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I want to talk to you a little bit about what is going on with cancel culture and the violence that is coming to our streets.

What is it they don't understand?

Well, apparently, a lot, but we got a lesson and clarification for the left on where we stand.

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Okay, so there is

so much going on today,

especially with cancel culture, that I think it's important that we kind of have a reset and

we talk about

what we believe and how we're handling ourselves.

Coming up later today,

Michael Knowles is going to be with us, but

there is an attack

on

Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, the Daily Wire, things I haven't seen, well, ever, I don't think.

The violence.

I believe somebody's going to get killed.

If

pray for everybody at the Daily Wire and everybody who does this job, because the left has ratcheted up a notch.

They yesterday hacked into Matt Walsh's email.

They took 20 years of his email and they're just going to start releasing it.

By the way, 20 years ago, he was 16.

So I'm guessing there's going to be some crazy things in his email.

And who hasn't changed in 20 years?

They are threatening.

The security that has to be around all of us that do these jobs now is becoming

incomprehensible.

Most people who do this job do not make the kind of money that can afford security.

So they either live in fear and in risk of being killed

or they shut their mouths.

Well, luckily, there's enough people like you and me that won't shut our mouths.

The left is

the left is so infuriating.

Let's start with the Bud Light debacle.

If they understood, if they just try to understand what we're saying,

they would understand a couple of things.

We're not after anybody.

We're not threatening anybody.

But we've had enough.

Tolerance and acceptance.

is really no longer possible because we are so far apart from each other.

We have nothing in common.

See, what brought us together, our e pluribus unum, was an idea.

And that idea is all based on the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights.

Okay?

That's it.

We always disagreed with each other.

We celebrated the differences.

Okay,

diversity was something that we got back in the 60s.

We got it.

We were making great progress on physical diversity.

Great progress.

That's gone.

Now you're trying to limit the key

to the individual, and that is

intellectual and spiritual diversity.

It's either your way or the highway.

And I don't mean the highway like, beat it, kid.

I mean they're going to put you in the center of the highway and they're going to run over you with a truck.

Look at the violent obsession with Donald Trump.

Really, all they had to do was either ignore him or the scariest thing would have been to side with him, bring him in.

Oh, Donald, you're the greatest.

He...

He wouldn't have been that big of a problem, but they went after him with everything.

They're sick.

They're really sick people.

It is time we start defining many people on the left as mentally ill.

That's what's so annoying is we're blamed for their sickness.

No, I have nothing to do with your sickness.

I have nothing to do with your sickness.

The attack on Matt Walsh.

Matt's account was hacked last night.

Ben Shapiro pointed out after the past few months, my friend Matt Walsh has been threatened to the extent that he's had to have full-time security at his home to protect his family.

Now he's been hacked.

The tolerant and diverse and kind crowd are celebrating, of course.

I've said this for a very long time.

They self-diagnose whatever they accuse you of doing,

they are doing.

Okay?

They accuse us of every crime they ever commit.

And that is a consistent trait of theirs.

Their moral relativism is so frustrating to deal with.

And that's where we really kind of separate.

There seems to be moral relativism and also a complete disregard for the facts of history and individual cases.

The last response from, you know, Bud Light,

why would you, if you were just a regular beer drinker and you weren't loyal to Bud because it's just another light beer

and you were a

blue collar, red state kind of person, why would you go by Budweiser when they've just slapped you across the face?

And quite honestly, slapped your wife across the face.

That's not a woman.

Sorry, He's not a woman.

And if you decide to define women and hold that woman up and say,

that's the epitome of a woman.

She should have her face on a can of beer, then I'm going to find another beer.

What is wrong with that?

That's not cancel culture.

That's an individual choice.

Stu said it perfectly on Monday.

The New York Times article, they achieved a gaslighting that I didn't even think was possible.

And in the next breath, they claim that transgender activists don't exist.

They claim that transgender activists are under attack.

Wait a minute, which is it?

They don't exist or they're under attack.

Other times, they admit that they do exist, but they only blame us for their existence.

Okay,

I've just had enough.

I don't think I'm much different than the average person.

I didn't get into this job to be this guy, to be a political activist.

I'd like to have my life.

Okay, I'd like to do the things I want to do.

I'd like to have the opportunities to do the things that I know I can do and I know others would join me.

For instance, Paramount Pictures.

I had a deal with them.

Van Jones and Color of Change got that canceled.

Well, I didn't think you guys were doing that.

I just like to live my life, and whether I'm successful or not successful would be up to me.

Do I have something of value to say to the society?

If all of this stuff didn't happen, I don't know if I would have been a success.

I just happened to have this point of view, and I'm not going to shut up about it.

But I don't want to be an activist.

I want nothing to do with it.

I mock community organizers.

Much to my shame now.

We shouldn't have mocked those guys.

But I don't want to be a symbol.

I don't want to be a martyr.

I don't want to be anything of the sort.

I don't think anybody on the right does.

I just want to live

in a world that has verifiable truth.

that you are allowed to question the truth.

And the mob or the government is not the final arbiter of truth.

The facts are.

I want to live in a world that has verifiable truth, has equal justice where it doesn't matter if it's my son who's a drug addict hooking up with hookers and making deals with the Chinese.

If my son were doing that, he should go to jail.

But so should the president's son.

So truth, real justice,

and dare I say the American way,

which is,

do not be confused, the American way is that we have certain inalienable rights.

And among them are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

And a few more are outlined in the Bill of Rights.

And if they're not mentioned there, that doesn't mean they don't exist.

That's all I want.

That's all I want.

But I'm sorry, leftist.

I'm sorry, transgender people.

You force me to stand up because this can't continue.

You try to

write this play

in your own mind that none of this is new or even controversial.

Like, like, this has been happening the whole time.

Suddenly, they needed something to complain about.

And so the right wing stood up and said, hey, let's get those transgender people that are reading stories to our kids in the third grade.

Let's attack them.

Like that was normal.

That was not happening.

None of this stuff was happening.

And they don't seem to ever have to try to make their case.

They just do it and then call you names if you disagree.

Let me ask you, this transgender stuff, where is the research that shows that this is healthy for children?

Where's the research?

I'll tell you where the research is, nowhere to be found in America, but you can find it in France and England and Sweden and Finland because those guys were on the same train.

And now research is being done and they're like, get off this train.

This is dangerous for our kids.

The reality is so simple.

I don't care if you're transgender.

I don't care.

I don't.

The left started coming for our kids.

There have been trans shows since the beginning of time.

Everything that Shakespeare ever wrote was

done by men and trans women because women couldn't perform.

There's been drag shows, drag queens, trans shows forever,

but nobody was forced to say that that is a woman

by science.

No, no, there's no science that says that.

None.

None.

There have been strip clubs forever.

Many Americans go to strip clubs.

I don't.

I think there's many more Americans that don't go to strip clubs.

They don't think that it's necessarily moral, but we don't attack strippers.

What's the difference?

I thought we hated all women.

Women strippers?

Well, we should go get them, right?

Because we hate women and we hate people who have different morals than us.

So why isn't there just strippers being clubbed by church members all over the world?

Okay?

Because we are tolerant.

In fact, too tolerant.

You don't threaten strippers or attack strippers.

Now, if strippers overnight,

all of a sudden, were in almost all of our schools doing pole dances in third grade,

I think we might have a problem with that.

The people who have been silent on strip clubs might start to talk about strippers and strip clubs, and they would wonder,

how is this good for the children?

And if those strippers said, Oh, stop it, you just hate strippers.

