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So today,

I really want to talk to people who

disagree with me because I don't.

You can disagree with me on things and, you know,

that's normal.

But I really don't understand people who,

for instance, are Democrat and at this point hasn't seen what is happening to our country and

what has happened to the Democratic Party.

So I want to talk to common sense Democrats.

And what I mean is I don't, no political hacks.

I want honest conversation.

I'm not going to try to change your mind.

I want you to know up front.

I'm not going to

try to change your mind.

I I am not going to

make you look foolish or anything else.

I never invite people.

This is

probably the longest running

rule we have.

If I invite people into my house, I do not

embarrass them or bring them in unless they know.

If you say, this is not going to be a pleasant conversation, then they know coming in.

You're not walking into a friendly room.

You're walking into a friendly room.

I am not trying to change your mind.

I am not trying to argue with you.

I really, truly just want to listen and understand.

So I'm going to ask questions, but they'll be honest questions not to make you look bad or to win.

And if I want to call you stupid, I'll shut up.

Okay.

That's my promise.

To me, in case you want to call me stupid?

I'll call you stupid.

Okay.

I'm just saying to a caller who you're promising you'll be nice to, I won't then inject in the conversation and call you stupid while you're being nice.

Thank you, Stu.

See?

This is how you come together, America.

We're modeling this behavior.

I'm wondering.

I'm wondering.

So we're opening up the phones now, 888-727-B-E-C-K.

And it can be a lot of things.

It can be, you know, you voted for Joe Biden.

And

you're seeing things now, but you can't bring yourself to vote for a Republican.

Okay, believe me, I understand that.

I just want to understand

where you are.

I don't want to just preach to the choir.

I really want to understand the people who are sitting in the pews or the people who are outside of the church going, this is a sham inside that church.

888-727-BECK.

So while we're screening through the calls, can you give me,

like, are you looking for someone, let's say, who was a Clinton or Biden voter in the past two elections?

Something like that.

Someone.

Obama.

Yeah.

Clinton or Obama.

Obama.

Okay.

Someone who's voted in the past, maybe someone who is looking at this election and saying, you know, I don't like what Biden's doing, but I can't deal with Trump or DeSantis or

any of these republics.

Preferably, but

I don't know if anybody would

call in, but preferably somebody who says, I still like Biden.

I still like him.

I voted for him and I still like him.

Or yeah, yeah, maybe you like, even though if you don't think he's the most dynamic candidate in the world, you like the policies better than

the Republican policies.

And, you know,

you see what the media is saying about him as accurate.

What about this person?

Because the media says this person does not exist.

A person who was a Trump over Clinton voter.

But in those four years, switched to Biden.

And we know there were, you know, a lot of those people,

Trump, then Biden, now coming back to Trump.

Because they say once you switch from Trump, you're never going back to Trump.

So if you're Trump Biden, you're going to be Biden again.

That's what the media keeps telling us.

So a Trump, Biden, Trump person.

If they exist.

Do they exist?

Okay.

We're like those

nature shows where we're like going through the forests.

Right.

We're like looking for a rare creature that has never before been discovered.

So Kathy is a common sense Democrat and she's in in Florida.

Hello, Kathy.

Thank you for listening.

Hi.

Hi.

How are you?

Very good.

I'm excited that you talked to me because I'm wondering when somebody with my thoughts are going to be popping on your radio show.

Really?

Well, I'm glad.

Right now you're here.

I'm glad.

Okay.

So tell me your thoughts.

Where are you and what have you been thinking?

Well, I'm disgusted with all the old guys running for office and the fact that we just seem to be stuck in name games and name calling instead of worrying about what's happening to me, the average American, who makes under $100,000 a year.

And I don't care what side of the aisle you're on.

They're just not in it for me.

Well, I can

understand that.

Now,

is there

anyone on the horizon that you, even if they're not running, that you would say this person?

Well, surprisingly, you know, the debate for the Republican was pretty good, but we're not going to end up with a woman president, so I don't even want to mention her name.

Oh, so no, no, no, Nikki Haley.

So you like Nikki Haley.

When what do you like about her?

She seems willing to listen to everybody.

I mean, the whole abortion question was very,

you know, more centered on

let's make a medical decision and not let's make a law.

And, you know, there are women who have medical issues

who almost die because the doctors are afraid to abort and the child, you know, that's not an

a viable fetus

or baby or whatever you want to call it, you know.

And the doctors are afraid they're going to lose their license and the woman almost loses her life because how sick do you have to be to be

you know endangered your your life endangered and I just think that we are taking too many things you know here in Florida you can't take a factual book about two penguins who happen to be male and raise an egg you know not the fact that it's just two birds that don't normally do things it's just the fact that they're good birds you know I mean and we have to take that out of the school because it's

a damage people.

So if you want to be interested in your child's life, be interested in your child's life, not your neighbor's child's life.

Okay.

So

where do you stand on schools and what's being taught in schools?

Are you fine with the

drag queen story hour or?

Drag queen story hour, I think, is fine at the public library.

And, you know, I can understand, I can see where parents should be able to opt their kids out of that.

And I don't know how many drag queens actually go into the schools.

So, you know,

that I understand where parents can have a problem with that.

But the library is a fine place to have that so that

you have the choice to bring your child there or not.

Would you be fine with Kirk Cameron coming in with religious-centered books into the library?

Sure.

you have the choice to bring your child there or not okay

do you think school just needs to be story hour pardon me and you know bring a politician in maybe I don't know let Rick Scott go read a book or

Kamala Harris not that we're going to get a VP in there or a senator but you know

so where do you stand

so where do you stand on parental rights in school on

you know the parents having a right to know what their kids are doing if they're transitioning.

Do the parents have a right

to know that

your child goes to school six or seven hours a day, and then you have them for 18.

If you don't know what's going on with them, how involved of a parent are you?

Is my first question.

Okay.

Now,

let's say that's, you know, let's just accept that premise.

But should the school be able to keep information from you?

I don't think they should be able to hide information, but I certainly don't think that they need to be saying, your child wants to be called by a different name today.

You know, there are children, especially little, you know, the younger kids.

I mean, sometimes they want to be a dog.

You know, I mean,

they're just trying on what they hear in the world, what they hear at home, what they hear, you know, in school.

And so is

do you think that's healthy mentally for them?

I mean, I'm not talking about little kids.

I'm talking about, you know, teenagers that say, I'm a dog.

Or I'm a girl who says, I'm a boy.

Should that just be accepted?

I think we should should help them.

Wouldn't it be nice if we had some counselors at school so they could help them instead of one for every five high schools or, you know, two guidance counselors for 3,000 students in a high school?

Sure.

But should the parents be involved in that?

Should the parents be notified if a school counselor is notified that they honestly think that they're a boy?

I think they should ask their parents.

I think they should be finding out if they've talked to their parents and encourage them to talk to their parents.

But

I think that's a small percentage of students.

I think we have more bullies and we're concentrating on this.

And we have more bullies who then go and shoot up schools.

You know, and that's a bigger problem.

I mean, if your child is trying to be trans and you don't know about it and you're upset about it,

That's not going to affect me as much as your child is a bully and you know about it and you don't do anything and they go in and they shoot up my child.

Yeah, I mean I think those are two different

issues.

They are, but

my whole thing is we're spending too much time and energy.

Florida is wasting so much time and energy on this and we have a rent and a rent housing and insurance crisis right now.

