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Okay, let's go through a couple of other things.

Just read this story.

Asteroid, the size of 22 tuna,

fly closer to Earth than the moon.

Now,

I don't know what the hell's happening,

but I've never measured things by the size of tuna.

I don't know.

Tuna could be the size of a car, size of a suitcase.

I don't know the size of tuna.

I have no idea.

I've never had to go out and hunt my own tuna, you know, and gut and clean it and then go, hey, who wants tuna fish sandwiches?

I mean,

we just have to hope that it's not a Costco, you know, economy-size can of tuna.

Right.

That could blow up the entire world.

I mean, we, I mean, I was just starting to get down with the measuring of asteroids by the size of camels.

Remember that camera

too.

What the hell is going on?

I'm telling you, aliens have taken over.

And they're like, yeah, it's about the size of 22 tuna.

That's what they say, right?

That's what the humans, they measure by tuna.

Oh, I thought it was camels.

What the hell?

It's tuna or camels.

We know that.

Those are the two competing systems, like English and metric.

You got tuna and camels.

That's the only way people understand things.

I mean, if you said

Three Mustangs.

I would go, okay, we're not talking about horses.

I don't think.

We're talking about cars, right?

Couldn't you just say three cars?

Yes, you could.

Yes, you could.

Three cars would make sense.

Yes, you could.

How many tuna is this thing?

22.

22, tuna?

22 tuna.

There's got to be something.

Yeah, 22.

22 is times the size of a tuna.

It's like that would be better to summarize this.

It's like Noah's Ark.

You know, cubits.

How big is a cubit?

I don't know.

Compare it to a tuna.

How many tunas does this ship need to be?

Anyway, did you see the Ford Mustang and Chevy Camaro dead

as of January 2024.

Going to be electric.

So the last ones are coming off the line

this year.

It'll be the 2024, but the last one off the line is January 2024, which I hate.

And have you seen the SRT Demon?

Yeah, the Challenger.

Yeah, the...

Yeah, the Dodge Challenger Demon, SRT.

There's like five names there, but man, that thing's impressive.

Let me just say, if you happen to be in the car business and you have

a,

you know, a lot, cubby gin, a Dodge Challenger, SRT demon,

I know a customer.

His name kind of sounds like Len Eck,

which is weird.

And for anybody who might, maybe my wife listening, I am not saying for me.

You know someone.

I I know somebody who would like one of these and can't find one of these.

And I'm just saying you should call 888-727-BCK so I could pass your information as a dealer

on to this friend.

That friend.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think they don't go on sale until Monday.

I think, I think it's the 27th.

I mean, I've already...

I've called around and everybody's like, I mean, my friend has called around.

Oh, you called around for your friend.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And he said he was calling around.

I was like, what?

Me get on the phone.

Maybe that'll, you know, sway some.

No, no.

Because they're only making 3,000 of these things.

3,000.

1,025 horsepower, I believe.

Yeah.

Zero to 60.

Not zero, actually.

Rolling start to 60 in 1.66 seconds.

Okay.

Holy cow.

It comes with a parachute.

I mean,

how can we abandon this technology when we're just getting good at it?

Pisses Pisses me off.

We're just mailing the combustion engine and having it do incredible things.

We're like, oh, let's just bail completely.

I know.

It just, it drives me out of my mind.

It really drives me out of my mind.

Everybody, did you see that Ford just lost $2 billion in 2022

because of EVs?

They're electric vehicles.

That division lost $2 billion.

But I mean, mean, that's, you know.

And it's, by the way, there was a big story that I think might have been in the Times as well

talking about the effects on local economies because of the electric cars.

These areas that have been built on parts manufacturing and all of this are just being destroyed.

And look,

as a guy who likes innovation, that is part of capitalism.

It does happen when you have new technology.

But what usually is the reason for it is you have new, superior technology, technology that people are choosing and want and desire, and therefore the older industry goes away.

That's not what's happening here.

No, it's not like people are choosing, they're like, I got to have an electric car.

Some people are, and they're great.

Some of them are incredible cars.

But like,

you know, I really like the Tesla.

I don't own a Tesla because

it's impossible to recharge if you're going on a long trip.

And I like to drive cross country.

So I'm not buying a Tesla.

You know, you get something where it is, you know, I'm able to go someplace and I can, you know, stop at a electric fueling station and it takes me, you know, 10 minutes to recharge it.

I'm good.

But no, I don't think the technology is, I also don't like the fact that, you know, you can burn up in your car.

