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Okay, so you remember Star Trek, the original series.

There's a couple of people that I, if you look at,

and I know it was just me, but if you look at

the panel last night on the stage, all of those podiums, and think of them more like a landing party, okay?

And they're all beamed down to the surface.

And I would believe that a few of them have come from outer space directly to the stage.

So they're all beamed down.

Whenever they were going to be beamed down to the surface, there were always these guys that let me show you.

These guys from the landing party, and you'd never seen them before.

And as soon as they got into the transporter, you're like, oh, they're going to die by the end of the episode.

This will be the last episode they're ever on.

Okay.

You knew that.

But at the center of the transporter, always was Kirk and Spock.

And I think we had Kirk and Spock there in the center of the stage.

Playing the role of Captain Kirk was DeSantis.

The tough guy was going to get it done.

Damn it.

Damn it.

Gonna get it done.

And then you had Spock.

Chris Christie called him Chad GPT.

Okay.

Chris Christie, by the way, in this particular scenario, is represented by the lava rock guy in the.

he was in the episode and he was he was always

he always he always kind of sounded like uh he was in a cardboard tube uh

kirk does my body heat disturb you

and yes the answer to that is yes so he was kind of the villain the lava rock

does anyone know this reference other than you and pat i i'm convinced i've never learned it from anyone else but i i love the episode too now that you showed it to me but it's we it's incredible.

It's a great, I mean, and it's true.

He is.

That's Chris Christie.

Look at him.

If you're watching on the Blaze TV or just Google him, just do Lava Rock Guy original Star Trek series.

And it's Chris Christie.

Okay, so

then you had Mike Pence,

who I don't know.

Mike Pence might be

who was it?

Was it Christopher Pike, the guy who was only on one episode, and they were like, he's going to be, he's Captain Kirk.

And it was the pilot episode.

And they're like, not him.

Okay.

I think that's Mike Pence.

He was the guy who was like, he got up there and he was like, no,

I'm Captain Kirk.

I'm going to, you know, look at me.

Look at me.

He's actually,

I have to go to another TV show to describe him.

I think he was.

I think he was a little MacGyver-ish last night because he's the only guy I've ever seen that could take a Bible and the Constitution and fashion those into a noose to hang himself.

Just

wow.

Now, I've been reading some of the mainstream media reports.

I'm told he's one of the big winners from the debate last night.

Yeah.

That's what they keep saying.

And I honestly, I will say this as someone who watched the Iowa situation that we did, the first candidate forum of the season,

it was a better performance than that.

He couldn't get what.

Yes,

Asa Hutchinson.

Yeah, he did.

He was a giant zilch in both of them.

But I mean, Pence was at least aggressive.

He was in the middle of the fights.

Oh, he was.

But he's so rough.

There's something about his style.

And, you know, he's the only, I agree with the things he said.

You know, we've got to turn back to Christ.

We've got to be, you know, a good people.

We've got to follow the Constitution.

But him saying it, I found myself like, ooh, I'm not for that.

I mean, it was just him saying it.

It's well, it's just a, yeah, he he has a weird style.

Like, he had, he's the only one on stage that does the pause.

Oh, I hate that.

And it's like a, it's like he starts one word and then he pauses for six seconds.

Now, of course, it's something that you're sort of famous for broadcasting-wise.

Yes.

But in a debate, like, well, he was, he would say one word, he would pause, and then Vivek Ramaswamy would slip in like three paragraphs.

And you're like, all right, is he still in that first sentence?

And when he would pause, see, you can't have white hair.

This is why it's no longer working for me.

You can't have white hair after Joe Biden and pause.

Say, you know,

because everybody's thinking, is he there?

I don't know.

What's happening?

Is that Mitch McConnell?

Is he having another Mitch McConnell?

Every time he paused, I was like, is he going to continue?

What happened?

It was not good.

It was strange.

It was not good.

Nikki Haley,

she's like the nurse on Star Trek, but not.

You know, bones always returned.

Nikki Haley is the original blonde nurse who I don't even know her name.

She was in many episodes.

She was actually, I think, Gene Roddenberry's daughter.

And they thought she was going to be the big star

and she wasn't.

And so she just kind of drifted off into the sunset.

I am told by many of the same publications I just mentioned that she was one of the big winners of the night.

Yeah, I don't think so.

I don't think she did herself any harm, but I don't think she did

any good.

I mean, I legitimately thought her abortion answer was terrible.

Terrible.

I like Nikki Haley.

I have nothing against her.

You guys figure out who you're going to vote for.

I'm not your dad.

But like watching, I thought that was really weird.

The problem with that was she was interrupted by Mike Pence.

I'm going to stab you with a crucifix right now.

And you were like, what?

I suddenly, I'm for, I don't even know what Nikki is saying, but I'm for her now.

I mean, it was.

That's interesting.

You are Mr.

I talk about God in uncomfortable places.

No, I know.

Even you, and I

didn't feel real.

I talked to a friend of mine, Dan Andrews from Faithwire.com and CBN.

And a guy, he works for CBN.

B is Bible.

Right.

I know it's actually broadcasting, but C is Christian.

So this is a person who's very comfortable talking about faith.

And he had said the same thing.

He's like, you know,

Steve Dace last night said it too.

He's like, I'm like the most Christian guy I know.

And it's still, there's something about the way he talks about it that makes you feel uncomfortable.

It makes you feel like he's trying to send you a Vulcan mind bell.

He's sending you a message.

I want you to know

Jesus loves me and I love him.

Do you

totally agree with that?

Why does this make me feel so strange?

I know.

I know.

Because it feels like what he's saying is,

I love Jesus and I have a direct hotline to him and you don't.

You You know,

I'm judging you right now.

To be a little fair to the mainstream media's take, and this was

in some ways my take with Pence.

Both Pence and Haley are such non-factors in this race that just getting in the middle of it and mixing it up is probably a positive for them.

At least I thought Pence at least had some decent moments.

Haley, I don't know, she had a decent moment against Vivek at one point that people were talking about.

But

I think like when you are zero, you're kind of a zilch on stage and you can make yourself at least being talked about.

I think there's an argument there to make, to say that you had a positive day.

Maybe you helped yourself a little bit.

With pence?

Yeah, with pets.

I do think that like

because I felt he

immediately going.

Yeah, immediately he felt invisible, I think.

He wanted to make sure that he was seen and heard.

And so he was good at that.

Yeah.

But what he said and how it came across was not good.

Do you remember?

I don't remember the name of the show.

It was the cartoon in the 60s with Bandit, the little dog Bandit, Johnny Quest.

You remember Johnny Quest's dad?

He had a series of references on this first show.

I know.

Okay, so if you look at Johnny Quest's dad.

Johnny Quest's dad.

He looked like Mike Pence probably looked in 1960.

Yeah, okay, yeah.

Okay.

I'm looking at a picture right now.

Yeah, right.

Benton C.

Quest.

Yeah.

So if you you look at him, that's what Mike Pence looked like in the 1960s, maybe, but he feels like he came right out of the 1960s and then just aged.

You know, his hair color changed, and he's still that strangely like, I'm a tough guy.

You understand?

I'm a tough guy, but I love Jesus.

And it was just, it was weird.

Yeah, it was just weird.

Most of that is stylistic,

but it is part of it, and it was strange.

I'm with you on that.

Tim Scott was the guy who,

you know, is in the landing party, and he's maybe got a line or two.

And the first line he speaks, you're like, okay,

this is a trick.

He's going to die.

The second line, you're like,

maybe not.

No.

No, he doesn't come from the surface.

He never returns to the ship.

You know, and again, we've had Tim Scott on the show.

I like Tim Scott.

I love him.

But

there's an on-paper argument here for him, and I just don't think he's the candidate that can pull this

off.

He's not the guy

that has the,

I don't know, gravitas or the

connection,

I think.

He also felt swallowed by the evening.

Like, you know, all the other fireworks that were going on, the back and forth.

And then they go to Tim Scott.

I'm like, oh, my gosh, like, I forgot about Tim.

Was he on?

Like, he just didn't.

There's something about his delivery.

There's a package there that Tim Scott is trying to represent that could have an impact in this race.

His polling isn't terrible.

I think people want Tim Scott to be a thing.

And it's just, I just don't think he's going to be able to pull that off.

Yeah, I want him to be a thing.

I like him.

I like him, too.

And he's a good senator and certainly the best senator of South Carolina.

It's not even remotely close.

Why?

Is there some other senator that you might be referring to?

There's a good 80-senator gap on the top 100 list between him and the other one.

So, you know, I think that there is an argument to be made that he could be dynamic in this race.

But

I feel like when I'm watching it, I'm convincing myself.

It's like I had a high draft pick, and I'm convincing myself, no, in year three,

he's going to develop and he's going to be an MVP caliber player.

And I just.

He just, I don't think he's going to get there.

I think watching Asa Hutchinson age last night was weird.

He was almost like Dorian Gray.

His skin got a little dark around his nose and blue.

It was like blood was just, I don't know, rushing to his lips and his, or his upper lip, not his actual lips, but, you know, this thing that's connected to your nose, that part of your lip, and the end of his nose, it got very, very dark and gray.

