Will Biden RESIGN Before Impeachment Inquiry Gets Serious? | Guests: Gov. Greg Abbott & Max Lucado | 9/12/23

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Texas Governor Greg Abbott joins to discuss Biden’s worsening border crisis and New York City’s mayor breaking down after receiving a fraction of the illegal immigrants Texas deals with daily. Glenn and Stu discuss the manhunt under way for Danelo Cavalcante and the amount of warfare America is sending to Ukraine. Glenn and Stu discuss the Left’s odd obsession with Tim Scott’s relationship status. Glenn and Stu go through the not-safe-for-work hobbies of a Democrat running for Virginia state office. Texas Scorecard managing editor Brandon Waltens joins to discuss the impeachment trial of Texas AG Ken Paxton and the apparent lack of evidence against him. Max Lucado, author of “God Never Gives Up on You,” discusses the importance of Jacob’s story and what it teaches us about God’s grace. Glenn and Stu discuss the breaking news that an impeachment inquiry into President Biden will commence as Glenn predicts how this will end.
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It's Tuesday, and we go to New York, where the New York PD ordered to slash overtime spending now to cover the cost of the migrant crisis.

Huh?

Well, that's interesting.

They apparently are collapsing with about 100,000 illegals coming to Manhattan.

Now,

that's what they've received.

They've gotten about 10,000 of those on a bus from Texas, thanks to our governor, Greg Abbott.

Greg Abbott has sent the 10,000 in, and that is enough to collapse New York, apparently.

But the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands here in Texas, nobody seems to care about.

Well, there's some controversy going on because now the government is saying that they might pass a rule that if you come in and cross in Texas, you got to stay in Texas.

Hmm.

Governor Greg Abbott is with us now from the great state of Texas.

I have to tell you, Governor, bussing people from New York City,

I loved it from the get-go, but I didn't think it would do much other than like a stunt, kind of like it ended up with

Governor DeSantis in Florida with Martha's Vineyard.

It felt good for a day, but didn't change anything.

This is the biggest game-changing border policy I have ever seen in almost 50 years of broadcast.

Thank you.

Well, of course.

And it's not just what's going on with Mayor Adams in New York.

Look at Lori Lightfoot in Chicago.

Look at what's going on with Karen Bass out in Los Angeles.

Listen, they're all reacting the same thing or the same way.

They are all sanctuary cities.

They've all told the world, you know, we want your tired, you're poor,

you're illegal immigrants.

And we want them here.

We're going to provide food and lodging for them.

And then when they actually have to live up to these liberal promises they made, they collapse like a cheap tent.

Let me tell you something.

There's no way that the mayor of New York would be able to last a week in the state of Texas dealing with what we have to deal with.

It's shameful the way they act.

It's crazy the kinds of things they say, but it is time for America to have to share this burden that Texas has had to deal with.

How many do we have here in Texas now?

I mean, I know he can't handle the 10,000 from Texas.

There are towns in Texas that are getting at least 10,000, you know, a day or a week.

How many are actually here in Texas?

Well, first, I'll tell you that the catalyst for this busing operation actually wasn't to try to put burdens on New York.

It was actually to try to help out those small communities on the border, the Del Rios, the Eagle Passes, the communities that the Border Patrol were dropping these illegal immigrants off.

And we said there's no way that we're going to be able to deal with this.

And so we began to put them on buses, initially going to Washington, D.C., and eventually New York, et cetera.

But my point is that these illegal immigrants do not stay in Texas very long at all.

A day, maybe two days, and then they are put on buses and bused out to other areas across the country.

That's what Texas is doing.

In addition to what Texas is doing, in far greater numbers, the Biden administration is doing the exact same thing.

So my point, Glenn, is that they're actually not staying in Texas very long at all.

So the Biden administration, how many are being shipped out from this just one border state to go elsewhere?

I can give you percentages.

I don't have the precise number.

The percentages would be, you know, in the 90% range, 95% range.

Oh my gosh.

There's not very many that are staying in Texas.

And that is what is leading to the extraordinary volume that New York is dealing with, that Massachusetts is dealing with, that Illinois and Chicago are dealing with, that California is dealing with, et cetera.

So the Biden administration last week said that they were considering making sure that if you cross into Texas, you have to stay in Texas.

If they did that, I mean, it feels like they're specifically, the federal government is specifically targeting Texas.

Is that payback for what you and Paxton have put them through in the Supreme Court?

Is that to change us blue?

Is it to break our backs financially?

Why this seeming vendetta against Texas?

Part of it, Glenn, does seem to be payback.

And it's not just because of the busing operations.

It's because what Texas has done, uh we have taken over operational control of the border and actually repelled or pushed back into mexico people who were trying to cross illegally uh we have been on federal land where we built uh these constantina razor wire barriers it was the the national guard that did it they build the barriers and the net the national guard guards it and they force illegal immigrants to go back to mexico this is the only time in american history when anything like that that has happened.

And then of course you probably know about the

buoy we put in the water and the marine barrier and and the Biden administration considers all of that to be evil when all Texas is really doing is protecting our own border.

So my point in telling you that is yes,

the Biden administration has a vendetta against the state of Texas.

But let me put it this way.

The president is right in thinking that these migrants have to stay somewhere as opposed to going all across the country.

He just got the location wrong.

They shouldn't be staying in Texas.

They should remain in Mexico.

Remember, it was when President Trump put the remain in Mexico policy into effect, that is what led to the immediate drop in the number of people coming across the border.

And under President Trump, we had the lowest illegal immigration in 40 years.

And now, under Biden's open border policies, we have the highest illegal immigration ever.

And

let me add one last thing, Glenn, and that is

this concept of trying to

have illegal immigrants remain in Texas or remain in California, whatever the case may be, that was tried before decades ago, and it was rejected by the courts at the time.

This is a losing legal proposition for Biden, and we'll just hand him another loss if he tries this crazy game.

So the buoys,

what is the status on that?

And if they start doing some of these things,

what is Texas going to do to remain a sovereign state?

Several things.

First, with regard to the buoys,

as

you and your audience may have heard, it went to

well, first of all, I need to tell you this.

The buoys were a concept that were first developed by the Border Patrol itself.

And we got the idea from them, and we checked it out.

We found it to be effective, and so we deployed it.

And as the Border Patrol itself put out, there's nobody getting across it.

The great thing about the buoys is it allows us to build a border wall or border barrier at one-tenth the cost of the border wall that Texas is actually putting up.

And so it is a very effective tool.

Secondly, with regard to the Biden's attempt to force us to remove the buoy barriers

that we lost in the trial court, which we knew we were going to do,

but we in less than 24 hours got a stay of that lower court ruling by the federal court of appeals.

And as we are chatting right now, the buoys are exactly where they have been ever since we put them back up.

And

we hope and believe that we will prevail.

And the federal court of appeals, appeals.

There are multiple legal reasons why what the Biden administration is contending is absolutely wrong.

So we will continue to do that.

But let me add this, because you said, what are we going to do?

We are, as we are speaking right now, there is more border wall going up, which is the same border wall that Trump was putting up.

But better than that,

the tool that proved to be the most effective is having the National Guard on the border, building these Constantina razor wire border walls that prevents illegal immigrants from getting across.

And we repel them,

we return them back to Mexico.

That has proven extraordinarily effective, and the only time in American history that I'm aware of where a state has actually repelled people who are trying to enter the country illegally and sent them back to the country they came from.

Why do you, I mean, you must have spent spent a lot of time trying to figure out

why would the administration do this?

It clearly is not good for America.

It's not good for the states.

It's not good for the cities.

We don't know who's coming in.

People are coming from all over the world, including countries that have no love for America.

Have you come up with a reason on why you think they're doing this, why Biden is doing this?

So one thing you mentioned about some of the people coming across the border who have no love for America.

So we apprehend Chinese and Russians and people from hostile nations all the time.

In fact, Glenn,

under Joe Biden, there is a record number of people coming across the border who are on the terrorist watch list.

Correct.

And those are the ones that we apprehended.

They pay more to try to evade being caught.

Why is Biden doing this?

First, when he campaigned for president, he said that he was going to have open border policies.

And I think Americans really just didn't listen to him, maybe didn't know what he was talking about.

And now they're seeing the reality.

This is the Ocasio-Cortez game plan.

And so here's what you and I don't know, and that is who is running the White House?

Is it Ocasio-Cortez leftists?

Is it somebody else?

It seems like Biden may not really know what he's doing.

