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How was your weekend?

Great, Glenn.

How about you?

Fantastic.

Fantastic.

Of course,

I found out this weekend that the Constitution is a little outdated and is actually putting our democracy at risk.

And I didn't know that.

I didn't know that.

It's a strange

thing to say.

Because to me, the Constitution protects all aspects of democracy that exist in our republic.

Well, it has

a democracy.

It has until we had Facebook.

Oh.

You know, now we have social media.

Now it puts it at risk.

So how does that work exactly?

Well, they didn't see it.

They didn't see that.

They didn't see social media coming.

So that's true.

You know, and I'm guessing that's one of the many things that makes it outdated.

Here, let's listen to the Harvard government professor.

discussing his new book, Tyranny of the Minority.

Listen to this.

Well, we are the only presidential democracy in the world where the president can lose the election, lose the popular vote and become president.

We are one of the few democracies in the world where the major legislative body, the Senate, the party that loses the popular vote can control and routinely does control.

the Senate.

We are the only established democracy in the world where justices have lifetime tenure.

There's There's no term limits.

There's no retirement age.

So this set of institutions and others allows political minorities to systematically thwart and sometimes even govern over majorities.

Since its founding,

we've improved the Constitution.

We've done the hard work of making our constitution more democratic.

You know, women got the right to vote at the beginning of the 20th century by amending the Constitution.

We began to elect senators rather than appoint senators at the beginning of the 20th century.

And And our democracy has strengthened itself over time through amendments, through improving it.

What's tragic in our view is that in the last 50 years, we've sort of stopped doing that work.

Whereas other democracies have continued to make their constitutions more democratic, since around 1970, we've abandoned that project.

Hmm.

Hmm.

Tyranny of the minority.

Wow.

It's a good thing we have these Harvard professors that know everything and can teach the new government students, the new law students, how to view this outdated constitution.

Tyranny of the minority.

So tyranny of the majority is easy.

That happens all the time.

Where a majority, we just get 51% to go, yeah,

let's get them.

And you get them.

And it's wonderful.

Then you have situation.

Oh, sure.

Is wonderful the right word you're looking for there?

Yeah, well, of course it is because it's the majority.

It's the majority.

When is the majority ever wrong?

They get what they want and they just implement whatever that is on the minority.

And that's better now on the left's eyes.

That's interesting.

Because

they were complaining about the opposite for a very long time.

Well, maybe,

but now it's different.

You know, we have, I guess, social media, you know, and

we have fake meat now.

So the founders couldn't have seen the fake meat thing going on.

Maybe not, but still, I don't know why that would have anything to do with it.

So that's the tyranny of the majority when you get 51% that tells everyone else exactly how to live.

Now, tyranny of the minority would be things like:

I have to change

my whole life.

I have to change all my values.

I have to change,

you know, maybe worried about my daughter going into sports or going into a locker room or going into a bathroom.

I have to worry about my wife going into a bathroom because a very, very, very, very, very small minority

says that they are something they are scientifically not.

And so I have to worry about the minority because the minority, a very small minority,

is now subjecting the majority to their beliefs.

And you must

comply.

Just like when you have 51%, and you must comply.

That's what makes our,

if I may use the words of the Harvard doctor, I'm a doctor too.

It makes his

point,

his claim about the republic

invalid because, yes, that is exactly what a democracy gives you.

We are a representative republic.

So it's a balance to slow government down from doing anything.

It's to Slow it down.

Why?

Why is a slow government good?

A slow government is good because it can't react quickly to anything so in other words you have to stop and think should we do the patriot act

and hopefully there's enough chuck checks and balances that the answer comes back no

it's a violation of everyone's rights in our constitutional republic we have something called the bill of rights that is supposed to stop

the bullying of the majority and the minority.

Now they'll say, oh no, the left has all of the power, so

you better be nice.

You better shut up or they'll come and get you.

The reason why Americans have never been afraid of bullies is because we have rights.

And those rights cannot be changed or taken away by anybody in government, minority or majority.

We have rights, those rights are supposed to chain the government.

Think of the government as a rabid dog

because that's what it is right now: a rabid dog at the end of its chain,

and it will

eat anyone that gets in its way.

Why?

Not because of democracy.

Not even because of the Constitution.

It is the amendments to the Constitution

that

state clearly they were written a year after the Constitution because our oh-so-dusty out-of-touch founders knew that over time people in politics and people who wanted power would violate people's rights and so they wanted to make sure that the most important rights five of the most important rights are in the First Amendment

government cannot violate these rights.

Let's spell it out as clearly as possible possible for those who wish to confuse, delude, or out and out lie to the American people.

Let's write it out clearly.

Government in this country, unlike every other country, cannot do these things.

So no, Mr.

Harvard Professor.

I tend to disagree with you with every fiber of my being.

It's not outdated.

We haven't used it since your heroes of Woodrow Wilson and House and FDR took and peed all over that.

The discrediting of this constitution began with the progressives who, by the way, were communists who just didn't believe in a bloody revolution.

They wanted the same thing,

just no bloody revolution.

That's what progressivism actually is.

And for anybody who's like, that's not true.

Well, then tell me what we're going toward.

Because I don't think we're going towards a freer world.

I don't think we're headed towards a better world.

It seems to me if you stand in the way, the minority or the majority will cut you down.

Let us raise a standard that the wise and the honest can repair.

George Washington, End of the Constitutional Convention.

Let us rise a standard

where people can come and find shelter under.

And they did.

And currently your government is not abiding by that constitution.

And your

professors that all of us,

not me, thank God I learned my lesson, all of us are paying for our children to go into these indoctrination camps.

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Glenn, a quick, another way I think about this, the difference between a constitutional republic that we have and a democracy and why that difference is important.

I think of democracy as a visit to the grocery store on an empty stomach,

right?

You're starving, you're going through the chip aisle, you're putting everything in your basket, and the Constitution serves as the beforehand, right?

If you eat that meal beforehand, you're going to go to the grocery store and get the things you need.

Not every little shiny package is going to go into your cart.

And you, and honestly, when done properly, it's the meal beforehand, plus a little Ozempic, right?

Like you're supposed to be really restrained when you're in that grocery store.

You're not supposed to change the rules all the time so that people can understand what they are and plan long term, right?

Just that very basic thought is so central to to why this country has been so successful for such a long time and people look at it as like well why can't we react to these things immediately because we're not supposed to you don't make rational decisions in a moment of stress you want to make them in a moment of sobriety why do you think they're not talking why do you think they are denying denying the fact

fact

that they are working on a digital currency.

Why do you think the Fed and the government are denying the things that they're doing?

Because they know right now you're not in a panic.

You're not in a panic about your dollar.

And so don't think about it.

Because right now if you thought about it,

you would do something about it.

But we don't in America for some reason like to think things through in advance.

We like to wait until the very last minute.

Well, at the very last minute, and I'm telling you, it's coming.

The very last minute, what happens?

All of a sudden, there's a crisis of your dollar, and you're like, well, I don't know.

I mean, I didn't, I guess.

I mean, I'll take that.

Yes.

That's why everything is a crisis right now.

That's why they are pushing global warming the way they are.

They need you to freak out because it shuts your frontal cortex down.

You're no longer thinking.

That's very true.

I mean, and

they will rarely admit this, but the one time they will admit it is when they try it and it doesn't work.

See after every terrible incident of a mass shooting, for example.

They will tell you, well, wait a minute, we just had this incident.

Why can't we get this done?

Why can't we react?

We have to do something.

Why aren't, why, this is a broken system if we can't get this done.

And then you get the situation where they've now decided to just start doing it outside of the system.

We'll just start passing things in our brain like

student loan reform, like the eviction moratorium, like the gun ban in New Mexico.

These are just like, well, we want you to do the thing.

that we keep thinking you're going to do.

And since you're not going along with it, we're just going to do it anyway.

And we'll just push it through.

And eventually the courts might shut it it down.

Then we'll just try it another way.

That's what they're doing with the student loan stuff right now.

That's why these people have got to, they absolutely have to pay for these kinds of things.

There has to be

a court of law has got to punish the people who overstepped the boundaries.

At least make sure that we don't do it again.

If you don't hurt the people that have done it by

giving them a five-yard penalty, they'll keep doing it.

Good sports reference there.

That was incredible.

He just did that like it was natural.

No wonder your kid is a football coach, isn't he?

But honestly, it's true.

It's with Kansas City yesterday.

I don't remember who it was.

Kept going offsides.

Offsides, offsides, offsides, offsides.

You know, false start.

What are you doing, man?

What are you doing?

You're costing the team yesterday 100 yards.

Well, who's calling penalties on on our politician?

They are costing your bank account more than 100 yards.

