Ep 183 | Why We CANNOT Trust the CIA | Tim Kennedy | The Glenn Beck Podcast

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A lot of things.

A lot of things.

Yeah, but

let's start with

war, military, all that stuff.

First, have you seen the ex-FBI agents that accuse top CIA and FBI officials of a 9-11 cover-up?

Have you heard this story?

I have not.

Okay, so they say there was testimony from 2001.

An FBI agent was telling the CIA, somebody's going to get killed.

You have information on a possible hijack for a plane, I don't remember what it was, American Airlines,

and crashing it into the Pentagon.

You got to give this to us, or there's going to be, you know, death.

Yeah.

And they didn't do it.

Do you believe that they were involved?

Way different than anytime I hear 9-11 conspiracy theorist, you know, they're like, that it was an inside job.

And I'm always like,

if you know anything about the military, and especially the government, we're not capable of keeping secrets.

And nobody trusts anyone, as that's, you know, apples and oranges here comparing each other and throwing stones at each other at every opportunity.

Do Do I think that the CIA would operate in a silo, not communicating up, down, and out like they should?

Absolutely.

You know, this has been a systemic problem from the board.

It's different than a cover-up that's, or I mean,

a collusion or being part of taking the towers down.

I don't believe that.

No, those are different things.

But if you had information and you didn't act on it, and then you tried to cover up that you had that information, then it's a conspiracy and it's a cover-up.

And of course, that's mud on your face and it's embarrassment.

And could I believe that?

Absolutely.

I can believe that.

But does that mean that they're complicit or party to the terrorist attacks?

No, it just means that they're the CIA and they need to be better at what they do, which is empowering us to do our jobs.

So we were supposed to get all of the Kennedy stuff.

Yeah.

Didn't get that.

Didn't get that.

Well, we got like lots of lines.

Yeah, but we did get one piece of information that I thought was shocking.

They revealed that they knew who Lee Harvey Oswald was, and in fact, he was on the CIA payroll for something else, but he was on the payroll.

Yeah, that didn't sit well with me either.

I think right now, in this age of information that we're living in,

and it's really difficult, you know, when everything is labeled misinformation and disinformation, and we so quickly just say this is conspiracy theory, and then, you know, not but

12, 14 months later, this conspiracy theorist that would have got you kicked off every single social media platform, we then know to be 100% true.

It is still really difficult, and we haven't, the internet's new.

We haven't figured out how to navigate all of this information.

But it's not just that.

I remember I was on CNN in 2006, maybe.

And

I was talking about conspiracy theories.

And I said,

people,

institutions are blowing their credibility so rapidly.

I said, right now, those who thought we were going to, we landed on the moon, you know, is at 6%.

You're going to see that tick up into double digits.

I think we're at 14% now.

And it's not just because you can read it online.

It's because the things that are being told to us don't make sense.

And then a year later, we're like, oh, so we were right.

Yeah.

That's just

feeding ground.

Yeah, it's shameful and it's unethical.

You know,

I believe in small governments.

I like transparency.

I understand

from special operations that there are specific things, tradecrafts, and secrets that I want to keep for protection of the force.

Outside of that, we work for the people.

It's the government's job to make sure that the people know everything that's going on.

When you start lying to us and intentionally trying to

keep information from us, that we then find out that you lied to us or that you kept information from us.

How do you think your credibility and even worse, like the people that vote you in and out of powder, power and support you and financially support you with our tax paying dollars, how that's going to play out in the long run?

Like we, I don't think at any point now, anybody's going to look at the CDC and be like, do it, they really have our best interest at heart.

No.

No, they lost credibility.

And they did it in one year just by lying to the people.

New approach here.

New approach.

You know this as a leader.

You tell people the truth.

Sometimes the toughest.

And when you get it wrong, I think, I really truly believe that if they would have said we were over in Wuhan, we were doing some things, it was perfectly legal because of this loophole and this loophole, I think we would have given people somewhat of a pass.

Yeah, a lot of people are not going to be able to do it,

but we could have given them great if you were on it right away.

But by lying and over and over and then just

asserting your dominance over people and calling, destroying lives to cover your lie i got i had no time for you no time for you yeah i'll get mad at you and i'll stay mad at you yeah and that's uh that's where we're at now yeah so let me take you to another conspiracy theory because you would be one of the few that might know nordstream the pipeline yeah

i don't buy the hey we found this boat that's registered to ukraine and it had one woman and four men we don't know who they were but they had scuba gear and they went down and blew up the Nord Stream pipeline.

It's impossible.

There's only a few groups on the planet that have the capability

to do it.

Why?

It's hard.

It's not just like, hey, I'm going to throw on some scuba gear and I'm going to go down.

I'm going to set this charge.

I'm going to blow it up.

You know, when you look at the Navy SEALs, you look at Marsock, you look at Army combat divers, this is a very, very rigorous, difficult job.

And our

screening to select the people to do do this job the screening first of all is very very complicated and it's very very uh difficult and then once they pass the training that they undergo to be able to do these things and then the equipment that you need it is um

i mean there's a half a dozen people groups on the planet that can do this and it's not them

do you think it might be us

man i uh it's it's another one like are are we so good at keeping secrets that we could go there blow up this pipeline and then nobody's going to know about it But I don't think, I mean, there's a lot of stuff.

I mean, they couldn't keep the fact that the steel dossier

was completely made up.

They couldn't

keep all of the corruption, the Hunter Biden, the Joe Biden.

That's all out.

We know all of those things to be true, but nobody's doing anything about it.

Yeah.

So, I mean, I think we might be in a different era where what are you going to do?

I want the people to wake up.

You know, not that I want Pearl Harbor to happen, you know, but the Japanese so brilliantly and famously said, don't wake the sleeping giant.

And then they woke us.

And I think the American people are stirring again.