But if he does,

it's the most unpatriotic act any president has ever taken in the history of the United States of America.

So we've got several tasks ahead of us.

One is

Texas is using more than $10 billion of our own state funds to secure the border, and we will continue to do so as we work our way through this presidential election.

And we have to put a president in place who's going to have, as job one,

to uphold their oath, fulfill the constitutional mandate that they secure the border and

maintain national security so that we don't lose our country.

And so I think Biden's days are numbered.

And in those waning days, Texas will continue to step up and deploy every tool that we can possibly use that are unprecedented in nature to make sure we're going to be holding back and staunching the flow of illegal immigrants into the country.

I'm very concerned about this next election.

Are we safe?

Is the vote safe here?

Have we done anything to strengthen the security of the vote?

Absolutely.

Yeah.

In Texas, for two separate sessions or two successive sessions, legislative sessions,

we have passed the strongest election integrity laws in the United States of America.

As a reminder, before I was governor, I was the Attorney General, and I filed legal action after legal action, cracking down on voter fraud and putting people behind bars for it.

And we continue to send that message.

Separate from that, however, with regard to the election process itself,

we have put reforms in place to make sure we have security.

And let's go back to what happened just this past election.

This past election, for your audience, those who don't know, we have 254 counties in the state of Texas.

And all, let's say, 253 of the 254 were able to get their votes counted on election night the way they were supposed to.

The only one that was unable to do so, even in days, was Harris County.

Harris County is where Houston, Texas is.

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that cracked down on the way that the city of Houston and Harris County were not following the law as we had prescribed with regard to fair and accurate elections,

making sure that the election process in Harris County was going to be even more secure.

Governor, I know you have to run.

Thank you so much.

Really appreciate it.

Thank you for bussing those people in.

Again, you have completely changed the narrative.

It is the only thing I have seen in my entire broadcasting career.

that has changed this narrative.

It's a different game today because of you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Glenn.

Take care.

Bye-bye.

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Hey, Glenn.

How are you?

Good.

Good.

It was an interesting interesting interview with Greg Abbott.

You've had some ups and downs on looking at his leadership over the years.

And

I think that's the way Texas feels about it.

It's interesting because we do a national show every day.

We live in Texas.

And when you talk to people around the country, they long for someone like Greg Abbott to be their governor.

And then people in Texas, at times, I think it's 50-50.

Like sometimes they love him, sometimes they don't love him so much.

Yeah, I mean, it's Texas.

So, I mean, you know, Greg Abbott would be a great governor in every other state in the union, but it's Texas.

And so you're like,

how come your boot isn't up somebody's butt right now about whatever, fill in the blank.

And, you know, so sometimes he uses the boot, sometimes he doesn't.

He's, you know,

he is a

an attorney general.

He's an attorney by nature.

So attorneys tend to be much much more methodical.

Yeah, I think that's that's kind of the they want someone who's a little bit more at times

bombastic about stuff and that's not the way he operates.

But what I will say, it's really hard to deny his success in this in this arena.

I mean this policy of shipping people up to these cities has been

almost mesmerizing to the debate, the way it's changed things.

I mean, and that has all happened because every Democrat in these cities has just echoed every complaint Republicans have been making about illegal immigration for the past 50 years.

They're all just, they're all getting hit in the face for the first time with this issue in a real way and having to deal with it in a real way.

And they, of course, recognize the truth.

I mean, they're now actually saying, maybe, maybe we should change, maybe we should change the sanctuary city.

I mean, just for now, just for now.

Oh, you mean so

when it's not opposed?

Right, exactly.

When you, when people aren't being busted into your communities, you can all say, oh, open arms.

Look at those darn people from the South that are so mean and racist.

And that's what's been interesting about the Democratic position on this for so long.

They use the racism accusation as this warm blanket to sort of shield them in this little cocoon, this comfy cocoon on the couch, where they can all say, well, the reason this is a problem is because Republicans are racist.

They don't like people who look that way.

Right.

By the way,

we are going to put those billboards up on the border.

Oh, yeah?

Yeah, Yeah, you and I will put those billboards up.

And

I want them in Spanish, though.

That, you know, just say, hey, here are your list of San Francisco.

Miniplis.

Go, because they're promising these things.

San Francisco, make sure you see sunny San Francisco because they'll give you these things.

I love it.

And it would be good information for these people.

They tell us they want to take care of them so much.

We want to help them.

We want to help them.

We're helpers.

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So there's a big manhunt for Daniello Cavalante.

He is a convicted murderer.

He has a rifle now.

And you're not, you know, it's a big, big, big, big manhunt.

Now, Mr.

Very dangerous.

Dangerous.

Very dangerous.

Mr.

Cavalante.

Yes.

Is he from Wichita?

Where's he from?

Where's he from?

I think he's from Albuquerque.

You think he's from Albuquerque?

That may be why they have been banning all the guns there.

Right.

Okay.

So is he there?

Is that where he was born?

Oh, I assume.

Yeah.

I assume.

Because I don't know much about his childhood, where he grew up.

It could be maybe Little Italy, you know, here.

Yeah.

And it sounds a little Italian, his name, his last name.

Actually, I think he's Hispanic.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Oh, that's right.

This is the guy who was in Brazil and murdered someone in Brazil.

Oh, and then fled and then came across the border.

And then when he crossed the border, he murdered another person

and then went to prison and then crab walked up

the wall, which incredible video.

I mean, it really is incredible.

I've realized I don't have enough core strength watching it.

And then he gets up and he escapes.

And now the new update is he's just roaming around Pennsylvania.

Apparently it was spotted yesterday.

And the good news, he is now armed.

Yep, like you said, good news.

And the police are coming out and saying, do not, don't do anything, because then you could be in trouble too.

You could also be dead,

but don't do anything.

So don't

protect yourself.

Don't go out and look for him or anything else.

And that's the last thing I would do.

I hear things in the bushes on my property.

I'm not going out to look.

Oh, no.

I'm not.

We didn't respect his.

I like illegal immigrants, okay?

He just came here for a better life.

What about a sanctuary

state?

Why isn't Pennsylvania a sanctuary?

If we find him, we should send him to New York City.

Okay.

Yeah.

Or Martha's Vineyard.

We should send him.

We should give him a sanctuary prison cell.

Yeah.

Where he's able to come and go within the

four to eight feet that he has there.

Let me ask back and forth as much as he wants.

Let me ask you.

Let me ask you.

Now change the subject.

But

have you ever had the feeling

that the Biden administration

intentionally does really bad things

on September 11th?

I'm just hear me out.

Remember, okay, Afghanistan.

September 11th.

Okay.

Yesterday,

they approved the transfer of $6 billion of frozen funds to the government of Iran in a prisoner swap deal.

Now, they did this deal last week, but they announced it yesterday.

Hmm.

And I'm thinking, why would you announce that you're giving $6 billion to a terrorist state on 9-11?

Now, I know the governor or the government of Iran might think that's a wonderful day to announce that.

Right, but not necessarily us.

Right, you'd think we'd have the opposite opinion on that particular topic, but

no, we had the same isn't that weird?

It is a bit, it's a bit weird.

Yeah, it's a bit troubling.

Oh, by the way,

the reason why Biden had to go to Vietnam,

which, I mean, he didn't explain that.

He didn't explain that.

He just explained yesterday why he wasn't at the 9-11 commemorative ceremonies because 20 years after Pearl Harbor, presidents weren't still showing up.

I got news for you.

I don't think President Roosevelt ever showed up.

Okay.

Don't think that happened.

Don't think that happened.

May have once, maybe, maybe.

But, you know, here's the difference.

Hawaii, especially back then,

really

far away.

New York, car ride.

Okay.

So, yeah.

Yeah.

Well, it's not a car ride from India.

No.

So it's not.

You know, if I again,

scheduling conflicts.

The only thing we, he had to be out of the country on 9-11 and also had to give $6 billion

announced on 9-11 to Iran.

Yeah.

That's it.

Look, everyone has scheduling conflicts.

Right.

Sometimes.

This one's just very unfortunate.

Both were.

Right.

Really.

Sometimes you have a doctor's appointment at the same time your kids' Little League game's going on.

And it's the same thing going on right now.

The State Department was like, oh, crap, is it September 11th?

Yeah.

I shouldn't be announcing to the world and to Congress that we're giving $6 billion in a prisoner swap to

Iran.

Gosh darn it.

And as we covered yesterday, he needed to go to bed.

Yes.

