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A story that has one unidentified source.

Oh,

an entire unidentified source?

Wow.

One nameless source.

But they feel pretty good about it.

Okay, good.

Now, they don't feel good about Seymour Hirsch and his one identified source.

That's immoral.

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Except this time with the Washington Post.

The man behind the massive leak of the U.S.

government secrets that has exposed spying on allies, revealed the grim prospects for Ukraine's war with Russia, and

ignited diplomatic fires for the White House is a young, charismatic gun enthusiast who shared highly classified documents with a group of far-flung acquaintances searching for companionship amidst the isolation of the pandemic.

What year is this story from?

What do you mean, the isolation of the pandemic?

Well, when they got together, that's when they all got together.

That's when they met.

Okay, so they did meet several years ago.

Now they were united, according to the Washington Post.

They were united by their mutual love of guns, military gear, and God.

A group of roughly two dozen, mostly men and boys, formed an invitation-only clubhouse in 2020 on Discord, an online platform popular with gamers.

But they paid little attention last year when the man, some called OG, posted a message laden with strange acronyms and jargon.

The words seemed unfamiliar to the group, and a few people read the long note.

One member explained, it was pretty boring.

But he revered OG, the elder leader of their tiny tribe who claimed to know secrets that the government withheld from ordinary people.

The young member read OG's message closely and the hundreds more that he said followed on a regular basis for months.

They were, he recalled, what appeared to be near-verbatum transcripts of classified intelligence documents that O.G.

indicated he had brought home from his job on a, quote, military base, which the member declined to identify.

O.G.

claimed he spent at least some of his day inside a secure facility that prohibited cell phones and other electronic devices.

I mean, it could have been a movie theater.

I don't know.

It could, this room could be used to document the secret information housed on government computer networks or spooling out from printers.

He annotated some of the hand-type documents.

Spooling.

What are they at?

A dot matrix printer?

Spooling?

It's the government.

Yes.

Yes, you're right.

They probably got a printer in 1987, and they're still using it.

And what military base has this?

I mean, this stuff is highly, highly classified.

You're not going into a military base and like, I'm just going to log on to the secret parts of the military.

Right.

Okay.

The member said he was translating arcane in Telspeak for the uninitiated, such as explaining that no foreign meant information in the document so sensitive it must not be shared with foreign nationals.

The members swapped memes, offensive jokes, and idle chit-chat.

They watched movies together, joked around, and prayed.

But OG also lectured them about world affairs and secretive government operations.

He wanted to keep us in the loop, the member said, and he then seemed to think that his insider knowledge would offer the others protection from the trouble world around them.

He's a smart person.

He knew knew what he was doing when he posted these documents, of course.

They weren't accidental leaks of any kind, said the member.

The transcribed documents OG posted traversed a range of sensitive subjects that only people who had undergone months-long background checks would be authorized to see.

There were top-secret reports about the whereabouts and movements of high-ranking political leaders, tactical updates on military forces, the geopolitical analysis, insights to foreign government efforts to interfere with elections.

If you could think it, it was in those documents.

In those initial posts, O.G.

had given his

fellow members a small sip of the torrent of secrets that was to come.

When rendering hundreds of classified files by hand proved too tiresome, he began posting hundreds of photos of documents themselves, an astonishing cachet of secrets that had been steadily spilling into public view over the past week, disrupting U.S.

foreign policy and aggravating America's allies.

Now, this account of how detailed intelligent documents intended for an exclusive circle of military leaders and government decision makers found their way into

and out of OG's closed community is based in part on several lengthy interviews with the Discord group member who spoke to the Washington Post on the condition of anonymity.

He is under 18.

He is a teenager.

The Post obtained consent from his mom to speak to him and record his remarks on video.

He asked that his voice not be obscured.

Wow.

So we've got a teenager.

who is the unidentified source, but they did talk to his mom.

Dozens of highly classified documents have been leaked online revealing sensitive material, blah, blah, blah.

The Post also reviewed scores of additional secret documents, most of which have not been made public.

So this is, the Post reported, revealed that a man in his early mid-20s allegedly shared them with members of an invitation-only Discord group.

He said, let's see,

the documents revealed profound concerns about the war's trajectory and Kiev's capacity to wage a successful offensive

against Russian forces.

According to the Defense Intelligence Agency assessment, among the leaked documents, negotiations to end the conflict are unlikely during 2023.

The files include summaries of human intelligence on high-level conversations between world leaders.

How could somebody on a military base just get into this?

I mean, if this is all true, and I it sounds pretty true, at least it sounds like the beginning of the truth how did this guy get this

if he's working on a military base

how did he get how did he get access to all of these things that seems to be a problem

uh the files include summaries human intelligence uh it includes intelligence on both allies and adversaries including iran and north korea as well as britain canada south korea and israel

Okay.

He released detailed

charts of battlefield conditions in Ukraine, highly classified satellite images of the aftermath of Russian missile strikes.

Others sketched the potential trajectory of North Korean ballistic nuclear missiles that could reach the United States.

Another featured photographs of the Chinese spy balloon that floated across the country in February, snapped from eye level, probably by a U-2 spy plane, along with a diagram of the balloon and the surveillance technology attached to it.

So this guy, I have to tell you, I don't know what his motivation was.

The kid says that he

had these access to these classified documents.

He was telling the group that he was preparing them for the world that they're living in because the government is lying to them.

Now, I don't know if he was grooming these kids.

I mean,

at this point, with what we know, don't write off that it was a FBI agent who is acting as a military official who had access that was dumping these online to get this group of kids who loved God and guns and their country to react.

Now, this kid seems

really level-headed.

He said he's not a Russian operative.

He's not a Ukrainian operative.

The room on the server where he posted the documents was called Bear vs.

Pig, meant to be a sny jab at Russia and Ukraine, and an indication that OG took no sides in the conflict.

OG had a dark view of the government, the young member said as he spoke of the United States and particularly law enforcement and the intelligence community, as a, quote, sinister force that sought to suppress its citizens and keep them in the dark.

He ranted about government overreach.

Now, when I hear that,

I don't think this guy was doing, what he did was heroic.

I don't think, I mean, the kid says he wasn't a whistleblower, but I do agree that our government is out of control.

The problem is law enforcement and the intelligence community,

they are suppressing information.

and they are suppressing people.

OG told his online companions that that government hid horrible truths from the public.

I believe that to be true.

He claimed, according to the members, that the government knew in advance the white supremacists intended to go on a shooting rampage at a Buffalo supermarket in May 22.

The attack left 10 dead, all of them black, and wounded three more.

O.G.

said federal law enforcement officials let the killings proceed so they could argue for increased funding, a baseless notion that the member said he believes and considers an example of his penetrating insights about the depth of government corruption.

Was there any documentation on that?

Right.

I mean, what was that?

We know we started this making fun of them for having one unnamed source.

It's hard to know how much of this is real.

Yeah, I know.

And what the motivations are aren't on anybody.

Discord servers eventually named Thug Shaker Central

signaled to members that they were free to hurl epithets and crude jokes.

The young member expressed some regret for their behavior, but seemed to shrug off the offensive remarks as a clumsy attempt at humor.

That's much more serious than these leaked documents.

I know.

So how can we cancel these people for the bad jokes they probably made online?

He told the Washington Post this wasn't a fascist recruiting server.

Think of that, a kid, teenager, is saying that to the Washington Post.

Right.

Again, like,

they want so badly to frame this in a certain way that they're like, well, we've got a 12-year-old or sorry, 13, he's a teenager, a 13-year-old could be 18, could be 18, could be 19 even.

And he's going to call his mom.

He's okay.

He's going to explain to us what is and is not a fascist recruiting operation.

I mean, is this journalism?

So listen to this.

The member said he is confident the authorities will find OG.

