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Speaker 2 All right, let me just get this.

Speaker 2 I don't mean the pun here off the table.

Speaker 2 But there is something that

Speaker 2 people

Speaker 2 tend to consume from time to time that is causing 10% of global emissions of methane.

Speaker 2 Now, this is a gas that over the last two decades has trapped 80 times as much heat as carbon dioxide. So it's worse.

Speaker 2 It's worse than carbon dioxide. 80 times worse.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 scientists are now telling us, experts, that we

Speaker 2 cannot ignore this. It must be eliminated if we are serious at all about reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
emissions, yeah, we're not talking about your SUV anymore. We're now talking about something

Speaker 2 you might have heard of called rice.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 I hate to point this out, but

Speaker 2 rice

Speaker 2 is a staple for about half the world.

Speaker 2 And rice is cheap and plentiful.

Speaker 2 And rice keeps people alive

Speaker 2 for about half the world.

Speaker 2 But,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 it was something that's really, you know, from the 16th century.

Speaker 2 It was it arrived in South America. And,

Speaker 2 you know, outside of Asia, Brazil is the largest rice producer. And rice grows in warm, wet climates.
And,

Speaker 2 you know, you got to have that waterlogged soil. And boy, what happens? What happens?

Speaker 2 methane so we got to stop eating rice now may i ask a uh quick question when are we going to start calling these uh climate change uh people

Speaker 2 killers

Speaker 2 when when are we going to actually admit out loud and say if you are part of this climate cult that is for now that let me let me define this not people who agree that global warming is happening or want to save the world,

Speaker 2 but the part of the cult

Speaker 2 that will say we've got to get rid of rice.

Speaker 2 We've got to go zero emissions by 2030 or we're all going to die.

Speaker 2 These people are going to kill millions of people.

Speaker 2 And I just don't know what it's going to take before people start going, oh, yeah, we shouldn't listen to those people.

Speaker 2 Those aren't experts. Those are crazy people.

Speaker 2 Crazy people.

Speaker 2 Let me give you another expert story. And this one should say everything for you because if you don't start saying those things now,

Speaker 2 it's only going to get harder. And then you're going to be out.

Speaker 2 A few weeks ago, we had Dr. Eric Henson on.

Speaker 2 He's a guy from Texas who lost his medical license through the Texas Medical Board because he refused to obey the mask mandate in 2021.

Speaker 2 Now he is an expert. He is an ear, nose, and throat doctor.
He knows that wearing masks most times can become harmful to his patients.

Speaker 2 He knows that every study concludes a cloth mask is ineffective at preventing the spread of a respiratory virus.

Speaker 2 Because of this, he didn't wear the mask. He didn't force

Speaker 2 his patients to wear a mask. And he was reported.

Speaker 2 And the Texas Medical Board suspended his license.

Speaker 2 Then he was on this program.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 apparently a lot of people called the Texas Medical Board.

Speaker 2 And lo and behold, what happens the Texas Medical Board are like ah you can have your license back here it is

Speaker 2 job well done right

Speaker 2 well if it wasn't for ESG

Speaker 2 the hospital that he worked at the UT Health East Texas Jacksonville hospital has informed Dr. Henson that his hospital privileges have been suspended indefinitely.

Speaker 2 Oh, and his insurance company has also dropped him.

Speaker 2 So he had his license suspended. And then when you, because you now have to be the police, there is no guard of anybody's rights anymore.

Speaker 2 You have to guard those rights because you heard about it and you said this is wrong and you called.

Speaker 2 The government agency said, oh, you know what? We need to be reelected. You're right.

Speaker 2 You are so right.

Speaker 2 But then their henchmen in the public-private partnerships,

Speaker 2 they took care of business because you won't stand against these people.

Speaker 2 When the government can't get away with its tyrannical, unconstitutional action, that's when the public-private partnership comes in.

Speaker 2 This is ESG.

Speaker 2 And if you don't stand up against against it now and we don't get our government under control, this is what it will be like with you from here on out.

Speaker 2 Let me just show you what the process is. The administrative state, either at local or state or federal authorities, they'll make up a new law.
Okay?

Speaker 2 administrative state will make up a new law. We're seeing this happen over and over and over again.
And the Supreme Court keeps overturning the administrative state's laws because he can't do that.

Speaker 2 But you can't, the courts can't keep up with these people because they don't care.

Speaker 2 So they just keep passing them. And even if they're overturned,

Speaker 2 they've already done all the damage.

Speaker 2 All of it.

Speaker 2 If Congress,

Speaker 2 which the GOP has been hijacked long ago by progressives, but if they don't get rid of those progressives and take a stand and win this budget fight, this is going to continue to get worse.

Speaker 2 Because the reason why it's allowed to stand is because Congress has given the purse strings to the president. By not passing a budget, they have no control over any of the money.

Speaker 2 And the administrative state can shift it anywhere they want do whatever they want and Congress can't stop them we are in a place where we have a dictatorial role for the president

Speaker 2 and here's what happens

Speaker 2 elites will find a problem that they want to solve but they're not really trying to solve the problem they're trying to gain more power and control over you

Speaker 2 so in this case it was covid oh we got to solve solve that problem. Wear a mask.
They pass a mandate. What was that? Was that about health?

Speaker 2 Maybe at first. I'll give everybody a benefit of the doubt at first on COVID.

Speaker 2 But it quickly became clear, this was about compliance. You will comply.

Speaker 2 And things went crazy. They passed a mandate, which they can't do.

Speaker 2 And once people come to their senses and realize the truth of, in this case, the masks, that they do nothing and actually can make things worse, the real damage, the human damage, has already been done because of the public-private partnership with big tech and media.

Speaker 2 Big tech and media get their marching orders from the government.

Speaker 2 So, whatever the agency says, you'll do this.

Speaker 2 This is what needs to happen.

Speaker 2 The media falls in line and they enforce it and then social media compounds it because that social media can go after you where the mainstream media can only kind of go against the public or the private citizen.

Speaker 2 It can only stick people out like me or this doctor because he becomes a public figure. But you,

Speaker 2 they don't have time. But social media has all the time in the world.

Speaker 2 All they have to do is just start by putting out, this is a, we're not sure about this source. We're not sure if this person is telling the truth.

Speaker 2 So then, when the damage is done,

Speaker 2 the media has destroyed the reputations of anyone who stood against, you know, what we all now know is correct.

Speaker 2 But no one is held accountable.

Speaker 2 None of the perpetrators

Speaker 2 that character assassination has to pay.

Speaker 2 The perpetrators, they don't even run for cover. They're not afraid.
They just move on to the next thing where they're going to destroy careers

Speaker 2 because they control all of the levers. Justice in America is not about justice anymore.
In this ESG world, justice only comes in the form of a fist if you disagree or stand against the power.

Speaker 2 Look at what's happening with transgenderism.

Speaker 2 It is perfectly logical to say, I don't want transgender dancers or strippers who are their regular sex in the classroom.

Speaker 2 It is totally logical and reasonable.

Speaker 2 But you're destroyed if you actually try to stand for that because the media, social media, the public-private partnership takes care of you and destroys you and tries to make you into something

Speaker 2 and make you sound like you're saying something that you're not.

Speaker 2 So the government agencies, after they've destroyed you and then been corrected, And then the media and social media has destroyed you, they don't run, they don't correct.

Speaker 2 Now the government is embarrassed and defied, and they must exact a price. So now

Speaker 2 you playing the role of the police rise up, force the committee or the commission or the agency to drop the case. They do, but it's still not over because it's ESG.

Speaker 2 Now the private partners in the private public partnership

Speaker 2 step to the plate. The local hospital, which may or may not be getting heat from their out-of-controlled boards or AMA or somebody else,

Speaker 2 but they know,

Speaker 2 we're part of that system. Somebody knows we better play ball.
They drop it. And then

Speaker 2 perhaps they've already, you know, maybe they're just a hospital that already has said, you know, these people who say we shouldn't mutilate children.

Speaker 2 You know, they're crazy. We got to get those doctors out.

Speaker 2 Maybe these are the hospitals that have already said, you know, should we even have to treat people who don't play by the rules? I mean after all they're grandma killers

Speaker 2 and as if that's not enough the insurance company now needs to cancel your insurance because you know ESG and stuff you're a risk and if you stand up a second time social media is going to attack and smear you

Speaker 2 This is all to weaken support for you and to teach others not to stand with you. You know what this is? This is the Chinese model.
Except they have it in an app.

Speaker 2 If somebody is on the outs with the public-private partnerships in China, you get a text. You are not allowed to be within X number of feet from that person who is currently on the crap list.

Speaker 2 You can't talk to them.

Speaker 2 Otherwise, you're a problem.

Speaker 2 And And the process becomes the punishment. IRS, ATF, FBI.

Speaker 2 They can not only impoverish you, but they also send the signal that you're even more toxic than you thought before.

Speaker 2 And if you try to get a lawyer, good luck, because their firms have ESG scores as well. Their clients,

Speaker 2 they might lose those clients if they represent a rebel like you.

Speaker 2 And if the FBI doesn't seize your bank account, your bank just may cancel it because, again, your business, you're a risk to them. Same with insurance.
You don't even need to be a criminal anymore.

Speaker 2 You will comply.

Speaker 2 May I suggest

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 if you

Speaker 2 think that this system has got to stop, You not only fight it at the state level in your state, make sure you are stopping E, S, and G, and you have control of your state

Speaker 2 entities and agencies.