They are causing

the entire country to fall back.

We'll never make it.

We'll never make it if we keep going backwards.

And that's what they're doing.

They're doing it and they're getting away with it.

And so more people do it.

And starting point here, look, Luhan Grisham should be impeached for what she did.

That is,

that's more than a five-yard penalty, I know, but that is what should happen for what she's done.

Don't, you can't, if you're in New Mexico, you're probably thinking, well, she kind of got her hands slapped and thank God for that.

And true, I'm glad that they've shut this down.

Slap means nothing.

But she should be impeached.

This is the literal definition of what James Madison said was tyranny.

This is it.

Taking all of the power in the government into her own hands and just doing stuff.

This is exactly the type of person that needs to be shut down immediately because they will go much, much farther than this if we do not do so.

How about the Speaker of the House in Texas?

I mean,

this was an impeachment that got nowhere because they had no facts.

You're talking of Ken Paxton.

Yes, of Ken Paxon.

No facts.

None.

Zero.

And they did lose, by the way, this weekend.

We haven't talked about that yet.

Yeah.

He was exonerated.

Now, what are you going to to do about it?

You had a speaker of the house who brought this up two days, two days after Paxton said, it looks like he was drunk on the floor of the house.

And I've seen the video.

It sure does look like he was drunk.

But what experience do you have with such things?

Yeah, I mean, you're an expert.

I'm an expert on that.

It sure looked like he was drunk.

It did look that way.

Yeah.

Two days later, all of a sudden, Ken Paxton finds himself with

an impeachment headed his way

with no

evidence.

And that's what the Senate found.

And the Senate is pissed for the House.

Well, what are you going to do about it?

You're going to talk about it?

Or is anybody in the Republican Party going to force this guy to step down?

You should not lead.

You should not lead the House.

Does anybody really have the balls to say, i suggest impeachment proceedings of course not

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A lot of talk about Donald Trump appearing on MSNBC

over the weekend.

Why he would go to MSNBC is beyond me, other than

perhaps his people think that he has already sewed up the nomination for the Republican candidate, and so now he is trying to reach out and be more

broad and appealing to

swinging it switching into general election mode essentially correct correct so let's just go through some of the things that were said on MSNBC

if a federal ban landed on your desk if you were re-elected would you sign it at 15 are you talking about a complete ban a ban at 15 weeks well people people are starting to think of 15 weeks that seems to be a number number that people are talking about right now.

Would you sign that?

I would sit down with both sides and I'd negotiate something, and we'll end up with peace on that issue for the first time in 52 years.

I'm not going to say I would or I wouldn't.

I mean, DeSanctus is willing to sign a five-week and six-week ban.

Do you support that?

I think what he did is a terrible thing and a terrible mistake.

That's interesting.

Okay, first of all, he can't do that because that's not what the Supreme Court said.

The Supreme Court said that this is not a federal issue.

This has to go back to the states.

It's not a federal issue.

Now, if they want to make it a federal issue, I would imagine at least this court would come back and say, no, it's not a federal issue.

Right.

The way you would handle this federally would be with a constitutional amendment.

Correct.

That is how you could handle it federally.

I don't think you could handle it federally with a passing a law of a 15-week ban.

Now, a lot of people on the pro-life side want to try something like that to test the court, but I don't think it would work.

I don't think it would go through.

And also, I mean, a 15-week ban, while

you would eliminate 6% of abortions, I believe is the number.

So, I mean, again,

shooting for the sky, as usual, Republicans.

6%,

94% of abortions abortions remain, let's act like that's the pro-life position.

But yeah, I mean, look, would it eliminate 6% of the worst, most egregious abortions?

I mean, probably not, because some people who were close to the line would move them up, but still, it would be something.

I can understand why some people would find it to be an attractive option.

But

I don't think it would

hold constitutional muster.

Certainly by looking at the Dobbs decision, I don't think it fits with that.

Again, that's that's not supposed to be what we do with these things.

These go to the states, and they're supposed to be decided by the states.

We have a federalist system here, or at least we act like we did at one point.

And this is what we've seen now is kind of the state of play.

Of course, the more important long-term way to get rid of this is to make it so that people, you know, to convince people and change hearts and minds so that people don't want it anymore, right?

You're not, we are in a tough spot here.

You can, if you,

you know, passed a nationwide abortion ban right now, complete abortion ban, it would still be very difficult to stop, right?

People are taking pills from India, being shipped in the mail.

How are you going to stop this?

It's going to be very difficult.

We're able to stop slavery,

not because of having certainly a very legal, strong legal protection against it, but also because no one wants to do it.

Everyone agrees it's a horrible, horrible part of our history.

That's what abortion needs to become.

So you got that super, super classic

happening

where he's talking about being more moderate.

By the way, Megan Kelly joins me in about 22 minutes.

Just talked to President Trump for an hour.

Yes.

And he said some other things.

We'll get to that in just a second.

First,

you have DeSantis coming out.

and taking the pro-life view and standing strong and saying, that's nonsense.

It's nonsense.

And he also took umbrage to what happened with Megan Kelly.

Listen to this.

Do we have it?

Maybe having some technical.

I knew Caitlin is Bruce.

I knew Bruce.

And, you know, Bruce was a great athlete and a very handsome person, very handsome.

Very handsome.

Guy.

Very handsome.

And all of a sudden, Bruce is Caitlin.

I said, what's this all about?

This was a brand new subject, too, just like

we talk about, you know the pandemic was a subject that nobody knew anything about what they

talk about transgenderism since the weimar republic

uh it's been around for a while it's been around

although it has grown in prominence if if you know if you want to take him uh seriously but not literally on that statement right it was a it is something that has

come about a bigger part of the conversation

bothered by the equivocation of both abortion and transgenderism yes

by our friend Donald Trump I'm bothered by that.

I'm bothered.

Trump's history on abortion in particular is

particularly complicated.

It's back and forth, but also a complicated one, right?

Like

he has never been a guy who held a strong ideological opinion on abortion.

However, he is also largely responsible for the biggest win in the pro-level over the last 50 years.

There's no doubt about it.

No doubt.

That's a huge, huge, huge accomplishment.

In fact, I will tell you right now with complete and utter certainty, it's the most important thing he will ever do in his entire life.

Nothing else he will ever do in the future or has done in the past will compare with what happened with Crowe versus Wade being.

I'm

really grateful for that.

Really grateful.

I mean, look, I think one thing that's really important when you consider how we approach the abortion issue right now is to understand that there may be some short-term political risk to taking a hardcore stance on abortion.

And if what your consideration is, is a short-term political future, what's going to happen in this next election, then you may want to be a little wishy-washy on this, right?

I think Nikki Haley's doing the same thing.

Do I think Nikki, I think Nikki Haley does have a strong ideological position on abortion, but she's not exactly showing that right now.

And I think, you know, Trump, who I think can go honestly either way on it, he, you know, I don't think he has a huge strong feeling.

He's showing that as well.

I think short-term political prospects, when you've got one election in front of you and that's what you're thinking about, may very well be the right way to go.

However, long-term wins on this topic are won by people who hold a strong principle.

You know, the left didn't come into 1985 and say, well, gay marriage is polling at 9%.

Let's never mention it.

Right.

They had to have people.

who believed in it and held that line for a very, very long time to win that battle.

And eventually, people came to their side of the argument, whether you agree with it or not.

Well, yes and no.

They came to it because,

you know, it was in television everywhere.

So

you don't have the right at this point creating all of the propaganda to sway people one way or another.

True.

And even when that had been done

and

President Obama was elected, he's like, I'm against gay marriage.

Hillary Clinton, I'm against gay marriage.

Joe Biden, I'm against gay marriage.

And when your concern is a short-term political win, that is where you will stand.

Right.

And that's what Barack Obama did.

And he won an election over it.

Right.

I mean, so maybe that's the way to go.

Again, it's about what you're, what do you want, right?

If what you want is a long-term win on this topic, you're going to hold the principle.

And I think, look, there's a really easy political position for candidates to take right now, which is

long-term.

Yeah, it's stay with the states.

And your principle is long term.

I want this to end because I think it's a terrible process.

I understand we're not all there yet.

What I will do is move the ball and take every win that we can get to keep as many babies alive as possible.

And I understand that I don't have the power to universally implement my wishes on this, but we'll take every step that we can get.

So now, hang on.

Trump is asked by Megan Kelly: can a man be a woman?

Listen.

Can Can a man become a woman?

It's easy.

In my opinion, you have a man, you have a woman.

I think part of it is birth.

Can the man give birth?

No, no.

Although they'll come up with some answer to that also someday.

I heard just the other day they have a way that now the man can give birth.

