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I can't take the insanity that is coming out from these global, quote, leaders that are telling us that we need to abolish all coal.

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He's from the Center for Industrial Progress and founder and president and the author of a great book called Fossil Future.

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Center for Industrial Progress, founder and president and author of Fossil Future.

He's been watching COP28, which,

you know, I didn't see one through 27, so I didn't really get it, but we wanted to have him come in and fill us in.

It's getting more and more insane, isn't it?

Yeah, I mean, what's been your kind of observation just looking at it from headlines?

I'm curious.

My observation is the arrogance is getting out of control.

The attitude of the little people must be tamed is sickening.

Yeah, I mean, it's,

you see these calls.

I was just reading this morning.

They're considering the draft language.

So just so people know, so COP stands for Conference of the Parties, and it's part of what's called the United Nations Framework Concerning Climate Change.

They have all these acronyms and everything like that.

And then the allegedly scientific basis of this is called the IPCC Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

And this is really the epicenter of the net zero movement.

This is where they convene every year.

And they always say the same thing, which is we did a a decent job restricting fossil fuels, but we really didn't do enough.

So this year we really have to finish the job.

And so they start arguing and everyone starts out by saying we should get rid of fossil fuels.

That's the starting point.

And then some remotely sane people kind of mitigate it, but it still ends up with a totally evil in my view conclusion.

But it's, but right now they're literally considering that something that says a just and orderly phase out of fossil fuels.

That's one option.

The second one is...

What's a just

and orderly?

Is that like the like America should get rid of it first?

Yes, exactly.

Exactly.

So it's, yeah, so that's, that's the kind of

that's the one that's getting headlines right now because the leaders want that.

And it's really perverse because

the only legitimacy to it is they're recognizing, wait a second, it doesn't make sense for undeveloped countries and developing countries to have net zero policies.

They're already a net zero.

That's their problem.

Yeah, right.

Right.

That's that's the issue.

But but then there's this, and so some African nations are standing up and saying, hey, it's good for us to use fossil fuels.

And some are saying it's good for the world to.

But then there's this movement, which is often like climate justice or climate reparations, where they say, no, no, no, Africa gets to use fossil fuels and then the U.S.

needs to stop using fossil fuels, you know, by 2030, which can you imagine a worse thing for the world for all the developed economies to be destroyed?

That is not going to help anybody.

So it's still just this murderous movement.

And the key to it is fossil fuel benefit denial.

They just ignore the benefits of fossil fuels.

They say, we don't like the side effects of fossil fuels on climate, but they ignore the benefits.

And it's just, it's exactly as if you had an antibiotics conference and they just said, let's get rid of antibiotics.

We don't like the side effects.

It's like, okay, but that's going to kill billions of people.

They're like, no, we're not going to talk about that.

We're just against antibiotic side effects.

So tell me what a world looks like without fossil fuels.

I mean, there's, you can't describe it to people like the destruction of it because it would be literally like, let's take their timetable of 2050, which, you know, this is something, this is not an obscure view.

This is literally the most popular political idea in the world.

I mean that truly, that we should be net zero by 2050.

So that means rapidly eliminate almost all fossil fuel use.

We could talk about some of the oil companies are pretending you can capture all the CO2 by 2050.

That definitely is not true.

We could talk about that.

So it means rapidly eliminate fossil fuels, but fossil fuels are 80% of the world's energy.

They're still growing because they're uniquely cost-effective.

That's why China is building 300 new coal plants, despite all the hostility toward fossil fuels.

So if you get rid of the most cost-effective source of energy in a world where most people use very little energy and energy is absolutely a requirement for people to survive, let alone flourish, because it allows us to use machines versus using manual labor.

That's just the apocalypse.

Like, just agriculture, we depend on diesel fuel for machinery, and we depend on natural gas for fertilizer.

We cannot feed 8 billion people without that.

And these monsters are discussing eliminating fossil fuels full stop, and they're just not thinking about this.

I have to tell you, I was watching yesterday.

I happened to be standing waiting for something.

And I stood outside and there was this big, what do you call those?

You know, the diggers with the big claws.

Excavators.

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And I'm watching that and I'm like, this is the greatest boy job ever.

I mean, that, I mean, I still, you know, at almost 60, I'm like, I want that job.

But I sat there and I watched it and I thought, well, that's going to work with battery power.

That's absolutely.

I mean, there will be nothing.

There will be nothing that is working.

And if you get rid of fossil fuels, how do you charge the batteries?

So I think it's important.

Once you start asking these questions, I think you realize a broader point of mine, which is that the green movement and the green energy movement, they're not an attempt to replace fossil fuels with better energy.

It's there's a deep hostility toward energy as such because their focus is let's let's protect the planet from human impact.

That's their basic thing.

Human impact is evil.

Let's protect the planet from it.

But if you hate human impact, you have to hate energy because energy is impact.

That's what we do with energy is we impact the planet.

We make machines.

We spent thousands of years trying to come up with a way to create energy.

Thousands of years.

We want impact.

It's like we're starving to death, freezing to death.

Every species wants impact except modern environmentalist humans.

Right.

How do you convince these adults that this is just, this is suicide?

You know, I don't understand.

I mean, I do understand that people like John Kerry,

they'll be able to have access to everything they need.

But these people who are out in the streets picketing and I mean,

are they really that

stupid?

Have they not done the math on this at all?

Well, I think, I think, so some people are truly anti-human, but I don't think that's most people.

I think most people, they've just, they haven't even realized that they've been taught to think of something in a totally biased way.

Again, ignoring all the benefits of fossil fuels and only looking at the negative side effects.

So, one thing I do is I just point that out.

Hey, with any technology, we need to be even-handed, look at both benefits and side effects.

And then you need to educate them because, for instance, people don't know that fossil fuels are uniquely cost-effective.

They're taught the fiction that fossil fuels can be rapidly replaced by solar and wind.

They're also also taught that our cultural culture.

Those are people without solar or wind power at their house.

So, so one of the things, you know, I have this book, Fossil Future, but also a free website, energytalkingpoints.com, and people can search any topic there and they can get very concise, well-referenced points.

And that's helping people educate their friends and family.

So if you're, you know, you're having discussions during Christmas, just go to energytalkingpoints.com and you can search like solar and wind, and you can learn the truth about it.

It's not too hard to explain, but the mass media and educational system have just totally made people ignorant.

So when they say no more fossil fuels, does that mean no more drilling for it either, right?

Well, it's actually worse than that because they make the, well, because so the no more fossil fuels is essentially a target.

We're going to stuff people down the oil wells to replace the dinosaurs.

Well, but what they do is they make this 2050 target for we have to be net zero, which means we can't add any more CO2 to the atmosphere by 2050, which I think would be the apocalypse if that's what you do.

But then what they do in the meantime is they say,

it's not like that happens in 2050.

They say, well, we need to ban, for example, natural gas infrastructure.

So

Markey out of Massachusetts, the senator, like he led this push to say no new natural gas infrastructure.

He said, we committed to no new natural gas infrastructure by the end of 2022.

So we should do it.

And I'm thinking, wait a second, have you witnessed Europe?

Like Europe is afraid of winter now, like it's Game of Thrones.

There's a shortage of gas in the world.

Like Russia invades Ukraine.

Everyone is desperate for gas.

Bangladesh is having blackouts because they don't have enough gas.

And your solution is no new natural gas infrastructure.

And also, they think they don't understand oil and gas deplete.

So you constantly need to build new stuff.

Otherwise, you can't even stay at your current level, let alone the larger level that people need around the world.

Right.

So, but what I'm asking is: there are other uses for

oil.

Yeah.

You know, it's our synthetics for our clothing and everything else that comes from oil, the capsules of our drugs.

What

is

it?

Well, some of them say like, oh, we can do it for that, but

that whole industry is dependent on using it for energy.

It's not like it's going to be a totally different.

It's a byproduct.

Yeah.

So it's...

I mean, but the point is the green people are not thinking about energy.

Energy is not their focus.

Protecting the planet from humans is their focus.

So every time you bring up these rational things, it's true, but they're not thinking about that.

That's not what they care about.

And in a sense, I talk about this in chapter three of Fossil Future.

In a sense, the benefits of fossil fuels are the problem because the benefits of fossil fuels allow the human race to expand for us to have 8 billion people, for us to have a lot of impact.

And a lot of these guys say explicitly, we should have 1 billion people or less.

Now, think about what that implies in terms of any kind of near-term action.

How do you get 8 billion people to 1 billion people?

They die.

Yeah, and you got to make them die die somehow

it is it's so anti-human you know that the

especially when when john kerry said at cop 28 what a couple of days ago that he just he just gets enraged when he sees

people

who should be responsible in leading other people and they don't understand we can't build another coal-fire plant.

We got to get rid of them.

I think to myself,

first of all, who are you to decide who lives and dies?

Because

that's really what it is.

And the arrogance of

your position is just,

it's crazy, crazy dangerous.

I mean, I think the coal thing is particularly scary because everyone is piling on coal.

And just if people, I mentioned energytalkingpoints.com, if you just search electricity emergency, here's the state that we have right now.

So we have a grid where we're artificially increasing demand for reliable electricity through EVs, right?

And other, and trying to ban gas stoves.