Speaker 2 If you're in Texas, I wouldn't mind if you called the UT Health East Texas Jacksonville Hospital and tell them politely that you think Dr. Henson should be reinstated.

Speaker 2 The number is 903-541-5000. That's 903-541-5000.
This is a hospital that even though he's had his license put back into place because he was right,

Speaker 2 they kicked him out.

Speaker 2 Also, Texas legislature, call them, demand the legislation SB666

Speaker 2 to protect doctors like Dr. Henson is passed.

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Speaker 2 So, did you see what's happening now with all the experts? They're just doing whatever they want, and they don't answer to anybody.

Speaker 2 So, you know, Whitmer had this up in Michigan. She had this Chinese company come in, and they're an EV company,

Speaker 2 and it's a communist company.

Speaker 2 And she's given all kinds of taxpayer money to this Chinese communist company.

Speaker 2 Well, now we find out that,

Speaker 2 you know, one of the key minerals that we need in lithium-ion batteries

Speaker 2 would be lithium.

Speaker 2 And so we now find out that the Chinese company is going to be looking like they're going to get their lithium

Speaker 2 from the Taliban.

Speaker 2 Thursday, last Thursday, executives of the Chinese company met with Afghan Minister of Minerals and Petroleum. He's a senior leader of the Taliban.

Speaker 2 He offered a $10 billion investment for access to Afghans' lithium deposits. The company was identified as Goshen, the company that Whitmer is giving all the money to.

Speaker 2 So not only did we give the airport to China, cost us billions of dollars to build, but this was the other thing that was suspected why Biden would do this as a gift to China, because of the lithium deposits.

Speaker 2 So we strengthened them. Now we're bringing that communist money working with terrorists into Michigan.

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Speaker 2 You know, I think it's really important that we all draw our lines.

Speaker 2 We all look at what's really happening

Speaker 2 and what's affecting our decisions to stand or not stand.

Speaker 2 You know, some people just won't do it and they're on our side and, you know, it's fine. I'm not going to judge anybody.

Speaker 2 But others are doing it because they just don't want the hassle. They don't want to be unpopular or they want to fit in.
And

Speaker 2 this is what's happening in our classrooms. Our kids are learning from this and it's normal.

Speaker 2 You especially in this society kids want to be noticed. They want to be special.
They certainly don't want to be out of the Cool Kids Club. I've been out of the Cool Kids Club my entire life.

Speaker 2 Would I like to be in the Cool Kids Club? Sure.

Speaker 2 Do I care?

Speaker 2 At this point.

Speaker 2 I mean, if I cared, I'd probably lose a few LBs, but nope, don't care. Okay.

Speaker 2 However, I want to show you how insidious this is because it is natural to feel this way.

Speaker 2 I was just rejected as a member at

Speaker 2 a club.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 I've lived in this neighborhood forever.

Speaker 2 I passed on the membership when we moved in because, you know, you get a golf member, and I don't play golf, and I don't hang out at country clubs. No, thank you.
So Tanya and I just passed on it.

Speaker 2 Never even thought of it until recently, maybe two years ago.

Speaker 2 And,

Speaker 2 you know, usually things go quickly, but

Speaker 2 no, because there's a couple of people that disagree with me politically.

Speaker 2 And so I jumped through extra hoops and had extra meals with extra people and asked, you know, they questioned my integrity and everything else. And I just about lost my mind during that.

Speaker 2 But I thought, you know what? I just want it because I have so many meetings now at her dinner meetings. Tanya doesn't trust anyone.
So we don't ever have anyone over at the house. Ever.

Speaker 2 And it drives me nuts. But okay.
So we can have anybody over the house. So if I want to have a business meeting, I have to drive into Dallas.

Speaker 2 Or if I have something where it's, you know, kind of a friend, but not. you know, not a friend, not like you, Stu, that she will let in the house.
Ooh, on the list.

Speaker 2 I want to have dinner and I want to have it like I'd like to just be able just to walk there. Yeah, close by, yes.
Not have security and everything else.

Speaker 2 So when they rejected me, what, a couple of weeks ago, I found myself caring all of a sudden because now I wasn't. in the Cool Kids Club.
Now I've been rejected from the Cool Kids Club.

Speaker 2 That only made me, you know, want to build a 500-foot flagpole in the property that I happen to own right on the other side of the fence of that club and fly the biggest freaking pirate flag you've ever seen.

Speaker 2 But,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 my better angels occasionally,

Speaker 2 you know, helped me out a bit. But anyway,

Speaker 2 this is so normal.

Speaker 2 And if it's happening to somebody like me where I'm feeling that and I hate it.

Speaker 1 Wait, what's normal? Just the...

Speaker 2 Wanting to fit in.

Speaker 2 Okay. That's what's happening with our kids.
Culture is being jammed down their throat, not only in the school by the school teachers, you know, and

Speaker 2 all of the stuff that's going on in the schools, but also all throughout social media. You can be special.

Speaker 2 You can be recognized. You can be protected

Speaker 2 in an even more special class than just a kid if you're trans

Speaker 2 by

Speaker 2 whatever. Right.
And gives you special status.

Speaker 2 Exactly right.

Speaker 1 Probably desiring for other reasons.

Speaker 2 And I think between that and the fact that kids, I mean, I would have done this when I was a kid. I would have said, you know, yeah, I'm a turtle today.

Speaker 2 If you had to, because I would just love being able to have that control over the teacher because that makes you popular because you're the one that can, you know, I got a little power over the teacher.

Speaker 2 Oh, 100%. 100%.

Speaker 1 I would absolutely, I would request the school to build me turtle tunnels that all my clients could crawl through

Speaker 1 from class to class.

Speaker 1 I mean, I can remember every other week or so, there would be some cause at our school that people would walk out for, and there would be this big protest, and the local paper would come and say, students united today for blah, blah, blah, cause.

Speaker 1 And I say blah, blah, blah cause because I never knew what the cause was, nor nor did i ever care what i knew was we were walking outside of the school in a direction that was not to math class see i grew up in a time where we had a bunch of nuns in black habits and you're not getting past them

Speaker 2 walking out nope not walking out you you have a child what what grade is she in sarah

Speaker 4 she's a freshman in high school gosh i can't believe that that does not seem possible so what is she seeing in her school so she was telling me the other day that

Speaker 4 you are allowed to pick your pronouns. You're allowed to pick a new name.
You're allowed a new identity anytime you want.

Speaker 2 Anytime, not just at the beginning of the year.

Speaker 4 Well, I think it's day by day. I mean, it has to be like the day before or that day or whatever.

Speaker 2 Oh, so tomorrow I'm coming as a dinosaur.

Speaker 4 Well, there's bunny and bunny self.

Speaker 2 There's what? Wait. Bunny.

Speaker 1 Bunny. Bunny, like Easter bunny bunny.

Speaker 2 Bunny and bunny self.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 So when you talk about yourself, you would refer to bunny self. But the teacher has to call you bunny.

Speaker 1 And that's not a name change. That is a

Speaker 1 pronoun change. Yeah, that's pronounced

Speaker 2 identity. Let's ask for the bunny.
Let's ask it. What if there's more than one bunny in the class?

Speaker 2 My gosh, I would have had a field day. Oh, my gosh.
I would have been torturing the teachers with this. I know it is.

Speaker 2 This is an agent of chaos.

Speaker 2 You know, chaos does not come from any place good. Can you imagine being a teacher and the kids that are just screwing with you.

Speaker 4 Well, that's the thing. The teachers have to abide by it or they get fired or some sort of suspension.

Speaker 4 So when you go in and you say, I'm, they, them, but the teacher says, hey, you, or he, she, they get in trouble. And kids can change their names, can change their identities, whatever they want.

Speaker 2 It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable.
This is, you know what? Have you seen the latest that just came out on Dylan Mulvaney?

Speaker 2 He wrote a few years ago, this is 2021.

Speaker 2 He said, I'm a trans non-binary actor and I've had trouble finding roles. So my friend wrote me a femme character in a commercial.

Speaker 2 The guy,

Speaker 2 what he's doing now is acting. He claims to be non-binary and trans.
Maybe is, you know, he thinks he is. Maybe that's legitimate.
It seems legitimate.

Speaker 2 But what he's doing when everybody's like, he's making fun of girls.

Speaker 2 That is a character role he's playing. Why?

Speaker 2 Because he wanted a job.

Speaker 2 He wanted to be popular.

Speaker 2 That's all this is. That's all this is.

Speaker 2 And so when you stand up against it,

Speaker 2 you get slammed down by the bullies in class. So every time that you ever had a bully in your life and you just like, you know, just leave it alone, you trained yourself

Speaker 2 to just leave it alone

Speaker 2 we've got to train our kids to not just leave it alone no i'm sorry i'm going to stand i've i've said for years you're going to college just get the degree leave it alone get the degree no

Speaker 2 no absolutely i was wrong what do you mean you say no just so you don't uh speak out against these things yeah just just write the paper that you know you're going to get the degree just move on no

Speaker 2 it is more important to protect your

Speaker 2 your

Speaker 2 integrity muscles

Speaker 2 you train yourself that i'm not gonna use those i don't have to use those no you need them now more than ever you must take stands because it's getting weaker and weaker look what's happening well how did in 1933 the churches almost dropped the Old Testament within six months of Hitler?

Speaker 2 He said, you know, a lot of Jewish stuff there.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 The churches voted and almost dropped the Old Testament.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 2 Because they had already been infiltrated. They had already played along, gotten along, didn't stand up for anything, didn't stand up against what was going on.

