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let me tell you about the kid in

in Colorado Jaden is a 12-year-old boy he attends Vanguard school Colorado Springs Colorado

He's he's in this video you may have seen it it went viral on social media.

It shows

he and his mom confronting a school board

administrator who says that he has to take the Gadson flag patch off of his backpack because it's too disruptive.

And they're like, it's too disruptive.

What are you talking about?

It's too disruptive.

We don't want the flag displayed in school because of its origins with slavery and the slave trade.

Now, I'm just trying to figure that one out historically.

historically I mean I can't I don't know don't tread on me

how does that relate to the slave trade at all

okay it doesn't it clearly doesn't and these are the kind of boobs that we have running our schools all right they have no idea what they're even talking about now Jaden who is kicked out of class for having the patch

Says

there's no origins of slavery.

This 12-year-old, no origins of slavery.

And

the school's director says, well, this is being very disruptive in the school environment.

So they removed him from class.

Mom fought back against it, explaining the coiled snake above the phrase, don't tread on me, is not a pro-slavery image.

It has origins in the Revolutionary War.

It was a symbol of resistance to British tyranny.

I'm free.

don't tread on me.

So you could say it's actually an anti-slavery.

If you want to talk about slavery, it would be anti-slavery because it came from the North.

It came from New England.

New England had already banned slavery.

But it's not about that at all.

It's not.

It's about the British tyranny.

Don't tread on me.

So now all these experts are like, no, it's it's uh it's slavery it's slavery and it's connected to patriot groups

okay okay

all right

so wait the flag chose to be part of a patriot group the flag's like the snake's like

i just love white people is that what happened

geez Libertarians have adapted this.

Lefty groups, a pro-LGBT group has adopted it as well.

It's really nothing to do with a snake.

The snake was sewn on or printed on.

I don't know if you, it's kind of like a gun.

The gun didn't make the decision.

The person did.

So

this is,

this is a flag that's already gone through the government.

EEOC, they were like,

somebody was suing because the Gadsden flag is

slavery.

EEOC said, yeah, no, it's not a racist symbol.

Okay, so the EEOC.

I don't think I've ever agreed with anything the EEOC has ever done.

So the ruling has come out.

The school cannot discriminate against Jaden's viewpoint.

by declaring that this is just

a racist symbol and one that will be disruptive.

Even the governor of Colorado, a Democrat, said the Gadsden flag is a proud symbol of American revolution and an iconic warning to Britain or any government not to violate the liberties of Americans.

Yeah, it's almost like it's appropriate today

when they're telling you you can't speak out at the school board meeting.

Don't tread on me seems like a pretty good motto.

Or when they're telling you, stay at home, you're killing every grandmother on the planet.

Wear this mask.

Could I have the don't tread on me flag on the mask?

Could I do that?

That would be weird.

I wonder if you put a mask and the don't tread on me flag together, if they cancel each other out and disappear.

Most people don't know that the snake

was really a important signal, a symbol for our founders.

The snake and the skull.

The skull usually would have a crown above it, and it represented no king but God.

The king dies and he becomes a skeleton.

So no king but God.

The snake was selected because it doesn't want to bite you.

It's just sitting there in the grass.

It's like sunning itself.

It's like,

the sun is so great.

And you come walking along,

and what does it do?

It doesn't sneak up on you and bite you.

It rattles.

Stop where you are.

I mean,

I have a ranch.

Rattlesnakes everywhere.

I kind of like it because it's extra security.

Go ahead, come across that field.

Do it.

Rattlesnakes everywhere.

Now, if you're smart, you're paying attention.

like booby traps.

But these booby traps, they actually rattle before they bite.

Stay away from me.

Don't walk on me or I'll bite.

That's why our founders loved it.

It wasn't an aggressive thing.

Well, I mean, if you're a mouse, but if you're a human, it's not an aggressive thing.

It's minding its own business.

You know, there's a the very first political cartoon ever done in America

was

done by Benjamin Franklin, and it was a rattlesnake,

and it looks pretty much like that snake on Don't Tread on Me.

It was a rattlesnake, and it was cut into 13 pieces, and it had on each piece

each state or each colony, and underneath it just said, unite or die.

Meaning we could all go our own separate ways.

The king will cut us up.

We'll help him.

Or we could join together and live.

I bring this up because, by the way, the kid who is fantastic, I love this kid.

This kid, by the way, his favorite book is The Creature from Jekyll Island by the Tuttle Twins.

Love this kid.

Okay.

He knows what he's talking about.

He's back in school with the flag on his backpack today.

Congratulations.

Now, I see a lot of things that are happening at the state level, even in

states like Colorado.

Colorado just put in their

in their in their house colorado Coloradians color Colorado Color people from Colorado decided that they really thought this teacher who is a Marxist

and wants a Mao-like

cultural revolution, he talks about an aggressive cultural revolution.

That's code for Mao.

They just elected him and put him in the house.

Okay, it's their state.

You can do it.

You also have people like this.

Now, the question is,

and I mean this sincerely,

the time is coming when we are in real trouble, real trouble.

I don't know if you saw Tucker on X yesterday.

He did an interview with Victor Orban from Hungary.

Okay, that's a little frightening.

Victor Orban's like, yeah.

Yeah, World War III.

Everybody here knows Ukraine is losing.

There's no way to win.

You got to make peace right now because the only thing you can do is start sending boots on the ground to help them because they're out.

You do that, it's World War III.

You start sending the jets over and everything else, World War III.

He'll use a nuke.

He will.

You should probably trust the people who have been taken by the former Soviet Union and have lived next to Russia our whole existence.

You should probably listen to us.

I mean, there's an ocean between you and us.

You know, you may not know what's best.

I think he's right on that.

But as tough times come and you live, if you live in Washington, D.C.,

there's no way you get a fair trial.

No way.

I think if you live in New York City, there's no way you get a fair trial.

If it's political, if you're like, uh, yeah, my child is my child, not your child.

They're not going to get a sex change.

No.

you're not going to get a fair trial

California do you really think

now things are changing for instance in Washington DC

I don't know if you've seen the climate activists that have glued themselves to the roadway again

honestly I just think did you see the I think it was in New Mexico, but it was on the native side.

I think it was on the Navajo Nation.

You know, Burning Man was happening, happening, and these dopes just blocked traffic, and traffic was blocked forever.

And they were on the Navajo side.

So the Navajo Rangers came.

They just took their truck and went through the blockade and then turned around and started going.

And the kids were like, they can't do that.

What are they doing?

We're not violent.

You can't.

And the guy gets out of the truck with his gun.

He's like, get out on the ground right now.

And he's aggressive.

Yeah, he's he's aggressive.

And these hippies are like, no,

you can't do that.

Yeah, yeah.

You know, you're in a different country.

You don't think you are, but you are.

You're in the Navajo nation now.

And they don't play by the same rules.

In Washington, D.C., all of these climate activists were out.

And

people were blocked.

Now, this has happened two days in the last two weeks.

People are blocked for like an hour, two hours.

They're just blocked.

And they're getting out of their cars and they are starting to accost these people.

And they're like, what do you think you're doing?

I have a house payment.

I have a car payment.

I'm raising kids.

I'm trying to feed my family.

Get the hell out of the street.

And it's getting ugly.

It's getting really ugly.

The people, the good news is, I think the people have had enough of this.

They've had enough.

For that to happen even in Washington, D.C., that's interesting.

So now they, I don't know,

they took a chisel and got the guy's hand, you know, off of the concrete, but they were all arrested.

They'll be back because they think they're Martin Luther King.

So they'll be back.

But the question is,

which way is your state going?

And should we consider?

because I know

I have.

I moved to Texas for a reason.

I have a ranch in Idaho for a reason.

I bet on two states.

There's other states that I'm sure might, you know, actually stand too.

And these two states might eventually fall.

