Have US Politicians Been Planning the Russia/Ukraine War for SEVEN YEARS?! | Guest: Justin Haskins | 12/12/23

December 12, 2023 2h 8m

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After a hot mic caught presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy going to the bathroom, Jeff Fisher joins to share his hot mic moment. Was America planning for a Russia/Ukraine conflict back in 2017? Pat Gray joins Glenn and Stu to discuss an odd resurfaced clip of Sen. Lindsey Graham speaking in Ukraine about an upcoming offensive attack. Glenn and Stu discuss the absurdities of defamation cases going after the wrong people. The Heartland Institute's Justin Haskins joins Glenn to discuss the Heartland Institute/Rasmussen poll, which shows likely voter fraud in the 2020 election. Glenn and Stu discuss the ongoing dissatisfaction with both political parties. Argentina’s new libertarian president has wholly gutted the Argentinian government. Glenn goes through all the threats America faces with China affecting our farming and infrastructure to cause chaos.

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You know, bad things in Washington usually happen right around the holidays Nobody's paying attention.

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Also, Ramaswamy, they caught the guy who was threatening his life.

And

he was caught with his pants down.

We're going to talk to an expert about that coming up in just a minute.

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okay we got some good stuff going on today uh it looks like ramaswamy um

had some problems had some problems caught with his pants down so to speak oh yeah

you know everyone's got a scandal in their closet somewhere what happened well

He was

he was he was mic'd up and he went to the bathroom

And,

you know,

I mean, you can figure out what happened from there, really.

Or we could just play it.

We have the

promoting an optimistic pro-human future that the science and evidence shows is real and that we need.

Gentlemen, I have to go.

I just want to be sort of exactly.

I want to be clear about my tradition.

I'm super pro-human, and I mean all humans.

You know, humans in America, humans, and somebody's got their thing off the scene

and everywhere else.

Yeah, that's Vivek, Vivek, that's your phone, Vivek.

I'm not able to mute you.

Vivek.

Go ahead, Elon.

Sorry about that.

Well, I hope you feel better.

I feel great.

Thank you.

Sorry about that, guys.

Okay, so

I feel like he needs a little.

There's an issue with his flow.

I feel like there was not a lot of.

Yeah, I did.

I felt that too.

I'm a little concerned about it.

If you remember,

this is not the first time it happened.

This is Jeffy on the Glenn Beck program

when he was mic'd up and had to go to the bathroom.

Here it is.

I'm going to talk about it now.

Yeah, doing.

I dare you.

Was he

talk radio shot here, too?

Yeah, what?

Andrew Wilka's here, by the way, with us.

Hi, Andrew.

Wow.

Patton Stu.

With.

I mean, that's

Jeffy going to the bathroom.

I know my mic is on.

Did you turn his off?

It's like the naked gun in real life.

Didn't that happen the naked gun in real life?

Remember the naked gun at the end of one of those movies?

Where they

go, oh, yeah.

All right.

So what a disaster.

I see.

You know,

amazing.

The man who has experience on what Vivek may be going through now,

Jeff Fisher, joins us.

I do.

I feel for Vivek.

You do.

When this happened to you,

how long did it last?

I mean, it's been at least 30 seconds.

He kept going and going.

Oh,

I do not have Vivek flow issues.

Yes, that's true.

That's true.

Sounded like a racehorse in a bucket.

Jeffy had three gallons of sweet tea before he went.

So, Jeffy, any advice for Vivek?

Well, you just have to keep your eye on the microphone.

Look,

it wasn't my fault.

Someone else forgot to turn my mic off.

Well,

the audio guy would have been

would have been

probably congratulated for keeping that off the air.

So, wait, you're less at least to blame other people.

That was your big takeaway?

Your responsibility when you go into a a bathroom is to turn it off.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Just like Vivek, I mean, it was his responsibility, right?

He didn't do it.

Do you have any advice for him, any idea of what he might be facing?

The way to respond to this?

You know, you just have to own it.

Yeah, just own it.

Just own it.

Okay.

Just own it.

All right.

And that's why you blame someone else.

All right.

Well, just own it.

The only thing you didn't do was own it.

Like, you just came on the air and did the opposite of owning it.

Thanks a lot, Jeffy.

God bless.

Okay.

It literally says on the screen, Jeffy Fisher, urinating on the air expert.

Hell, you got to be an expert in something.

It is.

I think this is a real problem, Jeffy, and you may have some commentary on this.

We all grew up in, you know, worked, came up

on the air.

It's hard to believe sometimes, but we all were on radio.

We all came up in normal, traditional broadcasting sort of venues that's the traditional path in some way or another and now

every single person on earth has like a podcast or something right like so the audience has an audience right the audience has an audience so they like We learned all these lessons.

Like when you go to the bathroom and you're wearing a mic like that, you unplug it.

Like you don't, you don't leave it to the audio guy to remember to turn it down because like, look, they've got a million things going on that are more important than your urinating.

So mistakes happen.

Right.

Mistakes happen.

You take the batteries out.

Like, you go hardcore to make sure you're not the person unless you're Jeffy.

Oh, yeah, okay.

Or now Vivek.

So you must feel better today.

Vivek Ramaswamy has joined your club.

And thankfully, he needs to hopefully get some medical help.

Right.

So, yes,

that may work out to his advantage.

It could be a prostate issue.

There's a doctor out there going, you know, I can fix that.

I can fix that.

All right.

Well,

a very, very prestigious club now.

You know, people who have peed on the air.

That is

Jeff Fisher and now Vivek Ramaswamy.

Thank you so much, Jeff.

You're welcome.

Merry Christmas, Jeffy.

Glad we could have you on.

By the way, we should point out: star of The Christmas Twist, Jeffy Fisher, along with Glenn Beck, myself, Pat Gray, my wife, Lisa Page, airing for the first time in 4K this Christmas Day, 24 hours of a Christmas twist

on Stu Does America YouTube channel.

You can just pop this thing on, just watch the Christmas twist like a thousand times in a row.

Does it

make it better that it's in 4K?

Oh, yeah.

Cause we, if you ever wanted to see Jeffy, like every pore of Jeffy's face,

you could see that.

Yeah.

Like there's a one scene where he gets run over by a car.

And he's out begging for his life in the parking lot.

And

I wasn't there for that shot, but I was was after when I remember looking at his guys saying, guys, you do realize there's a big booger in one of his nostrils.

Like looking up at the camera, it's quite clear.

Imagine seeing that in 4K.

No, thank you.

It's available.

No,

no, no.

You know, so who was really hurt?

The people in the car or the car.

The car was total.

Car was total.

A couple of children died.

Oh, yeah.

If I'm not mistaken.

Mistake.

Sliced right through like a knife through butter.

It was really not good.

Really not good.

A Christmas Twist.

I still want to, I really want to make a

I want to make a parody like the Christmas Twist.

Maybe we just do the Christmas Twist and we really spend the money to do it

wrong, right, but wrong.

You know what I mean?