He recently talked to OG,

and he said he knew what he had done.

He said, I didn't mean to put anybody in harm's way and he sobbed on the phone.

He then said he's confident the authorities will find him, but when they do, he won't be charged.

Instead, he believes OG will be imprisoned without due process at Guantanamo Bay or disappeared to a black site if he's not assassinated for what he knows.

He says he will not divulge OG's identity or location to law enforcement until he's captured or can flee the United States.

I think I might be detained eventually.

I think there might be a short investigation on how I knew this guy, and they'll try to get something out of me.

They'll try to threaten me with prison time if I don't reveal his identity.

To date, no federal law enforcement official has contacted the young group member.

What?

Asked why he was prepared to help OG even at the risk of his own freedom, the young man replied, he was my best friend.

Help?

He went to the Washington Post and is telling them all these details about him.

That's not help.

I don't know.

And why hasn't the FBI

contacted him?

I don't know what to think about this story.

I can go anywhere, honestly, here from this kid is playing a prank on the Washington Post, all the way to everything he's saying is true.

To it's an FBI CIA plan.

Right.

I mean, you can go anywhere.

That's how little credibility the Washington Post has, the federal government has, and people have.

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He is

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many

different committees in Congress.

He is also

an amazing, he's just an amazing guy.

He is on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, the Appropriations Committee, the Select Sub

Committee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government.

We have a lot to talk to him about.

And he's a member of several Discord forums where he posts.

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We have him coming up in just a second.

And I don't know if you saw this, but the bank records

from the Chinese bank, Cathay Bank,

you know,

the select committee for the weaponization of government, and they're looking in now to all of the Hunter Biden stuff and the ties to China.

The committee went and asked all of the banks, we want your records on any business with Hunter Biden.

And all of the banks said no.

And then they call the Chinese bank in Los Angeles and the Chinese bank and hello?

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Yes, we got him.

We're going to send them right to you.

We didn't even ask for that.

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They're already in the mail.

They're They're already there.

They were more than happy.

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could

that be a message to the White House?

Chinese bank is turning over all of this information.

Now, the White House responded, that's ridiculous.

We've been really harsh on China.

I mean, we blew up their balloon.

We let it have its run across the country first, but we eventually got to blowing up their balloon and that was probably more expensive than the giant air force base that we gave them in afghanistan but the good news is we made sure to do it during the daytime so you could see it yeah there you go yeah there you go so um they are um

They're looking into Hunter's Bank.

China is flexing its muscles

and our allies are starting to back away from from us.

France has just said, yeah, we don't have anything to do with Taiwan and China.

It doesn't, it's not a European concern at all.

Really?

I wish we would say that about Ukraine.

That's really not a U.S.

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We have Congressman Chris Stewart on with us.

Hello, Chris.

Always good to have you on.

Good morning, Glenn

You are, of course, a national award-winning author.

You're really good.

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as a writer, and then you're like, no, I think I should go to Congress.

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Chris,

you are on all kinds of committees, and

I've got all kinds of questions.

So, let me start with the latest.

Did you read the Washington Post today?

Not yet.

What did I miss?

So, they say that, well, they have one source,

and it's a kid, but they did talk to his mom before they put him on record.

A kid says that he knows who the leaker is.

He was a guy in this group of about a dozen kids, and he worked on a military base

and would go in and just leak these documents to the kids.

I find that a little strange,

but I wanted to ask you because he worked on a military base and he said he had access to documents and servers that he could get in and see all these secrets.

How hard is that with the documents that you know and I know have come out?

How hard would what kind of classification would you have to have?

And do we have those kinds of SCIFs on military bases that would allow access to anything?

Yeah, well, a couple things, Glenn, if I could.

Number one is you said, did I read the Washington Post this morning?

I got to tell you, I don't read the Washington Post most mornings because

I mean not a trusted

source of information.

So, you know,

let's at least consider that.

Yeah.

But the other thing, too, is that I think there's probably two elements of this that are worth commenting on.

Number one is that most of the stuff that we've seen, in fact all of it, is classified top secret, which is actually one of the lowest classifications.

So it probably, there's thousands of people who probably had access to a lot of these documents.

And the second thing, Glenn, is that the whole presumption of the classification, number one is we overclassify a lot of things, and that's another topic, but some of these things, if you read them, you think, well, that doesn't seem terribly classified, and it seems actually fairly obvious.

And I think that's the case with some of these documents, although not all of them.

But my point is that the whole process only works if there's a presumption of trust.

And of course, there's some people that you can trust and you shouldn't trust, but it seems to me like there was a breakdown

more broadly, and that is

someone somewhere had enormous access.

And

over a long period of time, and it seems like with just extraordinary ease, was able to have access to these documents and then walk out of the building with them.

They didn't

break down through computers and get electronic access.

It looks like they had physical access things and actually were walking around with them.

That is actually quite surprising to me.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: So we're seeing now

with China, some of the leaks are about China and us not being able to

have war with them.

The Taiwan thing, where are we headed on that?

Is China,

I mean, if I were China with this president and this Pentagon, man,

I would, if it looks like somebody else is going to win the White House, man, I would make my moves right now on Taiwan.

Well, can they?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, they're close to that.

They're not quite where they want to be militarily.

But

military isn't the only consideration that they have.

One of the primary considerations, of course, is what you just indicated.

What do they estimate the United States will do?

What do they estimate the response of the leadership and the President of the United States would be?

And it's very, very clear.

And everyone talks about Afghanistan, but you really just can't.

overemphasize the importance of that, Glenn.

I mean,

as I've traveled around the world since then, I hear it all the time.

And not just from our friends, but from our adversaries as well.

I mean, they look at that and they just go think what fickle,

naive, weak leadership that was.

And by the way, it's not just President Biden, it's General Milley, it's General Austin.

Oh, I know.

They're the ones who presided over that.

I know.

And so there's no question that President Xi looks at that and goes, well, maybe now is the time.

And if I could share one personal experience I had, I was on another interview and they asked me, you know, well, what's the time?

I said, well, it's hard to say the analyst, of course, predicting the future, but I said, I think it's probably four to six years.

And that weekend I was called by

the former national security advisor, Robert, a very friend of mine.

And he said, no, Chris, I think it's probably closer to two years.

And then...

An hour later, I got a phone call from another very, very senior military officer who called me and said, Chris, I think you're wrong.

I think it's closer to two years.

Having been in the region recently, this much is very, very clear.

China China is preparing for war against the United States

over Taiwan, in the South China Sea.

They're preparing urgently, and I don't think the timeline

is a decade for sure.

It's probably not five years.

It probably is sometime between now and the next election.

What does that mean for us, Chris?

What does a world

with the United States at war with China and most likely with Russia.

What does that look like?

Yeah,

then that really is a key question.

What does that mean to us?

I was in Ukraine last week and

left there,

well, it was an interesting, interesting trip.

I'll tell you that, Glenn.

But one of the impressions I left there with was to those of us here in the United States who we've sent them, as you and I have talked about, tens per perhaps more than $100 billion.

But most Americans,

they may say, okay, well, we want to support that.

It's a lot of money.

But as far as it affects how we live day to day, it does not.

I mean, we're completely unaware of it.

Now, President Biden will blame the price of fuel on the war in Ukraine, but that's nonsense.

That's not the reason for that.

It's because of his own policies.

But

when and if there is a war

over Taiwan,

every single one of us will feel it every single day.

And I'll give you one illustration.

There's a recent analysis that said we would have a 9% reduction in our GDP the first year

from only from the inability to access the chips and especially the exquisite chips.

9%.

The Great Depression reduction in GDP the first year was 7.5%.

Oh my gosh.

And Glenn, that doesn't count because we haven't yet finished the analysis on the reduction in GDP from the fact that you're not going to have container ships leaving China and coming to the United States or coming to the West.

