Best of the Program | Guest: Steve Baker | 9/6/23

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A man who claims he slept with Barack Obama and saw him do drugs is set to appear on Tucker Carlson’s new show. Investigative journalist and BlazeTV contributor Steve Baker joins to discuss the weaponization of January 6 in the wake of a recent 22-year jail sentence for a former Proud Boys leader. Glenn and Stu discuss the downward spiral our economy is experiencing as Glenn shares a recent story regarding his credit card.
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hi stu

hi glad how are you today on the podcast we do a puppet show except it's uh there's no visuals it's just the voices hi oh

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So, Stu, tell me what you know about the guy who says I had sex with Tucker Carlson from the past, not what you know now.

Well, I had never heard of a guy having sex with Tucker Carlson, and so that's

another breaking news story.

Well, we'll get to that one

in a little while.

Believe me, the press will pay attention to that one.

I will say I've completely ignored the story.

You've completely ignored it.

Completely ignored it.

Everything you remember.

I sort of remember the headlines, never really cared about it.

Okay.

So everything you were about to tell me is new information.

Okay.

So Stu has a very selective memory, and this is one.

This is a story that.

It wasn't me, was it?

Because that would be.

Yeah.

Okay.

It was you.

I told you.

All new information.

All that crack.

All that crack.

You know, when you're on crack, you forget a lot of things.

Okay.

So anyway, this is a story that back in 2007, 2008, somewhere in that area, this story surfaced.

And it is a guy who says, no, I had sex and small crack with Barack Obama.

Now, these were the days where those things were crazy.

I mean, I know they're they're run of the mill today,

but back in the old days, we didn't have presidents that were smoking crack and having gay sex

that we know of.

What do you think?

What do you think that tall hat on Abraham Lincoln was?

Hmm?

Crack pipes.

Anyway,

so I remember this coming out, and we had No verification of anything.

We never talked about it because we were, we looked, and I think I even said on radio at one point, guys, guys, we don't have to go to the gay sex crackpipe thing.

There's enough on the Marxist front.

And we were in the midst of fighting the Jeremiah Wright fight that the media also dismissed.

Okay.

They dismissed absolutely everything about Barack Obama.

because

he was their candidate.

Now,

I have long forgotten about the gay sex thing with Barack Obama.

But the man who's, I mean, it was a magical evening for him, he hasn't forgotten.

Now, the reason this is a story today

is because

Barack Obama's old girlfriend received a letter from Barack Obama when they were dating, and then they broke up.

And I think this letter might have had something to do with it, where he talked about thinking about having sex with men all the time.

And

I mean, she just didn't think that that was, you know, her cup of tea.

You know, she, they had a lot in common.

She also thought about having sex with men, but didn't like her boyfriend to be thinking that way, apparently.

So nobody in the press even asked her about it.

She's just turned over the letter because I don't even know who looked into it.

Somebody looked into it and started going through and they found this trail, led to her, then the letter was produced, and we now know.

So this guy is going to be on Tucker Carlson.

No, this guy is going to appear

on the Twitter show that Tucker Carlson hosts.

How's that?

Is that better?

Yeah.

And

he's,

well, let me just, here he is.

You're just a guy who's in town for the night, and it sounds like you're looking to party.

Yes.

Pulled up in a bar outside, and there's this guy that's introduced to me as Barack Obama.

I had given Barack $250 to pay for Coke.

I start putting a line on a CD tray to snort, and next thing I know, he's got a little pipe and he's smoking.

So I just started rubbing my hand along this thigh to see where it was going, and it went the direction I had intended it to go.

Even though you had sex with him twice, you did cocaine with him, watched him smoke crack crack twice, you had no idea who he was.

I had no idea who he was.

The obvious question was: what was Obama like on crack?

Is it your sense that that sewer bomb is just transactional or that he's bisexual?

Or like, what is this?

It definitely wasn't Barack's first time, and I would almost be willing to bet you it wasn't Islam.

The guy's running for president and credible information comes out that he's smoking crack and having sex with dudes.

That seems like a story.

Well, it would be a story if the media really cared about telling people the truth.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

Woo.

That's a good way to wake up in the morning.

Good morning, everybody.

Yes, just a regular run-of-the-mill Wednesday in America.

Is it possible to rewind my life and delete the past five minutes?

Is that possible?

Is that something that's out there?

Is that Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind?

Is that a documentary?

We could.

