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Welcome to the program.

It is Tuesday, and what a Tuesday it is.

We've got a couple of things.

First of all, the New York Times has issued a warning

that America really needs to understand.

The New York Times is coming out against Donald Trump.

I know, I know.

And they say in the op-ed, you know, paraphrasing, that they've, you know,

they took a fair and balanced look at Donald Trump, you know, in the first time, first time around.

But he has changed, and now he is dangerous.

And Americans

should know that.

Compass is a complete shock to me from the New York Times.

We'll go through that.

Oh, oh, and

some might say this is how it begins, but I'm not one of those.

Guess who's commenting on how

important this next election is and how she's concerned.

She just doesn't see, you know, light at the end of the tunnel.

It's, yeah, Michelle Obama.

Michelle Obama is dipping her toe in just to talk about the primaries a little bit.

Quite fascinating.

We begin there in 60 seconds.

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at Blaze, theblaze.com that

the Biden campaign has brought a lot of reporters in to their campaign headquarters to, well, have an

off-the-record conversation with the top political reporters and editors.

And they brought him down to campaign headquarters in Wilmington, Delaware.

And those journalists and editors met with top officials in the campaign,

including the advisors and the strategists and even the Biden campaign manager.

And the purpose of the meeting was to review media coverage and correct what the campaign believes they're getting wrong.

And

that sounds normal.

Doesn't that sound normal, Stu?

That's journalism, Glenn.

The first thing they teach you, day one, journalism school is always take meetings with officials that you're supposedly covering and let them come to you and tell you what you should be writing.

That's how you do the job.

Yeah, it is journalism 101.

I think people forget that.

But they met with the journalists from the New York Times, Washington Post.

The campaign plans to meet with reporters from Reuters, Bloomberg, NPR, Fox News, The Wall Street Journal, NBC News, ABC, and others in the coming day.

I would imagine we're not one of the others that they're mentioning here.

But apparently, according to the campaign, it has been very productive, very productive,

because

they did point out that...

not only the White House, but then not just the campaign, but Biden himself has been very frustrated with the media's coverage of the economy.

And they're especially concerned about the airtime that polls are giving,

given, because it shows Biden losing to Donald Trump.

And

Biden in his campaign told the New York Times and other they believe the media should dedicate more time to his narrative.

and

also talked about Trump and how he represents an existential threat to democracy.

Now, I haven't heard that last one from any of those guys.

But in a completely unrelated story, the New York Times has come out with a warning about Donald Trump in 2024.

They sure have, Glenn.

And this is

devastating for the president, former President Trump.

I would assume he's probably going to withdraw from the entire nomination process today.

This is bone crushing.

It's bone crushing.

This is not Glenn.

And you might think, well, what an op-ed from one of their writers.

No, this is the editorial board.

So that is

a group of

independent

journalists whose, and I'm quoting the New York Times, whose views are informed by expertise,

research, debate, and certain long-standing values.

And

that's why we should listen to them.

We know the New York Times is the paper of record, all the news that's fit to print, and they found it to be incredibly important

for you to know that they are issuing officially.

Glenn, and if you happen to be related to the Trump campaign, you may want to turn this off because just hearing this is going to crush you, but they are issuing an official warning about Donald Trump in 2024.

Now, this is not the emergency broadcast system, but it would sound a little like this if we were under attack,

you know, and we're following this

tone now with official information from the New York Times.

And I, if I may, just read it verbatim because this is so devastating.

Powerful.

At At the outset of this election year, with Donald Trump leading the race to be the Republican presidential nominee, Americans should pause to consider what a second Trump term would mean for our country and the world and to weigh the serious responsibility this election places on their shoulders.

By now, most American voters should have no illusions about who Mr.

Trump is.

Now,

some could say

many of

the same things here about Joe Biden,

but

I just don't think most American voters should have

any illusions about who Mr.

Biden is.

You live in your illusions on who Mr.

Biden is, but let's talk about Donald Trump.

During his many years as a real estate developer and television personality, then as president and as a dominant figure in the Republican Party, Mr.

Trump demonstrated a character and a temperament that render him utterly unfit for high office.

Oh my God.

As a TV host, as a TV host.

Yeah.

Now, it's interesting to hear about the

all-important character of the individual.

For instance,

you know, he was a real estate developer and television personality, but Joe Biden was a senator and then a vice president and then a president.

So a little more important than a TV guy.

But his character led he and his son and his family to take millions of dollars from the Chinese.

And I think that's the kind of character that America really needs to take into account and

go for, you know?

As president, the New York Times continues, he wielded power carelessly and often cruelly and put his ego and his personal needs above the interests of his country.

Wow.

Wow.

Now, the guy taking money again from China or Ukraine has not done that.

The guy who didn't know that the Secretary of Defense was in ICU for a week certainly didn't wield his power carelessly or cruelly.

And

I don't know, are you with me on this?

I'm surprised.

I thought...

They were open to maybe endorsing Trump this time.

I thought they were on the fence.

And this seems to be like they've made up their mind that not only will they not endorse Donald Trump at any time during this campaign cycle, but they seem to think he wasn't a good president and would not be a good president in the future.

Well, I want you to know, Stu, that this, for the next 60 seconds, this is not a test, but an actual emergency alert from the emergency broadcast system, where we are now giving official information from the New York Times.

This is indeed a warning.

As president, he wielded his power carelessly, cruelly, personal needs above the interests.

But now as he campaigns again, his worst impulses remain as strong as ever.

Oh, no.

Encouraging violence.

I remember that.

Yeah.

You remember when he was encouraging violence?

That was a big thing when he

advocated the creation of a new Godzilla to crush U.S.

cities.

I thought that was over the line, personally.

I did too.

I did too.

And he specifically, the banners behind him said, stomp on the power lines and the trains, which I thought was,

you know, a little lawless.

To me, a little lawless.

Kinko shouldn't even print that banner.

I mean, that's just me.

That's my stance.

Yeah, right.

Well,

he's encouraging violence and lawlessness.

Now, I don't know of a president,

you know, in the last really almost 20 years that has promoted lawlessness, you know, at all.

No, no, no.

I mean, I mean, look at our border.

I mean, it's the most, it's zipping.

Our border, look at our, our cities are just, they're amazing.

I was in

West Palm last night, having dinner with some friends.

And I've never really spent any time in West Palm Beach.

And it's beautiful.

But I'm walking down the street and it is like money central.

It's like Rodeo Drive.

Okay.

And I've never been there.

And it was just like, wow, the people who live here have a lot of money.

And

I'm driving down the street and I look at my wife and I said, hmm.

Now there's something different about this compared to Rodeo Drive.

And she said, currently, and I said, yeah, currently.

Do you know what it might be?

And she said, yes, the plywood on the windows doesn't exist here.

The stores that have taken their names off the stores and moved away because

there is absolutely no law and order in California.

And I said, yeah, I think that might be it.

What about the human waste?

That was still there in Palm Venezuela.

No, surprisingly, it wasn't.

No, it wasn't.

It was a very nice American city.

It was very nice, very nice.

And it tends to be that way throughout Florida, which I'm trying to figure out what

the difference is, but it must be that Donald Trump is no longer in charge because he, again,

encourages violence and lawlessness.

So there's more to this.

We'll get to it in just a second because it's a very important warning.

We get to that in just a second.

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So we're looking now at

a campaign of Donald Trump, according to the New York Times, where

he's encouraging violence and lawlessness.

He's exploiting fear and hate for political gain.

He's undermining the rule of law.

Did you know that, Stu?

And the Constitution.

He's applauding dictators.

And I don't mean people like Fidel Castro.

I mean, he's not really

a dictator.

That would be fine if you did that.

Dugo Chavez, that's not bad.

Doing business with Venezuela today, that's not bad.

And these things are escalating as he tries to regain power, and he's plotting retribution.

Intend on eluding the institutional, legal, and bureaucratic restraints that put limits on him in his first term.

Wow.

Wow.

So the New York Times is letting you know, quote, the purpose at the start of the new year, therefore, is to sound a warning.

Mr.

Trump does not offer voters anything resembling a normal option of Republican or Democrat, conservative or liberal, big government or small.

No,

no, the Democrats are.

Okay.

Even though the Democrats represent an America where there is no difference between men and women, gender is completely fluid.

White people are always racist.

We redistribute the wealth.

It's a Marxist state that is going to eventually turn into something that does not resemble capitalism because it's not capitalism.

So they're not offering anything like that.

They're offering just that regular America, you know,

that

is so constitutional.

And,

you know,

Donald Trump is confronting an America with far more fateful choice between the continuance of the United States as a nation dedicated to the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, and a man who's proudly shown open disdain for the law and protections and ideals of the Constitutions.

