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Number 45, the President of the United States, Donald Trump, joins me on today's program for a one-on-one.

We begin in 60 seconds.

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Okay, well, let's see.

Yesterday we found out that

Donald Trump's federal election interference trial in Washington, D.C.

is set for March 4th,

which is one day before Super Tuesday,

in which Donald Trump is running for nomination to have a second term, which would make this

election interference, which might make the election interference trial a little,

I don't know, ironic.

Are you talking about the coincidence on the calendar that this thing just happened?

Yeah.

Unbelievable.

You're saying they did that intentionally?

I guess.

Wait, are you?

Wait, you're trying to accuse the courts

of placing this trial one day before the biggest day of the primary for some intentional reason.

They knew that was the day.

They knew it right there.

I know it's crazy, right?

But I know they just actually open up the calendar and they close their eyes and they're like, this one.

Yeah.

And then they looked and they're like, day before Super Tuesday, what a coincidence.

Oh, my.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Then the defamation lawsuit brought by Gene Carroll

is set to go to trial on January 15th, coinciding with the first in the nation Iowa Republican presidential caucus.

So again, a wild coincidence.

It's really strange.

It's really strange.

It's really strange all of the days.

Yeah, now, by the way, the breakdown on this is 10% of the delegates in the primary will be awarded before the trial.

During the trial, 65 to 71% of delegates will be awarded during the trial.

During the trial.

And then the last 19 to 26 after the trial.

That's crazy, isn't it?

It's crazy.

What a coincidence.

So weird.

So weird.

Now, the trial in the documents case on Trump is set to begin on May 20th in Florida.

And that's the day that Maryland and West Virginia are slated to hold their primaries.

A few more in Idaho, Kentucky, and Oregon have their schedule just

the next day.

Just the next day.

And I think, too, like, correct me if you're different, Glenn, but my expectation for our system

would be that this is totally blind, right?

Like, they would just, it would have nothing to do with the primaries.

They would not place these.

That's what I would want or

what I would aspire to.

But I actually think, I was thinking about this a little bit this morning.

And that I actually think

my aspirations should be higher than that, in that they should be intentionally avoiding this.

Yes.

Like they should actually

go out of their way to make sure.

Are you saying they didn't do that?

Because the Fulton,

Fulton County District Attorney has picked another day for the start of her trial.

Okay.

And

that's March 4th,

which is

the same date now selected for the federal election case.

Yes, that's the same.

That's this day before Super Tuesday.

Right.

And a week before Georgia's primary on March 12th.

So other than that, Stu, I mean, what are you saying exactly?

They're saying they should have gone out of their way to avoid.

Well, Trump said this needs to start after the presidency.

He voted in 2026

initially.

Correct.

And then, of course, obviously, if he was president, it would be delayed till

2029.

Yeah.

Which, again, okay.

I'm fine with that.

You know, there's a lot to go through.

If you wanted to place it,

I mean, maybe you could argue, you could place it in between the primary.

I don't even know what's so again, like, none of this, this should not be the way this works.

Yeah.

The founders had a couple of different ways that this would work.

Okay.

Number one, like, they said, hey, what if people just decided who they wanted to vote for?

That was one way.

That was one way.

Another thing they decided was: hey, if you want to go through a process like this, you use impeachment for a public official.

Because everyone knew if you were just able to use the the laws of the land against your political opponents it would it would it would be bad bad people would manipulate it because they'd want they'd have a secondary thought it wouldn't just be justice is blind right it would be hey my political opponent i want them to lose we should use the laws against them you know i think justice is uh is not only blind but deaf and dumb and i mean dumb you know the like like dummy dumb okay dumb dumb you know what i mean yeah um because uh it's weird um They're claiming that they won the election.

This is the Fulton case.

Donald Trump said that he won the election, but then they did a recount.

And he still said,

I won the election.

And there's no way he could have believed that because they already did a recount, which reminds me of Stacey Abram,

George Bush.

I mean, you know, I've seen the recount thing happen before, and

then I've seen Democrats say, you know, no, I was elected, and this was fraudulent, and they didn't go to jail.

That's weird.

I watched a clip recently online.

It was five straight minutes of just one to two sentence denials of Democrats losing elections.

Now, of course, we know they do that.

I don't aspire to be like Stacey Abrams.

No.

And that's not something anyone should aspire to.

But he does have the right to think the opposite of what everyone's telling him.

Like, otherwise, we have to have mind readers.

In these cases, they're like,

We know Donald Trump knew he lost the election because all these people around him who he currently hates told him so.

That's right.

So, well, okay.

You know, like, I all right.

As the walls were closing in and he realized I've been betrayed by everyone, those people came in and said, No, sir,

you didn't win.

Oh, okay, that makes a lot of sense.

Now,

if you're if you're talking about any of this, you, of course are on a list, I'm sure.

Now, there is a story circulating online that Google is banning independent media from search results.

That is coming.

My staff and I have looked into this claim for two weeks, and we cannot verify any of that.

And we'd really like to know because we're an independent media source and Google stops using, you know, blocks us on search.

That's kind of a problem.

But our research brought us back to a Google initiative that launched in 2017 called the Data Commons Project.

Now, their goal is to organize and standardize data and make it available to consumers, journalists, policymakers, and researchers.

They said this data is revolutionary and it can be used to solve pressing problems like climate change.

Hmm.

Now that's an important thing.

Use to solve pressing problems like climate change.

Why do I say that's important?

Well, because I wonder if this new algorithm and this new group will give you stories like this from just the news.

More than 1,600 scientists have declared the climate emergency a myth.

They have just signed a declaration stating that there is no climate emergency, and they strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net zero CO2 policy being pushed across the globe.

The declaration does not deny the harmful effect of greenhouse gases, but instead challenges the hysteria brought out about our imminent doom.

The declaration put together by the Global Climate Intelligence Group.

Now, who is that?

It's gotta be a big oil.

Well, no, actually, it's

a group that urges climate science should be less political while climate policy should be more scientific.

It is an independent foundation that operates in the fields of climate change and climate policy.

It was founded in 2019 by Emeritus Professor of Geophysics Gus Bruckhaut and scientist journalist Marcel Kroc.

They say

the 1,609 scientists who have signed the declaration, including two Nobel Prize winners, Dr.

John F.

Klauser, winner of the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics,

said that misguided climate

science has metastasized into massive shock journalistic pseudoscience.

In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a wide variety of other unrelated ills.

It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business marketing agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and environmentalists, and it needs to stop.

Now,

no word if they, because I don't really take this seriously.

I mean, yes, they've got a couple of Nobel Prize winning scientists, you know, at the top of the list there, but do they have Bill Nye, the science guy?

I don't know.

I don't know.

But, you know, because he really, he's on TV a lot telling us what we should know about climate.

And the more you're on TV, the more true your science gets, right?

Amen, brother.

Okay, so not sure if this data is truly revolutionary and would help solve the pressing problems like climate change because the science isn't settled.

Google is hardly unbiased, and you know that.

I don't expect their data to be unbiased either, and neither should you.

But we couldn't find that they were censoring

sources like ours.

However,

Just yesterday during the program, I reached out because I wanted more detail on the embarrassing Bidenomics whiteboard video on Google.

And so during the show, one of my producers shot a message to her and I said, hey, can you get the details on this?

So she typed in Bidenomics whiteboard video.

Now let me show you the full screen here.

This is what the full screen said from Google.

If you're watching, screenshot here, at the top of the page, it says, it looks like the results below are changing quickly.

If this topic is new, it can sometimes take time for reliable sources to publish information.

Check the source.

Are you sure they're trusted on this topic?

Come back later because other sources may have more information on this topic in a few hours or days.

Now,

nothing about Joe Biden is fast moving.

Nothing about this whiteboard was fast moving.

Social media had a whole buttload of memes out about it, but that's not what we asked for.

We asked for the video.

So

what search results were changing quickly?

This is a video that the White House put out.

What reliable sources are we waiting for and what does that even mean?

So we did the same thing.

We went to Yahoo and looked for Bidenomics.

We went to Bing, Bidenomics.

We went to DuckDuckGo and Bidenomics.

Yeah, none of them issued a warning before the search results.

Only Google.

Now, this is

information interference.

It's subtle.

Google didn't outright prevent my producer from finding the video she was looking for, but it did try to plant the seeds of doubt.

that what she was about to see may not be true.

The problem is Google is the number one search engine in the world, and they're trying to pass as an unbiased source, and you know they're not.