Because I'm very interested.

And knowing less about this story.

Can I know less about it?

Well, here's why this story is important.

Okay.

And there's only one reason this is important because I don't care about anybody's lifestyle.

I do think it's interesting that the first black president, now some are saying the first gay president,

but they don't know about Polk,

is

Barack Obama.

He came out against all of this stuff.

Okay.

The press, all they had to do was investigate.

Now,

there were so many things going on at the time.

The Jeremiah Wright thing, I thought, was much more

important.

I don't know if we knew about the crack thing, but the gay sex we knew.

We didn't.

Or we didn't know.

We know this guy said it.

Right.

And that's why we never reported it.

It was one source.

Now, with the letter,

that looks pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty bad.

Pretty bad.

Like, yeah, okay, it probably happened.

The reason why this is important

is because times have changed so much.

The press did not pursue this story.

There was not one

person in the press that decided on their own to pursue this story.

If this story would have come out with the letter in 2007,

would things have been different?

Or would the press have said the same thing they said about Hunter Biden?

I contend they would have done exactly the same thing they did with Hunter Biden.

They would have claimed that this was not true.

This is just a smear because he's black, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

So has the media changed

at all?

Because they're still not reporting this.

Now with the letter, they're still still not reporting this.

And again, this guy, he didn't have any credibility of me.

I have no idea, you know, who he is.

But the letter

now gives this great weight.

So they're doing the same thing.

They're just ignoring this one, hoping that it will go away.

And by doing so, half the nation knows something that the other half does not.

By doing so, half the nation has information that the other side has no idea about, thus causing another fracture and balkanization.

Because when you get together with somebody and you're having dinner, you know, Thanksgiving, and I hope this doesn't come up, but if this comes up, you're going to have all the people in your family say, there you go again,

making stuff stuff up and being

probably very, very upset about it.

If I found out this about Donald Trump or anybody else, I would want to know it.

I would want to know it.

But they don't even get the ability to decide.

The same thing is happening now with the government.

You may not be able to decide if you can vote for Barack Obama or not.

Sorry, Donald Trump or not.

Because they know better.

For the people who claim democracy is so important,

they're trying everything they can to eliminate Donald Trump from the ballot,

including telling states to remove him from the ballot,

trying to get him under the 14th Amendment, which does not apply here,

trying to put him in jail, any of these things, just so you cannot vote for who you want to vote for.

If that's Barack Obama, if, gosh, if that is Donald Trump, then it's Donald Trump.

But trust the American people, but they don't.

This should tell you everything you need to know about progressives and everything you need to know about the media, which are progressives.

They don't think you're smart enough.

They want to be the arbiter of the information that you get.

Look at the CDC.

I have no problem

with the CDC.

I don't like the way it was done, but I have no problem with drug companies trying to come up with a vaccine.

I have no problem.

What I have a problem with is they didn't even live by their own rules.

Okay, so that would make me say, I'm not going to take this until other people have taken this.

I want to see because

this is first time ever this has been done.

I don't think I'm going to take it.

My problem is not with people who decided to take it or the people that were offering it.

My problem was being forced.

My problem was, we know better than you.

My problem was the FDA saying, you can't use these other options.

Who the hell are you to tell my doctor?

Who are are you to tell my doctor that I can't take drugs that have been on the market for a hundred years?

Who are you?

You know better than my personal doctor?

How dare you?

You should feel about Fauci and everybody else the same way you feel about Fauci and all those who tried to jam this down your throat and make you into a monster.

you should feel the same way about the press

because the press is also making all of your decisions

by excluding information we we have numbers research come has come out that shows 15% of the people that voted for Joe Biden had they known about the

the Hunter Biden laptop had they been told about it, had they not been told that it was a Russian op

would have changed their vote and not voted for Joe Biden.

Okay,

they made the decision for you.

You didn't need to know that information.

There's one thing about

there's one thing about people

not reporting because you have one source.

I didn't report this story.

It would come up and I would dismiss it.

If it ever came up on the air, I would say, there's enough with Jeremiah Wright.

No need to go into that rumor.

We don't know if that's true.

It's another thing when you have physical evidence.

The press's job is to look at everyone with equal eyes, but they don't anymore.

If you're running, I don't care if you're a Republican or a Democrat.

If you're running and there's information out there, I don't want to hear all of the rumors and innuendos.

But these large organizations have the people to do the research.