Wow, you know what?

I think

I'm really beginning to see Donald Trump for the monster he is.

And you go on through this op-ed, and it's much of the same.

They talk about how his first four years in the White House did lasting damage to the presidency and the nation, and they go through all that.

But then they say the Republic, and they first of all call it a republic, which is actually news.

So it's not a democracy.

Well,

they're talking to us.

Right.

Yes.

The Republic weathered Mr.

Trump's presidency for a variety of reasons.

His lack of prepared agenda, so he was incompetent and unprepared.

The disruption of COVID-19.

So COVID, the pandemic got in the way.

And his appointees who tried to temper his most dangerous and unreasonable demands.

Most of all,

it survived because the people and institutions in his administration and the Republican Party who proved strong enough to stand up to its efforts to undermine the peaceful transfer of power.

Okay, so you get the point here that like all these things limited him last time, and this time he's going to be fully unleashed, which echoes

exactly what Donald Trump is saying on the campaign trail.

Like he's telling his own voters, hey, I had all these things that got in my way last time.

I won't let that happen again.

I'm going to do all these wonderful things this time.

And you go back at this and you think about, well, what's the reaction of, let's say, Ron DeSantis to this being released?

Is the answer, is the reaction of Ron DeSantis, yay, the New York Times is attacking my opponent and it makes it more likely for me to win in Iowa?

Right.

Or could it possibly be he sees it, he reads it on his laptop and then throws his laptop against the wall across the room?

He says, What are you doing, New York Times?

You're helping Donald Trump.

Exactly.

And so you come to that conclusion.

Is this a spectacular failure from the New York Times, trying to sink Donald Trump and being pathetic at doing it?

Or

is it a success, which is giving Donald Trump ammunition to win this primary and then in their eyes, eventually be defeated by Joe Biden?

A massive, massive risk if you happen to be a Democrat, but one they seem intent on taking.

Just a fascinating effort here because whose mind could possibly be changed by this?

The New York Times readers who already think Donald Trump is Hitler?

Are they like, wow, thank God they gave me a warning.

I was on the verge of voting for the guy.

Or

is there anyone who

is already voting for Trump?

Who's just like, oh, gosh, I mean, I don't know.

Now,

the New York Times is giving me a warning.

This establishment that I don't trust and hate with every fiber of my being is telling me this is the wrong thing to do.

Gee, what should I do here?

It's amazing.

May I ask, Stu?

And I

sure this is a bit cynical.

Okay.

But may I ask that maybe

when the New York Times was meeting in Delaware, in Wilmington, and the White House said, you have to paint him as a danger

to the country.

I mean, what are you doing?

You should dedicate more time that Trump represents an existential threat to democracy.

And then just a few days later,

they write that.

I mean, I know that's cynical.

I mean, it's total coincidence.

Total coincidence.

Oh, and also,

Joe Biden puts Donald Trump in his place, the New York Times.

And is Trump hell?

from the New York Times.

So

they have a very, very good record here.

It's Trump hell.

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That's the name of the piece.

It's the headline of a hell.

That's the

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A piece of something.

I'll tell you that.

It's a piece of something.

You're right.

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You know, Biden has continued his attacks on Donald Trump and his supporters.

Now, this is something, again, the New York Times just said that Donald Trump does, but apparently not Joe Biden.

But let me just tell you what happened at his

speech last night in Charleston, South Carolina.

He said that Donald Trump and his his supporters are defeated Confederates.

Oh,

so wait, we would be Democrats?

After the Civil War, the defeated Confederates wouldn't accept the verdict of the war.

They lost.

So they say they embraced what is known as the lost cause, the self-serving lie that Civil War was not about slavery, but about state rights.

They call that the noble cause.

That was a lie.

Yes, Joe, it was a lie.

It is really weird, but you would know it best because you're a Democrat.

And that was the lie of the Southern Democratic Party.

Next, we're living in an era of second loss cause.

Once again, there are some in this country trying to turn a loss into a lie, a lie that if allowed to live, will once again bring terrible damage to this country.

This time, the lie is about the 2020 election.

Let me say what others cannot.

We must reject political political violence in America.

I agree, like the Klan, which was an arm of the Democratic Party, or BLM, which is an arm of the Democratic Party.

He says always, not sometimes, but always.

It's never appropriate.

So I would assume that would be like,

you know, BLM today.

The violence of January 6th was the extension of an old playbook from the threats of violence and intimidation.

Now, there was a period there, but I would add

just the kind of stuff we were talking about with the Klan,

which was

a violent arm of the Democrat Party.

I just thought I'd

throw that in.

Hmm.

Yeah,

they don't.

It doesn't get mentioned all that much, the history of these institutions.

Yeah, no, it really is strange.

It doesn't.

Now,

Michelle Obama came out, and she said she is terrified by what may come out of the 2024 election.

Is she giving a warning?

She's not, I mean, let me just, she's not saying that she's giving a warning about Donald Trump in 2024, is she?

She is.

She is.

That's the same thing the New York Times did today.

Yeah.

So she's on this podcast with Jay Shetty.

The Jay Shetty?

Yeah.

Wow.

Of course.

Of course, you don't get Michelle Obama if you're not, if you're a different Jay Shetty.

Oh,

she says, what's going to happen this next election?

I am terrified about what could possibly happen.

That's weird because so am I.

Because our leaders matter, who we select, who speaks for us, who holds that bully pulpit,

it affects us in ways sometimes I think people take for granted.

Here she is.

Listen.

The things that keep me up because you don't have control over them.

And you wonder, where are people?

Where are we in this?

You know, where are our hearts?

What's going to happen in this next election?

I am terrified about what could possibly happen because our leaders matter who we select, who speaks for us, who holds that bullied pulpit.

It affects us in ways that sometimes I think people take for granted.

Yeah.

Is he wearing a snuggie in that interview?

He seems to be wearing

a blanket with sleeves.

Is it a snuggie?

Is it a slank it?

What is it?

Because

this is

why he shows

in snuggies.

I'm going to start doing the show in a snuggie.

I didn't know that was allowed.

I have to tell you,

this is why people put their good money into signing up for Blaze TV because they get the kind of deep questions like, slank it or snuggy, which is it.

and i don't think i've heard anybody else ask that stu congratulations thank you very much

yeah um she said she uh

she knows too much because she was married to the president who knows everything about everything in the world

wow

she listed wars in too many regions uh the future of artificial intelligence the environment education whether people will vote people being too engrossed in their phones as other issues that keep her awake at night.

Then they focus the discussion on what offends her, you know.

And many times I've been in conversations and it's turned to that very familiar phrase, I wonder what offends Michelle Obama.

And she spoke about it, and she dislikes injustice.

Thank God somebody does.

She dislikes ego, right?

Greed, don't you know it, and racism.

She condemned unfairness and bullies.

And she also decried childish leadership in which somebody's just base and vulgar and cynical.

You know, she's not cynical.

The police don't always do you like that.

White people don't always do you like that.

That would be cynical.

Anyway, she says she just wants to resonate good.

I want to be a face of reason and compassion and empathy.

And that's much more important than my feelings

because my feelings, I can take care of those.

She's on the road of being a Republican.

Listen to that.

Her feelings don't matter because

she's in charge of those.

That's the first progressive Democrat I've ever heard say that.

She also talked about, and this is going to come as a surprise to you, about being another.

She said, you know, you learn how to be excellent all the time because you can't be less.

And she said, I just find it interesting that some people can be indicted a bunch of times and still run for office while black men can't.

And I thought of that.

I thought of that when her husband won the presidency two times in a row.

I thought, boy, you know, I thought this was a country where a black man can't run for office.

And I must have been mistaken.

It's called oppression,

it's called oppression.

It's oppression.

You know, only eight years in the White House.

Do you know that they created that constitutional amendment limiting presidents to two terms just to stop the first black president?

That's why they did it.

I know.

It's sad.

It's sad.

I know.

It's hard to believe, but it's true.

It was a white guy that

they were.

Well, he was really our first black president, FDR.

Oh, really?

FDR?

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

All right.

You didn't know that.

I always thought it was Clinton.

No, he was second.

But no.

No.

He was the second black president.

Yes.

And neither Clinton or FDR were black.

But they were.

But they, well, it depends on how they identified that particular term.

I mean,

one of his terms, well, he was a black president.

And when he was a Native American president, one, well, he was, and he was a lesbian woman for one of his terms.

Really?

Strange, because his wife was too.

But

anyway, this is the kind of thing that Aishen thinks she's talking about, the reason that that she could bring to the table.

