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Okay,

well, today's going to be an interesting day.

We have got a few things.

First of all, the

kicking out of McCarthy, which I'm a little torn on.

Thank God.

Thank God somebody is standing up.

However, on the other hand, I don't see a plan.

And that makes me, oh, I don't know, a little nervous.

So we're going to talk about that.

Mark Levin is going to be joining us.

He's got a new book, Why the or the Democratic Party Hates America.

We're going to talk to him in about an hour from now.

Also, we have a couple of big breaking stories.

One of them is about January 6th.

January 6th,

we now can prove

that the hero cops actually perjured themselves on the stand, told a story that never happened, because we know when it was supposed to happen, according to their testimony, and we now know because our investigative journalist followed up on all of this and actually got access to the Capitol tapes, knew exactly what he was looking for, and

can prove, no,

that's not what happened.

In fact, one of you wasn't even there.

Wait until you hear this breaking story.

By the way, people went to prison for a very long time under the testimony that the FBI had to know was false.

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This one is

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How are you?

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That's good to hear.

Yeah, good to hear.

So,

well, let me start this the way I was going to start it after

hours of show prep.

There is a story out

about

Tim Ballard

and Operation OUR.

And

I am not going to comment on rumors.

And

I didn't know how to address this.

There were stories that were going around that there were these women

that

Tim,

what would you say?

Because there's nothing illegal charged in this.

I guess was just

on missions with and

broke

his marriage covenant with his wife.

And he has been all over

saying that he doesn't really know what the charges are.

He doesn't know who his accusers are.

And

none of the things that they say is true.

And for several days when it first broke,

I and

some others

were on the phone with Tim all the time.

All the time.

At 3 o'clock in the morning on...

Sunday morning, just a couple of weeks ago.

I'm on the phone trying to talk him down.

If this is true,

then you have something to worry about.

But you say this isn't true, so trust in God.

And

his story started to fall apart by Sunday.

And I came in on Monday, and I don't even know if I

said this on the air.

I doubt I did, but

I was so close to ending the show about 20 minutes in.

I looked at Stu in the first commercial break and I said, I can't do this because I don't know what's true anymore.

Because I had been friends with Tim Ballard for so long and I had felt completely duped.

And if I thought, if I don't know that about somebody who I'm close to, how can I possibly come on the air and tell people what is true?

I have no idea, obviously.

But I didn't want to say anything until we had facts.

And quite honestly, I don't trust anybody with facts.

I don't even trust me.

I didn't want to do the investigation on my own.

I'm not an investigative reporter.

And

I wanted something

that

you could read and come to the end and go, okay.

So hundreds of man hours in an investigative story, hundreds of man hours.

It has consumed much of the work at Blaze Media for the last two weeks.

And

it has consumed me waiting, waiting, waiting.

Last night I got the story, and it was supposed to be published, and I got it last night because I was going to share it with you.

And then we got a call

from attorneys.

Now,

this story

We checked with Tim Ballard.

We talked to, I believe, five different women that that are making these charges and OUR.

And the charges are pretty ugly.

And

we were hoping to publish on Monday, but we still couldn't get Tim to go on record.

And so we didn't feel it was right to just have charges and not

answers for that.

So we talked to everyone, and our goal was to be fair and honest.

And I think this is one of the fairest articles I've read in maybe 20 years.

It's because it's journalism.

That's what it is.

It's journalism.

It's not gotcha.

It's nothing.

It's journalism.

And it's simply looking for the truth.

You're saying we and our a lot.

Did you have anything to do with the actual journalism in the story?

I mean we because of Blaze Media.

Okay.

Okay.

You were

in the investigation.

No.

No.

And I didn't want anything to do with the investigation.

In fact,

when the story was handed, somebody reached out to me and said, the women want to tell their story.

They want to tell it to you.

And I'm like,

I'm too close to it.

I don't want.

No, because Tim's a friend.

Yeah.

He's been a friend for a long time.

And I was beginning to feel betrayed.

And I also, so I was torn.

I could either, my friendship could cloud it or the fact that I was starting to feel if I started to believe them maybe I would go too far right and you know slaughter and I didn't want to do either of those things okay I just want to know the truth that's all I want and so when they called I called it was passed on to Leon Wolf our news director and I said

to him and the the journalists beforehand.

I have nothing to do with this i just want you to know

we're co-workers

but don't think that you don't ever think well this is gonna bother glenn or this is gonna

nothing pursue the truth i don't care how it ends where it ends i just want to know the truth

So they did.

And my gosh, we bent over backwards to make sure we checked and double-checked and did all of the investigative stuff that we're supposed to do.

And I have opinions now because I've read the story.

But

I can't read the story to you now.

And I'll tell you why I think this happened.

Last night, late last night,

apparently the attorneys for the women called

and said, you can't publish this.

We didn't give permission.

And we're like,

yes, you did.

And it's all on tape.

And

they said, well, we haven't, you know, we're their attorneys.

We haven't given permission.

You know, like, sorry.

However,

we said we wouldn't run it because

we're not going to re-victimize people.

If

their story is true,

then I'm not going to be a part, and the Blaze media is not going to be a part, of re-victimizing people.

Here's what I think happened, and I'll give you two scenarios, but what I think happened

all through this story, these women were terrified.

Terrified.

I know I talked to

a guy who was an inside source,

and

he said he is so worried he's moving his family away

when this story breaks.

That's how terrified he is.

These women are not only terrified, because quite honestly, Tim Ballard

is known as a good guy.

He is liked by a lot of people.

He was a friend of mine.

I still consider him a friend,

but a friend, I think, who is gravely misguided and

needs

to change his ways.

With that being said,

I still could be wrong.

I wasn't there, but I have seen the text messages.

I have read the quotes and listened to the tape of the interviews.

And I will tell you,

I believe one side.

But I could be wrong.

And it brings me no joy to say this.

I found out about this with the attorneys after doing all of the show prep on it and everything else.

I found out about this,

what, 35 minutes ago,

that I couldn't share the actual story with you.

But

I will tell you that it is disturbing and

I would urge the women who are involved to call their attorney and give permission.

I know you're afraid.

But the truth sets you free.

Let the chips fall where they may.

This is an important

thing.

People are

so

wary

of anybody and anything anymore because

you wait and write a book.

You know, the world's on fire.

And I knew about it two and a half years ago, but I wrote a book to tell you about it.

They're so freaked out.

And this is one of the things the women are freaked out about as well: is Kavanaugh.

There are all kinds of people that make charges and they don't turn out to be true.

And all of these women didn't plan on telling their story.

It's that the story got out

because there's a lot of people involved.

And the story got out.

And then they felt like

we can't be framed as liars.

I mean, it's been an agonizing and very long two weeks for Blaze Media.

I urge them to call their attorney.

Today is the only day I will have time until next week.

to comment on it or to share the story.

I urge them to call their attorney and then Blaze Media and

release the story.

If you choose not to,

that's fine.

We don't have to, but we will abide by your decision.

But it's not good, gang.

And the reason I feel passionately about this, to find the truth and tell you, is because this one affects me deeply.

And there is no way I can be on the air and point a finger and say, justice, where is justice?

Where are the people in their own party?

Where are the people in

the news media?

You know why they don't report that?

Because they're all involved or they're all friends with each other and they won't stab each other in the back.

Truth is truth.

And if it means I have to say things I don't want to about somebody I consider a friend,

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Usually we look at each other and he's like, okay.

Certainly a personal moment for you, I think.

It's something you're trying to understand that has great personal significance.

And, you know, I,

as with all of these things, it's so hard to know what is true and what isn't.

And all you can do is try to cover it the most fair way possible and take your

personal feelings out of it.

And I think that's what you've tried to do, certainly.

I mean, you know, it's a difficult thing for anyone to accomplish, but I think that's what you've tried to do.

