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As the Trump lead widens,

prosecutors step up pursuit.

This is from the Washington Examiner.

Two things are true today.

One, former President Donald Trump's polling nationally in key swing states and in the first voting state of Iowa has never been better.

And two,

the special counsel appointed by the Biden Justice Department to prosecute Trump is taking a self-described, extraordinary measure in a rush to put Trump on trial before the presidential election.

Huh.

How's that going to work out?

Later on in the program, I have Mark Levin on to talk about that.

We're also going to talk to an expert about

plagiarism and Harvard University and what's going on there.

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So yesterday, on yesterday's broad podcast,

we talked about

how does this end?

I mean, let's just play this out.

How does this end?

The next 12 months are going to decide America's future.

And think of the pressures that are upon us.

You've got war.

If we have time, I'll get into what's happening in Ukraine and what the president did yesterday.

And, you know, we played yesterday the audio of

Lindsey Graham and John McCain in 2016 saying, right after the election, this is going to be the year 2017.

We're coming and we're going to teach Russia and Putin a lesson.

And that didn't happen.

I think Trump thwarted that.

So what happens?

His second term is lost, and we go where?

Right into Ukraine.

So we have that.

We have the economy.

We have the trouble on our streets.

We have all these pressures on us.

And now let's throw this log on the fire.

We have Donald Trump and Joe Biden

In normal scenarios, that wouldn't necessarily be so bad, but we're not in a normal scenario.

You have Donald Trump running, who the left is trying to knock out.

They're trying to take your choice away.

They're trying to make sure that he can't run, and they're doing using every trick in the book.

How does that work out, do you think?

If Donald Trump

goes to jail,

Do you think

there's maybe 20%,

hell with that, 10% of our nation that will not stand for that?

I think that's a pretty easy bet.

What do they do?

I don't know.

What does the FBI help them do?

I don't know.

So

if he goes to jail, bad news, if he doesn't go to jail

and Biden runs, let me ask you, Biden runs and he wins, is anybody on the left or anybody on the right going to believe it?

I'm not.

I mean, I just have a really hard time.

If there's anything funny going on, I'll have a really hard time.

If

he loses,

what's that outcome?

We'd be happy.

Do you think the left is just going to sit around and not set the country on fire?

Do you think they're not going to do what Hillary Clinton said to do with Joe Biden last time?

Never concede, never concede, never concede.

It was a stolen election.

So you got the same scenario.

So

what is the plan?

That I can't come up with another way out

on those two things.

Trump wins, Biden wins.

Trump goes to jail.

Trump doesn't go to jail.

Biden loses.

I mean, I can't think of other scenarios.

I'm pretty good at this.

Okay.

Let me give you one more.

How does this one end?

Biden runs.

We're getting up to the election.

They decide there's There's not going to be a debate.

And we all know it's because Biden, in a year from now, is going to degrade even more cognitively.

And so he's looking worse and worse when he does speak.

And so they keep him out and there's no debates.

That's not going to work out well.

And if that's happening, people will know both in and out of the Democratic Party, oh my dear Lord, it's Kamala

is going to be the president.

If she's the president, at any time, the world's on fire.

But I don't think anybody wants her to be the president on the left.

So what happens?

Kamala Harris replaces as the top of the ticket.

Trump wins.

Unbelievable.

Streets on fire, right?

But if Biden and the Democrats know that he's he's not going to make it, what they should do is replace Kamala Harris.

But they can't

because she was a token.

Remember, I'm going to find a black woman.

Oh, okay.

Well, let's not go get the best person.

Let's just go get the person of color.

If you want to know how that ends, just see what's happening at Harvard right now.

The left will set the streets on fire.

So there's no way out there.

Now let me share something with you that only the Democratic Party can do.

The Democratic Party, after the election of Ronald Reagan,

they did not want that to happen to them.

Some outsider cannot just come in.

What do the people know?

So we need to have veto power and they're called superdelegates.

These superdelegates at this point have all been chosen by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

They're in the bag for all the elites.

And it is within their purview to vote against what the public has voted for.

So you're a Democrat, you go out to the polls, you vote for Joe Biden, and they get together and they say, Joe Biden is a disaster.

Nobody really wants him, but nobody stepped up to take it from him.

We can't make this happen.

We can't let this happen.

It'll be a disaster.

And so they have the power then to override the vote of the primary.

And they can nominate

Michelle Obama.

People ask all the time, who's really running the country?

My guess is the traffic between Georgetown

and the White House pretty high.

My guess is

it's the Obama administration that is actually running this place.

And they're letting him do

all of the tough things, all of the tough things.

Let him do it.

He serves one term.

Who could possibly be elected on such a short period of time?

Who has the name recognition?

Who has the trust?

Who can remind people how great it was that Remember when Barack was in office?

We just got started and then we had to leave.

And, oh, and then Donald Trump, and we're going to finish this.

It's the first female black president, Michelle Obama.

The only one that is going to have a problem with this in the Democratic Party will be Michelle Obama.

She doesn't like the country.

She hated the White House.

But boy, wouldn't that

be something

the only as a fiction writer

the only scenario that works for me

that I can see playing out in anything other than a disaster, but as always

the Democrats always have a win-win scenario.

It's always bad for America, but it's win-win for them.

He runs, he loses, the country's set on fire, the president still has executive power,

he takes control.

It was a unfair and rigged election, and January 6th and whatever.

The streets are on fire for at least three months if there's inauguration.

I'm not saying there wouldn't be, but streets are on fire for three months.

Dramatically impacts America.

Okay, that's a win if you're trying to destroy the country.

And then

if you realize that the globalists are really the ones who are buying, you know, $15 million homes on islands,

who couldn't pay their student loans when they got into the presidency.

If you realize those globalists are really the ones behind the scenes pulling the strings anyway,

all you would need is just to soften people up onto what could be coming.

Oh, that reminds me.

Last night I saw the Netflix movie, Leave the World Behind.

What a great movie that is.

I've got a lot to say about that.

I'm going to have to save it for tomorrow.

Stu, have you seen it yet?

No, I haven't seen it.

You need to watch it.

It's the one clip I've seen.

Watch it.

It's not about race.

Everybody is making this about race.

That's not the key thing you should be looking for.

Yes, it's in there.

Yes, it's obnoxious.

I don't, honestly, I watched it last night.

You'll have a hard time liking any of the characters.

There's one guy that you kind of like when he first shows up.

Well, two.

the two husbands, the two men.

You kind of like them,

but they're idiots.

They're absolute idiots.

And then the racist thing goes on.

There's a couple of points in that movie that I don't hear anyone talking about.

It's the number one movie in 89 countries on Netflix.

Number one movie.

Barack Obama was instrumental in that movie.

He helped shape that movie.

He gave notes on what was plausible, what wasn't.

If an EMP happens, what is it really going to be like?

How would the government react?

He knows.

It's almost...

Wow, it's almost like...

Some sort of cognitive preparation, something to get people to

look at something and go, oh, okay, well, that could happen.

Because what after you watch it, if you're a prepper

and you're watching that, your mood's not going to improve.

You're not going to go, you know what, I think I have enough.

Every American should watch this movie because it's plausible.

And they specifically say it's Korea.

Somebody else says, no, it's Islamic Jihad.

That is clearly Russia,

Iran, and North Korea.

Where's that coming from?

Watch that movie because tomorrow I'm going to talk about it, and it's really, really important.

But the main message to me from me today is

get your spiritual house in order.

Get your temporal house in order.

Because next year,

it's going to be interesting to see how this all works out, isn't it?

