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Stu,

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Right.

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I have a bone to pick with you.

Okay, well, it's the last day of the year to do it for me.

Yeah, go ahead.

You advised me

to watch a movie on Netflix.

It was called Leave the World Behind.

Leave the World Behind.

Apparently the number one movie.

In 89 countries.

In 89 countries.

Yeah, now I didn't ask you to, because I thought, oh, you're going to enjoy it.

I thought you would pick things out of it.

Right.

Yeah.

But here you go.

This is

something you, some lesson you take.

Now, the thing that's been promoted widely on the conservative side of this

is there's this racist thing.

There's one scene in the movie.

Two.

Well, the one that I've seen promoted was

a scene where a young African-American woman says you shouldn't trust white people.

And this has been tied to the fact that Barack Obama and Michelle Obama are executive producers or producers of this movie.

It's an anti-racist theme that runs through it.

But that's not my problem with this movie.

Right.

And that's kind of how you sold it to me.

And so,

and I did watch it last night and um can i just tell you i i at the end of it felt like i had wasted two and a half hours of my life that i will never ever get back

it was

the entire time felt like it could be a good movie yeah yeah and then at the end of the movie which i will do my best not to spoil but a little disappointing

a little yeah yeah yeah it was I actually like swore

against your name.

Why?

Lying in bed with my wife, and I said, that mother.

This jerk made me.

I actually was wondering, it crossed my mind whether it was a prank that you, you were like, you got to watch this.

And then I watched it, and then it ended like that.

It was so terrible.

And I was like, did he just screw me out of two and a half hours intentionally?

Well, first of all, the only one I recommended because I thought you would enjoy was Godzilla.

And we went to Godzilla, and you liked it.

I did like it.

This one I just wanted you to watch for work.

Right.

I know you did say that.

It was for work.

But I kind of thought that you, I thought it was going to be a good movie.

No, no, no.

That was an extra bonus for me that you would be watching it and you would be pissed off.

No, so what did you get out of this movie?

Why do you think, what is my problem with this movie?

Because it's not the white thing.

I'm so tired of it.

The white thing.

Yeah, the white thing, just to address it,

the woman who is placed, the daughter,

she

is a black woman who is, I would say, anti-white.

Yeah.

But Julia Roberts.

Tom Roberts is a racist too.

Julie Roberts, this is the first movie I've ever seen her in where she's absolutely unlikable.

Yeah.

Unlikable from the beginning.

I hate people.

Yeah, she was unlikable from the very beginning.

And she is pretty much a racist in the movie.

Yeah.

At least at times.

I think

pretty much the whole time.

I mean, when

they open up the door and, you know,

Julie Roberts' family is renting this house and it's on Long Island.

It's very expensive.

And then you see a Bentley behind this couple.

They ring the doorbell in the middle of the night and it's a black man in a tuxedo and his black daughter also dressed to the nines in the Bentley.

And she, they say, yes what what what and you know like get the baseball back and uh

he so the they go to the door and they said well we just we've had a problem and this is our house and we were wondering if we could stay in the guest house and Julie Roberts is like

This is your house?

Like, how could a black person own a home like this?

Oh, I mean, it's so insulting.

So

the black-white thing was there, and it was almost like, it struck me as a way of like they're almost trying to do a both sides thing.

Yeah.

Even though it was also very just straight out anti-racist.

Okay.

So that was part of it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It is part of it.

But here are the things that I want you to really hear.

There's two clips that I want you to hear.

First of all,

clip one from yesterday, Leave the World Behind.

I have a friend in a cabal.

Why did you really come here?

And don't tell me it's because of your knee.

That wasn't a lie.

I didn't have any surgery.

Twisted it up pretty bad, playing ball down at the Y.

But it's not why you came here.

Why I came here involves something that happened to me

a few years back.

One of my clients invited me and my wife to a private event.

My client, he

well,

I won't say his name, but you'd recognize it though.

Is he a celebrity?

Oh no, nothing like that.

But in the business world, he's one of the biggest out there.

