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Oh, I've got some things to share with you.

First of all, Janet Yellen was in Kyiv.

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And we're going to be with Ukraine for as long as it takes.

Well, that's kind of a problem for people like Putin.

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Dmitry Medvedev.

You remember him, right?

He's the former Russian president, then became the prime minister.

And Medvedev came out yesterday and said, hey, there's a real nuclear threat if the U.S.

continues to supply arms to Ukraine.

He wrote an op-ed piece in the state-run newspaper.

second time now in three weeks,

he has, and Vladimir Putin has invoked the nuclear option in an effort to deter the U.S.-led NATO alliance from arming Ukraine.

Medvedev, who was president between 2008 and 2012, currently serves as the deputy chairman of the powerful Security Council of Russia, dangled the prospects of talks while demanding shipments of arms to Ukraine be halted immediately.

Now, he's echoing the words that were uttered Sunday by Putin.

He wrote, Any existential threat to Russia would not be decided on the front in Ukraine, but would spiral into an existential threat to all of human civilization.

We do not need a world without Russia.

Now, most people who are not paying paying attention, and I mean politicians, do not know what that phrase means.

We do not need a world without Russia.

Let me tell you what Putin said over the weekend.

The US and its NATO allies want to inflict a strategic defeat on us.

The aim is to make our people suffer.

How can we ignore their nuclear capabilities in these conditions?

They've tried to reshape the world exclusively on their terms.

We have no choice but to react.

If Washington gets its way, Russia will be divided into Moscow, the Urals, and other disparate regions.

It would be a world without Russia.

Okay?

A world without Russia.

We don't need a world without Russia.

This is a very important phrase.

Now,

Medvedev went on to say, the threat against Russia is an existential threat to all civilization as we don't need a world without Russia.

Our enemies are doing just that, not wanting to understand that their goals obviously lead to a total fiasco because everyone loses, a collapse, an apocalypse, when the former life will have to be forgotten for centuries until the rubble ceases to emit radiation.

Okay, that's pretty strong.

But you don't know the half of it.

I want to take you to what that phrase means.

And then I'm going to pick it up with the rest of what Medvedev said.

But to understand this, You have to first understand the origin of that phrase.

I have for a long time read everything I can on Dugan, Alexander Dugan.

Really bad guy.

Been telling you that for a long time.

He's a, quote, traditionalist,

but that's a capital T traditionalist.

This is something that he is using to further his goals.

And I think you will understand his goals.

There's an award-winning journalist in Moscow that has

been speaking out against Dugan.

And I want to just read something that has been translated into English that was written about him on Dugan.

And he's warning.

People are dismissing him as a petty fraudster interested in nothing but money.

The consensus is also that Dugan is a windbag who excites only Western political scientists, a few half-witted and certain bohemians who've snorted their brains out.

But I warn we shouldn't underestimate his influence, no matter how crazy we find his ideas, especially because those ideas tend to become reality.

I remember accidentally attending a lecture by Dugan on angelic entities in the late 90s.

It was an unbearable exercise in transcendental sophistry, dealing mainly with the image of Lucifer, the fallen angel.

There were about 20 people of indeterminate age and gender in the auditorium, and I thought at the time that perhaps they too were fallen angelic entities who have come to listen to a lecture about themselves.

Then in the he says mid-naughties, meaning you know in the zeros, I ran into Dugan at a gig at the Akira Club.

He dearly loved English apocalyptic folk music for its commitment to Nazi Satanism.

His daughter Daria apparently did as well.

Now remember, Daria is his daughter that was just killed in a car bombing that apparently was meant for him.

I recently saw a post about how she did the Nazi salute at a Death in June gig in Moscow.

You know, I stay away from those gigs.

If it's death in June, I did.

Anyway,

it was also around that time that I visited the summer camp of Dugin's Eurasian Youth Union.

Now, that sounds good.

A building at a dilapidated holiday resort near Zevingrad

that had been rented for this purpose.

There were not many young people in attendance, about 30 or 40.

Many were wearing Russian peasant shirts because Dugin

had realized that his Nazi Satanist strategy had not a great future in modern Russia.

So he had declared himself an old believer.

An old believer is, I mean, if the FBI thinks the people who think that, you know, in 1962, Vatican II was too radical,

an old believer is an Eastern Orthodox Christian who thinks that the

reforms of 1652 and 1666

were too modern.

Anyway, before meals at this camp, a round-faced bearded man would proclaim in his bass voice, Angels at the table, and they would present and cross themselves.

At night, the young people lined up with lighted torches on the banks of the Moscow River to take the oath of Eurasian.

Back then, Dugan adored the black magic ceremonies and rituals.

The wording of the oath was pompous and not bereft of poetry.

I recall that the word will

was intoned more often than curses against Atlanticists and Atlanticist

liberals.

That would be us, the people of the sea, as he calls them, or Atlanticist people of the North-Atlantic Treaty.