The American people are unhappy.

The American people have been realized are realizing that they've been lied to over and over again.

And

there's no scarier group.

on the planet than a unified America.

And we are,

it feels so divisive right now.

But if you take a step back and you just tune out the 5% extremists on either end, you know, and you look at the remaining 90% of us standing in the middle, and we all want the same thing.

You know, we want to live free.

We want sovereignty.

And we want to be able to raise our families and live in peace.

And

man, I think they're making some serious mistakes underestimating what the people feel like when they're united.

But there's also

a coordinated effort to keep us apart.

Yeah, keep us apart and then mark people as enemies.

What the FBI is doing is terrifying.

Yeah.

Terrifying.

All kinds of constitutional

amendments are being broken all the time.

You know, have you heard of my friend Mike Glover from Tradecraft Survival?

No.

He'd be an amazing.

So he was in Special Forces with me.

He and I went to Special Forces Sniper School.

I have an amazing story I won't waste your time on the podcast with.

Just an incredible American, went on to work for three letter agencies.

I mean, 20-year sergeant major within special operations, and he started the American Contingency.

And

it's a group of Americans that just want to support each other in case something bad happens.

So let's say a bad hurricane tornado comes through an area, the American Contingency would be this group of people that could stand up and be like, hey, I have canned food.

I love that.

You know, I'm here.

It's a beautiful, very American idea.

The Bormans do it.

You know, but he was labeled a radical extremist because of it.

And he was labeled this by the FBI.

This is a guy that has worked for every single agency, like every great agency in the American government, to include Army Special Forces and special missions units within special operations.

I mean, he's like one of a kind, great guy.

And then he's being targeted by the FBI because of this.

And it hurt my heart because Mike is such a great friend.

And, you know, I try to toe the line.

I try to really not,

you know,

piss on too many people.

And Mike didn't care.

He was just trying to do the right thing.

And by doing that, he gets labeled this extremist, this radical, which could be further from the truth.

He's just being a great American that's empowering neighbors to support each other.

So

what was so radical?

I mean, they thought that he was starting a militia.

And if you pull back one layer and you look objectively, you're like, this has nothing to do with any of that.

He's teaching people how to can food.

He's teaching people how to purify water.

He's teaching how people help.

All of the things that a free society should know and practice.

100%.

You know, you know who Matt Anthony Wayne was,

a general during the Revolution.

And he wrote this great letter to George Washington.

They took the

fort,

Stony Point, and 2 o'clock in the morning, he writes a letter.

The battle is over.

He writes it to George Washington.

He says,

the battle and garrison are ours.

General, your men behaved like men determined to be free?

Yeah, you just gave me goosebumps.

That's, but that's that.

If you're determined, I've thought about this a lot.

What do you change if you're determined to live free?

What would you be doing differently?

Well, you'd be doing a lot of those things.

It would be.

So you could be a help and assistance and not be going, oh, I need help.

People that live in fear, people that are uncapable to be sovereign, are people that have no innate intrinsic abilities to protect themselves, their families, or provide for their families.

So the skills to be able to provide, to protect, and to preserve human life, those are skills that are inherent to be somebody that can live freely.

If you don't have those skills, then one, you're useless.

You provide no asset to your neighbors.

You're more of a liability than anything.

But how can you truly say, I want to be a free person if you aren't doing the things yourself to be able to be free, to fight freely?

Like, what are those things that you think should be on the checklist?

I think you should be healthy.

I think that

you should know how to grow food, how to purify water.

I think you need to be able to, I mean, shoot, move, communicate, medicate.

Those things, being able to, if you look back to our founding fathers, if you look back to the initial rebels, they were fierce.

They were brilliant.

They were hardworking.

They carved their existence out of the wilderness.

They could feed their own families and they could fight off anybody that came.

And at one point, they got pushed too far because, you know, they had taxation without representation.

They said, hey, man, this isn't cool.

But if they're useless,

if they have no skills, if they have no ability to fight, if they're not healthy, they're not independent, and they're entitled and reliant,

they're relying on the people that are then their own dictators, and they're selecting them to be their permanent dictators.

But the only way that you cannot do that is to be a strong people.

So strong people have to have that independence, not just a spirit, not just to say that I'm free, but have to be able to train every single day to be free.

I was listening to an old George Strait song the other day,

Amarillo by Morning.

Do you know that one?

Yeah.

The best line in there is, I don't have anything, but thank God I'm free.

Something along those lines.

And I thought,

just listening to it yesterday, and I thought,

that was the Texan mentality.

When I lived here in the 80s, it was,

I don't need anybody.

We don't need the federal government.

I don't need anything.

I'm free.

That's right.

I got it.

And I don't see that very often now.

Come hang out with me, my friends.

Yeah, yeah.

Mike's circle.

I think people are starting to pay attention again how vulnerable we were post-COVID, how susceptible we were, and how easy it was to break us.

You know, where you walk up to,

they say we're three meals away from anarchy, where if there's not food to put in front of the tate on the table for your family, within three meals, it's absolute chaos.

That's frightening.

That's one day, right?

You go to bed, you wake up, you try to go to the store, you can't find some food, you come back, you use whatever's left over, and then the next time you try to feed your family, you go, man, things are expiring, things aren't going good, let me go back to the store.

Oh, there's a really long line, whether it's hyperinflation, the bread lines are too long, or during COVID, You just couldn't even get into the supermarkets because they were closed.

One more meal, and then people are rioting.

You know, people are dumpster diving.

People are kicking indoors to start trying to find food.

That is how vulnerable you were.

And I want people to remember how scared they were because fear is a powerful, compelling thing.

And if you remember how scared you were, then maybe you're going to start doing something about it.

You're going to start looking to people about how do I get trained?

How do I get prepared?

How do I even can food?

How do I pickle food?

How do I purify water?

