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He is the author of the Terminal List series.

He is also a former Navy SEAL, and he's been digging into Israel and Hamas and the Middle East because he's researching a book that is coming out next year.

And so I wanted to give him a chance to maybe share some of the things that he has learned to give us some perspective on

why now,

what does this mean?

If Iran Iran is involved, does that mean Russia is involved?

What are we headed for?

Welcome, Jack.

How are you?

Oh, it's great to be here.

How are you doing, sir?

I'm very good.

I'm very good.

I'm not even an enlisted man, so

I'm certainly not, sir.

So, Jack,

Israel

thought they were duped.

They thought that Hamas had been tamed some.

They cared about, you know, making money and taking care care of their people.

And Hamas did a really good job in reading some of the articles that are out now, did a really good job of duping them into this.

But

Iran seems to be involved, even though our president says there's no evidence of that.

Is there any evidence?

I mean, that makes total sense.

And what does that mean?

Oh, yes, there's a lot to unpack here.

But really, the Israel that Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran was dealing with last week, that's a different Israel than they're dealing with today, most certainly.

And we talk about being duped into something.

It was really a form of quasi-tolerance, meaning that Israel has tolerated a certain level of violence from Hamas.

And they thought that they could contain Hamas.

They could live with that certain level of violence.

They thought Hamas was tolerable, containable in Gaza.

Not today.

That has all changed over the weekend.

The levels of violence perpetrated perpetrated on Israel is something that they have never seen before at this

numbers.

Grandmothers, children, women killed, raped, tortured.

And a friend in Israel who's with the Special Operations Forces over there has been texting me throughout the weekend and over the last couple of days here and has said that what we're seeing in these videos that are coming out are not even the half of it.

It is so much worse than what we're seeing.

And they're in the thick of it right now.

So,

you know, you look at some of these things and you see that 900 Israelis died.

Some of them were Americans.

They died in horrific ways.

It was an execution squad, really, and a kidnapping squad.

As we watch these things,

we have to understand the The population is only 9 million people over in Israel.

So that's like casualties of 30,000 people being tortured and raped and killed here in America.

This is a huge impact.

However,

the way Israel usually deals with it, I think what people don't understand is that it has changed.

Normally, they will go, and then as soon as they respond, then the world starts to say, oh, you've got to stop the killing.

This is horrible.

I don't think Israel is going to stop this time.

I don't think so either.

And for the past decade they've had

the same sort of policies towards Gaza have remained in effect.

It's been semi-working, but I think that they're going to look at those policies, realize those policies were a failure.

All they did was set up Hamas to do what they did over the weekend.

And of course, there's a few wildcards in there as well, as well up in the north.

There's something between 100,000 and 150,000 rockets pointed right out there, right at Israel.

So if that was acceptable last week, week, I don't think that's going to be acceptable for much longer because soon that becomes 200,000 rockets, 250,000 rockets, 300,000 rockets, eventually just buying time where there are enough forces to really do some damage in Israel.

So I think things have shifted across the board.

And Hamas will look at this as their most successful operation in history.

But And we think about Pyrrhic victories, what this has done, and opportunity is a horrible word to use here, but that's really what it is for Israel to hit Hamas so hard that it will take them decades to recover.

Now, I don't think you can eliminate them totally, as we saw in Iraq and Afghanistan over 20 years of trying it with different factions there in those two areas, but they can certainly set them back decades.

So, this is really, I mean, if you look at some of the videos, they were beheading people, one with a garden hoe.

This is the same kind of stuff that we had from ISIS.

What is the difference between those two, if there is any?

And

where is the connection to Iran?

Well, the difference is where they came from.

We talk about tactics and terrorist tactics.

Really, what that means is focusing on those soft civilian targets, not focusing on military targets.

That's really what differentiates us from our enemy and why it's so important to maintain that moral high ground.

But

the question is, why now?

Hamas and really by proxy, Iran and possibly Russia chose the time and the place of this engagement.

So that's the question geopolitically.

Why right now?

And the question obviously is because Israel is so divided.

They have some issues with their judicial and executive branch.

And so they're divided probably like never before.

U.S.

very weak.

The world, Hamas, Israel,

or Iran, Russia, SAR withdrawal from Afghanistan.

see the billions of dollars going to the Ukraine through the division here, see our leader in the White House.

So there's a lot on the table just with those things.

And then we have this U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia

just on the brink of essentially what's like a trilateral type of agreement that deals with oil, increasing production, decreasing price, and a defense pact.

And what I think it really is, I mean, that's what it is on the surface, but I think what it really is, and I have no insider information here, here, is that it includes defense by nuclear weapons.

So it would make, and possibly making Saudi Arabia the first nuclear power in the Middle East, aside from Israel, who doesn't talk about that sort of thing.

Because on the other side, you have Iran, Russia, and China.

And China is Iran's largest trading partner.

Two years ago, they signed a 25-year strategic partnership.

So it is in China's interest and Russia's interest to have Iran as the dominant nuclear power in the region.

So

those are the two sides right there.

U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Russia, China.

But I think what this does, what the Samas

incursion does really is just delays possibly this agreement.

I think it's going to happen.

It just delays it.

We'll see by how long it's going to be.

Where would they be getting the nuke?

Well, from the United States.

Yeah.

So, and

after I talked about this last night

on a news hit, and someone sent me an article from the Times of Israel in which Netanyahu actually says that that's a possibility on the table.

I didn't know that before, but so that it was kind of nice to see that last night after I came off the air.

But really, nuclear supremacy in the Middle East is what's on the table here.

So

we don't have a good relationship currently with the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Or do we?

You never know where they're looking from the outside.

But what's practically and logically what's happening behind closed doors there is that U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia are going to lead the way with this trilateral agreement to really change the fates of the Middle East going forward.

So

that's on the table.

And of course, Iran doesn't want that.

Of course, Israel doesn't, or sorry, Russia doesn't want that.

And of course, China doesn't want that because there's getting a lot of oil from Iran.

If Iran was behind this, is Russia behind this?

I think we can

it's fairly safe to uh conclude that that is a very strong possibility.

And you can use Hamas, you can use Hezbollah, you can use these different proxy terrorist organizations and really manipulate them to get what you want

as a larger, more established power.

So you almost, well, I was going to say you almost feel sorry that they're being manipulated like that, but that's the way of the world.

So, Jack, as I've been thinking about this, I mean, Israel

is one of our strongest allies, one of our best allies.

They're the most like us in the Middle East, for sure.

And the only ones that I think,

you know, would fight on the right side.

The other side is barbaric and evil, I think.

And, you know, I hate to abandon Israel, but I also hate to get roped in to a war with Russia and Iran and possibly do the things they want us to do.

Because I think, and you'd know better than I, I think they're doing to us what we did to the former Soviet Union.

We're bankrupting them.

We're dividing them from the inside.

We're roping them into wars.

And everybody knows we're on the brink of

destruction here.

What should we do to help the Israelis?

Because I also feel strongly we need to help them.

Right.

And I don't think that those,

and I agree with your assessment,

but the division seems to be coming.

They don't need to do too much to divide us.

A little prod here, a little comment there, but we're doing a pretty good of dividing ourselves and

ourselves from the inside, which is absolutely heartbreaking.

So we, obviously, Bretton Accords at the end of World War II, we surprised the world by saying we were going to essentially defend trade routes around the world.