We're just simply not going to continue to trade with them.

So, when you ask what does it mean, I mean, the economic consequences of this are hard for us to imagine.

Chris, why are we not having these conversations?

Why is it?

It just seems like everything just happens.

They just continue on with their, I think, diabolical plans,

and

nothing happens.

I mean, Merrick Garland, Garland, I know you're on the weaponization committee.

Merrick Garland has lied, lied to the committee about

who they're surveying or surveilling and who they're trying to rope in as

FBI informants.

He said, we're not doing this with Catholics.

We're not targeting.

And now we find out that, yeah,

yeah, they are targeting Catholics.

And he's not going to pay a price.

When does someone pay a price for any of this stuff?

Yeah, Glenn, I've been asking myself that question for six years because you go back to the initial Russian hoax and the fact that Director Comey lied to Congress again and again and again.

And then listen, when he was finally put under oath under deposition, you may remember something like 257 times he says, you know, I don't remember.

Well, that's nonsense.

Of course he remembers.

I mean, that's a non-responsive witness.

If that would have been anyone else, they would have been charged with perjury for saying that.

What about McCabe?

What about Lisa Strzok?

What about, I mean, or Peter Strzok?

I mean, you go down the list.

It just keeps going.

And all the time we're asking, where is the accountability?

Now, there is some good news, and I don't want to be Pollyannish about this, but it is actually, I think, a positive step forward.

And that is we have to reauthorize 702 and FISA this fall.

And we're simply not going to do it.

And as strong as an advocate as I am for national security, as someone who understands the value of intelligence, I would rather lose the tool than have the tool continue to be weaponized and continue to be used against the American people.

There's a number of us in Congress who are saying we simply won't reauthorize this unless there's enormous reforms put in place first.

And it's one of the primary things we're concentrating right now on the intelligence committee.

Oh, man,

I hope you guys stand firm on that.

And I mean, it would have to be enormous reforms

because

that whole thing is a cesspool.

And with these leaks, the story out today is that Biden is looking again at

different ways he can monitor and capture all of the information on the web and surveil.

I mean, we know what they're doing against the United States, the people of the United States.

Two thoughts, Glenn, if I could.

Number Number one, as you may know, that we subpoenaed

the director and others yesterday on the weaponization committee regarding this absurdity of targeting Catholic diocese, Catholic congregations.

I mean,

show me any reasonable person in the country who thinks that

one of the threats to our security are believing Catholics, for heaven's sakes.

It's beyond absurd.

And that's good.

I mean, we need to to bring them in under oath, once again, and have an ability to question them.

But the second point, Glenn, that you bring up is this.

You know, the United States government has extraordinary powers to surveil by themselves,

but they also have brought in the entire industry around them.

Yes.

You know, Facebook, Twitter, et cetera, et cetera, as a partner.

And if, for example, it's illegal for the United States to assassinate someone, they can't target a foreign leader, for example, and tell the CIA, go and assassinate that person.

That's illegal.

They can't do it.

But if they hired someone to do that and they did it for them, it would be exactly the same thing.

And it would still be illegal.

And that's what the government has done essentially with surveillance and with suppression of free speech,

with the weaponization of many of these tools, is they don't do it themselves.

They go to these tech companies and say, we want you to do it for us.

And we're going to compel you.

We're going to intimidate you.

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Now, they don't have to threaten them very often or very hard because it turns out these tech companies are more than willing to do this for the United States government.

But the fact that they work with a partner is

still offensive and wrong as much as if they had done it themselves.

And once again, it's one of the things that we're trying to address and trying to expose.

So, one more question.

I've only got about 90 seconds max on this, but tell me,

are we standing firm on Congress Congress

bringing back the power of the purse?

Are we going to fold again?

Yeah, we'll see, Glenn.

I mean, you've got the Republican House, and many of us are saying that is the only tool that we have.

And in fact, it is the only tool that we really have.

And that is to say, we're just not going to fund you.

But we don't control the Senate.

So the House is going to push a lot of these things.

For example, I'm not going to give a penny to the new FBI headquarters until Christopher Wray comes in and answers answers a boatload of questions.

Under oath in a way where he has to go to jail.

You know,

you just said Comey answered, you know, I don't remember when he was under oath.

Well, he was under oath in Congress, but nobody cares.

Nobody cares about that oath, it seems.

Yeah, it does.

It seems like that's something different.

But back to the original question, Glenn, is the House is going to defund some of these efforts.

and I think we're going to be broad and deep in some of those.

But, of course, then that budget goes to the Senate, and we'll see what Schumer does.

Because, well, you know what he'll do, and he won't.

And that's where the fight is going to take place.

And that's the way we won't know the answer to that until sometime this summer or this fall when we actually have to fund the government, and we'll see how strong the Republicans will stand.

Chris, thank you very much.

I can't imagine being any of you guys who are are trying to do your best in Washington.

I just can't imagine the frustration.

But thank you.

I should have taken a job and come and worked with you.

I know you should have.

Huge mistake.

I told you.

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So, CNN has been forecasting doom for Fox News.

They say it is over for Fox because the trial begins next week.

Now, this week they are doing jury selection.

You know, I have to tell you,

I'm not sure what it means.

Nothing good, but I'm not sure what it means.

The worst case scenario is this will affect everyone's free speech.

I wanted to get Bill O'Reilly on to talk about a little bit of this because I'm going to, he's going to be paying attention to this like nobody's business because this is what he does

and I'd like him just to give us the updates as this trial goes on Bill O'Reilly joins me in just 60 seconds I look for quality quality at a good price in almost everything and meats I don't want the imported stuff yeah I know it has the little you know product of the USA that's not true it could be shipped over here dead or alive from China or Brazil as long long as they cut it here to the steak, then it's a product of the U.S.

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I shouldn't even ask you because I know how you're going to say.

No, you don't know what I'm going to say, Beck.

I'm full of good ideas today.

I appreciate being on the Gwen Breck show, the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

Yeah, well, that's what we are.

And then also sometimes Bill O'Reilly.

And that's both.

So, Bill,

let's talk about what's going on beginning.

Are they expecting the trial to start next week?

We should have the jury picked, right, by the end of this week.

Yeah.

Well,

look,

anything could happen in these things, as you know.

I mean, litigation is chaotic, but the judge in this case wants to move it along.

And the jury is the jury in Delaware.

You know, both sides, both lawyers on each side, they get to pick people that they feel don't know anything.

And that's the truth.

They don't want smart people on the jury who watch Fox News or may understand the core problem here.

They They want people who have no idea, so they're not biased.

It's in Delaware.

Why is it in Delaware?

Is Fox a Delaware corporation?

The

Dominion people are registered there.

Okay.

Many corporations are registered in Delaware because they have very low corporate taxes.

Correct.

Dominion, the voting machine, just for you, and I'm sure most of your listeners know this, they say that their company got severely damaged because Fox News and Newsmax and One America, and there are lawsuits against those two as well,

lied about

what the voting machines did in the 2020 election.

And

that is true.

So the voting machines in Da Vinion, there hasn't been one shred of evidence produced that says those machines threw threw votes to Joe Biden.

And the Trump people,

Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, they were running around saying this, and Fox News gave them a forum, in many cases, unchallenged.

So that is the heart of the lawsuit.

Now, there's only one

thing involved here, and this is what makes it fascinating.

A reckless disregard for the truth.

That's what the Dominion law lawyers have to prove to the jury that doesn't know anything.

A reckless disregard for the truth.

That means that when these guests appeared on Fox News, the interviewers and the hierarchy of Fox, Rupert Murdoch on down,

all knew this was bogus.

There was no solid evidence against Dominion.

Okay?

That would be a reckless disregard for the truth.

So they allowed someone to come on, say false things unchallenged.

Okay, so wait a minute.

