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oh hello stu glenn how are you well i'm good i i'm still i'm a little dismayed uh at the reaction of some of these white supremacists that are uh having a problem with the community hero award given to the the nuns of Perpetual Whatever.

Right.

That was.

Yes, I do know.

Some have described them as an anti-Catholic.

No.

When they had the word nun right in their title.

Right.

So I don't know how they're getting that, but maybe, you know what?

Maybe it's the stripteases done using the stripper pole cross with a fake Jesus hanging there as they're sexually driving.

Some might say that's a little over the line.

A little over the line.

There are some people who do describe it that way.

Right.

A little over the line.

Now, one of those who says, yeah, a little over the line is Major League Baseball pitcher Blake, is it Trinan?

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T-R-E-I,

N-E-N, Trenan.

Los Angeles Dollars, Dodgers.

Yeah, there you go.

He issued a strong statement.

Now, he's playing for the Dodgers.

Same team, in case you're following along at home and you got lost.

He said, I understand that playing baseball is a privilege and not a right.

My convictions in Jesus Christ will always come first.

Since I've been with the Dodgers, they have been at the forefront of supporting a wide variety of groups.

However, inviting the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence to perform disenfranchises a large community and promotes hate of Christians and people of faith.

This single event alienates the fans and supporters of the Dodgers, Major League Baseball, and professional sports.

People like baseball for its entertainment value and competition.

The fans don't want propaganda or politics forced forced on them.

Amen.

Amen.

That's not a high bar to jump over.

The debacle with Bud Light and Target should be a warning to companies and professional sports to stay true to their brand and leave propaganda and politics off the field.

He said, I believe in Jesus Christ, that he died on the cross for my sins.

I believe the word of God is true.

And in Galatians 6, 7, it says, listen to this, do not be deceived.

God cannot be mocked.

A man reaps what he sows.

Oh my gosh.

He's calling for violence.

He is.

He is calling for lightning bolts to come down.

This group openly mocks Jesus Christ, the cornerstone of my faith.

And I want to make it clear that I do not agree nor support the decision of the Dodgers to honor the sisters of perpetual indulgence.

But as for me and my house,

we will serve the Lord.

I think that's a great statement.

Now, somebody else has come out.

This is the pitcher Trevor Williams, Washington Nationals.

He said he's Catholic, and he said Major League Baseball game is a place where people from all walks of life should feel welcomed, something I greatly respect and support.

The purpose of different theme nights hosted by the organization, including Pride Night, bringing people in.

and making them feel at home.

To invite and honor a group that makes a blatant and deeply offensive mockery of my religion and the religion of over 4 million people in Los Angeles County alone undermines the values of respect and inclusivity that should be held up by any organization.

I believe it's essential for the Dodgers to reconsider their association with this group, to strive to create an inclusive environment that does not demean or disrespect the religious belief of any fan or employee.

I also encourage my fellow Catholics to reconsider their support of an organization that allows this type of mockery of its fans to occur.

That's huge.

Yeah,

again, I think the line is important here, which is,

I don't think anyone would say these people can't buy tickets to the game.

They can.

No.

I don't think anyone would even say, I mean, there may be a controversy if they were to put their, flash their name on the board that said, you know, because they bought a group of tickets, right?

Like,

hey, here is the seventh grade middle school class from Thompson Elementary and the people who are gyrating in front of the cross.

Like, I don't think that would be something people would love, but probably would be something that most people ignored.

They're honoring them with a community hero award.

They are honoring them as if they're like pillars of the community.

This is, it is just a by the game.

They're not just attending the game.

Correct.

They've gone much, much farther than that.

Correct.

I mean, and, you know, again,

if this was Islam, you could

not

do.

Let's start

a sisterhood of Mohammed.

You know what?

Actually, I'd rather live.

So no.

See, point made.

Exactly.

You cannot do that.

Christians, fair.

Catholics, fair.

Baptists, fair.

Mormons, fair.

That is wrong.

That is wrong.

And look, I don't want to be the religion that is associated with extreme members that will kill you if you mock it.

No, no.

I don't want to be that.

No, but what I would like to be, I would like some fair treatment here.

Yes.

Yes.

And we like that.

So now Clayton Kershaw, three-time Cy Young Award winner, said, quote, I don't agree with making fun of other people's religion.

It has nothing to do with anything other than that.

I just don't think that no matter what religion you are, you should make fun of someone else's religion.

So that's

something that I definitely do not agree with.

As my team and my wife and different people that I respect, we talked a lot about the right response to this.

It's never an easy thing because it felt like it elicited a response.

For us, we felt the best thing to do to respond was making a statement,

instead of making a statement or condemning,

would just instead to try to show what we do support as opposed to maybe what we don't.

So we're going to have a Christian Faith Day.

That's our response.

We felt like that was the best decision.

It has nothing to do with the LGBTQ community or Pride or anything like that.

This is simply a group that was making fun of a religion that I don't agree with.

Now,

I, you know, you have the right to make fun of religion.

I just said that.

However, you didn't see me outside picketing the Broadway show,

Book of Mormon.

Okay.

You have a right.

In fact, I will fight for the right for those people to be able to produce that Broadway show.

Okay, if somebody was boycotting and trying to get it to shut down,

I would stand with the show.

I wouldn't like it.

But you know the one thing that we have stopped saying that in my father's generation, I heard from my dad and everybody else's dad growing up, and I don't hear it anymore.

And we all need to start saying it again.

My father used to always say,

I so disagree with that guy.

He's everything he says is wrong, in my opinion.

But

I will fight to the death for his right to say it.

That's what we're missing.

And, you know, there's a, I mean, well, let me give you one more baseball story.

This one comes from the Toronto Blue Jays.

America's team.

No, Canada's team.

And Anthony Bass should have known that.

He shared

content

on his social media.

And let's see.

It was.

Some influencer.

Yeah.

A video last week.

Miller contended that Christians should boycott businesses such as Target and Bud Light.

He had been, he just passed on a video.

Yeah, and it was like, you know,

it mentioned the word the enemy, you know, like the enemy is strong and we must stand up.

And

people got very upset about that.

So he has apologized.

He has apologized now.

He forgot, oh, I live in Canada.

I live in Canada.

He said that his post had hurt the Pride community, which includes some of his friends and relatives.

I apologize to my teammates and that I will be using the Blue Jays' resources to better educate myself.

Nothing better of an education, there's never been a better education source than the Toronto Blue Blue Jays.

Resources.

Yeah.

Yes.

Because they are just

a purpose.

It's great.

Okay.

So

he's apologizing.

You've got three people who stood up.

Now,

they haven't been attacked yet, so I don't know if they're going to continue to stand up, but I don't know what Anthony Bass, I don't know what or Bass, what his problem or what his faith is, if he has faith.

But I'm telling you, historically speaking, the only ones that really stand up are people of faith.

And that's why they are trying to take God

down.

If you take God down, you don't have to worry about somebody who believes their first citizenship to the kingdom of God is more important than their second citizenship and certainly more important than their job or anything else.

When your soul is at stake, you tend to stand up and our souls are at stake.

So are we standing up?

Here's why,

and this is going to come to you, somebody paid for this study.

Okay, then this is going to come as a shock to you.

But there's a new study out of the University of Bern in Switzerland, and it had nothing to do with skiing.

They found that those who take part in far-left activism

are more likely to exhibit narcissistic personality traits and psychopathic tendencies.

Now this is kind of interesting.

The researchers found that many activists do not believe in what they purport to stand for and are simply using the cause to prop up their own perceived moral superiority and social standing.

What was that?

Now this, you're not going to see this study anywhere.

Anywhere.

The study argues that activism for the far left is used as a vehicle to satisfy the individual's own ego-focused needs instead of actually aiming at social justice and equality.

Sounds reasonable to me, but let me take it a step further.

Let me talk to you a little bit about the court system and all of these people

that are judges and all of the judges in Washington

that seem to fold all the time.

And John Roberts folds all the time.

Do you know why?

Who are these people?

Let me go back to school.

You knew these kinds of people, okay?

The ones that made it to the Supreme Court.

You knew them as kids.

What were they like?

They were always the teacher's favorite.

They were always the principal's favorite.

They were everybody's favorite.

They were the one in their family.

that they were most likely the favorite because they always worked hard and did the right thing.

And gosh, Johnny just got another gold star.