You know, in the middle of a speech, he just needed to go to bed.

Those two things conflicted.

Now he got a good nap in.

He got a good nap in.

And he yesterday threatened to veto the House's Department of Defense Appropriations bill.

He said

the administration strongly, strongly opposes the bill, and he will veto it.

If it passes in the Senate, he's going to veto it right away, right away, which will mean a government shutdown.

But, you know, he's got a really good reason for doing it.

He said, you know, this bill has devastating consequences, including harming access to reproductive health care.

And this bill will threaten the lives and the health and safety of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and intersex Americans.

It also, this defense bill, will endanger marriage equality, hinder critical climate change initiatives, and prevent the administration from promoting diversity, equity, and inclusion.

All of those things, especially in the last part of that paragraph, I think are good.

The rest of them, I don't think the Defense Department should be in that business.

Maybe it's just me.

Now,

I just want you to understand what he's doing.

He is

claiming that because we won't allow the government to fly a soldier to another state to get an abortion on your tax dollar, plus pay for the abortion.

We're way past, no tax dollars will ever go to pay for an abortion.

We're way past that.

Now we're like,

are we also going to give them the room and board?

Are we going to fly them on a plane to get their abortion, put them up, let's send them them to a nice dinner and have a nice breakfast, maybe a couple of days off, you know, go see the world, then come back and do your.

Is that what we're doing now?

That's what he is angry about.

And so he's going to veto that.

But and this, this is going to affect intersex Americans, you said.

Intersex.

I'm going to make sure I understand.

Intersex.

That's important.

That's a huge difference.

Don't pretend you don't know what intersex is.

Oh, I mean, I, of course, I

mean, I may.

All right.

The Biden administration is also close to approving, now listen to this sentence, the shipment of longer-range missiles packed with cluster bombs to Ukraine,

giving Kyiv the ability to cause significant damage deeper within Russia-occupied territory.

Now, some might say, even in Russia.

So, you know, those, remember when we did the cluster munitions and everybody's everybody's like, that's that, you know, that's against, you know, the

treaty of, you know, whatever.

Right.

Remember how we did that?

I remember that whole conversation about the treaty of whatever.

Whatever.

Yeah.

And I was like, we can't use them unless we really have to.

And that's what the world says.

But we really have to use them now on Russia.

But not us, not us.

It's going to be the Ukrainians.

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And I don't think Russia's going to have a problem with it.

And if we can just send them those longer range missiles and Russia,

you know, if they have a problem with it, I say we sit down with Vladimir Putin and say, look, we are dealing with

intersectional relationships right now and trying to hold our Pentagon and our fighting force together.

Meanwhile, we're already under attack from these extremists that won't pay for a woman's flight and her hotel and probably breakfast and dinner and any kind of expenses she might have and the abortion.

Okay, so Vlad, don't start with us.

I think that's going to go over well.

I don't see why it wouldn't.

You know, this has been handled so beautifully from the very beginning.

It's going so well.

What could possibly go wrong?

Well, well, well, well, may I?

Oh, no.

Okay.

You have something?

Yeah, about 41,000 military personnel, 500 to 700 air combat missions, and more than 50 ships are going to

do a little exercise there, NATO exercise, you know, right, you know, right, right there.

Germany, Poland, what's across the, what is it across the border from Poland?

I'm trying to, I'm trying to think.

I can't think.

If you go east of Poland or Germany, I'm trying to think what's on the eastern side.

I can't think of what's there, but we're going to be doing the largest military exercise since the Cold War

after we send them the longer-range cluster bomb missiles,

but we've got the money and the time to do this military exercise right in Vlad's face.

But I don't know if we're going to be able to do it because we might have to shut the whole government down because

you're not going to believe this.

We won't.

Poland borders Ukraine.

What?

Yeah, Poland.

I'm looking it up right now.

They're borders.

They're up.

Yeah.

What about Germany?

Germany.

Germany.

How do you spell spell that?

J-E-R-M.

Yeah,

I don't think that one's listed on the map.

Yeah.

But still, it seems like everything's going to be fine.

Yeah.

That's what you should always remember.

Just, you know what?

Here's the easy thing.

These are hard issues to deal with, right?

Lots of nuance, lots of discussion, lots of expertise needed.

Just trust Joe Biden.

Yeah.

You know, he's there.

He's doing the job.

He's asleep three to four hours a day,

awake three to four hours a day.

Just trust his judgment and everything should turn out fine.

So you remember in 1983 when Ronald Reagan's going to get us into a war.

He's going to kill all of us because he gave the evil empire speech.

Yeah.

Okay.

You know,

where, where at the time it was our doctrine to stand against, but now it's just Joe Biden going, we're going to overthrow him, Vladdy, Vlad, Vlad.

He's a bad Vladdy.

And so,

but that's not starting a war with Russia.

It was just evil Ronald Reagan.

Then he announced his strategic defense initiative, which caused Ted Kennedy to fly over to Russia and say, by the way, we don't even have that.

Okay.

We don't want you to get upset.

We don't even have that.

And because everybody was freaking out, because we're going to go to war with the Soviets.

And then the Soviets shot down the Korean airliner.

And everyone's like, we're close to war.

And I remember that because I was there in Washington, D.C.

I was about 18 years old.

And I'm like, I think I'm going to be vaporized.

I'm living in the wrong city.

Anyway,

back in 1983, we decided to do one of these exercises with NATO.

And

it was 16,000 U.S.

troops involved.

So a little smaller, little smaller than this one that's coming up.

And then we loaded up our B-52 bombers and we, you know, we had dummy bombs in there.

And then we had our Strategic Air Command raising the nuclear alert to DEF CON 1.

Now, we said that this was just an exercise.

But, you know, when they started picking up the massive troop movements and the B-52s and everything else, they were like, I think this could be a head fake.

I think they may be attacking us.

And so the Soviets ordered everything in Eastern Europe to make preparations for immediate use of nuclear weapons.

And real bombs, real nuclear weapons were boarded onto the Soviet planes.

And

they ordered all the nuclear-armed submarines into the Arctic.

And

it was great.

It was great.

It was great.

It was great.

We were on the verge of nuclear war because of that exercise.

But nobody seems to care because global warming, of course, you know, one and a half degrees Celsius rise, that is going to destroy everything.

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So apparently Tim Tim Scott is gay now.

Is that where we're at in this race?

Tim Scott is gay.

I don't know.

I think that's what everybody's alluding to here.

That does seem to be what the media is saying, or at least alluding to.

Yeah.

They're hinting toward it, not saying it outwardly, because that would, of course, be,

I think, against woke policies to out someone, right?

I mean, you're not saying that.

I don't know.

I think you...

Well, no, you have to play ball by whatever the rule is for them that day.

That day.

So what's today's rule?

Because, I mean, I...

Well, on Tim Scott, it could be a different rule for different people on different days.

Yeah, okay, for sure.

Okay.

So

like today might be a really bad day to out somebody,

you know, from the left, but it's the responsible thing to do on the right.

Now, of course, Tim Scott says this isn't true.

Yeah.

He has a relationship with a woman.

Yeah.

But they went in farther than that.

I think the Washington Post was...

He may not know what a woman is.

That may be the problem.

I mean, do people really know how you can identify a woman?

What do you know?

I mean, maybe he doesn't know how to identify.

Supreme Court justice can't identify a woman.

Do we expect expect a senator to do it?

It's just very difficult.

I believe it was the Washington Post that investigated this, Glenn.

Oh, investigated it.

Because they found out he said he had a relationship with a woman.

And so they asked six of his friends.

Six friends.

Do you know about this woman?

And they said no.

So therefore, he's, I guess, gay and we're supposed to.

supposed to care about that now.

I thought we weren't supposed to care about it.

No, now we're supposed to care about it.

It was, what difference does it make to you?

And I kind of adopted that, you know, like my whole life.

What difference does it make

to me?

I don't care.

Don't really want to

care about where you put your stuff.

Don't want to know it.

Do what you do.

Nope.

Nope.

But now it's now

it's very important

because

if you are,

I'm not going to use their word.

You know, if you're straight, if you're heterosexual,

That's not good enough.

That's a bad thing.

So we have to know who the bad guys are.

But even though he's black and not married, I mean,

well, it won't be a big deal.

If it turns out that he's gay, here's why.

Because he won't be the first, he'll be the second black gay president.

Oh.

That's what you just did there was allude to someone being gay, which is wrong.

Wrong.

Wait a minute.