He deals mostly in defense contracting and fucking hush-hush top secret money from the Pentagon.

Perhaps the most powerful person I've ever had a meal with.

Anyway, we are at this soié at his house.

It's getting late.

My wife, she wants to go.

But he and I are just having a blast, and he doesn't want the night to end.

After a few more glares, my wife agrees to take a cab, and I'll come home after.

I bet she was real happy about that.

So we're having a few more drinks, getting really sauced.

And at one point, I don't think he could stand, and I was pretty wobbly myself.

I wouldn't know anything about that, sir.

So he takes me to his study, study, smoke a few cigars, and we're sort of flying high, laughing at almost everything.

Eventually, he starts in how much he likes me and how he wishes he could invite me on this trip he's about to go on.

What kind of trip?

Where is he going?

That's exactly what I asked.

And he

turns to me with a serious face.

And he says,

oh, you know, just my annual meeting with the rest of the evil cabal that runs the world.

He was the kind of guy that was always known for jokes like that.

Again, if I told you his name, you'd understand.

Well, I just have to take your word for it.

And now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to pop off my button.

Then,

yesterday before the symphony, my friend calls me up.

No scheduled appointment like he usually does, just calls me out of the blue

and wants me to move around some of his money.

And we're talking some big numbers, even for him.

And as we're getting off the phone, I asked if he wanted to grab a drink.

He tells me he's going away for a while.

I joke back to him, well yeah,

you hanging with your Iba Cabal this weekend?

Thought that was only during the winter solstice

that he doesn't laugh

then he always laughs even with bad jokes

all he said was

take care of yourself

almost as if he felt sorry for me

ever since i haven't been able to get it out of my head hey stop he goes on to say that

there is a plan um that you turn people against each other.

You have, you know, either inside country forces, outside the country forces.

You turn people against each other.

It's the easiest way to collapse a country.

You create these divisions.

Then you start hitting them with cyber attacks, et cetera, et cetera.

And they don't know who to trust.

And they do the job for the foreign country or the people that are trying to overthrow the country from within, they do it.

They don't have to do anything because the people do it themselves.

Then, one more clip.

So, that's the premise that this is coming.

All right.

Next clip, short one.

Two.

This ends.

If you get back in your vehicle and drive away now, drive away to what?

All the roads are bogged.

We're in the middle of God knows where.

There's no one else around.

I have no idea what I am supposed to do right now.

I can barely do anything without my cell phone and my GPS.

I am a useless man.

But my son is sick.

Stop.

I'm without GPS and my cell phone.

And this is a theme throughout.

All of these people, remember, this is Barack Obama.

All of these people are worthless.

They have no, I mean, you're screaming at the television several times going, what the hell is wrong with you?

Yeah.

Okay.

And, but over and over again, I'm useless without my cell phone.

I don't know what to do.

I don't have GPS.

I don't have an ATM.

The stores are closed.

I don't have a gun.

All the way through.

Now, what message is being sent there?

Because I hope America gets that.

Are you a worthless man?

I think most of us are.

Most of us are.

What are you doing to correct that?

Because it will be your responsibility, those who wait around for the government to show up.

Good luck with that.

Those who think we're all just going to come together and nobody's coming in.

You've got 72 hours if something happens.

72 hours to get to safety.

72.

After that, the world breaks down.

Don't believe me, look at Katrina.

Track that.

Go back and look at the timeline of that.

And then the government comes in and they say, everybody go here.

Don't go there.

Don't go there.

It will be a disaster.

You don't believe me?

Look at the superdome.

Don't be a worthless person.

This is the best of the Glen Beck program.

All right, we have Steve Baker on the phone, Blaze Media Investigative Journalist who has been looking into the January 6th debacle and has made massive headway.

And it's my understanding that

Steve and the team were up in Washington here in the last couple of weeks.

I think some of them just got back yesterday.

Spent a lot of time with the January 6th footage, full access now because of Steve.

And some new stories are coming.

But what a surprise, Steve.

You were notified by the U.S.

Department of Justice.

Yes, good morning.

