we get,

I don't know, two-thirds of the way through the primary process, and Haley decides to hang on and just run a bare bones campaign where she stays on the ballots and she does interviews here and there, but doesn't, isn't running a full-fledged, expensive campaign.

And each one of these states goes in and each one of these states will have a Trump protest vote.

A bunch of people will say, I want anyone but Trump.

This will happen in each state.

And maybe it's 20%, maybe it's 15%, maybe it's 30%

given the state.

And in those states, Nikki Haley racks up delegates where at the end of this process, Trump has, I don't know, 80% of the delegates that have been awarded so far, and Haley has 20%.

Just throwing this out there.

Then something happens with Donald Trump in the legal realm, or God only knows what it is.

Let's not even speculate as to what it is, but something happens where Trump all of a sudden maybe should either is being

legally prevented from being the nominee or the party steps in and does something to prevent him from being the nominee.

Who knows?

If the party steps in to stop him, it's unlikely.

I mean, look, this is Donald Trump party.

Let's be honest about it.

There's no longer any point in talking about the quote-unquote establishment in in the Republican Party.

Donald Trump is the establishment in the Republican Party.

That's okay.

It's different than the old establishment, which is why people are not.

But the old establishment is still holding very crucial keys of power.

Mitch McConnell, for example.

Okay, so there are, that definitely does exist.

If that happens and Trump, for some reason, can't run, God forbid it's a health problem and he just decides he doesn't want to run.

You know, whatever it is.

Whatever.

God forbid.

So you have, then you go to a place where this is all of a sudden open again,

and Nikki Haley has 20% of of the delegates, is able to be the only person on the ballot, and the rest in the remaining states, she increases that percentage.

Again, this is long shot, crazy territory, but because of what we're looking at, it's something to truly be considered.

And there has to be a backup plan if something happens, considering they've gotten

coming after him with

91 accounts here.

Can they not reassign, cannot Trump people

if, let's say, he's unable to run?

He's hit by a bus.

Surprise, Surprise, surprise, it was a Nikki Haley bus, but

he's hit by a bus and he can run, okay?

And she's very sorry about it.

If that happens, I believe the delegates can switch

their pledge to another candidate.

And

Trump's

would not go to anybody, I think, except the governor of Florida.

I think it's possible, right?

And this is a key word that you would hear in this situation often would be suspended.

All these people are suspending their campaigns.

They are not ending them.

So they could theoretically unsuspend their campaigns and all of a sudden be candidates again.

But again,

if you go into

the

process there

when you have 30% of the delegates already, you don't need to win that many of the Trump delegates to your side.

There could be plenty of people in those groups that would do all sorts sorts of things.

Who knows?

Trump would control them.

My understanding is Trump controls them all the way.

But again, if something happens to him, who knows how that plays out?

Unknowns, unknowns, unknowns.

When you have unknowns, you have insurance policies.

And if you are Nikki Haley, you can make, I'm sure she can make a coherent argument in her head that just rack up delegates and see what happens.

What else am I going to do?

Does she have a future in the Republican Party?

I think the answer to that is limited.

It's a limited future if she has one.

Maybe she does.

I mean, maybe she could become a senator.

I think she'd make a great senator.

Yeah, it's not impossible.

But where Ron DeSantis has a clear incentive to get out of the race, endorse Trump and say, I'm with you guys.

I'm not messing this up for you.

I don't know that Nikki Haley has that same incentive.

And now that she's alone, maybe she convinces herself to go on if she gets 40.

If she loses 60-40 in this primary tonight, that's a pretty devastating defeat in a one-on-one race.

But she got 40% of the vote in a state.

She might get 30% in South Carolina.

It's quite plausible.

These aren't huge wins, but they will give her delegates

and give her an argument to continue.

Again, I just want to be the clock on the wall that just says, cuckoo, this is not normal.

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my wife is yelling at me now uh I mean, I'm, I, look at me.

I just look like I'm maybe a day and a half away from death.

I looked at myself in the mirror the other day, and like I'm getting these dark circles and everything under my eyes.

And I'm like, dude, I don't know what's happening with you, but that is an inaccurate reflection in the mirror.

These mirrors,

a lot of them are from China, they don't reflect reality anymore.

It's not what I feel like on the inside because I look at the mirror and I'm like, holy cow, you look bad.

You want to sit down for a while?

Can I call you a doctor?

But one of the things is I have to,

I'm watching TV now

holding my eyelids up

because I have this thing.

Like clockwork orange?

Yeah, I think so.

Yeah.