Possibly.

I don't know.

Does anybody else?

It happened already.

Hallmark did it.

Hallmark legitimately made.

I swear they saw a Christmas twist and then made a real version of our parody.

So somebody came over.

They did.

They really did.

It's the same exact plot.

I know.

They stole.

Well, I mean,

I don't say this in a way of like, I'm going to sue.

I'm very happy they did it, but they definitely did it.

I want you to know, Stu, that it's the same plot in all of the movies.

Well, that's kind of the thing.

But there's always details, right?

Like, what business are they running?

Yeah.

You know,

like, there's little...

pieces of it that are like different in every one of them and they took almost all the details from a christmas twist and made it into a new movie.

It was called like the Christmas Cookie.

And it was the exact same movie.

I think you should do an A-B comparison between the two.

And I think you should so we can see.

The Christmas Twist,

if you've not seen it, is absolutely fabulous.

We've spent tens of dollars on it.

And it is a Hallmark Christmas movie.

Now, somebody came over to my house recently.

And they looked at my wife and my children and I like we were aliens.

We had the Hallmark channel up and the movie had just started and we were in the kitchen and everything else and we just started shouting out

That person is gonna fall in love

and She's gonna be with a bang and you know, you just shout out

What you think it is right at the beginning and then you just keep narrowing it down You know it immediately immediately incredible.

Oh, it is incredible You can predict every detail these days and then we then we watch them, you know, usually not sitting down, but we have it on and we usually watch them.

And then we all act surprised when something happens.

It's so good.

And this person looked at me like I was nuts.

And I'm like, doesn't everybody?

Isn't that how you watch the Hallmark channel?

I think there is a target audience that is, you know,

maybe

of a certain age and just sweet old ladies that kind of

watch these, you know, movies, just like enjoy them.

It's changing.

I just love making fun of them.

oh i love it i legitimately enjoy watching them though so do i it's like because so do i there's some of them are so

bad

like it's so horrible we went to uh godzilla godzilla yesterday uh pat was there tony was there it was great time uh and in the previews there was a movie with uh sidney sweeney who's uh uh she was in white lotus and uh you know a bunch of other stuff

some people would call her an attractive young lady and uh she's in a like a romantic comedy where she's in a bikini basically, the entire

thing.

And like, it's this, it basically was a Hallmark movie.

Like, immediately, they're like, these two people hate each other.

Oh, let's fake a relationship to get other people mad.

I don't know.

What should we do?

And then, gee, are they going to end up together in the end of the movie?

I don't know, Glenn.

It was a real surprise.

I have only seen two minutes of this thing, but I already know the end of it.

If I were making that movie because it is so predictable,

I would have like the parents who are trying to get the people together, you know, on each side.

So I'd have them,

I'd just have them at the very end shoot the people

and then you end it.

So there's a murder at the end of your Hallmark movie?

Yeah.

I want to see this Hallmark movie.

This is the movie we should be.

Just so you're like, oh, you know, so you're watching, you're like, oh, these two, this is so predictable.

And then, you know, the

mom of, you know, one that wanted her to marry, you know, some other guy.

But then this guy came in.

She just stands up at the wedding and shoots him.

And then the other mother who wanted her son to marry some other woman.

At the same time, they just shoot the two.

And then it ends.

Wow, that's a dark ending to it.

It's a dark ending,

but a surprise ending.

Yes.

Right?

I think they should do that.

Remember that movie called, was it Dawn Till Dusk from back in the day where it started out like a normal movie and then turned into a vampire movie halfway through it?

I think they should just do that.

Like,

everything was totally normal until the wedding scene, and then everyone turns into like flying vampires, and there's a giant war, and then it ends.

You may kiss the bride, and he bites her neck, and then it's over.

You're like, what the hell happened?

That would be great.

You should do that.

At one point, didn't Will Farrell make a real Hallmark movie?

Like, Hallmark put it on T, or it was Lifetime, put it on their actual channel, and it was like kind of a movie making fun of all their movies.

And it was,

he did it dead straight, like 100% straight, didn't like lean into the jokes at all.

I love that.

And they actually put it on TV.

I have to, I never actually watch it.

It seems like something that you go back to.

We just do.

We say that every year.

Yeah,

yeah, I know.

By the way, Glenn, did you know this is my 25th year working with you?

Do you know that?

It's about to end.

We've been here doing the stupid show all the way to December.

Our 25th year working together.

That's kind of impressive.

Don't I I get like a watch or something?

Isn't there something that comes from this?

Hold on, you already gave me the watches, right?

Here, just recap.

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This is very old.

I mean, it's partially open.

It expired in August.

Well,

does that say anything about your talent?

Yeah, I guess it does.

Inspired a long time ago.

I'm happy if it lasted all the way to August.

And it's crazy.

I still have it in my drawer.

See what I'm saying?

About you?

It's going to have a little sriracha.

Go do you.

I am just a guy who just

collects useless stuff.

Congratulations on 25 years, Stu.

Thank you.

All right.

Let me

tell you about our

career.

I would have expected something a little bit more.

Yeah.

But that was

nice.

I mean, yeah, thank you.

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Stu, I don't know if this is going to work,

but in Portland, they're trying to clean up the streets and they're going to ban public drug use.

Yeah, yeah.

Why?

They think...

That's the best place to do drugs.

I know, on the street, right?

But they're going to ban it.

They're going to ban it.

It's all fun is doing drugs in private.

I know.

And here's a crazy idea.

Tennessee has decided criminals,

they're going to lock them up.

Yeah.

Why?

Yeah, dude.

Right, yeah.

No more repeats.

How about

crimes, though?

Well, that's the point.

And you know what they found out when they started doing this in Tennessee?

What?

Crime went down.

You're kidding me.

No, now that's, I don't know, causation

correlation.

It could be anything.

Could be COVID.

It could be COVID.

We don't know for sure.

But there's a couple of novel ideas for you just to put in that pipe of yours and smoke it up.

But not

on the streets of Portland.

I mean, well, you could today, but they're thinking about it as they try to clean Portland up.

I mean, what is the problem?

What is the problem there in Portland?

I can't imagine.

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You got to plan for it, but do you know what causes inflation?

Do you know how it works?

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Welcome to the program.

Did you see that Tucker Carlson has launched his own streaming web service?

I did.

It's a big deal.

Very big deal.

I was thinking about this, Glenn.

You know, in most industries,

people get upset when they have new competition.

And it's like, I don't know.

I feel like with conservative media, like, I'm happy that there are other voices in other places talking about this stuff.

We need them.

I know.

The only thing that

I'm worried about on that is,

you know, the Blaze is set up to where, you know, you come in and

I don't take part of your money or anything like that.

You know, you make your money and your voice is on the blaze.

And that way we can get entrepreneurial kind of people

that are here and they can build it here.

And I say that only because

financial times are coming.

I mean, they're already here, but if you have to join Daily Wire, The Blaze, Tucker Carls,

it becomes a lot.

It becomes a lot.

