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Hello, and welcome to the Glenbeck program.

Yesterday, Russia's Wagner group said they were going to supply Hezbollah with air defense.

So that's good.

We got that going for us.

Now, Hezbollah is making a major announcement.

Even as we speak, I don't speak Hezbollah, so I don't know what they're saying, but we'll get the translation here in about a half an hour.

But they're making a major announcement in the Middle East.

I think they're going to reverse themselves on gay marriage.

Not on homosexuality.

They'll still behead you for that,

but on gay marriage, they're going to be fine.

Oh.

Nice.

So that way they can behead both of the

participants.

No, no, no.

If you want to get married, but you're not gay, but you want to be gay married, you can do that.

But no gay people can exist.

In fact, they don't exist.

If they do exist, they'll have to behead them.

The only ones that exist are Queers for Palestine.

That's it.

The queers for Palestine.

They'll be all right.

Well, they exist.

I wouldn't say they'd be

able to get away from it.

They should not visit anytime soon.

So we don't know what they're going to announce, but we'll get to that here in a second.

Let me give you a

couple of other things.

Pat Gray joins us from Pat Gray Unleashed.

And Pat, I would like you to play color to our sports

commentary here.

And I know we're, you know, but you know sports, and so you could do this.

this is a supermarket where some, some shoplifter is trying to get out of the store, uh, and the security guard is trying to stop him, and something happens towards the end.

Here we go.

All right, we've got a security guard now playing a defense as a shoplifter attempts to leave the store, utilizing a shopping cart as sort of a barrier here, as it's an interesting maneuver, shuffling back and forth.

Oh, boy!

Out of nowhere, what was

that?

Appeared to be another shopper who fired a two-liter bottle of Coke at the head of the shoplifter and danced me go.

Watch this.

Boom.

I mean, that is a good shot.

Seriously.

Seriously, that kid could be a quarterback.

Do you know how many backup quarterbacks are playing in the NFL this week?

I mean,

sign this person up.

Whatever it is.

I mean, I think that's fantastic.

now

i i thought it would be better if we ran this video with a little music behind it because it it reminded me of something and i thought you know what

i would like to do this so here it is

i like to teach the world to sing with me

i like to wire the world

and keep it company oh

it is the real thing.

And I think we should all maybe consider carrying around a

two-liter jug of Coke.

I love how he throws it, knocks the guy completely out, and then just calmly walks off.

Yeah.

Just goes back to the routing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What he was doing.

Tell me, though, this story does not end with the shopper who threw the Coke bottle in.

Charged.

It depends.

It depends.

Where did this happen?

I don't know.

Depends on what state.

If it's in Texas,

guy will get a parade with the Rangers.

Depends what city he's in.

Yes, yes.

Yes.

That's true.

That's true.

All right.

One other thing that I've got, and then, you know, I'd love to hear anything you have.

I just, we have an article at Glenbeck.com.

Sabo's been busy lately.

Sabo is the street artist in Los Angeles who is,

well,

he's, he's, he's conservative.

Uh, and, well, in some ways,

he's anti-fascist, let's put it that way.

And so here are the latest from him, the street designs that he has.

He's taken one.

It's a stop sign

that he has now put Joe Biden sniffing the hair of a girl

with the word stop.

I actually think that is great.

That's appropriate and should be.

Here's one.

this is

a highway sign, you know, the interstate highway sign, the red, white, and blue one.

It says the red, Newsom failed, and then Exodus East

with a little U-Haul sticker on it.

Then we have

then we have this one, World War III,

full metal jack.

something.

It's blurred out.

I don't know.

But it has Joe Biden's stupid face

with a Hezbollah.

He's wearing a helmet with a Hezbollah banner around it or scarf and a Ukraine flag on it.

And then the people parachuting in, BLM

loves Hamas.

Now, if you happen to be really offended by the Hamas thing, do we have the Hamas one first?

Yeah, there.

He hung these from the signs.

or from the stop signs

or stoplights all across Los Angeles.

They are

BLM loves Hamas paratroopers or the guys that are

paragliders coming in.

Those, he said, were the first to be taken down at sunlight.

Oh, my gosh.

Yeah.

BLM loves Hamas.

It's amazing.

Hard to deny.

They seem to be overtly loving them.

Yeah.

They're making no bones about it.

Yeah.

And then, of course, this is the first time it's been seen on the street.

One that he made for us.

We have

t-shirts and

sweatshirts for this.

It is the Trump,

the Trump,

what do you call it, a booking photo with a little help from

Sabo.

Just says Corn Pop, One Bad Dude, 2024.