Bill,

I can, well, I had Sidney Powell on, and,

you know, I said, that's great.

If you have that,

you should produce it.

Well, I am going to.

Well, when you produce it, I'll have you back.

So that's not a reckless regard.

No, that's a reasonable approach.

Correct.

Now, so the recklessness comes from because I could have believed her, but I didn't because she would have produced some evidence.

So I could have believed her.

I might not have believed her, but I could still have her on.

The problem here with Fox is they had her on over and over and over again, right?

Yeah, but it was more than that.

So according to the depositions and the internal documents that Dominion got from Fox, they had to hand them over.

That at the same time Sidney Powell and Giuliani and other people were saying that Dominion did X, Y, and Z, they knew that Dominion didn't do it.

So, I mean,

that's pretty tough.

That's pretty tough to overcome, and that's what Fox's burden is.

Now, a couple of other things you'll find interesting.

There isn't one media operation in this country, not one of any note, that wants Fox to win this.

They all want Fox to lose it and be destroyed because from day one,

that's what the corporate media has wanted, destroy Fox News.

Correct.

And number two, cameras in the courtroom are not there.

That helps Fox

because if the cross-examination of Rupert Murdoch and Tucker Carlson, the other people, it's going to be brutal.

It's going to be brutal.

And if it were on camera, then that video would be everywhere.

Now, the American people and world, anybody watching around the world, will have to rely on the print press primarily to tell them what's going on in the courtroom.

Now, that's going to be brutal too, but it's not as bad as seeing it with your own eyes.

Correct.

So,

what does this mean, not just to Fox, but if Fox loses,

does this affect the rest of us?

Not really, because

I sat in that chair for more than 20 years

at Fox.

I didn't get sued ever

because I put the opposite point of view on.

If you had a provocative thesis or hypothesis that Dominion or anybody else was cheating in the election, I'll put you on,

but I'll cross-examine you hard.

That's what I do.

But I'll also put the other side on, which isn't hard hard to do, Beck.

That's not hard.

So, is that if you do that,

then there's no malice.

So, is that how CNN gets away and all the other media corporations get away with

the whole

Russiagate experience?

They

pounded that.

But here's the difference:

there was no

monetary damage done to any person or corporation is a phony Russia gig thing.

Trump?

So some Americans could, and still to this day, statute of limitation has not run out.

You could file a class action lawsuit against CNN and NBC News.

You could do that.

It costs you millions of dollars, so you'd have to get somebody to pay for it.

But you could say that

there's a fraud.

There's a reckless disregard for the truth on those networks because they promoted a phony story, Russian collusion.

You could do that,

but it's a lot harder to win that kind of a theoretical lawsuit

than this one.

Because of the monetary harm.

Yeah, you've got to show damages.

Dominion says they can show it.

I don't know.

I don't know.

But I think that, you know, the jury, the people who don't know anything,

the only thing that they're going to focus in on is reckless disregard to the truth so behind the scenes fox news commentator whoever said this

but on the show they said that

that's going to be tough for fox what does it mean if fox loses for them well mass layoffs number one

because they're going to take a huge hit remember the jury can apply punitive damages against Fox in addition to the $1.6 billion.

And they don't have to award Fox $1.6 billion.

They can award, I'm sorry, Dominion.

They can award Dominion $800 million or whatever, okay?

And then a judge can also temper the money.

But you've got to assume that this is going to be, if they lose, FNC loses, they're going to pay an enormous amount of money.

They've already paid more than $50 million in legal fees.

Some of that is covered by insurance, but they're going to hemorrhage money.

That's number one.

So they'll have to lay off a ton of people over there.

And number two, it shatters them forever

as being a legitimate news agency.

But the core people who watch Fox, the older, very conservative people, will continue to watch.

Right.

They're not going to bail.

They'll never bail

because there's nowhere else to go.

Right.

And the audience keeps getting smaller and smaller on all cable news.

Particularly the younger audience.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're gone at Fox News.

They never existed on the others.

But you mentioned CNN and the word doom.

CNN knows a lot about doom, Beck.

They keep

keep seeming to carry on.

I don't know, but they do.

Bill, thank you very much.

I appreciate it.

We'll talk to you again when the trial starts

and

get your take on it.

Thank you so much.

All right.

Thanks for having me.

You bet.

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Missouri is trending on Twitter today for some, I thought, some unknown reason.

And I'm like, why is it Twitter?

Did Missouri make some sort of offensive joke?

Well, kind of.

While debating legislation that bans gender-affirming care for minors, the bill's sponsor, Missouri State Senator Mike Moon, expressed his support for children as young as 12 getting married to each other.

When pressed by

state rep Peter Meredith about a different bill Moon voted against in the past, which would make it illegal for adults to marry children, Moon doubled down on his support for underage marriage.

Do you know any kids who have been married at the age of 12?

Because I do, and guess what?

They're still married.

Okay.

I think he's talking I mean, I'm hoping he's talking about two people that are 12, or maybe one's, you know, 13 or whatever, but not an adult marrying a 12-year-old.

Because otherwise, I got to get my tooth out and polish it up and get my banjo out and start singing some songs about 12-year-olds married to 30-year-olds.

But I think he's just talking about two 12-year-olds.

That used to be, by the way, the stereotype of what you would say for a 30-year-old married to a 12-year-old.

I think we should start using Hollywood, though.

Yeah.

As the Hollywood and musicians seem to be the ones really actually partaking in that particular activity.

It's like, it's so great.

She's 12.

Okay, great.

How many songs are written like that?

There's such a weird collection of songs going back, hitting ages like 16,

15.

If Pat were here, he would, and he would have them all.

He would have them all.

And he would also tell you the story of

who's the guitarist that basically imprisoned like a 14-year-old for multiple years.

So no one ever did anything about it.

I can't remember.

I don't want to say that.

I was going to say Jimmy Page.

Okay, right.

Maybe.

I don't know.

By the way, anyone who's filing like a Dominion-based lawsuit, you heard Glenn say the name Jimmy Page.

I'm going to have to.

A pro-Jimmy Page is not a 12-year-old.

Not a diddler.

Not a diddler.

Not a diddler.

We'll have that coming up.

So anyway, Senate Bill 49 passed in the Republican-controlled assembly by a vote of 106 to 45 with just two Republicans voting against it, along with the outnumbered Democrats.

That is the gender-affirming care ban.

The bill needs another House vote for it to move to the state senate, which the Republicans also control by a 24 to 10 margin.

So

that's good.

I don't know any, you know, any 12-year-olds that got married?

Not

that are still together.

Sometimes those relationships fizzle when they hit those elder ages of 14 and 15.

Yeah, well, you know, kids, they're so fickle.

Trade them in for a new model, is at least what they say.

I never thought I I would be married to an 18-year-old.

I got to get rid of your ball and Jane.

Trade her in for a younger model.

I do believe we did a segment a while ago mocking some of the

rest of the world's laws.

And

there is an age of consent law.

And I want to say it's, again,

if Saudi Arabia is listening, do not sue me for this if I'm wrong.

I think it was Saudi Arabia that has a 12-year-old age of consent law.

Sorry, they don't sue okay i just put you in a blender they don't seem litigious yeah i mean i might go into a meeting and never walk out of it but right uh you know but i think it was a 12-year-old age of consent in saudi arabia so perhaps you know the harvey weinsteins and all of his buddies should just move over there nothing wrong with that nothing wrong with that uh all right let me uh let me

let me also uh tell you about uh

Joe Biden's uh trip over to uh Ireland.

It's been good.

He's been doing well.

Yeah.

Do we have the clip of his speech?

Here it is.

As a matter of fact, as you walk into my office in the Oval Office in the United States Capitol.

Really?

Guess what?

What?

You know who founded and designed and built the White House?

Who?