That was going to be a benefit for all countries coming out of the Second World War.

And we just moved a carrier battle group into the Med to send a very strong issue to Iran.

So while our administration says that there's no evidence linking Iran to these attacks, we did move a carrier battle group into the Med to send a pretty clear message to Iran and in support of Israel.

So that's something right there.

But we do move carryover groups around the world quite frequently, obviously, from the end of World War II up to today.

It's our major way we project our strength and really keep the world safe and protect trade.

It's worked up to this point.

But now we're kind of retreating from that.

We don't have as many ships as we used to have.

China is obviously building up their navy.

So things are shifting geopolitically in the world as far as the military powers go.

No doubt about that.

How long will it take?

Not exactly sure, but there is a shift going on right now.

So what else can we do to support Israel?

I'm not sure they're going to need too much from us, meaning we put a carrier battle group right there if things do escalate and Hezbollah does more in the north and something spills over into Iran, then perhaps.

But gloves are off right now.

Israel restraint is out the window.

They have been very, they've restrained themselves over the last at least decade towards Hamas, even towards Hezbollah.

That restraint is now completely out the window.

And Hamas really has thought, and other terrorist groups, insurgent groups, thought of Israel as a, let's say, an occupying nation, a colonial nation, for lack of a better term.

And they looked to the past, they looked to the French in Algeria, they looked to the British in Kenya or India.

But the difference is, and for some reason Hamas and other groups don't recognize this, the French had France to go back to.

The British had Britain to go back to.

Israel doesn't have anywhere to go.

They're going to stand and fight.

They have no other choice.

In fact, their president, President Herzog, as he addressed the nation in the wake of the attacks, he concluded his remarks with something along the lines of, this time, too, the state of Israel will win.

We have no other choice.

And that's true.

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so the white house we're talking to jack carr said the president will struggle to help israel replenish stockpiles of weapons and ammunition as it gears up for full-scale war against the iranian-backed terrorists in the region Congressional official told the Wall Street Journal that they expect Israel to request advanced U.S.-produced GBU-39 small diameter bombs, small arms, ammunition, and 122-millimeter tank rounds, mortars, and more.

The official said being able to supply Israel with enough Tamir interceptors to replenish their iron dome was most worrisome and the biggest problem the administration will face.

How prepared are we?

Or are we just giving everything away?

Yeah, that's a great question and one that our enemies are certainly asking

and certainly watching.

They're seeing untold billions go to Ukraine along with arms and other places around the world, of course, as well, which begs the question, well,

how able are we to defend ourselves in a one-front war, a two-front war,

a three-front?

And the answer to that, if you're looking from the outside, is that we're probably not as prepared as we were a decade ago, two decades ago,

even three, when we really

draw down at the end of the cold, drew down at the end of the Cold War.

So

the other side of this, though, is that we have experience at the tactical level.

We've proven at the strategic level not to be so adept with senior level military leaders, politicians,

even

bureaucrats.

But at the tactical level, we have the most experienced force that we've ever had because that tactical level, those E2s, E3s, E4s, E5s, E6s, E7s, those officers that are now majors and lieutenant colonels, they were once a brand new officer as an 01, 02, 03, fighting in Iraq, fighting in Afghanistan, and they're coming up the ranks.

They don't have as much to work with, but they have experience.

So that's what we have, and that's something that we need to capitalize on.

But

experience without some of those tools

makes things a little more difficult.

So it is certainly something that we need to be aware of, that the next administration needs to be aware of.

And if you want to capitalize on this experience, not let it go to waste, if you want to turn those lessons that we learned over the last 20 years into wisdom going forward, well, now we need to equip.

those soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines that have that experience, that sacrificed so much with the tools they need to defend the nation.

Jack Carr, thank you so much.

When's your new book come out?

Well, next May it's on the books right now, but my first nonfiction, which actually has a Hezbollah connection, but it's called Targeted.

It's my first nonfiction, 1983 Marine Barracks Bombing is coming out next fall.

So two books in the works for 2024.

Great.

Thank you, Jack.

I appreciate it.

Thanks so much.

Take care.

You bet.

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I don't know if anybody else feels this way, but I know where my loyalties lie on the scale of any other nation.

Israel is number one, and that's mainly because of my faith.

This is, and we're going to talk about this here in a second, but this has all been predicted, et cetera, et cetera.

I just want to be smart about what we're doing.

And I don't think there's any intelligence in our military or administration.

There's no intelligence.

Before you're part of a conspiracy theory video, you mean the number one outside of America, correct?

Yes.

Okay.

Yes.

Outside of America.

Because that was going to be clipped and put in.

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Well, I do think that that's waning a bit.

I mean,

we're doing a lot of things that make us think, make me think.

Gee, are we on the wrong side here on just about everything?

I mean, you know, giving $6 billion to Iran isn't one of my favorite things we've done.

Right.

I mean, look, we have

very close ties to Israel and deservedly so.

And I mean, just like with Ukraine and any other country, it has to be done smartly if you're going to get involved in it.

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We have

we already understand that anything that we show on tomorrow night's broadcast, it's all going to be about Israel.

Anything that we show that is a violation of their guidelines, and in this case,

real cruelty,

just

depravity.

But you need to see it because no one is playing it.

And you really need to see the videos coming out of Israel because

it shows these people

are, in the words of Benjamin Netanyahu, their animals.

This is not about

having their two-state solution.

This is about killing Jews.

And they are completely completely unexplainable if you don't believe in God.

I mean,

has anyone asked themselves, how could people hate Jewish people so much that they would behead them with garden tools, that they would rape Jewish women in the streets?

It's just too evil to understand if you don't believe in the battle of good versus evil.

Sometimes I think that the existence of God is proved by these acts of evil.

What we're seeing here, I have more friends that said, you know, I didn't really believe in evil evil until recently because that's the only way I can describe what's happening in our world.

And that's true.

You can't see these videos of families being viciously murdered and think, well, good and evil, you know, know, it's relative.

It's obvious that there is real, true evil.

But that also means there's real, true good.

And there are good people all around the world, and they are starting to stand up.

We are just so far away from good and God right now, you're not seeing it in the mainstream, but you're surrounded by it.

We launched a 40-day study of the biblical covenants last week.

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If you are doing this study with us, this prayer vigil for 40 days and 40 nights, then you know that yesterday just happened to be about the covenant God made with Abraham.

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we obviously didn't know that this was going to happen.

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We obviously didn't know that this was going to happen.

But I'm so overwhelmed because in yesterday's study, we talked about how God promised Abraham a people and a land.

And it is that land and those people that are under attack right now.

Attacking that land is an attack of the promise that God made.

And a big reason the Jews have been targeted throughout history is because

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It's so evil what's happening.

Should be condemned by everyone, but it's not, and it's going to be condemned by less and less as Israel answers.

Remember, this is the equivalent.

If our population were the same as Israel,

they had 900 people, but 900 people doesn't sound like a lot in America.

A one is enough.

But that is the equivalent of 30,000 American citizens.

Somebody coming across our border and wiping out an entire town of 30,000 people.

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Either way, pray for Israel.

They're our brothers and sisters.

I'm trying to get an update now.

We're well over half a million dollars now raised to help Israel.

I'm getting calls like crazy from people saying,

you know, the military people, they need bulletproof vests.

