Seizing Trump's Assets Seems a Bit ... Venezuelan | Guests: Liz Wheeler & Rep. Chip Roy | 9/27/23

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A New York judge has ruled that former President Trump and his children lied about the value of their assets and defrauded the state, and the judge banned Trump from doing business in New York. Glenn and Stu go through various housing listings in Palm Beach, Florida, and their prices to estimate the value of Mar-a-Lago. An anonymous father, whose identity is secret to save from further political prosecution, joins to share how he was jailed for trying to save his daughter from forced gender transition therapy at her public school. Author of “Hide Your Children” Liz Wheeler joins to discuss the Marxist takeover of your parental rights. Rep. Chip Roy joins to share the budget cut debate between parties and the possibility of a government shutdown. Glenn and Stu discuss the upcoming election and the senators up for re-election.
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A New York court ruled Tuesday.

Boy, I have to tell you,

if I were in New York or I were in Washington, D.C.

or any of these blue states, I'd be thinking, I should probably leave here because I don't think I can get a fair trial.

New York court ruled Tuesday that former President Donald Trump had committed fraud for years to build his fortune.

New York judge Arthur Engeron ruled in a civil case brought by New York Attorney General James.

Now, this, the woman's like, I'm going to get him.

I'm going to get him and his little dog, too.

That's what she ran on.

That's what she ran on.

Not the little dog as well, but she did run on.

I'm going to get him.

She did not specify the size of the dog.

That's true.

That's exactly right.

Okay.

So

the

court system and the DA decided not to prosecute.

Okay.

They decided.

Alvin Bragg.

Yeah, Alvin Bragg.

They decided not to prosecute police and the

Southern District of New York, FBI.

Nobody took this on because they didn't think there was anything there.

So she decides to go through civil court to take him on.

So now she found a judge that will say that he engaged in fraud.

Now,

do I think that Donald Trump inflated numbers of his wealth?

Yes.

Yes, I do.

Yes, I do.

Now, what evidence do you have?

Well, everything.

Okay.

Pretty much everything.

Now, it's totally fine to do that publicly.

I mean, totally fine is not the right one.

Yeah, it is not illegal to say that you have $10 billion when you have $2 billion or whatever.

I'm not saying that's what he did, but

you can say that, right?

You can say you're the wealthiest person in the world when you are not publicly at a press conference and there's no crime being committed.

But I will tell you, I mean, if you're misstating things intentionally, that is called fraud.

And especially when you do it on documents over and over and over again to banks and insurance companies.

I don't know about you, but

I've never lied on my banking statements when I'm going to get a loan because they generally check those things out.

I would be terrified to do so.

Right.

Right.

Now, when you have the reputation, and again, I don't know if this was Trump specifically.

This is about his organization.

Right.

So it could be one of his other executives doing it.

But it does seem like it was done often.

And when you're Donald Trump and you have the reputation of being Donald Trump, being very wealthy, everything's the most grandiose thing in the world.

You know, there's probably not

sanctioning, right?

Really?

They're going to give you a $250 million loan and not check it out?

I mean, I think they're, I mean, are they going to check out the square footage of his apartment?

I don't know.

Probably not.

Right?

So, so the judge said yesterday that Mar-Lago

he overstated the price.

Just a tad.

Just a tad.

He said it's worth $18 million.

No,

I think it was the other way around.

He said it was worth more for this particular one.

No, no, no.

The judge said that it was only worth $18 million.

Okay, I see what you're saying.

Yeah, he, I thought you meant Trump.

Yeah, no, Trump said it was worth.

I don't even know.

$100 million, I think.

Yeah, yeah.

And, you know, he did put probably $100 million into that place.

And it is also

a legacy property.

I mean, it's not going for $18 million.

No, yeah, like, I mean, if I'm going to say

neither one may be correct, but if I was going to say which one is closer to his actual value, I would say $700 million.

I would too.

I mean, that's the one.

I mean, it could be worth $200, $300, $500 million.

It's not worth $25 million.

Or

$7 million.

There's no way.

There's no way.

I mean, how many square feet is it?

I don't even know.

It is the this entire like peninsula that goes out of this land bridge that goes out.

In West Palm, I don't know if you can get an apartment for $18 million.

Right on the water, both sides.

Right.

Like a normal 4,000 square foot house, which I would assume is pretty small, right?

Yeah.

I'm not for

West Palm Beach, but probably like the average McMansion in Florida.

Maybe it's 4,000.

Maybe.

I know.

I'm just guesstimating here.

But I mean, a 4,000-square-foot house in West Palm Beach has already got to be

$4 million, $5 million.

Go to realtor.com.

There you go.

Find out.

By the way, 126 rooms, 62,500 square feet for Bar-a-Lago.

And it's an operating business.

Okay, right.

62,000 square feet.

Okay.

With both sides on the ocean.

And golf courses, right?

Yeah.

And it's it's

it's got a banquet room.

It is, I mean, it's crazy.

Could you convince me it's only worth 300 million?

Yeah, maybe, I don't know, but like it's not worth it, it's not worth 18.

This is a

50-year-old movie studio, okay?

50-year-old movie studio.

I mean, it is a historic site in Texas now, but it's not like Mar-Lago.

No, and

the one we're sitting in right now, it's maybe worth $15 million.

Okay.

$15 million.

You're telling me I could have had Mar-lago?

I think I would have taken Mar-Lago.

Did they really say $18 million is the right number?

That's what the judge said, $18 million.

I mean, that's completely absurd.

What year were they talking about?

When it was built, maybe?

Yeah.

In 1945, maybe it was worth $18 million.

I mean, it's crazy.

That is really legitimately nuts.

But I mean, you know, West Palm Beach is, you know, one of the most expensive areas in the entire country.

You know, it is,

it's, you know, obviously like this is a place where super wealthy people run away from other wealthy people.

When they're annoyed with low-class wealthy people, they go to West Palm Beach.

So let me just go to

any price.

listing

status.

Where can I get

rooms?

I mean, I can get from high to low.

It doesn't necessarily do that.

That's ridiculous.

I love high to low.

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This is how it works.

I'm going to put a minimum of 5 million in.

Okay.

Okay.

So $5 million

is the minimum I want to see.

Okay.

So let's.

All right.

So I have a three-bedroom, three and a half bath for $7.8 million.

That's a condo overlooking.

Yeah.

Okay.

I have another condo for $6.1 million.

Do they have square footage listed or no?

Yeah, 2,000 square feet.

2,000 square feet.

Yeah.

And how many millions of dollars?

6.1.

Which you could get Mar-a-Lago for only three times the cost.

Right.

I have

a one-acre lot.

Okay.

It shows a picture of a house, but I have a feeling the house is so horrible that you know how they do that.

Like, look at this.

And they're selling it as a lot, not a house.

Not a house.

8.4,

a one-acre lot.

How many acres is Mar-Lago?

That's a good question.

A lot.

It was 1980.

Let's hold on a second.

Let's see.

We're looking here.

One says

17-acre acre estate.

That's the Federal Foundation, Aviation.

Yeah, it's hard to.

It looks like 17 acres, but there's currently

a 2.32 acre plot, which has nothing on it.

This is grass.

Currently listed for $200 million.

It is

a very nice plot of land.

Right.

However,

you know, you wouldn't think that just land would be $200 million.

No, they haven't sold this yet.

It could be one of those eBay things where it has not sold.

Well, here I have a five-bedroom, five and a half-bath, 5,000 square feet.

Okay, so

half an acre.

Okay, so like

this is what you might throw at as a McMansion, right?

A big, very nice big house,

not a ton of land, right?

Usually

half an acre.

So the house fits, but barely.

Uh-huh.

Right?

Yes.

How much are they asking for that?

11.9.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

That's an expensive area.

I'm just saying.

There's a condo here for 5,000 square feet, four bedroom, four and a half bath, no land,

8.4.

There is a condo, six bedroom, condo, six bedroom, seven and a half bath, nine thousand two hundred and thirty two square feet.

And that's 39 million.

I mean, come on.

Now, the claim is that the Palm Beach County assessor had appraised Mar-a-Lago's market value between

$18 million and $27.6 million.

Now,

I don't, I mean, like, the assessors a lot of times have strange values on homes, right?

Have you ever noticed that?

Like, when you're looking at, like, again, you don't know, you're not doing this yourself.

You're looking at someone else assessing your home, and it doesn't always align with what Zillow says, right?

So

that wouldn't necessarily be fraud.

I mean, you have to believe it's much, much closer.

I mean, $426.5 million for Mar-a-Lago, which

was the low-end value that Trump had put it at,

is

seems about reasonable.

Reasonable.

Again, I've never bought anything in the nine-figures, not even one single purchase in my life.

