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Today's podcast: we take the economic situation one step forward.

We also talk to you about what Texas is doing on the border and what Florida is now doing with 18 other states to stop ESG.

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she actually told on the Robertsons podcast that's on the blaze, Unashamed.

She was at a library with Kirk Cameron and O'Reilly Games.

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the library staff freaked out on them.

And it's, you know, more woke-ism, which, by the way, I start the podcast defining.

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Yeah, you sick twisted freak.

Last night I did a program on the economy, and

I'm hoping that I'm not right on a couple of things.

Steve Forbes was watching the first 20 minutes, and I said, so Steve, what did I get wrong?

And then he started to spook me because he was like, well, no, you got the basics right here.

And they're moving to digital currency.

Run for your life.

I'm like, okay,

Steve, thank you.

But there is something that I said last night that I am still not sure I understand completely.

I asked Carol Roth to look into it.

The way I understand it, the way it has been presented to me shows

a real problem with the Fed.

And the Fed is so secretive.

You know, you can't get...

you can't get anything for five years.

So you can't check their books.

You can't see what they're doing for five years.

So I'm not sure what all of this means, but Carol has looked into it and I've got a couple of other things to report to you.

We have an update on the UCC bill that is going through your statehouse right now.

Gosh, I can, I...

I know I throw stuff at you and you're like, oh, the UCC bill, thank you.

Chief geek, I appreciate it.

I'm going to my geek meeting here in a minute.

I know that this is stuff that I would never have talked to you about before because it's like, okay, all right, I get it.

But this, everything is so critical right now.

The UCC bill ushers in cryptocurrency.

It defines digital money, and that's a

cryptocurrency from the central bank, not any other cryptocurrency.

Carol Roth, who is the author of a new book called You Will Own Nothing.

It has been pushed back for a release date of July 11th.

I think my my book

on kind of the same topic,

they make nice bookends.

Comes out July 4th.

If you want to get Carol's book, you can go to CarolRoth.com forward slash Glenn and learn all about

the projects he has as well that will help you protect your wealth in the face of forces working to take away your economic freedom.

Give me a couple of those, will you?

Carol,

can we start with that?

What should people be doing

right now?

Because I'm starting to get the feeling this may not be over.

Yeah, I mean, I think on a personal basis, you want to be doubling down and diversifying your portfolio because there's forces coming at us, as you said,

everywhere.

Hang on, talk to me about somebody who's never paid attention to their 401k, and that is the extent of of their portfolio.

Yes.

Well, I mean, obviously, this is not financial advice, and anything that you do should be based on a discussion with a financial advisor.

If you have one based on your own objectives and risk tolerance, that's the caveat because otherwise the government's going to come after Glenn and I for giving out financial advice.

But I think that if you have all of your eggs in one basket, you're 100% exposed to stock, or maybe you've never trusted the market.

So you have all of of your money sitting in the mattress you want to make sure that you have things in different form factors um certainly uh if you have a home or if you have the opportunity to buy some land that's a great thing if you have the opportunity to diversify with some physical metals not you know an etf but physical metals gold silver etc that's a good thing having some exposure to less risky bonds although less risky these days means you know all different kinds of things.

It's a good thing.

And making sure that you have, you know, kind of the basics, you know, prepped to be able to get through a difficult period is a good thing.

So it's really important that you have that level of diversification because A, we don't know, you know, where the issue is going to come from first.

And we also don't know the timeframe.

And I think that's the most important thing is that, you know, we see the trajectory that's happening, but we don't know if this is something that's going to happen within six months or if this takes a full full 10 or 15 years to undo itself.

By 2025.

Mark my words, by 2025.

But there are all kinds of things that can happen in the meantime.

So you want to make sure that you have both the opportunity for capital appreciation, especially since they are.

decreasing the purchasing power of your dollar and you want to make sure that you're keeping pace with inflation and not losing out, but also focusing on capital preservations, form factors that you can control in terms of your wealth so that

you're not SOL, so to speak, dependent on the situation.

That's the best thing you can do right now is really diversify.

Okay.

Can you explain credit Suisse for me?

Because that was having problems.

They had to run to their central bank to get $54 million or billion dollars.

And then

I haven't heard boo about

Deutsche Bank, which is always, I mean, in good times, it's like, we're about about to go under.

Yes, and then there's also First Republic, too, that's you know in the mix today.

