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What the hell?

What?

What's that?

What?

Oh my gosh, nothing.

Even the simple things that are not political just don't make sense to me anymore.

Oh, and the ATF has finally closed that gun show loophole.

It's just going to require a little bit more paperwork for you.

Wait until you hear what the ATF is doing.

They are putting together a

national registry,

which Congress has always said no to, is absolutely unconstitutional.

But they're going to do it anyway.

They've already started.

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he got uh what is it uh 37 years right he was a wasn't

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17 yeah 7 i was going to say 15 or 17 17 years um so he's he's got 17 years the guy who burned down a police station burned it down in in, I think it was Minneapolis.

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Okay, so now here is the thing.

there is this gun show loophole you know that stu right huge loophole almost all guns are bought through the gun show loophole loophole yeah unless unless they're made unless they're ghost guns yeah those are the only two types of guns yeah but the kids in the mystery van have already unmasked the ghost gun.

That's true.

And they would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those pesky kids.

So the gun show loophole.

Do you know what it is?

Yes, yes.

The gun show loophole

is when you go to a gun show.

Go Speed Racer.

And there is someone there selling a private seller who is selling.

Go Speed Racer.

Who is selling their guns.

And because they're a private seller, not a business, they are able, they don't have to go through all of the background checks.

Go Speed Racer, go.

You got it.

Okay.

Very small percentage of guns sold there.

That's right.

Very small.

Yes.

Very small.

And basically what he said is absolutely right.

It's a private seller.

So if I have a gun to sell, and I'm not a gun, you know, a gun store, I don't have my license, my FFL,

I can sell my gun, but it's a private transaction between two people.

Okay.

Well,

you now have to prove

that you're not in business looking for profit on your gun.

Now, hang on.

Hang on just a second.

I'm a capitalist, okay?

And I'm looking for profit.

I don't know about anybody else, but I think pretty much everybody, when you go to work, how dare you look for profit when you're at work?

I mean, that's why we go.

Yes.

Okay.

If I have a gun and it's worth more than I paid for,

and I can find somebody that wants to pay for that gun, bro, okay.

I mean, honestly, somebody just called us and said, you want to sell your house?

And I'm like, no.

We live in our house.

Yeah, we live in our house.

And they were like, but you were selling it.

And I'm like, yeah, we were.

And then it didn't sell.

So we remodeled.

And now we love our house.

So, no, we don't want to sell.

Well, what would it take?

I came up with an enormous, crazy, outrageous number.

Okay.

Because you would, in theory, move out if they hit you.

You want to give me a crazy amount of money.

I'm like, I'm out of there tonight, man.

Right.

So, I mean, that's what you're doing.

You're looking for profit.

Are you looking to profit off your home?

Yes.

Yes, I am.

So here's, and I'm not actually looking for it.

If somebody, if you have a gun and somebody said,

man, I just love that.

Would you ever sell it?

Well, I mean, for the right price.

How dare you?

What do you mean, the right price?

You're a businessman now.

Yes, you're a drug seller now.

Yeah.

Okay.

So all of this is happening because

the

2022 new law that was passed, yeah, yeah, it was passed and it is, what is it called?

The,

it's like the really super good and safe law.

I don't have it in front of me here.

But it was a new law passed by Congress to keep us all safe.

Keep it all, I mean, the common sense safety laws, you know.

And basically what it said is the exact same thing.

It says in every piece of legislation now,

the secretary of the ATF, the head of the ATF, can decide on the rules.

We just want you to keep us safe.

And so the ATF has said, oh, okay, well, we're going to keep you safe by closing that gun show loophole, by making sure anyone who ever sells a gun has to prove to us that they're not profiting off of it.

Which is an insane standard.

I mean, how would anyone even prove that?

Insane.

I mean, yeah, you could say, I bought it for this.

And I'm, see, they're like, they're doing, they do this with tickets sometimes, right?

Where you buy tickets and they say you can't sell them for above face value.

Is that the standard they're going to use for this?

I mean,

well, because obviously like a

gun might depreciate after you buy it, right?

So do you have to figure out what the like.

Well, that sounds like you'd be a business.

I mean, honestly.

And that's much more business.

I don't know.

I mean, I looked on the internet.

Probably you could get one for about this price.

You know, I'll sell it to you for a little bit less or a little bit more.

That's what the average person would do.

But if I have to go, well, now, wait a minute, let's really look into it.

Doesn't that make me more of a business?

Seems like it.

Seems like it.

Seems like it.

Okay.

So this is,

I love this.

this is from the atf director an increasing number of individuals engaged in the business of selling firearms for profit have chosen not to register as a federal firearms license licensee as required by law instead they've sought to make money through the off-book illicit sales of firearms they're illicit yeah well yeah of course they are yeah so why wouldn't you just go after the people doing the illicit things if it's already illicit not what illicit means.

Illicit means something else.

Okay.

It doesn't mean that it's illegal.

I guess it doesn't have to be illegal.

I guess it does.

Forbidden by law.

Look it up.

Forbidden by law, rules, or custom.

Okay.

So maybe they could go with a custom.

See, and that's what that's what businesses do.

They do custom things, right?

That's a different usage of that.

Well, okay, Webster.

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So they make money.

So notice

it is clearly, they are clearly going after and saying these people

are trying to make money on the off-book illegal sale, illicit sale of firearms.

These activities undermine the law, endanger public safety, create significant burdens on law enforcement, and are unfair to the many licensed.

I didn't read that before.

And make it unfair to the mini licensed dealer who make a considerable effort to follow the law.

So now they're doing this.

Yeah, because the FFL is so...

They're really working hard to

keep us safe.

They've been vilifying these people who are selling guns for decades.

And now they're the good guys?

For this particular moment?

A crap heap.

ATF has issued rules that would apply more security checks on gun owners and sellers who use unregulated stabilizing braces to effectively transform pistols into more deadly rifles.

So here's what they have to do now.

To be able to enforce this, they have to have a gun registry.

And the ATF has started a federal gun registry.

Can't do that.

Congress has been against that since 1791.

It's constantly, constantly in a new.

They don't care.

This is why you have Congress,

you have the presidency, and the Supreme Court.

All of our problems stem around two things.

One,

Congress has

stopped doing their job.

And I'll tell you why they did it.

Because they just want to be reelected.

That's it.

They don't want to do anything unpopular.

They just want to be the ones that you call up and say, hey, good job.

Or you got to stop these guys so they can be the police.

Except, they're not really the police.

Have you seen Congress actually go after the bad guys in the government?

I haven't.

Have you actually seen them stop really bad things?

Because I haven't.

What they did was say, you know what?

We're going to pass that good and plenty law that everybody should be good and have plenty of everything.

And

we're going to transfer that good and plenty law for interpretation by the secretary of that division of the United States government.

So the cabinet secretary, who the good and plenty law now enables,

he's like, good, okay, I'll tell you how we're going to make everybody good.

We're going to shoot you in the head if you're bad.

I mean, this is obviously an exaggeration, but that's what the secretary can do.

The secretary makes the law and the enforcement and everything else.

That is the job of Congress.

Congress, the reason why we're having these problems is because they didn't want to be held responsible for anything.

They gave up their power.

And they gave it to the administrative state, which now means the presidency, the administrative state, is actually the state.

Congress is just like something you would put in your curio cabinet.

It was something, honestly, I should have all of the members of Congress and the Senate and I should lock them in the American Journey Experience vault.

It's a cute little curio from a time gone by that is no longer of any use.

Let's just put it on the shelf.

That's really what it is.

And the reason why you feel so powerless is because of that.

When I say the ATF director, you know his name.

When I say,

you know, the Secretary of Defense,

do you know his name?

Maybe, maybe, most don't.

He's doing something wrong.

We got to get him out of there.

What power do you have?

What power do you have?

You have the power of Congress going to Congress and say, you got to remove this guy.

Oh, that's happening all the time.

Look at how corrupt and how out of control our government is.

They won't cut anyone's salary.

They won't fire anybody.

They won't hold anybody responsible for anything.

That's why you feel so powerless.

That's why your entire life feels like you're standing in line,

ready to get your driver's license.

And when you get and you've been there for three hours and you get to the front of the line and they're like this window's closed and you're like wait but i hold it you have nobody to go to because

their word is the law

this is what's happening

this is unconstitutional in a myriad of ways this is why we need the reins act and I know this is like,

oh, God, he's talking about the Reigns Act.

Wake me up when he stops.

The Reigns Act gives the power back to Congress.

Why do you want Congress to have that power if they're so bad?

Because

they are so bad, they never get anything done, which allows the states and you to regulate your life.

It allows you in your city to regulate instead of the government saying, Yeah, we're going to put everybody's name on a registry.

By the way, this is so

inflammatory.

