Best of the Program | Guests: Texas AG Ken Paxton & Rep. Victoria Spartz | 9/21/23
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Speaker 3 Ken, welcome to the program. I'm glad this is all behind you.
Speaker 3 It seemed to me to be an absolute witch hunt,
Speaker 3 but I wanted to ask you one question on this because I know you covered a lot of this with Tucker Carlson yesterday, but let me go into the Wall Street Journal. Why Ken Paxton was acquitted.
Speaker 3
And it's by the entire editorial board, and it's just ridiculous. But listen to this.
It says, Mr.
Speaker 3 Paxton's defenders are spinning that he was saved by a populist national conservative Groundswell to put an end to the Bush era in Texas. What a joke.
Speaker 3
There is no longer a Bush era in Texas or anywhere else. George P.
Bush, Jeb Bush's son, lost to Mr. Paxton.
Yeah, well, yes. So, how is that the end of the Bush era?
Speaker 3 These These people. What really happened on Saturday is that Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick chose to rescue in a rebuke of his rival, House Speaker Dade Phelan.
Speaker 3
The acquittal is perhaps a satisfying victory for Mr. Patrick over his House rival, but it may not play out so well for Texas Republicans in the longer run.
A federal investigation into Mr.
Speaker 3 Paxton is continuing amid reports that a grand jury has been impaneled.
Speaker 3 What do you you know about that, Ken?
Speaker 4
Well, first of all, let me, I do have to thank the people of Texas. Thank my wife, Angela, my kids.
I am here
Speaker 4 by the grace of God and
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those people that I just mentioned. Look, the Biden administration, I've seen him 48 times in two and a half years.
I've seen the Obama administration 27 times in 27 months.
Speaker 4
This was organized by the Biden administration. And people go, how could that be? It happens because in Texas, the speaker is elected by 65 Democrats and 10 Republicans.
That's all it takes.
Speaker 4
And what the Democrats do is they block vote. They figure out which Republican is going to give them the most.
It's a speaker. And they pick Dave Phelan.
And why?
Speaker 4 Because Dave Phelan agreed to this deal with the Biden administration, went straight through the Texas Democrats, and they came after me.
Speaker 4 And shoot, I've been investigated ever since the day I walked into this office. And I have no doubt that the Biden administration would love to find some way.
Speaker 4 They've been working on it for years to get rid of me. And part of that process was the impeachment.
Speaker 3 so um i have to tell you i i think phelan should be impeached himself this was just such a sham uh of everything that was going on but let me talk about the border here because ken while you've been away texas has been a wuss in many cases um yesterday the razor wire in eagle pass uh was cut.
Speaker 3 We have this gigantic colony in Houston, which is, you know,
Speaker 3 they're chaining girls up and raping them. One escaped, tried to,
Speaker 3
and was killed. Both of them ended up dead.
There's all kinds of cartel activity going on. This is a colony in Houston the size of Washington, D.C.
Speaker 3 More people are on the way.
Speaker 3 When is Texas going to become Texas?
Speaker 4 So I literally had my first briefing on all of this stuff yesterday and from my office. We spent, obviously I've missed four months, and I have people that have left.
Speaker 4 There's lots of stuff that I didn't know was going on because I wasn't allowed to get information from my office.
Speaker 4 And so yesterday I spent more time talking about immigration and what's going on along the border and what can we do. And so we're in the process of looking at potential lawsuits.
Speaker 4
I don't have an army of soldiers that can go out and do anything about it. That's not what the legislature gives me.
All I can do is what I can do in court.
Speaker 4 And so, you know, we already had a bunch of lawsuits filed against the Biden administration, but we're definitely looking at more and we're trying to figure out how can can stop this travesty
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which the Biden administration is promoting. And it's pretty clear to me, they do not care about the American people.
This is so horrible. And the consequences for people on the border that are U.S.
Speaker 4 citizens and for our state are devastating. And those consequences with drugs and crime are going to be felt in this country for a long time to come.
Speaker 3 So, did the governor reach out to you yesterday at all about the wire cutting?
Speaker 4 I did not hear from his office yesterday. My staff may have, but I did not.
Speaker 4 I didn't know about it until you just said something.
Speaker 3 No one from the governor's office called you
Speaker 3 about the federal government cutting the razor wire and letting thousands of people in across our border at Eagle Pass. No one called you.
Speaker 4 I heard about that story
Speaker 4 right before your show started as I listened to the news.