I don't know.

But I bet on two states.

I didn't want to be in New York.

Those people will eat you.

They will.

It's going to get very.

When there's no food, and you know, because of, you know, the Green New Deal, when all of that wind power is producing all the electricity that it's supposed to produce and nobody has any power, and you're in Washington, D.C., and you're in a skyscraper 55, 60 stories tall with people in it and their children, and they're all hungry.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Some new recipes might be tried out.

I'm just saying.

Or do we stay in those places

because we know that our founder said, unite or die.

And what we're doing is we're separating ourselves.

I don't have an answer for this.

I really don't.

I'm really struggling with this.

Do we unite

or do we separate?

Do we balkanize?

Bad idea.

But is it the only idea?

I don't know.

Because I got to tell you, I'll never go to Washington, D.C.

Never again.

Because I know if I'm arrested for some political reason, I'll never get a fair trial.

Never.

Never.

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Janet Robertson lost her job 10 days after speaking out at the school board.

She has three children attending schools in the school district.

She said it's not a choice.

People are not gender fluid, and to teach our children this is not okay.

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My daughter's not going to be really happy to hear this, but no.

I don't care how you identify.

You're a dude, go to the men's room.

You're a girl, woman, go to the girl's room.

That's it, period.

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I don't care.

I don't care.

There is no such thing as a biological male.

Okay, well, biologically, I'm a male, but no, there's no, but.

There's no, Of course, you're a biological male.

That's the only kind of male that exists.

Biological.

Everything else is psychological.

And I'm not going to deal with your psychosis.

No, not going to.

Not going to.

I'm not changing because you're truly messed up in the head.

And I say that with as much love and respect as I can give at this point.

I've never had a problem.

I mean, I feel for people who are really suffering from gender dysphoria.

I really do.

But you know what?

Enough is enough.

Enough is enough.

And it's not their fault.

It's everyone else who's enabling them.

I mean, it's the same way you'd feel for someone who's suffering with anorexia.

Yes.

You wouldn't confirm that they're actually really fat and never need to eat again.

You would instead say, no, you need to change the way you're not fat.

You need to make sure you change your habits.

And that's what we're supposed to do.

Instead, we're going down this other road where we just kind of like say, yeah, whatever you think.

No.

Whatever's rattle around inside that brain is true.

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We're talking about whether or not people should move.

And, you know, we're three people here.

Pat's joining us.

Three Three people here who have moved to Texas from New York.

You know, we got out when the getting was good.

And we're here for a reason, because we're counting on Texas to stand.

If your state or your community is going to hell in a handbasket, should you stay?

Because if we, if all of conservatives move to, you know, 10 states, 25 states, we just split the, then we've split the country.

We're balkanized.

But

I'm so torn on this because.

Because maybe balkanization is good.

No, no.

Balkanization is really bad.

The pro-balkanization viewpoint.

I go from the big picture, which this is really bad.

No way around it.

Balkanization is bad.

To the little picture.

It's easy for me to say, no, you should stay in New York.

You should stay in California.

No.

Well, you should if you were planning to move to Texas because Texas is full up.

It's full up.

We're just for full up.

Okay, full.

let me go to Ben in Ohio.

Hello, Ben.

Hi, how are you?

Good.

How are you?

I'm fantastic.

Honored to speak to you, sir.

Thank you.

Unfortunately, I lean towards the side of it.

We have to move.

It's, you know, states are being picked off one by one.

States like Illinois and California are

obviously lost.

We don't have enough that are going to move to those areas that we can try to take those states back.

And with my, I've got family that lives in Texas.

Unfortunately, I'm probably headed that way.

I know you say you're full, but I think you can take one more family.

Well, you're a listener of ours.

We'll sneak you across the border.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

But yeah, it was, it's, we have to start surrounding ourselves or we're just going to continue to be split up.

We're so spread out.

The people that love this country and stand for the Constitution are so spread out and so split up that we're losing on the bigger picture.

And it's unfortunate, but we need to start kind of creating those home bases, in my opinion, and where we can start solidifying what we need to do to protect what we have.

The problem is we're fighting a battle on 50 fronts.

This is the only way I can make this work in my head.

We're fighting a battle on 50 fronts.

And we tend to be losing on those 50 fronts.

And not because of the argument or anything else, but because of the big cities.

They're all controlled by progressives.

And so the big cities vote and you lose the state.

So, you know, how are you going to change?

You've got to change those big cities, which requires some of us.

And God bless you, you're a hero for going into those cities and changing them from the inside.

If we leave, we've lost the state.

We've lost the state.

And we will balkanize.

But isn't there something to be said

to stop the, I mean, look at how close Texas is.

Texas, I think, is pretty close to becoming a blue state.

Yeah, I mean, we got a little room here.

A little room.

A little.

The cities are gone.

Gone.

I have a really strong feeling on this question, by the way, which is absolutely leave.

Like, I don't, don't try to convince me that I'm going to be the difference

and spend the next multiple decades of my family's existence trying to fight balkanization in some blue state.

Forget it.

Do what is best for your family and go to the place where your family can be raised the best way possible.

I understand what you're meaning from a societal viewpoint, but when you're making that decision as an individual, you make that decision that is best for your family.

Totally agree with, you got to make the decision that's right for your family.

Totally agree.

Totally agree.

However,

you know,

don't come here if you're a progressive.

Well, yes.

You got all that.

You got the dreamland over in California and New York and everything else.

But,

you know, the problem is, is that, I mean, go back to Franklin, unite or die.

That's giving up on our friends and neighbors who vote Democrat but are not these crazy people that glue themselves to highways.

That's giving up on them and saying there's no way back for them.

Then they should change, vote sensibly, and come to Texas too, or come to Florida, too.

There is plenty of room, despite our warnings, for sane people.

Except in Texas.

Except in Texas.

Obviously, we're filled to the brim.

But no, I mean, I think it is.

I think a lot of times we make these decisions based on things like, well, what will happen in 40 years with

the future of the nation?

Live your life the best way possible for your family, to honor

your principles and your faith.

Do that that because you're not going to be able to control what what the hell kathy hochle does in new york you're not saving it save your family yeah when you're seeing what that's sad that goes again you know that this i i'm stuck really i'm stuck because i know what i would do as my i know what i am doing for my family yeah i because i know i live here and and a good chunk of the reason i live here is because you decided you wanted to be in texas which i'm very thankful for by the way uh so you're welcome and 10 of the salary can come to me now uh but paying a hundred percent of it that would just mean you'd pay ninety percent of it okay good glad we understand each other so the the i go back and forth on what's right for you you know what's right

for the individual and then what's right for the nation and uh

you know i don't have a right to say

i just i just would i i think we should just point out that balkanization is not good.

And that's what they want.

That's what they want.

And people.

The aliens.

Yeah.

You know, them.

Yep.

Yeah.

You saw that.

You saw them.

I did.

And it.

And the thing.

You saw

all those.

That's who wants it.

All great documentaries.

All great documentaries.

Do you make decisions like that based on...

I think about this when I'm voting sometimes.

Not usually, no.

Like where you're like, oh, well, what's the strategic thing to do right now is to do this.

Because this person will go this and this person.

Then this will happen and this will happen.

Just vote for who you think the best person is.

Oh, I hate that.

Yeah, I've done that before, and it never works.

It never works.

It never works.

It's a terrible idea.

You're not going to be the person who makes the one vote difference to get your candidate over.

That's going to make X, Y, and Z happens.

And then 35 different chain reactions occur, and then it really works out in the end.

That's not the way it works.

Just vote for who you think the best person is.

Wow.

So he's saying every vote doesn't count.

Your vote doesn't count.

That's basically what I heard him say.

I think America heard it too.

Yeah, I was talking to Eric Jeline the other day, and he's like, you know, democracy sucks.

It does.