Now,

Stu,

I mean,

that's exactly

how I would introduce her to the political process is getting her on some big show like the Jay Shetty show,

which is anything but Shetty.

You know what I mean?

Yeah,

the snuggie guy.

You're going to put him on a show with a host that's wearing a snuggie, and that's how you're going to launch the campaign.

That's how you do it.

Right.

That's how you do it.

And,

you know, I know you still think that, you know, I'm crazy.

And I might be crazy for saying that she, because she keeps saying she's not interested in it, you know, but wow, she's concerned.

And what, what kind of person are you

that could save the republic, that, that your party would come to you and say, look,

he clearly can't run.

We can't.

We can't start a new campaign right now with anybody else.

And, you know, she might say, well, you've got a great qualified black woman in Kamala Harris.

And

I mean, you'd have to say, well, no, we just picked her for color.

She's not strong enough to be the president.

Everybody hated her, even in our own party.

And then she would remember and then she would go, oh, you know what?

You're right.

And I could be probably the only replacement because you can't replace him with another white man if you have a black woman right there on the side of the stage.

Well, okay, I care about my country.

I don't care.

My president will run it anyway.

To be clear, I don't think you're crazy

on this theory.

I think it's plausible, especially if things continue to go badly.

I mean, you know, you know what Joe Biden's approval rating is right now?

On average, 38%.

Holy cow.

That's that high.

I really would have thought it was shocking.

Yeah, it's high.

Wow.

But like that is down.

He's down from when it was terrible.

Like this is

really ugly.

Well, wait a minute.

It wasn't Donald Trump's at like 39?

Yeah, Trump's wasn't good either.

Trump's always terrible on an approval rating, though, from the moment he walked into office.

And that was not the case with Barack Obama or Joe Biden.

And it continues to go down for Biden.

Things continue to get worse for his candidacy.

And of course, he has other limitations that neither of those candidates had, including

an age that starts with an eight.

If they could just, and I mean this sincerely, if they could just

shut up or imprison anyone that would speak out against his policies or point out that, you know, they're not working.

For democracy, right?

For democracy.

People would love him.

Yeah.

If he was the only choice, my belief is he'd get 100% of the vote, and that would show real unity in this country.

That's how democracy works.

Every single person, one man, one vote, one available candidate.

That's democracy as it was outlined by our founders.

Amen.

Amen, brother.

Amen.

Amen.

So I don't know.

I mean, so I don't think your idea of Michelle Obama making this

heroic run is

implausible.

I don't know that it's the most likely outcome, but I do think

it's a long shot, but

it would be one that I think would win the election immediately.

Unless she went out and she started talking to him.

They'd have to run it in that very democratic fashion of keeping her under lock and key, you know, kind of like they did with Joe Biden.

Just, you know, once in a while, she'd appear from the basement.

But you couldn't have her actually speaking on her own because she hates America, and it's clear once you start to hear her.

Yeah, can we

investigate that a little bit?

Because I think the assumption is, because if you look at Michelle Obama's approval ratings, for example, occasionally that's polled, and they're very, very good.

I mean, she's overwhelmingly liked by the American people.

Now, I don't understand that myself, but it's the abs.

It's the abs.

The arms.

I thought it was the arms.

Oh, yeah, the arms, the arms.

Her arms are so beautiful.

So, whatever it is, she's got good approval ratings on it.

Just a second.

Hold on.

Look, can we just think about her arms for a minute?

Just a moment.

Man, they were beautiful.

And they still are, Glenn, in every way.

I miss them.

She's the most beautiful woman in the world.

Wow.

I'm just

sometimes you just get that

sense of what that woman really is, you know?

All woman.

Just hear her roar, you know.

And

sure.

Anyway, let me take a quick break and then you come back to your point on

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So the theory is that Michelle Obama would be a last-minute step-in for Joe Biden because she's very, very popular and would lead right away.

Correct.

And like, there's polling to back that up.

Her approval rating usually ranges between 60 and 70% overall, despite the fact that half the country didn't like her husband husband as president.

So you'd think, you know, she'd, you know, but she kind of clears a lot of that, even with some people on the right.

She's just this figure, she's the first lady, and she's not, she doesn't have that same animus against her as some of the politicians.

So the theory is she steps in and wins in the last couple months of the election.

But like.

Number one, quite clearly, you have a very long record.

Even Hillary Clinton's approval rating was positive before she started running for office.

Like there is a

there is a long-standing tradition of when you become a politician and everyone has to either vote for you or vote against you, there's kind of a situation where your approval rating drops.

And I would expect that to happen in an environment like this.

And that doesn't even include the fact that you, you know, Michelle Obama would be out there speaking.

about policy and giving her opinion on the future of the country and talking about how she's been oppressed her whole life or something and despite living in the White House and maybe returning to it.

And like, I don't know.

I think when she's put in that position where it matters

what she thinks and what she believes,

don't you think this would change?

Don't you think the 70% approval reading would be a remnant of the past the second she steps on stage?

I have to tell you, it's...

It's really cute the way you still believe that Americans pay attention and care.

You know, it's an antiquated belief of mine.

It is kind of, I mean, it's cute.

It really is.

It's kind of old-fashioned.

Makes me feel like, I don't know,

we should go to the beach and I should wear that black and white striped bathing suit and all the women would be in dresses and socks and stuff in the water.

I think that's refreshing.

It really is.

You and the overall bathing suit did give me quite the visual, I will say, in my mind.

Stripes are really not good.

Not flattering.

No.

No.

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Wow.

Hello, America.

This is great news.

Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House, just cemented Kevin McCarthy's debt bomb.

It's great.

Johnson, Speaker of of the House, just

let it rip over

the weekend.

Dear colleagues, this represents the most favorable budget agreement Republicans have achieved in over a decade, which is

great.

I mean,

McCarthy said his debt ceiling deal was the largest cut that Congress has ever voted on, even though it led to a $2.6 trillion increase in the debt in just a little over six months, no big deal.

So, best in a decade.

I mean, what can we do in a decade?

Maybe, maybe we only do a trillion dollars more in debt.

I don't know.

But it's very exciting to know that they have

no intention

in any way, shape, or form of controlling this behemoth monster.

Also, there was a story that came out over the weekend, and I wanted to get Carol Roth on about it.

Almost a quarter of all jobs added in 2023

didn't actually exist.

That means one fourth of all jobs that the Biden administration has been touting, we're growing jobs like crazy.

A quarter of them weren't actually there.

Now, how can something like this happen?

Well, it seemingly to me, an outsider, it seems like it could happen pretty easily, but only if one thing were true.

And that is you're in some sort of a catastrophic economic fall and going into a recession

and

the government fails to recognize it.

But that's just an outsider looking in.

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Carol Roth, the author of You Will Own Nothing, former investment banker who went legit,

got off Wall Street and started talking about Main Street.

Hi, Carol.

How are you?

Doing well, Glenn.

Thanks for

legitimatizing me.

I guess is the right word.

Yeah.

So I don't understand the job report and how you can make

a mistake this massive over the entire year.

Well, as Mark Twain, it's attributed to him anyway, said, There are three types of lies, lies, damn lies, and statistics.

And this goes back to how data is collected, how it's modeled, how it's manipulated, how it's revised, and why it makes absolutely no sense.

I have seen the different reports, and yes, there has been massive downward revisions.

Obviously, we just got the first December number, so only 11 months of last year have been reported, and 10 out of the 11 months have been revised downward.

The scope of that, I've looked at multiple smart people's analysis.

It's anywhere from 14% to 24%.

There's a piece everyone agrees on.

There's another piece that I can't tell if people are possibly double counting.

But either way, it's just a massive shift.

And the strange thing here is that you expect data to be revised based on how it's collected, but

usually that averages out over time.

Maybe it's not a perfect amount, but like in 2022, the revisions, I think it was revised

downwards, maybe for five months, and then with upward revisions and no revisions, when you netted it out, it was only off by $66,000.

Having 10 out of 11 months being revised downward is either an oddity, it's lazy or nefarious.

Those are your three choices.

Pick whichever your favorite door is for Let's Make a Deal.

Okay, so but what I understand is if you when you're revised, when you have to revise, you take that into account, especially if it's repeated a couple of months in a row, you start to change the algorithm and you're like, no, it's slowing, things need to be slowed down there because that's what we keep seeing.

So it's it's not unusual to miscount for a while because you're not actually counting.

It is a projection.

But if you're doing it for a year it shows like you said you're either lazy or you're you're you're trying to cook the books because you should have made those adjust adjustments and what would account for this is that we're going into a recession is that true

That's one possible interpretation.