And in California, where I live, this is the worst, but it's happening ever.

Then we're artificially decreasing the supply.

by shutting down coal plants, natural gas plants, and nuclear plants.

So we have that already.

We already have an emergency where, look at what happens in Texas.

You guys have daily emergency alerts right throughout the summer.

Like your power company doesn't provide power.

They tell you not to use power.

That's a bad sign sign for the power company.

And it was never like that in Texas.

And in this environment, coal plants are protecting us from the abyss.

This is a baseload source of power.

It's reliable.

We've shut down way too many without a viable replacement.

And what does our administration do representing us on the international stage?

They say we're going to shut down the rest of them as quickly as possible.

If they do that, we lose 20% of our reliable capacity or more.

How long before

the whole country is in rolling blackouts?

I mean, it just depends because we have this EPA that's just, again, they have no contemplation of the benefits of fossil fuels or reliable electricity.

They're just focused on let's eliminate any emission we can.

So it's hard to say, but when you see the emergency alerts, that means you have shortages.

And it also means you have industrial blackouts.

It means that industrial customers are having their power cut off.

That happens before, like a blackout is an accident, but the shortages are what you want to watch for because that means that you don't have enough power.

So we have shortages and all of these plans to decrease the supply.

I think when I talk to a lot of politicians, this is one of the things I tell them, like, this is the existential thing you need to watch out for.

And because the coal industry is so small and has a small lobby, you're not getting enough information.

about it.

The oil and gas people are not on, I mean, they do a lot of good stuff.

They're not on top of this enough.

And there's some hostility toward coal sometimes, but like these coal plants, you do not want to shut these things down.

We do not have the natural gas capacity that we're building.

The natural gas infrastructure isn't built for electricity yet.

We need a lot more gas pipelines.

We need to do a lot more stuff in gas, but shutting down coal is right now is a terrible, terrible idea.

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we're talking to Alex Epstein.

He is the author of Fossil Future and he's with the Center for Industrial Progress.

He's, I think, the leading voice against climate change.

Climate catastrophism.

I can't stop the change.

Yeah, I know.

So

have you done much on the Inflation Reduction Act and

how we are paying people to dismantle these coal plants?

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So we could talk a lot about it.

I mean, I called it at the time the Mansion Green New Deal

because it was, you know, Manchin had stood up against various iterations of this.

And I think substantively, this was the same basic idea as the Green New Deal in terms of we're going to restrict fossil fuels and then we're going to subsidize and man in various ways prop up this green energies stuff.

And it's just been, it's been a total disaster.

I mean, if you look at the, you know, the projected costs went from like a couple hundred billion dollars, which is also terrible, to like a trillion dollars per decade.

One thing people don't know is it has no end date.

Like it has the subsidies have no end date because they say it's either 2032 or when we reduce our emissions by 75%, whichever comes last.

Well, even according to the Biden administration, we're not going to have that by 2050.

So it just means this endless parade of subsidies.

And what this is doing is it's in different ways forcing more and more unreliable solar and wind on the grid and trying to get rid of coal at a time when we need reliable electricity more than ever.

Where's the disconnect

in people's heads between I'm buying an electric car, I want an electric car,

and

the idea that

we're making less energy and we don't even have the grid

the way our grid is now.

It is not capable of carrying that much electricity.

I mean, I think we need to, I think it's a pretty easy connect to make.

It's just there's often this stuff where people don't have something pointed out.

And so they're just not thinking about it because they're just taught not to think about it.

But if you point it out, it's pretty simple.

That's why I say, hey, look, we're increasing the demand for reliable electricity and we're decreasing the supply.

Isn't that a, and we're talking about drastically decreasing the supply more.

Isn't that a problem?

Most people will say, yes.

I mean, this came up in the Newsome, I don't know if you saw the Newsome DeSantis debate.

I thought DeSantis had a really good point, which is a point that I make a lot,

particularly being a Californian, which is this point about, well, Governor Newsom announced, hey, no more internal combustion engine, right?

And then six days later, you know, you have to use EVs.

And six days later, California told us, don't charge your EVs.

We don't have enough power.

That's at like 10% penetration, right?

What is it like at 60% and 70%?

And we keep shutting down our reliable plants.

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are down.

Wow, how dare he?

How dare he?

I mean, we all know, we listen to the politicians and

all of the people at COP28.

We all know that climate deaths are through the roof now.

Well, it's interesting because usually they just avoid that subject.

If you look at the rhetoric, what they'll do usually is they'll just use anecdotes, right?

So they'll say, like, 50 people died in Pakistan.

This is unprecedented.

And you're like, no, wait, actually,

many, many more people used to die in Pakistan.

And in general, deaths used to be 50 times what they are today.

Interestingly, Hillary Clinton had the gall this year to say,

we just started studying climate-related deaths and we're finding that they're going up.

I'm like, wait, we have records going back a long time.

We have records of millions of people dying in a given year, like 100 years ago from drought.

And specifically, she said, and we know the biggest cause of climate death is heat death.

And this is news to me and to everyone who knows anything, because on every continent.

Russia.

Yeah.

On every continent, even the African continent,

cold-related deaths exceed heat-related deaths.

So overall, it's something like an eight to one ratio.

So for most people, the planet is too cold.

Also, by the way, warming occurs more in colder places than in warm places.

So it tends to even save more lives.

So, but she's just, I'm glad she's bringing this up because it's so easily refuted.

But they're finally bringing up the issue of death, which they've evaded for years because the numbers don't support them.

I believe it's in your book, Alex, where they've never put this.

The graph that you have, and you've shown a 98% drop in climate-related deaths, they've never put that in an IPCC report.

No.

Right.

And like that to me is so revealing.

Fundamentally, what are we talking about here?

With all these things put together, the main thing we're trying to prevent are climate-related deaths.

So that would be the number one graph to show in a report about the climate.

And

there are thousands of pages of reports.

So they don't even talk about the rate of climate death, let alone this graphic, which is taken from mainstream data, because they don't want to do it.

They also mention zero times any climate-related benefits of fossil fuels, which is odd because one of the main things we do with fossil fuels is protect ourselves from climate.

Like think about irrigation powered by fossil fuels,

crop transport, air conditioning, heating.

Like, I mean, so many ways in which we use fossil fuels take the naturally dangerous climate and make us unnaturally safe.

And if you're interested in the future of climate danger, you can't ignore the benefits of fossil fuels because your level of mastery over climate determines what's dangerous.

Correct.

Right.

It's like heat and cold.

Like in the United States, we have every climate imaginable and we can live to 80 in every state easily because we're masters of climate.

So that's what the whole world should do.

If you care about climate livability and avoiding climate danger, just have enough energy so you can deal with any climate.

It's very simple.

You can live comfortably, I mean,

in Minnesota and you can live comfortably in Arizona.

I mean, you had to chop a lot of wood to live in Minnesota and you couldn't live in Arizona.

You just couldn't have done it.

Nobody lived there until air conditioning.

It was very few that would actually move down there.

Look at what cities are thriving right now.

And that's all because of air conditioning.

And yesterday I saw a story from COP28 where they're saying, got to get rid of air conditioning too.

I find that's the most revealing.

Like their whole thesis is, we're worried about the earth is getting too warm, so let's ban air conditioning.

That's the philosophy.

And you see, it shows the anti-humanism because what it shows is even by their own view of the problem, they're against any solution that protects us.

They're just against anything.

And even if you ask, like, they're against the idea of capturing CO2 from fossil fuels, usually, which I don't think you can do that efficiently on a global scale, but it's revealing.

And they're also against what they call geoengineering, which is at some point.

cooling the earth.

Like I believe if we if we actually faced a warming crisis, which we don't, but you should explore.

Are there any macro things you can do?

You know, volcanoes cool the earth.

But they're like, no, that's that's the thing.

They want us to always withdraw our impact.

They don't want us to cause any problem and then solve the problem with more impact and technology.

They just want us to withdraw impact and technology.

So, is the air conditioning thing targeted towards really the United States more than anybody else?

Because you go over to Europe, you know, they don't use ice cubes, and generally speaking, they don't have central air.

We are big on air conditioning.

Well, you can think of it as it's targeting us, or you could think of it as it's targeting people improving their lives.

Both ways, it's really bad because you want air conditioning.

Because what they do is their whole focus is: let's eliminate human impact and particularly the impact, particularly eliminate CO2.

And so, what they do is they just categorize human activities, not by how good they are for human life.

Who cares about that, right?

We're focused on the climate.

They categorize them by how much impact do they have, and they say, hey, you know what, air conditioning uses a lot of energy.

So if we want to reach our goal, we've got to stop doing air conditioning.

When did they stop teaching trees breathe in

as we breathe out?

When I was a kid, I mean, we knew it's this great circle.

Trees breathe in what we exhale and create what we inhale.

Well, yeah.

So what that means is more CO2 generally means more plant growth.

Correct.

We still, so some of the CO2 CO2 gets absorbed by trees and some gets absorbed by the oceans and some, we still have more in the atmosphere than we used to.

But I look at all this from a humanistic perspective.

Just, hey, is the world today with more CO2 in the atmosphere, more plant life, and more, most importantly, more energy, is that a better world than the energy-starved world?

of 100 or 200 years ago.