Well, he's got an incredible GPA.

He's got

quite a future in front of him.

Did you hear?

He just got into Yale law.

Full boat,

what do you call it?

Ride scholarship.

He's great.

Don't we just love him?

Look at, did you see him in debate class?

Look at how he's winning.

Boy, he has a bright future.

Whoa, he's a Supreme Court justice.

We love this guy.

Their whole life,

they have been trained to go, or

when you throw a yellow star their way or a gold star.

You throw a gold star at them.

They're like,

They love that.

And

the right doesn't get mad at them.

The left owns all of the, all of the prestigious awards.

Think about, think about,

what was her name?

Amy Coney Browning.

Amy Coney Barrett?

Barrett.

How many, how many, sorry, I know an Amy Browning.

Amy Coney Barrett.

How many children does she have?

Like 14?

Several, yes.

I don't know the exact number.

How are children going to be treated when they get to college?

Are they going to be just welcomed into the Yale Law School or Harvard and they're going to be like, oh, we got to have them?

At one point, I think that would have been true.

Now, I don't think so.

No.

No.

Because I think back in the day, the Ivy League School, even if it was a kid of a conservative justice would be honored to have them there and we're so hungry we as conservatives are also like or or or they give us one little fish and we're like we love them we love them they're on our side or

okay

they get jack from the left they get hate from the left death threats from the left And we're like, oh, you're good.

But that's not enough to motivate them.

They want to make sure their kids go to the best schools.

They want to be popular.

They are used to being popular.

They were the popular ones in school.

We have to make it uncomfortable.

We have to make sure that we let them know.

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Wow, I need

Wow, this is really interesting.

The study in Bern they made sure to note involvement in violent political activism is not solely attributable to political orientation, but rather to personality traits manifesting in individuals on the radical left and right of the political spectrum.

But it seems that the

narcissists tend to gravitate towards whichever side seems to be more opportune to give them a specific, special situation.

The pair have completed a number of studies on the left-wing activism, including one which argued that those who took part in LGBTQ protests were more likely to exhibit pathological narcissism, which is described as exaggerated sense of uniqueness, immodesty, and a desire for high praise by others.

They pointed out also

exploitiveness,

the example, I can make anyone believe anything I want them to do, is a major draw because it gives the people feelings of superiority.

If you are, you know, they're all like, God, these guys, they just, they're selling out, they just want to be popular.

Yeah, no, to be on our side,

you know this, becomes

very unpopular very quickly to be on the side of what we deem as correct and to be on the side of eternal truth is not popular doesn't give you a feeling of superiority

but this is why our kids are being roped into all of this stuff because imagine a teenager all they want is to be popular i just want to be popular can i just be left alone Can I not be the misfit on the island of misfit toys?

All you have to do sign up to be transgender today

sign up to be gay hey girls have you ever kissed a girl you'll be popular

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I want to talk to you just if you're having trouble keeping up.

Let me just tell you about the successful boycotts that, for the first time in my life, the right is boycotting things and it is working.

For instance, Bud Light,

they have been under a boycott really since April 1st with Dylan Mulvaney.

The sales of Bud Light have dropped for six straight weeks since the start of April.

Last week, it was 25.7

drop in sales year over year.

This last one, one that just came out,

is 29.5.

So this is still growing.

Now, Target pulled some of its LGBT clothing

from there.

They have lost last week $9 billion in market value in one week.

However, that is continuing this week.

Target, their losses now are $12.4 billion,

and their shares are going down.

Now, this is difficult because

it requires you to sell your Target stock and everyone else, but stock will go down if people are not shopping at their stores.

Yeah, if you see that the sales are going to go down, you're likely to sell that company.

Correct.

You know, stock prices are finicky.

A lot of factors go into them.

So that one could be a tough one to keep up, but it does target them

in

a very sensitive place.

So

there is a rap

that's coming up on the iTunes chart

called Boycott Target.

I mean, I don't know how many rappers and rap fans are going to be boycotting Target.

I just want to see you and hear you talk more about rap.

Thank you.

Well, I'm just so natural.

I have my doctorate in that.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, you're from the streets.

Yeah.

That's where you you go from the mean streets.

Mean streets, mean streets.

What was it?

Mount Vernon.

Mount Vernon.

Mount Vernon, Washington.

Wow, it's dicey there.

Yeah.

Okay.

So

the thing that we have to remember is

that you are winning.

You are making.

When the stock prices go down, if you continue to boycott

and you don't shop, you weasel Tim, my son-in-law, get a text from him.

Hey, I'm on my way over, just got back from Target.

And I just wrote back all caps, Target?

And he's like, oh, I'm sorry.

I don't know.

You're not coming to my house, dude, with any Target bag.

Anyway,

if you continue to do this, their stock goes down, which then triggers people losing money in the stock if they're invested in that.

And you've got Anheuser-Busch stock going down.

You have Disney Disney stock going down.

You also have Target stock going down.

Well, all of those are in the ESG funds.

This hurts BlackRock.

This is

really effective if you can sustain it.

But it's hard to know which ones will work.

I mean, I would say that Target is, well, no, Disney is the hardest, but Disney stock has lost a fortune.

But they don't care.

Yeah, that's an interesting part about Disney they prioritize their wokeness over you and your children.

Correct.

That's a statement they've made.

They've been clear about it.

Yeah, their stock is down 33%.

That's not what Bud Light has said.

I mean, Bud Light has come out and said, hey, holy crap,

we didn't want to get in the middle of this.

There are some Clydesdale flags.

Do you guys like flags?

Right.

That's what they're trying to say.

Now, from Budweiser, the Patriot Missile beer.

So

they have laid a bunch of people off.

They actually now are the fifth most polarizing company out of 100.

And out of 100, 77th in its reputation score.

That's Disney.

They don't care.

No.

They don't care.

They don't care.

That's what they see as their mission.

Right.

To influence your children.

Just like Walt wanted.

Back in the day, what Walt wanted was to convert your little boys into little girls.

Right.

And until you stop going to the park,

nothing will happen.

You stop going to the parks and things change.

But that's all they care about.

They don't care about the TV networks or anything else.

They care about the park.

Even then,

I'd be interested to see because the company's so huge now.

And this is not just a little company.

And there's so much more underneath their...

their banner than just Disney.

I mean, it's tough.

Yeah, testicles.

We found out now that that's what's under their banner.

And we don't need to know that.

Anyway, so underneath that skirt.

Yeah.

Test does.

Okay.

Thank you.

You wanted to know what was under Minnie's skirt?

That's what they are.

Okay.

I think that's an important thing to talk about, Clem, because these companies and these boycotts, for lack of a better term, protests, I think I like better.

But like, it's the type of thing that we usually screw up royally.

Like, conservatives attempt this.

They make a big stink about it.

It goes away in two weeks.

We fail.

And when we fail, it's important to note, we send just as large a message to these companies than when we succeed.

Because if you succeed, they say, oh, crap, we shouldn't do this next time.

We don't want to lose all this money.

We don't want to.

If you attempt one of these things and fail, you send the message of, oh, well, we'll just ride this out for a few weeks and everything will be fine.

And we can still be as woke as we want.

We can still deal with BlackRock.

We can still get our ESG points.

This is why John Roberts, the Supreme Court, did what he did, in my opinion, with Obamacare.

Because he's afraid of the left.

He's not afraid of the right.

Nobody, the right never does anything.

We never do anything.

If you change that by standing up and let your voice heard, really stand up and say, no more,

it changes.

Yeah.

And I think the risk here, Glenn, as we go into tomorrow and June 1st hits, Pride Month.

is we are about to get a tsunami of pride.

Oh, yeah.

Every single place you walk into is going to have a rainbow something somewhere.

Noah is even barfing over the side of the ball.

He's like, stop with a rainbow.

They got enough rainbows.

And

if our response to that is everyone protests 9 million things without any focus and we give up on all the other ones because they're two-week old stories.

We are going to be sending the same message over and over again that we can't maintain one of these games with these.

They are not sustainable.

And if they just ride them out, everything will be fine.

So I thought we should put together a a list.

I would love to get your opinion on this.

What are the characteristics to look for when you're trying to send a message like this?

But why is Bud Light so successful?

Why is Target?

Okay.

Easy.

You go to a grocery store and you open up the beer refrigerator and you're like, no, I'm going to reach six inches over here instead.