The sensational stories grab our attention.

Google censors independent media.

But the threat is actually much, much more subtle.

Every day, online, there is a battle for your thoughts.

How many of us turn to Google as like the magic eight ball looking for answers?

These answers start to shape our sense of reality usually without any of us knowing.

Google may not be outright banning dissidents, but they are manipulating us.

You know that.

Just a quick reminder not to take the bait.

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So, what's really strange is

how much parody and art is coming

true today.

If you watch the series Black Mirror, there's a couple of them that are absolutely must-watches.

One of them is

about a woman who experiences a credit score and what it's like when

your

ESG score goes awry

and

It is it should frighten every American.

It should have them say okay We got to stop that right now.

It seemed crazy when it first came out, and now we have ESG scores.

The next thing that they were talking about was, I think it was this season.

I think it's the first episode of this season, Joan is Awful, I think it's called.

Yeah, it's the first one this season.

And

Zoom just came out with an update to their agreement.

And if you didn't read it, you should have read it.

It says in there that they can take your likeness, your conversation, all of it, all of it, and use it any way they want.

Now, when they said that, it was like, well, wait, hold it.

What?

What is that?

No, I don't think so.

It became their property.

Now, they've come out since and said, well, we're not going to use AI to make stuff up.

And we'll alert you if we do.

Oh, okay.

I want you to listen to a scene where in Joan is awful, where

she realizes that her life has been made into a TV series.

And they're just monitoring her every move because she's on social media.

Here's her meeting with her attorney.

I am Roman Catholic.

My grandmother Rosa was going to be a nun.

She might die when she sees this.

What right do they have to kill my abuela with this deep, fake, heretic abomination?

Your image rights agreement with Streenberry, it's page 39, paragraph 8, specifically covers any acts or behaviors Joan may exhibit up to, including, and beyond defecation.

Beyond defecation?

Beyond.

That's what it says.

You know, I don't read this crap.

I am a dyslexic, talented actress with questionable English.

That's why I overpaid you to protect me.

What can you do to erase this image from every machine in the world?

Nothing.

Okay, so this is Selma Hayek, obviously, and she plays Joan.

She becomes upset because Joan just starts to do awful, awful things

to get Selma Hayek to stop playing her.

But Selma Hayek isn't playing her.

It's an AI contract and

it's imaging her and it's taking everything Joan did that day and rewriting it a little bit, making Joan look even worse.

But it's her life.

That's what Zoom was entering into, not saying that they were going to do that, but they had the right to do that

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I got an email from Sabo, the street graffiti guy.

And he said, hey, I just made something with Donald Trump's mugshot.

And here it is.

If

you're watching Blaze TV, you can.

It's the mugshot with Donald Trump, except he's got cornrows.

And it's a campaign ad, and it just says, re-elect Cornpop.

One bad dude.

I remember that guy from that really terrible story

that Joe Biden told.

Which terrible story because Corn Pop was such a bad dude.

Or was it because that's the story that came right out of and the little black children were petting my legs.

Yeah, so that part was the disturbing part, yeah.

Right.

Corn pop, you know, we never met corn pop.

Are you saying that Donald Trump may not be corn pop?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I would not be surprised.

But re-elect corn pop, one bad dude.

I'm trying to convince the Blaze to,

you know,

they're cautious.

you know, obviously.

But

I'd wear that t-shirt.

I would wear that t-shirt.

It's, yeah, it's because it's Donald Trump, not exactly his mug shot, but close to his mug shot.

Yeah.

There's some alterations.

Yeah, an artist.

There's an artist rendering.

Rendering of it.

Yeah.

And then with some alterations.

Cornrows.

That's really pretty much, that's really pretty much it.

It's just that.

So, you know, we got that.

We got that going for us.

Got that going for us.

Now, there is

an article that was written by Emma Joe Morris that I think is worth

reading verbatim.

Listen to this.

Leading up to the 2024 election, there are a number of pressing issues Americans will consider.

Rampant illegal immigration, skyrocketing inflation, the price of living, violent crime marring cities.

But those issues are now against the backdrop of a palpatable shift towards authoritarianism.

And a vote for Trump in 2024 will be a vote of defiance.

She writes, this is not the personal endorsement of the author, but a statement of what the author believes to be fact for countless Americans.

The American people have been watching over the years as the government authoritarian tendencies have been revealed, first through coronavirus lockdowns and vaccine mandates, then the vast and coordinated censorship of the New York Post's laptop from hell reporting, and now multiple indictments against the former president Donald Trump with a jarring image of his mugshot being released to the public on Thursday.

At the beginning of 2020, purportedly free people were told they were not allowed to go to work.

They couldn't go to church.

Their children weren't allowed to go to school.

They were going to be barred from playing outside in parks because the experts claimed these activities were too dangerous for American citizens based on now dubious and incomplete data.

American citizens were made to cover their faces in public, a universal symbol of submission, even though there was no health-related justification for that edict other than particular rare masks in particular cases.

American citizens had their movements tracked and their health information put in databases, measures that could have been lifted from any dystopian fiction.

Corporate interests and power centers thrived while normal people suffered.

But people, for the most part, kept their heads down and waited for the moment to pass.

There are now indications that some or all of these measures may be reinstated come August.

The or autumn, the same year, the American people, who were ostensibly have free speech rights, were prevented from reading a series of news reports that were immediately relevant to their upcoming presidential election, describing an apparent scheme to peddle influence by one of the candidates.

They would later learn that their government, in coordination with some of the largest and most influential media and communication companies, worked together to ensure that information would be censored in order to ensure the outcome of that election.

See, this is what's really incredible.

That affected the election according to polls.

People who voted for Joe Biden said, had they known, they wouldn't have voted for Joe Biden, and it was a 15-point swing.

Now, imagine what all of this stuff on Donald Trump is doing to him.

Data would emerge that the goal was achieved, that censorship of these stories did secure the election, and votes were cast under false pretenses because of efforts of intelligence agencies.

And again, corporate interests and power centers thrived while normal people suffered.

But still, people for the most part kept their heads down and waited for the moment to pass.

Every time one of these incidents occurred, we lamented about how unprecedented the event event was, but still went about our lives and waited for the moment to pass.

This time, however, feels different.

As the American people watch an escalation with the leader of the political opposition being hounded and threatened with jail and the death penalty.

The escalation is indicating to the American public that going about our lives and waiting for the moment to pass is not going to work.

It signals that every time we put our heads down, those in power see an opportunity to seize even more power.

The bureaucratic establishment, the corporate establishment, the political

establishment, while Trump was president and since, has been in a sustained effort to undermine him, attack us, and grow its power.

And now Trump is emerging as the, if just symbolic, mechanism to counter that effort.

Voting for Trump over other Republicans or over Biden won't necessarily be because of his policies.

That will be the the last thing on some voters' minds.

It will be an act of defiance against our government and institutions that are openly oppressing people and information they deem threatening to their self-interest and self-preservation.

In the release of Trump's mugshot, a photo that will go down in infamy, The election has been turned into a referendum on authoritarianism.

The opposition started about being about closing the border and lowering inflation and alleviate the pressure on the working and middle class caused by the recklessness of the elites.

But now the mandate has shifted and has become more general to restore freedom by decimating the establishment and the bureaucracy and the experts.

The release of that photo on Thursday was evocative of flag burning.

It had a visual assault on everything we know about this country and and what it is to be, and the desecration of everything this country has stood for.

It had also transmitted a signal to the nation: this game is going to be a zero-sum game.

That is from Emma Joe Morris,

who

I heed that warning.

I think she's right.

We are headed into very, very

dangerous territory

because

we are entering the time now

where only a strong man will be able to hold things together.

Only a strong man will be able to promise you, I'm going to clean up the streets, I'm going to protect the dollar, you know, I'm going to win the war, all of these things.

And that could go either way because one side is screaming that you got to stop stop the parents from complaining because they're hurting their kids by not letting them, you know, have their gender and their bodies mutilated.

One side is saying that we have to shut any opposition up because they're slowing down the progress.

One side is marching off to war.

Well, the other side seems to be marching behind, but at least marching with, to war.

The other side is demanding truth and an end to this madness,

absolute madness.

Who's going to stop it?

Now I think that there are real ways that can be done constitutionally, but I warn you there is going to come a time where even on our side, Many will say, screw the Constitution.

There are things we have to do.

That is always trouble.

Always a sign you don't want to be in that group.

Please

be aware of this.