And it's better in every respect, including climate.

I have yet to meet one green activist who would prefer to live in the supposedly perfect climate of 1850.

Right.

Right.

Because they would freeze to death or burn or hate to death because they didn't have any mastery over it.

Let's talk about the candidates.

Tonight is the

Republican debate.

We have four people, unfortunately, on stage and one that is not going to be there, Donald Trump.

When you look at, I'm sure you've talked to most, if not all, of the candidates, or at least their surrogates.

Who has the best understanding of this?

And who do you think is the most serious about stopping this kind of nonsense?

So, for once, I'm a little hesitant to say stuff because I advise kind of a lot of different offices and campaigns and that kind of thing.

So, I'm trying to get everyone to use what I'm advocating.

But I'll talk about what people have said publicly.

So, I think all of them, Christie's actually the one I know least in terms of his views, but he seems decent on it.

The ones who've been the most of the people tonight, the ones who've been most outspoken and using the kind of line I think.

So Haley, I don't disagree with much of what she said, but I just haven't heard her say much about it.

DeSantis and Vivek.

So Vivek has definitely been the most outspoken about this issue of climate death.

He's really popularized this statistic of 98% decline, and he has a really good understanding of it.

I mean, he's publicly, this is not me giving away anything.

He's publicly said, like, he's read Fossil Future.

He's been very influenced by it.

You know, he's an intellectual guy.

I think he really gets it.

And it's been exciting to see him on networks that would never have me, like NBC, making these points.

So that's been a great thing.

He's also, I think, is in favor of energy freedom, you know, dramatically reducing the administrative state.

DeSantis has been really good as well in his opening energy speech in Midland.

Like he specifically mentioned 98% decline in climate disaster deaths.

You know, in his debate with Newsom, he talked about the evil of government-dictated green energy, which is a term that I use and I encourage others to use.

He's for energy freedom.

So

I think those two are both doing well.

I think in general, the Republicans, and I take some credit for this,

are better on energy than they used to be.

If you look at like the 2012 debates, 2016 debates, even the platforms have gotten way, way better.

I mean, almost, it's almost hard to criticize any of them vehemently, whereas that was very easy

years ago.

When did you become an unwashed heathen to the mainstream media?

What does that mean?

Well, you were, I mean, you were a big deal to the left

because you believe in, you know, climate change, et cetera, et cetera, but you don't believe in the solutions.

And if I remember right,

you were beloved.

No, no, no, no.

You remember wrong.

I was never beloved.

Not by the mainstream media.

I mean,

I grew up in sort of like a left-wing kind of environment as a kid.

I grew up in Chevy Chase, Maryland, but I wasn't in the media back then or anything.

No, no, no.

So, I mean, now I'm, I'm, now I'm definitely at the peak of my prominence and, and it still has, I get, look, I get a lot of exposure, but I've never been interviewed by CNN.

I've never been interviewed by MSNBC.

And I am the most willing guy in the world to debate anyone.

So it's certainly not my issue.

I haven't been on NPR.

I guess I've been on the BBC before.

But like, hey, if anyone is watching from there, I'm more than happy to be on there.

But in the meantime,

at least other people, it's it's great when presidential candidates and politicians are making these points because

those networks can't avoid them.

So that was exciting about seeing Vivek is like, oh, he's making these points and they have to have him on.

Is this turning with the

next generation?

Are you seeing real growth of,

I don't know, intelligence?

It's hard to make macro statements.

I mean, I'm seeing in my world a significant proliferation of young people who are saying this.

So in terms of the influencer side, and a lot of my focus is on, this is why I have energy talking points.com and basically giving everyone the building blocks.

I mean, Stu is a great example.

Like, Stu's become really articulate on these things and really knowledgeable.

That's quite an accomplishment by you to make me articulate on anything.

I didn't say that, but I'd like to emphasize it.

So it's, it's, it's like, I like, I really like seeing other people learn the way of thinking, learn the facts, put them together.

And then we're seeing young people.

I was just in Africa a couple months ago, and there's a young Kenyan guy I've come to befriend and kind of mentor called Jasper Machogu.

He has a really good Twitter.

If you check him out on Twitter, by the way, I don't agree with all of his views on foreign policy.

So let's just,

but he's really, really good on energy.

We did a video that I'll post soon.

But anyway, he's become a really successful activist for African energy freedom.

And he really gets it.

And he can frame the stuff a lot the way that I do.

And he knows the facts.

And so I just want to, I want, and the other thing is people are starting to see you you can actually make a career out of it.

When I got into this, believe me, I had no idea that being pro-fossil fuels, there was ever any notoriety in it, even though in retrospect, it makes sense.

Like, oh, you could have planned it.

I didn't plan it at all.

I just happened to be it.

And then people were interested.

But now I'm glad if people follow and say, you know what?

You can actually get some positive attention.

You can actually get speaking engagements.

You can actually sell books.

That's great.

So I want as many, I mean, I want to be obsolete.

It's part of why I've showed you guys in the background.

Like, I'm making an AI that we'll bring out in a few weeks.

Like, I want to be obsoleted by the other people and by my own AI.

That's great.

It's a good goal.

It's hard, unfortunately.

Yeah, no, it is.

But, you know, there's lots of people that would like you obsolete on the other side.

I'm not going that way.

You're not going that way.

Yeah, I know.

Thank you so much for being with us again.

Fossil fuels, Fossil Future is the name of the book.

It's Alex Epstein, and it's always good to have you on.

Thank you so much.

Thanks so much, guys.

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We're, we're glad you're here.

The big debates tonight.

Woo!

RNC sanctioned GOP debate.

Yeah.

When it's sanctioned by the RNC, you know it's got to be good.

Discussions and talking points don't matter outside of that framework.

Only what the RNC approves.

I'm interested in Megan Kelly moderating today.

It's going to be a good debate.

It's a good group.

Yeah.

And the Free Beacon is is also the editor-in-chief is going to be Iliana Johnson.

She's there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Would you like to just

well, I just thought you were looking at her name and didn't know how to pronounce it, which is usually.

Elena Johnson.

Okay.

Well, it's Iliana Johnson.

So thank you.

That was proven right in real time.

I love how that happens on the show.

Shut up.

No.

Yeah, no, it's a good group.

And, you know, Megan is kind of the headliner, I guess, of the moderation crew.

There's one other person, isn't there, Glenn?

Is there one other one?

I can't remember.

But I think there's three total moderators.

But I'm going to be on with Megan Kelly today on her show.

She's talking about this.

Marvelous.

She is awesome.

And I'm excited.

Because I feel like these other debates, there's a lot of problems with them.

Yeah, I'm mainly being the guy in first place isn't in them.

Yeah.

But, you know, having someone who's going to actually ask questions I care about would be nice.

I'm disappointed that Chris Christie is going to be in.

I mean,

I'd like to get it down to the two or three.

He just made it.

He just made it.

And I mean, look, no votes have been cast yet.

You know, Rick Santorum was at what 4% at this point

in Iowa back in the day, and he wound up winning Iowa.

I mean, Huckabee was probably not at the top by now either, and he wound up doing well.

I mean, I think there's a

we get to this rush where we want to get everybody out of it.

I don't want, like, I don't, there's no path for Chris Christie to win the nomination.

So that's just frustrating, you know.

But I mean, you can make the point on

Christie or even Ramaswamy at some level.

I don't know what the path is for those two guys, but you know, there's been no votes cast yet.

Like, if they want to, you know, at some point, it becomes ridiculous to stay in the race, but I mean, can you, can these guys at least have a couple votes cast before they have to drop out?

I don't know.

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That would be great.

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Well, hello, America.

They have just named the time

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Who could it be?

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Nah, not so much.

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Stu, who would you choose?

Who would you choose?

Think of the entire year, all of the things that have happened.

Who?

Who would be the person of the year?

Wow.

Well, they usually name some horrible dictator.

You know what?

The Hamas freedom fighter.

Yes, person of the year.

Yes, yes.

There you go.

No, not.

No.

No.

Not the Israeli story, a soldier.

I think that the Hamas would have had a better chance of winning it.

Oh, yeah.

That's not who it was.

Come on, come on, come on.

Person of the year.

I mean, Zelensky.

Let me give you.

No, he's already.

No.

How about Zelensky and Putin arm in arm on the cover?

Let me give you a hint.

With yet another

dramatic reading.

Our secret moments in your crowded room.

They got no idea about me and you.

There's an indentation in the shape of you.

Made your mark on me.

Golden tattoo.

You know yet?

No, I've never.

All this silence and patience pining in anticipation.

My hands are shaking from holding back from you.

All of this silence and the silence and patience, pining and desperately waiting.

My hands are shaking from all of this.

Ah, ah, ah, ah.

Sounds like a personal issue.

Say my name, and everything just stops.

I don't like you like a best friend.

Only bought this dress so you could take it off.

Take it off.

I appreciate you not reading any more of this.

Whenever it is.

It is.

Yes.

Come on.

Come on.

Who is it?

Who is is it?

It sounds wonderful, and I'm really interested to know.

It's the bicycle guy that just, I'm sorry, the bicycle woman that just won.

The bicycle woman.

Yeah, you know, the one that just won the bicycle race, you know.

