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Speaker 53 Oh my gosh, what is that all about?

Speaker 4 Today, the indictment.

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Speaker 60 Wow, I am.

Speaker 69 The media is very, very upset.

Speaker 73 I'd like to play just a, just a couple of clips here where they're very sad today.

Speaker 74 Very, very sad. Here's cut one.

Speaker 75 You're right, this is a somber moment

Speaker 75 for America. It is a solemn time for America.

Speaker 76 It's really a surreal moment.

Speaker 77 It will be a solemn and somber moment.

Speaker 78 But I do think that

Speaker 78 it is a somber day that we're seeing a former president, you know, criminally charged, but it's a reminder that no one's above the law.

Speaker 81 No one or loathe Donald Trump. It's a sad day for America.

Speaker 83 Well, you know, it's obviously a somber moment, and it's a sad moment.

Speaker 84 Why would you counsel people

Speaker 84 that we're looking at a moment that we ought not be celebrating? Because it's a sad moment.

Speaker 85 Eric Swalwell issued a statement calling the indictment, quote, a somber day for

Speaker 10 America.

Speaker 88 Adam Schiff, who was one of the managers who led Trump's first impeachment trial, told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow last night that the indictment marks a sad and sobering day.

Speaker 84 You called Trump's indictment a solemn day for our nation.

Speaker 90 As of tonight, it's a sad moment, but the president of the United States, the former president, is not above the law.

Speaker 59 Not above the law.

Speaker 59 Not above the law.

Speaker 92 No one is, Glenn.

Speaker 93 This proves it. Yes.

Speaker 94 No one is above the law.

Speaker 11 And I will say this day where we're getting this thing that we've begged and pleaded for for the past seven years is a sad sad sad. And you should believe us.
Right.

Speaker 11 You should believe us when we tell you that. The thing we've told you is the most important thing that could ever happen.

Speaker 11 And the thing we've been begging and pleading for on the air for seven years, that's the thing that's sad and sobering.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 96 we're sad.

Speaker 7 Now, we do have party favors

Speaker 98 in the lunchroom,

Speaker 15 but here on the broadcast floor, somber, sad.

Speaker 14 Sad.

Speaker 99 And no one is above the law.

Speaker 67 Well, well, Michael Isakoff seems to be a little above the law.

Speaker 96 He has an exclusive that Trump is to be charged with 34 counts of felony.

Speaker 97 Now,

Speaker 35 leaking that information is a felony, but it's

Speaker 100 no one is again, nobody is above the law.

Speaker 11 I mean Biesakoff, though, that would be in trouble, right? It would be the person who leaked it to Biesakov.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 24 Well, I mean, I think there's a special place in hell for Michael Isaakoff, if you remember.

Speaker 4 I mean, I think it was ironic today that it is coming from Isakoff.

Speaker 53 Do you remember in 2016 when paul manafort uh joined the trump campaign politico reported that uh one of our uh embassy people chalupa do you remember chalupa yeah i often believe me i think about chalupas all the time no not that chalupa no that this is a different delicious chalupa no anyway um okay so chalupa was working with the embassy staff in Ukraine to raise alarm bells on Paul Manafort to the Ukrainian president.

Speaker 2 She said, quote, the embassy worked directly with reporters researching Trump, Manafort, and Russia to point them in the right direction.

Speaker 96 The embassy

Speaker 31 was pointing reporters in the right direction.

Speaker 15 Great.

Speaker 97 Now,

Speaker 110 one of the hacked DNC emails that came out, released on WikiLeaks,

Speaker 24 was between Chalupa and the former DNC communications director.

Speaker 25 In that email, Chalupa checks in reporting she's going to speak to the Library of Congress specifically about Manafort.

Speaker 96 She also says that she has invited journalist Michael Issakoff and that she had been working with him over the past few weeks.

Speaker 7 Now, that's weird because Isakoff was the guy who wrote the article for Yahoo News News that detailed some of the things in the Steele dossier.

Speaker 4 In fact, Christopher Steele leaked the dossier directly to Issakoff.

Speaker 127 And then it was Isakoff's story

Speaker 111 that was used as corroborating evidence to justify a FISA warrant on Carter Page.

Speaker 126 So Isakoff played kind of a crucial role in the last crime.

Speaker 53 And you're saying he's well sourced.

Speaker 14 He's well sourced on this somber day.

Speaker 88 On this somber,

Speaker 10 sad,

Speaker 10 sad, sobering day.

Speaker 98 It is exactly what I'm talking about, Stu.

Speaker 131 Now, no one is above the law, right?

Speaker 107 But there seems to be a problem with the federal government,

Speaker 129 you know, enforcing some of these laws.

Speaker 28 Now,

Speaker 56 I just tweeted out

Speaker 35 the business-related crimes and the sex and drug crimes.

Speaker 97 Now,

Speaker 132 so far on his laptop, on Hunter Biden's laptop, only 60 felonies have been found.

Speaker 25 Just the 60.

Speaker 57 But just the 60.

Speaker 96 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 21 And these aren't things that you have to, you know, really go snoop around for.

Speaker 25 They're many of them on videotape.

Speaker 19 Okay.

Speaker 25 On videotape.

Speaker 38 Now, I thought to myself, you know, the FBI is so bogged down on January 6th and other things like that.

Speaker 96 There's got to be a few local DAs

Speaker 107 that would like to make a name for themselves.

Speaker 131 and indict

Speaker 53 the president's son and maybe the whole family on some of these crimes.

Speaker 24 Now, it's weird.

Speaker 35 A lot of these crimes happen in the District of Columbia. They also happen in Delaware.

Speaker 130 But there's a couple in Arkansas.

Speaker 35 There is one in Florida.

Speaker 25 There's got to be somebody,

Speaker 53 one in Oklahoma, I believe.

Speaker 101 There's got to be somebody

Speaker 104 in a district where these crimes were committed

Speaker 135 that you just want to see justice served

Speaker 98 on this somber

Speaker 115 somber day

Speaker 11 sobering glenn sobering what you just said it was it was somber it was sobering it was sad sad sad somber sobering

Speaker 24 It's it is it's what today's all really all about.

Speaker 11 It is now you aren't saying that people should go after Hunter Biden as revenge are you

Speaker 10 of course not i'm saying no one is above the law no one no no one is above the law no and if a former president isn't above the law certainly just some random citizen who

Speaker 11 happens to be related yeah to a president but also it happens to be you know

Speaker 11 Escort Service's number one national client.

Speaker 11 But he certainly isn't above the law, right?

Speaker 40 No.

Speaker 11 Because I get, I come back to this often when I think about the Hunter Biden thing. I feel like if I did any of the things on this list, I would definitely go to jail.

Speaker 19 Excuse me,

Speaker 28 if on my laptop,

Speaker 91 I had saved me with a Russian hooker, not in America, one that actually works for Russia, a Russian hooker,

Speaker 141 and I was weighing crack on my crack cocaine scale.

Speaker 121 Do you think I'd be broadcasting today?

Speaker 143 I'm going to go with a big fat no.

Speaker 65 I would say

Speaker 65 that would be a no. Yes.
Yeah. You would be

Speaker 99 think I would be just out of a job or do you think I might be in jail?

Speaker 11 I think you might be in jail.

Speaker 61 I think I might be in jail.

Speaker 145 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 28 Would I belong in jail?

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 126 If I had done that crime, yeah.

Speaker 13 That's how the law works.

Speaker 11 Again, I feel like I'm talking about a foreign country that I don't understand the customs. But like my understanding of how this works is: if you do something illegal, typically you go to jail.

Speaker 11 Yeah, if you're caught on video doing it, you definitely go to jail, right?

Speaker 33 That's that was my understanding.

Speaker 130 Unless you're burning a city down,

Speaker 11 yeah, but see, I didn't think that was the way this worked.

Speaker 11 I thought, I honestly thought that if you were to light a building on fire, let's say a police precinct, if you were to take it over, yeah, and light it on fire, see what's happening here.

Speaker 11 I thought that would make you go to jail for like a really long time.

Speaker 106 I am sorry.

Speaker 135 I am sorry. I just have to introduce myself.

Speaker 5 I'm Glenn. Oh, okay.

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Speaker 99 You look a lot like Stew, but I think you're a Stew from another universe.

Speaker 40 Oh, did I cross it?

Speaker 132 So you'll pop in from time to time, and they'll be like, what's this country all about?

Speaker 10 What the hell is this crap he made?

Speaker 28 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 115 You're talking about my country, man.

Speaker 10 Yeah, no, I know.

Speaker 109 I know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 11 My country in the other dimension is like sane.

Speaker 27 Is this this insane?

Speaker 111 Is it? I suppose.

Speaker 135 I suppose you, you, all your children don't go to the hospital within the first eight months just to switch up their organs.

Speaker 11 Oh, they just look like if they're born a boy, they just remain a boy.

Speaker 28 Oh my gosh, what a hate-mongering universe you're in.

Speaker 11 It's a weird one. Now that I'm thinking about it, you know, all I can think about as I come to these realizations is that it's sad.
It's sobering.

Speaker 148 It is.

Speaker 17 It is

Speaker 17 somber.

Speaker 33 It's somber.

Speaker 32 It's all three of things.

Speaker 11 Wow. And we mean that, by the way.
We don't, we're not, you know, we don't, when we go to commercial break, we're not celebrating and doing shots of fireball in between the breaks.

Speaker 40 No, no.

Speaker 11 We are sad and sort of sober about this situation.

Speaker 148 Now,

Speaker 57 when they said sobering, that this news is sobering, is that because they're drunk?

Speaker 53 Right.

Speaker 144 Yes.

Speaker 144 Okay.

Speaker 33 All right.

Speaker 10 It's like a hot hot cup of coffee

Speaker 11 and a cold shower. It's sobering.

Speaker 38 It's sobering.

Speaker 11 We're currently drunk after our big party last night celebrating this event. And now

Speaker 11 it's sobering being on the air and not looking at it.

Speaker 4 We're looking at this and we're saying, what a tragedy.

Speaker 142 We've been working towards it.

Speaker 59 We've lied to you over and over to try to make it happen.

Speaker 10 Right.

Speaker 69 In any way, shape, or form.

Speaker 108 I mean, we...

Speaker 11 We dedicated our lives

Speaker 124 to make this happen. We went the extra step of making Russian stuff up with Michael Issakov.

Speaker 11 We're fine with it.

Speaker 4 Okay. And we're totally fine with it.

Speaker 69 We wanted to sell our country down the river.

Speaker 47 Fact, we've been telling you that

Speaker 124 these protests are mostly peaceful and they're burning cities to the ground.

Speaker 59 We don't care.

Speaker 28 We're cool. We're happy.

Speaker 80 We're cool.

Speaker 25 We're like, hey, that's justice, right?

Speaker 29 But today. Today.

Speaker 40 Today is sobering.

Speaker 11 So sobering. So sad.

Speaker 11 So somber.

Speaker 103 So sombering.

Speaker 11 So saddening.

Speaker 11 And so sombre.

Speaker 101 What we're going to try to struggle through today, Trump is going to be charged today.