And then he started to get a little transparent.

And I'm like,

I think he's dying.

That was weird.

It was weird.

It's like as if he came from his other job working at a haunted house.

Yes.

You know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was weird.

I felt like he was going to start narrating in the middle of a Michael Jackson song at one point.

And I couldn't get past on Bermentum.

What's his name, Berg Berg?

Bergmentum?

Yeah.

I couldn't get past.

Every time he came on the screen, I was like, oh, my gosh, the eyebrows.

Who is that guy?

Even though I had seen him three times every time he came on the screen, I was like, oh, my gosh, the eyebrows.

Who is that again?

That was fascinating.

Yeah, he was, wow.

Someone said, you know, he picked him Martin Scorsese eyebrows, which I think kind of works.

He does.

And it's, you know, the real problem is he's not Martin Scorsese.

And

I don't know what, I mean, you know, I came from a small town.

Okay.

And what does that mean?

Well, I came from a small town and I still have small town values.

But, you know, I keep them with me.

Of course you do.

You are the governor of the state who has more sheep than people.

You haven't, you're still there.

I don't know if you know that.

There's no town in North Dakota that's big.

It's not like, oh, but then he moved to the big city.

I don't know what that is supposed to mean.

It's the city of Fargo right now.

It's kind of, yeah.

I don't know what that's supposed to mean.

That I'm, you know, I'm from a small town and I'm really getting sick of, I'm from a working class family.

So was I.

But what is, what does that mean?

Yeah, that doesn't define you.

I mean, I thought one, the vaccine, I thought, to me, and we'll get to him, I'm sure,

a little up and down, but one line I did like about from him last night was when he said he had the ultimate privilege, which was having two parents that loved him.

It was really good.

And like that is, that is the defining.

You want to talk about class

inequality.

Yeah.

We so we talk so much about how much money people have.

That's the, that is the inequality that we should talk about a lot more.

A lot of people who don't have that do start with a disadvantage and live life with a disadvantage.

So let me uh let me just um let me just take a quick break and then we're going to come back and we're going to talk about

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All right.

So let's start with Vivek.

I think Vivek is the model for the Republicans of the future.

Republicans of the future.

Kind of doesn't compute, really.

But

he is a lot like Donald Trump in he just says what he means and means what he says.

He just says it.

And you could tell there was no hesitation on several things.

Like, raise your hand if you will pardon Trump.

He put his hand up immediately.

And he was the only one for a while.

And then a few others started to raise their hand.

And then DeSantis, whether he was going to raise his hand or not, he, because Vivek was so fast with that, DeSantis kind of looked to the side to see it looked like he was looking at, and I don't think it was.

I don't think it was either.

But it looked like he was gauging uh and then he slowly raised his hand like i don't want to be the only one putting my hand up here yeah now he's publicly said he was going to do this basically before an interview so you know he was just rehashing a previous position he wouldn't need to look around per se but uh so that's what makes me think it wasn't like he was checking the room but it did look like i mean it looked like he was like oh my gosh am i supposed to put my oh here they're all up okay i'll put mine up that is what it looked like it did look like that and then chris christie and everybody else it just got ugly um however I don't think that was the question, though.

It was another question.

Okay.

Okay.

Because

he was the only one that raised his hand on who would pardon Trump.

Everybody else was like, the law's the law.

You know, the law is the law.

That's right.

I remember Pence pushing it.

There was that.

There was one question where they all raised their hand except for the two sort of moderate slash liberals on there, Christie and

ASA.

So that's the question I'm thinking of.

That was a rough moment.

Yeah, rough moment.

And I thought he had another bad moment where he said, I'm the only one up here.

I'm the only one up here that's not bought and paid for.

I thought that was a good one.

Oh, the Ramaswamy one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I thought that was a bad moment for him.

Yeah, you know, and it's also, let's, can we be honest about it?

A total slogan.

He was criticizing others for having slogans.

Ramaswamy had slogans all night long.

I mean, anyhow, I look at them all memorized.

And like, it's a dumb slogan.

What are you talking about?

You're telling me if you win this nomination, you're not going to take donations from people?

I mean, obviously he is.

He is taking donations now.

He is largely self-funded.

It's great.

Does that really mean anything, though?

What are you talking about?

You're talking about people that take political donations are all bought and paid for.

I mean, that's just silly.

Yeah.

I just, that's a point I just hate.

I think it's a good point to the audience sometimes.

Sometimes

it was pulled off horribly at the time.

And I think he may have been too brisk for some.

I thought he did exactly what he should have done last night.

And make sure you're in there.

He became the focus of it.

DeSantis,

I just thought was just solid.

Yeah.

You know, he wasn't.

He wasn't the focus of it.

He was not the focus of it.

He wasn't fireworks, but he was solid.

And I don't think made really any errors.

Yeah, no, I don't think he made errors with the exception of the one hand-raising thing, which was weird.

But other than that, you're right.

Like, a lot of the reaction from the media is he was terrible.

He was invisible.

I did think that he didn't mix it up as much as maybe they'd want him to, but they were, the campaign was happy that he wasn't the one getting all the attacks.

They were sort of surprised by that going in.

Yeah, they went after Ramaswamy, and those attacks are going to get bigger now.

Remind me to talk about the attacks on Ramaswamy that are coming.

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Welcome to the Glen Beck program.

Pat Gray joins us, and I'm also surrounded by puppets because this is an amazing, amazing audience.

I just want to, if you happen to be

watching us on Blaze TV,

let me just share some of these

puppets that are behind me, and I feel awkward because they're staring at me.

This comes from

Andrew Olson, and he said, Glenn, I dropped all other

work projects.

I took two days off from my job, and for the past 48 hours, I've worked building these four puppets.

Trump,

Chris Christie, Mike Pence, and DeSantis.

I wish I had time to build all eight, but I'm going on vacation, so I could only spend two days.

And they are amazing puppets.

Yeah, like those are like professional puppeteer type puppets.

And then I got this one in from Valerie.

Valerie Perkins, she said,

I'm one of the grandmas you mentioned that can make anything out of anything.

She said, I made only, I only had time to make one puppet.

Now, remember, we asked, I think, on Tuesday for puppets.

This woman

knitted Donald Trump.

That's really good.

That is amazing.

Incredible.

I got these in,

which are amazing.

This is from a woman named

Sally Sawyer, I think.

Yeah, Sally.

She's an amazing artist, but look at these.

These are bagged puppets.

Oh, wow.

That's Chris Christie.

I'm not sure who that one is.

Barack Obama.

It might be.

Here's Nikki Haley.

All right.

Vivek.

I don't know.

Maybe.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Tim Scott, maybe.

Mike Pence, clearly.

Look at Vivek.

Oh, there you go.

That's a nice suit.

This is Tim Scott.

This one's good.

Yeah, and then this one is good.

This is Mike Pence.

Dear Glenbeck, my mom listens to you every morning.

I heard about your presidential puppet need.

I wanted to send mine.

Here's Mike Pence from Barrett in Big Timber,

Montana.

That's awesome.

Yeah.

Jesus loves me.

That's great.

And there's so many more, but we can get into it later.

What was the big thing that stood out to you last night, Pat?

A couple of things stood out.

Nikki Haley sucks.

And so does Mike Pence.

Not a fan of either one of them.

They're still enmeshed in warmongering.

I don't understand it.

Have you guys not progressed at all to say, okay, we've been at war long enough and we've been in enough places around the world and we've policed the planet long enough?

Let's

work.

No, it doesn't work.

We've tried it that way for about 150 years and it's not working.

Well, we can do it all.

We can have the border and fight Canada and Mexico if we want to.

Start something in the Congo, and we can definitely fight for Ukraine.

Let them fight their own battles, let them fight.

Well, I mean, we can do, we could do a lot and still fight Canada.

That one I still agree with you.

That's when we support that.

That's a good point.

Because it's not a terrible line that Pence brings up from a lying perspective.

He's like, you know, we're the greatest country in the world.

We should be able to do more than one thing.

You have a bad view of our country.

First of all, he said it at the Iowa thing.

We'd already heard it,

but it's the exact same line.

But secondly, like, actually, our country can't do either of the things one at a time.

No, we can't do any of these things.

We can't do the most basic thing in the world that a government sends them.

We're sending them money we don't have.

Yeah.

And I thought he also sounded really out of touch when he was going up against Ramaswamy, who was like, Look, we are having bad times in America, and we've got to recognize that we're not the America we once were.

And

we have to soul search and rediscover who we are.

He said it's not morning in America.

Yeah.

While I get what he's going for there,

it felt a little shocking to hear that, but it's true.

It's true.

Everybody knows it.

Mike Pence was just like, oh, you're saying the American people are bad.

No, that's not what he said.

No.

It's not what he said.

I will say, though, and this is the thing I did appreciate about the debate last night.

Yeah.

That what you're talking about, Pat, is a serious policy difference in the party.

And it's good that they talk those things out.

There was actually some substance,

some sort of depth.