They know what this causes.

This causes all kinds of agitation.

This causes all kinds of distrust.

And they're never going to come for guns.

Do you believe they'll come for guns?

They'll actually go door-to-door?

God, I hope not.

Because that's

what

that's what?

What happens?

The worst things possible happen to me.

Okay, good.

Thank you.

He's being very, very careful, which I never am.

That's why he'll be testifying against me at some point.

Oh, I can't wait.

I know.

But you're right.

Americans,

there's 350, almost 400 million guns now.

I think it is 400 million guns.

400 million guns.

We're not Sweden.

We're not Australia.

That ain't going to work.

Americans do know their First Amendment rights.

And you're just never going unless you want a civil war.

So.

If they want to come and get the guns, they are declaring war on the American people.

That's scary.

But I mean, they, like, this is something they say.

They always say, oh, we love the Second Amendment.

What are you talking about?

And then they do this stuff all the time.

You know, the main difference between somebody who does something full-time and somebody who only does it, you know, as a hobby?

Well,

I do this full-time.

Stu looks at his job more of a heart, uh, of a hobby.

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This is a fascinating story from earlier this week, Glenn, that I don't think we touched on.

But if you remember back to the Heller decision, this was the big gun rights decision back in, was it 2008, 2009 in that region.

That allowed guns, you could actually have a gun in your house and you could

a D.C.-based ruling.

Yes.

Now, of course, what do these cities do when they get a bad ruling from the Supreme Court?

They just try to go around it.

They go around the Constitution, around the courts, and pass laws that everyone knows are also unconstitutional

because of the previous ruling, but they do it anyway.

New York is in the middle of doing this as well right now.

with guns.

But so they passed all these laws and they made it very difficult for people to own guns.

One woman, she's Maggie Smith, she's going from North Carolina, she's driving through D.C., gets pulled over

normal stop in 2014 and she has no criminal record.

As she gets pulled over, she tells the officers, by the way, I have my weapon in the car.

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They seize her gun.

They take her to jail.

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When police police asked whether he had a gun in the vehicle, he said yes.

Gave them the combination to the lock safe where he kept it.

Oh my gosh, it was even in a lock safe.

Dragged to prison.

By the way, they lost their jobs, had all sorts of, lost a security clearance in one of these cases.

Finally, this is wound through the courts.

They've complained about this, filed a suit

against D.C., and were awarded $5.1 million this week.

I mean,

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Okay, so the Department of Justice has successfully convinced a jury to convict five pro-life activists for demonstrating at a controversial abortion clinic.

Now, this abortion clinic

is,

there is footage of one of the, I guess, nurses telling this patient that you really got to take the Xanax before you meet with the doctor.

Take the Xanax.

Takes the Xanax.

That is...

the nurse giving this woman Xanax before she goes to meet to give her final decision on abortion.

I don't know.

I don't know.

That seems a little wrong.

You know.

So one of the women, Lauren Handy, she's 28 years old.

She, you know her because she was the one

who came in and said,

hey,

I have a bucket here.

And in the bucket are

babies.

And it comes from this abortion clinic.

And no one did anything.

She She was investigated.

No one did anything about the abortion clinic.

Okay, that's illegal in I don't know how many different ways.

So she went to this clinic and she took John Hin John Hinshaw, he's 67 years old, Heather Idoni, she's 61, William Goodman, 52, Herb Garrity, 25.

They each got a $350,000 fine and now are facing 11

years

in prison.

So let me see if I have this right.

You can beat within an inch of his life

Andy no,

and there's no penalty.

You can riot in the streets, set fire to buildings, no penalty.

One person got

a fine

and four years.

Was it four years

in jail because they burned down a police station?

Four years.

However, if you move a barrier or a fence at the Capitol, you'll get 17 years

because you're a terrorist.

You moved.

a fence.

Now, they say because he was a ringleader moving the fence.

Okay,

what about the guy we have on video that the Department of Justice isn't even looking for

that actually cut the fence and rolled it up on video?

We have it.

Now, he's they're not even looking for him.

Now,

a leading, I'm sorry, leading medical groups

for

OBGYN.

They have just explicitly endorsed abortion without restrictions.

Now, remember, Democrats will tell you,

nobody's asking for that.

Nobody's asking for that.

These are the same people that said it was the Republicans and the conservatives that wanted to reimagine the police and fire all the police.

No, no, no, not true.

Not true.

The OBGYN said abortion is safe.

It improves and saves lives.

It improves

and saves lives.

Lives.

What was it, 60% or was it 80%, Stu, that

of women who have had an abortion, I think it's 80%, said that they would...

They wish they wouldn't have aborted the child if they had some lifeline,

if they had somebody in their life that said, please don't do this,

if they had a way to be able to afford the baby.

So it's not improving their life.

And it's certainly, I mean, you can't say you're saving lives because you're killing.

So even if it does save mom,

it's a wash.

And it must be available, I'm quoting, without restrictions, without limitations and without barriers it's just as critical as any other part of health care

huh that's a that's fascinating

it is commonly used those who say they want

to restrict access

commonly used to strip access to abortion from patients such as

and prevent clinicians from providing people with evidenced-based health care.

Evidence-based health care.

What kind of health care is not evidence-based?

I would say abortion.

You're claiming that's not a baby.

It is.

You're claiming that it, you know, it's not human.

It is.

You're even saying no restrictions, no limitations, so I can kill that baby at the moment of birth.

No, that's not evidenced healthcare.

That's infanticide.

That's murder.

That's what that is.

The vast majority of people do not agree with this.

Vast majority.

What's the number on that, Stu?

For the

almost at birth, no restrictions.

I will say there's polling all over the the place on this issue.

I think the poll you're talking about is

the number was 33% said the abortion was wanted.

43% said it was accepted, but inconsistent with their values and preferences.

24% said the abortion was unwanted or coerced.

So it's 67%

say they had a problem with it later, basically.

Okay.

But I'm asking, I'm sorry.

Thank you for that.

Okay.

I'm at a new number.

Sorry, I was looking up the old number.

I know.

Yeah.

I want a new number.

And you probably know this off the top of your head.

The number of people that are for late-term abortions.

Oh, yeah, it's very low.

Third-term abortion, I want to say it's 14%.

14%.

Yeah, it's about 80% are opposed to it.

When you talk about second trimester abortion, the number against it is, I think, 67%.

So it's overwhelmingly, the only time you see it at all approved is in that first trimester.

And the number is slightly positive.

And apparently,

apparently,

the American College of Obstetricians and gynecologists,

they represent 60,000 OBGYNs

here in America and South America.

60,000, they're fine.

You know, they're fine.

They're fine.

You know, what do people know?

What do people know?

We're doctors.

We know that we can kill the baby

at or just before birth.

No limitations, no barriers.

That's insanity.

Yeah.

I mean, no one really supports that.

So looking at it here,

one of the most recent polls from Gallup.

So 60% approve in the first three months of the pregnancy, only 28% in the second, and only 13%

in the third.

That number has bounced between 8 and 14 for late-term abortion.

But I mean, only

psychotic

abortion supporters believe this.

Even when you talk about pro-choice people, the overwhelming majority of pro-choice people oppose this thing that is central to Democratic policy.

So, and they lie about it every time.

Yeah, they lie about it.

We saw Gensaki and Al Franken both come out the other day and say no one supports this.

And then, of course, it's easy to point out that the dozens and dozens and dozens of Democrats on record, a major, you know,

OBGYN group is now coming out and saying that.

I mean,

and this isn't something we looked up to say, no, Genti is wrong.

This is today's news.

This is today's news.

So they told you yesterday nobody is for it.

Here's major medical groups saying they want unlimited, no-barrier barrier abortions.

And by the way,

when you look globally, every European country looks at this differently than we do.

I mean, basically every single one wants restrictions, more restrictions than we have.

Quite honestly, you know why?

Because we have lost our souls.

Yeah, it's hard not to see it any other way.

You have to, it's the same way I look at people back in the times of slavery.

And you're just like, well, how did you sit here and justify, oh, those people have different color skin.

We should, we should imprison them and make them work on our farms.

I can, it's like, how, how did anyone look at that as possible as an okay thing to do?

I can understand, I don't agree with it, but I can understand

first trimester, you know, 12 weeks below 12 weeks.

I can, I can, I can understand you're like, oh, well, it doesn't really look like a baby yet.

And most of that time, I disagree,

but I can understand your point of view.

Okay.

There is no medical reason

to kill a baby

just before birth.

None.

You're going to have to birth it anyway.

It's not going to stay.

It's just going to be dead.

It's just going to be dead.

It's just a question of whether you want this thing to be alive or not.

That's it.

When you're talking about third trimester, there's really no sane line there.

No.