I've never made a nine-figure purchase, but I would assume

I make them all the time.

Yeah, you might make them all the time.

Look, I'm just trying to,

I'm trying to really, you got to understand, I'm saying to the audience, you got to understand

I'm trying to get Glenn to understand that not everyone makes nine-figure purchases.

But,

you know, a nine-figure purchase, look, the difference between $100 and $400 million, I think for the average person, might be difficult to,

I don't know, how would you even figure that out without going to some expert?

But I got to believe, just

back of the envelope, $400 million seems pretty reasonable for Mar-a-Lago.

I mean, it's probably around where it is.

It couldn't possibly be 18 million.

That is

bonkers.

It's asking.

And anyone who knows anything about real estate would say that.

Yet everybody in the media I have heard talk about the story has quoted the overstatement of 2,300%

from Letitia James, which is bonkers.

So anyway, they are breaking his companies up now.

The court has taken control and is

assigning people to take over

the company and break it apart.

apart and

I don't know, sell the assets off.

I guess that's what you do.

If anybody is in

the market for a really huge,

really huge house that also has

beachfront property on both sides of it,

you might be able to get a deal soon.

This is a New York-based ruling, though, right?

So

what's in danger here are his New York properties, which is the golf course in Westchester, Trump Tower,

40 Wall Street.

Unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

I mean, they were really going after all of it and trying to get him to force his control to be gone.

So, I mean, Eric is the one who runs the company right now, and he would be out.

This is why we have

always,

always done well in America, because you could count on the law to be consistent.

Nobody in my lifetime, I never heard

stories day after day where I went, wow, never heard that done before.

Never.

And that's why people invested in America.

That's why companies were built here in America, because somebody just couldn't take it away from you.

Yeah, that's why you don't want to do business in Venezuela.

Exactly right.

They can just take it away.

They can accuse you of something and just take it away.

And the law did not really matter.

The law was just a player in somebody's curio cabinet.

And that's exactly what's happening now in America.

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No, you can destroy them.

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It's really sick.

Now, there's, on the other side of things, still

no evidence that the president or his son did anything wrong.

Well, there's a new piece of what I would like to call evidence, but

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Now,

no judge in New York is looking into Hunter Biden.

Hunter Biden was sent more than $250,000 in wire transfers originating from his business partners in China.

that.

And the address of Joe Biden's home in Delaware, where he had that very secure Corvette,

that was the address as the beneficiary address.

Again,

fascinating detail.

Not evidence.

We know that.

That's definitely not evidence.

No, there's no evidence.

No evidence whatsoever.

But it is a fascinating thing.

And once again, on an official piece of paper, like this is a document that could be utilized in a court of law.

These records are now held by the Republicans who say this is not the end of this.

Yeah.

And you think that would be, that would count as evidence.

Well,

there was one for $10,000.

And then there was.

$10,000 isn't that much money.

Isn't that much money from the communists?

No, it's a few bucks.

So $10,000 went, and then there was another transfer of $250,000.

But that's nowhere near the

$18 million dollars that you would have to have to buy mar-lago it might be a good down payment on mar-lago i think i think they'd take a bank would be like you know what this is only worth eighteen thousand we'll take the two fifty so now uh the problem with this story is is that um

you know two wire transfers to joe biden's house uh came from jonathan lee

Now, who is Jonathan Lee?

Well, when Joe Biden was vice president, he spoke on the phone and had coffee with Jonathan Lee in Beijing and then later wrote a college letter of recommendation for his children.

Remember that's where he's like, okay, yeah, well, I knew, but I didn't really know him.

I wrote a letter of recommendation.

Yeah, you also got a wire transfer delivered right to your house.

He was

kind of instrumental at CFC, CEFC, which is the China Energy Company that was a front for the Chinese Communist Party.

And this is also the deal where

in the 2017 email from Hunter Biden, where he referenced 10 held by H for the big guy.

So,

oh my gosh.

Oh, my gosh.

What a coincidence.

He got a wire of $10,000 and then another $250,000.

Huh, that's strange.

It's bizarre.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with one or the other.

You know, none.

There's so many coincidences out there.

Right.

It's not evidence.

But can we tell you?

It's evidence of a coincidence.

Can we tell you that

we have it on pretty good authority now that

Donald Trump exaggerates his wealth?

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

Why don't you talk about that?

Yeah.

Okay.

They won't talk about that.

They won't talk about that.

But,

oh, sure, they want to make a big deal out of the president getting

money wired directly to his house when it's referenced 10 for the big guy.

I mean,

no big, what?

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I just, I cannot believe what this New York judge is attempting to do to Donald Trump, taking away his company because they say say he overstated the value of his company.

Well,

if this is any example of how Donald Trump overstated things, he said in his filings that Mar-a-Lago is worth $400, what did he say, $400 or $450?

Yeah, it was $500.

Like around that.

$400 to $700 million, I think, was the number.

$400 to $700 million is what he said it was worth.

The judge said it was worth $18 million.

Now, in 1985, when he purchased, the lowest acceptable offer for the house was $20 million plus $8 million for the historic furniture.

Then he bought the land across the street to connect it to the ocean on both sides.

He bought that for $2 million.

So that means

we should just stop

how incredible that is.

$2 million for the land on the ocean right by Mar-a-Lago.

Okay.

So in 1985.

85.

So he buys that now.

It's worth

$30 million.

All those purchases together, $30 million.

$30 million.

Just with inflation, if you bought a hard asset worth $30 million at the time, just

inflation alone,

that asset is now worth $85 million.

So

just because of inflated money, it's worth $85.

Now, add to that that this is a historic site that has been completely renovated and now also is a business and is now known as the Southern White House.

Yeah.

I think it's worth more than $18 million.

I'm just saying.

I'm going to go with considerably more, Glenn.

Now, can we also add a couple of other details to this?

After Trump bought it, he added a 20,000 square foot ballroom to the property.

And if you've ever seen it,

it's not like a little add-on.

It's not like they put a roof over the carport.

Right.

It's pretty.

It's very nice.

Very nice.

Yeah.

As you'd assume it would be.

Yes.

Now, we should also point out, you said $20 million, which is true.

That was their minimum bid.

Yeah.

Now he bid $15 million.

Yes.

And he turned it down because it was worth $20.

Right.

It was worth $20.

Then he bought the land in front of the ocean

for $2 million.

And then went to Mar-a-Lago and said, I'm going to build a giant building here that's going to block Mar-a-Lago's view of the ocean.

So then people said, well, now I don't want to buy Mar-a-Lago because I won't have the view of the ocean.

And so then he was able to purchase the property not for 20 million, not for 15 million, which he already had offered, but instead for $7 million.

So he got it for $7, which is incredible, and less than the

furniture cost inside the house.

He actually paid less money than they had estimated the furniture was worth inside.

No, it had a lot of work that had to be done, too.

It had really fallen into disrepair.

There was a lot of work, and he put that work in.

And it has also now turned into quite not only a business, but like a very good business that generates millions and millions of of dollars of revenue um in 2014 it was estimated at 10 million dollars a year in revenue the year trump announced his presidential run sales had estimated at 22 million and then the following year 29 million dollars in revenue from this property now there's some some real estate experts say well actually if you could just wipe that if you could just bulldoze the thing and build a

or you can you can't you can't so you the deed says you can't it has to remain a club so they can't make a personal residence out of it which if you could make a personal residence out of it there's arguments that it could be worth even more just because you know i guess that's the way these things work though you'd think something that's generating millions of dollars of revenue would be worth more you know but i don't know that's what some of these experts are saying bottom line is forbes estimated the value of this property at $350 million just last year.

Now,

they also had some people who said it was worth around 200 million and some people who said it was worth up to 725 million.

Trump's estimates were between 400 and 600 million, basically.

I think it was 612 million was his high estimate that he had used.

So I am

pretty darn close.

Again, appropriate.

And remember, this isn't just, hey, Trump says, and the bank does.

The bank then assesses it themselves.

on a purchase like they look at this and they come up with their own number right and they might they don't have to just essentially believe Trump.

They wouldn't, but just believe him.

They might say, okay, well.

He has, he is known.

He's known, of course.

He's known to, it's the greatest thing ever built.

But, well, it's a

snack bar.

But it's the best golden snack bar you've ever had.

You remember his grin looking up saying it was the best taco salad he'd ever had on Cinco de Mayo?

Do you remember this?

Right, yes.

And the thing about Donald Trump is we've only known this about him for half a century.

Right?

Like, he has been in the public eye for nearly 50 years doing this.

So, this would not be a surprise.

Now, look, is there a problem?

You know, this is the type of thing that there is some evidence, right?

Like, at times he has overblown the value of his properties.

And you could argue that, but it's hard because he's also undersold them on different documents where that would be beneficial to him.