That's all you can do.

I don't want to be the one sitting.

I mean, nobody can.

I don't want to judge anybody.

And I hope I don't.

I don't judge.

I don't judge any man's soul, and I believe in redemption.

I mean, that's the sad part about all this.

This should have all just been covered, because there's nothing illegal charged.

This should have all just been covered with God.

You know,

oops, really bad mistake.

Sorry.

Then do your work to clean it up.

And, you know, God finds a way to use the worst stuff when you turn it over to him.

He makes, you know, lemonade out of lemons.

Please, just clean it up in your own life.

Okay,

another breaking news story and

the house without a speaker.

That's coming up next.

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So there's another story.

Can somebody check and see if this is up on the Blaze yet?

Is it up on the Blaze?

Because I got another breaking news.

I don't know if we're supposed to share this one yet.

Is it up?

Do you know?

Can I talk about this?

You can't talk about any of the stories you want to talk about.

That's the rule of the day.

It's kind of like a parlor trick to see if you can do a show without talking about any news.

Well,

Blaze Media has

got some things in our future, and

today is a good example of what's hopefully uh coming in a big way um it is time to make the media the the so-called mainstream media uh it is time for us to

have them react to us why are we keep why do we keep act reacting to a group of people who are obviously lying everybody in the country except for like 14 percent know that they're lying they don't trust them so why would we watch them and then um

you know react to them when nobody else is watching them

it's time to set the agenda ourself

and so we have gotten together with Steve Baker he is an investigative journalist and he has done months of work this is so expensive he's done months of work

And he has just released a story on Blaze Media, theblaze.com.

Did Pelosi's security chief perjure himself in Oathkeepers trial?

Now, this is something that we have known was coming for a while, those of us who work at Blaze Media, some of us.

But the story is more damning when you read it than even

I felt it was when some of the details were sketched out for me.

Let me give you the narrative here.

To prove that the Oath Keepers were were seditionists intent on overthrowing the U.S.

government and preventing the execution of the laws, federal prosecutors claimed that while inside the Capitol, members of the group were involved in a contentious interaction with law enforcement.

The incident supposedly took place in an unmistakable public area, the top of the stairs next to the Capitol Rotunda, also known as the small or mini rotunda or speaker's lobby.

Yet despite the fact that there are at least 1,700 cameras in and around the building and grounds and 41,000 hours of footage, many of which directly covered this well-traveled area, no direct video evidence of the alleged confrontation was ever presented to the jury.

That got our investigative reporter Steve Baker going, hmm.

Much of the video footage has been kept from the public defenders, no less than the public themselves.

So

the

people defending these guys couldn't even get access and say, let's see this.

At trial, this key piece of evidence purportedly proving the seditious intent of the oath keepers was based on accounts of two law enforcement officers.

Again, this is breaking news, investigative story.

You can find it at theblaze.com.

U.S.

Capitol Police Special Agent David Lazarus, a member of the Speaker Nancy Pelosi's Security Detail, testified that he passed by USCP officer Harry Dunn engaging with four oath keepers three or four times while he was evacuating staffers for Pelosi who were trapped in a locked office in her her chambers.

Lazarus went on to explain that he observed Dunn arguing with rioters, and during that exchange, he eventually found an opening through the rioters where he was able to rescue

11 or 12 of Pelosi's staffers.

During his sworn testimony under oath, Lazarus went into great detail about the problems he had getting through the crowd of rioters gathered at the top top of the stairwell where Dunn was having what became a much publicized interchange with the oath keepers.

Lazarus explained that one rioter asked, who are you?

Who are you?

And then according to the trial transcript, he testified.

And, you know, one attempted to, I had my lanyard on my with my ID on it, and one, they were videotaping and one attempted to pull at my ID.

It was kind of like they just grabbed it and I grabbed it back and looked and made sure it was still there.

And then I saw the opening.

So then I just kind of like walked fast to get into the office and check on the staff again.

That's a quote from the trial transcript.

Lazarus' detailed description of what took place, what Lazarus described as very

antagonistic, in the three or four times that he passed by.

This was a dramatic moment in the trial.

Quote, every time I interacted or came by, and yes, it was antagonistic.

This is what he said under direct questioning by the assistant of the United States Attorney

Alexandria Hughes.

Lazarus was even shown a short cell phone video clip of the four oath keepers standing in front of Dunn.

Quote: And are these the individuals you observed, the antagonistic conversation?

Yes.

At any point in these three or four interactions in this space, did you observe any sort,

anything but an antagonistic conversation?

That's correct.

Well, the problem Blaze Media and Scott Baker has found

is that none of that, not Scott Baker, I'm sorry, Steve Baker, none none of that actually

happened.

What?

This is now according to direct video evidence that the jury was never allowed to see.

Three Blaze media contributors, including this writer and the House Oversight Committee staffer, recently examined U.S.

Capitol CCTV video, which appears to prove conclusively that Special Agent Lazarus was not in that part of the Capitol at the time he claimed, but was in fact in the lower tunnels that led to the Senate office building, escorting senators away from the Capitol.

By analyzing the footage from multiple CCTV cameras and comparing, and I know what you're thinking if you're thinking, oh, well, he was, they just got the time wrong.

It happened.

Just keep listening.

Comparing the timelines associated with Officer Dunn's actual interaction on camera with the Oath Keepers, it is clear that Lazarus did not arrive at the top of the staircase until three and a half minutes after the last of the Oath Keepers had left the area and were exiting the Capitol building.

Got that?

So the guy who was being antagonized,

that officer,

he didn't arrive at the staircase until the oath keepers were already out.

And the Nancy Pelosi staffer claimed he saw him with the oath keepers at the top of the stairs three or four times and had to get past them.

Lazarus' return to that area in the Capitol occurred just after 3.05 p.m.

After tactical units from the ATF and DC Metro Police had completely cleared the top of that staircase, the speaker's lobby, and the speaker's offices of all protests.

So him doing this heroic save wasn't happening.

In the absence of video evidence at the trial, Lazarus' testimony served as verification by a trustworthy law enforcement official of Dunn's account to the jury of his interaction with the oath keepers.

But even without consulting the new video evidence, both men are on record offering conflicting accounts of the circumstance in which they supposedly encountered each other at the top of the rotunda staircase.

Lazarus claimed he saw Dunn involved in a conflict with the Oath Keepers as Lazarus came up the stairs.

Dunn claims the opposite, that he saw Lazarus involved in a conflict as Dunn came up the stairs.

Blaze Media acquired an advanced copy of Dunn's forthcoming book, Standing My Ground, a capital police officer's fight for accountability and good trouble after January 6th.

It's scheduled for release on October 24th.

On pages 79 and 80, Dunn describes his first encounter

of the day with Lazarus.

Quote, I took off, running up a winding spiral staircase toward the speaker's lobby.

Now, as I was on the same floor as the rotunda, as soon as I had made it to the landing, I saw special agent agent David Lazarus.

He was being hassled by some rioters.

Now, apparently neither Dunn's ghostwriter nor his editor checked the Oath Keeper's trial transcript in which Lazarus claims to recount the same moment in time as this.

How was your evacuation efforts?

How did you interact with the space?

Where were you going in relation to what you were looking at now?

So I came up from the first level and I came up to the stairs behind Dunn.

As I was coming up, I could see Dunn above me as he was coming up the stairs.

And I look and I see him standing there and this crowd is like, like right in front of him.

So Dunn claims to have been the first to see La, to have first seen Lazarus already at the top of the staircase, being hassled by rioters.

Lazarus testified that Dunn was above me already at the top of the staircase when he arrived.

Which is it, gentlemen?

Which one of you has forgotten which story you were supposed to tell?

Capital CCTV now reveals that Dunn reached the top of the staircase landing at exactly 2.44 p.m.