It's just people who don't want to think about it, which I guarantee was the same thing back in the day with slavery.

Oh, yeah.

They were like,

I don't even think about it.

I guarantee that's how a lot of people felt.

They just didn't want to talk about it.

They didn't want to think about how horrible it was.

It was something they just kind of hoped they never had to really deal with.

Obviously, not, you know, the majority of people didn't have slaves themselves.

It was just a, you know, a law that was around.

And like, well, people just kind of accepted it as part of what we did.

And that's the same thing with abortion.

When you, when people think about it, when you really get them down and ask them, 13% of people support this.

And that's, by the way,

10, 12 weeks before the line the Democrats won, right?

Like the Democrats are saying we want it to the last minute.

The third trimester is a three-month period.

You might include, you might get someone who thinks, I guess in the seventh month, it's okay.

I mean, I think you're crazy, but okay,

that's a different line than someone who's saying six seconds before birth, it's okay.

And that's where the Democrat Party is legally.

And no matter what they tell you, and this is

a blood sport.

This is there, there it is craven it is craven a bloodlust there is you i'm sorry but you cannot go here

and and not see evil on the other side i can understand disagreements i can understand compassion at a certain point you know hey if she was raped or she incest and you know yeah i i understand but i'm not gonna

force my viewpoint on again

i disagree.

It hurts me to disagree with that.

It really does because the compassion side of me kicks in.

And only because I don't know the baby.

That's the only reason why is because you don't see the baby.

You don't think.

You only see the suffering.

At 15 weeks, babies now we now know they feel pain.

So you're going to cut up a baby that feels the pain.

I'm sorry.

It's incomprehensible.

There are incomprehensible.

As you point out, there's nuanced parts of this conversation.

Like, you know, pre-heartbeat is one that's.

The morning after pill is another one.

You don't even know if you're pregnant or not.

There's all sorts of nuanced parts of this conversation.

This is not one of them.

This is not one of them.

It's disgraceful and it's honestly revolting.

And this is happening because too many of us would not

say anything in the past.

This happened, this got here because people, quite honestly, like me in positions like this

failed to say anything because it was controversial.

Nobody wanted to talk about it.

It would hurt the ratings, whatever.

Not the sexiest programming.

Yeah, it's not.

And it would drive people away in droves and may still be doing that.

But it is here because of people like me that failed.

Don't make that.

Don't make that mistake.

We've got to, this is a good time.

We can look at this as a bad time or a good time.

This is a good time.

Evil is becoming so clear that we have to stand up and say something.

And that's the only way things are going to change.

And this is not your fault, by the way.

I know.

It's all of us.

I'm saying I know my part.

I know.

Yeah.

And that's good.

By the way, they're trying to do this to you in Ohio right now.

In November, they're trying to do this to you in Ohio.

It's not a blue state.

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So, Walt Disney,

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They've learned a lesson.

According to Variety,

they have just made

Biden's former national press secretary a vice president of media relations.

Now, why would an entertainment company hire a political guy from this White House.

I mean, the only reason why you would hire somebody from the White House is because you're looking for insight or you're looking for protection or you're looking just what's coming, how do I navigate all of this.

But this guy is going to be responsible for developing the cross-brand messaging and communication strategies for Disney and all of their properties.

Are you kidding me?

Disney, I think within 10 years, Disney could be a thing of the past.

Could happen sooner, could happen a little later.

But if they stay on this path where, you know, Snow White comes out and goes, yeah, that story was crap in the old days.

That's why I'm beer drinking and I'm a guy.

And we got rid of the prince and the seven dwarfs.

They're all tall, skinny.

Nothing wrong with them.

I mean, you know,

except the fact that one of them is heterosexual.

It's over.

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So do you ever go to the range?

Do you ever shoot a gun?

Yeah, occasionally.

Occasionally.

Occasionally.

Are you a good shot?

I would not say that.

Okay.

I mean, I don't say I'm terrible, but for my level of experience, I think I'm all right, but not as good as you.

Definitely.

So

thank you for telling me that.

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Hello, America.

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Vivek, who I really like, have been a friend of the show for a long time.

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Vivek, welcome.

I know we only have a few minutes, so I want to get right into some of these things.

And it might take more than one episode here.

First of all, hello.

And my first question:

Yeah, my first question is: please will you verify that it is vivaic like cake?

That is correct.

Thank you.

Vivek like cake.

Ramaswamy.

Okay.

That one is an easy one.

Go ahead.

Yeah.

Well, I know.

I know.

Well, they're going to get harder from here.

Wikipedia editor alleges that you paid to have your Wikipedia page edited to remove you receiving the Paul and Daisy Soros Fellowship for New Americans and your role in Ohio's COVID-19 response team.

Is that true?

Hang on.

Is that true?

And if it is, why?

So before I ran for president, there were a lot of falsehoods on my Wikipedia page.

And

it was clearly being, and it is actively over the course of this campaign been manipulated by opposition research.

It said things like, at times, me being born in India, my wife, and facts about her that were incorrect, up to and including her name.

And so before I ran, yes, I wanted to make sure that the public was aware of exactly what the right facts were.

The fact of the matter is the Ohio COVID-19 response team wasn't actually ever a formally titled body.

There was a lieutenant governor in Ohio who remains a friend of mine to this day who asked me if he could call me from time to time to get basic advice through the process.

I said, sure, I would.

I helped him with the reopening plan.

That was a short version of the help that I provided him.

So I'm actually proud of that.

You know, when a lot of these states were going through lockdown, there was a path to reopening.

I'm a business guy.

He called me for advice on that.

I was pro-reopening.

And, you know, to this day, people can call him.

I'm sure he would say the same thing.

Did you ever make phone calls about it?

Did you ever

go for lockdowns, mandates?

Nope.

None of that.

Absolutely not.

I've been dead set against it.

And I was a force for good in the state of Ohio here.

John Houstead, I'm sure, would confirm that, who was the person on the receiving end of those phone calls that I made.

Why wouldn't you just have them I mean, because you were on the response team as much as there existed a response team, you did get the Paul and Daisy Soros Fellowship for New Americans.

It's easily findable on the internet.

It's like literally.

But why would you remove those things instead of clarifying them?

Well,

I think the truth is that that headline was itself generated to create this appearance that we're somehow manipulating this.

There was about five other just outright false things.

And you know what?

I wasn't micromanaging what exactly this page is edited or not.

What you want is actually a statement of what's important coming up first in your heading.

So if somebody else has gone out of their way in the early paragraphs of your description to the world at the age of 37, having achieved a lot of things, and then the first thing is some random scholarship you got at the age of 24, that's manipulation.

And one of the things I've learned in this process, Glenn, is there's a lot of left-wing media manipulation, but there's media manipulation 360 degrees, driven by not just fake news media, but a lot of fake establishment candidates, too, who are threatened by my rise.

And literally, Wikipedia, even to this day, it's like a war on my Wikipedia.

No, I know.

Please.

And so my view is we got to just speak the truth.

I've actually been completely transparent about this silly Soros scholarship that's a brother of George Soros, not related to him, at the age of 24, that I want easily Google-able, a generic scholarship that I would have had to have been a fool to turn down at the age of 24 from a guy who's long dead, who's a totally different person from George Soros when I'm in my early 20s.

Okay.

And I don't, I don't cast dispersion on others, but there are other candidates who have gotten a $160 million loan from Soros, others who have been endorsed.

And so, you know, I think that we can play this silly game, but I think it's important that we stick to the facts.

Okay, so it is George Soros' brother, and they are not, I mean, they are related, they're related, but they do not

share the same

outlook on taking over the world,

is my understanding.

Now,

but there is something here that you, when in answering this, you said, I took the money at a time when I was young.

I didn't have a lot of money, but at that time, at 24, I think you were making $2 million a year.

Well, there's a small little fact there.

One is that was the following year that I made it.

So at the time that I applied for the scholarship, I got my first big the first big payday ever I got is actually the year-end bonus that I got the year that I applied for that scholarship.

It wasn't a need-based scholarship.

So one thing I'll say, Glenn, is even if I did have a million dollars post-tax in the bank account, I still would have been a fool to turn down $50,000 of a merit-based scholarship that other kids who are going to Yale Law School were winning.

Whether or not you have that money, I'd still say advise the 24-year-old version of myself to take it.

But I did see that false headline.

How do people know this, Glenn?

It's worth double-clicking on that.

People know this because I released 20 years of tax returns in the early weeks of this campaign, something that no presidential candidate has ever done.

This is unprecedented transparency.

And, you know, of course, no good deed goes unpunished.

But we're actually running this campaign with unprecedented transparency because that's the way we're going to run the government.

So I've published something that, you know, from Trump on down, nobody's ever done it.