I mean, it's $1,200 for 400 square feet.

No, I know.

We're making $12 or $14 an hour.

So that's the problem.

That's the 2% of the children that want to be something.

We're wasting too much energy politically on stuff that is not.

So let me ask you,

what is causing the high rise in prices of homes in Florida?

Well, that's a good question.

Well,

do you have any thoughts on that?

The cost of the house, or are you talking about the rent?

So the cost or the rent?

What would be the cause of rising rents?

Greed.

Greed?

Supply and demand.

Yeah, greed.

If I raise the price, they'll have to pay it.

And

if they don't, somebody else will.

Okay, you were going to say the second one, which is supply and demand.

And that's different than greed.

But there are plenty of houses for sale right now.

But you can't afford the 20% down because you don't make enough money, so you have to rent.

Uh-huh.

So why do we have the problem?

There's workforce housing, and they're overcharging for that.

They're overcharging what the law allows for workforce housing.

You know, the government's not doing its job and tracking the important things that help lower-cost people.

They're not helping the insurance go down.

You know, eight insurance companies have left South Florida for homeowners.

That's a lot.

Can I get back to

the housing thing?

What is causing the price to go up?

I mean, besides greed.

Hello?

I don't know.

You know, I mean, I'm not.

Could it be that

other states that are raising taxes and stifling business and stifling people on making choices for people instead of letting them make their own choices, that that influx of that many people is driving the housing prices up.

We don't have a ton of people coming down.

We're not bringing in new businesses, but what is happening is people can work remotely now.

The weather is much better here than it is everywhere else.

Okay, so it's a weather thing.

Well, it's beautiful.

I mean,

I've lived in Florida.

I know.

I know.

All right.

Kathy, thank you for calling.

I appreciate it.

You're welcome.

You bet.

You bet.

You bet.

You bet.

That was very difficult,

especially for Stu.

Don't say, no, I just want to listen to people today.

I may not be able to make it three hours, but

I learned something there.

It's interesting to hear her list of concerns.

No, it is.

It is.

And it's

there's a disconnect there.

And I don't know what it is, and I don't know how to help it, but there is a disconnect.

We're looking for things that maybe we can connect and help people, and she can help me understand

what people are feeling.

And I will tell you that,

you know, I tend to think that it is the Fed and the banks and the government that have all colluded to,

you know, make money for the people at the very, very top

and the things like ESG

and BlackRock that are coming in and just buying up all these homes

at higher prices than even offered.

You know, I think there's there's a lot to do with that, but also supply and demand on the influx of people.

And there is a huge influx of people in Florida and in Texas and some of these other freer states.

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I thought you did a good job.

Yeah.

You kept to your promise.

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I know, but you were making faces.

Not on the radio, I wasn't.

No, not on the radio.

I wasn't.

You

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I ended it and I thought, I ended it because I thought you were going to leave a piece of your tongue on your desk.

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okay i don't want to start with uh i don't want to start with anybody because i want to spend time today actually listening and talking and just asking questions um

michelle in kansas Jacob in Washington, Matthew, North Carolina.

Michelle says

she'd vote RFK Jr.

over Trump.

Love to hear that.

Disagree about free education.

Really want to hear that.

Disagree about the state of the country.

Great things.

So if you are somebody who has

who you happen to be listening to this program, you're listening for a reason today.

I don't know what it is, but you're here for a reason.

And if you happen to really disagree, I want to know how you got there.

And I guess,

you know, with Kathy talking about,

you know, drag queen story hour, and there's no way to really

know, and I don't think people would say this, but, you know, even Bill Maher said,

you know, that no one is going to say a man could have a baby.

He said that five years ago.

His audience laughed at the idea that men could have a baby and that, oh, he even said, you know, where are you getting that, right winger?

Now that is accepted.

And so I'd like to know what changed your mind on that, because that was a very, very narrow view.

What changed so many people's minds?

What new evidence did you get that this is okay?

The mutilation of our children?

You know, do you see the effects on another subject of the Fed?

Who's responsible for the prices going up?

What is causing that?

I promise you, I am not going to make you look foolish, and I won't.

I'm not trying to change your mind.

I just want to listen to you.

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I hope our first caller is still listening.

You know, she was worried about housing, and she's right to worry about housing.

But when you look at it, and this is where we need to

focus, and I don't want to change anybody's mind when they're on, if they listen, that's great.

I just want to ask you questions.

But when it comes to housing, the reason why our housing prices are so high right now, a few reasons.

One, after 08, there was no supply.

We didn't build new places

because nobody wanted to take that risk afterwards.

We didn't do it because of 2020.

Everything became bogged down.

So there are fewer

that are available then the interest rates also play a very big role on not being able to afford a house those interest rates are set by the Fed to control inflation what causes inflation spending and printing too much money we are two trillion dollars over our budget

this year alone then you have the pressure of places like BlackRock and Vanguard that are buying up whole communities

because they want to be a renter.

Why?

Because they understand

where the world is being pushed with Build Back Better, the WEF we talk about in the Great Reset.

That is,

you will own nothing and you will rent everything.

Well, someone's going to own those things.

And those someones believed they are BlackRock and Vanguard.

That's what the fundamentals are happening.

And And then you add things like you've got a governor who is making business easier and not restricting people so they can live free.

And people are moving away from oppressive states like New York.

That's what's happening.

And there's other things, but that's how you would correct that.

Michelle.

In Kansas.

Hello, Michelle.

How are you?

I'm wonderful.

Good morning.

Thank you so much for calling in.

You're welcome.

So you say you would vote for RFK Jr.

over Trump.

Tell me your background of who you vote for.

Or are you conservative or liberal or what?

Actually,

my family is staunch Republican.

But because

of the people that were running, I chose Clinton

at the time.

I didn't really research him.

I

liked him better.

And I was seriously tired of the bushes.

And

then when it came to Obama, I was in Washington state and I didn't really like what I was seeing.

And it was a mail-in ballot, so I didn't mail it in because that's all of Washington state.

And then when it came to 2016, I have watched, you know, had watched

Donald Trump.

Donald Trump, thank you.

And on Apprentice and just really didn't like the man.

I knew he was a businessman, you could say.

But I didn't like him personally.

And so, and of course I didn't like Hillary Clinton, so I chose not to vote.

Okay.

And family, when I get back here into Kansas.

You know, they were, they're big Trumpers and they said, come on and vote.

And I said, well, my vote never counts anyway.

Sure enough, as far as I'm concerned, it didn't.

The reason that I would go for Kennedy is two years ago, I was taken to an anti-effects

thing here in Kansas, and he didn't make it that year.

But I, you know, the doctors were showing the slides, they were telling us what was going on.

This is what's going to happen to you.

And sure enough, you know, the next two years, it's exactly what they said.

And so I

have chosen not, I chose not to do any of that.

Me too.

So let me ask you, Michelle, are you anti-vax or you're anti-vaccine for this particular and others that you might do research on?

Or are you just blanket anti-vaccine?

At this point, I'm blanket anti-vaccine.

And I also have the slip from even this year.

for the children and they're getting like the babies are getting hep b

they don't need hep i mean there's a whole list of things you shouldn't give a baby.

All right.

So, okay.

So, is that your only issue?

Well, just period, because I won't put that in my body because I just, you have that instinct.

Right.

I have allergies to like, you know, like Iodine.

You can't give me a CAT scan.