No, we would say, This isn't good for our children.

We'd question why all of this all of a sudden.

And parents would object.

And just like now, some would not dare, I say, some would say, This is good physical exercise.

We should have it in PE for first graders.

At least that argument would have some,

very flimsy, but some scientific evidence.

Drag shows for kids have no benefit for the kids or society.

They deny this.

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It is truly amazing what they want you to believe.

Notice Dylan Mulvaney uses girlhood, not womanhood, girlhood.

The fact that this 26-year-old man wants to be viewed as a girl

is exactly the thing that I think kind of pisses some people off.

You know, it's like, you're, what do you,

what do you mean?

Why, why as a man, do you want to be a little girl?

They love to accuse us of imagining everything.

They call us transphobic when we provide examples.

And there are so, so, so many examples.

Just off the top of my head, there's the Blues Clues Transgender Parade.

When did that happen?

The bearded woman wearing demon horns that is now a part of Sesame Street?

The influx of LGBTQ characters in every major Disney adventure?

I'm just talking about the stuff for for kids, let alone, have you tried to watch TV?

If you are trying to hold back the sea of insanity,

you can't do it.

They attack us repeatedly, our values, and then when we say, please stop, they leap backwards, fall on the ground like we've hit them with a car, and they're like, you're trying to murder me.

No,

you're manufacturing crisis after crisis and your partner in crime is the extreme media

and in the next breath they disregard our concerns and accuse us of engaging in cancel culture wait what

the right has always been the one that never boycotts

it's part of our problem We never say boo.

You boycott everything.

everything

no no no no we're the ones okay so the new york times the editorial board announced america has a free speech problem washington post said conservatives have long embraced cancel culture we have

it's

it's popular

really

So wait, you're blaming white religious conservatives for inventing cancel culture.

When did we invent that?

The 1640s?

Salem witch trials?

I mean, yes, in the 1950s, Christians stood in defense of Judeo-Christian values because they thought it would lead to a culture that looks a lot like this one.

If I would have said to you, in 1960, let alone four years ago, we're replacing with drag queen story hours in our school.

You would have called me a conspiracy theorist, but I couldn't have done that because I would have never thought of that because that was too crazy.

No, no, no.

It's normal.

No, no, it's normal.

No, it's not.

No, it's not.

And America, it's time to just stand up and quietly, peacefully just say, no, no, not going to do it.

You are in the majority.

This has nothing to do with transgenderism.

This has everything to do with your child or grandchild.

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They're not going to land this one.

It is going to go into the gulf, but somewhat controlled landing.

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We should have had separation by now.

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Wait, was it there?

As we saw, as we promised, an exciting end to the Star Tick inaugural integrated test flight.

So wait.

So wait.

It just blew up.

Yeah, that certainly seemed to be planned.

Yeah, but doesn't that seem

countertoitive?

Yeah, you know what?

Yeah,

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I mean, I think when you put people on there, you won't say, oh, it blew up.

Yeah.

I don't understand.

Okay, so the reason why this is so important, and it'll become more important when it actually goes to the moon and returns, and then the next step is with people.

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Okay,

this is the first step to a moon base.

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So you can build gigantic ships,

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That's the reason why.

Head on out, like anywhere, really.

You'd be able to explore in ways that

are conceived of, really.

They are going to use nuclear power, I would imagine,

up on the moon.

And they will build these ships to be a nuclear power plant.

I mean, things go wrong.

Environmentalists will shut that down.

You can't have nuclear nuclear power.

What about the moon's environment?

Yeah, right.

So

they will build it to be nuclear-powered or some other sustainable, you know, constantly renewable kind of energy.

Once you put that up on the moon and you get all the components and you build something,

you can be

constant voyagers.

Wow.

I mean, because I don't follow this stuff at all.

I really don't.

I mean, I know every Elon Musk launches something, it takes over Twitter for approximately two hours, and that's about my level of following it.

But this is what's the innovation here?

The innovation is the size.

No, the innovation is.

This is the biggest one ever built.

No, it's most powerful ever built.

Yes, most powerful.

This is bigger than the Saturn V that launched Apollo.

The

way that it can come back, those engines and everything else are so expensive.

They just blew it up.

Okay.

NASA used to just lose them in the water.

Yeah.

Okay.

But you can't use them ever again.

This is reusable.

Not this one.

Not this one.

So it's reusable.

So you can just refuel it.

And

it is able to have a turnaround of like three hours.

So it could launch things into space.

One of them could launch something into space, come back down, land on the platform, refuel, reload, put another payload on it, relaunch again.

Okay, that's, that's, that's, you've never had that.

It's incredible.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, Apollo 13, it was the anniversary, I think, of Apollo 13 making it back to Earth

this week.

And

Apollo 13, I mean,

there's no help coming.

You're stranded on the moon, you're stranded on the moon.

You're in space, you're in space.

Up until we had the space station, we have to, if there's something wrong, we can hitch a ride with another country to get up into space, but we don't have the ability to launch overnight.

Here, let's go.

This does.

This will take

what it costs per pound.

I don't know what it used to cost, but it was.

Really expensive, really expensive per pound.

In the tens of thousands of dollars you you launch a satellite you're paying a lot of money per pound okay per pound or probably per ounce it's it's per ounce but per pound um let's just say that per ounce i i'm making this number up but it just let's just say it was in the tens of thousands because i'm not sure where that goes

it's now

like

I think like 20, hang on, I looked up what the current or what the price will be, what they're projecting.

It'll be 57 cents per ounce.

That's a savings.

That's a savings.

Yeah.

I can't even ship mail at that rate.

I know.

I know.

So now you can take all of the infrastructure that you need up to the moon at a reasonable price.

Changes everything.

This is a remarkable day.

I was just listening to the

all-in podcast with David Sachs and his friends.

Yeah.

And they have been on this AI

rant for the last couple of weeks.

And these guys are really, really smart.

And it's weird because I feel like they're just discovering some of this stuff.

Like, wow, it's really changing things quickly.

You're like, yeah.

And today,

last week, they were saying.

We should have some sort of government regulation.

And David Sachs and a couple of others were like, no, no, no.

I don't think it's, you know, it's too soon.

And one of the other guys said, too soon.

What are we waiting for?

What do we wait?

At the rate of change, what are we waiting a month?

And

this week, it started with one of the guys going, okay, it's time now.

We have to have regulation.

That was seven days.

The reason why I said it is yesterday,

yesterday, somebody put a chat bot

onto a task to be a personal assistant and the things that it can do it's everything in your life everything in your life the things that it can do because it reached out to other bots and then started saying oh I

I need to send letters and organize mail that bot you can do it no human was involved I got to go find that technology.

Oh, I can get it here.

So that's part of it.

I need airline booking.

There's another bot out here.

I got it here.

And it, it created itself.

That was yesterday.

And David Sach said,

we are, we used to measure

giant leaps in years or decades.

For instance, how many years did it take to go from version one of the iPhone to version two?

It's been out since 2007.

What are we up to?

Version 11?

13 or 14?

Okay.

It's been around 13 or 14.

He said, we used to measure in decades, then in years.

We now are measuring in weeks

and days.

And I said out loud as I was listening to them, it's about to become hours.

It will become major improvements, major discoveries, major advances in technology in hours.

We are going to have a time where

something like we just saw, the spaceship lifting off, will be like, oh my gosh, I can't believe that that's what that just happened.

The next day, we won't be talking about it.

And not because there's some political scandal, but because there's something even more incredible the next day.

We're just at the beginning.