So there's all different all kinds of fun afoot in the global banking system.

All right, so let's start with Credit Suisse.

And you know, to be fair, Credit Suisse has been just a mess for a long time.

This is a bank that has been losing money.

I think their 2022 fiscal report showed that they lost something on the order equivalent about $8 billion.

So this is not a bank that's known for being particularly particularly well run.

They've gotten caught up in all kinds of scandals and messes.

I don't know if you remember.

I think it was 2021.

There was a hedge fund, Bill Wang's hedge fund, who blew up Archegos.

And there were all different kinds of big banks that were involved.

And oh, by the way, the smart banks all got out of that really early and had almost no exposure.

And one of the banks that was left holding the bag was Credit Suisse.

I think that their exposure that they said at the time was up to something like 5.5 billion.

So this is a bank that's had all kinds of issues.

Can I ask a question?

Yes, go ahead.

We didn't have these problems when I was growing up.

And

I mean, we did, but not like this.

Did the when the banks were allowed to become

stockbrokers at the same time they're a bank, isn't that the real problem?

Shouldn't we separate these banks from stock houses?

Or, I mean, investment houses?

Yeah.

So, this actually happened while I was an investment banker.

I worked for a really great investment bank that, once this key provision of Glass-Steagall that separated investment banks from the banking system was repealed in the Clinton years, you know, it was a free-for-all and we got gobbled up first by Nations Bank and then they merged with Bank of America.

So I went through this, you know, kind of on a real-time basis.

So I think there's sort of two different aspects to it.

One is that's certainly the issue.

We know that more consolidation creates more systemic risk.

If you have things spread out, they may happen more frequently, but they're smaller in nature.

When you consolidate things together, then that creates too big to fail in a real situation.

So I think that that's kind of the issue.

And then the other one is just the financialization of everything.

If you think about what's happened over the last decades, you know, with with derivative products and more risks and the, you know, the finance on top of finance, the system has really become very bastardized.

It has gotten away from kind of the core of what it was meant to do.

And if you look at the United States in terms of, you know, our GDP, what is our biggest industry?

21% of our GDP is financial services, including insurance.

So, you know, there's been a good side to that, but there's also obviously been a lot of problems.

So

Carl Icahn said, what, yesterday, day before,

and there's a few people that are saying this, that the bailout of Silicon Valley Bank

is really the moment that we are no longer

a free market,

you know, kind of system.

You know, I saw that.

I think I saw Ken Griffin say it.

I don't know if Carl Icahn said it.

Perhaps he said that as well.

I mean, it's really laughable.

I mean, the moment that we stopped being a capitalist system was back, you know, on Black Monday when the Fed stepped in and decided that they were going to be able to support the market no matter what happened.

And that accelerated, you know, with abandon during the Great Recession financial crisis.

I mean, up until that point, we never had the Fed interfere in the markets, you know, the way that we're seeing now.

It wasn't when I, as I said, when I was growing up as a now recovering investment banker, but back at the time, like we never paid attention to what the Fed did.

It was like a mechanism of, you know, of the markets, but it wasn't that important.

We focused on fundamentals.

Now, you know, that's the

God center of the market.

We're letting a handful of people play God with the economy, and they're not doing a very good job, by the way.

So the idea that these people who have benefited from nearly 15 years of low interest rate rate policy and easy money that has transferred money from Main Street to Wall Street now think that somebody getting their payroll and not having that blown up is the end of capitalism is really, really kind of distasteful.

Let me just, I want to touch on the Fed thing, the question that I had, but I think it's so geeky that really

is it something to worry about?

Let me just ask you that.

Is it anything to worry about?

What I shared with you on the Fed?

So, I mean, I think it's just derivative of the fact that the Fed has become something to worry about.

They are a menace to society.

Their role has grown into something, you know, it's kind of like Dr.

Frankenstein.

Like, we need to stop the monster.

And the powers that they have,

you know, are just.

completely screwing up and creating all these ripple effects that clearly either they can't see or they want to have happen.

And either way, the outcome is not great for the average American.

Okay.

I want to switch and talk about the Uniform Commercial Code.

This is

redefining money.

And I have talked to legislators all over the country and they say they have never seen coordinated pushback, even on ESG, like this.

They said there is just massive power and money behind this, trying to convince everybody, oh, no, no, no, it's no big deal.

Are you up on it enough to be able to talk about it?