So I knew that I, you know, I wasn't going to take a chance of having allergies.

Right.

So I'm just asking if this is your only, this is the thing that you're voting on is anti-vax.

Well, it's nice to hear him talk about.

And then I happened to come out of the doctor's office and

the little girl had a dress on and I said, cute dress.

And she goes, she has autism.

And I went, yep, I bet you gave her the shot.

And when I asked a couple people lately if they gotten the shot, they said yes.

And then they got the COVID.

And the man now has Mercer in his leg and and they may take it off.

I didn't argue with him and I didn't give him any grief.

Right.

Michelle, I appreciate it.

RFK Jr., if you are, if that is your issue,

he's your man.

Jacob in Washington, go ahead.

Yes.

Yeah.

So

the disconnect.

business owner Washington

and it's I'm starting to believe in the free education.

You know, I think we really, really should do it.

It's right now, prices have just gone through the roof.

And if we give this free education, you know, if everybody's going to go to college, they're going to feel very great.

And at least now we're going to have a big influx of great education, educated people.

And we know cause and effect, which they do not teach.

That is the disconnect between us and them, is the disconnect of cause and effect.

Nobody knows cause and effect anymore these days.

Correct.

So

let's go on that.

We have things like

men can have babies and all kinds of different things, Marxism, et cetera, et cetera.

And that is coming out of our schools

as the cause of most of this kind of thinking.

The effect that you're seeing now on the streets,

making our education even closer aligned, all of it, with government and a government that

colludes with the unions,

you find that to be a better thing?

Yes.

Well, they're working on getting rid of cause and effect, and they've done well.

As a business owner, there is a line of generation of people that were taught before a certain age and people taught after a certain age and they lose all cause and effect and that's correct correct but it is what we need so but why would you pump in because you're going to pump all these people back into the same thing a business owner on

This is why people lobby and this is why they give so much money is so they can keep pumping all of these people in and out.

They just become drones and everything.

And that is the greatest thing that they are doing.

And I say jump on board.

Okay, so hang on just a second.

I just, I'm sorry, Jacob.

I'm not trying to be argumentative here.

I'm really trying to understand.

So

you see the problem

with the system as it is now, but you want

to make sure that the government

doubles down on that and gives all education free.

Yes.

So with your cause and effect, does the government being involved in things like health care and not involved in things like televisions, is there a reason health care education goes up the more they get involved?

And on things where they're not involved, like televisions, we can go from $10,000 to $200?

Yes.

it would drop everything down.

There would be a mass influx.

If the government was doing it?

If the government was doing it, if we give out free health care or free education, it will drop the prices down.

Okay, no.

But wait, wait, wait, wait.

Again, I'm not trying to change your mind.

I just.

Okay.

Okay.

That is not evidence-based.

What is evidence-based is when the government gets involved and the more involved,

for instance, we have Obamacare.

They're supposed to drop the price.

It didn't.

It made it higher.

Education, we pay the most money in the world and our education is getting worse.

The more the government gets involved, it actually drives the price up for that education and the quality usually goes down.

It does.

Yes, that is fact.

But you need to take it all over.

You can't just do little bits and pieces.

You know, healthcare went up in price because the people who were paying health care now has to pay for the people that weren't paying health care.

But now, if you give everybody the health care all at the same, you know, big companies to smaller companies.

That's why big companies are lobbying so they can kill us smaller companies because we can't afford doing all this Obama stuff.

But it's

better if we tried to limit and get rid of lobbying?

It would, but we'll never win.

Ever, ever.

Okay.

You know, these companies are too big, too large, too powerful.

You know, us smaller companies, there is no more mom and pop shops.

And if there is, you know, we make less than what we could work for for the bigger companies.

And that's just a fact.

That's what life is.

So I,

Jacob, I so thank you for your call.

I'm a small business owner as well.

And

I was offering

my employees the best health insurance available.

In fact, at one point, I was the only Blue Cross Blue Shield employer in the entire state of New York and New York City that was still offering this plan because it became so grossly expensive after Obamacare.

They eventually discontinued it, and

Obamacare was charging me for a Cadillac tax, trying to do the right thing.

Now that insurance isn't even offered at any price.

You know,

I wonder if you really believe in cause and effect.

You might look into

the government's getting into bed with the insurance companies and how they are limiting, again,

more government, more corruption, higher prices.

Thank you for calling in.

Let me go.

What was the word you used before?

You used the word disconnect was an interesting interesting word.

I'm going to be adopting that

today.

That you're going to disconnect or there is a disconnect.

Also, a silent prayer to

help me get through this show

today.

I hope the audience can come together and just pray for me to make it through.

But don't look at it as you're frustrated.

Look at this as a learning.

No, come on.

Look at it as a learning.

What did we just learn?

I'm going to answer that question.

Here's what we learned.

There is

a lack of information

on

the truth about government involvement versus quality and cost.

Every time, this is why our universities are so wildly expensive.

Because once the government said, we'll take care of the loans, we'll guarantee the loans, we'll take care of the loans, the price of the university education went through the roof.

I had a totally unrelated issue actually recently.

I went to the doctor and they said, hey, you're overweight.

How much fast food are you eating?

And I said, about half my diet.

And they said, oh, okay, well, what you need to do is make it 100% of your diet.

If you eat all fast food, then you'll lose weight.

Let me tell you about Mantis X.

If you're a shooter,

you've noticed that ammo prices have gone through the roof.

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We have Jason on the phone.

Jason, I don't mean to

give you less amount of time than you deserve, but I'm trying to squeeze you in here.

You disagree with me about our system of government.

Tell me about that.

Yes, yes.

Well, so I've studied,

read a few books over the years,

and I don't want to get into conspiracies, though I believe in them.

And our system of government,

we keep saying, well, we need to go out and vote.

We need to go out and vote.

We need to do this.

I don't believe it does a darn bit of good.

They're all puppets anyways, especially when we've got the deep state and we've got things going on behind the scenes.

And we could see it with Trump.

When he doesn't do what the system wants him to do, they bury him.

And

these other most politicians get in there and they just

end up compromising and doing whatever they're told anyways and i just don't it's never changed it's it just never changed

so what do you so what do you suggest because i do believe there are a lot of good people that are in trying to fight but they are overwhelmed by the

because we didn't pay attention for so long so what is what is your solution to that

a new form of government

not necessarily but how about self-governance i don't need the government to govern me Correct.

If I learn correct principles,

I can govern myself.

Correct.

So I just don't see why we place so much emphasis on, especially

a president.

I mean, I think our local elections are more important than anything, but

so Jason, you and I actually don't, we actually don't disagree.

You're exactly right.

That is our system of government.

What our system of government has become is oppressive.

But our system of government was originally to allow you to govern yourself.

And those correct principles are all in our Bill of Rights and our Declaration of Independence.

So now, are we going to clean it up

or are we just going to dismantle it?

Because if we dismantle it,

just repeat the poem of Humpty Dumpty.

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For people who disagree with me or disagree with the right,

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Okay.

We have Matt in Pennsylvania who disagrees about the attack at the Capitol.

Hello, Matt.

Hi, how are you, Glenn?

Long-time listener.

In fact,

coming up

2003 Halloween episode is the first time I heard you it's coming up on 20 years.

Oh, my gosh.

Wow.

You've seen some changes.

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Yeah, I think it was FLA 970 at the time.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Are you still in Florida?