One person who really thinks this is good, one person who's really thinks this is bad, let them argue it out.

That's how this is supposed to be.

Okay, so let's reenact because Fox will not, this first time in my career, I've done this 45 years, I think, something like that.

It's a lot.

And every four years,

this broadcast is usually as somebody that has been up all night pulling all the clips.

We're not pulling any clips because we can't.

We can't.

And you'll see it on TV.

Fox has hidden this debate.

CNN is not really playing any clips.

CNBC, MSNBC, no one is playing clips because Fox is, they're saying, we'll sue you.

Three minutes.

Why would you do that?

And it can't be in your archives.

Right.

So after a week, you can't play it ever again.

Right.

So any show that played a single clip.

You have to delete that part of the show.

Yeah.

It's impossible.

And, you know, most executives and media are just saying, okay, they're crazy.

Zero minutes.

Don't do any of it.

Right.

And

quickly, as you're putting your puppets on, I would just point out, too, can we spread the blame a little bit for this?

Yes, Fox deserves the blame for not spreading these around.

I'm not taking any blame away from them per se, but I want to add additional blame here to the RNC for allowing this.

You're right.

Next time you go to Fox, you say, you don't get this debate unless people get to see our damn candidates.

What was the whole point of this?

To introduce these people to America.

And I understand why Fox wants to steal it all for themselves so they can have this, oh, we're just going to be an exclusive and no one else gets to see it.

I get that from a self-interest point at some level.

But like, that's not the self-interest of the RNC.

No, you know, here's what you do.

What we did when we did the summit.

We had the summit.

It went all day.

It was behind the paywall all day, but you could take it.

We paid for the broadcast.

We paid for the broadcast and everything else could be taken.

So you saw that, even if if you didn't see our broadcast you saw those clips everywhere everywhere everywhere and why not it's only good for you i know it's good for fox for us to play the clips hey here's what happened in the debate on fox last night i mean

it is hard to take you seriously with a pink puppet on your hand oh you like my nikki haley puppet

yeah uh

Lord, if you love Vladimir Putin so much, why don't you marry him?

You can tell it's Nikki Haley because it's the only feminine pink puppet, which she, by the way, made sure she pointed out to us over and over and over.

We got that you're a woman.

We can see it.

I know the half of the country can't notice the differences.

Excuse me.

How contrived was that life?

I hate that.

How contrived was the life?

You know, should they be preparing that for a month and sneak this in when you can.

Yeah.

That if you want to talk about something, you ask a man.

If you want something done, you ask a man.

Ask a woman.

Like me.

all right.

Even though I'm a rhino and a war monger.

What is the audience you're playing to with that line?

I don't know.

Maybe if you're in the general election, but you think it's going to win people over.

But like what?

This is a party that's completely aligned against identity politics.

And you come out and your big point is,

I've got a girly part.

Like what is that?

I don't understand that at all.

Again,

I don't have anything against Nikki Haley.

I just don't understand.

I I didn't need her to last a second.

Now I do.

She is out of line.

I need to add something to the Constitution of our program, Sarah.

If you'd write this down in the rule book, I don't want anyone to ever refer to Nikki Haley's girly parts.

That made the Constitution?

Is there a method process on this?

Wow.

No, it's yeah.

That was an egregious advice.

I had several other words I was going to use.

You should be happy I went that direction.

Now I feel a little weird as I'm holding a puppet on my hand, a Donald Trump puppet, and I'm pointing

with Donald Trump's nose

to Sarah.

But did you guys see the Tucker Carlson

interview?

I loved it.

You did.

You watched it.

Did you really?

I watched it as well.

I thought it was.

I thought it was really good.

I thought the two were genuine.

Yeah, Tucker is very genuine.

And bold.

Yeah.

I mean,

when Chris Wallace came up

and Trump said, I don't think that's a friend of yours.

And Tucker said, no, no, he's not a friend.

I mean, that's just honesty that you don't normally get.

Yeah.

And then for him to call him, what was it?

He called him a bitchy little man.

Wow.

I just

brash and bold.

Well, I like the part where

Tucker said,

I mean,

why wouldn't they just kill you?

And Del Trump was like, don't.

Was that a tough moment at all for Trump in there?

Did he get a tough question about about any of the

television?

Hardball stuff.

Okay.

No.

I mean, again,

I think they are aligned on most policy issues.

I wouldn't expect it to be some hit job, but I was sure.

I was interested to see if he'd push him on something like, you know, the vaccine or the vaccine or something like that.

No, that would have been interesting.

He pushed him, believe it or not, to get to that.

Why aren't they going to put a bullet in your head?

question.

He pushed him on Epstein.

Right.

The Epstein.

It was really sick.

Did Trump say he didn't believe it?

No, Trump said he he didn't believe it.

But Tucker absolutely said he was killed.

He was murdered.

And Trump said he was not.

No, not necessarily.

He said, I don't know.

But I don't think it's.

He kind of hedge, though.

I think it could go either way.

I got the impression he didn't believe at all.

Yeah, because he was like, I don't think so.

You know, I don't know.

I just think it was a very

sloppy situation.

Yeah, that's one way of putting it.

He also did talk about Bill Barr on how Bill Barr was a coward and he was afraid of impeachment and that's why he just kowtowed to everybody else.

So, you know, interesting.

Yeah, it was

better than the debate, I think.

Really?

I think Trump was a winner last night.

I think that's a very fair piece of analysis because no one

DeSantis, I liked Vivek.

Vivek.

Vivek.

Like cake.

Or, according to my audience, like fake.

Yeah.

It's definitely a lot of pushback on the weather thing.

He's very polarizing.

Like, I don't know why.

I don't love him or hate him.

Yeah.

Which is interesting.

I, I don't, you know, again, like, we, we come from such a different experience here with Vivek.

Like, we've known him long before he did.

Yeah.

This audience knows him.

He was on the show 10 times before he announced he ran for president, probably talking about his books and everything else over the past five years.

So like we know this guy.

And I think like the American people who watched him were going through were two different experiences.

People like who are watching The Blaze and are informed on this guy and have heard him talk a million times.

I think watched that and were like, eh, not his best performance.

I think he was like, I think it wasn't his best.

He had some, some of those back and forth.

I think somebody killed it.

Did you guys?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

I don't think anybody killed it.

I thought he was a good person.

The Blaze audience poll was good.

The Blaze audience poll had him at about 60% as the winner.

And the next closest was DeSantis, like at 37%.

Part of that, though, I think, was that he dominated the stage.

I mean,

they were all firing at him.

He was going back, but some of those, he even seemed to lose.

Like, I thought Chris Christie's, hey, you're repeating obama's lines was actually a good slam on him i mean it was hey oh who's the skinny guy with the funny name like who's the skinny guy with the funny name like what kind of what you know and it works with the puppet it does work with the puppet uh yeah i thought that was a bad exchange some of the other stuff i thought he actually sort of lost and and while he was good and he

He made a big impact, I thought for someone, for people who knew him and like he was really good in Iowa to the point of like he blew the room away.

I mean he owned the room when he was there.

With this I thought he was up and down.

I've heard many people say to me he felt a little like car salesman I am giving you a 1999 Acura.

It was that type of thing which I never taken I've never seen that from him before I never felt that way before on the other hand For people who had no idea, the overwhelming majority of people who had not paid attention to him and never seen him before, maybe never even heard of him before,

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Everyone was attacking him.

He came off, I think his

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I think he had the most impact in the debate last night, moving his position.

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Well, you've had enough cheeseburgers, too.

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The listeners on the feed are pointing out Larry Elder wasn't there last night.

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Did anybody win that debate last night?

Or was the big winner really Donald Trump?

Because it was viewed really kind of like, okay, who's number two?

Because number one wasn't there.

Who's running either for vice president or going to run for the big showdown with the big man if they can even get to that point?

I thought that's what happened.

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with Donald Trump.

110 million views as of this morning.

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That's a lot more,

probably about 10 or 11 times more than what Fox News had, for sure.

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Jack, what did you think first of all about the debate last night?

Well, Glenn, I watched the debate last night and I thought it was interesting.

I thought a lot of the candidates did well.

I think some of the sub-tier candidates

were largely not present.

I think some candidates phoned it in.

But really, the biggest standout for me was how can we be in a situation where the front runner for the opposition in this party is about to be arrested for the fourth time in a row the next day, which is today.

And they're up there, they're talking about

planning a Sunday brunch in the middle of a cat five hurricane.

This was ridiculous to me.

And I think the fact that it didn't dominate the discussion actually did a disservice to the people because you would hear these candidates saying, oh, well, I'll fight back.

I'll fight back.

You know, everyone says that.

What are you actually going to do?

going to do walk us through your steps to fix the situation that we're in because the last time i came on here I said that we are going through the fourth turning.

Look what's happening over in Russia.

They're assassinating the opposition,

these rebels who tried to come out on Putin down in South Africa.

Saudi Arabia just joined BRICS.

They've just announced they're joining BRICS today.

This is going on.

We have a regime that's locking up political opponents at home.

And I feel like these guys are debating like it's still the 1980s.