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I want to address what I think is the biggest lie of the holidays.

And this comes from something personal.

I was just reading that commercial there for American Financing.

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I remember when I couldn't put anything on my credit card,

I, because I only, I learned from my parents, only American Express.

It forces you to pay it off every month so you can't get behind.

So I've never carried another credit card and

been spooked by credit cards my whole life because my parents cut them up and threw them in the fireplace because, you know, they went broke.

And I didn't have any money.

And I was living in the same apartment building that Stu was living in, and you were what, 19 years old, 18 years old?

Yeah, something like that.

You, he started as an intern, and I,

who was the host of the morning show,

was living in the same apartment complex, okay?

Broke, broke, broke.

I think he actually had more money.

I was living off of food certificates that the radio station would give away, okay.

Um,

and I remember the first Christmas like that, and I couldn't afford anything for my kids.

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10 years later, when I had turned my life around and had become successful, I went out and I bought everything I could think of for my kids.

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The Christmas

that I was broke.

I actually remember that, and so do the kids.

They remember that Christmas.

None of my kids remember the one where it was, the presents were plentiful.

And I just remember after all the presents were open, how empty everything felt.

The biggest lie is that you have to buy something for Christmas.

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Our founders would have been abhorred by what Christmas has turned into.

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There's a couple of things going on with

a woman that runs Harvard.

And one of them is, hey, I have to have a room with...

with color crayons and comic books so you can read a comic book and then, you know, color a happy tree because you feel like you're being you know

you have microaggressions all around you

stopping free speech everywhere unless you're calling for you know the death of Jews then I guess hey well we know free speech it's crazy but there's something else that has now been brought brought up that I think people knew about in the Harvard world but didn't say anything and that is the fact that its president, Claudine Gay,

broke Harvard's own code of conduct on plagiarism.

And it's a pretty significant amount of plagiarism,

including her doctoral dissertation,

was plagiarized.

Parts of it were wholly plagiarized, and she never credited anybody.

Now, here's why this matters.

You plagiarize something.

I don't really care.

You plagiarize something in a book and claim it's yours.

Okay, I care because that's stealing from somebody else.

You plagiarize in a university.

Well, you're setting the standards and trying to hold those standards of academic excellence and honesty.

And if the person who's at the top is known to have plagiarized, how do you tell the students we're going to kick you out?

This has nothing to do with her testimony, but it has everything to do with how corrupt our

universities are, how morally corrupt they are.

We have

Aaron Sabarium on with us now.

He wrote a great piece for the Washington Free Beacon, and we wanted to talk to him about this.

You went to Yale,

and you were the editor of the Yale Daily News.

So you know something about Ivy League and

plagiarism.

Not really celebrated, is it?

No, Glenn, it is not.

It is not celebrated.

And in fact,

I would say that generally at all of these schools, it's standard to get a lecture saying it doesn't matter how small, it doesn't matter if

it's unintentional,

even if you do it with the best intentions,

it's still a serious problem.

You should double check your work to make sure absolutely nothing is plagiarized.

That is what Harvard tells its students in a very long document that outlines its policies very clearly.

It no fewer than five times indicates that intent is irrelevant.

If you take any language or even just ideas or content from someone else and don't cite them, it's plagiarism.

And according to the letter of the Harvard plagiarism policies, Gay clearly violated them on at least some occasions.

Yeah, and like significant.

I mean, you and your article go through it.

We don't have to go through it here, but it's significant.

Why does this matter?

Well, look, you know, if people do make mistakes, and if this were,

if this was what we found out of a corpus of, say, 100 or 200 peer-reviewed papers, one of which had won a Nobel Prize, you might think, okay,

it's a few paragraphs here or there, but the overall content is original.

Is this such a big deal?

I think it's worth emphasizing that she has published, in total 11 peer-reviewed articles, 11 in the past

two decades.

That is a really,

really small number

for any academic, I think, at a prestigious university, but especially for the academic that the university chooses to elevate to

its highest position.

So you're not talking about a few instances of maybe careless citations or plagiarism out of 100 papers.

You're talking about it out of 11 papers, right?

So we found,

so there have been, you know, 11 peer-reviewed articles.

In two of them, we found examples of plagiarism, then in her dissertation, then in another thing she wrote that was in a non-peer-reviewed journal.

So this starts to amount to a pretty substantial percentage of her academic output that contains at least some plagiarized material.

So, as a percentage thing, I think that that's actually the best way to look at it.

It's not just a couple mistakes here or there.

It seems to be a pattern, and it's a pattern that

is fairly consistent throughout two decades of relatively neither

scholarly output.

So, this is not anything new.

I mean, it's my understanding that this has kind of been known and kicked around for a while, but just kept quiet.

It didn't matter.

Is that true?

Well, yeah, it appears to be true because just last night, the New York Post reported that they had many of these examples and confronted Harvard with them all the way back in October.

And Harvard claimed, oh, we addressed it promptly as soon as it was brought to our attention.

We initiated a review of Gay's work, and Dr.

Gay requested corrections proactively.

Well, what the Harvard Corporation didn't didn't mention is that apparently they

intimidated, may have even threatened to sue the New York Post for defamation

after the New York Post reached out for comment.

So Harvard apparently took this seriously enough that they thought it was worth hiring the best defamation law firm in the country, Cuera Locke, God knows how much they were paying them,

to send a 15-page

intimidation letter to journalists who are coming to them with examples of plagiarism.

So clearly, they thought that it was worth pulling out the big bucks.

Shelly had a lot of money to shut this down, and that was all the way back in October.

So, why would they do this

to protect?

I mean, why?

I think that Claudine Gay

is

emblematic of

the kind of DEI ideology

that is regnant at Harvard.

You know, some people have focused on her race and gender, and I'm sure, you know, they don't want the optis the firing of Harvard's first black president.

Yeah, of course.

But I actually think it's more than that.

It's that she

She both kind of represents the ideology they already subscribe to, and they don't want the ideology discredited.

And also,

this I think hasn't gotten as much attention.

She was a very shrewd political operator before she became president.

She was sort of at the center of a lot of cancellations, right?

She helped engineer the bureaucratic demonstration of both Roland Fryer, who's this really famous black economist at Harvard, and she helped also strip,

what's his name, Ronald Sullivan, Harvard law professor from an administrative post after Sullivan

made the decision to serve on Harvey Weinstein's defense team.

You can't defend the unpopular,

that's no longer allowed.

So she,

you know, I think kind of

had

a pattern of rewarding friends and punishing enemies

and seems to have kind of maneuvered the administration and bureaucratic apparatus of Harvard around her very shrewdly.

That's part of how she became

president.

And I think that that

background may be part of why they're so unwilling to let her go.

The whole kind of institution has, in some sense, been

mobilized around her and she's kind of put all the pieces in place.

Does it play any role that her first cousin is Roxanne Gay, who is a

feminist author and New York Times writer who's

absolutely a terrible human being.

You know, honestly,

I don't know if that really, I think they would do this with just about anyone in her position.

Anyone in her position, anyone with her ideology.

I mean, and I would say, too, right, they've obviously been under pressure from donors,

but they're also under pressure from their own faculty and students.

And, you know, you mentioned the testimony she gave where she couldn't forthrightly

condemn calls for the genocide of Jews.

I think part of the issue is that she couldn't really go up there and say, yeah, we support free speech in all cases.

And in fact, yes, even if you want to call for the genocide of insert other groups, we will protect that because we're so principled.

A, because it wouldn't be true, and we all know it's not true.

But B, because if she had said that,

you know, student activists would have come try and tried to burn her house down.