You can find these at Glennbeck.com, and you can find the Corn Pop stuff also at Glenbeck.com.

Find it and

wear it proudly.

So, Pat, what was the thing that

you felt this week needed to be discussed and is not going to bring us down on a Friday?

It's not going to bring us down?

Yeah, so

there was no topic

that won't bring you down.

All right, so what are your thoughts on the week?

I am

flabbergasted at the administration and how they're trying to play both sides.

Oh, yeah.

I can't.

It's

really hard to take.

Don't you feel like it's a setup?

They're only playing both sides as long as they have to.

Yeah.

That they will go over to the Hamas Palestinian side.

Yeah.

And the amazing thing, though, is how many people have openly already jumped into the Palestinian side.

The Hamas side, the anti-Jewish side.

And they don't care.

They don't hide it.

They talk about their Jew hatred.

It's

like their 30s all over again.

Remember the book that I told you guys about the diary?

I don't know if either of you ever read

the diary from the guy, the German in World War II.

He talks about, because I've said, you will understand what's coming and where we are in the process if you read this book, because he's basically writing a diary.

He gets to this point to where his friends, who he thought were normal.

just a week ago are coming in and saying these damn Jews have all got to go.

It happens quickly.

It happens.

He said it happened overnight and it happened overnight here.

Yes.

A couple weeks, right?

You know, all of a sudden, people, you know, people that you hear on TV and on the streets are quoting Adolf Hitler and you're like, and they're fine with it.

They're fine with it.

And why is that?

I mean, it's been bubbling inside of them the whole time.

It didn't just happen.

You know, it's just no, it's safe for them now, apparently, to let it out.

It's what we warn.

It's why I have been talking about anti-Semitism.

It's why I went over.

Have you seen the

film from Restoring Courage?

The speech I gave?

I watched it last night.

Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh, was that inspired?

That

speech should be given today.

I mean, it is.

It's remarkable.

Because as I'm watching it, I'm thinking to myself,

why did I write those words?

Why?

Because it wasn't happening at the time.

Do you remember?

Oh, yeah, I do.

Yeah.

And we were like, and I, and I just felt like it's important to say these things.

And it was written for this time.

I'm going to post it this weekend.

It's unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

Everything that I'm saying, you know,

it was crazy.

I'm like, you know, you're going to be in the minority, but you have to stand up.

You have to say no.

If they're going to say, we're coming for the Jews, you have to stand up and say, then count me as a Jew.

Wow.

I talked about how the world will go insane and

all of the world, including our government, will start to stand up against the Jew.

I mean, it's amazing.

And that's 12 years old.

How'd you look?

Shut up.

Wait, I mean, what's the implication here?

I don't know why he sounds how he looked.

That was a weird question.

He looked at that young, healthy man there,

you know, at the lowest weight he had been since, you know, high school.

You remember?

Because that week.

That wasn't really.

Wow.

Two days before that, remember, I had to go to the hospital.

I had passed out.

Don't you remember?

You weren't there.

No.

You remember that?

I remember it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They took me out

because I was writing the speech and I'm, David Barton walks in and David said, hey, Glenn, how you doing?

And I went, I'm really, and then I just collapsed on the floor and I was out for a while.

I wake up and everybody is around me, security and everybody's around me.

And they're strapping me to a,

you know, a,

what do you call it?

A gurney.

A gurney.

And they're.

picking me up and they're going to take me out.

And I'm hearing them on the phone with the prime minister's office and they're saying he can't go to a regular hospital he can't he can't we can't have this come out it will be really bad for the event blah blah blah they took me through the back stairs of this hospital because I couldn't use the elevator so had to go down the back stairs I get into this ambulance and they take me to a this hospital to a underground bunker hospital that is used for the prime minister.

If there's anybody in the military or anybody in the

government that is hurt or, you know, there's any kind of problems going on with terrorism, they use that.

And I go in and I just see the ceiling of this place and it's completely dark.

And I'm like, what?

Where are you guys taking me?

And they turn on the lights and then all of a sudden from the hospital, a whole bunch of people come down.

Wow.

And I mean, so it was

weird.

Today they would have had to get you out of there with a crane.

But

fortunately, that wasn't the case back then.

Why do I invite him?

Why do I invite him on?

Wouldn't it be nice to let, and you brought me cookies yesterday.

I know.

You enabler.

You enabler.

I got to tell you, Kexie cookies, if you have not had Pat's wife's cookies, they're unbelievable.

She's absolutely a witch.

I told my wife.

No, I mean that in a good way, unlike the one that rhymes when I talk about you.

Make that last fat joke.

That was Pat.