Yeah, I felt a lot of them were debating like the 1980s.

I also thought it was interesting how few of them said if he's arrested,

if they were going to, if they would still honor their pledge if he became the nominee.

And very few of them would be willing to raise their hand.

Only Vivek Ramaswamy raised his hand when he said, I'd pardon him

because, you know, we're going to move on from this.

And if he's convicted, this whole thing is a sham.

I'd pardon him.

And others didn't say that.

I think this is remarkable coming from the Republicans.

I think so.

And also, that was a moment where there was a quick moment.

But even for the DeSantis supporters out there, take a look at that because that Ron DeSantis looking around to see how other people reacted to the question before he decided to raise his hand.

Whether you want to call it fair or not, whether you want to call it a CNN gotcha-style question, I do agree that it was a gotcha-style question.

However, comma, that's the kind of stuff that leaves an indelible mark.

Because when you have one candidate showing a decisive answer, another candidate who seems like he's hedging, like he's hesitating, like he's looking around to see what other people are doing, that's the kind of thing that a

sort of, you know,

like a low propensity, low impact, you know, someone who's not paying attention to the news on a day-to-day news cycle, they're going to remember that.

That's the kind of stuff that is very sticky.

Those moments are incredibly sticky, and I do think that will stick with the governor.

So I think the

problem with the Trump topics last night, I don't want to,

at this point, dwell on the 2020 election.

However, that being said, we do have to have a strong accounting, which the Republicans were the only ones that could do it, and they didn't really do it in any state.

They didn't push to make sure that we're correcting all of the mistakes from the past or even finding the answers.

So you've kind of blown that one because now do we trust the next one or not?

And

I think just as important is what is happening to Donald Trump.

There's no way this, any of this would be happening if Donald Trump decided not to run.

But he's decided to run, and so they are going to put him in jail, come hell or high water.

And for the Republicans on stage last night and in Congress right now, for them not to be raising holy hell and cutting the budget of the FBI and the Justice Department until they stand up and give real answers and we get to the bottom of this, it's shameful.

And

you don't have to be a Trump supporter to believe that.

Every American should believe that.

Every American should be saying, wait a minute, no, what is happening here?

And we want real answers.

And you've been stonewalling on all of these things.

You don't get a dime from us.

And for the Republicans who control the House, which controls the purse strings, has got to be more than frustrating for Donald Trump and should be frustrating for every American.

That's exactly right.

And I think Fox News, quite frankly, did a huge disservice to the country by not making that front and center.

Now,

I can understand if they're guilted and the fact that he didn't show up and they're upset about this.

Get over it, right?

If you're going to conduct a debate for the benefit of the American people, then you have to get over the Murdoch family's financial and political standing and actually show that you can be a forum for all Americans.

And the fact of the matter remains that there are tens of millions of Americans that support Trump, and there's also tens of millions of Americans that support a fair process, that do not want to see a process where you've got prosecutors bringing these ridiculous indictments, novel legal theories, going after opponents.

No, this is not what we do in the United States.

We handle this at the ballot box.

That's how we've always done things in the United States.

And for Fox News to barely ask questions about it, to barely ask questions about election integrity, to barely bring up how we're going to conduct the election in 2024, which I don't think I heard any candidate really talk about this, ballot harvesting, drop boxes, any of these things.

Because the Republicans aren't doing it.

Geo-tracking.

The Republicans aren't doing anything about it.

I mean, it is,

I mean, they're just, it is like they are determined to lose.

Well, that's perhaps a more

sinister plan afoot there.

And I certainly could understand why people may think that because you need to be putting, look, if you're going to be one of these mules that's coming up in the 2024 election, guess what?

You need to hear someone on stage, I would love to hear one of these candidates, and even Trump hasn't even said this, say, I will institute real-time geotracking against every single Dropbox that's in any one of the target cities, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Maricopa County, and then Atlanta, Fulton County, real-time geotracking.

That if your phone is near there, and we know these mules are all going to be tracked because that's how they have to check in with their 501c3s and the Zuckerbox and the C4s, guess what?

Real-time geotracking.

We're going to be following you as you go in and out.

We're going to have James O'Keefe and an army of cameramen and hidden cameras, maybe even drone cameras all over the place.

Where's any discussion of this?

Because the way that Joe Biden was installed as president was through tactics.

We're focused on strategy.

We're focused on

this big vision, how things are going to happen when we get into office.

Great.

But you have to actually prove that Democrats understand they can't win on strategy.

They can't win on their political messaging.

They fail every time.

How did they win?

They won on tactics.

They changed fundamentally the way that elections are held in this country.

They've changed us from a system of voting on election to a system whereby in who collects the most ballots is able to install their own president.

And Republicans have not woken up to that new reality.

I don't see how they win any election going forward.

So,

Jack, what do you think of, I mean, Trump is going to turn himself in

today.

You know, there's this meme that's going around of all of the lawyers, Donald Trump's attorneys, and their mugshot

in Atlanta.

And it is, it's despicable.

I can't, I mean,

where is John Adams?

Where's the spirit of John Adams?

Wait, we're now arresting attorneys?

Are you kidding me?

So he's going in today.

One of the thoughts that we had last night was his attorneys must be happy that he wasn't at the debate stage yesterday because anything he says can be used against him now in a court of law, and they'll use anything against against him.

How is this going to play with him going down and having a mug shot?

You know, I think this is going to be the mug shot that's heard around the world.

You know, I think they said that the most

the mug shot that has the most sales in terms of t-shirts and other merchandise is

Bob Dylan.

Ellis Presley's got one out there.

I think this is going to be the number one

best-selling mug shot in American history when this thing comes out.

Because remember, and I say this for educational purposes only, but mugshots are a government document, which public document, which means you cannot be copyrighted.

I say this for educational purposes only.

But

in all seriousness,

we know Americans.

We love an underdog story.

Americans are the story of rebels, the story of people who left behind the old world and were willing to break rules to make something new.

We've all have this.

We have this in our DNA DNA because we're all descended from people who left the old world and came here.

That is indelible to the American character, to your point with John Adams.

We are the people that decided that to create something new and provide a new vision, we've had to break a few rules along the way.

You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

I think this is absolutely going to backfire on them.

I think it will be seen not only just by Trump supporters, but by independents, maybe even people on the left, RFK supporters, the former Bernie Bros, et cetera.

This is too far.

It's just just too far.

It's too far.

It's too much.

It's completely unprecedented.

And to see a president of the United States, regardless of if it's Donald Trump or not, this will be something that goes.

Glenn, this is a historic day.

This is an absolutely historic day.

A president of the United States fingerprinted, mug-shotted for the entire world to see.

I think the backlash will be swift and it will be deafening.

I want to play something for you, and then I'm going to break for a minute and get your take on it.

This is

Tucker with Trump last night,

cut four.

I'm looking at the trajectory since 2015 when you got into politics, you know, for real, and then one.

It started with protests against you, massive protests, organized protests by the left, and then it moved to impeachment twice.

Right.

And now indictment.

I mean, the next stage is violence.

Are you worried that they're going to try and kill you?

Why wouldn't they try and kill you?

Honestly,

They're savage animals.

They are people that are sick, really sick.

You have great people in the Democrat Party.

You have great people that are Democrats.

Most of the people in our country are fantastic, and I'm representing everybody.

I'm not just Republicans or conservatives.

I represent everybody.

I'm the president of everybody.

But I've seen what they do.

I've seen the lengths that they go to.

When they make up the Russia, Russia, Russia, when that's exposed and they go down and Barr should have gone after them and other people should have gone after them.

And they did very late because the Durham report came out.

It was fairly good.

It could have been a lot tougher, I guess, but it was fairly good.

So the question, even being asked, a serious question,

why wouldn't they just kill you to a former president of the United States really speaks volumes of where we're at?

Jack, what I want to know from you in a minute is

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So, what did you think of that question?

And what happens,

Jack, if we are

if we see this president actually go to jail?

Look, Glenn, they're talking about putting this guy,

this avatar, the voice of the people, the voice of tens of millions of people that have been crying out, the same people that just turned Richman North of Richmond into the number one song on its own billboard, it's on iTunes, et cetera.

These people are angry.

These people are very, very upset.

And if you take away

this Trump, not just a person, but the symbol of what Trump represents, this ability to fight back, this ability of somebody from, you know, who sort of was part of that ruling class that came down and said, you know what,

everything that you believe that's going on behind those closed doors, it's 10 times worse.

And how do I know?

Because I was in on it.

But you know what?

I want to do something for you.

That's why people support Trump.

That's it.

It's as simple as that.

And if they go to strip him from the ballot, as they've already publicly said hundreds of times at this point, they want to strip him from the ballot in all 50 states.

Gavin Newsom has already taken steps to do so in California, which would obviously set up a constitutional crisis.

They're talking about putting him in jail.

And I talked about this on Human Events the other day.

I think it would blow this country apart, Glenn.

I really do think it would blow this country apart.

If Donald Trump did the Martin Luther King or Gandhi approach and said, you can be out in the streets, but I want you to be peaceful and peaceful vigils.