But

either those two things, you know, I'm good with it.

This is, this is.

This is insane.

We do not have the transmission lines to be able to deliver this kind of electricity.

California leads the country in number of electric vehicles.

You already have brownouts and blackouts.

What are you crazy?

Where are you going to get the

electricity?

Where is that coming?

I mean, you're...

You already don't have enough.

It's just, I mean, it makes absolutely no sense.

You seem frustrated.

Almost as frustrated as I am trying to figure out what the average length of a tuna is,

which is, I've been trying to do this entire time.

And they range from,

let's see, 4.6 feet

to

9.8 feet.

For an adult male, these are larger tuna, obviously.

So we don't know if it's male or female.

We don't know.

But like, is it an albacore at 4.6 feet?

Is it a Pacific bluefin tuna at 9.8 feet?

That's incredibly important here, right?

You're talking about doubling

the size of this asteroid.

We have no idea if this asteroid is

blue, Pacific bluefin.

Albacore tuna or Pacific bluefina?

Bluefin tuna.

We have no idea what could possibly hit the Earth today.

No idea the size of it.

It's 22 times that.

That's a lot.

That's a lot.

I mean,

is it 22 times 4 or 22 times 3?

I used to say 22 times 10.

If it hits Earth, I hope it lands on my house.

I mean, and me in it.

Not my family.

Just me.

Just.

Take me out.

Your family agrees.

Yeah.

I know they do.

But Dodge...

Dodge dealers, they do not agree.

They don't make decisions for Len Eck.

No, they don't.

He's a totally different person.

He wants one of these SRT demons like crazy.

So you should call and I'll pass your number on to Lenak.

Good dude, that Lenek.

He is a good dude.

Good dude.

Good dude.

Good dude.

Keep an America running.

Keep it buying one of these ducks.

Right.

You know, because

they may not sell out.

Would this be something?

Now, this is something, a totally different conversation.

I hate to bring it up here, but like, would this be something your wife would oppose?

If you wanted one, now I know you don't, but I'm saying, if

I wanted one, no, she would be.

Are you kidding me?

She'd kill me.

That's why I don't want one.

No, I know you don't want one.

But I would like a Dodge dealer that has access to one just to call because my friend might buy one.

Probably pretty done deal on that one.

But he'd have to talk to his wife.

But his wife is so cool.

Anyway, 888-727-B-E-C-K.

Welcome to the.

Right.

You can't design it from scratch, but your friend Len.

Right.

Lenn X could design it.

Lenny.

Vaughn in Oklahoma is on.

You're with a Dodge dealership.

Yeah, that's right.

I was calling to maybe get in touch with this friend of yours.

Yeah, now

you'll have to be careful because his wife doesn't know about this.

We'll keep it between us.

Yeah, keep it between.

And any friend of...

uh len X wife, you'll be dead to me if you tell his wife you tell his wife about this why would he why would why would you care i'm just a good friend with him just a good friend and just might you know he'll break it to his wife slowly um anyway uh he'll talk about how much money they're saving by buying this oh okay you see

you see what right okay that's right for sure yeah yeah yeah so you you have some allocated

we do we have two uh allocated to our store okay and uh i think one of them uh might have had a customer's name on it that rhymed with Len Eck.

I don't know.

Shut up.

Well, I've heard this friend of yours occasionally misspells his name and it looks like your name.

Yeah, but that bastard only does it on contracts.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, Vaughn,

we're going to get your phone number and then my friend may call you later about

now.

He sounds like me, but don't be fooled.

Okay.

Don't let him pull a prank on you like that.

Absolutely.

No,

we'll make sure that you properly identify this individual.

So for people that are looking to buy one of these,

do you get to design them or are they just coming?

No, they're just coming.

They're just coming.

They're what's called the last call.

It's the last time they're going to make this engine.

Right.

But I mean,

there's no features that you can use,

right?

Can you do that?

No, not at the moment.

Wow.

Okay.

All right.

Interesting.

Because they're set for a set amount, and I believe, if I'm not mistaken, only 1,500 are coming to the U.S.

3,000, I think.

I think it was 3,000.

3,000 total in the U.S.

300 in Canada, I think.

300 in Canada, right.

So they're coming as Dodge builds them.

They're not customized.

Okay.

All right.

Okay.

Well, he'll call you or somebody from his office because sometimes they get very busy in his office.