Yeah, well, you will.

Nabler.

So

I told Tanya, I said, we are sending only Kexie cookies to, you know, because we usually will send, you know, fruit basket or flowers or something

for the Christmas list.

This is way better.

Yeah.

Way better.

Yeah.

And you've got to try the Boston cream pie coffee.

Ungood.

Believable.

You have to do it.

It's the only cookie that I recommend you eat with a spoon.

Yeah.

Seriously.

Delicious.

It is so good.

So good.

Not that I had one, honey, while you were gone.

I did not have one.

Why would he?

Anyway, that's weird.

Kexi.com is a place to go to get them.

Thank you.

Great holiday.

How do you spell that stupid thing?

K-E-K-S-I.

Yeah, just like it sounds.

Just like it sounds.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Justin Haskins is with us now.

He is the co-author of The Great Reset and Dark Future, both of my New York Times best-selling books, and also research center director for the Heartland Institute Socialism Research Center.

How are you?

Good morning, Glenn.

How are you?

I'm doing great.

I'm in Stu's chair.

We threw Stu out of the studio.

Yeah.

He's terrible.

I'm in the chair.

And I got to tell you, this feels good.

This feels right.

Don't get too kukomfy.

You have also brought with you Bob Rommel.

Bob is the Florida state representative who has been fighting against ESG in Florida.

And Florida has the model.

Yes.

Do you think?

Oh, yes.

Yes.

As you know, back when we put...

the Great Reset book together and we realized that ESG was the key to the entire Great Reset puzzle.

And you and I thought, this is pretty depressing because no one's going to do anything about it.

We were convinced no one was going to do anything about it.

Then the book came out and states across the country started enacting various ways of fighting back against ESG.

But in many of those cases, we've had 14 different states that have put some kind of anti-ESG legislation together.

Most of them are focused on making sure that government pensions and government contracts are not being used to promote ESG causes.

That's really good.

Okay.

That's really great.

It's a start.

It's a start.

But if you really want to protect people, you have to protect consumers.

You have to protect the individual.

And the only place where they have actually enacted a law that does this, that protects financial individuals from financial institutions promoting ESG is in the state of Florida.

And Bob Rommel, who's here with us today in the studio, is the champion of that cause.

He's the guy who led the charge in the House.

And he is a personal hero.

He really is.

He's a personal hero.

So thank you for being here, Bob.

Bob, thank you for standing up for this.

I don't know why more states won't protect the consumer.

They'll protect all the big guys, but it's the consumer, it's the little person when they go to try to get a loan, you know, the farmer that tries to go get a loan and he's rejected because he's not doing everything he's supposed to do ESG-wise.

And that consumer will never be told it was because of ESG, so they can't sue them.

They can't do anything about it.

Well, Glenn, thank you.

And Justin, thanks for those kind words.

I don't know if anybody's ever called me a champion,

but thank you.

As an ex-banker, I know that if you control the capital, you make all the rules and you do everything.

And I started looking at ESG, some of the ESG rules that some people were telling me about two years ago.

And then the incoming speaker, I told him about we have to do something about this in Florida.

We need to protect our citizens.

To me, it's just another form of discrimination.

And as an ex-banker, when we did mortgages for folks, you know, we couldn't discriminate based on race, color, creed, political belief.

They got mortgages based on their ability to pay and their income, period.

That's the way it should be.

That's the way it should be.

That's how our country was built.

And you always, when the government messes with our banks and tells them that you have to consider other things, it creates a system that is false and it creates the bubble that we had in 08.

That was the United States government telling banks, you have to make more loans in

these ways, which the people couldn't afford, but the government was demanding the banks do it.

And

luckily that we had in Florida, we had a speaker.

And we had a governor that wanted to do something because the pushback was huge.

And it was pushed back on multiple sides.

So Democrats, and I believe it was a a democrat that came up with esg they're great at coming up with these new words and these new terminology so the first thing is environment you know environment so listen everybody wants clean water clean air so they say well we have to do this to save the environment because if not we're all going to die and i don't know if anybody's listening but we're all going to die eventually anyway we're all dying just slower just slower so then the social governance and i go what is social governance and and if you you know you can look at a couple of the greatest American iconic companies in the world, that social governance has destroyed their value of their companies.

Disney.

Disney and Anheuser-Busch.

You would think both of them.

Coca-Cola is really bad, too.

Oh, yeah.

And so, me as a business person, whenever I hired somebody, I hired the best, the brightest, and the people that actually show up to work.

Yes.

And I never looked at their race or, you know, or their political beliefs.

I just wanted to hire the best.

And that's how our country was built.