Right.

Simple.

You go to a bar, all of your options are in front of you.

Nope.

Don't pull that lever, pull that one.

Yes.

That's why this is the most effective.

It is the least resistance.

Yes, that's actually one of the characteristics I have here for this.

So the formula here, one of them is an easy substitute, right?

If you make this impossible on people, I know you want to say, well, everyone should be as tough as I am.

Well, they're not.

I got news for you.

They're not.

So

it's easy to do.

Right.

Because Disney is very unique entertainment.

This is also why the Los Angeles Dodgers are really hard.

Right.

If you're a Dodgers fan, you're not going to to be like, well, now I'm a Royals fan.

Well, no, that's not going to happen.

Your choices are delete your favorite sport potentially from your entire life, which people tried to do with the NFL.

And it is more influential than ever.

It's just really, really hard to do that and ask people to do it.

Bud Light to Miller Light, Bud Light to Mickelobe Ultra.

Really easy, right?

So an easy substitute.

An organic start.

You can't manufacture these things.

It's got to come start

with the people.

Let's go, Brandon.

Let's go.

Yeah, exactly.

That's how it started.

And that caught on.

What a million different slogans have been out there against Joe Biden.

It never caught on.

The company should have a non-ideological mission.

And I mean that, like, their public-facing stance.

Ben and Jerry's is the example I always go back to because, you know, they would rather be liberal than sell you ice cream.

Disney would rather be woke at this point than care about your kids.

It's crazy.

The priorities there are their wokeness.

They've just destroyed that company.

They really digress.

No, that's not a digression on this one.

A mass appeal product.

You want to go after something that they're trying to sell to everybody.

It's important for Bud Light to sell to everyone.

If they only get liberals, their company collapses.

Correct.

So you want something that they're trying to sell to everyone.

Correct.

Like, for instance,

no company wants...

No big company wants to sell to half of America.

Right.

It just doesn't.

Because

imagine how powerful our words would be if the left hadn't condemned us to nowheresville and said, these are dangerous people.

You should never listen to them.

You should never advertise.

If they wouldn't have done their job on the Blaze, and you would at least feel okay to sample us.

Not

you didn't have to become a fan.

I'm not saying that.

But if you have half the country and no one's willing to even sample you,

you get half the business, guaranteed.

And you might have only gotten maybe 10% more, but that's 10% more.

Nobody, everyone wants to be mass appeal unless it is your choice to be niche.

Right.

For example, us.

Like if there was a major liberal protest of Blaze TV, we wouldn't care at all.

No.

Right.

Because our ideological position is upfront.

We care more about our ideology than making money.

And number two,

we are a product that's not looking to sign up 10 million liberals.

We'll take them.

It's a little like Patagonia, where it's kind of a niche and they don't care.

They have their value.

And that's what they're going to do.

Environmentalism is bigger to them than sending stuff.

They don't care.

Okay.

Next up, trackable results.

This one I think has been interesting and learned from the Bud Light experience.

Bud Light has no choice but to release those Bud Light sales numbers every week.

And so we get an update every week on how this is going.

And I think that's helped fuel it and make it longer and sustainable than some of these that flame out.

Stock price can always be, as you know, it can be finicky.

It can go up and down for a million.

It can be manipulated.

It can be just market conditions can make these things happen.

So it's a little harder to deal with.

Having that Bud Light results, I think, has been a big part of this.

And maybe the biggest one, create social pressure.

You mentioned you texting your son when he brought up Target, your son.

My son-in-law.

My son-in-law.

There's no blood of mine in that man.

But he, that is, that helps sustain one of these things too.

When you say, hey, I'm going to Target, and they write, Target, what the hell are you doing?

You're like, oh, gosh, that's right.

I'm not supposed to talk.

It almost helps

extend these efforts.

Especially when it is a habit.

Yes.

When it's a habit.

Yeah, totally.

Right.

It's why you do well on diets when you have somebody

on it with you.

Right.

And you're like, wait a minute.

You're self-reforcing.

You just, you didn't send me a picture of your meal how come

oh

i didn't follow the diet yeah

and then you have somebody to watch you that that is

you know peer pressure and it works yep it works and coming up with a good example something that's central to the mission um you know something that is really a good story to tell you know this you go back to the rosa parks situation you've brought this up many times glenn that that rosa parks was not the first person uh to protest her buses in that way.

But the first example, and I don't remember her name, was pregnant.

Was pregnant, and at the time,

was a controversial figure.

They were like, well, they're going to attack her on this, this, and this.

We need to find someone better.

Finding that perfect example, you know, the one, the one little thing about the Bud Light thing that I say is imperfect is the Dylan Mulvaney can thing is not central exactly to the the argument we've been making about targeting our kids.

You know, this is an adult product.

You have to be 21 to consume it.

I disagree because I think the transgenderism thing is not about transgender people.

We've never had a problem with transgender people.

And that's why people are like, okay, that's weird.

But

nobody is after transgender

gendered people,

speaking in broad strokes.

Of course.

The problem is you are now pushing it into everyone's face and school.

Yeah.

So anytime, and you're mocking women.

I agree.

So it changes.

It does.

Though they're not putting Bud Light in school.

Target.

I think Target's closer to this school.

Bud Light was always seen to be on our side.

Bud Light was something that we were like, wait a minute, wait a minute.

You're with us.

Yeah.

And that was betrayal.

And one thing the right

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Yeah.

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Look at Donald Trump.

Million studies have showed this.

Yeah.

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I think somebody else, maybe

Congressman Bishop joining us, I hope also next hour.

Massey is the vote that let it get out of committee

and this bill that is just

horrible.

He says that

he's not a sellout.

He's obviously not a rhino, and he's not.

No, he's not.

No, no.

I'm not a real accusation against Thomas Mass.

Right.

He said, this is the first real bill that cuts spending in my entire decade in Congress.

So he likes it.

No, he doesn't like it.

He doesn't like it.

His argument was basically, look, I'm on the rules committee.

My job is to follow the rules.

And this followed the rules.

Right.

You know,

that is it, but he also kind of appreciates it, I think.

I don't know.

We're going to get it from him.

Okay.

I disagree with him, but

can't we just disagree without being disagreeable?

There we go.

There we go, Glenn.

Thank you.

Thank you.

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I love these.

Whatever the name says it is, it's always the opposite.

This is not fiscal responsibility.

Hey, you know, we could spend anywhere between $4 and $6 trillion in the next two years, you know,

over what we can bring in.

I don't think that's a good idea.

That's not fiscal responsibility.

Anyway, the panel advanced the bill to the floor for debate.

They could be voting on it tonight in a narrow 7-6 vote.

This was Thomas Massey of Kentucky, a GOP hardliner and fiscal hawk.

He voted in favor of the rule.

He said, today's bill is a product of compromise and reflects the realities of a divided government.

He said that he

was not trying to,

let's see here.

I'm not trying to do anything ideological on this committee.

That's not what committees are for.

Well, I kind of disagree with that.

Now, McCarthy came out and he, you know, they were like, ah, hey, dude, looks like you were outsmarted.

He's like, outsmarted?

Joe Biden can't even find find his pants in the morning.

Yeah, that's probably why we're a little upset.

He said, how are we outsmarted?

It's the largest tax cut in the history of Congress.

Okay.

Could we stop there for just a second?

First of all, Stu,

do you know how anyone's calling this a tax cut?

I mean, I'm sorry, a spending cut?

Well,

the stated part of this, and we can talk to Thomas about this, but it's a cut as to future projections and spending.

So it's a slowdown of spending.

It's not a cut.

Like they say we're going to be spending $1.5 trillion less over 10 years from what measure, right?

What benchmark are you talking about?

And it's projections made previously, not what we're actually spending today.

Correct.

Correct.

Now,

let me just ask this.

If it's a, let's just say.

I feel like you're luring me into something here.

Let's just say you're using the 1%.

Okay.

1%.

We're keeping a cap 1%.

That's the largest cut in American history.

And we feel like

I think they just went to plastic straws because paper straws are starting to get expensive.

Okay.

If it's the largest cut in American history, that should tell you something

because Calvin Coolidge cut the budget by 50%.

50%.

That's a big cut.

But it's nowhere close to this because we're spending so much money.

If 1%

of our budget is cut, and that's bigger than a 50%

budget, and then the next year another 50% cut from the budget, that's a problem.