Now, we used to have that in our cable.

This is just cable.

But I wish we could find a way.

Is this on?

What happened to my mic?

I don't know, Glenn's.

My mic is off.

Glenn's mic seemed to go off here.

Why don't you?

Yeah, Why don't you move over to that seat for a second, see if that works?

Yeah, because it's true.

There was a time where, like,

he doesn't.

Sorry, we're having some technical difficulties.

Please stand by.

Okay, you there?

Okay.

Yeah, there we go.

So there was a time

that we all paid for cable, and I wish there was a way we could bundle like cable did.

So you had one bill and you could get everybody.

But

I don't know if anybody's going to be able to do it.

You give me 20% of all the memberships.

I'll make sure it happens.

I'll get that done.

You see, that's the point.

That's what I'm trying to avoid.

I'm trying to make sure that everybody that is doing this still retains, you know, their own, you know, their own voice and their own responsibility, their own money and everything else.

Look, it's a problem.

It's a bit of an issue.

I agree.

But I do like having more voices

there.

Me too.

And the good thing is, at least with most of these services, the Blaze is certainly included in that, as well as I think Tucker, I heard him talk about it a little bit with Megan Kelly yesterday.

And you're going to have a lot of the stuff that's available for everybody.

And then if you want the extra stuff, you you want the more in-depth stuff, you go with the subscription.

So I think it works well for everybody.

And you don't have to do that.

The stuff on X is not going away.

Yeah, you know, it's interesting, Glenn.

There was a thing when you did this back in the day.

When you left Fox and decided to start your own thing, there was a big discussion about, well, Glenn and Beck's just going to disappear.

He's going to be, he's no longer going to be relevant.

And Fox, remember, they tried to, this is when they were trying to, by the way, when they, let me make sure I say this clearly for everyone in the media to understand.

When they were trying to re-sign you to a contract, that was the argument Fox made to you, Roger made to you.

Yeah.

And said, You're not really, he said, you're not really going.

He thought I was bluffing.

You're not really going to the internet.

I mean, that's, quote, a fad.

Right.

It's going to be over.

Yeah, nobody leaves.

Nobody leaves.

It's too big of a platform.

And that argument was made.

And at that point, considering we were in like the time of buffering, like you could barely get video to load on the internet at that point.

The only one that was doing live streaming was Major League Baseball.

Major League Baseball.

That's it.

Nobody else.

Netflix, Amazon.

Nobody.

I hadn't even started yet.

So we weren't even on that platform.

And at that time, the argument was, I think, convincing to a lot of people, right?

Like, you'd say, okay, well, you had this big Fox thing, and then you're taking this big risk by going.

Now, you still had the radio show, so it wasn't exactly purely an argument, but there was an argument of basically you're making, you're trading freedom for relevance, right?

That was the argument at the time.

But like, since then, that's totally changed.

I mean, you were the first one kind of blazing that path, but like, I mean, look at Megan.

I I mean, Megan left, you know, some of the highest profile gigs in media

and is now making a massive impact, hosting debates

as an independent.

Yeah.

I mean, I went invisible for a while because there was.

No, no, no.

But I mean, but we knew that going in.

There was.

There was nobody watching anything online at the time.

Nobody from a television perspective.

You know, because of the radio, you always had a big impact.

Tucker even said to me recently, he said, i thought you were nuts when you left i thought i thought it was absolutely nuts and i have to tell you as i found out about tucker's uh thing this morning as i'm reading the headlines uh i signed up immediately i didn't even finish reading the article i went to the website and i signed up i i belong to the daily wire i belong to tucker carlson and i'm thrilled I am thrilled.

And I can't wait to see what Tucker Carlson is going to do with his success.

Yeah, I mean, he, you know, look, he's one of the biggest voices in conservative media.

And it's interesting because they have tried so hard to silence him.

They've really...

You can't anymore.

Well, you can, but it's going to be very difficult because of Elon Musk.

Look at what happened with

Alex Jones.

Yeah, he's back on now.

They banned Alex Jones, and he kind of went away for the mainstream, okay?

But he never went really away for his own people.

Now,

he owes a billion dollars.

And

I think anybody who is fair-minded, even if you didn't like Alex Jones, I mean, Alex Jones was on the air, you know, right after September 11th when I went to CNN.

He said, who is this guy?

This guy, nobody even knows this guy.

This guy's a CIA agent.

Okay, Alex.

So.

You know, you might have your bone to pick, but I think everyone could say a billion dollars.

That's a little ridiculous.

that's totally ridiculous.

Totally.

It's totally ridiculous.

It was all politically driven and emotionally driven as well.

I mean, I think what he said about the victims of

what is it, Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook, was despicable.

Yeah, he's had those moments for sure.

Yeah, yeah.

But now

I think he's kind of learned a lesson, maybe.

I don't know.

I mean, he certainly has said he, you know, regrets those comments.

And

I do find it fascinating, though.

I was reading that, I can't remember if it was this story or it was another one.

No, it was the Rudy Giuliani case.

The Rudy Giuliani case is going on right now where he's being accused of defamation.

And because he went after, he even reported, he talked about these two election workers and said bad things about him.

Things now, he says now that we're wrong.

Like he admits that now.

And

they're coming after him for tens of millions of dollars for these things.

And it's fascinating to to me how this system works because the evidence they use as to why that was harmful are things like

people were posting online.

They're saying they wanted to kill these people.

They wanted them to hang.

That's not your responsibility.

Shouldn't those people be the ones getting sued?

Yes.

How about finding out who those people are and suing them?

Now, look, Giuliani made.

They're arresting them.

Right.

I mean, those are crimes.

Yes.

And it's like, for some reason, Giuliani, like, look, I'm not defending Giuliani's actions through that period, but, like,

if what he said, quote unquote, caused someone to post a terrible thing, a crime online, we are acting as if those people have no agency at all.

And that, and, and that Giuliani, or in this case, Alex Jones, is the arbiter of this.

It's bizarre.

But isn't that

what the left argues all the time?

Yeah.

That you don't have agency on your own.

Yeah, you don't have responsibility.

No one has personal responsibility.

Nobody has agency.

Nobody has anything.

And it's like, well, you go down this road and it's like

people should be responsible for their own actions.

If the problem is these people were being threatened, those people who threatened them should be convicted of crimes.

Exactly right.

Maybe there's a responsibility for Giuliani in what he said, but you're putting in tens of millions of dollars because of these side consequences that other people executed.

He never said he wanted someone murdered.

But I think all of this stuff is

coming back around.

I really do.

I think,

and it's because of Elon Musk.

The reason why I brought up Alex Jones was because Elon Musk's, Elon Musk put him back on.

And in fact, do we have the clip of Elon Musk?

Here's cut five.

Listen to this.

The FBI, the DHS, et cetera, if they reach out to X, I believe they called it defensive briefings in 2020 regarding, which eventually culminated in the censorship of Hunter Biden.