Our country was built on access to capital.

And people like Thomas Edison.

I know you have an issue with Thomas Edison.

Thank you for knowing that.

I know you do.

And, you know,

we could debate whether that was the best technology or not.

But we need to make sure that the next inventors have access to capital.

So whatever the next great invention that's going to help civilization is available.

And when I saw what was happening, a friend of mine has a multinational company, and he was showing me a worksheet that he would have to fill out to get capital.

And it had nothing to do with his business or the ability to pay.

It was based on how many transgender people do you have working here?

How much carbon footprint do you have?

What are you using to mitigate your carbon footprint?

And I said, there's something wrong here.

And you know what?

In the end, it's going to hurt civilization.

And in Florida, we wanted to make sure we did something to protect our citizens.

Okay, so now,

does this actually, if I'm a citizen and I go to a bank and I feel they've judged me on ESG,

does this cover me as a citizen of Florida?

Yeah, so there's no doubt that the law, and they're going to challenge it.

We highly suspect banks are going to fight this because they wanted to be able to discriminate against people.

That's what banks want the ability to do, and they're being pushed by the left and big asset managers.

But yes, that's what the law is designed to do.

The law is designed to make sure that if you are being discriminated against, that you have an ability to file a complaint with the government so that the government makes sure that that doesn't happen.

Now, one of the problems that we have, and Rep Rommel is trying to address this going forward, is how do we even know that that's what's going on?

How do we know the bank?

Because the bank might not tell you.

The bank might just deny you the loan and never tell you why.

And so we need to figure out a way to make sure that people know why they're being denied access to bank accounts and things like that.

So

do you want to talk a little bit about that plan that you have?

Sure.

We know what we did.

We knew it was going to get challenged.

And we had a tremendous amount of pushback and pushback from people I didn't even understand why they were pushing back.

Matter of fact, one of the second in charge of BlackRock came to visit me, the commerce chair in Florida, which was kind of cool.

He read my background.

He goes, oh, he seems like you're more of a libertarian.

You're a free market guy.

Why are you interfering with business?

And I said, it sounds like you're interfering.

And we actually had a great conversation.

And

he was talking about, this is just free market business.

And I said, well, let's talk about ESG.

And I said, did you fly down here to visit me on a private plane?

And he said, yeah.

Matter of fact, I go, did you pick the most diverse pilot or did you pick the best pilot?

He goes, that doesn't matter.

And I go, no, it does matter.

I go, if you truly believe in this stuff, you'll make the most diverse pilot.

God forbid you're ever going to get sick.

You're going to get the most diverse surgeon.

But it's not.

This is about you controlling the markets, controlling capital, controlling people, making people have fewer decisions and maybe buying some bad technology.

And, you know, they kept pushing and pushing.

The banks came back to me and said, oh, you're interfering with us.

But, you know what?

They're all

so bad.

This banking, it's a cartel that they have going against,

you know, against our representatives and our legislatures in America.

This cartel comes in so heavy-handed with loads of money and credibility and tries to stop people like you.

You know, and we had to be careful the way he crafted the bill because if you use ESG as a form of scoring, you won't be able to, you know,

issue Florida bonds.

You won't be able to be accessed to qualified public deposits, our pension funds.

But we also had to make sure that if everybody did it, we were able to write checks in the state of Florida to pay our bills.

So there was a balance there, and we had to make sure that there was other access.

And there is.

There's not quite enough for $300 billion dollars in uh local community banks so i think we're in a good place there but um over the summer one of our local businesses in florida dr mercola who owns a very big supermarket but he also owns a multinational natural health vitamin company and over the summer i get a call from one of his representatives and he goes uh rep bromo can you help us and i go i'll try what's up and he said well all of the managers and multiple employees from the merculler markets been debanked Their bank, which was JPMorgan Chase, gave them letters and say, find new banks.

We're not going to bank with you anymore.

So I talked to a J.P.

Morgan.

Hang on just a second.

How rare was it?

Because I had never heard of being debanked before, unless you were like Al Capone.

I had never heard of that.

How rare did that used to be?

I would think never because banks wanted you to keep your money and your non-interest

accounts and pay fleet fees and things like that to earn income.

So we looked into it a little bit and I talked to their rep and they said, well, Bob, you know, he could be doing money laundering or some suspicious activity.

And by the law, we're obligated to debank them.

I go, his entire workforce?

And they couldn't tell me because, you know,

I'm not authorized to hear this information.

And again, the state of Florida, if you're running arms or fentanyl, We don't want you banking either.

Right.

But we also believe in due process in the state of Florida.