That was a great good morning I had yesterday.

I bet.

Yeah, we're actually here right now.

I'm actually

talking to you from the secure video room in one of the congressional office buildings in D.C.

We've got our Blaze guys here right now working on the consoles, and we've been here all week.

So we're not going to stop working.

I'm not going to quit doing what I'm doing, and we're just going to move forward regardless of what they throw at us.

Hang on, I want to hear what you are finding.

If you can, give us any kind of hint on what's next coming our way.

But tell me, what are you being charged with now?

Well, they notified my attorney yesterday morning that I needed to self-present or self-surrender myself in Raleigh, North Carolina on Tuesday or Wednesday.

So we're going to arrange for that to happen on Tuesday.

When we asked what the actual charges were going to be, we were told by the FBI agent that he, quote unquote, didn't know and that he wouldn't know until the magistrate signed off on the warrant.

Now they are telling us that I'm going to just be processed and then released on my own recognizance, that I will not be detained, I'll not be held overnight,

and that then, of course, I will be subject to whatever the magistrate decides to put on me.

I don't know whether that will include a surrendering of my devices because again, we haven't seen the warrant.

I don't know if that's going to include a surrendering of my weapons.

I don't know if that's going to include any gag orders of any types.

I don't know if that's going to include restrictions that will prevent me from traveling to D.C.

because that's what usually happens with January 6th defendants.

One of the first things that they do is they prevent travel to D.C.

What a surprise, Steve.

What?

A surprise.

Have you downloaded to the rest of the team so the work can continue?

Have you downloaded what you know and what you're looking for?

And

so the rest of the team can continue if you can't go in.

We have multiple dead man switches.

Okay, good.

There's your answer for that.

And by the way, dead man switch, we know Steve.

He's not suicidal at all.

Not at all.

And apparently can't hang himself with paper sheets.

So he's got that going for him.

Well,

please keep us informed.

You have to surrender on Tuesday.

I know the Blaze will have stories next week on this.

Is there any doubt in your mind?

Because

you were contacted by the Justice Department, what, about six months after January 6th, because you were there.

That's correct.

Yeah, they contacted me in July of 21.

I did my first or my only FBI interview in August of 21.

We were notified by the Department of Justice a month later, the week before Thanksgiving, in November of 21.

We were told that I would be charged within the week

at that time.

And then they dropped off the map and we didn't hear from them until 20 months later, which was August of this year, when I got a subpoena, grand jury subpoena, for all of my January 6th videos.

And what

does your attorney think

that was about?

Well, that was interesting because grand juries are not convened for misdemeanor charges.

They're convened only for felony investigations.

Now, that doesn't mean, because we don't know and they won't tell us anything, that maybe they just wanted my videos for somebody else's investigation.

Maybe it was applicable to what they were looking at for me.

And then there's no assurance that even though there was a grand jury looking at me or the videos, that they will apply a felony account.

Look,

we can assure the world right now, because actually one of our guys right here is harvesting every second of me in the Capitol right now.

We're going to show the world in advance, long before this thing ever goes to trial or any such nonsense, that obviously at any point any time when I was on campus There was never any violence never any property damage.

There was never any untoward behavior.

I didn't wear Trump gear.

I didn't parade.

I wasn't carrying a flag.

You didn't stand on a bench, did you?

God forbid.

I did do that.

I did do that.

Oh, boy.

There is a federal law against that.

I know there is.

So

I may have to plead down to bench standing.

But wait, you did that not as a protester, as a journalist to get a bird's eye view, view, right?

Yes, that's exactly what I did.

I got up and away from the crowd and above the crowd so I could record what was going on in the room.

And that was in the crypt below the rotunda where I did that.

And so

it's going to be an interesting presentation well in advance of whatever the government is putting together because we'll be able to lay it out and show side by side that there were, you know, there were 60 other journalists that we are aware of that traveled through the same breached doors.

And of course, I didn't arrive until after several hundred people were already in the Capitol.

But there were 60 other journalists, many of those who, in fact, went through those doors long before I did or were at the very initial breach that have never been charged.