If they started reaching out again, would that be something that you or the team and and no i can understand if you don't want to answer now but you would consider making public

we will be as transparent as is possible as possible with uh with that you know

yeah and and frankly if if if if i if i think a government agency is breaking the law in their demands on the platform i would I would be prepared to go to prison personally if I think they are they are the ones breaking the law i think he means that too i think he absolutely means that both stu and i are reading the book on elon musk right now and he's not afraid of this kind of stuff he does not like bullies no you know i don't think he's a i'm a strict constitutionalist and i i don't no he is who he is um but one of the things he is is an underdog that does not like bullies and uh he'll he'll take them apart.

He would go to jail before he would do something that he felt the government was telling him to do that

he felt was wrong.

I think he would go to jail.

But he's the game changer.

He is truly the game changer.

It's, you know, there have been voices, voices like mine, voices like Carlson.

I mean, look at what Tucker has done just on X.

That kept him relevant that fast.

And it kept him relevant because Fox never took online seriously

still today they don't so he could go on an online platform

and

and just have his show which kept him relevant because it wasn't a competitor and he wasn't fighting for commercial time

That was a mistake on Fox.

That just shows they still don't take it seriously.

But because Elon Musk, before Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson just would have been gone, just gone.

And he would have had to sit out a contract before he could come to places like this.

Yeah, I mean, think about what Elon Musk just did.

He makes this comment that is perceived widely to be, have anti-Semitic issues.

And now, you know, even people like Ben Shapiro defended him on it for what he was trying to say.

He clarified it later.

He said it was a mistake the way he worded it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

You know the whole deal.

But all, you know, all these advertisers drop because they, of this comment that Elon Musk makes.

Then he goes in front of the New York Times, their deal book situation and says, you know, F off if you're going to, don't, don't advertise with us.

I don't care.

Go screw yourself.

He does that.

Right after that, puts Alex Jones back on X, right?

And not only has he put him back on, He's recommending you follow him.

Like, I mean, there was a story on CNN today that it was, that they were, like, you know what it is, who to follow?

They're putting Alex Jones in there like as a priority for people to follow.

Like, that's not someone who cares about your games.

No, that's somebody who is fighting against you and just rubbing your nose in it.

Yeah.

Heath, you know, Elon does not care.

And this is a guy who, by the way, defended the ban on Alex Jones, saying that Alex Jones was over the line.

Like the stuff that he did about Sandy Hook, that was over the line.

That was a little too crazy.

He's changed that over the past six months or so.

That was his first reaction.

Because you can't do that.

You cannot judge speech.

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You're either all in or you're slicing and dicing the entire time.

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He said some things that were absolutely crazy.

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who is from the Heartland,

the Heartland, what is it?

Foundation or Institute, yeah.

He belongs in an Institute.

Anyway,

he's here to tell us about the poll that was done by Rasmussen

that we spoke about yesterday.

It is officially out today.

It is the Heartland Rasmussen poll on

voter fraud.

And for the first time, a poll has been done and asked,

did you cheat?

Did you or somebody you know fill out

a ballot that wasn't yours?

Did you forge a name?

And shockingly, there was about 8 to 10% percent of people on both sides that's

claim to be cheating in the 2020 election justin welcome to the program uh thanks glenn merry christmas

great introduction too i really appreciate that radio hall of fame or there you go

you know look it once you're in the hall of fame they can't revoke it So you kind of like coast.

You're like, whatever.

I mean, O.J.

Simpson is still in the NFL Hall of Fame.

Amen.

You can't really do anything to get out.

So be glad I didn't chop your head

I am.

I really am.

Thanks.

Okay.

tell me the ins and outs of this poll, because I have some questions.

First, set the stage on the poll.

Right.

So the poll is of a thousand of voters, the vast majority of which voted in the 2020 election.

And basically, we asked people, the Heartland Institute and Rasmussen reports, we asked people about various fraudulent behaviors

without actually telling them that it's a form of fraud.

So we asked them,

did someone else fill out a ballot for you using your name?

Did you fill out someone else's ballot?

Did you

mail a ballot in a state that you're no longer a permanent resident in?

Did you sign a ballot, forge a signature for someone else's ballot, with or without their permission?

And honestly, I don't think

I had this idea for a poll about a month ago and I had numerous, numerous people telling me, do not do this poll.

Do not ask it because it's going to be a huge bust and no one is going to admit that they committed fraud.

Absolutely no one.

My father, who's probably listening to the show right now, begged me, don't do this show.

And as usual, dad was wrong and I was right.

And I'm glad that I did the poll because more,

you said in the lead up to this, it was somewhere between 8 to 10 percent, I think you said, admitted to committing fraud.

It's actually double that.

It was between 17 and 21 percent of people who did mail-in ballots said yes to one of the questions that we asked.

So these are people admitting this is this is this is at minimum one in five mail-in ballots fraudulent.

Okay, so so hang on.

I have

sat down

at the kitchen

and not with voter stuff, but I've sat down in the kitchen and, you know, I'm filling out some paperwork and my wife is supposed to fill it out or whatever.

And she'll be like, my hands are a mess.

I've just sign it.

I don't want to sign it.

Just sign it.

I've filled out forms for her.

And I think a lot of people have.

you know, been in a situation to where you're like, just sign it because

it's your spouse and you're together.

And

you don't think you're committing fraud because everybody, there's no victim here.

You know what I mean?

How much of a role do you think that played with like older people that they're, you know, they're voting together at home and maybe the wife or the husband is filling out the ballot, you know, and but they're sitting there together?

Yeah, I mean, I think that that's a fair point for at least some of the questions.

This is why we didn't just ask only one kind of question.

We also asked, you know, did you cast a ballot in a state where you're no longer a resident?

It's kind of hard to explain that one.

You know, or did you, you know,

and did you fill out someone's ballot is a little bit different than did you just sign it kind of at the end.

So I think there's that as well.

The really important thing I think for people to keep in mind though is that although that scenario is

entirely possible, and I think a lot of people actually did experience it, and people might be thinking, well, you know, what's the big deal?

Well, the big deal is this.

In previous elections, when you had to go vote in person, that would never happen.

Correct.

It couldn't happen.

And so I think this explains, I think this survey explains why we saw so many additional votes.

We saw...

It was like 20 million additional votes or some crazy thing like that that we had never seen before.

Why did we see record number of votes?

I think because there were a ton of people filling out ballots for other people in the House.

I think that was the most common form of voter fraud.

And so that's not on the same level maybe as stealing ballots from a ballot box or something like that, but it's still a form of fraud and it's still something that impacted the election.

So what's going to happen because of this poll?

I mean,

first of all, when you look at it, it's 22% Democrat, 21% Republican.

But that's misleading because

almost two to one, if I'm not mistaken, Democrats are sending in ballots where Republicans are going in and voting on Election Day.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think we know, I don't think we have enough data to know for sure who did this more often in terms of party affiliation or voting

for Biden or Trump or anything like that.

I think the most we can say, though, very definitively, is that voter fraud was a major part of the election.