I don't trust you as the bank, and I don't trust you as some federal agency to say this person needs to be debanked.

Because I remember Operation Chokehold when they told payday loans and arms dealers, I think that was, you know, Obama era, yeah.

Obama era 2013, Operation Chokepoint, that you can't do any banking business.

So I don't trust the federal government agencies, and I don't trust the banks that are colluding with ESG, with our federal agencies to do to bank them.

So what I'm going to try to do this year, assuming it's passed,

that if you're a bank and you debank one of our Florida citizens, a business or an individual, first of all, you're going to have to tell Florida, you're going to have to tell the Division of Financial Services, hey, I debanked Dr.

Mercola, and this is why I did it.

Then we as a state, keep it in private, will investigate.

If we felt that you did it in bad faith, well, we're going to fine you and you're not going to do business in Florida.

Good for you.

And then the individual that was harmed, we're going to allow them to have a private right of action against that bank.

Excellent.

Excellent.

That is fair.

That was right.

Yeah, I was right.

This is amazing.

This is what this is.

By the way, this is what is it?

Fair access.

That's the shorthand.

Shorthand is fair access.

There are many states that have passed now anti-ESG laws, but it is fair access that gives the power to the individual to be able to get the information and to sue if

it's wrong information or based on ESG.

And you guys have led the way.

So

let me ask you, what was the name of the bank that debanked this guy?

It was JP Morgan Chase.

J.P.

Morgan Chase.

That's a big bank.

It is a big bank.

And I believe JP Morgan Chase

is one of the organizations that flagged the Treasury on

money laundering for Hunter Biden.

Really?

I think that is true.

I think you're right.

I'd have to check.

I think it is.

You should ask them, did you debank Hunter Biden when you suspected money laundering?

You know what?

I bet they didn't do that because

it's a good bad.

Unless they did, and that's why Hunter can't pay his child support.

Yeah, maybe, maybe.

Okay, so what do people need to do to make sure that next year we sew this up?

The biggest thing is that

state lawmakers, their representatives all across the country, they need to understand that

ESG is a huge problem.

It's maybe the biggest problem facing the average citizen in America right now.

The problem is going to get bigger because in Europe, they're about to make ESG mandatory and they're going to drag a whole bunch of American companies into the mix and they're going to be beholden to Europe's ESG system.

Right.

They will have to live ESG here if they want to do business And the only thing worse than ESG is ESG created by Europeans.

That's the only thing that could make it worse, right?

And so what we need to do is make sure that there are protections for individuals.

It can't just be for big businesses.

It can't just be for industry.

It can't just be on environment issues or fossil fuels.

Those things matter, but we need to have protections for the individual person.

And if your state is not doing that, then they are not looking out for you.

They are not protecting you.

And you are going to be a victim of this eventually because there is just way too much money and planning and power behind it, as we've shown in the last two books that we did on this topic.

You guys are at, you're over at the legislative conference, aren't you?

Yes, yeah.

Yeah.

Are you there in time for that?

Yes, and we're actually presenting together very briefly a little bit later.

So I'm glad that you're now learning that this is happening.

I'm glad.

I got to catch a plane today, and I'm like, I don't know what I'm going to talk about today.

Here's what I'm going to say.

Justin.

Oh, okay, good.

What should people do?

Anyway, the pro-family legislative conference is happening.

There are about 200

pro-family

lawmakers that are in town.

And all weekend long, I'd ask for you to pray for them.

These people, like Bob, are really

I mean, they are on the edge and standing up for the really hard things.

They take bullets in the back, in the side, in the front, all of the time.

They are looking for pro-life legislation protecting women's sports.

Have you did it start yet this morning?

When's it going?

Yeah, it started last night, but today's the first full day of programming and stuff.

I wish I could be there for the artificial intelligence thing and the digital dollar.

Well, those are things I'm doing.

So you know all about what I think on these issues.

Yeah, right.

Okay.

I think I taught you about AI.

Maybe, I don't know.

Okay, that is great.

Bob, thank you so much.

Have you guys decided what's going to happen if, well, eventually,

Ron DeSantis cannot run again for another term?

So whether he becomes president or whether he just terms out, is the state going to be stable?

Is it him or have you guys written enough

into the laws that it can't be changed?

It's not all executive order, right?

None of it's really executive order in Florida.

We believe in the power of the legislature.

If we pass it and he signs it, it's law.

You know, states are different than the the federal government, thank God.

And I know you were just talking about, you know, pro-family stuff.

We already did boys don't go in girls' room.

We already did boys don't play in girls' sports.

We did the heartbait bill.