There are forces

on many fronts,

on the left who wants to destroy the Constitution, and those now posing as the right, but they're not the right.

They're the fascistic left.

In America, the choice is not right or left.

It is either anarchy or complete control.

Right now, the people that are in the driver's seat and the people coming up now in the right, who are disguising themselves as conservatives, do not wish to conserve.

They wish to destroy.

It's why there are those progressive Republicans that are so into war.

There are many Republicans that don't speak out about the things going on with Donald Trump right now because they'd like those tools themselves.

And if they could just get control of this system, why, then we'd be fixed.

No, we'll still be as broken.

But they want you to be angry, so you lose all reason,

and you say, it's too far gone.

It's only too far gone when there is no one standing for the Constitution.

It's only too far gone when all of the voices are saying the same thing.

Get them.

I have Donald Trump on today in our three,

and I'm really excited to talk to him

because

I've never seen anything like this, and we keep saying this every day.

Never seen anything like this.

This is obviously a coordinated attack.

How is he going to run a campaign and stay on the road when he's in court all the time?

How is he planning on fighting?

If he gets in, they're not going to stop.

They're not going to stop.

What happens if he goes to jail?

And does he have a solution for us?

I mean, most people are really, truly struggling now, and it's just the beginning.

The economy needs to be turned around.

But all of the solutions that are currently being proposed are the exact opposite of what we need.

Does he have hope for us?

What is his path to hope?

Donald Trump will join me coming up on today's broadcast podcast.

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And I want to tell you that I prayed really hard today

on whether to give you a piece of advice or not.

And I prayed really hard.

Is this just me or do you want me to say this?

And

I just don't think it's right yet.

I could be wrong, but I'm praying hard on something

because we are knife's edge close.

We are knife's edge close.

Anything could happen with the way Donald Trump is being treated.

If they put him in jail, do you think people are going to react nicely to that?

If,

God forbid, we haven't, thank God, have not had an assassination of anyone.

But if there was an assassination,

America is not the place we were even in the 1960s during all those assassinations.

We're not those people right now, and we've got to become those people quickly.

Yeah, it feels like we're very close to the edge and things spinning out of control.

And we do not seem to be connected to those sort of,

you know, principles that would restrain activity that would overturn kind of what the country's built on.

Imagine if there was an assassination and

the streets were on fire

from either side.

Right.

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The cries of make it stop

would

be exactly what anyone who wanted to be a dictator would need.

That's it.

I mean, all of this stuff, they are poking and prodding because they need you to react that way because they're ready to shut it down.

They're ready to take it away that's how close we are and you've added you know there's been multiple years of turmoil and strife and upending people's lives and destroying them and you know cities burned to the ground and lockdowns and all that pressure building for all of this time you know you throw together a terrible event like you're talking about or a financial collapse or uh you know uh any of it any of it you know that's really like the only thing that brings me any hope in that is just i have faith and I believe there are higher powers and we will need them.

We're going to need them.

We're going to need them.

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There is a very disturbing, I think, first shot across the bow of homeowners saying

you, if you own a home, you're going to become mighty unpopular soon.

There is this movement to make sure you own nothing

and you're happy about it.

Wait until you hear the latest on home ownership and how it's holding back the U.S.

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So let me give you this story from Axios quickly.

America's decades-long love affair with home ownership is holding back the economy and hobbling the Federal Reserve and exacerbating a national housing crisis.

We're stuck here now.

There's just too much wealth stored in too many houses for anything to meaningful change.

The big picture is life is unpredictable journey.

People change where they want and need to live all the time.

And a country with 66% home ownership rate is not conducive to that.

They're talking about how

home ownership is trapping people.

And the youth is trying to find a place to live, but all the houses are trapped,

you know, by rich people or people who've owned their homes for a long time or people who have an interest rate at, you know, 2%.

And so they can't, they don't want to leave it because they'll never get a loan that is that close to that.

And so where are you going to go?

So it's trapping all of us.

And this has been bad.

This has been very bad.

20 years ago, it says,

in the third quarter of 2003, there were 83 million owners that occupied homes in America.

They were changing hands at the rate of 6.5 million homes.

Today, the number of homeowners is 96 million, but the rate of existing home sales has slumped to 4 million homes per year.

Excuse me, we've been told our whole life, in fact, the lie that the American dream is home ownership, and that's all it is, that's been pushed since FDR.

Home ownership, home ownership.

In fact, we got into the 08 crisis because the government was pushing home ownership.

Everybody became overextended.

Now they're pushing for you to get rid of your home.

Carol Roth is joining us now.

She is the author of You Will Own Nothing.

former investment banker and good friend of the program.

Carol, welcome.

Good to see you, Glenn.

It's pretty amazing, isn't it?

When you see the media who wants to take the biggest asset on households' balance sheet, a thing that creates wealth for middle America around the nation.

And now they're telling you it's a bad thing.

Isn't that really surprising?

It is.

You know, John Huntsman Sr.

told me one point: he said, Glenn, don't be the guy that owns the oil well.

Don't be the guy that owns the water well.

Be the guy who searches for the water, who purifies the water.

because whoever owns the scarce product, whoever owns it, will be the bad guy and they'll come for you.

And I think he was absolutely right.

I just didn't think it would happen with homes, but I think this is the first shot of the government trying to get people out of their homes.

And, you know, hey, we'll give you even a bigger tax break if you sell your house.

What?

And you're going to give me money over land?

No, thank you.

I would offer that it's the second shot.

You know, this is something that I wrote extensively about in You Will Own Nothing.

Obviously, the policies that followed the Great Recession financial crisis gave a ton of cheap available capital to Wall Street.

It bailed out the banks.

And we know that Americans lost about 6 million homes to foreclosures and short sales.

And following that,

I was going to say, and maybe this is the point you were going to make.

And they took that money from us.

And then they went out because they had so much money, had to do something with it.

They bought up homes.

Yeah, so we obviously share a brain.

That's exactly what I was going to say.

So before 2010, as we've talked about, there was no meaningful Wall Street corporate institutional money in the single family home market.

Now CoreLogic says at the end of 2022, more than one in every five homes in America is being bought by a corporate entity.

So that is sort of the first shift.

But now you have this gentleman from Axios, who is one of the economic media darlings, if you will, coming out and not only saying, oh, it's a really, it's a problem that you own your home.

It's really a problem that you have this asset that's creating legacy wealth for you and your family, but the mental gymnastics that it took for him to get there, oh, this is holding back.

the economy and this is crippling the Fed, as if it wasn't the Fed policy and and the government policy that got us here in the first place.

Right, that are crippling us.

The fact that you're trying to say, oh, poor Fed, let's all cry for the Fed.

This is the Fed's issue.

The reason people are stuck in their homes, which you alluded to, and we don't have the turnover, isn't because people are trying to hoard wealth.

It's because they literally cannot find another home.

There's not enough supply.

And part of that reason, like we said, is all of the cheap capital that went in and drove up the prices of homes.

So the price of the house is insane.

And then at the same time, we've had a Fed that have changed

their federal funds rates, which affect the mortgage rate.

So people are locked in at 3.5%,

and now it's going to be 7.5% to get the mortgage.

You can have one or the other.

You can have an increasing home price, but cheap mortgages, or you can have, you know, a high mortgage rate, but a cheap house, but you cannot have both of those at the same time.

When you have both of those, you are not going to get people to move in the house.

And the idea that they're blaming you for creating wealth instead of blaming the arsonists who burnt down the economy, the government, and the Fed is absolutely despicable.

But again, it falls under: you will own nothing and you will be happy.

We will own things, we will be great as the elite, but you, you shouldn't own things because that's holding back the economy.

This is as bad as stealing our history from us and repositioning our entire history that our founders were bad and everything else.

They are taking something that

was not known as the American dream.

The American dream was to come here, be able to own something,

you know, your own land or whatever, but it wasn't the, you know, white picket fence and the home.

That wasn't it.

It was that you could own your idea, your business, your own land, and you did, you were the steward of that, and nobody could touch it.

For them to take this idea and completely twist it around to where we're going back to the kings and the king's minions own the land and we can rent it from them is astounding, astounding.

Well, let me tie this into your dark future thesis, which I also talk about.

So think about the implications from a social social credit perspective as well.

Oh, yeah.

You know, when you own your home, there is a level of sovereignty there, right?

You can do what you want to do in your home.

If you now rent from one of the Wall Street cronies and have the ability to have more homes turn over because it's better for the economy, Glenn,

then now Wall Street becomes a de facto arm of the government.