It just was.

And I don't know that we could tell who won the election based on this, if this survey is accurate, is reflective of reality.

I don't know that we could tell who won.

Because in a lot of these states,

like in Georgia and places like that, I mean, the difference between Trump and Biden was a fraction of a percentage point.

So if voter fraud was even close to what we're seeing in this poll, we don't know who won in that state.

That's the truth.

And so what we have to do going forward is

make sure that if you're going to have mail-in mail-in balloting, which I don't think is a great idea, but if you're going to have it in your state, then widespread mail-in balloting, then make people go to a notary or someone who's an unbiased party official, have the state pay for the notary or whatever.

Most government buildings have a notary anyway.

Banks have notaries for their customers.

That's usually for free.

Go there and get the ballot notarized.

If you require that, then most of this problem pretty much goes away overnight.

Oh my gosh, voter suppression.

Now you're expecting, you're expecting people of any color, pink, black, yellow, red, orange, purple, to know where they could find a notary?

That's something only in a rich person's world.

I see what you're doing.

Yeah, no,

you know, that's what they're going to say.

My response to that would be, fine, then we'll send notaries to people's houses.

We'll do whatever we have to do to get this.

No, here's what we'll do.

Here's what we'll do.

Go on election day and vote.

Yeah.

Go on election day and vote.

Make voting three days, whatever, but go to the place where we all have to go.

We all have to get the little flag, you know, sticker.

I voted today.

That's what you do.

I mean, unless you have a, you know, an excuse, right?

Like, I mean, that's how it did with us.

We used to work out a state on election day.

Obviously, doing election coverage, it was impossible for us to get there on that day.

So we had

an outside ballot.

We had one of those, what are they called?

Provisional ballot.

No, not provisional.

YK.

Absentee ballot.

Thank you so much, Justin.

Hey, Justin, do you have anything that you can compare this to?

Like, obviously, like...

I'm wondering, is this a consistent number from election to election, or is this something that is

odd in 2020?

Do we know?

Because there's...

I thought I asked Justin.

That's my

sorry.

I thought I asked Justin.

was it Justin I thought

I said Justin hey Justin, what's your answer to this and then Glenn answered so I don't know I don't know

well Glenn and I share one mind so really when you ask and it's my show

Yeah

the answer to the answer to Stu's the Steus fine question is that we do not have this poll has never been done before as far as I could tell I tried to find something similar to it.

This has never been done ever in history.

I'm not sure that it would even necessarily matter if it had in some ways,

because

during COVID, things changed so dramatically.

Prior to COVID, there was hardly any mail-in balloting allowed anyway without an excuse.

So I don't know that it would matter all that much if we had something to excuse.

It definitely expanded.

However, there were,

but

not like this.

Yeah, not like this.

This could sway the national election now.

The way we do it now.

I mean, and honestly,

the government should

care.

Here's why.

Chaos ensues.

If you don't believe the election results, then

strongman tactics or chaos ensues.

You know, you know, why did January 6th happen?

Well, because there were a lot of people people that didn't believe that those were accurate results.

Well, that's because Donald Trump.

No,

it's because we had unprecedented changes.

And also, for the first time in my life, with an exception of the year 2000, all of a sudden, We don't know the answer.

And even in the year 2000, they didn't shut down counting.

There were just too many things that were irregular.

And the government has lied and lied and lied about so many different things.

It's a conspiracy theory.

Oh, he's got a bank in Moscow that's contacting him at Trump Tower.

Wait, what?

They're pushing conspiracy theories while saying real things are conspiracy theories.

If they don't clean this up,

And they know this, they are responsible for any kind of unrest, any kind of, because it's easy to take care of,

especially in today's world.

It's called blockchain.

Really simple.

Yeah, I mean, and I think the scale of this, too, is

just

so absolutely massive.

It's hard to imagine that this didn't,

you're a completely reasonable person for believing that voter fraud impacted the election based on this survey and a whole bunch of other things that happened.

But to just give people some perspective on the numbers, there were 159 million ballots cast.

159 million, that's all ballots.

68 million of those ballots were cast mail-in ballots.

It was by far the biggest mail-in ballot election in 2020 ever.

If this survey is reflective of what actually happened, And one in five mail-in ballots are potentially fraudulent or should have been thrown out, shouldn't have been been accepted.

That would be 13 million ballots.

13 million ballots.

And so this has to be cleaned up or we don't have a country.

We don't have a country anymore because you're exactly right.

No one will trust the election.

So here's the latest.

The D.C.

board has removed now 65,000

ineligible registrations and will remove 38,000 more in California and Illinois contacted by Judicial Watch.

Judicial Watch sent notice letters to the election officials in D.C., California, Illinois, saying,

you're violating the National Voter Registration Act.

There are people that have moved out of the state that are long dead, didn't exist, whatever, should not be voting, and you're leaving them on the rolls.

I mean, it really is crazy to me that it only seems like the right is doing anything about this.

Well, of course they think they're going to lose.

Well, we're losing our republic.

Shouldn't we all care about this?

Shouldn't we care?

I mean, the poll comes out, and it's,

you can't really explain it this way because of the numbers of people that were participating, but just looking at it at the surface, 21%,

22%, Republican, Democrat.

We should all care about this.

The minute we stop caring about every single vote that is cast is the day the Republic is no more.

And I don't know.

Maybe we're there.

Maybe we're already past it.

I'm not.

I wish someone would lead the charge to clean this up.

Yeah, that's a great point.

And when you look at election laws that have been passed, actually, a lot of red states are terrible in their regard.

Terrible.

Terrible in it.

And some deep blue states are actually better than red states.

I mean, I was looking at state-by-state laws on mail-in balloting.

In Rhode Island, which is as blue of a state as you will ever find, been dominated by the Democrat Party for a century.

Quickly.

They require two witnesses or a notary for a person to cast a mail-in ballot.

They have to have two witnesses or a notary.

Most red states don't even require any witness at all.

Some of them don't even do signature verification for mail-in ballots.

Like Kansas doesn't even do a signature verification.

The poll is out.

The poll is out today.

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Well, the University of Wisconsin,

the system board of regions, rejected an $800 million deal with the state, choosing instead to keep expanding DEI programs.

So that means, means, you know, the raises and everything else, it's not going to go through because

they wanted to keep, you know, DEI expanding.

They weren't asked to eliminate it.

They were just said, okay, let's calm down on this just a little.

Can we not keep hiring all these DEI people?

No, apparently not.

Not in Wisconsin.

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there is a new op-ed now that came out with the Daily Caller, and I have to read it to you.

It's amazing.

It's from Will Pierce.

Listen to what he says.

I've been a loyal Democrat for as long as I can remember.

Oh, it's one of these fake Democrats.

Uh-huh.

Keep listening.

I spearheaded Joe Biden's exploratory effort in 2015.

I served as a senior advisor to Senator Bernie Sanders during the 2016 and 2020 elections.

I even played a role as a fundraiser for Biden during the 2020 general election.