No, I would say

I'll continue my stance on that.

He's not being exactly clear.

No, he's not.

No, but he.

I don't know what he said.

You have a man, you have a woman.

No, but what he said, play it again, please.

I mean, I thought he was

as clear as Donald Trump

is someday.

What do you mean?

Like, Donald Trump will say anything that he believes.

Like, right.

He's the most.

The whole point of why he became president of the United States is because he's so direct and works stuff out.

This is him trying to reach out to independence.

If he doesn't get independence, if he doesn't get independence, he doesn't win.

Right.

But that is, I think, what he's doing.

The question is whether that's a good idea or not.

Go ahead, listen, whether he should be.

Can a man become a woman?

Listen.

In my opinion,

the man becomes a woman.

I think part of it is birth.

Can the man give birth?

No.

No.

Although they'll come up with some answer to that also someday.

I heard just the other day.

Conflicted a little bit.

They have a way that now the man can give birth.

No.

I don't think he's conflicted on this at all.

I'll continue my stance on that.

pandering.

Would you say it's pandering?

I mean, again,

I'm not trying to wreck the guy, but like...

Well, keep in mind.

He is pandering.

I think overwhelming, if you take the tone of his act, what he's actually saying there is he says, of course, you know.

Of course, his answer is no.

A man can't become a woman.

But he's trying to answer like if he was in the room with Caitlin Jenner.

He's negotiating.

Right.

Okay.

He's negotiating.

Well, that's the good way of looking at it.

And when he owned the Miss Universe pageant, yes.

He allowed that.

He allowed it.

He did.

He believed a man could become a woman.

One more clip.

But what about the children?

That's become an issue now.

Should children be provided with access to puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones when they're minors?

I'm so against it.

First of all,

many of them, I heard like 62%,

when they grow up, when they're older, they say, who did this to me?

Why did you do this to me?

Second of all, the parents have to make the decision.

You know, they're trying to give it to school boards and schools and things to make a decision.

It's unbelievable to think.

You know, I talk about mutilation sometimes in my speeches.

We will stop the mutilation of children.

And then I'll stop and I'll say to the people in the audience, I'll say, can you imagine that I'm talking about we're going to stop mutilation of children?

But that's what it is.

It's the mutilation of children.

And we will stop the mutilation of children.

Ten years ago, you wouldn't even, nobody would ever to think it.

Think of it.

I am telling people, because I guess I'm a politician, whether I like it or not.

As a politician, as somebody that represents a lot of people, I'm telling telling people that we're going to stop the mutilation of children.

Who would have to say a thing like that?

You'd think it would be automatic.

So, would you be in favor of a ban then on puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones for minors?

I think, yes, yes, yes.

I would.

It's pretty clear.

That's very clear.

I think he's pretty clear.

It's very clear.

And there's a much different tone there than there was in his first answer.

He's not equivocating that.

And I don't know who does.

I mean,

I don't know the people who are like, yeah, you know, you're eight.

You're 12.

Yeah, you're 15.

Let's cut our breasts off.

That, no, that's insane, but

there are those out there.

You notice, though, the side-by-side between that answer and the abortion answer.

Like, to me,

the transgender answer is he's trying to be careful and not offend people, but he has a real opinion on it, right?

He really feels strong that a man can't become a woman.

He's hiding it a little bit behind political language, but you can tell how he feels.

The abortion one is, I mean, he's literally criticizing a six-week ban as horrible, right?

Like, that is like, if anything, it seems he seems to have a pretty strong position the opposite way at some number, right?

Like, he doesn't seem to have the exact number where he feels like he's like, 15 weeks is something that people are talking about, was his line.

And then six weeks is abhorrent or horrible or whatever his word was for that.

So, somewhere in between those two things seems to be where his line is.

I mean, obviously, it is a more politically feasible

position than what mine is, which is

look, basically extreme.

And I'm a welcome pro-life extremist.

I don't even mind the title because I know I'm out of step with everybody else.

I'm not going to go bomb a clinic.

You heard it there.

I will dare, Your Honor.

You heard it there.

I will tell you.

He's been writing words for Pat and I for

how many years, Pat?

So many.

We didn't believe any of this stuff, Your Honor.

No, I mean, like, look, when you take a position that, you know, I don't know, 20 or 15 or 10% of people believe in, maybe that does make you extreme.

But you know what?

When it comes to keeping babies alive, maybe that's the right way to be.

I think we're all there.

Thank you very much.

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88727BECK, I am not for limitation at all on abortion procedures.

I want them all limited.

I don't think there should be abortion.

I think it is killing a baby.

Now, 15 weeks weeks is an interesting number because what is that based on?

Like 12 weeks is the heartbeat.

I thought it was six weeks is the heartbeat.

Is it six weeks?

Yeah.

And some people say even earlier, but six weeks, the heartbeat bills have generally been six weeks.

So is there a milestone at 12?

12, you know, first trimester.

So, man, that's not it.

So, I mean, then six weeks, I understand.

Six weeks.

Yeah, I understand it as a legal line.

Like, if you were to say, well, the end of life is typically declared when there is no heartbeat.

You could legally say maybe the heartbeat begins life, which is, again, not my moral line, but I do feel like is a somewhat legally defensible line.

The one where we just like kill them all whenever we want, not really legally defensible.

I don't understand the 15-week line other than I feel good, but as technology improves.

You know what it is?

Polling.

If you look at the first trimester, second trimester, and third trimester, by the second trimester, the the overwhelming majority are against abortion.

So the first one, you're saying, well, we'll let you have the popular abortions.

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Hello, Megan.

How are you?

Hi, I'm well.

How are you doing?

Very good.

So

your interview and the interview that the president did on MSNBC are getting a lot of play over the weekend

because

in some places he seemed to be hedging his bet.

And on MSNBC,

he talked about a 15-week limit on abortions.

Yeah, well,

this is one of the reasons why President Trump needs to put himself out there more, because just like President Basement, it's not okay for either one of these leading candidates on the Dem or the GOP side to stay underground.

So to his credit, Trump is putting himself out there much, much more than Joe Biden.

But we absolutely need to be probing their positions as the American public tries to make a decision.

And Trump on the social issues, with all due credit for the Supreme Court justices we got, has always been a little wishy-washy.

He's lived pretty much 75 years.

He's 77 now, I guess 73, whatever it is, before he became president, as a Democrat.

You know,

one of my debate questions for him back in 2016 was, when did he become a Republican?

Because if you look back at his life, he's been much, much more of a Democrat and more liberal on social issues, like virtually everyone in New York City is.

And I think there's still a fair amount of that in him.

So, is this

for instance?

Let me play a clip

with you where he was talking about, can a man become pregnant?

Play it.

Can a man become a woman?

In my opinion, you have a man, you have a woman.

I think part of it is birth.

Can the man give birth?

No, no.

Although they'll come up with some answer to that also someday.

I heard just the other day they have a way that now the man can give birth.

No, I would say

I'll continue my stance on that.

So

what was your takeaway?

Because he never really answered it, but he did shake his head no towards the beginning.

What's your takeaway from that?

Well, I thought it was weak sauce.

I really wish he did better on that.

I like Ron DeSantis' answer, I'm going to be honest, which is no.

No.

Right.

No.

Right.

No.

Obviously, no.

And it's not determined based on who can give birth.

It's determined by God.

And it's pretty obvious just as soon as you come out of the womb.

That's the way it's always been.

That's the way it continues to be, notwithstanding this weird agenda by some activists in this crazy trans-agenda-pushing pushing cult.

So Trump clearly knows that.

I don't know if he's got, if he's trying to like appease some group of trans voters that he thinks is going to make the difference with him.

Even when I had Don Jr.

on my show, he was kind of dancing around this issue.

I think that they think they're somehow going to do better with Democrats if they don't hit this straight on, even though, I mean, 98% of the Republican Party is united on this issue.

This is not, it is not a winner for any Republican to hedge on this.

Just ask Asa Hutchinson.

So, I'm not sure what he's thinking.

I feel like this and the abortion thing, he must be thinking more general election, where there are Democrats who don't feel as Republicans do.

But I really think there's such a small voting group on this particular issue.

He needs a better answer, and I hope he gets it soon.

So, do you think this will shake the tree at all?

I mean, I think he looks at the poll numbers and thinks, there's, I mean, I'm going to win.

So why not start a moderate campaign now because I'm going to win the primary.

So let's just get past that and just start being more moderate to appeal to a wider audience than just the Republicans.

Do you think that's going to work?

I don't.

I mean, I'm much more in the Ann Coulter field of thinking when it comes to who the party should nominate.

I think they should nominate somebody who's going to drive turnout.

And generally with Republicans, that means someone who is conservative, who is genuinely conservative.