They don't want you to have firearms.

They don't want you to have gas stoves.

You did whatever.

Now all of a sudden, well, I'm sorry, you violated your renters agreement.

You can no longer live here.

We can't have that going on.

So the importance of having the home, not only the largest wealth creator for families on a legacy basis, but also that individual sovereignty, that ability to say, this is my domain.

I can do with it what I please.

I can do, you know, underneath it what I please.

And I don't have to follow your instructions instead of being, as you said, that at serf to the ruling class.

This is incredibly, incredibly nefarious.

And we have to make sure people own things.

We have to make sure they preserve that key piece of freedom.

It's why property rights are that essential

leg of the stool in terms of our individual rights and our freedoms.

It was

religion

and speech and property.

Those, that was the basic idea of America.

You owned your speech and your thought.

You owned

your life and liberty and what you wanted to do, and you could own property because in every other country you couldn't own property.

You had to be granted the land from the state, from the king.

Well, that's what they're doing right now.

The king is just coming in and wanting to take all of this land back, not necessarily for the king, but for all of his cronies, all of the lords and the ladies who are running the companies.

Right.

And they're trying to get you to buy into that you'll be happy piece, or at least guilt you into it.

This is, you know, you're holding back the economy.

This is bad for everybody.

You know, we can't grow and prosper, you know, if you don't give up your house.

But they need you to buy into being happy.

They need you to go along with this psyop because it's much easier for them to affect change and to hoard the wealth for themselves if you go along with it than if you're pushing back.

Then they have to do it by force.

And obviously that's not a good thing.

And so when you look at the young people of this country, Glenn, that's what's happening to them.

They're being groomed and trained to rent things, to, you know, basically have their life as a subscription or a service.

We're seeing it in technology.

We're seeing it in other areas.

And because the home ownership is so unattainable for so many of these young people, because not only do they have those high home prices we're we're talking about and high mortgage costs, but their personal balance sheets are also decimated by the ridiculous college debt loans that they have that they, you know, have a very difficult time paying back because they're not getting an ROI on that.

So it's basically crushing that American dream for them.

And if you don't think something is attainable for you, you put up that defense shield and you go, well, you know, maybe I can't get it.

Maybe I didn't want it in the first place.

This will be a very bad outcome if we don't have more young people who want to own things because we will will return to that feudal society and not have it a society of freedom.

Okay, hang on, Carol.

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So, Carol, I want to talk to you about Kevin O'Leary.

He said that rising interest rates and mortgage costs pose a major threat to households and small businesses.

America is headed towards a rebalance after huge investment in the country's largest companies, while small and mid-sized firms have been neglected.

Inflation is currently at 3.2%, and Fed chair Jay Powell warned last week that the central bank has not ruled out further interest rate hikes to bring it down further.

I'm sorry, the rate currently is 5.5%.

What I anticipate is going to happen here while we still have full employment, which is remarkable, you don't put any capital in the small business sector, which is 60% of the jobs, you're going to start to see some real chaos in September, October, November.

Do Do you understand that or agree with that?

Well, I mean, I think this has been going on for a long time.

Obviously, it's kind of the same thing that we were talking about in the previous

segment.

As these interest rates rise, you have the opposite effect of what happened for the last 15 years.

The last 15 years gave cheap, easy available capital to Wall Street.

They were able to take advantage of it in a way that small businesses couldn't.

And so they have locked in for the large part, you know, a lot of debt at low rates, just like the homeowners locked in low mortgage rates.

When you're a small business owner, you don't have that same capacity.

You're often working off of a personal balance sheet where you're just kind of cobbling things together.

So you had, you didn't have that advantage on the side when they were suppressing the interest rates.

Now, when it is rising, you're also in a worse position.

And you have to remember, we've now had three years just about where small businesses first were closed in large part, about a third of the economy while their big companies stayed open.

And they were hard hit by the supply chain crisis, by the labor crisis.

So just kind of anyone who survived is sort of just hanging on by a thread already.

And then you have now this sort of extra barrier of not being able to have the capital.

So I do think that when you see the cracks, you're going to see it in two places.

We've seen it in one, which were the tech firms that way overhired, but they're normalizing to their pre-pandemic level.

And then you're going to see it with the small businesses who don't have the capacity.

They're at their wits end financially and

otherwise.

And so it ends up being this consolidation where the small businesses can't survive and that business goes to the big businesses and you get this consolidation and the centralization of the economy.

And I think that that is the overarching theme that we continue to fight against is centralization versus the decentralization that stands for freedom.

I wish there was somebody in everybody's home that like a cuckoo clock at the top of every hour would just say, it's the Fed and government, it's the Fed and government, because what they're doing with raising of interest rates, and people don't understand this.

They just hear this and think, oh, it's a mechanism to bring down my inflation.

They don't understand.

What they're trying to do is stop

as close as you can.

It's like chemotherapy.

Get as close as you can to stopping the heart of the economy without actually stopping.

They need you to be unemployed.

They need you to stop spending money.

And the reason why they need that is because they're spending so much money.

We've spent a lot as people.

They've spent much, much, much, much more.

And because they continue to spend all of that, they need you to stop.

And so they're trying to stop the heart of the economy without killing the patient.

It's extraordinary how evil I think this really is.

Yeah, and they never take any responsibility.

Any responsibility.

They don't say, oh, it was, you know, the government spending and this ridiculous, you know, COVID quote-unquote emergency that we had to monetize and that, you know, they spent too much and we had to print too much money.

And so we caused this.

And so now we're fixing our mistake.

No, it's your problem.

You need to do these things.

You need to sell your home because the Fed needs it.

Listen, I've only had two minutes left.

Let me ask you about BRICS.

I'm becoming increasingly concerned that all of these countries all around the world are starting to join in and

cobble together a currency.

When that happens,

we could become Venezuela overnight.

How real is this getting?

All right.

So I probably cannot answer this in a minute and a half, and we're going to have to talk about this.

I think the big takeaway is that with these nations coming together and forging stronger alliances, what they're doing is that they're killing the petro dollar and by

extension, the U.S.

dollar.

They don't even need a new currency.

They didn't unveil a new one.

But if they just do more trade and local currency, that takes away a big source of the financing that the government has been using to expand very cheaply.

And we should definitely do a deep dive into it because there's so much meat there.

Okay, we'll have you back on, Carol.

Thank you so much.

All right.

Thank you.

Carol Roth, the name of her book is You Will Own Nothing.

And if today's Axio story, how homeownership is holding back the U.S.

economy, isn't proof of what she writes about, what I write about in Dark Future, I mean, I can't get any clearer than that particular story.

It is amazing what is happening to us.

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Welcome to the Glenbeck program.

Let's just talk about the weaponization of the government here for just a second.

You know, the DOJ has launched a lawsuit against Elon Musk.

Now, I know you're thinking that's weaponization of of government.

What do you?

I mean, come on, come on.

They're doing the right thing here because he's not allowing anyone who isn't a born American to work

at

SpaceX.

He's not hiring anyone with a green card.

He's not hiring any, you know, asylum seekers or anything else.

And that just can't be done.

That's illegal.

Well, I believe the Justice Department can't hire those people either.

Yeah, that's government.

That's a, you know, that's different.

They got secrets and everything like that.

Yeah.

Do you know that Elon Musk's mom

came down with a Canadian friend?

She's a lawful U.S.

permanent resident with a green card.

Went to SpaceX.

She couldn't go in with Elon Musk's mom

because she's not a permanent U.S.

citizen.

So they just put photos of her friend outside of SpaceX, you know, with the mom.

Mom went in, but she couldn't go in.

So now the Civil Rights Division is suing SpaceX and Elon Musk for not hiring refugees to work at, let me just say it instead of SpaceX,

at rocket sites.

Did you guys, did anybody see

the Manhattan Project?

What was that?

Oppenheimer.

Yeah, Oppenheimer.

You see that?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What didn't they let people do?

Go without a security clearance because that was a bomb.

Now, what did they do after the war?

They didn't let anybody go in because those are top secret.

Our rocket technology is top secret.

So if you're not a U.S.

citizen, not one with a green card, and certainly not a refugee, you can't go into rocket sites.

Really?

Elon Musk has just come out and said, SpaceX was told repeatedly that hiring anyone who is not a permanent resident of the United States would violate international arms trafficking laws, which would be a criminal offense.

We can't even hire Canadian citizens despite Canada being part of NORAD.

So

interesting.