I think it's helpful perhaps for people to understand

how this data is collected and massaged because we have these different methodologies, right?

We have what was called the non-farm payrolls or the establishment survey, which is that headline number that everyone focuses on.

What they do is they only look at the payroll records of, the last time I checked, it was like just shy of 150,000 businesses and government agencies.

And then they take that and they put it through seasonal adjustments.

and you know all the different kinds of models to come up with their projection.

But then there's an entirely different survey called the household survey or the current population survey, which only goes out to about 60,000 households and they're getting their employment status and the demographic data.

And it's very different because in the household survey, they're saying, are you employed?

But when they go out to these businesses, they say, how many people are on the payrolls?

So first of all, the household survey captures things like agricultural workers, people who are self-employed, which we know is a huge portion of the population that don't have corporations, you know, some other small groups.

The establishment survey doesn't even have any of that.

And if you have multiple jobs and you show up on multiple payrolls, you're counted multiple times in that survey.

So the data is bastardized and I would argue not even relevant to how our country's economy is run given the large amount of self-employment we have.

But with all of that, we've seen, Glenn, a record high of almost 8.7 million people who are holding down multiple jobs.

We are seeing a loss, and again, the time period is disputed, but

over recent months of 1.5 million full-time workers and adding 796,000 part-time workers.

So going back to your question of recessionary trends,

those are things that would make you scratch your head and say that's moving in the wrong direction.

But who's picking up the slack for that?

Well, that is the government and the government jobs.

We keep getting, you know, I think the last three months, like 50,000 government jobs on average for the last few months, like that's not sustainable.

And those

don't have the same level of productivity because they are paid for by our tax dollars and/or the printing of money.

So all of those those scenarios don't look great in terms of the trends for the economy.

So we haven't seen the numbers for December,

but 216,000 jobs were added.

This has not been revised yet.

And 52,000 of those were government jobs,

which brought us to an all-time high of 23 million employees for the federal government.

It's an astounding, astounding number.

What I want to say on that is that, as I said, December we've just gotten the first print.

We haven't gotten a revision to it.

Same thing with the previous periods.

They keep revising that down.

That means not only is it 52 over 216,000, but if they revise that down, it means it's going to be even a larger percentage that is government jobs.

And that's what we've been seeing in terms of the trend is that the government and all of this deficit spending that we're paying for in terms of inflation in our lives

is really what's creating the differential.

But

what's crazy is jobs hasn't even been the issue.

They keep touting that this is jobs and look at how many jobs were created, even though many of them were reclaimed, not created from when they shut down the economy.

But that really hasn't been the issue for quite some time for people.

It's really been the inflationary pressures and the cost of living, which is why so many people aren't even tuned into this and don't notice when we have these massive revisions.

I have to tell you, I'm in Florida right now, and

specifically I'm in West Palm, and

it is

one of the bigger bubbles I have seen.

I mean, Florida is a bubble in and of itself.

And

here in West Palm, it is.

I mean,

there's a guy I found out at dinner last night.

There's a guy who bought up a bunch bunch of houses right on the ocean.

He's he bought $500 million

in

land, and he's building a $500 million house and he's not a Saudi.

And, you know, he probably has, you know, he probably has two or three children, so you can understand this.

But

you're in Florida, you're especially in places like this.

Boy, it doesn't feel like anything is wrong with the economy.

Right.

So this is the haves and the have-nots, and it's part of what makes it so difficult when we talk about the economy because what we have witnessed over the last decade and a half is this massive Fed and government policy-induced wealth transfer from Main Street America to the wealthy and wealth-connected.

So when you go to the West Palm Beaches, when you go to

these little bubble areas in Southern California and whatnot,

the prices of real estate are going through the roof.

People are driving McLarens and it's this crazy display of wealth that they've gotten through the inflation of the assets because they were these massive asset holders at the same time that the people who are on Main Street America didn't have the opportunity to participate in that upside, are seeing their cost of living go through the roof and not being able to keep up.

So it really is a tale of two different economies.

And when you average that out with this massive wealth

at the top, it looks like things are

kind of moving along.

And that's why I don't think that the way that we portray data is fair or gives us really a great sense of what's happening for most of the country and why

some people in the Democratic Party seem to be scratching their heads and going, I don't understand.

This is a fantastic economy.

Biodenomics is working great when we know that the middle class isn't getting crushed.

Aaron Powell, Jr.: Well, if you're living in

the Washington, D.C.

area, of course, there's lots of employment because the government is employing lots of people.

They are.

They're doing it on the backs of adding more debt and more inflationary pressure.

That has

been really what we've been paying for, quite literally, particularly over the past couple of years.

So there is this delusion, and it's happening on Wall Street, it's happening happening in these different bubble areas that people who are in these areas that have created this tipping of the playing field that has tilted things in their direction, they're going, This is working great.

I don't understand why everybody's complaining when they have been doing it at the expense of free, true, fair, fair, and free, true capitalism that has been impacting the lives of the people who are working and who are the backbone of our economy.

So So I'm driving in some of these neighborhoods.

I was driving by

Mar-a-Lago yesterday, and that was from the 1920s.

A lot of these homes that are huge like this were from the 1920s.

And those were the Jay Gatsby, you know, F.

Scott Fitzgerald days.

And I started thinking, when did the Newport, Rhode Island thing fall apart?

Was that during the Depression when people started not living living like that anymore?

Do you know?

I don't think so because just being a

Jackie Kennedy researcher, you know, and if you think about all the time that

their family and the Kennedys spent out at the Hammersmith Farm where she got married and that whole area, that was pretty extravagant.

And their marriage was like in the

early 50s, 53-ish.

So I don't think it was at that point in time.

All right.

There was something else that I want to get to.

Can we take a quick break and then we'll come right back in just a minute.

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So I don't know if you saw the Wall Street Journal today,

but

the headline, headline, do you have that headline by any chance, Stu?

Don't have it handy, no.

Yeah, the headline was the latest dirty word in corporate America, ESG.

And

it says, following the years of simmering investor backlash, political pressure, and legal threats over environmental, social,

and governance, a number of businesses, corporate,

have shed ESG.

Now they're just calling it corporate responsibility.

Is this a win, Carol, or is this just a shell game again?

So I would, can I answer both?

Can I give all of the above?

I definitely think that there is some win, and I think the part that we need to take to heart is that by the noise that you've made, Glenn, and others have made, and the action that your listeners and others have taken in talking about this and really putting it under a microscope

has

given pushback to corporate America.

And they're seeing that it's not only not working, that it's detracting from their businesses.

Even BlackRock, which we know has been sort of patient zero in the U.S.

of ESGS, they're laying off a bunch of employees, something around 600 employees, mainly in their ESG division because of the pushback.

So I do think that piece is a victory, but it's kind of like the ant problems that many of us have in our house, that you can spray for them and kill them in one season, but they're going to come back out the next season, so you still have to bring

the exterminator out again.

And unfortunately, that's the case with ESG.

And something that you and I had begun to talk about, you actually brought it to my attention, with these natural asset companies that are looking to, you know, same kind of thing, bastardize capitalism, use corporate money, use pension money to buy control

or management of lands, whether those be public or private, to try to take them out of productive use, threatening our food, our land, and our water.

So insanity.

They decided to wait on that, right?

They didn't say, no, they're not going to do it.

They decided to wait.

The SEC decided, correct?

Well, so they were due with the rule January 2nd, and they've extended the comment period to January 18th.

I've sent comments.

I've actually posted them on my Twitter feed.

If anybody wants, they're welcome to copy and paste and send them in to the SEC or to anyone,

whether it be their representatives, whether it be their state treasurers, whether it be their governors.

I know that Marlo Oakes from Utah, who you've had on the program, is one of the key key voices against this.

And we need more people like that because not only do we need the SEC to say, no, the New York Stock Exchange can't list them, that's just one way these groups can access capital.

It doesn't mean that NACs don't exist.

It doesn't mean they can't go to the private market or sovereign wealth funds privately to try to go and do this.

So we really do need legislation that says this is something that needs to go away.

So, a little bit of a celebration, Glenn, but the job isn't done yet.

Right.

So, let me, if I may, invite you back on tomorrow because I want to talk about that very thing because most people don't have any idea what we're talking about.

It's something that's new, came out right around the holidays, and it is one of the most diabolical schemes to shut farming and everything else down and control the land all across America, unlike anything I've ever seen before.

And we'll talk about that tomorrow.

Carol, thank you so much.

God bless.

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If you've gone into restaurants lately and you've been shocked at the price of anything,

soup to sandwiches to steak, anything,

you

can

fall into what's going on.