It just really all comes down to Glenn, who they were submitting their stories and their videos to at the time.

And obviously, you know,

whatever their narrative was, if the headline of their story was, as like the New Yorker's story with Luke Mogleson, among the insurrectionists, well, then he probably got to get out of jail free card for that headline.

Well, but wait a minute, but

you had your video with HBO.

They're not necessarily a flag waiver of the right.

Yeah, they licensed,

they licensed my videos.

New York Times licensed my videos,

as did many other news agencies around the world.

But that was

through my agency.

Okay, so can I ask you just a couple of frank questions?

Because we just really got to know each other recently.

And, you know,

are you a hardened, you know, Nazi lover that is, you know, I don't know, burning crosses?

You say lead conversations with this question.

You're waiting to know how to ask him.

We haven't gotten to our, are you a member of the Nazi party part of our, of our friendship yet?

But

Glenn, I usually get dinner and a couple drinks before I get to ask questions like that.

No, absolutely not.

I am

if you analyze my politics, I am what I refer to as a pragmatic libertarian, and I have

never had any associations with any militias, any 3%ers, any proud boys, oath keepers, or otherwise.

And I have

basically kept to myself and kept my musical career for most of my life as a trumpet player and a singer.

And

my journalism was my

side hustle, as they say, for 20, 25 years.

And that was accelerated when COVID came to town, and I was not allowed to work in the music business for a year and a half.

So I moved my journalism and my investigative research into the captain's chair of my life.

And then January 6th happened.

And so that became a primary focus of what I've been working on.

Well, we are obviously going to be following your story.

And

every indication is that exactly what you've said.

And as you say, our team is there looking at all the video footage of you right now to make sure that we have the story and can get it out, but also all of the other things that you're looking into.

Can you give us a sneak peek on anything else that you're working on for January 6th?

Yeah,

I can tell you that we are continuing our stories on the Capitol Police.

There's a real focus there.

In fact, I don't have a second's worth of hesitation to tell you that the story that we came out with last Thursday, Friday that directly showed Capitol Police cover-up in corruption at the highest level,

probably triggered this action from the DOJ.

And I don't mind.

Go over that story for anybody who didn't see it.

Yeah, the story was that a particular police officer who we have been covering issued an anonymous letter on Capitol Police Letterhead back in May of 21.

It was highly partisan, highly political,

major violation of the Hatch Act, major violation of

the Capitol Police rules and regulations for their officers.

And he was prompted to write this letter.

It was a political screed against the Republicans that were opposed to Nancy Pelosi's January 6th Select Committee.

And as a result of a prompting he got from Representative Raskin of all people,

and

that was a situation where he took Raskin's

prompting and went and created this letter and then also solicited help from the Capitol press pool.

And then he had actually some female reporters in the press pool assist him in crafting this anonymous letter.

And when this was released on May 19th and May 20th, it was discovered the next day, because his cop's not very bright, he used his Capitol Police email and he used Capitol Police printers to print off hard copies.

And so he was brought in for, and his investigation began the next day.

And we revealed that not only did he initially lie about

the action that he had taken using Capitol Police resources and time to craft a highly partisan political anonymous letter misrepresenting the department that this was what would be called a terminable offense.

He should have been fired on the spot.

There was a problem with that though, Clenn.

We're talking about Harry Dunn, the hero of January 6th, as the media has put forth.

So rather than taking disciplinary action against him,

the Capitol Police spiked that report.

They let him off with what they call a 534 warning, which means that was just a warning, just a slap on the wrist.

Don't do that again, Harry.

And he got by with it.

So rather than being in a terminal event, he was

not disciplined at all and therefore was allowed to testify in those Oathkeeper trials.

And, of course, we know where that goes from there.

So you see the connectivity there.

Okay, we're talking.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

No, finish.

Just to finish that up,

one of the things that we've been able to do, and I've been able through sources over the last couple of years, is I do have and have been able to capture some internal communications between Oathkeeper leadership, and we know that they are livid over.