They need this.

They need that.

They need food.

They need water.

This is the biggest operation that they are going to be mounting and have mounted.

And this is war.

This is not what you see Israel do, where they respond and then people say, You got to stop.

That part's going to happen.

But they're not going to stop this time.

Nor should they.

Nor should they.

So, what is this really all about?

has anybody else thought

this doesn't feel right

something's not right about all of this

well

let me bring you a perspective

that you're not going to hear anyplace else

What's happening in Israel is straight out of Alexander Dugan's playbook.

Everything that we are seeing seeing in global affairs appears to be part of a plan Dugan has been crafting for decades.

I want you to understand clearly, I'm not saying he's the mastermind.

I'm just saying his plans are being followed in a remarkable and terrifying way.

So why was Israel attacked?

Whenever you have a conflict of this size breakout, you should always ask two questions.

Why now?

And why to this extend?

Well, everybody knows that Hamas wants war with Israel, but it can't successfully carry it out on its own.

It can't.

It needs foreign funding if it's going to win, and it needs foreign military support.

So everyone also knows that Hamas is heavily dependent on Iran.

Iran has been funding Hamas for years, including giving it weapons, money, training.

Hamas would never do this without getting Iran's support and its blessing.

We know that.

The Wall Street Journal recently said that this is exactly what happened.

See the

story.

Hamas's attacks on Israel were backed by Iran.

We now today have the Washington Post coming out and saying they have found that as well.

So the Post has found it.

The Wall Street Journal has found it.

But our military intelligence didn't see it and still can't find it.

Here's the question we need to be asking.

It is not why would Hamas do this.

It's why

it's why would Iran want Hamas to do this?

And why now?

So there are numerous reasons why Iran could be pushing for an escalation in Israel.

But we all know that religion is a huge component.

But this doesn't explain why Iran would support what we're seeing at this moment.

Why now?

I mean, at first glance, it doesn't seem like

it's a good time for Iran to rock the boat with the Biden administration.

The Biden administration, unlike Trump, is more than willing to do deals with Iran.

It unfroze $6 billion of Iran's assets, for example, as part of a prisoner swap.

We now know that, you know, the, what was it, $75 million that Blinken

signed in and sent over to Iran, or to, yeah, Iran,

sorry, has,

sorry,

to

the Hamas.

They sent that over just hours before.

We now find out that that's probably closer to a quarter of a billion dollars.

The answer of all of this,

why would they do this now?

I think it flows from a wider global conflict that's been developing now for years, the new axis of global powers.

It has been emerging and it has been picking up steam because of the Biden administration and all of their mistakes and bumbling.

It includes Iran, Russia, China, Turkey, and other

traditionalist nations.

In August, we learned that Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt, among other other nations, agreed to join the BRICS economic bloc, which is largely controlled by China and Russia.

We know that BRICS is working on a new currency meant to undermine the influence of the dollar

in the East, Middle East, and Africa.

We also know Iran is working directly with Russia to develop a gold-backed stable coin, a cryptocurrency, that can be traded without burden of swift regulations and controls.

So that's cutting America out of all of it.

So with all of these new economic ties in place,

it seems hard to imagine that Iran would want to shake things up.

I mean, wouldn't it benefit immensely from expanded economic relations with Russia and China?

And wouldn't it have far more influence in BRICS than it ever would with Western economies?

Why would they do this all on their own without the support of their new allies?

We know that Hamas would never do this without Iran.

Well, now they have all of these new allies.

They don't want to be a pariah.

Would they do this on their own?

My guess is they wouldn't.

This must somehow fit with Russia and China's plan for the future as well.

This brings me to what I have felt for a while while now, that we are in the early stages of a coordinated global war.

Iran, Russia, China, and other nations appear to be working in concert to establish a rival to the dominance of the West.

All of them have old scores to settle.

They're all settling them right now.

Russia wanted war with Ukraine, so it invaded in 2022.

Iran wants to spark a war in the Middle East against Israel and force other Muslim nations to reverse course on their peaceful agreements with the United States and, in some cases, Israel.

So, it has launched a proxy war through the Palestinians this month.

China wants to be the next great global superpower.

We know it wants to retake Taiwan, which could be coming soon.

Even if it doesn't, China's fear of influence is growing because of everything that is occurring in Ukraine and now Israel.

I don't think this could be understated.

This is all straight from Alexander Dugan's playbook.

Through chaos comes the birth of a new world order.

A new world order with Russia, China, Iran, Turkey, and other capital T traditionalists leading the charge.

Again, I'm not saying he's the mastermind.

But I do think his strategies and philosophies have at the very least infected the highest levels of leadership among the new Axis power?

I'm going to tell you what Dugin has been doing

starting just a couple of months before Russia invaded Ukraine and where he has been

coming up later on in the program.

Also, Vivek Ramaswamy joins us.

Where does he stand on

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You know, the president's going to speak on

what happened in Israel today.

At some point, he's supposed to come out of his coma.

Yeah, I heard it's around noon, which is after his normal lid.

Yeah.

That was 1146 yesterday, so this is really, he's really stretching for Israel here.

This is crazy.

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Yes.

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you know, we've had bad presidents before, but this guy is,

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How does a president have kidnapped Americans, Americans who have been killed by Hamas, and not come out and speak on that?

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No one ever said Joe Biden knew what he was doing with the economy.

No one ever said Joe Biden knew what he was doing with cultural cultural issues.

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expertise, normalcy, and expertise to a situation to reverse the chaos of the Trump era.

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Israel strikes as hostages hang in the balance and we haven't seen hide nor hair of the president.

He's supposed to speak on this today.

I mean, don't rush.

No real rush on that one.

Vivek Ramaswamy is running for president and

I wanted to ask him some tough questions on this.

What is his take on it?

And what would he do as president of the United States?

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Vivek, are you there?

Hey, how are you?

Good morning.

Doing well.

So

you know me.

I will, I mean, I'll ask you the tough questions.

So let me start with the toughest question here.

It's all downhill from here.

You are

Hindu by upbringing.

I think you're still Hindu.

You personally were, you went to school in a Catholic school,

so you understand Judeo-Christian values and the meaning of the West.

However,

you're first generation and you are not that.

Do you understand, truly understand the importance of Israel, the role it plays in the Judeo-Christian world and all of the prophecies?

Go ahead.

Of course, Glenn.

Yes.

And I have, you know, having gone to Catholic schools, but also read the Bible perhaps more closely than even many of my Jewish and Christian friends alike, understand

the special importance of Israel.

I have been to the holy sites in Jerusalem.

Some of my first business partners have been in Israel.

Some of my closest relationships are and have been in Israel.

And one of the reasons why, Glenn, is that Israelis and I get along really well is we share something in common.

We're very candid.

For anybody who knows Israel or Israelis, they're a candid people.

And so am I, Glenn, as you and I know each other too.

That's the basis for true friendship.

So, no, I don't recite GOP talking points handed down from super PACs in a binder and read chapter and verse.

I am candid.

And I think that's why our relationship with Israel will be stronger by the end of my first term than it ever has been, because it will be based on honesty and true friendship, not reciting slogans or a transactional relationship.

And I do think that that informs where my views are right now versus some of the histrionics you're seeing from other candidates hysterically shouting, finish them, finish them, without any iota of description of what that means from the likes of Nikki Haley or others.