Speaker 2 You know, it's like one guy, he was an archbishop, I think.

Speaker 2 This one guy was the guy who stood up and said, you know, we shouldn't probably be killing our kids and calling them undesirables and killing out of mercy. I don't think that fits.
One guy.

Speaker 2 And he wasn't popular.

Speaker 2 Once you lose that, look what's happening. Why do you think Catholic Church is being infiltrated? Why do you think that is?

Speaker 2 To sow the seeds of distrust, to sow the seeds of,

Speaker 2 I don't know, something else,

Speaker 2 to make sure it stays in line, they're training you.

Speaker 2 And it's natural to want to be left alone. and just be in the cool kids club.
You know what? We were born at a time where we don't get that privilege.

Speaker 2 We instead get the privilege of standing up for what is right and true.

Speaker 2 That's much better than any stupid club.

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Speaker 2 by definition, if we are followers of God, we should know we're never going to be popular. We're never going to be popular.
And in America, it has been popular to be a Christian. It's been fine.

Speaker 2 And that's why we're so soft on it because we were never challenged. Well, now we are.
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Speaker 2 we have to say, oh,

Speaker 2 was this, I hate to use this, a country club? Or was this,

Speaker 2 did I go? Because I actually believe it and I'll stand up for it.

Speaker 2 But you're never promised you're going to be, in fact, you're promised you're not going to be popular.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You're promised that there's going to be all sorts of challenges to your human instinct, right? Every human wants to partake in earthly pleasures and you're not supposed to do that, right?

Speaker 1 Every human, every human wants, you know, easily provable evidence, right? Like you want to be able to see something. And in a way, faith is a challenge to that.

Speaker 1 Everyone wants to be able to see and touch and prove things and you're taking a leap of faith. That's not easy for human beings to do.
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Speaker 1 Everyone wants to be adored. Everyone wants that adoration that comes with being popular and cool.
And, you know, look, the teachings are very clear here that you're probably not going to get that.

Speaker 2 That's not really going to be the whole point here is you're supposed to be standing up.

Speaker 1 I mean, the thing's kind of based on a guy who wound up getting crucified over these types of things. Right.

Speaker 2 Like, it's kind of, he isn't up there going, man,

Speaker 2 I was trying to be cool.

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Speaker 1 It's taking a stance that you know to be unpopular.

Speaker 1 You know, we get these challenges sometimes around elections where we are asked by many, particularly in the political realm, to do things that we might know

Speaker 1 from

Speaker 1 past teachings and lessons and,

Speaker 1 you know, faith beliefs that are not really the thing we should be doing. And we're told, well, we need to do it to win this election.

Speaker 1 And you know what? Like, that's the type of thing that the faith is supposed to cure, right? Like, you're,

Speaker 1 if you're executing that faith, you still do what you believe to be the right thing, even if it counts as a loss.

Speaker 1 A loss as big as hanging on a cross was kind of the basis of that.

Speaker 2 We have

Speaker 2 so expertly been

Speaker 2 relegated, and we've done it ourselves, relegated our faith out of everything.

Speaker 2 I'm not looking for the pope. No, neither am I.
I mean, some of the popes have have been really bad. I'd like to stay away.
This current pope, I'm definitely not looking for the pope.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 we don't care anymore about lies

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Speaker 2 They are lying to our face.

Speaker 2 And we all know it. The Democrats and Republicans and Independents, we all know it.
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Speaker 2 where's our faith in action?

Speaker 2 My father said to me, I was, I was going back to school and I was going to study philosophy and theology, and he said, oh, philosophy, is it applied philosophy or is it

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Speaker 2 Yesterday, we talked to an FBI agent who, you know, is a straight-arrow kind of guy, stood up, is like,

Speaker 2 I can't take COVID vaccines. And also, I'm seeing some bad things happening here at the FBI.
He became a whistleblower and the FBI just turned on him.

Speaker 2 He's a really brave guy. Yesterday, we were talking to him because

Speaker 2 I didn't know for sure, but I thought his father was also involved in something with the FBI and ATF, and I wondered how any of this played. His dad was, I think, a vice president or

Speaker 2 something.

Speaker 2 He was the head of a station here in

Speaker 2 Dallas, KRLD.

Speaker 2 And they were reporting on Waco.

Speaker 2 And David Koresh wanted to have messages put out on KRLD in exchange for children and, you know, him,

Speaker 2 you know, just walking out peacefully. It didn't happen, but the conversations happened.
And David Koresh did go on the air.

Speaker 2 And I wondered,

Speaker 2 what did dad's thinking about that whole situation, did that play into

Speaker 2 his son wanting wanting to be an FBI agent and his son

Speaker 2 who grew up with a dad who had to have been thinking,

Speaker 2 what's the moral thing to do? What is the right thing to do here?

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Speaker 2 the station manager, former station manager at KRLD News Radio here in Dallas during the Waco tragedy, which happened 30 years ago this week. Charlie, welcome.
How are you?

Speaker 5 Good morning. It's my fault.
I'll take full responsibility.

Speaker 2 So this must have been really hard.

Speaker 2 I know that we

Speaker 2 wanted to do a special on Waco, and the Branch Davidian said they'll do it as long as we run

Speaker 2 an hour from their perspective.

Speaker 2 And we started looking into, you know, what some of the details on what they wanted, and it just wasn't acceptable to us. So

Speaker 5 we didn't do it. Good choice on your part.

Speaker 2 Good job. It wasn't really a hard stretch on that one.

Speaker 2 But you, when you were at KRLD,

Speaker 2 you had children being held hostage, and we all saw that train wreck coming.

Speaker 2 How did this happen with David Koresh? And what were your thoughts during it?

Speaker 5 Yeah, probably not as much as I saw the train wreck because

Speaker 5 I try to cut through it. I know we have limited time.
So we got a call into into the newsroom that evening, the evening of the shootout. And

Speaker 5 one of the young producers came out and said, we got a guy on the line, claims he's calling from inside the compound. And I said, I better take it because my first thought was, this is a prank.

Speaker 5 It's a fraternity somewhere, you know, SMU or something. And some people are going to have some fun with

Speaker 5 a serious situation. So I got on the phone, started talking to the guy.
The guy was Steve Snyder. I could tell from his accent, he was from Wisconsin.
I'm from Wisconsin.

Speaker 5 His accent was stronger than mine. And we come to find out after the fact, he grew up about 45 miles from where I did about the same time I did.
I think he might have been a couple of years older.

Speaker 5 So anyway, we're having a chit chat and I'm trying to ask him questions. Hey, what's going on in there? How many wounded do you have? How many children?

Speaker 5 What's the deal? Why don't you let the children out?

Speaker 5 And he's very unresponsive because he says, well, I really can't answer that. David Hafnan said.
Oh, I can't answer that. David Hafnan has that.

Speaker 5 So he kept deferring to David, but and finally he just said, Well, here, I'll just, and he handed the phone over to David.

Speaker 5 So now I'm talking to David Gresh, and I know it's David Gresh because I've heard his voice on CNN. He did an interview earlier in the evening.
And as we're talking,

Speaker 5 he is unresponsive. He just goes into a ramble, and it's a biblical sounding kind of language with a lot of thou's and

Speaker 5 they's and shalls and self and you know it's got I Ps on the end of the words and all that but he's not really he's not really there and he keeps talking about himself in the past tense the birds of the field shall eat upon the flesh of the lamb and

Speaker 5 and he's going on and on and on about being the lamb and about being dead and I'm going man this guy is suicidal and I've I'm not a psychiatrist but I've dealt with a lot of nutcases in my life you know we're in media when we have the opportunity.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 he was so far out there and he just was really tightly wound.

Speaker 5 And so after about 45 minutes of trying to talk him off the cliff with a lot of funny little nuances in between, only the second half of, or maybe the last 10 minutes of the conversation was recorded because I'm on a business line.

Speaker 5 They called in on a business line, and we can't put that line on the air. We had to transfer him over in order to do it, which we did ultimately.

Speaker 5 But somebody brought me one of those little suction cups, if you think back 30 years ago.

Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh. And

Speaker 2 you can see it all.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so we could record it. And the recording was terrible quality, but someone transcribed it after the fact.
So I have a little bit of our private quote conversation.

Speaker 5 And I'm, again, I'm like a counselor. I'm just saying, like, yeah, but you don't have to die.
And what about all your followers? And it's, you know, it could be okay. And what about the children?

Speaker 5 And let's let some more children out. Okay.
And,

Speaker 5 you know, I'm trying to be as conciliatory as I can. And we put him on the air for a little bit.
And he, again, he launched into his biblical gibberish, I would call it. And

Speaker 5 then the rest of history. People know most of those stories, but

Speaker 5 what I have to share with you, Glenn, is just kind of bizarre. When you live through a traumatic experience, and it was a traumatic experience for me, I had,

Speaker 5 you know, I had,

Speaker 5 I'd interviewed some FBI agents and I'd seen them at the scene of crimes and I covered a lot of stories and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 But I never had FBI agents calling me at my house in the middle of the night and I never had the code words with ATF so we could make sure it was really them.

Speaker 5 And I had never been involved and I'd never been attacked by the journalism community, which the

Speaker 5 American Society of Professional Journalists and the Columbia Journalism Review and all these people. And they're all going like, oh, these terrible people, they inserted themselves into the story.

Speaker 5 How could the government, you know, how could the media work with with the government? I mean, in today's world, isn't that a laugh? I mean, really?