Right.

So they really, she's, to be fair to her, she is kind of in a crack in a hard place.

And no matter what she does or what Harvard does, some constituency is going to throw a fit.

Well, I have to tell you, you know, I don't want to see harm come to anybody, but, you know, gee if if you get nailed by your own policies

and your life is tough because you shoveled this poison and now that poison is coming back to haunt you.

I, you you know, I have a hard time, again, with nobody being hurt.

I have a really hard time, you know, giving any sympathy to her at all.

Thank you so much.

One last question: Is this an issue outside of her?

Should this be an issue outside of her testimony?

In other words, is this just being brought up because there's a mob on the other side that is saying, hey,

she should be fired for this.

Is this a real issue beyond the anti-Semitism stuff?

Obviously, the anti-Semitism stuff increased scrutiny on her.

I mean, it'd be silly to deny that, but I think it would still be an issue.

You know,

the plagiarism isn't quite as severe as, say, it's not like data fraud, right?

There's a guy at Stanford, actually, a former Stanford president, stepped down amid allegations of data fraud.

I mean, that was really serious, right?

On its own terms.

I think this would be a scandal on its own.

The anti-Semitism stuff obviously amplifies it, makes it worse.

But again, I think the real context here is the meager scholarly record, right?

Again, I really don't think people would care.

I wouldn't care all that much if we had found this and it was in the context of like 200 brilliant peer-reviewed papers.

But that's not the context.

And I think that what it underscores is that this woman clearly was not chosen for her scholarly merits.

If that was the criterion, they would have chosen.

They had a lot of other candidates at Harvard that

would have been better.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate all your work and all your writing.

God bless.

Thank you.

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Yes, yes, yes.

Welcome.

All right.

So

Hunter Biden is going in to, he's ready to answer all the GOP questions.

He just held a press conference a minute ago live, and here's what he said.

For six years, MAGA Republicans, including members of the House committees who are in a closed-door chess session right now.

I've invited my character.

I invaded my privacy.

Attacked my wife.

Hey, can we stop for just a second?

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

Attacked his character?

What character?

Invaded his privacy.

What privacy?

You put everything on your laptop and then left it.

I mean,

what privacy?

What else did he say we invaded?

I mean, I mean, just that is enough, but go ahead.

Okay, stop there.

Your friends and the boards that you were on, they're littered with either communist or criminals.

And people who have come out to say that you were in the middle of committing criminal acts.

Yeah, your other friends, it's not the GOP doing it.

It's your other friends who have come out and said that you are taking money from really bad people.

Just point that out.

They ridiculed my struggle with addiction.

Nobody has stealing my character.

Invaded my privacy.

Attacked my wife.

Okay.

So wait a minute.

But wait.

Stop.

Maybe we've ridiculed

his battles with addiction a little bit.

Maybe a little.

I mean, the dude turned in a Hertz rental car with a line of Coke on the dashboard.

That's mockable.

Yeah.

It is.

I'm sorry.

We weren't mocking his

struggle to stop.

No.

No, it didn't seem like he was struggling at all.

No, he seemed to be handling the purchase of women and drugs.

He spent over $300,000 on various women, according to the IRS.

And that's in one year.

That's what I was going to say.

That's in one year.

It's two separate years.

It was still six figures, but

it wasn't quite up to the $300,000 standard in that wonderful, I think, 2018 year.

So, and you know,

when you're weighing your crack cocaine

and you're using your phone to videotape it at the same time, I really, I mean, I think you're asking for it.

Tried to deduct a trip to an exotic dancer by claiming that he purchased art.

Now, I guess there is some art involved in exotic dancing

or in the G-string of the dancer.

I suppose that's true, but I don't think that's what the IRS believes.

You don't?

No.

Oh.

Well, they seem to have.

I mean, for a while there, they seem to have no problem with that.

Yeah.

So,

okay.

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Mark Levin.

How are you, my friend?

Mr.

Glenn Beck.

Let me look.

I'm good.

Thank you.

Good, good, good.

I'm pretty good.

You know, I'm a little concerned about, you know, 2024.

I can't come up with a scenario where it ends well,

but maybe you can.

It's such a mess.

I mean, you've got people talking third-party.

I think it's

Nikki Haley, who I really oppose.

I mean, I call her George Bush in a dress, and she pretty much is.

With her foreign policy,

she is.

With her foreign policy, actually.

Well, look at her domestic policy.

As soon as she wanted to invite the Palestinians in Gaza into our country, she lost her mind.

Yeah, that's

she

gave land to communist China in South Carolina, and now she pretends she's a hardliner.

She's never been a leader on any of the issues that matter to us,

whether it's abortion, whether it's the border.

whether it's tax cuts.

And I looked at these allegations by DeSantis, and he's right.

Go on and Google them.

Look at them.

She refused to sign a bill that said men use men's rooms and ladies use ladies' rooms.

Now,

when it came to the woke war, she sided with Disney.

I'm going, what's going on here?

This woman is not going to be able to fight the Marxist revolution that is surrounding us and swirling around us today,

which is why Karl Rove and Romney

and this guy Fink at Blackstone or Black Rock, whatever the hell they call themselves, all these people, including liberal Democrat billionaires who are going to vote for Biden, are backing her.

So she goes third party.

You know, the rhinos are the fifth column.

They're the fifth column in our party, and frankly, they're the fifth column in this country, along with the media.

The Democrats, once they get their fighting out of the way, they'll back Biden.

They would back a Kumquat for president.

But our guys, they'll splinter.

The base is always supposed to march behind whatever the Republican establishment does.

But this goes to your point, doesn't it?

Which is

it's concerning.

The way you feel about Nikki Haley, would you fall in line behind her?

I don't have to.

She's going to fall before I have to fall.

No, I know, but if she were the candidate.

No, I've had enough.

Okay.

All right.

Me too.

Me too.

However,

if it's Biden or I think Michelle Obama, I'd vote for a Kumquat.

Yeah, and I don't think it'll be Michelle Obama.

By the way, you haven't heard a word from her, have you?

No, we haven't, but I just,

it's the only scenario that works out.

I mean, it looks pretty convention.

Yeah, that the,

you know, the super delegates, they just forget the vote.

They just say, you know what, he's too ill or whatever.

He's too frail.

You know, the Democrats want another choice.

Let's just re-nominate Michelle Obama.

Believe it or not, if that happens, I think they're going to swing to Hillary.

But it doesn't matter what we think.

The problem is what's happening right now

is this grotesque effort to try and put Donald Trump in prison.

So

you read

this a-hole who filed this with the Supreme Court.

He's always wanting to cut the corners.

He doesn't get attorney-client privilege, so ruled an Obama judge.

All these privileges, presidential privilege, executive privilege, attorney-client privilege, all deny Donald Trump.

He doesn't want to go through the normal appellate process because he can't get his trial going before the election.

You know, it takes years to have a full-blown criminal trial, particularly when you're raising, you're creating constitutional issues of first impression.

So he brings us to this point.

Now he's demanding that the Supreme Court hear his his motion against Trump as soon as possible.

And these dimwits, they say, okay,

we'll consider your argument.

Trump's lawyers, you have one week to respond.

What?

You had a case in Pennsylvania during the course of this election, not about ballots, not about voting machines, a pure constitutional question, a legitimate question about who gets to decide and write election laws in the state.

The governor?

the Board of Elections, or the legislature, like the Constitution says in black and white.

They wouldn't even take up that case.

You have other cases that people are waiting for in front of the Supreme Court, not to get too much in the weeds.