In fact,

on Friday's report, when I released the names involved, Harry Dunn,

Representative Jamie Raskin, Wendy Wilde, I'm sorry, Whitney Wilde from CNN, who participated in this.

Anonymous letter, when I put all this together and published that, the chief counsel for the Capitol Police actually called me that Twitter guy, Steve Baker,

for releasing this information.

And so we're seeing, we're learning, we're knowing about these kinds of things that are happening, and we know that they're upset.

And his name is

Tad,

I think it's D.B.

or The Bias or something like that.

And he's the chief counsel.

He's a former federal prosecutor, former assistant U.S.

Attorney, and he works with the Department of Justice on these cases related to January 6th.

And so we're pretty sure

we don't have to stretch this too far to imagine that this is probably what triggered this action against me after two and a half years.

Steve Baker, investigative journalist, Blaze Media contributor, and now famously that Twitter guy.

Thank you for everything.

Steve, we're going to be following following this obviously very closely.

And

good luck.

Good luck.

Stay safe, please.

Thank you, Clint.

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

We have so many cuts from the top 10 moments from last year.

And we've got Waylay today, but I want to put them together

for you to be able to watch.

and be able to listen to because it tells us a little something about us

and what we are, what we're really following.

Kind of unlike Chris Cuomo, I don't, I don't, did you see that, what's his name?

Lemon.

Don Lemon?

Don Lemon.

He's like, I'm listening to Ben Shapiro now.

Are you, Don?

Are you, really?

And Chris Cuomo,

he just did something on October 7th.

on the footage on October 7th.

Do we have that?

That's cut too?

This is Chris Cuomo on his show talking about on his News Nation show recapping what he saw on a private screening of October 7th footage.

And he.

I understand the sensitivity of the families.

I understand the concern that if you don't want to believe that October 7th happened, well, then it doesn't matter what you see.

But I do believe for many, for many,

that

there's an aspect of this that I don't think we appreciate.

I realized something that I had missed before, okay?

It took me immediately and deeply into a past trauma.

The exact feeling that I had when I learned why 9-11 happened.

Terrorists targeted the Twin Towers in Washington, D.C.

to take out the great symbols that represent America.

The method was not madness.

They were sane.

They were just evil.

But the method was a message.

Their unholy efforts triggered what America's feared most.

Terrorists robbing us of who and what we are about at home.

So,

if an enemy wanted to make sure that Israel

would come for them,

the message would be, we're going to take children, women, innocents, and more, tie them up and burn them alive.

Just like the Holocaust.

The ultimate fear of what the world can bring the Jews' way.

When a decision is made that Jews are less than human and treated that way in words and deeds, I now know that is exactly the message Hamas sent on purpose.

Okay, stop.

You have a mug, Stu.

Chris Cuomo is an awful.

Andrew Cuomo is awful.

Chris Cuomo is worse.

Both of that.

Yeah, he's, you know, look, he's come a long way from show me in the Constitution where it says you have to be peaceful.

Yeah.

I'm glad that.

So was that CNN's effect on him?

Is this, I was out of a job and

I better change my point of view?

What is that?

I think the fundamental defining characteristic of Chris Cuomo is not that he was ever liberal.

It's that he wants a lot of attention.

So I think that's a show with him.

I would love to watch an episode of you

doing kind of like I do with my sit-downs

where

you

were not saying, you know, hey, I'm your buddy, but you just asking the tough questions about all the things because you have.

You wrote the book on his bad side.

Yeah, I mean,

I'd like to never think of him again.

It would honestly be my preference.

But we actually did invite him on the show at one point, and he, of course, you know, didn't want to come on.

This is years ago now.

Yeah.

But it might be different now.

Yeah.

I mean, there's a desperation involved.

But I think that's kind of what he is.

Like, he's a, he, he, you know, there's a Geraldo in him.

Yes.

You know what I mean?

He just wants everyone to be talking about him.

He wants to be the center of attention.

So I think there's a like he did this with, you see this interview he did with the Tourette's influencer.

Oh, no, he didn't.