I think we now have to take a level-headed approach to how we support Israel in being able to engage in its own self-defense while also diplomatically diplomatically leading the way here to avoid a broader all-out regional war in the Middle East.

That's the responsibility of the U.S.

commander-in-chief to look after U.S.

interests.

So

let's go there because I, for one, don't ever want to hear the words two-state solution ever again.

If you believe in a two-state solution, you're a moron.

They do not want a solution.

They want a final solution, and that is very clear.

And not only are you a moron now, Glenn, you were a moron if you thought that at the time of the Oslo Accords, which were a disaster then as they are now.

The Biden administration repeatedly granting legitimacy to the Palestinian Authority.

Mahmoud Abbas in the 18th year of a four-year term, and now Hamas revealing itself to be a modern version of al-Qaeda, maybe closer to ISIS.

Absolutely, this has been jargon that needs to leave the lexicon for get a two-state solution.

I agree with that.

So what do you do?

Because nobody wants the Palestinians.

Oh, they all cry a good cry, but you go to every single Arab state and none of them will take a single refugee.

So what do you do if you're Israel?

And what do you do as president of the United States?

Well, that's the second question that I'm more focused on.

The first question is, that's an Israeli decision, Glenn.

That's a tough question.

Israel for a long time.

has had reluctance to take responsibility for Gazans as well.

And that's a tough choice.

And BB is going to have to lead the way.

And I think it's the job of the U.S.

to support Israel in the decision that it makes in its own national self-determination.

I am running for President of the United States, though, and I think that the job of the U.S.

President, he has a moral obligation to look after what advances U.S.

interests.

And so what I would be doing as U.S.

President is offering Israel every bit of intelligence support we can, every bit of diplomatic support we can, that includes telling the U.N.

that there will be consequences of our participation in the UN if the UN continues its historical pattern of drawing this false equivalence between Israel and the terrorists who target it.

I think it's a lot of people don't know this, Glenn.

We don't even have an American ambassador to Israel right now.

We have to immediately confirm an ambassador to Israel, as well as other vacant positions in Egypt, in Lebanon, in Kuwait.

I think in Oman, we're even vacant now.

That's basic things that we can do as the US, diplomatically and otherwise, deport anybody who's who's a resident alien, legally or illegally in this country, who has served with Hamas, who has served in other similar terrorist organizations, extradite them to Israeli custody.

This is the kind of thing that the U.S.

needs to be doing, leading diplomatically while allowing Israel to engage in its defense of its own national existence, which Israel has the right to do.

while at the same time keeping in mind that an all-out war in the Middle East involving, God forbid, U.S.

troops or whatever, that should be off the table.

And I think that we should lead diplomatically to prevent us from getting there.

That's the kind of cool-headed response that we need.

And I'm disappointed, Glenn, and many other Republicans who are just knee-jerk reacting.

And, you know, I think it's unbecoming of the likes of Nikki Haley to equate this with an attack on the U.S.

This was a dastardly attack on Israel itself.

That's bad enough, and we need to be able to see that for what it is and respond forcefully and accordingly.

But to go histrionic on this and escalate possibly to a broader regional war in the Middle East when that does not advance our national interests, that's not the job of the U.S.

President.

The job of the U.S.

President is to lead in a way that advances American interests and Israel is our ally, so we will stand with them.

But we have to have a thoughtful response that avoids a misstep in these early days that could have drastic consequences as we have learned from mistakes this foreign policy establishment has made from Iraq to Afghanistan over the last 25 years.

And that will not happen on my watch.

All right.

So do you have a problem with her saying this is Israel's 9-11?

No, I think this is Israel's 9-11.

I think that this is absolutely

a major issue in Israel.

But one of the things that, one of the lessons we have to learn is that, you know what, Osama bin Laden was probably laughing and smiling in his grave, as a friend of mine said yesterday, when the U.S.

made a disastrous response to 9-11 by entering places like Iraq in wars that did not advance American interests.

And so I would encourage Israel, and I would, as the U.S.

Commander-in-Chief, lead us the same way, to have the right response to deal with the conflict at hand, to make sure Israel comes out with its national identity and national borders fully intact and is protected to the fullest, but without being drawn into a broader regional war in the Middle East, which does not advance anyone's interests, including American interests.

And these are difficult times.

It's easy for someone today to look back and criticize the Iraq war.

I criticized it then.

I criticize it now, but that's now a popular idea.

But the harder part is to learn that lesson in the present and make sure that you don't make the mistake in the heat of the moment to do the same thing.

So fortitude, standing with Israel, absolutely.

But diplomatically leading the way to make sure that we don't enmesh ourselves in another ground war in the Middle East, that also has to be a top priority of the U.S.

president.

And I will lead accordingly.

Let me just see if I understand.

You're saying don't go into Iran.

That's right.

I do not think we should.

Well, I think that's Israel's decision.

So I think that's Israel's decision.

I think we have to be very careful, Glenn.

And we have to respect decisions that Israel makes to defend its own national boundaries and its own national existence.

That is Israel's right to do.

And we have to diplomatically support them, first of all, in regaining control of their own lost territories.

Second of all, whatever they decide to do with Hamas and Gaza, that's been a fraught question in Israel.

That's Israel's decision to make, and it is our job as a friend of Israel to support them in it.

But I think that we also have to be clear-eyed about I'm saying right now what other GOP candidates, when asked, have refused to do.

I think we have to take the idea of U.S.

ground troops involved in a war in Iran off the table.

That much I think we have to be clear about.

And also, we have to be clear about leading diplomatically in a way that, yes, supports Israel, but avoids broader all-out conflict in the Middle East.

I'll give you a very specific example of what that means.

We should end nuclear proliferation, including the phase-out of Iran's nuclear program, absolutely.

But the Biden administration's disastrous discussion to begin sharing nuclear technology with Saudi Arabia, that needs to end too.

And so these are things that other people aren't talking about, but I think it is the job of a judicious, cool-headed president of the United States to look after our interests in making sure that we avoid full-scale, all-out regional war in the Middle East.

We've had that in the past, and that's not good for us, and it's not good for the world.

But at the same time, we have to be unwavering in our support for the decisions that Israel makes to defend its own national homeland as it has the full right to do against these barbaric and medieval attacks on Israel.

Do you believe Russia at least gave permission for this?

I mean, we know that Hamas is run by Iran.

Iran is now in a very tight relationship with Russia.

Do you believe this is any kind of

trying to pull us all into a new world war?

I don't think that painting Russia as the boogeyman here is credible, even though Vladimir Zelensky is trying to do it because that's in his self-interest to chain gang the US into the Ukraine war versus Russia.

The reality I think is a little bit different in the relationship between the Ukraine situation and Israel.

Take a look at earlier this year when the U.S.

was called on to have Israel send artillery from Israel to Ukraine.

Well now that looks like a pretty boneheaded decision in reverse.

The U.S.

is running low on our own stockpiles.

So we're going to have to make the choices about Ukraine versus Israel Israel versus other parts of the world.

Nobody, Glenn, in the race certainly is talking about what's happening in Azerbaijan and Armenia.

There is going to get to good and evil.

That is wrong, what is happening in Armenia to a bunch of Christians who have been displaced to the tune of 100, 120,000 in a semi-autonomous region that Azerbaijan invaded, but you don't hear a peep about that.