The guy who.

Oh.

That just won.

Wait, the transgender guy who won the bicycle.

Yeah, the women's bicycle race.

I don't know who that person's name is.

I only bought this dress so you could take it off.

You don't think that Time magazine would

do the transgender movement?

The male athletes, trans women in sports is the person of the year.

No.

Did they write a single?

No, they did not.

Very mediocre single.

It is, of course,

Taylor Swift.

Tay Tay.

Taytay.

Congratulations.

Yeah.

Person of the year.

No, I don't think that's shallow.

I mean, she's a big entertainer.

She is a big entertainer.

She is a big entertainer.

Lots of impact on my football watching every weekend.

Get to see.

I just wanted to bring it up because I know

how much she means to you.

She does.

I get to hear the pitch of, hey, did you know a player on your favorite team is related to the person who's dating this woman that you don't care about?

Let me talk about it for 48 straight minutes.

I love that in every NFL.

I know you do.

But no,

Taylor Swift, I mean, look, you can, she had a heck of a year.

Oh, she did.

It really was an amazing year.

She did.

If you're going to give it to an entertainer, she's.

She's the entertainer to do.

Yes.

I mean, there were

Jimmy Fallon.

Yeah, of course.

I mean, put that in there.

He's, oof.

What a year he had.

Trevor Noah.

What'd you put it?

Trevor Noah.

Another one.

There's another one.

No, but I mean, like, if you're going to give it to an entertainer, I

feel like there was a lot going on this year, though.

No, what?

Maybe.

What was happening?

There were multiple wars

that broke out.

Really?

Yeah, you kind of had that.

You had a lot of stuff going on that was of large impact.

But maybe.

The whistleblowers?

They would have been good.

Which ones?

Well, the Hunter Biden one.

Any of them.

The ones that pointed out that we were just targeting Catholics for no reason and calling them terrorists.

Which ones would you

like?

I find that.

None of them, by the way, that you're going to mention would go to this, unless it's a whistleblower on like Donald Trump.

Then you have a chance.

Right, right, sure.

But

how about the Ivy League

presidents of Harvard MIT?

I mean, they're women, and they were fantastic yesterday.

Fantastic on anti-Semitism.

They've been very strong on that.

Yeah, they have been.

They're very strong to...

They're very anti-Semitic.

They're very good on that.

I mean, you could put Rashida Tlaib.

She's been the

queen of the anti-Semites.

Well, I think it's pretty hard to...

Let me play a little bit of the testimony on Capitol Hill from

the presidents of Harvard, MIT, and Penn.

They were asked about, you know, the calls for genocide of all the Jews on their campus.

Listen to this.

At MIT, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate MIT's code of conduct or rules regarding bullying and harassment?

Yes or no?

If targeted at individuals not making public statements.

Yes or no?

Calling for the genocide of Jews does not constitute bullying and harassment?

I have not heard calling for the genocide for Jews on our campus.

But you've heard chants for Intifada?

I've heard chants, which can be anti-Semitic depending on the context, and calling for the elimination of the Jewish people.

Okay.

Stop, stop.

I just have to

say.

I have heard

chants on campus that could, in the right context, be anti-Semitic,

calling for the genocide of the Jewish people.

Well, sometimes when you call for the genocide of Jewish people, you're not being anti-Semitic at all.

Right.

Right.

Like you're looking for more living space.

Yes.

You know, living space.

That was a big

other catchphrase you might remember from history.

A little more living space.

Right.

I mean, not for them.

But not for them.

For us.

We need to spread out, spread our wings a little bit.

Not enough room for the German people.

a little more living space.

Okay.

So she's heard chance that could,

in theory,

we're not going to say that they will.

They could be anti-Semitic in the right context.

You know,

I don't know what context it would be anti-Semitic to say we should have a genocide of all the Jews.

There's probably one, though.

Yeah, there is.

Somewhere out there.

Somewhere really searched.

Okay, let's continue.

Incredible.

So those would not be according to the MIT's code of conduct or rules.

That would be investigated as harassment, if pervasive and severe.

Ms.

McGill.

Stop, stop, stop, stop.

If pervasive and severe.

Now,

I think anybody standing at a rally chanting death or genocide to all the Jews.

I don't know.

I think that's pretty severe.

I would say it is pretty severe.

And it seems like if it doesn't violate your code of conduct, perhaps your code of conduct needs to be adjusted.

Right.

Did you go to Harvard, though?

I did not.

I didn't either.

And so, you know, you only went to Yes.

Yeah.

I don't know what I've

done.

I don't either.

I don't either.

And I don't understand, you know, the intellect of Harvard.

Let's go to MIT where they're even smarter.

Ms.

McGill, at Penn, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's rules or code of conduct?

Yes or no?

If the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment.

Okay, stop.

Okay, stop.

So interesting.

Interesting.

So if they're chanting death to all the Jews,

but they rapidly

kill Jews.

Then

it's harassment.

Once they've wiped out all the Jews, we're going to act.

Right.

Okay.

Hey, they can build showers.

they can build gas.

Obviously, yes.

But the minute they start to use them.

Well,

and technically, the speech is calling for genocide, so they probably have to wipe them all out before we act.

But at some point, that's when our code of conduct will kick in.

You know, when there's no Jews left, we'll be like, you know what?

Hey, guys, stop.

And I bet they will at that point.

Yeah, okay, here we go.

Well, there won't be any left.

Right, that's why.

Specifically calling for the genocide of Jews.

Does that constitute bullying or harassment?

If it is directed and severe or pervasive, it is harassment.

So the answer is yes.

It is a context-dependent decision, Congress.

It is a context-dependent decision.

That's your testimony today.

Calling for the genocide of Jews is depending upon the context.

That is not bullying or harassment.

This is the easiest question to answer.

Yes, Ms.

McNeil.

So is your testimony that you will not answer yes?

If it

is if the Yes or no?

If the speech becomes conduct, it can be harassment.

Yes.

Conduct meaning committing the act of genocide?

Speech is not harassment.

This is unacceptable, Ms.

McGill.

I'm going to give you one more opportunity for the world to see your answer.

Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's code of conduct when it comes to bullying and harassment?

Yes or no?

It can be harassment.

The answer is yes.

And Dr.

Gay, at Harvard, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment?

Yes or no?

It can be, depending on the context.

What's the context?

Targeted as an individual.

Targeted as at an individual.

It's targeted at Jewish students, Jewish individuals.

Do you understand your testimony is dehumanizing them?

Do you understand that dehumanization is part of anti-Semitism?

I will ask you one more time.

Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment?

Yes or no?

Anti-Semitic rhetoric.

And is it anti-Semitic rhetoric?

Anti-Semitic rhetoric when it crosses into conduct that amounts to bullying.

I can't believe this.

I can't believe this.

If you have a micro-aggression,

which is not saying we should kill all of you, okay?

A micro aggression, they need a safe space.

Everybody needs to go cry and be protected.

If you use the wrong pronoun,

they put these things into these categories.

And calling for the genocide of Jews, well, you know what, if it's targeted towards an individual.

Well, technically, if you're calling for the genocide of the whole race, it's not targeted at an individual.

It's all individuals, every single one of them.

So, I guess maybe that's their out.

Um, I also will say, you know, that's one of the best

grilling.

Oh, I mean, that isn't, she did a really good job with it.

Really good job.

Now, I will say it should have been easy for them to say you can look at the what you don't maybe get on radio is the faces of these women as they are trying to answer these questions, they're so smug and so like, oh, this, she's, I see what you're trying to do here, and I'm not going to fall for it.

Um, well, it depends on the context.

Hang on, what are you trying to do there?

Yeah, you're trying

to make them

to make them say the Palestinian protester kids are bad.

And it's like, well, yeah, when they're constantly inside the Jews, yeah, they are.

You should be able to say that with real confidence.

Yes.

Should be really easy.

Even more confidence than the pronoun mistake that you're going to throw 10 kids

out of your school for next week.

Here's a Jewish student that is suing UPenn describing anti-Semitism.

from the pen I once used to know.

Penn, once renowned for groundbreaking discoveries like the mRNA vaccine, is now a chilling landscape of hatred and hostility.

Our university, revered for its pursuit of knowledge, has devolved into an arena where Jewish students tiptoe through their days, uncertain and unsafe.

Not only are tensions palpable, but there have also been materialized actions taken to intimidate and harm students.

A bomb threat against Hillel, a swastika spray-painted, the Hillel and Chabad house is vandalized.

A professor posting the armed wing of Hamas's logo on Facebook.

A A Jewish student accosted, Jews are Nazis, etched adjacent to Penn's Jewish fraternity house.

Why doesn't the university hold the perpetrators of such acts accountable?

Is the university fearful that they may offend those who wish to intimidate and harass their fellow students?

Penn's ambivalence fuels a crisis that has shattered my academic sanctuary.

Policies meant to safeguard us have become hollow promises.

And let us be clear: if they fail Jewish students today, tomorrow they will fail the rest of us.

It was powerful.

Yesterday was a very powerful day.

And not just for

outing of anti-Semites, but also those who were called transphobic.

There was another hearing on Capitol Hill yesterday where

I saw again one of the greatest responses I have seen from a congressperson.