No, you're in Pennsylvania.

No, no, no.

I'm actually, I'm in Pennsylvania.

I always listen to you on the internet.

I'm a truck driver, and I hear you.

Over the internet, iHeartRadio.

Okay.

Back in the day, I was an office worker.

But

the reason I call

is,

and perhaps we agree on, I mean, we agree on so many things, but I keep hearing that these people were bad that went into the Capitol.

And I will admit, the people that stole laptops, put their feet on desks, yeah, I don't agree with that.

Broke the windows.

Yep.

Broke the windows.

All that.

But the people that went into the Capitol, that went in peacefully and demonstrated,

they're not bad people.

Oh, no, no.

They're not horrible people.

And I keep hearing over and over, and maybe I'm just misunderstanding from you, but I keep hearing, oh, how dare they?

That was terrible.

We did a bad thing.

Oh, no, no, no.

Wait, wait, wait.

Wait,

this is really important to address.

Thank you for bringing this up, Matt.

Important to address because

there were bad actors there.

There were people that that's what they intended to do.

And you could tell because they were wearing all black.

I'm not saying they're Antifa, but I'm not saying that either.

There were people that were there that were breaking the windows, breaking the doors, fighting with police.

And as you will see in the coming weeks, as more and more of this January 6th video is coming out, you will see that many times the Trump supporters were protecting the police.

They were saying, we love the police.

The conservatives, real conservatives, are not anti-police.

Now, that doesn't mean that you can't be walking in a crowd with people who say they agree with you, but they don't agree on the police thing or they want to break into the Capitol.

Every single one of those people that did violent things, just like every single one of those people that burned down cities and were involved in violent things, should go to jail.

However, if you were there and you weren't participating, but you happened to be on the street in Minneapolis and you were observing and you were not doing anything, you shouldn't go to jail, nor should those who did go or are going to jail in the Capitol that did nothing.

This is a horror show from our government.

It is, this is persecution, not prosecution.

This is persecution.

And I want everybody to go to X, Twitter.

I want you to go to X and watch

Laura Logan's new

special on January 6th.

It is, it's 60 minutes quality, and it shows who they're actually prosecuting and persecuting.

They can't seem to find real ringleaders, but they are coming in and this one story that she says, this is part one, it is worth every second of watching.

This is part one of one of the people that

ended up killing himself because of the persecution from the government.

And

was a guy who believed in the police, was a guy who believed in, you know, a fair trial, believed in America.

They destroyed him and really didn't have any reason at all to charge him or harass him.

And that's what they did.

Thank you, Matt, for pointing that out.

Let me go to William in Florida.

Hi, William.

Hello, Glenn.

How are you?

I'm very good.

Are you,

who have you voted for in the last few years?

Actually, I voted for Biden.

I've been a Republican for 40 years.

And

yeah, this whole Trump thing, man, I'm sorry.

He's just, from day one,

Trump, you know, I was 20 years in the Navy, and our credo is honor, courage, commitment.

And he has shown none of that.

Never.

Okay, okay.

You got to give him some moments.

You could show something

that shows he's a decent dude, but there is a narcissism that is dangerous.

You said something earlier.

You said something about Humpty Dumpty, about dismantling the government.

And that's exactly the way I see Donald Trump.

That's exactly the way I see the MAGA movement.

And that's exactly the way I see Ron DeSantis.

There's a dismantling of something going on.

Okay, Okay, hang on just a sec.

Hang on.

William, I just want to understand.

I'm not trying to change your mind.

Just want to understand.

First of all, when I said last week, dismantle, I mean burn the place down.

If you are somebody that wants a revolution, balkanism,

you want to reset into something brand new.

That's extraordinarily dangerous.

That's why I brought in Humpty Dumpty.

Once Humpty Dumpty falls, all the King's horses, all the King's man cannot reassemble this.

Okay.

So be careful what you do if you're flushing things down the toilet.

However, we were having that in a conversation about the deep state and how the deep state

is

controlling much of what's happening in the world without any kind of elections or voting on those people.

Do you see the world that way?

So why do they want to burn it down?

I mean,

I'm genuinely curious.

The deep state,

that's the way I see it,

that

they want a great reset.

Yes.

The deep state does.

Just to back up two steps, back up two steps, Marjorie Taylor Greene calling for civil war.

That is the most dishonorable statement I've heard from an American in the past 200 years.

I don't know about that, but it is very dishonorable, and I denounce it.

I mean,

there's been some crazy things said in 200 years.

But if she said that, I would denounce that.

Did you say she called for civil war?

Yes.

She called for a separation of the states, the red and the blue.

You can call it anything you want.

You can put a capital C and a capital W.

That's the old one.

Or you can make it a lowercase, and that's what she did.

She's calling for a separation of the states.

Just the national divorce.

The national divorce.

Okay, got it.

Okay.

Sorry.

Okay.

Civil war.

That's a synonym for it.

That's all there is to it.

We're all grown men here.

We can say the truth.

And that's exactly what she's calling for.

So

may I nuance a little bit?

Absolutely.

We have had conversations of,

I wish we could peacefully just split up the states.

And I said, you know, they could even pick first.

And, you know, they pick their one and then we pick one.

And that, you know, a union broken up like this will never stand.

So it is the end of the union.

You know, as Lincoln said, we'll either be all slavery or we'll all be free.

You can't coexist and live like this, broken.

However, that is different

than saying, I want war

and I want a civil war.

Anyone who claims they want a civil war is out of their minds.

You have no idea how close we came to losing that war.

And the only reason why we won it is because we had John Quincy Adams' son over in France, and they were about to throw in with the South.

And he said, wait, wait, you'll see.

This is not what the South is saying it is.

There's no one that would support us.

And it would be awful.

Now, if they started something, you know, rounding people up, well, that's a different story.

Then you have a right to protect yourself.

But civil war is dangerous and must not happen.

And just to quickly note, there was a post that went around that Marjorie Taylor Greene did call for civil war.

That was a fabricated post, though.

So it is important, especially when we're talking about these topics that we're clear.

She is, to my knowledge, has never called for that.

Okay.

And if she, if she, she or anyone, Stu did it, if I did it,

denounce me, okay it should never that's not wise um does that help you William on that

oh yeah oh yeah okay absolutely great yeah

I'm with you on that I just but I just think Trump is leading us in a direction now listen everybody knows that follows politics that Joe Biden has never

I Let me word it like this.

If Joe Biden was to have peacefully passed away in his bed in 2017, 2016, No one would ever have mentioned his name again.

He was a subpar politician at best, but he was a safer bet than Trump, who is dangerous.

That's the

thing and I'm a Republican.

Listen, my mom voted for George Wallace.

She was a Democrat, a hardcore Democrat, and those people are all MAGA now.

There's no

Democrats down here that.

Okay, so hang on.

So hang on just a second, William.

Um, help me out on Joe Biden.

I can understand what you're saying about Donald Trump.

Um, we don't have to agree on everything, I want you to understand that, but I'm trying to understand where people are coming from.

So, I got it about Donald Trump.

Um, now talk to me about Joe Biden, what he's currently doing, and what the path that we're on as a nation.

You don't find the path we're on

extraordinarily dangerous?

Yes,

I do.

I absolutely do.

And this goes back for

40 years we've been on a dangerous path.

I mean,

look at our national debt, $32 trillion.

Those are numbers that weren't even said 30 years ago.