Speaker 2 It's incredible to me, especially at that time, because I know your record. You started at KFRC, worked at K101,

Speaker 2 KCBS, KNX. I mean, you're a news guy when news guys were news guys.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's almost an embarrassment to have that affiliation now because

Speaker 5 if you tell somebody, you know, you're a news guy, they just, you know, they run. And I don't blame them because I have the same feeling.
It's like,

Speaker 5 how did I have a, we could do a whole program on how it happened because I have a really good theory on journalism school and the concept of objectivity, but we don't, that's not today.

Speaker 5 Today is the 30th anniversary, but something I wanted to share with you. So I went through this traumatic experience.
And afterwards, and I, we got literally hundreds of letters from people.

Speaker 5 And I'm going to give you an example. Here's a postcard holding it in my hand.
I took it out of the box last night. My wife said, You need to open the box.
I said, I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 5 And she said, Open the box. It's a mooting box full of stuff, just junk, just everything thrown in there.

Speaker 5 It says, David, you have made about all the points you can make, so I command you and all your people to come out peacefully. Signed, God.

Speaker 5 I just David Koreash care of the radio station. And

Speaker 5 there's so much of that stuff. Oh, my God.
We don't realize how the world, the outside world, and from all over the country and foreign countries, people sent us stuff because they had an idea.

Speaker 5 Here's a tape of

Speaker 5 my favorite sermon from my pastor. Just play this for him and he'll come out.

Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 Can we get some of that off-the-air conversation from you? I'd love to be able to play some of that on the air.

Speaker 5 Well, I have some of the on-the-air conversation, but the off-the-air conversation, the tape is, it may be one of the cassettes in the box. I don't know because there's some that are not labeled.

Speaker 5 But I have a transcript of it. And then

Speaker 5 I just found

Speaker 5 a lot of real, there's a lot of stuff that I would say is funny. because it probably wasn't funny at the time that people were sincere in trying to solve the problem.

Speaker 5 I found a letter from a guy from New Jersey who wrote to the president of NBC News on my behalf. I don't know who he is.
I didn't, you know, I have no relationship.

Speaker 5 And he told him that the guy was name was Michael Gartner at the time. And I did two days of interviews with Bryant Gumbel on live.

Speaker 5 And that was difficult because he kept asking me about his, you know, David's state of mind. And I didn't want to say the guy's a nutcase and he's suicidal because

Speaker 5 I was afraid he would be listening and that would be enough to set him off. And the next thing you you know, we'd see flames coming out the windows, which

Speaker 5 we saw eventually.

Speaker 2 And when you saw how it ended,

Speaker 2 what were your thoughts about ATF and FBI?

Speaker 5 Well, my thoughts about ATF were consistent from the beginning, just because of my personal

Speaker 5 interchanges with them. I had an ATF agent come into my office and say, give me a tape, a copy of the tape of the interview you guys did a couple nights ago.

Speaker 5 There were fugitives that were on the run, and they were outside, Davidians that were outside the compound, and they were all scattered. They were running as fast as they could.

Speaker 5 But they would stop at pay phones or at friends' phones or whatever and call into the overnight show at the radio station. And

Speaker 5 then we would run tape on it. And I had those tapes.
And I knew that eventually somebody would come for him. So this ATF guy comes in and says, give me a copy of the tape of so-and-so.

Speaker 5 And I said, I got it right here on my desk. Give me a subpoena.
And he goes, well, come on, man. Help me out here a little bit.
Give me, you know, I don't need it. I said, no, it's our station policy.

Speaker 5 I've got it right here. It'll take you 10 minutes.
You can get a judge to give you a subpoena. It's not a big deal, but that's our process.

Speaker 5 And please, you know, I've been helping you guys out and following your process. Help mine.
And oh, come on, man.

Speaker 5 He goes, you know, even the bank down in Waco, they released all of this banking records to us without a subpoena. Wow.

Speaker 5 That's a federal crime. It is.
And

Speaker 5 here's a government agent sitting in my office telling me that

Speaker 5 he's confessing to a crime. And at the time, even I knew that.
And I went like, man, you guys are some dumb, you know what?

Speaker 5 And so it's like, okay, the other thing that was funny, and this is a sidebar that's not part of any Netflix documentary that no one ever heard, when the ATF first started calling in again, I was real concerned about pranks and about false information and everything, because you don't get in that situation very often where you're a participant in the actual story.

Speaker 5 So I told the first ATF guy that I talked to, the agent in charge, I said, look, here's the deal. We have to have a code.

Speaker 5 So when your agents call in that I know they're illegitimate, you may need something quick like, hey, say this or do this or whatever, because we got somebody in the crosshairs or we're about to do this.

Speaker 5 I don't know what you're going to do. It doesn't matter.
But we got to have a code. So he says, okay, we'll give you our social security numbers.
I'm telling the truth. So

Speaker 5 the ATF agents would call the radio station and say, this is Agent Smith, Social Security, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. da, right? That was the code, and they did it.

Speaker 5 So when the FBI came in and took over, and this is one of the reasons my son probably went into the FBI, is that there's so much more buttoned up than the ATF.

Speaker 5 The FBI guy, so the agent in charge, I think it was Jeff Jamar,

Speaker 5 he calls and I go, look, you know, we're doing this deal with the ATF and we got to have your Social Security numbers, have your agents identify themselves. And he just started laughing.

Speaker 5 He just laughed so hard. And he went like, no, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 And I thought, well, good for you.

Speaker 5 So he said, we'll give you our birthdays. So he started rattling.
You know, the agent would say, this is Agent Seraphin, and my birthday is 11,849, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 So it was funny. Do you, Charlie? Do you have a second to hang on for just a couple more minutes?

Speaker 5 Oh, sure. Yeah.
Okay, good. I'm here as long as you need me.

Speaker 2 All right. Let's take 60 seconds and then back with Charlie Seraphin.
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Speaker 2 So, Charlie,

Speaker 2 as your son grew up, he heard you talking about all of this, and I think...

Speaker 2 that he probably looked at his dad who had a lot of integrity and also

Speaker 2 this instance that you

Speaker 2 had to have shared with him many times and your

Speaker 2 your reason on ATF FBI. Now the FBI

Speaker 2 because I've always felt that about the FBI until now and now I just don't know who to trust. I think it's rotten from the from the

Speaker 2 core in Washington. I don't know how far down it goes.

Speaker 2 But now that he was an FBI agent and he has started to blow the whistles and you've seen what's happened to him, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 5 you know, he's my son and we're proud of our children and all that, but I have five sons and

Speaker 5 Kyle is among the best and the brightest. in our country.
I'm just, I'm going to say that, and not just as his father, as an observer of people. He's an exceptional human being.

Speaker 5 His grasp of facts, his cognitive ability, his intellect, his vocabulary,

Speaker 5 he's been a voracious reader his entire life. He's read so much more than I have.
He's a lot smarter than I am. And so when he told me that this was something he was going to do, I was very proud.

Speaker 5 And when I went to Quantico and went to the graduation, listened to the speeches, and especially when I met his the agents who graduated at the same time with him.

Speaker 5 Man, oh man, if you wanted to put together, you know, the all-American team, they were, that's what they were.

Speaker 5 These are awesome people, former military, former police officers, physically fit, weapons experts, sharp as tacks, really just

Speaker 5 an incredible group of co-workers. And then

Speaker 5 it wasn't very long. And I could tell in our conversations, he was going like, man, there's stuff going on here that's just not right.
I mean, almost from the beginning.

Speaker 5 Well, actually from the beginning. Jim Comey gave the graduation speech.
And I was there with Kyle's mom. And, you know, we listened.
And

Speaker 5 I came away and I went, wow, that's a really good speech. And Kyle goes, nah, BS.
I go, what do you mean? He goes, I've heard it five times already. I was like, oh, it's a canned speech.

Speaker 5 It sounded like it was really spontaneous.

Speaker 5 really aimed at the audience.

Speaker 5 And then

Speaker 5 he was a little bit skeptical. Then, when he went into the counterterrorism unit, it was like, oh man, this is a joke.
We just waste our time following these people around.

Speaker 5 Nobody does anything about it. We know who the bad guys are.
They don't pick them up.

Speaker 5 And then he got out of that. And then he got into the surveillance unit where they would travel around the country and go out to Portland and be in D.C.
at the riots there, you know, all this stuff.

Speaker 5 And the same thing. He said, we know, you know, we know who the bad guys are.

Speaker 5 His first assignment, which I don't, he doesn't talk about, his first assignment was for the, one of them was for the Trump inauguration.

Speaker 5 And there was a young guy that was shining lasers at helicopter pilots' eyes, trying to blind them to make a helicopter crash into the,

Speaker 5 you know, into the celebration. And

Speaker 5 Kyle was teamed with a Secret Service agent, and they went out and they found the guy.

Speaker 5 They watched and they saw the thing going up through the trees the laser and they went over and they the guys went into a restaurant there were five of them and they went into the restaurant kyle and his partner went in they uh arrested the individual with the laser and kyle stayed there and told the others it'd probably be a good idea for them not to get out of their seats and at the time when he told me i thought wow that you know and he said they're probably just students dad they were probably just kids from you know doing something stupid but as time went on and we learned about ampa which we didn't know about and wasn't publicized back then, he says, now, those are definitely Antifa.

Speaker 5 There was no question of it. They were organized.

Speaker 2 I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing all of this information and being the dad to Kyle that you have been.