It kind of sucks at the end of the day.

Yes.

And, you know, it was a funny point, but also, like, you know, this process at times has its problems.

The bottom line is, make decisions that you feel comfortable with for your family and your future, right?

Like, that's all you can do.

And people get so wrapped up in trying to micromanage the future of the nation.

If everyone just makes good decisions based on solid principles, we're going to be okay.

We've been okay for a long time.

Let's just abandon that.

Let me go to Chrissy in also in Ohio.

Hi, Chrissy.

Yeah.

Hi, guys.

Thank you so much for all you do.

We had a really big thing in Ohio, and it was the voting on issue one, and it's about amending our Constitution.

And a lot of people in my family were, you know, split on it.

And of course, I was yes.

And my sister was sending me texts saying, you know, hey, this is all about, you know, abortion.

It's all about this.

And, you know, I am a pro-choice person.

I'm very conservative, but I believe in some, you know,

cap on weeks and all of that.

And when she, you know, sent me that text, I sent back to her.

I said, hey, I cannot vote on one issue.

I cannot just vote on abortion.

So what that would mean is if we had 40% that you needed to amend the Ohio Constitution, then

when

if it was we wanted to change it to 60%.

And I said, what if they want to start, you know, having trans story time in school?

What if they started doing those types of things?

And, you know, everybody just, I don't know, I think we need to start talking about it differently.

I'm happy to move to Florida, although I love Ohio and we have family in Florida, but it's really tough.

No, I know it's really tough.

It's really, really tough.

I have to understand your point of view, though.

So you voted against the change to 60%.

No, she said she voted yes.

No.

Okay, all right, good.

I voted yes because I wanted it to stick, to go to 60

instead of.

And that's not what happened in Ohio, is it?

No, No.

Now we need only 40%.

That's insane.

That's all you need, and it can be changed.

But can I say something real quick to thank you?

Sure.

Always.

Well, actually, I need to thank all of you guys.

I've been listening for a long time and I've been sober for a long time.

I attended 828 and I went to Wilmington and I went to Restoring Love and I am still in contact with these people that I have met.

And it literally has changed my life.

And I just want to say thank you for following your heart and believing in, you know, letting your life go and take it where your God that you believe in sends you.

So thank you.

Thank you.

I really, it means a great deal to me.

I, you know, all of those things that we've done in the past always seemed like they were, you know, game-changing and they never,

you never saw the result.

But I think over time, I have seen the result.

And Chrissy, I hear this from people like you all the time, that those events changed their life because they met people and they have new friends.

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who met at one of these events and one is dying of cancer or one has MS and the whole group

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Okay.

That's awesome.

I mean, like it is, it's surrounding yourself with community.

I mean, I think I could, I might be a person who's in upstate New York somewhere and have a great community around me and say, you know what, I can make it through this.

We've got a great circle and we can do this.

That's a totally rational decision in any particular situation.

But it's like, there's no reason to torture yourself.

There's no reason to sit here and pay insane taxes to a state that is going to use it to fund abortions.

There's just like, that's not a thing you have to do.

Federalism is really important.

We should get to more of that.

We should.

We should get to more of that.

I think we're moving towards that more and more.

I mean, look at what's happening in Hawaii.

I mean, there's a chance that things change in Hawaii because all of, I mean, the

electrical company said it was their fault that the fire started.

Now they're blaming the fire department because you didn't put it out properly.

But it's the blame is all not on global warming.

It's all on government and efficiency.

And I think people are seeing, wow, government,

I've said this for years, when the government is the police and the offender, where do you go for help?

And I think people are starting to maybe realize that.

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I think that's,

I'm not sure, I better not say, but it's in the mid-afternoon Central Time, I believe.

So you can go there and it'll tell you when it's going to happen, I'm sure.

Mid-afternoon Central Time, late night, Eastern.

Yes.

And then morning Pacific.

Right.

And Hawaii.

It doesn't even happen in Hawaii.

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It never gets there.

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It's a long swim.

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Also tonight, the Wednesday night special, speaking of Maui, the disaster in Maui, the government failures that helped caused it, and why there are so still so many unanswered questions.

It's a microcosm of progressive governments everywhere.

Tragically ironic, because the core tenet of Democrats, at least according to how they market themselves, is their government is always there for the people, and they care, and they're the best to take care of things when it turns out they're the worst.

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We have still recovery in Maui and now the hurricane in Florida.

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of Governor DeSantis on television talking about what's happening in Florida?

Listen to this.

Well, this thing's going to hit us on Wednesday morning.

It's going to be a major hurricane.

People need to heed the instructions from their local officials.

You still have time this morning and early afternoon to be able to make the preparations that you need to.

You are going to start seeing on the Gulf Coast of Florida some of the effects of this as we get into Tuesday night.

The state, we have tens of thousands of utility workers staged, ready to go in for rapid power restoration.

We also have urban search and rescue teams staged, ready to go.

If there needs to be rescue operations, we will lead the effort on that.

And then, of course, we have other types of supplies as people need.

So we're ready to go on this.

This is a storm that's hitting a part of the state that hasn't had a major hurricane on the current track in a long time.

And so that's a lot of woods, a lot of forests.

I think you're going to see a lot of debris as a result of this storm.

And that means we have our guys ready to clear the roads.

It's amazing.

They are taking action prior to,

you remember a year before, to the day, the year before

Katrina, I was on the air and I told you the most dangerous city in America was New Orleans because the levees have been used as a political fundraiser forever and then they never fixed the levees.

And I said it is the most dangerous.

If it is hit straight on, it will cause chaos unlike anything we've ever seen.

12 months later, to the day it was happening.

It didn't take a prophet to see it.

It only takes somebody who's looking at what is not being done by the government.

The same thing with Maui.

You know,

what we've learned from Maui, A, about the government, we'll get into later.

But what we've learned is the people can take care of themselves.

The people are taking care of themselves.

The community is coming together.

Everyone I talk to that has been to Maui or is in Maui has said the same thing.

This is a tight-knit community that is really helping each other.

You can't expect a government who is several time zones away to be your first responder.

For one reason, they suck.

They always suck.

Okay?

You need people closest to the ground.

That's why we don't give to big national charities unless

we know they are the first on the ground and they have a long track record of being the first in and the last out.

When you give your dollars to Mercury One, you're not really giving them to Mercury One.

We are just finding the place where those dollars will get the most bang for the buck because we don't take anything off the top.

And so the first places we go are local churches.

You know, the

local churches, the local clubs, the local emergency people that have dealt with these things over and over again.

And the churches are usually one of the best places.

Well, Greg Lorry, he's the guy who was in the movie Jesus Revolution, or he wasn't actually, and it was about him and that whole revolution.

He has a church there on Maui in this community.

It's an amazing story, and they were the first people out to be able to help.

And we wanted to get the story from him on what's going on.

Welcome, Greg.

Good to be with you.

Thanks so much for inviting me to be on your show.

I was actually just in Maui yesterday.

And

we've had a church there, as you mentioned, for 41 years now.

A friend of mine started it.

He's a pro-surfer.

He started this church.

And he wanted to retire and ask if we'd bring it into our church family that's called Harvest.

And so now it's been a part of our churches for...

seven years and you know it's usually a very happy thing to go over there a very close congregation of around 1,000 people.

And man, when I spoke to them last Sunday, it's like they were all collectively traumatized still,

but yet still filled with hope.

And that is, I think, one of the most important things right now is to bring, yes, help.

And thanks to you and Mercury One.

and others that have helped us.

We've been able to bring tangible help to people, helping them get clothing, food.

We've helped 100 families in tangible ways financially to survive this thing.

But I think the thing that we have to offer that's more important than anything is hope.

You know, it's been said that men can live 40 days without food, three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but not one second without hope.

And there's a lot of people on this island that have lost hope.

I was talking with J.P.