Speaker 94 They're saying no handcuffs, no handcuffs.

Speaker 21 You know, the mug shot probably,

Speaker 131 but I want to race people.

Speaker 72 As soon as that mugshot comes out,

Speaker 37 we're going to race.

Speaker 17 They can come out with the t-shirt fast enough.

Speaker 151 I think we can.

Speaker 5 Glenn.

Speaker 12 I think we can. Glenn.

Speaker 11 In New York State, they don't release these, so we'll probably never see it.

Speaker 24 There's no chance someone would leak it.

Speaker 11 That couldn't happen.

Speaker 13 Well, it would be.

Speaker 86 They don't release them officially.

Speaker 2 It'd be sobering if it did.

Speaker 11 Somber.

Speaker 21 It would be something that I would look at and go, how did they?

Speaker 148 I would say sad.

Speaker 103 Would you say sad?

Speaker 33 I would say sad. I would.
It's sad.

Speaker 10 It's a sad, somber day.

Speaker 19 It's a public.

Speaker 88 It's a sad, sombering, saddening,

Speaker 11 sad, somber day.

Speaker 60 And we're both sober.

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Speaker 19 Wow.

Speaker 70 Sad.

Speaker 11 Do they actually believe we're going to think they think this is a sad moment in our history? They don't at all. They are happy about it.
They're excited about it.

Speaker 11 They pushed for it for years and years and years and years. It has been their top priority, their fascination, their obsession.

Speaker 11 for longer than any of us can remember, putting this one person behind bars in some way. This is not sobering.
It's not sad. It's them thinking they're getting some big victory.

Speaker 11 I don't know if it's going to work out that way, but that's what they certainly believe today.

Speaker 69 Well, I mean, you know, you've built a case

Speaker 94 around

Speaker 129 your chief witness, Michael Cohen, who is

Speaker 110 a felon and convicted liar

Speaker 132 who also has a lot of hatred for Donald Trump.

Speaker 11 Yeah, you know, and he's also the big new left-wing media star.

Speaker 103 Isn't that interesting? It's fascinating because, you know,

Speaker 11 when Michael Cohen was working for Donald Trump,

Speaker 11 I believed he probably committed approximately three crimes per day.

Speaker 11 He was never at any point trustworthy. Even when he worked for Donald Trump, he was his fixer.
He was the guy who said and did anything.

Speaker 35 But he's away from all that now.

Speaker 11 And now

Speaker 11 he's now just changed allegiance and now is saying, oh, well, now Trump is the worst guy. You should believe me now.
And you know what? I haven't changed.

Speaker 11 I haven't changed my analysis on Michael Cohen, but the media has all just flip-flopped.

Speaker 144 Now he's trustworthy.

Speaker 11 Now he's honorable. Now,

Speaker 11 this is what they do every single time.

Speaker 11 It's pathetic. And you know what, Glenn? It's somber.
And sad. And sombering and sobering and sober and sad.

Speaker 53 So in American Greatness, there is a list of 20 things that Donald Trump did not do that I think are, you know, I think are pretty good.

Speaker 24 For instance, Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by destroying federally subpoenaed emails and devices in order to hide evidence.

Speaker 35 He also didn't violate any federal laws by sending classified government communications

Speaker 153 on his own through an unsecured homebrewed server like Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 6 Trump didn't violate federal law by hiring

Speaker 2 through three paywalls a foreign national who was prohibited from working on presidential campaigns to compile a dossier to smear a presidential opponent.

Speaker 38 He didn't do that.

Speaker 5 He didn't do that. Hillary did.

Speaker 92 He didn't do that.

Speaker 73 Trump didn't violate federal campaign laws by hiding her payments as legal services to Christopher Steele through bookkeeping deceptions.

Speaker 21 He didn't do that.

Speaker 129 Trump did not, as Bill Bill Clinton did, use

Speaker 46 a crony to search out high-paying New York jobs for

Speaker 132 maybe

Speaker 110 testimony

Speaker 21 before a special counsel.

Speaker 101 Trump didn't, as Bill Clinton did, receive $500,000 honorarium for speaking in Moscow while his wife approved the long-standing and lucrative

Speaker 38 deal with the Kremlin for North American uranium.

Speaker 94 He didn't do that.

Speaker 110 He also did not, as Barack Obama did, promise Vladimir Putin that he would be flexible on missile defense if during his own re-election Putin would in return give him some space.

Speaker 92 That's something he didn't do.

Speaker 108 Trump did not boast publicly, as Joe Biden did, that he had issued U.S.

Speaker 120 foreign aid monies as leverage to have the Ukrainian government fire a prosecutor who may have been looking into his son and the Biden family crimes there in Ukraine.

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Speaker 98 Another thing Trump didn't do is enrich all of his family members

Speaker 136 through China and Ukraine and Russia, which is

Speaker 30 which is weird, which is weird.

Speaker 96 But I'm only halfway through the crimes that he didn't commit, that the Democrats did.

Speaker 57 But hey, hey, listen, no one's above the law.

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Speaker 12 So sombering?

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Speaker 134 Well, today is a day.

Speaker 49 It's a sad and sobering and sombering kind of day.

Speaker 98 According to the media, they're very sad, sober, and it's a somber day for them as we see a President of the United States be indicted on

Speaker 154 local charges, but a felony, which is weird.

Speaker 49 But former President Donald Trump is expected to be arraigned today on about 30 charges, according to the mainstream media.

Speaker 132 We have no idea what these charges are. We have no idea how many.

Speaker 132 We have no idea.

Speaker 154 The indictment remains sealed.

Speaker 21 So there's no way you could officially know any of the charges.

Speaker 11 Yeah, in theory, even Donald Donald Trump does not currently know what the charges are. Correct.

Speaker 11 Until he goes to that room where he will hear them for the first time, that's when he learns about them.

Speaker 11 And so it's important to note that everything we know, we quote unquote know about these charges, we know from mainstream media reporting right now. So really, this could go any number of directions.

Speaker 11 Now, they've been leaking to mainstream media like crazy. So you can believe that some of it probably is accurate.
All of those leaks would be felonies. but

Speaker 11 I'm sure Bragg will be right on top of prosecuting that. He's going to be very concerned about those leaks.

Speaker 14 We have Arfur Bigglesworth there at the

Speaker 28 do we not?

Speaker 3 Do we have our is Arfur ready

Speaker 40 at all?

Speaker 40 Sure.

Speaker 9 Is Arfur, are you there?

Speaker 19 Hello.

Speaker 160 Hi, Arfur.

Speaker 130 Bragg, can you hear me?

Speaker 128 Yes, I can.

Speaker 161 I'm currently hovering above Trump Tower.

Speaker 67 You're above Trump Tower now.

Speaker 32 Yes.

Speaker 161 With a telescope.

Speaker 9 Right.

Speaker 79 And I'm trying to see if Donald Trump.

Speaker 79 It's Cogle on the cropper.

Speaker 38 That's not what we have.

Speaker 161 We can get this information to you

Speaker 161 to see if he's doing a number one order.

Speaker 38 Okay, all right. We're not.

Speaker 117 Arthur, we'll call you.

Speaker 108 We'll call you when you have.

Speaker 33 When you have something. Yes.

Speaker 119 He's tickling.

Speaker 33 He's tickling. Okay.

Speaker 32 Thank you. He is

Speaker 159 Thank you.

Speaker 32 All right. Thank you.

Speaker 33 Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 33 Thank you.

Speaker 79 That would be

Speaker 152 Arfer Bigglesworth, who is up in the

Speaker 15 Mercury Chopper, apparently, today.

Speaker 111 So we have

Speaker 94 Donald Trump going in.

Speaker 145 He will

Speaker 136 go in and surrender himself today

Speaker 98 at some point early this morning.

Speaker 5 And then I think it's at 1 o'clock he's arraigned, 1 or 2 o'clock Eastern Time.

Speaker 91 Now, they are having

Speaker 135 a protest.

Speaker 98 Marjorie Taylor Greene is hosting a protest with Trump supporters at 10.30, which just doesn't seem like a good idea to me.

Speaker 152 Just doesn't,

Speaker 41 you know, maybe it's just me, but uh,

Speaker 11 not a good idea. It does seem like the type of thing that could go awry.
Perhaps people being baited into stuff and perhaps counter-protests that

Speaker 11 you're mostly peaceful counter-protesters may show at this particular event and not really be mostly peaceful.

Speaker 112 What? Yeah.

Speaker 28 Well, I'm just

Speaker 5 saying.

Speaker 135 I'm just saying.

Speaker 136 So we have the indictment coming out, and I'm all a tingle.

Speaker 120 Now,

Speaker 21 this is kind of a big thing because, again, we're learning today that no one is above the law,

Speaker 72 especially with D.A.

Speaker 132 Bragg.

Speaker 47 He is, he's quite an amazing.

Speaker 28 I mean, yes, okay, in Manhattan, I mean,

Speaker 108 you know,

Speaker 154 felony assault, you know, is probably a little

Speaker 64 above the law or major crime.

Speaker 3 That's up 22% in New York.

Speaker 74 You know, last year, there was a convicted sex offender who put a man in a coma and walked free.

Speaker 22 That guy, that guy,

Speaker 36 above the law.

Speaker 110 So, but it is.

Speaker 11 I mean, his defining characteristic is letting people off for crimes they committed. That is legitimately the only thing that Alvin Bragg is known for.

Speaker 145 But doesn't it make sense that you let people off for crimes they committed and you prosecute people for crimes they didn't commit.

Speaker 11 No, it does not make sense.

Speaker 117 Why? It's sad.

Speaker 57 And we don't know if, I mean, we have no idea what these 30 felony charges are.

Speaker 80 30.

Speaker 13 I mean, 34, right? That's what was reported to us.

Speaker 114 I mean, that's crazy.

Speaker 14 I guess. What are they?

Speaker 11 Every single time it's written down in a piece of paper is a separate count type of thing? Is that basically what we're doing here? We're going to find out some of this later today.

Speaker 11 It's just, and right now they're just focused on so many other stupid, sad, sober things.

Speaker 91 Now,

Speaker 110 CNN had Wolf Blitzer on yesterday and still

Speaker 152 the hairiest guy on television.

Speaker 131 And, you know, who doesn't want to see that?

Speaker 64 America is flocking to the Wolf Blitzer extravaganza every day.

Speaker 47 But he was on yesterday and he said, we're getting.

Speaker 96 I don't know why he always shouts.

Speaker 143 We're getting new CNN polling revealing how the American public is reacting to the former president's indictment.

Speaker 40 Okay.

Speaker 61 If I asked you now,

Speaker 130 how are you reacting to the indictment?

Speaker 60 What would you...

Speaker 109 Well, I haven't seen it yet, so it would be hard to react to that indictment.

Speaker 47 I'm kind of pissed because I

Speaker 11 think it's probably BS, but until I see it, I can't be sure.

Speaker 38 Okay, good, good, good.

Speaker 143 We went into the field, did you wolf? We went into the field and we did this new exclusive CNN poll.

Speaker 57 What a stupid sentence that is.