But despite my active involvement in the Democratic Party, the concerns I hold regarding the party's direction in recent years can no longer be ignored.

I love

our country.

That is why I can no longer remain in today's Democratic Party, a party that is focused on dividing us by radicalizing every issue and undermining our rights enshrined in the Constitution.

The main reason I'm leaving the Democratic Party is its utter disconnect with the American people.

The party that once championed the working class has now been overtaken by elites in affluent hubs who couldn't care less about the struggles of the average American.

This shift has left many Americans, including myself, unheard and feeling like an afterthought of the Democratic Party.

The party's shortcomings in education have played a significant role in my departure as well.

They have declared war on concerned parents like myself, labeling them domestic terrorists, or for expressing their opposition to radical curricula that disseminate sexual content to young children.

The party's emphasis on progressive ideology in schools at the expense of parental involvement and a

robust STEM education raises legitimate concerns about the future preparedness of our children.

It is time to shift our focus back to the fundamentals that ensure our children's success, thereby building a foundation for a more prosperous society.

I would love to talk to this guy because I can't imagine that we agree on, but so far I agree with everything.

I work for Bernie Sanders.

But I mean, it's interesting, and this isn't a, hey, Joe Biden's too old.

We need a better candidate.

No, no.

This is a

full-fledged what we've been saying.

Yeah.

I think the strongest line so far is, I love our country.

Also, the Democratic Party's shift towards identity politics has steered us away from the timeless belief of judging individuals by their character and not by the color of their skin or similar characteristics, the weaponization of race and gender ideology for partisan political purposes does a significant disservice to Dr.

Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy, and it's a detriment to us all.

Amen.

Politics to me is about addition, not division.

It is meant to unite us as a nation where we can put aside our differences on some issues to come together on as one cohesive unit.

However, the Democrats' tendency to label dissenters as extreme, shutting down meaningful discourse, has veered away from the principles I believe are essential for a thriving democracy.

In the years as part of the Democratic Party, I witnessed a hesitancy and at points clear unwillingness to address critical issues for fear of alienating segments of the party.

I'm looking at the Democratic Party's vision for an ideal world, and it is a very concerning reality that emerges.

They imagine a country where dissent from the powers that be result in punishment.

This guy, I mean, he was part of Biden, he was part of Bernie Sanders, and now he is finally to a place to where he realizes they imagine a country where dissent from the powers that be result in punishment.

That is fascism.

The term equity has lost its true meaning as the party struggles to understand its use in a diverse nation.

What was once a noble pursuit of justice and fairness has been corrupted within democratic circles, diluting its significance to the point to where it has lost any meaning.

The party's attempts to champion equity now seem to prioritize ideological

conformity over the genuine pursuits of justice, leaving a void in the very very principles that should guide our efforts toward a more inclusive and just society.

As I've grown older, my priorities have shifted toward ensuring that my tax dollars contribute to the welfare of our children, support for the less fortunate, and secure national defense.

Unfortunately, the Democratic Party's current focus involves burdensome taxation, prioritizing foreign aid over domestic needs, and accumulating debt that compromises our national security.

The Democratic Party's leadership also raises concern.

President Biden's struggles while doing the job day to day, coupled with controversies surrounding his family, have brought forward serious issues that warrant our careful consideration.

The heavy-handed influence of the Clinton dynasty within the Democratic Party further adds to the narrative of a party entangled in controversies and detached from the concerns of everyday Americans.

democratic policies paint a bleak picture of a country where a significant portion of people's hard-earned wages are funneled into an ever-expanding government, leaving individuals working tirelessly just to make ends meet.

Take, for instance, San Francisco and Chicago, where tax dollars are diverted from aiding the most vulnerable to instead masking their struggles from public view.

In this unsettling scenario, the elites indulge in the luxury luxury of private jets and utilize taxpayer funds for personal gain.

They are far more concerned with consolidating power than with genuinely addressing the needs and concerns of the American people.

The difference between stated values and actual behavior undermines the trust that citizens should be able to place in their government.

As I reflect on these issues, I'm compelled to seek a political home that aligns with a commitment to judging individuals by their character, fostering accountability, and advancing the well-being of all Americans.

By joining the Republican Party,

I am not abandoning my values.

Instead, I'm seeking a political home that aligns more closely with my vision for a free, united, and prosperous America.

The Republican Party, with its emphasis on individual freedoms, fiscal responsibility, and a commitment to addressing the concerns of all Americans, offers a new path forward, one that I am eager to explore as I re-enter the political arena.

That is fascinating.

He's wrong about the Republican Party, but I mean, fiscal responsibility?

Uh-huh, right.

In comparison, maybe.

But in comparison.

In comparison, perhaps, perhaps.

That is.

I think incredible.

Can you ever see yourself having that type of moment?

Yes.

I think we already have.

I've gone from

not a Republican because

I just don't like labels to not a Republican because I don't like the Republicans.

I mean, I vote generally Republican, but I'll never give them a dime ever again.

If I had a choice to get out and have another, if another party started started that was serious like libertarian party

it feels like they're never really serious about winning um

and uh if i had another choice that's why i'm independent i think that's why a vast

vast number of former republicans and democrats are now going independent because they don't feel either party is really representing them yeah

his transition there is interesting because he's saying i haven't changed my principles but like you know talking about some of these things.

Yeah.

I mean, like, how can you be with Bernie, a Bernie Sanders advisor and care about fiscal responsibility?

Like, I mean, come on.

That's why I'd love to talk to you.

I mean, I'm curious as to whether it was one of those things where he's realizing he was wrong because he's saying I'm still the same guy, basically.

But he did say on the fiscal responsibility, as I got, as I have gotten older.

So it's kind of like if you're not a liberal when you're 20, you don't have a heart.

If you're not conservative by the time you're 50, you don't have a brain.

In the famous words of Churchill.

Yeah, that's interesting.

So this would be a really fascinating guy to talk to.

I would love to talk to this guy.

How does that transition happen, Glenn?

Because if you have a moment like that where you're going, I mean, this is a big life change, right?

He is the most hated man on the left for a while.

You're saying what's the result of this happening?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, that's for sure.

But like

I'm saying in a quiet moment, right?

Like, you're at your house, and one day you're looking at your life and you're saying, God, I've spent my entire life trying to get people like Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden elected.

And I think they're wrong.

Like, I think I've, I've, I've spent my life working for something that is actually hurting the country.

What kind of, what kind of moment is that in a person's life?

I didn't think we've had that.

We had that with the Patriot Act.

We had that smaller ones, but it was led to the same thing.

We've

fancy, though, that's not okay.

Okay, try this.

I have

always been red, white, and blue.

I bleed red, white, and blue.

I bleed the United States of America.

I have always believed that we were the good guys.

I don't think so anymore.

That we're the good guys.

Yeah.

I think that, I think the intent of most of our soldiers, the intent of most of the people in America is different than the intent of those at the CIA, NSA, now FBI.

It's just different from the people in Washington, the higher ups in Washington.