Dunn could not have seen Lazarus there, as Lazarus clearly identified on video now in the tunnels near the Senate office buildings at the same time.

Lazarus could not have seen Dunn interacting with the Oath Keepers three or four times quote unquote in a quote very antagonistic encounter end quote because Lazarus did not arrive at that staircase until 256 p.m.

The last Oathkeeper left at 253.

Again, this is at least three minutes after the Oath Keepers had departed.

In Lazarus' own trial testimony, he claimed that he was not

present when video footage shows Dunn was actually at the top of the stairs.

This important element of Lazarus' testimony was not only missed by all eight of the Oath Keepers' defense lawyers, but also by the journalists reporting on the trial from the first floor media room in the courthouse.

Lazarus truthfully testified that he had been escorting U.S.

senators through the tunnels to the Senate office buildings.

So as you're going into the tunnels, are you with the United States senators at this time?

Lazarus, yes.

We evacuate the entire Senate down the back stair into the tunnels and the tunnels go across Constitutional Avenue and back up to the Senate buildings where we had an area that was specifically set up to secure the Senate.

Did you remain at this location?

No.

Once we started moving through the tunnels, I heard shots fired, shots fired.

And so once I heard the shots were fired, I saw the senators were doing okay.

We had enough agents with them to get them to safety.

So I turned around and I started going back upwards where I heard the shots being fired.

Well, the report of shots fired

was heard on the main Ops 1 radio channel at 2.44.

This was in response to a single shot of of Michael Byrd firing that killed protester Ashley Babbitt.

This is what Lazarus heard according to the radio.

There are shots fired in the house floor.

I need units to respond.

He then testified under oath, verified by Capitol CCTV, that he was moving through the tunnels when he heard the shots fired at 1443 hours, which was 2.43.

Dunn reached the top of the stairs adjacent to the Capitol Rotunda at 244.

Oath keepers entered that same area only 30 seconds later.

Those times are also verified by Capitol CCTV time codes.

Somebody went to jail

on false testimony.

Somebody

knew this because it was very easy to verify.

And somebody in the DOJ decided that that wasn't worth that wasn't the story they wanted to tell.

Who told Nancy Pelosi's strongman

this story?

Who told Lazarus?

Who told Dunn?

And what does this mean for people who are sitting and rotting in jail under false testimony?

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I mean look I'm great thank you

what is your take on what happened yesterday in the house

Well, I've been very outspoken about this.

I know many people want to get behind Matt Gates.

I am not one of them.

So I guess I'm a neocon rhino sellout.

But that said.

Don't you hate this?

Don't you hate this?

I've put it on my business card.

I don't have one, of course.

Look, you and I have spent decades fighting these wars.

This is one of the dumbest-ass wars I've ever seen.

Why?

You got guys who claim to be conservatives.

One of them, Nancy Mace, who votes against McCarthy because he wouldn't put an abortion bill on the floor.

He wouldn't put a gun control bill on the floor.

She's a complete head case.

You got another guy, Andy Biggs, president of the state senate in Arizona, who blocked Convention of States.

He runs for Congress, he wins, a woman replaces him, and then Arizona becomes one of 20 states passing a resolution for Convention of States.

That's where my head is, Convention of States.

Then you got another guy, this guy from Tennessee that nobody ever heard of before.

Why is he mad?

He says because McCarthy criticized his religion when he spoke to him.

By the way, I'm not a special pleader for McCarthy, and I'm not a special pleader for Gates.

I call him as I see him, as do you.

And so he says what he says, it doesn't make sense.

You know why he voted against McCarthy?

Because he chaired a subcommittee and he said he worked really hard on this UFO issue and he wanted to chair this committee on the UFOs and Comer told him he's not in line to him.

And he got very angry.

That's why he votes against McCarthy.

Then we have Gates who goes to the floor of the House and I'm listening to him very, very carefully.

This is very important.

And he says, we didn't have regular order.

He promised us 12 bills.

I had Tom Massey on the show who's a longtime libertarian conservative.

He's the best of the best.

He's a gold standard.

Love him.

He said, that's not what happened.

You've got to get these bills out of committee.

The Democrats were larding up these things.

It was the conservatives who killed them in committee.

We couldn't get these bills to the floor.

It had nothing to do with violating a promise or anything else.

And he said on my show, you can't have it both ways.

Regular order, where whatever comes out of a committee goes to the floor, and at the same time, we need to cut the budget.

He said the Democrats were playing us.

Some of the eight and others voted against it to kill it in committee so it couldn't get to the floor.

So I'm listening to him and I said, well then,

what's this 12-bill stuff that Gates?

He said, Gates knows this.

I said, okay.

Then I listened myself to Gates say, we have $33 trillion debt.

And I said on the air,

I don't remember Gates speaking up against all this COVID spending.

And Massey said he never did, not once.

I said, well, that was like $3 trillion right there.

They wanted to spend $6 trillion.

Almost none of it went to, quote-unquote, COVID or the pandemic.

It went to the teachers' unions and everything else.

I am telling you that if you're going to blow up the house, blow it up for the right reasons.

I worked in the Reagan administration.

We shut the government down eight times.

We knew exactly why we were shutting it down.

He wanted his

MX missile system.

They wouldn't give it to him.

He wanted those medium-range nuclear weapons in Europe to defeat the Soviets, which is what happened.

And he shut it until he got it.

And he fought over water projects and everything.

Very specific.

This is, we have a $33 trillion

debt, so let's burn down Washington.

Okay, great.

So what are they going to do now?

That was my question.

They have to control the budget now.

Yeah.

I would love to see the...

You know, I'm not a fan of McCarthy.

However,

what is your plan now?

You don't run away from something, you run towards something.

They weren't running toward anything.

Who are they running to?

Who's going to take it?

They ran towards the squad and Hakeem Jeffries.

Behind the scenes, they were working with them while complaining that McCarthy's working with the Democrats.

I don't want anyone working with them for anything.

15% of the Democrats in the House are Marxists.

They're outspoken, quote-unquote, Democratic socialists.

Why the hell are you working with the progressive caucus and going to whatever her Jamala, whatever,

trying to coordinate with her?

Why are you going to AOC like you have a real love lust for the woman?

It's constant.

And then you're raising money on it, and that's righteous.

He's doing that for the people.

He's sending out emails to put together lists to run for governor.

Well, at least I'm not paid for by the special aid.

Hey, bro.

You have a 20-point Republican preference.

You represent the Republican

panhandle of Florida.

And those are wonderful patriots.

They're never going to vote for a Democrat.

Then you've got this guy, Rosendale from Montana, who ran for the Senate lost last time and wants to run again.

And he says he prayed for a very small Republican majority in the House.

So he and the others would have this contrum.

Wow, that's constitutional.

So eight of you could run the House of Representatives with the Democrats.

Let me tell you something.

He made sure he won his election, but he didn't want enough people to come in where we had a big majority.

You know, there's a lot of patriotic conservatives that lost in that midterm election

that many of us voted for, like here in Northern Virginia.

We had a great guy running.

He lost by 1%

in a purple, or actually more blue district, Loudoun County, Virginia, for God's sakes.

And am I glad he lost?

So Rosendale has more power?

This guy's from Montana.

He has nothing to do with me.

And so you've got all

just so many weird things going on.

And people need to scratch their heads and ask this.

Is Chip Roy a rhino?

Is Byron Donalds a rhino?

Is Jim Jordan?

Is every other member of the Freedom Caucus who voted against these guys,

are they rhinos too?

No.

There's a difference between anarchy and constitutional conservatism.

Read your Constitution, folks.

There's no anarchy in there.

There's no mobocracy.

They oppose the mobocracy.

They oppose a powerful central government.

You know this.

They set up a complex governing system.