No, I know.

But

let me push you just a little bit further along that.

I agree.

And Dad, in things that are common sense, yes.

But

the left is dismantling even our Justice Department.

Our Justice Department is wildly corrupt right now, in my opinion.

The FBI, for the first time in my life, I don't trust the FBI.

I don't trust our government.

What I'm seeing coming out of the Pentagon is

horrifying, absolutely horrifying.

We're not prepared to fight a war.

We're so concentrated on, you know, abortion and transgender surgery

that

I don't want to fight with these people running our military.

Do you agree with any of those things?

Yes, sir.

I can't speak for the DOJ or the FBI, but the Pentagon, good lord, is it true?

I mean, you've got a guy that can fact check what I'm about to say.

Didn't they lose a trillion dollars like just last year?

Isn't that at least the second time that they've lost a trillion dollars?

Yes.

Just magically, we don't know, man.

Right.

And people say that we can't take on China and Russia at the same time.

So BS, we can absolutely take them on at the same time because the Pentagon is the most powerful entity on the planet, bar none.

And they give me the creeps, my man.

And I was part of the system for 20 years.

If Congress can't audit the Pentagon, well, then that's a problem.

Would you agree with audit the Fed as well?

I think if you audit the Pentagon, you are

if we have to go that route first to figure out the math that it takes to actually audit the Pentagon, then let's start with the Fed, my man.

Okay.

Absolutely.

William, thank you very much for your call.

We, we, we, I agree to disagree, but I'm glad you called in today.

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And here's, what was his name, Joe Friday?

Speaking to the teenagers, the 60s.

Listen.

Just don't understand.

Maybe we do, son.

Don't think you have a corner on all the virtue vision in the country, or that everybody else is fat and selfish, and you're the first generation to come along that's felt dissatisfied.

They all have, you know, about different things, and most of them didn't have the same opportunity and freedoms that you do.

Let's talk poverty.

Most places in the world, that's not a problem.

It's a way of life.

And rights?

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You're taller, stronger, healthier, better educated, and you'll live longer than the last generation.

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You've probably never seen a quarantine sign in your neighbor's door, diphtheria, scarlet fever, whooping cough.

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We've done quite a bit of fighting all around the world.

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We took a little boy into central receiving hospital yesterday.

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Why aren't you up in arms about that?

Or is dying in a car somehow moral?

Tell me how to wipe out prejudice.

I'll settle for just the prejudices you have inside yourselves.

Show me how to get rid of the unlimited capacity for human beings to make themselves believe that they're somehow right and justified in stealing from somebody or hurting somebody.

And you'll just about put this place here out of business.

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how they got there, why they're there, how they see the economy, how they see the world,

and also people who just disagree with some things that

I would say.

I really want to understand

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I can't try to do that by arguing with you, but I can learn

by asking you questions on what you think about things, how you got there, why is this a problem or not a problem.

So I welcome you to call in 888-727-BECK.

Keith is in New Hampshire.

Did you vote for Joe Biden last time, and you say you would vote for him this time?

I did vote for him last time, and yeah, I would vote for him again.

And I base it really on two things.

all right one the NLRB I think his appointments have been outstanding I think when it comes to thinking about the economy and thinking about how hard it is to be working class these days

the only way that we can really exert our power I mean there's really not much that comes down to a presidential election really just two corporate candidates I think we can agree on that but

If one corporate candidate is going to make it so that if companies interfere with union organizing, then a union gets to exist.

And that corporate candidate is giving more power to the workers than the alternative.

And I think when we spend eight hours a day at work, all day, every day,

that's where we spend our most time.

That's where we have our most influence.

And that's where we can grow our power so that maybe one day we don't have a two-party corporate duopoly.

So,

well, you know, the unions

have,

you know,

they are in with the government

now, with Joe Biden.

You wouldn't deny that.

I don't really know how that works when you think about what happened with the Grow Rotor strike.

How Biden totally undermined that effort.

I don't really know how I would see that.

And I don't know if the UAW president would agree with that.

It's going to get another issue too, by the way.

Well, I just want you to know that they've given

billions of dollars to the Democratic Party, and you don't do that unless you're supporting...

They might.

Right, because like I said,

Trump is not going to put anybody on the NLRB who's going to help unions.

Correct.

So it's in unions' best interest to help Democrats.

Because Democrats are the ones that are completely aligned with their interests.

Are unions

are unions

balanced?

I mean, when a union balances bad, corrupt capitalism, it's good.

When a union becomes corrupt, it's bad.

It's usually

somewhere in the middle where

it works.

The power that I can exert, where's my power closer to?

The company that I work for

when I have a union, or I should say, the union that I belong to, or is some company that I might work for where I'm just some peon

all on my own and they can isolate me and fire me and

run me open.

Okay.

Or you think about it in the bigger one.

Is it me versus Walmart as an individual person?

Right.

Or maybe is the union

going to do more for Walmart?

Okay.

So

I got it.

Can I ask you some other questions here?

Where do you stand on

the White House directing social media in censorship?

I think that what they were doing was they were pointing out specific things that they thought were misinformation and asking them to look at their terms of service, which by the way, I mean, I didn't like it any more when Trump did it than when Biden did it.

But but in the big grand scheme of things, it's not my biggest concern.

And knowing that Trump is going to do it over posts where he doesn't like how people talk about him, he never

did not.

I imagine he might get a little bit rough.

He was accused of saying he was going to censor.

He was accused of his Twitter files.

He was accused of saying those things, but

the press pushed back quite hard.

And I was one of them that said, you can't censor the press and you can't tell the press what to do.

This president has just issued a memo this week instructing the press what to do,

which was pretty amazing.

Okay, let me ask you a couple of questions.

The

Biden laptop and the FBI

is

any of that concerning to you?

And if not, why?

Nah, because what's more concerning to me, really, is trans rights.

Because I'm actually a mental health professional, and I work with people who are transgender every day.

And I got got to tell you what I really see.

No, no, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

You are the first.

You're the first seminar caller I think I've had.

So thank you for your call.

You're the first one that

seems to do this for a living.

And I won't have conversations with people who will not answer the question and stay on topic.

You know, and also, quite honestly,

I'm not wasting time with people who say men can get pregnant.

That's not true.

You don't live in the real world.

You don't understand basic science.

And so it's not reasonable to have a conversation with you.

And sort of behind the scenes, when we start, we were talking about the show this morning, that was what I thought we would get out of this.

I think we need to get those people in your life.

That's the first one.

That's the first one we've got.

That's the first one we have.

We have

really good, honest people who are just trying to make their way, and I can learn from those people.

Many of them still drive me insane, but they're very nice.

And they were very honest.

They were honest.

Searching for answers and viewing things honestly.

This was a

seminar call.

Okay, let me get to Jake in Minnesota.

Hello, Jake.

Hi.

How are you doing?

Very good.

How are things in Minnesota?

Well, I'm sitting sitting in the car in the rain right now.

I appreciate what you are doing.

This is my first time ever doing this.

It's kind of fun.

But I really do appreciate it.

I've listened to the other two callers, and

I love the civility.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So do I.

I wish we had more of it.

So, Jake.

Well, the country needs more of it.

Absolutely.

We need to challenge each other

with our

divergent thoughts

and understand

that neither side is evil or stupid,

and that most of us kind of fall, probably 80 to 90 percent of us would agree with most things.

Let me take you here.