This is a scam.

How can a BLT be 16 bucks?

We wanted to get Brian Will on.

He's a serial entrepreneur, two-time Wall Street Journal best-selling author, leading consultant in business and sales management.

He's founded seven different

companies across four distinct industries.

He is currently the head of a chain of restaurants,

and

they are the Derby Sports Bar, Cantina Loca, the Tavern House, and Central City Tavern.

You might have one in your town.

He is also, in his spare time, a member of the city council in the town of Alpharetta, Georgia.

I hope we have time to talk about that a little bit.

But he was just on talking about the price of a BLT.

on Varney and Company.

And everyone on my staff, Brian, found that fascinating fascinating on how you broke that down.

How you doing, Brian?

I'm good, Glenn.

Thanks for having me.

This is awesome.

So can you break this down?

Why should we look at the price of $16

for a BLT and say, okay, I understand it.

It's reasonable.

Yeah, this whole conversation, Glenn, started with a friend of mine who sent me this text when he was sitting in my restaurant saying, hey, Brian, I'm sitting here eating eating your BLT and it's $16.

You know it's only bacon, lettuce, tomato, and bread.

And I said, you know, Dan, let me break this down for you.

I want to give you some perspective.

That sandwich might cost $16, but we've got $20,000 of rent in that building.

We've got $6,000 of utility.

We've got $60,000 of payroll.

And then we've got our general

OP-Ex expenses that all have to get paid for out of the gross profit margin in that sandwich.

And so we actually did a breakdown on that.

If you'd like to hear this little breakdown, I do.

I do.

That $16 sandwich has about $5 of actual food cost, which leaves about $11 of gross profit.

But out of that $11, $2 of that goes towards rent and utilities.

$2.50 goes towards we call our fixed operational expenses, like the T Vs and the music and the mats and the towels and all that stuff.

Labor to make that sandwich was $4.50,

which only leaves me a profit of $2.

So on a $16 sandwich, I have $2 of actual net profit that I get to keep unless or until something breaks or something goes wrong.

That's my gross potential net profit.

So how many BLTs do you have to sell to be able to keep your doors open?

Yeah, so I was laughing about that.

If you take our $86,000 a month in general expenses, figure in a 30% food cost, we got to sell 93,000 sandwiches a year to get to zero.

Every restaurant has a break-even point.

The break-even point in that restaurant is about $1.5 million a year.

So if I do $1,499,000 in revenue, I lose $1,000.

Everything above $1.5, we can make a profit margin on.

But if you never get to the 1.5,

you're just spinning your wheels.

So what has changed?

I mean, it's not just the price of food, is it?

No, food has gone up, but our biggest increase in expenses has been labor.

If you remember, obviously, when COVID hit and everybody was getting all these extended unemployment benefits, when we came out of COVID and tried to bring people back, they didn't want to come back to work.

Right.

So we immediately went to a $15 minimum.

And that's for kids coming out of high school, and this was three years ago.

That's now jumped up to about a $1,650,000.

So I have people with zero experience, 18 years old, come to work for me, and we start them out at $33,000.

Where our chefs are now at $60,000, $60,000.

Our managers are now at $70,000 to $80,000.

So if you look at my restaurant three years ago, we were paying $500,000 for labor on $2.9 million of revenue.

Today we pay $650,000 for labor on $2.5 million of revenue.

My revenue is down $350,000 and my labor is up $150,000.

And that's why we have to keep driving the price of these things up.

Everybody wants to get paid, and they want a big salary.

They want a living wage, but all that does is drive everything up.

At some point, we still have to make a profit.

This is what happened in Seattle, except they did it by choice.

When Seattle raised the minimum wage, I don't remember what it was, to I think $15 or $16 an hour.

All the restaurants said, we can't afford this.

And a lot of them left,

closed shop and left Seattle.

Some of them stayed.

And some of them just went out of business because of it.

But that's not the only cost.

You now have food going up.

You have labor going up.

Rent.

Utilities went up 40%.

40%.

Just our gas and electric, right?

Our insurance went up 40%.

Everything is, I mean, the whole supply chain from us down, everybody's costs go up in that compounds.

Why did insurance go up 40%?

Because they can?

I mean, I don't, that's a good question.

Because you have no choice but to buy it, because if you don't buy it, it, you can't stay in business.

So it goes up.

You know,

it's crazy how much costs have gone up.

So how do you see us weathering this?

You know, business is interesting.

I have a picture in my office of a guy on a tightrope, and he's got that big long bar, right, that goes on both sides.

And I always say we have to balance.

Business owners are on this tightrope, and you have to balance what you can charge on one end with what the consumer is willing to pay on the other.

And so so as long as you can keep that balance, you can stay on the tightrope and stay in business.

But if you charge too much, they stop coming, you fall off.

If you don't charge enough, you get more business at a loss, you go out of business.

So there's always a balance.

And in our case, we've made sure we put our locations in what we call high-traffic areas.

So we're getting, you know, organic traffic running around our restaurants, which

helps us drastically.

But you look at these small operators that are out there, you know, fighting all these costs that that don't have that organic type of traffic.

And that's why they're going under.

I mean, you're a serial entrepreneur.

What do you hear from entrepreneurs that are just beginning today?

I mean, it's a completely different world.

Can you make it?

It is.

It's a different world in a lot of ways.

And I actually do a lot of sales and management training.

And one of the other things we know in today's environment is there's so much information online that people can research research almost anything before they ever walk in your door.

And they already know what your competition is charging.

They already know what they should be paying.

And so again, you're back to this balance of you either need to create something extremely unique that will drive people in and make them want to buy from you or your chances of success are diminished greatly.

So I called COVID the great washout, Glenn.

All the weak operators that used to be able to make it because we were in a booming economy, when COVID hit, it just washed out all those weak operators and only left the ones that are strong.

Now, you've got people that are coming in behind us and trying to come in and undercut, but all they're going to do is lose all their money and go out of business and hurt the rest of us.

It's an interesting time to be in business.

But if you were a true entrepreneur, it washed out a lot of people who were just.

You know, my dad used to have his own bakery, and that is hard keeping that afloat.

You know, a one little one-man shop in whatever you're doing.

And food is the worst at that.

It wiped out a lot of people who are just working for themselves.

Yeah.

Just working for themselves and only making enough money to live on.

And most of the people that got washed out didn't have any financial security behind them, savings, you know, they just weren't able to weather that bump, which is one of the things I teach entrepreneurs today is you better have enough security behind you that if the next COVID comes along or if something weird happens, you're not going to get wiped out at the drop of a hat.

We laid off 150 people in one day in March of 2020.

It was a horrible day.

Wow.

Your thoughts of what's coming in 2024?

Any

insight on that?

Yeah,

I've had this question a good bit, and I have friends in the M ⁇ A field, and I see everybody waiting to see what's going to happen with this election.

We just don't know what's going to happen.

I think if

Biden gets elected again, he doesn't have to worry about getting re-elected.

So who knows what's going to happen with the people pulling the strings up there in Washington and what they're going to do.

So I think we're in a tenuous time right now, particularly in small business, that we need to be very careful.

And we need to be keeping some powder dry to keep us safe just in case something else pops up.

If Donald Trump were to be elected, he doesn't go to jail and the left doesn't set the country on fire.

Better or worse for business?

If he can start taking some of these regulations away, if he can start making it easy for us to get those interest rates back down.

I mean, the other issue we have, and I love this topic.

I did a video on it the other day about inflation.

Inflation is going to affect us forever, right?

We had a 5%, we had an 8%.

Even if it's 3%, that doesn't mean prices are going down.

Correct.

Right.

That means they've just compounded, right?

They're never going back down.

Maybe they won't go up as much, but they're not going back down.

People get very confused on how that works.

But if we can get the economy booming again to where people aren't afraid to spend their money and they aren't, you know, hoarding it, trying to wait and see what's going to happen, then people go out and they'll have more fun, they'll spend more money, and I think we'll all be okay.

Let's just take a little bit of time.

Yeah, Brian, thank you so much.

Really appreciate it.

Glenn, I appreciate you having me.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

Brian Will, he's an entrepreneur and explaining what is really going on.

It's going to get harder and harder for people to see

and easier and easier for

politicians to create boogeymen

and say, you know, it's these evil store owners, it's these evil whatever, when in reality,

all of the regulations, just what's happening with meat in California is truly terrifying.

Stu, would you write down, I'd love to get somebody from, you know, the pork producers or the beef producers of America to explain to America the dilemma that they are in right now.

Chicken producers, anybody who's producing eggs, all of this.

