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My gosh, it was the worst debate I have heard in my lifetime.

In my lifetime, I've never seen

a worse debate than that one.

It was awful.

I tweeted right after

the only winner was Donald Trump because he didn't have his, he wasn't a right.

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So anyway, he's the only one that didn't have any stink on him.

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probably walked away with,

you know,

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Woo!

I love the primary season.

Oh, as we say, primary season is the dumbest season.

So everyone hates everyone.

Everyone thinks everything you say is some some secret signal against whoever you want to vote for.

That's where we are in primary season.

Can I tell you,

if you went to like,

I don't know,

maybe if you had to debate your way in to be homecoming king and queen and prince and princess at like, let's say, Beverly Hills High.

I think that's kind of the debate that I saw last night.

A bunch of privileged people on the stage, all yelling, all talking over each other, not stopping, no reason, all looking at like one of the journalists at the same time, just

talking.

Shut up.

All of you, shut up.

My gosh, it was such a waste of time and such an insult.

The biggest loser last night was Fox.

That was disgusting.

And I'm doing a TV show tonight.

You don't want to miss.

We're going to be talking about, I think Fox is dead.

I think the GOP is dead.

I think it's dead.

Dead.

GOP is the one that picked Fox and Univision to host that thing.

Why?

Why?

Why would they do that?

Why?

It was Fox Business News.

Do you know how many people watch Fox business news?

Like 12.

And many of them are on the second floor of the Fox building.

What are you doing?

And then you put Univision on with Fox?

I mean, I understand NBC Univision because it's the same crap.

Oh, my gosh.

I couldn't.

They lost control of that debate within 10 minutes.

That was rough.

I mean, I guess the theory here is that they don't want to give debates to MSNBC and CNN.

So they're like, well, who else do we have?

I don't know.

Right.

I know what you're going to say.

Yeah.

Like, maybe the Blaze?

Maybe the Blaze.

Maybe you give it to the Blaze Daily Wire and we do it together.

Yeah.

Maybe, what are you doing, G-O-P?

Instead, they're like, well, the only ones who don't totally hate us are Fox and Fox business.

So let's go there over and over and over again.

Oh my gosh, it was horrible.

And like, I don't,

like, I like Dana Perino.

I think she, I don't think it was necessarily the

moderators because it was like, at some point, we are

conservatives here, right?

Maybe we should blame the people for their actions.

And the people on stage all made the same decision that I wasn't aggressive enough.

I need to talk more.

No, no.

And they all talked about.

Except for Ronnie.

Two.

I would say two.

I would say Vivek

went the opposite way.

No, it's

Mr.

Vivek's backage out.

Hello.

The primary guy sees that Vivek is getting a compliment.

He must be a Vivek,

a secret agent.

Right.

Okay, so I thought DeSantis was more aggressive, but generally speaking, kept within the lines.

I think so, too.

I think that's why I said he, out of all that appeared, and the only reason why the big winner was Donald Trump last night, was because he didn't have any of the stink on him.

If he would have been there, it would have been worse.

It would have been worse.

But he wasn't there.

He made the right decision.

He didn't show up.

And that thing devolved into a 12-year-old food fight.

It was awful.

Awful.

Awful.

I mean, there was minutes at a time.

Minutes.

With three or four of them were talking.

There was one time, I think, all seven of them were talking.

Oh, gosh.

And it was like, what are you?

What is this?

What is this?

I mean, are we America?

This is the lowest low I think we've ever hit in politics.

Thank God.

Wait a minute.

No, no, no.

I mean,

in debates.

In debates.

Not in politics.

That's a real problem.

No, in debates.

This was shameful.

It was shameful.

And, you know, I get it.

Like,

Tim Scott, the criticism of him in debate number one is he basically didn't say anything.

So right out the gate, Tim Scott, every single question, jumping in, raising his hand, saying, I understand he's trying to solve a specific problem.

He's not going to win the presidency if he doesn't solve it.

I get why he does that.

Doug Bergham.

No one knows who Doug Bergam is.

He is, first of all, let me just say this.

Every time the camera went to him, it was like, oh, my gosh.

I mean, he's a Muppet.

He doesn't.

He is.

He's like an avatar or a cartoon.

I don't know.

You know, like his just appearance?

Well, it's his appearance.

You're like, oh, God, what?

Just can warn us slide into him from Chris Christie or something.

My wow, God.

That's the biggest Chris Christie compliment I think ever, his appearance has ever received.

Ever, ever received.

And he is, oh my gosh.

Honestly, like,

look, policy-wise is another story.

As far as the actual debate goes, and he was, I don't even think he was near the bottom of it.

Like, at least he would say things that were kind of coherent, and he wasn't always talking over people.

I mean, I'm just saying, as far as in the debate rules, he has really bad planned one-liners that he thinks are going to be great.

Oh, I don't.

Cut 18.

I don't know what you're talking about.

I want to look in a camera right now and tell you, Donald, I know you're watching.

You can't help yourself.

I know you're watching.

Okay.

And you're not here tonight, not because of polls and not because of your indictments.

You're not here tonight because you're afraid of being on the stage and defending your record.

You're ducking these things.

And let me tell you what's going to happen.

You keep doing that.

No one up here is going to call you Donald Trump anymore.

We're going to call you Donald Duck.

He really wanted that one to land.

Practice that.

Oh my gosh.

That is so

awful.

That was like the same way Chris Christie felt going to ask a girl to a prom is how he felt right there.

And she just said no to his face.

It was so sad.

You know,

if he wasn't Chris Christie, he didn't have the, you know, corruption thing, which might work for him now.

Didn't have the corruption thing in the back.

If he,

if he had completely different policies, he could have cut through last night.

Yeah, he couldn't.

Because he he can command the stage.

Look, again, now I'm going to be, oh, you love Chris Christie.

But, like, Christie's good at this.

Yes, he's good.

Generally.

I mean, again, that was a horrible moment.

That was a horrible moment.

He really.

And leading up to it,

like that line is so bad at the end of it, but the rest of it is, I think, fair.

Like, I think criticizing Donald Trump for not being there is totally fair.

I do too.

If I, I said this last night because I was thinking of you.

Glenn Beck runs for president.

I'm in a position where I would be the guy behind the stage.

You're up by 40 points.

And you go, what should we do with this debate?

I'd be like, what are you nuts?

Don't go near that debate.

That's what I would be telling you.

You're up by 40 points.

Stay away.

I want you to win.

That is the whole way I would talk to you about it as your advisor.

And if I were an advisor for Donald Trump and he was up like that, I'd be saying the same thing.

Yeah.

I wanted him there.

I have questions for Donald Trump, and I think they should be heard in a debate, but I'm not advising him to be in that.

That's crazy.

He won last night

because of that, by just not showing up.

I'd say, you know, and that's probably the story for the first two debates, right?

Like every day that passes in a race where the gap is 40 points, that there isn't a breakout performance is a win for Donald Trump, right?

He's up by a lot.

So he doesn't need his own breakout performance.

He doesn't need to knock down Vivek Ramaswamy or Rhonda Sanders or Nikki Haley.

He just needs to keep surviving.

So totally understand it from his perspective when you're talking about winning.

You know, there's a part of me, you go back to, you know, Ted Williams.

This is going to give you a sports reference, Glenn, prepare yourself.

Ted Williams was hitting what, 401?

He's a great boxer.

Going into the last day of the season.

And the manager offered to let him sit.

And just sit it out.

You're hitting 401.

It's going to be an amazing achievement.

Don't go.

What if you go 0 for 3?

You might be under 400.

Instead, he played.

And he went, I think, 3 for 5.

And he wound up hitting 403.

Like, I want a little bit of that from Trump.

I mean, the whole reason.

All you need is three rounds and five, and you're.