Like if I could get that thing from 1984 that forced the eyes open and I didn't, I would be fine with it.

It's like, I can, it's like I'm seeing everything in cinematic detail.

You know, it's a very, very long, but narrow

letter box.

You're letterboxing everything now because I can't keep.

I don't know.

I thought it was from fatness.

I said to the doctor, he said, open your eyes.

And I said, I can't open my eyes any more than this.

And he's like, no, come on, open your eyes.

And I'm like, I can't open my eyes any more than this, Doc.

And he's like, wow.

And I said, I know.

It's because I'm fat and all that weight is pushing down on my eyes.

He's like,

no, that's not what it is.

And I'm like, oh, wow, something not having to do with being fat, really?

So I have to go have the surgery.

And I was convinced because he said some people that the muscles detach or whatever from their eyelids.

I don't know.

I wasn't really listening.

And

so then I went to try to find a doctor.

And it's like a plastic surgery thing.

And I'm like, wait, I don't want plastic.

I don't want to look like Joe Biden.

You know what I mean?

Right.

And it's a plastic surgery thing.

And I thought it was like, well, because of the muscles and everything.

And it might be, but it's done by a plastic surgeon.

So, I'm immediately skeptical that I'm going to come out looking like, I don't know, the cat lady.

I don't think that's how plastic surgery works.

Don't know.

I'm pretty sure that's the overuse of plastic surgery that

gets you to the

cat lady situation.

I don't know if they have to cut like part of my eyelid off so they don't have, like, maybe I won't have eyelashes.

I don't know.

But everything I look at now, it's like letterbox, and I see it's fuzzy on the, it's fuzzy on the frame because of my eyelashes.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

You know how you like squint and you get that blur?

So I have letterbox.

I'm missing a lot of life right now.

Because it's, I feel bad, honestly.

I don't know.

Do Asians have this problem?

Is everything in, I don't know.

I don't, you know,

because I'm squint.

I mean, you know, I'm not, I can't open them all the way up.

Mm-hmm.

That's, yeah, I I don't, I don't know exactly how that would work.

Yeah, I don't know either.

I feel bad if that is the case.

Never thought that was the case.

But if it is the case, because I'm experiencing it right now, I feel bad for continents of people.

Yes.

Okay.

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah, no, I don't know.

Again,

you are technically a doctor in one very strange way, but I wouldn't say you're necessarily a doctor.

No.

The eyes.

No.

No, I'm really not.

I'm really not.

Especially now, I couldn't read the literature.

Like, I couldn't read like, okay,

you scissors, pull your eyelid out and snip here.

I don't know.

Uh-huh.

Uh-huh.

There's a lot there to be, to be learned.

A lot.

I would say you wouldn't want Glenn operating on you.

I just want you to know that

if I come back looking like Joe Biden at some point, it was not my intention.

I don't have a problem with aging or anything else.

It was not my intention.

It was not.

No.

Do you think anybody goes in and says, I'd like to look a little more like Joe Biden?

I don't think so.

No, I don't think there's a lot of so either.

And it was funny because, you know, you remember, remember, what was the show, Parks and Wreck,

with Amy Poehler?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And remember that Joe Biden was like the heartthrob of her?

Oh, yeah.

She was like the idol and like, you know, partially politically, but like,

she seemed to have the hots for Joe Biden.

Yeah, well, I don't understand it, and I don't want to meet

more like that.

Was it a thing like in the 70s?

People are like, you know, Joe Biden's hot.

We all know Hunter does really well with the ladies that he pays.

Really well.

And I think

I've noticed the more you pay women for designated service like that, probably the better you do.

Well, maybe

I'm not really sure.

I just know I don't want to look like him.

I don't want to look like Nancy Pelosi.

I don't want to come out like,

you know, you'll raise your eyebrows and your mouth closes i i want to stay away from any of that yeah the nancy pelosi look's not a good one either

no have you really seen anybody who has had plastic surgery and you're like that's a good look well i think the point of it would be you don't know right like if if it's good plastic surgery you probably don't know like i i'd imagine a lot of these you know celebrities hollywood celebrities are like wow they still look good and they're 62 and you're like well they probably had some stuff done but they've done it done by people who know what they're doing right it's not like or they knew when to say stop or i think that's a big part too Yeah, yeah.

Right?

Like, the target needs to be like your age minus eight and not your age minus 35.

And I feel bad.

Like, I really do feel bad.

Have you watched Monarch, the

show on, I don't know, Netflix or Amazon?

What dage period?

How many fancy hats are in it?