If it was spun that way,

he could change the world and change America in a positive direction.

I don't know how many FBI psyops and everything else would happen at the same time to cause the violence, but they desperately need the violence.

And if he played it completely differently than what they would expect,

it could change things rapidly.

But if

we don't have that spirit among us, you're right.

As he said last night, it's a very dangerous thing what's happening right now.

And you don't want to see when you put anger and frustration and hunger and all of this out onto the streets.

It's not a good thing.

No, go ahead.

Go ahead.

We're hurtling towards a...

America is parallel to the Weimar Republic right now, as you and I spoke about the last time I was on.

You look at where credit card debt is the highest in American history at a trillion dollars, topping a trillion dollars, mortgages going through the roof, interest rates going up like crazy.

When the people get hungry, the people get angry.

And I think you're right.

I would love to see this call for a peaceful, nonviolent response.

Sing the Oliver Anthony songs, hold prayer vigils, hold prayer sit-ins, et cetera.

But at the same time, Glenn, we know that the FBI, the operations, inciting riots the same way they did on January 6th to prevent hearing of a debate on January 6th, which is the entire point of why people were traveling to D.C., was to hear this debate within the well of the Senate that never took place.

I think you would see all of that and more.

PSYOPS on psyops on psyops, all of which would be blamed on Trump, which we blamed on the American people, probably blamed on Russia and a bevy of other foreign actors.

And they would use it to start throwing all the leaders of this movement into the gulag right next to Trump.

Yeah, I agree with you.

But that's what they did to Martin Luther King as well.

And in the end, he won.

He wasn't around to see it, but he did win.

Thank you so much, Jack.

I appreciate it.

Thanks for your counsel on this.

Tomorrow, I believe Donald Trump

has agreed to come on tomorrow on the program.

We just want to talk to him about this historic day of President of the United States being fingerprinted and a mugshot.

And they seem to be doing it with glee.

Oh, well, of course, right.

No, the sheriff's department, though.

I mean, yeah, but in that particular area, it's not a huge surprise.

And, you know, they could obviously not do this if they wanted to, but they love every bit of it.

They love every bit of releasing the mug shot.

I mean, look.

You know, they did it with Giuliani's.

I saw him come out the other day.

It's kind of a pathetic thing.

It's very pathetic.

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My producers, I was sketching last night as I was listening to the debate, and it became a thing on the debate.

And more people were asking about the sketches, I guess, than paying attention to the debate.

My producers suggested we just give those away.

I don't, I mean, they're worth what you'll you'll pay for them, which is zero.

But there's, you know, there's a couple of things in there that are kind of cool.

They suggest they would like to do a contest of if you were going to name last night's debate a movie,

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the movie title for it.

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We have Selena Zito with us now.

Selena, where'd you watch the debate last night?

In a bar.

In a bar, okay.

All right.

Not because of the alcoholism.

I think that's under control.

But you, I wanted you on today because you are

an observer of people and you have called

the

last couple of elections

exactly.

And these

we're entering really difficult times.

How did the people react last night to the debate?

You know, people were really excited.

And I think that, and not I think, is after conversations with them during and after, and sort of watching their reactions,

is that they understand

that this next generation

of

conservative populists, because that's basically what was on the stage, right?

This new formation of the Republican Party, which can be nothing, which is conservative populism,

they felt that they had

a grasp of important policy issues.

They were each to a degree in a different direction, but basically in the same line with them.

And

people were really excited last night because they got to see people

most

had governing experience, but also had a willingness to punch back and not take it in the same way that perhaps a Mitt Romney

would handle being attacked, right?

How is Mike Pence Pence received?

With respect.

You know,

people,

whether, you know,

he was nowhere on the chart for anyone's pick.

However, there is a deep respect for Mike Pence.

People look at him as a man who has served this country

and did a good job while he did it.

And

believed, even whether they still loved Trump or didn't, believed he did what what he was supposed to do on January 6th.

No matter how hard that decision was, no matter how much pressure that he faced, they believed doing the right thing is not always easy, but something you have a duty to do.

But uh, but he was perceived last night

as

just not a factor, though, in this election.

No, no, I wouldn't say that he was a factor.

Yeah.

In terms of a choice.

Right.

However, I think what he had to say was important.

And,

you know, there are a lot of conservatives that are

concerned about saying out loud how they felt about what happened on January 6th in either direction, whether they thought that it was important,

whether they thought it was overblown.

You know, no matter what you say about January 6th, if you're conservative, you are going to get bashed.

So they thought that Pence at that moment maybe spoke on both sides of it in a way that was

comforting to them.

So there is,

I think there were

maybe

definitely two, but maybe three players, if you put Nikki Haley in there,

that

made some ground.

So tell me about Nikki Haley, Vivek, Ramaswamy, and DeSantis.

What was the reaction?

Yeah,

those three, when I walked out of that bar, those were the three that people really liked.

They liked, what they liked about Haley and what they liked about DeSantis is that they've proven track records of good governing, right?

Governing as conservatives.

That's important.

They also punch back.

They like that.

They may not always agree with what they punch back with, but they liked that they aren't milquetoast, that they aren't, you know,

they are the same people that would stand up for a Supreme Court nominee in the way that Trump did when

his Supreme Court nominees were under attack.

They would look at them as those two as

being capable and competent to do that, but also fiery enough.

And in terms of Ramaswamy, well, he,

you know,

I was the first person, I'm the one that actually broke the news that he was running.

I sat down with him in his home in Columbus, Ohio,

and interviewed him the day before he announced.

And so he was, but he still had only been sound bites, right?

People didn't see him

interact.

People didn't see, you know, what he was all about.

And they got a taste of it.

And it was a pretty divided room on

some of the things that he said.

They liked his

aspirational

ideas.

They liked his youth.

They liked his willingness to punch back against the establishment of both parties.

But they're not quite sure totally on substance.

and not that he's not substantive, but on all things, they're not sure yet if he has the maturity to be or either that, the wisdom to surround himself with

people that would

make him good at the job of being president.

Because when you're president, you know, Reagan was a perfect example of this.

The things that you're weak at, you have to make sure you surround yourself with competent people that

can help guide you, not tell you what to do, but guide you out of dangerous territories.

So, who was the big winner last night?

I think Republicans were.

I think they had, you know, that, and this is based on watching people.

Everyone that left that event was very happy.

Everyone that left

that bar was happy.

And for anyone who thinks that conservatism is dying or the Republican Party was dying, this was mostly young people.

And these were people that are professionals, that are in their mid-30s, in their mid-40s, which I now consider young.

and just were very excited about their choices.

I think the important thing to remember

is

that voter, we tend to forget that voters rarely, whether it's in politics or in their personal lives, look in the rearview mirror.

They always look forward.

Just think about the problems that you face.

in life.

If you stay stuck in the past, you tend to not be successful.

You tend to not be able to move on in your personal life,

whatever the issue is.

But people that are aspirational tend to move forward.

And so while

everyone that was there voted for Trump, they're not as glued to it as

what you sort of hear about

in the national news.

The national news has a narrative.

blah, blah, blah.

But

I think this is a very open race.

It doesn't mean that Trump's not going to win it, but I also think that we should pay attention to everyone.

So I agree with you,

but strangely, because I think Trump, when he was talking to Tucker, there was a point towards the beginning where they were just talking about 2020 and the election results and all of that.

And I thought that that's not.

If we focus on that, and it's important to figure out exactly what happened and make sure that we correct those things, but that's what the GOP should be doing right now.

But

if we are being dragged back,

then

we lose the future of the country.

That is.

That's right.

But everybody is very, very loyal to Donald Trump.

I'm loyal to Donald Trump for what he's going through.

He doesn't have to go through this.

He's going in today

to get a mug shot and fingerprint.

I mean, this is historic what they're doing to this guy.

Do the people that support him,

will they even consider somebody else?

Yeah, they will.

It's a really interesting nuance.

And again, I don't mean to come across as saying that I don't think Trump will win.

I'm not trying to give that impression, but I think it's important to understand that voters can be willing to just be extremely outraged at what Trump is going through, be extremely happy with the policies that he set forward, and still not

want him to be the nominee.

There is a portion of that, and I think it's important to pay attention to to those voices.

And I think part of the challenge that Trump faces right now, and this is really to your point, and I'm so glad that you made this,

is to not constantly talk about 2020.

We have to remember, we have to remember that 2020 was probably the worst year in everyone's lives.

If they didn't lose a loved one or a friend or a coworker or a childhood friend friend or and or and or their profession wasn't dramatically changed yeah or their job or their business their job or their business or their children haven't fallen behind or their finances haven't taken a hit re-litigating that race and by the way that race was just absolutely horrible re-litigating that race means that we are forcing people to relive 2020

And

that is his challenge.

One of Donald Trump's greatest gifts in 2016

was his aspiration.

Yes.

People missed, reporters missed

what Make America Great Again meant.

It meant being part of something bigger than themselves.

The reporters called it nationalistic, racist, bigoted, whatever.

You know, just add an ist at the name of the end of a word, and that's what they called it.

What they missed was that it was aspirational.