Speaker 4 That's when I heard about the wirecat. I did not know.
Speaker 3 Okay.
Speaker 3 You said to Tucker yesterday in your interview with him, and
Speaker 3 it just kind of just went and he didn't follow up. And I found this quite important.
Speaker 3 The Court of Appeals in the state of Texas, apparently now, you cannot prosecute voter fraud in Texas. Is that true?
Speaker 4
Yes, that is correct. They struck down a law from 1951.
And by the way, I have four things that I'm supposed to do under the Constitution. And the final thing is such things as are required by law.
Speaker 4 And in 1951, the legislature directed the Attorney General. It's the only thing I have original jurisdiction on as it relates to criminal matters was voter fraud.
Speaker 4
And the Court of Criminal Appeals, all Republican, by the way. And by the way, nobody knows who they are.
This is why I think they've been put there.
Speaker 4 And i'm i'm convinced they're they're they're not republicans because they struck down this law and it said that i don't have the authority to go to court as attorney general because i'm in the executive branch that was their rationale for striking down saying it was unconstitutional for the attorney general to be in court and i'm like is that the most insane decision ever but they did it and now it's up to the local das to prosecute it oh my gosh
Speaker 4 the travis county the dallas county the harris county was houston bear county santa they're not going to prosecute voter fraud guess what they just opened up voter fraud.
Speaker 4 And the people of Texas need to know that. And there's three of the nine members up coming up in March for a primary.
Speaker 4 We have to find people to run, and we have to beat those people, or we are going to lose this state. Because I tried to get this law passed again so that
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I could start doing it again and make them strike it down again. And guess who killed it? Dade Phelan.
I called them. He never returned my calls.
I was told by his team that
Speaker 4 they didn't have time to pass this law, even though I got it. Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 4
That's where we are with Dave Phelan. That's where we are with the Texas House.
And that's where we are with the Court of Criminal Appeals that no one knows. And by the way, that is our highest court.
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It's like our Supreme Court. We're only one of two states that has this for all criminal matters.
So I have no appeal rights.
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So when they strike down this as unconstitutional and say I can't prosecute voter fraud, I have no ability to get around that. I'm stuck.
And that's what I'm trying to fix.
Speaker 3 Okay, so
Speaker 3 who needs to be called?
Speaker 3 The House?
Speaker 4
The House needs to pass this next time. It's a lost two years that I can't prosecute their fraud.
And in March,
Speaker 4 I think we're going to have three people to run against the members of the Court of Appeals. We've got to get those people elected because we lost 8-1.
Speaker 4
And if we can get three new members, we'll at least be 5-4. And we'll be sending the message.
You cannot strike down.
Speaker 4 Who are those three members?
Speaker 3 Who are the three members that are up?
Speaker 4 I do not have that on my head. I don't have it.
Speaker 4
Yeah, three members are going to be up this time. I think one of them is like Michelle Slaughter.
I think Barbara Hervey, and I'm trying to remember the third one.
Speaker 4 I think those are the three that are up.
Speaker 3 Okay, we'll find out. And
Speaker 4 I don't think there's any more important issue than making sure we fix that court.
Speaker 3 Why did this happen? How did this happen?
Speaker 4
Okay, so I think George Soros, in my opinion, he was trying to do three things. One, get the DAs elected in these liberal counties.
So he beat all these Democratic DAs that were prosecuting crimes.
Speaker 4 He did in Travis County, an unseated Democrat there that
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was actually prosecuting crimes. He did the same thing in San Antonio.
So he got control of that knowing full well that this would affect voting. Second,
Speaker 4 he helped put nine members on the Supreme Court, actually eight. Kevin Urey is awesome.
Speaker 4 The other eight, no one knows who they are. And I think he, because Republicans don't know who these people are, he was able to get these members of the court to strike down this law.
Speaker 4
And then the third strategy was get rid of me. And then there's no hope.
There's nowhere to go. So that was the goal.
They didn't get rid of me. So there's still hope.
Speaker 4 And we've got to change the court of colonial appeals. And we've got to get the House next time to pass this law.
Speaker 3 You know, Donald Trump said yesterday. Let me see if I can actually quote him on
Speaker 3 something.
Speaker 3 He said yesterday
Speaker 3 that
Speaker 3 we, if there is a defeat in 2024,
Speaker 3 It will mean the end of the country. The 2024 presidential election will be nothing less than the final battle for the U.S.