And last year for education, we had the education savings account, but basically gives every single child a voucher to go to any school they want.

And Florida, we ranked third in K-12 education now.

And 30 years ago, we were the worst.

Oh, you were.

I lived there in the

right around 2000.

And

Florida struggled with schools.

And now we're Texas struggling with schools.

And we've got one Republican, the Speaker of the House here in Texas, standing against school choice.

Hopefully that will change.

The best of the Glenbeck program.

Is everything racist?

It's time for another episode of Everything is Racist.

Everything is racist.

Every thought you have is a KKK dream.

Everything is is resistant.

White so far as they stream.

All right, going into the Pandaverse now

as we are looking at ornithology.

Yes, it's very important, Glenn.

I hope you know that a lot of the familiar names you know about from birding, I know you're a big birder.

I'm not a big birder.

Big birder.

Glenn said, people don't know that.

Big birder.

I don't know anybody who is a big birder.

Oh, huge birder.

I eat birds.

Well, that's why you're looking for them.

So you could eat them.

Okay, yeah.

That's a little different than the typical birder.

I will say you do it a little bit differently.

But you're going to have to say goodbye to some very familiar bird names.

Oh.

Like.

Like.

I mean, say it with me.

Anna's hummingbird.

Hummingbird.

Anna's hummingbird.

Gamble's quail.

Gamble's quail.

Lewis's woodpecker.

Lewis's woodpecker.

That one sounds like we shouldn't talk about it.

What is that?

That's Lewis's woodpecker.

Woodpecker.

Just leave him alone.

Stop playing with that.

Bullock's Oriole.

How many times have you been like, oh, look, it's Bullock's Oriole right over there?

I usually will just say it's an Oriole, but when it's Bullock's Oriole,

that it rubs me wrong.

It does.

It rubs me wrong.

It does.

Well, apparently, these are going to go away because of the American Oranthological Society, how they vow to change

it to change the English names of all bird species currently named after people, along with any other bird names deemed offensive or exclusionary.

Okay.

Now.

Okay, he got just to say.

To whom?

The birds?

No, the birds don't care about the names.

The birds don't care.

It's okay.

Apparently about human beings, as they discussed in the article at length.

So is this happening all over the world in every language,

any other society that is named a bird?

There's only one society that matters, and it's really

American Oranthological Society.

Okay, all right.

Which is a word I've said many, many times, not just starting yesterday.

Remember, yes.

Now,

there have also banned names that were named after like Native American tribes because that's also offensive, like the Washington Redskins.

That was offense.

We had to get rid of that, even though they approved of it.

About 90% of the people in the tribe approved of it.

That didn't matter.

So this move comes as a part of a broader effort to diversify birding.

and make it more welcoming to people of all races and backgrounds.

I have to tell you, because you know me, I'm one with a hood.

And

I'm down with my peeps in the hood.

And

we're listening to

Lizzo.

Lizzo.

And she's like, damn, where is

my phone?

And I say to myself, Lizzo,

have you thought about

perhaps bird watching?

Birding.

Let's call it by the appropriate term, birding.

I'm in the hood.

I'm okay.

So, this is like a slang term.

Bird watching is a slang term for birding.

Okay, got it.

And

she says, Where the hell is my phone?

And I said, You don't need one.

You just go out with all the stuff that you might get from the oranthological society

and

you just go watch them birds.

And she said to me, and this is a quote:

Birding is too racist.

Oh, yeah.

And I said, I'm with you.

I'm with you on that, but can you explain?

And she said,

I don't think I have to to you, Glenn.

And I said, damn right.

That's right.

I remember that.

You told me about that conversation.

It's a really good story.

We have contemporaneous notes backing that up in case anyone's wants to see it.

So, like, this is very common, actually.

Like, a lot of, there's a lot of people who are sitting around and they're just like, you know, I'd love to get into birding, but I find the name Lewis's woodpecker to be a little offensive.

It doesn't feel like I'm something else besides

because there's, you know, there's never been an African-American in the side of the barn, and now I've got to replace that whole slap with Lewis's woodpecker?

No, because Lewis's woodpecker put a hole in the barn.

It's a large bird.

Let's stop.

Is it let's stop?

Lewis had a big bird.

And a lot of people talk about it.

So,

but you know, I don't know.

Are there a lot of people that go through this process that are like, I just, you know, because there's never been an African-American name with a last name of Lewis.

That's never occurred, certainly throughout history.

So Joe.

Yeah, Carl.

Carl, you know, I don't know.

There's been some.

But you'd think.

One who wrote Alice in Wonderland.

That one.

Yeah.

Whoever that was.

Okay.