Decker, who works with you at Mercury One, and he brought to my attention the fact that there have been a number of suicides since this has happened among those who've lost their home, their livelihood, and apparently their hope.

And so we're really working on that.

I, you know, from everything I read, the people who were in the water that

watched people burn to death and watched people, you know, eventually give up and drown all around them.

The, you know, the one woman who finally, after two days of looking for her son she was turned around turned around by the police and everybody else and they said no we've already cleared all the houses she went back to what was left of her house and her son's bedroom was still fairly intact and he was uh he had not been incinerated and he was sitting on what was his bed holding his dog Once you see these kinds of things

up close and personal and one after another after another.

I mean, what are you guys dealing with over there psychologically?

You're dealing with trauma.

You know, I know people, I think, misuse the concept of PTSD,

but I think you're really seeing this on a widespread scale because these people have experienced major trauma in stories like that one you just shared.

That's so unbelievable.

And they were told to not go to their their homes.

And

they were told to not leave and they were turned back again.

And many of those people were incinerated because of that and for the ones that just broke the law effectively and disobeyed what they were told.

They lived.

And so this, without question, has been horribly mismanaged on so many levels.

But we stepped in immediately because we're there on the ground.

And in every way way possible.

I mean, giving people, you know, a man who lost his livelihood gave him fishing poles so he can go out and fish again.

We have one couple in the church saying, you know, round people pizza.

And they just made all of their pizza free for anybody that wants it.

And so we got in this truck and we're driving around just giving pizzas to police officers, to people anywhere.

But I tell you what, Glenn, people love pizza.

I saw the power of pizza.

I mean,

it's a little thing, but we give it to him in the name of Jesus Christ.

Here's the pizza.

Thank you.

You know, little things matter.

But I think, you know, there's something called the ministry of presence where you're just there and you listen to people and you care about people.

And that goes a long way because, you know, when you're dealing with trauma, you've got to talk about it.

You've got to process it.

And, of course, we pray with them and we point them toward Christ

because he is the one who's ultimately going to give us the hope we need.

You have preschool.

Now

you're allowing the church facilities to be used for teachers and parent groups and educational support.

And then the preschool is child care for families.

I mean, this is turning into kind of a full-time thing.

How long can the church do that?

We'll do it as long as it needs to be done.

And we're working with other organizations, Mercury One, Samaritan Spurs, the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association.

We're also helping people just with the practical things like filling up their insurance forms and making their claims, because a lot of these people don't know how to do it.

They didn't have internet for quite a while.

We've run in some of those Starlink

systems.

So people could just, there was like literally, there was no communication on this island.

People couldn't text each other.

They couldn't call each other.

They couldn't communicate at all.

And this fire, as you know, just incinerated everything in its path.

When I got there, we got down on what is called Front Street.

And that's kind of the main destination of Lahaina.

People come from around the world to visit.

Tourist attraction, beautiful street.

In fact, in my social media, I posted a drone shot that we had done.

two weeks before this fire because I was there doing a program with CBN featuring our church in happier days.

And I put this drone shot of what Front Street looked like in its heyday, in its glory, right next to a shot of the same places that we just took on that same street.

And it looks like a war zone.

It's just,

it's incomprehensible because I pretty much know every square inch of that street.

And, you know, think of all those buildings, your favorite stores and restaurants, but even more, obviously, the loss of life.

I I mean, you're walking through effectively a graveyard, and it's very sobering.

It's very sad.

But at the same time, I see, you know, the Bible talks about beauty coming out of ashes.

And I see that happening.

There, you know, here's the amazing thing is downtown in Lahaina, there's this tree.

It's a banyan tree.

And it was actually planted, interestingly,

dedicated to the first missionary that came to Lahaina.

And this tree somehow survived.

And to me, it's a picture of resilience and

about how if a person is rooted in a relationship with God, they can survive anything.

And I think that tree has, in many ways, become a symbol for the people on the island.

They're going to come back again, they're going to rebuild again.

But the loss of life, those people can never be replaced.

Greg Laurie,

he is the real-life guy that you might have seen in the

Jesus Revolution.

That was his story.

And he is a senior pastor at Harvest Christian Fellowship.

One of their branches is right there in Lahaina in Maui.

And he has been on the scene.

The church has been working.

And thank you, Greg, for being such a good steward of the money that Mercury One has given the church to be able to help all these people.

Thank you.

We like to give it to people who understand sacred money.

Well, Clint, thank you so much.

And for all the folks that invested, we really appreciate it.

And God bless you all.

Thank you very much.

So you know, the several of the charities that he mentioned,

Billy Graham and Samaritan's Purse,

we

helped them get the first, I think it was a C-130

off the ground right away when this was happening.

That was also

your money, and we appreciate it.

If you'd like to help and then help those who are now in Florida as well,

government is not the thing.

It is the local people that always fix the problems.

So, why send your money to an inefficient where they're using maybe 40 cents on every dollar?

The rest is in overhead.

100% of the money goes directly to whatever it is we're trying to serve in disaster relief.

Give to local charities and local people.

And if you don't know who to give there,

you can go to Mercury One and we will find those people for you, mercuryone.org.

Tonight, we have a special on Wednesday night, our Wednesday night special.

It is the tragedy in Maui, how left-wing government has failed Hawaiians.

There's a lot of questions out, and it wasn't global warming.

It was the government.

Incompetence, fear of

their own government,

and

not paying attention to all of the warnings.

Tragedy in Maui tonight at 9 p.m.

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And they'll ask you all sorts of uncomfortable questions.

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It's shameful and a little bit terrifying, quite honestly.

A little bit terrifying.

Did you see Tucker Carlson's interview with Orban?

I did not see it.

I saw some of the coverage of it, though.

I bet he goes to Putin next.

Interesting.

Yeah, bet he goes to Putin next.

I bet he's going to interview Putin.

It seems

the coverage I've seen in the media is like, well, this was a pro-Russian interview.

And

Vladimir Putin is Tucker Carlson's.

Orban does not like Putin.

Really?

No.

That's what the coverage I saw said.

I was like, I mean,

of course, you know that the media does this, but was there any indication of this?

He just said he wanted peace, right?

He wanted to get this over with.

Yeah, he's like, there's no way to win this.

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I think he's right.

Definitely risking it.

There's no question about that.

I mean, he's pro-China, but he's not pro-Russia.

Okay.

He's not pro-Russia.

Neither one is a good one.

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So

Monday,

An Iranian female singer

put out a music video expressing support for Iranian women women and protesting against the hijab mandates and encouraged women to remove their hijab.

Well,

no, not there.

So she's in jail now.

Just to remind you of how much we have in common with the Iranian rulers.

Not the people, but the rulers.

A couple of days ago, NPR

continued the assault on Senator Tommy Tuberville,

saying,

I'm sorry, Tupperville.

Tuberville, thank you.

Tuberville, saying his hold on military promotions are affecting 650 officers by the end of the year.

Now, I don't know about you, but boohoo.

Oh, no, they don't get their promotion.

Why is he doing this?

Well, he is saying you got to change the policies.

Get away from all these woke policies, and one in particular, abortion.

Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin has made three separate and desperate calls pleading with him to abandon his hold.

And each time the senator's response has been, change the policies and I'll release the hold.

It's an impasse.

And I, for one, say, good.

And here's why.

A confirmation is not a rubber stamp.

And if the military is proceeding down a road that we don't find acceptable, it is the duty of our representatives in the Senate to do their jobs and right the ship.

I'd like to see this from the Republicans in the House.

Why did you approve the FBI building, the new FBI?

Why would you do that?

You have the control of the purse strings.

Now,

let me ask you, do you feel comfortable with what's coming out of the military lately?

Between abortion, on-base drag queen shows, partisan identity politics, do you feel comfortable that your kids could join the military and still be a part of the greatest military machine of all time?