And that could be a problem for a business.

And that problem probably results in normal circumstances.

If you're caught, which would be rare, it would be probably a small fine, right?

Like that is the that's what this normally would be.

It would not be, we're taking all of your buildings in New York City, we're dissolving your company, which is what they're trying to do in New York right now.

None of this makes any sense unless you apply the filter of knowing that Donald Trump is enemy number one to the people doing it.

That's the only way this makes any sense whatsoever.

It's crazy.

And it is, Glenn, you know, it's really reminiscent of go to Russia and try to do business right now.

Oh, yeah.

Go to Venezuela and try to do business right now.

It's exactly the same.

These are the things that happen to people.

And because it's not happening to everyone here, it is different.

But what is happening to Donald Trump in many of these circumstances is very reminiscent of what's going on in these countries.

And if you think they'll stop it, Donald Trump, I mean, they're going to pull in the biggest fish of all and then care about you.

If they want it, they'll take it.

By the way, he revoked the business licenses of some of Trump's companies and ordered a receiver appointed to oversee the dissolution of those companies.

Among those companies is Trump's flagship Trump Organization.

This is crazy.

This is crazy.

By the way, the district attorney of Manhattan declined to file any criminal charges in this case.

Yeah.

They looked at this.

They looked at this closely because,

as I noted, there is some evidence where they could come up with something here.

But again, it would usually lead to a fine, a slap on the wrist.

Hey, you know, you need to get this stuff right, whatever.

But it's notable that all these banks and insurance companies looked at this stuff and went along with it.

They were fine with it.

And they all made money.

They all did well.

So

let me change subjects just a bit.

Trump is gaining in the polls against Joe Biden

and they're all freaking out.

Now, let me just share with you this from the mainstream media.

Biden's campaign secret mission for reelection, don't let him trip.

President Biden, with the first lady, has been wearing tennis shoes more often as a precaution.

Biden and his campaign are working on a critical project for his re-election bid, make sure he doesn't trip.

As voters express deep concerns about the 80-year-old president's age and fitness for office, Biden's team is taking extra steps to prevent him from stumbling in public as he did in June when he tripped over a sandbag at the Air Force Academy.

With a physical therapist, Biden has been doing exercises to improve his balance as far back as November 2021.

Since his stumble in June, he's been wearing tennis shoes more often to avoid slipping and using the short stairs at Air Force One, entering the plane on a lower deck than before.

This is the mainstream media.

Then yesterday, do we have the video of him slipping going down the stairs from Air Force One?

Here he comes from Air Force One.

Whoopsie, he slips.

It's not bad.

He holds on.

He doesn't fall.

Maybe that is from the physical therapy that he's doing.

So also from the media, President Joe Biden appeared to slip while walking down the short stairs from Air Force One on Wednesday after staff mocked a report about how they were trying to prevent him from falling.

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But California Governor Gavin Newsom signed a Republican-authored bill into law that makes trafficking minors a serious felony, marking an end to the saga of a bill that drew national attention when a small group of Democrats in the State Assembly attempted to stop the bill in committee.

Hmm.

So now last week we had a bill that was all signed and ready to go that would make it illegal for you to not affirm your child's choice of gender.

Your kids would be taken from you, right?

Yes.

Under this bill, or could be.

And everybody said, no-brainer.

Now.

And he vetoed it.

He vetoed it over the weekend.

And now he's getting tough on trafficking of minors.

Huh.

Certainly, I mean, everything

about Gavin Newsom says he's running.

Everything.

With the exception of him physically saying he's running.

Everything.

I mean, this debate with Ron DeSantis on Sean Hannity's show, like...

What?

What?

You're a governor?

You're debating a presidential candidate on Fox News?

What is that?

I mean, most Democrats won't even go on Fox News.

But he'll do a debate.

He's doing a debate on Sean Hannity's show?

I mean, he's running ads in Florida, come to California.

It's almost like there's a shadow campaign going on.

Yes.

And I mean, there is, right?

Yeah, there's this calculation likely being made that something, you know, look, maybe this Biden thing doesn't happen.

I should be in the position to

take this if it does.

And look, look, if Biden winds up running, he's positioning himself for the next campaign.

Though I will say that, wouldn't you say, Glenn, you know, knowing what you know about media and audiences,

isn't the debate on Hannity Show relatively risky for Newsom?

I mean, if he gets blown out by DeSantis, who's a smart guy, if he loses that debate, and it's on Fox News,

Sean Hannity's the moderator, he's not going to have a lot of friends in the room.

And he loses that debate.

I mean, he's done, isn't he?

He's done.

Well, because Sean Hannity is the moderator, it'd be like me being the moderator.

They'll say, well, it was rigged against him.

He didn't have a chance.

But if he really loses and people look, of course, the media will come up with their excuses no matter what.

But if he really loses that, Democrats are going to be like, why would we pick this guy?

The whole argument was that he was this brilliant politician and the next wave, well, obviously he can't even beat DeSantis in a debate.

Now, if he wins, there's a big upside, right?

Yeah, huge.

If he was able to dominate the debate and actually come out of there as like a real winner.

You could see that being a real advantage.

I don't see that happening.

I don't either.

I mean, against DeSantis.

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I think he thinks he's the tough guy.

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But you have to believe if you're an advisor of his, unless you want to

just completely upend this campaign and be the candidate in 2024, there's no reason you would do this.

I think there's a shadow campaign for a decent reason on both sides.

Yes.

Have no idea if Joe Biden is going to make it.

In a multiple different scenarios, he could be gone.

And the same with Donald Trump.

Totally.

He could be in jail.

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In California,

Gavin Newsom failed to sign a new law, so he, in fact, vetoed a new law that would guarantee that you lost the right to your child, the state could take your child, if you didn't affirm your child's gender.

Well, he vetoed it, and when he vetoed it, he said, because this already exists in the state courts, so this is redundant.

There is a man I want to introduce you to, a Canadian judge, about,

I don't know, back in April of 2021 sentenced a dad in British Columbia to six months in jail for speaking about his daughter's treatment for gender dysphoria.

A month earlier, law enforcement arrested and jailed him without bail for criminal contempt of court.

He fought a two-year legal battle with school officials, mental health, and mental professionals, and the provincial government arguing that they infringed on his parental rights by allowing and encouraging his minor daughter to receive cross-sex hormones without his consent.

He went on the record in media interviews about his specific case and the trend of gender dysphoric children, girls in particular, being pushed into medical treatments and surgeries.

Well,

he he was thrown in jail because he wasn't allowed to talk about it.

He is still talking about it.

I'm not going to use his name in hopes that less damage is done or his daughter's name, but he feels compelled to share his story with you, to warn you what's happening just across our northern border.

and the fact that it could happen here and in fact in California already is.

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Dad, how are you?

I'm good.

How are you today?

I'm good.

I didn't expect you to sound this great.

You have gone through hell for the last three or four years.

Yes.

How did it start?

You know, it started with my daughter in the public schools.

They passed

a program here called SOGI 123, Chance for Sexual Orientation, Gender Identity.

And what that is, is it supposedly they called it an anti-bullying program, but it's actually a policy.

And what happens in the schools is they're Essentially, they're telling kids you can be, you know, you can be homosexual, you can be lesbian, you can be bisexual, all the letters in the alphabet of of the LGBTQ.

And where my daughter went to school, it was where the pilot project was initiated.

And so she was indoctrinated as among the first in British Columbia in this program.

So that's kind of where it all started.

So she had mental health issues.

I knew that.

But the school decided we're going to

direct her towards being transgender.

Because at that time, that's how they felt they could deal with all mental health problems with children, was just to transgender them.

And the idea behind that, it sort of to me reminds me of a video game where you have avatars, and these kids will sit there for hours creating their perfect character.

And so now you have these adults, these perverted adults, coming at your child and telling them, hey, if you're not happy being a girl, create your own, whoever you want to be, be an avatar.

You know, forget about that sad girl, become a boy.

And of course, this is very

alluring to them, right?

This is going to solve all their problems.

So that's sort of where it all started, was in the schools.

Where I caught on was fairly early on, I didn't realize the extent of it all, but at one point,

you know, my daughter went to see a psychologist who goes by the name Dr.

IJ.

because there's publication bans on all of these doctors because they're

clearly so proud of what they do that they're hiding behind publication bans at this point.

But I thought, you know, at that time, this is great.

This person is going to fix this.

Clearly, my daughter is not a boy trapped in a girl's body.

That's impossible.

But instead,

he went affirm, affirm, affirm.

And the next thing you know, my daughter's headed off to the BC Children's Hospital here in August of 2018.

And on her first visit, they're going to pump her full of testosterone.

I'm like, this is crazy.

