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Let's see.

There's a couple of things on the plate.

Pork belly prices, which is the first time I think I've used those three words in conjunction with each other ever in my broadcasting career.

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Oh.

Yeah.

I mean, I could go in deeper, but I don't think you need to hear about the pregnant sows.

I definitely don't want to talk about pregnant sows.

Okay, well then

I think I've given you enough information.

Yeah, yeah, okay.

It's debate day, Glenn.

I know it's debate day, and we're going to be on for the debate tonight.

Yes.

With Blaze TV coverage of debate 2023.

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Or.

But there'll be another debate night 2023 in a few weeks.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

This is the first time.

Well, I don't think so, actually.

I think the Blaze debate was the first time a large number of people saw all of the candidates except for Donald Trump.

And that was a very

good point out.

Thank you.

Have we done our homework on Doug Bergham yet?

I've done tons of homework on Doug Bergum.

No, there's something really disturbing about him, and I don't remember what it was, but I didn't really care at least.

The place is very cold.

Yeah.

And that's...

It wasn't that there's...

Oh, you know what?

It might have been that he didn't have weather stripping.

Yes, I think it was.

Slowly weather stripping.

It was definitely caulk-related.

Yeah, I remember.

I think it was.

I think it was.

Yeah.

Something big like that.

Anyway,

so we had that debate.

This one, I don't know.

I'm anxious to see.

I'm hoping that this is not your typical don't get anything out of that debate debate.

Yeah, I'm hoping that as well.

I think, you know, it's an interesting one in that obviously Trump's not going to be there.

But, you know, in some ways, maybe this is a it's a smart, it's the best way it could happen because you get to hear these people do their thing and see who can shine without Trump on stage.

You're going to have to take on Trump eventually if you are able to rise out of the pack.

Right now, there's no reason really, as Trump has made clear, for him to want to debate these guys because he's got a big lead.

But if it gets closer, I don't think there's any doubt he will debate somebody.

And, you know, you think about this debate stage with Donald Trump on it.

Let's say Ron DeSantis or Vivek Ramaswamy is in the middle of a great rant.

And,

Donald Trump is an expert at disrupting someone else's momentum.

He'll throw in a little smear, you know, a little knock, a little nickname, a little joke.

He'll make fun of them, and everyone laughs, and it breaks up their moment.

He won't be there tonight to do that.

So somebody could have a moment.

Yeah.

I mean, look, if you can't have a moment tonight, if you can't have a good performance tonight, you probably are not.

going to win the nomination.

You need to have a good night.

You don't have to have some

big

standout everyone's talking about.

I think DeSantis does.

I think DeSantis.

He has to have a good performance.

He has to have a great performance.

He has to be the guy that everybody at the end goes, yeah, yeah, it's either him or one other guy.

Yeah.

He can't just be one of the pack.

I think that's true.

I think he's got to be one of the stronger people out there.

He has to be one of two.

And I think, you know, we looked at that in our Iowa event where I would say that was basically what happened, right?

He was one one of the top, he wasn't, I don't know, people liked Vivek a lot in that event, but he was one of the better performers there.

But I mean, there's two different races you're looking at right now, Glenn.

One is the traditional race we all sort of think of, right?

Where you have a, you know, what, eight or nine person field.

Everyone's going to try to win this in a traditional contest.

And in that contest, Donald Trump is so far ahead.

You know,

it feels like a one-person contest right now.

But, of course,

you're in a race.

You're trying to win.

You want want to have a breakout moment.

You want to keep the money coming in.

All that stuff is playing out on stage.

The secondary contest that's going on is, hey, what if Donald Trump's in prison?

And what if that shakes up the race to the point of he just either has to drop out or people run away from him because he's actually literally in jail?

I'm not saying that's going to happen, but as we've said, you know, if if these people really do want to come after him and use the power of the the government to do it, which I think we all would agree they do, there's a good chance that this is how this ends up.

He may still win.

I mean, again, I think there's a good chance we're looking at the debate in like October with Joe Biden and Donald Trump in parallel jail cells with podiums behind them, and they're both in jail doing a debate together.

That could be the end of this.

If you are thinking of this as a secondary candidate, you're like Tim Scott, there's a rationale to say, look, go out out there, be solid, show that you can be a fallback candidate if the Trump thing falls apart.

If you're Nikki Haley, you don't need to go out there and try to make a spectacle of yourself to try to make up 50 points against Donald Trump tonight.

You need to go out there and show you're a solid candidate that if this thing falls apart, if Trump falls apart, whether it's by him making a terrible mistake or getting thrown in prison or whatever, you're there to be a viable alternative.

So both of those races are going on at the same time.

And Ron DeSantis DeSantis is sort of in the middle of that because he's, look, he's down by about 20 points in Iowa right now.

That's a lot, but it's not an insurmountable lead.

If he has good performance,

if he turns things around, he could, in a normal race, navigate those waters.

We've seen that happen before.

I mean, Howard Dean was up by how many points and wound up losing to John Carrie.

Yeah, I mean, it happens, right?

Someone can blow their campaign up.

There's been no real evidence that Donald Trump is able to shake his own voters in the Republican primary to lose a race like this.

But, like, I think you're looking at this and saying, if you're DeSantis, you have sort of both paths.

If Trump falls apart, you could be the next guy.

And you still have a chance to go after him.

A couple other people would make that argument, I think, as well.

But there's that secondary race of, look, if the government comes after Donald Trump and throws him in prison, who the hell knows what's going to happen?

You might as well be there to see where the piece is going to be.

I believe constitutionally he could serve from prison.

I think he can.

I think he would actually be released from prison to serve and then go back.

It's crazy to think about this.

I think you're right.

I think that's probably how this would play out.

But can you win a general election when you're in prison?

I think that would be quite a task.

It would be hard.

I think if they actually put him in prison, it will only help.

Even in the general.

Yeah.

See, I think it would, I don't know that he would even help.

Prison, I don't know that that would even help him in the primary, let alone the general.

The primary, I think seeing him persecuted helps him.

Seeing him actually unable to campaign and behind bars, I think would be another story.

But hey, I will admit, I could be completely wrong on that.

When it is persecution,

you become Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela.

Yeah, it might work out that way.

It could very well work out that way.

When it becomes persecution, and I think everybody knows.

Everybody knows.

I mean, even people who want to throw him in jail

know that it's kind of sketchy.

It's kind of sketchy.

Now, look, polling completely supports that among Republican voters.

Polling does not support that among general election voters.

Obviously, Democrats don't believe it, but independents don't believe it either.

Independents overwhelmingly think that he has committed serious crimes.

Now, look, that might change.

Maybe Donald Trump can come out.

That's the number.

Off the top of my head.

I mean, there's been several polls, but a lot of them show it in the 50s and 60s

to like and a bunch of people who are undecided.

So the margin is 20, 30 points in a lot of these polls on that question.

Now, that could change.

Look, Trump might be able to convince people when people see the charges and start following this more closely.

He could change those people.

It's not a foregone conclusion, but it's also not a foregone conclusion that's going to help him.

I mean, I don't know.

It's a weird thing to say, but like being behind bars makes campaigning difficult.

It's hard to do.

It might, I'm not in this country at this time, it may very well turn out in an unexpected way, but I don't know.

I think it's a very difficult thing to pull off in a general election.

And honestly, it might be hard to pull off

in a primary as well.

I mean, I think there's an argument to be made by some of these other candidates.

Hey, look, I know you like Donald Trump.

He's a good president.

He did things that we all like.

But

no one's charging me with a crime right now.

I'm not going to be behind bars.

I'm not going to have to deal with this.

Even though you might think it's unfair, we have to have a president who's who's able to do his job and not be constantly focused on, you know, what legal wranglings he's dealing with.

So here are the things that come to mind on that.

If I heard a candidate say that today, I would think

self-serving.

I think you're right.

I think some people would take it.

It's why these candidates aren't saying it.

Yeah.

And then the other thing I would think is,

you fool.

You think you're not going to get the same treatment?

But Donald Trump didn't get the same treatment in 2016.

He wasn't being thrown in prison in 2016.

No, but he eventually became a guy who was trying to be thrown in prison, but that's after he won and had a term and a whole second, remember, a second election where he was also not being charged with a crime.

This is new.

This is new even for Donald Trump.

This is the first time he's run for president with possibly being thrown in prison.

And so I think like it is completely true that yes, they will come for you eventually, but like it's another thing to be in the middle of them coming for you.

It's look, it's going to be hard.

We even look at this for money reasons.

The support for Donald, you know, one of his super PACs raised $15 million and then spent $30 million on attorneys.

Now, look, Donald Trump is a billionaire.