So, let me tell you what I do know

in terms of, and I'm not a lawyer, I don't even play one on Glenn Beck's program.

But what I do know is in order for us to have a central bank digital currency, it needs approval by Congress.

So, the more things that we have that start to change the definition of what money is and put that on a path to be stuck in the back of some bill.

And for nobody to know that this has happened is a really scary thing.

And while, as I said, I cannot interpret the legal language because I don't have that expertise to say, is that, would that count?

It kind of really sounds like that.

Yeah.

And it's, and it's blocking the way for cryptocurrency like Bitcoin.

It will not be considered money, only the central bank digital currency.

And I don't know if you saw last night's show with Steve Steve Forbes, but he was, I mean, very animated on cryptocurrency from the federal government.

He's he agreed with what you and I talked about yesterday.

End of freedom, full stop.

Well, and let's also talk about, first of all, love Steve Forbes, longtime good friend.

He's a really, really smart and good, good guy.

But here's the interesting thing is that a digital currency from the Fed actually isn't a cryptocurrency because a cryptocurrency's key property is decentralization, and a digital dollar is full centralization, the full taking of your freedom.

So, this is exactly what they're doing, Glenn.

They're trying to conflate it.

They're saying people are really into crypto.

They know it's a good thing.

They know it's a pushback.

Let's just confuse everybody and let them think, oh, this is a crypto.

We're just getting into crypto.

No, it's not crypto.

It takes the whole reason and purpose that people are into crypto is because they do not trust government fiat currency and they want to have that decentralization.

The digital dollar is, even though it may live on a blockchain, it may use some of the same technology, it is entirely centralized and it means the government will have absolute control of everything that you do because they control their money, your money.

And if they control your money, they control you.

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Would you lose hope if I said, what if Ron DeSantis or Donald Trump can't save us?

If you lose hope after hearing those words, your hope is misplaced.

What always saves America, what saves America is Americans.

We, at the last minute, when all seems lost, we finally get it and go, oh,

and we pull together.

Now, they've done everything they can to make sure that we don't stay together, but I have a sneaking suspicion that coalition that they have built is falling apart.

Courage and hope.

A letter to mainstream straddler, Live Not by Half Lies by Margaret Anna Alice.

I get it.

You don't want to be called a conspiracy theorist.

You don't want to be tarred as an anti-vaxxer, a science denier, far right-wing extremist.

You have your reputation to protect, your credibility, your grant funding.

So you just water it down.

You tiptoe around the truth.

You don't go there.

And the philanthrops, the tyrants, the big liars, the enablers continue to profit, continue to conspire, continue to torture, continue to slaughter.

They'll tell you right to your face what they're doing.

But if you then turn around and quote them, You're the crazy one.

If you ask why a child, a teen, an athlete, other healthy adults suddenly had a heart attack or got turbo cancer or died, you are the truly disgusting one.

If you provide scientific evidence that a warp speed experimental injection being peddled by a trillion-dollar industry in collusion with governments, federal agencies, the media, and big tech might be dangerous, you,

not the corporations raking in billions, are the grifter.

If you ask what's causing the sudden deaths and injuries that began surging in 2021 in hopes of preventing future such tragedies, you're just morally reprehensible.

You point out that maybe we should think twice about pushing a product, you know, estimated to have killed 13 million human beings and counting.

Well, you're the major killing force.

globally and guilty of undermining public confidence.

If you call genocide genocide, you're the enemy, the misinformation spreader, the anti-Semite.

If you dare point out never again is already happening, you get inquisitioned, even though the Holocaust survivors and their relatives agree with you.

You know you're living in a world of lies when the mob is more enraged at the whistleblowers revealing the deceptions, corruption, and murder than they are at the lying liars, the corrupt corruptors, the murdering murderers themselves.

Snowden said, said, when exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you're being ruled by criminals.

And guess what?

Once you start calling, once they start calling you those hideous names, you realize they're nothing more than magician's smoke.

You gradually start to give fewer and fewer craps about things.

You know you've hit zero when you feel the exhilarating liberation that comes from shouting the unfettered truth.

That's the words can never hurt you stage, and you become untouchable, and you start collecting libels like purple hearts, and the more scars you can count, the more evidence of your efficacy, your threat to the hegemony.

That's when you can truly live, and by truth, not by lies.