Look at what happened with John McCain.

Okay?

Like they've tried to go more moderate.

It doesn't work.

Now, Trump does drive turnout because he's Trump and there's something about him that his core constituency finds very appealing.

And that 30% isn't going to abandon him, even if he comes out and says he wants abortions in the ninth month.

I mean,

that's really the question, not whether he can shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue.

But could Trump say that he's pro-abortion ninth month and still hold on to that core 30%?

Glenn, I think the answer is yes.

And he's almost toying with that experiment right now.

He's not pro-abortion ninth month.

He's really more banking on the fact that he appointed the three justices who made the difference on Roe v.

Wade.

And he's not going to lose any Republican voters to Joe Biden on the issue of abortion, right?

He's playing the long game.

But he does need to generate enthusiasm.

And it's already tamped down, not in that 30% of Republicans, but the other half who are tepid on Trump.

So let me ask you about Joe Biden here for a second.

Because

I started to see, for instance, there was an article in the Washington Post from

a big player on the left.

And in the editorial, he said, you know, I love Joe Biden and he's done great things and nothing against anything he's ever done.

But I think it's time for him to go.

And I think that you see the supporters and the

key members possibly starting to move in and saying, you know, Joe, I think maybe you should go.

Do you think he is the

candidate by the time we get to the

election?

I don't know, Glenn.

I'm seeing what you're seeing.

It seems like there's a movement underfoot to gently oust him and her.

That was what was interesting

in WAPO, which was they both need to go.

We don't want to be stuck with her.

But, you know, live by the sword, die by the sword.

They selected her for identity politics reasons, and good luck subbing her out and subbing in some other damn like Gavin Newsome, you know, who doesn't check the right boxes.

And even who does check the right boxes.

Sonny Hostin, woke identity politics warrior over on The View, was saying, if he subs out Kamala Harris, he's going to lose the black vote.

We're not interchangeable, even if he puts back in a black woman.

But in any event, you can feel the ground shifting.

CNN doing a long fact check on Biden's lives last Thursday.

I've never seen them unleash their Daniel Dale guy on Biden.

That was always a Trump thing.

Now more and more sort of getting interested in just how old President Biden is and polling heavily on it, and the results are disastrous.

The Ignatius piece, there's been just example after example of how they seem to be realizing, you know what?

He can't do it.

We're going to lose if we stick with him.

But I also think you have to ask yourself realistically: how do you get rid of him?

You know, I think there's some fantasy that Barack Obama could do it.

He could come get, you know, like give him the tap on the shoulder like you'd get at

the dance.

Time to sit down, your dancing's over.

I'm not sure.

Well, it's exactly.

Voluntarily walks away from power like that.

Well, voluntarily,

George Washington.

But remember that Nixon did that.

And Nixon only did it when he realized the party was no longer with him.

When all of the people he counted on

to help support him were turning on him.

And that's when he decided to resign.

There's a good way to do this and there is the tough way.

And we're offering you the chance to make this your idea.

And

I think part of the pressure might be the Hunter Biden scandal.

When you saw the

charges last week, are these real or are these bogus too?

The gun charges?

Yes.

I mean, look, they're real in that he did it, and any one of us would have been charged for it, so okay.

But of course, they were brought very reluctantly by a guy who's on his side.

David Weiss, the U.S.

Attorney for Delaware, is on Hunter Biden's side.

He's the man who's been investigating him for six years, who let the most damning charges expire under the statute of limitations, even though Hunter's lawyers offered what's called a tolling agreement.

They offered to extend the statute of limitations, and David Weiss said, nah, that's okay.

This is his prosecutor, so we're supposed to believe now he's going to be tough on Hunter.

But yes, it was a fig leaf charge on only the gun statute, which, by the way, a lot of people think won't even hold up.

This gun statute's been deemed unconstitutional under the Second Amendment.

And so it's possible they could go away on constitutional grounds that would probably be acceptable to most Republicans.

So it's kind of a low stakes matter.

But

let's say he gets convicted, which he probably will.

Some are saying saying this is a smart move by the Republicans because at least now Hunter and Joe have real skin in the game.

He could potentially face jail time.

And maybe it gives Dems like Obama and the party leaders on the Dem side the power to go to Joe and say, do it for Hunter.

You'll pardon him while announcing you're just a one-termer.

You can give your son the pardon, keep him out of jail, save the Democrat Party.

You'll be on Mount Rushmore, and you can save the whole family.

You know what?

If that's the price it takes to get them out of there, do it.

So

be as tough on this as you can be.

When you see the

left saying there's no evidence, there's no evidence.

They've got no evidence.

There's plenty of evidence.

I don't know if that all adds up to

proof, but there's tons of evidence.

If you were standing in a court of law, because this is what you used to do, and your client was Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, and you saw the evidence that the prosecution has shown already, and they say there's more, how would you assess your chance of winning?

It would depend on the evidentiary standard.

If it's preponderance of the evidence where you just have to prove 51% more likely than 49% not, he's guilty.

If it's beyond a reasonable doubt, I would acquit him.

So far.

So far.

But that's only because we haven't gotten all the bank records, which they're about to get.

But

it's more than 51% likely he did this.

I mean, I would put it more up in the 60s.

But if you're talking about conviction of a crime, it's not there yet.

What do the bank records, what are you looking for in the bank records?

What do they have to show?

Well, I mean, I would want to see the actual deposits of the money, but you know,

into Joe Biden's accounts in order to, you know, actually convict of a crime.

But we had Peter Schweitzer on the show on Friday, and he's, of course, the Hunter expert.

Yeah.

He was making some very interesting points about how in order to show bribery, in order to show corruption, you really don't even need to show any deposits into Joe Biden's accounts.

Showing the deposits into Hunter Biden's accounts is enough, not to mention the other eight family members who are on the take.

Correct.

You know, I mean, the benefit to the family member is sufficient.

And this kind of brings me back to where I'm coming into this whole corruption scandal.

I almost feel like Republicans are overstating their own burden.

You know, it doesn't need, I realize why they're doing the impeachment, and I'm actually in favor of it, but it doesn't need to go that route, and they don't need to allege crimes.

The corruption is there plain as the nose on your face.

Yes.

I want

one honest journalist, just one with access to president biden to get him in an interview and say how dare you allow your son to sit on the board of barisma a ukrainian company being investigated for corruption when you were the point man on the obama administration's corruption cleanup in ukraine how dare you is that not disqualifying to your ongoing role as a public official go ahead i think it is we're not going to see that but i think it is and i would love to see that i i go a step further as a father you knew who kolomoyski was he's a brutal killer he beheads his opponents uh

and you took your son who you knew had a drug problem and drinking problem and could easily be roped into anything and you allowed him to sit on on that board with that man.

Are you out of your mind?

Right.

When he was drug drug-addled, I mean, we were just looking back at the timeline on Hunter's addiction.

I actually have this right in front of me because I was looking at it in preparation for my show today.

So he joined the board of Berez Ma in April 2014.

That same year, he was just discharged from the Navy Reserve after testing positive for cocaine.

All right, that same year.

when he joined the board, which Joe knows all of this.

This is while his father was overseeing U.S.

policy in Ukraine.

By May of 15, he had a relapse on his alcohol addiction.

By 2016, he had a relapse of his crack cocaine addiction.

And this is all while he's doing business with this, with the Chinese energy company, CEFC, while he's on the board of Burisma, which his father knows because he's regularly calling into the Hunter business meetings in order to lend the Biden name.

He knows his crack adult son is sitting on these boards cashing checks and he's facilitating it.

I mean, at a minimum, this counteracts the narrative of what a great dad he is.

What a great dad.

I agree.

I agree.

Megan, thank you very much.

We look forward to your programming.

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Thank you so much.

My pleasure, Greg.

God bless.

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Hmm.

Chicago's newly elected mayor announced a partnership with the progressive national nonprofit group, Economic Security Project, to solve the lack of food access in some neighborhoods.

So

remember, we're not talking about communism here.

We're just talking about the city.

Controlling the means of supply.

That's all in production.

That's all.

What does it have to do with anything like communism?

It's a better, stronger, safer future.

Right.

That's what they say.

And of course, some people will point out maybe the reason why there's not a lot of grocery stores is the major problems with crime and the policies that are left to address them and the fact that

illegal immigrants are overrunning the country.

But this is the same mayor who's Brandon Johnson, right?

That's what we're talking about.

He said this, and I hope everyone is hearing this.

As you may be coming across and becoming a guest in our country, I hope you hear the words of Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson, who eloquently stated, sanctuary means that everyone is welcome here.

And as a city, we commit to take care of each other and provide all of our neighbors with the resources they need to thrive.