To me, if I'm Donald Trump and I'm not, but this is the time I'm spending my money.

Like, what else are you holding it on for?

To act, right?

He's supposed to go to do a fundraiser for Rudy Giuliani's legal defense where they hope to raise $100,000.

How could that possibly be worth his time?

Give Rudy Giuliani's lawyers as much money as they want.

Who cares?

You've got a billion, $10 billion.

Rudy Giuliani should be kept happy at all costs right now.

And I don't understand what the priority would be to try to raise money from your voters.

You're going to need to give you money for your campaign.

Knock these legal worries out.

Money is the least of his his problems, but it does seem to be the strategy to just try to raise this dollar by dollar and churn it out.

I don't know.

It seems to me to be the time that, like, if you got a large personal fortune, this is the time to invest it.

You know, he, I mean, maybe he's not taking it seriously, you know, as far as he's been able to survive these things so many times.

Every time a challenge has come up against him, he said, screw it.

I'm going to power through it and I'm going to win.

As you know, you've talked to him before about this.

He's sort of like a power of positive thinking type of guy.

People think of Trump as so negative, but he speaks things into existence.

Yes, he does.

And he's talked about that in previous books.

Like, this is his mindset.

Maybe he's just thinking, look, I'm going to push through this just like I pushed through everything else.

But

if what we always talk about and what you've covered so many times on your show is true, that there is a deep state that is coming after this guy with unending fury, there's a good chance they're going to come through this and punish him in a serious way.

And these legal ramifications may be real.

They've got 91 charges against him.

Are they going to go over 91?

Maybe they will.

But I certainly would be thinking about what happens if the alternative occurs and doing everything I could to make sure it doesn't.

Well, the one to watch tonight, I think there are two of them.

Everybody else is pretty much, I think if they have a really great night, if Nikki Haley has a great night, she'd be back maybe somewhat in the running.

I think people's minds are pretty solid.

I've never seen America like this.

Pretty solid on Donald Trump.

And then it really, in my opinion, it only comes down to two other people.

And that's Ron DeSantis and Ramaswamy.

Tonight, the two to watch are those two.

If somebody else comes out swinging and does something really surprising, it could change everything.

But Ramaswamy can leapfrog DeSantis tonight.

And DeSantis could put a lot of distance between

him and Ramaswamy if one of them connects with the audience and connects with probably the jaw of one of the other candidates.

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So the Washington Examiner came up with 15 questions that they think need to be asked tonight.

And I just want to read these to you.

You know how we've always said, oh, it's the most important election of all time.

I want you to listen to these questions because it really shows you how much trouble the country is in.

Total household debt reached a record of $17 trillion

this month, including a record of $1 trillion of credit card debt alone.

Some people are carrying credit card debt that carries with it 24 to 35%

interest rates.

How big of a threat to the economy are these levels of debt, and what will you as president do to address the issue?

The problem that I have with this question and all of these questions is the last sentence.

How big of a threat to the economy is this debt?

And what are you as president going to do about it?

It just becomes garbage and vomiting, political vomiting after that.

Yeah, because you just have an open-ended, I'm going to say something good about this topic.

Yeah.

You know, it's just, you're feeding the candidates.

I mean, I guess it's a way to direct them in a, to give them that part of

their stump speech.

The average home mortgage rate is up 7.5%,

the highest since 2000.

It locks many people into their homes with a much lower 2% to 3% interest rate, and it prevents many young people from buying their first homes.

What will you do to make the housing more affordable?

These two questions really need to just say this.

Household debt is at $17 trillion.

Credit card debt is at $1 trillion.

Mortgage rates are $7.5 and expected to go higher.

People are struggling.

What do you believe the cause of all of this is?

And if that person doesn't say, our horrid fiscal policy as a nation coupled with central banks all around the world and specifically the Fed, I have no time for you.

No time for you.

That's what I want to hear.

What is the problem?

Well, you know, the farm bill is coming up and we've got to do more for the farmers and the farm bill and the farm bill and farm bill and I'm going to put some more regulation on the banks and the banks are bad and banks, banks, banks, banks.

I want to hear what you believe the problem is.

Because if you can't identify the actual problem, you'll never solve it.

Never.

What's the problem?

College and universities cost too much money, won't deliver marketable skills.

What reforms would you bring to our nation's higher education system?

What reform?

I'd shut it down, shut it down.

That's what I would do.

Shut it down.

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Welcome to the program.

Over the weekend, Ezra Levant, the Rebel News founder, host of the Ezra Levant Show.

Rebel News is kind of like the Blaze in Canada.

They are really, really great reporters.

They do a lot of really great work.

And currently they're doing thetruthaboutmaui.com.

And Ezra was out in Maui, and he joins us now.

Hello, Ezra.

Hi, Glenn.

Thanks for having me.

You bet.

So tell me what you saw and what is...

happening.

I saw a report yesterday where reporters and other people were asking the mayor, how many children are missing and the mayor said i don't know and they're like come on of course you know

how many children what is happening

it's so extremely sad and um

i i want to make the comparison to 9-11.

obviously this was not an evil terrorist attack but the devastation on this small town called lahaina

which has about 12 000 people is disproportionate.

It's hundreds and hundreds of people were burnt alive.

And the place is stunned.

People are, well, let me give you an example.

I met someone who had a friend who refused to get a DNA sample because they're matching, that's one of the ways they're trying to identify these burnt bodies.

And this person said, no, no, no.

My loved one's going to come back any day now.

The story was told to me by someone else on the ground in Lahaina.

So they're taking DNA tests because they're identifying bodies.

There are sniffer dogs by police

from all across America who have flown to Maui.

And they're going through the burnt remains, but people are in denial.

They're from shock.

They're saying, no, no,

they'll come back alive.

It's almost like in 9-11 in New York then when people said, no, no, he'll come home.

He'll come home.

I know it.

And the pain and the sorrow is so deep.

But imagine hundreds and hundreds of people missing in a community that small.

There's no family that's left untouched.

And

when you understand the depth of the wound to that small community, other things start to make sense.

Let me give you an example.

I saw before I went over on Twitter some people saying, well, police are locking down the area.

They're not letting journalists in.

What are they covering up?

And that was one of the reasons i went out there i thought yeah that's odd why aren't they letting journalists in so i arrived myself and i and as i was in the taxi going to the hyne

there was indeed a police checkpoint and they pulled us over well glenn it's because

there's there's homes that they don't want to have looted and it it would be like a 9-11 again

a terrible comparison but it's one that seems to fit you wouldn't just allow anyone to go traipsing through ground zero when there's still recovery efforts going on.

Now, I managed, they said, show us proof you live there or we won't let you through.

Well, I was bringing with me a Starlink radio dish because a satellite dish because where we were going, cell phone service and internet still wasn't up for two weeks there to be knocked out.

So I showed the cop that I was bringing this dish in for people and he let me go through.

And

indeed, that was one of the

interesting things is that

imagine this terrible thing happened to the community, but no internet, no phones, nothing that runs on the internet, like credit card machines.

So any businesses, restaurants, whatever in the area all shut down.

And I talked to one husband and wife who said that they hadn't seen any help for days.

The first official

interaction they had was an airplane, they said, flying by with loudspeakers, telling them about closures and where to get help.

Like imagine a slow-moving airplane with loudspeakers sort of saying, do this, do that.

It was a stunning destruction of the community and then putting them in a kind of silence.

And in fact, when we brought the Starlink, we were staying in an apartment.

We gave people in the apartment complex the...

you know, the Wi-Fi password to the satellite.

And it was the first time they had access to news about what had happened to them.

And everything else had been word of mouth.

So, so, anyway, my point is, go ahead.

No, I was just going to say, we only have a couple more minutes left.

And I just want to know

that

there are, I saw your report over the weekend.

There's a lot of people that are now helping.

And I know they refused FEMA help, thank God.

But

the government of Hawaii is disturbing the governor saying we're just going to take this land and make it into, you know, memorial.

Then Joe Biden saying that we're going to build back better.

We're going to build better homes.

All the way to we didn't turn on the water.

We didn't turn off the electricity in time.

And we didn't blow the air horn.

Well, you know, the air siren is one thing, but you...

Are you telling me you don't have any emergency response?

There's no like Amber alert for everybody's phones in Hawaii.

You couldn't access that.

It doesn't make any sense.

None of it.

Well, and that's the thing is that

around

Maui, they have these poles with sirens on them, alarms, and they test them,

the residents told me, the first of every month.

And it's for tidal waves, it's for other catastrophes.

They didn't turn them on.

And the official response was, we didn't want people going to the fire because people would have thought it was a tsunami, the government said.

They would not have.

Well, I know, it's a crazy thing.

So they had these sirens that never went off.