Can I have a well on my property?

Am I allowed to have chickens?

How do I turn, you know, goat milk into butter?

Any of these things that I don't think any American has any idea anymore because we have just so slowly laid down the sword willingly.

And it's hard.

Once you set the sword down, you don't have the muscles to pick it back up anymore.

You don't have the calluses anymore.

You don't have the back strength anymore.

It's hard to pick it back up.

1776 wasn't that long ago, and we have been very slowly, gradually setting that sword down.

It's time for us to pick it back up and what it means to be an American.

Yeah, I think my

maybe my father's generation, maybe some of my generation, were the last ones to really not be soft.

A lot of people in my generation are soft.

I'm the end of the baby boomers, the very end.

And

didn't have a really tough anything.

But the guys in World War II, the families in World War II, but we haven't seen poverty like that.

We've had it so good.

We've had it so good.

And people just...

Especially youth, just because they're farther down the chain on the generations, they just think it'll always be this way.

They just don't understand how fragile it is.

I know.

And they've become complacent.

We knew it on 9-11.

When those planes came in and we were suddenly at war with a foe we didn't know who was even trying to hit us, I remember that day thinking, my gosh, this is so fragile.

It just, it can overnight just spin out of control.

Yeah,

they brought us to our knees and then we went to war for 20 years and then continued to sacrifice our freedoms.

You know, the Patriot Act was the largest opportunity for

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moment of anarchy, not go without taking advantage of it.

And they did.

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Let's talk about,

I think, a self-inflicted wound.

Ukraine.

Man.

Yeah.

I mean, I, for the first time, feel, I just read in the paper this week

Biden has just given a billion dollars through the UN to China to help with their climate change bullcrap and I thought

we gave China a billion dollars what are we doing our absolute enemy right and we don't have a billion dollars and they are marking us as their number one enemy

I just feel like no one's being consulted on anything.

When it comes to Ukraine, I don't remember all the debates that were happening.

I haven't seen an anti-war

side come out yet.

Seems like we're just headed towards war.

Are we?

It feels like it.

The people sitting at the table right now, I remember

when Iraq and Afghanistan were starting to peak, you know, and you started looking at the people around the room from the dino cores to the Raytheons to the Halbertons to the KBRs,

powerful government contractors worth hard billions.

Not little billions, like

billions.

Now, trillions.

And it feels the same.

I have

obviously been to Ukraine a few times this year with Save Our Allies providing humanitarian aid to the last mile, all the way to the front lines.

And can I hate

Russia and communism and socialism

and also want to, and not want them to win in Ukraine, but also want accountability of our dollars and make sure that me as a taxpayer, that we're doing the right thing by way of our government and our

diplomatic relations.

Sink the lifeboat.

If we're the lifeboat, you can't sink the lifeboat or everyone dies.

That's right.

And we're just like taking a shotgun and blowing holes into the lifeboats.

You know, on the money thing,

in World War II, when we sent money over to

Africa for the war in Africa, and then we sent it again in Hawaii, those bills had a different color seal.

It had a brown seal or a gold seal.

And it was brown seal, I think, was for

in the desert.

If we would have lost in Africa and all of our pallet of money was sitting there, the Treasury would have said, take nothing with a brown seal.

Okay.

We're just, we're losing pallets of money like crazy.

And we know we can track that money.

We know we could mark those bills to not be any good.

We're sending billions, billions all over the world.

And we're not tracking any of it in the most corrupt country of the world?

Yeah,

it's hard to wrap my head around.

Every time that I've talked about Ukraine, it seems like I get attacked from both sides.

Like the far right are like, you know, you're a pro-war guy.

I'm like, no, no, I just don't want to lose to Russia in anything.

And I don't want communism or socialism to win anywhere that I go.

I can also, as like a constitutionalist and a libertarian, be like, I want accountability of every single cent and where it goes.

And I know that our government, if PayPal can track

the dollar, everything that, that, you know, if you went to Washington, D.C.

in January, they can tell exactly who was there.

You know, Vimo knows exactly.

Vemo knows exactly how much money you spent.

Uber was handing stuff over to the FBI and the CIA.

But we can't track billions of dollars of pallets of money that we're giving

oligarchs.

Yeah, seems weird, especially if you look at Monaco and you look at all the supercars in Monaco.

A majority now of them have a Ukraine license plate.

I mean,

that's a problem.

There's somebody getting rich there.

This is a giant laundromat, it feels.

But how do we win there then?

It's hard to break a system.

The Ukrainian system, they have done business like this.

Like, great, you give me a million dollars.

Well,

500,000 of it goes to these oligarchs for us to exist.

500 of it stays in here, but then we have to pay every single one of these couriers, this local boss, you know, like this church.

And then like the final money.

Quarter of a million gets out of every million.

I mean, that's generous.

You think?

I guess generous.

Yeah.

What are we doing?

I don't know.

Again, I don't want to lose, man.

Because

who's next?

Poland?

You know, they just bought 80-something Apaches.

The Czech Republic is scared to death.

Belarus already fell.

You know, you think Slovakia or Hungary are going to be able to put up a fight against Russia?

You know, like, this is the battleground against

Tell me about the numbers because some of that leak that came out says that Ukraine's not doing as well as the numbers suggest that we've been told.

Is that true?

That's true.

Yeah.

Ukraine is drafting everybody from, I mean,

you got a driver's license, you can serve in the military.

Getting on trains in Kyiv to go back out to Poland.

If you were a military-age man anywhere from the age of 16 to 50 and you were headed west, they're pulling you off the train.

It's wild.

Wow.

And isn't Russia doing the same thing?

So Russia's taking him from prisons.

Yeah, but Russia is still throwing cannon fodder.

Russia hasn't used any of its elite military.

You know, the groups that have, they're effectively getting rid of their poor.