Speaker 111 Conducted by SSRS just after the indictment last Thursday.

Speaker 57 Okay, so they did this poll last Thursday.

Speaker 11 We had no information.

Speaker 25 No information.

Speaker 6 64% of Americans approve of the indictment of Donald Trump.

Speaker 111 40% disapprove.

Speaker 103 Wait, what were those numbers again?

Speaker 3 60%. 60, 40?

Speaker 109 40.

Speaker 111 Yeah, okay. So, wait a minute.

Speaker 28 Hang on.

Speaker 65 I've just

Speaker 100 60% approve of

Speaker 40 what?

Speaker 119 We don't know.

Speaker 5 What?

Speaker 94 Indicting him. Get him.

Speaker 13 I mean, really?

Speaker 86 That's really what it is.

Speaker 138 I mean, I guess we're no better because we're like,

Speaker 15 this is hogwash.

Speaker 98 We don't know until today.

Speaker 40 We don't know. We don't know for sure, right?

Speaker 57 My guess is just from the

Speaker 2 long and storied and sobering kind of

Speaker 72 saga that we've gone through with Donald Trump, they always are like, this is it, Glenn,

Speaker 6 this is it. This time we're really going to get him.

Speaker 145 And then you find out, no, not so much.

Speaker 53 No, uh-uh.

Speaker 157 So, I mean, judging from past performance, I'd say this one, nope, uh-uh, not going to do it.

Speaker 47 But maybe that's just me.

Speaker 2 94% of Democrats approve of the indictment.

Speaker 27 94%

Speaker 115 of Democrats. You know what that is?

Speaker 93 That's

Speaker 127 Saddam Hussein voting numbers.

Speaker 33 That's what that is.

Speaker 118 94%.

Speaker 100 Remember, we used to say, there's no way that's real.

Speaker 28 Right.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it is.

Speaker 38 Yeah, apparently it is.

Speaker 130 94%.

Speaker 69 Democrats, 94% approve of the indictment that has yet to be released.

Speaker 2 62% of Independents and 21% of Republicans.

Speaker 115 Now, I just want to show you, 21% of Republicans approve

Speaker 47 and 6%

Speaker 115 of Democrats.

Speaker 18 Wait.

Speaker 138 No, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 94% of Democrats.

Speaker 11 So 21% of Republicans approve of the indictment. Yeah.
That's a higher number than I would have expected.

Speaker 13 Right? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 112 A lot higher.

Speaker 40 A lot higher.

Speaker 80 Which means we're not all in lockstep, perhaps.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 11 I mean, you should judge this on the merits. Yes.
You know,

Speaker 11 and we can't judge it on the merits until we know what it is. But what we know so far, which I would remind you is from mainstream media reporting.

Speaker 11 So I don't know that it's necessarily reliable, but what we know so far seems to be very, very thin. Right.

Speaker 11 I mean, the idea that we've had multiple other people look at these same charges, all of them also hated Donald Trump, and none of them brought charges on this.

Speaker 143 Well, so we went out in the field and we did this new exclusive CNN poll, and

Speaker 142 we further asked respondents whether they believe Donald Trump's payment to Stormy Daniels was illegal, unethical, not illegal, not wrong at all, or not sure.

Speaker 32 Wow. So,

Speaker 138 so wait, we're asking the American people, what was it again?

Speaker 163 If it was legal, the Trump payment.

Speaker 128 Now, it should be noted that, generally speaking, it's not illegal to pay somebody to keep an affair quiet.

Speaker 132 It's not illegal.

Speaker 64 Otherwise, Bill Clinton would have been rotten in prison for a very long time.

Speaker 114 But this case,

Speaker 107 37% of the American people said the payment was illegal.

Speaker 6 I'd like to, Wolf, I'd like to have a follow-up question.

Speaker 11 What part of it was illegal?

Speaker 58 What made that illegal?

Speaker 71 Because

Speaker 24 I would guess maybe 99%

Speaker 129 would say,

Speaker 106 I'm not sure.

Speaker 106 I'm not sure.

Speaker 21 They have no idea what they're even talking about.

Speaker 48 So

Speaker 2 52%

Speaker 113 of independents, 52%

Speaker 157 say,

Speaker 107 yeah,

Speaker 107 this is political.

Speaker 32 Political.

Speaker 99 76%

Speaker 3 of all Americans say, yeah, this was just a political driven event.

Speaker 121 Only 14% say no.

Speaker 40 We have Arfur on again.

Speaker 66 Arfur Bigglesworth, apparently, he is in the helicopter now.

Speaker 41 Yes.

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Speaker 161 And I was asked asked to stop hovering outside of the window of Trump Tower.

Speaker 159 Oh, I turned my helicopter out there for a second.

Speaker 79 I've been doing lots of research all day, and all the implications to our country on this side is over, it's happening.

Speaker 4 Okay,

Speaker 4 what have you found?

Speaker 161 Well, one thing I've done is I've been looking for clues

Speaker 161 on what exactly went down.

Speaker 79 How did all of this happen?

Speaker 79 And

Speaker 79 in that process, I've watched 37 Stormy Daniels movies.

Speaker 161 Including Finally Legal Seven.

Speaker 10 What was that one?

Speaker 161 Finally Legal Seven.

Speaker 58 Finally Legal Seven.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 161 Uh-huh.

Speaker 159 Dual airbags.

Speaker 33 That's a

Speaker 10 that's a is that an actual movie that Stormy Daniels is in?

Speaker 19 Dual airbags, dual airbags, okay,

Speaker 19 blonde edition.

Speaker 10 Arthur, we'll

Speaker 125 check in with you again on this sad and somber day.

Speaker 5 Somber day.

Speaker 19 Those aren't real, are they?

Speaker 10 Totally real. Mad Cow Blonde Edition.

Speaker 19 Who the hell would agree to be in that movie?

Speaker 11 I mean, dual airbags, maybe you could just say. All right, that might, I get what we're going.

Speaker 33 Mad cow,

Speaker 26 it's a disease, and they're calling you fat.

Speaker 26 Why would you say yes to that?

Speaker 33 What was the first one?

Speaker 103 Uh, the first one was what was it?

Speaker 119 Uh,

Speaker 33 oh, uh, finally legal seven, which I get, she's been legal for a long time. What sort of restrictive society when you have a 42-year-old making consensus?

Speaker 12 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 103 I wonder if there were any clues in those movies, though.

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Speaker 160 So, Stormy Daniels, it is

Speaker 103 the research continues, boys. Yes.

Speaker 115 I mean, we have to know.

Speaker 57 So was she just a porn star or

Speaker 99 because, I mean, she was in the world famous Space Nuts.

Speaker 103 Oh, that was her. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 11 I thought it was a nice one.

Speaker 103 I recognized her from Space Nuts.

Speaker 100 Which is a kind of

Speaker 7 less highbrow

Speaker 98 Mel Brooks.

Speaker 105 movie.

Speaker 10 Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 80 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Yes. She had actually a bit of a crossover career before she was known for the Trump stuff.
She was in

Speaker 11 a couple of the Judd Apatau

Speaker 30 40-year-olds.

Speaker 13 40-year-old virgin

Speaker 5 locked up.

Speaker 11 So she had a little bit of a, you know, this is something that was attempted routinely by quote-unquote porn stars that tried to cross over, and they would generally play

Speaker 11 women without clothes on in regular movies.

Speaker 33 It was a real stretch.

Speaker 165 Real stretch.

Speaker 63 Well, it's like Shakespeare in comparison to what you were doing yeah so all right more in just a second um we are going to talk to a man who knows uh the uh southern district of new york knows the uh district attorney and knows the law we have him coming up next to tell us the glenn back program about the indictment

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Speaker 145 All right, the indictment is coming down today.

Speaker 41 Donald Trump is turning himself in, going to be arraigned this afternoon.

Speaker 63 We should know more on what Michael Issakoff is leaking as 34

Speaker 66 charges, apparently 34 felonies

Speaker 156 today going to be charged against Donald Trump.

Speaker 108 We will find out all about it, but I want to do

Speaker 72 some speculation because that's as best as you can get right now.

Speaker 69 What does this look like?

Speaker 21 Are they going to be able to gag order the president?

Speaker 129 Is that even right?

Speaker 117 How does all of this work?

Speaker 156 The guy who really knows is a dear friend and just a guy who has been by our side for a long time explaining things, Andrew McCarthy.

Speaker 15 He is the National Review Contributing Editor and Institute Senior Fellow.

Speaker 24 He is also the former Chief Assistant U.S.

Speaker 156 Attorney.

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Speaker 109 We will ask him, what's going on in 60 seconds?

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Speaker 133 Andy McCarthy is here with us.

Speaker 160 Hi, Andrew.

Speaker 50 How are you, sir?

Speaker 89 Glenn, I'm doing great. How are you?

Speaker 93 Good.

Speaker 121 I mean, if you listen to the press,

Speaker 155 it's a somber and sad and sobering day.

Speaker 135 And it is all of those things.

Speaker 29 I just don't believe they believe that.

Speaker 128 Can you give us some idea of what today is going to look like?

Speaker 89 Well, it's going to look like the beginning of a process that

Speaker 89 I think is being

Speaker 89 misdescribed in the press because we're kind of a step behind.

Speaker 89 What they're explaining to you, and the reason this is supposed to be a sad and somber day in

Speaker 89 the theater before us, is that this is the beginning of the criminal justice process where someone is brought in and arraigned on a set of formal allegations known as an indictment, and that begins the formal process of a criminal case.

Speaker 89 But I think, Glenn,

Speaker 89 just as Alvin Bragg

Speaker 89 would be better understood

Speaker 89 by the public as an elected progressive Democrat than as a law enforcement official, you know, back in the, back probably a decade ago, it was still the case, even in Manhattan, that if you were to campaign as someone whose agenda was to put the

Speaker 89 law enforcement power of the office in the service of a partisan agenda to go after one particular nemesis of the party, that would have been disqualifying. Now it's what's expected in Manhattan.

Speaker 89 And this process is not really in the end. It's not about whether they can take a trifling case, and it really is trifling.
It's a case Bragg would never bring against anyone else.

Speaker 89 But it's not whether they can bring a trifling set of allegations and prove them and Donald Trump is found guilty or not guilty. This is about making the process the penalty.
This is about

Speaker 89 making this as

Speaker 89 financially prohibitive, emotionally wrenching, and personally humiliating as

Speaker 89 they can for Trump. And it's kind of the criminal justice system version of the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing.
It's to create an interrorum effect

Speaker 89 which conveys to conservatives and Trump supporters and anyone else who opposes this Bolshevik left that this is what we've got for you

Speaker 89 if you dare to oppose us. And that's what this is really about.

Speaker 89 It's not so much a criminal justice process, which is, you know, we can go through the nuts and bolts of that, but we should acknowledge, I think, what's really happening here.

Speaker 128 So can you,

Speaker 157 because now, I mean, you can indict a ham sandwich is the old saying,

Speaker 73 but it's got to go to a jury and got to go through trial now.

Speaker 110 Do you think you can get a fair trial in Manhattan for Donald Trump?