And you're right about this Amber Alert System.

You might remember a while back there was a false alarm in Hawaii about an inbound missile.

Right.

And that panicked everybody.

So

it, and

you had terrible government failure that compounded everything.

And

then the reaction by the president, I think, shocked and hurt people.

His first comment was, no comment.

And that stung people.

We saw residents who had that word, no comment, and a huge banner on their house when the president came by.

People were giving the finger to the motorcade, our reporters saw.

And even when he was there, Joe Biden talked about himself and a little kitchen fire he had when he was younger.

He was tone deaf.

And I heard the FEMA guy on the radio when I was driving in Maui.

oh, and we've given $3 million.

And I thought, oh, my God, there are hundreds of houses burnt to a crisp.

There's probably, God forbid, up to 1,000 people that have been killed.

And

I just,

you know what people were saying is comparing the amount of help versus the amount of help that Ukraine got.

And this is a very Democrat voting place, but they were just,

this isn't even a partisan thing.

They felt so totally ignored, betrayed, and undone by their own government but Glenn the number one feeling is tragedy and loss and and grief and they haven't even in many cases come to terms with the scale of the damage and then yeah the weird things like the governor saying well we want to essentially expropriate the land for our own purposes now that feeds conspiracy theories I tell you,

the pain in that place, Glenn,

I just can't help but think of 9-11 because this was Maui's 9-11 in terms of death toll and failure of systems.

And this wound will take a lifetime to heal.

Ezra, I think that you and I are both like brothers from a different mother because I know you've raised with your audience an awful lot of money to help the people in Maui.

Mercury One is up to about a million and a half now that we have sent out.

And I just appreciate your heart and your reporting.

Thanks for being on with us.

Thank you, Melissa.

Thank you very much.

Let me play something.

You know, when he talks about the pain, I want to play something that

I saw last night.

And

this is just a regular person

that was angry with Biden's speech.

And I just want you to hear the depth of this guy.

Cut three, please.

It is

almost impossible to believe

that this guy, that this old man, this Walmart greeter, this fake installed president,

why the f is his wife with him wherever he goes?

We didn't hire this person.

I didn't hire you, Joe.

You're a traitor.

I know what you are.

I know what Kamala is.

I know what the Democratic Party is.

And I know that we have a constitutional crisis of epic proportion.

But hearing you talk about your house that you know had a little fire, you almost lost your cat in your Corvette.

There are children that were incinerated to ash, you fing old man.

You vile human being.

The only way you feel you're able to communicate and you have some kind of, you know, you're so out of touch with the common man, you don't even understand how to speak to them.

The only way you think you can establish commonality with them is to lie.

That the same thing happened to you, no matter what the tragedy is.

Your son wasn't killed in action, by the way.

Your house didn't burn down.

Your Your children weren't burned to death.

How dare you get up there and speak this way?

Your job is to go there and assuage them in a way that you talk to them about their loss.

That you can't imagine what it's like.

That you can't imagine what it's like never to find the bodies of the poor children that were sent home from schools that died alone

alone

in fear without their parents or a guardian.

That the most abhorrent thing happened.

You're a disgusting, despicable.

You're too old.

So, I think I need to see that.

I think he is very clear.

I saw this last night, and

what I pulled from it

was

your Corvette and your cat, while children

were incinerated,

incinerated alone by themselves

that's

true

and how we have a government it's not just him

the whole government seems really unresponsive to the people at all to say you gave oh we gave three million dollars this audience has given half that this audience has given half of that

what are you talking about?

You gave $3 million.

By the way, you started with 1.7.

But it's more than just money.

It's by just telling people the truth.

When the governor could not, or the mayor of Maui could not say how many kids are missing, you know, he knows the number.

We know there's,

what is it, 1,076 people that are missing, something like that.

We know the number.

Are you telling me we have no idea

if they're kids or not?

Of course you know that number.

Why won't you say it?

Are you trying to ease us into that number?

It's really manipulative and grotesque.

I wonder if this is going to be brought up.

I hope not at the debate because then everybody will give their usually fakey little, oh, I'm so upset kind of thing just so

they don't look like Joe Biden.

But I go back to what we were talking about when we were talking about tonight's debate.

What I hope we see.

What is the real problem in maui

what is the real problem it's not global warming it's not global warming it is a government that seems to lack the compassion for people

the compassion and honestly the fear of the people

which kept them more afraid of the global warming people

kept them more afraid of them to, we can't turn off the solar panels.

We can't turn off the electricity.

We can't arm the fire hydrants and put the water into the fire hydrants because water is more sacred than people.

All the way down to, you know, my Corvette and my cat.

And by the way, Joe, another thing.

The firefighters got there within 20 minutes of it starting fire.

They had it under control.

By the time they got there, they came in quickly and had it under control.

It was a small kitchen fire.

And you said you stood there and watched these heroes.

No, you didn't.

You were giving a speech at the time in Washington, D.C.

How were you possibly at home?

How did you see this?

My gosh.

So

the first thing, you know, when we talk about finances, I hope we talk about the Fed tonight because that is the root of our problem, our central bank and the corruption with our government and Fed.

What is the problem in Maui?

A government that does not care about the people.

It doesn't put people

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Larry Elder is not going to be on the stage.

Here's his statement.

Listen to this.

As you can see, I'm at LAX in Route 2, Milwaukee.

I was just informed by the RNC that I'm not qualifying for the debate.

Why?

Even though I exceeded the 40,000 individual donations required, even though I signed the pledge to support the eventual nominee, even though I submitted three polls where I was at least a 1%, I was informed that one of the polls is not eligible.

It's the Rasmussen poll, even though it was the most accurate poll in predicting that Donald Trump would win in 2016.

They say it is affiliated with Donald Trump and therefore it is not eligible.

And I said to Ronna McDaniel, the chairwoman of the RNC, it's not affiliated with me, she said any poll affiliated with any candidate is not eligible.

And no one told me that until just now.

So we're filing an emergency injunction to get me up there.

This is absolutely BS.

One of the candidates, by the way, offered a $20 gift certificate for a $1 donation.

That apparently is okay.

Another one offered a free air quotes country western concert for a a $1 donation.

That apparently is okay.

Another one offered a commission to prospective donors to get other prospective donors.

That apparently is okay.

But I did it the old-fashioned way, asking people to support me by going to larryelder.com, and that is not okay.

And now, all of a sudden, I'm not eligible.

It is designed, in my opinion, to make sure that Ron DeSantis is a nominee, anybody other than Trump.

This is BS.

I will see you in Milwaukee.

Out.

Larry Elder joins us now, host of the Larry Elder Show and 2024 GOP presidential candidate.

Larry, welcome to the program, sir.

Are you in Milwaukee?

Of course I'm in Milwaukee, and I'm going to be on that debate stage.

I predict it.

I'm not a betting man, but if I were, I would bet my house.

Larry Elder is going to be up there on that debate stage in some 12 hours from now.

Wow,

I hope you are right, Larry.

I hope you are on stage.

What is the message that you think needs to be there tonight?

Well, regarding the reason they're keeping me out, Glenn, I've met the 40,000 individual donor criterion.

I've met the

fact I've got to have 200 donors from 20 different states.

I've exceeded that.

The problem is the last one, which is I've got to have three national polls where Elder is at at least 1% among Republican and Republican-leaning voters.

I submitted three.

As I pointed out in that little video, they rejected one, the Rasmussen poll.

And they told me that it was, quote, affiliated with Donald Trump, close, quote, whatever the hell that means.

And I said, well, it's not affiliated with me.

And they said, any poll affiliated with any candidate is not usable.

I said, the same Rasmussen that you quote all the time on your Twitter feed, the same Rasmussen that was the most accurate in 2016.

And they said, yes.

And then after that, Glenn, we turned in another one where I'm above 1%.

So we turned in four.

The last one was turned in after the deadline, but I didn't realize they were going to reject one of the ones that I turned in.

So as far as I'm concerned, all the criteria have been met.

Moreover, my lawyer is the former chair of the Federal Elections Commission.

They 25 years ago put down the rule that sets forth the debate criteria.

And they say that the RNC or DNC can set forth their own criteria.

Once you do it, you have to follow it and apply it fairly to every single candidate.

So they're applying it to eight of them who are going to be up there, not Larry Elder, which means, in my lawyer's view, they're giving them an in-kind contribution of 120 minutes of free airtime.

And if you look at the cost of airtime on Fox News, multiplied times eight, that means that the RNC could be facing Glenn a fine of up to $100 million for giving an in-kind contribution.

And Fox News could also face a fine of $100 million by the FEC for giving an in-kind contribution.

We're holding a press conference in one half hour.

I'm laying all this out.