You are living in

the most remarkable time of human history right now.

You want to be positive about things?

I mean, you know, there's really

things you really

will worry about, you know, as we cross that bridge.

And that bridge is coming sooner than anybody thinks.

But

right now, the possibility

is truly endless.

You're about to think it and it becomes.

We are two years away from, there's no Pixar.

You don't need Pixar.

You'll be able to go, I love the Simpsons.

Hey,

have Bart comment on this and

Homer, he has this point of view on this topic of today's news.

Enter.

Done.

You got a half hour Simpsons episode.

Okay.

It's going to change everything, everything,

because that's just the entertainment side.

That's not the side that's making, you know, billions and billions and trillions of dollars.

Whole world's about to change.

It's really exciting.

Back in just a minute.

Exciting is one word for it.

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I had a conversation with AI today.

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And

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There is a disturbing story that you might not have heard that has come out about the Biden administration, the Department of Justice, just just charged four members of the African People's Socialist Party.

So, this is, I'm just assuming, a, you know, a leftist,

you know, BLM style that I have nothing in common with kind of group.

Okay, what were they arrested for?

For conspiring to act as agents of Russia by using speech and political actions in the way the DOJ DOJ says is

weaponized.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what?

They're from Florida and Missouri.

They

were doing the bidding, according to the DOJ,

of Russia

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How, exactly, how, when did we become the Soviet Union?

When did that, when did we start for an opinion

every single person in this audience should be standing with these people we don't agree with them i i assume we don't agree with anything i don't mean to assume your position

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Hello, Glenn.

How are you?

Hey, Glenn, great to be with you.

Thank you.

Look, can we start with the

U.S.

citizens that were charged with conspiring to

help Russia and hurt Ukraine?

Yeah, absolutely.

So

I find it to be a quite shocking indictment, and I think we have to realize it's part of this broader context.

that the Biden Justice Department, even before January 6th, when they were still on the transition, announced that a priority of theirs was a domestic war on terror, to take all the tools

that were used in the original war on terror against ISIS and al-Qaeda and repurpose them domestically against domestic enemies, which the U.S.

Security State now regards as the number one threat to American national security, not a foreign terrorist group, not a foreign government, but American dissidents.

And sometimes they're on the left, oftentimes on the right, but it's the same mindset, which is if you're really opposed to the establishment, meaning not that you support transstandard Republicans like Lindsey Graham or Mitt Romney, that's all totally fine, or Democrats like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, that's fine too.

Really outside of the establishment

orthodoxy, like these four American citizens are, they regard you as a criminal.

And this prosecution is brought under a law that says if you're a foreign agent of another country, and in this case the accusation is Russia, you have to register with the Department of Defense because these four citizens are acting on behalf of Russia, when criticizing the Obama administration, when opposing the war in Ukraine, when

condemning U.S.

militarism in general, that they were somehow acting as agents of the Kremlin, even though, Glenn, if you look at these people, these four defendants, they're very easily recognizable.

These are true black leftist radicals.

They're not the kind that joined the Democratic Party.

They come from the tradition of like Marcus Garvey and Fred Hampton.

The idea that they were saying anything they didn't believe because the Kremlin told them to, which is the requirement of the lot, is preposterous and it's designed to criminalize dissent.

So where is the press on this?

I mean, this is going after the left.

You know, when I saw this the other day, I saw that it's a black activist socialist group.

I thought,

wait, wait, what is happening?

Because that's more of a protected group from the Biden administration.

This should show that what people like you and I have been saying the whole time, no, no, no,

you are a useful idiot.

As long as you agree with them, they're fine.

But they'll eat you the minute you disagree with them.

Exactly.

I think this is the key to realize about this faction is this faction is not, say, Al Sharpton or Jamal Bowman or Hawkeen Jeffries, the kind of standard mainstream Democratic Party left that the Biden administration obviously loves and is comfortable with.

These are real radicals.

There used to be a real radical left movement in the United States.

They were pretty menacing, the things like the Black Panthers.

They believe in the Second Amendment.

They believe in the right to own guns.

And these are not the kinds of black leftists that Democrats like.

These are the ones they hate because they have a lot in common with right-wing populists, actually, about international organizations, about the war in Ukraine, about militarism, about the U.S.

security state.

They condemn all of that and they hate Joe Biden.

And these are real dissidents, even if you don't agree with them.

And that's the problem: this prosecution is designed to criminalize dissent.

So even if you're on the right, you're their counterparts on the right.

This is something that should really alarm you.

And again, where

is the mainstream press?

Why, why no, why is there no defense?

Why am I the one, you know, in the

more mainstream media that's going, hey, we need to support these guys?

Where are the defenders of the First Amendment on the left?

No, this is such a crucial question.

I'm so glad you asked it, and I'm also very glad you're covering this as well.

In censorship cases, you know, I have to say I report a lot on censorship and free speech, the tactic always is find somebody, either on the right or the left,

who is so dislikable, unlikable, that no one wants to defend their rights because you just don't want to get near them.

So the first person they ban is Milo Yiannopoulos and then Alex Jones, knowing that even a lot of people on the right don't want to really have anything to do with those people.

No mainstream Republican is going to defend Milo Yiannopoulos and Alex Jones.

And then all of a sudden, you have this precedent that says that anytime they do your views as dangerous, they can ban you from the internet.

And then when it starts coming for the people you are more comfortable with, you have nothing to say because you've allowed this precedent to get implanted.

Same here.

No Democrat, mainstream Democrat is going to stand up in defense of these people.

Like I said, these are real hardcore black radicals.

They hate the Democratic Party.

And the hope is that you allow this Justice Department prosecution to take place.

These are poor people.

They won't have good lawyers.

And now there will be a standard that further empowers the Justice Department to turn into felons anybody who is accused of being addicted.

Let me just say, for the purpose of accuracy, they found, you know, $2,000 here, $500 there, maybe $10,000 over five years that they claim emanated from the Russian government.

But the U.S.

State Department says that Russia, China, Iran are tyrannical because they count as foreign agents anybody who receives American funding.

We fund opposition groups in Russia, China, Iran all the time.

And the position of the U.S.

government is you're not really a foreign agent unless you're saying things that the government, the foreign government tells you to say.

You know, people like lobbyists on King Street who get paid by dictators.

These are people who are saying what they've believed for decades.

They're completely organic, but because they have a $2,500 check to an event that they organize, they claim nominated from the Russian government, now they want to turn them into felons.

Exactly what we say Russia, China, and Iran does that make them so despotic.

So this is actually a chance for the

constitutionalist right to actually stand up and make this an issue because we have nothing in common with these people.

And I don't want anyone silenced.

Anyone.

And this is a chance for us to stand up and do what the press will never do for somebody on the right.

They should have stood up with Alex Jones and said, we don't like the guy.

We don't like the guy.

But he has a right to say what he's going to say.

The same thing we should be now doing on this side, because A, it'll just confuse the hell out of them, and it will show that we

actually have principles behind what we say.

You have to have principles behind what you say.

Otherwise, what it seems like you're saying it's just kind of a special pleading for your own allies.

And I'm really glad to hear that because as you know, as well as anybody, Glenn, it is very common for people on the right to be accused of being Russian agents.

That is probably the go-to accusation by establishment liberals and kind of the never come point of the Republican Party that accuses everybody who disagrees with them of being a Kremlin agent, of serving the Russian government.

And if you now have got the

Biden Justice Department, expand expand what that means and allow them to turn you into a felon, not just ruin your reputation or ban you from social media, but prosecute you criminally under federal law, that is an extremely dangerous process, including for lots of people who have different ideologies than these defendants.