California just passed a law before the new year, and it's now in effect, that

animal pens have to be a certain size.

If the pork and beef producers, pork producers say, if we have to put this in,

then

that's going to cost about $3,500 a head for every pig.

And that would obviously put us out of business or raise the price skyrocket.

And so

they're put into this position to where they either are not going to sell to California, which is a big buyer,

or

they have to abide by California law.

And that will cost the entire country more money because they have to build all of these different pens and barns and everything else.

I personally, and

I'm in a different situation than any of the other farmers are or ranchers are, but I personally would say, screw you, California.

I'm tired of California dictating to us what we can and cannot do.

That is a failed system.

And why we're allowing it to drag all of us into that failed system is beyond me.

It's not going to last because it can't.

Numbers are numbers.

Math is math.

It just can't continue.

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Well, see if this sounds familiar.

Farmers commenced a week of planned protests on Monday while government officials warned that far-right groups are attempting to co-opt the movement for their own political ends, the farmers began the day blocking roads in response to a government proposal to revoke key tax privileges.

The government said, quote, right-wing extremists and other enemies of democracy are trying to infiltrate and instrumentalize the protests.

Apparently, these crazy farmers are rioting to trigger an overthrow of the government.

My gosh, when will they learn?

Now, these are German farmers, and what they're protesting about is the government has overspent, and just the cupboard is bare.

They can't cut anymore.

So they are doing a couple of things.

They're getting rid of some of the tax benefits for farmland,

which is going to be hard for the farmers, seeing that they're not wealthy people to begin with.

And then the second thing is they want to phase out diesel fuel, which is going to go really, really well for all of that equipment that they have purchased that uses diesel.

So it's another part of the green agenda.

And we're going to see it here in our country.

But again, the farmers are saying they're putting us out of business.

We just want you to know that means you starve to death.

But government officials, I'm sure, are okay with that.

So we got that going for us.

Stu, back to you.

Well, there's nothing, there's no vegetables in German food.

So in theory, they probably could survive for at least a while.

You know, I think you might be right on that.

I think you might be right.

It is bizarre.

I keep hearing this reported, and I don't know if it's targeted to me to make me feel not so empathetic to their cause, but it keeps being reported as government subsidies are being cut to farmers, and they're complaining about getting, basically not getting free money from the government.

But the way you describe that is a little bit different than that coverage.

Yeah, well, they're losing their tax advantages, which I guess some would call subsidies, you know, losing their tax advantages.

And I'm sure they are losing some subsidies.

But remember, this is a socialistic style government over there.

And the problem is they know that the government is trying to put farmers out of business all over Europe.

And they won't stand for it.

Got no room

to compromise.

We gotta stay together

if we're gonna survive.

Stand up straight

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Welcome to the fusion

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This is the Glenn Beck program.

So,

what's interesting is the Washington Post has just come out and was talking about

Secretary Austin leaving intensive care.

Amid the growing scrutiny of the Pentagon's secrecy,

it's weird.

They said the handling of the situation,

Pentagon officials said that it's, you know, it's not necessarily the best thing that has happened by not informing the president that he was in ICU for about a week.

But internally, some frustrated officials have complained saying that the handling of the incident showed unbelievably bad judgment on Austin's part.

And I think that would be a first where he showed bad judgment.

Officials in the White House and the Pentagon, according to the Washington Post, in a voice that is really

one of the people, vowed Monday to

review the lapses in communication that led to this imbroglio.

Now, I would say imbroglier myself,

but or hullabaloo, but all of those things are, you know, what the people on the streets say all the time, Washington Post.

So thanks for keeping us in touch with

the everyday people.

We have Chris Stewart joining us,

and we're going to talk about this.

He is a guy who

has been very involved with the Defense Department and knows Does this kind of stuff happen all the time?

Chris Stewart joins us in 60 seconds.

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Now, Stu, I don't want to speak out of turn, but I have heard the reason

Secretary of Defense, you know, he doesn't want to say why he was in.

the hospital.

It was for elective surgery.

And I've heard a lot of people joke about this.

What does he have in transgender surgery?

I mean, why not just share what you have?

And to be clear, that's wrong to do because that's not elective.

Transgender surgery is the most important thing you can do for your health.

It's not an elective.

This is.

And so I understand that he was in

for, I think, a fourth time for penile reduction surgery.

He just wants it very, very small.

And I think his exact quote was, Doc, make it smaller than it is when I'm in a cold pool.

And the first four or five times he did this, they couldn't get it small enough.

And so he was in one more, take one more stab at it.

So I don't know that's

necessary per se.

Is that confirmed with this report?

No, but I have it on pretty good.

you know, pretty good sources.

It's helpful.

Yeah, thank you.

Chris Stewart is with us now.

Hello, Chris.

How are you?

Bland, that's twice.

You've made me really laugh this week, but how am I supposed to follow that kind of thing?

Well, I don't.

I didn't mean to make you laugh.

I'm just trying to tell the truth.

I think that's what he was in for, but

I'm not entirely sure.

A couple of days ago, you

gave us flowers out in the garden or something, and I was laughing as well.

So it's good to be with you.

Yeah, good.

So, Chris,

I mean, I immediately thought of you when I read this over the weekend

because, you know,

you know a lot about how the Pentagon works and, you know, how the military works.

And

I haven't seen a Secretary of Defense kind of go missing for a week and nobody really noticed.

Have you?

Well, let's just say it's unusual.

But who's surprised about this, Glenn?

I mean, you talked about the judgment.

I would add, in addition to it, it displays his poor judgment, the arrogance that this Secretary has demonstrated again and again.

But it's perfectly on brand for his leadership and for the Biden administration.

And one thing I would emphasize, Glenn, that I think some of your listeners may understand, but not all of them, and that is the culture and the expectations of the military.

They're different than it is in the civilian world.

You give military members tremendous trust because you give them tremendous power.

But that demands certain behavior, and one of those is that you just don't show up at work

without telling someone, without telling the people who are going to cover for you, without telling your boss.

If a young sergeant or a young lieutenant did that, they'd be facing severe repercussions.

And yet he didn't show up.

He didn't tell the assistant secretary, who, as everyone knows now, was vacationing in Puerto Rico.

She didn't even know.

And worse, he didn't tell his boss.

Or, I don't know, maybe he told Biden and maybe President President Biden forgot because that would be a possible explanation as well.

But it's just so far outside the norms of what you expect from any responsible person, let alone, for heaven's sakes, the Secretary of Defense.

Well, did, I mean, we are currently,

you know,

shooting down like they're clay pigeons

missiles from,

you know, the

Houthis and the Iran proxies, I mean, our ships are kind of busy right now.

Is there no, in a week, is there no thought that maybe somebody might call in and say, hey, what should we do?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So not only the ongoing skirmishes we're having with the Houthis, which is a whole nother conversation, by the way.

But, you know, there's also the efforts that we have in the war in Gaza.

Who's coordinating with the Israel Air Defense Ministers on those efforts?

What about the fact that we had a strike

into Baghdad during this week on January 4th?

Who coordinated that?

I mean, that's the kind of thing that if you're going to strike in Baghdad, my understanding was that the Secretary of Defense would be the final arbiter for that decision and as a minimum would have been informed on it.

And apparently, that didn't happen.

These are the kinds of things that you have to have leadership from inside the Pentagon.

And it turns out that just simply wasn't happening.

And by the way, Glenn, if you'll allow me, that's not the first time because everyone, I mean,

I've said the Secretary should resign immediately after the debacle in Afghanistan, again, after the Kynabloon.

The fact that we have not met our recruiting goals, all of these things fall on his shoulders.

He should have resigned two years ago.

So who's actually running things, Chris?

Yeah, people ask that question all the time, both about the White House and in some cases, about the Pentagon.

Well, I think absent or aside from his absence this last week that you know this general is running things.

I've seen it reflected in the decisions they make or the lack of decisions or the poor decisions.

Now, if you ask about who's running the White House, I truly don't know.

And we used to say that, Glenn, is kind of a joke, but now we say it very seriously because you look at this president and you know that he doesn't have the capability to be running the most powerful government in the world.

So then who is?

But there's no question Secretary Austin's running the Pentagon, again, short of last week.

And you see it reflected in the decisions that they make, in the poor judgment that is now filtered down through the entire Pentagon, through the entire Department of Defense.

And it breaks my heart to see

the institution that I spent much of my life serving, and so did my brothers and my fathers, and now our nephews and nieces, to see it so abused by

arrogance and judgment that just isn't up to what these fine young men and women deserve.

Well, I understand why he, you know, didn't want to talk about the penile reduction surgery.