And if by 2 o'clock local time they have not determined that Larry Elder is up there, we're going to file that complaint with the FEC.

Well, I wish you the best of luck.

We'll be praying for you and hoping that you are up on the

podium today.

I mean, I think when the GOP selected their leadership here recently,

you know, they

signaled who they were.

And I don't have a lot of time for the GOP, quite honestly.

I think they are

becoming Democrats in in every way.

I mean, you know, the super delegates happened because they didn't trust the American people.

When Ronald Reagan was elected, all of a sudden the Democrats were like, we can't have just a regular Schmo get up there, somebody that we haven't selected.

And I really think the GOP is doing the same thing.

They're doing the same thing now.

Yeah, I think they are.

And as I pointed out in that little video, you got one guy that offered a $20 gift certificate for a $1 donation.

Another one offered a free Country Western concert for a $1 donation.

Another one gave commissions to people to go out and get other donors.

I didn't do any of that.

I did it the old-fashioned way, and I'm excluded, but those practices, which are corrupt, if not illegal, are okay.

It's outrageous.

And what I think, Lynn, is they don't like Larry Elder because I make them feel uncomfortable.

I talk about the lie that America is systemically racist, a lie that the Democrats have been using against Republicans time and time again.

I call them out on that.

I think the Republicans are weak in letting somebody like Al Sharpton criticize Donald Trump for referring to the Georgia officials as riggers.

Al Sharpton considered that to be a racist term.

This is the guy who once referred to the then black mayor of New York as an inward whore.

And here he is laying this down, and nobody from the RNC punched back hard.

I think I make them feel uncomfortable because I know the number one social problem in the country, Glenn, is not the epidemic of COVID, but the epidemic of fatherlessness.

70% of black kids enter the world without a father in the home, married to the mother, up from 25% back in 1965.

They don't want to hear about that because they're definitely afraid of being called racist.

Nothing scares a Republican establishment guy more than being called a racist by the left.

They run like scalded kittens.

And then we've got this absolute disaster known as K through 12 urban education, where just to pick one city, Baltimore, 13 public high schools in Baltimore.

I kid you not, 0% of the kids can do math at grade level.

They're all located in the inner city, and they don't like tough talk like that.

Geez.

Larry, one thing that DeSantis hasn't clearly answered, and I'd like to hear your answer,

is Ukraine.

What are your thoughts on Ukraine?

We've got two minutes.

We ought not be paying for this war.

We are tired, Americans are, of being taken advantage of.

We do the heavy lifting when it comes to the cost of the United Nations.

We do the heavy lifting when it comes to the World Bank, when it comes to the International Monetary Fund.

Our NATO partners are not pulling up the 2% of their GDP that they're supposed to.

They're the ones who are threatened by Ukraine far more than we are.

Why are we paying for it?

Secondly, Putin has already lost this war.

All these experts predicted that Ukraine would fold in a few days, if not a few weeks.

It didn't happen.

We're in the second year now.

Putin has lost 200,000 troops.

By American terms, that would be as if we lost 400,000.

There was an attempted coup for crying out loud.

His economy is in free fall.

They've lost about 20 generals on the battlefield, or they've disappeared.

He's already lost this war.

He's looking for an off-ramp.

We ought to be putting pressure on both sides to do just that and get us out of this thing.

Larry, best of luck.

I know you've got to run to your press conference, but I hope to see you on the stage tonight.

You are a welcome voice and a voice that should be heard by more.

Thank you.

I appreciate it, Glenn.

Tell people to go to LarryElder.com.

I've now incurred an unexpected legal expense, so I'm going to need the help.

LarryElder.com.

Thank you very much, Larry.

Appreciate it.

You got it.

It's crazy what is.

You know, as he was talking, I'm thinking to myself about the stupid questions that are coming from the debate.

And

the media, Fox included, are so far behind what's really going on.

We're on the verge of cryptocurrency.

We're on the verge of another

central bank digital currency.

Yeah, we're on the verge of a central bank digital currency.

We're on the verge of another COVID lockdown.

We're on the verge of possibly putting a former president in jail.

We have all these things that are so huge.

Digital currency from the Fed is not going to be discussed.

The Fed itself, not going to be discussed.

They'll talk about our spending, but they'll talk about it in the way of, I've got a, I'm going to put one penny down for every 100 pennies that are spent.

Shut up.

Just shut up.

And I'm just wondering if anyone is going to break through with the truth.

I think

that America on both sides is hungry

for somebody that is,

I don't know, young, dynamic, and different thinker.

And, you know, Ron DeSantis should have that.

He's not in my generation.

He's younger than me.

And he should have that.

I haven't seen that from him yet, but he should have that.

Ramaswamy has that.

We just need to see.

I mean, at least I do.

I need to see somebody who's not a politician anymore.

I'm so sick of them.

So sick of them.

Yeah, well, everyone's, it's like, you know, it's like lawyers.

No one likes them.

It's like, you get, well, every once in a while you need them, I guess, but most people don't like them.

What do you think, though, about

I would not be surprised if if Larry Elder winds up on the short list for Donald Trump VP pick

because he, you know, he does a lot of the things that Trump likes.

And again, I don't mean to undercut his message.

I know he's trying to become president.

So maybe his mind isn't there yet.

But people keep talking about Vivek, which is an interesting pick.

It certainly seems like they're aligned and there's a lot there.

Larry Elder, though, also aligned closely with Trump.

He's very good on television.

He knows an audience.

He's a fighter.

You know, he's the type of person where it's like Pence for Trump was this like understated

guy who was kind of quiet and soft and talked, you know, related to maybe the more religious part of the audience that Trump had weaknesses with at the time.

Where, you know, this is a type of period where like Donald Trump's going to be fighting back against legal challenges.

Like you want a guy like Larry Elder to go on television and just blast everybody.

Like he's good at it.

I don't know.

I think it's an interesting, it's an interesting guy.

I would not be surprised if he ends up on the list.

I would agree with you.

That's a good thought.

Because Larry is, and he's not, he wouldn't.

I think the problem with Vivek would be, by the way, can we just get this out, please?

Sure.

I'm always wrong on names, but I'm not wrong on this one because I've asked him.

It's Vivek.

Oh, yeah, it's like cake.

It's Vivek.

Everybody calls him Vivek or Vivek.

Yeah, it's Vivek.

It's Vivek like cake.

It's shocking that's how you remember it.

I'm stunned that you went to baked goods to remember it.

Shut up.

Shut up.

We're going to take a cake break.

Hang on just a second.

You know how you remember how to spell it?

Say the word break as well.

Cake.

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Huge.

I mean, you want me to just come out and say, do you want to prepare the audience for all this type of news?

Just in that 10-second break, Stu said, I have some huge breaking debate news.

And just by the way you said it.

You know it's big.

I know it's big.

Yes.

I know it's big.

Now, of course, if it's going to be big breaking news, we know something about someone showing up at a debate or not showing up at a debate or question marks.

We all know it's going to be related to that, and it is

Doug Bergham.

Well, at least started with the first letter that I thought.

Doug Bergum, you know, you may only know him by Bergamentum or Bergamania.

Bergamania 3 is my favorite.

Is your favorite?

Yeah.

But I didn't read or watch Bergamania 1.

Yeah.

So I don't know if I fully understand.

Yeah, you wouldn't understand.

I was just jumping in like that.

You can't just dip into number three.

But he is the governor of North Dakota.

He's in the debate.

That is who he is.

Okay.

He's in the debate, made the debate fair and square,

and then decided last night to play a game of pickup basketball.

No.

In the game of pickup basketball, he's apparently torn his Achilles.

Oh.

It is possible he will not be able to stand for the debate tonight.

So I don't know if they're going to this.

I mean, this is serious.

He He actually really hurt himself.

And torn Achilles is a serious injury.

Oh, that's serious.

So he may not be able to stand.

They may, he may not, I mean, there's some questions of whether he's going to be able to do it all at all.

I assume he will.

I wish him well and I and Burgamese.

I mean, look, it's the biggest moment of the guy's life, right?

I mean, he's going to be on stand.

Are you kidding me?

You're kidding me.

He sucks.

I feel bad for him.

He's the governor of which state again?

North Dakota.

Yeah.

North Dakota.

It doesn't.

I mean, you know.

There's a lot of presidential aspirations out of the Dakotas this year.

There was a lot of talk.

And I didn't see the Bergham side of it coming.

Kind of what it was.

I thought they went the other way, but no, it went the Bergham way.

Yeah.

And poor Doug has torn his Achilles.

I mean, I assume he's out for the season, but he may still be able to debate tonight.

We will see.

That does suck, though.

You got to be like, wait.

I've got the biggest moment of this guy's life.