Speaker 3 I'm beginning to think that that is absolutely true if we make it to 2024.
Speaker 4 I told him when he was running for re-election in May that I was fighting a battle to stop massive mailout ballots in all the biggest counties, Travis County, which is Austin, Harris County, which is Houston.
Speaker 4
We had 12 lawsuits. And I said, if I don't win every single one of those lawsuits, you're going to lose Texas.
He's like, what? That's not possible. I said, it doesn't matter what your polling says.
Speaker 4 If they can send out 6 or 7 million ballots or just one county, say Harris County sends out 2.5 million ballots. You won by
Speaker 4 600,000 votes. You're not going to win, Texas.
Speaker 4 They will count votes because we can't verify if they just mail them out to everybody and there's no signature verification, which is still not even the best way to make sure people are voting right.
Speaker 4
And we have no way to verify, they're going to be able to cheat. count as many ballots as they want.
They'll figure out how their numbers are. And guess what?
Speaker 4 We stopped every one of those 12 lawsuits, even though we were in terrible places with terrible judges.
Speaker 4 And I watched election night and I was like, this is exactly, they stopped counting votes for a couple of days. Why?
Speaker 4 So they can figure out how many votes they needed to count with these mail in Dallas. And that's exactly what happened in these other states.
Speaker 4 And whenever I bring it up, they say I'm crazy, but that's exactly what they did.
Speaker 3 You know, one thing I really worry about is the number of
Speaker 3 illegals in our country, the ones that we don't even know about. We already, since Biden got into into office, we have already passed the population of 15
Speaker 3 different states. Combinations of three states would equal the amount that has come in.
Speaker 3 It is, it's
Speaker 3 you're seeing crime and everything else, and we're only seeing the surface of this.
Speaker 3 I wonder if Texas can stand. How much is this changing? If they can just
Speaker 3 register
Speaker 3 or
Speaker 3 get people in here to do voting, which is their plan. Beyond that, the crime, the social services, the hospitals,
Speaker 3 we're so close to the border. If we don't get this border sealed, we're done.
Speaker 4
No, this is the plan. You know, people are like, why is Biden doing this? Two reasons.
One is the first reason, voting.
Speaker 4 Getting as many of these people into Republican states that they can become voters, whether it's legal or illegal. Right now, they can vote illegally, and no one's going to do anything about it.
Speaker 4 It won't matter. Second, they wanted to get as many people, illegals, into these Republican states because guess what? We're doing better than the Democratic states.
Speaker 4 We have low taxes, less regulation, more opportunity, better governance. And they want to bring in more problems.
Speaker 4 They want to take us down because the story is too good for Texas and Florida and Tennessee and Utah. The Republican states are successful.
Speaker 4
The Democratic states are losing people because people are voting with their feet. And the Biden administration says, okay, we'll make you pay for it.
We're going to make you pay for all this stuff.
Speaker 4
Schooling, health care, law enforcement, crime. Your kids are going to die.
We're going to get you. And that's what the Biden administration is all about.
Speaker 3 Well, any good news to report?
Speaker 4 Yeah, there is a God and there's always hope. Yeah.
Speaker 3 Yeah, well, I have to tell you,
Speaker 3 it looked like they were going to be able to railroad you. And look, I know you're not a perfect person,
Speaker 3 but, you know,
Speaker 3 I had a real problem when they came to the impeachment hearings after promising, just like the Democrats do, all kinds of evidence, all kinds of, and then literally nothing.
Speaker 4 They said their lawyers, Blenn, said it was going to be 10 times worse than the public knew. And guess what? It was 10 times less.
Speaker 4 They tried to railroad me out by having no due process, no sworn testimony, which is required by law, no due process, no chance for me to refute any of this stuff, all done secretly, no transparency, done in three days, and designed to smother me.
Speaker 4
Because now I'm out of office. I have no resources.
I spent all my money on the campaign.
Speaker 5 I had no lawyers.
Speaker 4 I had three months to figure out what they had, and they kept hiding the information, even though they were required to turn it over.
Speaker 4
And then, of course, I had a gag order, so I couldn't defend myself. I couldn't go out and talk.
I couldn't call you. On the other hand,
Speaker 4 they were able to leak information to the press, and every day I was getting pounded. All of that
Speaker 4 was against me.
Speaker 4 And yet, because of the people of Texas, because of my strong family support, my wife's support, and because by the grace of God, you know, I just decided I'm going to fight this to the last second.