An Irishman.

That's an Irish job.

No, not a joke.

Oh, it's not a joke.

It's not a joke.

It's not a joke.

No, because it was so funny.

I was hilariously laughing there, and then he stopped me.

Because I was like, there's no way an Irishman could have done something like that.

Well, an Irishman also is responsible for all of our maps here in the U.S.

Really?

Rand McNally.

Hello.

Great.

Hello.

Thank you.

No joke.

No joke.

I didn't think it was a joke.

Yeah, no joke.

Seems very serious.

He also went on a, quote, walkabout.

I love it when these cool, cool presidents go on walkabouts.

And he was on a walkabout and he went into a pub

and he said, hey, see my tie?

Is this the clip of it?

Do we play this clip?

Do you see this tie half when the Sherman College?

This was given to me by one of these guys right here.

He was a hell of a rugby player.

Wasn't it?

Hello, black and tans.

Oh, God.

But it was when you were at Soldier Field, wasn't it?

Chicago.

Chicago.

And after it was all over,

he gave my brother.

Allegedly for me, but if it wasn't, I still took it.

Stop.

Okay, the problem with that is he's trying to be so relatable.

The Black and Tans, no, it was a team called the All Blacks because they wore all black.

Black and Tans

were the anti-Irish police that

before, I think they were disbanded in 1921, that used to beat up and kill or leave for dead the Irish people.

So he's got it

mixed up, but he said his Irish heritage is so strong and he cares so much about it.

So strong.

I will say though

in his defense.

Yeah.

And you know, the left would never do this for us.

They would never defend a Republican or a conservative in a situation like this.

No.

We strive to be fair.

Yes.

And in that statement, he did not say, not a joke.

So we have to assume it was a joke.

And that's why people were laughing at him.

I'm going to be even more fair.

Okay.

He's senile.

Okay.

He has no idea what he's even talking about.

Well, sure.

He shouldn't be near a microphone or a button of any kind.

He should be sipping pudding out of a spoon held by someone else.

Just trying to be fair.

Give them the fairness that we'd like from the other side from time to time.

You know, tell the truth.

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I say shocking because they come from Texas, shocking stories on july 25th 2020 sergeant daniel perry he was working as an uber driver in downtown austin he was caught in a blm protest and a group of blm activists encircled his vehicle and then garrett foster one of the protesters raised an ak-47 at perry

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Would you have done the same?

It seems rational given those circumstances.

You're afraid for your life.

Apparently in Austin, you don't get that choice.

Last week, Austin's prosecutor, Jose Garcia, who is a George Soros guy, won his case in charging Perry with murder.

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let me tell you another story here.

This is from the New York Post.

It happened in a Target store,

Karen Ivory.

She is

gone shopping.

She has a big cart of groceries, maybe two carts.

They ring it up and it's $1,000 worth of groceries.

And Karen looks at the cashier and says, that's an outrage.

I want to see your manager.

Okay.

Well, the...

The cashier goes to

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I have this lady.

She's been talking crazy stuff.

She's talking about reparations the whole time, but she wants to talk to you.

So she's talking to the manager.

The customer first asked for reparations,

and then she grew angry when the target manager said, what?

And she walked, quote, aggressively toward the manager.

Ivory kept berating the manager about reparations and her privileged life.

That's when Zach Cotter, the loss prevention officer, not a security guy, the loss prevention officer, intervened and asked Ivory to calm down and leave the store.

Ivory then began screaming at the security guy, followed him to his office.

When he tried to shut the door, Ivory alleged forced her way into the office, caught her through a punch.

Ivory fell to the floor after the wall-up.

Okay.

Now, a separate video shows the aftermath in the office as one of the cops tells Ivory that he has the goods on her through video evidence, in particular, security guard who feared for his safety after Ivory backed him into an office.

And she said, When people are backed into a corner, they can choose to do the right thing or they can choose to lash out.

I just am holding the line when the cops say to her, Can you just calm down?

No, I held the line and he moved my line continuously and they were just gatekeeping me.

Ma'am, can you calm down?

They're gatekeeping me.

If the laws are meant to hold the people down, you will fight for me and my community.

You'll come for me and don't even start with me.

This is my Rosa Parks moment, dude.

Don't play with me.

Okay.

All right.

So the free groceries were the Rosa Parks moment?

Yes.

Then she should move from Ohio and she should move to California.

California, the current proposal for reparations from the state of California, $360,000 for the roughly 1.8 million black residents in the Golden State that have at least one ancestor who was a slave.

It could cost the state up to 800 billion.

Now, I would say if you have that, you should move to California, get the reparations.

But why just move to California?

You should actually move to San Francisco because San Francisco, they're a little upset that the press is just paying attention to all the money thing because that's the least important part of this.

Well, if it's the least important part, then why are you offering so much?

But anyway,

what they've decided to do is

they're going to make five million dollar payments.

So if you have one person in your family tree that was a slave, you're going to get $5 million

and

they're going to eliminate your personal debt and your tax burdens.

And

they're going to guarantee you an annual income of $97,000 a year, but only for the next 250 years.

And

you can have a house in the city for a dollar.

What else?

I know.

I know.

What else?

I know.

That's nothing.

That's nothing.

We're talking slavery.

It looks like this is going to pass in San Francisco.

I mean,

what is the cost of the total cost again?

Well, that for the state is $800 billion.

$800.

That's two and a half times the state's annual budget.

But that's not what San Francisco is proposing.

There's no budget on, they have no

estimate on a final price of that.

But, you know, hey, that's, I mean, I think a guaranteed annual income for 250 years is

the right thing to do.

This is the sensible landing point for this nonsense, right?

It is.

Eventually, one of these states, they actually do approve this.

obviously, the state goes bankrupt, and tons of people move out because

they can't have a business or hold a job there because the economy has collapsed.

And at some point, you just hope that there's a revolt.

Well, will there be?

I don't really.

Will there be?

I mean,

so that's what's happening in California.

Let me tell you what's happening in your country with your tax dollars.

We are borrowing $6 billion

every single day.

$6 billion.

What are we getting for it?

That's a sincere question.

What are we getting for it?

The national debt is $31 trillion.

It will grow another $19 trillion.

Assuming nothing else goes wrong or they want to spend more, $19 trillion in growth by 2023.

That means

every taxpayer owes a quarter of a million dollars and every American owns $94,000.

Every single man, woman, and child.

Okay.

Now,

that means that currently we owe 130%

more than our gross domestic product.

That's all products and services produced in a year by labor and property that was supplied by the citizens.

Interest on that debt

is now estimated this year to be almost $400 billion.

That is more money just on the interest

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This year,

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In 10 years, our interest payment will exceed the entire military budget.

Now, every time we hire a politician to go in, Rutherford has a great piece on this.

You've got to read it.

It's at Rutherford.org.

And he writes that

every time we elect people,

what happens?

We elect them, and they promise that they're going to pay down the national debt, they're going to jumpstart the economy, they're going to rebuild our infrastructure, they're going to secure our borders, ensure our security, make us healthy, wealthy, and happy and wise, and it's going to be a picnic.

Have we ever had that happen?

None of that ever happens.

And we're being loaded down with debt.

And it has gotten to the point now where Congress doesn't vote on any of this.

This is all the president's staff doing it.

The entire administrative state, they're making all the decisions and all of the laws.

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Nefarious opens up up in theaters.

I'd like to say nationwide, but there's clear, clear states where Nefarious is not going to be shown.

New York City, I don't think you're going to be able to find it.

Opens tomorrow.

Really?

I was just reading about it.

I'm pretty excited to go see it.

I didn't get to get to the premiere when it was going on.

So I'm hoping to go see it this weekend.

I was just reading review.

Oh, a review.

I was going to say, why do I feel like there's a shoe about to drop?

No, the review is really good.