No, you're making, your points are going to be good on this, but I'm just going to hold off for one second on them.

Your sports follow-ups are going to be good.

But the point is, like, what we, you know, if you look at Donald Trump, what is it, what do Republican voters love about Donald Trump?

How many times did they say it?

Because he fights.

Right?

This isn't him fighting.

This is him being like, well, it's smart for me to avoid the fight.

And I would like him to be there.

And I think it was fair for both DeSantis and Christie to hit him on that.

How Christie did it was just so cringeworthy.

Correct.

It was unbelievable.

And I think DeSantis, the way he did it, I thought was good.

That was good.

I thought that was good.

I thought that was good.

It wasn't hatred towards Trump.

It wasn't,

Trump is the worst guy in the world.

But hey, you know, like if he wants your votes, he should show up to these things.

And I think that's a fair criticism.

I don't know that I wouldn't listen to it if I was Trump's advisor.

If Donald Trump would have been been there last night,

everyone would have in the press blamed him for the chaos.

It shows you don't need Donald Trump for the chaos.

I don't know.

That chaos was there all by itself.

All by itself.

It was a sense of desperation, was it not, Glenn?

These people, they're all looking here.

They're all saying, look, we're down by 40 and 50 points.

We can't break out of this.

I mean, people were talking about how well Nikki Haley did last time.

She went from like 2% to 7%.

You know, like, this is the game that's being played here.

They're all in a in a, getting an increasing amount of desperation.

They need money, most of them.

And so they all decided at the same time, what I need to do is just talk through the moderators.

And sometimes that's successful.

We've seen Trump do it successfully.

We've seen Newt Gingrich do it successfully in previous campaigns.

Yeah, but they don't all do it.

They all did it.

They all made the same decision on the same day.

Yeah.

And I feel bad for Ramaswamy because he's the only guy that went the other way.

Yeah, he did.

He was the only guy that said, I mean, and the the Scott smashed him on it.

I mean, just,

and it was a great moment for Scott.

Which one?

When Ramaswamy said, look, we're, we're all decent people here.

We're all decent people.

Oh, yeah, yes.

And he tried to offer a fig leaf to everybody or an olive branch.

I don't know why you didn't have a family.

Some fruit or vegetable.

Yes.

He gives them, he throws an avocado their way.

Right, yeah.

And they said,

fig leaf, like they were all naked.

Oh,

oh, I'm sorry.

I said, Yeah, Chris Remsey was on stage.

Watch your mouth.

So, um, so he, you know, tries to be kind and reverse because he was too

aggressive last time.

Last time.

So he learns his lesson and he decides, you know what?

I'm going to go this way.

And they just slit his throat.

Yeah, they did.

Just slit his throat.

Scott said, you know, you called us all bought and paid for last time, which I, by the way, for all the people saying we're Vivek

people,

we criticized.

I thought that was wrong.

I thought it was a bad moment for Vivek last time.

And I thought Scott was fair to hit him on that because it was kind of like a blatant flip-flop, right?

Like it did seem like he was another person, but he was more Vivek, I thought.

That's how Vivek has been in interviews with us.

He was much more like he was last night.

Here's

Cut 17.

This is Scott.

When we have a conversation about the things that are happening on this stage, we think about the fact that Vivek just said we were all good people.

And I appreciate that because last debate, he said we were all bought and paid for and I thought about that for a little while and said you know I can't imagine how you could say that knowing that you were just in business with the Chinese Communist Party and the same people that funded Hunter Biden millions of dollars was a partner of yours as well.

It's not nonsense.

So look,

I want to respond.

These are good people who are tainted by a broken system.

And it's not the fault

of anybody who's involved in a lot of people.

Some of us are tainted

excuse me shut up tim shut up just let the guy just let the guy talk what do we get out of this you know someone someone tweeted this glenn i was thinking of you because you were one of the first people who really started doing these these types of interviews but like

isn't the debate format basically dead and shouldn't we look more at like the long-term pod long-form podcast format for for these types of things like wouldn't it be much more interesting to have a few of these guys maybe two at a time talking about a a specific issue in an hour-long format with someone who's conservative and knows the issue well from a conservative perspective.

Wouldn't we learn so much more from that about these guys?

Because you still have to be quick on your feet, but you actually have time to be able to lay out your ideas and show how much knowledge you have about these things.

You just did one with Ron DeSantis.

Ron DeSantis, of course you would do it.

No, but you just did one with Ron DeSantis last week.

A lengthy interview, what, an hour, where you were able to go through all these things.

And like,

you get so much more out of that than this nonsense.

Oh, I got more out of an interview with all of them.

I've done all of them except the Muppet at the end of the stage.

Not Chris Christie.

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I won't.

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Would you do, Doug?

Would you get on the Bergamento train?

No, I wouldn't.

And it's just a waste of time, gang.

Just a waste of time.

But, you know, the only one left, really, and I've done interviews, hour-long interviews with Donald Trump, but not since he was

a candidate

and would like to do that.

I get more out of that.

I got more out of what the Blaze did when we just talked to them for about, what, 30 or 40 minutes, one at a time, one right after another.

Now it takes some commitment for you because it took all day.

But you want to know who these people are?

That's the way to do it.

And they just, they either hung themselves or not.

Yeah, you didn't see Asa Hutchinson on that stage, did you?

No.

And there's a good, part of that is because of the way he played to the audience in Iowa.

I didn't learn a single thing last night.

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One of my favorite parts of this debate was all of these candidates and their focused stare to try to understand the question she was asking.

Because you could tell if they really focused, they could pick out the words.

But like, look, let's be honest, it was hard to understand some of her.

It's hard to understand her.

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So here's Chris Christie on the shutdown of the government.

Listen to this.

Voters should blame everybody who's in Washington, D.C.

They get sent down there to do the job, and they've been failing at doing the job for a very long time.

And let's be honest about this with the voters.

You know, during the Trump administration, they added $7 trillion.

$7 trillion in national debt.

And now the Biden administration has put another $5 trillion on and counting.

They have failed and they're in the spot they're in now because none of them are willing to tell the truth.

None of them are willing to take on the difficult issues.

They just want to keep kicking the can down the road.

And the inflation that Nikki spoke about is absolutely right and it's caused by government spending.

And that's why people all across this country are suffering tonight.

And yet we don't get any answers because Joe Biden hides.

in his basement and won't answer as to why he's raising the debt the way he's done.

And Donald Trump hides behind the walls of his golf clubs and won't show up here to answer questions like all the rest of us are up here to answer.

He put $7 trillion on the debt.

He should be in this room to answer those questions for the people you talk about who are suffering.

And if the government, and if the government closes, and if the government closes,

it is to the blame of everyone in Washington, D.C.

who has failed to do their job and just plays to the grandstand.

And you know what?

I have to tell you, Ron DeSantis responded to this by saying exactly the same thing I was screaming at my television, and that is, they are doing their job by shutting down the government.

Because no one will do their job, a few American patriots will stand up and say, we can't keep doing this.

All you were doing was blaming everybody for it with no solution except to pass the continuing resolution.

No,

that's what got us here.

No.

And by the way, I would

love

for people to echo this question all across the country and demand that

Kevin McCarthy answers the question,

where do you stand on the Schumer

McConnell continuing resolution?

Where do you stand on that?

You fine with that?

Or is it a no-go?

Because Americans deserve to know where the Speaker of the House is.

He can't play it both ways.

Oh, you know, we're doing our best.

We're doing our best.

Gosh darn it.

We have to do this, continue.

No, it is time for American politicians, and especially the conservatives, the only one, the real conservatives, the only ones that actually care about the spending and the survival of our economic system to stand up and say, no more continuing resolutions, no more.

You know, they shut down the American people, they shut us down for almost a year.