Speaker 4 I will not resign because if they win this, then they can just do this to anybody they want. I will not let the voters down.
Speaker 3 So
Speaker 3 who's going to pay for this? I mean, is any
Speaker 3 investigation? I don't want revenge. I want this not to be able to happen again.
Speaker 4
No. So Dean Patrick, God bless him for this.
He called for an audit, which I think is fair because they were trying to hide how much money they were spending.
Speaker 4
So I think we're going to find out how much money they spent, which is millions. And look, it's totally unfair to push somebody out of office with no proof.
And then I've got to go pay for it.
Speaker 4
And I could lose just because they have all the money from the taxpayers. And I'm left with just nothing.
Most people would not have made it through that with no resources.
Speaker 4 And that is unfair for the House to be able to like suspend me with no proof.
Speaker 4 And then take away Glenn Hager, the controller, illegally cuts my salary off to punish me, even though he had no authority to do that. And he still hasn't started my salary back.
Speaker 4
And I'm supposed to survive this. They did everything they could to make it impossible for me to get the truth out and to survive.
This is so we are becoming the will of the voters.
Speaker 4 Against the will of the voters.
Speaker 3 We are becoming an old Soviet state.
Speaker 4 It's terrifying. This is Texas, Glenn, Texas.
Speaker 3
Oh, I know. I know.
Ken, thank you very much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3
This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Peter Navarro joins us.
Peter Navarro was with the Trump administration, former assistant to President Trump, White House trade advisor.
Speaker 3 He was behind our China policy.
Speaker 3 And a lot of the good things that happened to our economy happened through Peter Navarro. We're glad to have him on today's broadcast.
Speaker 3 Peter, before we move on, let me just ask you.
Speaker 3 In the 1980s, we had the same kind of policies from Jimmy Carter, and
Speaker 3 we had to jack up interest rates to 19%
Speaker 3 to be able to suck all that money back in and destroy it. There's a lot more money in the system now, and we're still spending like crazy.
Speaker 3 What is it going to take? Can this
Speaker 4 be conquered at this point?
Speaker 5 Well, let me tell you the most important action item for your listeners right now.
Speaker 5 The debt limit debate is happening as we speak.
Speaker 5 And it's probably our last exit ramp before the presidential election to force the Democrats to cut back on some of that massive spending they've baked into
Speaker 4 our economy right now.
Speaker 5 It's just destructive spending because
Speaker 5
it's debt financed. It's inflationary.
It's going to just overburden everything, right?
Speaker 5
That's kind of what we can do right now. You know, let Kevin McCarthy know, no deals with the Democrats.
This is the time to cut back.
Speaker 5 Take the money away that they gave the IRS. Take the money away from these
Speaker 5 EV mandates. There's just a whole bunch of stuff we shouldn't be spending on because we don't have the money, Glenn.
Speaker 5 Because we don't have the money. This is
Speaker 5 What happened in the 1970s
Speaker 5 is they just kept make mistakes after mistakes after mistakes, and it was the same scenario.
Speaker 5
They were overspending Keynesian stimulus to stimulate an economy that was suffering, but then it created inflation, so the Fed kept raising interest rates. And you're absolutely right.
I mean, 19%.
Speaker 5 You tell people that, Glenn, you tell people that mortgage rates were like at 10 or 12 or 15 percent just a few decades ago, and they look at you like crazy.
Speaker 4 Right.
Speaker 5 We've had it so good for so long, which, but that's all another story entirely. But look,
Speaker 5 this is financial Armageddon. You know, one of the things I do is like
Speaker 5 I'm not getting the stock market advice, but I've always, as an economist, forecasted the stock market because it's a leading indicator of the economy.
Speaker 5 And right now, we're on the verge of a market correction. The last five weeks have been just a nightmare in the SP 500.
Speaker 5 And what's happening is both Main Street and Wall Street are going to get clobbered.
Speaker 5 The only people who make money on this misery are the big hedge fund program traders who make billions regardless if the market's going up and down because they can play both sides.
Speaker 5 Everybody else, I mean, people who are working for a living right now are going to see wage increases, but inflation is going to eat most or all
Speaker 5
or more of that away. Take that to the bank.
And then people with their
Speaker 5 401ks and IRAs and things like that. Hey,
Speaker 5 we did a beautiful thing during the Trump years building up the stock market.
Speaker 5 And it's just, I mean, people look at that stuff and they go, wow, that's going to take me another five years now before I can retire. Well, guess what?