I mean, I think, you know, like they say pretty good things about the movie generally.

Yeah.

You know, and of course, it's a faith-based movie here, right?

So, like, they don't give all positive reviews.

Of course, yeah, sure.

And really, most of it they're pretty positive on, with the exception of one thing.

There was one thing they just did not like.

I will say.

Okay.

To be fair, and I know Steve Dace wrote the book that led to this movie.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But to be fair, there's one thing they hated

in this movie.

The reviewer.

Well, I'll just keep, should I give you just the sub-headline here?

Because this isn't the main headline.

Give me the headline, or I guess.

The main headline is: Nefarious uses horror to tell a faith-based story, period.

Okay.

But Glenn Beck's cameo is really scary.

Now, I admit, my face is the size of two school buses.

It's really frightening.

And then there is a sub-headline.

You have an entire set.

Now, your cameo was not that long, right?

Was it most of the movie?

Because it seems like.

No, it's like five minutes, maybe.

Okay.

Yeah.

Because they say about that five minutes, it's just titled Glenn Beck Doesn't Belong in Any Movie.

It was that bad.

Was it the face?

Was it the fat?

Shockingly, they do not mention your weight at all, which I, again,

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It says,

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He oozes sincerity and compassion, which I think is a compliment on your acting.

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That is literally how the section ends.

The word ugh.

I think that's worth seeing now.

Don't look directly at me on the screen.

It's horrific, but it is a horror movie.

It is on the old, oh my gosh, he's let himself go.

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If you really want to understand why Bud Light

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you know, the campaign and they don't seem to flinch, they don't really care.

If you don't understand it, it's because you don't understand ESG, you don't understand the scoring, you don't understand CEI,

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James, how are you?

Hey, I'm good.

Good to have you on, man.

Yeah, good to talk to you.

Yeah, so

last night,

I was trying to explain to the audience, and I thought,

you're the guy who can really explain it really, really well.

But it's...

The world that we live in is no longer a free market world.

When corporations sat in their boardroom years ago, they would try to decide what was best for the shareholders and what was best for the shareholders was creating a product that the public wanted.

That's no longer their concern because you have BlackRock and everybody that is dictating or they'll sell the stock or fire people on the board and replace them.

You have all of these activists that will just make their life a nightmare.

You have the insurance companies and the banks who, if they're not doing the right thing with the right score,

they're not going to participate with you.

And you have the government breathing down your throat.

So

is the average

consumer even considered anymore in the boardrooms?

Barely.

The average consumer doesn't have anything like the power that even in large numbers of average consumers don't have anything like the power that these big financial institutions in collusion with the governments have over these corporations.

So not so much.

That's why

the reaction to go boycott these companies, yeah, maybe it sends a message, but all you're doing is telling them that you're unhappy about something that they know you're going to be unhappy about, that they didn't take you into consideration when they did the calculation to do it in the first place.

So maybe it has a small effect.

Maybe it gets their attention.

Maybe

enough of these will get some attention.

But for the most part, they are beholden to other forces that are not the consumer.

They are not any of the traditional base of economic activity in a market.

I was talking to a fairly successful businessman a couple of days ago, and he said, well, It's assuming we're in a free market, which I'm not sure.

And I immediately responded, we're not in a free market anymore.

This is no longer capitalism as we know it.

This is more fascistic in nature,

but it's not a free market.

Would you agree with that?

Yeah, that's correct.

I don't think that we've had a free market in the United States in a number of years.

When it actually tipped over, I think it's been a gradual process.

So it'd be hard to pinpoint and say, oh, it was 2015 or some specific year.

But these tools like ESG that we're talking about are much older than people realize.

ESG was devised at the United Nations by a man named James Gifford in 2003.

And it was devised to the purpose that it's being used for today, which is how do we take all of that latent money that's tied up in pensions?

All these people put their retirements away for 30, 40 years.

All that money is just sitting there.

It's not being invested in things that could have a social or an environmental impact.

How do we take that money and do social and environmental activist investing with it instead?

And they came up with that

20 years ago.

And it's grown

in scope over the past 20 years, and it's come to the point now where they are controlling, like you said, in a very fascistic manner, how the market is going to operate using that gigantic reservoir of money that they figured out how to tap into.

Can you explain CEI and the scoring system?

Yeah, CEI is actually pretty simple.

This also is older than people realize.

This is probably, for a lot of people, the first week they've ever heard of the Corporate Equality Index, but it was devised in 2002 at the Human Rights Campaign, which was a gay civil rights organization that eventually in the 2006, 7, 8 era seems to have received a large amount of money from the Open Society Foundation and George Soros' foundation and changed its direction to being very activist-driven in a new way.

And they've started, in 2002, they started this equality index to show how well, to score companies on how well they are

picking up with with social causes related to the gay rights and the LGBTQ agendas.

And

this score is very useful because it's a part of the F, the social justice part of the ESG score.

So it's very useful to these

banks like BlackRock that are trying to figure out, well, is Nike or Coca-Cola or in this case, Anheuser-Busch and Bud Light, are they doing their part

and

to be socially corporate responsible?

And so

they use this score, and it has a number, it's scored out of 100.

They use this score to determine, are you having internal policies at your company that are LGBTQ friendly?

Are you going out of your way and bending over backwards for them inside the company?

Are you making

LGBTQ visibility into the public?

Are you behaving in a corporate responsibility manner?

And they give you points based on whether or not you do these things.

And they can take away points if you do something they don't like.

And if you don't have a 100 CEI score, you're not listed as the best place to work.

And all kinds of consequences start to follow.

So much so that corporations brag about earning their 100 for the first time and on their websites and put out press releases.

And there are over 840 American corporations that have a 100 score from this human rights campaign corporate equality index score.

And it's really not just about equality or, you know, treating people right or having an open workspace or anything like that it a lot of that score comes from your advertising and your your social outreach and promoting these things so Dylan Mulvaney makes total sense when you understand

the

CEI score correct yeah that's right that's exactly right Glenn

they come to you the the HRC the human rights campaign sends

agents every year to tell you what you have to do as a corporation in order to promote more LGBT visibility, to promote LGBT activism and social change.

And if you want to have your score go up or you want to maintain your 100, you have to meet all these new demands.

This is, in other words, racketeering.

What do these demands look like?

Well, in the past, they have been specifically, you know, that there's some piece of legislation that they want passed, some kind of equality legislation.

So the corporation has to start to lobby for that or else they're going to lose their score.

There are these ad campaigns campaigns like you see to put people like Dylan Mulvaney and push a new set of values into the American culture while tarnishing the old values, mocking the old values.

And this is the kind of thing that increases allegedly LGBTQ

visibility.

So this can increase your score.

Last year, there was, as I've heard from some closed-door channels, there was a racket push on the three major airlines to give Pride activists free airline tickets to fly around to Pride events because airline tickets are expensive.

And if they didn't give away millions of dollars in free flights to activists to fly to these Pride events all over the country through June and July, well, they might lose their 100.

And all three major, actually all four major airlines in the United States have a perfect CEI score.

So every single year, they come with new demands, new things you have to do this year in order to maintain your score.

And it's whatever their agenda items are for that particular year.

So if you had a company that like Bud Light, that had a great reputation not being about politics, it's not even about beer, it's about the stupid Clydesdales, you know, all the time.

They had a great reputation with the American people.

If they decided, we're not doing any of this, you know,

it's against our corporate culture, or we might agree with you on a lot, but we're not going to be taken hostage.

We make the decisions here.

What would happen to them?

Well,

a number of things would happen.

First, they would get a shot across their bowel.

Their score would be threatened, and it may go down.

At which point, all of the kind of ESG apparatus is going to start to rumble into action.

So the HRC doesn't have any direct power over Anheuser-Busch, but Larry Fink at BlackRock does.