He's,

I don't know what he does, but he's

so, you know, and if he happens to be, you know, a short drive from Oklahoma City, I don't know.

It's weird.

I think he lives by Oklahoma City.

Yeah, or near Oklahoma.

Right?

Yeah.

He lives right near Oklahoma.

City.

Yeah, which is city, Oklahoma.

It was meant to be.

Yeah, meant to be.

All right, Vaughn.

We should get Vaughn's information.

Yeah.

We should at least say what the dealership is.

Yeah, what is your dealership?

What dealership?

Bob Howard Dodge.

Bob Howard Dodge in Oklahoma City has

one

challenger.

Wow, has one been sold?

Yeah.

Apparently, I don't know.

Yeah, the guy he said it was already had a name on it.

So thank you so much, Vaughn.

Hang on.

I want to make sure we have your information and we will.

I'll have my friend reach out to you.

So

you said yourself.

Does anybody

have any advice

on how to remain married

when you have to tell your wife you want a challenger?

Has anybody done that successfully?

Love to hear.

This is the best of the Glen Beck program.

So,

probably

anybody who is my generation or a little younger,

their favorite movie is Ferris Bueller.

And in Ferris Bueller, there is this scene.

In 1930, the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, in an effort to alleviate the effects of the anyone, anyone, the Great Depression,

the anyone, anyone?

A tariff bill, the Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act, which

anyone raised or lowered

tariffs in an effort to collect more revenue for the federal government.

Did it work?

Anyone?

Anyone know the effects?

It did not work, and the United States sank deeper into the Great Depression.

Today, we have a similar debate over this.

Anyone know what this is, class?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Anyone seen this before?

The Laffer curve.

Anyone know what this says?

It says that at this point

on the revenue curve, you will get exactly the same amount of revenue

as at this point.

This is very controversial.

Does anyone know what Vice President Bush called this in 1980?

Anyone?

Something D-O-O economics.

Voodoo economics.

Okay.

Art Laffer, who the Laffer Curve is named after.

Welcome to the program.

Hi, Art.

Thank you.

It's so good talking to you, Glenn.

You're a hero of mine.

Thank you.

You are mine as well.

So, Art, you are always the most optimistic guy because you have gone into

countries that have collapsed and turned it around.

So I know we can do it.

I'd like to ask a couple of things.

What your feeling is with all of the pressures that are, I mean, we're shutting off energy.

We are on the verge of a war.

I hope to God not.

We have a possible banking collapse in our horizon.

I hope to God not.

And inflation.

So.

What is your outlook?

And then what do we, what are the most important things that we should do to encourage Congress and look for in the next president?

Well, let me just say the things you listed there, we are in those troubles.

We do have a banking crisis.

We do have inflation.

We do have a very muddled policy of the government.

And there is a land war in Europe that is going on that's quite serious and is threatening.

All those true.

Now, that doesn't mean it has to be true going forward.

I mean, just when we came into office on January 20th, 1981, Glenn, we had Jimmy Carter.

We had four presidents, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, and Carter.

What I call the four stooges.

The largest assemblage of bipartisan ignorance ever on planet Earth.

The economy had tumbled.

The stock market had fallen from 1966 to 1982.

The stock market fell by like 65% in real terms.

So we were at the tail end of a really bad hurricane.

But we could turn it around.

And I think right now is the same way.

I mean, I'm feeling very depressed about the policies that are going on, as you mentioned, and everyone knows all of them every day, all the time.

Biden wants more taxes.

His budget's $6.9 trillion.

You have people flipping you off all around the world.

It is a bad picture.

But right now, I feel that this is the time for a cataclysmic change in U.S.

policies and gives us the opportunity to really change the face of the earth all for the better.

And I think the election of 2024 portends to be a really good election for truth, beauty, and the American way.

That's me talking.

Now, the Republicans are right now as much a problem as are the Democrats.

Don't think of this in Republican-Democrat terms.

Think of this in pro-growth, pro-freedom, tax cut, controlled spending, sound money.

Think of it in those terms, not in terms of parties.

And I think we can do it, Ben.

I mean, Glenn.

So, so

that's my friend that's trying to buy a car and his wife doesn't know about it.

No, I was thinking of Ben Sign.

That clip.

So, that's all right.

So,

by the way, have you talked to Ben recently?

He's such a great guy.

I talked to him about six months ago.

I spent a lot of time with him, and he wasn't doing well at the time.

Oh, no.

Oh, if you talk to him, say hi to him for me, will you?

I sure will.