They're getting rid of ethnicities.

Jeez.

This is how they work, though.

They're throwing bodies at a problem and they can do this for a really long time before it matters to them.

And right now they're

they're but this is the communist way.

Everybody, every single, I mean, I wish politicians could come with me and understand the way that communism socialism really works.

Like this utopian idea that you have.

They're going and picking the poorest and their most marginalized ethnicities and they're putting them in uniforms and shoving them to the front lines to die.

But it benefits them because all of their comrades are better off because they have fewer people to support, fewer mouths to feed, fewer poor people to deal with, fewer sick people.

But if you go to the east, if you are Ukraine and you go over there and you see these people that are dead in the trenches that died in trench warfare, and you're like, that's a kid.

That's actually like a brown, like Asian-looking kid.

Like, where are the Russians?

Are they here?

And no, man, they're just throwing the poor to die.

Wow.

They could do that for a long time.

That's a big country.

So we're led to believe that we got them on the run.

We got them on the run.

We're smoking them out.

We did way better than

when I say we, the Ukrainian people.

There is a major intelligence mistake on the Russians when they thought that they were going to be welcomed like liberators by crossing that sovereign border.

Ukraine remembered what it was like to be under Russian rule.

rule.

And can you be ethnically Russian, but still a proud Ukrainian?

And that was the mistake.

They thought every single one of those

Ukrainian by nationality, but Russian by birth, the moment they crossed the border would be pro-Russia.

That's where they done slipped up.

So they crossed the border illegally, right?

And they came in through the north and they came in through the east.

And every Ukrainian was like, no, no, I'm Ukrainian.

And they started fighting.

They started fighting very, very bravely.

And they have been dying very bravely.

And as Patton said, you don't die for your country.

You make the other patent.

So where do we go from here?

We are wanting a war that is not going to exist again.

We want this big, America, wants this big World War II maneuver war.

And that's what we tried to force in Afghanistan.

But there's a new playbook.

There's new rules of war.

These are proxy wars.

We're going to fight corporations.

We're going to fight the Wagner Group.

We're going to fight civilians that are being handed weapons.

black flag operations.

The type of war that we're fighting now, we're just not prepared to fight.

And we want this other war so desperately because that's the last war that we won.

We've just been losing ever since then.

And it's been a really long time since we won a war.

We're not going to win wars this way.

You know, if you look at

Sudan and Africa, if you look at Ukraine, you see the same thing.

These are proxy wars of us fighting all of our enemies.

You know, you got four mechanisms of war, diplomatic, information, military, and economic.

And we are currently at war with two different countries in three out of the four, and then one of them with four out of the four.

So, like, we are at war with China and Russia.

They're fighting us diplomatically.

They're fighting us with information.

They're fighting with us economically.

And now, via proxy, they're fighting us with their military.

So, like,

it's on, man.

Does it go into a hot war with Russia, United States, China?

Man, we're just one

in the leak.

You saw that U.S.

Special Forces were in Kyiv.

They have to be.

There's no way that you can be sending this amount of money into a country like this without people

that understand how money gets spent,

that have relations and understand,

that can track where all this, like if you want accountability, which I do,

but you don't think that we're going to be able to have accountability, that you'd be able to have accountability without people like that on the ground, you're like, this is just unfair.

Correct.

And you can't send the equipment that we've sent without

some really high-powered people that have been educated on these systems.

And can teach other people how to do it.

Yes.

Yes.

So how do we win?

What?

Transparency.

Like the American people,

50, 60% of the people, I think will drive their heels into the dirt to say, no, we're done with war unless you start really talking about what the mission and end state is and how do we win this war and then how we're going to

man and support this,

which we're not doing, right?

We're just like keeping our cards against our chest and then lying.

I feel like,

you know, World War I,

the Fabian socialists were all behind a big

regional war because they could change all the regimes.

They could change everything.

They were very excited and open about it within their own circles.

Didn't work out that way.

But I feel like that's what the world is doing.

We got the next big change coming.

So let's get all of us on a battlefield and it'll reorder the world.

Yeah.

You think that's true?

I don't know.

We are on the global stage in this geopolitical climate that we're in.

We're losing a lot of really strategic battles.

What we need to be paying attention to is the American dollar not being used by countries.

You know, we're

like, you want to to talk about a big strategic loss?

Yeah.

You look to South America and look to Africa.

I look to the Middle East.

Right.

You think 9% inflation is bad?

Do you want to know what hyperinflation looks like?

Where, you know, we're talking 15%.

Well, we keep the dollar keeps performing as it's performing in the countries that we're giving up the dollar in, we're talking a year.

In 2003, no, 2001, we had 73%

of all of the banks around the world, central banks around the world, held the U.S.

dollar as gold, 73%.

It was 65%

by 2011.

It was

49, I think.

I don't like this direction.

Yeah.

Going the wrong way,

in the last year, it's gone 10 times the speed of the last two decades.

We are on the verge of losing the U.S.

dollar, and nobody is admitting it.

Nobody seems to be planning anything, you know, at least planning to tell America what that means.

Yeah, I'll tell you what it means.

It means breadlines.

It means you won't be able to buy milk.

It means you're going to walk in and a gallon of milk is going to cost $200.

It's Venezuela.

Yeah, you remember Venezuela in 2018, 2019?

That is America next year if we continue the same trajectory.

15%

hyperinflation.

Every small business closes.

There's no way that your dollar, if you have $100,000 in there,

well,

first of all, the government's going to take half of it.

And then the inflation is going to take the remaining little bit.

So you're like, maybe you'll have 20, 30 left if you had $100,000 sitting in the bank.

That's how fast it can happen.

It's frightening.

And we've seen it historically time and time again.

So wake up, America.

Come on.

How do you prepare for that?

The people have to be strong, and we're not.

The people have to be.