Or do you think you're just putting them in a slaughterhouse?

Should we just greenlight fundamental transformation of the most powerful military machine in the history of mankind.

I don't think so.

But I don't think people know how bad it has gotten.

The head of the United States Strategic Command is General Anthony Cotton.

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We couldn't believe that this was true, but it is.

In 2020, the head of the Strategic Command, General Anthony Cotton, told the Air Force magazine that the United States is racist.

Quote, I'm here as a lieutenant general in the United States Air Force, and when I see what happened to Ahmed Arbery, Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, Rayshard Brooks, and the list goes on and on, that could be me.

Now, a couple of years ago, Cotton said, quote, diversity and inclusion are the tools for national defense,

and that diversity is a war-fighting imperative.

I don't care what color or who the person is sleeping with when they're killing in the name of our country to save people and to save human rights.

Diversity is a warfighting imperative, really?

You see, winning wars is no longer the goal.

Worshiping at the altar of the Church of Woke has now replaced national defense.

Now, a couple of weeks ago, the U.S.

Strategic Command, remember, this is General Cotton,

the Strategic Command conducted their 2023 deterrence symposium, and General Cotton invited an interesting guest speaker, Dr.

Syed

Hossein

Musavian.

Easy for me to say.

That was a roller coaster ride, but I think you got through it.

Dr.

Syed Hossein Musavian.

Before kicking off his keynote speech, he thanked General Cotton for the invitation and then stated his goal as this.

Today, I want to

talk about Iran-U.S.

mutual threat perceptions and deterrence policies.

It's historical perspective.

but

more an Iranian perspective.

I'm afraid you may don't like it, but I think it's important to know the other side, the adversary thinking.

So he was going to deliver the Iranian point of view.

Now, I don't remember inviting in,

you know, the Russians to tell us their point of view.

You could bring a former Russian in that says, this is the way they think.

And this is why they behave this way.

And here's how you need to position yourself strategically but that's not what he's doing

he was giving the iranian point of view from a guy who believes the iranian point of view um and i'm sure he does that quite often at his current post at princeton university now i find this you know very interesting because he is very qualified to give the iranian point of view towards the united states he was born and raised in iran his family had ties to the religious revolutionary movement From 1990 to 1997, he was the government Iran's ambassador to Germany.

He held this post as Iranian agents murdered four Iranian dissidents in Berlin at a restaurant.

The Germans demanded that he be recalled back to Iran.

He responded with a veiled threat.

He said that if Europe treated Iran the way America and Israel did, they would be treated the same way by Iran.

Now, I wonder what that could mean.

What does that mean?

Was that reference to Iran's attack on the Marine barracks in Beirut in 83?

Or was that the murder of the Beirut CIA station chief, William Buckley?

Or maybe it was the 1985 murder of the U.S.

Navy diver when they hijacked TWA Flight 847.

I'm not sure what he was referring to, but That's the way Iran treats America.

Is that the treatment he was talking about?

This is the guy that General Cotton invited in to speak at the United Nations Strategic Command.

Now, remember, General Cotton is also a guy who's not really in love

with the United States as we are.

So, Museveyan

also was Iran's senior negotiator because It's bad, but it's about to get worse.

The senior negotiator for nuclear issues from 2003 to 2005.

And he brought up the nuclear issue in his keynote, which he said, of course, was all our fault.

The attendees had to listen to everything, according to him, being our fault.

Iran was the victim.

We were the bad guys.

Never mind the fact that he never mentions, you know, obviously that Iran was stolen by a radical Shia 12 or Islamist group, but he's fine with that.

Never mentions that eradicating Israel remains their top priority.

Oh, and death to America as well.

But never mind that.

Everything is America's fault.

Now, is that true?

I mean, really?

I mean,

is that true that

we started their nuclear

nuclear program?

Because it doesn't mesh with my notes.

Because I'm seeing that Iran's first official hacking program began in 2002.

He said this.

He said that in 2010, Susnex, the Susneck, the cyber attack that the United States did on the Iranian nuclear sites under the Obama administration convinced Iran to start up a cyber program.

He said they never had one before.

It was our fault that they were looking to build a missile, and then it's our fault that they're doing anything online because they had never heard or thought about any kind of hacking program.

Now, our side says, yeah, you started in 2000 years, 2002, eight years before we attacked you.

The Iranian cyber army, an affiliate of IRGC, attacked Twitter in 2009.

So did he not know that?

Did he not know that?

He would also mention the assassination of the former Iranian Revolutionary Guard commander, Soleimani.

Now, listen to this.

He bragged about his government's death threats after Soleimani's assassination.

He said he had Trump's officials trembling with fear.

More specifically, Trump's special envoy for Iran, Brian Hook, but not him personally.

He said

his threats made Brian's wife

so afraid that, quote, she couldn't sleep, she cried, and she trembled.

This is what he's bragging about.

Now, I expect this from Princeton.

But why is he being invited by a United States general to speak at strategic command?

We are opening the doors to the very enemies.

We're doing it on our border, and apparently we're doing it at the Pentagon.

I don't know what's happening with our military, but it's not good.

And if Tubberbill can hold the destruction of our armed forces off,

I say march on, Senator.

March on.

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The coast of Florida is, they're expecting storm surge in some areas of up to 12 feet.

Can you imagine?

I mean,

how do you, I am, I'm just, I, I grew up in the Pacific Northwest where, you know, the temperatures are moderate.

We don't have massive snowstorms.

We don't have hurricanes.

We don't have tornadoes.

It's not hot.

And also don't have happiness.

No, we have no happiness and a volcano once in a while.

But other than that,

and I just, I mean, I just like like here in

Dallas, the heat in the summer, and I say it every summer, but you know, 108 is 108.

You know, it's, it's a lot.

It's a lot.

And I don't care if it's, if it's dry Arizona.

It's a dry heat.

No, 121 is 121.

And

this isn't a dry heat.

It's not Houston.

But I just don't like it.

And I can't imagine.

I mean, I'd love to live on the ocean.

I'd love to live, you know.

But

the idea that everything you have just gone.

I don't know.

I don't think so.

I just want to live someplace where nature just leaves me alone.

Yeah.

You know?

And it's surprising how many people have to deal with this so regularly.

Obviously, Florida getting hit today.

You know, you have California.

Everyone's like, oh, everything's fine.

But then you get the earthquakes.

There's always the potential for the earthquake in California.

Yeah, no, California, I think, is the worst of all of them.

Really?

Yeah.

Everyone loves the weather in Southern California.

You You love the weather in

California if you can live through the mud slides, the fires, you're going to get swallowed by the earth, but when you're on top of the earth for that, whatever that period of time is, it's very nice until you're sliding into the abyss.

It's nice, yeah, it's nice weather-wise.

Right.

I mean,

you're not gonna have any money, and you're gonna be consulted by homeless people who are defecating in the streets every five minutes.

But other than that, it's really wonderful, it's really great.

It's really great.

I think

I don't know.

I like Arizona, even though it's 121 degrees.

You know, I like that because there's just nothing, you know, I don't like the big funnels that come out of the sky here occasionally.

Yeah.

You know,

that can happen.

Yeah,

funnels come down and you're like,

I'm not really feeling comfortable about this.

It's not like a rainstorm, you know, or a hurricane that you can prepare for.

It's just all of a sudden, hey, where's where's Ellie?

I sucked up into a funnel in the clouds.

It's no big deal.

And if you're not hit by that, you're hit by like grapefruit size.

I don't know how people survived here early on.

Early on.

First of all, you know, you didn't know that these things were coming.

All of a sudden, grapefruit hail is coming down at you.

What?

Am I going to hide under my cow?

My cow's going to die too.

I mean,

I am glad I live in this century.

I mean

this century, not last century, this century.

This one, right?

Yeah.