My ex-wife gives me a call and tells me I put a stop to it.

So they send me

what they call an informed consent form, which really doesn't, I find out later, doesn't mean much.

And of course, my daughter has signed it.

My ex-wife has signed it.

I read it and I refuse.

I mean, it's talking about all the irreversible changes, you know, like lowered voice, increased growth of hair.

Sterilization.

And sterilization.

And what this thing goes on to say at the end, which is probably the craziest line in the whole thing, is that it says the medical effects and safety of testosterone are actually not fully understood.

And there may be long-term risks that are not yet known.

It's in their consent form.

And they're asking my daughter to consent to this stuff.

Of course I say no.

So they harassed me for four or five months.

And I finally get a letter in the mail in December of 2018.

And it's from BC Children's Hospital.

And they say, we don't need your consent.

We're going to give her testosterone anyways under something in British Columbia called the Infants Act.

And they said, But you've got two weeks to file in court.

The Infant Act?

They call it the Infants Act here in British Columbia.

And wait, wait, how old is your daughter at this time?

At this time, she's 14.

Okay,

this started when she was 11.

I would say around 11, grade four and five.

Okay, and she's not an infant now.

I just want to make sure she's not an infant.

No, currently,

she'll turn 19 in October.

Okay.

So, yeah, that tells you how long I've been battling this

is that she's now, she's

finally not going to be an infant, a minor soon.

But

so anyway, so I take it to court because I'm thinking, you know, even forget about the LGBTQ component to this.

Common sense says you don't medically do something like this to a child or a minor.

Correct.

You know, just like you wouldn't let a child say, oh, I can't have, I don't have feeling in my arm, so I'm just going to have it cut off.

Well, you don't let kids do this stuff but uh boy did i have a wake-up call just to find out what i was in the middle of and uh so yeah i filed uh what they call a notes of motion in bc provincial court in uh yeah december of 2018 and and that's led to five years in the courts and to prison as you mentioned

so and you went to prison why

Yeah, that's sort of phase two of the story.

The first part has to deal with my actual battle to save my daughter from, you know, being a victim of all of this stuff, of the cross-sex hormones and the puberty blockers.

And so what happened is in court in January,

the judge said that, you know, for me to misgender my daughter, for example, was going to be considered family violence.

And all of these crazy things came out.

I was not allowed to dissuade her from, I could only affirm, affirm, affirm, or that was family violence.

So all of these rules were suddenly put on, which pretty much eliminated my ability to parent her on this issue at all.

And

so what I did is

I spoke with the Federalists after that ruling, and I said to the Federalists, I said, well, it's a delusion.

I'm going to keep calling my daughter a daughter.

I mean, that's the reality.

I don't care if the courts tell me to lie.

And so I was hauling in for family violence under another judge.

And then this is when they added all of the stuff where I could be arrested again.

They put a protection order on me and said I could be arrested without warrant by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

And

for what?

What do you mean, arrested without warrant?

For what?

Arrest if somebody thought that I was misgendering my daughter

or not affirming her.

So it was really kind of

vague.

It was really vague.

And it showed you at the the time the power that the transgender activists really had on this province and probably to some extent still do, although things are changing just like they are in the United States.

Slowly.

That they could get away with something like this.

Now,

where the change kind of came in, and this is,

I should probably hit on this quickly, is the National Post, the big newspaper up here in January, when the court case is kind of starting.

They put out a front page article on it.

You know, who decides, the parent, the doctor.

Now, the problem is they were trying to put my daughter on a pedestal because that had worked well for the transgender activists, is that you shame the father, but you do it publicly.

But the problem was all the comments at the end of the story were supporting my position, and they were really going after the trans.

And so this is when they thought, okay, new tactic.

We're not going to do this way anymore.

We're going to gag this dad.

We're going to shut the story down.

Parents are not allowed to know what's going on because this is not going to do well for us.

This will end it.

And that's essentially what they tried to do.

And so there was a gag order against you.

You would be sent to prison if you violated the gag order and spoke to any press member or was it anybody about what you were going through?

The honest truth, and this may sound super crazy, but my gag order actually said in it that I could only speak to my two lawyers, not even my parents or my family, about this matter.

Only my two lawyers,

because it's considered a privileged conversation to talk about

this is insane

that's how bad it got

and so we appealed all of this to the bc court of appeal and we did go into the court of appeal back in

uh september of 2019

and we got a bit of a win out of it.

We got the ruling about five months later, and in that ruling, the BC Court of Appeal said, well,

we're going to take away the protection order.

We're going to make it a civil order instead of a criminal one.

And they also said, I do have the right to dissuade my daughter from being transgender.

They said, we're taking away the affirmation model.

And they also said

that, yeah,

under the Infants Act, the parents don't get to decide what their child wants to do, but neither does the child.

So essentially what they said is, well, it's on the shoulders of the doctors alone.

Oh, my God.

So the doctors here in BC decide whether your daughter transitions or not.

The good news in that is that when this contagion possibly comes to an end, which it will, there's going to be a lot of law cases and a lot of, you know, girls being transitioned to boys that now have the right to go and sue that doctor and say, hey, you know, why did you transition me?

I didn't really know what I was talking about.

And yet you thought I was doing the right thing.

And

this is the reason why I fight this so hard, is because my daughter is never going to be able to come come up to me personally and say, hey, dad, why did you rush me down, you know, to the gender clinic?

And I'll say, I didn't.

I did the opposite.

I tried to save you from going to that gender clinic, but you were rushed there by the government.

Do you have any

go ahead?

Oh, I was going to say, keep in mind, in this case, it's not about parental rights at all.

It's the government that transitioned my daughter.

It has nothing to do with me or my ex-wife, what our positions were.

It was the government itself, which is a bit different than what's happening in the U.S., where they're kind of, I believe, handing off kids to the parent who will transition.

All right.

Here it doesn't even matter.

Hold on just a second.

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So we're talking to a dad from British Columbia.

He was

forced to watch as his 14-year-old daughter was destroyed and sterilized by court-ordered testosterone injections.

Is she, do you have any relationship with her now?

I don't right now, and I can tell you a bit what happened because this is actually part of what they do over there on the far left.

is

my daughter would sneak over to my place and she would have to tell

my ex-wife, her mom, that she was visiting friends at school.

And of course, the lesbian activist lawyer, Barbara Finley, attached herself as the lawyer for my daughter.

And

so what happened is my daughter at one point came and said to me, she goes, Dad, I can't come over and see you anymore.

And I asked her, why is that?

And she said, well, they're giving me a choice.

They said, if I keep seeing you, they won't fight for me to get my hormones and my transgender stuff.

And so they said,

essentially, they bribed her.

They said, pick your dad or pick

becoming a boy.

And I haven't heard from her since.

I guess she chose to become a boy.

And so this is what they do with these kids, these vulnerable kids, is

they really gang up and bully on these kids to get them to transition.

And it's, it's, yeah, I mean, my daughter was a complete victim.

But again, this also destroys families.

And that's also, I think, part of

the intention is to destroy families as well.

So to answer the question, no, I haven't seen her, not since Christmas of 2019.

Oh, my gosh.

Last time I saw her.

Let me,

if I can, just tell you that

amazing things happen over time.

My daughter went to Fordham University.

And I was working in New York at the time, and they totally flipped her against me.

I mean, totally flipped her against me.

I was a

bigot because I wouldn't agree with

gay marriage.

I'd never been against gay marriage.

I'm more of a libertarian on this.

I just don't think the government has any right to be in anybody's marriage, period.

And

she was convinced because they held rallies against me and everything else at her school that, you know.

Oh, wow.

And I thought I lost her forever.

And

after a while of getting out of school and being, you know,

just being out from underneath the thumb, she began to see things differently, and we're very close today.

So hopefully it won't last forever.

It's just going to be an agonizing time that you lose with your daughter, and I'm sorry for that.

So whoa, go ahead.

Well, that's that isn't, yeah, and that's encouraging because that's, you know,

I go through this with that, with my conscience clean and I hope that, you know, my arms are wide open waiting for her to come back after, you know, she's done

whatever she's doing,

which is terrible, which is terrible for herself.

But she, but, you know, I'm waiting here for her.

And I would like to think that at the end of the day, you know, it's going to be those that affirmed her that she's going to resent.

And then she'll appreciate what I tried to do for her, even though I...

I didn't succeed with her.

But I'm, you know, obviously I'm so thrilled with what I'm seeing as we are succeeding

in countries around the world.

You know, in Europe, obviously in the United States, so many states, and even in Canada, our

federal conservative government, or sorry, not government, they're the official opposition right now, but

they passed a resolution, one of them being, you know, that they will never allow anyone under the age of 18 to medically transition.