Thrive.

If I spoke any other language than bad English,

I would say in Spanish right now and in Mexican, I would...

Both?

Both.

Wow.

Wow.

You know, if I'm going to speak one, I should speak both.

That's true.

I would say go to Chicago.

Chicago.

That's the place to go.

That's the place to go.

And you're going to get city-run grocery stores.

Because he easily could have said, we will provide the things for you to survive, but that's not what he said.

No, thrive.

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It's a little cold, they say, but I'm not sure that's all that true.

I mean, I was there last summer.

Seemed totally fine, yeah.

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I mean, you might have to dodge various projectiles here and there, but you know, as long as you're somewhat agile, you should be fine.

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We just told you that Chicago is looking into city-run and owned grocery stores

because for some reason they can't keep grocery.

I don't know what the reason is.

Probably just...

It's probably white people, but they can't keep the grocery stores.

And so

they're thinking now about having city run.

And I think this is interesting.

It reminded me of a story from the city of Highland Park in Illinois.

They're having a really a poverty

simulation event.

And it's where you can figure out what you can feel like what it's like to be poor.

They're holding it at the Highland Park Country Club.

And we'll give you more.

We'll give you more information.

I've heard this has been postponed or canceled.

Why?

Poor taste?

I've heard they have delicious food at the Highland Park Country Club.

I don't understand that.

But we'll get back into that here in just a second.

First, I want to take you out

to New Mexico.

And we have Brian Festa on with us.

We are we, the Patriots, USA co-founder and vice president.

He's also an attorney.

And he has been following this in New Mexico.

And I'd just like to know what the latest is on the governor who

now is pulling it back and say, only, no, we're saying you can't carry now on school grounds or in city parks, which I don't think you could ever carry a gun on school grounds in the first place.

Brian, welcome.

Good morning, Glenn.

Thanks for having me here.

Yeah, we, the PatriotsUSA.org, is our organization.

We We filed a

request for a temporary restraining order and a permanent injunction, actually, lawsuit within 24 hours of her issuing her original order about a week ago.

And Judge David Urias, Biden appointee, actually did rule in our favor last Wednesday and issued that temporary restraining order.

She comes out on Friday.

and issues a new order, as you just stated.

It actually applies to not just school grounds, but public parks and playgrounds.

So, in our view, she's bordering on contempt here because the original order also included public parks and playgrounds.

And the judge already issued a restraining order against her.

So, she comes out and says, well, I'll just issue a new order.

So, we're probably going back to court today.

We're going to actually file another request for a TRO, a temporary restraining order against her.

But if this is enforced in any way, this new order, in our view, that's contempt.

So what is going to happen here?

I mean, what should happen, in my view, is she should either be impeached or she should

receive some sort of punishment, more than a slap on the hands.

If our politicians don't learn that you touch the constitutional stove, which is very hot, you will get burned.

If we don't teach them that in some way, they'll just keep doing this over and over and over again.

Absolutely.

And that's the danger.

That's why we thought this case was so important and why we jumped into this, like I said, within 24 hours, because for a governor just to flagrantly ignore and defy not only the United States Constitution, which is the worst part, but also the decision and the Bruen decision

just last year by the United States Supreme Court, which clearly stated that you couldn't do what she's doing here you can't create these so-called sensitive places based on high crime rates and take away people's right to defend themselves this the justices were clear on that and it's almost like she took that decision and said I'm gonna do exactly what the Supreme Court said I can't do so this is a showdown between governors and the United States Supreme Court between governors and our constitution our second amendment rights and that's why it's so important that we all of us you know not just our organization of course, but everyone needs to stand up and fight against this to keep our right to bear arms, to protect ourselves and our families.

I hope.

When is she up for election again?

Do you know?

You know, I don't actually know.

Yeah,

it might be next year.

Yeah, well,

I hope the people of New Mexico remember this and show her the door.

This kind of stuff has got to stop.

Brian, great to talk to you again.

Thank you so much for being on the program.

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How's your weekends do?

It was good.

Filled with many little league outings.

And and uh that's my life at the moment but it was it was lots of fun i like i like watching my son play baseball so it was great so my wife said let's go to this uh let's go to this movie uh this weekend i don't even remember what it was called uh and i was like okay and she said here look at the trailer and i just kind of half-watched a little bit and i was like uh

Okay.

Didn't read anything about it, knew nothing about it.

It looked like a horror movie.

It was a trick.

It was a Kenneth Branath movie.

And,

you know, those are, I know you have a hat rule.

I don't like movies that feature actors in fancy hats.

Yeah.

And there were lots of fancy hats.

Okay.

Yeah.

I'm out.

Alts a hats fan.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Immediately out.

Yeah.

And it was an Agatha Christie.

Oh, my.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

So it

was shockingly really good,

but I felt a little duped.

I felt a little duped.

So she tried to make you believe it was a horror movie.

No, I don't think she tried to do that.

I think that's the way I read it because I wasn't really listening to my.

Yes, she was trying to do that.

Yes, you're right.

So you were the victim

of your wives' manipulation,

knowing you wouldn't pay attention to what she was saying.

Right.

She knows me better than that.

Right.

And to do that, she decided to say something that probably explained exactly what it was, but knew you would never pay attention to it.

So you're a victim.

And I see Kenneth Branoff, and I'm like, oh, no, it's no.

And what came out of my mouth was, I like him.

He's pretty good.

And then I thought, wait, isn't he the guy that makes all that Shakespeare crap?

And

yes.

Yes, it is.

Wow.

Yeah.

So that's, that's how my weekend started.

So I had a good weekend.

It sounds like it was a blast.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You want to go?

I don't.

I have no interest in that whatsoever.

It's a horror movie.

Oh, now it's starting to sound interesting.

I will say, you know, can I, on the horror movie thing, you watched, you said you watched some football this weekend.

You see, I did watch some of the Chiefs Jaguars game.

Is that what you did at some point?

Well, no, but my son talked to me about it.

Okay.

So you didn't actually watch any of it.

No, but I listened to my son.

But you listened to your son.

A lot of these, I don't know, I have kids right in that age of like,

you know, they don't watch, I don't have them watching all sorts of, you know, horror movies or, you know, like I'm keeping them pretty much away from that.

And people say, hey, you're keeping your kid in a bubble.

I'm like, have you looked at this world?

Yes.

Yeah.

I want the bubble to be thicker.

That's what I want.

It's not a bubble.

It's more of an actual wall.

Yes.

Build the wall.

I'm doing it and my life is as long as possible.

Because my belief is, and I could be wrong on this, but I remember growing up.

And as you get older, you have plenty of time to do all the really bad things that the world offers.

Oh, there's nobody there to nag you to stop you.

No.

No.

You could do whatever you want.

No.

So he's going to have plenty of time.

My daughter's going to have plenty of time to do all the terrible things this world offers.

But for right now, I'd like to keep them away from that.

And like, they're still young enough in which like they're watching a horror movie.

They could get scared at it.

Oh, yeah.

You know, like, I don't know what time that expects.

They're 24 and 21.

But like, seriously, like, I don't know.

I remember moments from my childhood seeing like moments from like a Stephen King movie.

Oh, yeah.

And being terrified for weeks.

Right.

Like, oh, I know what you're going to talk about.

You do?

Yes.

Because I watched the Cowboys game.

Yeah.

Right?

They are running an advertisement for some exorcist sequel.

Yeah.

In the middle of these games.

Scary.

That was

terrifying.

Yeah.

And, like,

as a dad,

who's going to be the guy getting up in the middle of the night if my kids are terrified by this?

Can you stop?

Can you make it, I don't know, 80% less terrifying?

There's just like a the faces like the oh my gosh.

I saw this.

I saw it.

I saw it like every commercial break.

Yeah.

And I'm watching it.

I'm like, what, what is happening?

What is happening?

I thought at first, because I was only half watching, I thought, this is a, this has got to be a parody of something.

You know, it's got to be, you know.

Because you see Exorcist, it's such a, it's been done so many times.

You feel like, you know,

like, no.

Like, oh my,

I remember the Exorcist.

I, I remember, I did, I never saw it.

Uh, I, you know, after I, you know, after I moved out of my parents' house,

I saw a little bit of it, but I could only, I've never watched the whole thing.

I watched like 15 minutes of it.

I'm like, I gotta watch this movie.

Uh, my sister went, she snuck out of the house.

She was 16, you know, she snuck out and her friends, because this is at the time when everybody was like vomiting in the theaters and everything else.

And she's like, I gotta see this.

So then she comes at night and she's too afraid to sleep in her own bed.

So she, I have bunk bed, she sleeps in the bottom bunk for like a month.

And every night she tells me about it.