Speaker 2 American patriot, truly, I think. Charlie, thank you so much.
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Speaker 2 In the end, four federal agents were killed, 20 were wounded, and 75 Branch Davidians, including 25 children, would be dead. If you lived through it, it was an absolute nightmare.

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Speaker 2 Why would they do that?

Speaker 2 Waco, one of the biggest examples of what a reckless and weaponized government is capable of, and you'd think this would have kick-started more congressional oversight into reining in some of these agencies, but the federal bureaucracy has expanded exponentially, as has their constitutional breaking actions.

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Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 Let me tell you a story that

Speaker 2 I could not believe was happening in Texas. And we have a call in to the Attorney General and others to find out what the hell is going on.
Texas apparently secretly gives its citizens income

Speaker 2 to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms and Explosives without a warrant.

Speaker 2 Now, this has led at least one person being monitored by the feds without a warrant through federal gun background check systems. Now, it's my understanding, Stu,

Speaker 2 aren't those background checks supposed to happen and then destroyed? Right? Certainly not just able to be held by the ATF. Right, right.

Speaker 2 So the ATF will take this and they'll look at the guns purchased. And if there's anything that's expensive, they go to the

Speaker 2 Texas, what is it, the Texas Workforce Commission

Speaker 2 and say,

Speaker 2 hey, give us the salaries for all of these people.

Speaker 2 And Texas has been handing over our salaries in Texas

Speaker 2 to the ATF without a warrant. How can that be possible? How can that be possible?

Speaker 1 Either side of that is, both of those sides of that are illegal, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, the whole point of the background check situation, which of course a lot of people who really appreciate the Second Amendment fight against, not because they don't want people to be

Speaker 1 because they don't want this. They don't want a master list of gun owners to be out there.

Speaker 2 Correct.

Speaker 1 And, of course,

Speaker 2 that's why gun registration

Speaker 2 always comes before gun confiscation. Right.

Speaker 1 And we've been told over and over again they don't have a list. They can't have a list.
It is illegal for them to maintain a list.

Speaker 2 Well, apparently.

Speaker 1 But apparently not. And then, you know, just requesting a bunch of salaries is not something that we normally would look fondly on either.

Speaker 1 I mean, both of these things on both sides of this issue seem illegal.

Speaker 2 So the ATF is giving information on what most likely are innocent suspects.

Speaker 2 You've gone from a citizen, and if you don't make enough money to buy a certain gun, then you become a suspect, and your name is given to the FBI.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 wow.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Now, There's lots of reasons you might buy a gun than,

Speaker 2 you know, other than

Speaker 2 my salary allows me to buy this you could have saved up for it you could have gotten you know

Speaker 2 you know somebody died and left you a couple of thousand dollars you could just be an irresponsible person and putting too much on your credit card even though you can't really afford it right that's not i mean that's not

Speaker 2 investigation but that's a reason now for investigation they they suspect you

Speaker 2 If you buy a gun that they don't think you can afford, they suspect you of buying that gun for someone else and taking the money illegally. Which that would be illegal.
That would be illegal. But

Speaker 2 I'm sorry, this is America. If you have evidence, swear out a warrant.

Speaker 2 What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 What year do you think this is, man?

Speaker 1 This is not the way things work anymore, apparently.

Speaker 1 That's amazing. And of course, it justifies all of the sort of slippery slope level skepticism about any of the quote-unquote gun control measures.

Speaker 2 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Most of us look at the gun control thing, and like at least I shouldn't say, I shouldn't speak for everyone, but I'm not a huge gun aficionado, right? But like you look at this and you say,

Speaker 1 if they take an inch, they will take a mile.

Speaker 2 They'll take a mile in the middle. And they're doing it all the time.
And

Speaker 2 they're stating what they want to do. Ike Skelton is on with us.
He's from Camden County, Missouri. He's the presiding commissioner.
He's having things happen in

Speaker 2 his county, and he says we refuse to work with the ATF. Ike, why won't you work with the ATF?

Speaker 5 Because they're an unconstitutional agency, and I believe they're using everything that they can to remove firearms from the people.

Speaker 2 You just don't hear people talk like that anymore. Just get right to the point.
There it is.

Speaker 2 So have they approached you guys on anything? We were just sharing the story from Texas. We just found out that the state of Texas

Speaker 2 through the

Speaker 2 Texas Workers Commission or something is giving our salaries. If you buy a gun in Texas, the ATF is looking at who's purchasing guns.
They go then and say, we need the salaries of all these people.

Speaker 2 And then they decide if that gun is too expensive for you. And if they think it's too expensive for you, you're on a list and you have to be investigated.
Good God.

Speaker 2 No warrant, nothing.

Speaker 5 No, I believe they're trying everything that they possibly can, in my opinion, to not just take firearms out of people's hands, but to also close down all of the small mom-and-pop operations they can because they don't have the manpower to truly watch everything that they want to watch.

Speaker 5 And if they can get it boiled down to the big box stores and the online shops that are selling firearms, I think they would prefer to do that.

Speaker 5 We received, our Planning and Zoning Commission received four separate emails, and they go like this.

Speaker 5 They state the name of a business, operates a firearms business at, and gives an address, and then they say, how is this property zoned?

Speaker 5 And then they ask, is the business in compliance with all zoning and business licensing requirements?

Speaker 5 Yes, exactly. So I figure that if you have an unwitting planning and zoning operation or somebody else in government, I mean,

Speaker 5 folks just, hey, it's ATF. I'm going to give them the information they want, right? Well, thankfully, our planning and zoning is a little bit different.

Speaker 5 They believe an awful lot like we do here in Camden County in general. And so they forward these emails to me.
And I started to look at things. I called, I contacted the one outfit.

Speaker 5 They have been in business for over 15 years. They don't renew their FFL until next year.
I subsequently been in contact with three of the, or two of the other individuals

Speaker 5 of these four and they have also been in business for over 10 to 15 years and those two individuals their license don't renew until 2025

Speaker 5 so I'm betting that if someone from planning and zoning would have said well no I've never heard of these businesses or they don't have a license or they're not we don't know about their zoning then I believe the ATF would have used that to

Speaker 5 as a tool to take away that FFL

Speaker 5 and I'm sure you've seen the memo from the White House that has when when when Joe Biden came in, the memo from the White House really ramped up ATF operations. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 And yeah, and I think that's what they're, I think they're trying to do every single thing they possibly can.

Speaker 2 Well, it's an all-government-wide problem to solve. He wants all government agencies involved in this.
So that means you're going to be attacked

Speaker 2 from every possible direction if you have anything to do with guns. Have you stated that you're not working with the ATF to the ATF?

Speaker 5 Shall I read the letter to you that we sent them? And this is by

Speaker 5 our three commissioners,

Speaker 5 First District Commissioner James Gohagan, Second District Commissioner Don Williams, our County Attorney, our County Treasurer, and our County Sheriff, all signed this letter.

Speaker 5 It says, on or about Tuesday, April 4th, 23, the four emails you sent to our Planning and Zoning Department requesting information about citizen Canman County and their zoning and licensing status were forwarded to me for review.

Speaker 5 Under the anti-commandeering doctrine, Camden County was the the first county in Missouri and possibly the country to pass an ordinance prohibiting any county employee from assisting your unconstitutional agency in violating the rights of our citizens' God-given, constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms.

Speaker 5 As well, Missouri passed the Second Amendment Preservation Act having a $50,000 penalty for assisting the federal government in the enforcement of unconstitutional firearms infringements.

Speaker 5 Therefore, I construe any attempt to receive information about our citizens pertaining to firearms as an attempt to coerce our employees to break Missouri law.

Speaker 5 You may consider this letter as a response to your probe, signed by the Commission and the other three individuals. Wow.

Speaker 2 Any pushback so far?

Speaker 5 Haven't heard a thing.

Speaker 5 Interviews on radio and newspaper KCUR, I believe, out of Kansas City, got a statement from the ATF, and they allege that they are just routine trying to find information so that they can give people an FSL license.

Speaker 5 Oh.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 okay. So this is

Speaker 2 hindering somebody from getting a license.

Speaker 5 And that, and as I stated earlier, that is 100% not true because these people have been in business for a long time.

Speaker 2 Unbelievable. Yeah, we're just working ahead.
We're just working ahead. We want to make sure everybody gets their license.
What a crock.

Speaker 2 Ike,

Speaker 2 thanks so much for standing. I hope that the courage like you have in Camden County spreads from your county to other places.
And, you know, you'd expect it in Texas, but apparently not.

Speaker 5 Well, you know, Missouri, Missouri had open carry before Texas did. So you might want to check out Missouri a little bit when you're here.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know. I know.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 5 I appreciate that statement real quick. You know, I know a lot of focus is on national level, but right here at the local level, these are where things can be affected.
I know.

Speaker 5 I think that you're so hamstrung up at the federal level. Nothing is going to get accomplished up there.

Speaker 5 It's people standing up down here at this local level, and the people of Cannon County appreciate that they have somebody in office that will stand up for their rights and interpose on their behalf against the federal government.

Speaker 2 Thank you so much, Hike. Appreciate it.
God bless you.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 he's absolutely right on this.

Speaker 2 And the first time that the federal government tried to send what now we call FEMA federal help down to a county after a flood, I think it was here in Texas, they were met, the trucks with help

Speaker 2 were met at the state road into the town by armed citizenry who needed help.

Speaker 2 And they stopped the trucks and said, turn them around.

Speaker 2 We're fine here. We don't want your help.

Speaker 2 And the people took care of themselves and they ended up being a lot better off than if they would have taken that federal aid.