And so hopefully they do form government and they're way up in the polls.

Right now, people want this stuff.

anyways, I guess this goes to the second part of my story in some ways.

I went through the first half pretty quickly.

But

so, so we get this ruling out of the BC Court of Appeal,

and

we're debating whether to appeal that to the Supreme Court of Canada.

In fact, we kind of worked on it, and then we kind of decided, well, we sort of got this thing where we can sue the doctors down the road.

Let's just leave it because

the federal court in Canada is pretty loaded up with left-leaning judges.

And so we thought, well, we probably did better in the Beach Court appeal than we will moving forward.

So at that point, I fired my two lawyers, not because of this, but because to protect them.

So I fired my two lawyers, got them off the record, and I said, okay, well,

that's the end of the line legally for the moment.

I'm going to protect them.

And I'm going to break all these gag orders because I thought, you know, the world needs to know what's happening to their kids in darkness in these schools.

You know, as an example, it came out in affidavits that when my daughter changed her name from her female name to a male name, I was under the impression that this was by her design.

No, it was the school counselor that changed her name.

Okay.

Comes out now in court records.

Dad, can you hang on just a second?

I'd love to bring you back on tomorrow and get more of the story and what parents should do if you'd be willing to join us again tomorrow and back in just a second.

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So I think these debates, while not as sexy and bringing the eyeballs because Trump's not there, are still really important.

The next six months are going to

decide whether we have a republic left anymore.

Really is.

How do we react to all the stuff with Donald Trump, et cetera, et cetera?

Liz Wheeler is with us.

She's hosted the Liz Wheeler show and author of a new book, which I can't recommend highly enough, Hide Your Children, the Marxist Agenda to Take Your Children.

We were just talking to a dad, Liz, in British Columbia, who went to prison

because

he would not go along with what the state

said had to happen to his daughter.

And he's been fighting now for years

and and risks going back to jail just being on the program.

Last time I saw you, Liz, we were talking about how,

shoot, Governor, what's his name from California?

Newsom.

Newsom

was definitely going to sign this bill that

was allowing the courts to take your kids away if you didn't,

you know, identify their gender the way they say.

He didn't sign it in the end.

What are your thoughts on that?

Yeah, thanks so much, Glenn, for having me on today.

I mean, the story of the father in Canada just makes me sick to my stomach to see a parent having their child taken away like that.

And the sad and scary part is that's not an isolated incident that's starting to become more and more prevalent because this assault on our children is ramping up.

I'll celebrate the fact that Governor Newsom didn't sign that bill, but I don't think it's a signal that he's a moderate.

I think he's proven that he's a radical.

This was a calculated political move on his part.

He obviously wants to run for president, whether it's in 2024 or 2028.

He's just hoping that he can convince some parents that

he's not trying to take their kids away from them.

But if you read his veto letter that he wrote to the California Assembly, he literally says, well, the courts already have the power in California to do this, so there's no reason for me to sign this bill.

So let me talk a little bit about wokeness, and we'll get into some of the other things that are in your book, which is, by the way, fantastic.

The origin of wokeness, where did it come from and how did it get into our schools with social-emotional learning?

Yeah, this is really interesting.

So I think a lot of conservative parents are at the point where we recognize wokeness when we see it.

We can point to critical race theory or trans ideology, and we can say, ah, that's woke.

I don't like that.

I don't want my kids taught that.

I trace the origin of the word, of the concept of the word, back to a Brazilian Marcus, believe it it or not, by the name of Paulo Freire.

Paulo Freire didn't want teachers to teach children facts and knowledge in school.

He said there was no such thing as objective truth, so all teachers were doing were teaching children the prevailing political narrative.

And he proposed this idea, this radical idea, that teachers instead teach children how to view the world, teach them a worldview.

And he called this worldview critical consciousness.

Now, critical consciousness is a worldview.

It's teaching children to look at the world through a Marxist lens to categorize everyone as either an oppressor or oppressed.

And Glenn, this critical consciousness is in our schoolrooms today, in classrooms all across the country.

It's packaged in social emotional learning just under a different name, under wokeness.

Social emotional learning is somewhat disguised as being values education.

They claim, oh, it'll teach your child right from wrong, how to view the world.

Well, yes, it will teach your child how to view the world, how to view the world through this same Marxist lens.

And social-emotional learning is not only in every school, it is pushed by the teachers' unions, including Randy Weingarten, the teachers' union boss of the second largest teachers' union in the country.

And it's everywhere.

I remember in 2008, Barack Obama came into office.

And when he came into office, there was a change in the union language

that allowed teachers because they were banned.

If you were a communist or you had been a part of any group that was trying to

cause

a revolution in America,

you couldn't teach, they reversed that in 2008.

And I remember thinking, wow, I mean, why would you do that?

Unless that's what you were headed towards.

And it shows that is exactly what they were headed towards.

Is the average teacher like this?

Yeah, why indeed would they reverse that if they didn't want that in schools?

Listen, down in North Carolina, the state legislature had to change the language of some of the laws they had on the books because this social-emotional learning is almost like crack psychology when it's practiced by teachers on students or by school counselors.

And they had to change the laws so that teachers couldn't be held liable if they were inflicting this on students.

And I think we all know it's not every single teacher that's a radical Marxist.

I would never make that claim.

I'm sure there are a lot of well-meaning, well-intentioned teachers, but it's out of their hands at this point.

They don't have dominion over what they do in the classroom or the curriculum that they teach or how they are supposed to shape these children's worldviews.

It's dictated by either curriculum boards or by state legislatures.

So their hands are kind of tied.

I mean, it's one of the reasons we see this mass exodus of teachers leaving the public school system because they don't want to be part of that.

Tell me about Antonio Gramsci.

Oh, Antonio Gramsci is such an interesting little man.

He, and when I say that, he's a nasty little man.

He was an Italian Marxist in Mussolini's Italy.

He was actually put in prison in fascist Italy.

He's the founder of the co-founder of the Italian Communist Party.

And he's really the one, Glenn, who revived Marxism in the 21st century because Karl Marx's economic version of Marxism had kind of gone out of style for a while.

But Gramsey, while he was in prison, was studying Marxism and recognized that when Marxist revolutions were successful, it wasn't because of economic discontent.

It wasn't because the working class got so angry that they overthrew the ruling class.

What happened first in these successful Marxist revolutions is the cultural institutions on which the people rely

were demolished, were obliterated.

And he named, among others, he named the media, the education system, religious institutions, the law, and the nuclear family, which probably gives everyone the chills to hear because we think, okay, that's exactly what's happening right now in the United States.

And I'll tell you one further.

As I'm reading through these prison notebooks of Antonio Gromsey in the course of researching this book, They were translated into English from Italian not that long ago, maybe 50 years ago.

And I didn't notice the name of the man who translated them from English or from Italian to English, probably the first dozen times I was reading this book.

And all of a sudden, this name just hits me in the face.

And I read translated by Joseph Buda-Judge.

Yes, that Buddhajudge, the father of Secretary of Transportation, Pete Buda-Judge, brought Antonio Brumsi's cultural Marxism into the United States.

And that explains an awful lot why Pete Buda-Judge, who's obviously incompetent, is embraced by the left so deeply.

And it's shocking that no one has uncovered that.

No one.

You're the first person I've ever heard say that.

I mean, it's so shocking.

I mentioned this to you when we were talking last week.

I was doing this research late at night after my daughter went to bed at probably like midnight.

And I come across this and I jump up out of my chair because I just can't believe that

this connection actually exists.

And I look around for someone who says, Look at what I found.

Look at what I found.

Everyone was asleep, so I'm just hopping around the house,

just unable to believe that this is true.

But it does make you wonder if an ideological connection exists between Pete Mutajudge and his father, in addition to the biological one.

Because Pete Mutajudge is not just an idiot, he's obviously a very radical leftist.

And his father not only translated Gramsci into English, but ran an international study group of essentially a fan club of Antonio Gromsey.

A couple of other things that I found in your book that I found interesting.

And we've only got about 60 seconds here.

But

who came up with the don't say gay campaign in Florida?

Well, the origin of that phrase wasn't coined organically during the battle over the parental rights and education bill that we saw in Florida.

The origin of that came from Planned Parenthood, believe it or not.

Back in 2020, a similar bill had been introduced in the state of Missouri, and Planned Parenthood wrote a blog post, which, since I exposed it, they've since deleted, but you can find it on Internet Archive.

And the reason for this, this might seem strange to us because we think of Planned Parenthood as an abortion business, but Planned Parenthood is now in the transgender hormone business as well.

They're one of the largest providers of transgender hormones to young people, which is part of their pipeline.

They go into these public schools.

They're one of the most prevalent sex educator

or sex educators in the United States.