Why?

Because Azerbaijan and Ukraine have special lobbies in Washington, D.C., and that's how the wheels turn in D.C.

today.

Whichever special interest lobbies get the win, they're the ones that shape the narrative.

So it will take an outsider like me, a leader from a different generation who isn't captured by the super PACs, to be able to speak this truth in the open.

Talked about it with Tucker yesterday, but I'm the only Republican candidate, Glenn, who's seemingly able to offer what I think is a clear-headed, rational response to, on one hand, strongly stand behind Israel's ability to defend itself as it should, as it has the right to, but with a level-headedness that says that we still have to look after American interests and not seeing full-scale war either in the Middle East or in the Ukraine situation being chain ganged into a war that I, in Ukraine, believe does not advance national interests,

getting us closer to major conflict with a nuclear power.

By the way, one of the lessons from the Israel conflict is, when we're vulnerable right here at home, that was a gaping intelligence failure and military defense failure in Israel.

And U.S.

intelligence is partly to blame for that, too.

We have to understand what the heck went wrong there now.

That's not a question for later.

That is a question for right now.

Everybody else seems to think it's a question for later.

If the black box of a crashed plane is recovered, you don't hand it over to the people and the airliner who flew that plane.

Somebody else has to look at that and figure out what exactly happened before we make even poorer decisions.

And I think if there's one positive reminder for the United States, it's that if that can happen to Israel, it can happen right here at home, where we are badly vulnerable.

All right.

Hold on, Vivek.

I'm going to take a one-minute break.

And then when we come back, I'm going to ask you, you're president of the United States, what do you do about the hostages?

And new border patrol data has come out.

This year alone, 151 on the FBI's terrorist watch list have been caught at our southern border.

You know, Hamas or Hezbollah or any of those guys are here now.

What as president would you do about the terrorists and who's already here, assuming you just closed the border.

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I can't imagine

Hamas doing what they've already done, but now they're saying they're going to execute people on social media

if Israel continues to go in.

Israel is not going to stop.

We haven't heard from the president really at all on this subject.

He's supposed to speak sometime before Nappy Nap

and tell us, I guess, what his plan is.

What would your plan be, Vivek Ramaswamy, if you were president to deal with the hostages?

So look, as U.S.

President, a part of the America First Agenda to me, Glenn, is it includes all Americans, no American left behind.

So we will prioritize getting those American hostages out of there.

And the limited circumstance in which we would use U.S.

resources directly to do it is to recover our own hostages if that's what's actually necessary, special forces or otherwise, for American hostages.

That's what the America First Agenda is all about.

The U.S.

President needs to look after the interests of Americans.

But broadly speaking, the other way we advance American interests here is let Israel make the decisions it needs to make to defend its own borders while avoiding full-scale all-out war in the Middle East.

And I think there's not enough times I can say that at a time like this, when people have made our worst decisions in our foreign policy disasters in history, it's as a knee-jerk reaction to something legitimately bad that was done by a terrorist on the other side.

This is especially the moment to be really clear about our principles for why we're doing what we're doing.

And so that's how I would lead.

Okay, we have 90 seconds left, and I want to talk to you about the number of people that have been arrested on the FBI's terror watch list.

We have about 250 of them, 275 of them, that we have caught since the beginning of the Biden administration.

That's not the ones we didn't catch.

Are you worried at all about these

possible terrorist cells that are here coming across from our border?

And how would you solve that?

I'm very worried about it, Glenn.

I think it's a real concern.

Just a few days ago, I was at the northern border where nobody else has actually visited.

And that is wide open.

To call that porous is an understatement.

That's where the next frontier is going.

A Brazilian ex-military murderer has come in through, you know, who caught in northern New Hampshire and otherwise.

This is a great risk.

So seal the border.

Use our military to do it.

But for the people who are already here, I would fast track the deportation of anybody who's in this country who has served or been affiliated with Hamas or the Palestinian Islamic Jihad or otherwise, including extradition to Israeli custody where that's appropriate in

light of this crisis.

And for the rest of them, get them the heck out and put them through our own justice system, bringing the highest penalties of the highest order while sealing our border.

That is how we actually drive this change.

And the best border policy of all is stop making it so easy to get into this country by abuse of our asylum laws.

It's going to take a president with the spine to lead that way.

But the good news, Glenn, is that this is a solvable problem.

The country that put a man on the moon, yes, this is a logistically solvable problem.

This is just a question of political will.

And I do think it will take somebody with a spine as an outsider understanding that we are in the middle of this dangerous approach to war right here on our home turf to be able to put that to an end.

Vivek, thank you very much.

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There are a few things that are happening that are very,

very

important.

First of all,

if you want to understand what's happening with Hamas

and how did these people become

ISIS, I mean, beheading people with garden hose, taking the hostages and taking their phones and then opening up their social media, live streaming and then executing them.

This

is an act of evil.

And when Hamas said yesterday that they had completed,

they're ready for a ceasefire because they had completed their mission.

What was their mission?

To kidnap and kill innocent civilians?

The answer is yes.

So I want to talk to you.

I started mentioning Alexander Dugan last hour, and that

I'm not saying he's orchestrating this, but

his philosophy is being executed right now.

This is all straight from his playbook.

Through chaos comes a rebirth of a new world order, with Russia, China, Iran, Turkey, and other capital T traditionalists leading the charge.

Through chaos.

What do the Twelvers in Iran believe?

That through chaos they will hasten the return of the Promised One.

Dugan believes through chaos there will be a new world order.

Now, I'm not saying that he is the mastermind.

That is so important for you to hear.

But I do think his strategies and philosophies have at the very least infected the highest levels of leadership among the new Axis powers.

Just months before Russia invaded Ukraine, Dugin published a short book called The Great Awakening versus the Great Reset.

In it, Dugan says the only way to beat the Great Reset and the rise of radical globalism is to establish a multipolar world where a series of traditionalist empires rule over the respected parts of the globe without interference from Western powers.

So you understand when he says traditionalists, it's not like I'm for the traditional family.

He is talking about traditions prior to the Enlightenment,

that kind of traditionalist, Dark Ages traditionalism.

Dugan specifically mentions the need for a Russian imperial renaissance, and he has openly called on Putin to recapture Ukraine on numerous occasions.

The book also talks about a need for a traditionalist Middle Eastern power to rise up and expelled Western influences from the region.

This is obvious allusion to Israel.

He specifically mentions Iran as one of the two Islamic leaders against the Great Reset.

The other one is Turkey.

Now, we already know that Dugin had huge levels of influence in Russia.

He's Putin's brain, according to many analysts.

But Dugin has also been openly courting Iran and has long been an influential figure in Iran as well.

In 2017, an article notes, according to Dugin, and I'm quoting, he has been in and out of Iran for the last 20 years, and for at least the last eight years, Iran's conservative principlist media have been busy promoting him as a powerful intellectual force.

The article further asserts, Iranian hardliners love to quote Dugin.

In recent years, still quoting, Dugin has been invited to visit Iran regularly, usually by hardliners and entities associated with the revolutionary guards, such as the newspaper Javan and the state-run Horizon television channel and Raja News.

Earlier this year, Dugan was also a key figure in a Russian event commemorating the birth of the Islamic regime in Iran.