Put up 20 years of tax record, someone as wealthy and successful as I've been.

That's against the better advice of advisors.

I said, no, we're going to do that.

Someone then picks on that and says, oh, well, didn't that year you earn it?

You get paid the year-end bonus.

That was the first year I ever made real money.

That was after I had applied for that scholarship.

But I'll always contend with the facts, and those are the facts there, Glenn.

So the next question that's being brought up is the WEF tried to name you as a young global leader.

You were on their website.

You eventually had to sue.

I'm not going to ask this question because it's already been asked and answered on this program, and you can find that on this program.

We went into great detail about it.

And we sued them in one since then is the answer and held them accountable to make sure they would never do it, not just to me, but even people like you, Glenn, or people like Elon Musk or others who have also been opponents that they've tried to name in different capacities.

Well, here's the thing that I...

Here's the thing that I take issue with.

I believe it came from your camp that I was also nominated for some award or something from

Soros or the WEF.

And I can tell you that's not true because, I mean, I would have taken it.

Do I get to go over to the ski lodge?

Face off for that.

Elon, Peter, Keel, a bunch of these other folks have been named on there.

And I thought last time when you and I spoke on the air, you referenced them referencing you in some way.

Oh, yeah, no, their hatred.

Their hatred of me.

Yeah.

Their hatred.

No, it's not a big deal.

I I know.

Anyway,

there's a clip going around recently of you asking Al Sharpton on MSNBC.

People are using this clip to claim that you at least used to be a Democrat.

Were you?

Did you switch?

What made you switch?

Yeah, so I will tell you, I did not come out of the birth canal spouting Republican talking points.

That much is for sure.

So that clip from 2003, when I was 18 years old in my freshman year of college, I wasn't a Republican.

That's for sure.

Now, MSNBC hosted all the Democratic primary candidates.

I said, you know what, I'm going to go check it out.

I asked him a question and I said, hey, why should I vote for you in the primary if you're the least experienced, which is inexperienced, least experienced politicians, which is a funny question and ironic on many levels, considering that I'm an outsider running now.

But the truth is I didn't vote Democrat.

I voted libertarian that year.

You want to know why?

I didn't love George Bush.

I was dead set against many of the George Bush policies.

I was against the war in Iraq at that time, as I am today.

I went on to be against the 2008 bailouts, so I didn't vote for John McCain or Barack Obama.

I was disillusioned, Glenn, from both parties.

And so in that election in 2004, I voted for the libertarian candidate because I couldn't stand John Kerry or George Bush.

I came to my views, and I was disillusioned from politics for most of my 20s.

Obama, McCain, Obama, Romney, even.

I didn't find these figures inspiring.

But I came to my views through my experiences, Glenn.

When I was a biotech CEO, when I had to make or was supposedly forced and I refused to do it, to make a statement on behalf of Black Lives Matter while I'm developing medicines that are saving people's lives and I refuse to do it, and that puts me in a difficult position in my industry as a leader, those are the kinds of experiences that shaped my vehemence in crusading first, not even in politics, but against this trend of woke capitalism and stakeholder capitalism and ESGs.

They separate business from politics.

That's where I began, not in partisan politics.

And even now, I'm not a party man, Glenn.

I'm using the Republican Party as a vehicle to advance a positive nationalistic pro-American vision for this country.

And so, you know, if people want somebody who was born in Republican jerseys and talks in Republican talking points, I'm not their guy, and I wasn't at the age of 18 either.

I'm somebody who thinks independently.

I'm a patriot who cares about this country and speaks the truth.

And you know what?

If I'm 18 years old and I'm exploring in college, yes, if there's a forum where somebody who disagrees with me, Al Sharpton shows up, I'm going to go up, show up, ask questions.

And yes, I did vote libertarian.

That you're guilty as charged.

That's just part of who I am, and people should know it.

I need to know because I respect your time, and I did this with Donald Trump, and I had to leave questions on the table, but we'll have you back.

Do I have two more minutes with you?

Or

I actually reserved 20 minutes for this.

Okay, okay.

All right.

So

let me go back to this.

In 2016, you not only were against Donald Trump, but you actually made donations to somebody who is viriantly anti-Trump, a friend.

Let me just correct you there on 2016.

I was not anti-Trump.

I just didn't vote in 2016 because I was deeply jaded and skeptical of all politicians.

As I told you, heading into then.

I judged based on results, and he delivered for this country, and I voted with him with pride in 2020.

So

you gave $2,700 to ask.

I'll tell you what that was.

Yeah, so I had no idea who this individual was.

She's in the biotech industry and you know I'm a biotech CEO, right?

I'm invited by the biotech industry association's head of a friend of a friend saying there's this doctor who's running for Congress.

Would you come?

They dragged me out to a fundraiser.

I showed up, stayed as long as as minimal time as I could, but that was the entry ticket to go in.

I frankly regret doing it just because it's raised so many questions afterwards.

I wasn't plotting to be a politician back then.

But the fact of the matter is, if you're a CEO, you get dragged around a lot of fundraisers in New York City.

That was one I got dragged into, and the ticket price is one that I wrote to get in.

So that's the long and the short of it.

I think of, I couldn't even tell you the name of the person, who it was.

Okay.

In the debate, you said that Trump was, quote, the greatest president of your lifetime.

I said the 21st century is what I said.

Okay, all right.

21st century.

That's why I thought it for a lifetime because Reagan was also during my lifetime.

Okay.

Greatest president in the 21st century.

If he's so great,

why bother running against him?

Well, look, this is a good question, Glenn.

And I believe I can take the America First agenda further because I've got fresh legs, because I hope to God that my best days are still yet ahead of me.

I can see a country whose best days are still yet ahead of itself.

And look at the way we're running this campaign, Glenn.

This can't be a 50-point-one election.

I am the only candidate in this race who can win in a landslide.

We've gone to the south side of Chicago.

We've gone to Kensington in the middle of the inner city of Philadelphia.

We're bringing young people, Glenn, along in droves.

I have over 100,000 small-dollar donors in this campaign.

40% of them, more than that, are first-time ever donors to the GOP.

Many of them are young.

And so for so many reasons, this cannot be a razor-thin margin.

Unlike many people, I actually do believe Donald Trump can defeat Joe Biden, but I think it'll be razor-thin and tight.

And I think it is dangerous for this country if we get to a place where CNN and MSNBC are trotting out the winner the Monday after the election.

This can't be one of those.

This has to be a Reagan 1980s-style moral mandate.

I think I'm the only person who can deliver that by bringing young people along, leaving no state, no city left behind, no American left behind.

A multi-ethnic working-class coalition is what we're building.

And I will take Trump as my most important advisor and mentor in that first year in the White House.

I'm convinced of that.

And I think that's the relationship I'd like to have with him as we leave this country.

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I hate to do that.

Or do you have to go?

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Vivek, I'm going to ask that we have you back at some point because I have more questions and I want to make sure that you have a fair hearing and that the tough questions are asked of you.

Here's one I want to be very delicate on, and this is my...

my question.

Sure.

You know, I was in Iowa and I saw people know, react to you, and they reacted really well.

What you may not have seen was afterwards, I asked some of the leaders and I asked people that watched and they said this, I love him, but he doesn't have a chance because he's not Christian, and I don't think people are ready for a Hindu

president.

You are going to have pushback, if you don't already, from Christian groups that may not, or they'll sit out.

You can't lose the Christian vote.

You say you believe in the same one God,

but that's not Hindu.

So, Glenn, what I've said is we share the same value set in common.

My faith is there is one true God.

And yes, that is Hindu.

There are many branches of Hinduism, Catholicism,

Evangelical Christians in the Christian tradition.

There are many branches of Hinduism.

The one I've been raised in, and it's a widespread mainstream view, is one true God.

That's my worldview.

But more importantly, this is a Judeo-Christian nation founded in Judeo-Christian principles.

This is the fact of history.

I think we need a commander-in-chief who shares those values in common.

And as somebody who has been educated in Christian high school, has, if I may say it, Glenn, myself, read the Bible most more closely than most of my Christian friends, I can say with certitude that we share the same value set in common of sacrifice, of duty, of a belief that God put each of us here for a reason, that we're here for a purpose, that there's more to life than just the aimless passage of time.

Think about the common thread from the Old Testament to the new.

God told Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac.

He didn't make him follow through with it.

In the New Testament, God sacrificed his own son.

That value of sacrifice, that is woven into the fabric of this country.

It is woven into my own upbringing and value set, the same values we raise our two sons in.

And I think, Glenn, especially because I'm a little bit different, I'm a little younger.

I'm the youngest candidate to run.

I'm of a different generation.

Yes, I'm of a different faith nominally.

I think I'm in a better position to defend religious liberty, to actually make concepts like faith and patriotism and hard work and family cool again, actually, for the next generation of Americans.