If enough of us stand up and do that, we can hold the perpetrators accountable, and we can find justice.

Once you're living in alignment with your values, you'll feel the deepest joy fathomable.

And when COVID criminals have found been found guilty, when the spells dissolve, the people will gradually awaken from their coma and recognize you for the hero you are.

Or not.

Most will be too ashamed to admit that they were conned, to realize they shielded fascist tyrants and attack those trying to rescue them.

Few find that courageous humility within themselves to acknowledge their complicity in totalitarianism, and so they will suath themselves in soothing denial and lash out to anyone who tries to puncture it.

But you will keep trying anyway, because that is what truth-tellers do.

Your bravery will outlive you.

Your words will remain like candles lighting the path for future truth-droppers.

And you will be at peace in life

and beyond.

I read that a couple of weeks ago, and I said to my staff, I need to talk to this woman.

She is amazing.

Her name is Margaret Anna Alice, and she's on the program with us now.

Hi, Margaret Ann.

Hi, Glenn.

Thank you so much for that enthusiastic reading.

I really appreciate it.

I saw a bio of you and who you admire and look up to as heroes.

And there are many of the same people

that I look up to.

And Stolus Nietzsche, this just screams Stolus-Nietzchend to me.

Well, that was quite an honor when I heard you say that.

So tell me about

your philosophy.

You just started a new sub stack, right?

Well, actually, it's been almost two years since I started.

Oh my gosh, right.

Yeah, April 2021 is when I first launched it.

And I just, I started it with a piece called A Primer for the Propagandized, Fear is the Mind Killer.

and I had you know from the beginning of the COVID

scandemic or whatever you want to call it it was quite obvious that the propaganda was being used to psychologically manipulate people

you know create a state of fear and panic so people would obey and essentially following Biderman's chart of coercion like a recipe

and so I was initially attempting to sort of wake people up to this fact by reaching out through

online local communities, Nextdoor, things like that.

And I eventually found that the censorship was so extreme, it was basically impossible to share any references.

You know, as soon as I'd post a comment, if I had a link in there to substantiating evidence, it would get disappeared within minutes.

And so I had somebody had posted something at Nextdoor that basically said, you know, these masks are not about hell.

They're about fear and obedience and obedience training, essentially.

And so I wrote a pretty lengthy comment in response to that.

And by the time I was getting ready to post it,

that post had been disappeared.

And so I read it to my husband, and he said, you know, you should submit that to Off Guardian.

And so I thought, okay, well, I need a place to house it and I'd been thinking about creating a sub stack anyway so just in an afternoon just threw together a sub stack published that piece submitted it to off guardian and kind of forgot about it for a couple of weeks

and then kit nightly got back to me and said that they would love to publish it and then that sort of kicked off my

publishing career in a way and then my readership snowballed from there.

What is the reaction to you?

Because you are so clear.

You're obviously extraordinarily bright and well-read.

You obviously know philosophy and

history really, really well.

It'd be hard to argue with you.

What is the reaction?

Well, from my readership,

you know, very enthusiastic, extremely appreciative.

One of the things probably noticed that I do a lot is essentially I provide substantiating evidence for practically every word.

Yeah, I know.

I have hyperlinks.

So I show my homework and that way if anybody questions it or wants to explore more on their own, I've created basically all these rabbit holes that people can go down.

And my readers are, you know, they love that.

Some people find it irritating, which I understand.

You know,

I have to tell you, you know, the letter to the mainstream straddler that I just read, it has a lot of things I had to cut out for time, but it has a lot of things like Wampeter that I had never heard before.

And I followed the hyperlink and I'm like, oh my gosh.

And so I was only annoyed because your one article took up about an hour of my time before I realized, wait a minute, I've got a life.

But it is, it's a great, great education.

What's your goal?

Well, when I started my Substack, my mission I articulated as

I want to awaken the sleeping before tyranny well, actually, I should say, unmask totalitarianism and awaken the sleeping before tyranny triumphs.

And that's still

part of my goal, part of my mission.

But what I've found is in my many attempts to awaken the sleeping, sleeping,

it is quite

an arduous task if they're not willing to wake up.

And so,

you know, I launched my letter series with a piece called Letter to a Covidian.

And, you know, I'm basically trying to confront the people with their hypocrisy, their discrimination, the fact that they allowed themselves to be manipulated into becoming hateful, fearful people.