These Enron case, they use the obstruction in the Enron case against these Jace January 6ers, which doesn't apply.

It doesn't even meet the elements.

So they're on appeal all the way to the Supreme Court, and the same day the court says, okay, we want to hear these arguments on the motion from Jack the Ripper Smith there.

The court says, we're going to pun on this for now.

Maybe we'll consider it later in the year or next year.

You've got people sitting in jail.

So this is really amazing.

You have a case, this Judge Chunken,

I had a great lawyer on my program,

Schoen is his name, David Schoen, and he said, Mark, I've been sitting three years waiting for a decision from this judge who wants to have a trial on Trump.

in a five-month period.

It's all a setup.

And so this guy, Jack Smith, the courts are bending over backwards to accommodate this guy.

He wins every single motion.

Trump loses every single motion in front of this radical Obama judge.

The appellate court, which is overwhelmingly Democrat because when Terry Reid was the Senate leader and Obama was president, they added seats to the D.C.

circuit and filled it with Democrats.

This recent panel had two Obama appointees and one Biden appointee.

The judge that Trump's dealing with now is an Obama appointee.

The judge Trump was dealing with before that was another Obama appointee.

And now we go to the Supreme Court, and I'll tell you, Glenn,

John Roberts is a huge problem.

John Roberts is like this guy, Michael Ludig.

They hate Trump.

They're Republicans.

But, you know, they're proper Republicans.

They don't like the tweeting.

You know, they don't like the language.

Oh, my goodness, all this stuff's going on here.

It's just so unseemly.

It's so improper.

You know, they're just used to losing the country very properly.

But what's happening here, in my view, is we have a Potemkin criminal justice system.

We have judges that wear black robes.

You go into

these mahogany-paneled courtrooms.

You've got a prosecutor standing over there.

He gets his desk.

The defense gets their desk.

Eventually, you have a trial.

The jury sits over there.

It all looks so proper.

It all looks so constitutional.

And it's all bullcrap because all these movements and actions before this trial, the motions filings, the decisions on the motion filings and everything,

they will determine the outcome of this election.

And just finally, I know I'm rambling a bit, but I tend to do that.

One of the things that troubles me a lot here is this.

This guy charges Trump with a Klan Act violation, with two Enron violations, and a federal contractor violation.

These four statutes.

So it was bogus.

It is bogus.

But his arguments, which had been allowed by this judge, his paper filings, are all about insurrection and seditious conspiracy.

In other words, and this is a grotesque violation of

prosecutorial ethics, grotesque.

He is making the case.

without having proved the elements of the crimes that he's basically arguing for, that Donald Trump knew or had to know that what he was saying, what he was doing, what he was texting, what he was reading, prove

that he wanted a violent event to occur that day.

So why didn't you charge him with that?

He's not charged with violence about anything.

He's charged with the Klan Act and obstruction and all the rest of these things.

And the judge rules, oh, that's okay.

What's okay?

So he's charged with four phony charges,

but this guy's arguing something completely different.

And other serious litigators or former federal prosecutors or whatever are saying this is not the way this is supposed to be done.

And it's all happening.

The Supreme Court should not take this case up.

There's no emergency reason why this case has by the way, if you read this motion,

this clown keeps talking about the public interest.

The people have a right to know.

What does he know about the public interest?

He sits holed up.

He's in a room with 10 other reprobates.

They're making all these decisions on their own, and then they speak for the public.

Well, they sure as hell don't speak for 80 million people.

And so the judiciary, I would argue, is doing severe damage to this country, allowing incredible interference in this election process.

And when it's all said and done, they'll never recover.

I will tell you that John Roberts is the kind of guy who thinks

we should rule on this and let this go forward.

Otherwise, we'll be blamed for it.

And they'll say, oh, it's the judicial activism of the Supreme Court.

So we're protecting the Supreme Court by letting this small injustice, as they would think, just let this pass.

Let them do it and they hash it out and then our hands are clean.

It's an act of pontius pilot, quite honestly.

100%.

Yeah.

I call him Hollywood John.

He's very worried about what's said about him and thought about him.

His wife and Thomas Friedman over there at the New York Times, they're best friends.

They get caught up in these social circles, which always go the way of the left.

And I don't trust this guy.

I don't even trust Kavanaugh.

And Barrett is a complete disappointment because she's right under Roberts' wing.

You really have three tremendous constitutionalists.

Then you've got a couple of rhinos, and then you've got the hardcore left Democrats.

I'm worried about this.

So Alan Dershowitz has said, just based on the speed of this trial, he's like,

there's no way Donald Trump could even prepare

for a defense.

And he said, we are at a banana republic if that isn't stopped.

He's like, there's no way

that this trial should go forward next year only because of the amount and volume of documents that have to be processed.

He said,

it's criminal if they speed this trial up or they let it go at this rate.

Do you agree with that?

I mean, you denied him a crime privilege.

You did it in a secret proceeding.

That's a violation of the Fifth Amendment under the phony claim of a crime fraud exception.

So his lead lawyer in the January 6th case had to testify in front of the grand jury.

And he had to provide his notes that he had taken with Donald Trump.

And we've never seen anything like this.

We don't know what they're talking about.

It's all done in secret.

That happens.

I'm told other things happened in front of that grand jury that were absolutely unacceptable by some of the lawyers working on this case.

So, what he's talking about, Dirsch Witzer, is a violation of due process, Fifth Amendment, and the Sixth Amendment, which is the right to effective counsel.

You can't have effective counsel when they're drowning in documents and witnesses and everything else.

And the judge,

for no reason, he said that

there is no way that he he said, if that

lawyer

stands in front of that judge and he says, no, you have to proceed, and they aren't ready because

there's no way possible.

He said he should

quit immediately and say, I'm sorry, I'm not going to abide.

And if that means you're going to hold me in contempt, hold me in contempt.

But this is a travesty.

of justice.

Well, I guess that's right.

I mean, every lawyer has to make their own decision on how to proceed um

so i don't know if i do that or not i really hadn't thought about it that said he's right on the substance of the issue 100 right now the problem with all this is this lower court judge and this prosecutor all know that they're setting donald trump up for conviction so when he runs for office as president in a general election the media and everyone else will keep calling him a convicted felon, a convicted felon.

So the people who are kind of on the edge, kind of leaning toward Trump because they can't stand Biden, we know who these people are.

We lived with people like this, right, in our communities, in our neighborhoods.

We meet them.

He might lose them.

And that's the goal.

And you can see the hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign funding that's going to be spent by the Democrats in the Biden campaign, or in your case, the Michelle Obama campaign,

talking about how Trump is a convicted felon and then he'll want to pardon him.

So we won't be talking about inflation and the border.

So, so can we game this?

I don't know how much time you have allotted in your schedule.

I know you're so busy.

For you, the whole week.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

I want to war game this out with you just a little bit because I honestly, I have no idea about,

it's my understanding the Constitution will allow him to run and to be president

and run a campaign from jail.

But

I don't know.

So can you go through us, go through this?

What happens if the court comes back and the jury comes back and says he's guilty and he's a convicted felon?

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So, all of the best legal minds that I know all say that no matter what the evidence, in Washington, D.C., he's going to be convicted.

Do you believe that?

I fear that.

Yeah.

Okay.

What?

And I'll tell you why.

I mean,

if you're not really able to present your case, if you're not really able to present to study the evidence,

and in addition to that, to bring forward counter-evidence, exculpatory information, because you can't get your head around it because of the timeframe.

If you're in a city that goes 94% for Biden, the jury's picked by that

out of that that population.