Speaker 110 I think

Speaker 89 if the court were fair,

Speaker 89 The answer to that would be yes. I mean, I tried terrorists in the 1990s in that same little

Speaker 89 square mile area of Manhattan, only eight blocks away from where they had bombed the World Trade Center. And, you know, terrorists

Speaker 89 were very unpopular, obviously, with New York juries. But no one who looked at that case didn't think that we got a fair jury for it.

Speaker 89 But if the process is rigged, you know, we got a fair jury because the process wasn't rigged.

Speaker 89 We had a fair judge. We had a due process of law.

Speaker 89 The question is, is the court going to be as rigged against Trump as the DA is? If that's the case, then, you know, it's already over.

Speaker 96 How is this possible?

Speaker 110 How did this?

Speaker 114 I mean,

Speaker 110 it's stunning, I think, to most Americans to see what's happening in Washington, D.C. with our court system, what's happening in New York with our court system.

Speaker 21 It's one thing for the DA.

Speaker 98 It's another.

Speaker 55 to have the court system so far gone on politics.

Speaker 89 Well, it's really a reflection, Glenn, of what's happened in the culture. And the reason I can say that with confidence is

Speaker 89 in the federal system,

Speaker 89 judges and district attorneys who are U.S. attorneys in the federal system, they're not elected officials.
They're appointed by the president.

Speaker 89 In theory, the credentials for those kinds of positions are that you will uphold the rule of law without fear or favor. You won't use your power as a partisan weapon.

Speaker 89 And we have them vetted by the Senate, at least in theory, to make sure that they're the kind of people who won't do that. That's not what we have in the state system.

Speaker 89 These positions are elected positions. And at a certain point, the

Speaker 89 well springs of funding on the progressive left, George Soros' name is mentioned all the time, but he's hardly the only figure who's of importance here.

Speaker 89 But they realize that, you know, in these one-party blue cities,

Speaker 89 DA's positions, there virtually was not a campaign at all for them. They were decided by the party bosses, like who would fill the slot.
They're not competitive races.

Speaker 89 They were five-figure campaigns at best and probably in the low five-figures.

Speaker 89 So these guys realized they could come in with, you know, six, seven figures of funding, blow away the competition, install their own progressive prosecutors into these lots, and that's real power.

Speaker 89 It's one thing to take over the courts or to take over a legislature. They're kind of slow-moving institutions.
But if you're a prosecutor, you have real instant power.

Speaker 89 You can decide who gets charged, who doesn't get charged. It doesn't matter how aggressive the police are.
It's up to the prosecutor what happens to these cases.

Speaker 89 So if you get a progressive ideologue in that kind of a position with no effective political check on him, that's real power. And that's what's happened in

Speaker 89 these municipalities.

Speaker 120 So tell me about what you know about the case.

Speaker 92 I mean, we have heard that this is about Stormy Daniels, but that is something that the FEC passed on,

Speaker 55 the

Speaker 121 federal system passed on, the statue of limitations is over, and it's a misdemeanor, and he has made it into a felony charge, and there are 34 felonies.

Speaker 144 That's what we've heard.

Speaker 46 What do you think you know?

Speaker 89 Well, I think he's taking two transactions, which are these hush money arrangements with two women who claim to have had affairs with Trump

Speaker 89 around 2006

Speaker 89 and who were

Speaker 89 paid off in different ways in the waning weeks of the 2016 election when their extortionate leverage was highest to try to get paid off to remain silent about their past interaction with Trump.

Speaker 89 So this is all seven years old. That's when these nondisclosure arrangements were done.

Speaker 89 And I think the way they're getting 34 counts out of it, Glenn, is the kind of abuse of prosecutorial authority that they warn against in the Justice Department manual, where they tell you not to not to stack up counts where it's not necessary.

Speaker 89 A lot of times, rogue prosecutors will try to camouflage with quantity the lack of quality of the evidence of their case. And it's easy to do this.
You know, if you and I were in a stolen,

Speaker 89 let's say we're in a stolen property conspiracy, we're going to try to transfer and steal stolen property. I hand it to you to say, Glenn, what do you think this is worth?

Speaker 89 And you hand it back to me after you've appraised it. And I say, well, take another look.

Speaker 89 And, you know, by the time we've passed it back and forth eight times, each one of the times we hand it from one to the other is a separate felony. Now, no one, sensible, ever charges it that way.

Speaker 89 There's just two of us and one set of stolen property. But you can see the mischief that can be made

Speaker 89 if you get hyper-technical about what they say a distribution means. So what I think happened here is, especially with Stormy Daniels, this is the easiest one to explain.

Speaker 89 Michael Cohen lays out the money. And then they decide they're going to pay Cohen by making it look like he's getting paid legal fees rather than being reimbursed for a loan.

Speaker 89 So they decide to pay him over 12 installments. They have him submit an invoice, and then Trump or someone in the Trump organization pays him a check.

Speaker 89 So what I imagine is with each individual payment, there's an invoice, there's a check, and there's some entry on the records.

Speaker 89 So just, you know, based on what the example I just gave you, you can easily see where we could come up with 36 charges, right, just from that, even though it's all one scheme.

Speaker 89 So that's the kind of game they're playing here.

Speaker 89 And the idea, Glenn, is there's not much evidence here, but it's a subtle way of trying to convey to the jury that this guy must be a terrible guy, because otherwise, why would the state have lodged 34 counts against him?

Speaker 33 Correct.

Speaker 89 Oh, my God, he must be Nikki Barnes.

Speaker 6 So

Speaker 126 when you look at these charges, first of all, is it illegal for Donald Trump to pay either of these women off?

Speaker 89 No.

Speaker 89 Nondisclosure agreements are a staple of civil litigation in the United States. They happen all the time.

Speaker 104 And that's not even immoral.

Speaker 110 I mean, what they were charging may have been immoral, but for him to pay them off, it's not immoral and it's not illegal.

Speaker 155 It's a business transaction.

Speaker 14 It happens all the time.

Speaker 89 Right.

Speaker 89 So what what's going on is Bragg, in his mind, as a progressive Democrat, he has decided that it can't possibly be that the Democrats ran an atrocious candidate against Trump.

Speaker 89 It must be that he stole the 2016 election. And the way he did it was by having these dark hush money arrangements, which he didn't disclose before Election Day.
And that's why Mrs.

Speaker 89 Clinton was defeated. So this has to be pursued as if it were a violation of the campaign finance laws.

Speaker 89 And mind you, Glenn, if it actually was a campaign finance expenditure, which I don't think it was as a matter of law, Trump wouldn't have had to disclose it, even if he considered it one, until long after the 2016 election.

Speaker 89 So this whole thing is like left-wing fantasy land, but that's what we're...

Speaker 7 So wait a minute.

Speaker 14 But they're trying to get him because they claimed it was legal, which seems more reasonable to me that it was illegal.

Speaker 24 You are taking and you are paying somebody and you're having your attorney have them sign a paper. So

Speaker 129 it's a legal expense.

Speaker 98 In my book, it would be, much more than campaign.

Speaker 126 If he would have made a campaign

Speaker 113 expenditure, then he's using campaign money for personal stuff.

Speaker 94 I mean, that would have been worse, wouldn't it?

Speaker 89 Yeah, they would have gotten him on that.

Speaker 89 This is not one of these things where there's a way out. There's not.
I mean, they get him coming and going.

Speaker 89 If he didn't disclose it, it's because he was intentionally violating the campaign finance laws.

Speaker 89 And if he had disclosed it as a campaign expense, they would have said how outrageous it was that would use campaign funds for something like this. So, yes,

Speaker 89 it's Costco.

Speaker 89 I mean, they just get him whichever way he goes.

Speaker 91 Giving

Speaker 140 the other side the benefit of the doubt, giving the prosecution, and I don't know if you can, but try, giving them a benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 47 Is there any way you could make this case make sense without politics?

Speaker 89 No.

Speaker 89 Well, no, but

Speaker 89 to broaden the lens,

Speaker 89 Brad's agenda with respect to everyone who's not named Donald Trump is to not prosecute. Correct.

Speaker 89 So what we have in New York is we have very serious crimes which are felonies, which he either pleads down to misdemeanors or, just as commonly, doesn't prosecute at all.

Speaker 89 So the thought that anybody in New York would be prosecuted for misdemeanor falsification of records is very hard to take because we have people committing serious crimes here who don't get prosecuted.

Speaker 89 So it's really hard to take the politics out of this, Glenn. Plus,

Speaker 89 just to go back to the beginning, he's an elected official. He's not an appointed law enforcement official.
He got elected promising to leverage his power against Trump.

Speaker 163 Okay, we're talking to Andy McCarthy.

Speaker 105 Hang on just a second for one minute, Andy.

Speaker 163 I want to come back and I want to talk to you about how does a misdemeanor become a felony?

Speaker 7 And then also, they're talking about a gag order.

Speaker 55 And I don't even understand how you could legally do that to Donald Trump.

Speaker 21 But we'll go back to Andy here in 60 seconds.

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Speaker 113 Now, isn't the exact same thing that Donald Trump is accused of doing?

Speaker 47 Isn't it the same thing that Hillary Clinton was accused and convicted of doing or her campaign?

Speaker 89 Well, what he's formally going to be accused of is falsifying Trump organization business records.

Speaker 89 And the way they get that into a felony is in New York, the misdemeanor can become a felony if the person was trying to cover up another crime. by falsifying the records.

Speaker 89 So I don't even think they're going to be able to prove, if it's a fair proceeding, that there's a falsification of records because for that, you have to show that the person acted with an intent to defraud.

Speaker 89 And I don't see any intent to defraud here. There's nobody who was conceivably harmed by the way that they booked this thing.

Speaker 89 But it's even more preposterous to say that he concealed another crime because the crime I think they want to point to is campaign finance violations, the failure to disclose this as a campaign

Speaker 89 in-kind donation.

Speaker 89 And not only was it not one, but more to the point, when the New York statute talks about concealing another crime, what they're obviously talking about is a New York penal crime, not a federal campaign finance crime.

Speaker 89 So I don't think that Bragg even has jurisdiction to enforce the federal

Speaker 89 campaign finance laws if there was a violation here, which I don't think there was.

Speaker 126 But didn't Hillary Clinton

Speaker 93 charged because of the steel dossier?

Speaker 24 She marked it down as a legal expense.

Speaker 47 Isn't that the same, pretty much the same thing?

Speaker 89 Yes.

Speaker 89 In other words, misrepresenting what was an in-kind campaign contribution as legal

Speaker 89 fees. That's exactly right.
Yes. Correct.

Speaker 157 And so she paid a fine, and that's a misdemeanor.

Speaker 89 Glenn, that's the other thing here.

Speaker 89 Nobody gets prosecuted for

Speaker 89 these campaign finance violations. The Obama campaign in 2008 had like a record, I don't remember, it was like $2.5 million

Speaker 89 violation. They paid a $300,000 fine.
The last person prominently who was prosecuted for one of these things, John Edwards, the case was a disaster.