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Okay, so there was another House hearing,

and Riley Gaines was there.

And Summer Lee, the representative,

said

that we are just going to hear nothing but transphobic language.

We're going to have to sit here and listen to these transphobes.

And Riley Gaines had a problem with that.

Listen.

To me, that although the title of this hearing implies a much-needed discussion, we're likely going to be forced to listen to transphobic bigotry.

Unsafe, unfair, and discriminatory practices towards women must stop.

Inclusion cannot be prioritized over safety and fairness.

And, Ranking Member Lee, if my testimony makes me transphobic, then I believe your opening monologue makes you a misogynist.

Thank you.

I have, as the saying goes.

Madam Chair, excuse me, I move to have the gentlewoman's words taken down.

Madam Chair, she's she's engaging in personalities.

Engaging in personalities.

What is that?

Can I just ask how it's fair to be called transphobic?

There's a

thing.

I would say men disguising themselves as women are engaging in personalities.

Hang on, hang on, hang on.

I mean, this is...

I just moved to withdraw the point of order.

This is insane.

This is insane what's going on.

And finally, somebody snapped.

It is Lisa McClain.

I don't know if she's related to the McLean that, you know, is in that Christmas film, that documentary about the bombing in Los Angeles.

But

here's Lisa McClain in response.

Listen to this.

What?

Have we lost our minds?

I sat here and listened to every label imaginable.

I am here to protect women, girls.

My God, why do I have to apologize for that?

We spent decades trying to protect women.

And you know what?

We won.

We won.

So I will not apologize now or ever for trying to protect my daughters and women in sports.

And that's what this hearing was about.

Protecting women.

So you know what?

I am a woman, and let me tell you, hear me roar, because I will not stop protecting women you want to know why because we have rights too

women have rights too

and our daughters have rights too let me be explicitly clear on that and I will never stop protecting our daughters I will never stop protecting women That is my job as a mother, and it is the right thing to do.

I love her.

I love her.

Then she pushed a computer on her chair down the elevator shaft.

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So I'm sorry, I'm very distracted right now because Buddy Delf bought it, brought in some

chocolates.

And I can't open them.

I can't.

They're in this.

Do you have to be old, buddy, to know how to open these things?

Is that what it is?

Because they're fancy chocolates.

They've got the gold wrapper on them.

So, yes.

No, she can't.

There, there.

Now it's open.

Wow, this is.

I mean, there's only so much time to open a box of candy.

If they make it impossible to open, you just pound it open.

There are shards of sharp plastic all over the studio now.

But as you originally met off, you saw clearly

a

sticker type of thing that was wrapped around the outside.

That was obviously how you open that package.

You don't slam it against the desk like an insane person.

I'm not.

I wasn't insane.

That is a regular way that when you when you wrap chocolate like you like it's a like an old CD,

that's how you open it.

Would you like some chocolate?

I'm okay.

I'm afraid I'd be eating plastic shards

if I were to ingest any of this.

That was now how many times is that how many times have you done that?

That seemed like it was not the first time you had smashed

a package of chocolates against the table to open it.

I mean, you really wanted some chocolate there.

That was

more, no,

less about the chocolate, more about the packaging.

You don't get to the point where you're opening something and it's been so sealed that there's no way any human could ever open it.

Oh, I've definitely gotten to that point before.

I can't, I can't take it.

Not on national radio.

Right.

It's never happened to me on national radio.

Oh, well, I'm not ashamed of who I am.

Maybe you should be.

You know,

I feel like that's a lesson we've learned lately.

A lot of people are like, I just need to tell the world who I am.

Maybe you shouldn't.

Me.

You know, Glenn, maybe the way you just acted should be closeted.

You know, I was saying.

You're sitting over there with a bottle of whiskey and you're telling me to behave myself.

You see what I just did to the chocolates?

You know how much I want that whiskey right now?

I will say, because I've got some Fox and Odin whiskey right here.

And

it's such a beautiful bottle.

I didn't want to open it.

It's not that beautiful.

Let's open it.

Glenn Key.

I mean, Glenn is looking at me in a way that is disturbing.

I feel like a protective parent and you're like Jared from Subway.

Like, that's what I feel like.

This bottle.

What is it?

It's like 12-year-old whiskey.

It's a very wrong conversation.

I will say, I like taunting you over alcohol because I think it's really funny.

And that means me out of the middle of the day.

I'm just gonna go ahead and

smell it.

I love the smell of it.

That's what's making me, making me freak out.

You really want.

I'm putting this away.

No, no, just leave it up here.

I'm not going to leave it up here for you.

I'm going to smash that thing open.

Look, at the very end of your career, do I want this to end in some sort of alcoholic binge that gets us all sorts of ratings?

Of course.

I just want to drink it.

I just want to smell it.

Oh, and then it's just one sip.

It's just touching my lips.

That's not a problem.

Hang on just a second.

This is what happened.

Hang on just a second.

You know.

You okay,

knowing that whiskey is my way.

You okay'd a whiskey sponsor

on this program.

It's good whiskey.

And now, and

come on, let's be serious.

Why did you take that whiskey sponsor sponsorship?

I mean, yes, it's good whiskey, but.

It's Fox and Oda.

It's great.

No, no, no.

And I did know it would torture you.

Yes, okay.

That's part of now.

That's a small part of it.

Right.

So now it's sitting here.

And now you're like, oh my gosh, I can't torture you.

I mean, I just, I, I, you see what I did to the box of candy?

Yes.

Open that bottle of whiskey.

No.

Those are glass shards.

If you break the bottle of whiskey, Glenn.

I'm very nervous.

Again, I don't want to drink it.

I just want to smell it.

I love the smell of whiskey.

You also love the taste of whiskey, and that became a major problem for your life.

I really, that wasn't the problem.

It was I love the effects of whiskey.

Yeah, which you remember?

Well,

yes,

that's the problem.

It's amazing to

okay, but let me ask you something: which is a bigger problem:

alcoholism,

alcoholism,

or being somebody that's excited about this story and you're an adult.

McDonald's is bringing its adult happy meals back into circulation,

even containing six individual toy options.

The chief of marketing and customer experience officer references the success of last year's Cactus Plant Flea Market box and notes that it was something that would be revisited because fans told us they wanted to celebrate that quintessential childhood experience again.

So

they're giving you the little happy meal where the golden arches are the handle with the little toy in it that none of us had for more than five minutes because it was crap.

And

which adult, I want to talk to the adults that are like, you know what?

I am really happy I can

relive that experience and see what McDonald's has left for me as a toy, as an adult who gets a toy.

I don't know.

I think I'd rather be an alcoholic.

It's an interesting point.

Now, the worst part about the happy meal for adults is they have full-sized meals for adults that you could just have that are bigger and more of the stuff that you like, unless you're going for some weird, you know, I'm going back into a cocoon of childhood.

And, you know,

with what Disney has done, when I heard adult toys in a happy meal box, I...

You could picture some psychopath out in the McDonald's parking lot smashing open a plastic box with their adult toy inside.

Daddy, why is your box vibrating?

Shut up.

I'm going to smash it on the bumper in the parking lot.

Do you think, though, this is a thing that

has made a real comeback?

I feel like there was a time, maybe I'm just misremembering this, but I feel like there was a time where it would be embarrassing to

want to jump back into all the childhood behaviors of your past.

Yeah, this is a great thing.

I think our grandparents would have slapped us across the face.

Right.

That's kind of how I picture it.

That's kind of how I would picture it, right?

Yeah, sure.

But like, it seems like now, I mean,

I don't know.

is this offensive to some i don't know maybe but like the dis the real the real passion for disney world and disneyland from adults is interesting to me i i like i'm not it's a great place i'm not no i get it and i know like right now first of all it's a spawn of satan now so you can't go anywhere i've noticed that yes all right but like i do know a lot of people even conservatives because who still go back there like as adults you know A lot.

Okay.

Most of them are.

That is because

that brings back innocence.

It brings back.

A happy meal brings back innocence.

It brings back crap

that you had.

Don't forget McDonald's.

McDonald has done a lot for this country.

Has he?

How big of a house does that fat clown need?

It's a big thing.

He's always raising money.

Hey, finish my house.

Finish my house.

Enough.

Okay.

You gave that box that happy meal because it kept your kids quiet so you didn't drink during the day.

That's why you.

I don't know that your experience is exactly the same as everyone else's experience.

Mr.

Please open that whiskey bottle so I can smell it.

I just, I'm just saying.

But I, do you find that is it something where the world has become

dark that they're looking for a I, no,

no, nobody's growing up.

When I was 18 years old, maybe 17, 17, I remember coming back home from school and

I had a bowl of cereal and I'm sitting on my couch and I'm just watching TV and there's nothing on.

It's like, you know, soap opera time of the day.

Sure.

There's nothing on.

So I, you know, keep flipping around and the best thing that was on, believe it or not, was Mr.

Rogers.

Okay.

Now, my dad happened to come home early that day.

And I'll never forget, he came up the stairs.

You know, we had those split-levels houses, and he came up the stairs, and he came around.

He's like, hey, and he saw me eating cereal on the couch watching TV, which he was disgusted by already.

He was like, do something with your life.

Do something with your life.

Okay.