In September, Dugin celebrated Iran and Saudi Arabia joining BRICS as an extremely important event because, quoting, the Islamic Pole has finally joined this club.

He has been talking about this

moment in time for decades.

He views Iran as a central part of his now infamous Eurasia strategy.

For many years, he's been calling for the coalition of China, Iran, Russia, and Turkey and others to combat Europe, North America, and Israel to get Western forces from their lands.

This is exactly what is happening now.

Now, I doubt Dugan is secretly setting the agenda,

but I think his philosophy has been so widely adopted among the relevant parties that he might as well be in charge.

How can anyone deny at this point Russia, China, and now Iran are following Dugan's dangerous playbook of chaos?

I believe our White House follows the playbook in many ways of chaos.

Now I'm not the only one that thinks that Dugan is playing a key role in the current events.

In August, Dugan's daughter was murdered.

You remember this?

Her car exploded while she was driving in the Moscow region.

Dugan and his daughter had just attended a conference before the bombing, and they switched cars at the last minute.

The bomb, it seems, was meant for Alexander Dugan, not his daughter.

Now, does that happen to some harmless professor?

Is it the math professor that's after him?

The worst part of all of this is Dugan's plan does not end with Iran.

It gets worse.

More wars, more rumors of war, more chaos, more realigning of global superpowers, all until the West is crushed and the era of the traditionalist empire returns to glory.

I believe this is history's most dangerous moment since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

We must get our act together right now.

Or the rest of the world, the entire world, will soon find itself embroiled in yet another global war.

And I'm not sure we win the next one.

Also,

for those who do have the copy of the home game called the Bible,

Gog and Magog.

Why would Russia ever want to invade Israel?

Gog and Magog.

If you want to understand

those prophecies,

Gog and Magog.

Magog is one of the allies that will march

onto Jerusalem for the end-time battle.

And Magog will march with Gog,

which is Persia.

otherwise known as Iran.

Magog is Russia.

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Never in 2,500 years.

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They have just signed a billion-dollar accord for the sale of missiles.

The Iranians have helped the Russians by providing them with weaponized drones to use in the Ukraine war.

This is happening.

There's one other thing on this front that I should just mention.

Catholics and Protestants sometimes relish in the misfortunes of the other.

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Just last week, a video clip of Pope Francis surrounded by scantily clad circus performers made the round on social media.

People were saying, never too late to join the Reformation.

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The Vatican's synod on senility or

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But the real purpose and ambition of this synod, this conference, is to change the Catholic Church.

They are debating which direction they go.

This is also part of a Catholic prophecy about the end times that they will hold one giant synod and it will change the direction of the church and then the Pope goes to Russia

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What's happening here is happening in all of our lives.

We're being divided, divided and conquered.

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It's why we must stand together.

But we may not be able to do it in the traditional places.

Pope Francis, starting today, is having this conference on conferences.

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this conference of conferences.

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you don't bless gay marriage, but you can bless a gay couple in marriage.

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he's changing the doctrine, which he cannot do, without changing the doctrine.

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Hello, America.

I want to give you a piece of information that I received from one of my researchers last Thursday.

And I haven't had a chance to talk about it because of the Israeli war that is going on now.

But last Thursday, towards the end of that show, I received this from one of my researchers.

Glenn, the U.S.

just added another $33 billion of debt in one day,

and it was yesterday, bringing the two-day total to $308 billion.

The U.S.

has added another $500 billion in debt.

That is an average of $1.4 billion per hour for the last 15 straight days.

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Debt to GPGDP is back above 120%.

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debt within a month.

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That was Thursday.

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What's coming our way?

What do you do to survive?

In 60 seconds, Carol Roth joins us.

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Carol Roth, how are you?

Um, well, I am angry.

I am disturbed.

I am devastated.

I feel like somebody has punched me in the gut and in the heart.

And I'm having a very hard time wrapping my head around what I thought was supposed to be humanity.

So that's how I am, Glenn.

It is almost word for word what my daughter said to me last night.

She said,

there are no good people, Dad.

And I said, yes, there are.

You just don't see them all the time.

But it is,

I just don't.

Can I ask you?

I know you're more of an economic person, but...

What do you think is coming, Carol?

I mean, it's very difficult to sort of wrap your head around what is coming.

I mean this is obviously a conflict that has gone on for so long and there are

actors that are behind the scenes, big countries like Iran that feel emboldened because we have weak leadership in the U.S.

that decided that they were going to ease up on sanctions and, you know, send them back $6 billion on 9-11 and whatnot.

And they feel emboldened that they can cause chaos and terror, not just in Israel, but around the world.

I'm very concerned that because we have seen people cheering on terrorism, cheering on the beheading of babies, the raping of children,

the killing of the elderly, that anybody is who is inclined to think that way, that has maybe been hiding in the shadows, is going, oh, we're going to be celebrated now if we do these kinds of things.

And so the spillover effect,

I don't think that this is just limited to what's happening in the Middle East.

I'm very, very worried and nervous about what that means around the world, not just for the Jewish people, but for everybody.

You were seeing the same kind of thing happening in Azerbaijan.

Yeah.

Where they're liquidating people.

And by the way, we've not revealed this before, and I'm not going to get any details.

But just so you know, the Nazarene Fund is there

to help get people out of that area.

And there were lots of calls, and I think we're meeting today on what we can do and help in Israel for some people that are trapped and need to get out.

So

let's talk about the condition of America as we look at a possible global war.

I mean, that's what Iran wants.

I mean, this is the moment I've talked about for years.

At some point, in not necessarily coordinated, but I do believe this is probably coordinated.

Our enemies will all see us weak and go now, now, now.

And what's happening to us is what we did to the former Soviet Union.

Yeah, I mean, it's true.

and this has been something that we've been talking about, is that, you know, not just having the weakness from a, you know, a quote-unquote leadership standpoint, but the weakness in our financial position, the weakness in our balance sheet, you know, I think there is a desire to see if we can get drawn into more conflicts and to, frankly, bankrupt us.

And we cannot afford to do that.

I mean,

we have basically an emerging market in crisis balance sheet.

We have a balance sheet where debt to GDP, as you were saying at the top of the segment, is back up again above 120 percent.

The only reason we haven't had a currency crisis is because we have the World Reserve currency.

But as you see the alignment of these different nations that are all hoping that we go in the other direction, I don't think it's coincidental.

One thing that I have not heard in the media that I've been very keyed into, as we have talked about in the past, is we had that BRICS meeting,

that group of emerging nations that was Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.

And that was in August.

We were expecting them to come out potentially with a new currency.

But what they did instead is they expanded their membership.

And if you remember, that three of the key names that they added were Saudi Arabia, Iran, and the UAE.

And bringing them into that fold with that group of people who are trying to get rid of the dollar as the reserve currency, trying to see the U.S.

weakened on all fronts, you know, militarily and economically.

This is not a coincidence in timing.

August is the same time that it's been reported that there was a planning between Iran and these militant terrorist groups.

So the fact that that's when this invitation was extended and now they're part of this alliance, I don't think enough people are paying attention to that fact.

Can I bring up something that I don't know if I understand?

And we're going to get wonky here for a second, but believe me,

this is really important to understand.

Sure.

There is.

I read an article last week.

You know, the idea of raising interest rates is to pull back the money that has been printed.