Our only hope right now is the House of Representatives, with a tiny majority.

The Senate Republicans have sold us out.

And here's the bottom line.

That last bill that they proposed

was negotiated by Chip Roy and Byron Donalds with Ted Cruz and other conservative Republicans in the Senate.

The plan was that this would pass the greatest cut in a short-term CR,

probably in American history, certainly in our lifetimes.

30%

protecting the Defense Department, the Border Patrol, and veterans.

That was it.

So that would affect the FBI.

It would affect the Department of Justice.

It would affect all all this stuff.

And it was negotiated by the conservatives.

Get it to the Senate so we have some leverage over Mitch McConnell.

Who's a real SOB, that guy, selling us out every time?

Five of them killed it.

They said, no, shut the government down.

They said, shut it down.

This is better.

We don't know what we'll get if we shut it down.

Do this.

And we have the support we negotiated with the rhinos and everything else.

They're with us.

Let's do it.

And they killed it.

That's why I've had it with these people.

And people shouldn't just follow them.

Why are they really going to do it?

They're doing nothing.

Zero.

And I'll tell you one other thing.

I would not negotiate with Hakeem Jeffries

and these Democrat Marxists and the squad and all the rest of them.

If you put a gun to my head.

These people are destroying our country at every turn.

They are the enemy, not adversaries.

They are the enemy.

And you're cutting deals with them.

You're throwing in your vote with them, and then you're saying you're the true believer.

You're cutting deals with the Democrat majority,

and now we're going to have a bigger, bloated budget.

The border is going to remain open because part of that bill that they opposed had the strictest restrictions on the border ever passed by the House of Representatives.

I read it.

It's unbelievable.

Would it pass the Senate?

Well, they don't control the Senate.

But it would have given our conservatives in the Senate something to negotiate with.

Look at the House.

Look what they passed, Mr.

McConnell.

We got to do something about these things.

Now they have nothing.

Zero.

And so I would ask people who are defending and promoting these people, do you know who they are?

How many of you know the guy from Tennessee?

How many of you know the guy from Montana?

How many of you really know about Nancy Mays, who's a complete head case out of South Carolina?

So this is my problem.

That

we had good momentum going in.

Forget about personalities, about McCarthy and Scully.

I don't care.

We had good momentum going in.

And now we're stuck.

Everything is frozen.

Everything.

And we're attacking the most conservative body we have.

If it's not conservative enough, let's fix it.

The Senate's gone.

The presidency's gone.

The courts are gone.

We have a five-vote majority in the House

who are doing more with that five-vote majority than anybody else, and we just crippled it.

What the hell are we doing?

That's my take, Len.

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All right.

I want to talk to you about, I mean, you know, I don't think there's anything more plain.

The Democrat Party hates America.

I believe it.

I want to hear your case.

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so before we get to the book how much time do you have first of all can can i keep you until about a quarter till

let me see actually yes i have a lifetime my brother how are you

i mean this is the opposite end of the clock for you too i mean you're getting up and you're and you're this fired up i love it um So, Mark, first, let me ask you, do you see a plan?

Is there a plan?

Is there something that we're hoping for at this point?

No, I'd love to see one.

I mean, when Gates is asked who would he accept, he starts naming liberal members of the House.

I'm going, holy crap.

I don't know what the plan is.

I don't even know who would want to be speaker at this point.

Forget about McCarthy and so forth.

I'm thinking, okay, you're still going to to have these eight.

And the way this works is, from a propaganda networkry point of view, these guys are going to claim victory no matter what happens.

So in other words, let's say they actually pick, let's say a Jim Jordan, who I love, who I think is terrific.

And they're going to say, see, if it wasn't for us, you wouldn't have Jim Jordan.

They've got it all planned out.

And the fact of the matter is, one of the biggest supporters of the previous speaker was Jim Jordan.

And he even gave a speech on the floor.

Why?

I asked him.

He said, because he let us do what we needed to do.

He never interfered.

We would tell him what we need.

He'd say, if you need a subpoena, whatever you need, I'll take care of it, and so forth and so on.

The Rules Committee, there were more conservatives on the Rules Committee in the history of the House of Representatives.

They had Tom Massey on there, Byron Donald's on there, and another conservative, oh, Chip Roy.

who had the power to block anything and to promote anything.

And so he said

he's been in the House for a while now.

He said he came into the same time as McCarthy did.

And he said, it's never been more open.

Period.

And he said it's so open that everybody with a grievance was thinking about voting against him.

So that's how you get the Nancy Maces in there and the Rosendales and these other people in there.

And

that's why I think Chip Roy's biggest problem was

sometimes we have to accept victory.

When we have a 30% cut in a border security bill, which is the strongest

the House has ever passed,

this is a 30-day bill.

Why the hell wouldn't we just pass it?

I said, it beats me.

That's why I'm not a politician.

I can't figure you guys out, to be perfectly honest with you.

You know, you said, Mark, that the Democratic Party, I think you said 16%

are named Marxists.

They are fine with being Democratic Socialists or Marxists.

That's correct.

How did this happen?

Well, here's the truth.

The fact is,

and that's the point of the book, you're very good.

That's a good segue there.

I just want to say

everything I know I learned from Glenn Mann.

You are.

You are.

Top shelf, baby.

Look, here's the bottom line with this book.

The book explains that the Democrat Party has never accepted America's founding.

It has never accepted its principles.

We wouldn't have had a Civil War but for the Democrat Party.

The vast majority of Americans not only didn't own slaves, they never met slaves.

Even in the South, a tiny percentage,

tiny, big enough, don't get me wrong,

but not the vast majority of the people in the South.

They were too poor to own slaves.

Slavery was an abomination.

And who perpetuated it?

The Democrat Party.

Who was prepared to destroy the country to defend it?

The Democrat Party, the party of the Confederacy.

Look, we don't have enough time.

The book's 400 pages long, but I'll tell you this.

I decided to take on their icons, FDR,

the Kennedy family, Lyndon Johnson.

People are going to learn things about these people they couldn't possibly have known because the Democrat Party writes our history, or I should say rewrites our history.

So all the things the Democrat Party today condemns, and we condemn,

back in our history, is their history.

I mean, they did this to the country, and they projected onto the Republican Party, and I talk about that as being the biggest con that's ever been perpetrated against the American people.

And I explain that they supported eugenics.

for racial reasons.

When you want a more perfect society, and you're part of this progressive era, progressive movement what i call american marxists early marxists yeah if you need a more perfect society you need a more perfect citizenry and so they backed eugenics aggressively and you look at woodrow wilson this was a sick man

i mean people yeah people who were applying to the federal bureaucracy for jobs

the first time they put in place that you had to provide a photograph so blacks wouldn't get jobs you know let me bounce around a little bit ftr

Hang on just a sec.

Hang on.

We're going to pick this up.

You had me at Woodrow Wilson here.

But we're going to pick this back up with Mark Levin.

The name of the book is The Democrat Party Hates America.

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You know, I have to tell you, we have Mark Levin on.

He is the author of the new book,

The Democrat Party Hates America.

And the one thing that,

you know, has helped me

get my arms around what's happening to us now,

because I swore off the word evil.

And, you know, I'm like, I'm not going to call people evil or movements evil unless, you know, it's actually evil.

And I can't call this anything but evil now, what is being proposed, because we're talking about a party that is shout your abortion, shout for death,

you know, stand up for genital mutilation of our children,

of putting pedophiles

and

making them look good, telling others you'll never make it because of skin color, or you're bad because of your skin color.

All of this stuff is evil.

It's just evil.

When do you think that really grabbed the Democrat Party by the throat, Mark?

Well, you know, Gwen, I'd say slavery was pretty bad, and eugenics was pretty bad.

Okay, so maybe early.

Yeah.

But it's changed.

There's no question about it.