So they teach kids all about trans ideology and then they profit off the kids once they come calling for trans hormones.

Yeah, they are the

largest seller of hormones now, aren't they?

I believe so.

The largest are the second largest.

I mean, they're certainly the largest institutional groomer of our children that is both in public schools and then profits from kids when they come out

seeking either hormones or abortion.

They're a really nasty lot over there, but it's not just abortion anymore.

They're butchering kids outside the womb too.

Yeah, so now they're the largest abortion facility and one of the largest sterilization facilities.

Interesting.

Liz, thank you so much.

We'll talk to you again.

There's so much to talk about in your book.

It is just a fantastic book.

It is called Hide Your Children by Liz Wheeler.

Pick it up wherever you can get a copy of this book.

It is a must, must read.

Liz, thank you.

Thanks so much, Glenn.

I appreciate it.

You bet.

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The ever-trustworthy James Clapper had this to say about Donald Trump yesterday.

In a recent profile, General Milley raised the possibility that he thought if Trump was re-elected, he would throw his opponents in jail.

He said that he would be at the top of the list.

Do you think that that's a real concern, and are you concerned that you could be on Trump's enemies list?

Well, sure.

I think there are probably a lot of people that are potentially on such a list.

And again, that's

reprehensible.

I think General Milley's comment was he didn't think

President Trump would be re-elected.

Well, I'm not so sure about that.

So, yeah,

that's a real concern for

many of us.

Sure, I would imagine.

And it should be a concern for anybody who is breaking the law.

Menendez, if it turns out that he was taking money, bye-bye.

Hunter Biden, bye-bye.

Joe Biden, bye-bye.

James Clapper, not because I don't agree with your policy, but if you were part of something that was nefarious and illegal to influence an election or to thwart a president, bye-bye.

Yeah, I mean, I think there's a real argument that Trump is going to dissolve this sort of, let's call it an understanding between both parties.

They just did.

Yes, I agree with that.

I agree with that.

Well, they at least did it on him.

Yes.

Right.

I think there's a good chance he would escalate it to anyone who crossed these lines.

And by the way, that's the way the law is supposed to work.

Like when you break it, you're supposed to be punished for it.

I mean,

if anyone is selling our country out and bribery,

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Sure.

Bye-bye.

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Hello, Chip.

Glenn, how are you, sir?

Well, I'm pretty good.

I'm pretty good.

I will tell you that, you know, if we cut 20%,

cut back 20%, that would bring us back to the spending levels of 2019.

And people like Kevin McCarthy are worried that we can't even get 8%.

If that's true, why is he still leading the Republicans?

Well,

this is a fundamental question.

It has been a failure since the Memorial Day deal was cut,

in which we, unfortunately, cut a bad deal.

I say we, I didn't obviously vote for it.

And, you know, we have been moving forward since then, trying to get to the place where we can get where the American people want us to go, which is to actually cut spending, actually take the positions that we need to take and pass the laws we need to take to secure the border and force Biden's hand and go through the other issues you and I both care about, Department of Justice, weaponization, and so forth.

You and I have both talked about it on your show before.

I know I can't get every single thing I want.

I know that.

But if we can't meaningfully cut spending along the lines of what you just described, meaningfully secure the border, meaningfully restrain DOJ, then I don't know why the hell we're here.

I don't either.

And that's the question.

Now, we just have to go ahead.

No, go ahead.

We just go ahead.

Well, what I was going to say is, we just passed a rule last night because of the 20, because of the Freedom Caucus, demanding that we move forward with regular order to move appropriations bills.

There's a lot of good policies embedded in those appropriations bills limiting what Biden can do, constraining the use of dollars.

It does not cut enough yet.

I'll be honest, Glenn.

It does cut.

We passed more cuts last night.

We've got to get through the sausage of the next 48 hours to see where it lands in terms of total cuts.

It's going down.

That's good.

But we got to keep moving the ball forward and then kind of let the dust settle and see what we get on the amendment process.

We can't be hypocritical here.

If we believe in an open process and opening up and having amendments, you got to let it play out, see what the end result is, and then look in the mirror and go, okay, is this good enough?

And so for me, we're going to decide the next 40 hours, 48 hours.

Are we cutting enough spending in these bills on the floor?

And this is the critical part: are we going to secure the damn border?

That is a just absolute deal-breaker, 100% red line for me.

It's a burn the place down, take

absolute no hostages.

We're going to secure the border or the Republican Party is going to end.

That's where we are.

So we're going to force that question, but also force the question on cuts.

We're having meetings today and we're going to keep pushing as hard as we can.

But here's what I would do.

I'm going to be very clear.

We should not leave this weekend.

If we leave this weekend, that's a failure by our leadership.

Everyone should be here.

We should be voting.

We should be voting on Friday, on Saturday, on Sunday, on Monday until we get the job done.

Send the bills to the Senate.

We should tell the Senate, your bill is dead on arrival, McConnell.

Don't pull that crap.

I don't care if you have 32 idiotic Republican senators who voted for a garbage continuing resolution last night that gives more money to Ukraine and didn't touch the border.

They should be ashamed of themselves.

Only 17 Republicans voted against that.

We should stand up as the House, led by McCarthy, and tell McConnell to stick it up his rear end and say, absolutely not.

We should be here this weekend.

We should pass these appropriations bills.

We should cut funding, and we should absolutely die on the hill to secure the border.

And if we don't do that, then we need to change things in the House of Representatives for Republicans.

So help me out on something because I was disappointed when I saw it.

But I don't believe it, but I don't know what to believe anymore.

Jake Sherman tweeted out: Chip Roy says Congress needs to stay this weekend to pass the CR.

He says he he agrees with the CR strategy and bill.

I don't believe that.

Tell me that.

No,

that's Indians inside a room live tweeting out bogus crap.

What I said was, as I was two weeks ago, and you and I talked on your show, I do support sending a funding bill that cuts spending with HR2, the border security bill attached to it, over to the Senate.

I absolutely support doing that.

While you move appropriations bills, because then you browbeat them that you're funding troops, you're funding Border Patrol, you're cutting spending, and you're securing the border.

Now you go on offense and you crush the Senate Democrats and the president and you stick it up McConnell's rear end.

That's why I would pass that bill.

They won't pass it in the Senate.

We would pass it with cuts, border security, funding for troops.

That's what I support.

If that's not what we put on the floor, I'm not going to support it.

Meanwhile, we've got to move the appropriations bills.

No, I do not support a CR that people think a CR is.

It's not a CR.

It's an 8% cut or a 20% cut, whatever it is.

Send a cut over there, secure the border, and make sure our troops are funded.

That's how you win the message.

But I'm not going to support a CR.

That's ridiculous.

Do you happen to know how Texas Senator John Cornyn voted on that

Senate budget?

I do.

I do.

And he unfortunately was one of the, whatever the total was, 30-ish or so Senate Republicans.

He certainly wasn't one of the 17 who voted no.

Do you have to move?

Do you have to move from where you live to be in some special district or anything so you could run for his job?

I'm not going to take the bait, Glenn.

I'll just say that

the Constitution only requires that you be a resident of the state.

Okay.

As the Senator Television.

I thought that's what it was, but I'm just thinking,

Congressman, that

that would be good.

So,

Chip, how strong, because nothing can pass without Congress,

and that will only happen is if the Freedom Caucus stands firm.

How firm are you guys when it comes to, you know, the 15 days to stop the spread?

Yeah.

Well, we're firm on rejecting what the Senate is sending to us.

We're firm on forcing the appropriations bills to move in the direction of cuts and to make sure they've got the right policies in place.

There's still some gray areas over these next couple of days on those four bills.

There are some provisions in there that need to change.

For example, there's some Ukraine funding.

It's small amounts in the underlying bill, but there's some Ukraine issues we need to address.

We've got to stop.

The Senate bill just added $6 billion onto a 45-day continuing resolution of last year's spending levels with no help for the border, like I said a minute ago.

We got to fight that.

So we're trying to get through the bill.

So we're united on a lot of these fronts and issues.

We're just trying to figure out the right play.

But here's the critical issue.

What House Republican leadership needs to understand,

you go cut a deal with Democrats to do this, and it is the end.

They need to understand that.

What does that mean to you?

It will be World War III within the Republican Party.

It will be an absolute, unmitigated separation, a break.

You will not go cut a deal with Democrats to jam through a spending bill that does not secure the border and perpetuates a war in Ukraine without accountability, without transparency, and that we shouldn't even be doing in the first place.

These are deal breakers.

So

we're trying to make very clear what we are going to expect and demand out of this.

And a lot of my colleagues in the Republican Party are bringing out their tropes, their tired old rhetoric, right?