Again,

the weaponization of, it's like they're not even trying now.

They're not even trying.

And they just are so arrogant.

They think they're going to get away with all of it.

And it makes me wonder, what do they know that I don't know?

The National Archives,

they've been asked, can you find any, you know, any of the vice president's emails to his son or any time he was emailed with an alias?

And they just did a quick search and they found approximately 5,138 email messages, 25 electronic files, and 200 pages of potentially responsive records for a Freedom of Information Act.

And

what they were looking for is Robin Ware456 at Gmail, JRB Ware at Gmail, and Robert L.

Pete Peters at pci.gov.

And

we know he uses those because he was communicating to his son on those.

And so they're just getting them and go, oh, look,

we have the receipt for it over on Hunter's email.

And, oh, look, we have the send from your email.

proving again

proving again

i can't i just

i have a such a hard time with

with the american people honestly the american people i just don't i don't i really don't get it i don't get how they can see did you did you see shokin

come out and uh testify uh you know on video at least that, yeah, I mean, I don't have proof, but I do know this.

We were investigating Burisma.

Everything that everybody is saying about that is true.

We were investigating Burisma.

And we now know, because Hunter Biden said, that

he was told, Biden was told, about five days before he goes,

we also know the State Department.

was fine with me.

And then Biden comes, he holds back a billion

and says, I'm not going to give it to you unless you fire Shoken.

He's like, I don't know.

That sounds like corruption to me.

Shoken.

Ah, don't worry about it.

It's not like there were 6,000 emails with his

different names.

You know,

6,000 or 7,000 might be worrisome, but 5,000 on 138, I mean, who even cares?

I am so sick and tired of

them saying one thing about us and then doing

the exact same thing they're saying.

You know, do smoking guns not matter at all to anyone.

There's a smoking gun.

It's right there on the table in front of me.

The smoke is still coming out of the barrel and his hand is half an inch away.

You just heard the gun drop.

You look over and he's standing there with his hand over the gun, the smoking barrel.

And you're like, what happened?

I don't know what happened.

That couldn't have been him.

That wouldn't, I mean, please.

There's no evidence, Glenn.

There's no evidence tying Joe Biden to this at this time.

You know, sure, there was the

appearance of influence peddling, but there's nothing, no evidence, no direct payments.

No, no, there's not.

There's not not one picture of Joe Biden with a dump truck full of currency in his driveway.

And until you have that.

Well, no, yeah, yeah.

And if we do have that.

If we do that, there's a reason.

So then

there's no evidence of him spending that money.

Right.

And then if we do have that, then there's no evidence of him spending it on

prostitutes.

I lived through the Nixon years, so I remember the Nixon.

I was little, but I remember it.

And I remember what they had.

What they had on him was him on tape that nobody could ever prove.

You didn't hear it.

It was missing.

Okay.

But him

talking about, you know,

we should go in and look at the records of the Democratic Party, break into this local office and find out what their plan is to beat us in the next election.

That's the crime.

Okay, that's the crime.

That and the cover-up.

This is a president who is taking money from our enemies and he was money laundering it.

How many children?

Nine Bidens.

Nine Bidens received money in offshore accounts.

Nine.

What could possibly be the explanation?

No, there is no.

I mean, I'm so sick of hearing that.

Well, we got it.

No, no.

No.

Money laundering, we pretty much have down.

Okay, the banks, 70 notices from, I think, 12 or 19 different banks saying, This is money laundering.

You should just, you should just be warned, Treasury, this looks like money laundering.

70 notices.

Nine family members.

What were the, just tell me that.

What were the nine family members doing for companies like Burisma?

What were they doing?

Especially the children.

Yeah, what were they doing?

Okay.

They impeached Trump for questioning an election

and then arrested his attorneys.

They blamed him for January 6th, even though, as I said, and showed you the actual playbook for months,

months before the election.

Showed you their playbook saying that's exactly what they were going to do.

They were planning that.

Nobody cared about it then.

Nobody cared that they were actually wargaming it and had big names on the Democratic side wargaming it and funding it.

Nobody cared.

But then he questions this

and

he's not Stacey Abrams.

He's not a hero.

No, no, no.

He's a criminal.

When people go nuts and I think infiltrated by the FBI or the left,

he's responsible for it.

The head of the,

what is it, the Black Voters Council or Commission arrested for questioning the election.

All the while, Biden is climbing claiming racism.

Then, yesterday, they scheduled the January 6th trial the day before Super Tuesday, also

at the same time proceeding with the case that Trump tried to interfere with an election.

And

they won't nail anybody for interfering with the election by claiming in an orchestrated way with the Biden campaign to say that the laptop,

that's Russian disinformation.

That's not a crime.

The high crime and misdemeanors gun smoking there on the table seems invisible to the same people that tell us democracy dies in the darkness,

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This is a stain on our republic.

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The madness of the left, you know, it'd be one thing if they were, you know, going after somebody and they were like, hey, he's just really exceptionally bad.

He's just really exceptionally bad.

And Mitt Romney was a great guy.

You know, we could have had Mitt Romney.

We fought honestly on that one because, you know,

he's a moderate, a squishy.

I mean, he's in the middle.

And, you know, we even said that.

Why

go for him when you get the real thing with Barack Obama?

That's our argument.

No, that's not their argument.

Their argument was he's Hitler.

Yeah, he's Hitler and he puts his dog on his roof.

Right.

And he's forcing people into haircuts.

Right.

And they went after him with every single

thing.

And that's the thing.

Like, you could make the argument they're not covering the Biden thing because they see Trump as this uniquely Hitler character.

But in reality, if DeSantis wins this primary, they're going to say he's uniquely Hitler.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, he'll be worse than Hitler.

Worse than Hitler.

He'll be worse.

Than Donald Trump.

Worse than that.

Donald Swabby.

Like, you'd think, wait a minute, these people who are always talking about diversity, here's a possibility of a millennial

guy who

is skinny and has a different name.

Yeah.

They should love this guy, right?

They don't love him.

No.

They don't love him at all.

No, I saw a headline over the weekend.

He is more dangerous than Donald Trump.

So, I mean, it just continues to escalate.

It just, and then that's why it's just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, nonsense.

However, because the average liberal doesn't listen to anything, you know, we're kind of forced to listen to them.

They're everywhere.

But because

they don't listen to the other side, they only get it from the propaganda houses.

They don't know this stuff.

Do you worry about the average person right now who's not engaged in this?

Oh my gosh.

Because, you know, I talk to people all the time who are on the conservative side of things and people in the media, obviously, but also a lot of conservatives.

I live in Texas.

And they are all on board basically saying, look, Donald Trump is being persecuted by the government.

The DOJ has been weaponized.

Yep.

You look at these polls and it's consistent throughout a lot of them.

Independents do not see this this way.

In fact, they're not even separating out the differences between the cases.

They're not saying, like we would, like we look at the stuff every day.

We say, okay, the New York one is completely BS, right?

But you look at the document one and you might say, well, they got something there legally, even though I don't think it's a big deal, or whatever distinction you happen to make.

They pull those issues all separately.

They come out almost exactly the same.

They've made no distinction between these cases because they know none of the facts of these cases.

They don't know any of that.

All they're doing is looking at this and saying, wait a minute, this guy's been indicted four times.

Yeah.

And so it's like two to one, three to one that Trump is guilty of these things.

They know that.

The left knows this.

That's why they're charging him with anything.

Anything.

Yeah.

And you're not seeing any of these cases just shut down real quick.

Right.

Well, how do you deal with that?

I mean, and this is, you know, something, obviously, I'm sure former President Trump is talking about internally all the time.

But like, if you're going to win this election, those people need to be convinced that he was innocent on these things, right?

Like, that's how that's going to have have to end.

People are going to have to be convinced because right now they think he's guilty before they've seen any of the evidence.

This is the chaos that they love.

How do you spend time on convincing people that he's innocent when you're also at the same time trying to convince people that the other guy is legitimately dirty?

Right.

It just becomes noise.

Yep.

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Welcome to the program.

So

there's some new news here about Joe Biden and Shokin,

and

this doesn't look good for the president.

Yeah, listen, there are five or six narratives that Joe Biden told us in 2019 during impeachment trial of Donald Trump, and then in the election to get elected in his final job interviews at the debate.

Some of them them are blatantly false.

We've been able to prove that.

He said his family never got money from China.

Hunter Biden was going to admit the $6 million of Chinese money that

he welched taxes on just in 2017-18.