And the money that they pull back is called the M2 money supply.

That's the money that you have in your pocket.

That's the money that you have in your savings account,

the money that you have in your banking account that you write checks with.

It's the...

the closest thing to cash that you can get.

It's not just in your house.

It's also somewhat in in your banks.

And that number

was way, way

inflated.

And that's when everybody was saying, oh, American people have more money than they've ever had before.

We look at that number now, and that number has crashed.

And that should bring inflation down.

But we're seeing something.

We're seeing inflation not going down.

We're seeing it still going up, even though the money supply has crashed.

This hasn't happened since the Great Depression.

What does this mean?

So I've been arguing with my monetarist friends about this.

You know, they always say that, and this came up from Milton Friedman.

Again, we're getting super wonky here that inflation is purely a function of the money supply.

And there were a number of different things, though, that happened all at the same time.

So yes, we did have 15 years of this incredible inflation of the money supply.

First, that went to Wall Street that inflated asset prices.

Then, it came to individuals in the form of direct stimulus, and that's really when we saw inflation go crazy.

But there are other things that have been in play here, too.

There's been supply-demand imbalances that have been caused starting with the COVID shutdowns and then kind of continuing on the back of a lot of bad policy.

But we have issues around energy, right, the energy policy of the Biden administration.

We have issues around labor, not enough labor in the labor market.

We have housing imbalance.

We had supply chain issues.

So all of those issues also factor in to the

inflationary scenario that we are seeing.

And yes, we have seen the Fed pull back some of the money and have

had that that kind of come off of

their balance sheet in some regard, but there is still a lot of money out there.

And also, just because somebody doesn't have it in it is considered M2, that yet sort of cash available equivalent, doesn't mean that they haven't kind of put that somewhere else.

So, you know, all of these factors, I know monetarists are going, no, no, it's just money and the velocity of money, but I think we have to look at the unusual picture that we are in, and that's part of what is accounting for this ongoing inflation.

So we I just saw that the Federal Reserve today in Dallas is saying that we don't have to refill the strategic oil reserve.

No, I mean, we're on the brink of World War III.

Why would we want to have a strategic oil reserve, especially when the middle of the conflict is the Middle East?

That makes absolutely no sense, Glenn.

I mean, the things that come out of these people's mouths.

Again, these are the same people who told us that there would be no inflation and that inflation would be transitory and whatnot.

But that's the whole point.

That's why having a stunt like releasing oil from the strategic reserve was so dangerous because it puts us in this depleted position, and we are in a historically depleted position that we haven't seen in quite some time, on the brink of potentially a conflict that could spill over from the Middle East.

We need that for those types of emergency situations, not for a political stunt, not to save Biden from his disastrous policies.

And people should be up in arms about this.

And unfortunately, there are so many things to be up in arms about, and people are struggling just to get by with the daily cost of living that they just don't know what to do.

I think everybody is exhausted and beaten down by everything that's happened.

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I don't know how many points we have added to that, but we may be adding more.

Have we reissued any of that debt or is any of that coming up to be reissued now?

It is.

You were talking earlier about why it is that we're adding so much debt.

And there are a number of things that have gone on since we had that debt ceiling fight and they

removed the debt ceiling temporarily or whatever you want to call it.

But there are a few things I think people need to understand.

One is that there is a sort of think of it as a checking account for the government, their operating account.

It's called the TGA, the Treasury General Fund.

And that was something that, because they were trying to move things around and they couldn't write checks because because they had reached the debt ceiling, needed to be refilled.

So at that point, for the stub period of the year, Deutsche Bank estimated that about $1.3 trillion in additional debt needed to be issued just to fill that back up.

And then obviously we have a massive deficit that needs to be funded on an ongoing basis.

And then, as you said, in terms of what needs to be refinanced, about $7.6 trillion,

just under a third of our outstanding debt, needs to be refinanced within the next 12 months.

And that's debt that I think

has rates probably with a one handle on them.

So yeah, that's hundreds of basis points difference, which is several percentage points.

Every 100 basis points is 1%.

So we're talking several percentage points that they're going to need to be refinancing it.

These geniuses at Treasury, for some reason, didn't take advantage of these low, low rates and lock them in for 30 years or whatnot.

So now we have

a third of the debt that's going to need to be financed at these much higher rates, adding hundreds of billions of dollars of additional interest expense.

And here's what happens.

Let me teach you a new phrase that a lot of you guys probably haven't heard who are listening.

It's something called fiscal dominance.

And fiscal dominance is sort of what it sounds like.

It's when the fiscal policy comes to dominate the monetary policy, which in sort of any time is somewhat neutral.

But in our particular case, we have the monetary policy is trying to kill inflation.

Well, what's happening with fiscal policy is because they're running these huge deficits that need to be financed, they have to finance that, put in more debt, and that is driving interest rates up.

And that means that every piece of new debt or any refinancing we do is at higher interest rates, and then that goes back and increases the deficit.

And then what do they have to do?

They have to issue more debt, and then it increases interest rates.

So you get this spiral, this loop, and that could in and of itself be part of an issue that sustains inflation long term.

And so that's what many economists are worried about right now is this fiscal dominance, this possible debt spiral.

Because the other thing that's very unusual, Glenn, is that the level of deficits that we have, it's historically like

unheard of that you would have these types of deficits in a point in time when the economy is still quote unquote expanding.

We're not growing at a huge rate, but we're not in a recession.

Usually this would be the type of deficit you would run when things were really, really bad and the economy was contracting.

So the fact that they're continuing to spend at these levels, and then we have to finance that when they're still taking in massive tax receipts and when you still have expansion, again, historically unheard of and not historical in a good way.

Can I ask you to come back tomorrow, Carol?

Because I want to ask you, what happens to our debt if we would go to war?

I can't imagine

what happens to our debt.

What does that mean to the dollar?

What does that mean to everybody's life?

And then what should people do to prepare for that?

We'll talk to you tomorrow if you can make it.

Can you, do you know your schedule?

I will accept your invitation.

Okay, all right.

We'll see you tomorrow.

Thanks so much, Carol.

Same time tomorrow:

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I want you to hear this from an Israeli

describing what he saw on Facebook.

Cut two, please.

We got my aunt

called my mom

frantically.

Open Facebook.

Open Facebook.

Mom couldn't

open it at all.

She was trembling.

I opened it

from my phone, and I saw like

the worst

possibly imagine my grandma on

the floor of her house

being murdered

in a video,

the entire floor

covered in blood,

my grandmother lying,

just lying there.

The terrorist took her private phone, filmed her,

and uploaded it to her private Facebook wall.

That's how we found out.

That's how we learned out.

We learned about it.

We screamed at the top of our lungs.

Everyone here just lost it.

We screamed and screamed.

It's the most horrible thing

I could ever imagine.

Couldn't imagine running this through my head.

It just

doesn't.

Anything now.

Good God Almighty.

Okay, so I want you to hear that.

I want you to hear that.

These people,

anyone who is telling you that

Israel should back off,

should we have backed off ISIS?

Should we have backed off ISIS, kidnapping people, raping them,

keeping them as

rapable women

over and over and over again.

Executing people, cutting their heads off, putting them in cages, putting them in the pool, setting them on fire in cages, keeping children now in cages.

I thought AOC had problems with the cages at the border.

Have you seen this?