Speaker 89 And this is actually an amusing bit because, you know, for Bragg to win,

Speaker 89 he has to show that Trump not only knew that he had committed a campaign finance violation, but that he acted with that in mind in falsifying the records.

Speaker 89 I don't know how he could have known this was a campaign finance violation, putting aside that it wasn't, when in the Edwards case, there's two federal bureaucracies that regulate this, the Justice Department and the Federal Election Commission.

Speaker 89 They disagreed on whether it was a campaign violation. The FEC said no.
The Justice Department prosecuted it.

Speaker 159 And then the judge looked at it and said, well, you know, maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

Speaker 89 He let it go to the jury, and the jury said no. So who knows what a campaign financial

Speaker 94 Andy, I don't know if you have time, but if you do, I'd like to

Speaker 129 hold you over for the next break here in a couple of minutes because I do want to get into his attorney and also what can they do?

Speaker 63 Can they silence Donald Trump?

Speaker 34 Can you hang out for a few?

Speaker 68 Yes, sure. Great.

Speaker 66 Andy McCarthy, Andrew McCarthy, former U.S.

Speaker 63 prosecutor, knows this like the back of his hand.

Speaker 163 More in a minute.

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Speaker 61 Indictment's coming down.

Speaker 166 President Trump's going to be leaving

Speaker 41 his apartment at the Trump Tower in a little while and head to the arraignment in Manhattan Court.

Speaker 133 Andrew McCarthy is with us.

Speaker 134 He is

Speaker 121 an amazing guy.

Speaker 74 When it comes to stuff like this, he's got it all locked up.

Speaker 3 You can watch the McCarthy Report, the podcast, or listen to it, the McCarthy Report podcast.

Speaker 164 All of his work

Speaker 110 is fantastic on this and more.

Speaker 120 All of his work is up at nationalreview.com, and you can follow him on Twitter at Andrew C.

Speaker 135 McCarthy.

Speaker 120 So, Andy, tell me about

Speaker 72 the representation that Donald Trump has.

Speaker 140 Does he have a serious attorney?

Speaker 89 Yeah, he's got good lawyers in New York, Glenn, and he added an experienced

Speaker 89 former prosecutor, white-collar defense lawyer who's very good, was added to the team yesterday.

Speaker 89 And this is a business records case in the end, so it's good to have somebody who knows the nuts and bolts of how you make a case like that and how you dismantle it.

Speaker 67 Okay.

Speaker 101 And there's talk about

Speaker 105 Trump saying things and them charging him with additional crimes.

Speaker 163 If he's speaking out against the district attorney, I have heard that there's a possible gag order from the judge.

Speaker 50 Is any of that possible with a presidential candidate who's currently running?

Speaker 89 Yeah, I don't think that there's a constitutional case for any gag order on Trump.

Speaker 89 Now, there's a long tradition, Glenn, that judges can gag the lawyers in cases before them because as part of the privilege of practicing before a bar, you surrender some of your rights.

Speaker 89 And also to get discovery in the case,

Speaker 89 you have to comply with the judge's directive but Donald Trump is not a volunteer he's being dragged in

Speaker 89 you know against his will obviously on this so it's not like he agreed as a as a price of participating in this process to surrender any of his rights and this is one of the the

Speaker 89 you know million awful things that we're going to have to deal with where you have this intrusion of law enforcement process into electoral politics, which should never happen unless there's a really serious crime supported by convincing evidence.

Speaker 89 Every day we're going to come up against some question of how this criminal process inhibits somebody who's trying to run for office, which he's got a right to do.

Speaker 89 But it's particularly untoward, I think, Glenn, for this to happen in New York.

Speaker 89 And I don't mean to sound like a broken record on this, but they have chosen in this state to make their criminal justice system infused with electoral politics. They elect the district attorney.

Speaker 89 It's a political process from the beginning. So the idea that Bragg,

Speaker 89 after politicizing this thing the way he's done, he can now file an indictment and now everybody's got to behave and act like this is all controlled by due process rules after he's spent like months and over a year poisoning the jury pool, now Trump has to shut up because we're worried about tainting the jury pool.

Speaker 89 I mean, that's preposterous.

Speaker 36 Ridiculous.

Speaker 12 All right.

Speaker 130 Last question.

Speaker 152 How do you see this working out in the end?

Speaker 89 If the case is

Speaker 89 presided fairly

Speaker 89 by the judge, then this case should be thrown out on the papers long before it ever gets to trial. I think the statue of limitations.

Speaker 118 Isn't that horrifying, Andrew, that you have to say that?

Speaker 114 If this case is fairly adjudicated

Speaker 33 in America?

Speaker 89 Glenn, if you had talked if we had had this conversation three weeks ago, I would have said

Speaker 89 if the district attorney faithfully executes his office, then Trump will never be charged. Now we're on to the next phase, right?

Speaker 152 It's crazy.

Speaker 112 Just crazy.

Speaker 131 Andrew, thank you so much.

Speaker 134 We look forward to hearing your

Speaker 129 words on exactly what things mean as soon as you can take a look at them.

Speaker 155 Thank you so much.

Speaker 89 Thanks so much, Glenn. You bet.

Speaker 110 Make sure you're following Andrew McCarthy.

Speaker 98 He'll have great stuff out on it today, I'm sure.

Speaker 64 You can follow him on Twitter at Andrew C.

Speaker 35 McCarthy.

Speaker 52 He's not a guy that always falls the way I expect him to fall either.

Speaker 17 I mean,

Speaker 54 he is

Speaker 73 very, very fair on all of it and speaks his mind.

Speaker 11 And you said earlier he knows this like the back of his hand. That is absolutely true.
And this is just...

Speaker 11 He knows every little bit of how all of the intricacies work here. And it's tough because at times you kind of boil this down to, well, this just feels unfair.

Speaker 11 Like the statute of limitations obviously is over. This is ridiculous.
It's interesting to hear how far they have to stretch to get this done.

Speaker 11 And he really laid that out, I thought, really well there.

Speaker 11 It really is one of those situations where

Speaker 11 the last few years, I think, the only thing that has held has been the courts. Right? Like, it feels like so many things have been overturned.

Speaker 11 So many things have gone away that is not how our foundations were intended.

Speaker 149 I think local and state courts have been dicey.

Speaker 57 I think you're getting that feeling.

Speaker 10 I know.

Speaker 120 Yeah, I think you're getting that feeling because of the Supreme Court.

Speaker 11 I know, but that is the court. That's the system holding.

Speaker 33 It's the only one.

Speaker 11 It's the only thing. I mean, we've had other good decisions as well.

Speaker 11 But it feels like there's been a lot of things that have gone down these roads. You know, like the, you know, like the

Speaker 11 eviction ban.

Speaker 13 Remember that?

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 11 They just threw this out there and you're just like, wait a minute, there's no way the president can do this, right?

Speaker 13 And it got all the way there to the Supreme Court.

Speaker 11 And the last,

Speaker 11 the last line of defense said, okay, no, he can't do that.

Speaker 103 And that's the only thing holding.

Speaker 13 Yes.

Speaker 11 And I feel like we're at, this is really where we are. The system, we can't say that the system has been overturned because this is only part of the system.

Speaker 11 Alvin Bragg is part of the system, but as a whole, the system is designed to overturn things like this.

Speaker 11 You're supposed to be able to have enough checks and balances to have it so that one random guy who wants to make a name for himself and please his donors

Speaker 11 can't get away with overturning presidential candidates.

Speaker 146 And man, I don't know.

Speaker 146 We are near that.

Speaker 11 that line. I really hope the system holds again.

Speaker 11 I think it will in this case.

Speaker 11 I'm not as certain in some of the others, but this one I think is so completely ridiculous and so obviously over the line that I think the courts will stop this eventually.

Speaker 11 But, you know, they're going to drag them through hell before.

Speaker 132 That'll be a year.

Speaker 146 Yeah.

Speaker 11 And it may very well be after the primary or after the election before we actually see this overturned.

Speaker 153 Just crazy.

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Speaker 162 As we look, there's not a gigantic crowd

Speaker 12 around

Speaker 22 the

Speaker 14 halls of justice

Speaker 126 in New York. There are people that are gathered around.

Speaker 131 I urge you to stay calm and know exactly who is by your side.

Speaker 24 I think January 6th, if it taught us one thing,

Speaker 128 it taught us that the people who always chant, no justice, no peace, mean for us, no peace, no justice.

Speaker 160 And so be very, very, very careful and know who you are aligning yourself with and keep your eyes peeled

Speaker 37 and always,

Speaker 74 always walk towards peace and justice.

Speaker 11 Yeah, because if you do anything else, you're going to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law

Speaker 11 because you don't support abortion and you don't support high taxes and you don't support socialism. So you're going to lose if you try to do any of that.

Speaker 11 And by the way, like I obviously don't support it for a hundred other reasons, but anything out of line with the law is going to get you in trouble when you will watch your political opponents burn down cities and walk away free.

Speaker 11 Yep, that is how this society works right now. And you should know it going in.
You might think it's wrong, but you better understand what the rules are.

Speaker 71 Right.

Speaker 11 And those are the rules right now.

Speaker 134 And there are ways to

Speaker 15 have your voice be heard.

Speaker 149 Things you can do.

Speaker 3 The most important thing you can do is make sure that your district attorney in your city, that your city council, everything else, your school board is locked up tight.

Speaker 14 You need to pay attention locally because that's where they're attacking locally.

Speaker 17 So,

Speaker 61 you know, just button everything up and you can be vocal on Twitter and everything else.

Speaker 126 If you feel you need to show a presence, which I think, you know, it's only the right thing to do for Donald Trump, to show, you know, support for him.

Speaker 98 He has gone through an awful lot.

Speaker 57 And he's only going through this because he dared to stand up to them.

Speaker 21 And they want to teach everybody a lesson.

Speaker 11 Donald Trump is pretty good at defending himself.

Speaker 38 No, no, no, but I mean, you know, I would like him to know that

Speaker 14 we're with you.

Speaker 33 Thank you for sure.

Speaker 11 Let me ask you this. Do you think we're going to see

Speaker 11 any rioting, clashing, violence around today?

Speaker 40 No. No.

Speaker 11 I mean, I'm obviously just asking you to predict the future here. This is the way you could know.

Speaker 92 Yeah, and I have no idea, but I just don't know.

Speaker 11 I mean, what about opposition

Speaker 11 protesters coming in?

Speaker 11 There's a big banner that has been unfurled in the streets that says Trump lies all the time. Like, those people are out today.
They're planned to be there. They've prepared with giant banners.

Speaker 11 I mean, could you see something where there's clashing going from one side and one side fights back?

Speaker 13 Are you worried about that today?

Speaker 152 Always, but I don't think that.

Speaker 94 I mean, I just, I hope we're not dumb enough to to walk into that trap.

Speaker 92 You know, maybe we are, but I, I just, I don't see it.

Speaker 11 Turning the other cheek is not easy. It's something that had to be specifically encouraged.

Speaker 50 It's something that people that marched with Martin Luther King had a very hard time holding, but they did.

Speaker 61 I mean, they, they

Speaker 9 had attack dogs and fire hoses and rubber bullets, and they did not respond.