I think they are on the wrong side.

They are no longer on the side of the American people.

So I have a really hard time.

You know what's weird is I've had an easier time to say the Pledge of Allegiance.

I used to have a problem.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

It's always bothered me.

The flag,

only because it's a Woodrow Wilson FDR thing,

it is always a symbol, but I have concentrated on and the republic for which it stands.

And

that has become more and more important to me.

The republic.

I fly the flag differently.

I used to fly the flag

a sign.

Yeah,

I love America.

Now I almost fly it mentally in

defense of the republic as almost a symbol of rebellion in my life.

I believe in the republic for which that stands,

where I never would have thought that way.

Never.

I always gave people, you know, 25 years ago, I gave everybody the benefit of the doubt.

We all kind of think alike.

That was hard.

That was really hard when I at least woke up and went, I think they're working against us.

I think

I don't even know how long this has gone on.

I think we're actually, we've been conned for a very long time.

Those principles that we all thought we had.

No, the elites don't have those principles.

That's a big awakening, for sure.

I always think of the follow-up question, which, because you said, you know, I don't know if we're the good guys anymore, but the follow-up question to that I always have is: as compared to what?

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So you said you're not as sure that we're the good guys anymore, but as compared to what?

The people.

I thought,

because this is what a republic is, a democracy is one man, one vote.

And then after that, the government has all the power and it no longer has to represent because it's not a republic.

It's not a representative

body.

But we are.

And I always thought they're bad guys and good guys, but

for the most part, they represent the people.

When I was down in Houston, when was it last week doing this thing on illegal immigration and a place called Colony Ridge?

We're making this documentary.

It's coming out in January.

And

I'm there, and one thing is consistently said by everyone, no matter if they agreed with each other or not.

They all said one thing.

Who's representing me?

Who's coming to my defense?

Who's standing there saying, this can't happen, this is wrong?

There's nobody.

And then they followed it with a terrifying remark.

Every single one of them,

there's too much money to be made here.

They're all on the take.

Now, I don't know if they are or not.

We, as of yet, have not found any evidence that anybody's on the take.

There is money being exchanged.

You know, $1.4 million went to the governor of Texas, but did he do anything because of that?

So far, I don't have any evidence, but there is a lot of money sloshing around.

Who's representing you?

You know, the guy in

Argentina, is it Malay?

Is that how you say his name?

This guy is, I think he's remarkable.

I don't know if you've been following what he's been doing,

but he is his

policies are called the chainsaw policies.

Okay.

I love this.

He says the country is out of control.

It no longer represents the average person.

So he's not going to grow the size of government.

He took it from 18 departments.

He took that down to nine.

I want to tell you what he did in a little more detail here in a few minutes, but he took it down to nine.

He cut the government's size in half.

Then he said, that's not enough.

I got to get rid of the central bank because the central bank is dealing for them and the banks, not for you.

This guy actually, I think, means it.

And he's not gaining power for himself because he's reducing the size of the government.

When the government is gigantic, by the way, we're about to hit a record this month of 23 million Americans working for the federal government.

That's a lot of votes.

It's a lot of votes.

23 million Americans.

That's a record.

When you have this giant bureaucracy that can have their fingers in everything you do, including the mud puddles on your property,

there's a problem.

There's a real problem because that government is working against you in most cases.

They'll say, you know, it's for the good of all.

Well, that's collective.

That's collective, not individual.

And there is a huge difference.

In our country, we're supposed to be about the individual, the character and the attributes and the merits of the individual.

Once the government lose sight of the individual,

they're no longer the good guy.

They're no longer the good guy.

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We were just talking about Argentina's new libertarian president.

You know, Sunday, he took office and took a chainsaw to government spending and what he calls the country's political cast by signing executive orders to cut the number of government ministries from 18 to 9.

Now, you think you have bad inflation.

Argentina has 143%

annual inflation.

That means prices are 143%

higher than they were the year before.

That is awful.

And he said,

we're going to stop the bleeding here with a chainsaw plan.

He said also that they would accept or adopt the U.S.

dollar and shut down Argentina's central bank because he says that's the biggest problem.

here's what he said.

Ministry of Tourism and Sports, out.

Ministry of Culture, out.

These are like departments.

Department of Environment and Sustainable Development out.

Department of Women, Genders and Diversity out.

Ministry of Public Works out.

He said the thievery of politics is over.

Long live freedom, damn it.

We don't have a margin for sterile discussions.

Our country demands action and immediate action.

The political class left the country at the brink of its biggest crisis in history.

We don't desire the hard decisions that will need to be made in the coming weeks, but they didn't leave us any options.

There's a guy who loves his country, is trying to fix it, answering to the people, not to the elites.

And then let's go to the

University of Wisconsin.

The board voted 9 to 8, University of Wisconsin System Board of Regents, 9 to 8, they rejected an $800 million deal with the Wisconsin state legislature, choosing instead to keep expanding diversity, equity, and inclusion programs

and hiring staff and admitting students based on DEI standards, not merit.

So what they said is

they don't want the $800 million in funding.

They don't want raises for every one of their 39,000 employees.

They want DEI.

And it's not expanding it.

they're not reducing it all they said was we want to freeze on hiring DEI coordinators for three years

and we want to transition some of these positions into colorblind student success roles so in other words merit-based hiring for students

they couldn't take it now who are they listening to are they listening to the special interests or are they listening to the average american because the average American is concerned about the education of their children, which falls right into if my children don't have it any better than I did, then the country's not going to be better than I did.

They're going to have bigger problems.

The country could fall.

I mean, who is fighting for America and who is trying to destroy it?

It's a great question.

And I think

the answer is getting clearer and clearer, isn't it?

Oh, I think it is.

There is a new update to the story we've been talking about, what, for now, two weeks, when it comes to the

Harvard and, what was it, Harvard Penn and MIT?

This

testimony they gave.

Yeah, the presidents of those universities coming out and saying, you know, okay, so yes,

they were calling for,

you know, the death to Jews and genocide for Jews, but I mean, we don't want to stop freedom of speech.

Right, which is hilarious because they absolutely want to stop freedom of speech on so many other issues.

So the Penn president had to step down.

She's gone already.

Now they were going after the Harvard one after all of this happened and the board agreed to review

her presidency and whether she should remain in the presidency.

And Harvard and the University Board has unanimously supported her.

It's Claudine Gay is her name.

They called her the right leader to help our community heal.

Now, there was two things going on here.

One was, hey, I noticed you said that calling for the genocide of Jews was not against your code of conduct.

That whole controversy we've covered in pretty great detail.

The other controversy that has been bubbling up for a while now is her accusations of plagiarism, that she's been plagiarizing and has been for years and years and years and years.

And there's four instances, I think, that

I believe it was the Washington Free Beacon initially who found this.

And the Harvard Crimson has written about this and did say it does appear that some of these examples do violate the plagiarism policy of Harvard.

Now, of course, the board said the exact opposite.

They said we found no violations of this at all.