And he's going out to drink a little

It strengthens my belief in God.

Really?

Yeah.

Because you're not a, I will say you have very little opinion on Doug Bergham, but you have some suspicions that you cannot define on Doug Bergam.

No, I cannot.

I cannot.

And I could.

Come here.

If I took 20 minutes, it's just not worth it.

I could.

It's just worth 20 minutes.

It's not worth 20 minutes.

No.

No.

You could do it in 20 minutes.

Easily.

I could probably do it.

I could probably do it.

If you finished the next five minutes, I could probably.

You could probably figure out why you don't you have suspicion while i'm off while i'm on the air i have some incentive to look it up while i'm off the air it's low incentive no incentive i could be with my kids i could be i could just i could just be in a room you know playing with my spittle out of my mouth yeah and that would be more important to me than Bergamania.

Bergamania.

Yeah.

I mean, look, if you look at this field, you've got eight people that are going to be supposedly in this debate pending Doug Bergham's Achilles.

So you got two at the very bottom that I think are essentially completely uninteresting to people, which is Doug Bergam and Asa Hutchinson.

No one cares.

And if Larry Elder got on the stage, people would, even though

he might not be as high in the polls either.

Yeah, well, people at least could like Larry Elder and he would be interesting in a debate.

Asa Hutchinson and Doug Bergum, I don't expect to be.

We will be surprised.

I'm shocked that Asa, after his performance at the Blaze

breakfast debate or whatever that thing was called, the summit,

I'm surprised he's even,

he even has, you know, that he's like, you know, I'm up for another punch in the face.

Yeah, it was not pretty.

It was not good.

I don't think, look, he made the debate good for him.

I mean, the first one, the standards are very low for this first debate.

As we pointed out, 1% is what you need to come up with.

And the right 1%.

Yeah, apparently.

In the right polls.

But he had 1% in plenty of polls at Asa Hutchinson.

And he barely got over the donor.

The donor one was harder for him to get to.

He had a very difficult time getting to the donor threshold, but he did get there in the last week.

So you got that.

At the top, you've obviously got DeSantis.

You got Ramaswamy.

You know,

and then you have that middle, which is Tim Scott and Nikki Haley.

The wild card here is Chris Christie, though, because everybody knows Chris Christie's not going to win this nomination, including Chris Christie.

Everybody, everybody knows it.

However,

I'm sure you do.

You know, many things that I don't know.

About Chris Christie.

A Chris Christie.

He's not going going to perform well tonight.

I would not be surprised if he performs poorly.

Yeah.

Well, I know it.

How do you know it?

I'm pumping the scent of fried chicken in tonight.

Okay.

And he's very distracted.

He'd be like, damn it, I smell chicken.

Where the hell is the chicken?

It wasn't in my green room.

What am I?

Less a man.

Somebody else has fried chicken and I didn't get fried chicken.

Where the hell is a fried chicken?

Yeah.

That's all he's going to be thinking of.

That is what he's going to be thinking of the entire time.

Yeah.

But like he's going to come out likely and do the MSNBC Trump routine, right?

And like that, there's his negatives are way off the charts.

Everybody in the party who's voting doesn't like him.

Yet

he is good at this thing.

He is.

And it's possible.

He's obviously he's destroyed Rubio's campaign at some level, although that's arguable.

But I mean, he did, he is pretty good at debating.

And so there could be fireworks from that as well.

I mean, I think it'll be an interesting night.

I'm excited.

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I am really excited about tonight,

especially now that Donald Trump is in the mix.

You haven't heard, Donald Trump is in the mix tonight, except he's going to be mixing it up with Tucker Carlson at the same time of the debate.

It's got to kill Fox and kill the RNC.

I mean, that's just, I mean, you've split your audience now in half.

Really?

I think so.

I mean, look, I like Tucker.

You know,

him having a big high-profile interview would be interesting.

I will watch it.

But, I mean, I've seen 100 interviews with Donald Trump and

Tucker's done a bunch recently, right?

Over the three or four of the past couple of years.

I'm not saying it's not interesting.

I do want to see it.

But I think we're getting something a little bit different when it comes to an actual debate.

An interview with a candidate is always interesting.

And obviously, Donald Trump is a counter program here.

Here's what I would do.

As a viewer, I would watch the debate.

I'd watch a few minutes of it.

And if it started getting hinted up,

gone.

I don't know.

I'm more interested in it than you are, I guess.

I would like to see what these candidates actually have to say.

Look, Donald Trump is the most famous person in the world.

We know what Donald Trump says about stuff.

We've heard a lot from him.

I would like to see him in a debate format having to go up against these people and seeing him push back and seeing how that goes.

But like, you know, I'm pretty clear on Donald Trump's policies at this point.

I know who he is.

He was president of the United States for four years, if people remember.

So these people are.

He was what?

Yeah.

If you know, these people are trying to be the alternative.

And I think there's more.

There's more drama to me associated, for example, on how Ron DeSantis does or a Vivek Ramaswamy.

You know, DeSantis has, I think 63% of Iowa voters are considering DeSantis.

I think the number for Ramaswamy is 34%.

He's got a massive opportunity tonight.

People don't even know who he is yet.

And we've seen him over the years

perform very, very well in these types of environments.

He's very smart.

He's very smart.

He's a very good communicator.

He's going to, he has major growth potential.

I want to see if he pulls that off.

You know, Chris Christie, I'm not interested in.

I'm not interested other than the fact of his Achilles tendon, Doug Bergham.

But, you know, there are things to see how this race is going to develop.

What we get from Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson may be very interesting, but it doesn't necessarily, I don't think, tell us much about what the next six months are going to look like.

I want to switch subject here, and I want to talk about something

that I am

investigating

myself and with several of my researchers.

Something that I find extraordinarily disturbing

and

something that

come hell or high water, you need to know about.

And

I'm going to leave it at that for now because I'm not deep enough into it.

But something came out in The Guardian yesterday that I think you need to hear.

I find this extraordinarily disturbing.

It is coming from the right.

And all of the people that are involved in this, I will make it a personal mission to expose them and what they are doing to this country.

There is an effort afoot on the right that is insidious trying to get us to break up and balkanize our country.

And one of the guys who is one of the leaders of it is a guy named Charles Haywood.

He is the creator of the Society for American

Civic Renewal.

And he has said on several occasions that he would serve as a warlord at the head of an armed patronage network.

Now,

you're going to dismiss some of these things.

because it'll be the first time most Americans will have heard about this.

Do not dismiss this.

And

I'm paying great attention to it and will expose all involved.

The founder and sponsor of a farwhart network of secretive, men-only, invitation-only fraternal lodges in the U.S.

is a former industrialist who frequently speculated about his future as a warlord after the collapse of America.

The federal and state tax company filings shown the Society for American Civic Renewal and its creator, Charles Haywood,

also have financial ties with the far-right Claremont Institute.

SACR's most recent IRS filing names Haywood as the national organization's principal officer.

Other filings identify three lodges in Idaho, in Boise, Cordelaine, and Moscow, and another in Dallas.

Hmm.

SACR's public-facing presence is confined to a slick one-page website advertising the organization's goal as a

civilizational renaissance

and a society with strong leadership committed to family in culture.

The site claims that it is raising accountable leaders to help build thriving communities and free citizens.

It condemns those who rule today, say they are corrupt and have corrupted the sinews of America, alienate men from family, community, and God, and promises to counter and conquer this poison.

This might sound okay

to some people right now going, yeah, well, that's what is, that that is happening.

Yeah, the problem is what they plan on doing once America has broken up.

Once they convince you that we can no longer be together as a nation and they balkanize us, their plan is not for

an American

renewal.

It is not about renewing our covenants with God, renewing our covenants that we took in our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, our Declaration of Independence.

This is

a combination of

Dugan, Alexander Dugan in Russia, and his fourth political theory,

some crazy whacked out

Christian

theory

and Nazism.

I'm convinced.

Schmittism, I think you would call it.

Schmidt was a philosopher in the 1920s who talked an awful lot like this.

And then when Hitler came to power, he was like, oh, this is great.

Yeah.

No, not great.

Not great.

It is absolutely destructive

and it will kill us.

And it is infiltrating

everything.

It is infiltrating everything.

And I am aware of many of the places that it is infiltrated.

There will be no hiding.

But it is in our churches.

It is in our media.

It is everywhere.

On his personal website, The Worthy House, where he styles himself a maximum leader, Hayward has written that the sale of his company made him rich beyond his dreams of avarice.

And

now,

as he has cleared

and said and been featured on Claremont Institute podcasts like the American Mine

that he is

now going to run something that have lodges.

He has incorporated his group SACR as a domestic run profit,

non-profit in Indiana.