It's shifted.

And And my point here is to explain to the public that this is in the Democrat Party's DNA.

It is a war against the civil society, the beliefs and values that this nation was founded on.

It's never embraced them.

Their great icons have always rejected natural law and the Declaration of Independence.

When they cite it, they keep out the parts about God.

They will tell us that the Constitution was written by slavers, they call them, so therefore everything that flows from that is illegitimate and racist and this is how of course you destroy a country in many ways and they're destroying it in every way so now we're rewriting our history who rewrites their history totalitarian regimes Marxist regimes fascist regimes they rewrite their history you know the people who really get what's going on here I talk to them all the time I know you do too The people that have come from authoritarian countries, and they all look at me and say the same thing.

What the hell is happening?

Why aren't Americans waking up?

Well, what, I mean, this is what happened in my country.

What are you doing?

And what you add is so right on because

in writing this book, The Research, I read one

pretty well-known scholar after another who escaped these regimes.

The Third Reich, Mao,

Castro, Soviet Union, they all say the same thing, pretty much.

The language is changed.

to accommodate the party.

The party replaces the state, that is, the country.

You need allegiance to the party.

Everything comes through the party.

That's why it's centralized.

And everything is said to be done in the name of the people in one virtuous promise after another virtuous promise.

It's almost like a cloud of hypnosis to the public.

And people get used to being dumbed down.

They get used to using words that they never used before in a way that they never used them before.

They get used to censorship and the scarlet letter and the wokeism.

And then one day they wake up and say, what the hell is going on?

And that's when it's too late.

Because it's very hard to reverse these things.

That's why, to come full circle in the opening of your discussion with me, when I look at what's going on and what just took place yesterday, I get nauseous.

We have a party that is literally destroying this country that is unchecked.

We have a five-vote majority in the House.

It's the only place that anything is taking place.

And in our republic, such as it is, as it remains, we have divided government.

We control barely one half of a bicameral Congress.

Anything that comes out of that House can be vetoed.

If it even gets through the Senate and their filibuster and Mitch McConnell.

You want to know the real Unit Party?

Mitch McConnell and Schumer.

You want to know the rest of the Yuma Party?

Yesterday, Gates and Hakeem Jeffries.

Now that's sick.

So I just want to make the point.

The point of the book is,

look, ideas do have consequences.

Marx has consequences.

The founders' ideas had consequences.

But people need to know the truth.

And that's why there's 65 pages of hundreds and hundreds of end notes at the end of this book.

And it took me 16 months to write it.

The fact of the matter is, if people understand really what the Democrat Party, the black community understands, that the FDR not only didn't lift a finger for the black community, but, for example, when a federal anti-lynching bill hit his desk in 1940, he wouldn't sign it because he was running for an unprecedented third term and he wanted to win the South.

Joe Lewis came out, the great boxer, and said, I'm voting for Wendell Wilkie.

I'm not voting for him.

Over 1936, when FDR excluded,

invited all the white Olympians.

Yeah, Jesse Owens, not invited.

The great Jesse Owens.

And Jesse Owens was asked, did Hitler snub you?

He said, Hitler didn't snub me.

I never met Hitler.

Franklin Roosevelt snubbed me.

And from that point forward, he was a Republican the rest of his life.

People need to understand the history here, our anti-Semitism.

You look at Franklin Roosevelt.

Obviously, the Holocaust was occurring at the time.

He tells the New York Times and others, kind of keep it quiet, will you?

That's not really our focus right now.

And

also, what does he do?

His good friend, when they both worked at the Navy Department under Woodrow Wilson, his good friend was in charge of immigration at the State Department.

And the Jews who were trying to become refugees and flee Europe and especially Germany,

we were way under our cap.

There was a quota for different ethnicities for Jews.

And he refused to let them in.

Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of them.

Congress found out about it in 1944 and had a fit, and only then did FDR remove him.

But a lot of people went to their gas chambers that didn't have to go to gas chambers, Nazi gas chambers,

and they'd gone to LBJ and all the rest of them.

They're all really, we've had a lot of people.

Tell me how LBJ

is the champion of the Great Society, the guy who stopped the Civil Rights Act in 1959 and then became the champion of the black family with everything in the great society.

I mean, you couldn't design a more racist package and a more destructive thing to the black family than that.

How'd that happen?

Right.

It happened because he's a Democrat.

They control the media.

They control the history.

LBG never had an epiphany.

His two greatest biographers, hey he never had an epiphany, and all of a sudden he became a civil rights leader after spending his entire life and his public career as a racist segregationist.

You talk about this 1957 Civil Rights Act in Eisenhower.

Eisenhower was serious about it and he was pushing the Civil Rights Act.

Remember, he sent the 82nd Airborne down there, into Arkansas, I believe it was,

to straighten things out.

But that said,

He goes into Eisenhower, and this is all in the book, and he says,

I'm going to block this law.

And Eisenhower says, why?

He said, because I don't believe in it.

And I've got the numbers to block it.

He says, unless you take the teeth out of it, the enforcement mechanism.

So Eisenhower is furious.

But several months later, he and his staff get together and they say, well, we can't get anything if we don't do this because Johnson's going to block it with a filibuster.

So he signs it.

And Johnson goes to his fellow segregationists from the South and he says, support it.

It's got no teeth.

So they support it.

Now, why did Johnson do this?

Because he was plotting to run for president.

And he wanted to come off, wanted to play both sides as a civil rights leader to the North and as the great savior to the South.

And that's exactly what he did.

This man never had, this man, right up to his death, was using the N-word left and right here, the audio of it.

Horrible.

His butler said so.

His driver said so.

He was a nasty dude.

And even when he nominated Thurgood Marshal to the Supreme Court, he said,

I found a really important N-word

because when I appoint an N-word, I want the world to know that I appointed that N-word.

This is what you're dealing with.

So let me ask you.

Who Republican governors were blocking schoolhouse doors?

Nobody.

Let me ask you.

The whole thing is, you know, Marxism is against all human nature.

It just, it, that's why it never works.

It's against human nature.

But they go further than this.

They, I believe, are anti-human.

And you know it with eugenics.

Now they're doing it through transhumanism.

It's the same thing.

They're just trying to be God and create the perfect, the perfect society, which will look exactly like what?

Like hell.

Because human beings are created as imperfect creatures.

And we have imperfect societies because we have imperfect people.

So societies are built around imperfect people, not built around perfecting human nature.

So in other words, if you're a really lousy person who's committing criminal acts, you're supposed to have a rule of law and you go to prison and we take you out of society.

You don't destroy the entire entire society and recreate it based on what?

Based on Marx, and I talk about him too.

What a slovenly, stupid man he was.

I mean, he didn't even write half of his stuff.

And

in the Communist Manifesto, you talked about the family.

He specifically says you have to destroy the family.

Yes.

You have to destroy religion.

You have to destroy anything.

Gramsci, which you talk about in the book, said the same thing.

Gramsciety, all of them, Lenin, they all believe this, Stalin, and so that's why you have millions of people dying.

Or in our country, millions of people impoverished.

And now on the border, hundreds of people dying.

From eugenics, thousands of people dying.

From abortion,

God knows how many people dying.

You know, Mark,

let me get.

I've only got about 90 seconds left.

Is this revolution, which is

what we're in right now?

I'm kidding.

Do we survive this?

Show me a path to make it past the 2025 inauguration.

You know, Glenn, I'm always asking, am I a pessimist or am I an optimist?

Or what are the answers?

I read many books with answers in the back, so far they're not working.

And so I say in the end of this book, and I'll say now, I don't know if we win or lose.

Right now we're losing.

But I would say this, like a military operation, if you're a patent or somebody like that,

I'm not in the prediction business.

Fight like hell for your country, for your family, for your faith, for your liberty, in every way you can in your role of life.