Didn't go back to even 2013 when there was more.

He said he had never met with his business partners, hadn't talked to business with his son, that the laptop was disinformation.

We know all of those are

now clearly false.

But one of the most important and enduring narratives he gave us, and it came during the Donald Trump impeachment trial, was that Joe Biden, yeah, he did force the firing of Victor Shokin, the Attorney General of Ukraine, by threatening to withhold a billion dollars in U.S.

aid.

But when he did that, it wasn't to help his son's company.

It was because he was carrying out U.S.

policy recommended by career officials.

Well, we went and sued, and we tried to go get the documents, and we finally got the documents from the State Department.

And lo and behold, we discovered that Joe Biden actually was told to do the opposite of what he did.

There was a task force of State, Treasury, and Justice Department officials, and they sent the recommendation to him and to the

Obama White House that they should give the billion dollars in loan guarantees to Ukraine because Viktor Shok and the prosecutor had made enough progress on the reform agenda, the anti-corruption agenda in Ukraine.

180 degrees opposite of what Joe Biden told us, 188 degrees opposite of what Joe Biden actually did.

And I think these documents, which are government documents from the State Department, from the Obama administration, completely undercut the story that Joe Biden told us going back to impeachment.

By the way, Adam Schiff,

all those guys, they also

misled the American public by making these claims.

And interestingly enough, President Trump's lawyers and President Trump's impeachment defenders, the Republicans who were in the well of the House defending him, they said they never got these documents.

These are exculpatory documents they say were kept from them.

John, I know I say this every time that you're on.

I've never seen anything like this.

I mean, this is, I think we have more than we had on Nixon.

And this is a bigger crime than Nixon.

I mean, Nixon was a low-level robbery.

It was his cover-up that was so bad.

But he was doing, you know, basically

what the Democrats did in 2016 using some operatives in the government to, you know, to influence the campaign.

He was just looking for influence.

They did influence the campaign.

Here, we have a guy whose family, I think it's nine of them, received money

through shell corporations.

We don't have any idea what any family member was doing for all of this money from China, from Ukraine.

We have the president now in every step of the way.

What he told us was the truth.

The exact opposite is what is reality.

We have really good sources.

We have government sources.

What is it going to take?

Yeah.

Well, listen, I've seen a market shift in the mainstream media, and I think that is an important element of this.

Can we take a mainstream media that has been in the protection racket of Joe Biden going back to 19, in the lie machine racket in trying to pursue Donald Trump with false allegations, which they did going back to Russia?

Are they coming around?

And I just want to point out a column that came out in the Washington Post in the last 24 hours by their liberal columnist, Philip Bump.

He's their national columnist.

He had this headline, Republicans have already achieved a desired impeachment outcome.

What does he mean by that?

The American public has flipped around from saying Joe Biden didn't do anything wrong and this was a made-up story of Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and John Solomon to, hey, there's really something here now.

And I think that that is an extraordinary shift.

CBS, when I broke the whistleblower story a few weeks ago, they came along for the ride.

They reported alongside of me and legitimately covered the IRS whistleblowers.

They clearly have been very impactful on the public.

And despite a pretty significant blockade in the legacy medium, a majority of Americans now believe that Hunter Biden and Joe Biden did something unethical.

That is a remarkable turnaround.

And it occurred in spite of the media, which has done everything from call the laptop Russian disinformation when it wasn't, to portray all of Joe Biden's statements as true when, in fact, the body of evidence shows they were false.

Something is happening at the ground level of American politics in the independent voters of America that is turning around this story right now.

So

the

persecution of Donald Trump is remarkable.

And

to me, the political interference

with his campaign by scheduling all of the trials right around important dates.

For instance, we found out yesterday, right the day before Super Tuesday, he goes to court.

He goes to another court in Atlanta a week

before Georgia goes to the polls.

I mean, this is extraordinary.

Tell me what would have happened in

a normal period of America.

Would these

charges been held back until after the election?

Not the charges, but the actual court cases?

You know, we still need to see how this history pays out.

The courts are just getting involved.

Just because a trial judge makes a decision doesn't mean that the appellate and Supreme Courts won't intervene in some way.

Mark Meadows has a request to move this to federal court.

That could have a profound effect on the definition of racketeering.

I think we're in a very early stage.

But I was on a plane coming back from Milwaukee last week after the debate, and I sat next to alongside a gentleman who had come from Georgia, not the state, but the Soviet Republic of Georgia.

And he said, I emigrated to the United United States under Ronald Reagan because I saw a banana republic in the Soviet Union.

I wanted to escape it.

And for the first time in my life, he said to me, I now fear America is becoming that banana republic I fled from.

If people who fled tyranny have that impression, they look at this and they can see it for what it is, I think you have to ask yourself, we are in uncharted waters.

Are the American people really going to accept this?

democratic-driven solution, which is we may not be able to beat Donald Trump with a poll, so we'll try to tie him up in the court.

Nine cases, nine civil and criminal cases against the president, all colliding in 2024.

This is not how earlier generations settled their disputes.

They settled them at the ballot box.

It also is disturbing because the damage is already done.

You know,

some of these charges are absolutely ridiculous, ridiculous.

You know,

Stacey Abrams, for the love of Pete, Hillary Clinton, same thing.

And to say that somebody didn't believe it because all the experts said, a guy who is surrounded by experts who have just knifed him in the back, you know, for four years and doesn't trust anybody, what?

You think he actually didn't believe this?

Of course he believed that.

And this is what we're going to court with.

I mean, I don't know if Stacey Abram believed that she actually won the election or not.

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter.

She can say it all she wants.

Protective political speech.

Exactly right.

But now the damage has been done because anybody who doesn't listen to me, read you, or anybody like us, they're voting for Biden.

They absolutely think Donald Trump is the most corrupt man alive.

And many independents feel the same way.

How are we going to show that, no, this one's corrupt.

This one doesn't look to be corrupt?

Well, there's some dynamic going on, Gunn, and I can't understand it yet.

I haven't been able to figure out what it is, but there's something at the ground level of the American political electorate that's changing right now.

They're either waking up, they see something they don't like, it's subliminal to them.

But there's one of the things that there's this awakening, and I think the awakening is almost everything that Donald Trump is being accused of, the Democrats already did.

Joe Biden kept classified documents, by the way, all the way back to when he was in the Senate, much longer time frame than when Donald Trump did it.

Joe Biden had a corrupt relationship with foreign oligarchs.

Oh, that's what the Trump family was accused of in 16 that we now know wasn't true.

Donald Trump was accused of lying.

It turns out that actually Joe Biden's been lying to us.

Almost everything that Donald Trump has been accused of, Americans are waking up and saying, what is it?

Joe Biden's done the same thing.

Why do you say, what is it that you are

Why are you sensing this?

What feedback are you hearing that you feel like something fundamental is changing?

Three things.

First up, we're seeing polling numbers that defy the expectations.

Because the mainstream media have covered up so much, I had assumed that most Americans didn't absorb this.

But a majority of Americans now believe Hunter and Joe Biden did something corrupt, untoward.

How did that happen?

A majority of Americans now say that these prosecutions with Trump, even if they think he did something wrong, are political in nature.

How did that happen?

Because the media hasn't allowed that to happen.

When I was in Milwaukee, I diverted from the downtown area where the debate was.

I went into the African-American community on the north side of Washington.

I went to a couple of restaurants and I just talked to people.

There is a groundswell of people just going to work, trying to make ends meet, that Joe Biden lied his way in.

He didn't do what he said.

He didn't tell us the truth.

And oh, by the way, his economy is a lot worse for us than the Donald Trump economy we had a couple of years ago.

Most of them don't like Donald Trump's personality, but they now realize Joe Biden lied to them and Donald Trump gave a better life to them.

That sense of just going out and reporting, seeing the political data, and that there's something going on in America that's not being measured yet by the mainstream media, though Philip Bumps column gives us all reason to wonder, why is the Washington Post suddenly seeing this?

I think there's something coming up in the polling data that hadn't been there before.

One last question.

The idea that Donald Trump actually goes to jail.

What is your thought on what do the American people do?

What happens to us if they throw him in jail?

Because they seem bound and determined to do it.

They clearly are.

They say so.

I mean, they make it very clear that's their goal.

I don't know we're in this uncharted territory in American history.

Not even in the worst days of the duels between Hamilton and Burr.

Would we ever imagine that we would just throw our opponent in jail?

I don't know how the country will react.

I do know one thing, the reaction of Donald Trump.