And the IRS shows that he was approved as a non-profit fraternal organization.

So it's like some very, very creepy moose lodge,

I think.

And

they are making these secret lodges all around the country.

I don't even know.

Is this so you can,

did they do this, the lodge thing, so they could make everybody look like a conspiracy theorist when they talk, oh, is this the one with the, they wear the horns at night and howl at the moon in their lodge?

Or do they, or do they think that's not creepy?

That's just, I get, I don't know.

I mean, I have no idea why you would put lodges, secret lodges into your mix other than to be able to say, that's crazy.

One idea he's repeatedly raised on his website is that he might serve as a warlord at the head of a network defined as an organizing device in conditions where central authority has broken down.

in which the world's warlord's responsibility is short and long-term protection, military and otherwise, of those who recognize his authority and act in part at his behest.

The possibilities involving violence,

Haywood writes, include more or less open warfare with the federal government or some subset and remnant of it.

Do not take this lightly, please.

Just in the beginning of my, I took it lightly two months ago, and I have been doing research for two months, very careful research.

And you will understand why.

At some point, I will share all of it when we have everything buttoned down.

But I will tell you, this is significant.

And it is going

cloaked in many, many places.

And

if you ask any of the people that know about this and involved with this, they will give you the same bullcrap answer.

That's not what they're saying.

That's not what...

I've never heard him say that before.

I've never, that's not what's going on.

It is what's going on.

Be very

careful

on who you stand with and who you choose to join.

Please let the Spirit be your guide.

There are false prophets among us.

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No?

I know.

I would love to have you on, though.

It would be great.

It would be great to be able to get

scheduled to be doing something at that time, but I'm pretty sure it's not your schedule.

Well, the time hasn't even been established yet.

It's going to be after our coverage, but we don't know exactly when that's going to end.

So we'll just make sure we just do it at a time that you can participate.

It'd be great.

Have a great conversation.

I'm so booked up.

I'm so booked up after the coverage.

After the coverage?

Oh, my gosh.

What do you have going on?

Meetings.

Meetings.

It's going to be like 10, 11 o'clock at night.

It's a big meeting.

Big.

A big meeting?

Big meeting.

I can only do those meetings while you're on the air.

Really?

It's weird.

It's the only time the schedule meetings are.

It's the only time I can schedule them.

This is the great thing about YouTube, youtube.com slash Studos America.

I can just schedule that whenever I I want.

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Yeah, no.

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And you can come on.

You can do the same thing with the

timing.

With the timing.

The timing is everything.

Yeah, gosh.

Who do you have on the show tonight?

Oh, man, that sounds great.

I didn't even answer.

You don't need me.

No, but I mean, actually, I probably just said, you know, maybe I'll just stay and just wait for you.

I'll just talk by myself until you get there.

Yeah, I can't do it.

It'd be great to hear your perspective.

So I'll be doing the

post-debate coverage.

Stu apparently is good enough to do the post-post coverage.

Yes, well, I'll be doing the post as well and the pre.

I'm on all night tonight.

We're going long term.

It's debate night.

It's election season.

I'm firing up.

You've fired up.

Yeah, I am.

I'm happy that we're actually doing something.

We've been talking about this.

Hey, this poll that came out 16 years before the election is pretty interesting.

We've been doing that for a while.

I'm ready to actually see some fireworks.

Let's see these guys actually talk about stuff for once.

See, I am the opposite.

We have been the opposite for a couple of days now.

It's weird.

I'm the opposite.

I'm like, I still have a little bit of hope that the election could change things.

Now, I know that's ridiculous.

I know that an election's not going to change a damn thing,

but I still have like a little inkling of hope.

But when they all get up on stage tonight and I hear

all the same answers Charlie Brown's teacher would give, I lose that hope.

I can understand

how you feel.

Yeah.

And I and like, I think if I was

probably by debate three or four, I'll be in the same

tonight, tonight.

It's the first one.

Tonight is, and it could be big.

You know, Larry Elder, if he's on stage, I think that'll mix things up.

Sure.

And get to some truth.

I think with Vivek on, it's going to veer into a lot of truth.

And in any other scenario, Ronda Santis is a great candidate.

Oh, yeah, no, I know.

He's a great candidate.

He's got a tough candidate.

He's got a tough battle here for him.

He's got to do really well.

He has to win tonight.

He has to win.

If you were playing this like any other debate, you would, all the guns would be targeting him tonight.

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We're going to talk about that.

Also, some disturbing news coming from Revolver News, the people who have been really

relentless on January 6th and what they call the Fed surrection.

It is looking more and more like that as more and more comes out.

They broke a story here recently.

I saw it for the first time last night.

And,

gee,

I think

maybe we should really look at some of these pictures and see if we can find some of these people.

Because now he is revealing something that they've been working on, a fence cutter.

of January 6th.

And wow, there's a lot of suspicious things about this fence cutter.

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Darren Beattie's with us now.

He is Revolver News founder and editor.

He's also a former Duke University professor.

And I can't thank you enough for just being a pit bull with January 6th.

You guys have done such great work on it, Darren.

Thank you so much, and it's great to be back with you.

Thank you.

So

I saw this report.

It came out the 21st.

What day is it today?

The 23rd?

Yeah.

So two days ago, undercover cop cutting fences on January 6th.

New evidence intensifies suspicion surrounding key Fed surrection player.

Tell the story of what you have, and you only have have pictures and snapshots.

You don't have the official video yet because that's being held by a court for some reason.

But tell me what you have.

Well, in fact, we do have video depicting this individual cutting fencing designated in the restricted area around the Capitol.

So just to provide some context for this, there is a whole wide area around the Capitol that is usually perfectly fine to be on.

It was designated a restricted zone just for January 6th, and it was demarcated by fencing.

Now, what Revolver uncovered a long time ago in some of our earlier reporting is that there are a number of individuals very early on

cutting the fencing methodically.

And when I say very early on, I mean far before Trump was done speaking, before the crowd went over to the Capitol.

These are people who, for whatever reason, were hanging around the Capitol when there was no real reason to be there.

And furthermore, they were methodically, professionally, coolly cutting down the fencing that designates where the restricted zone is.

And the effect of this was basically to create one of American history's largest legal booby traps because later on, when the whole crowd went over to the Capitol, they were unwittingly walking into restricted zone for which they could be charged.

And many people actually were charged.

And this is an entirely separate story, but the Department of Justice actually used a misdemeanor trespassing charge to wrap up a Green Beret into a series of legal troubles that ultimately led to a felony conviction.

And they were doing this punitively because he video recorded and released evidence of the government trying to recruit him as an informant leading up to January 6th.

So there's a lot going on here, but the basic thing is

there were people strangely removing fencing before the crowd got there.

And hang on just a second.

I want to point out, when you say strangely, it is strange that these people are hanging out 20 minutes before anything is going on, and they're calmly sitting there.

One of the guys is, if I see this right, he's using a giant wire cutter.

And he is so dispassionate and calm.

He doesn't seem to be in fear of anything happening for him cutting down and rolling up this chain link fence.

Indeed.

And I encourage the audience to follow along the pieces right up at the top of Revolver.news.

We do indeed have video.

of this individual cutting the fencing so people can see for themselves what we're talking about we have the video of this particular individual there are several but this particular one who's kind of notorious who has never been identified who's never been indicted the government has exhibited zero interest in him but he was one of the key players methodically removing the fencing way before the crowd even got there creating this booby trap that allowed the rally to turn into a riot.

Now, there's been a recent development in the story of this individual, and that is,

this gets to the video that isn't public.

There is video of this guy cutting defenses.

What isn't public is there's an individual called Free State Will, who is a January 6th defendant and also a researcher, who's also been digging into this.

And he claims that there's video that is under seal, has a sensitivity designation, is in protective order of fence cutter Bulwark, who is this unidentified fence cutter, interacting with a known undercover cop.

And in fact, interacting with the known undercover cop such that the cop says, appreciate it, brother, when this fence cutter removes the fencing, allowing the undercover officer to move forward.

So this intensifies the suspicions that we initially raised where there's an undercover cop interacting with him, praising him for what he's doing.

And it just underscores the question, if an undercover cop was right with him, interacting with him, why wasn't he charged?

Why does he not appear anywhere in any of the most wanted lists next to people with trivial offenses?

He's playing a key role here, as I described, by removing the fencing, because that's one of the critical components to setting up the booby trap that ultimately led to this riot.

And now, as an additional piece of really interesting and suspicious information, I would say this individual, fence cutter Bulwark, is the second most wanted guy from my perspective in terms of identifying.

The number one most wanted guy, the number one most pressing mystery of the entire Fed surrection is the identity of this guy, scaffold commander, which we talked about in person when I was in studio.