You don't know the rules.

The rules clearly state you cannot allude to Barack Obama having these tendencies.

But Tim Scott, totally okay.

Okay, I'm sorry, didn't get the rules.

Unreal.

I'm sorry.

Oh, man.

Now, if Tim Scott is to come out and let's say he's critical of Donald Trump publicly,

then it would become wrong for you to say

he might be gay.

Right.

But if he continues where he is now, which is running for the Republican nomination, he's definitely gay.

He's definitely gay and we better point it out because that's a real problem for everybody.

But if he steps out of the race,

then it will be wrong to point that out until he proposes a tax cut at which time it will become right again.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

I got it.

Finally.

I got it.

Anyway, he's got a, he says, at this point, I'm taken.

I have a wonderful girlfriend.

We have a wonderful relationship.

God's blessed me with a smart Christian woman, and that's great news,

he said.

So then,

you know, Fox News, they push him on this.

They were pushing on it.

Well, are we going to meet her?

Well, like, I mean, I suppose at some point, I mean, that's weird.

I mean, we're not friends.

You realize that, right?

Like, we're not friends.

And we're not really friends with everybody in the audience.

There could be anybody watching this right now.

So why would I introduce you to my girlfriend?

And by the way, she is so thrilled to be introduced.

He or she really has got to be very excited to be introduced, you know,

who a public, a private figure who's never really been in public that we know of,

to be introduced as somebody's girlfriend who will immediately, if she is introduced,

she'll be called a beard.

And then she'll be investigated and that'll be fine.

That's fine to be.

She's so excited.

Because, you know, the whole Me Too thing does not apply to her.

You can investigate her private life however you want to.

Yeah.

And question everything about her.

Sure.

That's totally fine.

Totally fine.

Now, let me talk to you a little bit about what's happening in Virginia.

Virginia apparently is the test case for

the next presidential election.

Yunkin is pushing for the GOP takeover.

And it's happening, I think, in eight weeks, is it not?

And Virginia.

is a state where everybody's just up for everybody's up for election.

Well, sort of replace everybody.

I kind of like that.

Kind of like that.

Yeah, well, I like the first part of it.

Everybody's gone.

Second part, let's replace them.

I'm not sure about it.

Okay, we should debate that.

But

so everybody's up for reelection now.

And

Glenn Young says that this is going to give us a really early read on the politics of 2024

and, you know, especially abortion.

And

he is taking this very, very, very moderate

look at abortion.

He's saying, I don't know, I mean, maybe we could agree on 15 weeks,

you know?

And that, of course, is too much, too much for the Democrats.

Democrats are saying, they're making that into an issue

that,

you know, it's 15 weeks.

What?

What?

It should be an issue.

It should be.

I mean, that's a major issue.

If you're doing that, you know, 15 weeks, you are eliminating like

5% of abortions, you know, something like that.

And like, that's a lot.

No, you'd only, we'd only have like 95% of abortions still occurring.

So this is an extreme right-wing position

that 95% of abortions just keep chugging along all the time.

Wow.

You know, and then, of course, obviously you have to also account, I should add on, that a couple of the people that are near the borderline there, because they know the deadline is coming.

And deadline's kind of a good word here.

here.

They would move those abortions up before 15 weeks.

So it's probably more like 3% it would ban.

But three full percent.

Now, that, look, that's where that's, I mean, that's an extremist.

That's an extremist view.

Right.

That's an extremist.

As an abortion extremist, I would be happy that 3% went away.

I think any percentage going away would be good.

Sure, sure, sure.

But maybe that shouldn't be the goal of the pro-life party.

I don't know.

It's just hitting me right now.

Maybe the goal shouldn't be

just keep 97% of abortions.

It's a crazy one.

I don't know.

It is crazy.

It is crazy.

I just want, before we get to your crazy idea we shouldn't kill children, I'm saying that he's such an extremist, he'll let through,

you know, 97% of abortions.

Wow, that's extreme.

That makes me almost uncomfortable.

It is so extreme, right?

I mean, who could be for that?

And so, you know, you have the Democratic Party, you know, coming out and saying, hey, we, you know, we got to stop these madmen

from

these abortion things.

Now,

the abortion stance is very, very clear from the left.

In fact, Kamala Harris was on

Sunday morning on CBS, and the reporter asked, so what is it you believe?

What week of pregnancy should abortion access be cut off?

And she said, the protection of Roe versus Wade needs to be restored.

Okay.

All right.

Well, that's not really an answer.

So hopefully they followed up.

No, they did follow up.

They did follow up and said that's a little nebulous there.

Looking for the line of fetal viability here.

Is that where you draw the line?

What exactly is that?

Because that's what Roe versus Wade called for, right?

It was the

fetal viability.

Yeah, yeah.

And she said, well, we just need to put back the protections that are in Roe versus Wade.

We need to put them into law.

She might not have heard the question though, because that was the next time.

Well, that was the second time.

That was the second time.

Okay.

Yeah.

And she said, since the Supreme Court took it, Congress has the power and the ability to pass legislation and put these protections back into law.

And Joe Biden's going to sign that bill.

So that's what we want.

Well, that's an interesting additional piece of information.

But what about the question she asked?

Well, that's what the reporter came back and said.

But can we be specific in terms of defining where that guarantee goes up to and where it doesn't, which week of pregnancy?

And

then she got very, very clear.

And she said,

we

need

to put back in place

the protections of Roe versus Wade.

Okay, that's the same thing she said the first time, though, that was asked, and the second and the third.

This was, are you just repeating her first answer?

You are just as bad as this.

Did she say it slower like that?

Is that why?

Just as bad, just as bad as this reporter.

He had to ask her five times, and she kept saying, we

have to restore Roe versus Wade.

And the president and I will, you know, we'll sign that.

That's what we're for.

Why are they so embarrassed about this position?

I don't know.

Could it be that they're embarrassed by rooting on the deaths of children?

Could it be that?

I think

probably that might be.

You know, it's usually, you know, me growing up, but I grew up someplace weird.

I grew up in a place called America.

Okay.

And, you know, kids, I don't even know if you study this, but it was a place that was based on, you know, basic decency and common sense.

Okay.

I know.

It's like Disneyland.

I know.

Well, no, not really.

Not anymore.

Not anymore.

Anyway, so I grew up there and killing children was a bad thing.

Shockingly, not just killing them, but sleeping with them.

You know, I don't mean sleeping.

I mean having sex with them.

Both bad.

Both bad in the America where I grew up.

I grew up.

Now I remember those are

gaming.

We used to walk up the mountains to go to school.

And we went to school and they didn't even teach us that you can't tell the difference between a man and a woman.

And we were okay with that.

Oh, the times were tough.

Maybe this is the way to sell abortion to the left.

You know,

you're not going to wind up with

occupants of your islands if you don't let them be born.

Yeah.

Right.

If you don't let them be born, they can't eventually show up at some weird island.

Yeah.

And then you you can't have your way with them.

We can sell this, I think.

I am very, very, very happy to announce that in Virginia, there is an answer to this.

Okay.

If I may quote a supporter with women's health care under relentless attack, as a practicing physician,

I know a woman, Susanna, who is a nurse practitioner and a public health expert.

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That's why Governor Ralph Northam strongly endorses Susannah Gibson for delegate.

Oh, see?

I mean, finally, you have someone who obviously is very informed on

bodily function extremist.

Well, I mean, he did say that.

No exception.

There was a very contentious committee hearing yesterday when Fairfax County Delegate Kathy Tran made her case for lifting restrictions on third trimester abortions as well as other restrictions now in place.

And she was pressed by a Republican delegate about whether her bill would permit an abortion, even as a woman is essentially dilating, ready to give birth.

And she answered that it would permit an abortion at that stage.

of labor.

Do you support her measure?

And explain her answer.

Yeah, and

I wasn't there, Julie, and I certainly can't speak for Delegate Tran, but I will tell you, one, first thing I would say, this is why decisions such as this should be made by providers, physicians,

and the

mothers and fathers that are involved.

Fathers.

There are, when we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of obviously the mother, with the consent

of the physicians, more than one physician, by the way.

Right, more than that.

And it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities.

There may be a fetus that's non-viable.

So, in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen.

Here we go.

The infant would be delivered.

The infant would be kept comfortable.

The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired.

And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.

So I think this was really blown out of proportion.

What are you talking about?

But again, we want the government not to be involved in these.

Oh, they want

to be aware of libertarian positions.

So we just let go of the

gosh darn it.