Oh, well, you know, we got to be united and we got to make sure, you know, you guys are over there saying that, you know, we're somehow lacking backbone and we're squishes.

And look, politics is a tough business.

Suck it up, Buttercup.

We have to stand up for what we were sent to Washington to do.

And so that's my position, and it's not a hard one.

And look,

again, Gwenn, you and I both, we've talked about this before.

I don't pretend to know all the answers.

I don't pretend to know, yes, there's a time when you have to look at each other and go, yeah, that's good enough.

We got something here.

We can't get everything we want.

Everybody understands that in negotiating.

But the American people are tired of the bull crap excuses by Republicans and a failure to hold the line.

So when Speaker McCarthy says he's going to hold the line on the border, okay, show me.

Show me that you're going to do that.

Show me that we're going to hold the line on spending, as you've said you would do, and the border, as you're now publicly saying you're going to do.

Reject McConnell, stay here over the weekend, pass these appropriations bills, do the work, convene the appropriations committee, move the DOJ, we call it CJS approbes, commerce, justice, and science.

Move that through the House with all of the changes we need to put in place to restrain

the Biden,

you know, Merrick Garland Department of Justice.

Let's do our work.

Let's fight through all of this.

And if, in the middle of that, we need to have a cut to spending in the form of a stopgap funding measure that's attached to HR2 and border security, yeah, I'll support that.

But nothing else.

No clean CRs, no more Washington gimmicks.

We've got to move forward.

I will tell you that

I've been waiting for this moment for about 15 years.

And I hope that we are there in many ways.

You know, Charles Sumner stood up in, I don't remember what it was, 1853, something like that.

And he realized that neither the Whigs nor the Democrats were serious about doing anything to stop slavery.

And he stood up in the well of the Senate and he said, the South is sleeping with the whore of slavery.

And I've been waiting for somebody to stand up and say, the Republican parties and the Democrats are sleeping with the whores of big business and special interests.

Now, he almost was beaten to death because he said that.

But what was interesting was both the Whigs and the Democrats were against him.

And that's what gave birth to the Republican Party.

And the Whigs went away immediately.

The next election, they were done.

And I really think, Chip, that this is the moment.

And I don't think that the the Republican leadership,

I think that they believe they have, you know, all of the big business, the big, you know, the big donors and everything else.

But all of those people are going to wake up to a very different world politically if this goes through.

You're done.

Really, truly done.

Well, and that's what I was trying to get out there, Glenn.

I mean, like, some of these things just, they are what they are.

I know where the American people and the Republican electorate is.

There are certain Republicans who take way too much comfort in their handful of their little circles of the sort of business establishment, and that is not where the American people are.

The Republican Party has got to actually stand up for something again.

We have to actually connect with the American people with a vision for what we want to do or go into the ash heap of history and there will be a new party.

But we can no longer continue to do this uniparty garbage where we are nothing but Democrat-like.

And that means, look again, can I get the 33% cuts that you've got to get to non-defense, non-veteran spending in order to fully achieve 2019 levels?

I don't know, Glenn.

You know, or we're going to have to go figure out how to go restrain defense and veteran spending, which is complex, as you know.

But if we can't go get meaningful cuts,

15, 20, 25%

to the non-defense, non-veteran portion of our spending, I'm not saying veterans in defense don't need attention.

They do.

You and I would agree on that.

But if we can't do that, then why the hell are we here?

Don't come talk to me about what you're going to do about Social Security and Medicare when you don't have the balls to cut the Department of Justice.

Seriously.

Like if you can't cut the freaking, you know, EPA, if you can't cut, you know, HHS and the bureaucracy there, if you can't cut this bureaucracy, You're never going to touch reforming Social Security and Medicare to make it work for people and make this country solve.

So I'm tired of all the excuses.

We've got to do our job.

Last night on the floor, we're voting on amendments on the Ag Bill, and there's a bunch of amendments there that the Farm Bureau wants.

Of course, they're a lobby.

I go see them.

I love them.

I love small farmers.

I want to help small farmers against these big corporate whores that are screwing them.

I want to pass bills to help them.

But I'm not going to just, oh, sorry, I can't touch cutting Ag bill because the Farm Bureau doesn't like it.

That's crap.

Just like saying you can't cut, you know, and eliminate Ukraine funding or cut defense because, oh, there's some other special interests that don't like it.

That's crap.

We have a job.

And frankly, at this point, we need to just do straight up across the board sequesters and do our job to drive the numbers down and then force it to the table to do the appropriations bills the way we're supposed to.

But again, on a positive note, because of the work of conservatives, we're actually voting on individual appropriations bills with amendments this week.

It's been a long time since we've really done that.

So we're working it through the process.

We're trying to drive the numbers down through the cuts and through the amendments.

And then we've got to force the hand of leadership, and that's going to be the question over the next couple of weeks.

Chip, I'm going to put you on hold.

Tell our producers if you can stay on for just a couple more minutes.

He's got to run.

Yep.

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Okay, I only have two minutes with you.

Is there anyone that it would be helpful

to have the listeners call?

Well, look, that's always a question, right?

I mean, you know, make sure your congressman, wherever you are in the United States, knows that you want to see expending cuts.

You want to see the border security.

And let me just really focus on that issue on the border security.

That issue is something that can and should unite us.

If we can't do it now, after 304,000 encounters in August, after all of the things we are seeing now, the ridiculous numbers, the 11,000 in one day in Eagle Pass, day before yesterday, then we're never going to do it.

So light up your phones with your members of Congress.

Let them know you stand with conservatives.

Do not fold.

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Hold this government accountable, DOD and DOJ.

And let your senators know.

I mean, golly, Glenn, 17 Republican senators out of 49 had the fortitude, the spine, the cojones to stand up to Mitch McConnell and the Democrats from passing last year's bloated omnibus spending bill, plus $6 billion for Ukraine, and nothing for the border.

That is shameful.

It is absolutely shameful.

Chip, remain standing.

Let us know.

When is this going to come to a head?

Do you think?

When are we going to know?

Well, in the next 48 hours, we're going to know whether we are able to get these appropriations bills done.

I believe the government will shut down on Saturday night.

The question is going to be whether we pass a stop gap cut to spending plus HR2.

That's debate.

We're debating that in the conference.

And then I think between now and October 13th is going to be D-Day, right?

Because October 13th is when checks would need to go out to members in the military and others.

So I think you've got about two weeks here where you're going to see whether leadership has a spine to stand up and fight for what needs to be fought for.

Okay.

We're standing with you.

Thank you so much, Chip.

Appreciate it.

God bless.

God bless you, Ben.

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Let's just

keep this thing going.

No cuts to spending.

In fact, we're going to add some more for Ukraine.

How many Republicans actually stood?

Against it?

The vote was 77 to 19.

19.

19 Republicans voted against it.

19.

So

all Republicans who voted against it.

Yeah.

But only 19 of them.

19.

How many are there in the total?

I am trying to.

That's a good question.

Yeah.

48.

49?

So there are more than 19.

More than 19, yes.

We should point out those, you know, in fact, can we have...

Sarah, can you just...

It's

some distinguished music here.

Okay.

To name

the 19

that stood up to Mitch McConnell.

They will forever be etched in these hallowed walls.

Please recognize Marsha Blackburn.

Senator Marsha Blackburn.

Mike Braun.

Mike Braun.

Katie Britt.

Katie Britt.

Ted Budd.

Ted Budd.

Ted Cruz.

The Honorable Ted Cruz.

Yeah, I think Dre Cruise is from Texas.

Wouldn't it be interesting?

Wouldn't it not be interesting if we had

two senators from Texas that were like Ted Cruz?

Well, you would need another honorable man, and we don't have one now.

No, we do not.

Steve Daines.

Steve Daines.

Deb Fisher.

Deb Fisher.

Bill Haggerty.

Bill Haggerty.

Josh Hawley.

Josh Hawley.

Ron

Johnson.

Ron

Johnson.

Mike Lee.

Mike Lee.

Cynthia Lumis.

Cynthia Lumis.

Her.

Roger Marshall.

Roger Marshall.

I don't know why you're sounding like that now.

And Rand Paul, the host of Saturday Night Live.

Rand Paul.

Pete Riggins Pete Riggins Eric Schmidt Eric Schmidt Rick Scott Rick Scott Tommy Tuberville Tommy Tuberville and J.D.

Vance and J.D.

Vance and the Saturday Night Live band

those are the names of those 19 that actually stood

against Mitch McConnell

and another

year of let's keep spending.

Now,

that's hang on just a second, hang on.

There are those

stop the music because there are those now because

I'm pretty sure we don't have just 19

senators that are Republicans.

Right.

Right.

We have more than that.

We have more than that.

And there's a lot that voted yes to this.

Really?

It's interesting.