Even just reading a book and passing it on to somebody else.

There are tens of millions of us.

Tens of millions of Thomas Paine's and Paul Revere's out there who

do not accept what's happening to this country.

So it's our job as citizens, whoever we are.

I don't care if you're a janitor, an electrician, a lawyer, a doctor, whatever you are, whoever you are, you come across people every day.

Engage them.

Speak to them.

You don't have to beat them over the head.

Explain that that party over there

doesn't believe in what you believe in, even if they're Democrats.

I don't mean these zombie activist bomb throwers.

I'm talking about there's a lot of Democrats out there who serve in the military, who are police officers, blue-collar workers.

They have no idea who is behind this.

That's why I wrote the book.

That's why the title is blunt as hell.

That's why Barnes at Noble won't display it.

That's their problem.

Yeah, well, good thing we don't need them anymore.

Mark Levin, thank you so much.

The name of the book is The Democrat Party Hates America.

You want to learn the real story behind the Democratic Party?

This is it.

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As always, Mark, it is good to have you and great to be your partner.

Thank you so much.

Apple and Screw, brother.

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and he is

an investigative reporter that

have been doing some work

and it's now exposed on theblaze.com.

He has been working on the January 6th puzzle for a while now, and his efforts have been frustrated over and over again by the politics in Washington when he's just trying to find the truth.

The story that has just been released this morning, did Pelosi's security chief perjure himself in the Oath Keeper's trial, has wide, wide consequences.

Welcome, Steve.

How are you?

Glenn, I am living proof that a man can live on coffee alone.

You started this a year ago today.

It was one year ago yesterday,

October 3rd, during the Oath Keepers trial was the first scent that there was something wrong.

Something happened in the trial first thing that morning when the prosecuting, the lead prosecuting attorney,

Jeffrey Nessler, assistant U.S.

attorney, approached the lectern and the bench and said to Judge Ameda, we have a problem.

He said, we have a rogue attorney that is about to release some FBI 302s.

These are interviews of one of the characters in this story that we released this morning.

And that if he does that,

these are sealed documents that are not publicly available, and we can't have that.

And Judge Maida did something that I had never seen before.

And I think, I don't know that any of the media in the media room where I was sitting had ever seen this before.

He actually directed the...

media pool to put out a tweet and threaten this particular attorney and let him know that if he released those sealed documents, he would have him held in contempt of court.

And right then I went, what are in those documents?

So what was in those documents?

They're still sealed, but I will tell you that the documents themselves were the actual FBI interviews of one of these Capitol police officers.

And the primary problem that the government has with those documents is that the testimony was changed, his testimony about his interaction with the oath keepers, which in the first testimony he revealed to be a positive interaction, that the oath keepers lined up between him and the more agitated protesters and assisted him in keeping them off of him and helping him de-escalate.

That was in May of 21, that interview.

In August of 21, this officer was brought back in and the testimony was changed into an aggravated, contentious

event with the Oath Keepers, and as well as the creation of a second event to explain the first FBI interview that never happened.

So

it is amazing to me reading your story.

It is so well laid out.

However, what makes this different, it's not he said, she said, or he said, he said,

because you had

permission to go into the 14,000 hours

of videotape.

You knew what you were looking for.

Yeah.

Right?

Yeah.

And in the story, you knew what time it even happened because the testimony was gunshots,

you know, gunfire.

And so that marked it at a certain time when

they shot an innocent.

So tell me about what you found, what the story was in the testimony and then what you found on the tape.

Well, the story in the testimony from special agent, now this is Capitol Police Special Agent David Lazarus, is that when he heard the gunshots at 243, 244

broadcasted over the radio that shots had been fired, that he was down in the tunnels.

escorting senators towards the Rayburn building to the other Senate office buildings.

And that's

quite a long distance away from the House House chamber where allegedly these shots were fired.

He said at that moment at 2.44, he began turning around and heading back.

Well, because we knew what to look for, we immediately went there and we started working our way backwards.

And we found him in the tunnels at that time.

The problem with it is that when he emerged from the Senate building tunnels in the subway system below the Capitol.

And by the way, Glenn, these are videos that were never released to the defense attorneys in this trial.

If we were living in normal times, the people that had been convicted with any of the testimony

revolving around these guys, they would be released.

Any other time in American history, they would be released because this is perjury and somebody

set this up.

Somebody.

And we're working on that.

trail as well.

But going back to Lazarus, so he emerges and comes back into camera frame on on the Capitol TVs with absolute proof of the exact time down to the second of when he emerged back into camera.

He even passes under an analog clock in the subway at exactly this moment.

And it's at 2.48 p.m.

when he finally reaches the other side of the tunnels from the Senate office buildings.

And when that happens, the Oathkeeper

Officer Dunn

encounter is almost already over by then.

He's nowhere near it and he still has a long way to go.

And then we were able to triangulate because he will go out of camera frame for a while, then he'll enter camera frame again from another camera.

And then he's down another hall and then he enters another hallway and then he shows up on the Senate side.

And then by the time he reaches the bottom of the stairs that lead up to the rotunda, and it's in a little area that's variously called the mini rotunda or the speaker's lobby, when he reaches the bottom of those stairs, it's now 2.56,

45 p.m., and the oath keepers are long gone.

Okay, so now let me give you the exact verbiage from the testimony in the court case.

Lazarus, the guy you've just been talking about, explained that one rioter asked, who are you?

Who are you?

Then according to the trial transcript, he testified.

And, you know, one attempted to, I mean, I had my lanyard on with my ID on it.

And one, they were videotaping, and one attempted to pull at my ID, and I was kind of like grabbed it back and looked to make sure it was still there.

And then I saw an opening.

So there's just kind of like, I walked fast to get into the office and check on the staff again.

He then detailed description of what took place, what Lazarus described as a very antagonistic in three or four times that he passed by these oath keepers.

Every time I interacted or came by yes it was very antagonistic he said this under oath

when he was then shown in court

a

video clip of four oath keepers standing in front of done

Lazarus was asked are these the individuals you observed yes yes At any point in these three or four interactions in this space, did you observe any sort of anything but antagonistic conversation?

No, that's correct.

Here's the problem.

They were already out of the building.

At the time we know him now on camera, we have the videotape.

The Oath Keepers have been gone for almost 10 minutes.

It was not quite 10 minutes.

But when you're in the Capitol

video room viewing this, we can put multiple cameras up on the screen at the same time.

And and then we hit one button and it syncs all of those cameras to the exact timeline.

So we're able to watch Lazarus moving through the building in one quadrant of the screen, and then we can watch when the Oath Keepers leave.

So as the Oath Keepers leave and they're walking back out through the rotunda, about to exit through the Columbus doors on the east side, it wasn't until that moment that finally Lazarus reaches that area where in great detail in the trial, and we have the trial transcripts, obviously, in great detail he describes what he saw and it just did not happen.

So

this was an important part of the trial, right?

It was a huge part of the trial because the one thing that the government

was absolutely intent upon doing was not allowing anything that could be exculpatory or anything that painted the oath keepers in a positive light.

And this wasn't the only positive interaction that oath keepers had with law enforcement that day.

You've interviewed Lieutenant Tarek Johnson.

Lieutenant Tarek Johnson used two oath keepers, literally recruited them to help rescue another 16 officers out of a dangerous situation.

That was never allowed in the trial.

So, and I, you know, I learned something from the article.

Let me see if I can find it here.

I had no idea.

Oathkeepers, seditious, blah, blah, blah.

Federal prosecutors claim while they were inside the Capitol, members of the group were involved in contentious interaction.

I don't know where it is now, but you talk about the oath keepers, how

they've never,

they've never had here.

35,000 dues-paying members had more than a decade's worth of spotless record providing disaster relief and security during riots and other large events.