Speaker 5 It's going to be another 10 years at the rate we're going.
Speaker 5
The whole point here, I think, is elections matter. And we need somebody to understand how economies grow.
And it ain't the guy in the office right now.
Speaker 3 Okay, so help me out on this, Peter.
Speaker 3 I know that Donald Trump always bets on the future.
Speaker 3 And it's smart. I mean, when I buy a house, I try to keep within reason, but I bet on I'm going to do better down the road.
Speaker 3 And this won't break my back, even at this time, but it'll be a lot easier as I grow.
Speaker 3
And I think that's the way Donald Trump looks at the economy. He doesn't mind spending money if we're going to grow past it.
However,
Speaker 3
we're way, way out of whack. He wasn't the best on spending.
Can we count on him to do spending cuts?
Speaker 3 Yeah,
Speaker 4 you have to.
Speaker 5
I mean, he's crazy, like, start with the EV mandates. I mean, they are basically the Full Employment Act for Communist China.
Okay.
Speaker 5 Why would you do that?
Speaker 5 Why would you do that? And the reason why the Bidenites do it is because they worship at a global altar
Speaker 5 where
Speaker 5
they don't understand the economic implications of their utopian Green New Deal. They just don't get it.
They just don't get it. I mean, AOC is as blank upstairs on economics
Speaker 5
as you can ever imagine. And these are the people leaving us, Glenn.
You know, elections have consequences. Now, if Trump gets in in 2025,
Speaker 5 absent, look, right now, right now, over the next 30 days, we've got a chance to at least negotiate some of that excess spending now.
Speaker 3 So tell me, because tell the average person why the government shut down you shouldn't fear it.
Speaker 5
Because the alternative is the continued reckless spending that's going to destroy this country as we know it. And that's not hyperbole.
That's just fact. That's just fact.
Speaker 5
Look, you've got to remember, Biden, as Vice President Obama in eight years doubled the national debt from $10 to $20 trillion. Okay, think about that.
10 to 2020.
Speaker 5
They doubled it in their eight years. What Biden is doing to the debt as we speak is going to be even worse than that.
And we're only like, what, three years into this, not yet? It's like,
Speaker 5
and it's all loaded in there. And McCarthy, good God, I don't know what that man was thinking when he agreed to everything he agreed to, him and McConnell.
It's like
Speaker 5 it was
Speaker 5
the corporate uniparty basically pushing us that. So my point here, Glenn, I want to bring people action.
They want to give them some action. It's like, tell the Congress
Speaker 5 to cut back on their spending as part of the debt limit deal, and don't fall prey to the sky is falling crap that's happening
Speaker 5 that they're going to say is going to happen. And it's very simple.
Speaker 3 So you see
Speaker 3 a crash coming, or not a crash, but a correction coming in the stock market.
Speaker 5 Well, one man's correction is another man's crash.
Speaker 5 We're going to lose anywhere from 15 to 30 percent of value in
Speaker 5
the SP 1,100. We've already lost.
Look, the last five weeks,
Speaker 5 you know, we're down another percent today, as we speak. I mean, you know, maybe a thousand, but look,
Speaker 5 why would the stock market go up other than the fact that we've been throwing too much money fiscally into it, and there's just a lot of money sloshing around?
Speaker 5 Okay, it's a it's a faux bull market, okay? It's just it's a faux bull market.
Speaker 4 How
Speaker 4 full stop.
Speaker 3 How much time does the dollar have as
Speaker 3 the global world reserve currency and actually being something that has value?
Speaker 5 Well, there's two competing forces there, and it's like the Kentucky Derby. You know, like you can watch them kind of going around the track.
Speaker 5 On the one hand, you've got all the rogue nations that don't want to get sanctioned by the U.S. government for their bad behavior, trying to establish their own currency,
Speaker 5 principally the communist Chinese currency, and that's the BRIC countries. You got Russia, you've got China, you've got all the oil emirates who don't want to be on the dollar.
Speaker 5 You've got India stabbing us in the back. And from a population standpoint, it's well over a half of the world.
Speaker 4 Right.
Speaker 4 Right.
Speaker 5 So that's going on, but the problem
Speaker 5 is also for people who want to get sucked into that, that has its own risks. So, you know, the dollar,
Speaker 5 it's kind of like the lesser of all the evils, right? Even though things are getting more and more unstable here, they continue to get even more unstable in the world.