All right.

Glenn, I want to talk to you about the

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the DeShara case, which

Glenn, it just, there's something wrong with this case.

And I know you've been following it.

I've been following your writings and your Twitter feed.

I think we agree on a lot of this stuff.

Let's start with the actual,

you can't even call it hacking,

but getting into the system that this 21-year-old kid supposedly did.

From every source I have that knows these systems, they say it's impossible for him to get the documents that he had

and just and get away with it for as long as he did.

Now,

if

that's true,

then and he did just get them and he's working by himself, then there's a bigger issue here.

What's broken?

And nobody seems to be talking about that.

So let's take that one issue.

Did he do this alone?

Did he actually, was he the guy all by himself?

So I'll tell you what I know, and obviously I agree totally.

There's a very strange case for so many reasons, and I think skepticism is warranted for every claim being made about it.

When, you know, I think all of us are kind of inculcated to oppose the idea that people can leak top secret documents from the U.S.

government on their own against the law because it seems like an irresponsible thing to do.

Theoretically, it could put people in danger if it exposes the names of covert agents and the like.

So all of us kind of just immediately, when we hear someone make classified top secret documents, we think that doesn't sound like a good thing to do.

The problem is twofold.

Number one, our government abuses the secrecy colours it has in ways that are impossible to overstate.

Almost everything our government does immediately gets stamped classified, secret, or top secret, which makes it a felony for anyone to disclose what our government is doing.

When I looked on the Snowden documents, you know, I spent a year and a half going through hundreds of thousands of top secret documents, and the vast majority of them were worthless.

They were banal.

Things like how do you get a parking credential or ask for vacation days got marked secrets and they're told with illegal delete.

The other thing is, over a million people have access to the most basic kind of classified material.

The same classification that he had,

the same authority he had, and nothing more.

Millions.

Right?

Millions.

So

how can we even call these documents secret when you're making them available to a million or two million people who work, you know, not just within our government, but within all those corporations that are joined at the hip to the U.S.

military state, like C.E.

Gallen Hamilton and all those private contractors, Raytheon, General Dynamics, they all have access to this gigantic database of things that are supposedly so classified.

In this case, though, there do seem to be some really sensitive documents that are marked top secret for good reason, including things like showing that Biden has deployed special forces on the ground in Ukraine, despite telling us that he wasn't doing that, that do raise questions of how a 21-year-old in the Massachusetts National Guard could possibly have gained access to these materials and then spent months putting them on the internet without being detected, given that we all live in a U.S.

surveillance state, let alone people who have this kind of a job.

It is very mysterious, I agree.

Okay, so from what I've been

told

to dumb it down for me, they said, imagine a house.

He has the key to the front door, but everything else is compartmentalized, and you have to have a key to each door inside.

Just because you can get into the front house doesn't mean you can get into

the safe, doesn't mean you can get into the liquor cabinet or any of the other doors around.

He doesn't have any of those codes or classifications to be able to get in to find these documents.

And even when you do find them, you kind of are find the doors, as I understand it, you'll have a better understanding.

You can't just mill around and like, hey, here's a whole stack of documents.

You kind of have to know where, what you're looking for.

Is that true or not?

Yeah, that's a perfect metaphor.

Yeah, that's a perfect metaphor.

When I say there are more than a million people with access to classified documents, of course, I do not mean that they have access to every classified document, right?

So there's not a million people with access to, say, the nuclear codes

or specific troop movements that the generals in Ukraine are helping the Ukrainians engineer.

Those are compartmentalized, and far fewer people have access to those.

The higher you go up in the secrecy or sensitivity level.

The issue, though, here is I really question

how sensitive these documents actually are.

Like I said, they don't contain the names of any covert agents.

And you have media outlets, the New York Times and the Washington Post, which, on the one hand, helped expose this kid.

They found him, they hunted him down

over the state and the FBI.

Hang on, I want to take this piece by piece.

We're going to come back to that.

So go ahead.

Okay, yeah, and so now he's out of the way, and they are using this stash of documents.

The Washington Post has branded them, you know, exclusive, the Discord leaks, and they're going them out every day by doing reporting, which implicitly means there are things in these documents that are journalistically worthwhile, that are in the public interest to know.

It's just very odd that they started off being leaked, and now suddenly the media outlets closest to the CIA and the Pentagon, the Washington Post and the New York Times, have exclusive control over them and are kind of going them out in a way that the government seems very comfortable with.

It's all about now promoting U.S.

narratives as opposed to doing anything that actually exposes incriminating information about the Biden administration.

That's what I find out about it.

So do you believe this kid acted alone or there was somebody else involved with better access

that was pushing some sort of a narrative that they wanted pushed, somebody wanted pushed, or is he just a...

just a stupid kid that did this and was like, I just want to be popular with my friends?

Yeah, I mean, of course, you know,

whatever I say is somewhat speculative since I don't actually know.

But my view is you would be surprised at how sloppy the U.S.

government is with even pretty sensitive secrets.

Remember, Edward Snowden was 29 years old when he walked out with a massive archive from the most sensitive agency, which was the NSA.

Chelsea Manning was an Army private and managed to send to WikiLeaks gigantic amounts of information.

And it seems like what he did was photocopy documents that were laying on a table.

I would not at all be surprised if there were other people working with him because, again, the way these leaks ended up happening seems to boost the U.S.

agenda and not undermine anything the Biden administration is doing.

But I also wouldn't be surprised if he was able to do this because the thing our government does with these classified documents is very reckless.

Okay.

So let's go to it.

I've got about 90 seconds, so we'll just be one minute.

We're just going to be able to really kind of ask the question and begin.

But I want to talk now about the media.

It was Michael Issakov, who I think broke the story of who this kid was, right?

Wasn't it, Stu?

Was it Issakov?

Who Isakoff has a long story in Ukraine?

And I've never seen the media

lead the manhunt.

They weren't following.

It seemed as though they were leading the manhunt for it.

It was very bizarre.

I'd like to get your comments on the media and then the reaction of the government and putting in new spying techniques because of this emergency.

Glenn Greenwald joins us in a minute.

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We're talking about the leaks that came from the Air National Guard guy up in Boston.

And I want to turn to the media and their role in this.

First of all, Glenn, kind of unrelated.

If you had been lied to

and you were an innocent person, you really believed it because they convinced you.

If you had believed the whole Russia

stuff and you had heard from all your sources, no, no, no, it's true.

When you found out that it was not only a lie, but they knew it to be a lie, would you ever trust those sources again?

Of course not.

I mean, in fact, Len, you know, this is like something you learn in Journalism 101, is that the highest duty of a journalist is to protect your sources.

The only time that it's justified, not even justified, but actually required, to expose your sources is when they purposely feed you lies, when they use you to deceive the American people by disseminating lies through your journalism.

And yet all of these journalists who work in these big media corporations got constantly used and manipulated to spread outright lies during Russia Gate, and they seem happy about it because it achieved the political outcome they wanted, and that's what these journalists are about.

And I'm pretty sure that they're probably being fed the same stuff about this

from the same

people.

And they seem to, you know, not expose the people who are sources that are

lying to them, but instead instead attack and do all the work to find the guy who should be protected, kind of, as a whistleblower.

I mean, I don't think that's what his goal was, but I mean, that's the way it would have been treated before.

The press would have protected him, not hunted for him.

And journalists are really our only job.