They have the people to go and the resources to go and and investigate.

Thank God now the right

has the resources.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Steve, investigative journalist Blaze Media contributor Steve Baker joins us now.

Welcome.

Thanks, Glenn.

Good to be here.

Yeah, good.

First time we've met.

Absolutely.

So I've never met anybody that was charged with racketeering.

Have I?

He looks dangerous.

He does.

He looks like a racketeer.

Sorry.

So

they actually said they were going to come after you because you have the January ⁇ had the access to the January 6th footage, right?

Well, this original assault on my freedom, no other way to characterize it, happened two years ago.

I was there at the Capitol.

I was there covering it as a journalist that day.

I did what every other journalist would do that had a camera and a microphone and a tripod.

I wandered around and followed the story where the story went.

The story went into the building, and myself and between 80 and 100 other journalists also followed the story into the building.

Those independent journalists who have been jacked up legally obviously did not file their stories the next day with the right media outlet.

And then, of course, those who did, none of them have faced any criminal penalties or investigation whatsoever.

So

fast forward eight months from then, I got the call from the FBI.

I asked them, what took you so long?

And then a couple months later, they did the interview with me.

A month after that, and this was November of 21, they actually notified my attorney that I was going to be charged within the week, quote unquote, and that one of those charges was going to be for interstate racketeering.

Now, not a single other January 6th defendant of any type has ever even been threatened with racketeering in this.

How do they, what, based on what?

Well, the only thing that we were able to surmise, and this was an educated guess, was because during my FBI interview, they asked me what I had done with my videos.

And I said, well, I did what everybody else does.

I licensed my videos.

My videos have been used by HBO for their documentary, the New York Times for their documentary, such and such and such.

And

the FBI agent went,

how much did you make?

And I looked at my attorney and I said, I don't have to answer that question, do I?

He said, no.

And

next thing I know, my attorney gets an actual U.S.

code violation number that they were going to charge me with.

And it was, in fact, an interstate racketeering felony charge with a potential prison sentence of 20 years.

So now you didn't hear anything from 21 until recently.

Yeah,

they went silent.

We immediately launched a,

lack of a better way to put it, a media offensive.

I sent out over 200 press releases right after we were notified that I was going to be charged within the week, quote unquote.

And I think we successfully backed them off.

At least they took my file and put it on the bottom.

This particular assistant U.S.

attorney did anyway.

And so we didn't hear from them again for over 20 months.

And then a month ago, we get a subpoena.

And what does it say?

What do you have to do?

I had to turn over all of my videos that I had taken that day.

And the interesting thing about that is, and of course we had several, not only my attorneys, but other experts look at the subpoena and they said, oh, yes, this is about you.

Because

if they were bringing you in, the grand jury was bringing you in, they would have subpoenaed you directly to testify in somebody else's case.

But because they didn't bring you in and they are

for your

evidence, it's about you.

And, of course,

a grand jury is not convened for misdemeanor charges.

How does that feel?

I have good days and bad days.

I mean, obviously,

it's not anything I want to go through.

I pray every day, Lord, let this cup pass from me.

But then on the good days, I'm ready to fight whatever it is.

It is absolutely incredible what's going on.

We were just talking about the ADL and their fight with Elon Musk, but we know that's coordinated from the left, or we have great suspicion that that's all a coordinated attack.

Look at, you know, we've said, if they can do this to Donald Trump, they'll do this to anybody.

Well, they're now doing exactly the same thing to Elon Musk.

I'll show you the man.

Go find the crime.

And here you are, just a journalist, a regular guy.

But did you get...

Did you get the call from, you know, I don't even know the Proud Boys and the Hoods or whoever it was that organized this whole thing?

No, this is what makes a interstate racketeering charge ridiculous on its face, is that requires collusion, coordination, basically a conspiracy with others in order to initiate some sort of racketeering plan.

And the reality is, is that by myself, I crossed a state line from North Carolina into Virginia into D.C.

to do nothing more than document an event that was taking place.

And

quite frankly, I'm not and have never been a Trump supporter.

So this is interesting,

again, on another level.

And so, when that happened and we got this particular charge, the only thing I could think of is who are they going to connect me to?

I've never been in contact with a Proud Boy or an Oathkeeper or anything of that type in my life.

Now, once the trials started and I started covering the trials and covering January 6th events, I've talked to quite a few of them.

How many people are in jail still without a trial?