We're spending way too much money.

Now, Thomas Massey is on, and I'm not happy with my friend, but he is my friend.

And

I want to listen to your argument here, Thomas.

What

the hell were you thinking?

Just to clear up a few things.

Okay.

I do believe committees are for imprinting your ideological preferences, with the exception of one committee, that's the Rules Committee.

What we do on that committee, if we're doing our job, is to make sure the House follows its own rules.

Let me give you an example.

All right.

We have a 72-hour rule that says you have to have 72 hours to read a bill.

That's been in place for 10 years, and the Rules Committee always waived it for the first 10 years.

When Chip Roy and Ralph Norman and I got on that committee, we said, you're not waiving this rule.

That's why you've had from Sunday at 7 o'clock until today at 7 o'clock to read this bill before we even get to vote on it.

So that's what the Rules Committee does.

Okay.

All right.

It's true we could have stopped this bill, but

we can stop anything.

You can rewrite legislation in the Rules Committee.

You're not supposed to, but I'm on there to make sure they don't.

They didn't do any of that malfeasance.

So he couldn't, in good conscience, use my position on the Rules Committee to stop this bill.

Now everybody gets it.

I agree with you on all of that.

If that was your reason, I agree with you.

Okay.

Now, let me go on to the bill.

Some of the people opposed to this bill are overstating their case, and some of the people supporting this bill are overstating their case.

Okay.

You know,

there are caps on discretionary spending.

There are work requirements.

I don't I'm not litigating any of that.

What I am the biggest part of this bill that appeals to me is they included language that I suggested.

It wasn't in the first debt limit bill that passed the House.

It was in this one.

It says that if we get to January 1st and we're still operating on a CR because the Senate wouldn't take the House's 12 separate appropriations bills up, we do a real, honest to goodness, 1% cut of everything.

Military, Democrat programs, all of it gets cut 1%.

Why is it 1%?

Why isn't it 10% or 50%?

Because I've seen these guys.

When sequester happened, they were willing to do unnatural, unholy, and unclean acts to avoid a big cut.

But I think a 1% cut is enough to just drive them back to the table and do their freaking jobs, 12 separate appropriations bills.

So that's language in this bill.

Now, it may never become operable because maybe we get the 12, maybe the Senate brings up our 12 bills before January 1st, but it's hanging out there and they know it's there and

I hope they won't avoid it.

Now, I know you had some of my friends on yesterday.

Yeah.

Super close friends, and I'm not.

And

you guys love each other.

You're on the same side.

Just we don't always have to agree with each other.

This one is kind of a big one, but I respect you, Thomas.

You are not a rhino and all those things.

Your logic is

usually very, very sound.

Well, here's where.

Now, let me let the engineer in me speak and do the logic part of this.

My friends,

they're not saying they wouldn't vote for a debt limit increase.

In fact, almost all of us in the House already have when we voted for the cut, save, limit, grow, whatever they called it act.

So they're not saying they wouldn't vote for a debt limit increase.

They're saying this bill isn't good enough, or maybe they're saying this bill is bad, even if it didn't have a debt limit in it.

They think it's still bad.

I hear their complaints, and many of them are valid.

But the question is,

what are we going to get if we blow this up in the House?

And I've been here long enough to tell you what I think comes next.

This is where I disagree with my friends.

Some of them think you blow it up in the house and you march Kevin back over to the White House and you put him back in the room with Biden and he comes out with something that's miraculously better.

I don't think that's the next step.

I think what happens next is McConnell and Schumer say, okay, well, you guys are done playing around.

We're going to get this done.

And they create another pair of negotiators.

They've done this before.

And those two guys have

great latitude.

They'll pump out something that's darn near a clean debt limit increase.

They'll send it over to the House.

You have 10 Republicans who will cross the aisle and vote with Hakeem Jeffries,

and you get a clean debt limit increase.

So what we're talking about here is a disagreement, not on ideology or even I'm not here to say this is the best bill ever.

It's a disagreement on

how we go forward and what we get if we blow this up.

So I actually

probably agree with you on what comes next.

And that is because McCarthy blew it.

He was holding all of the cards, all of them.

Now you go back and they will absolutely paint the Republicans exactly the way they always paint the Republicans.

And he didn't have to do that.

All the polls were showing that America was on your side for the first time.

They're on the Republican side on this issue.

And he blew it.

You know what?

If this bill passes,

I think McCarthy should be gone.

He blew it.

He blew it.

Well, he got my provision in there, so I can't say he blew it.

But I do agree that the 435 people in the House designating one person to go into a back room and cut a deal with the president is a real crappy way to do business.

But everybody agreed to do that business that way.

It kills me.

We should have been debating and amending stuff in the Senate and the House, and then

you would have a product that's valid.

But that's what we're going to do on the appropriations bills.

And I think the debt limit fight is a scrimmage.

And I think the appropriations bills that are coming up is the Super Bowl.

And, you know, I was a part of all three efforts to get rid of John Boehner.

I co-wrote with Mark Meadows the motion to vacate.

And if you go back and read it, we listed a long train of abuses that John Boehner had undertaken.

If you disagree with Kevin on this, it's not a long train.

It would be the first car in the train.

No, I don't think Americans look at it that way anymore, Thomas.

I'm sorry.

The Republicans have so, hang on just a second.

The Republicans have so damaged themselves.

This is a long train because every time you trust the Republicans to do something and stand, they fail.

Every time they fail.

And

it's not because they're outsmarted.

I mean, are they really this stupid that they lose every single time?

No,

it's because they don't say what they mean and mean what they say.

They don't look at these issues the same way the American public, especially Republicans, view these issues.

So I'm sorry if it's not so fair that you go after McCarthy on this one train of abuse.

It's enough.

It's enough.

It's enough.

I understand if you're on the outside looking in,

that's the way it looks.

But we call it the Old Testament and the New Testament.

On January, we created the New Testament.

There was a new covenant with Kevin.

And I'm willing to stick this out a few innings.

I'm not ready to start, you know, punching the umpire on the first inning.

Okay, I don't agree with the call, but let me take a few more swings at these pitches and let's see if we can score something.

So

it's a New Testament.

Let's try it.

I am not for, I think it's premature to say that we should vacate the chair or something like that.

John Boehner abused us for quite a while.

This is a judgment call.

What I disagree with my friends on is that if we blow this up, we get a better deal.

I don't think we get a better deal if we blow this up.

And I agree with you on that.

Because

your house leader blew it.

That's why.

That's why.

But I agree with you.

Now it's too late.

He got my provision in there.

1% cut on January

if the Senate hasn't done.

I can't believe the White House agreed to it, but they did.

1% cut on January if we're still operating under a CR when we get there.

You know, it would have been better if you would have left the Reigns Act in there.

I'm just saying.

We'll be voting on the Reigns Act next week, I believe, here in the House.

And I may be managing that bill for the Rules Committee.

Well, so

you know what?

I think you'll be celebrated from coast to coast if you can get the Reigns Act through.

But

Thomas, I want to make it really clear.

I

not mad at you.

I disagree with some things.

I hope that you know you are my friend and I am your friend.

But this is the way America used to be.

I will fight for your right to say and to do things that you believe are true.

You fight for my right to do that.

We're going to disagree because we're humans.

But I'll tell you, the patience of the American people is running very, very thin.

Very thin.

Well, I'm not infallible.

Maybe I got duped on this.

I don't think I did.

I've seen enough of the tricks they play.

But I respect your opinion, and I understand the frustration.

That's the same frustration that drove me to come here.

I know.

And I'm trying to see a way through this.

And we'll see what happens after this.

I would just say don't judge us and don't judge Kevin

on this thing alone.

It's like sighting in a rifle.

You don't look at where the last bullet went.

You look at the pattern and where the grouping is to determine what you need to do to correct the rifle.

Yeah.

And this may be a flyer.

It may be, but I don't think it is.

You can sight in the rifle, but when you're in war and the enemy is almost on top of you, sometimes you just start to shoot.

I'm just saying.

Thomas, thank you very much.

Appreciate it.

Congressman Thomas Massey from the great state of Kentucky.

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Yeah.

Yeah.

You're very tough on Thomas Massey, I thought.

Because he is your friend, and

he's one of the best

congressmen.

He's great.

I would argue.