The reason why there's a press freedom guarantee in the Constitution is because we're supposed to be an adversarial force against the government, against the executive branch and all of its power by bringing transparency to it.

So we rely on people like this, regardless, sometimes they have bad motives, but they still are the people who allow us to show the American people what the government is really doing.

When the government is lying to people, these people enable us to get the proof and show that these are the people we're supposed to cultivate and protect.

The last thing you're supposed to do is go on a hunt and use Jeff Bezos' resources at the Washington Post or the Sulzberger families at the New York Times to do the FBI's job for them.

And yet the reality is these media corporations serve the U.S.

security state above all else.

That is their real ideology.

They're leftists and liberals on culture war issues, but on these issues, it's the FBI, the CIA, the Pentagon.

That's who they serve.

So it's not a lack of curiosity.

It is just, they're just in the bag.

That is their main ideology.

I mean, all of Russia Gate, which dominated our political culture for four years, came from those agencies.

Right.

Now,

the lack of curiosity drives me nuts.

The Nord Stream pipeline.

Wait, what?

How do we know where this leaker is, but we couldn't find out of probably 100 people who leaked the Dobbs case?

And there's no curiosity about it.

You posted something the other day about Nashville that you had two retainer retainer letters coming from two different attorney firms in Nashville.

Their job was to go to the Nashville PD

and get the manifesto.

They both backed out at the last minute.

What happened there?

Yeah, I mean, why don't we have that manifesto showing what really motivated some maniac psychopath to go into a Christian school and murder three young children and three employees of that school when usually in these mass shooting cases, the media loves these manifestos if they get to blame right-wing

students or activists or journalists.

But in this case, there's no interest in this manifesto on the part of the media.

So we wanted to sue the FBI and the Tennessee law enforcement authorities to get it.

And two major law firms that originally said they would represent us and doing that at the last minute backed out with very sketchy explanations about why.

There's obviously a lot of political pressure to keep this hidden.

So what are you doing about it?

Finding others to represent you?

Yeah, after I, you know, kind of went public and sounded the alarm, there were a couple of firms in Tennessee, not in Nashville notably, but in the middle of the state who are very, very good and said they'd be happy to represent us and now we've retained them and we're moving forward with litigation and we'll see whether we can wrench this document out of their hands.

Is that normal?

that you have to fight for like a manifesto because everybody is like I don't know if we should publish a manifesto we don't want to spread it blah blah blah.

But I don't remember not being able to get one.

Yeah, first of all, law firms are businesses, right?

So usually if you call a law firm and you say, hey, I'd like to.

Whoops.

You there?

We lost him.

Oh, it's the Biden.

They're happy to do it.

And yet in this case, you know, they were like, no, we can't.

And exactly, usually we see these manifestos, and yet, very strangely in this case, because of the politics, it's being put in and said.

this is uh with the attorneys this is not unusual i i oh this must be four or five years ago i had an attorney firm one of the best in washington uh for freedom of speech uh and i'd had him for 20 years we had fought cases together we were working on a case they dropped me of course they got a new client i think it was google and a couple of others but they immediately dropped me and and i'm like dude what what's happening they're like uh just uh you know and between the lines, they were telling me, we have other clients that's causing us friction to represent you.

And I gave them a John Adams speech.

But these attorneys,

what are they doing?

You've got to stand up against the power.

There doesn't seem to be a lot of spine, even in our attorneys now.

I mean, it gets back, you know, I used to be an attorney before I was a journalist, and it gets back to what we were talking about at the beginning, which is that the thing that always drove America was the spirit of dissent.

It's like what drove our innovation and creativity, the idea of thinking differently or breaking from the pact.

Those values were cherished, and they were protected under the Constitution.

And now conformity and the requirement to sort of serve these political orthodoxies is so overwhelming, and people seem very willing to submit to them because the punishments have been turned up for refusing to do so.

I'm talking to the guys at the Daily Wire next hour.

Somebody went in and hacked Matt Walsh's

email for the last 20 years.

I mean, he was 16 20 years ago.

And they're saying they're going to, you know, release it all.

The entire staff needs private security.

What's happening with the left and how violent everything that the right is accused of

is happening on an almost daily basis.

And I tell you, Glenn, I think that somebody's, some journalist is going to lose their life.

And I don't mean journalists like the old school.

I think people like you and me and Daily Wire and anybody who's standing up against anything or just for the truth,

I worry about the people that are being wound up.

The American left, the American liberal left, loves to believe they're the oppressed class, they're the victim, they're the ones who have the power.

The reality is that is the hegemonic force in America.

The institutions of authority are on their side.

And they have such a righteousness as a result that they believe anything and everything they do in pursuit of their political agenda is justified censorship, lying, and even the use of violence, which is why Kamala Harris went to Nashville and didn't even meet with those families because they won't even condemn that person.

Because anything done in the name of fighting the right or conservatism or dissidence, they regard as justified.

It's frightening times.

Glenn, thank you for all your hard work over the years.

Always great to be with you.

Yep, great to be with you.

Glenn Greenwald.

You know,

in talking about what's happening, because we have Michael Knowles on with us in a few minutes.

And,

you know, what's happening is

you're not forced

to look at evidence.

You're being forced to comply.

They don't ask for a conversation.

These things are just introduced overnight and you better deal with it.

So, I mean,

who knew, in fact, CRT,

all of the transgender stuff,

all of the, you know,

your kids can be taken away from you

because they want to butcher themselves.

All of this stuff happened overnight.

It wasn't a slow drip, drip, drip.

It was a slow drip, drip, drip for a long time.

And then all of a sudden the water faucets were open overnight.

And we're all like, wait a minute, is this happening?

It happened so fast that people in the media got away, at least for a little while, saying, this is just...

This is just Republicans making stuff up.

That's not happening.

Well, yes, it was.

And now everybody knows.

And they didn't bring it in and say, hey, let's discuss this.

It was a demand and an outrageous one.

And then when we say no,

they accuse us of violence or cancel culture.

It's not cancel culture.

This is demand culture.

They have torn down the statues.

They are erasing history.

They have

sullied good people's names.

They've given evil people sainthood and saints they call evil.

People like Karl Marx, he loved the N-word and colonization as much as he hated Jews.

What's not to like about the guy?

So we vote with our wallet.

We're not boycotters.

Never have been.

The left does.

And now with like the Bud Light thing, you can't even vote with your wallet because that makes you a hater.

Then what can you do?

How can you express yourself?

Well, that's the whole point.

You can't.

They're making demands.

They're not asking for a conversation or come together.

They're making demands.

Today, this is what you will do and you will submit you will drop to your knees and worship them so we talked about these black socialists here in Florida were arrested by our DOJ

for coming out against the war in Ukraine

wait a minute that's freedom of speech what what are you talking about

That's not inconsistent for those people.

But you have to drop to your knees and worship them.

They want you to hand over your children, your marriage, your patriotism, your history, your property, ultimately your life.

Here's the difference between

those kinds of people and the rest of us.

I just want to be left alone.

And I want justice and truth and I want all that.

But I basically just want, just let me live my life.

They want you to vanish from the earth.

That's the difference.

If they were alone in a room with, say, J.K.

Rowling, do you not think that they would tear her limb from limb?

Of course they would.

Then they would shriek in our direction and accuse us of murder.

It's not acceptable.

It's not rational.

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You know,

I want to look into those two guys in Florida that have been arrested.

They're black nationalist socialists, so they're not on my side at all, most likely not on your side either.

They are, you know, they're Antifa types.

However, the DOJ has just gone after them and they are prosecuting them now for felonies, for memes

and things they said about Ukraine.