Well, what is interesting.

I have this card that I keep by my desk here, and it says 2024 primary targets.

Yeah, so people that are in the Senate that want to run again.

Right.

Maybe we should be primary, get them out, right?

Get them out of there, right?

So they don't, they don't.

They don't do the crappy job that they're doing.

Right.

Okay.

There was nine on the list that were possible candidates to be primary this year.

Nine on the list.

Nine on the list, huh?

And I noticed, this is just probably coincidence.

Right, sure.

That the ones that we we shouldn't primary, we shouldn't bother with, they have pretty good records, they all voted no on this.

Huh.

Ted Cruz, Rick Scott, Marsha Blackburn, Josh Hawley.

Then the ones in the middle split.

Now, wait a minute.

If we're going to put them in the Hall of Fame, we should put them in the Hall of Shame as well.

Okay.

I mean, equal.

Do you have anything, you know, really

appropriate for?

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

So,

okay, now I understand why it's appropriate.

Got the cash register in the background.

These are people that we should primary that voted against that.

Yeah, so I mentioned Deb Kisher.

She voted the right way on this.

Deb Kisher did.

She was kind of in the middle on this list.

John Barroso, though.

Yeah.

He voted with Mitch McConnell on it.

Now, where is John Barroso?

He's in Wyoming.

Wyoming.

That's what I thought.

And I think, wow,

I thought that there were some real cowboys in Wyoming.

Do they want a senator voting this way?

No, they want it.

What I hear in Montana is they love

Wyoming.

What they love is out-of-control spending.

Oh, they do.

Yeah, they love it.

Love it.

Out-of-control spending and even more to Ukraine.

You know where people super-duper love out-of-control spending and giving their money to Ukraine?

Where?

Mississippi.

Mississippi.

They silly.

They love it there.

They love it.

That's why Roger Wicker voted for the additional spending to go forward.

Wow.

Roger Witt.

Now, I wonder if there's anybody.

Anybody

at all that has a bigger spine?

I don't know, but I will say.

We could primary him.

He was actually our number three target on the primary list.

Yeah.

Wow.

That's pretty interesting.

You said target.

I did say target.

Which is wrong for two reasons.

Strangely, they're opposed to each other.

One is...

Oh, that's right.

One says the Sarah Palin way, and one is the...

We're supposed to boycott it way.

I can't keep track of all the targets.

I was going to say, primary

people.

People.

We're going to primary these people.

Roger Wicker, Mississippi, would be great if there was someone.

How about do people in North Dakota, how do they feel about out-of-control spending?

Oh, they love it.

They love it too?

They love it.

They do.

There's so many people up there that are like, I want to pay more in taxes.

Because like Roger Wicker, in 2024, Kevin Kramer could

be primaried in theory.

Kevin Kramer, a guy who said, no, I think we can keep spending this way.

I don't understand inflation.

Yeah, why not?

We'll just keep doing it forever.

Okay.

You know what?

As they said with Ukraine,

it should also exist with overall spending.

Yeah.

As much as it takes, for as long as it takes.

Amen.

Just keep spending and spending and spending until oblivion, no matter what happens.

That's right.

That's the right thing.

And then

this list is a little defunct, I will say, because by far the number one target on the primary list was Mitch Romney, who shockingly enough also voted for this piece of crap bill.

Okay.

Well, here's the good news.

I have good news for you.

I'm going to break the news for the Romney family,

but his son is going to be running for his position.

Yes.

Why is there not

Mitt Romney son?

Mitt Romney's son is going to be running for...

Why won't anybody join me in the applause?

Please tell me that's not serious.

His son is going to be running for Senate.

Ow, that last clap was just because of the situation.

Wait, is that really?

Has that been announced?

Nope.

I'm announcing it for him.

Is he really doing it?

Is this really going to happen?

Yes.

No.

Yes.

Please tell me no.

No.

Please tell me you're a lie.

I'm not lying.

This is one of your theories.

No.

You know what I can see happening is?

Is it one of those?

Sure, I can see this happening.

But is that it?

Or do you actually know?

Because the last time I asked you about something like this, you seem to know a lot about it, maybe some inside information about this particular topic.

No inside information.

That would be...

If I had inside information, then just Higgledy-Piggledy went on the air.

Wouldn't that be irresponsible of a broadcaster like the most irresponsible broadcaster ever?

You have your answer now, don't you?

Good God.

Is this why no one is stepping up in this race?

Is this why no one is stepping up in this race?

Well, there are other reasons that no one is stepping up in this race, but will someone step up in this race and

stop the

oncoming dynasty from happening?

This can't.

No, please tell me it's not real.

Just think there is not real.

I think there is one person,

but they will not have the backing of

the big money that Romney pulls out.

Well, no one's going to have that, to be fair.

But

think of Mitt Romney like 40 years old.

So he could be there for 40 or 50 years.

Oh, that's great news.

Yeah.

Great news.

And there's been multiple generations of Romneys that have had lots of political power in our country.

That would be great to see.

So I love that.

I love these dynasties.

That's what we ran away from in England, these royalty families.

Then we later realized that was the good part of it.

The bad part was brother.

And the good part here, we could keep the whole, you know, family legacy dynasty thing and then just get rid of all the rain.

Yes.

You know, that's why it worked out well for everybody but Seattle.

Right.

So we're sorry.

We make mistakes.

Yeah.

But so you think this is really going to happen?

You are, you are convinced this is this is real.

Somebody you need to get out ahead of it.

You can't just wait until he announces and then oh another Romney.

Probably half the population.

I mean, 30% of the voters still liked Romney.

Mitt, I mean.

So probably 40% will like the kid.

Yeah, everybody will be like, oh,

it's a Romney.

I don't know which one.

He seems nice.

Could be one of them.

As long as it's Romney, I'm for it.

It's like me with top ramen.

I'm okay with Top Romen.

I don't care what flavor it is.

Chicken, beef, I'm okay with it.

You want some ramen?

Yes.

It's like that with the voters.

Apparently, 30% of the voters in Utah.

Want a Romney?

Yes.

I can't.

Please don't let that happen.

Please.

Someone.

Now, actually,

there are people in this race, and

there have been people who have stepped up, but they don't seem to be

well-moneyed enough, let's say, to

fight off.

that type of challenge.

There is another name that is going to run.

What's the name?

I'm not going to give it to you.

Because I'm not on it.

I'm not going to give me the Romney name.

I'm going to.

And now you want me to soil myself even more?

No, I learn from my mistakes.

Let me ask me tomorrow.

I will ask you tomorrow.

First of all, you never learned from a mistake the entire time I've known you.

So I don't believe that at all.

I don't think that's entirely true.

Well, I mean, I think there were sometimes you learn from mistakes, but it was technically before I met you.

So

it was a very long time ago.

But here's the thing.

And I will,

there was a, let me just put another example.

And this is a very random.

It's got nothing to do with this hour's program, for example.

Not a thing.

Nothing to do with any guests that invited that happened to be here this hour.

But Texas has two senators.

Two senators.

One is Ted Cruz.

One is Ted Cruz.

One is Joe Manchin.

Wah.

Okay.

Now, does Texas need to have one really crappy Republican?

We can elect any Republican that gets to the general, basically.

Any of them we're going to win.

So why do we have one that's good and one that's terrible?

Shouldn't we change that?

Right.

And so maybe in fairness,

I think in fairness, those who are, you know,

riding the short bus of conservative values,

you know, in fairness,

we could easily elect, you know, a full-fledged conservative.

Yeah, easily.

But shouldn't we give those that are a bit challenged in their views

a chance?

First of all, no.

But secondly, there was an attempt at building a long-term legacy of a name, this one, Bush.

who would eventually rise to a position just like this, a person who would be the next senator from Texas.

Maybe mean a George P?

Maybe a George P.

If we could get George P

and

a Romney, but are you kidding me?

That is a dream come true for most of America.

They're like, I want another Bush.

I want another Romney.

But what happened

because they thought, well, why don't we get George P.

Bush to take out Ken Paxton and then he can rise to these levels over when Cornyn's ready to leave?

You slot George P right in there.

But what happened?

That was stopped by the voters

of Texas.

So what can happen here in Utah is the same thing because you have one great senator in Mike Lee.

Why is your other one terrible?

And the answer is you can actually stop this

now if a good candidate is able to defend himself.

Too much of America is like me.

We don't learn from the mistakes of a past.

We just don't.

We're like, no,

can you hit me with a hammer in my head again?

Mm-hmm Sure, why not that sounds like fun bang Ow that really hurt.

Hey, could you hit me in the head with a hammer again?

Bang.

Yeah, did it hurt again hurts again.

Wow.

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Hey Stu.

Yes.

You have a hammer.

Yeah.

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