I just don't, I think,

you know, and he may end up being right.

I think he is right on, it's too late now.

You gave away all the cards.

You held every single card.

And McCarthy just threw him out on the table.

Yeah.

I mean, I think the argument for the bill is, and I think I would be okay with this if they were a little more more honest, not Thomas, but like generally speaking, Republicans, a little more honest on this, that, look, this started with Joe Biden saying he wasn't going to even talk to them, right?

They started with nothing, and it wound up with something.

I mean, I mean, you have to look,

that's living in a vacuum, Stu.

For the first time, people were like, you can't continue this spending.

You can't.

So cut it.

You had like, what, 65% of the American people, they are not going to default.

If they default, it's by choice.

I agree with that.

Okay.

So, and people were, for the first time, you know, my entire life, they're going to close down the government.

They're going to close.

They're going to close the doors on us.

That's what they used to say.

Now it's, they're going to default.

Well, how helpful is that saying that when you know it's not true?

Okay.

And people, they knew he threw all that advantage away.

First time we'd ever had it.

Yeah, I mean, but of course they don't control the whole government.

They are dealing with people who are completely insane.

And, you know, you in that, they're never going to get this entire bill they asked for.

We all knew that.

So the question was, how much did they get?

I mean, what do they get?

10% of what they asked for?

Should they have got 25%?

Should they have at least gotten the FBI agents?

They're weaponizing the government.

Oh, yeah.

Would you do something?

IRS is a great example of this.

What did they cut $2 billion from the budget?

Yeah.

Like 2%?

Right.

You know, I mean, they didn't get much there.

I mean, look, I'm not happy with the bill.

I wouldn't be happy with it.

I'm excited to see how this turns out.

Is going to actually stand in the Republican Party for the average person.

They're weaponizing the government.

Yeah, I would argue.

What are you going to do something about it?

I would argue that very much so Thomas believes he is standing for the American people.

That's

how he does business.

No, no.

Still, I agree with you.

You have to watch this stuff.

And if they don't come up with,

you know.

Just how many chances are we going to give them?

No, you don't.

I mean, look, I don't think there's another chance to be given here, per se.

I mean, Thomas, I think, deserves another, deserves a fair hearing of his views.

But that's about it.

Over there back in Washington these days.

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I mean, I'm just saying.

But you always claim that he is, that you're an anti-Semite if you speak out about him.

I don't care what his religion, what his creed, what his race, I don't care about any of it.

I don't care.

He and America is now seeing it firsthand is systematically dismantling the West.

Look at what he's done to some of our cities.

His influence is dangerous.

Alan Dershowitz has just written a very brave article.

It's not going to.

Alan, welcome to the program.

Well, thank you so much.

I think I was there when you got the Defender of Israel award, and I stood up and I gave you a standing ovation.

Yeah, thank you.

You deserved it.

And you're not only a defender of Israel, you've been a defender of the Jewish people, you've been a defender of religion.

How dare anybody call you an anti-Semite?

The only anti-Semite that we've discussed on this show so far is George Soros, who was a self-hating, he's not even a Jew.

I mean, you know, he started his life by collecting the property of Jews who were being sent to the concentration camps.

That's how he made his first money.

He's devoted his life to hurting Jews, to hurting Israel, to hurting America.

And nobody's attacking him because he's a Jew.

Obviously, he's hardly a Jew at all.

As a friend of mine would put it, he's Jewish only on his parents' side.

And his mother, his mother, he brags, his mother was an anti-Semite, an anti-Semite.

So, how dare anybody suggest that criticizing George Soros is anything but good for America, good for the Jewish people, good for Israel?

I'm going to continue to criticize him as I've been doing along with you for the last 20 years.

Let people call me an anti-Semite.

This is not going to make you more popular.

Can I be any less popular?

I am so despised today.

I used to be one of the most popular guys around.

I know.

And I defended Donald Trump, so all the Democrats hated me.

And then I decided not to vote for Donald Trump, so a lot of the Republicans hated me.

It's me and my wife and my kids, and you and a few of you.

So you make the point.

I mean, I don't know what it's going to take because the media is all in for George Soros.

He funds

so many things.

And his son, I believe, is worse.

And he's got control, I think, of 17 of the $19 billion of these funds.

But no one in the media will say anything about George Soros.

And he is dismantling our country.

Well, and it's worse than that.

The Jerusalem Post had an article saying every Jew must support George Soros.

And I wrote back and saying, not this Jew.

I'm not going to do it.

I see evil where I see evil.

I see good where I see good.

I support Christians when they do the right thing.

I oppose Jews when they do the wrong thing.

And you do the same thing.

I mean, you're not going to defend somebody just because they're a Christian.

Nope.

Obviously, some of the worst people in the world have come from various backgrounds and various ethnicities.

You don't ask the question, you know, what's your religion?

First of all, Soros isn't religious.

But you don't ask the question, what is your religion?

You ask the question, what did you do?

Correct.

What have you done to America?

What have you done to fund prosecutors who are not doing their job and politicizing the criminal justice system?

What do you do when you take an organization like Human Rights Watch, which was a wonderful organization, neutral, unbiased, and you turn it into a hate America, hate Israel, hate human rights, and just use human rights as a weapon against conservatives and in favor of the hard left.

That's what George Soros' legacy is.

I know his son.

He has a house on Martha's Vineyard.

I know one of his sons.

I don't know the other one.

He seems like a nice enough guy.

And, you know, for all I know, George Soros can be a nice guy in person, too.

But you judge people by their actions.

And by his action, George Soros is an evil.

I mean, you know, I think that

Elon Musk got it right.

He's a super villain.

He's a super villain.

He may not be a cartoon character, super villain.

Well, you said real life, he's done an enormous amount of harm.

In your op-ed,

you said you won't call him Magneto because you don't really know who Mr.

Magneto is.

However, I've always said I thought he was more like the Emperor in Star Wars.

Oh, you think your friends will save you.

Anyway, you know,

there are a couple of countries, I think one in Asia, I think Hungary may be another one, that has banned his,

you know, Open Society Foundation and his NGOs from coming into the country.

I mean, I think we should do that here.

I don't agree with that.

And I also think that there are some countries

in Poland and in Austria and in Hungary, there have been some people who have used Source's Jewish heritage against him in order to promote anti-Semitism.

We all condemn that.

We all condemn that.

In the same way we would condemn if anybody used somebody's Muslim heritage or Christian heritage to condemn them.

You condemn the person for what they did, not for what they are.

And so, you know, I'm going to continue to condemn those Europeans who point out Source's religion, who compare him to, for example, the Rothschild family.

And the Rothschilds were real Jews.

They helped establish Israel.

They, for the most part, were great, great people.

And in that case, they only used their Jewishness to demonize them.

But that's not the case with George Soros.

And I'm going to continue to criticize him.

And I encourage others to criticize him without reference to his religion.

So how I've never referenced his religion.

And I've actually given him the benefit of the doubt on his childhood during the Second World War because, I mean,

I wasn't in that situation.

I don't know what I would have done, and I don't want to judge somebody for that.

What has bothered me about that is he said he's never given it a second thought.

He's never had any question about what he did.

And he said, if I hadn't done it, somebody else would have.

That's what everybody said.

Yeah.

Doing horrible, horrible things in Germany.

No, you stand up for what's right.

And, you know, I still love to hear him explain his statement, his bragging statement that his mother was an anti-Semite, as if that's something to be proud of.

I mean, you know, my father was a hard-working guy.

I'm very proud of him.

He put me through college and law school.

I'm proud of my father, but the idea of saying your mother was an anti-Semite,

there must be something about that that makes him gloat with glee.

You know, what he argues is he doesn't like particularism.

He likes universalism.

It's just an excuse.

That's just an excuse.

What he doesn't like is Israel.

He never has.

What he doesn't like is America, the country that saved him and saved so many of us and our parents and our grandparents.

You know,

my grandmother, who came from a little shtetl in Poland, was such an American patriot.

She would take us on July 4th to the Statue of Liberty, make us pledge allegiance, and and then sing in her broken accent the Star-Spangled Banner, including the second verse, which nobody knew but my grandmother, with a thick accent, knew the second verse because she just loved America and she loved Israel.

And, you know,

I'm so proud of her.

She made it from nothing.

And, you know, George Soros, bless him, he made a lot of money.

That's okay.