There was a time where

everyone in D.C.

looked to the people and they're like, man, don't piss them off.

You know, like the people had power, right?

Every single one of those founding documents, you pull my fanny pack out right there, you pull out the Constitution.

You know, we, the people, the people had so much power.

And what power do we have now?

Now, now we, you know, we turn tail and run in every fight.

We don't look for an opportunity to stand up and truly fight for the liberties that we fought for to have in this country.

So on the individual level, it's time for the individual person to start taking onus as to what does it mean to be part of the people, to be a true citizen, as Roosevelt would say, when he defined what a citizen looked like, they're strong mentally, physically.

You know, they can protect their families.

They can provide for their families.

I argue that very few.

of our families now could do those three very basic things.

Especially in a collapsed economy.

Yeah.

Because we're used to, you know, I keep saying to my wife,

we're too close to Dallas.

We're too close to Dallas.

She's like,

and I'm like, honey,

when that size of a population is hungry, they will walk that in

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There was a story that came out today

that we are running out of howitzer shells, 155.

And

we are, if

the quote was, if America had to go to war, we would be out of ammunition in days or perhaps a week or two.

That's

partially true.

Okay.

So partially true is bad enough.

It is.

You know, during World War II, during the war acts, we were able to move the entire industrial might of all of America to the warfighting effort.

You know, when you look at these amazing weapons manufacturers and these incredible ammo manufacturers to federal, to like, I work for Nostler, like the best bullets on the planet.

And every single one of those bullets, 90%

90-something percent of them, go to the consumer.

They are dedicated to keep a percentage that go to government contracts, but those are ongoing reoccurring contracts.

You know, it takes one act for all of that production to be shifted towards the military.

And

that's a lot.

Our capacity, our ability to manufacture firearms and ammo has just grown and grown and grown and grown and grown since World War II.

And so when I say it's partially accurate with the current allocation of arms that come from these manufacturers.

But the moment that you say, okay, we're at war, all of this allocation then goes to war, man,

there's nobody on the planet that can hang with us.

Do we have all the parts?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, when you get to drones and to missiles,

we'll buy some of those from China.

Yeah, yeah.

You think

if I were Russia or China,

and I had this president and this Pentagon

and these financial situations,

I would say

take Taiwan before the next election.

Do what you have to do.

Let's get this all done before the next election.

Because

if a conservative who is smart

comes in, a lot's going to change at the Pentagon

fast, really fast.

Does that seem like sound thinking if you were Xi Jinping?

Yeah,

I've two really,

I can't reconcile, you know, adjusted position.

You know, we're

Xi Jinping and the two COAs.

Do I wait for America to continue to divide itself?

Do I wait for America, because they play a long game, right?

They have been playing this long game since Korea, and they have been winning consistently.

Do I wait five more years?

Do I wait 10 more years?

What is one election to them?

It postpones them four years.

Well, they've been doing this for 50, 60 years now.

Like, so can, can they just wait another one or two elections?

Like, if we continue our obesity rate, if we continue our education, like

a third of them of children right now can't read well.

We have the most obese, 77% of Americans are obese.

Highest population time in America where people are not eligible for service is right now as we're sitting here.

So the fewest number of people that are eligible to serve in the military is right now.

I mean, if I was them, I could be like, man, I just wait 10 more years.

America's literally killing themselves with all the stuff and all the gluttony and laziness that

their prosperity has given them.

That's one option.

The other one is,

let's just go right now.

And

Afghanistan demonstrated how not prepared we were.

Ukraine demonstrated how not prepared we are.

Right now in Sudan, as we just moved all 55 diplomatic personnel and our ambassador, but left all 20,000 Americans,

That's demonstrating our position.

So, how vulnerable is Taiwan?

I mean,

what?

Tell me about Sudan.

What the hell happened there?

It happened really fast.

So, we

there's a lot of gold there, also.

You know, South Sudan and Sudan had a split.

Almost every single Christian in Sudan moved south.

Sudan

then became mostly Islamic nation, and

they have been destabilizing for the past couple of years, and then it just happened rapidly

since December of last year.

And now we have two warring generals that are competing for, you know, in this coup for control over Sudan.

As, you know, last night, as of yesterday, we pulled all of our diplomatic staff out and the ambassador, we then told all the Americans that are there,

you know, shelter in place, stand by.

We don't have the ability to get you guys out.

We got the ability to get our people out, but you guys have to figure out your own way.

So

I'm talking tens of thousands of Americans are trapped there.

Right.

Yeah, I've heard the number 50.

The lowest estimates from the government goes down to just shy of 20.

We've seen all the way up to 64,000.

So, you know, you have the steps program, which Department of State, it's you, if you're traveling to a foreign country, you say, hey, I'm going to be here.

You're essentially letting the Department of State know that you're going to be there.

That's the lowest estimate is every single one of those people that said that they're in country.

But typically, we know it's sometimes four to five times that of the people that traveled there without letting the Department of State know.

You know, hey, I'm going to go to Ethiopia or I'm going to go to South Sudan.

I'm going to be on a missions trip.

You know,

did your church notify Department of State that you're taking 13, you know, young men or children to Sudan to dig a well?

No, you didn't.

You didn't know to do that.

And it's fine.

But those are the people that are going to be stuck there.

Those are the people that are stuck there.

And

it is two,

I mean, the two generals that are

fighting each other, they are both formally convicted of war crimes.

And

they are terrible, terrible, terrible men.

And their militia are caught chewing young kids with machetes and mopeds that will kill you in a heartbeat.

And, you know, like the UN just driving out, they just start shooting at them.

You know, every single person that has been leaving the embassy, they just start shooting at.

So, Savor Allies,

I'm sure you know this, but you know, Mercury one,

you were instrumental in movement.

My team, our friend Chad Roto

was the connective tissue between you, your efforts, your fundraising.