They thought that you could go without a job, your small business, it could stay open.

They shut us down for almost a year, and they're crying that they can't make it for what, a week, two weeks.

Hell, I say, close them down for a year.

Close them down for a year.

They did it to the American people.

Well, we found a way to survive.

Why should they not receive the same 15 days to

slow down the curve of spending?

And when they come back, they should all wear masks for no reason.

I mean, that's not going to do anything, but I think they should all wear masks when they come back.

And by the way,

that debate then went to

DeSantis's response, which I appreciated.

I did too.

But then Pence coming in and criticizing DeSantis on his spending.

I'm like, look,

you were vice president of the United States.

Your congressional record at this point means very little, frankly.

You were vice president of the United States for four years.

And as Christy correctly pointed out, they added something like $7 trillion to the debt when he was vice president.

You don't get to criticize other people on spending after that.

Now, look.

The economic record of Trump Pence in many ways was strong, but at no point did they prioritize cutting spending.

At no point did they pay.

Because Donald Trump honestly doesn't have a problem with debt.

And the reason why he doesn't have a problem with debt is if you know you're buying a house and you know you're going to get a raise,

you're about to explode.

You don't worry about that house that everybody says you shouldn't buy that house.

You can't afford that house.

Don't worry.

My income is going to go up.

Now, that's a bet.

Now, Donald Trump bet correctly

that things would get better in America.

However, because Donald Trump or we don't have a magic wand where we're always going to have the great economic times, when it comes back to bite you in the ass and you

lose your job or all of a sudden a new boss comes in and he changes policies and cuts your bonuses or whatever it is,

then you're sitting with that big, huge house and you can't afford to pay it.

That's the problem.

I mean, look, Trump called himself the king of debt a million times, right?

That's true, his theory.

But part of the bet you're talking about is unforeseen circumstances.

Correct.

Like interest rates going way up, like COVID, like war.

And

that's why you don't bet like that.

And I think it's totally fair to be critical of his record when it comes to spending.

It's one of the things it would be great if he was on stage that he would be asked about.

But if you're one of the two people in the ticket that did that, Trump Pence, you can't be hitting other candidates on that issue.

So here's the thing: I want to talk about one other thing that they talked about last night, and it really pissed me off.

No, but because nobody got it right about the striking workers in Detroit.

And I know we have a new station in Detroit.

Just hang on for a second.

I don't know if I'm going to make friends or enemies, but just hear me out.

I have no sympathy for the auto

makers, the manufacturers.

Why?

Because they got into bed with the federal government in 08 with the bailout, and they knew that they were never going to be able to extract themselves from it.

And they had to dump things like the hydrogen car, which was way down the road.

It was much more well-defined.

There were already service stations.

Shell was about to transform all of their service stations and carry hydrogen.

But because, all the green, you know, the green lovers and Barack Obama and he wanted an electric, why would you want an electric?

When you can make the energy here in America, hydrogen, 100% clean, why would you want to go to a battery that has all kinds of problems, environmentally speaking, and you don't have the stuff to make them here in America?

Why would you do that?

Well, they got into bed.

Congratulations, Chevy.

You can start more fires than all of the Boy Scouts in America can ever start.

So I have no sympathy for them.

I have no sympathy for the United Auto Workers Union.

Those guys went in deep for Joe Biden.

Now, they held out for a while because they didn't like his policies on green, but they eventually gave all their money and all their support to Joe Biden.

And what did they get?

What did they get?

Well, they got a hammer to the head for all of the workers.

But believe you me, there's a reason why these auto worker unions are doing this because we're going into a global economy where we will unionize all countries all across the world.

And guess who will get that extra

income?

The United Auto Workers and all the other union.

Why do you think

Randy Weingarten was over in Ukraine?

Because they're going to have United Teachers Foundations over in Ukraine.

That's how these unions are going to win.

How could they possibly win when they are screwing, their endorsement is screwing the auto workers?

The auto workers, you know why they want so much money and they want now a four-day workweek and everything else?

Because they know their jobs are gone.

They know it doesn't take that many people that can be done here in America to make an automobile if it's all electric.

It takes fewer workers to do it and a lot of it, the batteries and everything else, not going to be made here.

They'll be made here like, you know,

like American Giant makes clothes here.

Okay, well, there's one company that you could, but that's not 98% of the product coming from America.

That's 1% of the product coming from America.

And they know it.

And they know it.

But what does Joe Biden do?

Now remember, we bailed out the auto industry in 08.

That's what got them into bed.

Now to get them, Ford has lost $2 billion this year alone, all because of the EV.

So what does Joe Biden say?

Joe Biden goes and says, they need this pay raise.

Well, I'm all for pay raises.

I'm for pay raises because everybody's losing money because of inflation.

But what causes inflation?

Inflation is caused by the government just printing more money.

So what are they doing?

They are printing money so they can give the money to the big

you know Ford and Chrysler and everybody else.

They can give these big bailouts to them and they're subsidizing every car if it's the car they want.

They're subsidizing every car.

So that's what's causing your inflation.

I mean, just that alone is enough damage.

But they're doing that on everything.

Everything.

So I'm for them getting raises.

I'm for them having a good life, just like I'm for everybody.

having good health care and everything else.

But Joe Biden comes and says, yeah, you deserve that particular raise you're asking for, which is what, 100?

It works out to like $135 an hour, something like that.

The most expensive auto bill is $60 or $65

an hour.

China is practically slave labor.

Now, I'm not suggesting that

we do slave labor, and I'm not suggesting that we don't do $70 an hour.

It's expensive to live here in America.

I get it.

But you want to put the big three auto workers out of business.

You start paying your auto workers $135 an hour,

which Joe Biden is for.

They'll have money, but the money that it will cost the average person to buy the car,

how much more will that add to the price tag?

So you won't buy American cars because they'll be too expensive in America.

And so what will the government do?

The government will make new incentives and print more money and try to offset that cost so you'll buy American.

You're in the death cycle.

You're in the death cycle right now.

Why will no one say this in a debate?

Why will no one actually talk

about

inflation and what is causing inflation.

The price of your food is not going up.

Okay, you have to understand this.

The price of your food is not going up.

The value of your dollar is going down.

That's what's happening.

Well, these people are getting rich off the backs of the American people.

No,

it takes more dollars to buy the same thing.

It's inflation.

Everything the government is doing right now is destroying our economy, destroying our dollar, destroying your ability to keep your head above water.

And that is all Biden and this worthless bunch of economic geniuses who are doing things under different names that have always failed.

Always failed.

Would have liked to hear that last night.

Would have liked to hear that instead of the placading of the unions and the placating of, and then just blaming i i'm sick of it i'm sick of it

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We are seeing the courage of so many people standing up and fighting for what they believe is right.

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For instance, we shouldn't mutilate a child's gender.

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No, I don't think you should be able to decide those things until you're stable as an adult, until your brain is fully developed, which is like 25 years old.

No gender mutilation on kids, but that's that's now a controversial issue issue to say that.

Well, we talked yesterday to a guy in British Columbia, Canada.

He is a father.

His daughter was groomed in the British Columbia school system to believe she was really a boy.

The children's hospital sent him a letter stating that they had the right to medically transition his child against his consent.

That led to over five years in the Canadian court system.

The guy is, I mean, you can imagine how broke you'd be after five years of this.

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he wouldn't shut up about it.

And the court system said, you got to stop talking to people.

Well, he is risking more court time by just coming on the radio.

I'm not going to use his name again today, but I wanted to spend another, you know, 15 or 20 minutes with him today to find out what he did right, what he did wrong.

What do you recommend people do to be able to fight this in our own school?

This is something that, well, they, when they asked the question, I didn't really hear a good clear answer last night on the debate from anybody.