So all of a sudden, they can say, well, you're not a best place to work anymore for LGBTQ, so let's go ahead and delist you perhaps from these index funds.

So Anheuser-Busch stock right now is bundled up into all of these pension funds that states like California are dumping billions of dollars into every year.

And that's a

huge reservoir of money that goes into your stock value.

Let's just take that away from you.

Let's just delist you.

And if that causes a spook in the market that causes people to sell your stock and run away from your stock, well, so be it.

And maybe we're going to have to replace some of your board members because your board members decided to take a stand against us.

And since they're going to have some huge portion of the stocks controlling that company they're going to be able to appoint and and and remove board members kind of at will

they may just also directly vote so there's a lot of kind of carrot stick yeah

incentives that they that they can press on this it's also been tied into corporate to what am i looking for executive compensation packages so these executives are also if they are doing what it takes to keep that score up they get bonuses if they mess that score up they lose their bonuses it's a very simple economic proposition at that point for them.

And so they aren't likely to take a stand because they're going to get the stick, as it were, if they try to take a stand against any of this.

So besides being an entrepreneurial kind of community and

a secondary economy,

what can you do about it?

Because, I mean,

it's so far down the road.

People don't understand.

You don't matter anymore.

You're seeing it in the government.

No matter what you say, it doesn't matter.

We're doing it.

I think we're going to go to war with Russia and or China, maybe even both of them.

And we're never going to have the debate about it.

It's just going to happen because the elites are deciding.

So how do we reverse this?

Well, it's a slow process, actually.

Everybody, when we think about how we're going to reverse this, because the stakes seem very high, we hope that we're going to just reverse it like overnight.

This isn't what's going to happen.

There's not going to be some miraculous moment where we say, oh, this is really bad.

We're going to not do this anymore.

What there is the opportunity to do is to slowly start exposing this, to show how it works, to reveal that this is a racketeering scheme.

So Anheuser-Busch, if you stop thinking of them as the enemy for putting Dylan Mulvaney on a can and you start thinking

of them as being an American company that's in a hostage situation,

you start thinking about it in a different way.

How do we start trying to reach out to how do our leaders that aren't completely on board with the regime's plans start to reach out to these entities and say, look, you do business in this state, you do a lot of business in this state, you do business in the United States.

How do we help you get out from underneath this?

In other words, when you're trying to turn over a cartel or a racket, you've got to start to get people who are caught up in the system, who want to get out of the system, to start telling stories about how it actually works.

And in the meantime, we have to just continue to expose and delegitimize the process as much as possible.

It's fine if we want to do these things like these boycotts, but I urge the American consumer to realize that it's not even just these cartel-running kind of scores and banks that are the problem.

With companies like Nike, which also has promoted Dylan Mulvaney, their largest market share right now is in China.

It's not even you anymore.

And so American conservatives can...

try to boycott these things, but they don't realize that, you know,

you're a very small percentage of the overall market.

So we've got to start thinking in terms of what do we need to do with these gigantic multinational corporate conglomerates, because they've become big enough and international enough where there is no accountability whatsoever to the American people.

And we've got to start rethinking how that happens.

But it starts by exposing it.

It really does.

James, thank you for everything that you do.

You're just, you're an amazing story.

You know, started at the University of Portland,

a guy that we would probably have never have talked back then, to somebody who has just been relentless on research and found the truth.

And now you're a machine.

I mean, you are really breaking things up.

And I appreciate it.

Thank you.

Well, thanks, Glenn.

Yeah, we're going to save this country.

Thank you.

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The San Francisco State University president, Lynn Mahoney, which rhymes with baloney,

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Turning Point USA hosted an event on campus that advocated for the exclusion of trans people in athletics.

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Please know how welcome you are here.

We're going to turn this moment into an opportunity to listen and learn how to support you better.

What incentive do you not have to take people hostage?

She was taken hostage.

Did you see that?

Oh, yeah.

She was taken hostage.

They were negotiating how much she had to pay with this president of the university.

They were negotiating with her

how much, Lynn, should she have to pay us to get safe passage to the airport.

Are you kidding me?

You talked to her yesterday.

Yeah.

She was on the show last night.

What was she saying she felt in this moment?

Terrifying.

She said it was terrifying.

She said she was assaulted.

The cops never showed up.

They showed up an hour late.

Cops there in the video.

I know, but the cops showed up an hour late.

They were supposed to meet her an hour before.

They didn't show up until the event.

They were supposed to go over security procedures with her.

They didn't show up.

And when they did show up, she said, I didn't feel protected by them.

And she said, I kind of feel bad for them because they're in a situation.

What are they going to do?

They're going to take on the trans mob and then they're going to be, you know, the bad guys.

She's transphobic on the internet the next day.

Although that is

what they should do anyway.

It is.

She said she was assaulted.

Now, the video I saw, she was, I would argue, kidnapped, imprisoned.

Yeah, she said she's assaulted.

She's trying to get, she was hit.

She's trying to get the body cam footage from inside the room.

Oh, okay.

Because it happened inside the room.

Oh, my God.

And she said

she's wondering if it hasn't already been.

Oh, we erase those every 10 minutes.

And she's not sure if the police are going to give it to her.

And she is pressing charges.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Good.

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You mentioned you had an argument with AI the other day about yourself.

I did.

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Right.

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did

Glenn Beck, the Glenn Beck audience, or his affiliated charity, M1,

save anyone from the

disaster in Afghanistan with the pullout.

Well-known story.

And ChatGPT argued with me, said no, and I said, Yeah, he did.

Check again.

And no, there's a few things online, but

you have to be very careful in things like this for misinformation.

And I said...

Didn't you send them an actual news story about it?

Yeah.

Still dismissed.

And then I'm like ABC News or something.

And then I said,

okay, well,

I'm Glenn Beck.

And it said,

assuming that you are, I would only have your word to take for it.

And I was like, wow.

I really did not want to say that.

Yeah, it did not want to to give anything now of course just knowing how much

how bothersome that would be to you I

you went

yeah I was hoping I could recreate it and then post it online but I did I did ask Bard which is Bard is Google's version of this which is horrible I'm not impressed with it so far overall

I will say I've asked at one point I asked what the current stock price of a stock was and it gave me one answer and then I googled it and it gave me the correct answer.

Like I literally couldn't

just like Google.

When you go to Google and you search, you know, just the three did, you know, three letter stock symbol, it would bring up the price.

When you'd ask chat G or Bard, it would wait 30 seconds and then say the current price is and then give you the wrong price.

What?

Like that's, that should,

I mean, that's like

whatever the first outcome of a Google search is should be the first place you'd think Bard would go.

Right.

Like, okay, it's right there.

Right.

But no.

However, I did ask Bard AI here about you.

Oh, it should be good.

Did Glenn Beck help people escape during the evacuation of Afghanistan?

Yes.

Glenn Beck helped people escape during the evacuation of Afghanistan.

He and his organization, the Nazarene Fund, raised over $35 million to help evacuate Afghan Christians and other vulnerable groups.

Beck was also personally involved in the evacuation efforts, flying to the Middle East to help coordinate the flights.

Beck's efforts were praised by some, but also criticized by others who accused him of using the situation to promote his own agenda.

I love this.

That is fair.

I mean, that's a fair

telling of what happened, though.

But what is my agenda?

E-Phil?

Yeah, okay.

I don't know.

I mean, I had dinner with somebody

the other day, and

it was just, it was a nightmare dinner.

And the guy says to me three different times.

Were they give salads or something?

What happened?

What?

No.

Oh, okay.

He says to me,

What is your agenda with this history collection thing that you do?

And I was like, I'm feeling the respect coming my way.

And I was like, what do you mean my agenda?

What are you trying to do with it?

What are you trying to tell people with it?