Speaker 2 You have the right in your own county

Speaker 2 to stand up and say, we're not doing these things if they're unconstitutional. We're not.
Why Texas is going with warrantless, warrantless probes onto people who are Texans?

Speaker 2 I got to tell you, that kind of stuff makes me want to move from Texas. It's not good.

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Speaker 2 So, this whole leak thing

Speaker 2 still really bothers me for on several levels. First of all, the media and how they helped find this guy, guy,

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Speaker 2 what he did without telling us how he did it.

Speaker 2 There's obviously a problem with our top secret infrastructure. I mean, Hillary Clinton was doing it, but I understand she's the Secretary of State, so she had that access.

Speaker 2 This guy doesn't have this access. And far as I know, he he has never been in Joe Biden's garage or Donald Trump's closet.
So, how did he get access to these?

Speaker 2 Nobody in the press seems to want to ask that question. And my feeling is because there's not a good answer that they want to hear.

Speaker 2 Right now, the Biden administration is looking to take away more of our rights and spy on us even more than they already do.

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Speaker 2 Why are we talking about fixing that?

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Speaker 2 was the deputy director of

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Speaker 2 Cash, how are you, sir?

Speaker 5 I'm good. Great to be with you.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's good to have you.

Speaker 2 This story has bothered me and some of my friends who have been in the military and

Speaker 2 have had

Speaker 2 top-secret clearance. They say what the media is reporting is just

Speaker 2 not possible.

Speaker 2 Do you agree with that?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I wrote an extensive piece on it, just that, and I think it was published in Breitbart, and then the Air Post picked it up.

Speaker 5 But a former deputy director of national intelligence and the guy who did the presidential daily briefing for the commander-in-chief

Speaker 5 have an idea of how this types of access works. And you covered it.
21-year-old National Guardsman, even if you have a top-secret SCI clearance, doesn't mean you have a need to know.

Speaker 5 He certainly did not have a need to know to access under the law this type of intelligence about war planning operations, military movement, and the Saudi intelligence.

Speaker 5 It's some of our most closely kept and guarded secrets as it should be.

Speaker 5 So he did not, and I don't believe for one second he has acted alone.

Speaker 5 And I think the fact that the New York Times and the Washington Post were the first ones to break the story and investigation for the FBI, the same guys that did Russia Gate, and I'm maybe biased because I was the guy that ran the Russia Gate investigation and exposed it all, but this doesn't happen by coincidence.

Speaker 5 Somebody is covering up their tracks and somebody is looking for a scapegoat because the underlying crux of information shows that the current Commander-in-Chief, Joe Biden, and his administration have been lying to the world about the failure of our $115 billion in the Ukraine.

Speaker 2 Okay, so there's two subjects here.

Speaker 2 I want to talk about the leaks and what they tell you, but I want to stay first on how did this information, I want to make sure I understand and the audience understands.

Speaker 2 You can have a top secret clearance and you can log on to whatever that internet thing is is called

Speaker 2 what is it called

Speaker 2 the JWIC system yeah JWIC system you can log on to JWIC but you have to specifically know what you're it's not like it's just piles of documents sitting there you have to know what you're looking uh for and you have to go through other portals to be able to get this stuff correct yeah think of it this way think of it as a giant mansion that has multiple bedrooms that are locked with the goods and households, products of whoever lives there.

Speaker 5 Just because you have the key to the front gate with your top-secret SCI clearance doesn't mean you have the keys and the code to every single room in Bank Vault in that glorious mansion.

Speaker 5 Classified information works the same way. There are literally millions of federal employees who have a top-secret SCI clearance, but there are less than 0.5%

Speaker 5 of those employees who have the need to know compartmented code access to grant themselves access to this information because it's structured that way on purpose.

Speaker 5 Whether you can log into a system or walk into the vault room with all the paper documents, you are not by law permitted in the entry room,

Speaker 5 in the foyer even, unless you have been granted that need to know. And a 21-year-old international government doesn't have a need to know of this kind of information.

Speaker 2 So my researchers said that their gut said to them, somebody else that has access to these documents either sent them to him or whatever got them to him, and he's just a front guy.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's what I wrote.

Speaker 5 That's what I specifically came out and said before, as soon as the story was breaking and people were screaming at me, and I said, look, it's not about politics, Democrat, Republican.

Speaker 5 This guy has had this documentation and voting, putting it out for six months. That's a campaign.
That's not one page printed off and stolen off a printer and said, oh, here you go.

Speaker 5 Here's one piece of intelligence. There's hundreds of documents.
We don't even know the extent of it.

Speaker 5 And you can't access over that over a continued period of time as a 21-year-old Air National Guardsman in Cape Cod. It just doesn't work that way.

Speaker 5 Somebody, either a DOD or the intelligence community, either wanted this information out or he found someone who was wanted the information out like he did and helped him with that process and access.

Speaker 5 Look, if I'm wrong, I kind of actually hope I'm wrong, Glenn, and here's why.

Speaker 5 Because if I'm wrong, the other truth is even scarier, that our classification system is so broken and so destroyed that a rookie can walk in and go harness our nuclear secrets.

Speaker 5 That's what happens if I'm wrong. And it's not about me being right or wrong.
It's the alternative. It's so much worse.

Speaker 2 Well, that's what, you know, that's one of the things I keep coming back to. We should be talking about this because

Speaker 2 this guy either had somebody on the inside, or you're right. It's so porous that any of the millions,

Speaker 2 as you say, that have that top secret clearance can go in and get anything. And Americans need to know,

Speaker 2 not Republicans, not Democrats. This is all of us.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 No, you're absolutely right. And that's what's so striking about this.
And it's why it's riddled with analogies to Julian Assange.

Speaker 5 And whatever your political orientation is, you can't, I might be in the minority in this, but I don't justify this kind of behavior because it exposes waste, fraud, and corruption.

Speaker 5 There's a way to go about it, and this is not it.

Speaker 5 And so for those politically who are sharing this action because of the end result, that's not how the United States of America works because there's going to be a hundred guys behind him that do this if you permit this sort of justified disclosure of intelligence.

Speaker 5 And I disagree with that wholeheartedly. Okay.

Speaker 2 So now let's try to figure out: is there a pattern? in the leaks because they seem to be kind of all over the board.

Speaker 2 Some of them seem to be something that could have helped us with some of our, you know, frenemies.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 there was only really the only one that I saw that I thought was really damaging was the one that we have a spy at the, you know, in the Kremlin. That's, that's not good for the health of that spy.

Speaker 2 Who did this help?

Speaker 2 What side did this help?

Speaker 5 I think it was

Speaker 5 a combination of things.

Speaker 5 And what I mean by that is that you saw sort of a shotgun disclosure because the ultimate goal of what they wanted to disclose, in my opinion, based on what's out there, is the information regarding the Ukraine conflict.

Speaker 5 And the other disclosures were put out there to sort of have lines of effort to say, wait, let's throw some people off our tracks. That's another reason why I don't think this was done alone.

Speaker 5 This wasn't just some kid who's like, ah, I'm just going to throw up a bunch of pieces of paper in the air. Whatever you guys grab in this chat room, we can talk about.
No, no.

Speaker 5 It was very specifically done. And it was done with other people assisting him to do it, like the folks in the chat rooms who might also be government employees.

Speaker 5 I don't know who any of these people are, but apparently the New York Times and the Washington Post do. And maybe they want to go talk to them, at least the FBI, and figure it out.

Speaker 5 But it was done in this fashion. It's kind of going back to Assange.
He did it in a more streamlined fashion because he said he had a revolving door of information to put out.

Speaker 5 This may be the scenario here. This was just sort of the first shot.
Does he have other conspirators who have more information out there? We don't know that answer yet, and neither does the FBI.

Speaker 2 So does it appear to be the information that you have seen, does it appear to be a message that your government is lying to you and

Speaker 2 you have no idea what's going on in Ukraine?

Speaker 5 Or that to me, yeah. That's the central message to me.

Speaker 5 And you have to look at the characters that are involved. Chairman Milley, who used to work for me when I was chief of staff at DOD, has become the most political operative in Washington, D.C.

Speaker 5 And that's saying something when as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, by law, you are forbidden to enter politics. Wow.

Speaker 5 And he was the guy that said, hey, I'm going to call my Chinese counterpart if during the Trump administration, we are going to come after you.

Speaker 5 He has, one, broken the law by entering the operational chain of command.

Speaker 5 Two, the thing he wanted to achieve was a relationship with the incoming Biden administration because he wanted to keep his job.

Speaker 5 I think you're going to see see down the road people in senior DOD positions like that say, because it's going to come to a head, either Joe Biden lied to the world about the Ukraine and its status, or he was lied to about the intelligence about the Ukraine and said we were succeeding.

Speaker 5 The other piece is members of Congress were the gang of eight informed about the underlying intelligence.

Speaker 5 If that's accurate, then Congress also lied to America while saying the Ukrainian effort was a win or we were winning.

Speaker 5 And I think when you enter that fray and sort of have government officials target each other, somebody's trying to cover their own rear end.

Speaker 5 And we're going to find out when it shakes out. And I remember, Chairman Milley's leadership role is up in three months.
He's out. He's gone.

Speaker 5 And he's been no stranger to talk to media while in that seat, and especially when he leaves that seat. So I would say stay tuned, but it's a very suspicious line of effort.

Speaker 2 When you look at the information about the Ukraine, the war in Ukraine,

Speaker 2 describe it

Speaker 2 in relatable terms of people who are not really following it. They just know, you know, we're there.
We're doing stuff. It looks like it could get dangerous.
How bad is it?