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As we said yesterday, I'm not going to give you this man's name for fear of even more reprisals by his government in British Columbia.

I'm just going to call him Dad.

Welcome to the program.

Welcome back, Dad.

Yeah, thank you.

Thank you.

How are you today?

Well, I'm good.

I'm hoping you come with

some advice and some answers for us because you didn't win the fight.

You haven't talked to your daughter now in three years because they gave her a choice, right?

They did.

I mean, the ruling from the courts back in 2019 was that she had the right to inject herself with testosterone and pretty much do whatever she wanted to do as if she was an adult.

They took that right away from me.

And

of course, once that happened, this is where I kind of left off a bit yesterday as I dropped my two lawyers.

And

I had a choice to make at that point in time.

You know, we weren't going to pursue it to the Supreme Court of Canada, but I I was sitting on something that was super important that I thought everybody should know it, you know.

And so I had to decide what to do with that information.

Do I follow the courts and continue to be gagged and kind of watch other children get mutilated when I know what I know?

And do I have a choice in that way?

And I felt that I did.

And I didn't feel bound by court orders when the court orders.

were so harmful to children.

And so, you know, I was even talking with some media at that time.

And I remember one fellow was saying, you know,

this is probably your opportunity to become a leader in this, you know, make a big, bold decision and just move forward.

And so I did.

I had a lot of people that were telling me to just stay quiet.

We'll find another case.

We'll figure this out.

Maybe we'll get...

And

I thought, no.

And so I did.

I broke all the gag orders I was under.

I went and did a whole bunch of interviews to the point where I wasn't the only one in court at that time.

There was media people in court that they were going after.

And letters were being sent all over the place telling people to take content down.

And in Canada, all the

letters were sent to Google.

And all Canadian content was removed.

You couldn't find the story up here anymore.

And so, yeah, obviously being brought back court

and

and i didn't stop even in court it infuriated the courts because i would come in and a new story would be coming out in the morning i'm back in court again and the judge is like what's this new thing

yeah and at that time they also believed i had the power somehow to get the stuff all taken down and i and

And at that point, I was representing myself and I said, well,

you know,

the horse is out of the barn, right?

You can't, you know, the toothpaste out of the toothpaste tube.

But yet the expectation was on me that I could put it all back in, that somehow I could go back to the pre,

back when I was being gagged and following the gag orders.

But that wasn't going to happen.

I mean, the story went essentially around the planet.

You know, people wanted to.

I don't understand how governments think that they have the right to gag you on something that is affecting your life in this way,

that somehow or another they can tell you, here's the punishment, we disagree with you, and now you can never, ever talk about it.

That's insanity.

Insanity.

Well, that's what I thought.

I mean, this is their argument, is they're saying, well, the reason we're doing this is we're protecting your child because you're harming her.

by telling the story and sharing her medical information is what they said.

And so in their minds, but this isn't what it is.

They're protecting their agenda, but they don't tell you that part.

That's what they're actually doing, but they're pretending

they're actually caring about your child.

No, they're not.

You know, once your child is out of high school, the school doesn't, I mean, the school is gone.

The government's gone.

They don't care if you stay transgender or not.

The pharmaceuticals care.

But beyond that,

you're on your own.

You're only on a pedestal while you're in government sort of care if you want to call schools that, which it kind of is.

And so,

yes.

So to me, I thought, well, I'm going to break these gag orders.

And,

but that's why they did it.

They did it to protect the agenda because they knew if parents knew and if or anybody knew, you know, generally speaking, you're going to say, why would you sterilize a child?

Why are we allowing this to happen?

But if you do it behind parents' backs,

And you intimidate them, which was a tactic.

I mean, remember when I broke gag orders, this is like four or five years ago.

It's not even today where things have changed to a great degree from where it was when I did this.

And yeah, they would take your job.

I mean, I talked to so many parents.

They're terrified.

They're like, we just go with it.

We don't like it, but we'd rather keep our child.

And of course, they play the suicide card,

which is, this is the only card that they've got.

And it's so much baloney

because my daughter even told me,

she's like, dad, I'm going to commit suicide.

I said, oh, no, you're not.

And she starts laughing.

She's like, no.

But she goes, but that's what the doctor tells me to say.

She's like, I have to say that.

I'm told to do that.

That's how I get treatment.

So the whole thing is a scam.

You spent 70 days, would have been a lot longer, but the Court of Appeals turned things around.

So

you spent 70 days in prison.

I did.

They're still thinking the general, the Attorney General General of Canada could appeal the decision.

They have until early October to appeal it and put you back in prison.

That's right.

The Attorney General of British Columbia.

Yeah.

So he can push it into federal Supreme Court of Canada.

Do you think that's going to happen?

I haven't heard anything.

You know what's...

Again, this is the first in Canada, is that they took a civil case and turned it into a criminal case.

So

what happened was, as I mentioned in my previous, my first speech court of appeal ruling, it took it from a criminal matter down to a civil matter.

Well, the judge deliberately on his own, not even under request from the lawyers who were opposing me, because he asked him, he goes, would you like to turn this into a criminal contempt of court case?

And they said no.

And he says, well, what does

What does, you know, my daughter say?

And that lawyer said, no, she's also not asking for that to happen.

But then the judge handed it over to prosecution services, anyways, and they turned the civil case into a criminal case.

So, this is how hard the government is coming after me.

So, when you ask, will they take this to the Supreme Court of Canada?

I wouldn't be surprised.

Well, this interview is an example.

This interview is not going to help all that much.

I'm going to take a one-minute break, and then I want to spend like five minutes with you on what did you do right?

What did you do wrong?

What do you recommend parents who are going through this?

What should they do?

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Okay, so what did you, first of all, do you regret taking this on at all?

You know, in hindsight, looking back, I don't.

People have often asked me that question, and I don't regret it because I look at all the change.

You know, it may have been a more difficult situation if nothing had changed at all.

And I was just beating my head against the wall.

But clearly, you know, I mean, you know what's going on in the U.S.

I mean, there are some provinces now up in Canada that are starting to push back on this stuff.

Right.

And so I'm glad to see what I'm seeing.

You know,

I look at it this way.

And of course, I don't expect everyone to do what I did.

I mean, this is a little bit of

a one,

something that, yeah, you don't have that expectation.

But, you know, in Canada, I look at this trifecta of death.

We have abortion, sterilization, and euthanasia.

They're going to start euthanizing kids as young as 12 in this country very soon.

And that, by the way, for those of you who don't know, that's not hyperbole.

That is actually happening.

And the kids can just say, I'm depressed.

And the doctor can then say, I can help you with that death if you'd like.

As early as 12.

Anyway, go ahead.

Yeah, so as I'm getting, as parents now are finding out after the fact that their kids are being sterilized, parents are going to get a call saying, yeah, your child's at the funeral home.

And, you know, they did it under mature consent.

But yeah, no, so what I what I sort of came up with is what I call the trifecta of pushing back.

And that to me was, you know, get into the courts, fight in the courts,

you know, get into the media, get attention out because it's about educating people, making people aware.

And last, and the hardest one, which is finally starting to happen here, and it's been happening in many states, is legislation, get stuff passed.

And that's the most difficult one, but it's starting to happen as well.

And so,

you know, I say, you know, I was looking at the numbers the other day, and we have just under, I think, 8 billion people in the world.

And so I thought, you know, I'm just going to add up, you know, the Catholics, the Protestants, the Muslims, the Jewish.

And it's well over 4 billion.

And I'm thinking, even if people of faith were true to their beliefs, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Like, how is the minority pushing us around?