But apparently

even more and more and more coming here.

Now they believe,

this is from Chris Aaron Siberium, who's been, I think, on, he's been on my show for sure.

I think he's been on the show too.

But he says, Chris Ruffo's examples are just the tip of the iceberg.

In four articles published between 1993 and 2017, including her dissertation, Gay paraphrased or quoted almost 20 authors without proper attribution, in some cases lifting entire paragraphs verbatim.

Wow.

This is.

That is absolutely.

This is absolutely unquestionable.

Absolutely plagiarism.

Now,

you can do that, but you have to quote it.

Yeah, you quote it, and and you cite it.

Now, Harvard says there was no violation, which is incredibly, it's ridiculous, but then also is changing four of the articles to update it and put in citations for the work, which, again, if it's not a problem,

why are you changing it, right?

If it was totally fine.

To me, now, you know, I have maybe a weird stance on this, but to me, it's like, Maybe the allowing the genocide talk is enough.

Maybe, maybe Maybe the plagiarism wasn't even necessary to remove her.

Maybe thinking...

Oh, that's crazy.

I know.

It's a weird thing.

Like maybe calling for the entire genocide of all Jews

and allowing that on campus and saying, okay, well, that's not really a violation of our code of conduct.

Maybe that's enough to want to remove the person.

But the point here, though, Glenn, and it's interesting because, you know, the lady at Penn,

white lady.

stepped down and was pressured out almost immediately.

Can you do that to someone who's blatantly a DEI hire?

Right?

Like, once you put someone in that role, how are you going to

fire them

for these?

You're oppressing them by trying to fire them.

You're oppressing them by holding them accountable for plagiarism.

Correct.

Right?

Like,

they've, you know, these groups, these intersectional groups, have been so oppressed for so long.

Well, if they had to plagiarize, it's the same way they talk about Hamas, right?

Well, you can't judge them with your

white white Western rules when it comes to rape as a weapon of war.

I mean,

they're in an open-air prison after all.

They go down these roads all the time.

So, I mean, is it even possible if you make one of these decisions and put a DEI person in front of your organization?

Can you even fire them?

So, why, what, what is

what does this cause all the way down to the bottom?

What does this cause?

I mean, this is, I said this beginning in probably 2010:

chaos is going to be the operative word in the next 10 years.

Chaos.

And anyone who is participating in chaos or causing chaos, you need to get as far away from as you possibly can, because that will be the tool that destroys us is chaos, right?

Everything that DEI does is cause chaos to the system.

How do you answer that question you just asked?

You can't.

Because if you try to fire somebody who is oppressed, then you become the oppressor, even though that person is doing something they shouldn't be doing.

It's chaos, right?

Listen to this story.

Recent Chinese cyber attacks aim to cause chaos in the U.S.

You and I know right now, and this, again, is one of the reasons why I know.

You have very few people in Congress, in the Senate, and the administration, and quite honestly, in the entire 23 million workforce of the federal government that actually care about America.

Hacks are being made with an intention towards some future action rather than disrupting systems in the moment.

They suggest now that the People's Liberation Army of China is testing and the United States

capabilities in case hostilities break out over Taiwan.

I can guarantee you, if we have another four years of this, we don't make it, but if we do,

Taiwan will be taken by China and there's nothing we can do about it.

And if we try, what are they going to do?

Listen to this.

Chinese have attempted to compromise critical infrastructure and pre-position themselves to be able to disrupt or destroy that critical infrastructure in the event of a conflict to either prevent the United States from being able to project power into Asia or cause societal chaos inside the United States to affect our decision-making around a crisis.

That is a significant change from the Chinese cyber activity from seven to ten years ago that was focused primarily on political and economic espionage.

They have hacked the water utilities in Hawaii, at least one oil and gas pipeline in America.

They have broken into Texas independent power grid.

They are looking at targets like our water and our power to shut it down so the American people will go, enough, enough, enough.

Leave China alone.

Cause chaos.

So what are we going to do?

Because I have come to the point to where my new slogan, whenever I get frustrated, is, hmm, that's going to be interesting to see how that works out.

Okay.

But that's not just giving in.

Huh.

Wow, the government's not doing anything about China.

Going to be interesting to see how that all works out, isn't it?

That's defeatist.

Saying that as part one

is recognizing the things you can change and not change.

But what follows that is, I'm going to to get my ass in gear, make sure I have access to power and water and everything else, because

this government is to say it's representative of the American people is a lie.

And how do I know that?

Because we gather Republicans and Democrats all the time, all across America, and we're not as divided as they say we are.

What we are all looking at, and some just refuse to speak out about it,

is the chaos on our streets.

The chaos.

Most of the people in Oregon, most of them know.

This is insanity.

Most of the people in Seattle, and maybe not Seattle proper, but the rest of the state,

I'm convinced that they at least know there's a problem here.

And certainly, in the red part of the nation and the red part of each of our states, we do know that, and our neighbors know that.

Nobody's doing anything about it because there is no representative government.

So, what do you need to represent yourself, your family, your neighborhood?

That's what you need.

It is critical in the next year, because I honestly can tell you for the first time in my career

of almost 50 years,

I can't tell you what America is even going to look like, even if the America that we all conjure right now,

I'm not sure that even exists in that form 12 months from now.

Don't know.

Think of all the scenarios that could happen just with the elections.

You're right on the...

You should be focusing more on our, you know, your local.

And I mean, I don't mean local like your township.

I mean more like your family and your street.

I mean, you need to be,

keep that under control.

I have said for a long time, when it happens, where you are is where you will be.

If we, if something happens and China decides to go on infrastructure, they collapse the electrical grid or shut it down for a while, water, et cetera, et cetera, absolute chaos.

And you're not going anyplace.

You're not flying to your cabin.

You're not getting out of the cities.

You will be there.

That's where you'll be.

So make your decision where you want to be and be there because it's all going to come back to you.

Yeah, it really will.

So think about this for the next year.

Just to go into the presidential stuff for a minute.

What way does this go

where everything's fine?

Like, what way does this go where I don't mean everything's fine as far as policy?

I mean, as far as like, there isn't chaos in the streets.

Like, Donald Trump loses.

I think there's going to be people who are going to think it's stolen and look what they're doing.

Donald Trump wins.

The left is going to do that times 10, right?

You know, Donald Trump somehow loses the primary or is in prison.

Can you imagine what happens then?

No.

And I don't even think you've begun to scratch the surface of that.

Honestly, just with those two candidates, how does it end?

I don't even think you've even hit all the options.

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I mean, it is remarkable to me how many things can happen in the next 12 months.

I mean, just look at Joe Biden is what, 78?

He'll be 79 in 12 months from now.

Do you think he's going to get better, worse, or about the same with his cognitive ability?

Think about he's degrading at the same speed he already is, and America figures out, oh, dear Lord, if we elect him, Kamala Harris is going to be our president.

Or Biden figures that out in the Democratic Party, and they're like, we got to switch that before the election.

Chaos.

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