And I'm like, I'm, you know,

I'm like seven.

Oh,

mom, I'm afraid.

What are you afraid of?

Demons.

Why are you afraid of demons?

Not because Clota went to the exorcist and told me all about it.

You're a good brother, I could see.

I really like.

Oh, it's terrifying.

Especially because we live in a world in which.

Basically, the only thing you can safely allow your kids to watch are sports.

Like Like, everything else is terrible.

The Disney channel has become terrible, right, for your kids.

Yeah.

So you could put them in front of sports mostly, and most of the time, it's okay.

And then, but then occasionally there'll be a commercial in which the devil's hand comes out of the screen and grasps their throat.

Like, that's all.

And it's like, can you, I don't know.

Can we have...

There used to be

an unwritten rule.

First, I think it was a written rule.

Then it was an unwritten rule.

The family hour.

When the family is watching something together, can we make it something the family can watch together?

Yeah, no, I get it.

If you're up in the fourth quarter and it's 11 o'clock at night on a Sunday night game or a Monday night game,

I understand you might have different rules there, but like the NFL,

how much money do they make?

How, I mean, billions and billions and billions of dollars.

The networks, all of the top-rated shows for the entire year are NFL games.

Do you expect us?

Do you expect us to turn down money?

Yes.

Just because it's the

not even asking you to have a standard.

I'm willing to pay what my dollars aren't good enough for you.

Just take the money from somebody else.

Take it from some other evil core.

Put cigarettes back on television.

Please.

You're so much better than I am.

Wait, you even have a Satan button over there, don't you?

No.

I don't know what you're talking about.

So that's all we're asking.

Just don't scare the crap out of the children.

Please, and me.

Quite honestly, and me.

I saw that.

I could see that face in my head right now.

I don't want to see that face.

Don't want to see that face.

Oh my gosh.

Sarah, look.

Think of that face.

Now look at Stu.

Oh, my gosh.

Very similar.

Very similar.

And may I just say,

you should brush your teeth occasionally.

Occasionally.

I think that big fluoride, it's already in the water.

All right.

Let me.

What does this?

What does Satan say when something is really, really bad?

He wouldn't say it was evil.

That's...

Teeth questions are

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You know,

I just think,

you know, if you want to stay warm in the winter, wear a sweater.

Don't turn up the heat.

You know, gas prices are a problem.

Food prices, you know, kind of a stagflation kind of thing.

And lo and behold, the Americans are just coming down the steps now after being freed from being hostages in Iran.

Well, I think the play here is complete, okay.

I think we've, oh, this is the first half.

Oh, that doesn't.

That doesn't sound good.

Well, the end of the first act, ladies and gentlemen,

end with the hostages coming down from Iran.

So I guess the rest of it is all going to be new and a shocking, shocking surprise.

But I'm glad to see that we paid $6 billion

and got five hostages.

Isn't it a little bit unfair to these countries that we don't publish a rate sheet?

Or we just say, hey, if you just kidnap this many Americans and we'll give you a business.

Well,

some would say paying for hostages, you know,

paying

terrorists is a bad thing.

Some would say that.

Negotiating with a a terrorist.

I've seen a few documentary films like that.

I don't understand what you mean.

Okay.

Why would that be bad?

I mean, it's looking.

You'd like to publish like a price list, like a menu.

Yeah, like a nice little pricing menu where like, hey, you know, kidnap three, get a deal

of some sort.

Yeah, like, yeah.

But the other thing is we have to like lower the amount they get for each terrorist so we don't incentivize it.

Sure.

For

each person they kidnap, we give a little bit less money.

Okay, but you have to keep, you know,

you kidnap 100, you have to keep the price above the price of a bullet

and just below the price of what the, you know, what they have to pay for and food to keep them all alive.

There's a sweet spot.

There is a sweet spot.

We'll work on that.

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no no no no i heard a song and i'm gonna play a little bit of it uh and shockingly it has nothing to bleep out uh and it doesn't revolve around anybody's butt which i think I think it is a prerequisite.

You have to use the B word

and also something has to be happening to somebody's butt in

all

pop music.

That does seem to be the rule.

Now, I assume that was Biden legislation.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure, but it's pretty universal.

So, I got to take you back.

It's a really old-timey song.

It doesn't have anything to do with anybody's butt.

But I heard this, and

I thought to myself, wow,

we really have no idea.

We have absolutely no idea

what suffering is.

We have no idea

what the world has gone through before.

We're all like, yeah, we should go to war with Russia or Putin.

No, we shouldn't go to war with Putin.

That'd be bad.

Nuclear bombs.

Nuclear bombs is not as bad as global warming.

And

somehow I think we're missing the the point.

Let me play something.

This is from London.

This is a woman named Vera Lynn.

Go ahead and play this.

This is, listen to the lyrics.

See if you can relate.

Because

I don't think we can.

When the life's going again

all over

the world.

Okay, all right.

Can we just stop there?

Have you ever thought to yourself,

man, when the lights go on again all over the world, it's going to be fantastic.

I've never had that thought.

You still?

No, I kind of take the lighting

for granted.

Yeah, I do.

I do.

I do.

I do.

I mean, you know, hey, when the power comes on again, I'll be pissed

and it'll be great and everything, but I'm suing somebody because my power went out.

I can relate to that one, but not when the lights come back on again all over the world.

But listen, there's more.

And the boys are home again

all over

the world.

And the boys are home again all over the world.

You know, you might think, well, it's World War II.

This is a sweetheart singing about, you know, her sweetheart going away.

No, no, she said boys.

So that would include that sweetheart, but it would also include your husband, your son,

your grandson, you know, pretty much everybody's boy.

And when

everybody's boy comes back, those who can, gee, won't it be sweet?

And rain or snow

that may fall from the skies above.

Okay, I'd just like to point out

when rain or snow

is the only thing that falls from the skies above.

Now, I don't know if I need you to draw a picture, but I don't often think

that could be a bomb.

I don't often fear the sound of airplanes.

You know, it's weird.

I've never seen an airplane fall out of the sky either because it's been shot at.

So,

huh.

I don't think we can relate to

when rain and snow are the only things that fall from the sky above.

That lyric is a little

problematic as well.

A kiss

doesn't mean goodbye, but hello, love.

When the lights go on again,

all over

the world,

and the ships will sail again.

A kiss.

Wow.

Can I just point out here when the ships sail again?

So there's no cruise lines.

Sorry, no cruise lines.

But there's not stuff going back and forth really for you at the store because

can't get them across the sea because there's bombings going on, submarines blowing up ships to make people starve.

So it's kind of like COVID,

but it goes on and on and on and on and much worse.

Okay, so you got that?

So the ships.

So the Amazon delivery boxes keep coming.

Oh, of course they do.

Yeah, of course they do.

Then we'll have time

for things

like wedding rings.

And three hearts will sing

when the lights go on again

all over the world.

I listened to this this weekend and I thought, my,

my,

we should talk about world war a little bit more.

Just a little bit more.

Maybe our

conversation about a world war should be, I don't know, a little more front and center and say, I think we should talk about this.

Now,

I don't want to get all preachy

at all, but

I'd like the lights to not have to come on again all over the world.

I think they'd be great if they could stay on.

Not all the time.

I don't want to waste energy, but

I think it would be good.

I think it would be good.

I think it would be good.

Garage door openers, that'd be good.

Refrigeration, that'd be good.

You know, they talk about garage door openers later in the song.

Yeah.

When the garage opens itself all over the world.

Yeah, it's beautiful.

It is a beautiful song.

Yeah, no, I don't think we're

ready for that.

And I will say, especially after watching, you know, COVID, where we had some inconveniences occasionally um

you didn't see people react all that well to them

no it it it it tended to go badly yeah it did but it it but but remember your family members weren't missing so like all of your they were all you know yeah your sons your brothers you know i mean some you know sadly some grandparents were not were not around uh but it was uh it wasn't like the old days yeah you weren't in a factory doing things you've never done done,

you know, standing in line, you know, for food.

And you're in the factory making things to protect your son, your

father, your brother.

Yeah, but I mean, like, for example, I don't know that much about this time in history, but like, did they, I mean, DoorDash still came in World War II.

Oh, of course, DoorDash,

it was still there.

Uber Eats.

This is before Uber Eats, but DoorDash was still there.

Okay, definitely.

DoorDash was there.

Yeah, they could have that.

Sure.

So

they didn't have the type of they didn't have to deal with the hardships we had to deal with I guess is what I'm trying to say they we had much more extravagant problems uh than they did

but there were some problems of that era too I guess I don't know if you remember I don't know if you remember do you have did your grandparents go through World War II and the Depression yeah I guess yeah

you guess

damn it he's a Canadian spy no no nobody

How do you mean you guess?