You believe in the First Amendment, freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom.

100%.

100%.

Second Amendment?

It's nuanced.

Yeah, it is nuanced.

I don't,

understand

culturally the right to bear arms, the importance of that and everything.

I don't think we're a better country because we have 400-plus million guns in the country.

But that's fine.

I was just ticking off a few things.

I mean,

this is where the rubber meets the road.

You're not going to quarter.

You don't believe the government should quarter any soldiers into houses.

You believe in a fair jury trial.

You believe in, you know, you don't have to testify against yourself.

You can face your accuser.

All of that stuff, right?

Well, that's what makes the country beautiful.

Yes.

Thank you very much.

Now, let's talk about the things that you say you're a common sense liberal.

What?

You voted for Joe Biden?

Yep, yep.

I've typically voted Democrat my entire life.

Okay.

And are you going to vote for Joe Biden again if he's the candidate?

I would.

You know, I guess I would prefer someone younger

and

somebody who,

you know, I would vote for anybody whose number one concern was to reunite their country.

I would vote for a Republican who

who made his or her priority reuniting us, like getting us off of the hatred train.

I think that's

I think that's great, Jake.

And now let's talk about

some things that

if they concern you or not.

What part of Minnesota do you live in?

The Twin Cities area.

Okay.

So you saw some of the damage and the fires and everything else from the riots.

Yep.

Reimagining the police.

Is it time to say, okay,

maybe we shouldn't have done...

shouldn't have done that, but there is a problem in some police forces with individuals, but this was not a good idea.

And I think that most people, including even most liberals, would agree that police are necessary, that there needs to be some changes, there needs to be some greater

level of trust and acceptance

in communities and everything.

But 100%, I mean, I think most people are pro-police, recognizing that

certain certain things in police culture,

the George Floyd killing and stuff, I think that was

a result of certain

not being able to challenge, to truly challenge he or she who is in command and everything,

those cultural things I think could be, need to be addressed and everything.

Of course, I do think that there is a level,

there's a level of bias and prejudice

in policing that needs to be addressed, or at least in the

end.

I got it.

So now you said that you, I want to make sure I understood, that you felt that the riots on the street were because

it was a logical,

you know, if you don't address it, it goes into that if you feel unheard.

Is that what I heard you say?

Well,

I guess I would agree with that for the most part.

Yeah.

Okay.

So would you say that

I'm not a fan of rioting?

Yeah, neither am I.

You know, yeah.

Peaceful protesting and stuff like that.

Right.

You know,

but in so let me, so let me just, I just need to ask you two questions, and then

I want to talk to you some more.

You're a very reasonable guy.

With the

riots in the streets in Minneapolis and all over the country, most of those people did not go to jail or pay any price, and I think they should have.

The bad guys should go to jail.

The good guys that were there that were peaceful and were not trying to burn things down should not go to jail.

The same with January 6th.

The people that were breaking in, hitting police, et cetera, et cetera, bad guys and should go to jail.

Many of them were not that.

Would you do you recognize the difference in the way those two groups are being treated?

And is that right or wrong or or justified?

Yeah, I don't know

as much, certainly as much as those of you

who are in the business of following everything super closely.

I agree.

I think, once again, it's nuanced and stuff.

And you talk about peaceful protesting and I appreciate, you know, I've listened to the other callers and stuff, and

you're not playing gotcha or anything.

And I don't want to play gotcha.

If you could follow my line of thinking here, like if you take like the Colin Kaepernick thing, peaceful protest,

I believe that maybe if his peaceful protests were not so demonized

by,

and once again, I don't want to, I'm not blaming or anything like that.

But the right side,

if we acknowledge and appreciate forms of peaceful protest, the thing is, is that protest got so demonized, then it's like, well, I mean, I don't, I'm not,

I

know, I still think violence is wrong and everything,

but we kind of took away

a form of

should have been a respectable police, the peaceful protest.

Will you give the same benefit that all MAGA people or people who support Donald Trump or are on the right have been grossly demonized for the last

50 years.

I 100% agree with you, you know, to and to an ex for the most part and everything.

The demonization of rural, particularly white America is

tragic in so many different ways.

I mean, as a, as, you know, the Democratic Party should understand how they lost.

I mean, because you go back a few decades and those rural communities were frequently quite blue.

And, you know, that was very stupid.

Okay.

Very, very stupid.

So, Jake,

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I just love you.

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I'd like to continue with you.

Could you hold on for a few minutes?

I guess that answer is yes.

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hello sir hey thank you for having a decent conversation i i think this is really really healthy uh you know i'm gonna i'm gonna blow stuve ste's mind here um Most of my good friends lean liberal and

most of them kind of are on the same page at everything.

So

he would actually enjoy hanging out with most of my friends.

Good, good to hear.

I have to tell you.

And talking politics.

Yeah, I will tell you, I think I've talked to people all over the country.

I think when you get into, when you get out of the cities and you get into places where, you know,

it's not run by, you know, it's not Chicago, it's not New York, it's not L.A.

You find much more in common with Democrats than you would elsewhere.

And I think you probably feel that way with Republicans because we're not all fire-breathing, you know, got to be my way.

Hey, absolutely, yes.

Okay, so let me ask you,

I want to ask you a series of questions

just to see

where you are.

And they're kind of ethical questions.

But first, let me ask you, are you paying attention at all to the Hunter and Joe Biden laptop and bribery scandal that is now in impeachment investigation?

Yeah, I'm aware of it.

You're aware of it?

How closely?

And I've followed it.

So

I listened to you and other

conservative commentators and everything to kind of get an idea.

And then I've noticed, I have noticed that the medias that you criticize are also picking up on it more and everything.

And I would agree that they should have at least picked it up earlier than they did.

Okay.

So let me ask you where,

and not just necessarily you, but people that you know.

If Donald Trump breaks the law, and I said this at the beginning of his impeachment,

we were going to do an investigation, and I told my staff, I don't care whose side you're on.

If he broke the law, he should go to jail.

I believe that if you break the law, you go to jail, no matter if it hurts your side or not.

No, I would agree.

You would agree.

Okay.

So let me ask you, because there's a question on impeachment.

So let's just use this one as example.

If the president didn't take any money, his family, just his son,

was involved in business with these oligarchs in China, and it was just him in business.

And dad said,

I've never talked to his business partners.

I don't know anything about it.

And that turned out to be a lie.

Is that lie big enough to be impeached for?

Yeah, I guess theoretically.

I wasn't entirely on board with all the impeachments.

I knew that they wouldn't go anywhere.

It was all circus, right?

Right.

The whole, the whole, I mean, we are in just a

perpetual state of circushood.

Yes, we are.

So you think that doesn't rise?

Because you might be able to convince me if he lied about that and it was just about i'm not involved in his business

um

and and he lied about that there needs to be more than just the lie accountability yeah there needs to be some form of accountability and but it might not yeah but it might not be impeachable at that level

um as uh you know the the the trump stuff too like i you know i i i will um admit that i'm not a fan of the guy or anything uh but i you know i would have preferred it wasn't going to go anywhere.

We knew that it wasn't going to go anywhere, and therefore it shouldn't have taken the oxygen.

Okay.

Now, if the president, and I'm just using these, I am not saying that this is true.

I'm saying the evidence looks like this is where it's leading, but we've seen evidence before that ends up being nonsense.

Okay.