So biologist Erica Knoll says she was recently visiting some salt marshes.

Now, I know you have a timeshare near a salt marsh that you visit often.

I get all my salt there.

Yeah.

And she saw a common bird there that's called Wilson's Snipe.

Now, as you know, there's also never been an African-American with the last name Wilson.

They don't,

never occurred.

Clip.

Russell.

So, which

this bird has a long bill and engages in dramatic displays, such as flying in high circles, which produces a whistling sound as air flows over specialized feathers.

Very good.

You are a birder, I can tell.

Yeah, I can tell.

That's the Wilson

snipe.

It's the snipe.

Which I think is actually a pretty cool name.

Snipe!

Yeah, that's what it sounds like.

Just like.

Snipe!

I do the calls sometimes.

But it doesn't say Wilson.

It just says Snipe.

It just says Snipe.

Yeah.

And this biologist says, quote, and I thought, what a terrible name.

I mean, Wilson was the father of modern ornithology.

But, but this bird has so many other evocative characteristics.

You know,

when I think of the guy who founded modern orthonology.

Orthology.

When I think of him, I think, that damn Wilson.

Yes.

That damn Wilson, his name is everywhere.

Yeah.

Everywhere.

What color was Wilson with Tom Hanks?

White.

The ball was white.

Remember that.

I got it.

Okay.

So that's the typical craziness.

Number one,

they're calling the bird names racist and acting like, you know, some Hispanic person's like, I can't, I would never go into birding now.

I've always wanted to bird, but the name

Lewis, I may not bird now.

Snipe!

Beautiful bird.

A little annoying if it's around your house, but a beautiful bird.

So you have that part.

I have a whole nest of them.

Yeah.

Right.

Secondary part of this, which is ridiculous, is they're not just targeting, because I guess there have been some of these people who named birds who also were around in the 1880s and made racial remarks or did something terrible.

I don't know.

But they're not just targeting those people.

I mean,

if it's like Sherman's N-word, I get it.

Right.

I get it.

You'd understand that.

Right.

You'd understand a name change with that one.

Yeah.

And like, you know, we like, it's hard.

We understand how this process works.

We might think it's stupid erasing history, but like, this has happened all across the country at this point.

They're tearing down statues of freaking Ben Franklin.

I mean, this is not.

Because these guys are not, they're not necessarily bad guys.

Wilson's not a bad guy.

Right.

They're not targeting only people who have done things that could be deemed offensive by modern sensibilities.

Because Tom, Tom's Blue Jay.

Tom's Blue Jay.

Tom was a badass guy.

Yeah.

He knocked over a few of the Southland Corporation's best 7-Elevens

back in the 40s.

Yeah, that's a whole nother story.

But they're targeting anyone, any name.

If you're named after a person, they're they're getting rid of it.

So even if you're the best person.

Not all around the world.

Just the American Oranthological Society.

Yes.

Okay.

And all that's crazy.

Okay.

But that's baseline crazy.

There's another level of crazy with the story.

And here it comes.

The president, Colleen Handel, says, that was the first I'd ever really recognized or heard that a name was offensive.

She says, at that point in time, concerns about injustice weren't a traditionally accepted reason for changing bird names.

But it really started to change in

2020.

When police officer killed George Floyd in Minneapolis.

Wait, that's when the birders

said enough of that.

Enough of the Wilson's snipe and the Lewis's woodpecker because George Floyd has been killed in Minneapolis.

Now, you might say, well, what the hell does that have to do with anything?

This is a totally different story.

No, I I might say, produce one birder that said that.

Right.

Produce just one that said that.

But the issue is it was not really George Floyd's murder.

Oh, it wasn't.

Because on that same day, and you may remember, you may forget that this was the exact same day as George Floyd's.

Same day.

Same day.

Remember this.

Same day.

A white woman.

A white woman.

In Central Park.

In Central Park.

Called the police on

a black birder

named Christian Cooper.

So he was a birder.

Yes, he was a central birder.

He was a guy who was in the bushes watching, maybe looking for Lewis's woodpecker.

Woodpecker.

She called the police, claiming he was threatening her.

Less than a month later, the group called

less than a month later, a group called Bird Names for Birds.

Bird Names for Birds.

I've got to join this organization.

I want to be

a bird.

Can you look it up, Sarah, real quick?

Just look up for their mission statement.

What is their mission statement?

Imagine going door to door, trying to get people to go into,

we represent the Bird Names for Birds Club.

Yeah.

Okay, so.

So Bird Names for Birds,

they write to the American Ornithological Society and say, hey, George Floyd was killed.