And here, like the air conditioning thing, we really do overlook what an incredible innovation that is.

It has absolutely opened up half the country for people to live in.

It has.

It has.

It's a miracle.

It was invented, you know, in San Antonio.

Mr.

Carrier invented it for, I think, a theater in San Antonio.

And

there's no way I would live anywhere,

anywhere south of the Mason-Dixon line, ever, if it wasn't for air conditioning.

As, you know, Joe Biden starts, you know, that wind power really kicks in.

Yeah,

half the country is going to go, wait a minute, what?

As

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There is

a former teacher in Colorado that was too radical for Colorado.

He went from school to school to school.

He has called for revolution.

He believes in a forceful, his words, forceful cultural revolution.

You'll never guess where he is today.

I'll tell you that story in 60 seconds.

You know, speaking of Colorado, there was a story about the,

what was he, eight years old, 10 years old?

12 years old, thank you.

12 years old.

He is going to school, got a backpack.

The don't tread on me flag is on the back of his backpack.

School kicks him out because, of course, as they say, that's racist.

No, it's not.

Oh, it was all about slavery.

No, it wasn't.

That was about don't tread on me from the founders.

He knew that.

So he wasn't going to take any crap.

He went and he talked to his mom.

They kick him out of school.

His mom goes back and says, excuse me, no.

The governor, the Democrat governor of Colorado actually backs the kid up.

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So let me tell you the story real quick.

Teacher, Colorado.

He gets up and he says all kinds of things in his classroom.

He went on a Marxist rant.

He said, I want to tear some S up for you.

Are you ready?

What's happening in our schools?

It's showing up in our classrooms.

You know, we have ideological circles up here.

We compete on who knows Marx better, who knows

Lenin better.

I'm a Leninist.

I'm a Marxist.

Kids don't care.

It's important to know the theory, but you have to have some practices.

You have to get out into the streets.

You have to get out into the workplace.

You have to go with your families.

We're just sitting talking in an ideological circle.

Our kids still going to schools that are underfunded, where they're investing more in their failure than in their success.

Your communist theory won't save you.

Only revolution will save you.

And it won't be the person who understands Lenin or Marx the best.

It will be a revolution that is led by the people.

He has said, quote, I'm for a forceful cultural revolution.

He goes on, there's much worse things that he said, but here's the good news.

In Denver, the State House of Representatives had an open seat, and the Democrats have just appointed him to take that seat in the State House.

So you have an open Marxist in the State House of Colorado who's calling for a forceful cultural revolution.

Well, there is somebody that is running for the country's house, and she knows all about this.

She was actually supposed to be a guest on this show.

She was here in our green room the day Robin Williams died, and we haven't had a chance to have her back.

She's now running for the U.S.

House.

Her name is Lily Tong Williams.

She's a survivor of Mao's Cultural Revolution and recognizes all the signs.

And she is now running for Congress in New Hampshire's second congressional district again.

She's already there now.

Welcome.

How are you?

Well, thank you for having me back, Glenn.

It's great to see you both here.

And a great introduction.

And

my story...

and it's like American dream story.

Yeah.

And like you mentioned it, I don't like what's going on in our country today.

I'm very terrified.

The terms they're using and the tactics they're using.

What does a forceful cultural revolution mean?

Means

use whatever violence necessary to destroy the old traditional cultures, systems, institutions, also nuclear families.

I have been calling this American Cultural Revolution for a few years.

Me and other Chinese immigrants and were very, very loud on Twitter.

And to educate people, I have on my YouTube channel, I interview immigrants who fled totalitarian regimes like Cuba, you know,

Venezuelana and China and Vietnam.

We are talking about the same thing.

What's going on in our beloved new country?

But lots of people speak they are used in this country.

They don't realize it because they don't know they never lived it under.

You know, it was Victor Orban was talking to Tucker Carlson yesterday, and he said, You know, you guys have an ocean between you and Russia.

They occupied Hungary.

Listen to the people of Hungary.

We know how they operate.

And I hear that all the time from immigrants like you that come here, you thought you got away from it, you were in a free country, and now the same exact language and the same tactics, it's happening.

Yes, I summarize Mao's features of cultural revolution.

I was two years old to 12 years old.

I was indoctrinated to believe only communism, all religions were demonized.

And I would go home, tell my Buddhist mom to say, stop praying.

You know, it's like you should believe Mao and believe in communism.

I was a child.

Of course, I did not know.

And I feel guilty.

And it's like, thank goodness I did not turn my mom in.

Because during the mouse cultural revolution, if you believe any other religions, you are Christian, Buddhist, or whatever other religion you believe in, you are deemed to be one of the five black classes.

And you are county revolutionary.

And you should be the enemy of the people.

And don't you feel like this is

in an insidious way almost the same things that are going on now they're teaching our kids that your parents are wrong on things don't listen to your parents and your parents should be shut up and maybe you should be taken from them i mean

i published my op-ed

when new hampshire trying to pass parental rights bill but sadly we failed to pass in new hampshire I published my story growing up under Mao that there is always a secret between

schools and the parents because they truly believe

parents have no rights.

Your children belong to this state.

Of course, that's the whole community think.

Why would I come to America to testify to support parental rights?

Is that the inherit human rights, natural rights, an American value that kids belong to us?

belong to the parents, not belong to the village, belong to the societies.

It's very scary to see what's going on here.

So you've been in Congress and I would imagine you know the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution better than a lot of the Americans that you serve with.

That's what brought me to this country.

When I was in law school in China third year, I was looking for something because I was totally depressed, lost, because I was told to study law.

It's not for justice.

It's not for equality.

It's actually Communist Party's tool to govern the people.

So I become...

But you didn't know that at the time when you first got in.

You were still part of the brainwashing.

Well, why start to ask questions when Mao died when I was 12 and then 14 years old and party said Mao is not a god.

Mao actually was a human being and he made a mistake.

So I was said, I was talking to myself, oh, that means I was lied to.

I was chanting Nang Liu Chin Mai Mao for straight six years in government schools.

He was like a god to me.

He, because I went home, demonized my own mother who is a Buddhist.

And then I say, Lang Liver Chien Mai Mao, 10,000 years, double 10,000 years.

That's one million years.

How did he die?

I had a little brain left.

I was asking that question inside of my head when he died.

And then later, party said, okay, he was a human being.

I was totally lost.

And I said, I'm going to study law.

When I have a chance to go to college, I'm going to transform China to rule of law society, no longer rule of men.

But I was wrong.

I realized I cannot achieve that dream in China because I realized there's a one-party dictatorship.

But I went to this dancing party and met foreigners.

And

I met one American student.

And later he asked me to visit him in a foreign student's dormitory.

And he's the one who told me about about the Declaration of Independence and the U.S.

Constitution.

My light bulb turned on.

I have individual rights and liberty.

After that, he put America in my head and I was talking to myself, you know, oh, I have individual rights.

I shouldn't have to report who I'm going to see when I go to see him.

We supposed to register at the dormitory door to say who I'm going to meet.

What is my major?

Where is my dormitory address?

There was guard at each foreign and student and scholars buildings.

So I did not have a right to talk to anybody.

I had to report it.

So I was very rebellious and I slicked into his building couple times talking

more about USA and I thought, oh, this is a great country.

All men are created equal.

And

I said, what do you mean?

He said, you are born Chinese and you have different skin color, but you are created by God.

You have an individual right by being you, born by being you.

My light came on and never turned off.

So I said, oh, this is a cool country.

If someday I have to leave China, this is the country I will come.

So I always had America in my mind.

So absurd year.

How difficult?

Because it was so foreign to you.

We, you know, we say we hold these things to be self-evident.

How long did it take you to realize that that was self-evident?

I mean, when he said those words at first, you didn't, you couldn't have understood.

No, I was puzzled.

That's why I asked him, what do you mean?

What is self-evident mean?