I take that responsibility seriously.

So, no, I'm not qualified to run for pastor.

I can't.

That wouldn't make any sense.

But when I'm running for commander-in-chief, the question is, do we share the same value set that this nation was founded on?

In my case, the answer is yes.

We live our life accordingly.

And the standard I want everyone, including every Christian in this country, to hold me to is, do I want my two sons to grow up and be like him?

Whoever that is in the White House.

I think that's a standard we should apply.

If we're being really honest, it's been a long time, at least I'll speak for myself, where we've had a president where I could, without without holding my nose, tell my kids the same two things.

And I think a lot of Christians across this country would say the same thing.

Vivek.

That's the standard that I'll ask to be held to.

Vivek Ramaswamy, I'd love to have you back.

I've got some questions on China and everything else, but thank you so much for answering these questions.

You bet.

Vivek Ramaswamy, Vivek like cake.

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That was a

fascinating conversation, I thought.

I wish we had more time

to go deeper because I had a few follow-up questions on each of those things.

But we just had Vivek like cake.

Okay,

like cake.

People are saying it, Vivek, Vivek, so much that I even started to question myself.

That's why I led with, please verify,

Vivek like cake.

Yes, that's it.

You knew this because you've had him on long before he was running for the moment.

And I asked him, and he said vivek like cake.

Exactly.

And we had him on.

It's interesting to see him kind of explode onto the national scene after having a long experience with him before this.

Like, we knew this guy.

And like, he's got a, look, you might not like him.

You might not think he's old enough to be president.

You might not like some of the policy proposals he puts out there.

But look, he's number one, he's really good at this.

I mean, we've seen candidates over the years who have tried to communicate conservative principles and have done, they haven't done one tenth of the job that Vivek Ramaswamy does on this stuff.

He's really good at this stuff.

He's good at running for president.

He's going to be

difficult to deal with in every one of these debates for these other candidates.

And the other thing is he really does have something to add to this conversation.

He does come from a different perspective.

He's a smart guy who does have a lot to add to this conversation.

Whether you think he should be president of the United States is another story.

You might like Trump better.

You might like DeSantis better.

You might think he, you know, he's too young.

There's a million things you can come up with.

But like, I would love to get to a point where

primary season wasn't the dumbest season, where every single time you disagree with somebody who you disagree with on 95% of stuff, you have to freak out with and call them communists or fascists or whatever.

It's like

we have a wide menu of candidates candidates that go from very, very conservative to libertarian leaning to

very moderate.

And that's a good thing.

Look at these people and make a decision based on what they're doing and what they say they want to do with the country.

And you don't need to be, you don't have to treat everybody who likes another candidate like, you know, we're in the middle of the Cold War.

I have to tell you, I don't think that there was a single person on that stage.

Well, except for the guy from South Dakota, North Dakota, because I just don't know anything.

You don't know anything about it.

He has a good record as governor.

He's very popular there.

I don't know.

I'll have to look in.

Okay.

But anyway,

I'd vote for any of them.

I don't.

There's many that I don't.

I don't want to vote for ASA.

I really don't want to vote for Chris Christie.

But I will vote for them as opposed to anyone that is a part of what is happening right now.

They are the other ones will just give us more time, maybe four more years.

But at that same time, unless this is what is at stake this particular election, I believe.

We are deciding right now whether what George Bush told me in the Oval Office 2005,

6, somewhere in that area,

he said.

It was the day Barack Obama said, I just fly jets into Pakistan and I bomb Pakistan.

And I thought, that's not good.

That's an ally right now.

That's not good.

And I said that to the president and he said, to try to reassure me, he said, Glenn, don't worry.

No matter who sits behind this desk, they'll have the same advisors, the same advice, and they'll realize they don't really have any other choice than this one.

And I walked out going, that was terrifying.

Why do we have a president then?

Didn't make you feel better?

No, it didn't make me feel better.

And this is what Donald Trump did.

He said,

yeah, I've seen what you guys have advised us into.

And no, thank you.

I'm going this way.

We are deciding whether, and the three that I think would actually make a difference.

And I'm not,

I want you to know, I trust you to make the decision.

I have my own opinions.

I'll know who I'm going to vote for in the end, and I'll vote for them just like you do.

I don't want to influence your decision.

I just want to bring you the information because I trust the American people.

So

I look at these guys.

I'd vote for any of them, but

there's three of them that I would go, yeah, okay.

Be happy to pull the lever.

And

all of them have one thing in common.

They are challenging the system, the entire system.

Now, whether they actually get in there and do it and close the Department of Education, I don't know.

I didn't think Donald Trump would ever make Jerusalem the capital of Israel officially.

I never thought that would happen, but he did.

And

the only thing that changes our course and gets us off the course of total destruction is one that cleans house in the administration.

A president who becomes all-powerful,

you know, makes his administration even more powerful,

does not help us at all because the next one that gets in, just going to, you know, reverse all of the edicts and everybody in the administrative state will fight against that president like they did with Donald Trump.

So we are deciding right now, are we going to rebalance the power and put the power of lawmaking back into the hands of Congress where it belongs?

Get rid of this all-powerful state.

And I do want a powerful president, but I want a powerful president that deals with the administrative state.

That's his realm.

The president needs to say, gone, these are gone.

I'm firing these people.

Now, I don't know if we can, I mean, that's, you know, you have to fill probably

four to 10,000 jobs as a president.

I don't know if you can fill all those people without having bad people get in.

It can be very difficult.

Very difficult.

And look, I think, you know, Ramaswamy has his strong points.

I think he'd probably be pretty good at putting together an organization like that.

He's done it, obviously, in the private sector as well.

It's hard.

It's hard, though.

But, I mean, again, I think it's hard for any of them.

He doesn't have the background of

thinking about government all the time and having all those relationships.

Probably a good thing, as maybe a lot of people would argue that Donald Trump had that going in.

But you look at Ramaswamy and you say, okay, he's the type of candidate.

I think he's good enough at this as far as running for president.

Like, I thought his debate performance was actually weaker than i thought it would be knowing him because he was a little obnoxious he was a little yeah a little over the top a little maybe a few too many red bulls before the event you know like he wanted to i think he was so worried about i need to make an impact because no one knows who i am right that he came out essentially loud and tried to do that yes and he didn't realize that all the other candidates apparently decided they were going to come after him.

So it made it very easy.

I've talked to a couple people who said,

I kind of found him annoying in the debate.

But when I've I've seen him in interviews since and said, you know, I really like him.

He's really smart.

He's really quick.

And there's a lot to like there.

On the other hand, like we have to get to a point where we can look at these people and say, hey, let's say Donald Trump wins the president.

He's obviously the heavy favorite to win the nomination.

Let's say he becomes president.

Like someone like Vivek would have something really important to offer to that administration.

We don't need to make them into the enemy.

That's why I don't like the feud between DeSantis and Donald Trump.

Yeah, but

stop it.

Don't do that.

We need each other.

Like, you have to be able to criticize someone you're running against for president.

You should be able to say, but not destroy them.

I had this problem with Donald Trump's administration.

Trump should be able to say, I have this problem with the way DeSantis has run Florida.

Like, that should all be on the table.

It gets idiotic this time of year because everyone gets on their teams.

And like we, I saw some of this, Glenn, in reaction to your Trump interview, actually, because people who like maybe DeSantis or like like Vivek were like, well, you didn't go hard enough on Donald Trump.

Why did Glenn, you know,

your interview, I think

you'd say this, was much more difficult on Vivek than it was on Trump.

Now, you went harder on Vivek because that's what I was going for.

Right.

Donald Trump, first of all, anyone that can navigate nine minutes with Donald Trump and get four questions in,

you belong in the Radio Hall of Fame.

Okay.

You don't have any idea what it's like to have nine minutes and four questions

and you're talking to Donald Trump.

I got four questions in.

And I didn't go hard.

I mean, I thought I asked him

some really

revealing questions.

They weren't tough, but they were not softballs.

Hey, how'd you feel about the bad guys?

Wasn't that.

However, I saw a line.

A lot of people are saying, you weren't tough on Donald Trump on COVID.

Well, for two reasons.

One, I've already done that in an hour-long sit-down with him.

You've already done that interview.

I've done that interview, and I'll do that again because I think there's some follow-up on it.

But when you have the President of the United States in the news for being booked, the first one to be booked, and it's the next day, That's the topic of nine minutes, of the things that come off of that.

I will ask him more about Fauci and COVID, but I also am more interested in

what is he going to do in the future.

Now that you see

what happened to you.

what happened to the country.

If there was ever another pandemic, what would you do?

Would you ever do those things again?

Where did it go wrong?

And he seems to be saying the answer to that would be no.