So we just let him die.

Now, if you think that's extreme, wait till I introduce you to Susannah Gibson, the one he just endorsed.

Oh, great.

She's a mom.

She's a nurse practitioner.

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you know, the candidate, you know, that's running that Moms Demand Action.

Oh, wow.

She is great.

She's a Democratic candidate.

We just heard.

She's running for Senate in Virginia.

She is the.

No, I thought she was.

No, she's running for state Senate.

Oh, state Senate.

And

she's marvelous.

She's just like you.

She's an average mom.

She's a mother.

It says right on her website.

She's a mom.

She's a nurse practitioner.

And she gets it.

In fact, she seems to get it a lot.

Now, she's running.

She's raising money for a good cause, which has not been defined yet.

And so she has been raising this money and she's doing it in a really innovative way, honestly.

She's raising money on a website

that

I'm not quite familiar with.

It's,

I guess, chatterbait.com.

I'm not sure.

But anyway,

I think it's a...

Anyway, Susannah Gibson is her name.

She's running for a seat in Virginia.

And she last year was posting as a hot wife experience on Chatterbait.

Maybe she was talking about hot flashes.

I don't know.

But then she went on and helped me figure this out because she's just like you, and she's just, she's normal.

She's not an extremist.

She said men could pay tokens to get her to perform specific sex acts.

She said, and I'm quoting, I like being choked.

No, I really do.

I like being hit.

Now, she said this coincidentally last year on September 11th.

So, you know, maybe she was.

Never forget.

I don't know.

Never forget.

Never forget.

And I don't think I will forget this.

In one video she recorded shortly after she launched her campaign.

She told her husband, I'll let you F me in the

whatever in a private room if somebody wants to pay.

I don't think that's private.

I don't know if she knows that.

In another video, she appears to say that for the right price, you could watch her urinate, which, well, she said it a lot classier than that.

She said, y'all can watch me pee if you tip me with some tokens.

And I'm like, oh, okay.

Well, I thought you were going to urinate.

And she's like, no, no, no, I'm going to pee.

Perhaps a supporter of cryptocurrency.

Exactly right.

She said, I want a private room with somebody filming their private part so I can, you know, wow.

She said, I want to be railroaded by all of you.

And I don't know what that

public transportation.

She's got a lot of money.

Is that what it is?

Yeah, probably.

It's Democrats anyway.

500 tokens, she said she would order room service in a hotel and cause the delivery person to see her naked, saying, quote, I'm definitely a slut.

That sounds like a me too type of violation there.

If someone who's not looking to see you naked and you would trick them into seeing you?

Gosh, that sounds like a

major problem.

No, it's a woman.

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I'm going to talk to you a little bit about what's happening in Texas, but I'm talking to you about this because if it's happening in Texas, God only knows what's happening in your state.

I wanted to bring somebody on who really watches this for a living.

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And every day he does, you know, headlines

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And he watches this every weekday at 5, YouTube, X, and podcast platforms.

There is an impeachment going on of probably the strongest

attorney general in the nation,

the one here here in Texas, Ken Paxton.

He's been on this show several times.

I know Ken,

but I don't have a horse in this race.

If he's guilty of a crime, he should be punished.

But it is really beginning to look, and I stayed off this story until the testimony was out.

And I have to tell you, something is very wrong.

in Texas, and Texans better pay attention to this.

Brandon, welcome.

Thank you so much for having me, Glenn.

So

overall, can you quickly just say, you know, what this is supposedly about, and then let's talk about the actual witnesses?

Yeah, so how did we get here?

Essentially, three years ago, you had this group of employees at the Office of the Attorney General who accused Ken Paxton of wrongdoing, of abusing his office to help a friend, essentially.

And they went to the FBI, they reported him,

and that sort of set into motion what we now have three years later, this impeachment process, which many of those impeachment charges are based off of.

Back in May, over Memorial Day weekend, while a lot of people were maybe drilling out or at the lake or whatever, the House met on a Saturday.

They voted to impeach Ken Paxton based on testimony that wasn't sworn testimony.

Ken Paxton wasn't made aware of their investigation until it came out 48 hours before the vote.

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Ken, if I'm not mistaken, was not allowed to respond

in his own defense.

Right.

And so you had a lot of these sort of things that made people look at this and say, hmm, this is odd.

Well, just like D.C.,

you know, the House does the impeachment, goes over to the Senate to determine whether or not they convict, which would actually remove him from office.

And so, for the last few months, there's been a lot of talk from those who have been pushing this impeachment saying, oh, just wait until you see this testimony.

Wait till you see the evidence.

You're going to be blown away by what we have.

And yet, this trial started last week.

And so far, and we're more than halfway through this, the testimony has really, really been weak.

Say a little beyond weak.

There's no evidence of a crime.

I mean, this is the, let me just read something.

This was the third whistleblower.

The concern began when Paxton advocated for the AG's office to open an investigation into Nate Paul, that is his friend and donor, alleged mistreatment by the FBI and Texas DPS during a raid.

Paul's contention was that the feds did him dirty by illegally altering the search warrants after the fact to expand their scope just to get him.

His technical experts theorized that there was altered metadata in the digital versions that proved the documents had been changed.

Maxwell quickly developed the opinion, that's a whistleblower, the opinion that Nate Paul was a criminal that we should not be associated with.

Accordingly, he dragged his feet and ultimately refused to open a formal investigation into the alleged FBI and DPS misconduct.

Paxton, convinced of the idea that the FBI was untrustworthy, well, that's far-fetched, eventually hired outside counsel to help explore and adjudicate Paul's claims, an act that would eventually become the primary catalyst for the whistleblower complaints.

Now, did anything come of that

outside investigation?

No,

and the thing is, is that when you see these people testify, I mean, numerous of these former employees of the Office of the Attorney General have talked about how insane, literally, that's what one of these people said, it would be insane to investigate the FBI, that essentially they trust them wholeheartedly.

That there would be nothing.

I mean, literally, one of them was asked, is there anything that maybe happened over the last two, three, four years that might change your trust in the FBI?

They said no.

Of course, that's at odds with Texas voters.

I mean, Republican primary voters.

We have a poll from after the Mar-a-Lago raid that shows that 73% of Texas Republican primary voters have a negative opinion of the FBI.

What a shock.

So

I'm reading this, and my first thought was, and I dismissed it out of hand.

I don't even know why it came to me, but I'm reading all of the testimony and I'm thinking to myself,

this is George Bush.

This is the George Bush wing of the party that

trusts the FBI, is denying that there's a problem in America.

The problem is the Republican voters, all of that crap.

And then I continue to read on, and it looks like the whistleblowers do have a relationship with George P.

Bush.

Is there anything to this that this is a Bush ambush?

You know, there's been a couple moments during the testimony of the past week where the Bush family has been invoked, and it looks like perhaps they were somehow involved in this.

One of those being that when the whistleblowers went to the FBI and reported Paxton, by the way, without even asking him or talking to him beforehand, and they also said they had no evidence when they went.

But when they were preparing to go to the FBI, on that same day, George P.

Bush was reactivating his law license.

George P.

Bush would eventually challenge Ken Paxton in the Republican primary last year.

He lost 2-1 in the runoff.

And then you also have a case where Johnny Sutton, who is a Bush lawyer, somebody who was a U.S.

attorney under Bush, has been very close with the Bush family.

He has been representing some of these whistleblowers for the last three years and hasn't sent them a bill, hasn't been paid, has essentially been representing them pro bono.

And so that's just another piece of this puzzle that people are looking at and saying, hmm, it looks like someone else, some outside force is involved here.

Honestly, the people who brought this impeachment the way they brought it

should be impeached themselves.

I don't, you know, the one thing I do hear about Paxton is he's just a freight train and he's not good at playing the game and, you know, making friends and influencing people, whatever.

Well, neither was John Adams.

And I'm not comparing him to John Adams.

I'm just saying, temperament-wise, John Adams was not a popular guy.

But you do not bend the rules to get rid of somebody.

If he is, if he's a criminal, if he did something criminal, then I am for his impeachment.

But if this is just because he hasn't made the right friends or a bush wants him out or whatever it is, the people involved in this, because it's been so shady the way they did this, I think they should be impeached.

And certainly, there's been a lot of anger, especially among Republican voters.

You know, it's one thing when we see what's happening with the president, where you see Democrats going after, using the criminal justice system, using these impeachments to go after him.

It's another when you're in Texas and you have Democrats and establishment Republicans going along with it.