So he came.

And then I'll never forget, he walked past the TV.

And then he turned around to see it because

Mr.

Rogers had the little puppets with the king and the kingdom.

He looked at it.

He looked at me.

He looked back at the TV.

He watched it for about 40 seconds.

Then he looked back at me and said, What the hell is wrong with you?

I think

that should be said to every adult who's excited about the happy meal.

You need a parent or a grandparent that is in your life that will just say to you, what the hell is wrong with you?

Okay, I mean, I could see that.

I could see that there is a, I feel like that was the approach back in the day, but like I, we were, I was talking about no, that's the approach it should be today.

Today, I'm very excited.

What are you going to say?

I'm very excited to celebrate this, this, this quintessential childhood memory.

Out of all the memories we have as a family, you pick the crappy

two.

See, this is this is the toy.

There's some anti-McDonald's thing going on with you, and I don't like it.

I love McDonald's.

I love McDonald's.

No, do you?

What?

No.

You are.

No, I.

No, I mean, but I do feel like there's this anti.

You've been bashing them a lot lately.

I don't like it.

I don't like it.

I get defensively.

You know why?

Because they reduced the size of the filet of fish.

Oh, okay.

Now that makes sense.

This all tracks now.

Yeah, okay.

I mean, it's like they're becoming like Duncan minis.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Where I got to eat two of them to equal one.

Right.

And I'm pissed because, yes, I am fat, but I feel fatter if I have to order two of them.

Then you're just like, then you're just like, oh my gosh.

You know, you order minis by the box.

Okay.

Okay.

You don't say, I need 36 doughnut holes.

You say, I want a box of minis, please.

The world needs your knowledge and wisdom on these topics.

Thank you.

It really does.

It really does.

Are you familiar with the term dink?

Are you familiar with the term dink?

Like, but I know.

I'm relating it to you right now.

Okay.

All right.

That's fine.

Yeah.

It means dual income, no kids.

Uh-huh.

Like, so we had a video we were showing yesterday and we watched it on News and Why It Matters as well,

these two people talking about what it means because they're dinks and they're bragging about it.

And one of the fat guy who's one of the there's a very small woman and a very large man in the video.

I don't know how.

Oh, we have the video?

Okay.

Yeah, here it lists.

We're dinks.

We're going to get asked daily when we plan on having kids.

We're dinks.

Of course, we're going to go out to eat every night after work.

We're dinks.

We don't have to ask our family for financial help or to watch our kid when we want to go out.

We're dinks.

We're going to go to Costco and buy all the snacks in bulk that we want.

Okay, okay.

We're dinks.

Stop, stop, stop.

Okay, let me tell you why.

They're dinks.

Okay.

She's beautiful.

He's a fat Gila monster.

There's no way she's going to have sex with him.

Right.

So he said, so there's no children in their future.

That's why they're dinks.

That's why they're dinks.

She's happy with his income.

I am so.

Do not leave all your clothes on.

Like, she's, she's.

Turn the lights on, leave all the clothes on.

I had not thought about that.

Yeah.

She has brilliantly convinced him there's some new ideology between a dual income, no kids.

When they first got married, he was probably, you know, okay.

You know, he was probably and then he just let himself go right and she's like i can't have sex with him what if we create a whole new thing oh actually i'm just morally we're dinks yeah we love being dinks it's right way better way to live let's swear eat yeah

i love that but i i have a huge problem uh-huh with with these points largely because the big fat guy doesn't understand that children largely, I mean, the biggest part of the role of children is to get you access to more snacks.

It's the best snack highway you're ever going to find.

Do you know how many kinds of mac and cheese I've had over the past 10 years?

It's incredible.

World needs your knowledge.

I think.

See?

This guy is not only fat, he's stupid.

Thank you.

He's stupid.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

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By the way, can I ask you a question?

Is Fetterman getting better?

I can't explain anything that's happening with John Fetterman.

He's making good points.

He's making good points.

He's taking stands

important.

Right.

I don't.

Is he gone brain dead or is he getting better?

Are you saying is he getting better physically?

Are you saying like

because he's actually speaking?

It is a little bit better than it was.

Now, of course, I would still argue he he should not be a senator,

but he is a little bit better than he was.

There was an interview in The View he did the other day, and he still stumbles and has problems, but he was better than he was six months ago.

That's good, good for him, man.

Did you hear what he said about Menendez?

Yeah.

Yeah, he's all over him.

Did you see he did a George Santos cameo for

Menendez?

He actually paid for George Santos to record a video to encourage Bob Menendez to push on.

My God.

He's definitely a troll.

You know,

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He does the troll.

He does look like a troll.

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Well, hello, Stu.

Glenn, how are you?

Feeling a little bit better after your very smashed chocolate box?

It wasn't worth

smashing either.

It's too fancy.

Too fancy.

Too fancy.

Yeah, I thought the coconut one was pretty good.

Yeah, it was pretty good.

Pretty good.

Not to say that I stole any of them from you.

No.

Well, Well, you know, you didn't have them.

I gladly trade you a box of chocolates for you opening that bottle of whiskey just to let me smell it.

Do you see what's happening, America?

This man

who has been sober for how long?

I don't know.

I don't count.

You don't count?

No.

This is a problem.

He wants me to open up this bottle.

Stop counting this morning with that bottle sitting here all by myself with that bottle sitting on the studio.

We need a safe in the studio for the bottle of Coxin Odin, please.

I just would like it.

I just, I love the smell of it.

That's all I

of course.

It's just a little bit times.

It's horse.

It's like that.

You know, your husband's cheated on you a few times, but he just loves the smell of women's perfume.

That's why he's by the neck.

That's all.

That's all that is.

That's all it is.

Joe Biden just loved the smell of a dumbbell.

This is actually worrying you, is it?

This is seriously,

you're a little bit nervous, aren't you?

A little bit.

Why?

It's been a desperate time.

Lots of stuff's going on in the world.

Crazy stuff.

You know, we're all at the end of our ropes.

My, my son, I got a videotape

of, or, you know,

an Instagram post from my wife last night

of my son

being called on by Tony Robbins and leading part of

this.

this thing yesterday.

My son is, you know, up on the stage and he's like,

right now, I'll tell you right now, this is what has to happen.

And he's like,

I don't know what's happening to my son.

Tony Robbins is like a magician.

And it's happened in a very short period of time, too, right?

I mean, I'm anxious to see how long this lasts.

But

my wife and my, I'm getting things from my wife and my son.

Like,

I don't know who they are.

They're going to come back and I'm going to feel like a slug.

I'll be like, they're going to be like, you know what?

You don't work.

You don't work very hard.

You need to, you you need to, what are you doing with your life?

Do something with your life.

And I'm like, I've already done something with my life.

I'm ready to skate.

That's kind of, yeah, that's the plan of most adult men.

You get to a certain point and you just get to kind of skate towards the end of it.

Right.

Right.

Right.

I mean, you've done enough.

You're skating towards the cliff or to the thin ice.

You know,

it ends in your death, but you're skating.

Right.

You know, you worked hard lacing up those shoes.

You worked.

You've done your work.

It's not time for you to change your life.

That's the only thing.

You get those people who are like super high achievers and they get around you and it's like, yeah, sure, what you're saying is true, but go away.

So my wife is not a big spender.

Okay.

You know that.

That's, I would say, very true.

Very true.

She has very

you're the spender in the family.

Yes.

I can spend money like nobody, but she does not.

No.

Okay.

She is cheap on, not cheap.

She is frugal on everything.

Much better choice of words.

She she wrote to me last night

whatever tony robbins charges for uh

being a mentor for careers it's worth it

and i'm like no don't think it is i mean don't think it uh tony's a high-value individual he's a high-value individual that would be probably in the seven figures no honey

don't think so.

I don't know what's happened to her.

I don't know what's happened to her.

That's interesting because you kind of looked at this as something that might help your son, you know,

and my and my wife.

She never really kind of recovered from her brother's suicide.

They were very, very close.

And she never really,

she's, she's just not the same.

And my, and honestly, my career.

I have felt really, really.

She's affected by your career negatively too?

Don't even start.

Don't even start.

Don't even start.

No, you know, she's because it's hard.

It's harder on her and the family than I think it is on me

because, you know, she's just,

she's lost a lot of faith in people.

You know, we don't, she doesn't.

Sure.

She never lets people over to the house.

She never, she just doesn't do that.

She doesn't trust people anymore.

It's really, it's, it's been horrible.

I've, I've hated watching her change in that way

because she's just been so protective of me and the family and everything else.

And so her going out,

I have no idea what's coming back home.

I have no idea.

This is fascinating.

Yeah.

And you're going to be going into the holidays.

You're going to be around them a lot.

You're going to really feel the impact.

My son was like, after like four days with Tony Robbins, I don't know, about a month ago, we were up at the ranch and I just want to, look, I've been working.

Okay.

I've been working.

I don't want to do anything.

Right.

And my son's like, Dad,

where's the saw?

Can you help me move some lumber?

And I'm like, what?

No.

No, I'm not going to help you move lumber.

And he's like, I want to get this done.

Let's get this done.

Put the trees in the place that they are for a reason.

No, all tubes stacked.

Yeah, right there.

Right there.

God put them there.