I mean, he's saying we will not comply with these regulations that a lot of people point out.

He was very supportive of many of them at the time.

Right.

And look, those are fair, but that's the type of thing that a primary is for.

Like, we talk about conservative principles all the time.

It's easy to say conservative principles are better than what Joe Biden is doing.

The interesting part of this process is to be able to look at each individual's approach to these things

and try to decipher which one you think is best.

And, you know,

blood sport.

Not just that.

If you can trust people.

If you can trust them.

If you can believe them.

Do they have the record necessary to, you know, to earn your support?

You know, people like to be, I don't like the idea talking about loyalty when you're talking about your vote.

They need to earn your freaking vote.

Every one of these guys needs to go out there, including, you know, and ladies, Nikki Haley, has to go out there and earn your freaking vote.

It's not theirs to lose.

It's yours to give.

And so looking at this process as something where you are able to keep your mind open and listen to these people and not make it seem like it's, you know, Eagles, Cowboys, that's not how this should feel.

It should feel like you're trying to understand which one is better.

Obviously, in the Eagles, Cowboys example, the Eagles are better.

And

I will tell you, we have great candidates.

And America, I think conservatives know that.

We're seeing

just in

not research, just reading

views from our chats

at Blaze TV and reading things that people write.

We've never seen our audience more well balanced in a primary ever.

Yeah, really interesting.

Really interesting.

I've never seen a candidate who has divided the audience like Vivek has.

What does that mean?

I've never seen as close to a 50-50 split of people who love the guy and hate the guy.

And it's fascinating to me because.

Don't you think that was that way with Cruz and

I don't think it was 50-50.

You know, it was our audience was overwhelmingly pro-Cruz during the primary.

And when that was over, when the primary was over, they became, they got on the board with Trump and said, hey, we're, we're, we're very big fans of Trump.

You know, even with Donald Trump, there was always a split on Donald Trump and a passionate split and continues to this day.

Though at this point, it's overwhelmingly positive for Donald Trump, as opposed to at the beginning, it was overwhelmingly negative.

That is switched.

The vape comes right out of the chute.

And I feel like half the people love him and half the people don't.

Like they,

if he can get that number to 70, 30, he can win.

I mean, general population.

You're not doing anything if you're liked by everybody.

You're just not doing anything, at least not doing enough to be able to save the Republic.

You know, you've got to have opposition in all things.

So

it'll be interesting to watch.

But I want your continued input and advice because all I want to do is ask the questions that you want asked and answered.

And not just from the opposing point of view, but also to highlight the strengths of each of these individuals.

I'm trying to give a balanced look at each person.

And

persuade your overlords that you are on their side.

Oh, yeah, of course.

Absolutely.

Sure.

I mean, George is calling me a little wild.

I just don't know if it's Bush or Soros, but one of them is calling me.

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I mean, that is, thank you.

Thank you.

If you go into one of those abandoned houses, you never know what's around

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Here in Florida, they might have a gun.

Be careful.

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By the way, you could tell by the fact that there's no coverage of this hurricane and what the response was that it must have gone really well.

Yeah.

Because we haven't heard word one about it.

And Joe Biden is, all of a sudden, he's taking a real interest in this one.

He's going down there to check on.

Embarrassing.

It's really bad.

Really bad.

Well, that's what campaign season is all about, I guess.

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Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky,

81,

had another public freezing episode on Wednesday.

We talked about this.

Kentucky, it's up to you.

You've got to stand up and just say, come home, come home.

His attending physician said in a statement that the senator is medically clear to maintain his schedule.

I've consulted with Leader McConnell and conferred with his neurology team.

After evaluating yesterday's incident, I have informed Leader McConnell that he's medically clear to continue his schedule as planned.

Quote, occasional lightheadedness is not uncommon in concussion recovery.

He wasn't lightheaded.

He was having a neurological event.

We are all very, very clear on this.

My gosh, what these people won't do?

That's incredible.

It's amazing that anyone would believe that.

Look, it's obviously he's had serious, serious problems.

And, you know, people are like, oh, well, he just had this concussion because he fell down.

That's part of it.

That's part of what happens when you get old.

When things go downhill, you have falls that cause more problems.

And then you try to rehab from that and then new problems appear.

This is why getting old is very difficult.

Right.

It's like, you know, you're, you're 35 years old.

You go in and you can have pneumonia, bad pneumonia, and you're fine.

You go in at 70, you have bad pneumonia, it'll kill you.

It's a good shot.

It kills you because it starts, everything starts to decline.

And when you hit those things, you break a hip.

Some people don't ever really fully recover.

You get a concussion.

It's not like even if he fully recovered, he's 81.

He's 81.

I mean, he's not going to come back and be like, you know what?

I feel 30 again.

He's not.

And this is not an Aegis thing.

This is, would you give him, in that condition, would you give him the keys to your car?

Absolutely not.

Why not?

Because he would crash it.

And hurt himself.

And others.

Or others.

Okay?

And

or others.

Why would we give him the keys to our future?

You don't think that a mistake can happen?

You don't think...

I mean, the guy, you're in serious negotiations.

I mean, think of the room that he's in.

He's there with Feinstein and

Fetterman.

Fetterman and the president, and he's got to be thinking on his feet.

My gosh.

It would just be silent, maybe for an hour.

It could be.

And look, this is not an anti-Mitch McConnell sentiment.

I have plenty of problems with his policies and the way he does business.

But I will tell you, the people who look like they might take over for him if he leaves leadership are as bad or worse.

So I'm not necessarily, this is not about a policy change or I don't like Mitch McConnell.

It's sad.

Like, it's sad when people go through this.

And it's really sad when they go through it publicly.

But don't you have something else you want out of your life?

Like, I just don't understand this constant lust to hold on to power.

Don't you want to spend time with your family?

Is there anything more important than being into another freaking committee meeting?

Like, is there nothing else you want out of life?

I mean, I know we're self-deluded a little bit and overstate our importance, but you know, I know how important this job is.

Maybe too much.

You know, maybe I like, yeah, you were.

yeah, um, but

we know we have a job to do, but honestly, if it comes down to it, my family comes first.

Yeah, my family comes first.

I love you guys, but you lose, yeah, you lose, and you would understand that, and you would say the same to us, yes.

So that's the way it's supposed to go, right?

And like, this is a grandpa, maybe a great-grandpa who's got how many years of mobility left?

I mean, seemingly almost none.

He's falling over and having concussions.

That's so sad.

Why wouldn't you, why would you claw and hold on to power instead of doing something that you can actually, this is the end of your life.

I mean, I hate to tell everybody this.

We all die.

I know.

I got to tell you, you know, I've been saying here recently, you have 4,000 weeks.

Your life is 4,000 weeks for the average life.

That takes you to about 76.

Okay.

Average person.

4,000 weeks.

I'm down to under 1,000 weeks left.

Okay.

Good God, it's terrifying.

It's terrifying.

Thousand.

And I don't want to be terrified.

I just want to get, I want to start checking the boxes.

Yeah, do things that you enjoyed that you think are important.

Yesterday, I went and I watched my son's first college football game

as a coach.

And it didn't go well, but

it's a turnaround team.

Yeah.

You know, turnaround year, the all-new coaching thing going on.

Yeah, rebuilding.

But it was the greatest thing.

It was the greatest thing to stand there and see him, you know, with his coaching stuff.

And he like, it's like crazy.

It's incredible.

I'm there and I get,

Tanya gets a text message said, you have to see this.

This is dress rehearsal

for opening night for my daughter, who is in Oliver.

And I listen to this like 30 seconds.

I listen to this and I'm like, what the who?

What?

Listen to this.

I

destroy

that people's sky are

God.

I want the sky to true

child.

What?

Her father.

How long ahead?

What is that?

Whose child is that?

It's not my child.

What?

How is that possible?

Yeah, her opening night is happening at a place called Artison.

And I mean,

and honestly,

I really feel like I have important things left to do, at least for me.

But if my daughter said to me, Dad,

I just need you by my side, gone.

I'm gone.

My son, my two other daughters, gone.

Gone.

I'm going to prioritize that over everything else.

Especially at my age.

I mean, I'm still relatively young.

I'm not in good shape, but I'm, you know, 59.

Yeah, the 4,000 weeks is for an average health individual.

That's not you.

I've got maybe 10 minutes.

10 minutes.

So let me take this 10 minutes and share something that I think is really important.

I want you to listen to what Tucker Carlson just said on the Adam Corolla show,

talking about what he thinks is coming.

Listen to this and the conviction of this statement.

So they can't lose.

They will do anything to win.

So how do they do that?

They're not going to do COVID again.

I know everyone on the right's afraid they're going to do COVID and mask mandate.

They're not going to do that.

They can't do that.