Speaker 61 When

Speaker 98 that group of people shows up, that's when I'd feel comfortable marching

Speaker 21 but you've got to be in a different a completely different mindset I want to remind you that this is holy week we have

Speaker 35 Good Friday happening also Passover this Friday and Easter on Sunday and I would like to ask you I think there is a

Speaker 30 I think this very good case that

Speaker 93 America is just possessed.

Speaker 24 I mean, we are just possessed.

Speaker 110 There is real evil in our country.

Speaker 136 And,

Speaker 47 you know, it's worshiping ancient gods and it's evil.

Speaker 21 And there's no way to break this.

Speaker 92 You know, according to, you know, Jesus, I think it's in Matthew 14, maybe 9.

Speaker 110 He talks about, you know, trying to, the apostles trying to order a demon out of somebody, couldn't get it done.

Speaker 3 And Jesus says, Because you haven't fasted and prayed.

Speaker 86 The only way to break this is through fast and prayer.

Speaker 21 So I would really like to invite you to join me on fasting and praying and telling everybody you can to join us, fast and pray for the breaking of evil in our country and

Speaker 110 some divine providence to break our way.

Speaker 98 And if you don't know how to fast, look up in Isaiah 58:4,

Speaker 101 he talks about, you know, the people are fasting

Speaker 110 and God's not, you know, responding.

Speaker 140 And so they ask God and he says, well, your fasts lead to quarreling and fighting, lashing out with violent blows.

Speaker 122 Yeah, that's probably, he's probably saying that to the women who are like, I'm hungry.

Speaker 98 And they get hangry and it's ugly.

Speaker 23 He says, that's not a fast.

Speaker 98 If the object is to hang your head like a reed and spread sackcloth and ashes under yourself, not a fast.

Speaker 49 Here's what I want, releasing those unjustly bound, untying the thongs of the yoke, letting the oppressed go free, breaking every yoke, sharing your food with the hungry, taking the homeless poor into your home, clothing the naked when you see them, fulfilling your duty to your kinsmen.

Speaker 15 That's how you fast.

Speaker 147 It's not just a diet, it's not just eating or not eating,

Speaker 63 it's prayerfully sacrificing and doing the things

Speaker 39 that

Speaker 66 are our duty towards our kinsmen.

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Speaker 110 And spread the word this Friday, a fast and prayer for our nation.

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Speaker 75 You're right, this is a somber moment for America. It is a solemn time for America.

Speaker 76 It's really a surreal moment.

Speaker 77 It will be a solemn and somber moment.

Speaker 78 But I do think that it is a somber day that we're seeing a former president, you know, criminally charged, but it's a reminder that no one's above the law.

Speaker 81 Love or loathe Donald Trump, it's a sad day for America.

Speaker 83 Well, you know, it's obviously a somber moment, and it's a sad moment.

Speaker 84 How would you counsel people

Speaker 84 that we're looking at a moment that we ought not to be celebrating because it's a sad moment?

Speaker 85 Eric Swallow issued a statement calling the indictment, quote, a somber day for America.

Speaker 88 Adam Schiff, who was one of the managers who led Trump's first impeachment trial, told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow last night that the indictment marks a sad and sobering day.

Speaker 84 You called Trump's indictment a solemn day for our nation.

Speaker 90 As of tonight, it's a sad moment, but the President of the United States, the former president, is not above the law.

Speaker 19 Wow.

Speaker 66 It is a sobering and somber and surreal and sad and spaghetti sort of day.

Speaker 39 I was just looking for another S word.

Speaker 40 Well, you missed solemn.

Speaker 68 Solemn. Solemn Solemn day, too.

Speaker 68 Solemn.

Speaker 165 It's solemn.

Speaker 33 Solemn. It's all downhill.
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Speaker 31 Wow, the protesters are there, Stu.

Speaker 50 Donald Trump's not there.

Speaker 64 Donald Trump's not there.

Speaker 120 He's going to be leaving soon, very soon.

Speaker 98 He's getting ready to leave.

Speaker 11 I can't wait for him to get ready to leave. What a moment that will be.
What a

Speaker 11 solemn, sad,

Speaker 32 saddening,

Speaker 14 salty kind of day.

Speaker 33 Salty kind of day.

Speaker 13 It is.

Speaker 11 Is there part of you that... Because part of me, like...

Speaker 11 We all know the real serious parts of this, but like, it's also just fun to watch Donald Trump completely with a remote control

Speaker 11 manipulate the media to do whatever he wants.

Speaker 103 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 11 Like,

Speaker 116 here's the thing: there's no doubt in my mind he wins.

Speaker 143 No matter, he could be in prison, but he will win.

Speaker 32 You know what I mean?

Speaker 125 There's no doubt.

Speaker 11 He is very good at this. And of course, they're playing along with it as well.

Speaker 11 I mean, look, if Donald Trump didn't want 15 helicopters above his head as he drove from Mar-a-Lago and then from the, you know, to, from the airport to Trump Tower.

Speaker 11 He could have called NetJets and said, hey, I'm going to take a plane, not the Trump plane, but a separate plane. We're going to leave at 11.15 p.m.

Speaker 11 the night before. We're going to fly through the night.
And then we're going to get off.

Speaker 11 We'll be at Trump Tower before anyone wakes up. There is a 100% chance that someone within the Donald Trump camp told all the media the exact time he was leaving.

Speaker 11 So they could all be up there and watch him go because Donald Trump wants that. He knows this is his game to play.
And he is literally programming every major news network to.

Speaker 11 He is so. He does this better than anybody.

Speaker 4 I'm telling you, I'm telling you, the media should charge him rent.

Speaker 5 He's living in their head all the time.

Speaker 40 And they all the time.

Speaker 11 They just act like they are sad and somber.

Speaker 157 No, it's a sad and somber and

Speaker 103 sobering.

Speaker 28 It's a sobering, somber, solemn.

Speaker 98 It's not a solemn, sad day.

Speaker 11 It is. And they act that way.
And then they also act like they don't like it, which, of course, they do. They want, they know this is going to bring in the ratings.

Speaker 11 They know people are going to be hate watching it. They know people are going to be tuning in.

Speaker 33 And they're happy.

Speaker 13 And they're happy.

Speaker 144 And they believe,

Speaker 24 you know, like Stalin did.

Speaker 126 Show me the person and I'll find the crime.

Speaker 11 They want to see this guy get in trouble.

Speaker 11 And then, of course, they also, I think, and this is the part that is highly questionable on their behalf because they've already been burned by this philosophy.

Speaker 11 But they want Trump to win this primary. They want Trump to be the guy that Joe Biden faces because they think they can beat him.

Speaker 146 And they've been burned by that belief before.

Speaker 144 Yeah, but so have we.

Speaker 91 I mean,

Speaker 5 Biden.

Speaker 11 You want Biden because he's beatable?

Speaker 92 No, Biden was the one that beat Trump.

Speaker 24 And, you know, in 2016, they were like,

Speaker 50 yeah, we want him for Hillary because Hillary will kill him.

Speaker 32 And they got burned. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 129 And then we felt, how can you lose to this guy?

Speaker 160 And

Speaker 3 the answer is cheating.

Speaker 68 But

Speaker 158 I don't know how it's going to come out this time.

Speaker 11 If you listen to their telling, this is how they see this story. 2016, one, this is really what they believe.
Crazy

Speaker 11 Russian hacking probably.

Speaker 11 You know, he didn't tell anybody about the Stormy Daniels thing. That would have changed things.

Speaker 11 And we focused too much on the Hillary email scandal. And that was just a quirky thing.
And it was before people knew what Trump would be like as a president.

Speaker 149 Yeah, and we gave him too much airtime.

Speaker 11 And we gave him too much airtime, which, again, is a strange thing that they seem to be doing again this time. But.

Speaker 11 Then what they see as what, again, I'm not endorsing this narrative, but their narrative is in 2018,

Speaker 11 people saw Trump in office, and a bunch of the candidates he recommended lost. We were able to have more success in 2018 than we expected.
2020, we understood the Trump playbook.

Speaker 11 We knew how to beat him. We did.
We went out there and we got it done. 2022, Trump's candidates got beat up pretty badly in the election.
They performed, I think the stat is five points behind.

Speaker 11 non-Trump endorsed candidates. And we have a playbook.
We know how to beat this guy. Even with our terrible president who's doing a terrible job, we can beat this guy.

Speaker 11 What's their plan to beat Ron DeSantis? You saw it with Charlie Crist. He lay off by 19 points in Florida, which used to be a swing state.

Speaker 13 And in the previous election was a 0.4% difference.

Speaker 11 Now,

Speaker 11 I'm not saying they're right on that analysis because there's a lot of variables here.

Speaker 11 And if they truly believed that Donald Trump was a unique threat to democracy, Surely they would not be doing what they're doing. Surely they would not be doing what they're doing.

Speaker 11 Because if you put put anybody in a two-person race, either side can win. We are in a, remember, what's the biggest blowout election over the last, I don't know, in this era of partisanship?

Speaker 11 Probably McCain-Obama, right?

Speaker 11 Obama blew out McCain. That was, you know what that, what that margin was popular vote-wise? I want to say it was 5346.

Speaker 11 Okay, these are not blowout elections.

Speaker 146 We are not in an era of blowout elections.

Speaker 135 No, and I and I don't know, that's why I say I don't know how this one wins.

Speaker 98 I mean, this one ends up.

Speaker 80 I don't know if Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis or anybody

Speaker 55 is a blowout by, you could have unemployment and

Speaker 110 depression happening.

Speaker 46 And I'm not sure

Speaker 104 Joe Biden is beatable because of the system and the way our mentality is right now.

Speaker 59 Everybody's just like, bad, bad, they're good, they're bad.

Speaker 27 And they're not thinking at all.

Speaker 11 I mean, we're in an era where basically 46%

Speaker 11 is the floor for either one of these two parties. Right.
So you're talking about a really small, narrow window for either side to win.

Speaker 11 They think they could do it because they believe in the middle there, that 8% that might decide an election, at least 5% of those people will never vote for Donald Trump.

Speaker 11 Now, they may be very wrong on that, but that is what they believe. And that's, it explains

Speaker 11 the way they're handling this. They want to elevate Trump in the primary because they think they can beat him.

Speaker 146 They may very well be wrong on that, but that is what they believe.

Speaker 148 And they also hate his guts, of course.

Speaker 103 All that's true, too.

Speaker 11 I mean, they hate his guts. They want him to be in physical, mental anguish, whatever they can.
I mean,

Speaker 131 this is going to be amazing because this is only one of five.

Speaker 92 He's got five cases going against him right now.

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 11 And the others are varying. Like

Speaker 11 you've got a tax situation, which, you know,

Speaker 11 is not at all sexy, right? Like, there's not much going on there. You have the documents one, which I believe to be the absolute least.

Speaker 11 interesting and least impactful. Everyone's like, oh, these documents.
The guy was already president of the United States. He already saw all of these documents.

Speaker 11 It's not like he's stealing information.