I am not the man to move them.

No.

And I'm like, I don't know.

What?

What?

And I'm going to have to have a talk with Tony Robbins if my son comes back and my wife comes back and they demand me to,

they're starting putting unreasonable demands like, dad, you should move once in a while.

I'm pissed.

Yeah.

Is it possible to kind of pay Tony Robbins more to make your kids and family members less productive?

Like, can you be like, hey, no, I want them to be more productive.

I just don't want them to demand that I date.

I've already had my productive period.

It's your turn.

Right.

You know, that's why I have kids.

You have kids.

So, you know,

once you've raised these things,

it's like raising animals.

You've worked

three and four hours a day for

30, 40 years.

50 years.

50 years.

It's too much for human beings.

It is too much.

And I got to tell you, the reason why you have kids is so they do stuff

and then you live off them towards the end of your life.

Okay, yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah, I thought it was more access to macaroni and cheese, but well, it's that too early on.

It's that's early on, the reward of the only thing that gets you through it is all the candy, you know what I mean.

When you're raising them in their like you know, poopy diapers and stuff, you're like, hey, maybe the kid will want some candy, I'm gonna just buy some, keep it in the cover just in case, and then it just somehow or another, it just disappears.

Huh.

Wow, that's terrible news.

Yeah, So, do you think this is going to turn out?

Are you happy about this development?

Oh, I'm really thrilled, but I am a little nervous.

Right.

Because I have no idea what's walking through the door.

It could affect you in some way.

And that's not

what?

No, I signed up to affect them.

Yeah.

Now, you went to this as well with Tony Robbins, and it seems this has an impact on you, too.

This is different.

My wife is like,

when we went the first time, she was like, oh, Tony Robbins, what does he do?

And, you know, I see.

She's a guy from Shallow Howe, right?

Yeah.

Banana hands and he makes you jump and yell and stuff.

And she's like, I don't know.

I'll go.

I'll go and I'll see what it's like.

She was last night.

She's become like a Tony.

She's like an Amway salesman for Tony Robbins.

Yeah, she was like, you know what?

Next month, he has a thing on business.

You should go.

And I'm like, no, I don't want to go.

I don't want to go next month.

I mean, because now you're pushing it on me.

Now it's, now it's Amway.

Now it's Amway.

Now it's like, I might need that glass cleaner, but I'm not buying it.

Right.

It's just principle.

Right.

No.

I will not improve my life.

I will not do it.

I'm taking a stand.

Yes.

My life will suck.

Here's some dramatic action for you, Tony Robbins.

I'm not doing it.

Not doing it.

That's that's a that's a brave stand to take, right?

It is.

That shows you have real moral character.

I'm telling you, I don't know.

I mean,

it's incredible.

It's incredible.

It really is.

I mean,

I know of Tony Robbins, obviously.

He's a pretty famous guy.

But I thought of him as

more of a business, like, that's where his,

is it more like personal improvement now, or is it just

variety?

It's, I mean, it's, you know, change your thinking, change your life.

Okay.

You know, and it affects everything.

It affects everything.

Yeah.

And he's, this one, I think he does once a year, and you go and it's like six days and it's like,

it's deep stuff.

It is the reason why I wanted my wife to go is because of the issues with her brother and he kind of goes into all of that stuff.

You know, whatever it is you're dealing with, you know, you

deal with it and get it out of your system.

So you can be,

you know, running on clean fuel every day.

So you'd say you'd recommend this highly unless you're talking about someone in your family who might be annoying about it.

Then don't let them improve their lives because it will ruin yours.

Yeah, as long as their improvement doesn't force you to improve your life.

Okay, that's you know, I'm very much into

improving my life.

But when they start talking about, hey, you know, there's real benefits to cold showers.

No, there's not.

I love hot showers.

I love hot showers.

There's nothing better.

And my wife is already like, you know, there is huge benefits to your body for taking cold showers in the morning and just cold shower and just do it.

What do you mean you can't control your...

I mean, are you in charge of your body or is your body in charge of you?

I don't know.

I don't think about it that much.

I just want to get up, have a warm shower, put my clothes on and go.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I have a friend who does that every morning.

He gets up and they have one of those like cold touches.

Plunge pools.

Yeah, the plunge pool where it's like, and he does it every day.

And, you know, he's a very successful guy and says, you know, he swears by this.

And to me, I didn't even want to put my finger in it to see what it felt like.

Like,

that's how unappealing it felt to me.

No, I don't want to cold.

No, I don't want to do that.

And Tony, and Tony sells it.

You know, he's like, you got to do it.

You got to do it.

You got to do it.

And you're like, really?

Really?

And he's like, yeah, there's not a day.

I've done it for years.

There's not a day I don't get up and not want to do it, but I do it.

And I'm like, you just talked me out of it.

Right.

There's not

one day in your 60 years of life that you didn't think, no, I'm going to enjoy this.

No, I'm not going to do that.

No.

I mean, didn't we come, we were just talking to Alex Epstein about fossil fuels and how they've improved civilization.

Like, isn't the point of civilization so you don't have to be cold?

Yes.

Right.

Like, if you don't want to be cold, you don't have to be cold.

The whole point of this is to make life better.

I'll take a cold shower if I can take an electric blanket in with me, but I don't think that's a good idea.

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So the Treasury Department launches a new strike force to crack down on illicit funds behind fentanyl trafficking.

Stu, this is a story in Blaze Media today.

Just

tell me just from the headline what you think this story is really all about.

Give me the headline one more time.

Okay.

Treasury Department launches new strike force to crack down on illicit funds behind fentanyl trafficking.

Okay.

Well, I mean, it seems like, you know, you got the stuff coming over the border.

Maybe it's from China.

They got a crack team making sure that they can stop.

Do you really think that's what that's about?

Well, no, it's probably something terrible, but I'm just saying that from the headline, it would say, okay.

But what I'm going to read it.

Tell me, stop when you realize what this really is.

Okay.

Biden administration Treasury Department announced Monday the launch of a new strike force dedicated to cracking down on illicit funds behind fentanyl trafficking.

Agency recently formed the Counterfentanol Strike Force to marshal the Treasury's

resources and expertise in a coordinated and streamlined operation to combat the trafficking of illicit fentanyl.

Any idea yet?

You will.

It noted that the strike force will be led by the Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence and IRS Criminal Investigation.

All right.

Okay.

You're starting to get it, right?

Okay.

In Monday's statement, Secretary of the Treasury Janice Yellen reaffirmed the Biden administration's commitment to stemming the flow of deadly fentanyl into communities across the United States.

She noted the new strike force will allow us to bring the department's unrivaled expertise in fighting financial crime.

Treasury will use every bit of every tool at its disposal to disrupt the ability of drug traffickers to peddle this poison in our country.

The strike force aims to crack down on money laundering networks.

Do you know what this is about yet?

I mean, it seems like a money grab by the federal government.

Here comes the key.

Sorry, I'm going to financial monitoring of every citizen.

Okay.

Financial strike force aims to crack down on money laundering networks, particularly

those using Bitcoin.

Yes.

Yes.

You want to stop fentanyl, you close down the border.

And you know what really would help,

Glenn?

Because obviously the way to stop fentanyl is to stop Bitcoin.

Yes, it is.

The only way to really stop, it's not just stopping Bitcoin.

You need a central bank digital currency that you can turn off for purchases of these bad things.

Exactly right.

You could stop people from doing all these naughty things.

Everything would go through the financial crimes division

of the IRS and the Treasury.

It's like a Department of Pre-Crime.

Something like, I don't know exactly the

thing like that.

You'd have to come up with Newspeak to be able to come up with

the right terms.

I like that though that will solve all of our problems you'll stop the problems before they start yes yes i like that i like that did you see this um this story uh from los angeles where they had this potential serial killer and how they caught him no so he was apparently executing i'm always i hate these stories because i'm always like good serial killer cop oh yeah way they did it really bad it's you know and it's happening this is all over the country but basically this guy had a car he went in they they found they saw him uh around one of these neighborhoods.

He went in and killed someone, like some poor dad in his garage on his way home to see his kids,

along with a bunch of homeless people.

Anyway, they got his license plate, and they just, every time anyone pulls into Beverly Hills, they scan all your license, every single license plate.

So

he just drove through Beverly Hills, and they're like, oh, there he is.

And just went and got him.

Because every single person who enters the city has their license plate scanned to see if they're of any problem at all.

And the people of Beverly Hills are like, we're really rich and we don't want people here that we don't like.

So we love this idea.

Sometimes just because they're driving a Prius,

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Thanks, ma'am.

I was

at Colony Ridge over the last few days, been doing some investigation on a documentary that we're doing and had to come home for the debate tonight.

But

Jason Buttrill

is down.

He's our head researcher and head writer for the Glenbeck program and kind of handed some of the stuff off yesterday.

He's got another interview tonight

and a ride-along

in Colony Ridge.

It is this massive, massive project where nobody speaks English uh, really,

um,

and none of the cops do either.

I think they have, they have 50 sheriffs' deputies for this enormous county, um, and there's eight people

for, I believe it's 79,000 people now.

The developers will say there's only 35,000 people there.

Um,

not true.