No, fancy hats.

It's Monarch.

It's Godzilla.

It's a series on Godzilla.

No, I've not seen it.

And

what's his name?

Goldie Hahn's husband.

Russell?

Yeah, yeah.

Kurt Russell.

Kurt Russell.

Thank you.

I mean,

he's still, he's in this, you know, he's in this show, and he's got to be, I don't know,

75,

and it doesn't look like he's had any plastic surgery, and he can get away with it.

But you don't see Goldie Hahn on, I mean, if you're a woman, it's like, yeah, we don't want to look at that anymore.

Isn't that bad?

I mean, that's really bad.

Yeah,

I mean, unless you're like Dame Judy Dench, you know, she's aged gracefully, and, you know, you're not objectifying Dame Judy Dench at all.

I don't know about that.

I think some people definitely have the hots.

Really?

For good old Dame Judy Dench.

You know, if they had the Hots for Joe Biden, I mean, why not?

Sure.

By the way, Kurt Russell's 72.

72.

72 years old, looking good?

Well, I mean, for 72.

I mean, when I was growing up, 70 was like, okay, you're going to die at any time.

I mean, life expectancy still is right around 80.

Yeah.

Well, but I remember like, you know, when I was little, like, everybody was dying like at 65.

It was like, okay.

Oh, grandpa's retiring night night.

You know, start somebody, somebody start digging in the backyard.

Grandpa just hit 65.

And it's not that way anymore.

Not that way anymore.

Poor grandpa.

That was sad for grandpa.

This is probably something stations you should edit out before

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Who made that decision?

That's a really

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So

it's one of those shows where

I've kind of given up, you know, and it's like, eh, whatever.

And those

are always fun.

Yeah, oh, yeah.

I know I'm too.

I know I'm having fun, Glenn.

Yeah, I know you are.

I know you are.

Well, it started as a very difficult day today, you know?

Yeah, I would say, would you say, Glenn, the country's a bit on edge?

I think it is.

I think that's safe to say.

Yeah.

That's what I detect.

I detect the country as a whole just a tad on the edge.

Maybe just,

you know, they're okay.

I mean, let's just say,

you know, if the United States was an apartment building

uh

about 80 of its citizens would be on the ledge looking down at the traffic right now you're right and longingly right longingly at the hyundai sonata right riding below them right and there's not really anybody down there with a bullhorn uh that's saying anything but i don't know give it a whirl might be better

just don't block traffic if you can land on the sidewalk yeah so no, it does seem that way.

And I think it's interesting.

I mean, I think this is a, for the conservative audience, probably a good day generally, right, right?

Like, I think

it's a good day.

The overwhelming favorability for Donald Trump and the Republican voting populace is, I think, well reflected here and probably will be reflected tonight.

You never know.

I mean, there are some reports on the ground for New Hampshire.

Oh, actually, everyone's showing up.

And it's going to, you know, we hear this every single election.

I I don't expect anything out of the ordinary

today.

And I am, it is interesting to think about this process as a whole, though, which is weird, right?

Like, the fact that we go to Iowa and then New Hampshire and then,

like,

it's just over.

Like,

no one in Texas certainly is voting in this primary in a way that it will likely matter.

You know, everyone, you know, and that's just the state I'm in.

Every 48 other states are saying, yeah, like we didn't really get a voice here.

It's a weird thing.

I actually believe this.

I don't think we should do it like this anymore.

And I'm with you.

Are you?

Yeah.

Because I don't know if I'm in the majority or not on this one, but like, I honestly think the contest we're talking about, okay, is a national contest.

The fact that you can't figure out how to win a national contest for the primary is a problem.

Like we can all act like winning Iowa by itself is really important or New Hampshire is really important, impressive, and it is, but it's a different ball game, right?

The rules are different.

The things you do are different.

But here's the problem with that.

First of all, you are not a dictator, and you can't make all the states do it the way you want to do.

If I can be like Joe Biden, I can do that.

Well, okay, yes.

But the other thing is, it will keep people out that don't have massive war chests.

You know, I don't know about that, though.

Let me push back against that a little bit.

Number one, it's really, really hard to buy a national primary or let's call it a regional primary.

Maybe you do, you break it into four regions and do four different days.

But like it would be hard to buy that because it's too expensive for everyone.

It's no longer difficult to buy one of these early states because there's so much money flowing into them.

So now you kind of do in a way push out smaller candidates.

I know there's, you know, you get to go to all the counties and all that stuff and there's something to that.

But like,

you're not going to do that in the general election.