It's really bad.

Really, really bad.

Anything to the thought that this happened the week that Paxton said, you know, hey,

why is our Speaker of the House giving

chairmanship to the Democrats?

We don't need friends like this.

And then it was later that week that the impeachment thing happened.

Was there any connection?

Well, I think absolutely there's been a divide.

Look, Speaker Dade Phelan, who's the establishment guy that runs the House, who puts Democrats in power,

He has been at odds with not only Ken Paxton, but the conservative grassroots who have repeatedly elected Paxton.

And so certainly there's no coincidence there.

There's certainly been a lot of bad blood between the establishment and Ken Paxton.

It just shows why they've worked so hard to try to essentially overturn the election and get him out of office.

And quickly, what do your sources tell you?

How's this going to fare?

How's this going to turn out?

Yeah, so they need two-thirds in order to permanently remove them from office.

That vote is expected to take place maybe Friday, Saturday, later this week.

It's a little tough.

You have to kind of do napkin math because these senators are under gag orders.

But I would say that especially after people testifying that they essentially had no evidence, which is what we repeatedly saw last week, I'm hearing a lot of the senators are getting very, very frustrated that House members put them in this position where they have to sit through this.

And

I think that ultimately that's something they're going to be considering whenever they make their decision.

But you'll get all the Democrats.

So how many Republicans do you need?

I think you need

10, 10, if I recall.

10 weasels.

Yeah.

All right.

I hope not.

Thank you so much for reporting on this and bringing us the story.

I appreciate it.

Absolutely.

Thank you.

You bet.

Brandon Waltons.

He is Texas Scorecard.

You can find Texas Scorecard wherever you get to

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And just one quick thing, because in case you missed the show yesterday, it sort of rolls off the tongue to say, oh, well, this was brought without any evidence.

Those are the words of the people who brought the accusations.

Yeah, we have no evidence.

They said, they were asked specifically, did you have any evidence when you brought this case?

And the guy said, no.

The most credible said, It's just my feeling.

Right.

Like, we thought he had some illegal activity, so we brought it to their attention.

Did you have any evidence?

No.

Let me give you something else, and it ties to this.

You know, the guy who was pushed by his

pushed to go into a school board meeting in Virginia because he felt he wasn't being listened to.

His daughter had been raped.

The school board lied to him, and then they charged him, and he was going to jail.

He was pardoned now by the governor of Virginia.

I want you to listen to what he says.

So we were chatting off camera.

Governor Young had offered a pardon for you before, and you said, no, thank you.

I don't want that.

Why?

Well, to be clear, it was only a month ago.

It wasn't months ago.

But because I didn't want to drop my appeal and accept responsibility for the charges that I was convicted of in the lower court.

That was unacceptable to me.

I really wanted to win this straight up on my own merit in court.

But unfortunately, you know, as things have played out, and, you know,

our justice system across this land is unfortunately politicized and weaponized to the hilt.

And that should scare every American.

So you believe there's no way that you could have won in court?

I think I might have been able to win in court with a judge if it would have been the right judge, but no, I think in a jury, I think it would have been a hung jury

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I urge you, if you live in Texas, to call your state senator.

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And I was shocked to read in an op-ed, one of the most dramatic things occurred 20 years ago.

I was about 50.

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I'm great.

I'm great.

It's so good to see you.

Oh, my goodness.

What a treat to see you.

Are you doing okay?

I'm doing great.

Sounds like you've had a wild week, huh?

Yeah, and it's only Tuesday.

So

give a short version here of what happened to you that no one knew.

Well,

it was a great time, and my life is great now.

But boy, I mean, it was a tough time.

And everything was,

you know, there's a reason the word dead is in deadline.

It leaves you.

Every time I turned around, I had another deadline to meet.

And I wasn't doing a great job managing our growing church.

And staff was having a tough stretch of it.

And I became even resentful of our own staff.

Leave me alone.

I've got important things to do.

I was not the best version of me.

And then I got diagnosed with atrial fibrillation, which means your heart rate is moving real fast.

And the doctor wanted to put me on medicine, told me to slow down.

I couldn't slow down because I was so important to the world.

I mean, what would God do if he didn't have me every week?

It was pathetic.

Before I became a follower of Christ, I was a real heavy drinker.

And

I thought, well, I'll just go have a beer.

and take the edge off.

That's the phrase.

Well, that was just one day.

That became two days.

That became two or three weeks.

And that became a couple of months.

And I got into this habit, Glenn, of kind of escaping the office at the end of the day

and going,

sitting in a parking lot in a convenience store with one of those supersized beers

and guzzling it down.

And

if you're in the parking lot guzzling beers, that is a sign there may be a problem.

There's something wrong.

I like beer.

I still think beer is fine.

What I was doing that was wrong is I wasn't doing what I had told people to do for decades, and that is when you're under stress,

pray, find friends, somebody will help you.

There's healthy ways to deal with stress.

I was not dealing with it in a healthy fashion.

And one day, and this is going to sound a little super spiritual, forgive me, but I think God talked to me.

And I think God said, are you doing okay?

And my thought was, I'm going to make, I'm handling it.

Max was in charge of Max.

And the confrontation came,

well, you're not doing very well.

Not doing very well.

And that's about all it took.

And I came undone.

I had a good cry session right there.

And

we have elders in our church, a group of leaders, of men who oversee the church.

And so at the very next meeting, I went to them.

told them exactly what was happening.

They were awesome.

They came up with ways to restructure the work demands.

I shared it with the church.

I told everybody in the church about it.

They were awesome.

That created a lot of conversations about other people not managing stress well.

And it was

a good come to Jesus moment for this guy who had been preaching about Jesus for a long time.

So why share this story now?

You have a new book out about Jacob.

Thank you.

So

I love Jacob.

I love Jacob.

And there's some wonderful stories about Jacob.

Jacob is the imperfect man who was a part of God's perfect plan.

So tell if people don't know who Jacob is.

Super quick synopsis.

He's the grandson of Abraham.

He's the one who was the secondborn.

He was the secondborn twin.

He wanted to be firstborn, and there was a prophecy that he would be over his elder brother Esau, but he took matters into his own hands.

He swindled his brother.

He lied to his father.

His mother said, you better get out of here.

Esau's going to kill you.

So he goes into hiding.

He goes up to Mesopotamia.

That's where he meets his match, a man by the name of Laban, who's every bit as much of a sneak as Jacob was, and marries the wrong woman.

He thinks he's marrying Rachel, ends up marrying her sister, which is an amazing story.

Spends seven years working for Laban for one wife, spends seven years working for the other.

Finally, he has six years on his own to amass his wherewithal to go back home.

And on the way home, he's at a creek called Jabbuk, Jabbuk.

And across the creek is the area where Esau lives.

He's not seen this brother in 20 years.

This brother, he cheated.

And that night, he spends the night, we're not told why, alone on the river Jabbok.

And that's when God comes to him.

God came to me in a convenience store parking lot.

God came to Jacob.

right there, and they wrestled.

They wrestled.

They wrestled all night.

It's a picture of all of us who wrestle with God, you know.

And he actually thought he had brought God,

that he was going to pin God.

Right.

And God with one touch.

One touch dislocated his hip.

And there's a little Hebrew idiomatic expression that suggests not only was his hip out of place, his manhood was affected.

So, I mean, everything about Jacob was done.

He was brought to his knees.

He limped for the rest of his life.

But that's when God changed his name.

Changed it from Jacob to Israel.

A name we still use today.

Many interpretations of what Israel means.

I love the one, God fights.

And so the old Jacob, Jacob fought for himself.

The old Max, Max fought for himself.

The new Jacob, God is fighting for me.

And the last 20 years, I think I've been living out of that realization that God fights for us.

So there is...

Wow, a profound lack of faith right now.

And this next generation, only about 18% of them are churchgoers.

It was 51% in World War II.

Wow.

The last generation,

I think, was 35.

And in one generation, it's down to 18.

Because I think they don't

church and stuff, it's just not.

I don't know.

I think churches think it has to be slicker and more packaged and everything else to appeal to those people with short attention spans but i think there's times that churches don't give

real answers to real life everybody's struggling right now

and and our especially our youth they are struggling with self-esteem yeah

going through i i think some of the things you know not exactly like jacob but you know i why am i even here if i'm not the firstborn if i'm i mean i want to be somebody special

and I'm not, so I guess I have no worth.

Where do you begin with

when people are down and they're just like, I don't really have any purpose, I don't have worth.