I don't know that number.

It's not as big as we maybe think it was.

Five would be

too many.

But there's more than that.

They've arrested over 1,100 now.

They are obviously ramping up now because they got that huge new

funding boost in the last omnibus bill back in that $1.7 trillion

omnibus bill last year.

And then as a result of that, they have the funding now that they believe they can go after another 2,000 people, 1,200 to 2,000 people.

Holy cow.

And yet, the ones who cut down one of the fences, we showed this video last week, cut one of the fences, was there.

We have his face.

The guy up on the tower, we have his face.

The pipe bombers, nobody seems to care about those guys in the Department of Justice.

Nobody seems to be even, they've never posted their faces on the Most Wanted list.

We've asked questions, obviously, about all of those.

We've done our own investigations.

Some of us have run our own facial recognition software.

Obviously, they have better facial recognition software at the Department of Justice and the FBI.

And we've also seen many of these characters using their phones while on the Capitol campus.

So they are really proud to roll out as evidence in these trials this geofencing software that they have and they can track people down and they're really proud to roll that out.

But when we point out the clear facial

high-definition photography of an individual and using their phones and then we ask why they don't know who it is, oh, well,

we don't.

We just don't know.

Okay.

So Henry Enrique Tario, yesterday, former chairman of the Proud Boys, sentenced to 22 years in prison.

22 years.

Tell me this case.

He has a checkered background.

You start there.

He's been in trouble with the law a couple of times before.

He's actually done time in federal prison for another conspiracy charge.

I forget the exact details of the case, but it was some sort of medical device rebranding that he was doing, that they had stolen goods, and he got jacked up for that.

Yeah, but not against the government.

But not against the government.

And it was a federal charge, and he did spend time in federal prison.

And then he became an informant after that.

And he actually began informing on other criminals in the circles that he ran in.

And then as a result of that,

he

was considered by many of the people, even in the Proud Boys, first of all, they didn't think he would ever be arrested for this.

They thought that probably he was a CHS himself, confidential human source for the FBI or some government agency.

So there was always that conspiracy and always that suspicion about him leading up to this.

And then he was arrested.

And then the suspicion was, well, he'll never go through with it or he'll somehow

get out of it.

And of course, now after the conviction and the sentencing, the conspiracy still persists because they say, okay, well, he'll get sent to some

white-collar country club facility and be out in a couple of years.

With

reason,

he probably was not a confidential human source on this, then.

I don't think he was.

I think that in this particular case, he did, in fact, he escalated very quickly because he didn't join the Proud Boys till just, I think, 2017, 18, something like that.

Wow.

He escalated in leadership very quickly.

And then once he reached the top and took over the reins of it,

he was an active voice as a lot of these people who are being convicted.

They're being convicted for their scary words.

A lot of those words are rather founding father-ish.

They're very revolutionary type words that we've heard and read and seen before.

And some of us use that language.

And so a lot of these people are being much more severely punished for their words than for their deeds, because obviously he did not tear down any fencing that day.

He did not participate in violence that day.

He wasn't in D.C.

that day at all.

So the only thing that they were able to convict him of was his scary words and ultimately the conspiracy of having planned the event, but the FBI never was ever able to produce actual evidence of a written or verbal plan

of a conspiracy to attack, assault, take down the Capitol, stop the electoral ratification.

And that was the same exact thing that they did in the oath keepers trials.

These guys were convicted of seditious conspiracy, but it was

what they called an implied conspiracy.

It was a thought crime.

It was not an explicit conspiracy.

So there's no text from Enrique Tario saying, hey, this is the day.

This is when we're going to do this.

Like, you guys should go into the Capitol.

We need to stop this vote from happening with any, any, at any expense.

There's nothing like that.

Largely what he was convicted for was not what he did in advance.

It's what he said afterwards.

Something to the effect, hey, you know, I'm proud of you guys.

We did this.

You know, good job.

That kind of stuff.

So

there's a lot more

evidence that could be construed.

And particularly, let's be honest, a D.C.

jury is not hard to convince.

Oh, yeah.

And I can talk a week about just that that alone, having sat through these trials myself, or some of them.

And as a result of that,

and some of these words that he used, I think it was easier to connect him to an implicit plan

than it was for the oath keepers because they had nothing.

I sat there every single day for nine weeks in that trial, watched it.

up close and personal, and the prosecution, the government was losing that case.