And why are so many churches even failing on this matter and

you know I always say to people you know it's it's not for us to follow our children into hell it's for us to pull our children out of hell and back towards heaven and yet so many parents will just be like well I'm just gonna live with this I'm just you know I don't want my child to not like me well that's not proper parenting you know parenting is tough love And you don't just allow your child to do whatever they want to do.

And so when I say to people, what can you do?

Number one is parent

you know be a proper parent don't give into this stuff

to me that's that's critical I mean this is what they're trying to destroy is your families and the relationships that you have so your

your daughter is 19 you haven't spoken to her

for three years

last you saw her she loved you she shared things with you privately

you had a good relationship it seems

then

yeah her and I were close And so you don't have that relationship now.

If she comes back to you in a few years and she says, Dad, I'm glad I did that.

And I'm a boy now.

I've taken all the hormones and everything else.

Will you

will you use her name

that you gave her or will you

use the name she is taking?

How are you going to deal with that?

Yeah, I thought about about it.

I never want to speak, you know, in a delusion.

Like, I will never call my daughter a he ever.

I can assure you of that.

But the approach I think I would take is I just won't, I just get around it.

I won't use anything.

I'll just say you.

I'll just be more like first person.

Because at the same time, my conscience can't allow me to use a male pronoun for a female.

But at the same time, you know,

it's not even out of respect, I guess, because I don't respect when people do this.

but just to avoid

a clash, I suppose I would just say, hey, you as an example.

But yeah, it's a difficult one because I talked to many people about it.

And

a lot of them will call their daughters he's

because that's what they want.

I think I'm with you.

I would call, I would use a name is just a name.

You know, Alex can go either way.

But so a name is just a name.

But, you know, denying the reality.

Because if I go if I had to take my daughter into

a hospital for something going wrong, I wouldn't say, no,

that's a boy.

I would immediately say,

this is a girl.

She's transitioned, but she's a girl.

Because that would be important to know for the doctors.

You can never deny that.

Never.

No, and that's what's silly right now is that one thing that my daughter was allowed to do back in 2019 was she was allowed to change her vital statistics with the with the federal government.

That's insane.

And so what you're seeing is all of a sudden you're seeing in the stats is you're seeing

girls that have

cancers that only men can have.

Like prostate cancer.

Like it's ridiculous stuff.

It's ridiculous stuff.

What is the one thing

that you would give advice on not doing?

The thing that you are glad you didn't do or wish you hadn't have done?

Well,

I see two camps of people.

I see those that sort of follow, I would call it the Martin Luther King Jr.

model and those that kind of follow the Malcolm X model.

I tend to be in the Martin Luther King Jr.

club in that regards.

And what I'll see is I'll see people,

and again, this gets trendy because it's good for clicks as well, right?

You'll see people going in and just stirring it up, like just getting in people's faces and just being very aggressive.

It's both ways, trust me, Antifa and all that.

I mean, I saw them last Wednesday.

There was a big march, Canadian-wide march

for kids, to save kids.

And sometimes it's just not worth antagonizing

that way.

You know, I think I've accomplished a lot more by going through the courts, doing things that way

than

if I'm deliberately seeking out places where I know the trans

collect themselves.

Like, I'm not going to go to a gay bar and start preaching about

how much I don't like transgenderism.

All right.

Let me tell you, I have an awful lot of respect for the way you have handled this.

I can't imagine what it has been like for the last few years or what is still yet to come.

This could help put you back in jail, just this interview.

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But

there is a story

right now that

one of the main things that Americans are concerned about is this transgender

nonsense that we're dealing with now in our schools with our kids.

And,

you know, who is going to stop this?

Well, there is a story out

as well that's happening in West Virginia that you may not be aware of.

And Patrick Morrisay, he is the guy who's running, I think, for governor now.

He is the first attorney general in West Virginia to be a Republican since 1933.

It's crazy.

But he is now fighting

because he says that West Virginians should not have to pay for gender-affirming care.

And there has been a court ruling that said, no, Medicaid, you have discretion on what you cover, but this isn't one of those times.

You have to cover.

transition surgeries and hormones and everything else, which can be thousands and thousands of dollars.

He's fighting it and he's with us now.

Hello, Patrick.

How are you, sir?

Hey, I'm doing great.

It's good to be back with you.

Thank you, my friend.

You bet.

So you're fighting this, and what are you coming up against?

Well, this is a really important case because, as you indicated, in August of last year, a federal judge ruled that the West Virginia Medicaid program must provide coverage for these transgender surgeries under Medicaid.

And that we took issue with because the state of West Virginia does not want to utilize taxpayer dollars for this purpose.

We think that the procedures are unproven.

There's no medical evidence that it's actually serving the purpose.

And quite frankly, West Virginia is heavily burdened with a lot of other health care problems, whether it's drug addiction or cancer or heart disease or diabetes.

So states have to make difficult dollars and cents decisions every day, and we're saying we should not be forced to do this.

And the court's response that yes, you do,

how do you interpret that?

Well, I think that the court is arguing that there's discrimination.

And we are saying, no, there is not.

That we are saying that when you have an unproven type of surgery, when you have the type of procedure that's not recognized, it's not subject to a Medicare coverage determination, it's not covered in private insurance, it's not covered by the U.S.

military, Medicaid shouldn't be an exemption.

And so they're trying to make this all about discrimination.

And what we're arguing is, no, wait a minute.

We have a huge deficit in Medicaid, and we can't afford to pay for everything out there.

And obviously,

the key is that this can't be done based on politics.

This should be based upon the law.

And states shouldn't be forced to cover these kind of procedures.

And I know, Glenn, we could talk a lot about the other work that we're doing, you know, protecting the integrity of women's sports and fighting off the separate part of the agenda.

But this, to me, is a really simple one.

You can't just force governments to pay for unproven matters, especially when the state is trying to manage precious resources.

All right.

So, Patrick,

when are you going in to fight this?

And where is it going?

Absolutely.

So this

was just an argument before the Fourth Circuit unbox, so the whole panel.

That was last week.

And we expect that in upcoming months we'll get a decision.

And this may end up being the first case that goes up to the U.S.

Supreme Court on this.

We're watching it.

We feel really good about the arguments that we're making.

And I think that we'll probably know by later this year or early next year.

Are any other states joining you in this?

Well, this is early on right now, but we would expect if it goes up to the U.S.

Supreme Court that we would probably have many states join us because I can't imagine there aren't going to be 20, 25 states

who will be interested in that.

Right.

Can I switch the subject with you?

There is a story about James Castro.

He's from Texas.

And

he is

trying to take Donald Trump's name off of the ballots in red states.

And your state is targeted.

And I know the GOP is

fighting this, but

what is the AG's office doing about it?

And can you do anything about it?

Yeah, absolutely.

So our office is going to defend the Secretary of State's office in this lawsuit.

And we think it's utterly wrong to try to keep former President Donald Trump out of this primary.

And we know that this is part of an action that people are filing across the country.

But Glenn, we think you can't exclude an eligible candidate from the ballot, especially with the arguments that they're making.

And we're going to defend the laws of West Virginia, and I think we're going to prevail in court because these guys are trying kind of an unproven theory in terms of their definitions of insurrection and other issues.

I don't think it's going to get upheld in the court.

We're going to proudly help step up and ensure that this lawsuit's defeated.

I have to tell you,

I mean, everything that the left is doing to silence Donald Trump is truly remarkable to me.

I mean, you know, you say you don't like insurrection.

You're doing everything you can to push for insurrection.

Why would you silence

a candidate this close to the election when you can just let the people decide?

I mean, that's our system.

You let the people decide.

Yeah, Glenn, you know, and I've been on your program before, this is the worst form of election interference when you try to prosecute your political enemies, you try to prevent them from getting on the ballot.

We're seeing it in terms of all of these indictments that have come up.

This is absolutely a double standard of justice.