That's the free market.

But to use his money in the way he does in such a destructive manner is is appalling and deserves to be criticized.

And I'm going to continue to criticize it.

I got a lot of plack for doing it,

but I'm going to continue to do it.

So, all right.

So, let me ask you this.

So the only solution to, and I'm asking you sincerely, I don't have an answer.

The only solution to his use of money, the way he uses it, for instance, in all of our cities, is just to expose him and talk about it?

I think so.

I mean, you know,

there are ways of limiting expenditures, but they run into the Constitution.

And generally I don't support, you know, money is free speech.

And so

let him do what he wants to do.

But,

you know, let's condemn him for the way he spends his money and the way he tries to influence America for the worse.

So I wouldn't, you know, take away his money or take away his ability to

influence, but I would hope that people wouldn't be influenced by his money to defend him.

I think a lot of the people who jump to his defense and who criticize us are probably direct or indirect beneficiaries of his money.

Oh, yeah.

And that's why Meet Vetters and other organizations like that jump to his defense immediately because they want his money.

Thank you so much, Alan, for everything that you do.

And

just another notch there on the popularity poll

for Alan Dershowitz.

Thank you so much, Alan.

I appreciate it.

My My pleasure.

You bet.

Alan Dershowitz, Harvard Law School Professor Emeritus, host of The Dirse Show, which is a great podcast, and the author of Get Trump.

Not that he was saying Get Trump.

Anyway.

I don't think

we've ever had a guest on that's been more negative on George Soros than you.

I think we just set a new record.

That was an impressive.

And I guess you can't.

Can you call Alan Dershowitz an anti-Semite?

Is that what the next step in this little charade is?

No, that's where we're going next.

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online

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I'm not sure that people understand what he is trying to warn against.

Welcome to the program, James.

Hey, Glenn, always good to talk to you.

Good to talk to you.

He is the author, by the way, of the Marxification of Education and New Discourses Founder and president.

He says political warfare is coming during Pride Month and I fear

you're right and I also fear that you're right about the warning to Christians.

So

James,

where do you want to start?

I think maybe we'll start kind of big picture.

I think we're going to see what political warfare is, first of all, is when you use

basically intelligence kind of tactics against a population to get them to act and behave in certain ways that you can then take advantage of for political purposes, to drive an agenda, to get the DOJ to crack down on something, whatever.

So now we know what that is.

I think we're going to see two attacks through Pride, using LGBTQ, as they call it, issues as the wedge.

One of those will be to get our corporations that skew as American brands, Ford, Target, Bud Light, you know, Americana brands to take this up full blast so that conservatives will turn around and boycott and target these corporations as we should and almost as we must,

so we cut off ourselves at our own knees.

And Marxists would like nothing better.

But secondly, they will attack religious icons.

They will go after children.

We've seen this with the so-called Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence or whatever they call themselves in Los Angeles.

going after very religious, offensive behaviors.

And the goal will be to they know that that conservatives and particularly a lot of conservative Christians are getting angry that they're getting desperate it's almost like they've woke up a dragon and they're going to feed the dragon and get them to do something stupid that will then turn around and get used against them to whether it's investigate churches shut down churches

come down and on on conservative Christianity just from a political perspective so that they're the domestic terrorist hotbeds of the country and then come around in a few months and offer some new fake state-approved Christian churches that will fill in the space that gets left by bulldozing what exists now.

So, you really think it'll go that?

I mean, I don't know why I am surprised at this, but I mean, that is a huge statement to make that

they will shut down our churches?

Well, you know, the federal government can only do so much with that, but they can start doing investigations.

They can start digging in.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if there is some large Christian reaction that's not strategic, that's not thoughtful.

I'm asking nobody, by the way, to sit on their hands and do nothing.

This is a common misconception of what I'm saying.

But if it's not strategic, if we're not thinking intelligently about how we approach this, there are already large dossiers written for the federal government saying that the clause of January 6th, which of course is their favorite thing to go to, was in fact not even MAGA or Trump.

Believe it, how crazy is it that they say it's something other than Trump?

It's Christian nationalism, which is a rising domestic terror threat.

So if they can use some excuse to label churches as breeding grounds for domestic terrorism, you can bet the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice, and maybe the IRS are going to be cracking down and spying on churches.

You can bet they're going to try to push something like a Second Patriot Act that allows them to spy on churches and do whatever else that they have to do in order to try to limit that alleged threat of domestic terrorism.

And this is well linked already in the federal government.

This isn't just some media narrative, although that's happening too, to give it legs in the population.

This is something that they'll get the public to demand, that they're going to say white supremacy tied to Christian nationalism, white Christian nationalism is the biggest threat.

It's a very serious concern, and they will use the unbelievable provocations that they're going to put forth in the next month or two for pride to trigger Christians into giving them the reaction that they need so that they can justify these political moves against both christians and conservatives but also all americans

so in one survey conducted between 2007 and 2017 uh 52 percent this is the claim support some form of christian nationalism later study brookings institute public religion research institute says only 29 percent of americans fall somewhere on the christian nationalist spectrum over half republicans reportedly show some degree of support with 21% counting as adherents and 33% as sympathizers.

What exactly is a Christian nationalist?

You know, Glenn, I wish I could tell you because it's a very wide and I think deliberately wide spectrum of beliefs that ranges from things that are as innocuous as that we need to have kind of a broad cultural revival and bring Christian values back to the public square, meaning at the level of individuals coming back to God, coming back to the church, getting

their Christian principles right and living them, all the way to the other side where we're talking about and say the book that's titled A Case for Christian Nationalism by Stephen Wolfe,

a Christian prince bestriding the land is the highest official, not just in the United States, but in the world.

And so this Christian prince is, of course, a Protestant recreation of the Pope.

And this person is supposed to become the ultimate civil magistrate right out of kind of old philosophy.

You know, we talk old philosophy sometimes, Glenn, right out of Hegel's philosophy of right, where we're going to have this new kind of brilliant magistrate leader who's going to, you know, have the correct ideals and principles and lead the country.

So it's a huge spectrum of that, anything in between.

And they're playing, in a sense, both sides against the middle by putting out a wide spectrum of different views so that if one's unpalatable or one's too soft, they can point to the others and bounce around between the definitions and get people, especially Christians, to dip into their values and say, well, you know what, I'm a Christian and I believe in this country.

So I actually align with something in this and I'll use the label, which, like I said, I believe is actually a gigantic federal government trap being set for Christians to step right into and lose their liberties.

So let me just give you some headlines.

Politico.

Most Republicans support declaring the United States a Christian nation.

This is from the Washington Post.

Americans are growing more

accepting of Christian nationalism.

NPR, more than half of Republicans support Christian nationalism.

Well, I will tell you that

they will put me and my collection

of historic items into Christian nationalism because I do believe the founding fathers founded this.

through their belief in the help of God.

And we are a Judeo-Christian nation.

That's where we get most of our laws and the ideas.

They came from the pulpit.

That doesn't mean we hate other religions or anything else.

It just means that's the truth

of our founding.

So that makes me a Christian nationalist, I'm sure, according to them.

Right?

Absolutely, Glenn.

Yes, absolutely.

You know how the left works.

They work through insinuation, dissociation, and salacious claims so that they can take the softest possible expression, something like what you just gave that might convince somebody it's Christian national, and then tie it to the most extreme behaviors.

And this is exactly what the dossier that was presented to the House Unselect, if we might quote President Trump on it, House Unselect Committee about January 6th.

It's a 56-page document written by a lawyer named Andrew Siddell.

And

he goes as far on the one hand as giving kind of very extreme examples and tying it to neo-Confederacy and people carrying Confederate flags through the Capitol.

And then on the other hand, he says, here's proof of Christian nationalism being so widespread.

And it might be something as innocuous as quoting somebody giving a prayer that's something like, you know, Lord God, bless this nation.

In Jesus' name we pray.

And so now all of a sudden, because you're saying bless this nation, that counts.

So your collection, certainly, your views certainly are going to get roped into this.

In fact, what you'll find is most of the conservative side of the aisle will get roped into this.

I, according to my Wikipedia, I'm not even a Christian.

I work with a Christian nationalist, so I'm Christian nationalist adjacent.

But it turns out that the guy that I work with, his name's Mike O'Fallon, you know him, is not even a Christian nationalist and is on the front line fighting against this movement and this trap with me.