The statistics are staggering, aren't they, Glenn?

They are.

I read one the other day that in 2022, an average of 135 people a day orchestrated their own death.

135 people a day.

It's the largest killer now over heart disease.

My goodness.

Worse it's been since World War II.

So

why?

You know,

what is going on?

And it's a complex answer.

To me, the answer has something to do with the fact that people

have bought into the idea that the whole world is just what we see, it's just us.

It's the secularization of society.

Part of the blame for that is the church.

There's been church scandals that have caused people to not trust the church.

Part of the blame for that is just the media.

Part of the blame to that is that we've chosen to disallow our schools from even talking about matters of faith, regardless of what faith orientation a person has.

So I think all of us could share in some of the blame there.

I think bottom line, people are not being, kids are not being given an answer to the question, what am I here for?

What's my purpose in life?

And is there life beyond this life?

And once the church really begins to empower people with that great story of hope that we're here for just an instant to make a decision about the next life, and that we're loved by a God who refuses to give up on us, I think that will infuse hope into into people's lives.

So people say, why am I here?

What is my purpose?

I felt a prompting, if you will,

from God when I was probably eight.

And I thought I knew what I was to do, and it was to do radio.

And I misunderstood that until I was about 30 and an alcoholic and everything else.

and threw that away and went, that was stupid.

I don't even know if that really even happened.

You know how you think.

And so I just stopped doing that.

And that's when I found my purpose.

My purpose wasn't to do radio.

What my life's purpose was.

How do people who

haven't heard or don't know how to find what their life's purpose is?

How do you find that?

I urge people

to pray.

pray.

And the response I get back often is, well, I don't believe in God.

And I say, that's fine.

Pray anyway.

What you got to lose?

If you don't believe in God, then it doesn't hurt to try.

And I believe that there's a God who believes in people who don't believe in him.

And that our faith, that his commitment to us is not contingent upon our commitment to him.

It's called unconditional love.

And it's hard for people to grasp.

The Bible word for it is grace, is grace.

And it's hard for people because there's nothing like it in the world.

Everything else is, I'll do this, you do that.

But there is, and anybody who's had a second child or more.

There you go.

I was convinced that I could not love a child more than I loved my firstborn.

And the moment my second child came out, I'm like, oh my gosh, I love her so much.

It's crazy.

And you do anything for you.

You do anything for them.

And so what happens if a person finally comes to believe that there is a God who created this whole world and he's on my side?

He's not against me.

He's not ticked off at me.

He's pulling for me.

He's rooting for me.

And he's got plans for me beyond this life.

That's what it took for me, Glenn.

And it's that simple.

It's a matter of faith.

So I urge people, I said, just talk to him.

So let me take a one-minute break and then come back and I want to ask you about transactional theology.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

And his testimony was so good and raw.

He shared it with Joe Rogan a couple of weeks ago.

But he said he was sitting in his truck and he's like, God, I'll do everything right.

I'll give you this.

I'll whatever.

Just X, Y, and Z.

And his prayer was answered.

But that's transactional.

Explain transactional theology.

Yes, yeah.

Transactional theology says, God, if you'll do this, I'll do that.

It's that simple.

If you'll get me a job promotion, then

I'll quit cussing.

If you'll give us a baby, I'll become a missionary.

You know, if you do this, I'll do that.

And the reason that story, I discussed that in the book is Jacob did that.

There's a great story that anybody who's heard of Jacob will remember,

the ladder that comes out of heaven, you know, the stairway to heaven, the old song.

The ladder comes out of heaven.

And Jacob is in, he's broke, he's penniless, he's running from his brother, and in the middle of the night, he's sleeping in the desert, has to use a stone for a pillow, he's so broke.

He has a vision of a stairway coming out of heaven or a ladder, and the angels are descending and ascending

on that ladder.

And at the top is God, and God reaffirms the covenant, the promise

that he had made to Abraham.

And Jacob then prays.

Way to go, Jacob.

He prays.

First spiritual thing we've seen Jacob do in the whole story.

But when he prays, he says, now, God, if you'll take care of me,

if you'll watch over me, and if you'll get me back home eventually, then I'll give you a tenth of everything I own, and I'll say, you're my God.

As if God needs a tenth of what a guy has who's dead broke.

Right.

You know,

it's transactional theology.

And Glenn, the problem with that is that if we begin to negotiate with God.

But wait a minute.

What is the difference between what I did, which was,

God,

you tell me if I do these things, you will take this burden off my back, this spiritual darkness off my back.

And I will do what you ask me.

You promise me that you're going to do this.

What's the difference between that?

When we come to God, it's never to say, God, if you'll do that, I'll do this.

It's to say, God, would you do that?

And I trust you.

Prayer is not asking God to do what I want.

Prayer is asking God to do what is best, what is right.

And here's what I request.

Jacob was right to make the request.

Jacob was wrong to hinge his loyalty.

upon God's performance.

He had reduced God down to

a manageable or packageable size.

And the challenge in that is we have a small God when we do that.

And what we need helping us through these tough times is a God with big biceps.

I got a strong God.

I say this to Christians all the time.

They're like, yeah, I know we got to return to God, but what else do we have to do?

And I'm like, guys,

he raised Jesus from the dead.

I think fixing our country.

Probably pretty simple.

Yes.

Probably could do that pretty quickly.

Yes.

You know, just serve him, believe in him.

Thank you.

And turn to him.

Glenn, thank you.

Thank you.

Because we act like that's not enough.

Right.

That's not enough.

And the fact of the matter is, going back to God and trusting him and allowing him then to do the work

lifts the burden off of us.

So many Christians believe in grace.

You can't do anything

for the biggest miracle he hands out, forgiveness.

You can't do anything.

Amen.

And yet we think just turning to him isn't enough for him to fix this.

It's like, what do you, I don't understand your disconnect there.

Something happens when people turn back to God and everything else starts to line up.

But you're right.

People say that's too simple.

That's too easy.

That's not enough.

It's not enough just to turn back to God.

We've got to come up with a certain policy or plan.

Hey,

I think God's got a

pretty powerful track record.

Will you please come back for a podcast so we can spend some real time together?

Of course.

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Well, let's see.

We have

a Pentagon and a president who says he's going to veto the DOD bill, which will put us,

according to the left, in real peril and jeopardy because of national defense.

We are now sending short, I mean, longer-range missiles to Ukraine that are cluster bombs because those worked out so well.

Yesterday, after we did that, Medvedev said,

you know,

there's going to be a nuclear attack on America.

So we have that going on.

We have the government possibly shutting down soon.

We have the migration, illegal immigration thing going on.

We have Trump.

We have the election.

We have the economy going to hell in a

crap basket.

And let's do one more thing.

Stu, breaking news.

We have an impeachment inquiry, an official one,

being announced by Speaker McCarthy just moments ago.

The formal impeachment inquiry will begin into Joe Biden, led by Representatives James Comer, Jim Jordan, and Jason Smith.

It was a short statement.

The allegations of abuse of power, obstruction, and corruption.

As the part of this, Kevin McCarthy says, I am directing our House committees to open a formal impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden.

Over the past several months, House Republicans have uncovered serious and credible allegations into President Biden's conduct, a culture of corruption.

So this is happening, and it will give them some additional

investigative powers, which are important when looking for what they're trying to dig into, right?

It's really hard to get to this information.

They've hit some walls, oftentimes government walls

in the way.

They will be able to break down some of those walls and see some more of this information.

We've had reports over the past week that there may be some sort of charge coming against Hunter Biden on the gun situation.

Yeah, I think this is why they're moving so quickly on this,

because

the FBI has been saying,

we're going to do a plea bargain on the gun.

We're going to do that here in the next week or so.

And I think Congress wanted to make sure that they had that all locked down before there was any kind of plea bargain that might skate through with some judge

on

the gun charge, which Hunter Biden is continually saying covers all past crimes, even this new one.

Yeah, he is saying that, and his attorneys are saying that.

I don't don't know if that's actually true, but that is what they are saying.

So this is a big moment.

And of course, Glenn, there's more to this than just the investigation and more to this than whether President Biden did anything wrong or not, which, of course, I think he did.

The calculation needs to be made politically on this.

This is a political process.

And the calculation is, do you believe you can convince enough of the American people to believe this isn't some quote-unquote witch hunt?

I think there's enough there.

Whether the American people want to look at it or not is a totally different story.