If they've already been exposed, that won't work.

There's going to be, no, what are they going to do?

They're going to go to war with Russia is what they're going to do.

There will be a hot war between the United States and Russia

in the next year.

And on the

yes, of course, they want it anyway.

I don't think we'll win it, but that's a separate analysis.

But I think it's a political matter, they need to declare war footing in order to assume war powers in order to win.

I believe that.

And I think the evidence suggests that's true.

So if you're worried about our politics getting like even more vicious than it already is and people being hurt in our politics, which is entirely possible, you should be worried about the prospect of an open war.

We're already at war with Russia, of course.

We're funding their enemies.

So we're fighting Russia, but I mean, an open battle with Russia, where we say we're at war with Russia.

I think that could easily happen.

You know, I think we could Tom can engulf our way into it where all of a sudden missiles land in Poland.

The Russians did it.

Our NATO allies been attacked.

We're going to war.

I could see that happening very easily.

So if you're worried about that, you need to put as much pressure as you possibly can on the Republican-held Senate to force a peace, which can be done.

The United States could force a peace in Ukraine tonight.

We're funding one side.

There is no Ukrainian army outside of NATO.

If NATO withdrew its support for Ukraine, Ukraine would crumble in a day.

So we are the only power in the world that can bring both sides to the table to force a peace, which will be unsatisfactory as all forced peaces are.

Like each side will give more than it wants, but that's the only option.

Otherwise, I would bet my house on it.

We are going to war with Russia.

And of course, the stakes are

everything, our life on the planet.

I mean, these are the two biggest nuclear arsenals in the world facing off against each other.

Wow.

Okay.

I really like Tucker.

I really hope he's wrong.

I hope he's wrong.

I hope I'll take Max Van Damme

for a friend of mine to be a shill for Putin more than right now.

You know what I mean?

It's like, I really like him, but I want him to be so wrong.

Maybe he's just hanging out with Putin.

Maybe that's it.

Yeah.

I mean, it's,

you know, but it is, it is what I told you before

Trump lost the election.

I said, here's what's coming.

And we've done all of them except for the last one.

War.

I said, war will come.

And that's when it's lights out.

That's when it all changes.

And that's the way it always works.

I mean,

that's what Neil Howe said to us

on Monday's show, the guy with the fourth turning.

He's like, it's war.

And the way he's talking there, you know, I do believe that, that this administration wants this war.

We've seen it.

They keep doing the things that Russia keeps saying that's a red light.

They're doing the things that they said would cause World War III.

And

I mean, I just, I pray that is not true, but man, I don't put it past people.

Yeah.

I don't put it past people.

People forget whether, let's just say they don't want this, they don't want war, they're sane in some way.

They're also incredibly incompetent.

Like they're really bad at this.

And so whether they want it or not, I'm terrified of them slipping into it in a way that they're not even intending.

You know how that is.

You know how they said that Russia is backed into a corner because they don't have the troops, they don't have the missiles, et cetera, et cetera.

Yeah, they do.

They have enough, but if they're backed into a world war, they will result to even tactical nukes.

Okay.

They said they would.

Tactical nuke is still a nuclear weapon.

Okay.

The other side is us.

If we're losing a war and it means we use

the worst of the weapons, but it means the saving of the Republic, you don't think we would use them?

We don't have the shell.

We don't have just even the howitzer shells now.

We don't have the people.

to be able to run our army on, you know, what?

At least one front.

You think that's where it would end?

It would be a two-front war in a heartbeat, in a heartbeat.

I think what he's talking about here, because people who are more in favor of the Ukraine war than Tucker is or you are, a lot of times will say, well, what are you going to do?

Just let Russia roll over Ukraine?

You know, look, that would be ugly.

And they would do it.

And there'd be a lot of dead children, right?

Like all, it's, that's true.

That being said, what we're arguing for, I think, here, correct me if I'm wrong, is a third option.

It's a third option, right?

I don't want that to happen at all.

I don't think, like, I look, I think Ukraine has a real beef on what's gone on with Crimea and what's gone on in this war.

This is not, they're in the right on that, I believe.

But all that being said, our priority as the United States of America needs to be avoiding World War III and mutually property.

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I mean, you know, Joe Biden can relate to anybody.

You know, you've lost your house in a fire.

He almost lost his kitchen.

Same exact thing.

You lost your son at war.

His son, for some reason, was in a flag drape coffin coming back after he died from

cancer in a hospital here in America.

But why quibble?

And now,

Florida, talking to victims about the hurricane, he can relate.

Listen.

I didn't know anything like that, but lightning struck my house.

We had to be out of that house for about seven months.

I was repaired because so much damage was done to the house, and half the house almost collapsed.

Wow.

Lightning struck.

It almost collapsed the house out for seven months.

This guy is never at his house.

He's never at his house.

between the kitchen fire and the lightning strike.

I mean, he's not even at his house when his son is

chatting people in China that he is in the house.

Yeah, this crazy.

We find out that he's not in the house.

He's not in the house.

Not in the house.

Incredible how that works.

And remember, you kind of brushed over that whole thing where he, you know, where he had the kitchen fire.

He almost lost his Corvette in that incident.

His classic Corvette.

Just a second.

I know he didn't lose a child.

But you're saying the Corvette.

Was it steak?

Yeah.

And this is a, you know, I mean, I don't know about you, but a but a 1971 Corvette, I'd lose my children like that over a Corvette.

It's obviously more important, you know, from a collector's perspective.

And he didn't have fire suppression or like really good security around that vet.

Apparently not.

Wow.

Yeah, it was close call.

What is he thinking?

It was a close call.

It really was.

I mean,

I keep my vet

in a play.

I keep it in a vault because, not not because of the secret documents that I have, you know, all around, just laying around next to the Corvette in boxes, but just in case lightning strikes, you know, I want to make sure that it's safe.

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There's seven of them.

There's two just on January 6th.

Four indictments, and then the other three are civil trials.

There's seven trials.

Yeah.

So, I mean,

he's got quite a calendar.

He does.

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Well,

CNN has a new CEO.

He used to be with the BBC.

And the good news is he was the guy that was in charge of the BBC

that nicks the investigation segment about the pedophile Jimmy Saville,

who is a big,

big, big, big, big star in England.

He was like a...

For a long time, he was like the number one disc jockey on BBC

and became huge charity guy and was, you know, helping them build children's hospitals.

And

the BBC finds out,

he's molesting the children in the children's hospitals.

And they nixed the profile.

The investigative report, they said, no, we're not reporting on that.

The guy who made that decision is now running CNN.

Oh, I did not realize that.

Wow.

I mean, because he goes back to the Times.

He was at the New York Times for a while.

He was at the BBC.

Yeah.

You know, he's, I was talking to Steve Krakow yesterday, who covers the media, you know, wrote a book about it.

And he was saying the guy's known as sort of like more of a businessman.

Like he's not known as a guy who's making major editorial decisions.

We'll see how if that holds or not.

But if he's making decisions like that, it feels like that's the type of thing you do once and you never get another job, let alone the leadership job.

Like they're like, I'm sorry, you can't can't work at Nathan's Hot Dogs.

That's not your camp.

I'm sorry.

Your judgment is way too poor.

We would be using our product and we'd always be thinking about you and Jimmy Saville, and we just don't want anything to do with it.

The Federalist has been punished.

Again,

they will not address

anything.

Anything.

Apparently, Instagram has slapped a false label on a report that

was exposing the 14 American cities that are part of C40.

And that is the, you know, the group of mayors that have said, you know, one of our, I want to get this exactly right.

One of our

one of our big plans or our aggressive goals.

Yes.

Aggressive goals that we've signed on to is that you have zero meat eaten in your city.

Zero meat.

This has,

this is, in their words, a desired goal.

And they keep getting fact-checked on this as

that's not meaning that they want to get rid of meat.

What do you desired?

Desired goal.

Desired goal.

I mean, it's like, my desired goal is to be number one in the ratings.

Well, no, that's not what he wants.

He doesn't want to do.

What are you talking about?

He doesn't want to be number one.

No, of course not.

No.

And he wants to be last.

What?

Because I think their line was it wasn't a formal policy proposal.

Yes.

Right.

Like it was just a goal that they wanted.

Yes.

And they didn't necessarily identify exactly how they would get there, et cetera, which is a really stupid distinction.

Yeah.

It is a distinction without a difference.

It's an ambitious target.

Yeah.

An ambitious target means your goal.

It means a desired goal.

And if you miss the target, you're at least in the area.

You're going in that direction, right?

It's just crazy.

I think we use this analogy at the time, but it's like, if you tell your wife, like, look, I have an ambitious target to hook up with our babysitter.

I don't have a formal policy.

I didn't ask her out on a date.

Right.