But if it wasn't that, let's just say it wasn't that,

why not say why you're going in?

What's the big deal?

Well, so,

you know, if people, and I have an understanding of this, Glenn, as you know, that I recently resigned from Congress because of health concerns with my wife.

So I'm sensitive to the fact that they're, you know, in a day that is very, very public, or when you serve in a public position, that

there are sensitivities regarding health concerns.

I get that.

But you don't hide it.

I mean, so maybe we don't need to know why he went in for elective surgery, but if you have a reaction that puts you in intensive care, that's different.

And that has to be discussed.

And if you're not going to discuss the reasons why,

and I think, again, being in intensive care just kind of demands an answer.

But if you're unwilling to talk about that, you still have to tell people, here I am.

And don't worry because my assistant secretary knows I'm here.

No, she didn't.

And don't worry because my boss, the President of the United States, knows and has made accommodations.

No, he didn't.

I mean, that's the minimum that we would expect is communications about it.

And one last thing on this, Glenn, and I think this is important, the Secretary doesn't disappear into a hospital and not have a large group of people know that.

I mean, he was certainly accompanied in the hospital with probably more than a dozen people, maybe several dozen, and none of them acted responsibly either.

Some of them should have raised their hand and said, hey, the American people and leadership at the White House deserves to know where we are today.

Chris, thank you so much.

I want to ask you about

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Chris Stewart is with us.

Chris, you've been a congressman.

You've worked in intelligence.

You have been

with

the services forever, you and your family.

What do you look at now and say,

this is something that keeps me up, or this is something that I keep looking at and saying, well, that's good.

There's some good news coming.

Yeah.

Well, okay, let me do the good news because I do think that we are on a tactical basis,

which is we haven't won the war, but we've won a few battles.

I do think we are turning the tide on some things.

You mentioned earlier about ESG or

some of the real

kind of battles, social battles that we've had.

And I think people are just exhausted by it.

And frankly, I think think they're sickened by it.

And we are winning on a couple of those things.

And I think we're going to it's going to clearly be one of the primary conversations during the election.

And I think, again,

we're winning some of those battles, or at least we're slowing some of them down.

But I think this year, Glenn, just has the potential to be

just

such a mess.

And it's going to hinge on the election.

You know, Glenn, that the last book I wrote that you and I have talked about,

the kind of the premise is that is a contested election where we truly have half the country who just says whoever wins, he's not legitimate.

I will never recognize him as our president.

And President Trump is going to be found guilty of some charges.

It's just almost inevitable.

We don't know which ones, but he will be.

And then the Democrats are going to say, look, he's a criminal.

He can't be the President of the United States.

Well, we know that's not true.

The criteria to be the President of the United States is really simple.

You got to be 35 years old.

You've got to be a U.S.

citizen.

And no state, no person, no other agency or organization can add requirements.

That's it.

And so the president's going to continue to run.

And the Democrats are already setting it up to say, well, two things.

Number one is he's a Nazi, he's a authoritarian, and therefore we can never let him serve.

And the second is, you know, he's a criminal.

And I think, meanwhile, the Republicans look at this and go, well, you all, the projection on this is just beyond irony about them accusing Republicans of being totalitarian when we've seen the history of what they've done uh and I just

about the election this year I worry about the chaos and the riots I think it's going to make 2020 look like a look like a garden party or at least potentially could and then ultimately

putting us in a place where there's actual real uh uncertainty about who is the president and I I don't know how our country walks through that without some without some just real pain.

And deep, deep scars.

That would destabilize.

I mean, if we were going through that, if I were China, I'd go into Taiwan right away.

Yeah.

Because

we would just not have the capability.

So

you'd lose that.

Any of the bad guys just come after us.

I mean, it's...

We're entering that time I talked about in 2008 where all of our enemies will see that we are so weakened that without coordination, they'll just all look at each other and go, now, go, go, go, go, go.

100%.

100%.

That's a great fear.

And you have to recognize that these leaders do watch what's happening internally, and they do take measure of that.

It is part of their dynamic.

How will the U.S.

respond?

And how are they going to respond if they're divided or if they're chaotic or if there's uncertainty about who the actual president is?

And by the way, the American people

will be exhausted by this effort as well.

And it's much harder for them to say, well, okay, while we're in the midst of all this, yeah, let's go ahead and intervene in a war in the South China Sea.

And here's something else to keep in mind with that, Glenn, that's really important.

Most of the wars that we've been involved with for the last generation, very little sacrifice for most Americans.

Now, for those people serving, it's incredible sacrifice, but most Americans, it's not.

But a war with China,

for no other reason than this, the best analysis shows a 9% reduction in GDP from a war in the South China Sea.

To give that that some measure, there was a 7% reduction during the Great Depression.

Every one of us will feel it.

We have a war with China.

And

it won't be the kind of thing where we think, gosh, I pray for our soldiers because they're over there fighting a war.

Every one of us will be praying intensely

because every one of us will be affected by it.

There's no way we could go in and protect Taiwan at this point, is there?

Yeah, there actually is, Glenn.

I mean, it's very, very difficult.

I mean, the hope is that we can manage a deterrence, which would, you know, convince China it's just not worth the cost, which is, of course, what we're trying to do now.

But, you know, if you think that,

you know, or someone who would suppose, well, you know, Taiwan won't be nearly destroyed in the effort.

And as an example of that, some of these exquisite chip manufacturers where the world relies on them, they are placed in a position geographically where the focus of the war will be there's very little chance that they would survive unharmed.

And so when you say, well, you know, can we really go in and protect Taiwan?

Yeah, we can probably protect the island from being actually militarily taken over, but it's going to, again, it's going to come at a real cost.

What happens if you lose those chip plants?

What's the world look like?

Oh, well, it's very, very different, obviously.

I mean, because those are used not just in our products, they're used primarily in the manufacturing of, you know, millions of products.

So that's one of the reasons that you get this nine percent reduction in GDP.

And it's not just the U.

S., it's globally that that has that impact.

And it takes years to build that.

I mean, it would take ten years for us to build up that capacity that we would lose.

The good news is China, it'll take them a generation.

They have no capability or very limited capability to build it up.

It would not be in President Xi's lifetime.

So they would be hurt more than we would, but still, it would be a dramatic impact on the global economy.

Is it

reasonable to say just let them have it?

Just let him take it.

Why defend it?

Let him take it.

Yeah,

control all of those chips, those chip plans.

Yeah.

Some people argue that.

And the interesting thing, too, Glenn, is that

we're going to see what Taiwan thinks next week because they're going to have their election, and there are different views on that.

If you do polling in Taiwan, there's a number of them, about 30% of them, who say, Yeah, let's just go to China.

It's not that big of a deal.

I think it'd be a catastrophe for us to let that happen, though.

Yeah.

Chris, thank you so much.

Chris Stewart, friend of the program.

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You know, what Chris Stewart said a minute ago about the good news that we are turning the tide, I think that is true.

I think people

know it.

They're tired of it.

They are tired of it in their schools.

They're just tired of it in their life.

And people are standing up.

It's why, you know, if you're in power, you need to silence anyone who disagrees with you.

We saw today in the Wall Street Journal that the dirty word on Wall Street now are three letters, E, S, and G.

And that's because of you.

That's because you stood up, you educated your friends and neighbors, and they know the things they want to do are not going to be popular.

And that's why they have to shut people up.

However, what they didn't count on really is you

and also the internet.

They, for some reason, the people who, you know, made it into a business somehow or another didn't realize that free speech would be dangerous for them and their plans.

Let me play something from

Taylor Sheridan and Joe Rogan.

And I want you to listen to this, and I want you to remember, Joe Rogan, I think, is either agnostic or an atheist.

Maybe an atheist, not talking about God an awful lot.

Here he is with Taylor Sheridan.

Listen to this.

Paul Harvey, you know who that is?

Sure.

So he did a thing, God, back in the 60s or 70s, and he equated it to the devil.

And maybe it is.

Or you could also say

it's just that.

But he did a radio piece on how to destroy America, the social fabric of it.

Wow.

And it's as though somebody just took

America, the social fabric of America from the late 60s to today.

And the timeline of the things that he said.

It's pretty wicked.

It's pretty powerful.

I'm not shocked.

I mean, if you think about all the things that we do to manipulate other countries, I'm not shocked that someone would do that and manipulate us and that they would do it through education institutions.

That's the way to do it.

You get kids and then you train them as they leave and then they go into the workforce.

They have these ideas like burned into their heads.

And that's probably what all this gender confusion shit is, this giant uptick of it.

It's literally probably engineered.

And I think that's also what a lot of the climate stuff is.