You already have, I think, 45%

or 35% of Democrats now saying he did something wrong, possibly illegal.

That's a large, that's a large number.

Yeah, it's farther along than the media would let you know.

This is a process that takes a long time.

And just knowing just this general sense of corruption goes a long way.

You know,

we've talked about this on the Trump side of things, right?

If you, we could talk about all the different, there's four indictments on Trump, right?

The New York one, for example, is impossibly weak, right?

Obviously, just a political persecution.

I don't think most of the people, even on the left, will say that, that are looking at the details.

But when you pull the American people, there's almost no separation between the four cases.

They see that some people think Donald Trump is guilty of stuff.

Some people don't.

And it breaks down on those lines.

People aren't even looking at the facts here.

But the general sense of corruption is really important.

and

it's unfortunately affecting both sides here.

The fact that you can get this to cancel out, if these two things cancel out, it's probably really good for Donald Trump.

Bad for the country.

It's bad for the country, but it's probably good for Trump's campaign because outside of the corruption stuff they throw at Trump, it's impossible to justify re-electing this guy.

And by this guy, I mean Joe Biden.

He's done a terrible job.

He's 115 years old.

He can't string three sentences together.

Under normal circumstances, he would have absolutely no chance to be reelected.

But with what's going on now, of course, that's another story.

So you're going to see him,

I think, sooner rather than later.

The minute these actual investigations and any kind of

any kind of formal presentation of all those facts as they are found, I think you're going to see Joe Biden resign

because of health.

Because of health.

And

I don't think that that won't have the same kind of deal that

Gerald R.

Ford did.

It will be the end of Kamala Harris's career.

Period.

Because the reason why Gerald R.

Ford didn't win is because he took over from Nixon and everybody went, when he pardoned him, everybody was like, whoa, whoa.

And it was the right thing, perhaps, to do for the country.

Maybe not.

But at the time, it was, you know, sold as the right thing to do for the country so we could all move on.

But everybody was like,

that was a bad deal.

That was a deal cut.

in

the dark.

Sure.

And that's how people would look at it, I think.

Anytime a president pardoned one of his close allies.

Yeah.

Do you think, though, that we're the same country?

Do you think we would react the same way?

Are these historical parallels, will they work?

They're certainly worth understanding, but does that apply to Texas?

Yeah, because I think

everybody's looking for an excuse to

just say, no way, Kamalaris.

Yeah, I do think that's real.

Yeah.

That's real.

And

that will just be the last straw.

That'll be the convenient straw that breaks the back.

I'm not sure.

I mean, I think with the way partisanship is today,

I don't know if this will work.

It should.

I mean, I will say I started the Biden corruption stuff really open-minded, relatively skeptical of whether we'd find anything.

I mean, I'm not saying he didn't do it.

Obviously, there's some level of corruption with every politician.

I didn't have a high opinion of Biden.

But the fact that we would find as much as we found, the text messages basically identifying that Hunter Biden is using this influence.

He's taking the money and then giving a bunch of it to Joe Biden.

Like, that's really direct.

It's on text messages through the family.

Yeah.

The Shell corporations, I mean, some of this stuff is over the top more than I ever thought we would find.

Some of that gets easy when a guy leaves his laptop at a computer repair shop, I will admit, but still, this is, they've gone a far away.

I don't know if the American people are open enough to information that is damaging to their own side.

that they will look at this honestly.

They won't the minute he's out of office, and that's what he's counting on.

He does not want Hunter to go to jail.

He does not want to go to jail himself.

You know, do you want to spend

your last few

minutes, years,

fighting this kind of fight where it could work out to be really bad for you?

I mean, this is why I thought he wouldn't run because I've been on the Biden train of

corruption now for the two years before he became president.

It wasn't until Peter Schweizer's book that Peter did that four years before, and I'm like, well, I don't know.

You know, we're never going to prove it.

Oh, once we got into the impeachment of Trump and I saw what was happening in Ukraine, I'm like, oh my gosh, this is horrible.

And since then,

we've added a lot of information.

And I think it is really important in these type of situations to have super clear and understandable evidence that the American people can see and understand.

Oh, they can't.

They can't.

They're not going to take more than five minutes to understand this.

I feel like I talked to the audience of my show, Studios America, and of course this audience.

You're different than everybody else.

I don't think they understand that at times.

People don't watch this stuff like this audience watches this stuff.

But

it's hard.

It will come down to one thing.

It will.

It always does.

O.J.

Simpson.

Nobody listened.

I mean, we watched it every day, but nobody was really listening.

What did that come down to?

Maybe the glove fit.

If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.

Okay.

Amazing.

With all, they had DNA.

Yeah, but DNA was too early.

So they had DNA.

They had all of it.

It came down to the glove.

You need that thing.

You need that thing.

And I don't know.

Text messages are pretty close to that thing.

Oh, I think they have the thing.

I really do.

I think they have the thing.

It's just not been put all in one place yet.

Just not all there.

You need that real narrative.

Now, you've actually painted that out really well on a couple of your TV shows and on radio as well.

But with visual aids, sometimes it's easier to see that stuff put together.

But if they can make that case in a clear and concise fashion, I think you do have a chance.

And part of the reason is Biden's weakness.

If Biden was Obama, I don't think the Democratic side of the argument would look at it.

I think they

just brush it off to racism or whatever because they liked him so much.

He was a relatively popular Democrat.

I mean, among Democrats.

Biden,

there's a built-in doubt with him.

They don't want him to run again.

Overwhelmingly, even Democrats, they think he's too old.

No, he was expendable from the very beginning.

From the very beginning.

So was Kamala.

If they could figure out another path here that they thought was plausible, and it's not Kamala, I don't think it's Gavin Newsom.

They might think it is.

They might think it is.

Here's the thing.

They're going to run.

I think they're going to run Gavin Newsom because he's young and they can now do that old thing to Donald Trump, even though it doesn't stick with Donald Trump because

he's lucid.

The problem is not his age with Joe Biden, it's that he's not lucid all the time.

But I think they're going to run somebody young and it won't be Kamala.

This will be the way to get Kamala out.

Because she's tainted by this administration.

She's literally done nothing on her own.

No.

And she'll pardon.

She might even pardon both of them.

And

that will be the real

death knell for America because

this has to be

punished.

Even if they both were in a plane crash, you know, orchestrated by Putin,

They still, this still should go through.

And we have to know how did they do it, stop all of that, and teach a lesson that you cannot get away with this.

Because this was the worst corruption in American history.

Can I, how much time do we have here, Sarah?

About a minute.

About a minute.

How do you see the politics of this playing out?

Do you think this would work as, forget the truth, does it work as a tactic for republicans it didn't work you'd argue for the clinton impeachment

i don't think it's a tactic i'm not saying it's a tactic i'm just saying how does it work as a tactic because right or wrong this is going to have political ramifications does it work to convince people or do people anymore i don't know how to judge americans anymore but i i will say the evidence is so strong do you see the evidence that came out today with his what was it his grand niece or somebody that was working in the Treasury, also sending emails to Devin and giving him information about a treaty with or an economic conversation in China that she happened to be attending and so she could hear it.

She made all the notes, sent it to him.

I mean, the evidence here is so

overwhelming, I think, overwhelming.

We're not even hitting the witnesses, right?

The text messages are one thing.

How many of his close business associates that were highly invested in a Biden presidency and vice presidency have come out now and said this stuff is true?

I mean, we have tons of people on the record who have said it.

It is incredible.

And if they can paint this, if they can do this right, they have a real chance to make a difference here.

I think politically, it's going to play out at first as this is just a response for the corrupt Donald Trump.

Yep.

They are just trying to

persecute us, blah, blah, blah.

They'll use all the things that they're doing right now because that's what they always do.

But I don't think it works this time.

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It is 9-12 and I haven't had a chance today to spend any time on the 9-12 project or what 9-12 means.

I'm going to have to do that tomorrow.

We have breaking news.

I was going to do it in this last half hour, but we had breaking news

that

the formal impeachment

investigations are going on now in Congress.

They just announced that a few minutes ago.

I'm going to be on with Megan Kelly

here in the next few minutes,

and we'll be talking about that.

She follows this program on XM Sirius.

Also, she has the, you know, the podcast.

So join me with Megan.

I'm going to try to quickly do some more homework on the impeachment,

so I'll have something to bring to the table.

But more on tomorrow's program about how we move forward, what we do in the next 12 months, will decide, I believe, decide whether America survives or not.

We'll see you tomorrow.

God bless.