And,

you know, it is difficult when people are sort of in a state of fear, they're panicked, and they're just clinging to these easy solutions and safety.

And Laura Doddsworth wrote a great book called A State of Fear that documents the psychological manipulation techniques that were used specifically in the UK.

But

anyway, so part of my mission has evolved in that I am reaching so so many fellow dissidents around the world.

And so

really it's been about nurturing this really rich community of brave, brilliant, funny, intelligent people.

And so it's been very gratifying in that sense as well.

May I ask you, because the global reach, when I have

spoken to people from different countries and I look at who's listening to my broadcast and I'll find them everywhere that you would just not expect.

And

it kind of gives me hope because I believe it's this is not an American problem.

I mean, I think we're a great source of it, but this is not an American problem.

This is, this is why there are demonstrations all over

the world because people know it's the elite against the common man.

Yes, yes, absolutely.

And I loved that you pointed that out earlier.

You mentioned

if your hope is in Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis, your hope is in the wrong place.

Right.

And one of my recurring themes is that it is we, the people, against they.

And

so that's one of the reasons I wrote, I have a Profiles and Courage series, and I did a piece on the Canadian trucker protests, who, of course, they were vilified in the media.

Big surprise.

But I spent, you know, a great deal of time just listening to the stories of the people who are there, just kind of playing live streams in the background.

And there was just this upswelling of joy and emotional connection with one another.

And I called it the winter of love.

And you see, when ordinary people get together in a spirit of peaceful compliance, that is where our power lies.

I was going to say to you a minute ago when you were talking about, you know, you're trying to get people out of the darkness and how they just are unwilling to go.

Fear and hatred are so strong, and they cannot be

disabled with more fear or hatred.

It has to be love.

Exactly.

Absolutely.

That's hard to convince people who keep feeling like a stick in the head or a stick in the eye.

And you kind of have some righteous indignation.

You're like, I'm not the bad guy here.

It's really hard to get them to act in love.

Yeah, yeah.

And I will say in arguing with Covidians,

it has been a test of my patience to

maintain my composure and be compassionate toward them.

And

I do a rolling an interview series called dissident dialogues and I call them rolling because as I work through the questions I publish them one at a time for my paid subscribers and then when it's completed I make it available to the public but right now I'm engaged in one with Meredith Miller who is a holistic coach and I have found her insights into the psyche of what is occurring absolutely fascinating.

I've been studying this, been writing about it for three years, and of course have been studying these topics for many more years

before this, but she articulates it in such a way that really helped me understand it from the perspective of these victims of this psychological manipulation.

So, for example, you know, she sees them as victims of narcissistic, emotional, psychological abuse, and she calls it a psychoneurospiritual state of captivity.

And so, if you think of them as being like abused partners

in an unhealthy relationship and they have Stockholm syndrome, they are defending their captors.

And so anyone who tries to get them, rescue them from that situation before they are ready, they're going to resist.

And so Meredith

basically said they have to be the ones who make, they have to have this moment, this epiphany, this moment of disruptive disruptive truth that helps them break through and recognize that they're being abused.

And that those of us who are outside trying to rescue them from that abuse

once they wake up, and

she said, my substack is extremely valuable for people when they are awakening because they're thirsty for that truth and that evidence to support their profound realizations.

Margaret, I would love to continue our conversation.

I'm going to become a paid subscriber of your Substack.

I think you're amazing, and I hope you don't mind.

I would love to share some of your ideas.

Absolutely.

You're a remarkable writer.

Thank you so much.

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So I was reading a story today.

about

Duck Dynasty star Missy Robertson.

And she was out with Kirk Cameron.

They were doing a book event at a library in Tennessee, Hendersonville, which doesn't sound like a huge metropolis.

But they were doing it at the public library, and they had real problems.

I mean, the thing almost didn't happen.

And as I'm reading this story, I thought, I got to call Missy and just ask her about it.

Missy Robertson is here with us.

Missy is the author of several books.

The latest is Because You're My Family, and she was out with Kirk Cameron.

His book is As You Grow.

Hi, Missy.

How are you?

Hi.

Hi, Glenn.

Thank you for having me.

We're great.

Yeah, it's so good to talk to you.

So,

you know, if you're watching

your podcast or your show on Blaze TV or on YouTube, you saw you bring this up and talk about it.

Can you retell the story?