Speaker 11 The fact that he's storing them in in a place you didn't like might be a minor violation of well, we know it's a minor violation because everybody seemed to have them.

Speaker 59 Yeah, I know. Everyone seems to have them.

Speaker 124 I mean, the only ones in America that don't have them are you, me, and the listener.

Speaker 33 I have three. Oh, okay.
So it's just you and me right now.

Speaker 124 Yes. You know, Stu's got them.

Speaker 59 I've got you and me.

Speaker 11 So, like,

Speaker 11 you have that. Then you have the two January 6th or election-related.
You have the January 6th major one about all of it with riots and all that other stuff that they're trying to do.

Speaker 60 It's not going to go anywhere.

Speaker 11 Hard to believe, especially watching

Speaker 146 the committee, which was a joke.

Speaker 11 It was a joke. And it was a joke.

Speaker 11 Then you have the Georgia one, which is potentially more interesting if you're a person who on the left who wants to take out Trump, just because you have the combination of brag, right, where you have a local sort of person going through this and can kind of take a lot of liberties that you might not take at the national level.

Speaker 11 And you have, you know, you have a phone call. You have probably a lot of text messages they have of people exchanging information in a chaotic time.
Who knows what was said by who.

Speaker 11 They've already said basically

Speaker 11 they're going to indict some people in that.

Speaker 11 The fourth of the jury is like coming out doing interviews about it. So, I mean, that one you could.

Speaker 70 They couldn't wait to get Trump. They were just waiting.

Speaker 13 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 103 Totally.

Speaker 26 I mean, it's crazy. It's crazy.
Just crazy.

Speaker 11 The smaller this stuff gets, in some ways, the more realistic it gets because you get people who are local prosecutors who don't care

Speaker 11 about a lot of these traditional

Speaker 11 walls that have been put up to stop this type of behavior. They'll just do it anyway to heighten their own profiles.
So I think those

Speaker 11 should worry him more. But the bottom line is, like, when you get into their bet is you had a really close election in 2016 that Trump squeaked out.

Speaker 11 In 2020, you had a really close election that Biden squeaked out. Since 2020, you've had January 6th, you've had an impeachment that didn't go anywhere, but still was an impeachment.

Speaker 11 A lot of people hear that as bad. You have going to have multiple indictments that have come down against him.

Speaker 11 And, you know, the fact that he's talking still a lot about the 2020 election is not going to necessarily win over a lot of people who were undecided or on the fence in the 2020 back and forth.

Speaker 11 So you're just, that's the formula they see. And that's the reason why they believe a battle between Trump and Biden is one they could win.
And look, I think that is really, really risky for them.

Speaker 47 Especially when you know that we are headed towards economic instability.

Speaker 98 I mean, you add an economic firestorm in all of this, and Trump will look like the businessman that he is, and he'll remind people it's great.

Speaker 62 Remember what it was like? It's a great point. Remember what it was like when I was in?

Speaker 4 Yeah, they screwed it up.

Speaker 24 I fixed it. We'll fix it again.

Speaker 11 And the main reason I think it's important to highlight this is the disingenuousness of this idea that they believe he's some unique threat to democracy.

Speaker 11 And they're so patriotic, they have to stop him.

Speaker 33 They wouldn't be doing the same thing with that.

Speaker 11 They would not be doing this.

Speaker 7 If he dropped dead today,

Speaker 124 they would take all of those words and just add,

Speaker 50 take Donald Trump out and add Ron DeSantis.

Speaker 11 And they would say, the other words, two words they would add is even worse. Even worse.
Even worse than Trump. Even worse.
That Ron DeSantis is even,

Speaker 11 they already started it when they thought DeSantis was going to win

Speaker 11 and or was starting to become competitive. And he's not even in the race yet.
They're still already saying it. And if DeSantis wins, they will unite around the message that he is worse than Trump.

Speaker 11 None of this means anything to them. None of it means anything.

Speaker 10 These are all lies.

Speaker 11 And they are continuing to go down this road, making calculations about this. I mean, they are telling you the entire country is going to collapse if Donald Trump is president.

Speaker 11 And they are acting with every ounce of their being to get him through the primary.

Speaker 40 Why?

Speaker 11 If they actually cared about the country or believed that, then they wouldn't be doing this.

Speaker 11 But they, of course, don't care about the country or and or don't believe that Donald Trump is some unique threat to democracy.

Speaker 24 Well, he's not the threat that Mitt Romney was.

Speaker 11 Right. And who's the worst guy ever before, you know, George W.
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Speaker 33 stop it.

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Speaker 127 Hey, I'm listening to

Speaker 94 I'm listening to a book.

Speaker 129 Who's the guy that did the Shemita and

Speaker 132 The Harbinger? Harbinger. What was his name?

Speaker 5 Khan?

Speaker 40 Yeah, Jonathan Khan.

Speaker 8 So I'm...

Speaker 8 Kahn?

Speaker 86 No, I think that was a different.

Speaker 32 That's

Speaker 134 I'm I've been listening to his book lately, The Return of the Gods.

Speaker 65 It is really good.

Speaker 132 It is really, really good.

Speaker 123 And you remember when we had the Eye of Moloch, oh, so many years ago?

Speaker 136 And

Speaker 164 I made the case in that book that we were worshiping the ancient gods.

Speaker 21 And I've been telling you that for a while.

Speaker 25 Well, he's put it all together.

Speaker 70 I mean, he's smarter than I am.

Speaker 92 And, you know, so he wrote a book about it.

Speaker 43 But he's put three gods together, this unholy trinity, that he claims that we are worshiping.

Speaker 73 And I believe him, whether we know it or not, all of the rituals that go along with these three gods, terrifying.

Speaker 91 And we're doing all of them as a society.

Speaker 49 And

Speaker 33 it's not good.

Speaker 100 It's going to be suboptimal.

Speaker 72 It's like, I don't know, I don't know if you read that the

Speaker 21 LA County Jail is, they're thinking about just letting everybody go.

Speaker 5 Oh, good.

Speaker 113 Yeah. And I'm thinking,

Speaker 66 I'm interested to see how that works out for them.

Speaker 32 Well, I'm sure.

Speaker 25 I'm sure it's going to be well.

Speaker 100 I kind of feel like that's what God's saying to us right now.

Speaker 119 Huh.

Speaker 2 Worshiping those three gods.

Speaker 24 Hmm. I'm interested to see how that works out for you.

Speaker 146 Tell me more.

Speaker 13 Tell me more.

Speaker 103 Let me sip some tea with that.

Speaker 58 Not really.

Speaker 69 It's suboptimal.

Speaker 109 Suboptimal is a good word for it.

Speaker 86 We're going to be talking about how America has fallen into evil.

Speaker 43 There's a new movie coming out called Nefarious.

Speaker 156 It has its premiere in Dallas here tonight.

Speaker 44 We're going to be going, and one of the stars who you may know

Speaker 166 from other TV shows and movies is going to be joining us.

Speaker 43 He started out as the young Indiana Jones in the Chronicles of Indiana Jones.

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Speaker 155 I'm sure you have, months, years, and I know you've tried everything.

Speaker 43 You've gone to every doctor, you listen to everything.

Speaker 126 You've tried different things.

Speaker 129 And, you know, the only thing that works maybe doesn't really take away the pain, just makes you care less.

Speaker 33 Because you're just like, yeah, I mean, i'm in excruciating pain but i don't really care all that much how about getting your life back getting out of pain

Speaker 131 i discovered and when i say discovered i mean my wife discovered and then forced me to take it well didn't force me she just highly recommended it because she said i won't listen to you whine anymore and i'm like you gotta that's what you do anyway i got relief factor i'm out of pain may i highly recommend that you just try the three-week quick start?

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Speaker 11 Hello? You should have accepted my offer, James.

Speaker 168 Execution scheduled for 11 p.m. But he's trying to convince us he's gone insane

Speaker 20 And therefore incapable of being executed.

Speaker 108 I need you to prove he's faking it.

Speaker 170 Edward?

Speaker 20 I'm going to ask you some questions.

Speaker 20 I'm not Edward.

Speaker 20 I'm a demon.

Speaker 23 Demons aren't really a thing.

Speaker 23 What happened to Edward? We own him.

Speaker 23 We?

Speaker 23 He's a master manipulator.

Speaker 168 You have your head so twisted around you think you're the killer, not him.

Speaker 87 And give me something to make me believe you. Prove to me you're a demon.

Speaker 40 Probably just a coincidence.

Speaker 33 I want to talk to

Speaker 33 Edward.

Speaker 20 Makes me do bad things.

Speaker 67 I can't stop him.

Speaker 168 I need you to see something.

Speaker 168 You got a fan. Did the same thing with all his victims.

Speaker 87 Help me. I'm trying to, Edward, but you have to answer my questions.
You have to tell me the truth.

Speaker 79 It won't let me.

Speaker 68 It can go away.

Speaker 87 It can go away.

Speaker 33 Yes?

Speaker 33 No.

Speaker 66 This is a trailer for the movie Nefarious.

Speaker 49 It premieres tonight.

Speaker 156 It releases nationwide April 14th.

Speaker 96 It is very, very powerful, especially with everything that is going on.

Speaker 35 I mean, I think evil has swept the country, and most people don't recognize it.

Speaker 134 And that's kind of what this story is all about.

Speaker 129 Sean Patrick Flannery is the guy who plays nefarious.

Speaker 136 And

Speaker 135 Sean, I just told you this off the air, and I mean this sincerely.

Speaker 24 I don't say this very often.

Speaker 30 You deserve an Oscar for this role.

Speaker 153 I mean, it is it's fantastic.

Speaker 47 Did you see Split by any chance?

Speaker 54 Yes, Stu?

Speaker 162 Okay, remember how great that was

Speaker 35 and he played it so well?

Speaker 126 Even better here.

Speaker 162 And

Speaker 35 the dynamic range is remarkable.

Speaker 114 I mean, this movie pretty much takes place in one room,

Speaker 21 and you hold the audience riveted for 90 minutes.

Speaker 128 It's amazing.

Speaker 150 I really appreciate that. I do.

Speaker 144 Thank you.

Speaker 35 So you were in, in case people,

Speaker 129 you know, don't recognize the name, Boondock Saints.

Speaker 3 He was in Suicide King, Simply Irresistible.

Speaker 156 He was in the Strip.

Speaker 49 He just played Gunpowder in the Boys.

Speaker 74 He's on Dexter.

Speaker 136 And

Speaker 131 now he's in

Speaker 17 Steve Dace's film, which has got to be kind of, you have to, wow, I've fallen really way off.

Speaker 20 You know, I got to say, you know, in my opinion, you know, these roles, you know, the director, Chuck and Carrie, I worked with them for the first time in 2004. And

Speaker 20 they're two of the most amazing writers I've ever worked with. And I told them after shooting that film, I said, I would do a Froot Loops commercial with you guys.

Speaker 20 And they called me a year and a half ago, and they said, We have a Fruit Loops commercial. And I said,

Speaker 20 I'm in. Put me in, coach.
They sent me the script.