Speaker 5 It's bad. We are doing everything but going to actually declare war.
When you spend $115 billion in less than a year, what you have to do is arm, man, train, and equip.

Speaker 5 What that means is it's cute by half. We don't have quote-unquote conventional American soldiers on the ground.

Speaker 5 That may be mostly true, but we have contractors, former United States military operatives on the ground, training them on tanks, training them on weapon systems, training them how to shoot, training them how to defend their positions, et cetera, because they can't do it alone.

Speaker 5 That all costs money. But the problem with Ukraine is it's going to be the modern gay Afghanistan.
They don't have an international banking system to access.

Speaker 5 So we have to give them literally pallets of cash. And we know how that's gone in the past.
And we have no idea where this money is going.

Speaker 5 And this is problematic for many reasons, but the most is the following. In a year, we are going to have conventional American forces on the ground in Ukraine.

Speaker 5 And we're going to be back into Afghanistan situation because everyone in Congress, or most of them, is bending the need of the defense industrial complex, which is the most corrupt organization in Washington, D.C.

Speaker 2 Wow, that's saying something.

Speaker 2 All right. Hang on just a sec.
I need to take a one-minute break. I've got a lot of follow-up questions

Speaker 2 on that.

Speaker 2 And I'd like to ask about the Nord Stream pipeline

Speaker 2 as well. All right.
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Speaker 2 So, Cash, you said just a minute ago, in a year, troops will be on the ground.

Speaker 2 Can you expand on that?

Speaker 5 Yeah, so when you, it's called operational preparation, the environment.

Speaker 5 And when you drop $115 billion into a theater of war, which is what the Ukraine is, regardless of your position, you are doing absolutely everything in your power to encroach upon a war and obtaining the political headline of saying we don't have boots on the ground.

Speaker 5 You don't take take it that far unless you are going to put and commit boots on the ground because the defense industrial complex is in charge of those decisions.

Speaker 5 Why do you think so many Democrats and Republicans are banding together? Because the defense industrial complex spends more money and gets more of our taxpayer dollar than any entity on earth.

Speaker 5 And when you invest that much capital into the Ukraine, the very next political forcing point is going to be we've already come 99% of the way. We now must commit troops.

Speaker 5 Now, it might come in the force force of U.S. troops

Speaker 5 in a U.N.-style program, but to me, there's no difference. Once we're there, we're there.
And we already have contractors there, and those are former military guys.

Speaker 5 And the Ukrainians, it's not like they're going to know what to do with our equipment a year from now or 10 years from now. And that's not on them.
It's just because it's our equipment.

Speaker 5 Are we going to leave it there?

Speaker 2 You know what we did in Afghanistan?

Speaker 2 Well, yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, you said we're shipping pallets of cash. That is so insane.
I don't know if anybody remembers this, but in World War II,

Speaker 2 because we had to drop cash off in Hawaii and in the Middle East, they had a different seal. You know, you have the little green seal with the, you know, E on it or whatever.

Speaker 2 It had a brown seal and a yellow seal. And that way, they could cut that money off if

Speaker 2 it wasn't just flooding the market. If they say, wait a minute, this has been stolen or whatever.
They could track the dollars because they had those seals.

Speaker 2 I don't know why we don't do things like that. We could have made all of that money in Afghanistan worthless overnight.

Speaker 5 We could have, but that's why we don't. It's an intentional decision.

Speaker 5 When Barack Obama flew pallets of cash to the terrorists in the mullahs in Iran, he did it without tracking devices and intelligence operations for a reason. He chose not to.

Speaker 5 When we pulled out of Afghanistan or when we were dropping off money into Afghanistan, only to watch their leadership, Karzai and Company, fly out of of Afghanistan with our money in helicopters.

Speaker 5 They did it without any sort of capabilities attached to it that we could. And they're going to do the same thing here.

Speaker 6 I mean, this is why, this is the, you don't have to believe me.

Speaker 5 Why is it that you think no member of Congress or no member of this administration can tell you where this money is going? They can only say, we don't have proof that it's not being abused.

Speaker 5 That's because you have no idea and aren't asking the questions and don't want to know the answer.

Speaker 5 It's going to be forced upon your feet like it was in Afghanistan.

Speaker 5 Because right now you can say, and the popular effort is, we must, must, must fund the Ukrainian war.

Speaker 6 And they're championing that political headline for the time being.

Speaker 5 It will evaporate.

Speaker 2 I have just about 90 seconds left. Any thoughts on Nordstream? Do you think we blew that up?

Speaker 5 If Joe Biden blew up Nordstream and didn't know how to do it without keeping it quiet, it just goes to show you why I've been saying he doesn't have a grasp on the national security apparatus of this country.

Speaker 5 Do we have the capabilities to do it? Yeah, sure, probably.

Speaker 6 But did did we do it?

Speaker 5 Honestly, I hope not. I honestly think the Russians did it and they're just using it as propaganda because it's an easy win for them.
We shut it down in the Trump administration.

Speaker 5 They turned it back on. And the Biden administration realized how explosively consequential it was to us and our allies to allow that to happen.
And now Russia, they're smart. They're not dumb.

Speaker 5 They can go down there and turn that thing off. blow it up and say, look at what America did.
We need a rallying call for the Ukraine. And they got one.

Speaker 2 All right. Cash, I like that.
I like that answer much much more than the answer I keep coming to, which is I think we did it.

Speaker 2 So I'm going to go with your answer.

Speaker 2 Thanks so much for talking to me, Cash. Cash Patel, you can follow him on his website, fightwithcash.com.
FightwithCash.com. His Twitter handle is cash's corner.
That's spelled with a K.

Speaker 2 Cash's corner. Corner is with a C.
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Speaker 2 So one of the guys who has been doing the real work, not the partisan work, but the real work

Speaker 2 on COVID is Senator Roger Marshall from Kansas.

Speaker 2 He has just released what I think is a shocking report um because this is again not partisan this is they went to the real experts and went through 50 000 documents to try to find out what happened and uh senator marshall is on with us now hi senator

Speaker 6 glenn good morning to you and your your listeners but but you're spot on that the preponderance of evidence shows that there were two lab leaks unintentional lab leaks in wuhan china the first one around september of 2019 they were able to contain that.

Speaker 6 But then when they were doing vaccine research is when the bigger leak occurred.

Speaker 6 And by the way, a significant amount of evidence shows that that virus was most likely made in the laboratory in Wuhan, China as well.

Speaker 2 So it's weird that nobody seems to be really reporting on this. This isn't a big deal.

Speaker 2 After everything that we have gone through as a society and all of the shout-downs, this is the exact opposite of what the government was saying. And now it looks really pretty clear.

Speaker 2 And it's amazing. For anybody who watches Blaze TV and my Wednesday night show,

Speaker 2 two years ago when we outlined this, I showed you that in September there was something going on.

Speaker 2 We thought it was the first lab leak

Speaker 2 because they changed all the air handling systems and everything else.

Speaker 2 Right?

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah, Gwen. It is getting that preponderance of evidence.

Speaker 6 All the intelligence points towards September 2019. Dr.
Xi takes down the DNA lab bank.

Speaker 6 They put up road barricades around the laboratory. There's decreased cell phone use as well.
All those things are happening. The epidemiology points towards a leak of some sort in September as well.

Speaker 6 But I think let's go back to why isn't the national media covering this? Look, I want to expose this because I don't want it to ever happen again.

Speaker 6 There's not a listener you have that was not impacted by this virus one way or the other.

Speaker 6 My grandson missed kindergarten because of this. I have a son with long COVID.
Many of us lost loved ones. We want to do everything we can to figure out the truth so it doesn't happen again.

Speaker 6 And by the way, China's had three years to come forward and tell us that they could just prove this if they wanted to.

Speaker 6 They would have the evidence to show, ha ha, here's the progenitor species, here's the intermediate species,

Speaker 6 here's the DNA lab bank, take a look at it. But if they show us this DNA lab bank that you're talking about, we would see the cousin, the father, the brothers of COVID-19 right there.

Speaker 6 They were doing this research with American dollars. Across the world, they were gathering viruses from bat caves.

Speaker 6 They were taking them back to laboratories in the Wuhan, biosecurity level two and three laboratories, and taking spikes off of one of them and putting them on the original SARS backbone.

Speaker 6 I mean, this is mad scientist stuff. It's scary.
I can't believe they would be doing it in that type of biocontainment situation.

Speaker 2 And EcoHealth was involved, right? They were the ones that took our money and were involved in all of this.

Speaker 6 Correct? Right.

Speaker 6 Yeah. So EcoHealth is one of the, I call the mafia godfathers that were involved with birogain of function research.
For the 20 years prior to this leak,

Speaker 6 EcoHealth obtained over $150 million of American taxpayer dollars. and were doing viral gain of function research.
And by the way, that was from 10 different government agencies.

Speaker 6 So Fauci wasn't just manning his, he had a $6 billion purse that he was allocating, but he was able to leverage that with other departments in the government, as well as money from the Gates Foundation, the Clinton Foundation as well.

Speaker 6 But they're in the middle of this.

Speaker 6 They have a huge responsibility. And by the way, they had no boots on the ground in Wuhan, China.
Nobody was there mining the store. We were just shelling out money.

Speaker 6 EcoHealth is simply a wholesaler taking American taxpayer money and they're still on the lamp. So we're pretty upset that that's not been stopped.