Yeah.

Did you see that?

You didn't see this?

On hint with him?

Yeah.

Is she the blonde?

I think she's blonde, yeah.

She is.

I follow her.

I've wanted to reach out, and I thought, ah, I don't want to be a circus show.

So, of course, Chris did.

But I love her.

I love her.

Love her.

But that was not Chris's take.

Chris, I think, again, I don't know the whole back.

I don't watch Chris's show, to be fair, but I did see this clip, and he seems to refer to it in a clip where

thought she was an actress or something.

Like, she thought she was faking it.

You know, you see what you,

you sometimes see in people what you are.

I didn't think of that.

Do you have the clip?

You should do the interview with him.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Here's the clip.

This is from his show, News Nation.

What do you want people to learn?

I want people to learn that Tourette

is

a neurological, involuntary, motor, and vocal disorder.

Oh, fuck off, f off.

I don't tick 24-7 and there's a lot of

little baby wings.

F off.

F you, Chris.

There's a lot of things that people don't understand.

Like

people think

that cussing is

with everyone who has Tourette's syndrome, but it's only in 10% of people with Tourette's.

And how has it been as you've gotten more famous?

Do you believe that people are understanding better or are they dopes like me who think you're acting?

I say it's, I say it's

the worst.

He's the worst.

He's the worst.

What's the point of doing an interview with a guy like that, honestly?

The first video I saw about two minutes into it, because I saw it and I thought.

If she is faking this, this is one of the worst things I've ever seen.

And you get about a minute and a half and you're like, oh no, this is real.

And she is so sweet.

Her mom and dad are so great.

Her brother is amazing.

And she, she is so brave to go online and make these videos because, you know, Chris Cuomo's of the world.

But I'm glad he's changed his mind on her.

I, I, she gives me hope.

I follow a bunch of people that have really, in some ways, the average person would go, they have no reason.

to

have any hope.

And they're just the bravest people you've I've ever seen out there.

And

have you seen the guy who is handicapped, who is

preaching and he says, hey, it's time to pray.

I want to pray for you now.

I'm not.

Oh, he is great too.

There's

look this holiday season for people that are,

I follow some of them, so you can get some of them for my Instagram.

But

I just like, at the end of the day, if I've had a bad day, I'll go on Instagram and I'll just watch inspirational things, you know, weed out all the other crap.

Just watch some inspirational things.

There are some people that will just make you feel so good

because they're so good.

And I think she's one of them.

I just love her.

Yeah, that's great.

Now I'm bummed I didn't reach out for an interview for her because.

Yeah, he didn't edit it, by the way.

We edited the clips.

So he let all the F-bombs go because, of course, again, it's about his attention.

Yeah, no, but I think I might do that too because it's, it's,

it's so raw.

You see what I watch, I watch and I think she has everything going for her, everything going for, except living in a world that is like, okay, freak, I can't deal with that.

You know what I mean?

I mean, and it's hard.

Look, it's hard.

It's hard for everybody.

Oh, and obviously really hard for her.

But like, at one point, you, you mentioned, like, he looks like he's kind of like smiling, almost like smirking at her comments.

And it's like, I don't know what else you, what else do you do in that moment?

It's like someone's saying something to you that's completely inappropriate.

You know,

he's not, you know, you almost have to acknowledge to the audience, like, I know this is a little bit different.

Like, you almost have to.

So Richard Paul Evans, he has Tourette's.

And he's done a million interviews with us, but never sounded like that.

Well, because that's another way it manifests in him.

He said his biggest problem is he wants to spit in the face of famous people.

And I have to remind him all the time, I'm not that famous.

But he said to me, one time we were in an interview and I said, Are you all right?

You know, he was talking about something.

He seemed to get a little lost or something.

I said, Are you all right?

And he said, I cannot tell you how much strength it is taking not to spit in your face.

And I said,

Brother, half the country would cheer for you.

Yeah.

And have shared that exact thought.

Yeah, you know, exactly.

That's the least.

That's the bottom rung of that ladder.

No, no, no, no.

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