Because in China, I grew up in a communist country, their rights are collective sense, workers' rights.

So my parents are illiterate workers.

They had workers' rights, peasants' rights, and the soldiers' rights, teacher's rights, women's rights, all collective sense.

I never heard individual has has a right.

Wow.

And that was just, I couldn't quite get it.

So that's why I had to go back.

And when I went back, I already started rebelling.

I'm not going to register.

So I did not register at the door because I knew what we were talking about is supposed to be not PC.

I will get into trouble to say, I'm going to spend lots of time with this American student, you know?

So I just slick in, slick out.

But I feel like there's something, excitement, you know, in me so when you came here you you didn't plan on running for Congress until you started seeing things go wrong we're talking to Lily Tong Williams she's a candidate for the U.S.

House in New Hampshire she's already a congressperson no I'm not yeah I'm not elected yet

I thought you were already I thought you were running for not won last year oh you did win last year okay yeah so I was on your radio show last year talk about ESG last year right yeah yeah yeah so what is the thing that you are going to, what is the thing you're going to change?

What is the thing that you're going in to fight?

Well, I'm trying to use my stories to remind people why America was my promised land when I was in China, dreaming about more freedom and dreaming about, you know, just live my American dream.

And it took me 20 years actually in this country, learning English, learning the culture to get rid of the indoctrination I received.

And throughout my 24 years living in China under one party CCP dictatorship, we don't want to go down the wrong path because there are lots of people, including some elected into Congress and push for socialist policies.

And now I feel like there's some kind of like, for example, when you talk about work and cultural revolution, I feel like there is some kind of things going on trying to defeat America.

And I thought America is a free country based on individual rights and liberty like our forefathers put into founding documents.

But our young people today remind me my youth.

I was a young pioneer, red guard.

I was totally brainwashed and my parents had no rights.

I just I couldn't even sleep last couple years, especially during the riots and the burnings.

It's like what's going on?

I feel like something, history is repeating itself.

And I feel it's my duty to come out, to tell my stories, for the whole country to hear me.

And my unique voice matters.

So we have to have the courage now to speak the truth, even though I have been targeted by CCP to say, shut up, in this country, you are traitors, like a traitor to who?

I'm an American citizen.

I have a free speech.

And I have a citizen's duty to tell the truth.

So if I see my country is getting destroyed by the Marxists and socialists and young people who don't know what the freedom is about, it's my duty to come out to warn people.

I don't want to relive another, you know, socialist country.

I don't want my children to lose their American dream.

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Lily, thank you.

Thank you very much.

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You know, I think it's going to be honestly the immigrants who came here from countries like this and alcoholics that have a chance of saving us.

What about immigrant alcoholics?

How are they going to be?

That's twice the power.

It's twice the power.

You know, it's people who have lost everything

or have given up everything

for this life to be able to live here because they chose it.

Or like me, an alcoholic, people who...

who have lost everything and know what the only thing is that's important.

The media always tries to say, oh, conservatives are anti-immigration.

And it's like, I don't see that at all from conservatives.

No.

Illegal immigration, yes.

We have a major problem with people breaking the law.

That is 100% true.

But I think conservatives appreciate immigrants in ways that the left do not.

You know, you see people come from other countries.

I mean, this story is an incredible story.

And it's that sort of appreciation.

It's the exact opposite of your typical Antifa member who thinks, oh, you know, this country sucks.

It's always been non-stop oppression.

It's awful.

When someone comes from another country and has actually experienced that stuff in real life and they come here, you realize how much they appreciate it.

You know, it's amazing.

Revolutions are always started by usually rich 20-somethings.

And every 20-something in our society is rich in the world's eyes.

And they have nothing to do but think and complain and, you know, be a revolutionary because I go against the grain.

Yeah, and because I know my parents are stupid.

And it's always that, always that.

That's a little old now, but it was a few years ago.

And if you are at our poverty level, our poverty level in the United States, so in the worst situation possible, you are better off than 85% of the rest of the world.

Not the rest of the world's poor, but all the people in the rest of the world.

If you're at our poverty level, you're better off than 85% of them.

And that doesn't even include the freedoms and such.

That doesn't calculate.

That's just financial.

Look at this.

Look at the way America, who even the poverty-line people, are better off than 85%.

Look how we just hoard everything.

Damn straight, yo.

That's not that.

Proud of it.

Proud of it.

Look, there's a reason.

Reason why this has worked.

Yeah, we're not hoarding it.

There is enough for everybody.

You just have to apply the principles.

And honestly, I bet that stat isn't quite as impressive as it was a few years ago because of that difference, because we've had a little bit of a pullback to the

wrong direction.

And the rest of the world, while they're still,

I'd still rather live here than anywhere else, have adopted some of the things that capitalism brings and have improved things.

And thankfully, thank God for that.

You know, billions of children now are living lives instead of dying at eight years old.

They're living longer lives and are able to be fed and well-nourished.

It's a great innovation capitalism has brought to this country.

We're happy to share it.

You should embrace it, the rest of the world.

And a lot of them don't.

And quite honestly,

a lot of us don't either.

And lately, it seems like more and more.

That's the problem.

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I don't know if you saw the Tucker interview with Orbon.

I don't know how I feel about Victor Orban, other than he's right for his country.

He would not be necessarily good for our country.

You know, I don't know.

But,

you know, there are different things.

For instance, Putin is really horrible, really horrible.

However, to keep that country together and not go into chaos, you need somebody like that.

I don't like that, but it's like, you know, you get rid of Saddam Hussein and the entire thing melts down because

we divided the Middle East up and made these warring tribes, if you will, into a country.

And then we said, yeah, he'll keep them down.

And they never wanted to be united.

So

the question is, do we want to be united?

Tucker said to him, his last question was,

you had a tough election and Americans don't know, but millions of their tax dollars went against you.

and for the other candidate who I don't even know.

Do you know who that was, Stu?

Who ran against Victor Orban?

I don't know.

I don't have any idea.

I didn't even know Victor Orban was really going through an election because he's not of my concern.

And why is our State Department picking winners and losers in other countries?

That's reprehensible.

Reprehensible.

Yeah, and most.

I mean, like, I, you know, certainly would we've opposed brutal dictators before.

He's a member of NATO, I believe.

No, I'm not saying this particular case.

I'm saying in some cases, I think it's appropriate for us to oppose.

And sometimes we've done it, obviously militarily, behind the scenes, but even just rhetorically, I think it's

fine.

Yeah.

To say, hey,

they should change what they're doing.

But you want money going into ad campaigns and everything else?

No, no, that's ridiculous.

That is ridiculous.

Can you imagine if Russia was actually buying ad campaigns and had money behind the, you know, one candidate or another?

Imagine if, you know, let's say $20 million was given to Joe Biden by China.

And

all right, that's a bad example, but we don't accept that.

And here we are doing it.

We should generally keep our nose out of everybody's business.

Keep our nose out of everybody's business.

People rule their nations in all sorts of weird ways that we're not comfortable with, and that's okay.

And so he said,

so Tucker said, you know, you were in a tough election.

It didn't end up that way.

He won in pretty much a landslide.

And he said,

did you ever think about putting your opponent in jail?

And he said, no, that's not the way we do things in Hungary.

He said, that's the way the communists did it.

He said, we don't do that in Hungary.

He said, I didn't think you did that.

in your country.

And he then went on and said something really important.

The reason why you don't do that

is because you will never get the country to reunite.

You will forever separate as us versus them

because one side won't forgive you for doing that.

And then the other side will say, really?

You're going to play that game?

I'll do it to you.

And you immediately divide your country.

He said, the president of a country, if you want it to stay together, has got to be a uniting force and somebody who is saying, all citizens, all citizens, I represent.

When's the last time you heard that?

Now, this is supposedly coming from a fascist.