They had never once been accused or charged with a crime in thousands of operations.

I had no idea.

One of the things that the government could not do in that trial is they could not counter that little piece of information.

And of course, it didn't matter in front of the D.C.

jury.

I mean, the D.C.

jury, it was a fait accompli before day one in terms of what the outcome of that trial was going to be.

But one of the things that the defense did successfully present is the fact that, in years and years of disaster relief operations, security details, and all kinds of time, other times when they actually went and were recruited and hired by minority businesses, like in

Ferguson,

like in Louisville, Kentucky, and those riots, where they were recruited by minority businesses to come help us protect our businesses.

The defense was rather able to show some of those videos.

But the one thing that the government could not prove was that at any time since 2009 when the Oath Keepers were founded, that there had ever been a single time where an Oathkeeper had committed violence in any of those operations or had ever committed a crime or any charges had ever been filed.

And when you think of the oath keepers, you think, oh, they're just really bad.

Isn't that remarkable how that has

been portrayed and carried by the press?

Okay,

so

there's obviously some sort of conspiracy here because these guys...

They don't, they're both saying the same story, but it seems to switch where one is saying, no, I saw him at the top of the stairs and the other guy is saying, no, I saw saw him at the top of the stairs.

They couldn't even get their story right.

Yeah, it's inexplicable that the editor of Harry Dunn's forthcoming book did not check the trial transcripts.

Because when Lazarus, David Lazarus, special agent, Nancy Pelosi's head of security, tells his version of events, he says that when he runs to the top of the stairs, that he sees this large, imposing figure, because Dunn is 6'7, 300 pounds, plus all the gear he had on.

And he sees this large

imposing figure in a contentious

moment with these oath keepers that were giving him the business.

All right.

And that's his testimony.

In Dunn's book, he explains that when he ran to the top of that stairs and reached that stairwell landing at the top, that Lazarus was already there and he was being confronted by protesters.

Okay.

So the questions that we need to ask and what this actually means, I'm afraid Stu and I were talking about it this morning, that

in any other time, any other time in American history, this case would be thrown out now.

They would file a charge, they got to throw this case out,

and it would be done and people would care.

I'm not sure people care.

I'm not sure people, I mean, that's where our justice system is.

It only moves because somebody says says something, somebody, the American people just won't take it.

I wonder what the real fallout of this will be, and you probably have a good idea.

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Okay,

What is next in this?

And I know you talk to people in Congress, but is this going to move anything in D.C.?

I can tell you that not only working with weaponization committee investigators on this story, as well as the

high-ranking staffers, and I can't get into specific on-the-record details, that there will be talks about hearings, and we know what hearings result in far too often.

But

there has to be something next because, Glenn, this is literally an existential threat to our republic, what is taking place in our courts right now.

This is our decentralization.

This is our government not getting it wrong.

No.

This is our government setting American citizens up, withholding evidence that's exculpatory,

sentencing them to long sentences.

And apparently, several people are involved in this.

This is as bad as it gets.

Even in one of the specific Oath Keepers' cases, during his sentencing hearing, this was the oath keeper Ken Harrelson, who you can see in video holding the crowd back from Officer Dunn.

I mean, he's literally got his hands extended and he's holding the back, holding them back as they were agitating and trying to get it done.

And there's four oath keepers lined up up with their backs turned to Dunn.

He's at the top of the stairwell holding an M4 rifle and

these guys are holding them back.

And in his case particularly, Judge Meda in his sentencing hearing actually said these words.

He said, Mr.

Harrelson, I do not believe that you're the man that the government has made you out to be.

Well, if I could speak to Maida right now, Judge Maida, I would tell him now we know that he is not the man who the government made him out to be.

You need to send him home.

Have you talked to their attorneys yet, the oath keeps it?

I talk to them every day.

And now that this is out and you're able to prove this, are they going to move?

They're obviously in transition from their trial representation to their different legal teams that are going to be representing them in appeal.

But these guys are

hot.

They're hot.

And of course,

they all know how this was set up.

And this is where the next part of this story is going, is that, look, we know, we know that there was the equivalent of a star chamber set up and said, how are we going to get these guys?

And we see the process and the pattern of events of how they led to that, as well as here.

Absolute proof of the creation and manipulation of testimony and of something that never happened presented in that trial.

This story is a year's worth of a man's life.

You must read it by Steve Baker.

Did Did Pelosi Security Chief perjure himself in the Oath Keepers trial?

It is only part one of a series that Steve is working on and you'll find it from Blaze Media at theblaze.com

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What happened yesterday?

Republicans go in and they get rid of the Speaker.

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so what does this mean

well

If I may,

as a professor, a doctor, actually, somebody who's very well versed in verses and other things.

I believe what you're saying is what Aristotle said.

Nature abhors a vacuum.

Now think about this.

That's Aristotle.

They didn't have vacuums.

They didn't even have a plug at the time.

So, you know, they had to beat their, well, they beat their wives or their...

weird boyfriends, which they were, I don't want to get into all that, but they didn't have vacuums.

But even he knew nature abhors a vacuum.

Or Or we could go back to Proverbs 29, 18, where it says, where there is no vision,

the people shall perish.

So help me out.

Where's the vision?

Where's the replacement?

Where's the vacuum?

That's what happened yesterday.

You might have chased an evil spirit out.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I didn't like him.

I don't know if I'd call him an evil spirit, but he did vacate the house yesterday.

And

I don't know.

It might be much, much worse

because they didn't put somebody in place.

Thus endeth the lesson.

Class dismissed.

Thank you very much.

Wow.

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Give me a little bit of the Mississippi Masquire.

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Just

a little.

A lot or a little bit.

Just a little.

Here.

Just a little bit.

Just enough.

Okay, good.

That's enough.

Amen.

Amen.

Yeah, you know, having a plan when you do something like this

is nice.

Now, Jim Jordan has apparently announced he's going to run for House Speed.

He'd be great.

He'd be an improvement, right?

I think is as good as you could possibly imagine happening out of this scenario.

I like Jim Jordan.

You don't?

Yeah, no, I don't.

All of a sudden, you don't like him.

All of a sudden, you're against him.

No, not at all.

I mean, I think he.

That's what I'm hearing.

That's what America is hearing.

Now, people might remember that he voted to keep McCarthy in.

So I don't know if that's going to please him.

So did Thomas Matthey.

Right, but I don't know if it's going to please the eight people who didn't.

Oh.

So I don't know.

Maybe it will.

Maybe they'll like Jordan.

Maybe they should.

Maybe they should.

Maybe they should

look at the options.

It strikes me is that that's probably our best case scenario here.

The fact that he's actually announced it is a good thing.

It's not a fake run.

It's not, oh, draft me.

It's none of that stuff.

He's actually announced it.

You assume someone like Steve Scalise is also going to jump into this?

Who would be?

Maybe.

You don't like him either.

No, I'm just saying maybe

similar to MacArthur, maybe a little bit better.

Maybe.

We'll see.

So that would be good.

I mean, the question here, there's what, four different outcomes that can come out of this, right?

You could go through and get all the Republicans again, get all of them to agree.

We saw how difficult that was last time.

But maybe that happens.

Maybe Jim Jordan's the guy.

I mean, I question whether moderates are are going to get on board with someone like Jim Jordan.

And I think you got to get them.

We could always go back.

Nancy Pelosi.

We could get her back into the house.

Well, I mean, you laugh, but so let's just say four scenarios here.

Yeah, one.

One.

Scenario one.

All the Republicans come together on the same candidate.

Notice the difference between our stories.

I have a choir behind me.

He's got nothing.

Nothing.

But go ahead.

No one's hearing for this analysis.

So, number one, you get all the Republicans again.

All right.

Difficult, but there you go.

That's much better.

Herbal.

All right.

All right.

Scenarios.