It's a different skill set that's important and can be important in certain states.

But I would argue, Glenn, you know,

with social media the way it is now, with access to media the way it is now, it's not the same as 1954.

Yeah,

I agree with you.

But I mean, you know, let me play the devil's advocate here.

I mean, I'd feel bad for Iowa.

I mean, who would go to Iowa then?

Every four years, people show up and they're like, hey, you know what?

I'm going to.

Every hotel is sold out.

I'm going to solve it.

Every corn dog is sold.

Yes, I know, I know.

That's true.

And it would not be as, I mean, some people would go,

but

you're right.

Just like.

Again, I'd like to remind this is one of those shows where

we're offending everybody.

We've given up.

Yeah.

We've given up.

But like, I think with the access to social media, more than ever, you have an opportunity to spread your message at low cost.

And And honestly, like this process

is getting us

the bootstrapped candidate, like, I don't know, Mitt Romney,

the bootstrapped candidate, like Donald Trump, a multi-billionaire?

So you're making good points.

The guy who got hundreds of millions of dollars from China is now the president of the United States.

You at least have a chance to see the candidates and meet the candidates, and they have a chance to meet and see and hear you.

But I'm not in Iowa.

I'm not in New Hampshire.

I've met them all.

I've heard tons about them.

Okay.

Right.

Yeah.

I'm not saying I've actually physically met them, but like, you know, they were talking, I was still listening to some interview today and they're like, yeah, you know, I, you know, Joe Biden didn't come here for the primary, but, you know, he's been running since 1972.

So we, you know, all of my relatives have met him six and seven times.

All right.

Like, I guess that's one way to win, but like, it's not reality.

You're, you're, you're not.

talking these candidates aren't going to meet the everyday voter six or seven times in new Mexico or North Carolina, which are also important states.

I'm just saying that show you can put together the same type of organization that can win a general election to win a primary.

And using the internet is a great idea, especially now that we have no misinformation and the government is just going to make sure that all voices are heard that, you know, need to be heard.

That's true.

I mean, like, I understand that, but I don't think that

that is just as applicable during a general election campaign.

This is the thing I hate about some certain certain sports where baseball is my ultimate example of this, is where you have to go through.

I just hate America's past.

I'm just going to hit this real quick thing, and I know Glenn's not going to understand it, but for you, the audience, you go through the entire year needing five starters, right, to get through 162 games.

Then you get into a playoff series, and it's a three-game series, and you only need three starters.

It's like a totally different build of your team to get through this.

Now, this might sound a little bit like someone whose team has lost multiple short series in a row.

So I would just throw that out the window for a second.

But my point is, like

the person who can perform well in a national or at least regional primary is likely the per the candidate that will perform well in a general election where they're doing the same thing, not a totally different thing that they're doing in one small state where they don't need any money and they don't need to raise the money and they can go door to door and meet Bob and Karen and everyone else who's going to be at the voting booth.

I just don't know the problem fishing thing.

And I'd like to have a voice in it, too.

Right.

But the voice of California, which nobody's ever going to California.

And I mean, they'd be stabbed to death.

Not enough Secret Service for people to go campaign in California, but that's a different story.

But let's just use California as an example.

There's nobody weirder than the people in California right on the coast, right?

Okay.

I mean,

you have to, I mean, a candidate should be exposed to them so they can go,

Holy crap, we've got to do something about those people out in California.

Okay.

And the only ones that that are probably more weird are the ones in Hawaii.

So there's a good reason to take a star off a flag, maybe even two.

A president won't know that unless he goes out and actually sees for himself because he'd be like, you know, the Golden State, it's nice.

I've seen it on TV.

Baywatch was great.

You know, it was.

You know, I think.

It would, I will say this, if you had this possibility, you'd have different, interesting, different things pop up.

For example, what we have in Iowa, people go there, they talk about ethanol and farm policy, and we get all these updates.

Like, what about like pooper scooper policy in California?

Yeah.

How do you get the poop off the streets?

You got to have the president.

That's a job only the president can do.

Right.

That's true.

It's got to be a nationalized issue.

But wouldn't it be fun instead of seeing people go to the Iowa State Fair, they're just going to walk around the streets of LA just with a pooper scooper in a plastic bag and just picking up human feces and putting it in.

I would like that.

That would be, that's the type of door-to-door retail campaigning I want.

If we turn this whole thing around and we look at candidates that have already won and we go back into the booth and say, which candidate should have to now spend his whole time just picking up the poop on the streets in California,

I mean, I'd show up at the polls.