Yes, I actually, when I came home from that trip, I told my husband, Jace,

who's one of the talent on Unashamed with Phil and Jace Robertson on Blaze TV, I said, can I be on your podcast tomorrow?

And I never asked for that.

They want me to be on there, and I'm either too busy or uninterested to be on there with my family, just being totally transparent.

So when I said, I need to talk about something on the podcast, it kind of shocked him.

And he just said yes immediately, which was really funny.

I said, you don't even know what I want to talk about.

But what had happened was literally the day before, and I was in Tennessee with my children.

Most of my children and both of my grandbabies live in the Nashville area.

And I was spending some time with them.

And Brave Books reached out to me and said, hey, you know, Kirk's going to be on his library tour in Hendersonville, which is not too far from where my children are.

Would you like to join him and read your book?

Absolutely.

What a wonderful idea.

Kind of wish I thought of that to do a library tour.

And sure,

what a great place to do it as well.

So that morning, I was not privy to a lot of the pushback that had been going on.

So I kind of walked in

a little deer in the headlights, I think, to use a southern term.

Right.

But

that morning was actually really cold and it had been warm and beautiful all week.

That morning was like 41 degrees raining and freezing.

And when I got there almost two hours before it opened, there was already a line formed with children, umbrellas, babies.

So I thought, okay,

I can't really believe that they're coming out for this little library reading, but you know, kudos to them.

Even my children backed out at the last minute because I thought they were little and like, mom, we're not going to come.

Like, it's totally fine.

I totally understand

so as the morning went on the lines got longer and Braves wanted to do some little promos about our books inside this beautiful I'm going to state this this beautiful multi-level

gorgeous library with tons of windows inside was like just really massive for a small little town I was not expecting this right And so the depth of the library behind us was just such a great, beautiful place to do some promos and was just kind of snuck up on when I realized that people started making noise in the closed library people were outside and and where's this noise coming from and I realized over the next few minutes that it was being done on purpose to distract from what we were trying to do is make these videos, just promoting, just promoting these books.

And these books, what's so silly is these books are about unconditional unconditional love of family, forgiveness, the fruits of the Spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, self-control.

These are kind of ironic when you think about some of the things that we're trying to push.

They say that we're trying to push on children and their families.

So wait a minute.

So let me ask you, why didn't you just ask the librarian to do what all librarians do and say, shh, who were these people that were...

Well,

they were the library staff.

But again, like I said before, I wasn't really sure what was going on.

And I, you know, being in reality TV,

we're not on sets anywhere.

We're in real everyday circumstances.

And so I thought, you know, maybe people, we're in their environment.

They forgot to lower their voices.

We're trying to do something.

So can we ask them nicely to, you know, be quiet?

Well, that happened like three times.

We even kind of laughed about it.

Like, shh, I think Kirk said, it's a library, shh, you know, like, ha ha.

And it just wasn't happening.

And we realized

there was a moment where I thought something is wrong when

one of the brave team asked the director who was coming kind of out into the open, and he said, hey, can you ask your staff to hold it down?

And he fired back, you're not even supposed to be here.

And Kirk shot back, yes, we are supposed to be here.

And these were very loud voices, and it kind of took took me off guard.

Like, something, are we not supposed to be in the library?

Like, I start thinking about like, are we, are we doing something we're not supposed to do?

I'm such a rule follower, and I don't want to upset anyone, you know, so and Brave just looked at the Brave team just looked at me and was like, we're fine, and yes, we're supposed to be here.

Did they, the lady behind the, this is what you said on unashamed, the lady at the front desk of the library said, we're just trying to look for things to deal with our stress.

Yes, that's

that was, I think, the actual moment where it confirmed in my mind.

And I'm really look, I'm like, am I,

I'm just sitting there thinking that everyone, we're welcome.

There's hundreds of people outside.

So this was really hard for me to wrap my brain around that someone was trying to thwart this process.

And so when she said that, after Riley, you know, Riley Gaines was also there reading for Bethany Hamilton's book.

Bethany was in Hawaii and couldn't come.

So Riley grew up in that area.

She said, I grew up five minutes from this library.

So this was her hometown.

So I started to think about what would happen if, you know, our little West Monroe library, West Monroe, Louisiana library, if some of the people were acting like that against someone that I had invited or was invited to my hometown library.

I would be embarrassed.

And I think, you know, she took it upon herself to kind of march over there and say, look, we're asking for 60 seconds of quiet.