Number one.

Okay.

Number one, you get all the Republicans together again.

They just approve this thing.

They find a guy.

They all come together on.

Now, what's that going to, what's the result of that?

I would argue.

I love this.

I love.

This is my favorite piece of music.

It really is.

You know, this works for anything.

For anything.

No, honey.

Will you marry me?

I mean, please?

No, because that works.

Yeah.

So in that case, you get something similar, most likely, right?

Something similar to what you had with McCarthy.

Could be a little bit better.

Could be a little bit worse.

Why'd you stop the music?

What the heck?

I'm onto the horn.

That's the only part of this I'm listening to.

So it could be a little bit better, could be a little bit worse.

Next exam.

Next example is you.

This is why this is so funny.

I don't know either.

So

you don't get the eight, let's say, that went against

McCarthy.

You don't get them.

So

to make up for that, you got to pull in a few Democrats, right?

A few moderate Democrats.

You pull in, you get them.

Now, if a few moderate Democrats are going to approve it, you can be sure it's going to be worse than

the current circumstances, right?

Pretty much.

Yeah, worse.

The next scenario, we're getting worse and worse by each scenario, is you basically get someone in the middle that doesn't appeal to the hard left or hard right, but it comes together like a, I don't know, a...

Mitch McConnell.

I was going to say, no, McConnell's more like the last option.

This is more like a Mitt Romney, John McCain figure, someone in the very middle who pleases a bunch of Democrats and Republicans.

Does this sound better?

Does this sound like an improvement?

This is turning into a horror movie.

Right, we're into air.

It's like Cujo.

We're into even worse territory here.

Wow, but that's not the worst possibility.

That's not the worst one.

Okay, so the worst possibility is you get all the Democrats and pick off

five, six Republicans?

You only have to pick up the six most liberal.

So, what if you have a nominee that is all Democrats and six of the most liberal Republicans who are defending their purple districts, right?

Get them all together to pick a nominee.

Does that sound like that's catastrophic?

That's basically Democratic control, and you've lost control of the house.

So, let's go through just the summary of our four scenarios here.

I mean, where did it hold it?

When did I stop the music?

it's too silly

when did i become the guy where i was bringing you know i was bringing something to the table

that was like joyous and happy and you are the one bringing me down brother you've ruined me you've broken me over the years glenn i no longer have any options

together

amen

amen

i mean we're all gonna die can i get it amen

the church is gonna burn to the ground.

Any man.

But the Lord will save us.

So our four options here.

Yes.

Similar,

worse,

even worse, catastrophic.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

Similar.

Similar.

Worse.

Worse.

Even worse.

Yeah.

Catastrophic.

You didn't name the first one.

Great.

Great.

Similar.

I mean,

our best outcome would be probably Jordan, right?

Jordan.

And Jordan would be good.

He would be better in improvement.

Yes.

If it works out that way.

I'll take that as a great.

I mean, it's good.

No, I'll take it as a great.

Again, the people who are

going to need something to hold on to, I'll take it.

Okay, you know what?

I'm with you.

I'll take it as a great thing.

Thank you very much.

If this works, like, and this is the way I think to think about this.

Okay, I'm thinking.

Because you see, like, you know, people like Gates kind of taking this victory lap, which, you know, again, he made history here, right?

He was the first person to ever eject a speaker.

It's a big deal, and I can understand he obviously has higher aspirations.

He's going to not do well in Florida, is my guess.

Because it looked, you know what, there are some people that can pull this off, and then other people that look like, you're just, I mean, you're running for something, aren't you?

I mean, a lot of people have certainly.

It kind of feels a little bit,

but whatever.

I mean,

the other side of that is he has good arguments, right?

We are greatly

dead.

I am, remember, I told you, amen, or uh-oh, right.

I mean, I'm torn between the two.

If they had a plan, I'd be thrilled.

But I don't think they had a plan.

But if that's the first one or the second one that you lined up, I'm okay.

I'm okay.

I know how to relate to you.

Okay.

Because you're the father.

Of a football coach.

So you know the sports.

You know the

inside now.

appeal to you with a sports analysis here.

Yes.

It's fourth and eight.

Fourth and eight.

You're at your own.

Which inning.

Okay.

You're at your own 25.

Who's at the net?

And you have a bunch of coaches get together on the sidelines.

And the goalie is in place.

All of what you're saying is very true.

Don't even worry about it.

Okay, good.

I got it.

Okay.

Fourth and eight.

You're out 25.

The coaches get together.

They have a big argument.

Should we go for it or should we punt?

And most of the coaches,

all the coaches are saying, do not go for it.

Terrible idea.

And a few coaches are saying, hey, we go for it.

It's fourth and eight and our own 25.

Now,

how many coaches do you have?

I like hundreds.

Hundreds of them.

Eight of these coaches

come together and say, we got to go for it.

And those eight coaches win the debate.

We're going to go for it.

And they start celebrating on the sideline.

Now,

some might argue, number one, you don't celebrate when you win the argument to go for it on fourth down.

You might celebrate if you make it on fourth down.

That's the time to celebrate.

Secondarily, you better have a good play drawn up, right?

You better have a play that you know is going to get you eight yards in that situation because it's really important.

And the issue, I think, is it doesn't seem like there's much of a play game.

Okay, hang on just a second.

They have a play.

Oh, no.

Okay, they have a play.

The guy who's like throws it between his butt cheeks, that guy, the center, he just throws it to the quarterback.

The quarterback just looks for somebody that's open

in the touchdown area and he throws it to him.

I mean, this game is not that hard.

You know, throw a goalie and play football with one of those lacrosse things

or even a high-lie ball.

Wouldn't that be fun?

I feel like perhaps my analogy was lost on you.

A little bit.

And

I will say, one of the most amazing things in the history of America, which is a great place of great possibilities, great opportunities, is the fact that your son is a college football coach.

Right.

What did that happen?

Which is less surprising than me being in the Radio Hall of Fame.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

God bless America.

Yeah.

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Can we play cut number three here?

This is from Sean Hannity yesterday.

Now, sources telling me at this hour some House Republicans have been in contact with and have started an effort to draft former President Donald Trump to be the next speaker.

And I have been told that President Trump might be open to helping the Republican Party, at least in the short term, if necessary,

if it's needed.

May I just say?

Greatest show on earth.

If we just don't care.

I mean, if we don't care, and I don't think we do.

I think most of Americans just don't care.

You know, right now they're like, oh, this lasts forever.

Greatest show on earth.

Let's watch it.

Yeah.

Let's, let's, let's, because he, I think he would make a great great house speaker.

It's also basically a free campaign, right?

You just show up.

You actually get paid and you show up there and everyone's going to have to cover everything you're doing every day.

And I mean, I guess they do that with Trump kind of anyway.

Can you imagine?

He would be remarkable.

That's a word for it.

That is a word for it right there, remarkable.

Because there would be lots of remarks about it.

So it would be, you would be able to remark on it.

That's how strongly I feel.

Yeah.

It would be fascinating.

I don't know.

If it was somebody else's country, I'd love it.

I mean, I look.

And it being our country, it could be really good.

It'd be a lot of fun.

And fun.

But it also could be very bad.

It could just be him just yelling at people all the time, which again would be very fun.

I don't know.

I mean, he doesn't seem like much of a process guy.

That doesn't seem like his strong suit.

You don't think he's good at the parliamentary rules?

He can wrangle people.

I mean, no one will say anything bad about the guy in the Republican Party,

unless you're Chris Christie, I guess.

I mean, everyone else just says, you know, wonderful things about him all the time.

And on the right, it would be,

he probably could line up every Republican for every vote.

That I will say, and that's the job of the speaker.

He's fantastic.

The job of the speaker.

He's fantastic.

Imagine what he would get passed.

A lot.

A lot.

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