And in our country, that's probably what you would call him.

But in his country, I don't think, I mean, the people are electing him

handily.

Could it turn out horribly?

Yeah, it could.

I don't know.

But the things he says, some of them make sense.

Like that, you don't arrest your opposition or you will forever divide your country.

Cannot believe that needs to be said.

Especially in this country, especially right now, especially with this particular ex-president who was...

harangued on the campaign trail by the media constantly because his audiences were chanting lock her up.

And they all said, that's it's a banana republic.

You can't do that.

You can't even chant that.

He didn't, this wasn't talking about the actual arrest.

This was talking about a chant and a rally, which most people, I think, believed, you know, like there, no one really believed that it was necessarily going to happen.

Maybe not no one.

That's my opinion.

I guess some people did.

And then some people, I thought it was, I didn't want him to do it.

you know, lock her up.

It went through the system.

The system was flawed.

Leave it alone.

But I thought she should have gone to jail.

Yeah.

And I think there's that, you can argue it's not the right place or the night, the right way to talk about it in a political rally.

Like I can understand that point of view.

However, I don't understand the point of view for saying that and then cheering on every new indictment or lawsuit that Donald Trump faces.

Now, that

we all understand looking at a system like this, when you're talking about two political parties going against each other, we all understand that

the law could be used as a weapon in that battle.

When one side has power, they can use the law against the other side.

We've always stayed away from that, or almost always stayed away from it in our nation's history.

But a couple of the reasons why is we have real pressure releases to that system.

We have

the voting.

We have a democratic process that allows people to say, hey, we're going to take this on our own.

We're going to look at all this on our our own.

Don't get in the way.

Don't try this with your one party attacking the other party legally.

Let us get involved.

We're going to make that decision.

That pressure valve is there.

And the other one is impeachment, where you have a process that, while it is political, is really out in the open.

And you can hold the people who make those votes responsible if you think they're misusing that power.

Instead, what we're doing here is going around both of those things.

And look, we all understand if someone decided it was a serial killer and and was also president, they should go to jail.

There's no question about that.

But the standard should be really high.

The standard level of proof should be really high.

I talked to someone who is more in favor than I am of Trump going to jail for all of this stuff.

And

I said, look, look, you better have Donald Trump on tape saying,

I know I lost the election.

However, I'm going to manipulate this process because I should remain in power because I'm super duper awesome.

You should have him on tape saying that.

And they say, well, we'll never get that.

And you know what?

You probably won't.

But what does that tell you?

That tells you that you should have a standard that looks toward that level of evidence.

And if you don't have it, you shouldn't go down this road.

Use these other paths that have been provided to you.

And, you know, to go down this road with like, well, you know, a lot of people that Donald Trump despised told him he was wrong is not a legitimate level of evidence in this case.

You have to do better than that.

You should have to do better than that.

Because while we say yes, no one's above the law, the standards for politicians in some ways should be higher.

The reason for that is not because they have some level of

royalty, but because we know the motivations of the political system.

We know that one side is going to try to take out their opponents.

So you have to guard against that and make it really super clear.

If you're going to go throw a president in jail, man, that evidence must be really, really crystal clear and the crime must be really, really high on the scale.

Well, the Democrats used to know that.

They used to at least espouse that with Bill Clinton, that it has to be really, really, super high.

Yeah.

Now, it's just weird because I don't know how super, super high it has to be because

literally there doesn't seem to be any crimes here.

Okay.

No,

I don't know.

The racketeering thing is so weak.

So weak.

You're going to have problems with that.

They're going to have problems with that.

Oh, that'll go away.

The thing in New York is super, super weak.

The thing in Florida,

I think, is really weak just because of precedence.

I mean,

Joe Biden had records that he had

when he was in the Senate.

He still had them.

So come on, you can't.

I mean...

I know.

Look, I think he didn't help himself there.

No, I know that he made his life more miserable with that particular one.

But my, my, like, they're going to have some legal evidence on that one.

It's just to me, the charge is

ridiculous.

So here's the thing.

This is what you're saying is keep the standard high.

But I don't understand the standard because it is so low, it charges him with things that everybody does.

And it seems all politically motivated.

Okay.

From from the White House.

It seems politically motivated.

That should never happen, even on our side, ever.

But then their standard is also so high

that a president taking money,

and even if it didn't go to him,

but it went to 10

people in his family through

money laundering routes to shell companies, I don't know.

Do you, what's, what's higher than that?

You could say, well, murder.

Well, yeah, murder, that's bad.

But, you know, if it was a crime of passion, it's still murder in the first degree.

But I got news for you.

He, he is selling all 350 million of us out.

You've betrayed the country that keeps all of us safe.

Honestly, I cannot think of anything higher than that.

I really can't.

And look, I think the standard should be high on Joe Biden, too.

You know, if all we had was the WhatsApp message, right, where

Hunter is saying, hey, sitting here next to the dad,

we need you to make this payment, or we're going to punish you and

hold this against you, a grudge and get revenge.

Like, that is evidence.

But if we didn't have payments and all sorts of other pieces of evidence, it wouldn't be enough.

It shouldn't be enough.

It shouldn't just be indications.

That sort of evidence can be judged by the people and they can say, hey, I think that's too much.

I'm not voting for Joe Biden.

And

if you are saying there's not enough evidence,

well,

just this.

Everything that Joe Biden told you was true is now a proven lie.

It's now a proven

lie.

Nobody in my family made made any money.

I didn't know about Hunter's business.

I never talked to any of his business partners.

I never talked to him about it.

All lies.

All lies.

Proven lies.

Proven lies.

They should not result in a conviction in a court of law, but they should make you not vote for this guy.

And that should be enough.

That's how we deal with these things.

Maybe it's even rises to the level of impeachment.

I think there's a good chance that it does.

I think there's a good chance Republicans launch an impeachment inquiry based on these pieces of evidence.

And that will give them a lot more authority to go after more evidence to prove these things to be true or not.

I've never seen a case clearer for impeachment than a president possibly selling his country out.

While in office.

While in office.

I mean, that is that if they're, if that's not the highest of high crimes for a political impeachment, I mean, I think the guy should go to jail, but more importantly, he should be, we should teach each other the lesson that can never,

ever happen.

Ever.

And the latest piece of evidence with the Shokin situation in Ukraine is amazing.

Was it John Solomon telling us about that yesterday?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Where

the whole idea was everyone agreed this guy was corrupt.

And that's why Joe Biden was bragging about withholding a billion dollars of aid to Ukraine so he would get fired.

Not because of the Hunter Biden stuff.

Everyone agreed this guy was corrupt.

And now we learned the behind-the-scenes analysis of this at the time.

That the State Department said he's good.

Yeah.

Give him the money.

Right.

I mean, and he said the president and state department were with me.

Remember?

Yeah, that was totally his case.

Yeah.

And it was a case that was accepted by every mainstream outlet.

I honestly, to be...

to be frank about it, had no idea if that guy was good or bad.

Like, who the hell knows?

For what are we, some Ukrainian prosecutor?

What do I know about that?

We didn't know anything about it at the time.

All of the reporting was this guy was really bad.

And of course, this was justified.

Well, we now know the State Department disagreed with that.

Years and years later, that's when we find out.

I mean, if it wasn't for Joe Biden bragging on that stage that he did this and withheld this money for this reason, this would be a much more difficult case to work through.

But he's on tape saying he did it.

And at the same time, he is sending hundreds of millions of dollars over to the exact same people.

I've talked to you a lot about ESG, the environmental, social, and governance initiative that companies are just, I love.

Even BlackRock is like,

I love, but I don't love quite so much.

They have $9.4 trillion in assets, and now they're rethinking the ESG stance.

They found many ESG efforts to be overreaching, potentially not serving the best interest as investors.

So I got to say, if BlackRock is having second thoughts, well, what does that say?

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