And I was part of four guys that were on the ground that were moving people to some of the planes that you

made happen.

Thank you.

So great.

Thank you.

No, no, no, no, no, thank you.

You know, it's so weird.

We raised all this money and then we're like, okay,

how do we do this?

And it was such a blessing because people like you were already on the ground.

All you needed was the plane and the money.

Those are good things, but it's not a lot of people.

No, I know that.

Fart a plane out.

No, I know that.

But it's also not like just, I'm just going to cross over the razor wire and get some people for the plane.

It was just a good marriage.

If I land tomorrow and you get a text from me, you send me some planes.

We will be on it.

Because you're going to Sudan, right?

Yes, sir.

Yeah, I just had a conversation this weekend about prepare.

We're going to probably need to help.

It's happening.

We got three incredible Americans, a similar talent group that was in Afghanistan.

And then Wave Two leaves tonight or tomorrow.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

After we're done with this, let's talk.

We'll make sure you're covered.

While we're there, Afghanistan,

there's a Chinese communist company that

is just setting up shop now in Wisconsin, in Michigan with Michigan tax dollars, like $700 million in tax money.

And in their bylaws, their corporate bylaws, they have to set up a chinese communist party outreach center for kids and everything else they abide by the communist chinese chinese party trying to fire me up yeah

you're waiting and and it appears as though they're going to make batteries they're getting the lithium through the taliban

any thoughts on that here's my face of absolute shock and surprise we were still on the ground you know this is the end of uh the end of August when Russia and Chinese military were trying to get into HKIA.

Like they weren't even waiting for our corpses to be cold and the runways to be clear before they were already sticking their little fingers into former American-controlled buildings and aircraft.

So I mean,

there's a very scary standoff.

A plane lands on HKA in Kabul and it just sits on the runway.

We're like, it's kind of weird.

We start running tail numbers.

It comes from Eastern Europe, but it's a fake.

As soon as darkness falls, the rear door opens, and

what but Russian special operations start coming out of this plane to go inside of hangars that were housing special operations equipment.

I mean, that is how, one, they knew where this equipment was.

They knew exactly which hangars they needed to go into.

And two, they wouldn't even wait for us to leave.

So

Afghanistan was strategic.

It wasn't just strategic for us to defeat the Taliban.

It's geographically strategic, and it is

strategic in the resources that they have there.

It's one of the many reasons that people have been fighting for it for a really long time.

And

we just left the big

huge airport.

Come and get it.

So, yeah, cool.

They're making batteries with resources that are pulled out of Afghanistan and then to support a Communist Party business that is set up by

while paying while paying the Taliban.

Yeah, it's good stuff.

Totally shocked.

Yeah, good stuff.

Can you be this incompetent?

I mean,

incompetent or complicit.

Okay.

Tell me.

So

I just don't think there's a way that even somebody with an IQ of six just randomly pointing to solutions, I don't think that they could be this wrong every single time.

Right.

You make

Glenn president for a day.

I'm pretty sure your policies would be pretty similar to mine.

It's like, cool, you're a Chinese company.

You are now kicked out of the building that you're in.

And anything that you own, we are now taking.

You cannot buy land.

You cannot operate.

You cannot be funded by any tax paying dollars.

I don't care if it's state money, federal money, you just don't get it.

Like if you are not aligned with the ideas of the Constitution, which is what our fan, which is what our entire country is based off of, and you have competing ideas, then you're out, man.

Like, welcome to America.

You want to be part of it?

Then, this is what you have to do: accept the dollar.

You know, you want our money, accept the dollar.

You want your bank to receive protection from the FDIC.

Well, it has to be American-owned, and you have to abide by this beautiful book, which was our founding document, the Constitution Bill of Rights.

No,

get out.

It's pretty easy.

So, incompetent or complicit,

I agree.

I don't think you could

be making this many mistakes.

Like, the roads are racist.

To, you know, it's probably a great idea for us to stand up

pallets of money and fly them to a corrupt country that we know is corrupt without any unaccountability to win a war that we have to win because it's strategically really important for us to win.

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Let's move to the last piece of the military stuff I want to talk to you about, and that is the woke crap that's happening.

I mean, you're still on the payroll with Millie, aren't you?

Aren't you still kind of an advisor?

I'm a Texas National Guardsman.

Okay.

And I have been spending my last year

with these large strategic problems from Afghanistan to Ukraine because I have spent so much time in both of them.

You know, working with the Joint Chief of Staff, the senior enlisted advisor to the joint chief of staff

you know both special operations guys both the siac and the chairman come from special operations one from air force special operations and

and then general milley from the green berets and uh

you know that this

The military is always a byproduct of what our society is doing.

And our society has been woefully broken.

It's really easy for us to throw darts at bad military policy unless you take a step back and look at the military policy as coming from things that are happening in society.

The military is always a representation of the way that our country is and it's headed.

So

the first time that we had a trans Green Beret, Well, that was obviously not the first trans person that we had in the United States.

Like how many trans people were there in the United States before we had a trans Green Beret or a trans Nev Steele?

Like how long was it before we had

these things happen?

And this is why I pounded so hard about the importance of the people waking up and being strong, because we'll always be like, oh, we don't have enough people in the military because we're having recruiting problems.

Yeah, we're having recruiting problems because America is fat and broken.

Is it the military's fault because we're having recruiting problems?

Or is it because there's fewer people that we've ever had access to?

So I do want to hold the military accountable, never want to lower standards, always want to be the most lethal fighting force on the planet.

Our one job is to go and win our wars.

Can we do that with 350 million Americans that are not capable of serving

or that are demanding that

there be this LGBTQ book in the children's library on a military post?

I don't know how to reconcile these two things because

does the cart become before the horse?

In some cases, in this instance, like the horse is the people and the cart is the military.