Two weeks into that trial, they were getting their butts handed to them by the defense because every single FBI agent, seven or nine of them, testified under cross-examination that they had never seen a written or verbal consideration.

So what the hell happened?

Well,

the government switched gears and they went from the explicit, their effort to convince the jury of an explicit crime, an explicit conspiracy, to they literally switched gears and then started the process of going for the implicit, the implied conspiracy, and literally saying in the trial that it was hatched in the moment on the steps at the Capitol that day because they had nothing, no planning in advance, whatsoever.

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

More and more Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.

Credit card debt is skyrocketing, as is the APR.

That's your finance.

When you have a low

interest rate on any mortgage, that's why you

lock them down.

The reason why people lose their houses and everything else if they haven't locked down their interest rate is when interest rate goes up, so does your bill.

And you know this.

It's your credit card.

If you're using your credit card now,

chances are that you are paying north of 20%

interest.

I mean, that's almost loan shark kind of stuff.

You're getting into really bad interest rates that you'll have a very hard time paying off.

So, why is the interest rate on your credit card going up?

Well, a couple of reasons.

One, I think the credit card companies are,

especially with big purchases, they do not want to be holding the bag.

I have a,

and I only tell you this story because I think it is a marker in time, okay?

And will show you where we are.

I have the American Express black card.

I've had it forever.

It's the Centurion card.

I've had it for, what, 25 years, too?

I built the Blaze on that credit card, okay?

Everything we bought was on my black card.

We have spent...

millions of dollars as a company on that black card.

Okay.

And it has to be paid off every month.

I've never missed a payment.

I've never had a problem.

And literally, I built the blaze on that credit card.

Almost every piece of equipment, every camera, everything

was put on that credit card for two decades.

I go and I try to buy something in

What are you looking at?

Two decades.

The blaze hasn't been around for two decades.

Has it?

God, am I that old?

No, but I've had it it for two decades.

Okay.

So, but you know, when we were building parts of the company, yeah, and when we were building the studios in New York City and everything else, I sorry.

You make me feel old.

Okay, sorry.

So I was in London, and we put our London trip on it.

Now, the thing with a black card is

there's no spending limit.

Okay, you can spend.

I say that about every American Express.

There's no preset spending limit, but that's not true.

Not for me and

the average person.

And

they may call and say, hey, is this you?

did you just put a ferrari on the card yeah they'll call you for certain things i just bought a control room yes it's me okay so but they don't they don't do it they don't do anything so i put my london trip on my credit card it's a normal vacation normal vacation

yeah

i went and bought something in london and

They

let me, they took it.

And then I went to go get an extra suitcase because, you know, we were bringing gifts home and stuff like that.

And my credit card was denied.

And we call American Express and we're like, we're trying to spend like $200

and you're rejecting our card.

Well, you've spent a lot.

Yes, yes, we have.

We went on vacation.

We're staying at a nice hotel.

And yes, we've had nice dinners out and we've spent a lot.

Well, it's getting a little high.

I said, have you,

look at your computer.

Have you seen I bought whole control rooms and everything else on this credit card?

Yes.

Have you also noticed I have an A-plus rating?

I've never missed a payment.

Yes.

So why are you calling me now rejecting the $200 suitcase?

Well, you'll have to make some sort of a payment.

Okay, so wait a minute.

I have this card because I can put everything on it and it's not a problem.

But now because I'm trying to buy a $200 suitcase, you want me to make a payment with my bank with a six-hour time difference and I'm in London.

Not real convenient.

Well, you'll have to make a payment.

Okay, so my wife, how much?

They told us, transferred the funds, done.

Then it's rejected again.

Now I'm standing in line at this stupid suitcase store just like, this is ridiculous.

And it's rejected again the next lady says no you have to pay it all off

I said wait a minute hang on just a second what kind of crappy ass credit card company are you where I put it on a credit card I'm away for two weeks the payment date hasn't even come through

And you want me to pay it off

halfway through the month?

Are you out of your mind?

Why do I have this credit card?

Why don't I just go electronically transfer money to the hotel and everything else?

Well, it's just, you know, we just, it's a little concerning.

Are you kidding me?

Now, here's the thing.

This is why I say this.

I believe that the credit card companies don't want to be holding the bag.

I believe they're jacking up the rates.

They're also

limiting things because they don't want to be sitting there if something goes wrong and they're holding the bag for it.

That's the only explanation I can come up with.