Speaker 5 I mean, you look at communist China, right? It's like money's corporate money, except dumb Elon Musk, the smartest, dumbest guy I've ever seen.
Speaker 5 He's like, a lot of that corporate money is coming out of China now because they know that China is about to invade Taiwan. Maybe tomorrow, maybe next year, certainly within the next five years.
Speaker 5 What's that going to do?
Speaker 5 It's going to put a you know, they're going to be seasoned Tesla plants there when that happens, and it's going to hit the fan. So, the point is, you ask me where the dollar goes, it's like, well,
Speaker 5 it still has attractiveness because everywhere else has so much unattractiveness. But China is coming hard with their brick zone on us.
Speaker 5 And
Speaker 5 look,
Speaker 5 people,
Speaker 5 to preserve their wealth, to protect their job, they need to be financially and economically market literate. And that's a tall order, okay?
Speaker 5 Because I've got good friends now who look at their 401k and it's like they've lost,
Speaker 5
you know, like a third of it. And they ask me, I go, I look at it, I go, wow, your stockbroker's got you in highly speculative investments, and you're 55 years old.
Why'd he do that?
Speaker 5 Well, you know, that's what these guys do.
Speaker 5
So anyway, I don't want to be Mr. Gloom and Doom.
I'm not that guy, okay?
Speaker 5 I know.
Speaker 3 That's me. That's my job.
Speaker 5 I mean, this country is the strongest in the world, but under proper stewardship. And I can't think of somebody worse
Speaker 5 running the White House right now than Joe Biden, because everything he is doing is wrongs yield politically and economically.
Speaker 5 So, in terms of what you can do in the short term, it's like call your congressman and say, hey,
Speaker 5 reduce the spending or don't vote for that debt limit increase. Okay?
Speaker 5 That's the deal. It's like we've got to cut trillions off future spending or we're going to be in trouble.
Speaker 5 And then in the meantime, 2024, November 2024,
Speaker 5
pick your candidate. You know who mine is.
It's Donald John Trump.
Speaker 5
And Glenn, thank you for the defendpeter.com plug there. Defendpeter.com.
I see this in real time, and we've already had a bunch of donations come in. It's helpful.
Speaker 5 And by the way, the site that you can go to, you can also send your prayers, and those are much, much welcome as well. Defendpeter.com.
Speaker 3 Peter, thank you very much. Godspeed.
Speaker 5
You're a Patriot, sir. Thank you.
You're a Patriot. You're listening to the best of the Glendeck program.
Speaker 3 I want to play a highlight from yesterday with the Attorney General testifying in front of the House Committee.
Speaker 3
This is some of, I'm going to only play about a minute of it. You have to look it up.
We'll tweet it out. This is the most satisfying five minutes I've heard in a long time.
Speaker 3 It's Representative Victoria Spartz.
Speaker 3 She grew up in the Soviet Union, and she had a thing or two to get off her chest. Listen to this.
Speaker 2 Attorney General, you had a very moving statement about your grandparents coming here from Belarus to live in the country without fear of prosecution.
Speaker 2 I grew up in a very similar country, Ukraine now, and when I came here as a young person,
Speaker 2 I believed in the value as an American not to be afraid of my government. But I wanted to tell you and I want to share with you and get your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 Are you aware that a lot of Americans are now afraid of being prosecuted by your department? Are you aware about that?
Speaker 7 I think that constant attacks on the department and saying it's not a tax.
Speaker 2
Well, let me give you an example. We talk about January 6th, people.
Sorry.
Speaker 2 There are some people came on January 6th. There were probably some people that came on January 6th here, you know, that had bad intent.
Speaker 2 But a lot of good Americans from my district came here because they are sick and tired of this government not serving them.
Speaker 2
They came with strollers and the kids, and there was a chaotic situation because the proper security wasn't provided. That's a question that was answered really.
Why?
Speaker 2 Why we debated for 45 minutes on the floor and didn't stop the debate after the people broke in into the Capitol.
Speaker 2 But these people came, they were throwing the smoke bombs into the crowd with strollers, with kids. People showed up, you know, FBI agent to people's houses.
Speaker 2
You had in my district, in my town, FBI phone numbers all over the district. Please call, call that.
People are truly afraid. I just want to make sure if you're not aware that you are.
Speaker 2 And this is a big problem when people are afraid of their own government.