And the people are dragging the military into these really terrible positions to do things that we're not supposed to be doing.

Okay, so I like that explanation.

I feel comfortable with that explanation until you go and look at,

you know,

Kirby standing up and going,

I don't see any problems with Afghanistan.

We just did this report and it wasn't to assign blame.

That made my blood, like, I almost lost my mind.

Right?

I was so fierce.

And

then they released this report that doesn't even, I mean, it's one, lie.

It's a lie.

It's full of inaccuracies.

And then, two, to stand up there and be like, man, I didn't see any chaos in Afghanistan.

Like, there were children hanging in quarantina wire.

There were little tiny burning babies on the ground.

I know.

And people, the American people saw aircraft with people hanging from the landing gear and falling to their death.

Like, but you didn't see any?

Right.

But the rest of us did.

So, so what is the, I mean, that's the problem with our country.

It seems that all of the elites up at the top are living in Willy Wonka's chocolate factory.

I just think they can say anything they want and nobody holds them accountable because we're too weak and broken and divided to hold them accountable.

It's our fault.

Who said to Kirby that he's lying?

Who came out and said, then you can't say that because it's just not factually true.

I remember that.

And we're just not going to allow you to do that because we, the people, are strong.

We can't do that in the position that we're in.

until we do.

They're just going to keep doing it.

And is that just

because we're all politically divided, that everything has become about politics now?

It's so easy to do anything that you want when you have no unified voice to stop you.

So what's the solution there?

And don't wake the sleeping giant, but they are.

I think the solution is finding common ground that

freaking Adolf Hitler.

What a piece of work, right?

Yeah.

Pretty easy for us to be like,

that guy's going to die.

You know, I'm going to send my sons and daughters.

We're going to storm beaches and we're going to climb cliffs and we're going to run in the streets of Berlin and we will fight all the way until every single inch of land that that man ever stood on has been eradicated from his presence.

Not his ideas, because his ideas lived on, unfortunately.

But like,

that's what happened, right?

You come and you bomb Pearl Harbor.

We will fight you all the way to your shores and drop nuclear bombs on you.

That's what we can do.

So what does that look like?

That looks like an American people finding common ground to stand together and demand

change.

So I think that the thing that used to bring us together was the Bill of Rights.

And I'm not sure why everybody believes in the Bill of Rights anymore.

I don't know if this generation has ever read them.

They're definitely not being taught it in school.

Our education system has been, by design, eroding every single fiber of what it means to be an American.

Like, ask any kid in a public school, when was the last time they said the Pledge of Allegiance?

Ask any kid in a public school,

give me five amendments to the Constitution.

No, I can't.

Tell me, just give me two of the three branches of government.

They can't, right?

But they're being

demanded to go go and participate in

radical protests.

You know,

me as your teacher, go ahead and write an essay on

what you did for your community in the Black Lives Movement during an LGBTQ reading fest at your local library.

You know, like those are actual requests by public schools to their students to go and do.

You know, what do you think it would feel like?

Write me an essay.

What it would feel like to be in the skin of somebody of a different gender?

That's child abuse, first of all.

Second, it's anti-American.

And

why anti-American?

Every one of us, when I say one of us, every one of the patriots that fought

taxation without representation, we had a tyrannical government.

that was dictating what we were going to be doing in our lives.

And we said, no, like I will choose what's best for me and my family.

Right.

I, at the smallest unit, all the way down to the family, will have the power, the onus to make the decisions.

That's American.

That's the idea of what it means to be an American, is to have this strong family nuclear family that will make the decisions, how they're educated, what churches they're going to go to, if they're going to go to church, if they're going to go to the mosque, if they're going to go to the synagogue, it doesn't matter.

That's a freedom that you have because we're all capable to fight for it.

But now we're told, we're being told all the different ways of what we're supposed to think, how we're supposed to act, if we're supposed to pray, if we think that a flag is even a symbol that is appropriate for us to fly,

that it's okay to take a knee, that it's fine to walk off the field.

I fully believe in freedom, and I fully believe that you have the right to do and say whatever you want.

But like Bud Light is learning, there's consequences to those decisions, and that's the American people knowing what's right and wrong.

And when I say un-American, it's because it goes down to the individual family, we the people, being able to do what's best for them.

Let me come way off of the charts here and

ask you, I saw an interview with you

with Joe Rogan.

And

you were in the middle of the series about finding Hitler.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

And I was just fascinated by that little

alpine town and

how these Nazis are still, I mean, they, do you believe that Hitler survived in the end?

I want a body.

You know, I know, having researched this for three years, I spent three years looking for Nazis in South America and finding Nazis in South America, looking at them going to North Africa, looking at them moving throughout the Catholic Church.

Like I spent three years looking at every single rat line that they made to get people out.

The Catholic Church was involved in that?

They were.

Yep.

That's too bad.

Yeah.

I love the Catholic Church.

I'm not disparaging, but you also have to remember that the National Socialist Party of Germany was directly connected to the church at the time.

So, you know, you would get

Nazi members that would actually go into the church post-World War II, learn a language before they were moved to South America.

So they'd go to like the Canary Islands or they'd go to Spain as a lily pad before they moved to Beraloche, Argentina.

And

while they're there, they're in the church's protection.

Documented.

But

I know the mechanisms were in place to get him out.

And I know high-ranking Nazis escaped.

And how can the number two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight guy get out, you know, but the number one guy dies in a bunker?

Very possible.

You know, if you look at Berlin in April,

you got Russians coming in on the Eastern Front, right?

We're just pounding tanks.

It is just...

It's a mess.

So could he get out?

I don't know.

Did he get out?

I don't know.

And until I find like a smoking body and we're trying to get to Russia to look at, you know, the remains that he had, that are there.

But

I, so I'm just going to leave it at an I don't know.