This birder was, the police were called by a white woman on this black birder.

Therefore, we should get rid of Wilson's name from Wilson's snipe.

That's basically how this conversation went.

Now, the problem with the story, if you remember, it was called the Central Park Karen story.

This is the story.

And

the main issue with this part of it is the story has been utterly and completely debunked.

There was no black birder.

Well, maybe not utterly, completely, but the black birder did exist, is a human being, but there's a lot of details you probably haven't heard about.

Okay, okay.

So if you remember how this story went down,

here's a couple headlines.

A black man bird watching in Central Park asked a white woman to leash her dog.

She called the police.

Amy Cooper was her name.

She was charged with in Central Park false report against a black bird watcher.

And the problem is.

Is that an actual crime?

Is that the crime she was charged with?

A false police report, yeah.

Oh, but not against a black bird watcher.

Oh, yeah, well, that's a separate crime.

It's like a hate crime.

Okay, okay.

There's false reports.

And then false reports against black birders.

And that's bad.

So let me give you the

footage of this incident because you'll remember it when you hear it.

This is Amy Cooper

being very frantic and insane.

I mean, she's hysterical in this clip.

Of course, the black birder was in the right.

Here is Amy Cooper.

This is from the day George Floyd died.

Would you please stop?

Sir, I'm asking you to stop.

Please don't come close to me.

Sir, I'm asking you to stop recording.

Please don't come close to me.

Please take your phone off.

Please don't come close to me.

Please, please call the cops.

Please call the cops.

I'm gonna tell them there's an African-American man threatening my life.

Please tell them whatever you like.

I'm sorry, I'm in a ramble, and there is a man, African-American, who's a Pfisky man.

He's recording me and threatening me and my dog.

There is an African-American man I am in Central Park.

He is recording me and threatening myself and my dog.

I'm being threatened by a man in the Ramble.

Please send the cops immediately.

I'm in Central Park in the Ramble.

I don't know.

Thank you.

Okay.

Now she's very hysterical.

She's very hysterical.

He seems seems like he's under control and a nice guy.

It's two New Yorkers

that are just

probably

a little nuts.

They're arguing.

I mean, to take it back to this moment, though, in all seriousness, New York City around May 2020 was pretty freaking nuts.

People were afraid to go outside.

This is like

the very beginning of COVID.

And, you know, we can all look back at some of the hysteria then,

you know, with certainly, you know, noticing how ridiculous it was.

Well, that's probably why she, in her twisted New York way, said, He's threatening my life.

And because she was saying, don't come closer to me.

And she's wearing a mask.

Well,

that could be that.

Remember, too, she also had health problems.

She was predisposed to being more affected to COVID.

She had barely gone out at all outside.

She was a terrified person.

And a lot of people in New York at that point were very terrified.

They still are.

Some of them remain to this day.

But what happened to her afterward?

She was

a white woman who called police on Black Bird Watcher, has been fired they took her dog from her dog they took her dog and she actually went into hiding left the country and went into hiding after this so let's just say for a minute she is a racist and she did this You wouldn't necessarily think you'd have to leave the country, but she was being threatened by people.

She was terrified of everybody.

It was very, very bad for her.

When we come back on the other side, I want to give you the actual perspective of what occurred in this incident because nobody knows.

Everyone watched it that way.

The media covered it the way I just described.

Racist white Karen going after this black guy for absolutely no reason.

And

she, good, she got fired.

Good, they took her dog.

Good, she's out of the country.

She's a terrible human being in every way.

Okay, I don't agree with that.

I'm glad maybe she's out of the country, but for entirely different reasons.

Really?

Yeah.

I mean, oh, gee, we lost another New Yorker who was

walking their dog in the park who was wearing a mask and all freaked out about going inside.

But I don't, I mean, I'd like her to move away in happy terms.

Like, I really don't like it here.

Right.

People make too much sense.

That's true.

Well, I mean, I don't, as far as I know, she's not even a member of Bird Names for Birds.

Oh, I don't know.

I've got it pulled up here.

I can.

Oh, you do?

I'll look.

Yeah.

Can I join?

Can I get on board with the bird?

Well, I was just looking at the background.

Concerns about the honorific common bird names is not new.

But this movement seeks to change those names.

Thank God.

Thank God these names are going away.

So they're very upset about Bachmann's sparrow is the first one they bring.

Oh, really?

Yeah, Bachman.

What did Bachman do?

It was a bad.

Just, well, Bachman,

I believe that's probably Jewish.

Oh.

And the Jewish Zionists, they control all of the bird names.

I've been hearing that a lot on college campuses lately.

It's interesting you bring that up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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