If you have an Obama judge that is ruling in

every single instance for the government,

when you have a prosecutor who is utterly and completely unethical,

who is using tactics

that in most courtrooms would be rejected,

you're setting up a scenario where

nobody

Nobody could survive because you're targeting this defendant.

The charges are preposterous.

And by the time you can actually get to an appellate court,

it's over.

And so that makes what Jack Smith is doing is

so horrific because he's trying to jump the appellate court on a constitutional issue to get to the Supreme Court.

And the court is at least entertaining the idea.

Whereas the defendant, Donald Trump, can't get his constitutional issues up there that fast because the Supreme Court has decided over and over and over again, no, you go through the trial, you go through the appellate court, you need to fine-tune the constitutional issues, then we might take a look at it.

So the whole system, and really, as you well know and your listeners well know, you can have the best constitution on the face of the earth, the best judicial system on paper, but if you don't have people of virtue, particularly judges,

none of it works.

It doesn't matter what's on paper.

There is no due process.

There is no right to counsel.

And effectively, that's what's going on here.

So the likelihood is very high.

Now here's the problem.

If the court does take up this case for this argument and rules against Jack Smith, that is, that Donald Trump does have immunity from actions he took while President after he leaves the Presidency,

then the government really doesn't have a case.

They're in huge trouble.

And this case will go on longer.

No way that John Roberts allows that to happen.

No way.

That's my fear.

But I want your audience to understand why this is important.

It's important because if you don't retain that protection when you leave the presidency,

Any opposing administration or Department of Justice will wait for a president to do whatever he does, and then when he leaves, indict that president.

You will destroy the office of the presidency.

That's the problem.

So, when this judge says he thinks he's a king, he can have immunity even when he leaves the president.

That's not what he thinks.

He's saying, Look, all these bogus allegations you're making against me occurred when I was president.

As president, you certainly couldn't indict me for these things.

Right.

So, you can't indict me now.

Oh, no, no, no.

That protection doesn't go beyond the time that you're in the office of the presidency.

That doesn't hold water.

Back with more, with Mark Levin in just a couple of minutes.

Stand by.

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He's convicted.

Then what?

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We're talking to Mark Levin, and I want him to pick pick up the scenario of if Donald Trump goes to jail, then what?

But I have to ask,

Mark, during the break, I was thinking to myself: wait a minute, Nixon was pardoned because of the crimes that were committed while he was in the Oval Office, and that was important.

And this whole case is: can he be prosecuted?

Can a president be prosecuted for something that he did while in office?

I mean, if Biden was taking money from China currently or, you know,

making money by laundering it somehow or another through, you know, friends in Ukraine, when he left office, I would say prosecute him as well.

Why is this different with Donald Trump?

The personality doesn't matter.

Right.

Whether it's Biden, whether it's Trump, whether it's Ernie Grobatsky, is of no consequence.

The issue here is this.

Answer your first question.

If an individual is convicted and is in jail, can they run for president?

The answer is yes.

The only requirement you have under the Constitution is an age and citizenship requirement.

That is it.

Nothing more, nothing less.

And as a footnote, that's why you can't pass term limits for members of Congress by statute.

The requirement for serving in Congress is in the Constitution.

You can't amend the Constitution by statute.

That's why the amended Constitution to limit a president to 10 years, no more than two terms,

10 years total.

That's why the Constitution had to be amended for that purpose.

Now, as for indicting somebody, obviously you can indict them before they become president.

When they become president, they can serve as president.

There's nothing in the Constitution that prevents it.

And you can't change the Constitution simply by a magic wand or Congress deciding they don't like something or something like that.

That's number one.

But it's very, very unlikely.

That's what the Democrats know.

In fact, there was a man who ran for president from prison under Woodrow Wilson.

He was a socialist.

He was thrown in prison under the Espionage Act

because he spoke out against

World War I.

And so, and he received like 2, 3 percent of the vote.

But Wilson wanted to.

They're going to tuck him away and keep him off the stage.

And that's what they're trying to do to Trump.

That's number one.

Now, as for if and when Trump becomes president, yes, he can pardon himself.

There's nothing in the Constitution that prevents it.

Nothing.

Now, here's where I disagree with Turley and the others, who are just dead wrong on this subject.

They argue, however,

he can't pardon himself over state convictions.

Well, of course he can.

The issue on whether you can indict a sitting president, the Constitution doesn't tell us, yes or no.

And so the question is an open one.

The Justice Department is decided under two separate Attorneys General, two separate political parties, one Democrat, Republican, and they wrote two memos, one under Nixon, one under Clinton.

And they both agreed, and they all agreed, the Office of Legal Counsel,

that you can't indict a sitting president for one simple reason.

You will decapitate one-third of the government, the executive branch.

How is a president supposed to function, to need foreign leaders, to do, to give a state of the union, is he going to do it behind prison walls?

And so they said, because the president is a solely unique figure within our system,

that you can't indict a sitting president, which would mean that a prosecutor, just like we see in Washington, would have the power to decapitate the executive branch, would have the power to destroy the effectiveness of the executive branch.

all unelected, a prosecutor, a jury, and a judge.

And so they said no.

So

you cannot indict a sitting president.

That is at least the settled agreement here.

So what about state charges?

Turley and others, who I like a lot, and others say, well, now look,

this is a federal matter.

So he can't reach down into the states and say, I pardon my stuff.

And I said, excuse me.

It's the other way around.

You can't have reverse federalism.

where a local state DA

like Sanya Willis or whatever the hell her name is, can indict a sitting president and put them in jail in Atlanta, Georgia, and decapitate the federal government.

No state has that power.

So the idea that a president can pardon himself on a federal charge in order to protect the presidency, but he can't pardon himself on a state charge where a state reaches into the federal constitution, reaches into the federal construct, and indicts a sitting president and says, all right, now you leave the White House, you come down here, you're going to to go in a Fulton County prison, and it's too bad because it's a federalism issue.

That's not a federalism issue, it's a reverse federalism issue where a local prosecutor is attempting to decapitate the federal executive branch.

So my argument is, and I'm right, but none of this has ever been tried, that a president can pardon themselves against any indictment, and even further, a president can pardon himself against any conviction.

This This is another reason they want to get

that stamp on his forehead.

You know, this is why they want him running around as a convicted felon.

If he's convicted,

does he go to jail?

It would actually be prison, wouldn't it?

It's a felony.

So would he go to prison before the election?

Well,

there's a couple of things here.

Number one, you would immediately move if you're a counsel to stay any sentence because you have multiple issues to appeal.

And number two, you have a presidential election and you shouldn't be trying to deny or influence even further than you have the ability of people to make a decision like that.

I don't put anything past these people.

Number three, you're correct.

It would be a federal prison.

Let me ask a question.

How would that work?

You're going to have a whole wing of a federal prison with Secret Service personnel staged there.

I mean,

look at the insanity that they have created with these phony charges, the creative charges, the arguments that they're making, the Democrats, their judges, their prosecutors, their Department of Justice, the Biden regime has brought us to this place, this place of unimaginable stupidity, which is going to have an impact forevermore on this republic.

It is, it simply is.

And then they hear Chris Christie say, well, he's going to be convicted.

It gives support for this kind of behavior.

sickens me.

And then we have, oh, we can't impeach Joe Biden.

We don't have have enough information.

You have nothing on Trump.

The Espionage Act has never been used against a former president, a former vice president, a former cabinet secretary.

They're using the Espionage Act against a former president, a SWAT team.

They go, oh, does he have classified documents?

Are you kidding me?

I worked for an attorney general.