I know that they had the capability to get him out.

I will tell you, you, you touched on

something and then didn't really,

it wasn't followed up.

You know, we brought in a lot of Nazis.

I mean, we've, we,

we pretty much put Hydra together, I think.

We did.

did.

It is Operation Paperclip for people that don't know.

It's mostly public now.

Most of the things have been declassified.

So it was like declassified on a Sunday afternoon, and so not a lot of people read it.

But I recommend people look into it.

It was a CIA operation where we were taking Russian engineers, key Russian strategic partners, and we gave them...

Yeah, not Russian, German, Nazi specifically.

We were fighting the Russians, and this is why we're doing it.

So, the Russians were competing for the same experts.

The technological and warfare

advances that were made in Germany from 1935 to 1945 are incredible.

Most of what we know about our atomic bomb being the first to do it came from Nazi scientists

that we won over and defected, traded, not defected because they didn't give up their ideas, to the United States via Operation Paperclip.

We were also using that same operation to give clemency to some people.

So it'd be like, all right, we'll take this guy, but we'll also turn our eye away from this other guy.

So like, yes, we'll take this really important guy because we need him,

whether he was a nuclear engineer,

Werner von Braun.

Yeah.

But like Skorzensky.

We'll just

the the SS colonel that was protecting Adolf Hitler.

We know for a fact that he was working for us in certain capacities, fighting socialists and communists in South America.

Because who's the worst enemy of a communist and a socialist?

A fascist.

So it's like, would it be all right for us to go ahead and keep this fascist, you know,

under our good graces, not persecute him for the war crimes that we know he committed and hang him in Nuremberg?

Or just let him go down to South America and to Chile and Argentina and Brazil.

We did it time and time and again.

How much do you think they influenced here?

Those who came here, all the doctors, Werner von Braun had a huge impact.

But he was scrubbed clean.

But I don't think he was clean.

I think he knew what was going on in his plants.

Yeah.

How much do you think they influenced us?

Did that influence science or

leave a mark anywhere?

I mean, you know, when you were at that little alpine town, it still has left the mark.

I mean, it is what it is.

Yeah.

They came to work here and then were just assimilated into our academia.

Yeah, I mean, assimilated.

We're in Texas.

You know, we have how many New Yorkers and Californians moving here by the day.

Are they assimilating or are they bringing their baggage with them?

They're bringing their baggage with them.

We can see it with the way especially the immediate adjacent neighborhoods, suburbs of the urban centers are voting the way in correspondence with the number of them that are moving here.

You bring baggage when you assimilate.

They brought baggage.

Well, I mean,

assimilate is probably a bad word.

They disappeared into the fabric of our communities.

Do you, do you.

They disappeared by design because

the Mossad was hunting them.

You know, the Mossad hunted these guys to this day.

Even if you went into,

if you went to Villa Bavaria,

which is this area in Chile that housed a whole bunch of Nazis, if you go into the towns around there, you know, you don't get a Buenos Dias Amigo, you get a Gutenbergen

when you walk in there.

I mean, this is...

This is 2023, you know?

And you walk in there and

not only did they not assimilate, not only did they not disappear, they carried their ideas with them.

And I think they're even more dangerous now because they have been generationally separated from these radical ideas.

So I don't know how many Nazis in 1943 had SS tattoos on their neck.

Well,

I went and saw dudes with SS tattoos on their neck, with swastikas burnt onto their chest, you know, with palm leaves tattooed onto their thighs.

And I was able to get into some of these worlds because, you know, like I have that same bravado of some of the things that they, they like fighting.

They like tough guys.

So I could walk into these fight clubs in argentina and um you know these jiu-jitsu and boxing clubs and and be like oh man that's tim kennedy you know like ufc fighter and he's a soldier you know like and then you know feed them a few lies and they start talking to me and they're those ideas from their grandparents who moved here in 1945, how you're able to get out of Germany in 1945 and make it to Argentina.

Man, that's incredible.

Those ideas had been planted and those seeds had had been planted and those radical fascist,

genocidal psychopathic ideas have just been growing.

Good heavens.

Yeah, and it's bad.

Well, it's always good to talk to you.

When do you leave for Sudan?

Tomorrow?

I'm waiting, you know, in the landseer air, are we bringing

I'm not going to talk about like our ways to get these people out, you know, but there's lots of

we're trying to figure out where are our best avenues to get the most amount of people out as safely as we can can we take them here can we take americans yeah can we will they allow us to you know what it was like last time with the state department yeah that that was to get so we were trying to get our allies yeah i know i know um so americans you have a blue passport and that i'm that that is our effort like as afghanistan we're trying to rescue all of the people that fought with us so you know if you if you're an interpreter if you're a commando if you're a pilot you know you'd fought the taliban for 20 years and we promised you that you'd be safe.

So like, come on over.

This is going to be a little bit different because we're just going to get Americans.

Americans and specifically our allies.

So, you know, if there's a German or French citizen that's trapped there, you know, if there's somebody from Australia that's like, man, I was here for a mission trip.

How do I get out?

I'm not going to turn those people away.

So I don't.

We have, especially since Afghanistan, developed, because of our success there, thanks to you and so many other people, we have developed our kind of diplomatic channels within within the U.S.

government, save our allies, to be able to do things like this.

That's why we are this kind of bespoke expeditionary, small footprint special operations group.

So now I can pick up the phone and call somebody direct and be like, hey, man, I have a boat full of Americans that I'm going to bring in to insert this name of this country.

I'm going to need visas to move them from here to here.

Then I'm going to lily pad them from here back to the United States.

How do I make this happen?

And they'll be able to do it.

I mean, God willing, you know, like really God willing.

willing, please pray and please tell everybody you know to pray because that's, it's a lot of Americans.

It is.

Thank you for everything you do.

Yeah.

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