Can you not turn off the music that you're blaring?

There's no one in here but us, and we're asking for 60 seconds.

And she said that she didn't think she had the authority to make that decision.

Oh, my gosh.

So,

I mean, nothing is probably going to happen to these people.

I don't know if you fired a, you know, or filed a complaint, but this actually started.

They have not.

Yeah,

this actually started uh with the brave book people because they wanted to turn uh

uh turn kirk down right

so i don't know all of the facts about that um so but i was learning as i was standing there we had a job to do

we had hundreds of people waiting for us and we were really excited about these books are really good

They are so sweet, the ones that we were reading, especially that day to all of these children and families.

and I was so I'm so proud of this book and for Kirk's book because they're biblical values without you know basically shoving verses down children's throats is what I think some of the quotes have been said about us but they're not that way at all they're beautifully written and illustrated and it's a partnership that the authors have with brave books and so and and like my book is about unconditional love and forgiveness of family and i loved when i talk about it to to speak about how the Father in heaven and Jesus who created us love us unconditionally.

That there is nothing in the world that we will ever do to make him stop loving us.

We will disappoint him.

We have things that we have to make up for.

There are consequences to our behavior, but he will never stop loving us.

And it mirrors with our own children and parenting.

It's beautiful.

Isn't it amazing, Missy, how

this is so, the world is so upside down

that that is considered evil indoctrination.

Yes, it's really sad.

And I don't get angry a lot because I feel like the older I get and the more my relationship with my creator grows, the more I love him and appreciate his sacrifice for me.

And the more I understand why he loves me so much, especially now that I have grandbabies.

I have two generations of children behind me that I love love unconditionally and would do anything for.

And I want everyone to experience that relationship like I have with him.

And so now, you know,

there have been consequences to that library and to their staff's behavior.

I got a text from Kirk last night, actually,

telling me that the library director was fired.

Wow.

And so I don't have a lot of confirmation of that, but my initial response was, whoa.

Yeah, that I would not expect.

Good or sweet.

I told Jace, my husband last night, I said, when I told him, he said, good.

And I thought, I mean, it is good, but we don't wish ill on anyone.

I know.

I know.

I feel like they do on us, but we really don't wish ill on anyone.

We have to stand up for what they are trying to do with our children and our grandchildren.

And now I've got two brand new grandbabies that my children are having to make decisions

on where to put them in school, if they're even going to go to a school.

It's a very difficult situation for them, and I do not envy them.

We're going to support them 100% in whatever decision they make, but they're really taking it seriously.

And I'm afraid that if we don't, we're going to lose a lot of our children.

Well, we already have, unfortunately, because we didn't speak up.

And, you know, you said, you know, the stronger I am with the Lord,

you've just experienced his love.

And I'll tell you, the stronger I become in the Lord, I find myself in those situations with greater compassion.

for the person.

It's really weird.

You don't get angry.

You just, you're like, what kind of suffering did you go through or are you going through?

What are you carrying around?

I'm leaving.

Yeah.

It's so sad.

I mean, well, I'll be honest, I was angry.

Oh, no, yeah.

I was angry at first.

You know, that's what led me to want to talk about this.

You know, I got home that day.

We have a place there close to my kids.

And my son, Cole, was there, and he's my peacemaking, laid-back child.

Let's don't ruffle any feathers.

And he was like, mom, you need to talk about this.

Yeah, there's a, you know, people think that if you're loving and you're following in the footsteps of Christ, that you're, you're just never going to, you know, say anything.

That's not fighting.

No, no, no, no.

It's standing firm in the truth with compassion to other people.

But that doesn't mean you don't say anything.

You cannot live your life quiet, especially in this world.

If you are not an enemy of evil, then you're really nothing.

You're nothing.

You know, and Riley, Riley was amazing, what she did.

And I was taken so off guard for a second.

She was like, this is not happening.

And walked over there and was not unkind at all, but very direct.

And we have all of that on video.

Brave was steadily rolling.

I started videoing with my own phone because I thought, is this really, this is happening?

This is what I've been seeing on the news happening from coast to coast, but not here in the middle, the flyover states.

This is not happening in our little hometowns, but it is.

Yeah,

people don't have any idea.

It is in all of our communities.

Missy, thank you so much.

And say hi to everybody for me.

And we so appreciate Unashamed

and all of your work.

So thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

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