If the son uses the president's office or vice presidential office to enrich himself, but not his father,

but dad knew

that he was, you know, his son was working with oligarchs and Chinese companies and, you know, that was all, you know, bad stuff.

But dad was not involved, but he knew about it.

Is that impeachable?

You know,

I guess, you know, if it is proven.

No, no, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Proven.

I'm not saying that we take anybody's word for it.

I'm saying that you've got the goods.

You've got the documents.

But he'll be,

so it goes through, it's not going to go anywhere, just as it didn't with Trump.

I mean,

but I'm asking you,

hang on just a second.

I'm asking you if it should.

If it's true.

If it's proven to be true, I think that's the fair

thing.

Dad and family members profited and had a system where

they were funneling money from oligarchs and bad guys.

That should piss everybody off.

Okay.

So that is definitely.

How can anybody say no?

Like if that's if that's proven,

you know people exist around us that will say no.

I'm aware, yes.

And let me ask you, if

not the last one, but if if any of the others were true,

should it concern us that these things happened in China, Russia, Romania,

and Ukraine?

And we now know that the Ukrainian president

has an offshore account himself and is involved with one of the oligarchs from Burisma.

Should, forget about impeachment or anything else,

can we trust that this war and our money, et cetera, is on the up and up

with somebody who was involved, but if the president was involved in this stuff,

can we trust that this war is right?

Well, so the way that you are framing those questions, like if the answer is yes, like this corruption exists and everything, that should absolutely concern us.

And

at the same time, that alone,

yes, it should concern us.

At the same time,

I think that Russia needs to get out of Ukraine.

And to be honest, I mean, I'm certainly not an expert journalist and everything.

But the way that you framed your question, I mean, anybody, any reasonable person would say, if the answer is yes, then we need to be concerned.

Okay.

Let me ask you about

inflation.

Where is that coming?

What is causing this?

What happened?

So, well,

I mean, absolutely the pandemic and the lockdowns and the

supply chain issues and all of that sort of stuff.

And you would mean it could be

a problem.

Would you throw in, because I would, the

out-of-control spending from the republicans and under donald trump at the beginning

um well well yeah and any sort of out-of-control spending and stuff i mean i you know as a uh i i fully understand um

you know at least as a novice certain economic principles and everything and i say it's easy to understand if you don't have enough money coming in you know you shouldn't right you shouldn't be spending stuff that you can't afford yes

The DOJ corruption,

the

things that even happened with Hunter on the IRS and all of that, the way they are treating one group of people differently than the other.

Justice should be blind and non-political.

But right now, you know, the Supreme Court is politicized.

You know, the DOJ under different administrations.

I mean, you know, we are just

past the point of common sense, though, and all.

We are in the state of culture wars and whatnot where everything is politicized.

And

again,

I would vote for anybody who brings us back together.

Okay.

And depoliticizes our lives.

Like, you know, we,

you know, we're putting food on the table, paying our mortgages, like all of that sort of stuff.

And frankly, we deserve to enjoy being around the people that we're around.

I couldn't agree with you more.

I just don't know.

I don't know how we do that without

because the government is in our face because

it is affecting all of us by what they're doing.

And so I'm wondering,

can you depoliticize as a government is getting bigger and bigger in everyone's life?

I would say, you know, the right

person, group of people,

you know, there are people who are trying.

You know,

we have people, you know,

as a member of team

left,

I do my best to seek out other people kind of on my side who are critical of my side.

You know, and I think that that's

extremely important.

And I'm not afraid to engage with ideas that

challenge my ideas and everything.

We have to get to that point and get to the point where it's actually fun to have our ideas challenged.

Yeah.

Last question.

Joe Biden, his age.

It's not, to me, it's not a matter of age.

It's a matter of whether you're all there.

Does that bother you at all?

That's not going to stop you from voting for him.

Well,

the alternative is also

I would prefer to see somebody younger in there.

I don't,

you know,

Trump also says some pretty wackadoodle stuff and everything.

In all fairness, he said those things when he was 30.

So I don't know if you could blame that.

Well, am I just being

right?

I mean, we, we, and once again, I'm not playing playing gotcha, but you know, I know, I know.

Telling us that the revolution, you know, the revolutionary war heroes had airplanes and stuff.

I mean, like, no, I very well.

You know, we, we, we play all that stuff.

You know, your side plays that, my side plays the, or that you, you, you'll play the, the, the, um, gaffes that Biden makes.

Um, Jeff Meyers will play the gaffes that Trump might makes and everything.

Right, but hang on just a sec.

Hang on.

There is a difference between gaffes.

I mean, the

president has degraded mentally and physically a great deal.

He's not the same guy that was running for election.

He's just not.

And, you know, I think that that's fair.

I don't know.

You know, the way that

I don't think that that's a, it's not a concern

because,

you know, no president, no president should make decisions on his or her own.

You know, that president should be advised by people who know more than they do to begin with and everything.

Um, you know, I it's it's it's not the concern of mine that it is of yours.

Okay.

Um, would you give Joe Biden the keys to your car?

Um,

well, uh, I have uh kids learning to drive and everything.

He couldn't be worse than them.

Okay.

All right.

Uh Jake, it's been great talking to you.

Thank you so much.

It's been a lot of fun.

I really do appreciate it.

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No.

I'll look it up.

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Yeah,

we've done a few shows like that on television that have been really good, where, you know, we sit down and everybody's skeptical of each other, and then you start to talk.

And, you know, there are those that have such divergent you know

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but it's great it's great to talk thank you so much Jake super part

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You are.

Yes, although at the beginning,

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That's exactly what I was doing.

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Yeah.

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Are these things...

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He seemed like such an honest guy, but unless you make your decision on what matters beforehand,

you will just keep going because it's just going to keep changing all the time, like it did.

Joe Biden said, I had no idea what my son was doing.

I never talked to him about business.

I was not involved in that.

Well, now it shows that he was.

And all they did was change, yeah, but he didn't profit from it.

And if it shows any profit to his family, he'll say, you know, yeah, but it was no big deal.

I didn't, I didn't do that.

that, you know, I didn't, I didn't change policies because of it.

No,

stop moving the goalposts.

This either matters or it doesn't, because we have to know where our lines are with one another.

Okay.

If he just lied because he knew his son was in trouble,

okay, is that impeachable?

Well, I don't like it, but if he wasn't involved in any way, which we now know is not true, but if he was not involved in any way, okay, you you can make the case he was doing it for his son, but did he involve the DOJ?

Did he clear the path for his son with the IRS?

Yes.

So now you have to go, well,

is this cover-up?

Does it matter that he used our federal resources to cover up?

Okay, yeah, I think that's impeachable.

But even more so, if the son got rich and the family got rich, but you can't tie any of the money to Joe Biden, even though he met 25, at least 25 meetings,

is that impeachable?

You have to be able to say now,

dispassionately,

this is my line.

This is my line.

And we can have different lines, but I want to know you have a line.

If this is proven,

and that's another problem, because now we are like, well, what do you mean proven?

The blue dress?

I mean,

is it enough proof to have the

State Department, the Treasury,

and the White House all warning

the vice president, this looks really bad.

It looks like money laundering that your son is involved in.

You've got to stop this.

This looks really bad.

Well, we have that.

Then we have the bank accounts and the offshore, if we see the money that is in those things,

does that matter?

And what is it going to, what do you mean by proof?