And that's why as the West Virginia Attorney General, I've been very clear.

I've spoken out against all of these efforts to target one man.

I think it's wrong at every level.

And I keep trying to weigh in and block that from happening, whether it's this case of trying to prevent them from being on the ballot or separately making arguments about some of the indictments that I think have very, very weak evidence attached to them.

Well, thank you very much for the fight.

Let us know when the court gets, when the court case gets turned in.

I'd love to hear what they had to say.

Patrick Morrissey is a West Virginia Attorney General, one of the good guys.

Thank you so much, Patrick.

I appreciate it.

Hey, Glenn, thanks so much.

And if folks want to learn more, Stand Top, patrickmorrissey.com and follow what we're working on.

Thank you very much.

I appreciate it.

Biden's first impeachment inquiry hearing is underway

right now.

Jonathan Turley just started speaking.

Turley is a guy who sometimes hacks me off, sometimes makes me feel good.

And that's how I usually know somebody is actually following the Constitution because the Constitution doesn't always agree with me.

And can we just dip in here real quick and see what he's having to say?

It's interesting to me that

the only ones covering this is Fox.

And then finally, President Biden may have benefited from millions of dollars as a part of that scheme.

Now, those facts should not be taken out of context.

They're merely allegations, and they should not become presumptions of impeachable conduct.

Indeed, as I've said in past impeachments,

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The framers sought to avoid ambiguous standards.

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While it may not sit well with many,

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Frankly, a number of the things I lay out benefit President Biden, as I say in my testimony.

Because presidential impeachment shouldn't be a closed question.

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And you should avoid the type of confirmation bias that can occur in this process.

This is, as people say, a political process, but it is also a constitutional process.

Influence peddling is a form of corruption.

The United States has signed treaties to combat this form of corruption around the world.

And that is also an inescapable fact.

All right.

So this is just the beginning.

Last night, there was a whole bunch of memos,

emails, banking records, et cetera, et cetera, that was dumped.

And it is, again,

it is evidence, but

it is not, you know, it has to be decided in a court of law or in this case if we impeach the President of the United States.

But it seems very clearly that something

has been going on, that

if it didn't matter, why would you lie about it?

That's the really important thing that we have to say to our friends,

because they're going to say when all of this is done, well, it doesn't matter anyway.

So what?

He took money.

Wait,

it doesn't matter?

Then why would he lie about it?

Why did you say that he never did that?

If it didn't matter, if it was no big deal, your argument would have been from the beginning, but it's no big deal if he did.

You have to anchor yourself

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No, it did because you fought over it.

Why would you fight over it if indeed it didn't matter?

It's going to be a It's going to be a tough year, but

I think the Republicans are doing the right thing on this.

However, we are also going to find out if they're going to do the right thing on the budget by this weekend.

We are either going to have a government shutdown on Saturday or they're going to have

some sort of a bill.

And if it's a continuing resolution,

it's, for me, GOP is over.

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I mean, I already won't give them a dime.

I'll give certain candidates money, but I won't give the GOP a dime.

If they decide just to

do the McConnell and

Schumer continuing resolution, which keeps the same budget for everything, plus adds more money for Ukraine, I'm done with them.

What good are they?

Do you honestly think there's any other outcome that's possible?

Yes.

Depends on

how strong the Freedom Caucus stands.

So basically, they

control the line.

They shut down the government.

Eventually, they have to come to the table and have some concessions.

Yep.

What level of concessions would make you happy?

I mean, is it

because I can't.

You've got to secure the border.

You got to secure the border.

And I think you need to

rein in some of the corruption that we know is happening with the DOJ.

You know, stop, stop, defund at least some of it, at least some of it.

You just have to cut the spending, cut the insane, just the most insane things, cut that.

If you do 5%,

at least that's something.

But as Chip Roy said on the program yesterday,

you've got to get the border in control.

If they don't give you the money and the authorization and the people to control this border and shut this down.

I say you shut the government down for as long as it takes.

By the way, I'd sure like to hear from

McCarthy.

I think he owes it to the American people and to the Republican voters.

Are you for a continuing resolution or is that a no-go zone?

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This is the Glenn Beck program.

We told you a story, maybe it was 2010 or

I don't remember when it was.

This story has been going on forever.

There is a German family.

They were living in Germany.

They were homeschooling their kids.

That's illegal in Germany.

They pulled their kids out because look at the crap we're now teaching our kids.

You want your kids in that?

Homeschooling's illegal.

They faced fines adding up over $10,000.

They were threatened with the loss of the custody of their children

and their children were taken, brought to school by the police.

All right, that's how bad it got.

In 2010, they came to the United States and asked for asylum because of their religious point of view.

They were

they were threatened with all kinds of stuff.

So

they were granted asylum in the U.S., but the government appealed.

Two years later, the Sixth Circuit Court finally revoked the asylum status.

Supreme Court would not hear the case.

At that time, the attorney was told by the Department of Homeland Security they would grant them indefinite deferred action and not deport the family.

They went to the ICE office once a year.

As directed, they did everything that they were supposed to do.

They were just getting a document signed based on, you know, so they could get employment authorizations in America.

They have lived within the law the whole time.

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Three weeks ago, they were told to come back in a month with all of their documents because they were going to be deported.

That includes the five children that came with them in 2008, as well as the two that were born here now in America.

The oldest children that got married to an American citizen last year,

the first grandchild was born here two weeks ago and they're supposed to leave America.

If they go back, they will face the same persecution, high fines, it will financially ruin

their family.

They'll have jail time and lose the custody of their kids.

And the older kids, that were homeschooled here in America, it will not be counted in Germany, so they will not be able to go for higher education or get good jobs because it won't count.

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All right.

Uva

Romika is the dad.

He is also with Kevin Bowdoin.

He is a home school legal defense association attorney.

Did I get any of the the story wrong, Uwe?

No, it was all right.

Thank thank you for having me on the only thing that was different was wrong was the initial day when we or year when we came was 2008 2008 we have been here for 15 years now yes okay and I remember we talked to you early on

because

your case was pending I think at the time

and you have lived now here for 15 years you have been good solid citizens you you have jobs you're not depending on the government, correct?

That's right, yes.

And what happens to you if you go back to Germany?

What happens to you and your family?

Yes, since our two youngest ones that were born here in the United States would come with us, of course.

They are now 10 and 12 years old in 5th and 7th grade.

And we would homeschool them in Germany.

We would face the same, as you said earlier, persecution with

custody, losing custody and

fines and possibly jail time and all these things.

That would be the same as before we left.

So there wouldn't be any way to homeschool in Germany.

And why are you homeschooling in Germany?

What is this really all about?

Well,

we have several reasons.

But initially, we started homeschooling because our two oldest children who at that time were in school for two, three years,

their personality changed, they became withdrawn, they developed headaches, stomach aches.

Doctors couldn't tell that there was any physical reason.

It was all because of bullying and

having fear to go to school.

And then later on we found out

that also what they were taught at school was diametrically against what we as Christians believed.

So there were so many reasons we didn't want them to go there again.

And once we actually started homeschooling, they relaxed, they became their old selves again.

And they are happy children now and all grown up.

I mean, these are all grown up, have good jobs here.

And

so everything turned out well for them.

We wanted to do the best for our children and still want to do that.

And so you have two older children that married Americans.

Yes.

And

they're being deported as well?

Yes, because they applied for citizenship, but the paperwork hasn't gone through yet.

It's still in the process.

So they are now all included in the deportation order.

Okay, so let me talk to your attorney, Kevin.

Kevin works for HSLDA.

It is a nonprofit organization making homeschooling possible and making sure they're defending the homeschoolers.

Kevin,

what is happening here?

Well, Glenn, thanks for having us on.