So

the facts will not matter to the left, is what I'm saying.

They will rope people in.

They will use insinuation, association to rope people in and to discredit them, to make them the new deplorables, the new unvaccinated, the new whatever can't be listened to, and to justify a large public scare campaign to get Democrats to pressure Democrat politicians to come out and push a Second Patriot Act to investigate churches, to demand a mandate to figure out where this domestic extremism is allegedly coming from out of our churches.

So here is something from the Joint Committee report on January 6th, that white Christian nationalists were more likely to eschew safety measures and prioritize the economy and liberty over the vulnerable.

They're also more likely to hold anti-vaccine attitudes, oppose any federal gun control restrictions due to the belief that the Second Amendment was divinely inspired.

They're more likely to fear immigrants and endorse anti-immigrant policies, and they oppose same-sex marriage and transgender rights.

Holy cow.

I'm telling you, Glenn, this is what Mao Zedong did in China and in New York.

Not specifically with Christians, although that's relevant too.

What he did very successfully was he wrapped up this campaign he called Unity Criticism Unity.

He said we're going to have unity on a new basis here in China.

And then he criticized viciously, unfairly, just like what you just read, anybody who might be able to be painted, not even somebody who is, but somebody who can be painted as a impediment to that new basis and unity under it.

And then when everybody that's still allowed to have, you know, a voice, a vote, et cetera, when everybody agrees, everybody who counts agrees, now now they'll have unity under a new basis.

We see this with the pushes for belonging.

You see this with the pushes for inclusivity.

You see this right here with what you just said.

Every bad thing they can think of gets tied to this label Christian nationalism.

And sadly, if they turn to some of these hardercore guys that are both talking online and they're writing books and they're doing podcasts, they have ample evidence of people saying that they want to overturn the Constitution.

They want to undo the 14th Amendment.

They don't believe in the Equal Protection Clause.

They want to get rid of the 19th Amendment.

They want to get rid of free speech entirely and forced belief.

They have ample evidence.

Stephen Wolfe, who wrote this book, has a podcast out there that I've seen multiple times because people send it to me frequently where he says atheism will be stamped out in America.

But what about Judaism?

What about Mormonism?

What about Buddhism?

What about, you know, that is not American.

See, that's the deal.

Christian nationalism, if that describes him, then he's neither Christian nor American because both of those go against Christianity and the American justice for all, freedom for all.

All men are created equal.

You can follow

the dictate of your conscience.

Those things,

they're in direct opposition to what

most people who would be labeled a Christian nationalist would agree with.

I don't agree with anything that he just said.

Right.

And like I said, this is probably a minority of the people that are part of the movement, but the left doesn't need most people to believe the crazy stuff.

They need one person.

That's it, which is, they have plenty now.

And it's not even, by the way, that this isn't American.

If I might be so bold, it's not even Christian.

I mean, the idea, if I understand Christianity correctly, is that Jesus came, Jesus offered his message, and Jesus...

is about you come to me if you choose on your own volition.

This isn't about go out and force people to convert or stamp out this or that belief or whatever else.

And what's happening happening is that people are justifiably and rightly frustrated.

They are demoralized.

They're afraid for their country.

And they're starting to get desperate.

They're saying it's too late.

The Constitution's already dead.

The law is already captured.

We don't have any other options.

And I don't believe

you're not a Christian because

everything

but God.

Everything but God.

Have faith.

Raising someone from the dead, a little difficult, more difficult than bringing America back to its sane place, not even its world standing, just where sanity and reason are once again followed.

That's not a big magic trick for God to do.

Raising dead, that's kind of a big thing.

What do you say?

We stop saying we're out of time, there's no hope, and start aligning yourself with the actual principles of Christ and Christianity.

You know, I ask these fellows all the time, these Christian guys, I say, why do you doubt God's timing?

If you have faith, why do you doubt God's timing?

The American people are waking up to this.

They're waking up to this now.

People have spoken about it for 30 years, some longer.

There are books from the early 1980s talking about this, this march through our institutions, and people couldn't hear it or see it.

But now people are waking up fast.

They're understanding the ESG is kind of at the heart of something that's going on.

They understand that social-emotional learning is the heart of the brainwashing happening in our schools.

We're learning the targets.

We're learning what's going on.

We're learning it very quickly.

And we are actually, as you mentioned with the boycotts, we're willing to stand up and take a stand.

Maybe we should trust in the timing of this because it's meant to be this way.

Maybe that's the case.

So, James Lindsay is with me.

Hang on just a second because I've got a lot more.

You have time for the whole hour with me, James?

Yes, sir.

Yeah, okay.

So give me 60 seconds.

We'll beg back with James Lindsay.

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So, James, you are warning as well, I'm thinking here, that you are seeing the capital T traditionalist movement that is happening overseas, and you're warning about that as well, just kind of an American version of it, correct?

Yeah, I mean, it's a very broad movement.

It's a reaction is always provoked by communists.

Communism is a global phenomenon.

It is provoking a, you know, traditionalist reaction or return globally, not just in the United States, but we see it springing up around Europe.

We see it springing up particularly in Hungary.

And it is something to be concerned about, but it's also something that we can draw from if we're willing to be smart and strategic.

Correct.

And this is all I'm asking people to do: let's be strategic about we know we're going to be provoked.

Let's be smart about it.

Let's turn the table on them instead of letting them manipulate us into giving them everything they need.

Okay, when we come back, we're going to talk strategy because he's obviously put a lot of thought into this.

I believe he is accurate.

I'm going to give you a quick example of history, how accurate he is.

That is the next step.

What do we do?

That answer when we come back.

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Why do I think that James Lindsay is right about this?

Because of this.

In 1916, all of the churches, all of the leaders all said, war, war, war, it's going to be won quickly.

And lo and behold, World War I is not won quickly.

It starts with Germany, and they are completely demoralized.

And then they are raked against the Coles by the Paris Treaty.

They're embarrassed.

They're humiliated.

They're angry.

1919, you've got a pandemic.

Starts to wipe everybody out.

Churches, real, true Christianity collapses around this time

and it becomes intertwined with government.

It was already intertwined during the war saying God wants this, he'll make us victorious, blah, blah, blah.

So people's faith

kind of goes away and there's a new republic.

And in this new republic, the Weimar Republic, society begins extolling drugs, sex.

The first transgender surgery happens there.

Pedophilia is starting to be

really kind of in the mix of things.

It's in schools.

The first sexology university happens.

Money collapse then happens.

Regular people are struggling, but the 20-somethings, they do well because they don't have families.

And it's a new world.

And so all of the people that...

We're saying, wait a minute, this, but these principles don't work.

They're all ushered out.

Lawlessness, Lawlessness, frustration,

homelessness, poverty, fear.

Then a guy comes along and says, you know,

Christianity is under attack.

Look at what's happening, all this immoral living, and I'll clean it up.

And good Christians and people who normally are good people

because of the 10 years prior, completely lost now and couldn't identify what Christianity, somebody's got to do something.

And they elect Hitler.

Six months later, the churches, most of the altars have a photo of Hitler, not of Christ.

The book burning starts with the LGBT stuff and then just doesn't stop.

That's why I think James Lindsay is right.

And it's a warning to Christians.

James, do you agree with that or not?

I think that's right.

And I think that a lot of Christians should pay attention.

I know Eric Metaxas has a wonderful book about Bonhoeffer, and they can hear what happened with the churches and the Nazis and how the churches can very easily be either roped into these things or even cowed into silence to go along with it.

Of course, they didn't know what was coming, the full scope of the terror, but they should have known that something was badly wrong.

And it's very important for us to understand what we can learn from history to see the trajectories, the setups.

The left uses the same playbooks again and again and again.

And we actually, if we get serious, can outsmart them.

So how do we do it?

Well, it depends.

Are you an everyday guy?

Are you a legislator?

There's different things different people can do.

In the first instance where I mentioned there are these two main provocations, the one against Christians being one, and we'll talk about that in a moment, but the one against corporations.

Every time one of these big corporations, whether it's Ford or Target or Kohl's or whoever, Bud Light, Anheuser-Busch, whatever, when they come out with their crazy provocations, you know they're going to put forth in the next two months, point back to ESG.

We have to be talking about ESG.

We have to be getting congressional hearings.

Call your congressmen.