So he was always talking about going forward, going forward, going forward together.

And his problem right now is that he

talks too much about 2020, and he talks too much about himself.

That is the challenge that he faces.

Yeah, and that's a tough challenge.

I mean, especially when they are trying to put you in jail.

That's really hard.

Selena.

I completely agree with you.

That is what voters told me.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

We'll talk again soon.

All right.

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I'd like to hear your thoughts on the debate last night and the Tucker interview.

If you watched both of those especially, I'd like to hear from you.

And what your thoughts on

the whole thing, all the way from Fox News not allowing any clips to be shown, three minutes total per week, and it can't, it has to be deleted from all files if you air it.

It's crazy.

It is truly crazy.

Nobody is covering the debate.

And I can't figure out why they would do that.

It's not good for their business.

It's not good for the Republican Party.

Yeah.

I mean, it's bad all the way around.

Really bad for the Republican Party, who's the whole point of having these debates is to

your candidates available to a wide audience so they understand their views.

And then

to give this to Fox and allow them to do this, I really do put a lot of the blame on the RNC here.

You need to catch that beforehand and say, no, this needs to be widely distributed.

You can air it.

Everyone's going to watch it live on your air.

Everyone's going to go to you for coverage, of course, pre-game, post-game.

I mean, a lot of people came to the Blaze too, but a lot of people went to Fox News.

You get that benefit.

You know, I can understand you saying you can't air the entire debate on another channel.

Of course, they have that protection, but clips, especially the next few weeks, I mean, they're acting like they're the Oscars here.

The Grammys, and banning Clips, banning people from airing clips.

Except this is something that's not like the Oscars of the Grammys.

This means something.

Yeah, it should.

And it means something.

And if it doesn't mean something to Fox, man, that tells you something about Fox, doesn't it?

Yeah.

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I think the

Fox News has done a great disservice for America as I am watching the news

on CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, and Fox News.

So, I'm watching the four real networks, and nobody's really covering the debates.

They're talking about it, but nobody's playing any of the clips.

This is such a disservice to the Republic, such a disservice to the Republicans, and it is Fox's decision, but it's the GOP's fault for allowing them to do it.

You should have said, no, no.

You don't get the debate unless you meet terms that meet both of our goals, right?

You guys get something out of having the exclusive that night, and then it becomes part of the news cycle.

Correct.

That's how these things seemingly have always worked.

And so there are a lot of places,

radio, television, internet especially,

you can't play them.

You can't play any of these clips.

Or Fox has said they will come after you and sue you.

It is, it's ridiculous and is real disservice to the

to the nation and to the GOP

because it was it was quite good

last night.

And I think you showed,

I came away hopeful.

Usually I watch these debates and I'm like, oh, God, shut up.

And I didn't get there.

I actually enjoyed even the

dummies on stage, strangely.

Yeah.

Well, it was kind of interesting.

It was.

I thought this is a totally wrong take to have on conservative radio, probably, but I actually thought Chris Christie's appearance there made it better.

Because he's like, he gets in the middle of stuff and like no one's going to vote for the guy.

And like no one takes him seriously.

But

he does argue.

He had a couple, you know, a couple of good lines.

I thought there was a good chance he was going to go on there and just nonstop talk about how evil Donald Trump was.

He did a little of that, but not much.

It was really like he was active.

He seemed like he was actually running as a candidate.

But the fact that he'll mix it up.

And it did create some of the better back and forth moments of the night, even when he lost them.

Let me go to Lee in Virginia.

What did you think of the debate last night?

Oh, it was okay, I suppose.

I only watched about the second half of it, but it was

one of those things where I didn't really appreciate a lot of the questions.

Yeah.

I wanted something more deep.

Some of the answers seemed more canned, although

anytime

seemed to get in it with anybody, that was incredibly entertaining.

Yeah, it was.

And

then even I'm not really a King or a Chris Christie fan, but

I really appreciated his initial reaction to the UFO question

with the what?

This is what I'm getting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I agree with you, Lee, and

I think the questions from the moderators were less than just silly or not so good.

I think there were several questions that, especially the abortion question.

The way it was phrased, Martha McCallen comes up and says, it's a loser for Republicans.

No, it's not.

No, it's really not.

It might have been right after in 2020, but if you look at what's happened since, 25 states have moved to put restrictions,

more restrictions

on abortion.

And all of the governors that signed these, all of them have won if they were in their race.

There has been some negative points.

There have to be.

Like, I mean, the Ohio situation we talked about a couple of weeks ago was not good.

There's been several.

There have been ramifications to this, though.

I keep asking this question, and

I thought this was one of Nikki haley's really bad moments last night

again i don't you know she's fine but like

you're the fact that you're talking politics around this issue is is rough it's like if you can't trade election losses for saving millions of babies lives what the hell are you worth who are you what's the point of you if you can't do that and like i get that the correct answer to me glenn is like look We want to save as many babies as possible, right?

We'll take every incremental step we can take to get to that end.

The long term is, we need to convince people hearts and minds need to be changed.

So this is as abhorrent to Americans as slavery is.

And we have a constitutional amendment that bans it.

Yes.

But like, we, I understand we're not going to get there today.

Nikki Haley's point on we don't have enough senators to pass it is correct, but like that doesn't mean you don't try.

There should be a constitutional amendment banning abortion every single year they

vote on.

This is the problem with the GOP.

They are afraid of their own shadow and the shadows that are cast by progressives, Democrats, and the media.

You know, they say

the fact check from, I think it was Washington Post or New York Times came out, and the fact check on abortion was nobody is trying to go for

no limit abortion.

That's absolutely not true.

And they reported in their fact check that No,

nobody's pushing for that.

Nobody's pushing for that.

What are you talking about?

I mean, seven states already have a law that says any point during the pregnancy.

What do you mean no one supports it?

We must have 100 different politicians on record

all in the Democratic Party saying there are no limits on abortion.

There should be no limits.

There are no limits.

I don't support any limits.

What are you talking about?

No one's advocating for this.

I know.

And this is what happens when you have a...

a media that represents the establishment and doesn't represent the people anymore.

Bob in Kansas, what did you think of the debate last night?

Wow, I'm surprised you got to me.

I just wanted to say that

Vivek both helped and hurt himself.

I think he said a lot of good things

that would push the party forward and a lot of revolutionary type of things.

He always says those type of things.

But at the same time, he was really kind of condescending in some of the things that he said and how he said them, maybe.

and so I think that he kind of helped himself but he hurt himself so he won and lost

and and if I could say something on a personal note as a recovering alcoholic myself

you did save my life

I called in another time and

and I was drunk

but you did save my life and

I didn't get on the line but that time that I called, but I called in that other time time because of the guy that um called in because he didn't he didn't want to continue um and I know you know what I'm talking about but I do

I just appreciate you and and

it took me getting a new liver to to be here but uh I appreciate you Wow I am so glad that you are recovering Bob and that you're still with us and life

only gets better the farther you get away from your drinking days the more you realize, wow, I really

love life.

It is good.

Thanks, Bob, for your call.

That gave me chills.

I don't know if I just didn't expect it because we're just talking in the middle of dumb politics right now, but like that gave me chills.

I mean, that's incredible.

You've destroyed so many lives, and you saved one.

Well, so commitment.

Thank you.

No, but seriously,

that's a great

story.

Really nice.

Thank you for that.

Decker in Texas, the debate.

Yes, sir.

Ramaswamy killed it.

I think he was awesome last night.

I think he captured the passions of the people.

Sure, like Bob said, he was a little arrogant, but he reminds me of Trump in that respect.

Yeah.

I felt like he saw through all those,

I say,

fakers out there, but, you know, it's hard for me to look at some of those people after knowing what I know.

Yeah, I will tell you that

he struck me last night

as

optimistic, having the optimism of Reagan, strangely, even though he said it's not morning in America.

He strangely still had that Reagan optimism.

He has the

fighting spirit of Donald Trump.

And

I thought it worked.

I do think that he stepped over the line a couple of times, and I can see how people thought that he was

arrogant at times.

And especially if you don't know him.

But

I'm giving him a break on that.

This is his first time ever doing this.

I thought he did a really good job for a first-timer.

I also say he's getting hit on one fact check that is not true in my understanding of it.

And again, I've seen some of the DeSantis people

tweet this stuff out.

And just to get the record straight,

he said on stage, the report is that, and a lot of mainstream media is reporting this as well, that he said the climate change is a hoax.

And then they're going back to his book where he said, I believe climate change is real but this is what we should do about it as i remember and correct me if i'm wrong i think he said the climate agenda is a hoax i think he did too and that is a totally different point

and is consistent with what i think he wrote about in his book so i i think he is getting a little bit of an unfair beat let's go to the uh the audio or videotape uh okay oh oh wait i got the puppy right here

the climate agenda is a hoax wow that's what he said so there you go thank you very much uh let me go to uh stephen North Carolina.

You watched Tucker's interview with Trump last night.

Hey, Glenn.

Privileged to talk to you, man.

Yeah,

I was disappointed.

I was really, you know, Tucker left Fox, and I just felt like the interview that we got, that could have been aired on Fox.