I know you've been supporting this family for many, many years, going all the way back to 2010, 2013, and we appreciate that.

You know, we don't know what's going on.

What we do know is they were told to come back in four weeks and to bring their passports to start self-deportation.

We also, of course, know that ICE

has the ability to execute prosecutorial discretion and to not deport the family.

So we know what they've been told to do and we know what's in the authority of ICE to do.

And for some reason that we don't have yet, they've been told to get ready to go.

All I can think of is

I mean, what would happen if they went on vacation in, you know, in Texas and were staying at a a friend's house

i mean what would happen well well you know we don't know i mean they are under this order of supervision that they've been under for the last 10 years which does require them to show up to to these ice meetings so they've been directed to come back and they have an obligation uh per this order of supervision to show up

and you know i mean as you know i mean uva and hana have been law-abiding individuals in this country since the day they set foot on american soil and if you know this family like i do, they will do nothing but comply with the law because that's the type of character that this family has.

I have to tell you, I'm so disgusted by this.

This is truly a family that needs asylum.

They don't have the First Amendment in Germany.

We have it here to protect people.

This is what it means to bring in

those who are persecuted, not the hundreds of thousands of young men without families coming across our border in the middle of night.

They did it the right way.

And this, I tell you, Kevin, this bothers me so deeply.

When I first heard this story a couple of weeks ago, I think I said this on the air.

It was a very dark day for me.

I had a really, Stu will tell you, I had a really hard time going on because I thought, if this government, with everything that is out of control, has the time

to take this family down.

They have such malice that

they're doing things that we can't even imagine.

If they're coming after this family, that's malice.

And

it is not good for any American.

Well, you know, Glenn, it's inconsistent with

the Department of Defense Security's own policies.

I mean, there's guidance memorandum from 2021 from Secretary Mayorkis, and the three priorities are threat to national security, threat to public safety and threat to border security.

So I mean you tell me where does the Ramica family fall into these three priorities?

I mean they are the lowest of the low in terms of being here in the United States.

So you know my my thought is just follow your own priorities.

They're good priorities, but why are we not putting the resources of the U.S.

government to actually enforce the priorities that

they've identified?

identified.

So what's the plan?

Well,

we've got a petition we're circulating.

We hope to present that to President Biden.

Oh, geez.

Cow, we're in that.

We're there?

Well, it's to demonstrate broad support.

Of course, you know,

we want to just demonstrate that the country is behind this family.

Representative Harshberger has filed a private bill in the House of Representatives that's pending before the House Judiciary Committee.

We would like members of Congress to support that private bill.

They can't co-sponsor, but they can support it.

And then Jim Jordan in that committee or subcommittee can request a report from ICE with this bill that would effectively be a stay on any removal proceedings.

So we're asking the Judiciary Committee, the House Judiciary Committee, to request that report.

Tell ICE to tell them what's going on.

Why are you deporting this family?

What's going on?

Give us the backstory.

Give us the reason.

And that would provide some temporary reprieve, at least, to the Romica family.

And then long-term, we would love a private bill in the Senate as well.

And, you know, those are a couple of the angles that we're looking at right now, which would allow them to stay and to continue their life here as we pursue some longer-term strategies.

Okay.

So here's, if you're listening now, I mean, if you're not listening, then how are you hearing me?

But if you're listening now, I want you to go to HSLDA.

Hslda dot org slash

Romica, which is R-O-M-E-I-K-E.

Rome Ike

is how you spell that.

H S L D A dot org slash Rome Ike.

And sign this.

I am on the website right now and I am going to sign my name to it.

I never sign petitions, but I will sign a petition for this family.

This is totally outrageous.

What else can we do to help this family?

Well, I mean, Uva can speak as well, but I mean, what he would say also is pray.

You know, this is a faith-filled family.

They love the Lord.

And, you know, as Hannah has told me many, many times, I mean, we appeal to the Most High.

And the Most High can take action and supernaturally intervene.

And so I know from their hearts, that's something that everyone regardless of whether they sign donate whatever that's something they can do can I invite them I'm saying this without any knowing of my schedule at all here so I apologize to my production staff but I would like to invite the family especially the kids that were born here and the older kids

I would like to interview them and make sure that people see this family and what you're really all about.

Can we get you guys to come in for that?

We would last for yes.

Thank you.

I have done more apologizing to foreigners for my country in the last

five to eight years

that I thought I would never have to do this.

We have done so many immoral things.

We have done so many things against God.

We have so lost our way, we don't even know who we are anymore.

And

my apologies

for what our country is doing to you and your family.

This is absolutely immoral.

And

I thank you for being

people that still love our country, despite what we've done.

And we love the American people.

And it's really a minority that

are the bad people.

I think most of the Americans are good people and believing people, Christian people.

And we are very thankful for all the support through prayer and people who laughed on us when we first came here.

So we feel very blessed to be here.

Thank you for your support.

You bet.

Thank you.

We'll be in touch.

Guys, thank you so much.

It's hslda.org slash

Romica, which is Rome Ike, R-O-M-E-I-K-E.

I have to tell you,

this is one

I will go and camp outside of their house and surround their house with like-minded, loving, Christian people who will just not break arms on our knees.

We just go and kneel around their house in droves, and we lock arms, and we just pray for this family.

And

if they have to haul me to jail so they can get to that family, so be it.

I've had enough.

I've had enough.

And I don't want to be a part of any anything that is violent, is trying to overthrow anything.

But there comes a time where we have got to stand or kneel,

begging and

relying

on the protection of divine providence.

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I'm going to give you something that came out of Washington yesterday that is

the most common sense,

decent,

impassioned plea for what is going on in our country on the border.

I watched it twice.

I was like, I can't believe this is being said by a politician.

This is true.

And the reason why it was, you can tell there was the fire of the eternal truth behind the words.

By the way, we're going to talk about, we talked in the first hour of today's broadcast podcast

all about the debate last night.

It was a horror show.

It was embarrassing.

And I swear to you,

between this debate, and we're going to talk about this tonight.

I want to know, was there a winner last night?

I think it was Donald Trump.

Just because he wasn't there, so he didn't have any of the stink on him from last night's debate.

The biggest loser was, I thought, Fox

and the GOP.

But

in looking at this, the GOP is about to get a double whammy.

They are the ones that okayed this debate with Fox Fox and with Univision.

Why?

I don't know.

But they're the ones that wanted it this way.

And then this weekend, they're going in for the budget deal.

And the GOP is so far off message.

They don't get it.

They don't get where people in this country actually live.

What they actually feel spiritually, what they actually feel at the supermarket, when they go into their jobs, when they drop their kids off to school.

I think the GOP is done.

Join me for a TV broadcast tonight, all about that.

Steve Dace, Stu, Pat, going to join me, Roundtable.

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This story I just told you about,

I've hit my limit.

I've hit my limit.

No tolerance for this.

I mean, I really feel like this

story about this German family that's been going on now for 15 years,

they have come to America because they were actually religiously persecuted by Germany.

That's why we are a refuge.

That's why that's why.

Send us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses, yearning to breathe free.

That is a challenge to Europe.

You send me the people you say can't make it.

And you watch them flourish here.

That's what that means.

Not just have everybody overrun our borders and chaos.

AOC compared what's happening on our border

to Ellis Island.

God, I wish there was an Ellis Island.

We knew who was coming into the country.

We sent some back.

This is not Ellis Island.

And now you have a Christian family.

And I don't care what color they are.

If they were from Africa and the story was the same, if they were from Venezuela and the story was the same, I would be saying the same thing.

I got to tell you, when I was talking to them, I was like, this is, I mean, I should hide this family.

I should hide this family.

This is, I mean, to me,

this is the beginning of what happened in Germany.

Now,

we're still a long way away from a death camp, and it doesn't ever have to go there, but this is how it starts.