It would never have reached that point.

He would have picked up the phone, called Donald Trump, say, Donald, I'm sending guys down here to get it.

Just get out of the way.

We're taking the stuff.

Okay?

Okay.

Case over.

That's not what they did here.

It's appalling what's on January 6th.

So basically, they're attacking him for free speech.

So,

Mark, help me out on this because I feel exactly the same passion that you feel.

And you can hear it in your voice right now.

What

happens

to half the country when they see Donald Trump, God forbid,

convicted.

I mean, there comes a time when you're just like, oh, okay, okay, I can't deal with this anymore because it's so far out of reality and Constitution, a constitutional republic.

Well, what happens is half the country will not accept.

the election of the Democrat, whomever it is.

Half the country, part of half the country anyway, will be furious about what's taking place.

We will no longer accept the results of elections, period.

The Democrats started that as well, starting with 2000 on Bush, but Bush is too stupid to understand that they started with him.

And the Republic will be forever damaged.

Forever damaged.

That's what's going on here.

And

they talked about a division in the country and so forth.

They are creating the atmosphere

for some kind of a civil war.

I'm not even talking about a violent civil war, like the past civil war, where half the country does not accept the law, half the country does not accept our institutions, the judiciary, where half the country does not accept

anything that's taking place in this country.

And honestly,

not to have myself in that, that's why I wrote this book, The Democrat Party Hates America.

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The party of eugenics, the party of abortion on demand, the party of open borders.

They are destroying this country.

The Democrat Party has never accepted Americanism, period.

It's embraced Marxism.

They call it progressivism.

And so they're not going to sit by and allow a Donald Trump to win a second time.

They feel that they didn't stop him the first time.

They impeached him twice.

They unleashed criminal investigations.

And this time we got 91 damn charges at the local, state, federal level.

He'll never escape this stuff.

We've got Democrat prosecutors.

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We have Democrat jury.

He'll never escape this stuff.

We've tried everything.

Okay.

And now we've got him.

I got to take one more break.

If you have time, could you stay with me for one more break?

Because I just want to ask you so is it is it wise then because it looks like he's going to win the nomination uh and is it wise and can somebody win enough i mean what happens if they get to the convention and he's in prison and i mean can are you just is that it

i mean i i mean i just i don't see a good way of this working out what what should be done or what could be done uh now

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The Democrats have super delegates.

They don't, it doesn't matter what the people say, they can change everything.

Republicans, thank God, don't have that system.

If Donald Trump is convicted, goes to prison, the party will look at it and go,

there's no way to win here, you know, most likely.

But they have no out.

Does it matter that we have a number two, a strong number two like DeSantis or Haley?

Well, it does matter because, as you say, we really don't know how this is going to play out.

We just don't know how this is going to play out.

So the number two is very, very important.

Haley knows that.

She not only wants to be the anti-Trump, but she wants to be in second place in case everything falls apart.

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I think DeSantis should be in second place

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Yes.

Because he's a conservative and she's not.

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It's important if you support Trump, that first of all, that he wins.

Yes.

If everybody isn't voting for number two, that's going to be a problem.

Yes.

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Nikki Haley is what the ruling class Republicans, what the Mitch McConnell's, the Paul Ryans want.

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Yes.

When BlackRock started to support, that says everything you need to know.

And the first question I asked Nikki Haley was about ESG.

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And when BlackRock, she took the money from BlackRock,

I mean, there's no place to go with that.

There's no place to go.

Nope.

Mark, thank you so much.

God bless you.

Have a great holiday if I don't talk to you in between then, but have a great holiday.

Bye, brother.

You bet.

God bless you.

You bet.

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Hello, America.

There's a couple of things going on.

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Something that nobody's talking about.

We'll talk about it here in just a second.

There is also something else that is going to happen by January 2nd.

And Marlo Oaks, who's the Utah State Treasurer, has brought it to my attention and you need to know about it.

It changes everything if it's actually enacted.

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Thank you.

Good to be here, Glenn.

Thank you very much.

And thank you for alerting me to this.

This is horrifying.

This is a new SEC proposal.

to allow for a creation of a new type of company.

Tell us about it.

Yeah, Yeah, so basically, a natural asset company.

And really, the heart of the problem is that it will permanently stop economically essential activities like grazing, mineral extraction, modern agriculture.

It could severely curtail recreational access.

We're basically talking about the destruction of rural America.

And really, it's an effort to take control of America's natural resources.

This could be done through these natural asset companies from hostile nations that put money into these.

And we're essentially placing a value on natural processes, things like

the biological systems that provide clean air, water, food, things like that,

putting an economic value on those.

It's really an arbitrary value.

It represents a massive transfer of wealth.

This is just another

scam.

This is another

financial scam to make people a lot of money.

But this one, you know, unlike the scams that cost us, you know, almost our freedom last time in 2008, this one actually, if it goes through,

if you buy, let's say, this stock in this, in this company,

you then can,

you would be

giving the money to buy up the rights of all the minerals and even like the air and you can't you can't develop it because it's a forest and there's lots of there's lots of clean air that's being generated right that's exactly right and so basically the new york stock exchange went to the securities and exchange commission and said we need a rule that will allow us to list companies whose purpose isn't to make money it's to provide ecological services and what are those ecological services well it is it is the the biological systems that are creating clean air.

So think of a forest, right?

Taking carbon out of the air and converting it into oxygen.

What is that worth?

What are underground aquifers worth?

You know, the water that seeps through the ground and creates clean water.

It's those kinds of, what we think of, God-given processes that are now going to be monetized in some way.

And people who own

these companies, who put money into these companies, they stand to benefit from that at the expense of our country.

So now are they,

let's say I'm a landowner and I have farmland and I have forest.

Do I participate in this?

Do I have to say, yes,

my

everything is up for sale?

Or is this just kind of like air rights in New York, where you're just buying the rights of air?

well there is there's you know as we know from ESG the the climate crisis is really driving the ESG environmental social governance discussion it's the same thing here

and and there is a push really an attack on energy and agriculture right and so when We look at agriculture, we're seeing the squeezing of

ranchers and farms.

And these natural asset companies ban what's called industrial agriculture, which is essentially all agriculture that happens around the globe because that's what produces the yields that are needed to feed the world population.

And so, if you ban industrial agriculture, you're talking about something that happened in Sri Lanka, which was the reduction of rice harvests, 40 to 50 percent, leading to an 80 percent increase in prices there.

It led to civil unrest unbelievably there, And that's what we're talking about.

So let me have a very Western conversation with you.

Most people in the East, they don't understand BLM land.

And that is not Black Lives Matter.

That is Bureau of Land Management.

They own in the West a great portion of

the land that farmers use to graze their cattle on because it's just open land.

And you pay a fee and you can graze your cattle on that land.

And the government's supposed to take care of it.

This would, this company, this new natural asset company, would then not take control of the land, right?

It would just say,

no grazing cattle on that land because we need it pure for the carbon offset or whatever.

And so it would grab that.

But could it grab, could it grab my land if I'm a farmer?

Well,

it could be inside of a designated area.

So right now in Montana there are five million acres are

they're trying the federal government I've forgotten which agency it is has designated five five million acres

they're trying to create a national monument out of this and there's private land within within that and so your land could be inside of a designated area and and the government wouldn't necessarily

you know buy your land but you're you're you're going to end up with fewer options.

Yeah, you won't have any roads maintained.

You won't be able to expand or do anything.

You might be able to be grandfathered into what you're doing right now, but nothing else, right?

And there's no

infrastructure will be left alone.