And

a lot of the different things that people are fighting over, it's not just these big financial institutions that

are invested in climate change and green energy and all these different things, but it's also other countries just finging with us.

I think that's amazing to hear Joe Rogan talk about this.

By the way, if you've not heard the Paul Harvey, If I Were the Devil, it came out in 1965.

It is one of his best pieces of work, and I am a huge fan of Paul Harvey.

Listen to what he said, 1965.

If I were the devil,

if I were the devil,

if I were the prince of darkness, I'd want to engulf the whole world in darkness, and I'd have a third of its real estate and four-fifths of its population, but I wouldn't be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree,

the.

So I'd set about, however, necessary, to take over the United States.

I'd subvert the churches first.

I'd begin with a campaign of whispers.

With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve, do as you please.

To the young, I would whisper that the Bible is a myth.

I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around.

I would confide that what's bad is good and what's good is square.

And the old, I would teach to pray, after me, our Father,

which art in Washington.

And then I'd get organized.

I'd educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting so that anything else would appear dull and uninteresting.

I'd threaten TV with dirtier movies and vice versa.

I'd peddle narcotics to whom I could.

I'd sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction.

I'd tranquilize the rest with pills.

If I were the devil, I'd soon have families at war with themselves, churches at war with themselves, and nations at war with themselves, until each in its turn was consumed.

And with promises of higher ratings, I'd have mesmerizing media fanning the flames.

If I were the devil, I would encourage schools to refine young intellects, but neglect to discipline emotions, just let those run wild.

Until before you knew it, you'd have to have drug-sniffing dogs and metal detectors at every schoolhouse door.

Within a decade,

I'd have prisons overflowing.

I'd have judges promoting pornography.

Soon I could evict God from the courthouse, then from the schoolhouse, and then from the houses of Congress.

And in his own churches I would substitute psychology for religion and deify science.

I would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys and girls and church money.

If I were the devil, I'd make the symbol of Easter an egg and the symbol of Christmas a bottle.

If I were the devil, I'd take from those who have and give to those who wanted until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious.

And what'll you bet?

I couldn't get whole states to promote gambling as the way to get rich.

I would caution against extremes in hard work, in patriotism, in moral conduct.

I would convince the young that marriage is old-fashioned, that swinging is more fun,

that what you see on TV is the way to be.

And thus I could undress you in public.

And I could lure you into bed with diseases for which there is no cure.

In other words, if I were the devil, I'd just keep right on doing what he's doing.

Isn't that incredible?

1965, Paul Harvey.

I mean, I don't think there's one thing that's on there, with the exception of the word square, that hasn't been done and doesn't ring true absolutely in those words today.

Everything.

If I were the devil, I'd put my feet up on the desk because I'd think I was about to win.

What the devil doesn't know

is what the devil didn't know in the 1960s.

And it didn't know in the 1950s.

It didn't know in the Civil War.

It didn't know in World War II, in Nazi Germany, that he never wins.

Never, ever.

He always gets close.

He's always just at the verge of setting the entire world on fire.

And a good number of people go right along with him.

Because he's the author of lies.

Because he's the only author of fear.

There is no fear with God.

There's faith.

There's trust.

There's hope with God.

Fear doesn't come from any place that the devil doesn't play in.

No reason to fear.

We know how it ends.

The devil is in the details.

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So, Joe Biden is already trying to build the presidential campaign around the January 6th insurrection, you know, with his rants against the new Hitler who incited this threat to American democracy.

And it's not really connecting with some of his people.

They're down a little bit.

It's a real problem, Glenn.

And, you know,

I know some people are going to vote for Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley or whatever.

But when you talk about the presidency of the United States, you need leadership.

And that's why

they're going to have a morale booster party for

the staff to celebrate all the incredible work they've done.

And what's happened, Glenn, over the past couple months is that a lot of the people who are working for the White House are asking themselves an important question, which is why doesn't President Joe Biden want to kill all the Jews like I do?

And then Joe Biden has responded, well, hey, I understand your concerns.

How about a trip to Chuck E.

Cheese?

We can all get together and have a pizza party

and play some skee ball

and get the morale up so that, you know, we can all

forget about those Jews.

Right.

For a little while.

For just a little while.

You know, look, we're all interested in the long term of running away from Israel at full speed and embracing all of the people that want to kill them.

But, you know, we need to do that at a slower pace to fool voters going into the 2024 2024 election.

Correct.

They might think there's some anti-Semitism there.

And of course, it's not anti-Semitism.

Anti-Semitism is what happens when you just blindly hate Jews.

The Democrats have hundreds of reasons why they don't like them.

So it's totally different than anti-Semitism.

It's not just blind hatred.

No, they don't.

No, they thought this through.

I mean,

there was somebody authored a book, and I don't remember when, but it had a lot of stuff in about how bad the Jews were.

Yeah, it was about a struggle.

It was a real struggle.

Yeah, my struggle is.

My struggle, yeah.

And it was a book that Democrats seem to be signing up for now these days.

Just protest after protest after protest where they chant the same things that are in that book.

And we're all supposed to say, well, what about those people in Charlottesville?

If that one time, we saw four people with tiki torches saying bad things, which were bad, and we all said were bad.

But now that there's thousands of these rallies every week across the country at every single campus, you'd think maybe you'd see a little bit more priority put on that, but apparently not.

So if you happen to be at the pizza party, have fun today.

I think breadsticks are included.

Now, Rich Lowry

has written a new column.

Brace yourselves.

The left will roil the country again if Donald Trump beats Joe Biden.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think that's absolutely true.

Lowry said saving democracy doesn't mean upholding the rules no matter what and letting the voters decide on the election and the fate of the next president.

No, it means blocking Trump by any means necessary, regardless of the consequences for the rule of law, democratic politics, or faith in our system of government.

Lowry, who

is an unbashed

Trump basher,

tried to be even-handed in his article here.

I don't know if that's a fair summary of.

Oh, you don't think so?

I mean, no, I mean, I think he, I mean, okay, he did brand it 2020, uh, the 2024 election as a revenge tour.

So, I mean, you know, he's, he's got that.

That makes him an unabashed Trump

basher.

I, I mean, I think, I don't think he's a huge fan, I would say that, but I don't think he's an unabashed.

I don't think he's

a mindless Trump opponent like some of the people you see in the media by any means.

So he goes on

to say

that we are going to have

real problems,

and I think he's absolutely right on all of this.

He says

they are going to do whatever they can to destroy Donald Trump.

And he said

left will organize throughout hollowed out one-time Western constitutional democracies like Germany and Canada to drive home their dissatisfaction with the American electorate,

and expect to see cities set aflame with race-baiting Democratic politicians on hand to incite mob violence.

As with the George Floyd riots, corporate press here and among other counterparts in other Western countries, they'll justify their violence as righteous indignation.

And if things really become unruly,

they'll place all the blame on MAGA Republicans.

We're about to become mighty, mighty popular

all across the world, I think.

And if you're the Democrats, let's just say you're a Democrat and this stuff starts happening, right?

Trump wins and the Democrats rise up and start causing chaos all across the country.

And let's say

you're one of the good Democrats and you don't want that chaos.

How would you talk your voters out of it?

After everything you've told them over the past four to eight years about how basically Hitler is taking over and

they're going to

crack down on minorities, overrun the rule of law.

I mean, read the entire.

We started the show with the op-ed from the New York Times today.

How could you justify not protesting over that person being elected?

Right?

They've built this entire foundation that the end of the world is coming if this guy wins.

When they rise up after he wins, what happens?

Well, see, that I think is the difference here.

They'll claim that we say the same things about Joe Biden.

And

that's

kind of true, except our charges are verifiably true and illegal and everything else, but

Marxist.

But we're not saying that.

We are saying that this

will break the United States of America, that we are going to be an entirely new kind of country.

But they say that themselves.

Joe Biden is going to transform and Barack Obama, the fundamental transformation of America, away from capitalism and everything else.

So they're saying that.

What we're saying is it's got to stop.

And what we want to have stop is the illegal things that are going on, the corruption that is going on,

the lies that are being told, the persecution of anybody who disagrees with our government.

But I have to tell you, if I thought that he was duly elected and it was clean,

Okay, well, that's what the American people decided.

I mean, we don't go out in the streets.

I mean, this year might be different, but we don't go out in the streets and cause all kinds of chaos because we generally like the country and know what chaos does.

That's just not a way the American people do it.

But I think we're at the edge here.

They have convinced themselves it's the end of the democracy.

We're telling the truth that it is the end of the republic.

But I think only one side is eager to get violent, and that is the left.

And they are organizing for it.

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