Speaker 3
He went on to give a non-answer answer, and I don't think it moved him very much, but it certainly moved me. And Congresswoman Sparts is with us now.
Hi, Victoria.
Speaker 6 Hi, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 I have to tell you,
Speaker 3 thank you.
Speaker 3 There are Americans, and then there are the Americans that really understand what we're up against.
Speaker 3
And they're usually the ones that have come from a communist country, a communist China, Vietnam, or anywhere in the former Soviet Union. You know what's happening.
And
Speaker 3 for him not to respond to you,
Speaker 3 George Washington said,
Speaker 3 you know,
Speaker 3
when the government fears the people, there's liberty. When the people fear the government, there's tyranny.
And we're there.
Speaker 6 Well, I'll be honest with you, Glenn. You know, maybe I came with idealistic ideas because I read about the America from Alexis de Tocqueville and Friedman and Hayek and grown up
Speaker 6 in a failed system and known what at stake. I probably was a little bit young and naive, but I'm not going to accept one thing.
Speaker 6 I'm not going to accept for this republic to fail because if we become a dictatorship and we are moving in that direction, there is no hope for anyone else in the world. And I will tell you something.
Speaker 6
It is very dangerous. We can have a difference in opinion and it's okay.
It's healthy to have a difference in opinion. But when people are afraid to express their opinion, that is called dictatorship.
Speaker 6 This was exactly under totalitarian dictatorship of communists and Soviet Union where people were afraid to express an opinion. No, we don't have a right
Speaker 6 to hurt each other, but we have a right to stand on opinion. We don't have a right to harm each other.
Speaker 6 But we do have a right to disagree with the government. That is the core fundamentals of this republic.
Speaker 6 If people are not willing to come listen, I don't like that people come and scream me in town halls. I don't like that people disagree with me.
Speaker 6 But if I'm going to go to this office, I have to hear the people. And where we are right now as a country, the frustrations of the people are real.
Speaker 6 This government is not serving the people.
Speaker 6 We have a big machine that's serving big money and people are sick and tired and we are bankrupting our future generation and a lot of people died for our freedoms. I am not willing to accept it.
Speaker 6
I know it's hard. I know these battles, you know, not easy, but we have to win them.
We'll lose this war.
Speaker 6 And, you know, I'm telling you, sometimes maybe, you know, being young and idealistic, you know, it's bad, but sometimes, you you know, coming here is like you put a frog in the hot water.
Speaker 6 I came here and I believed in all of the value of Americans, and I truly believe we are not going to destroy our republic.
Speaker 6 This is the greatest country ever existed in the history of the world, and we as Americans are going to get together to save it.
Speaker 6 But what the Department of Justice is doing is disgrace.
Speaker 3 We need more people like you in the House and the Senate.
Speaker 3 And you're not going to run for re-election to the House, and there were hopes that you would run in Indiana for Senate, but you're not going to do either of those things.
Speaker 3 You're just getting out of politics.
Speaker 6 Well, I need to regroup, reinvigorate, and really spend more time to get more Americans because this government don't underestimate still the power of Americans.
Speaker 6 Listen, with all of the bad things, I probably wouldn't be where I am.
Speaker 6
you know, if it wouldn't be for the American people. I fought my own party more than other party.
I didn't even have time for them.
Speaker 6 So I was here only because good, hard-working Americans stood with me and fought against my own party with me, Americans that care about that.
Speaker 6
And we need to get more Americans to understand what is at stake and talk to them. So we have to have more lies.
I need to regroup to figure out.
Speaker 6 You know, I honestly disappointed where my party is and with lack of leadership because unfortunately the other side is so far gone.
Speaker 6 If we don't fight and win, not just be talking head on TV or writing books and go do grandiose statements, but actually deliver. And this is a real war and we need to come after the other side.
Speaker 6 But it takes leadership and I'm responsible for my party, my leadership.
Speaker 6 So I need to figure out how I can regroup and get
Speaker 6 some energy back because I've been for decades fought my own party and another one too.
Speaker 6 I had some very tough battles, so I'm battle-tested, but I think this battle needs to be won with American people and don't underestimate the power.
Speaker 6
I truly believe these people are afraid of American people. They are afraid of American people.
And right now they're trying to oppress it.
Speaker 6 But I think American people are very strong and they're not going to allow Washington DC corruption to take over and destroy the country.
Speaker 6 So I appreciate that people like you are, you know, listen, I listened for you for a long time. You've been in the trenches.