Yeah, that's right.

And so even in the East, so in the East,

you have conservation easements.

And so landowners in the East have

placed their lands in conservation easements, which effectively means that that no development can happen.

And they do this to get a tax benefit.

But over time, because it's in perpetuity, that land,

the

use of the land when you entered into a conservation easement cannot change.

But the subjective nature of creating a sustainable

culture agriculture or sustainable land going forward forward means that that land can be placed in a natural asset company.

These conservation easements can go into a natural asset company without the landowner's consent, essentially.

And so this really

affects people in the East and the West.

It's just under different

designations.

Yeah, and it will affect all of us because our food prices will go through the roof.

Good luck.

Yeah, and good luck going to a national park.

Let me ask you this.

How is the New York Stock Exchange pushing for this?

Because

what this natural asset company,

this whole new category, it is non-economic.

The land that they would buy as a private entity must support only replenishable activities.

So that means that they can only replenish the land.

They can't have any economic activity on it.

It's assigned an arbitrary value and then it's traded on that.

But this is a, there's no pro you cannot make profit on this.

So who would be buying the stock for this?

Because you're not going to make money.

Well, you're not going to make money through traditional economic activity, but if

companies have to be net zero, let's say you're emitting a lot of carbon, then

you will have an incentive to buy into natural asset companies that will provide potentially carbon offsets through these natural processes.

That's one way to drive artificial value.

So I am putting a lot of pollution up in the air, but if I buy part of Yellowstone or part of, you know, Montana that can no longer be developed, then I can use that and say, yeah, but I've got all these trees producing all this fresh air.

Exactly.

This is so evil.

This is so

incredibly evil.

Yeah, we've thought of, you know, we've thought of natural processes as sort of God-given, right?

And

you and I are walking carbon emitters.

I mean, when we breathe out, we're emitting 4% carbon.

And so what happens when each of us individually have a carbon footprint that we have to offset?

You know, the wealthy can easily do it.

They just go out and buy you know, access to NACs, but it's the poorest among us.

Suddenly, are they going to have to pay for their carbon emission?

And then,

you know, that is going to incentivize car reduction, you know, getting people out of cars and walking and bicycles and things like that.

I mean, you can see where this goes.

Yeah, most importantly, this gives a public-private partnership a chance to enrich all of the very wealthy anyway.

And it, it is like, what was it that almost brought us down in 2008?

Derivatives.

It's like derivatives.

You're selling garbage.

You're not selling anything.

Nobody really owns anything if you keep selling, you know, these derivatives.

It's a scam.

This is the same thing at a global scale.

Well, and you think about what is America,

what's one of the greatest assets of America?

It's our natural resources.

They're incredible.

And this allows not just wealthy investors, but we're talking about countries like China or Russia or

Iran, whomever, that has a ton of money in these sovereign wealth funds to buy into a natural asset company because they'll raise money globally.

If I am in China and I want to cripple the United States, I just take West Texas and I buy up all of it in one of these companies and they can no longer drill.

That's right.

That's exactly right.

We're suicidal.

We're absolutely suicidal.

Okay, so there is a public comment period, right?

And it's right now, and it's been shortened.

And surprise everybody during the holiday season.

So is that for the average person?

Can they go online or call or what?

Yes, absolutely.

So, you know, I'm telling people to contact their federal legislators, their state legislators,

you know, to

have them reach out

to the SEC.

So people can reach out to the SEC, but also encourage your legislators to reach out to the SEC and even the New York Stock Exchange.

You know, contact your governor, your attorney general, even the state treasurer.

They need to take action to oppose this,

and you can reach out to the SEC directly with five commissioners.

Will it be too late after January?

Because they say they're going to decide by January 2nd.

Well, they could decide.

One of the decisions could be to extend the

decision out further.

Okay.

So that's why I'm hoping that we raise enough awareness and pushback that it makes it difficult for them to finalize this on January 2nd.

But, you know, the fuse is incredibly short.

It's incredible.

And it's by design.

Of course, it is.

Of course, it is.

And it's

once again,

the destruction of everything that we, what is America about if you can't come here, buy a piece of land and do what you want to do with it?

Well, what is America about?

This goes back to Agenda 2020, Agenda 2030, where they're trying to push everybody into the cities.

And this will do it.

This will do it.

And this is a whole of government approach.

You see all of these agencies, the Forest Service, Fish and Wildlife, BLM, the Bureau of Land Management, all of these agencies are pushing this agenda.

Now the SEC, right, and the SEC, of course, with ESG, but

this just takes it to a whole nother level.

But you see the entire government apparatus pushing

this goal, really, to permanently stop essential economic activity on our land and really lock up our natural resources.

It's incredibly destructive.

Marlo, thank you so much.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We'll talk to you again.

Marlo Oaks, he is the treasurer of Utah who brought this to my attention.

It needs critical attention right now.

We're going to have this section of the show clipped.

We'll put it out online.

Please share it with everyone.

Share it with every legislator and senator you can find.

Make sure they know about it.

Make sure your friends know about it.

This is a way to lock up all public and private lands.

It is,

it's obscene and evil, and it's got to stop.

And they will decide by January 20th, unless, as he said, we kick up a storm and make sure that our

legislators, state and federal, are calling and saying, no, no, no, not so fast, not so fast.

They've got to call the SEC.

So here's the thing.

You are telling your congressman or whoever about the natural asset asset company that the New York Stock Exchange is creating along with the SEC.

The SEC, the Security and Exchange Commission, cannot allow for the creation of this kind of a company.

They cannot do it.

Call.

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that was so 247 years ago now, wasn't it?

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SEC is going to create something that will totally change America.

How do they do that?

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The deep state, what is it?

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Right after a brand new Stew Does America.

So from the New York Times, Republicans sidelined Zelensky with border demands imperiling aid.

Really?

So wait, I want to get this right.

The people in Washington don't want to make a deal to protect our borders.

They won't make that deal and at the same time protect somebody else's border.

They just want to protect somebody else's border and not ours.

It's insanity.

Now, Biden said he's open to compromise here, Glenn.

I mean, come on.

But common sense.

He said common sense policies they can work together on, which, of course, means

on the highway.

But they did add the addendum.

We're not talking about some major reworking of your, you know, some extreme political agenda, of of course.

So

like, you know, like we're not going back to any kind of law and order on the border.

Right.

Yeah.

That's a little too crazy.

Extreme.

You know, what do you think the most likely outcome here is of this?

What I, here's, let me just toss out mine.

You tell me if you think this is right.

Yeah.

The Republicans claim some sort of border victory.

It is

very unsatisfactory to people who actually care about the border, but they can say something.

They get some money for the border.

They build eight inches of fence, whatever, you know, something like that.

And then this money still flows to Ukraine.

I think that's the most likely outcome of this.

Republicans cave by saying they got some sort of border victory, which is very unsubstantial.

Okay.

So I think you're right, except they get something out of it.

They don't think eight inches of

victory.

They definitely cave.

And the money goes to Zelensky in Ukraine.

That's what I think.

And it's all going to happen.

Whatever happened to the budget talks

when that's supposed to be done, you know, right after Thanksgiving?

I thought it was January.

Oh, is that they've been there?

I thought that the one they passed right before the last deadline

kicked the can down the road to January in two different dates, I believe.

Yes.

And you know that the House has just passed

a FISA, new FISA regulation that makes warrantless wiretaps even more likely to happen.

That's from your friends in the GOP as well.

Wonderful.

So they're great.

Would you,

would you, Glenn Beck?

Yes.

I can tell you're right.

Politics Fantasy League.