Trump going up in the polls every time he's charged with new charges or indicted again.

There is a statement that the American people are making, which is they don't like this.

They may not even like Donald Trump's personality, but they don't like what's being done to him.

I think that's the first sign of what may be a much larger movement in America.

But a lot of history has to play out.

The courts have to weigh in.

There's going to be appeals and there's going to be counter evidence

given in these cases that might be very different than the narrative.

Imagine how different Russia collusion is when you read the John Durham report versus Adam Ushiff's bogus allegations in 16 and 17.

I think a lot of faction play.

One thing I'm certain of, the Democrats are underestimating the wisdom of the American people.

They think Americans are stupid and can be fleeced.

Americans can't.

And they're waking up now and saying, hey, the reality we were sold in 2020 doesn't feel like it's true.

That's a very powerful moment in American politics.

And I don't know where it'll end.

John, thank you very much.

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What do you think about Mark Meadows testifying yesterday?

For five hours, it was a shock.

Nobody, because he opens himself up now to cross-examination.

He's like, that's fine.

This needs to be heard, and it needs to be heard in federal court.

Well, look, there are a lot of calculations you make in a situation like this, and lawyers give you all sorts of advice.

At the end of the day, I think it's a good thing for the country that he does stuff like this, right?

I do too.

It moves things along.

If there is something, maybe they'll find it.

But my guess is he's not testifying like this

if he believes that there's something real they can get to.

And then you just get to a point of whether they're going to try to manipulate the situation for their benefit, which of course they will, but the question is, will they be successful?

I just can't,

I can't believe more people are not outraged.

Here's a guy who just, his crime is getting someone on the phone.

The president asked him to get on the phone.

And they're saying that this was political and he shouldn't have gone on the phone because it was political.

In furtherance of, this is their big Rico.

Yeah, in furtherance of a conspiracy.

He just said, Can you get so-and-so on the phone for me?

Get his number.

So he called somebody, got the number, and gave it to the president.

It was because Donald Trump wanted to talk to that state official, I think it was in Pennsylvania, about the elections and say, Hey, where are we on the elections?

Where are we on the numbers?

Meadows, remember, is the chief of staff of the chief of staff, right?

If the president asks you to get somebody on the phone, you just get them on the phone, right?

And, you know, the cross was, is there ever, is there anything he could ask you to do that you just wouldn't do?

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah, there's lots.

Because this is one of the things that sort of was

talked about at the time when these case, these charges came out.

There's a lot of stuff in there, in the charges that are definitely not crimes, right?

Like tweets, right?

Like there's not a crime.

But the way the Rico stuff works is they have to show each individual step.

in the crime.

So like, for example, if you're a mob boss and you say, ah, just get Bill on the phone.

Oh, And if someone, if you go and get Bill on the phone, that's not a crime.

But if the preceding conversation leading up to that was, I need to make sure we kill Polly Walnuts, so get Bill on the phone.

And you go and get Bill on the phone.

Well, then that phone call can be part of a crime.

Right.

But like, I don't think that there's much evidence that that is happening with Meadows.

Yeah, they didn't think it was a crime.

Right.

They didn't think it was a crime.

Yeah.

And look, it's in the memo.

It's not a crime.

I read to you the memo the other day about their the fake elector scam, as the media is calling it.

And you read it and you're like, well, look, I think their legal reasoning in this circumstance is not particularly strong.

However, that's not a crime.

Like they are talking about we need to do this in a constitutionally protected manner.

They're discussing this in the memos.

I mean, they were, and again, you don't put something like this in a memo if you're convinced it's a crime.

What we're going to do is we're going to break into the safe tonight at eight o'clock.

Put this in a memo, send it out, right?

That doesn't happen.

No, you don't do that very often.

So I don't know.

They are going to come after him, and they are coming after him with everything that they have.

I'll be interested to hear what he's thinking, what he thinks the next steps are.

We're going to be talking to President Trump here in just a couple of minutes.

But I just don't, you know, when you look at the entire landscape of all of this, they seem determined to destroy him no matter what he did.

And, you know, I don't know.

I hope we're not in the situation.

I hope we're still living in a country where

they can't actually succeed.

But, you know, the questions are certainly there.

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The by far frontrunner for the Republican nomination and the most persecuted man in, I believe, American history, the former President of the United States, President Donald Trump.

Welcome to the program, sir.

How are you?

Well, thank you, Delane.

I'm fine.

I'm fine.

You're probably right about that.

I got

the most persecuted man.

Yeah, you are.

I never heard it put quite as succinctly, but it's probably true.

So So let me ask you, you know, you've seen the deep state.

We now all know what you saw was true and deeper than I think any of us knew.

They've weaponized everything.

They are serious about trying to put you in prison.

Can I ask, will you and can you run a campaign from a jail cell?

Well, I don't think that's ever happening.

We have a great case.

Every case is a scam.

This is just like Russia, Russia, Russia.

Remember, I was going to be guilty with Russia, Russia, Russia.

Then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, with 18 radical Democrats and Bob Mueller, the Mueller report said there was no collusion.

Everyone had a heart attack.

And then they started Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.

Then they started lying on Pfizer reports.

These are bad people.

These are sick people.

And now

we have the biggest lead I've ever had.

The debate, I actually went up after the debate, as you know.

We did your friend Tucker's

interview, and he had 261 million people, which is an all-time record.

So when you say, like, I didn't do a debate, I actually didn't do a debate, but I had 261 million people listening versus 11 million, which they had, which was one of the lowest-rated debates.

So I went up fairly substantially after that.

And I think the fake indictment that they did in Georgia was very helpful.

And then they insisted on a mug shot, and somehow it turned out to be very iconic.

I have to tell you, I don't know

how you do it every day.

I really don't.

I would have lost my mind a long time ago.

You said in 2016, you know, lock her up.

And then when you became president, you said, we don't do that in America.

That's just not the right thing to do.

That's what they're doing.

Do you regret not locking her up?

And if you're president again, will you lock people up?

Well, I'll give you an example.

The answer is you have no choice because they're doing it to us.

I always had such great respect for the office of the president, the presidency,

but the office of the president, and I never hit Biden as hard as I could have.

And then I heard he was trying to indict me, and it was him that was doing it.

You know, I don't think he's sharp enough to think about much, but he was there, and he was probably the one giving the order, but he would, you know, hard to believe that he even thinks about that because he's gone.

But then I said, well, they're actually trying to indict me because every one of these indictments is him, including Bragg.

You know, Bragg put his, he put his top people, I don't know if you know this, he put his top person into the office of the Manhattan District Attorney.

They've been in total coordination with Fannie Willis.

The woman that I never met that they accused me of rape, that's being run by a Democrat,

a Democrat operative and paid for by the Democrat Party.

You know, so many of these things, I have a couple of other lawsuits all funded against me by the Democrats.

These are sick people.

These are evil people.

And it actually, it's an amazing thing.

We talk about the public.

The public is smarter than anyone can imagine because they understand what's happening.

It's really actually driven.

I was doing very well before this stuff, but it's really driven my poll numbers up.

And you look at these, you know, that basically they're saying I don't have a right to challenge an election.

And I did something, and I have to get it to you like immediately yesterday, where we put in all of the Democrats over the last 15, 20 years actually challenging elections.

And this tape, the problem is it would go on for two hours.

Yeah.

We have 25 minutes of it.

I mean, it's crazy.

You got it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay, good.

Did you get that from me?

Did my office send that in?

I don't know.

I don't remember where we.

Do you remember, Stu?

But we have it, and we've played it.

Yeah, oh, yeah.

Yeah, it's

incredible.

It doesn't stop.

No.

I mean, it doesn't stop.

It just keeps going and going.

And much nastier.

I mean,

I'm like a kind person by comparison.

They're calling for death.

Oh, I know.

Maxine Waters is crazy.

She's like a crazy lunatic.

The way she talks about people, go into restaurants and beat them up.

And things are, you know, her statements are just unbelievable, but a lot of them are unbelievable.

And

nobody talks about them.

Hillary Clinton, who called up and conceded the night of the election, And a week later, she started saying that she won the election.

Not that she was.

She said, I didn't win.

I didn't win.

You know, it's all not.

And then she made up the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.

And then after two years, I won that.

And then they go into Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.

No, these are sick people.

But the public gets it.

They get it almost as well as you do.

I don't know.

So anybody gets it.

So, Mr.

President,

we have so many problems.