You know, she just, look, when she comes over, you know, it's my target.

Yes, it's an ambitious target.

She might not even go along with it, so it might not happen.

Right.

But, you know, that's generally speaking what I want to do.

And I want you to know I'm working towards that.

I mean, I'm putting in place different restrictions and everything else for you, for her to be here when you're not.

Right.

Like when, for example, when she's not even watching the kids, I just have her come over.

But how dare you?

But that's not a youthful policy.

Oh, my God.

It's just like so ridiculous.

If you're the woman in this situation, you might have questions about such behavior.

Yeah.

So, Marcy.

As we should.

Marcy Parker Darwin has announced that Peanut,

her chicken, has just turned 21, which makes Peanut the Chicken in Michigan the oldest chicken in the world that we know of.

We know of.

21.

Because a lot of them don't get carted.

I know.

I know.

Yeah,

but Peanut can drink and drink.

Can drink.

So that's good.

You got to give Peanut a beer, don't you?

I will.

On his 21st birthday.

You got to do it.

Oh, man.

Peeta is going to be all over you for just even suggesting that as what you claim to be a joke.

It'll give me a vegan beer.

It's okay.

Yeah.

So there you go.

So 21-year-old chicken in Michigan.

The happy birthday to Peanut.

Happy birthday.

Here's another story.

California woman.

Now, I want you to listen to this and tell me what sticks out to you.

Okay.

California woman, known for her involvement in a failed multi-million dollar horse show that made headlines a decade ago, has been charged with trying to hire somebody to kill her husband.

Hmm.

Okay.

I have questions already.

Okay, what are the questions?

What

failed multi-million dollar horse show?

Here, let me give you the headline.

The headline is: Woman behind the infamous,

okay, which implies that we should know about

woman behind the infamous acrobatic horse show.

No, no.

Acrobat.

Woman behind the infamous acrobatic horse show fiasco.

Oh my gosh.

Arrested.

This sounds like I want to see like a fire festival documentary on this now.

What is this?

Right?

Right?

This sounds incredible.

Right.

It does, doesn't it?

Acrobatic horse show fiasco?

You have to go.

That's a good band name.

You have to.

Rolls right off your tongue.

The acrobatic

horse show fiasco.

I would totally see that movie.

I'd see live.

I'd see that movie.

Yeah.

Okay, so this is how it's brought up.

Like three-quarters of the way through, after that headline, three-quarters of the way through, married in 2011, after talking about her trying to kill her husband.

Married in 2011, the Remleys made headlines a year later after they organized an elaborate multi-million dollar 45-show

equestrian acrobatics show.

What happened like the horses were doing flips the extravaganza was canceled after just a few performances However, and its crew and performers were left empty-handed and then it goes back into their attempted divorce and she couldn't divorce them so she was gonna kill

I want to know

What acrobatics were they trying to get the horses to do?

Was it a tightrope act?

Was it like cirque de Soleil, but it was with horses?

What?

Did a horse, a Clydesdale, wrap himself in a giant ribbon and spin?

I don't know.

What's the name?

What's the lady's name again?

Wait, the performance was called

Valatar, V-A-L-I-T-A-R.

Right?

I could care less about the husband.

Right.

She goes to jail.

I want to know about the acrobatic horse show.

Fiasco.

So there is an article from the San Diego Union Tribune.

Okay, Valatar's Epic Collapse.

Okay, all right.

So tell us.

I got it.

What were they doing?

How did we miss this?

America, we don't have our priorities right.

We've been going on and on and on.

Ah, Biden did this.

Biden did this.

An acrobatic horse show?

That's an ambitious target.

Yes.

They're not planning on doing it, but it's an ambitious target.

Ambitious target.

Valatar, set in a fantasy kingdom of sleek stallions and acrobatic equestrians, was touted as a matchless spectacle.

Even before the November 16th World Premiere, this is 2013, by the way.

Under a massive crimson tent at the Del Mar Fairgrounds, the Rancho Santa Fe producers were planning a 10-month five-city U.S.

tour.

Mark and Tatiana Remley predicted a hit.

It's like Cirque du Soleil with horses.

Okay, I got it.

All right.

Wait, I got to see this.

This is our nation's top priority needs to be bringing this back.

I don't know what it is, but I got to see it.

I mean, that's like,

you know, by the end of the decade, we'll put a man on the moon and return.

I want an acrobatic.

That's a goal for America.

I can't believe it.

It's just to solite with horses.

How do they hang on to things?

They don't have hands.

I mean, it's got to be under the underarm, right?

I don't know.

Oh, you imagine they're on the blocks and then they jump down on the trampoline and then they kind of gallop back up to the block.

This would be incredible.

They're going to jump down and they gallop back up on the block.

Free this woman so she can start the show off.

I mean, it may be your husband.

Don't let the husband get killed until we get the plans.

Oh, this is not the framing of this article.

I have questions with.

It says, what type of show was it?

A disaster.

Since Valatar only had a five-day run, the Remley's putting it down after its November 20th performance.

Oh, God.

Journalism used to be fun.

Oh, my gosh, because it didn't matter.

Look it up on.

Wait, is there more?

Insiders now say the real spectacle unfolded offstage and will soon move center stage as lawsuits filed against the couple raised questions about the ill-fated show.

The Remleys did not respond, but legal documents and people associated with Valatar describe a couple with lofty ambitions but limited abilities.

You know what?

I have no sympathy you're invested you lost your money in a cirque de sole with horses

i i don't have sympathy you're like it the horses are doing acrobatic tricks i mean i can't believe it actually went off like they it had five performances you got to look it up see if you can find it on youtube now listen to this the wife is experiencing extreme financial strain she's unable to maintain her realistic monthly expenses of just $12,000 a month, much less than what she's accustomed to at $50,000 a month.

She has no income, but she has this great idea.

In addition to the monthly stipend of $12,000 a month, Miss Remley demands access to one of their homes, two of their trucks, an ATV,

and their pet parrot.

She denies she tried to have her husband killed.

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Married in 2011, the Remleys made headlines a year later after they organized an elaborate multi-million dollar 45 equestrian acrobatics show called called Valatar.

Now, we have apparently found a commercial for this.

I haven't seen it yet, but I'll describe it if you're listening on the radio.

Go ahead and play that.

Valatar.

Okay?

Horse digging.

Mystico.

Mystical.

Mystical.

Right.

Now, just a picture of a horse and a woman.

Magico.

Magical.

Okay.

Now a woman just riding on.

Man and a horse.

And defy gravity.

Defy gravity.

gravity.

Experience the undiscovered.

Valatar coming with the 16th to the big top of the Delmarth aircraft.

That does not look good.

Try the other one, too.

But you don't think so?

It looks good.

It looks to me like the, you know, what's that

castle place where you get a drumstick medieval times?

It looks like that.

Hang yourself.

Go ahead.

Okay, see now we're starting.

Oh, no, no.

This is not what I paid for.

First of all, it's a skateboarder who was doing one of those tricks.

This is

the people riding a horse and somebody doing like a, you know,

it's not even cirque du Soleil.

It's like a

pole dance.

There's an awful lot of skateboarding in this commercial.

Yeah.

November 16th.

So it seems to be the really disappointing part about it is it seems to be the humans doing the acrobatics.

It's not what I was promised.

I want an elaborate multi-million dollar equestrian acrobatics show

i want the horses to do the acrobatics that's how that's how you really nailed this no wonder it failed people showed up and they're like where why isn't why aren't the horses doing the skateboarding

no wonder this thing collapsed Gosh, I mean, they really missed the boat on that.

They really did.

You know, I've really rarely seen horses doing any sorts of acrobatics, and that would be something I'd be interested in taking in.

Now, I have seen them do

water polo and you know water acrobatics, you know, what do you call those things?

Aquatic.

Wait, you've seen horses play water polo?

Yeah, they all drown, but

did that show get canceled too?

It did.

It did.

This one's about to be.

After that line, this one's about to be.

No, but can't you see them, all their heads coming up out of the water and then they swim back in like a star?

You know, like they'd be beautiful.

It'd be beautiful.

It just takes training.

Horses are smart animals.

You know what I mean?

We've become a dolphins can do it.

What do you think?

We're too soft in this country now.

We are.

You know,

we don't have the appetite anymore to see horses hang from trampolines with their armpits.

Can you imagine a horse?

Now, seriously,

imagine a horse on the parallel bars.

Oh, yeah.

Right.

Right.

Yes.

And

perfect landing of the incredible.

All four hooves are down on the ground.

He's standing.

Look at that.

Is a

golden medalist

parallel bar

Arabian.

None of that is in this show.

Wow.

No wonder it failed.

We could get the painted ponies to do this.

It would be unbelievable.

All right.

Have a great weekend.

God bless.