That was like Fox material to me.

I was looking for the Tucker to come out to really press Trump on the issues Tucker has told us about that's been really concerning to him Ukraine the vaccine these type things that just kind of, I don't think, got enough play last night in the debate.

And I think with Trump, I was really hoping that Tucker would take it to Trump, ask some tough questions, because I'm very curious to know where he stands on that many years later after, you know, we're kind of in this weird lull of COVID and we hear the rumors of what's coming.

But where is Trump's mindset on COVID?

What does he really think about warp speed now?

What about the whole Fauci thing where he let that guy just kind of take over the presidency?

I really wanted to hear that and was kind of disappointed in Tucker and with the interview.

I just feel like it kind of fell flat to me.

I tend to agree with you that I would have liked to see just because we are entering, not to go back and re-litigate, but we are hearing rumors about the new COVID mandates that are coming.

And, you know, I was disappointed that it didn't come up in the Fox debate and it didn't come up with Tucker.

Where do we go from here?

You know,

can we all agree that this was bad and should never happen again?

And should somebody pass a law to make sure it doesn't happen again?

Yeah, and I'll say too, I think the energy of the party is against funding Ukraine right now.

Voters are feeling that way in the Republican Party.

The overwhelming percentage of lawmakers in the Republican Party support funding Ukraine in some way.

And it's important to note that Trump said he would send even more weapons than

Biden wanted to send to do this.

So pressing him on that would be interesting.

That doesn't mean that Donald Trump's out of line with Republican thought generally.

It's a very well-represented place.

Everyone's beating up Mike Pence and Tim Scott and Nikki Haley for holding that view.

But Trump has at least indicated he's pretty friendly to that view.

And I think a lot of his supporters aren't.

So I think that sort of stuff would have been interesting to examine with someone like Tucker, who's so good at interviews.

I think he would have been.

Here's what I think Trump meant by that.

I will provide arms if they don't come to the table.

And I'll provide more arms than they can possibly do.

It's his negotiation.

It's North Korea thing.

Yeah, exactly right.

Exactly.

He's the way he negotiates.

He's going to be able to a lot on both sides because he thinks it's going to advance a negotiation.

Yeah, okay.

Back in just a second.

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Let me get to the first scientific poll on who won the debate in just a second.

First, let me go to Tammy, listening to us, I think, in New York.

Tammy?

Hi, how are you?

Very good.

I'm calling in because I am a registered Democrat in New York State, and I am not happy with how the country stands right now.

So I needed to see what other options, even meaning on the other side of the fence,

what they had to bring me to the table.

I thought DeSantis last night held his own.

He had a lot of points that I was interested in.

I thought Chris Christie did his standard talking above everybody.

So that pretty much got me in the same place that every one of his debates has gotten me in the past.

And that being said, not many other people kind of jazzed me.

So I think in the future, as much as I have voted on the Democratic side, I definitely want to learn more about the Republicans.

And right now, things are kind of leaning toward DeSantis.

So what is it, Tammy, that has made you, you still haven't changed your affiliation.

You still claim to be a Democrat.

What is it that is changing you?

What's happening in the world that is opening your eyes to say, maybe I should look for something else?

I will say this.

I am a fixed income person,

and I know for a fact that what I have in my pocket at the end of every what I used to have in my pocket at the end of every month is now not even there at the end of every week.

And that does not help

anybody,

especially me.

So that being said, and seeing how the past three years has just taken more away from me, increased my health costs.

And

it's just, it's very frustrating.

I went to the grocery store yesterday.

It was the most depressing thing I've seen in years.

I know, it's crazy.

It needs to be changed.

And so, in order for it to be changed, we have to make the changes.

And me maybe voting for another party is what I need to do.

So, Tammy, I'm just trying to get a handle on

how you may have seen the world or are seeing the world.

What the cause of that, in your opinion, of the prices going up?

I think

I've seen more lately that the United States just seems to give and give and give, but to other people, not to our own country.

And I think some of that, you know, I've always said it is not the United States world to completely police the world.

And if, you know, some of the money that's that's that's going overseas and and helping them whereas you know I haven't seen one dollar be mentioned about what happened in Hawaii that's frustrating it's very frustrating it's very sad

Tammy I you know I like I said I've seen the price of groceries go right through the roof I worked with a lot of people in the restaurant industry they can't put a plate on their menu for the same price even close to what it was COVID did not help COVID did not help

one little bit.

And the problem is, we're not rebounding from that the way everybody thought we would have.

I would love to continue our conversation.

If you wouldn't mind, I'd love to get your phone number.

I'm interested in hearing somebody in transition, whichever way they're going, you know, towards a Republican or towards a Democrat, to see what is

opening their mind.

Thank you so much, Temmi, for calling and thanks for listening.

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All right.

So you are in a situation like Tammy, where you are going and you're looking at your money and it doesn't last the month.

It doesn't last the week, as she said.

It's inflation that is really the problem.

We are spending far too much money and they are just printing more money.

And so the value of your dollar is going up.

It's not that prices are going up.

It's the value of your dollar is going down.

That's the real problem.

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Seth Dylan is with us.

He is the CEO of the Babylon Bee and wanted to get him in today to talk a little bit about the debate and where we are.

What did you think of the debate last night?

Well, I went on the internet

where people tell me what to think.

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah.

So

what did they tell me to think?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, I will say this.

I don't know how to judge

how someone won a debate like this because there's so many people on stage vying for attention.

And sometimes the person who gets the most attention is the winner, even if they didn't do the best.

Right.

I feel like that was probably Vivek because,

I mean, it seemed like it was like Pence and Vivek going at it like half the time.

Right.

There was a lot of...

back and forth between them.

Right.

Pence was kind of creepy.

Didn't you think?

Yeah.

At the beginning, very smiley, like excessively smiley.

And then went a little dark.

Yeah, and that kind of, that was a little weird for me.

Yeah.

But, I mean, look,

to your comment, it was his first time and he handled himself very well.

I think he really did.

But

I don't know how to pick a winner in these things.

I don't know.

I think whoever we're talking about the most, whoever people are either attacking or praising the most, is the winner of the thing.

And so you just have to kind of see who's trending on Twitter, I guess.

So X,

X.

What if...

Yeah.

Like, that's going to catch up.

Who was the official official winner?

Yes, Daily Mail came out with the first, what I've seen, scientific poll for what that's worth.

Who had the best debate performance?

Number one was Vivek Ramaswamy, 28%.

Ron DeSantis, number two, 27%.

Mike Pence was number three, 13%.

I think I'm not surprised by that.

I mean, because to your point, he was aggressive.

He was very aggressive and engaged.

You know, he got in the middle of it.

And, you know, his views, I don't think, are exactly aligned with voters right now in the party, but he was aggressive and he was in the middle of

those fights.

He had some good points mixed in there.

And for a guy who has really not made any noise at all,

all you're talking about is turning up the volume a little bit, right?

He was so active, had there been a fly on his head, it probably would have flown off.

Yes, yes, possibly.

Questionably.

Tim Scott was next at eight.

That one was strange because I didn't think he made...

He didn't really seem to stand out at all to me.

Nikki Haley, 7%.

Chris Christie, 4.

Doug Bergamentum at 3%.

And Asa Hutchinson at 2.

Poor Asa.

Oh, man.

I wish we had the Transporter from Star Trek because I would have beamed a lot of them right back up.

So you also have

the book about gender, The Babylon Bee Guide to Gender.

Not a single question about this.

No, that was shocking.

Not one.

I noticed that.

Not one.

Well, you've got Fox running the thing, right?

And Fox has been under some fire recently from the right for being kind of like, squishy or possibly even like pro-trans on some issues, you know?

So I was not really surprised by it, but I was disappointed that it would, I mean, it's like that's like the cultural issue of our time right now.

It's the reason we wrote this book.

Well, does this help us define a woman?

Because I, you know, there's, there is a test in here.

Listen, we are not biologists.

Right.

So this is

a no.

So I think we wouldn't be qualified to give you a definition of woman.

Yeah.

Well, your test, still not sure if you're a woman, take the test.

Are you always cold?

No.

No, I am always cold.

Yeah.

Has a human ever popped out of you?

No.

I don't think so.

No.

Yeah.

Okay.

Have you ever decorated a bed with six or more pillows?

I refuse to answer.

Can you tell the difference between cream white and rustic farmhouse white?

Oh, I refuse to.

Glenn definitely can.

Glenn's got two points so far.

Yeah.

Have you run into a curb in the past 24 hours?

Be honest, Carol.

Do you bleed

for an extended period of time at regular intervals?

Does it take you over three hours to decide what you want to eat?

Are you currently a member of at least three pyramid schemes?

Again, this just allows us to draw general inferences, though, but because we're not biologists, we can't say definitively.

Of course, this quiz will give you a good idea.

Right.

Do you find simple movie plots hard to follow?

Do you frequently describe your emotional state as fine when you're not, in fact, fine?

Is your Starbuck drink order anything other than black coffee?

Do you listen to Harry Styles?

Do you know who Harry Styles is?