He's a great guy.

Great guy.

Such a great guy.

All right.

So, Art,

can we just take this apart here for just a second?

Have you seen,

and I'm not talking about what we can do, because I do believe if we unleash the ingenuity of the American people, really free them, and then

stop all this insanity,

we can rescue our country.

I agree with that.

But have you ever seen us in this kind of situation historically where we seem to have

all of the decks stacked against the Republic?

Yeah, I think, you know, when I mentioned 1980, before 80, I think it was all stacked against us.

It was really depressing, Glenn.

I know you were really young then, maybe not even born yet.

No, I wasn't.

But

the world was really grisly.

It was dark.

It was grim.

We didn't have

to be able to do that.

We didn't have the debt that we have now.

We didn't have the...

Oh, there are differences.

They're true, but we also didn't have the tax rates then that we have now.

Our tax rate now, highest income tax rate is 37%.

Back then, it was 70%, Glenn.

You know, we had

in

1976, now that's just a little bit before, every single state in the United States except Nevada had a death tax.

Every single one.

Today, 33 states have gotten rid of their death taxes.

So there are lots of things.

I mean, pollution, I come from Cleveland, Ohio.

Lake Erie, back then when I was a kid, to prove that you were the Christ, you wouldn't have to walk on the water.

Hell, anyone could do that.

You know, we had smog in L.A.

We had like 25

three-stage

smog alerts.

And then, you know, we were facing a horrible enemy at that time in 1980.

You know, Russia wasn't a joke back then like it is now.

I mean, so, you know, I think these times, we all tend to think of our own time as being the worst ever, but it's just as bad back then.

And partisanship was horrible post-Nixon.

I don't know if you remember, Democrats hated Republicans like mad.

They wanted to kill every Republican.

It was just like it is now.

I mean, there wasn't a civil libertarian.

There wasn't a libertarian, a pro-private person in the place that wasn't pilloried by the lefties.

And that's the same thing now.

Crime was horrendously high back then.

Well,

I'm not, don't mean to be lecturing at you, but these are very bad times today.

But bad times lead to great changes in public policy.

And if you look at the long picture, we're winning.

We're not losing.

The conservatives in this world are winning big time.

Do you

see, and you don't have to name, but do you see

one or more politicians that could actually be a Reagan and pull this off?

I see tons of them who could be.

You know, the potential here in these people, there are some really qualified people.

They have flaws and stuff like that, but they move.

I want to see people who can read and can learn from their own mistakes and other people's mistakes to do a better job, not a Doc Trina locked in the mud, you know, type of people.

Reagan learned a lot when he was governor.

He was the biggest tax increaser ever.

He passed all the anti-abortion statutes in the state of California.

He chaired the Equal Rights Amendment.

He was a union leader.

It called nationwide strikes.

And Reagan became the best president there because he learned.

But I see people like DeSantis.

I see people like Cruz.

I see people, even Trump.

I see people all over the place that have the potential of being a great president.

And as a Democrat, let me just put you, there is a guy who's governor of Colorado named Jared Polis, who is doing an amazing job.

He did not do a lockdown in Colorado.

He did not.

He was right along with the Republican governors.

He wants to get rid of the income tax there.

He's cut property taxes.

You know, he shipped

groups of illegal immigrants to Chicago and New York.

I mean, there are people all around who have the potential of being great.

So, Art,

when you look at what's happening with the Federal Reserve, I mean,

when you were with Reagan, interest rates were 18 or 19 percent, if I remember right?

Yeah, 21 and a half percent when we took office on January 20th.

There you go.

21.

21 would.

I know.

21 and a half.

That would kill everything in America today.

How, how, when you look at the Fed and they were saying, oh, this is transitory, and now it's not, and you've got the banking crisis that's just underlying everything right now, and they still raise the rates, that should tell you they're freaking out now about inflation.

Is that true or not?

Well, I think there's a difference today than there was then.

And let me do the one today.

The Fed has made huge mistakes of keeping interest rates at 0% for a long, long, long, long, long, long time.

And banks have developed their portfolio strategies, all their actions based upon zero interest rates.

So now, once they've made the mistake of thinking the world is zero interest and they've got those portfolios, there is no way we can adjust back to market rates without having grave ramifications in the banking system and other financial institutions as well.

So how do we

get out of the business of controlling interest rates, the better off we'll be?

Free markets should do that.

Not some Jay Powell whose credentials are nothing like Volckers or Greenspan or McChesney-Martin's.