Speaker 6
And I don't accept what they do. And they try to really demonize every American.
So people are afraid now to come and say to DC, oh my gosh, we'll have to have a peaceful demonstration.
Speaker 6
Oh, no, they'll say we are insurrectionists. We are awful people.
Well, this is terrible. This is like dictatorship.
I cannot believe it happened in the United States of America.
Speaker 3 Well, I just wanted to encourage you, because I read in, I think this was not a politico, this was from the Hill, I think, and it said
Speaker 3 that you never planned on having a long career in politics. I have a lot of my own things I wanted to do in my life, and I'm going to get some stuff done and get the hell out of politics for sure.
Speaker 3
I appreciate that, but that's something I say to myself almost every day. There's so many things I want to do.
I mean,
Speaker 3 how much longer? And we just have to continue to do it if you feel that is the best way to help.
Speaker 3 So, I would like you just to consider a plea from me that if there's any way to run for Senate, if you think you could win, we need the, I mean, you're right, the party is completely off track.
Speaker 3 Let me switch gears with you on
Speaker 3 Zelinsky.
Speaker 3 What is happening in the House? Is this real that we're not going to give the aid
Speaker 3 any more aid until we start getting some answers? Are we going to hold the line on the budget? Do you have any idea?
Speaker 6 Well, let me tell you something. It's so unfortunate, you know, that
Speaker 6 when I last year, I was a stand-alone. And, you know, listen, I sometimes feel like, you know, like, we know one woman standing, okay, but it's okay.
Speaker 6
Even if I have to be one woman standing, I will stand there. I'm okay with that.
If I'm going to be attacked, I was attacked last summer by Republicans and Democrats.
Speaker 6
I was dragged through mud on all media when I said, we must demand accountability. You understand what country we're dealing with.
We need to make sure this hard-earned money.
Speaker 6
Americans are generous people. Americans won a lot of wars and freed a lot of people around the world.
But Americans are not stupid. And Americans are not going to be betrayed.
Speaker 6 And we need to know, we need to make sure where this aid goes. We're dealing with very complicated, corrupt countries.
Speaker 6 And we need to make sure that we have accountability or it actually might get in the people that you're trying to fight because this is a challenge when you have.
Speaker 6
We saw what's happened in Afghanistan. We saw what's happened with a lot of countries.
We failed because
Speaker 6 we did not have proper accountability and Congress didn't hold executive branch of crime until I cannot believe Congresswoman asking accountability for taxpayers' money, this is being pro-putting.
Speaker 6 I think not asking is pro-putting. You know, and I was very disappointed how I was attacked, but it's okay.
Speaker 6
Listen, I, you know, if I would have been offended really easily, I wouldn't survive this war. I don't get offended that easily.
And I held the ground on that.
Speaker 6 We did a little bit better, but we didn't do as a good job. And now, a lot of Americans are asking questions.
Speaker 6 And I said, if President Biden needs to make the case why it is in the national interest of Americans, you know, to help Ukraine to win that war and show what is happening.
Speaker 6
He has not communicated for country. There is frustration from both sides forever.
He doesn't even come to Congress. You are not going to go to all of this international, they talk about country.
Speaker 6
I'll tell you one thing. If Americans don't lead, everything is gone.
We're the only country, I hate to say the only country who can lead around the world.
Speaker 6 If we're not doing something, everyone is gone. You can do grandiose statements, but if we don't do any actions, nothing is going to happen.
Speaker 6 Unfortunately, we don't have strong leadership, you know, and that's why we have all this war. Strong America is actually peace for everyone.
Speaker 6 That's why we have to keep our country strong and get our act together. You know, otherwise, our adversaries, included, like China, will be destabilizing destabilizing the country.
Speaker 6 And that is our responsibility of Republicans. So I think he put himself now in a very tough situation where a lot of Americans are asking right questions.
Speaker 6 And he needs to figure out now with the Senate how he's going to answer them.
Speaker 3 Victoria Sparks from Indiana,
Speaker 3 Congresswoman,
Speaker 3 we need more people like you.
Speaker 3 Thank you so much for everything. Hope to talk to you again.
Speaker 6
Thank you. I appreciate having me.
You bet.
Speaker 3 I have have a friend who sounds exactly like that.
Speaker 3 The husband is a little softer spoken, and she'll just go. I want
Speaker 3 Ukrainian women and Eastern Bloc women to get to Washington because nothing stops them. Nothing stops them.
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