I mean, I hadn't done the math on it per se, but I.

Okay, well, they didn't go through it then.

If your grandparents, they did.

Yes, they must have.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, they did.

No.

Sarah,

did your grandparents go through it?

Did your grandparents go through it?

They absolutely did.

Yeah.

I mean, I think they know it might.

Excuse me.

Excuse me.

Excuse me, Mr.

Spy.

When,

How do you know that, Sarah?

We were not allowed to waste anything.

Yes.

Nothing ever was a waste.

Correct.

Did you have to recycle Christmas paper?

Everything.

Yeah.

Even the tissue.

Even the tissue.

Foil.

Foil was cleaned off afterwards and folded back and put in the drawer.

Your grandparents.

Might have been in Germany.

Do you really want to make that argument?

Not with a name then.

We move on.

We're talking about your grandparents.

Because my grandparents were not in Germany.

How about your

grandparents were not either?

Great.

No, like maybe.

Great, great.

Maybe.

Lots of your uncles and stuff were.

They were all over there in fancy uniforms.

Just look it up.

I just wouldn't look it up.

No, I think

I do.

I do, now that you say that, do remember some of that.

Now, remember,

I did, of course, my great-great-grandparents were great, but one set of grandparents lived somewhat far away.

So the only time I really got to see them was around holidays and like really nice times where we were very much spoiled.

So waste was not something necessarily that they were highly focused on at that point.

But my grandmother was very much, I do remember her doing a lot of the stuff.

She was very focused on that.

She was very frugal.

uh very um protective of of the the leftovers yeah i do remember that i yeah i don't you know she didn't constantly talk to me about human strife so maybe

neither did ours wasn't the way she framed it neither did ours but growing up we learned the lesson And tell me if it wasn't the same with you, Sarah.

We learned the lesson,

you don't know it could happen again.

Right?

And didn't they say those very words to you?

Yep.

Yeah.

You don't know what it was like, and it can happen again.

Grandma, grandpa, it's not going to happen.

That's what they said before.

Oh, my gosh, you would just, it would spiral out of control.

And only on

food and

waste, they were just so drilled down on you.

Have no idea when you have to scrimp and save what that's like.

And, you know, I remember when I moved out on my own the first time and I had nothing.

I had a little box, an Apple box with a little teeny black and white TV on it and a mattress on the floor.

And my grandmother gave me the lecture of, oh, you think that's not having a lot of?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do you have food?

Okay, grandma.

Okay.

I got it.

I mean,

I think we should, I just, again, I think we should talk about it.

Because it's funny.

You have these conversations about all these high-minded principles and ideas, and you realize that, I mean, you can look around the world right now.

Lots of countries are in the same position that we were in in World War II or worse, right?

Like where they have no food and people are starving in their communities and disease is wiping out their societies constantly.

They don't have a lot of high-minded conversations about anything.

No, it's strange.

It all goes away in those moments.

And, you know, you listen to the world today wanting to seemingly risk a World War III type of situation.

And some people even wanting to risk a Civil War situation.

And any of those people thinking about that really need to think about it maybe more than a tweet.

You know, maybe it's more thought than Twitter can provide.

Give me 20 seconds here just to say one thing.

And I want you to just to imagine, unless you're driving, close your eyes for a second.

Imagine going outside because you hear something.

And so you're in your building and you're at work and everybody's coming outside or you're at home and you're coming outside and you're looking up and you see ICBMs

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that's what we're talking about

when we talk about World War III

That's what you will see if, God forbid, it goes nuclear.

I don't know.

I think think now is probably the time to discuss it.

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You know what strikes me when you talk about the missiles flying?

Yeah.

Eventually they land.

The flying over the sky part is actually the good part before the landing part, which is then really, really bad.

I've got news for you, and this is going to make you feel better.

Okay.

Okay.

Because the landing part's bad.

They never really land.

They're usually up about 350 feet.

That's a good point.

Yeah.

And if they're nuclear, they don't necessarily land.

Yeah.

They just wipe out.

That moment is always the most powerful moment in movies.

Like, did you see A Quiet Place Part 2?

Yes.

Which is, I like both of those moments.

I like really good.

Really good.

But the first scene there is they're all at their little league games.

They're all living normal lives.

And this is the first part that what happens in these movies happens, right?

Can you imagine?

And that moment is like what's seared into your mind, particularly from that movie when it was very well done.

But that's the scene in every one of these movies when you discover it.

Like Independence Day, everything from

alien attack to nuclear war, those moments set into place

years and years and years of horror show.

And look, when you're talking about, you know, some of the Civil War stuff is just online idiotic discourse, but some of it's psychotic and real.

But when you talk about what's going on with Russia, it's real.

Any moment that can spiral out of control, that could be a week from now.

That is how we are sitting here with Joe Biden in control as this is teetering on the brink of whatever it's going to wind up becoming.

It's terrifying when you really think about it.

That's why I try not to think about it, Glenn.

Well, you're welcome.

But you brought up a good point in all of the movies.

And we say, I mean, haven't you watched the movies?

All of the movies do show that.

You're a little league or something, and you see that.

Okay.

We've got to disband Little League.

Wow, you're right.

That's the problem.

Yes, the missiles are all in those, but little games are always in those, too.

You have a full-time supporter from my wife.

She would be an activist on the silver skin.

Oh, my God.

Trust me.

I went out to my grandson's football and my granddaughter's soccer game.

Yeah.

Oh,

my.

not fall here.

It's not fall.

I would say it was hot this weekend.

Yeah.

And

last weekend, I think it was 108.

You know, and I don't really want to sit in the bleachers at 108.

It shows real dedication.

You're not a real parent unless you're doing that.

That's through real, that's when you hit that dedication point.

I will sit out in 108 degrees for four hours to watch my kid bat twice.

Yeah.

That's when you know you're a real parent.

It really is.

Yeah.

Really is.

All right.

Okay, back in just a second with something that is: hey,

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the food deserts in Chicago, right?

Right?

There's a good idea.

City-owned grocery stores.

What could possibly go wrong with that?

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We're going to have to talk about Russell Brand tomorrow.

There's something really important happening with Russell Brand that you need to be aware of.

We'll talk about that.

On tomorrow's program, Stu has been hounding me all day because he says I have something really important to share.

And it's uplifting.

Yeah, very uplifting.

Okay.

Would you like to hear it?

Yeah, I'd love to hear it.

You've been avoiding it all day.

I was like, well, no, go ahead.

Go ahead.

Well, it's

a great story.

A woman named Liz.

Liz.

Liz.

All right.

Made her first ever TikTok.

Okay.

Should we have some music, some happy music behind this?

I think that would be.

I mean, it would certainly capture the wonderful

story I'm about to tell.

All right.

The story about Liz.

Yeah, here we go.

Listen, give it a shot.

She made her first.

No, that's.

No, this is not.

No, that's not good music at all for the story.

This is Liz.

All right, anyway, go ahead.

And her first ever,

so a woman named Liz made her first ever post on TikTok.

TikTok.

In a powerful way.

She did it.

Which is happy.

A real sentence in a news story.

Yeah, in a very powerful way.

She made her first ever post on TikTok in a powerful way.

Wow.

Huh.

Sharing her identity and story and highlighting, Glenn, that there's no wrong time to show up in the world as your fullest, most authentic self.

Wow, I have a feeling

this is not going to be as happy as I was expecting, but maybe even happier.

Maybe even happier.

Maybe that's right.

That's the way to look at something.

So in her TikTok post, she said

her mom told her at 11 years old,

we should probably have the talk.

Have the talk.

And we all know what that means.

The talk.

The talk.

The talk.

Talk about the birds and the bees.

well yeah yeah yeah i mean like maybe in your weird world that's what happened but what what did list's world was a little different because

uh liz was apparently curious she said i was so curious she's bi-curious maybe even yeah i don't even get to that part of the story all right so i was so curious i was like i just want to know when am i going to get my period

Her mom she said that to her mom.

Right.

When am I going to get my boobs?

Okay, yeah.

When do I get these tampons?

Right.

She wondered.

She wondered.

Yeah.

And her mom said, well, we have to have a talk.

We have to have a talk.

You have to understand.

This is when

her mom told Liz that she was biologically male.

Wait,

I don't understand.

Can we,

what do you mean?

And then I think that's that same horn and that happens.

So wait, so

does she have male parts?

Well, that's a great question.

It is.

Let me just go on with the story and not answer it.

Liz's mom revealed that she wouldn't be going through puberty.

Not in the way she expected.

Right.

Liz explained, she sat me down at the dining room table, all formal, with a folder of medical information and says, you are biologically male.