These are not people that want a homeland.

These are people that want to kill all Jews.

They say it.

Not me.

I don't have to put words in their mouth.

They say it.

It's time, America, to wake back up and see things for how they really are.

Do you see that the LGBT community is now telling lesbians that they have to embrace the female penis?

Excuse me?

That men are women too?

Lesbians now have to embrace that.

Ah,

okay.

It is time to wake up from the insanity and see how things really, truly are.

I'm sorry, life is tough.

Life is tough, but you can't live in a dreamland.

You have to recognize life for what it is.

And you may not like that, and you may not want to look at it that way, but you must if you're going to survive.

Imagine if I said we should deprogram all of these people or we have to round them up.

Because, what is it, 98%, 97%, let's just be safe, uber safe.

90%

of everybody who is Palestinian that lives in Gaza, they say that it is okay.

to behead people, to pull off these terrorist attacks, to do the things that they've just done, put on Facebook.

Why would you do that?

To create terror and hatred,

that that's okay

against the Jews.

90%.

How do you coexist with that?

Well, if you're Israel, you certainly don't.

How do you coexist with those people?

If I said round them up, and then the ones we can save, we can deprogram, can you imagine what the world would say?

Except the biggest problem here in America, least according to Hillary Clinton, is the Trump voter.

We should round them up.

The DOJ is already making a list

and we need to deprogram them.

Imagine seeing what we saw yesterday, which, or this weekend, which is destabilizing the entire world.

What you're seeing here is a vacuum of power.

What you're looking at when you're looking at the news is the future.

As America grows weaker, all of these things that have been simmering, but because of our power, we've been able to say, sit down, knock it off.

All of that is going to come to the surface.

What you're seeing is a world in chaos, which is exactly what people on the left all over the world want, chaos, to be able to heat the world up and to shape it closer to their heart's desire.

Anybody who says two-state solution,

you should respond, yes, and lesbians should

embrace their female penis

because nothing makes sense anymore.

Can you imagine being a former Pentagon spokesperson, and while this is going on, war in Ukraine, the threat of nuclear war, one of Russia's allies, Iran, gives the go-ahead to Hamas and they slaughter people online.

Can you imagine

somebody coming out and saying this, cut eight.

Sorry, cut seven, cut seven.

Given all the nuclear players in these two areas where we are now engaged, does the president stand by that comment?

Absolutely, he does.

Climate change is an existential threat.

It could, you know, it actually threatens and is capable of wiping out all human life on Earth over time.

I mean, that's, I don't know how more existential you can get to that, but that doesn't mean that we walk away from our obligations, our national security interests, in very dangerous parts of the world.

He said it was more frightening than a nuclear war.

Is that it's more frightening than a nuclear war in this moment?

The president believes wholeheartedly that climate change is an existential threat to all of human life on the planet.

That's just science.

That's a fact, Martha.

But it doesn't mean that we turn our back on the other challenges facing this country and our allies and partners around the world.

Yeah, what a terrible job that must be to try to have to just go on on TV every day and just lie, know you're lying, but they still have the power.

They're implementing those policies that follow that nuclear war is less of a threat than climate change.

I don't know if the president knows this, but

the bombs are a little warmer than, you know, 0.5 or 0.1 Celsius.

They're a little warmer.

Are they?

Yeah.

That's that's science too?

Yeah, that's science.

They would destroy the ecosystem all over the world.

But here's here's why they say this.

Because they are anti-human.

They are.

They are anti-human.

They would rather reduce the population through nuclear war if that was the case, because there would be less humans on the planet and that would long-term be better for the environment.

Now I know that's horrible to say, but that's the only explanation I can come up with.

Because they are trying to reduce the population.

They think that's the way to go.

This is a death cult.

It's honestly why the president is looking at this in Israel.

And I don't know.

Sleeping?

What is he doing?

What is he doing?

He had a barbecue.

Yeah, he had a nice barbecue.

He had a barbecue.

And then they didn't tell him for 12 hours.

that it happened.

And then he called a lid at 1146 a.m.

yesterday.

So in case you were wondering, that's a three-pronged attack

on this problem from our president.

Here's the UN yesterday, cut six.

On behalf of the OIC member states, we express our deep concerns over the loss of innocent lives in the occupied Palestinian territory and elsewhere.

And elsewhere.

Regrettably, this huge loss of lives and unabated violence is a sad reminder of more than seven decades of illegal foreign occupation, aggression, and disrespect for international law, including UNSC resolutions.

The 16 years of illegal blockade of Gaza continues to raise questions over the applicability of international law and fundamental freedoms to the innocent civilian population.

Efforts to normalize and perpetuate illegal foreign occupation is breathing violence.

We call on all parties to exercise restraint and honor the human rights obligations.

In this context, the so-called declaration of war and attacks on civilian population and their properties is deeply distressing.

We remain concerned about the human cost of the escalating situation.

Yeah.

How many millions did Pakistan kill when?

Well, let me look that up before I get into that.

Because nobody seems to have a problem with Pakistan ever.

Nobody seems to have a problem with anybody just offing all kinds of people.

Nobody seems to have a problem with Egypt saying, we don't want the Palestinians.

Jordan,

they won't, these people have lived in Jordan

going on the second generation, and they're not Jordanians.

They're still Palestinians.

Why?

Nobody wants these people.

And why is that?

We open our doors to people.

Hell, we blow the side of the house off so people can come in.

Give us your tired, you're poor, you're huddled.

Not over in the Middle East.

They're not welcoming them in, they're fencing them off.

You think, really, Israel's the only one that has a gate and a fence around these people?

All of the Middle East fences them in.

See, really, honestly,

very few people actually care.

Very few people actually care.

I do.

I think you do.

I care about them,

and I care about the Israelis.

When it comes to the Palestinians, I deeply care about what has happened to them.

However, their history doesn't allow me to

give as much sympathy

as the other side because

they have listened to evil and have embraced it in many cases.

Certainly, the leadership.

They don't care about those people.

The leadership of the Palestinian Liberation Organization,

the PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah, do you think they actually care about those people?

They are nothing but fodder.

They are human sacrifices and human shields.

You know, there's no excuse this time around.

Before Hitler did all that he did, he wrote about it in Mein Kampf.

It was out there.

People dismissed it.

Ah, he's just saying that.

How are you dismissing this?

You're seeing what they're doing just because they're Jews.

Don't buy into the bullcrap that this is because of occupation.

It's not.

This is coming from the Islamic fury that will destroy and kill every single Jew on the planet if they had their way.

It's time for our friends to wake up.

Wake up.

And it's time for you to say to your friends, you know what?

I can't talk about frivolous stuff anymore.

I'm sorry, I know you want to.

And life continues.

But if you don't wake up to what's going on in the world right now, if you don't see evil

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I mean, I'll always be your friend, but I got to go talk to other people because there's too much to do,

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Israel has the ability

to

do what they need to do if the

will leave them alone long enough.

They have a right to be secure and not have,

you know, the equivalent here in America would be 30,000 civilians beheaded, raped, and killed on camera.

That's what this is equivalent to here in America.

You imagine that?

A town of 30,000.

People come across the border and they just rape and pillage and kill, behead an entire town.

That's what this is.

Want an evil and destruction.

Israel

needs the space to do what they need to do for their own protection.

Meanwhile, we should pray.

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