Meme felonies?

Meme felonies.

Is there a meme felony clause in the Constitution?

It is.

Yeah.

Is it on the back?

Is it in the Constitution?

It's called the back.

You need the special Ben Franklin glasses.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Only

Nicholas Cage can read it.

Oh, okay.

But they brought him in for this case.

Anyway,

we have got to stand for people that we do not agree with.

And I want to look into these guys

and

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You can't start arresting people for what memes

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Hello, America.

Last night I walked off stage 19 finishing the Wednesday night special, and my producer said, Are you paying attention?

Have you heard what's going on at Daily Wire?

And I got the briefing that Matt Walsh, his email has been hacked into, and they have 20 years

of his email.

Just so you know, 20 years ago, I think he was 16.

You got anything you said at 16 that maybe you wouldn't want published on the front page?

Yeah, yeah.

So they just took all that.

Then at the same time that was going going on,

Michael Knowles

was at U-Pit, I think, and police found an incidentary device

that blew up.

The crowds were

basically chanting death to Michael.

They burned him in effigy, and he had to be rushed out.

Just another day, if you happen to believe in something that this administration or the popular culture doesn't doesn't believe in.

So sick and tired of it.

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My good friend, Michael Knowles.

How are you, Michael?

I'm doing well.

I'm doing better than that effigy of me.

Yeah.

Pleased to report I am not on fire, totally alive.

Yeah.

Well, I just wanted to reach out to you and everybody at the Daily Wire, let you know that Our prayers are with you guys.

We've been there, done that.

We know what it's like.

And anything we can do to help you on any front, Michael, let me know.

Well, thank you, Glenn.

I really appreciate it because we're trying to take it in stride.

This is just par for the course, but

the attacks are increasing, especially what they did to Matt.

I mean, getting...

Getting this guy's entire private correspondence going back 20 years.

And why?

Why, Glenn?

It's all because of this one issue.

It's because we have had the temerity to say that boys can't really be girls and we shouldn't be pumping little kids full of hormones and cutting off their body parts.

And because of this, the threats have gone absolutely through the roof.

And I think it just exposes how ridiculous one of the classic lines from the left is, which is what the left always says is, why do you care?

Why do you care so much if we pretend that men can really be women?

Why do we care?

Well, I don't think we're the ones who seem so fanatical about this and so obsessed.

You're the ones hacking into people's cell phones.

You're the ones throwing off incendiary devices.

Call it what it is.

It's an explosive at a public debate over transgenderism, burning people in effigy.

I don't think that we're the ones that started this fight.

We're just trying to speak common sense and reason.

And if you guys are so afraid of common sense and reason, that tells me this is exactly the fight that we've got to be in.

So, Michael,

you're in Nashville,

which

I told you you guys should have come to Dallas.

But you're in Nashville where you had a shooter, and now you can't get

the manifesto from the Nashville police.

I mean, Glenn Greenwald tried to hire two firms.

He finally got one.

Two firms, they said they would represent him to get that released.

And they called back like an hour later later, and they're like, Yeah, we're not going to do that.

And it was all because of political pressure.

Right.

In defense of the Nashville police, I strongly suspect that they're not the ones that are holding this up.

I strongly suspect that the middle, the minute that federal government got involved, I think probably the political pressure is coming all the way down from the White House.

Well, it's time for good men to stand up and good women.

The attacks that are coming

on you guys, as I walked out of the studio last night,

I just thought

somebody's going to get killed.

Somebody's going to die.

And it's, I mean, we're entering a time of assassinations.

And we have, thank God, not had any of the stuff that was happening in the 60s.

But that happened because of zealots.

And we are seeing people that are so bat crap crazy that I'm afraid they're going to kill somebody.

And this is exactly what the media has been saying is going to happen from the right.

And we're damn close to it

here from the left.

And the media are encouraging it.

We should be very clear about that.

This is why the media lied about what I said at CPAC when I said that for the good of society and especially for the good of the people who identify as transgender, we've got to eradicate this ideology because the ideology is false and it's really harming people.

And

if the media thought that what I said was so objectionable, they would have just printed what I said.

They know that pretty much everybody agrees with that.

And so they lied and they said that I called to eradicate people.

And I can't think of any explanations to why they would lie other than to call for violence against us.

And they've gotten what they've wanted.

I mean, you're seeing these things increase.

I always try to take this in stride and with a grain of salt.

I think people mouth off on the internet all the time, and they think they're a lot tougher than they really are.

But now we're seeing fruits of this kind of a threat.

And specifically on this issue,

we're seeing people who are not in control of their reason.

We're talking about people who are not the most rational.

And so we might think, oh, people will come to their senses.

They're mouthing off a little bit, but it's no big deal.

Not on this issue.

No, there's no sense.

Anyone who's dealt with it can see.

Yeah, there's no

census to come to on this particular issue.

And the media, but also the administration, by having a group of children killed and then the vice president come to Nashville and

sit with the family of the killer and not the children

is

pretty remarkable.

So if I am somebody who is in the transgender extremist movement and I feel like, you know, I can do anything, you know, including kill people, that just sent the message to me that I'm right.

I'm right.

This was a message we just saw today.

It came out from the Biden administration that days after the Nashville shooting, where all of the evidence seems to suggest that the transgender ideology played a role here.

Obviously, it was transgender-identified shooter targeting and killing Christian kids.

Days after that shooting, the Biden administration, through the EEOC, sent out a message saying that increasingly trans people are at risk.

They just will not give up the line.

No evidence, no events can dissuade them.

And so

the message is clear from the White House.

The message is clear that we are behind this absurd ideology, and you can do anything you want to defend it.

Michael,

where do you think this goes from here?

I was just reading an old monologue from Rush Limbaugh today, and he said,

we're at the point of a national split.

We don't have anything in common anymore.

There are no root principles that we can be in common.

And this is before he died.

Where are we?

What's coming?

When I was a student, I got to meet Justice Scalia, and we asked him about certain basic issues in in the country.

At the time, I think we were talking about marriage.

And we said, can there be a federalist solution here on this issue?

And the states just pick however they want to pick.

And he said, while I love federalism and I love states' rights, there are certain issues that seem so fundamental that we need to come to an agreement nationally.

Slavery would be an issue.

Marriage, the fundamental building block of politics, would be one of those issues.

And I think even more fundamental than that, of course, would be what a man is and what a woman is.

If a nation cannot agree on that, then a nation cannot agree on anything at all.

We're seeing this play out right now in Colorado.

Colorado has become a sanctuary state for transing the kids.

And I don't think this will remain a state issue.

If we cannot communicate with one another, if our speech is no longer intelligible, then we cannot have a self-governing republic, the premise of which is that we can talk about issues, perceive the truth, and determine how we all want to live together.

That is breaking down and accelerating before our eyes.

I thought of two phrases yesterday from the founders, Franklin, a republic, ma'am, if you can keep it.

And the other, I think, was

John Adams.

This system

is wholly unfit for an irreligious

and

what did he say?

Immoral people.

Immoral people.

I mean,

I thought of both of those yesterday and I thought, boy, they're right.

I mean, we have these freedoms, but if we don't have some governor on ourselves,

this is what happens.

You have riots in the streets in Chicago, and nobody says anything.

These are teenagers.

If they don't learn now,

they've got, you know, if they're lucky, another five years before they're shot,

you know, or the rest of their life to go.

What are they going to be like when they're 40 if they make it?

I'm so glad you brought up the John Adams quote because a lot of people misunderstand it.