I think a lot of people would show up.

I think there'd be a higher turnout for that one.

I'd watch where I stepped when I walked toward the polls.

But yes,

I'd show up.

I'd show up to see that happen.

See, I feel like this would be an interesting change to consider.

Like if you had a north, east, west, south four days over four weeks in a month, where it's not, you know, like it's nice to have a little bit of the winnowing process, I think, but like prove that you can do something

before

you have to do it in a bigger venue, right?

Do the thing you're supposed to, don't do a totally different thing and show I can win in a couple of small states.

Do you like Super Tuesday is a good example of that.

If you can win on, if you can do really well on Super Tuesday you're showing something that's similar to what you're going to need to accomplish in November no winning in Iowa is not similar to what you're going to do in in in November I'm sorry it's a totally different thing well little Jimmy Muckenfutch who was just running to be president because he was trying to raise enough money for children without eyelids doesn't get a chance because Jimmy doesn't have enough money for even a regional campaign.

Oh my gosh.

And Jimmy was running for office?

He was running for office.

He wanted to run for office off.

He wanted to run for office.

He took him out of the process.

You took him out.

And now all those people that were born without eyelids, they're not going to have any eyelids.

I mean, how dry their eyes are going to be?

They're going to be very dry.

Very dry.

And they may have to have your eye surgery at some point.

Yeah, well, no, they would, you know, maybe I could give them some of my eyelids because I apparently have too much.

Too much eyelid.

Yeah.

That's a big goal.

Or lazy eyelid.

I don't know what it is.

Whatever it is.

I would like,

if you happen to be someone in america who doesn't happen to live in iowa or new hampshire would like to have some opinion as to what happens in this race how about we rotate so like yeah every time there's three new states you never know

i mean i think that's better than what we do now

i think there's a thing where like the structures are so well built in these states you know everyone knows how to do it and like there's a game plan that that's why i think it keeps happening so you want let's say, we just say, hey, let's just roll the dice.

And the first three primaries are Oregon, Washington State, and California.

And I think rolling the dice would be a good way of doing it.

I think you try to capture some element of what the party would look like or what the electorate would look like.

Yeah, okay.

So rolling the dice might be a little bit different.

Because I wouldn't want California, Oregon, and Washington.

I wouldn't want any of them separately deciding who the president was going to be.

Why?

Just

have a primary day.

We all just know when it's coming.

It's, I don't know, March 1st.

And everyone goes on March 1st and you just go and you vote wherever you are, just like the actual election.

And what about the cast their votes for their candidates?

You get

a few more veterans that lost their legs and can't make it.

You want to just take the

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They're going to fill them out for a while.

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Voters are coming out now.

I guess

what I'm hearing is that the poll numbers are light.

I don't know if that's true,

but it is at some.

Let me go to Sue in New Hampshire.

How were the crowds at the polls?

They were almost non-existent.

Is that unusual?

Yeah.

When I pulled in, I thought, well, maybe this is because the Democrats are not voting

because there was hardly anybody there.

Yeah.

Were the Republicans there or?

Yeah.

I mean, while I was riding through town, I saw a truck with a Trump flag and an American flag on it.

Yeah.

So I think they're out there.

Yeah, okay.

Sue, thank you.

Thank you for going out and voting today.

Carol in New Hampshire, what's your experience?

Did you vote yet?

Oh, hi, Glenn.

Yeah, I live in a really rural mountain small area, and we vote in a little tiny school.

And I actually thought I was in the wrong place.

I saw no signs.

I saw nothing.

going on.

It was weird.

I got in.

There was hardly anybody there.

And I left.

And around here in this area in the mountains I haven't seen a lot of signs which normally you do like where I grew up in Ohio but the few signs I saw were Haley

well she's you know she's

nervous yeah she's spending an awful lot of money up there it's interesting I've heard this from reporters

area I get a post office box I had nine flyers for Nikki Haley the other day.

She's spending a fortune.

She's spending in that a fortune.

I mean, it's her last stink, basically.

A bunch of reporters have said the same thing.

They're just not seeing

people have been there year after year after year for primary after primary, and they are not seeing the lawn signs, the art signs that they normally would see.

There's no energy.

I mean,

is this because

Biden

disenfranchised so many people?

Is he suppressing the vote?

I think so.

Is that what's happening?

I do think so.

I think it's really weird that you would go into a place and you've gone there over and over and over again, you're not seeing any signs, you're not, it's not marked.

I mean, that's a problem.

But let's make sure that doesn't happen

in November.

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