Speaker 70 And

Speaker 20 to me, these roles are why you get into the business. These roles are why you move away from home and get around the house.

Speaker 35 It's like a lifetime kind of role, once-in-a-lifetime kind of role, where you are 90 minutes.

Speaker 9 It's all based on your act.

Speaker 24 I've never seen an actor with the entire movie on his back, but that's the way this movie is because it's all about Nefarious, which is

Speaker 30 like the screw tapes letters from C.S.

Speaker 152 Lewis.

Speaker 35 And you play a demon-possessed individual.

Speaker 47 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 20 This to me, like I said, is why you move out.

Speaker 20 And

Speaker 20 it's also a film that I stand behind.

Speaker 166 I think it's arguably the most,

Speaker 20 inarguably, the most important film I've ever done. It's, you know, as a dad, as a father, it's

Speaker 20 things that I firmly, stoutly believe in.

Speaker 119 And

Speaker 123 it's really, you know,

Speaker 152 back in the 70s when I was a kid, we had the exorcist and,

Speaker 74 you know, that had a lot of special effects and everything else in it.

Speaker 24 This doesn't have any special effects.

Speaker 155 And it is as terrifying as

Speaker 57 that was because it's

Speaker 35 real.

Speaker 74 And what you're doing is you're talking to this guy across the table in the prison before you're executed.

Speaker 129 And he's trying to either prove that you're insane or not.

Speaker 136 And

Speaker 5 you

Speaker 134 are, as the demon, you're excited to tell him all about it.

Speaker 47 And he doesn't believe it.

Speaker 154 He just doesn't believe that demons are real.

Speaker 20 Well, I think it's a little bit, you know, shocking, surprising, and also not surprising that what the devil would potentially say is that accessible.

Speaker 20 You know, what he says, you completely understand. And it laid out in the way that they wrote the script.
It completely makes sense in pursuit pursuit of what you would imagine Satan's goal would be.

Speaker 140 Right.

Speaker 20 And he's executing it flawlessly.

Speaker 131 And it is so when you pop back from the

Speaker 152 body, the soul of the guy that Nefarious has taken

Speaker 122 and you see the torture that that guy is in and will forever be in, is,

Speaker 114 my gosh, it's just so powerful when you see him, you know, help me, help me, help me, please.

Speaker 47 And then back in.

Speaker 70 The character is kind of

Speaker 109 let out for just a, you know, I don't know, as a plaything or something.

Speaker 20 Well, you know, I figure there has to be brief glimpses of who the real person is, you know, interspersed with, you know, the display of Satan embodying this person. But,

Speaker 20 you know, it starts in the writing. It honestly does.

Speaker 46 When things are written that well,

Speaker 20 it makes the process of

Speaker 139 acting just easy.

Speaker 130 What was the filming like?

Speaker 16 Was it different than other movies?

Speaker 20 It was very different.

Speaker 20 I think we initially had 20, 21 days to shoot it. When we showed up, the first day, there was protesters picketing outside about some,

Speaker 20 presumably some union issues. And

Speaker 20 yes, yes, yeah, figure that out. Yeah, yeah.
And so they shut us down. And we just, I was parked in my hotel for about five, six days.

Speaker 20 And Chuck and Carrie called and they said, okay, you know, we're back.

Speaker 112 We're back up.

Speaker 73 They had to completely recrew.

Speaker 20 So they had to fly out of Brent, a whole new crew. And then we ended up shooting everything that you see there, at least at the table, I shot in eight days.
Wow.

Speaker 47 And to make it, you know,

Speaker 20 they said

Speaker 20 we can get more days, but it'll push through Christmas. And I said, I have to be home for my family on Christmas.
So let's load up the work days. Let's get it done so I can go home for Christmas Eve.

Speaker 20 I still hadn't bought my wife a present.

Speaker 36 You know what I mean?

Speaker 20 It's kind of a tradition that we go to Ace Hardware on Christmas Eve and get her her robe and a lot of things. So I couldn't miss that.

Speaker 20 I think the first day we shot 17 pages of all dialogue at a table.

Speaker 130 It had to be exhausting because

Speaker 53 this is physical, even though you're not

Speaker 42 standing up a lot of times.

Speaker 130 It had to just consume your energy.

Speaker 86 Yeah,

Speaker 86 that kind of work does.

Speaker 20 At the end of the day, memorization is,

Speaker 20 anybody can do it. It just requires homework.
A lot of people don't have the discipline to do the homework.

Speaker 20 There's so many aspects to bringing a character to life realistically. The least you can do, I think, is show up and know the words.

Speaker 33 The least.

Speaker 20 Now, now, if I believe the words or not, that's subjective, but the least I can do is show up and know the words.

Speaker 20 But so it did require some homework on that end. But

Speaker 20 again, when the information is so relatable, it's easy to process it and make it permanent, for me at least.

Speaker 20 And everything did make sense. The way that they laid this story out, the way that he conveyed, you know, what his goal was,

Speaker 20 citing scripture, et etc.

Speaker 20 It was a relatively easy process for me.

Speaker 130 It's interesting because it is a God movie, but unlike any God movie you've ever seen, this is just one that pretty much says, wake the hell up, wake up, because this is real and this is happening.

Speaker 21 And you're being sucked into it and you have absolutely no idea.

Speaker 133 It's really, really effective.

Speaker 144 So

Speaker 131 any thought? was there any hesitation on taking a Christian film, if you will?

Speaker 123 I mean,

Speaker 131 you're just in

Speaker 42 The Boys, not exactly a Christian film.

Speaker 4 Are you worried about being associated with something like this for your career?

Speaker 20 Not to the point that would stop me from doing it.

Speaker 20 At my core, I have to be true to myself. I think it's an important film.
I think it's one of the

Speaker 170 proudest.

Speaker 20 I'm more proud of this than

Speaker 20 probably, I appreciate that. Than 95%

Speaker 20 of the other films I've done.

Speaker 20 That's an understatement. Probably 99.
And

Speaker 20 I have to say that I wouldn't sleep at night if I passed on it for those reasons.

Speaker 20 But yes.

Speaker 170 Throughout my career, I'm very lucky.

Speaker 20 I've made a career out of doing films that mostly nobody sees.

Speaker 20 But I haven't had to get a real job. When I was eight years old, I threw papers.
I worked for Alice Fan Lines moving pianos. I worked at Church's Fried Chicken.

Speaker 20 I literally dug ditches. I put culverts under driveways.
So I know what real work is. And this is certainly not real work.

Speaker 20 But I do understand the ramifications of being attached to a film like this. But

Speaker 20 it's part of my soul. It's

Speaker 20 things that I believe in fairly strongly.

Speaker 119 And

Speaker 20 I wish the best for everybody out there.

Speaker 11 I hope

Speaker 20 it can potentially steer people in the right direction. I hope the message is received.
And if the repercussions are

Speaker 20 negative on me, then

Speaker 25 I'll take them.

Speaker 40 Deal with it.

Speaker 13 Yeah, I'll deal with it.

Speaker 155 Sean, thank you so much.

Speaker 98 Honestly, just tremendous, tremendous.

Speaker 14 It was a privilege to watch you.

Speaker 152 It's rare that you get to see an actor get the right script and then just run with it.

Speaker 5 And it was convincing and real and beautiful.

Speaker 64 Just great job. Well, from my heart, I appreciate that.

Speaker 119 I really do.

Speaker 45 Sean Patrick Flannery,

Speaker 24 he's the actor in Nefarious that plays.

Speaker 15 Nefarious is the role that you play, right?

Speaker 39 Yeah, Nefarious.

Speaker 92 What was the other guy's name that you play?

Speaker 20 He,

Speaker 20 his Jordan Belfie is the name of the actor.

Speaker 43 No, no, no. The other guy.

Speaker 132 No, no, no. The other guy that you play.

Speaker 29 Oh, Edward. Edward.
That's Edward. Yes, sir.

Speaker 152 Yeah.

Speaker 24 Nefarious and Edward.

Speaker 92 He plays both of them in this, and it's really an amazing performance.

Speaker 16 Sean Patrick Flannery.

Speaker 29 Go to get your tickets.

Speaker 24 It opens up April 14th. Whoisnefarious.com.

Speaker 74 Again, whoisnefarious.com.

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Speaker 134 You know, I know a a lot of people in the country are like, Glenn, what are you talking about when you say evil is taking over and is everywhere?

Speaker 132 You're right.

Speaker 98 Here's a teacher talking about what she does in school.

Speaker 135 She's very proud of this on TikTok. Go ahead.

Speaker 137 I teach in an explicitly trans-affirming high school.

Speaker 137 We have gender support plans. We have a gender-affirming wardrobe at our school.
We have binders on demand for our students and other shapewear can easily be ordered.

Speaker 137 We have students that express themselves in all manner of different ways. And I couldn't be prouder to work in a school that's so amazing.

Speaker 19 Right.

Speaker 35 I mean, I've got binders.

Speaker 4 You know, I like to,

Speaker 11 these are different. These are different types of binders for women.

Speaker 33 Yeah. These are these aren't the Mitt Romney kind.

Speaker 53 No.

Speaker 13 No. No.

Speaker 11 These are binding women in other ways.

Speaker 98 Yeah.

Speaker 38 And I think everybody should be proud of binders.

Speaker 24 You know, it's like I've always, I've always

Speaker 145 loved the Chinese when they used to bind women's feet.

Speaker 65 Really?

Speaker 30 No, it is, it's beautiful.

Speaker 52 It's a beautiful

Speaker 108 way to

Speaker 35 show people, I love you

Speaker 106 and you can't run from me.

Speaker 74 I think it was beautiful back in those days, you know, back in the dark ages when they used to do that.

Speaker 131 And I think it's beautiful when women are binding themselves now.

Speaker 36 Beautiful.

Speaker 103 Yeah, no,

Speaker 11 it's something, as the teacher said, it's something to be proud of. You know, anytime you can try to confuse a child out of their gender, you should be proud of that effort.

Speaker 11 And, you know, that's why we support scientific-based gender-affirming care.

Speaker 13 Right.

Speaker 147 Well, it's not scientific-based.

Speaker 138 And in fact, there's a real I don't know.

Speaker 33 It's not affirming either.

Speaker 103 It's the opposite of affirming.

Speaker 21 The rest of the world is kind of going in another direction.

Speaker 16 I don't know if you've noticed this,

Speaker 42 but

Speaker 127 they're not going in the same direction as us.

Speaker 24 I don't know if you saw the

Speaker 134 story of

Speaker 24 Boston, you know, the hospital, the children's hospital in Boston, which just said

Speaker 23 just what?

Speaker 142 A year ago?

Speaker 124 Controversy. Yeah.

Speaker 61 We're not doing any of that stuff.

Speaker 23 Now they're saying, we got to double our efforts on this.

Speaker 33 What the?

Speaker 13 What happened?

Speaker 91 They're not even trying. No, they're not.

Speaker 28 They're not.

Speaker 108 All right.

Speaker 19 We will see you tomorrow on the big program show thing that we do and really honestly do so well.

Speaker 30 We'll see you tomorrow.

Speaker 37 The Glenn Back Program.