I think a lot of people think that that John Adams quote is just a nice platitude about how you should go to church.

We should all be nice to each other.

What John Adams is saying here is he's simply describing a fact about the Republic.

He's just observing that if a people does not have a shared understanding of what's good and bad and right and wrong and true and false, if we do not make a conscious effort to pursue the good and to avoid evil, this is a

basic requirement of statecraft, then the Republic will break down.

And that's just a fact.

You can rely on it like any other scientific fact.

And now, unfortunately, we appear to be proving that right through our own experiment.

I sense

with some,

I hope this is correct and I hope you're sensing it too.

I am sensing a deeper understanding from the right

on

how fast this can fall apart on us, how close we are

and how

meek and humble and peaceful we need to be.

I've been afraid of the right striking out, but I'm only afraid of the lone person

like the trans shooter.

I'm only afraid of that one crazy out there.

I think that we're starting to understand

the right is, that we're dealing with evil.

Our enemies are not our neighbors.

It's evil.

And it's almost like the entire nation is possessed.

It is.

I don't know how you can describe it, especially when we're talking about an ideology that tells you to hate your body and sterilize yourself.

And hate your neighbor.

And hate your neighbor and hate your country and be destructive and burn things down.

You're so right, though, Glenn, on people waking up and seeing how quickly this can happen.

I'm reminded of that Ernest Hemingway quote from The Sun Also Rises when he's asked how he went bankrupt.

And he says, gradually, then suddenly.

Yes.

Things can slowly decline for a while, but then once you cross a certain threshold, once we no longer know what a man is or a woman is, once we no longer know what our country is, things can decay very quickly.

It's happened many times before in history.

We are not magically immune to that.

If we don't make a conscious, concerted effort to preserve our society, our community, we're going to lose it.

I said

years ago, I said, this is all going to build up, and then it's going to just...

come like a thief in the night.

And you'll have so many friends who will say, when did this happen?

Right now.

Right now is when it's happening.

You weren't paying attention, but it's been happening for years and

you chose not to look at it.

So don't come surprised.

You just chose not to look at it.

And I think that's the choice a lot of Americans are making, but I'm glad I think there are more Americans that are saying, wait, I should probably pay attention to what's going on here and are getting more and more involved.

Michael, thank you.

And also, I want to thank you as

a non-Catholic, but thank you as a Catholic for standing up for your faith,

being a great representation of your faith.

I have heard you recently call for peace and,

you know, all of the teachings of Jesus.

And I just can't thank you enough, Michael.

I'm proud.

to call you a friend.

Well, thank you, Glenn.

I appreciate that, and the feeling is mutual.

And let's just pray as that's largely what we can do right now.

Let's pray that there is a happy solution to what is now an urgent and increasingly dire problem.

Thank you very much.

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So, you know, we're going to do our Friday, Good News Friday.

And I think our next guest we should move to tomorrow because it's such great news.

I got two or three pieces of great news just yesterday.

And I mean great news.

And I can't wait to share it with you.

There's one thing that is,

I mean, we all stood around when we were talking about it and we were mind-blown.

We were like, wait, wait.

And what else?

Wait.

And this too?

It's some really good news.

That'll be on Good News Friday tomorrow.

Stu joins me for that, which he's always, he's like Eeyore.

I am.

That's an interesting summary.

Isn't that exactly what Eeyore would say?

I am.

I am.

By the way, Michael's book, Speechless, which came out, I don't know, a year or so ago, is quite good.

It's an interesting read.

He's a really smart guy.

Very smart.

And his focus a lot in the book is about language and how important it is.

And how a lot of times we seed ground in that world without realizing it's not solely in the world of language.

You've said this for years and years.

You control the language, control the argument.

And we often

just kind of accept these liberal, progressive changes in language and sort of adopt them.

Often mockingly, we kind of just go along with it and we laugh at it for a while and then all of a sudden it's just there.

I mean,

you read these stories like from the New York Times over the past couple of days talking about gender affirming care.

And you think as if no one in history had ever disagreed with this concept that you could just switch genders at the snap of a finger.

And it's, you know, they started with the slow boil of, no, there's a difference between gender and sex.

What?

I've never, wait, what?

Gender?

What are you talking about?

And gender is fluid.

No, no, no, it's not.

And so it's, you know, when you're making the case to people about this, I'm not against transgenderism.

I'm not against transgender people.

I am for the truth.

That's what I'm for.

I, you know, if this were all true, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

I would say, okay, well, all those things are true.

I don't agree with the behavior or whatever.

But

we could agree that it was at least true.

Now, is it helpful and healthy to embrace it?

That's another discussion.

This is, no, it's true, and you will admit that it's true.

I'm fighting for the truth.

I'm not fighting against anybody.

I am fighting for the verifiable scientific truth.

If you lose that, you got nothing left.

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Hmm.

Still, I'm having a.

Having a hard time figuring this one out.

On Wednesday, yesterday, Washington Times reported that starting May 1st, oh, wow, that's right around the corner, Americans purchasing a new home or refinancing their

existing mortgage can expect to pay higher mortgage rates and monthly fees if they have a higher credit score.

Wait.

What?

That's a fundamental reversal of all economic theory.

You want to make the people who who have the better credit scores pay the higher rates?

Yeah, no, they're going to have you pay a higher rate and higher monthly fees because you have a higher credit score.

Americans with lower credit scores and smaller down payments are going to be given better rates.

So basically, up is down and down is up.

Or stealing from the rich to give to the poor.

Redistribution of wealth.

Let me ask you this.

And look, I haven't put too much thought into this, but let's throw out a possible issue that could be associated with this.

What would your incentive be to maintain a high credit score if what it was going to do was to punish you with higher rates?

Why would you pay your bills on time if the incentives reversed from where they are now?

Are you either

white

or are you

a gay, hermaphrodite,

black, trans

lizard?

What's my incentive of remaining white?

If I can just change, perhaps I should go to that second choice, which was too long for me to remember all the details of.

So I, you know, it's weird because

this is what I'm trying to figure out.

Wasn't there something like this that happened 2004 five six and seven

where they were okay they were in

incentivizing they were incentivizing banks to give loans to people who couldn't really afford the houses yeah although at least in that case

they weren't punishing the people who were paying their bills yeah right like they were just handing out mortgages to people who did not qualify for them and that caused the economic crisis.

If you don't understand the concept that socialism and all of this stuff is just, it's not going to make anybody happy, we're all going to be equally miserable.

Okay.

You won't own anything.

This is how it begins.

You're taking away through now a different kind of tax.

How do they even pass this?

How does Biden even get this done?

It's crazy.

And when you say pass this,

what does that mean?

Pass it.

Nothing.

Pass it would signify there was a vote by elected representatives

to make this occur.

That's not what happened, of course, because that's not how we do things these days.

Right.

So I'm sorry that I misled you on thinking that it was some constitutional way of getting an understandable misstatement there.

Yeah.

Okay.

So we have that story.

Then I have an IRS supervisor has told lawmakers that he has information that suggests,

but this is from the Wall Street Journal, suggests the Biden administration is improperly handling the criminal investigation into President Biden's son, Hunter Biden, and is seeking whistleblower protections.

The letter sent to Congress on Tuesday says a career internal revenue service criminal supervisory special agent has information that would contradict sworn testimony by senior political appointees.

The supervisor also has information about a failure to mitigate clear conflicts of interest in the ultimate disposition of the case.

The supervisor has details that show preferential treatment.

No.

Wait, did I read that wrong?

The IRS.