I got a call from a Democrat just

last week, and she said,

Glenn, I'm thinking about voting for a Republican, and I'm still a Democrat.

She said, But I'm on a fixed income.

I know for a fact what I used to have in my pocket at the end of every month is now not even there at the end of every week.

They are hurting.

People feel like the Republic is over.

A lot of people look at what's going on and say, This can't last.

Can you give people hope that

change can happen and you can bring things back,

a republic and an economy?

Sir, Glynn, I can.

Look, we had this running until COVID.

Two and a half years, it was the greatest economy in the history of the world.

Everybody was happy.

African Americans, Asian Americans, Hispanic Americans, women, men, people with diplomas from MIT and people with no diplomas from high school.

Everybody was happy.

And frankly, I was getting calls from people on the left and even the radical left, get together, get together.

This country was coming together.

Then we got hit with COVID.

We did a great job with COVID.

It has never been acknowledged, but it will be in history.

We did a great job with the ventilators and all the things we did because nobody knew what it was.

Nobody had any clue as to what it was.

And we did a great job.

And when we handed it back over after a terrible, terrible election, I mean, they used COVID, they cheated.

Even if you just go by what they did with legislators and legislatures,

what they did with the consent decree in Georgia, the signing of that consent decree was by

Ratensberger and the governor.

The signing of that consent decree was the end of Georgia.

That was the beginning of the end.

And then when Doug Collins didn't get in, instead of freaking, you know, you would have had Purdue, you would have had Collins.

It would have been like a loose thing.

But if you look at those things.

He was so badly hurt.

But the signing of that consent decree, and frankly, going around legislatures and not getting approvals and running these elections the way they ran them was a disgrace.

I got more votes than any sitting president in history by far, by millions.

I know.

And it's a very, very sad thing that happened to us.

So let me ask you, because

you talk about what has happened in the past.

I look at the GOP.

You know, the head of the chair of the RNC

tweeted on the day that you had the mugshot her excitement for the convention to come to Houston in 2028.

They're not, I mean, the GOP is not at their post.

And Wisconsin, Georgia, Pennsylvania,

the GOP has not been changing the things that happened last time in the election.

They haven't shored those up.

How do we ensure that we have a real election if the GOP won't do anything?

Yeah,

you're not wrong.

Look, I've been complaining they're not tough enough.

The Democrats are dirty players.

They lie.

They cheat.

What they did was unbelievable with ballots, with every conceivable form of cheating.

And that includes, if you think, even the FBI.

How about the FBI Twitter?

Then you have the DOJ and Facebook and you have all of these things that happen.

And it was incredible what they did.

And they used COVID to do it.

But, you know,

I'll tell you, my most, two questions that I'm asked most often is the first is, how do you take it?

How do you live?

How do you take it?

And I get that asked from very successful people like you.

But I get that asked by the most successful people, people that have been tough and smart.

They say, could I ask you something, President?

How do you take it?

And I take it because I take it.

You know, I mean,

I sometimes say, do I have a choice?

These people are crazy.

But, you know, I've been taking it from the day I came down the escalator.

You know, they made up that Russia hoax when I went up to number one in the polls.

You know, if I wasn't polling, if I were doing in fourth place like almost everybody, you know, they're all gone.

The Republicans are all gone.

They're way down.

DeSanctimoni is a very disloyal guy.

He's so far down.

I think he's probably not even going to be in second place much longer.

But I'm 40, 50 points ahead of all the Republicans.

But they say, how do you take it?

The fact that there's such love of what we stand for, and what we stand for is a great economy, strong borders, all of it's going to come back.

The hardest thing to cure is going to be the millions and millions of people that they allowed into our country.

They allow millions of people.

And Glenn, these are people from prisons, from jails.

These are people from mental institutions.

You can call them insane asylums, which is a step above.

These are the people that they're allowing into our country, and there are terrorists.

There are terrorists coming into our country, and they're just walking in, and they're totally, nobody knows who they are, what they are, where they are.

What they're doing to our country is either a death wish, they're not stupid, because anybody that could cheat that way in elections is not stupid.

But what they are is, I believe they might hate our country.

They have to.

I think they might.

They might hate our country.

And who can want open voting?

Who can want no voter ID?

You know, they have a thing for voter ID.

let's they fight voter id viciously why don't you want voter id because you want to cheat and if you think about it they have to cheat because who wants open who's going to vote for open borders high taxes high interest rates bad economy weak military woke and awoke military believe it or not you know i defeated isis with our military i did it in four weeks i took out isis i was told by

certain generals that are television generals it would take years.

And I flew to Iraq and I came back with some incredible information and I knocked out ISIS in four weeks.

You know, our military is incredible.

They don't get the credit.

But then you see in Afghanistan, I was all forgetting that.

I'm the one that got the troops down.

But you have to keep Bagram and you have to take our soldiers out last, not first.

What they did is so horrible.

And I believe it was the lowest point in the history of our country what happened that day.

Oh,

the way they withdrew from Afghanistan was the lowest in the history of our country.

But we'll bring it back.

We're going to bring back the economy, and we're going to bring back those strong borders.

Last question.

You said that

you weren't going, but you would be watching the debate for a vice president.

Have you thought of vice president Ramaswamy?

Well, I think he's great.

Look, anybody that said I'm the best president in a generation, I don't know, you'll have to define generation, but it's a long time.

And he said it a couple of times, and he said it in 100 years.

So I have to like a guy like that.

You know, I can't get upset with him.

But he's a smart guy.

He's a young guy.

He's got a lot of talent.

He's

a very intelligent person.

He's got good energy, and he could be in some form of something.

I tell you, I think he'd be very good.

I think he's very good.

I think he's really distinguished himself.

He's starting to get out there a little bit.

He's getting a little bit controversial.

I've got to tell him, be a little bit careful because

somebody has to hold in just a little bit, right?

But

he's got a lot of good energy, I will tell you.

And

he's been very nice to me.

And, you know, most of them have, other than Christie.

I don't think Christie left with an 8% approval rating.

Oh, yeah, it was horrible.

And he was tied up in Bridgegate the whole thing.

He was a mess.

He was a disaster.

It was amazing how there is the new generation and the old generation of Republicans that just seem to be completely out of touch with what time it is.

They don't get it.

They don't.

And Mitch McConnell, I mean, Mitch has to go, has to go.

He's given them trillions of dollars that he could have stopped.

You know, and now they're campaigning on the fact that they have trillions of dollars.

That was given by Mitch and 10 of his people that voted as he demanded that they vote.

And, you know, it's not that he's a leader.

He raises a lot of money and he gives it to senators.

Yeah, no, he is.

And it's sort of like he buys his leadership.

Exactly right.

But he gave them all of this Green New Deal money, and it's probably $9 trillion if you add it up.

And it's like throwing it out the window.

It's a horrible thing.

And it does cause inflation, but it's like throwing it out the window.

It's a horrible thing.

President Donald Trump, thank you very much, sir.

We pray for you.

Millions of Americans stand behind you, and I hope more and more Americans wake up to

the circus that we've turned our country into with this persecution of you.

But thank you, sir.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

And we're going to make America great again.

You watch.

It's going to happen fast.

It's going to happen fast.

And I appreciate it very much.

And you're a brave voice.

You are a very brave voice and have been for a long time.

Thank you.

Thank you, Glenn.

You bet.

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Now, let's talk about,

let's talk about that interview.

What did you think about?

I mean, you know, it's Donald Trump, so he kind of, you know, says whatever he wants to say, but there's a few things that came out of it.

A, I'm not going to jail.

That's not going to happen.

Yep.

He's very convinced of that.

Correct.

Two.

And no,

I don't regret not locking her up, but now they're doing it to us.

And so, yes, we now have to do it.

Yeah.

That was interesting.

Yeah, it's interesting.

I don't, I, I, I, I, if, if they're guilty of crimes and there's lots of them, then yes, they should be locked up.

Um,

what was uh the Vivek Ramaswamy answer, which I thought was pretty interesting.

I, I kind of took it as he likes him.

He likes him because he likes him because he, you know, he likes Donald Trump, uh, you know, but he's a smart.

He mentioned young guy.

It made me think, does he think he's too young for that particular job?

It seemed like he was interested in him for something, but not necessarily the VP, is the vibe I took from that.

Also, it was funny when he was a little concerned that Vivek was a little too controversial.

I thought that was hysterical.

I had to call him, tell him, you know, you're getting a little out there.

Anyway, thanks for listening.

We'll be back tomorrow.

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