You're letting people come across the border by the millions.

They don't need to have the vaccine.

They don't, they can send their kids in.

You don't have to have the, you know, MMR shot.

You don't have to have anything.

You don't have to play by the rules for any reason

because

the government likes you.

But a family who comes in the right way, does it the right thing, proves for 15 years they're solid citizens.

They're shipped back?

Why?

Why?

Because this government has a problem with a Christian family coming in.

And you know what?

This family will go back to Germany and they won't say anything because that's who they are.

They're good, decent people.

I am.

Who the hell?

Who in Virginia is going to lead a campaign?

Have you you signed that particular,

what do you call it, petition?

Have you signed that?

Will you sign that?

Please do.

hslda.org slash Rome Ike.

Saying it the way it's spelled, R-O-M-E-I-K-E, Rome Ike.

And read about the family.

Read about who they are.

I don't care.

And this one.

And I don't know if they'd even do it.

But,

I mean,

as long as the people that are there

are Christians who actually live the faith, meaning

they

worship a God of peace and they understand the difference between Martin Luther King and Malcolm X,

and will walk like Jesus walked.

To make his point, he sacrificed himself to save us.

I will go and kneel at that house every day.

I mean, this is, to me,

this is such injustice.

And it is everywhere.

And one of these things is going to hit you.

This one just hit me.

This is not who we are.

This, to me, because it's the same thing.

This, to me,

is the same thing I felt when we were leaving people behind in Afghanistan.

They were innocent people.

They were marked for death.

Marked for death.

These guys aren't marked for death, but they'll be in jail.

They'll be financially ruined.

Their children will never get a good job in Germany because

all of their schooling doesn't count.

It's persecution.

And it's our government

putting our American values aside.

Let me give you something good.

We're all sitting here debating the border, and we've been telling you, this is so bad.

Women are being raped.

Children are being taken into sex slavery.

Drugs are coming across our border.

Fentanyl is killing our citizens.

and they'll do nothing there.

They'll take these German people and send them back, but they'll do nothing on our border.

I heard a senator,

I heard a senator talk about this yesterday,

and I want you to hear her.

Listen to what she said

in a press conference.

That's exactly right.

Senator Graham, thank you for putting this together.

Thank you for your leadership.

One of the things that you touched on at the very beginning is that Democrats say we have no solutions.

I guarantee you, if you take a look at this group up here, we have put forth solution after solution after solution.

I mean, you look at HR2 and what you're trying to move here in the Senate.

You look at the work you've done.

Guys, I would have never seen the border firsthand if this woman didn't know that I needed to see it immediately upon entering the United States Senate.

I followed up with a trip with John Cornyn because they care.

These people down there, Senator Blackburn would talk to them.

She knew them.

We walked through and we got to hear women tell us their story.

And their stories are brutalizing.

And to Senator Cruz's point, if you're not telling it, that's on you.

Because when a woman sits there and she tells you not just about being raped, but how many times a day she's raped, when she tells you about having to lay in that bed while they come in and out and in and out.

It's disgusting and it's despicable.

Folks, you look at the number of people that have died at the border because Joe Biden has made it more and more enticing to come here.

Make no mistake, this is a result of failed policies.

We could fix this.

We can't throw money at this and fix it.

We have to actually change the policies.

I looked in the eyes of CBP agents who said, We're exhausted.

We're not only having to be paper pushers, we're also trying to do what we did, what we took an oath of office to do, and that is protect this border.

But when they tell you about finding

small children who have drowned in that river or pulling a lifeless body of a woman who is pregnant with twins,

it changes the way you think about what's happening.

Drug cartels, guys, they have their tentacles all over this country.

We need you to start telling that story.

To Senator Cruz's point, they will tell you exactly how much they paid to get here.

Then they'll tell you where they're going, what their job's going to be, and how much more they owe.

Got it?

And guess what?

Just the other day in Alabama, a gentleman told me, if you will come back here with me, in this neighborhood right behind you, you will see migrants who are here illegally, and they will tell you about the drug cartels coming around every other week to collect.

Guys, that's not the American dream.

That's an American nightmare.

We know what policies work.

President Trump had secured the border.

We know what to do.

We just have to have a leader who has the courage to do it.

And I am so sick of Joe Biden lecturing us about the soul of America.

Let me tell you, he needs to have

heart to actually listen to people.

He needs to have the compassion to actually hear those stories,

the willingness to work with people.

And Joe Biden needs the courage to take decisive action.

We are standing here ready to do this.

And what he put forth in that supplemental is an absolute joke.

It will only facilitate this crisis more and more every day.

By the end of his tenure, we will have over 10 million people here, which would make that, by the way, way, if you put everybody in one place, the, what, 11th largest state in the United States of America?

Folks, this is out of control.

We've got to do something.

We would not allow this to happen in a third world country.

We certainly should not allow it to happen in the United States of America.

I think that is

the most honest border assessment I've heard.

That's Senator Katie Britt.

She's from Alabama.

That's a politician who says what they mean and mean what they say.

It's refreshing.

Honestly, you know, we say all the time, I'm fighting for my country.

I'm fighting for the Constitution.

I'm not.

I'm not.

I mean, today is a great example.

I'm fighting for my own soul and the soul of my children.

I am fighting

against

evil.

How can you keep a border open

when you know this is going on?

You know this is going on.

We're killing our own people with fentanyl.

People are coming over.

Women are being raped day after day, multiple times a day, just to get here.

We're turning a blind eye to

our overlords on the border, the drug cartels.

We are cutting our own fences while we cut our own throats.

I'm glad I'm at the end of today's broadcast because I don't have anything else to say.

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We are all awaiting whether Glenn Beck will be able to speak in this particular break.

As we went to break, he indicated that he would not be able to say anything else, and he's now sitting here with the microphone a couple feet away from him.

So let's go on a, uh, maybe a little adventure to the city of Philadelphia.

As we saw,

a live streaming of a

looting situation where when an Apple store got cleaned out, a Lululemon,

I mean, Lululemon products may be more expensive than Apple products.

So that's the place to hit.

And our friend, a new friend, to America, a wonderful woman named Meatball,

came to the rescue of all of us.

And she was able to live stream all of the looting while collecting goods for herself.

And then,

and this is a shocking, I will say a legitimately shocking turn of events, as our new friend Meatball

was then pictured in a mug shot.

Yes, there actually seems to be at least some consequences for the actions of live streaming yourself through a looting.

And

the picture is really one you need to see if you haven't seen it yet, because

it's mid

just oceans of tears running down her face as she's very apparently shocked that she got arrested for live streaming her stealing thousands of dollars of goods.

during a riot.

And people are mocking our friend Meatball,

which is legitimately what she's called, apparently.

People are mocking Meatball because she

was apparently surprised and was arrested and then very upset at her arrest.

But

just put yourself for a second in this situation.

If you happened to be part of a minority community and you were live streaming your stealing of thousands of dollars of merchandise, would you think you'd get arrested in this day and age?

No.

No.

I don't think I would.

I think I would be, if anything, celebrated by the media and by people all around the city.

And if anything, they would blame others for my actions.

So I actually have some sympathy for Meatball.

I have some sympathy for Meatball here.

How was she supposed to know she'd get arrested for this?

What piece of evidence exists in the last three years in this country that she would get arrested for looting and filming it?

Why would she believe she would, Glenn?

Maybe the good news is that things are changing.

Maybe that's the good news.

That would be incredibly inspiring if true.

I knew meatball would get you back on the show.

I don't know if that's true.

I have no idea what truth even is anymore.

Just let me leave you with this thought.

Do not depend on the arm of man.

Men will fail you over and over and over again.

We must start looking toward the king we do serve,

not a king of this world.

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