Now,

here's the amazing thing.

There's a picture, and we have it on this Revolver News

piece.

There's a picture of this fence cutter guy hanging out way before

the riot happened, way before Trump was done speaking, before even the Proud Boys arrived at the initial breach site.

And the whole official narrative is everything kicked off with the Proud Boys when they went to this peace monument at the west side of the Capitol.

There's a photo.

of fence cutter bulwark just hanging out as early as 1231 p.m., 20 minutes before the breach kicked off, at the breach site and within feet of him also just hanging out casually, is none other than Scaffold Commander.

So it's pretty clear that there were a handful of key undercover, inauthentic actors here who each played a critical and coordinated role in creating this booby trap,

who have not been identified, who have not been indicted, and about whom the government has exhibited zero interest or even acknowledged.

Like we have the face of the fence cutter.

We have the face of the guy on scaffold, but the guy on scaffolding, didn't they take that information and say they were looking for him but couldn't find him?

Have they taken they haven't done that?

As far as I know, the government has not even acknowledged that scaffold commander.

How's that?

I've made a huge deal about him.

He's the number one guy.

Everyone knows about Ray Epps.

We've reported extensively about Ray Epps.

Scaffold Commander is just as egregious as Ray Epps.

He's not only like fence cutter Bulwark can be seen cutting fencing very early on, participating in the booby trap, but he plays a critical role in a second component of the trap, which is he's positioned, he's perched way on top of the scaffold with a bullhorn, telling people to move forward, move forward, move forward.

So you have people who had just finished hearing Trump's speech.

They move over to the Capitol.

They're not aware that they're trespassing because people like this fence cutter cut all the fencing, indicating that it was a restricted area.

And then you have an authoritative voice continuously booming from on high, saying, move forward, we need your help, move forward.

Is there a medical emergency?

What's going on?

So the crowd moves forward.

And then when people started breaking in the windows and going into the Capitol, scaffold commander was saying, go in, go into the Capitol, move into the Capitol, fill up the Capitol.

So he was a key instigator, not only cutting fences, but more importantly and critically, perching himself up on the scaffold, telling people to move forward and then go into the Capitol.

And this is a guy, again, just like fence cutter Bulwark.

Not only has he not been indicted, he has not been identified.

And I think these two individuals, which amazingly, we have a photo of them sitting within feet of each other way before anyone was there, just happened to be coincidentally perched right at that initial and decisive breach spot.

These two guys need to be identified.

I've really spent a lot of time and resources trying to identify them with no success.

I think this recent video, if it comes out, could be helpful indicating exchange between Fence Cutter Bulwark and the undercover officer.

As for Scaffold Commander, again, he's on this piece at Revolver.news and he's in our classic piece doing a deep dive on all of these critical people who are pre-positioned before

the Proud Boys got there.

I even ran facial recognition on Scaffold Commander.

No success.

I'm very convinced.

that if either scaffold commander or fence cutter bulwark were simply identified, it would be the biggest scandal in the country and definitively confirm that January 6th was a Fed surrection in the darkest sense of the imagination.

Do you have anybody on the hill in the weaponization of government looking into this?

No, not as far as I know in the weaponization of government.

And it's really unfortunate.

It's unfortunate that the GOP generally hasn't dedicated some resources into doing this because again,

we've come up to the brink.

We've changed the national conversation.

We've shown these people, but we kind of need help getting that next, that last step to make everything definitive of just saying, who are these guys?

That's all we need to do.

It's simply a matter of identification.

And in this age, of ubiquitous surveillance, it simply boggles the mind that these key people can't be identified.

And it's one thing for the government not to be interested, because I think we can guess why, but for the GOP not to really be interested, because the whole purpose of this Fed surrection narrative is to justify the weaponization of the government against the GOP and its, more importantly, against its constituents.

Do you think we're going to find out the answer?

That's hard to to say.

That's hard to say.

I'm not going to stop.

I mean, it's become kind of a white whale issue for me.

I'm not, you know, overly obsessed by it, but it's just I've gotten so far and this is like one of the last steps.

There's the pipe bomb issue and we're very close on that too.

But as far as the January 6th, the

participants, like Ray Heps, people know who that is.

These people, people don't know who they are.

And all we need to do is find out who they are.

And I'm very confident that the identification alone will tell us all we need to know and definitively about what really happened on January 6th.

Can you give me a hint on the preview of the pipe bombing information that you're close to?

Well, there's been a major development since we last talked and that is the public face of the pipe bomb investigation, the guy running it for the FBI who ended up retiring and working in accounting, he strangely volunteered himself to the Judiciary Committee and basically confirmed that all of the things we've been reporting on at Revolver were entirely valid and that the entire investigation is really bizarre.

He was asked whether the FBI used geofencing technology to identify this alleged pipe bomber, because we know they've used geofencing to identify

and charge other J-Sixers.

And he got very uncomfortable, according to multiple people

who were physically present, personally present.

He got physically uncomfortable.

His body language got really kind of fidgety.

And he admitted that, yes, they did try to use geofencing, but the telecom companies came back to him, and they said, for this specific request,

The data is corrupted and we can't give you that information.

And he had no innocent explanation for that other than to plead with the Judiciary Committee not to engage in conspiracy theories.

And that was one of the many revelations there.

And so this is an ongoing thing.

That's a major development.

There's more going on there.

And I think it's very clear that

this is a cover-up operation.

They found out who it actually was, the pipe bomber, in my view.

And the identity of the pipe bomber was extremely embarrassing to the government.

And they've been covering it up.

That's my opinion of what happened.

But this individual basically confirmed that all of these things that don't add up, that they indeed don't add up, and he had no explanation for it other than to beg us not to engage in, quote, conspiracy theories.

Wow.

Darren, thank you.

Again, you're a patriot for doing all of this yeoman's work.

I mean,

it's got to keep you up at night, be frustrating, and you just won't give up, and I appreciate it.

Thank you.

Thank you so much, Glenn.

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Hey,

we've got a lot of property that's got to go right now.

If you're looking for

property, really good property, probably in a very good

neighborhood in Belarus,

we are

emptying out another embassy.

The U.S.

and our president has ordered Americans in Belarus to depart immediately.

It seems like maybe that message should have been sent a couple years ago.

You think?

Yeah.

You think?

Yeah.

Might have been, but apparently Belarus,

officially not a party in the war in Ukraine.

No.

No.

Not at all.

No.

No.

No.

There's no relationship between them and Russia whatsoever.

No, but we're now telling Americans, run for your lives.

And I suggest you do because I saw what happened in Afghanistan when we closed that embassy.

Things go wrong.

Things go bad.

You're not going to have much to do.

Right.

It's going to be ugly.

Right.

No.

Unless Glenn comes to save you.

Maybe the radio host whose dad was a baker and he used to dress up as a marshmallow will come save you.

That's your hope.

Good luck, everybody.

It's so ridiculous.

Yeah, and the odds of us being able to pull that off a second time

probably long.

Yeah.

I think evacuating before the fire

starts coming, I would say, is probably.

You know, I would just like to say wherever you are,

you should come home.

You should come home.

You know, even Canada is a little sketchy right now,

but so are we.

So where to go?

Now,

some bad news.

I had some good.

economic news for the United States.

How good.

Real estate we could sell and maybe pay off a little bit of our debt.

Bad news is Second American has now tested positive for the new highly mutated BA.286 COVID variant.

Oh, catchy.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, they've got that name for it, you know.

They have Eris.

Eris.

Yeah.

Did a little more digging on that.

Oh, yeah.

This is the new, this is the new COVID variant, Eris.

Eris.

Now,

I don't know about you, but I don't know who's in charge of, like, for instance, at the National Weather Service, who picks the name of the next?

I've personally enjoyed Hillary myself.

I have enjoyed that in all of the memes.

And did you notice, by the way, that it's not spelled like Hillary Clinton.

Instead, it's spelled like our own Hillary Kennedy with one L.

Really?

Targeting the right again.

Bias and conspiracy once again hitting.

Thank you for pointing that out, Stu.

So I don't know who chose Eris,

but that's the name for EG.5, the COVID variant that will upend society, according to the mainstream media.

Now, it is a Greek word.

And in the past, the naming scheme has used the Greek alphabet, variants like delta, which the Greek is D, Omicron, which is Greek O,

but Eris is not the Greek word for E.

E is epsilon.

Epsilon, yeah.

Correct.

So why not epsilon?

Why would they change it to Eris?

Well, they had an Epsilon variant at one point.

So they've already used it.

So

they've used it already.

Yeah.

So now they're going to another E.

Huh.

I don't know.

Now, I no longer believe in coincidence, especially things like this.