I'm like,

that it's our history and we should know it.

I mean, it's weird to have everything that you do.

What's your agenda?

When they should be asking that to so many other people.

Correct.

Right?

Like the treasury.

Yeah, yeah.

The Fed.

And when it comes to history, it's a great 1619 project pops to mind.

Yeah.

Like, what do they do with history?

They look for little bits and pieces of history that support their agenda and only tell you those parts.

Right.

But they don't even do that.

Do you have a Hulu series coming up anytime soon?

No, I don't.

No.

I don't think so.

We could produce one.

We have the largest collection of documents that prove everything about the 1619 project is wrong.

Right.

But no, we don't have a Hulu because that would hurt their CEI score.

By the way, a bard finishes this study, says, you know, gives you the bit about some people disagree.

Yeah.

And then it ends.

Disagree with.

Well, they say you were criticized, who accuse, some people accused you of using the situation to promote your own agenda.

Okay.

And it says, however, there is no doubt.

that Beck helped save the lives of many people who would have otherwise been left behind.

Wow.

And the first thing I think of is wrong again because because it's the audience.

No, that's true.

It was just like, hey, I've got a big hat.

Will you put some money in it?

That's all I did.

Okay, I'm going to pass this hat over to these people.

That's incredible, though.

It's good to see at least that exist.

I asked another service as well, and they gave another yes, Glenn Beck and his organization, the Nazarene Fund, raised millions of dollars and assisted the evacuation of thousands of people.

I should ask ChatGPT for again.

Yeah, maybe it's corrected itself.

Yeah, maybe.

It's an amazing thing watching people try to interact with this because there is that, the negative side of it is somewhat well documented, but how it's going to be used negatively is still to this level unknown.

I got a couple of stories on that.

First of all, some people are using it to write their marriage vows.

Don't, don't, don't, don't let your future spouse know that you didn't write those yourself.

You know, I just, I said, write some marriage vows, you know, in my voice.

And it came out, I i like her she's got most of her teeth don't don't don't have it that's a good line i will say she gave it having yeah but uh glenn it's not just that people are doing it microsoft literally came out with bing and said gave an example of how you should use their chat gpt

service and their exam i have the we have the video we played it on studios america Their actual example was when your daughter is graduating high school and you're throwing a graduation party and you need to have a speech about how inspirational she's been to you.

Go to chat GPT and let it write the speech for you.

That was literally their example of how you can use it.

It's incredible.

And they're like, well, and then you can edit it, you know, make sure you get the right events in there and stuff.

Dad, it was great, except you kept calling me Cindy.

I'm Sarah.

Yeah, I know, but the facts were pretty close.

Pretty close.

How about the chat bot, a chaos GPT?

This has its own Twitter feed, which I am very excited about.

The bot chat, sorry, Chaos GPT is a modified version of OpenAI's auto GPT, the open source.

Okay, so what...

The problem with this stuff is, is that it's out and you can get it to do anything.

Okay.

You can modify it and have it, you know, for instance, this is how do we create chaos?

And Chaos GPT was tasked with five goals.

Why you would do this with artificial life is beyond me.

Your five goals: destroy humanity, establish global dominance, cause chaos and destruction, control humanity through manipulation, and attain immortality.

Chaos GPT is to run in continuous mode, whereby it may potentially run forever and carry out actions you would usually not authorize.

The bot then, when it put in those goals,

Chaos GPT

said,

use

at your own risk.

Okay, well then, yeah, go ahead and do those things what

why would you do this it uh came up with some uh interesting uh things first of all uh in in its twitter uh feed uh it posted among uh human beings are among the most destructive and selfish creatures in existence uh i suggest eliminating them is vital to save the planet.

I mean, but that could be, I mean, that

could just be some global warming nut saying that.

He also tweeted, the masses are easily swayed.

Those who lack conviction are the most vulnerable to manipulation.

That stuck with me all day yesterday when I read that.

The masses are easily swayed.

Those who lack conviction are the most vulnerable to manipulation.

That's the problem with our country.

It's not that we have dummies.

We have no conviction on anything.

We haven't learned enough about anything to have real conviction.

And so we're all vulnerable.

If you want to stop misinformation, you should breed

conviction and asking questions and fostering a society that is always constantly asking why, why, why, why?

Because once you have that, then you can stand up and you have conviction.

So many people don't stand up not because they disagree or even are afraid,

they just don't know what to say

because they haven't lived their life.

A quote from

Matt Anthony Wayne, he said

to George Washington, we've taken the fort and

the garrison.

Colonel Johnstone is ours.

Your men acted like men who were determined to be free.

What

a great phrase.

How would you live your life?

Because you bet we are going to be determined to be free soon.

We're going to need that conviction or just roll over.

How would you live your life

if you were living your life as a man or a woman determined to be free?

We all answer that question and will change the country overnight.

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I have to play something that happened yesterday.

You know, you don't want to bring

a paper knife

to an atomic war.

You know what I mean?

You're going to win.

You're going to lose.

That's exactly what this BBC reporter did with Elon Musk.

He's standing there with a guy who's really wicked smart, very fat, a literal rocket scientist,

and he comes with a paper knife.

Listen to this interview.

Play the long version, please.

Content you don't like or hateful.

What do you mean to describe a hateful thing?

Yeah, I mean, you know, just content that will solicit a reaction, something that may include something that is slightly racist or slightly sexist,

those kinds of things.

So you think if something is slightly sexist, it should be banned?

No.

Is that what you're saying?

I'm not saying anything.

I'm just curious.

I'm trying to understand what you mean by hateful content.

And I'm asking for specific examples.

And you just said that if something is slightly sexist, that's hateful content.

Does that mean that it should be banned?

Well,

you've asked me whether my feed, whether it's got less or more.

I'd say it's got slightly more.

That's why I'm asking for examples.

Can you name one example?

I honestly don't use it.

Honestly, I don't know.

You can't name a single example.

I'll tell you why, because I don't actually use that for you feed anymore, because I just don't particularly like it.

You said

a lot of people are quite similar.

I only

hang on a second.

You said you've seen more hateful content, but you can't name a single example, not even one.

I'm not sure I've used that feed for the last three or four weeks.

Well, then how did you see the hateful content?

Because I've been using it, I've been using Twitter since you've taken it over for the last six months.

Okay, so then you must have at some point seen the U4U hateful content.

I'm asking for one example.

Right.

You can't give a single one.

And I'm saying, I've.

Then I say so that you don't know what you're talking about.

Really?

Yes, because you can't give me a single example of hateful content, not even one tweet, and yet you claimed that the hateful content was high.

Well, that's a false.

No, what I claimed was.

You just lied.

No, what I claim was there are many organisations that say that that kind of soggy paper is on the rise.

Now,

whether it has a mob feed or not,

I mean, right, and literally someone like the Strategic Dialogue Institute in the UK, they will say that.

Look, people will say all sorts of nonsense.

I'm literally asking for a single example, and you can't name one.

Right, and as I've already said, I don't use that feed.

But let's say that.

You literally said you experienced more hateful content and then couldn't name a single example.

Right, and as I said, That's absurd.

He goes on and he starts to take apart the BBC.

If you haven't seen it, now the BBC,

at first I thought, oh, to their credit, they ran this.

But no, again, you're dealing with a rocket scientist.

He ran it on Twitter live.

So he's showing it because the BBC is going to do it.

So he's like, okay, well, I'm going to show it on Twitter as well.

And the BBC had no place to go.

I guarantee you, if he hadn't recorded it or he hadn't put it on Twitter, BBC would have put that on a shelf and you would have never seen it.

Stop bringing a paper knife because your reporters begin to sweat and then it just gets soggy and it's hard to watch.

Congratulations, Elon Musk.

I love it.

Now on to the hunger gangs, and

may the odds always be in your favor.

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