All right, let me give you a couple.

I got a couple scenarios for you.

Okay.

Would you support

this money going to Ukraine?

And again, when I say this money, what does that mean?

I don't know.

60 billion, 100 billion, an infinite amount.

I mean...

Maybe we just put a printing press in Kiev and just let them print it when they need it.

I don't know.

We should put it in every foreign capital.

Yes, just print the cash as you need it.

That's the problem.

It's like transporting a machine, except it's printed.

That's the better policy.

Then you have to stop.

You know what?

We can stop having these conversations about it.

So easy.

Would you support if they said this money is going to go to Ukraine to fund this war effort, but you get an actual border wall?

They put up a border wall over the entire border.

Well, because I don't believe they'll do the border wall.

I would say, yes, you're going to put the military down.

You're going to stay in Mexico, remain in Mexico, Mexico, goes back in, and you're actually funding

real security.

Yeah, I'd give one more, one more dip in the bank for Ukraine if that's what you're doing.

If you actually got like a legit border policy, you were happy.

And

here's what that would buy.

It would not only buy America's security, I mean,

who's going to answer for the next terrorist attack?

My guess is nothing, because they'll just lock everything down because it will be so horrible that they just can't have any kind of misinformation and you've got to stay in your house to be safe.

Who's going to answer for that?

Who's going to answer for that?

Because this is the time where we're letting people.

Remember, we let people stay after their visa expired.

How irresponsible.

Who's responsible for that?

We got to create a big institution so we can take care of that.

There's no question when a bomb or something happens with Islamic terrorism or any kind of Chinese do anything, anything.

Their militaries practically are here now.

They're civilians.

So

who's going to take responsibility for that?

So how does that work out in the end?

If you are really truly, if you care about your political future, you know if you're not fighting this, you're on the list.

So how does that end?

How does that work out?

Hmm.

How does that work out?

Now,

how does it work out for Zelensky and Ukraine if we just say, no, you're not getting any more money?

No more money.

You know, in a short period of time, Russia overruns the country, right?

Eventually.

Yes.

And Zelensky has already said he's thinking about going to the negotiating table in January.

With what?

What cards do you hold now?

Well, this is the hawkish argument, though.

No, you need to give them a hundred.

Give them cards to hold so they can get a negotiation.

Right, I know that.

I know that.

So I'd be willing to give you some cards to hold,

but you would have to secure our border first.

No tricks, nothing.

You,

it's a one-page deal.

On this date,

these people

cannot cross the border.

Period.

None of this stuff is happening.

You do need some details because they'll build a wall that's four inches tall.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then they'll say there's some other reason for building it, but we don't, you know, it's still a problem.

And I think you always have those questions as to whether they'd follow through with it.

But I have to tell you, everybody in Washington knew they were losing the public.

The public was with Ukraine at the beginning, and then it started to erode.

And when it was eroding, it was eroding in big chunks.

So everyone knew.

I knew, you knew.

I mean, you know, the person at the 7-Eleven might not have known, but

that's why we don't have the person at 7-Eleven making these decisions in Congress.

That's why we have a representative republic.

So they all knew.

And

why wasn't the president or anybody who says they care, Lindsey Graham, why weren't you saying six months ago, look at, you have a real chance of losing the American people.

They're already starting to fall away.

Get to a negotiating table because I can't promise anything.

Yeah, no, and this has happened with every war, right?

And pretty much, I mean, you think of go back to Iraq.

I mean, remember,

Iraq became this big divisive issue between Republicans and Democrats throughout the 2000s.

People forget that almost all Democrats supported that war.

They almost all voted for it in Congress to authorize that war.

The same thing is happening right now.

I mean, you know, Biden is

doing something he should not do by warning Netanyahu

publicly that he's going to lose the world and the support for this war.

Though the underlying point there is probably true.

He is.

They are going to lose the world.

No,

it's beyond the point of bluffing.

So what?

Who was responsible for this?

Who was responsible for this?

The Republicans?

The American people?

What support for more aid

to Ukraine?

How much support is there?

Right now, this is a very recent poll.

This came out this week.

48% of voters said the U.S.

was spending too much on sending financial and military aid to Ukraine.

Half the country says too much already.

27% said the U.S.

was spending the right amount.

Just keep spending.

We just have this spending.

It's okay.

And then 11% said the U.S.

was not spending enough.

11%

say spend more.

And then 11%.

And what's the number of D.C.

politicians?

90% say we're not spending enough?

Yeah.

So it's a complete disconnect

from the Republic.

Yeah.

The system of representation.

11% of the public say we should send more.

And to your point, Glenn, those numbers have drastically changed over the past year or so.

I mean, if you go back a year from, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but they were totally reversed on this.

The U.S., the funding for Ukraine was very popular, and opposing it was a minority position by a large margin.

So

here's what I want you to know, and you need to know this, and you need to spread the word.

Who is responsible for a growing war?

Because right now they're saying the Republicans, the Republicans are going to, they're going to, Putin's just going to take over the world, and we're going to have troops then in Europe.

Who's responsible for that?

First of all, I don't buy into that.

Second of all,

it's not impossible.

No, it's not impossible.

But why did it happen?

Why did it happen?

Because we promised something that we promised at the end of the Cold War we'd never do.

Allow Ukraine into NATO.

All we had to do was say, we're going to stick with what we have always said.

We wish you well, but we can't bring you into NATO.

We already have spoken word treaties on that.

We made a promise.

We did not signal we were going to keep it.

Now, we haven't broken it yet.

They're not in NATO, but we signaled that we wanted it to happen.

And we also signaled, as we showed you yesterday, in 2016

that we were going in to take out Putin.

We were going to support them and back them on their war with Putin.

Okay?

So this has been in the war

for a long time.

Again, that's after Crimea.

Two years after Crimea.

True, but I mean, it wasn't like...

The only thing I would throw in here is it's not like if we lived up to all of our promises, Vladimir Putin would have been the nicest guy in the world.

No, I don't buy that.

He's a bad guy.

He would have found some justification to do what he wanted to do anyway.

But there is a bloodlust in Washington.

They want blood.

They want a war for some reason.

I think I could speculate on that, but there are people that are just hungry and thirsty for a war there.

Meanwhile, Putin has brought in even closer now the story today,

Iran.

Well, how do you think that's going to work out?

And this is going to be very important because if you try to ask the people who created the problem to fix it, they can't fix it.

They created the problem.

Stop going to the people who create the problems and saying, well, maybe the Fed can fix it.

Well, I mean, what does the Fed say about inflation?

What the hell does it matter?

They're the ones that created this.

Why would we ask for their help or their assistance in anything?

Same thing with war.

It's not the Republicans because only 11% want more money to go.

The Republicans are at least representing the will of the people, which is what they're supposed to do.

The key here is they all knew.

the public was turning sour on this.

They should have been stepping on Zelensky's neck months ago, saying, you're going to lose the American people.

Negotiate now or you'll have no cards.

It's not the Republicans' fault.

It's certainly not your fault.

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You know,

let's look at this logically.

If you actually think that Putin is a threat, which I do, that Putin is a bad guy, guy, which I do.

And the idea is: if you stop funding now,

we're all going to be at war because Putin will be emboldened.

Uh-huh.

If you think Putin is bad now,

what happens when the United States loses its world reserve currency?

When the United States has 145% inflation like they do in Argentina, what happens?

Is Putin empowered?

Is China empowered?

We're not the country of the 1980s.

You gotta take a breath, get healthy, and hold the line while you're doing that.

It's insane.

It's insane that these are our leaders.

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