I think these people are so arrogant and so out of control.

They love to tell you.

They love it.

Love it.

And it's a little inside joke between them.

You think they're going to see this one?

No accidents in the story of life, especially when it comes to words and language.

Eris is the Greek word for strife and discord, as I told you yesterday.

But it's more than that.

It is the personification of strife and discord.

In other words, the ancient Greeks made it into a goddess, a personification of strife and discord.

The Greek goddess Eris was devoted to the causes of evil.

She personified upheaval.

She radiated pain and hatred.

Her mission was to disrupt, to divide, divide, and shove people into fights.

She's the counterforce of harmonia, which translates to harmony.

She is the disruptor of harmony.

She was called the daughter of the night.

Darkness is the terrain of evil.

It is Eris, the ancient god, that now we have named this particular strain of COVID after.

She served as the basis for the witch in Sleeping Beauty, remember?

Melisophant,

which, by the way, means causing or inspiring evil.

So

let me just say,

Eris, the name of COVID,

can't seem to connect anything with light to it.

It's all division, darkness.

It's

evil, division, disruption,

things like that.

Things like that.

So I'm glad to see that E is no longer Epsilon.

This is the

Greek god Eris.

Now, in theory, they could say, well, we believe this variant will be chaotic and it will be destructive and it will be bad for people.

So we named it after a bad figure, right?

They couldn't.

Yeah, they could say that.

Yeah.

But I don't understand.

Do we have an explanation as to why they've changed the naming?

tradition here.

No.

No.

No one knows?

No.

There's got to be somebody who knows.

There has to be somebody who knows.

Believe me, there's somebody who really knows.

We're not those people.

And we're not going to get in with those people.

By the way, another update.

This one comes from Red State.

Yesterday, I told you about the C40 Cities Climate Leadership Group.

This is, you know, a globalist enterprise.

And it's happening to 14 cities here in the United States.

And they have ambitious targets.

Now, these...

These are not their stated goals.

These are just stated targets.

Oh, good, good.

Okay.

You never learn anything from someone's target.

No.

You only learn it from their policy goals.

So policy goals.

If they say this is what we want to accomplish and this would be a great way of doing it, that's not notable.

Right.

What's notable is only when they put an official policy paper in.

Correct.

Just because I say I'm going to rob you blind.

And I'm the person putting in the burglar alarms.

I might be saying that, but that's not my goal.

My goal is to put the burglar alarm in.

Right.

Hello?

Obviously.

Okay.

So anyway, their ambitious targets

to give people in 14 cities here in America to give up meat, dairy, private car ownership, and almost all flights.

And that is just to, you know, save the world from really bad temperature.

It's really very, very sick.

Very, very sick.

So, you know,

two of the cities, Houston and Austin, are in Texas.

Go ahead, try to give people to get up, give up their meat.

Go.

No, go do it.

Yes, go do it.

Uh, the private car ownership, that's going to be interesting.

And almost all flights, and what they're saying is it'll be short-haul flights.

Okay, you can take a long-haul flight.

So, in other words, you can go LA to New York, but going from LA to,

I don't know, San Francisco, LA to Vegas, LA to anywhere in the red states, not going to happen.

Not going to happen.

You're going to have to, you get to Los Angeles and then you drive.

Well, you can't drive because you won't have car ownership either.

But here is the update.

This organization known as the C40 Cities Climate Leadership Group

has their target of zero kilograms of dairy, zero kilograms of meat consumption a year, three new clothing items per person per year, and zero private vehicles owned.

Oh, and

one short-haul return flight, less than 1,500 kilometers, every three years.

You can take one of those.

Now, we told you yesterday that Bloomberg is really heading it, and the cities Austin, Boston, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, Miami, New Orleans, New York City, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Portland, San Francisco, Washington, D.C., and Seattle.

Major funders and partners.

Now, this is going to come as a surprise.

Here's the new information.

They include

George Soros and the Open Society Foundation

and the Clinton Foundation and the World Bank.

So you got that going on in 14 of your cities.

And again, those cities

are,

do you live in any of these?

Austin, Boston, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, Miami, New Orleans, New York City, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Portland, San Francisco, Washington, D.C., and Seattle.

Now, listen to this.

Seattle, Washington, D.C., San Francisco, Portland, Philadelphia, New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago.

All of those cities are on fire right now.

And they are taking money from from people that are going to try to convince the citizens there to give up milk, dairy,

meat,

your car, and clothing.

Hmm.

You'd think those cities would have a bigger priority on the horizon than that.

But apparently this is the biggest because, you know, the earth is dying.

Well, it's just a suggestion.

And it's just a suggestion.

It's just a suggestion.

A suggested recommendation/slash requirement.

Yeah.

Punishable.

And by the way,

and by the way, Stu, you know, I installed that burglar alarm in your house.

When are you and Lisa and the family out?

Do you have a time where you're all out for maybe about 45 minutes to an hour and a half?

I have no qualms of telling you this, of course,

because you have not released a policy paper

in my home.

I have a stated,

wait a minute, wait a minute, what is it?

I have an ambitious target to steal things from my to rob you blind.

Right.

But that's not a goal of mine.

Come over anytime.

We'll leave.

We'll leave to get out of your way.

Oh, so you're going to have to go.

Because you have not released a white paper, right?

No.

That states that you're going to rip me off and how you're going to sell it.

Exactly.

How you're going to get what eBay account you're going to use to resell it.

I'm not going to do it.

You haven't said that.

Well.

So I don't care at all.

I shouldn't even notice that you've corrected that.

Correct.

And if you're living in one of these 14 U.S.

cities, don't worry about the climate leadership group, the C40 cities climate leadership.

They have ambitious targets, but they don't have any goals.

What do you conspiracy theorists?

Imagine what the media would do with, like, you know, I don't know.

The proud boys have an ambitious target for all white people to be in the United States and no one of color.

Imagine they said, which they haven't done, by the way, but imagine if they had said that and that came out and it was, especially if it was tied to a major politician who was supporting their efforts.

Like if Donald Trump was like, yeah,

I endorse these guys and then they had an ambitious target, quote unquote, to

of white supremacy.

And they had, would that be reported?

Do you think two separate billionaires that the Clintons aren't billionaires yet, are they?

No.

You have two separate billionaires and then the Clinton Foundation.

And they're funding all of it.

Can you imagine if we just said, you know, in these 40 cities, we're going to be all coal-fire plants.

All coal-fire.

Yeah.

That's all the electricity we're going to use.

And we want everyone to have an SUV.

And

only thing you can eat, no greens, just meat.

I mean, I would live there.

I would live there, quite honestly.

You'd always have power.

You'd always have transportation and you'd always have food.

Yeah.

I mean, imagine that.

What would they say?

What would they say?

And this?

Nothing.

Nothing.

You're conspiracy theorists for noticing it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I'll see you tonight around 8.30.

Yeah, sure.

Whatever.

Just let me know.

Leave your safes open.

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so the washington examiner put together 15 questions for the first republican debate um and they they are as follows just listen to these questions and i think you could go much deeper uh and more important questions than these but um try this on for size total household debt reached a record 17 trillion this month including a record $1 trillion of credit card debt alone.

How big of a threat to the economy are these levels of debt?

The average home mortgage rate is up 7.5%, the highest since 2000.

This locks many people into their homes with much lower 2% to 3% rates, and it prevents many young people from buying their first homes.

Colleges and universities cost too much money and don't deliver marketable skills.

What will you do to reform it?

The rule of law.

Biden's Justice Department has targeted Catholic churches and pro-life activists for surveillance, infiltration, and arrest.

What will you do to end the weaponization of federal law enforcement?

Retail theft is soaring across the country, especially in cities controlled by the Democratic prosecutors.

What will you do to restore the rule of law to retail outlets so shoppers can go into stores without facing the risk of finding themselves among robbers or having all the merchandise under lock and key?

More than 7 million migrants have been caught illegally crossing the border since Biden became president.

He's released more than 2 million of them into the country.

Democratic mayors and governors from around the country have declared states of emergency to cope with this flood.

What will you do to secure a law and order on the border?

Family, what's the biggest threat facing families today?

Do you support a federal ban on abortion?

This summer, the Food and Drug Administration approved the first over-the-counter birth control.

Do you support this decision?

And do you believe more birth control methods should be made available without a doctor's prescription?

The environment, the death toll from Maui, but we have also seen the fires on the West Coast.

What will you do to make sure that the federal land is better managed so wildfires don't happen like this?

Biden has mandated two-thirds of cars must be electric vehicles by 2032.

What will you do to ensure that people are free to buy the cars they want?

And then energy: will you bring nuclear power back?

All of these

and so much more.