I've never seen anything like that from American Express.

And then you add on the information that these rates are going up for everybody.

For everybody.

And

it's going to get much worse.

So you have the interest rates.

Now, why are the interest rates going up?

The interest rates are going up because of the Fed.

If I hear one more person say, oh, you know what?

I think the Fed's doing a good job.

Are you out of your mind?

They're now playing firefighter to their own arsony or arsonist moves.

What was it?

Arson?

Arson.

Yeah, they were the arsonists.

They set fire.

to everything

and now they come in a truck and you're like, oh, thank goodness they're here.

And what they're doing is trying to

make it so you don't have money to spend.

You don't have a job because the government is spending $2 trillion

in credit.

Okay, you think your credit card's bad?

$2 trillion

on credit.

Okay.

so you can't rein in inflation because somebody who's a bigger spender than Elon Musk is

racking up a bill on our government credit cards every year of $2 trillion.

And no bank is calling them and saying, hey, hey, hang on just a second.

Hang on.

Can you, before you buy that set of luggage, can you make a payment on this?

Nobody's calling the government.

The banks are enabling this.

The rich are getting richer.

The reason why they say, everybody on TV, you know, the economy is doing fine.

No, it's not.

Have you been to a grocery store?

Have you bought eggs and milk?

Have you been to the gas station?

Standing there, what was it, Saturday,

and I look at

$100 to fill my car, and I'm like, are you kidding me?

And everything is fine?

Do you know who's getting rich on gas right now?

Do you know

we punished the

Russians, right?

Because they have to have this money.

Really?

Do you know why oil is now surging?

Right now.

The reason why oil is surging, one of the reasons why you're paying more for gasoline is because the Russians cut back on their supply.

So the Russians are not producing as much as they were, intentionally driving the price of oil up.

The Saudis have joined them in that.

Now, if I'm a country that I depend on oil,

And I gotta sell my oil or I'm gonna be bankrupt, I don't cut back on the supply.

I sell as much as I possibly can.

Especially if Saudi Arabia is going to do that.

Great.

Let them come down, drive it up to $110 a barrel, and then

I'll come in and I'll sell it for $95 or $100 a barrel.

Nope.

Our petroleum reserve is now at the lowest level since 1983.

So we don't have the ability

to just

release a whole bunch of oil.

At the meantime, we are going into

electric cars.

Electric cars.

Electric cars where we don't have the cobalt,

that's in Africa.

But Africa already has those mines and those pits purchased by China.

China has the rest of it.

We are doing things to our own country to kill our own economy.

Trump just came out and said the auto industry will collapse because of these electric vehicles.

They are doubling down on the number of vehicles, but the price is unreasonable.

The price is not something.

Oh, you know, do you see Tesla?

Tesla just came out with, you know, their cars and they're reducing them 25,000.

Oh, so everybody can go out and buy a $75,000 car.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Well, problem solved.

It's also now creating a problem with any environmental benefit that was supposed to come.

New research shows that electric vehicles become eco-friendly after somewhere between 30 and 70,000 miles.

Now, sometimes it's even higher than that, but somewhere between 30 and 70,000 miles is like the break-even point if you care about whatever benefit they're supposed to give.

The problem, though, is that these subsidies are encouraging people to turn over and buy new cars faster.

So they're now buying the car before they even get to the break-even point.

So these families are buying electric vehicles that are environmentalists thinking they're helping, buying new ones thinking they're helping even more.

and actually they're even worse than the fossil fuel car that they left.

Stu,

what was the car of the dictator?

Do you remember there was that little teeny car that was made?

It wasn't the Zill.

It was made in the Soviet Union, and now they're everywhere because they made the body out of something that will not degrade and cannot be reused.

Okay.

I can't remember.

You remember that?

I know what I'm talking about.

I'm a story that we watched.

I have a documentary or something.

And it's this crazy thing.

I think that's what we're going to be with

cars, electric cars.

Because once the battery is out,

what are you going to do?

You're going to spend almost the same amount on a battery to replace all the batteries as you would on a new car?

No, you're going to buy a new car if you can afford a new car.

What happens to all of those batteries?

What happens to them?

Where do they go?

I mean, there's this, there is no thinking at all.

We're going to do a chalkboard tonight.

You will understand the economy, hopefully, in ways you have never understood it before.

You don't want to miss it.

Tonight, 9 p.m., Blaze TV.