Speaker 2 And this is, they're still doing gain of function research in Wuhan. Somebody I know told me that the research that they're working on right now makes this look like child's play.

Speaker 6 Well, unfortunately, that's true.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 6 China themselves says that they feel bioterrorism is a threat to them.

Speaker 6 So just like they're responding to nuclear threats, they're going to respond to bioterrorism threats by developing countermeasures, vaccines, and aggressive measures.

Speaker 6 But we have good evidence to show that they're working with things like Ebola,

Speaker 6 MERS as well, things that have mortality rates of thirty percent.

Speaker 6 SARS-CoV-2 had a mortality rate probably of one percent or two percent when it's all said and done. But these other viruses have a thirty percent high chance of you dying if you catch it.

Speaker 6 So they're absolutely invested in bioterrorism research and what your listeners need to understand. In this these labs in Wuhan, there's multiple labs.

Speaker 6 There's multiple people that work for the military, scientists that work for the military that are engaged with President Xi, commingling with American taxpayer dollars.

Speaker 6 And all these things could be used for good, but then there's a huge downside. Just like, again, like nuclear energy can be used for good or you can build bombs.

Speaker 6 The problem is these bombs are exponentially more powerful and more easily accessible to terrorists.

Speaker 2 So this is really troubling and

Speaker 2 concerning that

Speaker 2 if Fauci's not being held responsible, EcoHealth isn't being held responsible, they're still doing these kinds of things. Fauci's not, but he was before he left.

Speaker 2 He's still doing these things with the same people.

Speaker 2 Is anyone here going to be held responsible?

Speaker 6 Well, that's exactly what we need to do. And this is why I believe we need a 9-11-style commission.
Get this out the bright lights of Washington. Let the facts be what they may.

Speaker 6 Let's get people that are not politically motivated to go through this. Again, we don't want this to ever happen again.

Speaker 6 And I certainly respect what we're doing on the House side.

Speaker 6 Brad Winstrump, a physician, is over there working hard on a COVID origin type of investigation.

Speaker 6 And Comer's got his stuff, and Jordan's got his stuff going on. We're visiting with them, sharing information.

Speaker 6 Of course, America gave the Democrats the gavel in the Senate, so we cannot leak the charge over here.

Speaker 6 The majority determines what those hearings look like.

Speaker 2 It's amazing.

Speaker 2 Senator, thank you for all of your hard work. work.
I know you are

Speaker 2 one of the good guys that is actually trying not to play a game with it, but actually get to the bottom of it. And I'm glad that there's a few people up on the hill like you.
Thank you.

Speaker 6 You're welcome, Gwynn. It's great.
I appreciate the boys that opportunity to speak with you and your audience. And

Speaker 6 we will get to the bottom of this. We don't want this to ever happen again.

Speaker 2 Thank you so much. Senator Roger Marshall from Kansas.
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Speaker 2 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. One thing we haven't talked about yet, and I'd like to get Bill O'Reilly's thoughts on this maybe tomorrow,

Speaker 2 is

Speaker 2 the settlement with Fox.

Speaker 2 They have settled for almost a billion dollars, three-quarters of a billion dollars.

Speaker 2 That is really going to hurt.

Speaker 2 I don't know if we know this anymore, but that's a lot of money. You know, when you're talking about the government, not necessarily so.

Speaker 2 When you're talking about a company, three-quarters of a billion dollars is going to make an impact on Fox, but it is better than losing the case.

Speaker 2 That would have been much worse.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I think there's something to take from that.

Speaker 1 I think for the whole media, by the way, including people on the left who are cheering this on every step of the way, this would have been very bad for, I think, media organizations generally.

Speaker 1 You don't think that there's a lot of text from Joy Reed about the stuff that she's saying on the air? Like, I don't think you want that out in the public. And, of course,

Speaker 1 while this wasn't a legal win for

Speaker 1 this case, I think

Speaker 1 there's a big incentive now for people to come out and try to take down media organizations they don't like. And I don't think that's a positive.

Speaker 1 You can question whether Fox handled all of that stuff right. I mean, you can certainly find

Speaker 2 quotes that you don't like.

Speaker 2 Their defense that I guess, and maybe you can help me out on this, they were not allowed to use.

Speaker 2 Their defense would be:

Speaker 2 we question things.

Speaker 2 The president president of the United States is saying this is true.

Speaker 2 That's a pretty big reason to cover it.

Speaker 2 And we didn't know at the time. We didn't necessarily believe it, but

Speaker 2 we're covering what the president is saying.

Speaker 1 Right. And they have texts saying they didn't believe it off the air.

Speaker 1 And they're contrasting that to mostly comments where they, like, there's a couple hosts like Lou Dobbs, for example, who seem to legitimately believe all of this stuff from Sidney Powell, but But most of them were just, you know, they brought him on.

Speaker 1 I mean, Tucker Carlson was famously very skeptical of what Sidney Powell was.

Speaker 2 He said the same thing we said when we had him.

Speaker 2 Really? Well, come back. He's trying to show us evidence.

Speaker 1 I mean, you know, you keep saying these things.

Speaker 1 You keep guaranteeing you're going to produce this evidence, and you're not doing it.

Speaker 2 Like, that's a problem. Come back when you have it.

Speaker 1 I think that's a totally fair standard. But I mean, like, what they seem to be requesting is a world which everyone acts like, let's say, MSNBC acted on this.

Speaker 1 They said, okay, the president is claiming this. These are lies.
This is the big lie.

Speaker 1 This is terrible.

Speaker 2 They're horrible people.

Speaker 1 Do you really want a news media that just makes judgments like that and tells you on now, look, you might think that all of those things were lies and you might think that all, you know, the election fraud stuff was BS.

Speaker 1 But like, even if you do. Do you really want the media to be pre-judging those ideas and giving them, putting them in a context like that all the time? I don't think that's their job.

Speaker 1 Their job is to ask questions of people in the news and try to get down to the bottom of it.

Speaker 1 But, like, if they're coming out and saying everything, we all know this is all lies, that's an opinion host. That's what I want out of an opinion host.

Speaker 1 I don't want that out of a news journalist necessarily.

Speaker 2 I mean, I think that's a

Speaker 2 weird motherfucker asking. This isn't the journalists.
This is the opinion. So, you're walking into opinion places now.

Speaker 1 Much of this was. I mean, Fox came out and ran news reports, debunking a lot of the stuff, I would say, that Sidney Powell was saying at the time, or at least attempting to.

Speaker 1 And that was not a defense. They didn't allow that as a defense.
They didn't allow it as a defense to just say, hey, look, the president of the United States is talking about this.

Speaker 1 It's obviously the biggest issue in the country. We should probably be discussing it.

Speaker 1 Unless you came out with visceral denunciation of what they were bringing to the table, you were vulnerable to this. And I don't know that that is a world.

Speaker 1 I mean, we see it with the topic we just talked about. They treated the COVID leak lab leak theory the same way they treated the big lie about the election.

Speaker 1 They came out and they said it was a lie and they said you should never listen to these people and it's a conspiracy theory and it's terrible. And then that one wound up being like seemingly true.

Speaker 1 So like,

Speaker 1 is there a lawsuit to be brought on that?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I mean, I just think that like...
You need to have a really wide berth for the media to be able to discuss these stories, even if they're wrong on them.

Speaker 1 You go back to the founding Glenn, you have documents in the museum that talk about how extensive the allowance was for the media at the beginning.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 the founders discussed and argued back and forth that you could be knowingly lying. Yeah.
Knowingly lying about the government.

Speaker 2 And the government has no place to say, you can't say that or you can't say this.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 sometimes the government might be lying. Sometimes the government may not be lying.
And you can't have the government be the arbitrator of it. It's got to work itself out.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So I just,

Speaker 1 you know, you should never be surprised by the way the media handles these things, right?

Speaker 1 Like, but the fact that they cheered this on every step of the way to try to take down their opponent, Fox News, is really short-sighted.

Speaker 2 Oh, so short-sighted.

Speaker 1 Because this is not.

Speaker 2 But they also know that

Speaker 2 Republicans, they're so spineless. They're not going to do anything.
They learn. We don't.
But they learn.

Speaker 2 And I think it's because we have too many spineless Republicans that agree with them, that we just don't ever get it together. They're committed.
And I think they're wrong.

Speaker 2 I think many of the things they're committed to is being used by real forces of evil.

Speaker 2 But they're committed.

Speaker 2 They don't stop. We just...

Speaker 2 Oh, geez. Oh, okay.
Well, we'll sit down. Yeah, I think that's true at some point.

Speaker 1 I think, especially with, if you're talking about like the general collection of Republicans in Washington, we often do see that happen, of course.

Speaker 1 But, you know, I mean, you have seen examples of just individuals on the right coming after the media and winning. I mean, Nicholas Sandman, you know, came out and won.

Speaker 2 Right. I would like to see what the Republicans are going to do with Dianne Feinstein.

Speaker 2 Are they going to let her get a replacement for a while or say no? She either shows up or she's gone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she steps down completely or she's gone.

Speaker 1 She's obviously completely incompetent, but she wants to hold on to this

Speaker 1 thing until she can come back.

Speaker 2 And they're saying, Republicans, you got to make that exception. No.
No, no. You don't have to do that.
Don't do it. But let's see how the Republicans react.

Speaker 2 The old Republicans would go, well, it's only the fair thing to do. No, it's not.
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 Stop compromising your values and the ideals and ideas that created this country.

Speaker 2 We'll see you tonight, 9 o'clock, Blaze TV.