This whistleblower says is showing preferential treatment to Biden's son?

Hmm.

No.

Preferential treatment and politics in properly infecting decisions and protocols that would normally be followed by career law enforcement professionals in similar circumstances if the subject were not politically connected.

The letter says the supervisor has been overseeing an ongoing and sensitive investigation of a high-profile, controversial subject since early 2020.

He doesn't name that person, but the investigation as at issue is hunter biden

so we're now going to see another whistleblower and thank god if this guy's telling the truth thank god that there are some people that are blowing the whistle on this i mean you just can't have

uh

you know

two

two uh justice systems Can't do it.

By the way, did you hear the ATF director?

Yesterday.

Do we have this cut by any chance?

The ATF director

was

ATF director was asked if he could define

an assault weapon.

Okay.

You can't even get a woman right at this point.

They're going to be able to do an assault weapon.

Right.

Can you just tell us what

an assault weapon is?

Can you do that?

Keep it short, 15 seconds.

He said,

hmm.

Well, I'll tell you, I can go shorter than 15 seconds because, you know, if Congress wishes to take me up on that, I think Congress will have to do the work.

But there would, you know, we would be there to provide technical assistance.

Can you tell me what the hell you're even talking about?

This is over 15 seconds on that.

Yeah, he says, well, I, unlike you, am not a firearms expert to the same extent as you may be

wow hold it just a second so the head of the ATF

can't define it

not enough of an expert maybe he's more of an A and T guy you know maybe he doesn't get to the F all that often you know maybe he's been focusing maybe he's been drinking a lot of

right yeah and they're like that's how you get the alcoholic to get the get the gig here he

As a gun owner of many different types and a 20-year military veteran, I have some expertise in weaponry and self-defense weapons.

What could you, in 15 seconds, would you define an assault weapon for me?

So

if you go

15 seconds, I'll just interrupt you.

So I'll go shorter than that because I honestly, I do think that's a, if Congress wishes to take that up, I think Congress would have to do the work, but we would be there to provide technical assistance.

I, unlike you, I'm not a firearms expert to the same extent as you may be, but we have people at ATF who can talk about

velocity of firearms, what damage different kinds of firearms cause, so that whatever determination you chose to make would be an informed one.

Oh, okay.

So there is no real definition.

It goes beyond black gun bad.

Okay.

All right.

But we can make it up.

Kind of like can you define a woman?

Well, no, I mean, I'm not an expert expert on that.

I'm not an expert on that.

You know, I'm not a doctor, so I couldn't describe, you know, what a woman is in any way, shape, or form.

It really kind of depends on, you know, how we define that.

Oh.

Okay, no, it doesn't.

No, it doesn't.

No.

Assault weapon.

They were not, no, they're modern sporting rifles.

And when I say modern, when's the last time you heard anyone use the word modern?

Right?

Nobody's like, oh, it's very modern.

You know why it's called the modern sporting rifle?

Because it was out in the 1950s.

It's amazing.

I can't remember which paper it was.

It was the Washington Post or the New York Times or one of the big mainstream publications did this thing about like, we're going to show you ads for the AR-15.

We're going to show, let's go back and look at how they've advertised this product.

And like the idea was to show you, of course, that like they are advertising it as a killing machine.

You know, it was one of these type of things.

And they had a what the hell is a gun if not a killing machine?

You know, I'm kind of buying that.

If I go in and I buy a gun for my own protection or I'm going deer hunting and it doesn't kill the object I need to stop,

I think then I could actually sue sue the firearm maker.

Right.

It does not mean you're going out to try to kill people.

The point of it is, of course, if you need to because someone's attacking you, it will work in that fashion, right?

Correct.

So they go through this long series of ads going back to, you know, the very early days of the 1950s.

You said 1960s.

It was 1950s.

They have all the way back to 1957 was the first prototype.

But they go back to the first ad they show.

And what have you heard about the AR-15 all this time?

It's a weapon of war, right?

It's a weapon of war, a weapon of war.

And we keep saying, no, that's not how it was developed at all.

The first ad they cite,

a superb hunting partner, Colts new AR-15 sporter.

It is exactly what we've been saying this entire time.

They're trying to prove that over time, the AR-15 ads went from a hunting situation into, oh, the brutal murder people.

But, like, again, like, they don't even prove that, of course.

Obviously, there's a hundred ways to go on the story, but like, they've been telling us forever this was developed as a weapon of war in their own publication.

They're showing the ads, saying it is designed for hunting.

They've been saying, you don't need an AR-15 to hunt.

They just showed us the initial ad in 1964

about a modern sporting rifle, a superb hunting partner.

If you're a hunter, a camper, or a collector.

They go on and on.

If you're ready for a new hunting adventure, this is them.

This isn't us saying

that.

Wait a minute.

What are you hunting?

Maybe you're hunting your mass.

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This is the Glenn Beck program.

Well, it was...

It was good to see that Fetterman was back at work.

You know, it's been a while.

It's been a while.

But, you know, he immediately went to work as the chairman of a committee.

Don't even care what committee it is.

A chairman of a committee.

A guy who we all know they announced he can process things, but he can't handle chaos, crosstalk.

That's the guy with the gavel.

Order, order, order.

He has it now.

And again,

I would say he's been at work for three months, but of course he didn't show up to almost all of those days.

Well, he was depressed.

Right.

So, okay.

Maybe day one doesn't come back into

committee to run the farm bill, which is, by the way,

the best person to run the farm bill.

We are going to have a tractor in every pot and a chicken in every garage.

That is what we will wind up with if he does this.

Yeah, I mean, yeah.

I mean,

look, if we could just get him to be assisted by Feinstein.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, it's a dynamic difference.

What's the difference between him and Feinstein?

Come on.

Come on.

I don't.

Come on.

It's a no-brainer.

Oh, my.

We do have audio of him coming back.

This is

his big return.

Okay.

Do we want to hear some of those?

Okay, it's pretty good.

There's a gabble.

I called to this hearing of the U.S.

Senate Subcommittee and

Food and Nutrition, especially crops, organics, and research, to order.

Chairwoman Stevenow.

Good morning.

And Ranking Member Boozman, thank you so much for coming.

He's not looking up at all, by the way.

Thank you for your leadership on this committee, and I look forward to working with you to pass a farm bill.

Farm bill.

Farm bill.

A farm bill that works for small farmers, rural communities, and hungry Americans.

I would also like to thank my ranking member, Senator Braun.

And I look forward to working closely with you.

Good delivery of that line.

Snap, can you imagine one of the most effective programs to fight hunger and thyroid hens?

Can you imagine awful people actually having knowledge?

I'm not saying anyone in the room has this, but knowledge of farming and what needs to be done.

And you've worked your ass off for, you know, 20 years.

And this guy comes in and you're sitting at the table with him going, and

farm

stuff

for corn.

You'd be like, what the hell?

What the hell?

Right.

And even take out the fact that the man had a stroke and obviously is incapable of communicating with human beings.

What is he known for?

He was a small town mayor.

No, no, those work out well.

And he's known for wearing hoodies and gym shorts.

What the hell does this guy know about farming?

Are you kidding me?

Look what a small town mayor can do in, let's say, transportation.

Yeah, I guess maybe you're right on that one.

At least Pete Buttigieg actually had to fix potholes.

Do you remember when we used to look up to people and go, wow, that person is accomplished.

Now we're looking

how did they get that job?

And to get to that job that you're talking about is overseeing overseeing a bill that will exceed $1 trillion.

Oh, my the Glenn Back program.