I mean, these people are not the competent gravitas people of the past.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: You now have the central bank of Switzerland guaranteeing

credit suisse.

Germany, central bank, said, you know, if there's problems with Deutsche Bank.

And so everybody is doing this.

How do you reverse that?

Yeah, I know.

It's tough once you're in the suit.

This is an example that, if I remember correctly, you told me once that you were an alcoholic and you got rid of it.

And, you know, it's going cold turkey.

You know, you got to stop drinking.

What is that?

And when you have a state-running monetary system, which should not be there, when you have a state-running every tax, every government spending, just stop already.

You know, two people stand in there, Glenn.

One's been a lifelong smoker, and the other one's never had a cigarette.

And you ask them both to not smoke for the next three months.

For the guy who's never had a cigarette, it's fine, let's go.

I'm fine with that.

The guy who's the three-pack a day smoker, oh my God, it's the end of the world.

We have allowed ourselves to be addicted to socialist economic policies over the last 20-plus years, and it's wreaking havoc on the U.S.

How do we get back to free markets?

And I know of only one way of getting back to free markets is doing it right now.

The Fed's balance sheet is almost $9 trillion.

I know.

I mean, we have a budget proposed of $6.9 trillion.

We have a national debt of 125% of GDP.

All of these things, Glenn, need to be stopped.

Now, how do you stop it?

You know, you stop it by going cold turkey.

Now, when we got in, we went a little cold turkey with you.

If you remember 1981, 82, 83, it wasn't the prettiest period.

No, it wasn't.

Tell me how you liked the story and the ending of that story.

I did.

Wasn't it beautiful?

You're listening to the best of the Glenbeck program.

It's amazing.

The corruption is just.

startling to me.

It is so clear and so obvious, and no one is really talking about it.

It is just all about politics.

Bill O'Reilly joins us.

Bill,

the U.S.

Attorney nominee that Joe Biden just put up

is a guy who was in the District of Pennsylvania.

And while the Delaware's U.S.

Attorney's Office

was

investigating this health care company,

he was the guy who was working on that case.

Well, that case and the defrauding of the healthcare company, the guy who was accused of defrauding it is Jim Biden.

And

he had been interviewed by

this lawyer several times.

Now, the last person that he nominated was,

let's see, Chung, Cindy Chung.

She was confirmed to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals.

Chung, whom President Biden had nominated for the federal appellate court, had been overseeing the criminal investigation into the bankrupt healthcare business AmeriCorps, a business Jim Biden allegedly siphoned hundreds of thousands of dollars from, to finance repairs for his beach house.

I mean,

what is going on there?

Two attorneys.

We need Elliott Ness

to come on in, don't we?

Boy, we do.

You know, look, I don't think at this point, for people listening listening to the Glenn Beck radio program, and you've got my Corgi all upset now.

I'm sorry.

You didn't mean to mention it.

Ollie, knock it off.

We all know about Jim Biden, okay?

Ollie apparently did not know about Jim Biden.

Yeah, it's a shock when you hear it.

Yeah, and so she's really upset.

But anyway, does anybody,

and I'm asking this seriously,

not think the Biden administration is corrupt at this point in history?

Is there anybody who doesn't think so besides Joy Joey Behar?

I mean, it's so,

but then the frustration comes back, and then people write to you, they write to me, well, what can we do about it?

And the answer is nothing,

because 80 million Americans voted for Joe Biden.

And, you know, you get what you pay for.

when you go to the store and you get who you vote for.

So my congressman is George Santos.

I voted for George Santos.

All right.

I mean, I didn't know.

You know, how many people research congresspeople's background?

I never met him.

But he's my congressman.

And I voted for him because the guy he ran against was a far-left loon, Zimmerman.

Right.

Okay.

So I got, you know, I really don't want a far-left loon representing me.

Right.

So I vote for George Santos, who turns out to be Dracula.

I mean,

so what can I do about it?

I can mock him on the radio and television, which I do,

but votes are votes.

So

yesterday, an AP poll comes out.

Joe Biden's approval rating is at 38%.

Now, I don't know anybody among those 38.

Do you know anybody who

votes?

Okay.

I know people who hate Trump, still hate him.

Yeah.

And still won't repudiate their Biden vote because they hate Trump so much.

Correct.

I know people like that.

I do.

But I don't know anyone who goes, I want that Joe Biden to run again.

I'm doing him a little Muhammad Ali.

Oh, Joe Biden to run again.