If I have the goods, if I have the banking records

because we already have the what i think 150 what are called yellow flags uh from the treasury department that banks call in and say this is money laundering you should look into it we already have those for hunter biden

what is your line

And I only say this because you begin to change if you keep moving that line.

You change, and then you're all of a sudden saying, how the hell did I get here?

An additional question that I'd be interesting to hear from, I don't know, quote unquote, sensible liberals would be the idea of like, okay, let's say you can entertain the line where the corruption is proven to a point where you think this is a real problem.

Maybe he should be impeached.

But I'm curious as to what is the line that would actually make you change your vote, right?

Like, does it change?

You might say, okay, well, Joe Biden, I think, either should be impeached or he is guilty and I don't like him.

But at what point, is there more evidence in your mind that, you know, Donald Trump is bad or Ron DeSantis is bad that you wouldn't consider them?

Here's what I think I learned today, and it'll take me a while to really digest everything, but here's what I think I learned.

A lot of people do not have information, and I mean basic information, not right-left information, just a a basic understanding of how things work.

Okay.

And then on top of that, you have people who

are informed, but are locked into their position.

And

that was the seminar color that we had.

And then we have people who are really trying to do the right thing and listen to each other and listen to the other side.

But I'm not sure if they are,

if that would ever change their vote because,

this is the main point,

the alternative.

I have to vote for him because of the alternative.

And I think that's specifically a Trump thing with people.

Yeah, I think there's just that.

Look, obviously, Trump elicits a lot of passion on both sides.

Yeah, but they all will.

I mean, if anybody else is the frontrunner, DeSantis will be that way.

Ramaswamy will be that way.

Everybody will be called worse than Hitler.

That is true.

That is what they will be called.

I do think there's an inherent

high passions around Trump, right?

We all know that.

I mean, it's what he's built his career on.

Right.

Just like Cardi B.

She built her career on incredible lyrics and songwriting.

No, I'm not going to be.

Along with Megan the Stallion.

No, I'm not going to be.

I'm not going to be.

No, I'm not going to be roped into this.

No.

No, I believe you said I could pull the Cardi B rip chord at any point during this program.

Okay, would you rather hear.

Stop.

No, I'm not.

This is, you're cheapening this art.

Would you rather hear Senator Kennedy reading from a pornographic journey?

No, I do not.

I've seen this video only in video form where they describe what happened, and I do not want to hear it.

I think we should play a little bit of it.

No, I don't think we're going to be able to do it.

Let's take

two books

that have been much discussed.

The first one is called

All Boys Aren't Blue.

And I will quote from it.

I don't know that we need to hear his.

I put some lube on and got him on his knees.

No, I just

had enough.

Yes.

Then why do you want the Cardi B thing?

It's a great question, and I can't answer.

I really don't have an answer to that.

I really don't.

I don't know why.

Partially because I think think, like, part of the reason I can't listen to Senator Kennedy do that.

And, and look, I respect what he's doing here.

It's important that he's doing this.

However, it makes me cringe for him.

And I will then, when you're doing the Cardi B thing, I will cringe for you, but I want you to feel like I want bad things to happen.

Ladies and gentlemen,

Cardi B,

Megan the Stallion.

The lyrics from Bongo's

Bong, bong, bong, bong.

We good?

Bong, bong, bong, bong, like a drum.

Bong, bong, bong, bong.

This is fire.

Bong, bong, bong, bong, bong, bong.

N-word, eat this A

like a plum.

Plum.

This P-word tight like a nun.

Nun.

Better chew it up like it's gum.

Gum.

Then

you don't think that this is.

We saw that Senator Kennedy.

I mean

this is now this we were talking about this earlier.

Stop the music because I mean

we were talking about lyrics.

There is nothing in any song today that doesn't revolve

things that go inside of you.

That's really the only option of celebrating.

There used to be love songs.

Love songs, medical songs, and all the nothing things.

Now it's just

how does anyone listen to this and think this is good?

Well, we don't even know what happens in the song.

How would we be able to answer that question?

Well,

that ain't your N-word.

He is both ours.

Why are they saying N-word so much still?

I don't.

P-word tight like a nun, counting hundreds up with my thumb.

Thumb.

I don't care where you're from, from

Better beat this S like a drum.

Okur.

Don't be talking S like you know me.

Woo!

I ride D like a pony.

Girl, that N-word look like a brokey.

Real hot girl S.

Go and F with his homie.

he's a a

that's all I did ladies and gentlemen

the lyrical stylings of Cardi B

and Mega the

stallion Megan Megan Megan Megan

Megan the stallion she is

wow

that's you know what I don't think our culture's gone downhill I mean, not at all.

Not at all.

It's well written.

I mean, look, you might not like the music, but you can tell that is a lyrical masterpiece.

I think you can tell me.

At this point, I am rooting for AI to take over.

Rebecca writes in a.

AI legitimately would not allow you to come up with those lyrics because they would say there's all sorts of racial slurs throughout it.

At the very least, they would stop you at that.

Oh, now you've challenged me.

You think you can get...

I think I could get.

No way.

I think I.

No way.

Okay.

You cannot get AI to

produce

something like that with those words in it.

Those are naughty words.

I believe I've been challenged.

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Oh, come on.

I could not do it.

So I was just telling Stu, you know, what are you doing this weekend?

And

I recommended,

now you got to remember i'm a little different uh i did go to hobby lobby yesterday with my daughter uh because she wanted to paint and we needed some more canvas so i went to hobby lobby and uh

i might have bought some very nice christmas wrapping that they happen to have and i knew they wouldn't have it closer to christmas and i knew my wife would want that christmas packing so i bought it

so when you look at my tv selection

may not be you know for you.

Right.

It is not for you.

In fact, you decided to try to tell me I should watch this show.

Yeah, Lydia.

Which is called Lydia Law According to Lydia Poet.

So good.

And so I, you know, it's a challenge.

It's on Netflix.

Yeah.

It's tall.

So you're literally breaking every rule of my television watching.

Well, I will say.

Number one

subtitles.

No, no, no.

That was not the number one thing.

The first thing he said was, I can't watch this movie.

And I said, why?

And he said, fancy hats.

Yeah.

They're wearing wearing hats.

You fancy hats, I'm out, right?

Like,

look, it's just not something I'm going to consider.

It's just one.

If you are.

It's a non-starter.

It is one.

I mean, this is like every frame is so beautiful.

The story is great.

It's great.

It's a true story about the first woman who was an attorney and what she had to go through in Italy.

It's amazing.

It's amazing.

But it is, it's just beautiful.

It's beautiful.

Really well done.

And a lot of the beauty comes from the fancy hats.

Okay, so let me give you this.

Let me go the opposite way.

Yellowstone premieres Sunday.

Is it the hat thing again?

Well, I have a really serious line on time periods.

This one's current.

But it looks like it's all.

It's not.

It's current.

I know.

It's current.

People keep telling me that, but then I see the pictures and they're like, outside.

What do you mean it's current?

This, I'm telling you, if you haven't watched Yellowstone, you're missing it.

It is the best female villain of all time.

Beth Dutton is, I've heard that, expertly played, and she is

the best villain of all time.

Does she wear fancy hats?

No, she does not.

That's good.

Maybe I'll watch it then.

I will not watch the Law According to Lydia Poet.

I didn't think you would be the one to watch it.

Okay, good.

Good.

I'm glad you have some respect for me still after all these years.

Have a great weekend.

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