You're not going to get a period.

Again, I'm having a little.

You're not going to get a period.

you're not gonna have kids you

are intersex

again not what i was expecting uh i'm not

now poor list had a visceral

that's actually the perfect reason it really does go every time yes go ahead so list had a visceral reaction stating that the wallpaper on the wall started to melt off yeah sure

yeah it would surprise me because i would be expecting i mean i wouldn't be but if mom was like doing this and she brought up Melgrim, I'm like, I'm a boy.

That's not what mom.

It was even more shocking than that.

I think.

You're intersex.

Yeah, and I don't.

Well, honestly, I don't know.

I don't know

what is happening in the story.

I will be honest with you, Glendi.

My first thought was, okay, intersex, that's like

what they used to call hermaphrodite, which is now a bad word, apparently.

But that

the horn gets me every time.

So I don't know.

Like, that's what I thought it was.

Because if you read this literally, you would say, okay,

they did not explain to her.

Like,

I don't know what she, like, what things look like, but at some point it's different down there.

And her mom, like, I guess let her believe she was going to have all these normal

female puberty moments.

Mom shouldn't have sprung this up.

Mom should have eased into into this one.

Beginning really.

But then I don't really understand because if she's biologically male.

Okay.

So she's biologically male and she goes

and apparently goes through this process.

So I'm trying to figure out like, okay, is she like a

intersex, meaning the old school hermaphrodite bonuses?

I'd hardly hope that intersex means that now.

Right.

Well, I, and I, so I did look it up.

Okay.

Um, and so I don't know because my reading it really, when I read the details of it, I think what's happening here is she just thought she was a girl, and her mom sat her down and was like, Hey, you're a dude.

And she's like, Wait, I'm not going to get a period.

No, because you're a dude.

And then the wallpaper started melting or something.

I don't know.

This is not the story you really promised.

You know, where the world makes sense.

Oh, I didn't say that.

I definitely didn't say that.

I read too far.

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What the hell is that mean?

Yeah, I don't know.

Like, I, are we getting to this point where, like,

just like all these other letters in the LGBTQQIA2 plus or whatever they are, they're just sort of like states of mental doubting or

Maybe on the other hand, certainty that you're something that you're not, right?

Like, there's just, we just now have people who say they're non-binary, whatever that means,

because they say they're non-binary.

That's sort of the definition of non-binary.

Hang on, hang on, hang on.

Put the music back.

That's true.

It works so much better.

Makes me even kind of happy.

Yeah.

So she wound up having to take all sorts of hormones to

simulate

to kind of simulate

a normal puberty, puberty, whatever that means.

Right.

She went on estrogen at age 11,

but she didn't develop breasts until age 22.

And she noted

there isn't any scientific explanation as to why things happened the way that they did.

Okay.

I think she's probably wrong about that last one.

Hey, yeah.

Yeah.

I'd like to see if.

I got to take a break.

We'll be back in just a second.

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Well, the city of Highland Park partnered with the Alliance for Human Human Services, Family Focus, the Moraine Township, and the Highland Park Community Foundation to host a poverty simulation event.

So residents could understand and have awareness of what it's like to live in poverty.

Now,

I don't know why they canceled this.

I guess they thought it was in poor taste, but I mean, these are people really trying.

Participants in this immersive experience will begin to experience what a month in poverty feels like.

And participants will be put into situations in which they don't have enough resources and are forced to make difficult choices that can impact them and their families negatively.

And it was supposed to be held at the Highland Park Country Club.

So

I want you to wrap it.

Pretend you're in a country club right now, Stu.

Okay.

Because I have some of these, they're very difficult situations where you don't have enough resources

and you're going to be forced into making difficult decisions.

Okay, sure.

So

here comes problem number one, situation number one.

Remember, you're poor.

Okay.

Your stock portfolio is down 3.5%

in just the last six months.

Oh, my God.

Don't worry.

You're still up over $2 million in unrealized assets, but you have lost $100,000 in unrealized profit.

What do you do?

Do you move your stocks into bonds

or

do you move your bonds and try to balance it better with some more in health care?

and possibly oil?

Or do you say, just what the heck?

I'm going to let it ride.

Well, I mean, it's really hard to relate to a situation like this.

You're on the clock.

I think in this particular situation, now I'm thinking as a poor person.

You're thinking as a poor person who's a rich person, thinking as a poor person.

Yes.

Okay.

So what's happening to you, Stu?

I would

probably as a poor person, I would probably sell some till you are out of time.

And see, it's almost an impossible situation.

Okay.

This is why you don't want to be in this situation.

I have the next one.

You're in the market for a new car.

Right.

Now,

it's a Range Rover in the autobiography, and I don't want you to freak out by that, but that's because you're just buying that one

for the danny.

So it doesn't have to be, you know,

it's just a car.

It can just be whatever.

But you have found out that

the average service cost

is higher than other cars in its league okay okay so do you go with the bentley battega

or do you say what the hell just it's the nanny she's worth it damn it and uh go with those higher service costs

So the Bentley is not worth it.

You could get the Bentley.

You could.

Could I get

more expensive in rest?

I'm not sure if the Nanny.

I'm poor.

Oh, I'm poor.

So I care about the nanny in this situation.

Well, no, you can't.

You're probably having an affair with the nanny.

Okay, that's interesting information.

So you're carting around potentially your kin.

Okay.

And

think, man, the Bentley is more expensive, but they kind of equal out when the prices are.

I think that's true.

We are.

We're all out of time.

I haven't done the math on that, but I don't think the Range Rover and the service cost equals a Bentley.

These are really, this is a tough.

I don't know how to do that.

What hits me as you're telling me this stuff, Chloe, how do people live like this?

How do people live like this?

You haven't even gotten to the tough one yet.

Okay.

Okay, this is a tough one.

You're in the grocery store.

Okay.

Now, remember, you're poor.

Right.

And the grocery store is, I mean, it's still.

Wait, wait, wait.

Why would I be in the grocery store?

Oh, yeah, I'm poor.

I'm not here.

Because I would never obviously see it.

I know, I know, I know.

But imagine, I'm just asking.

I don't want to trigger you.

You're not actually in the store.

Just imagine that you are.

Okay.

Now, it's not closed and everything's on the shelf.

Okay.

But your regular butcher behind the counter, the meat counter, he's not there.

And he always slices your carpaccio

very, very thin.

Right.

He's got it right.

Okay.

And you were surprised when this first happened because he's an immigrant and you're like,

what do they know?

Right.

But you found out later his name is Emilio.

He's from the old country.

Of course he has carpaccio.

So now

he's not there.

Okay.

So

do you allow somebody named Derek,

not Derek,

not like Derek, like you know, Derek.

Do you, you don't know what dog country he's from.

Do you allow him to cut your carpaccio?

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

Or do you go without

Carpaccio?

Yeah, you go without Carpaccio.

I mean, I think I would allow him to

slice it, but then berate him endlessly until he eventually got it right and cut it to my knees.

Wow.

Wow.

He's got.

Congratulations.

I'm a real pork person now.

Do you see what they go through?

Do you see what they go through?

This is illuminating.

Yeah.

You know, I hope they get their arugula.

I hope eventually we get have to do that.

The store was not out.

I should have said that.

Don't imagine the store.

I did say it's fully stocked.

Right.

And I hope that's not.

But I don't know what's in poor person stores.

Like, do they have all food?

And like, how do they do?

How do they do things?

It's very gray.

Okay.

I think.

Everything is under

box.

It's just like.

It's so hard to repeat.

Poor crackers.

Right.

Right.

Yeah.

That's what I picture.

Poor people bread.

Poor people bread.

It says that.

Yeah.

And

luckily,

almost expired meat.

It says that

on the meat counter right above.

Right.

It's the stuff that comes out of the catering services that would, but, you know.

Yeah, stuff that we wouldn't eat here in the country club.

Right.

You know.

In the Wonderful Country Club with member stuff.

Right.

Yeah.

So, okay, that's, I think I learned something today.

I don't know why they canceled this

simulation.

And I'm glad we can, you know, I didn't want to just do this with stew.

I hope you learned a lot today, too, on simulating what it feels to be poor.

You know, because you can't relate to it.

You can't relate to it unless you have a group of rich people with their

NGO.

I wouldn't call them friends, but people they have around them so they, you know, look as good as they usually are.

You know what I mean?

But they don't actually spend time talking to them coming in and doing an event like this.

I often think, you know, like no one buys the entry-level Lexus, and then you realize they're making them for a reason.

Someone

is buying the entry-level Lexus.

They're making Lexus.

Who's buying Lexus?

Right, exactly.

But this is the reality of the world.

Even fully loaded, you know what I'm saying?

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