That's great.

That's great.

So we had this problem.

You know, for most of human history,

we didn't have science.

We were all a bunch of of bigots.

And we thought that there were just men and women.

And then science was invented very recently, and they determined that men can get pregnant and that women can suffer testicle injuries.

And so once scientists discovered that, it opened up this huge,

you know,

awesome opportunity to explore the gender spectrum and how truly infinite it is.

Yeah, I was really happy that Nikki Haley multiple times pointed out that she was a woman because how else would we know?

As onlookers, we wouldn't know she was the only female candidate, but she pointed it out like every three or four years.

She had to say it.

Right, yes.

But is she a biologist?

Does she know?

Does she even know?

Well,

I make that reference because, I mean, this was, that

comes from the Supreme Court

nomination.

You've got a situation where you've got somebody getting confirmed to the Supreme Court saying, I cannot define what a woman is.

That's how insane we've become.

I think, too, that's how insane we become.

And so to satirize it, you really don't have to satirize it.

No, no, no, you don't.

You really just have to hold it up there

and say, look how absurd this is.

That's kind of what this book does.

We don't really have to go much further than you can.

Where else do you go?

Right.

Right.

I tell people all the time, they think our job is easier than ever because the world is so crazy.

And I say, imagine if your job is to write jokes that are funnier than what Democrats are doing in real life.

That's your job.

It's impossible.

Good luck.

That's why you guys keep predicting the future, right?

Like, exactly.

You keep writing these fake articles and then they come true like six months later.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We have a lot of those.

There are times when I honestly look at something and laugh because I think it's you.

Right.

And then I'm like, oh, dear God, no, this is real.

Well, we just, there's just that, I think it was New York Times op-ed about how elections are bad for democracy or something like that.

We had made a joke about that.

And that's another one of those ones that came true.

It's just, it's wild.

So are we, are we close to the end yet?

I mean, end of the insanity, not end of the country or anything else, but are, I mean, there are some, for instance, comedy is coming back.

Yeah.

And it's coming roaring back.

Yeah.

I think.

You're seeing things that just three, four years ago, you would have never seen.

Never seen.

Well,

in comedy, you're saying?

Yeah.

I do appreciate that there.

And I think a big part of the shift will be when comedians start taking this stuff less seriously and actually joke about it.

This is one of the problems that we've had from my perspective doing humor and satire is there are so many of these comedians, especially the late night talk shows, stuff like that is just propping up the popular narrative and not challenging it or poking holes in it.

It's almost propaganda.

It is propaganda, and propaganda is not funny.

No.

But then you've still got guys like Bill Maher, for example, who I disagree with on almost everything.

He did a monologue on the whole gender issue and talked about how crazy it was.

He joked about how when he was a kid, he wanted to be a pirate.

Thank God no one scheduled him for peg leg surgery and eye removal.

And that was funny.

And those kinds of jokes, people don't understand the power of comedy to undermine these bad ideas and make them seem absurd.

And it's been my contention for a long time, I've said this for for a long time, that the absurd has only become so popular and sacred where you can't even criticize it because it hasn't been mocked enough.

Well, that is the one thing that dictators and

authoritarian figures hate the most.

Yeah.

Being mocked.

Because once they mock you, I mean,

look at how popular comedy was when they were mocking the right.

Right.

And you had Jon Stewart, you had all these people mocking the right, mocking in our society.

It was very effective.

It worked.

Extremely effective.

Absolutely worked.

And then all of a sudden, all those shows went away.

Well, it's working in the other way now, where they're all in support of the narrative and the powers that be.

And so they're not challenging it.

And so that just allows them to maintain their power instead of undermining it.

And the comedian's primary job, really, besides making you laugh, which is really rule number one,

is to speak truth to power, right?

Just doing it through humor and mockery and making fun of them.

poking holes in the popular narrative.

So I think if we if we do that, if we start seeing comedians do that, if people start to really wake up, especially now that kids are involved in all of this, you see parents waking up and speaking up about these things, if people actually get the courage to start challenging this stuff and pointing out how crazy it is, then I think we do.

The pendulum does swing back the other way.

How much of that do you believe?

Well, it all depends on if that actually happens.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

If it actually happens, yeah, I think we make a lot of progress.

Otherwise, we'll be the lone lunatics who seem like lunatics who are still saying that two and two make four.

Yeah.

is your job at all

kind of depressing because

you're pointing these things out and you're, I mean, comedy is fun.

Yeah.

You know, it's fun.

It's hard work, but it's fun.

Um, but when you're writing it and then you see it come true,

you ever sit around with everybody going, good God, man.

What?

I mean, this.

It is disconcerting when the jokes come true.

It is.

I mean, we do get a laugh out of it.

It's always a, it's, we have this list.

We have a spreadsheet where we're tracking the fulfilled prophecies, and there's nearly 100.

I think we're at like 97 or so.

Like, we're about to hit 100 of these.

Where over the course of the last, the B was started in 2016.

So we didn't have a lot of them early on, but lately it's been ramping up and they're coming true more and more quickly.

Sometimes we'll publish an article and within a matter of hours, it comes true and it's reported in the headlines.

So that is disconcerting.

Can we get that list?

I'd love to go over that.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Like right now?

Well, no, no, no.

Okay.

At some time.

Yeah.

But yeah, it's a spreadsheet.

I think I have a link to it in my

in my bio.

I have like the link tree and there's a link to it in there.

Someone could pull it up if they wanted to.

But yeah, we have a lot of, we track them in a spreadsheet.

So it's insane.

It is disconcerting.

It is somewhat depressing that

people think that they often criticize us.

Our jokes are too close to reality, and that's why people believe them.

And that's not the case.

It's that reality is too close to satire.

Correct.

And that's why people believe our jokes because the real real headlines, you remember the headline from a couple years ago?

I think this is a great example of how shark attacks are being rebranded as negative interactions because it's like stigmatizes the sharks as these violent creatures.

Like that is comedy.

It's comedy.

But that's in the, it's in the New York Post.

It's a real headline.

And so like those kinds of things, it's just...

You laugh or cry, Glenn.

I don't know.

I know.

I think you're going to, I think we're going to come back when we're past this emotionally

and we're

away from it and we've hopefully rediscovered the truth, the truth will be rediscovered.

It's just whether we destroy ourselves completely before we rediscovered.

Before we have to rebuild from the ground up.

Correct.

But it will be rediscovered.

And when it does, people will look back at this time.

I mean, they will write about this period of history in so many different ways.

I think the destruction, the way the left has pulled this off is brilliant.

This happened quickly, too.

I mentioned Bill Maher a minute ago.

Dennis Prager was on Bill Maher's show a few years ago.

You remember this clip from like, what is it, 2018?

I don't know when it was.

Not that long ago.

I think it was.

And he was talking about how they were starting to put tampons in the boys' restroom.

And Bill Maher and his audience thought that was hysterical.

You're out of your mind.

You're making that up.

It's not really happening.

I mean, that's how quickly it's gone.

So tell me,

when you've who's this book targeted to?

Me?

Or is this a book that...

Because I really, I want to ask the people who have gone down this road where I've got to have tampons in the boys room.

Yeah.

You would have thought that was insane.

In fact, you know,

the

clip that you're talking about, they did.

All the Democrats in the room thought it was crazy.

All of them thought it was crazy.

Yeah.

There's no new

evidence that has been revealed.

You know, we haven't found, hey, look at this.

You know, it's a removable penis on, you know, on old bones that we found right it nothing has changed right except people have just told you that you have to say these things and this is the new science yeah

do do you think people will

pick this up and maybe

maybe go

second guess it yeah i think they might so one of our most popular articles ever was about how a motorcyclist identified as a bicyclist and set a world record.

And it went crazy viral.

It got like 6 million or 8 million shares or something like that on Facebook.

And I got a stream of emails, a steady stream of emails from people, no joke, emailing me straight face saying, I didn't really understand the men and women sports issue, what the issue is.

I thought it was all about tolerance and acceptance until I read this article.

It like made it clear for me how crazy this is.

It really does actually have an impact on people's thinking when you draw out the absurdity of it that way by putting it in a humorous context.

So I don't know.

Can you hand this book to a liberal Democrat who's on board with all this stuff and they will all of a sudden renounce all of it?

I don't know that that's necessarily the case.

I'm going to leave one in the middle.

But a reasonable person, reasonable person reading through this, I think, will find a lot of it funny and they'll find it funny because it's true.

And like you said,

you can't,

the truth will assert itself

at some point.

Yes.

And you can't overcome that.

Yeah.

Thanks so much for being here, Seth.

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Appreciate it.

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And thank you to all the puppet makers.

They're unbelievable.

I've got got to show them online, show all of them.

I mean,

does that not look like Mike Pence?

Morocco puppets?

Yeah.

Morocco Pence.

And

that one's Bergamania.

This one is Asa.

And

where's the other?

Oh, here's the other.

Big fat one.

I don't know who that's supposed to be.

I don't know.

Very large.

I mean, people just, they, I mean, it's just amazing.

I love this audience.

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Oh, you have a lot of puppets.

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