Get the House Oversight Committee pulling these CEOs, pulling these corporate executives in and asking them, why on earth did you do this with your corporation?

How is this consistent with fiduciary responsibility?

Hang on just a sec.

That stops the argument from being about Christian values.

It's about ESG.

ESG is going to bring in a whole new religion that they call sustainability and inclusion.

Every other religion will bend the knee to it or else it will be put on, you know, the government's thumb will be put down upon it.

Our First Amendment will not defend us if we enter into an entirely new set of principles.

And so this is where we've got to turn the conversation with every one of these provocations.

This is about ESG.

This is about your corporate equality index.

This is about your health care equality index.

This is about your municipal equality index.

All three of those put forth by the human rights campaign.

And why on earth?

There should be hearings.

There should be attorneys general pushing on this.

Why on earth are our municipalities, why on earth are our corporations, our health care system beholden to a non-profit called the Human Rights Campaign?

Why is that number so important to them?

And if we turn the conversation to the real target instead of fighting with each other, then that puts them in a bad place, especially if we start to expose the actual mechanisms that they use to run this racketeering scam on our corporations.

Aaron Powell, so what does the average person do besides

calling your congressman and

your AGs?

Because I 100% agree with that.

What do you do?

So they should be doing that.

They should be, of course, getting educated on this matter, learning what ESG is, learning about the corporate equality index and making this message.

But as for the other kinds of provocations, it's crucial to think about these provocations before you react.

What are they trying to get me to react to do?

and then don't do that if they want you to quit you can't quit if they want you to punch somebody you absolutely cannot show up and punch somebody you have to be thinking i mean

you you want to think almost from again if i might draw off the bible

with jesus's instruction about turning the other cheek the idea is if they insult you then you turn the other cheek and let them insult you again.

Their provocations look ridiculous.

They look hideous.

They are not popular with the American people, but they look reasonable compared to a violent reaction.

They look necessary compared to people throwing a fit in the other direction.

So if you're a Christian, you should be praying for these people.

You should be offering, hey, if you have questions, we're happy to answer.

We're not going to push anything on you because we know you're struggling.

We know this isn't healthy.

We know some of you know that.

And if you want to use an open door, totally private, you can come talk to us.

They should be making these kind of peaceful offers.

And again, turn the other cheek.

You're going to insult our religion.

You've insulted our religion.

Aren't you the big guy?

Aren't you so cool and edgy?

It's embarrassing if you don't react to it.

And you can highlight that they are acting grotesquely and badly.

And our media should be highlighting this.

Every time they do these provocations, we should be able to highlight it.

Just like the left will highlight even one guy showing up and being a jerk.

We should be pointing out, look at how grotesque it is.

Look at how it happens again and again.

But you must protect yourself.

You must protect your churches if you are in that kind of position.

You must protect your kids and and your family and the kids in your neighborhood as well as you can.

So get involved in their lives.

Don't take them to a protest at Dodger Stadium.

Do something online.

Have a prayer visual.

Whatever it is.

If you do have people in LA who go to Dodger Stadium, do not cross the street.

Stay across the street just like you would do.

The playbook should be the same as the way Christians approach abortion centers.

They don't go attack them.

They stand a reasonable distance away and make their presence known and pray and offer to counsel and offer to meet with people.

And they don't go provoke.

We must not counter provoke because that's what they're counting on.

A lot of people will say that this is just acquiescing, that you're just, you're just, you know, we got to fight fire with fire, which I think is suicide.

You'll burn the entire thing down.

Well, yeah, the thing is, is we should, in a sense, if we're going to fight fire with fire, you have to pick the right fire.

The media is a good fire.

We know that they've weaponized the mainstream media against us, but we also know that on social media through programs like yours, that these counter stories, as it were, go viral as well.

Everybody that shares these things, they slowly leak out.

They slowly get out there.

If you don't give them the reaction, the story is look at these provocateurs acting in a grotesque way.

People all over this country are sick and tired of these provocations.

They're sick and tired of a month of debauchery and degeneracy.

pretending to be a civil rights movement.

And all you have to do is put a spotlight on this.

All you have to do is protect your kids and your family from it and put a spotlight on this to embarrass them.

It sounds like it's acquiescing, but it's not.

Acquiescing is ignoring it and say, yeah, go ahead, do whatever you want.

This is shining a light on what they're doing and then starting to ask the questions: why is this being allowed?

Why does Dodger Stadium bend over to this?

Well, let's get an investigation going.

Let's look into that.

Maybe it's investigative journalism.

Maybe it's a hearing before the legislature.

So, really, your strategy, if I read it right, and I think you're right,

if I'm reading you right,

that your strategy for a lot of it is keep the heat on, but do it smartly because people are waking up.

It's only a matter of time before this ends, and God is in charge.

I'll tell you, Glenn, nothing makes these people matter than not getting the reaction that they're trying to get.

And when they don't get that reaction, they will escalate.

And if they don't get the reaction again, this is turn the other cheek.

They will escalate again.

They are obsessed with pushing this, and they are obsessed with getting the reaction they need to do their social alchemy, which is literally what it is, problem, reaction, solution.

It's social alchemy.

If you continue to not give it to them, if you continue to stand like Nick Sandeman and smile in their face and not give them what they want, is the case study, they will go berserk and they will completely discredit themselves.

You're getting a lot of heat from people.

And part of it, I think, James, is you're such a reasonable guy and nice guy.

And you go and read some of your stuff online.

You're like, whoa, whoa.

You are just lobbing it back at them.

But

what is it that people are having a problem with?

Because I don't have a problem with anything you're saying.

Well,

the accusations that I get are what we've already talked about, that I'm calling people to acquiesce.

Whereas I'm telling people a million other things.

Take this as a call to go study the founding documents of this country and remember the liberty that we're we're defending.

Take this as a call to spend quality time with your children and bring real values to them and their friends.

I'm giving lots of advice for things to do, but I'm not giving advice to do something desperate.

And so that's upsetting the people who have become desperate.

Another thing that I'm going to attack on, and this is so typical of the left that it's sickening to see it come from people who call themselves conservative, is that they say that I'm attacking Christians.

I am attacking no Christians.

I'm warning Christians.

But there are certain people who happen to also be Christian or who claim the label Christian who I am attacking because I think that they are provoking people to be the reaction that the left needs.

So if I say something about those particular Christians, they say, hey, look, he's attacking Christians.

It's the same as if I say, you know what, I don't think that we should be doing transition surgeries on children.

And Media Matter says James Lindsey is anti-LGBTQ.

He hates LGBTQ people.

It's lumping a gigantic group of people into a criticism that is being targeted at a small number of people who claim the same label.

And the left is very good at this.

It's sad and, like I said, sickening to see it come from people who call themselves conservatives.

But this is what it is.

So I'm speaking truth.

I'm

giving viable solutions.

I'm saying that we have to act strategically.

When people are provoked to being angry, they don't want to act strategically.

They want to go do something.

They want to do something now.

They want to pound the table.

And it's a very important thing.

That would be the death of America.

That will be the death of America.

We are not in that position to do that.

We have to be smarter than this movement.

We have to cause it to stumble.

In fact, I tell Christians often, you know, Jesus says to pray for your enemies.

I say, well, pray for them to stumble.

Pray for them to mess up today.

And they will.

They will.

They already are.

I really think they already are because people are waking up to it.

James, thank you for everything.

Thanks for

watching this, educating yourself, going deeper into Marxism and strategies and

standing guard at the gate.

Thank you so much, James.

Thank you, Glenn.

His website is newdiscourses.com.

His name is James Lindsay.

His book that he has out came out about a year ago or so is The Marxification

of Education.

James Lindsay is his name.

I want you to imagine for a minute House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, you know, the most esteemed Republican in

yeah.

Anyway, let's say he says, you know, I'm your real estate agent and I'm going to get a great deal for you.

You would know immediately, don't trust that guy.

He's not going to get a good deal for you, right?

That's the opposite of what you're going to find for a real estate agent when you go to realestateagentsitrust.com.

This is my company.

And the trust part comes from the fact that we only work with the people who we have really vetted six ways to Sunday.

Real estate agents in your area, the people who know all of the best practices, they're ethical.

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Now, does that sound anything at all like

Kevin McCarthy?

No.

Realestateagents I trust.com.

The name says it all, RealEstateAgents I Trust.com.

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