Okay?

He's the greatest.

Right.

So we all know.

The country knows.

But here's the key question.

Will the country learn?

And I'm sorry, but I don't think so.

We're just too poisoned with ideology, too emotional now.

We don't step back and really understand that you have to vote competency.

You know, when I had my supper with

Trump last week, last Tuesday,

number one, he paid for supper, and it was good at Ma-Lago.

There's good food there.

May I ask, are you a Hobbit?

What is the difference between dinner and supper?

Supper is for working class people.

Okay, all right, okay.

Dinner is for...

Okay, all right, okay.

Ma Lago.

But anyway,

two hours.

It was just Trump and me out on a little patio, you know, and all that.

And I went over, there's some of it was on the record, some of it was off the record, but I went over

some questions that I needed to know about how he did what he did.

That was what the O'Reilly Trump history tour was all about.

Okay, and now we got an update with Putin and Xi and the cartels.

Look, you may hate Donald Trump with, you know, a passion, but he has a grasp of the issues.

That's the bottom line.

He understands the dynamic.

He understands economics.

He understands foreign affairs.

He knows who the players are.

and he governed, in my opinion, in a responsible manner.

Now, once he starts on the road to

ranking out, remember ranking out when you were a kid?

I'm going to rank you out by insulting you, then it all just goes crazy.

But by

just as an administrator and trying to get the country in a strong position, Trump succeeded.

But you'll never get that from the corporate media or the people who hate him.

So

if he, I mean, he's

running again.

If he gets the nomination, and he probably will.

Yeah, I think so, too.

This all will help him.

Yes.

All of this crazy stuff will help him.

He's not a person anymore.

He's a symbol.

I really, I mean, he's a symbol of I want to fight back.

You know,

he's almost been adopted as people's

proxy in some way.

Every time he's hit, they feel the hit that they've taken.

Very good.

Very good.

Very, very good.

So it's a transferal emotion.

Yes.

So Trump is going to be in Texas tomorrow.

He's giving a speech in Texas.

Yep.

And I can guarantee you that there will be so much emotion

in that speech, not on the part of Trump, and you know what he's going to do.

I mean, just today, he called Alvin Bragg a demented psychopath or something like that, you know, in his usual, very casual way.

So, you know, Trump will give the red meat speech.

But if you look at the crowd that goes there tomorrow in Texas to see him,

they have emotion invested in the man.

Yes.

Yes, they do.

So let me ask you two things.

One, if he gets the nomination, do you think he can gain anyone who wasn't on his side last time?

Yes, because it's the grocery store vote.

Okay.

So the independents who don't necessarily hate him, but are not approving of his demeanor,

They got to go to the grocery store.

Okay?

And this is getting worse and worse and worse so he'll get a portion of those votes and then depending on who he picks as vice president and i hope it's desantis even though now they're slinging mud at each other again and i did talk to him about that and try i told him flat out i was cutting my dover soul i looked up and i said you want to get back in that overall office you got to put DeSantis on the two.

He's got to move up to Georgia, rent a little condo, and you guys have got to run together.

He did not push back on that back.

That would be

that would be a way to get the ticket through.

If he wants to be president, that's your best shot.

Okay?

If you put Carrie Lake on the second, you'll lose.

Yeah.

You think he knows that?

I'm not sure because he goes in and out.

When he's with me, the reality zone descends.

But at one in the morning, I'm not sure the reality zone is there.

Wow.

And

is there anything that

is bad enough to open this lead up?

Yes, yes.

If the recession kicks in, you've already seen Amazon and Apple and Meta and all these people laying people off.

Big time layoffs.

And you're going to see that unfortunately, and I say that sincerely, at Fox.

You're going to see layoffs now.

And that

can

lead to a recession.

So this time next year, and we will have four or five primaries already under our belt, it's coming up fast.

If the country goes into recessions, there's even more pain at the grocery store than Trump gains.

Mr.

Bill O'Reilly, thank you very much.

We'll talk to you again.

Okay, Beck, thanks for having me.

And I want you to join you and Stu, Team Normal, on billo'reilly.com.

I'm sending you gear this week.

Oh, nice.

And you'll have it.

And Team Normal is what we're doing right now.

Okay.

And I guess as part of BillO'Reilly.com, you're getting these insights of private meetings with Donald Trump all the time.

I mean, this is incredible.

Yeah.

And you're a genius, Stu.

I just want you to let you know.

Thanks a lot, Bill.

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