According to the school district that has a way to figure out how many people are coming in, you have to live in that area to be able to go to the schools.

They say there's 79, 75 or 79,000 people.

Eight cops, eight.

And that's on four shifts.

Okay.

And

very few speak any Spanish at all.

Any Spanish?

Yeah.

They don't speak Spanish.

And the residents generally don't speak English.

So that's a good compliment.

It's a really good complex.

It's crazy.

It's crazy what's going on.

I talked to the sheriff yesterday, and

this is the hardest story to figure out because

I hear

opposite stories from everybody we talk to.

And the sheriff was the first one that said, boom, here's the book.

Here's what's really going on.

So we're going to follow up this week with Jason.

That'll be interesting.

And Jason Butchrell doing the coverage.

I've never seen a documentary where the host is wearing a tank top.

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I told you yesterday that Instagram,

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It was right after October 7th.

We didn't show any graphic stuff.

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I'm sure my numbers are being suppressed now.

And it's because

I was talking about a dangerous group.

Well, yeah, it's Hamas.

And I was reporting the news.

What, you're banning this?

Yes, is the answer.

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There's a couple of other things that I want to go through today.

There is,

well, this one's just kind of satisfying.

At the Met Opera last week, which is so relatable.

Everybody goes to the opera.

And,

you know, it's like, what's playing at the opera right now?

Is it Ghost Protocol?

No, probably.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know.

But anyway,

at the Met,

these climate protesters came in.

Now, this is so satisfying to me because

the Met is full of all those rich, snotty leftists, most likely.

And

they're the ones who are funding all these climate idiots.

So a climate idiot gets into the Met and starts to disrupt

the opera.

Here it is.

Shut up.

Never liked an opera audience more than this.

I know.

I mean, wait till you see the guy in the tuxedo come.

just shut up and get out

I mean I mean they hit this so somebody when somebody in the crowd hit this old lady I mean they say

they're like you know

people pay hundreds of thousands to come here

you're lucky you're not ending up in the

out of here

i mean this is this is worse than anything the media ever showed about a trump rally yeah he's really they're really pissed they're really pissed are they aware the thing they're there for sucks i don't think so i think they're still under the illusion that this is nice oh wow that's that's the big problem i'm really enjoying this no they're not like you got to believe half the men in that audience were like thank you thank god

honey we should go we should go something bad might happen that we should get out of here Very dangerous.

Plus, what are we doing for the climate?

I'm very concerned what we're doing.

We should not go to those operas anymore.

No.

It is fascinating, of course, the people that fund all of these.

Extinction Rebellion is the group that did this, and they're one of the most extreme organizations on the planet.

We have a recurring segment on Studios America called Idiots

Gluing Themselves to Things.

Yeah.

And that's usually Extinction Rebellion.

They go and they're the people that glue themselves to the floor of like a factory.

And and you're just like, why don't we

just leave them there?

I would never take, they could help them out.

I'd just

leave them there.

Bye.

We just take the, you know, we just work around them.

We'll just work around them.

Draw a yellow circle around for safety

so you don't run into them or, you know, and you just leave them there.

Just do that once, and it's never going to happen again.

No one's ever going to glue themselves to things again.

Nope.

But it would be almost like a sequel to the the movie Saw, where eventually they g you just leave a saw with them in the circle and just wait wait until they saw their hands off to get out.

I mean, it would probably take a week or two.

Yeah, well,

so they have access to water.

I, you know,

that's

I say they go, especially if they do it in an opera house and the operas are going on.

Oh, I think, yeah, you just.

They'll be dead in a day.

Yeah.

The operas, I think, you just, you, you keep, you keep going with them.

And you'd be like, okay, here's your saw.

You can saw your hand off anytime you want to leave.

And then they may just commit suicide with the saw to get out of the opera, which is a fascinating development.

So here's Senator Kennedy yesterday talking to

our

FBI director,

Christopher Wray, about the Hunter Biden laptop, which we now know they knew everything about.

They had all the information.

Sure.

And they kept silent.

Listen to what Christopher Wray says.

Why didn't the FBI just say, hey,

the laptop's real?

Why didn't you just tell everybody the laptop's real?

We're not vouching for what's on it, but it's real.

This is

a fiction.

Well,

as you might imagine, the FBI cannot, especially in a time like that, be talking about an ongoing investigation.

Second, I would tell you that at least my understanding is that both the FBI folks involved in the conversations and the Twitter folks involved in the conversations both say that the FBI did not direct Twitter to suppress but others were in government.

Well, I can't, again, I can't speak to others in government.

That's part of the point that I was trying to make because the fiscal.

But you're the FBI.

You're not part of the White House and part of Homeland Security.

You're not supposed to be political.

You see all this controversy going on.

Why didn't the FBI say, time out, folks?

We're not getting in the middle of this, but the laptop's real.

Well, he said, because you can't get involved in the middle of an election.

So

we couldn't deny the falsehoods.

It's in the middle of an election.

Wouldn't that be the one thing that you would want them to do?

Is just say, look, we're not saying anything about the content of it, but

this is not Russian propaganda.

This is not Russian propaganda.

The laptop is real.

But what's on it, we can't vouch for.

At the very least, they certainly should have informed the other branches of government that this was going on.

Because those branches of government were going to all these social media accounts and saying the exact opposite.

They were saying it is Russian propaganda.

They were releasing letters saying this is Russian propaganda when in reality

they probably knew.

I mean, my guess is the FBI did go and did inform them that this was real and they did it anyway to get it pulled down.

That's the real crime.

And again,

I'm with you.

You know, Christopher Wray, I have no soft spot for him him in my opinion.

Donald Trump says

the jury's still out on him.

Is it?

Really?

I mean, obviously Trump appointed him.

Is that what he's saying?

Yeah, he's like, I'm not sure now.

Yeah, I'm not sure.

I am.

Wow, that's surprising.

Yeah.

I thought he, I mean, because some of this stuff has burned Trump.

I mean,

it's not like Christopher Wray has been helpful to Donald Trump.

I'm surprised he's not.

And I don't want him just to go in.

What'd you think about his statement?

So Donald Trump.

His statement, I'm not going to be a dictator.

I mean, on the first day I will be, but only that day.

I would prefer zero days being a dictator.

I mean, that's why I say it's so Donald Trump.

Yeah, he was tough.

That's the way he, yeah, that's the way he does things.

He's basically saying, yeah, I'm going to be a dictator for this first day.

I'm going to repeal all of those executive orders.

They're all going away.

Yeah, and of course, that's not.

It's the, that's the opposite of a dictator.

Yeah.

Right.

You're taking someone who has been acting like a dictator and repealing what he's doing.

That's not being a dictator.

Again, like, it's funny.

Trump is the opposite of everybody else when it comes to this stuff.

And maybe this is part of his magical power.

But like, most people want to say something in the way that will explain it the best

and

also

that will cause the least problems for you.

Like,

you would want to form a sentence in a way that would disarm criticism.

He does the opposite.

He's saying, like when he's saying this dictator thing, and I read the transcript of it.

I didn't see the clip, but I read the transcript of it.

And he's clearly just saying that he will go in and use the executive powers that he has as president and unwind bad policies that were put in by another executive.

That's not a dictator.

That is not a way to describe what a dictator does, but he actually says it in a way that makes it sound worse than it is.

He's intentionally making it sound bad.

I know.

I think he loves that.

I think he loves it.

I think he loves that.

And it does seem to work for him, at least with Republican primary voters.

Like, I mean, I don't know that it works for everybody.

You know, it worked in 2016.

He got over the finish line there.

2020 didn't.

But with 2024, question mark.

Interesting year.

2024 is going to be a lot of fun.

I can't wait to see how this turns out.

I can't wait to watch this all play out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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All right, welcome to the program.

Let me play something else.

We had Christopher Wray testifying

in front of the Senate yesterday,

and we found out more information that they are talking to priests, monitoring Catholic churches, following Catholics.

The FBI is targeting Catholics.

Senator Hawley didn't like that.

Listen.

So the 60 million American Catholics

who now learn that your FBI has recommended that priests be recruited as informants.

Your FBI has gone to priests, choir directors, but we're to feel better because you've admonished them for their wrongdoing.

You again are conflating two different things.

I am taking your testimony where you said you do not.

You said categorically, categorically, you said, we do not.

We do not go to priests and ask them about their parishioners.

You said, we do not.

You didn't say, we haven't.

You didn't say we won't.

You said, we don't.

As it turns out, you do.

And you kept it from the public.

You deliberately misled Congress about it.

And the only reason we know about it is because a whistleblower came forward.

I just fundamentally disagree with your characterization.

There's no characterization.

The facts are the facts.

And I fundamentally resent the fact that you have violated, if not the spirit, if not the letter,

certainly the spirit of the First Amendment.

I will tell you that these guys, if

the Republicans win

the presidency, because that's what it's going to take, these guys are going to to go to jail for perjury.

Because

I will tell you, Rand Paul is mad as hell.

Holly is mad as hell.

A lot of them are.

And they can't do anything.

They can't say you perjured yourself in front of Congress because

they only turn it over to the Justice Department.

And with the Justice Department being so corrupt, they're never going to prosecute any of these guys.

They all have to be prosecuted.

You lied to Congress.

It should be over.