Will in mind, will in mind, the puny lads and lasses repeated in unison after Dugan.

It would have smacked of triumph of the will were it not for the outward appearance of the young Eurasians, which was far from Aryan perfection.

At the time, I couldn't have imagined, of course, that a goofy postmodern cult would someday become the ideological mainstream, and that by 2022, the entire country would be caught up in this sect.

In 2011, the party youth, under the leadership of Dugan, staged the occult mystery play,

Finis Mundi, the end of the world,

at the ESM summer camp.

Daria, that's his daughter, by the way, played the role of the sacrificial victim who voluntarily

self-emmulates, sets herself on fire in order to save Russia.

As the girl is burning, a man's voice proclaims, cross yourself with fire,

burn up in the fire, and save your diamond from the black furnace.

Now, the director of this play said,

we have to bring the end of the world closer.

There is only one means of curing the world's disease, and that is burning the world, which I illustrated in the play's final scene, in which the burning of the universe takes place.

In the finale, Dugan came on stage and said, We have lived three days of our life toward death.

I do not think the scenes you have staged need to be deciphered.

The world's end is the task that faces you in the future.

The writer writes, it is obvious that Dugan is obsessed with the idea of bringing the world to a purgatory apocalypse after which the great Eurasian Empire, the end of the world,

will be born.

When the conservative turn dawned, Dugin moved away from occult postmodernism, focused instead of the topic of tradition, for which there was a sudden demand.

The Kremlin had been fanatically searching for new ideologies with which to oppose the official enemy, liberalism.

Dugin finally turned from a bohemian guru into a sought-after ideologue of the regime.

There is one convincing bit of evidence that speaks to this being the case.

In 2014, Dugin ended his programmatic article about ideology of the new Russia as follows.

Russia will either be Russian, that is, Eurasian, that is the core of the great Russian world, or it will disappear.

But then it would be better that everything disappear.

There is simply no reason to live in a world without Russia.

Vladimir Putin said in an interview just recently with TV talk show host Yippity Yip Yap on the topic of the nuclear threat, why do we need such a world if there is no Russia there?

Dugan seemingly managed to captivate the dictator with his most terrible idea.

Listen to this phrase, the hastening of the world's end.

Now, who else is hastening the world's end?

We've heard that before.

Heard it from the Twelvers in Iran, the extremist, I guess, Islamic-related cult

in Iran pushing for the end of the world to hasten the apocalypse.

He says, in this context, Daria's death appears especially ominous.

Many people were struck by the young woman's funeral.

They were struck by the behavior of a father who had lost his daughter but delivered propaganda

tirades in an unnaturally trembling voice and appealed to Russians to fight to the bitter end.

Moreover, I had the strange feeling that Dugan was directing this

spectacle.

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but this looks as if it came from the playbook of the stager of the occult mystery plays and black masses,

and not that of a crook from the state Duma.

If we assume just for a second that this might be true, it really gets creepy.

He said, quote, we will go to heaven and they will just drop dead.

Putin, when asked to explain what the phrase means, we don't need a world without Russia,

he

couched it in the dialect of the back streets.

It is the language of the world's end.

It sometimes seems to me that they have already made the final decision.

They have not only canceled Ukraine, but I believe they have canceled the world.

Again,

the phrase is really

important.

There is no reason to live in a world without Russia.

Dugin is encouraging the hastening of a new world order.

He does not believe Armageddon brings heaven to earth in the way Christians normally do.

He believes Armageddon will renew the earth and Russia will lead the world.

There just has to be some Russian leadership left.

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now I'm going to give you the rest of Medvedev's

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At the the start of the month, Medvedev said any attempt to take Crimea would result in, quote, the flaming of all of Ukraine and with the forces at Russia's disposal, including nuclear weapons, in accordance with our doctrinal documents, including the fundamentals of nuclear deterrence.

All Ukraine that will remain under the rule of Kyiv will burn.

Now, he is quoting clause 19 of the Russian fundamentals.

Russia may use nuclear weapons, and I'm quoting in the event of aggression against Russia with the use of conventional weapons when the very existence of the state is threatened.

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So the U.S.

Treasury Secretary, Janet Yellen,

it's got so much time on her hand.

She decided to make a surprise visit to Ukraine,

where she announced a $9.9 billion package of civilian aid to Ukraine.

And it's going to be great.

She says our funds help pay for emergency personnel, from firefighters who answer the call when missiles strike, medical professionals who treat the sick and wounded,

and also

schools.

We're going to make sure that the school teachers get a raise, which is weird because wasn't the head of the teachers union in Ukraine about two months ago?

And we were all like, what is she doing over there?

Why is the teachers union of America over in Ukraine?

I wonder if they got a new union.

And they're demanding a pay raise right now.

I'll tell you that.

It's in there.

They're paying pensions over there now.

Yeah.

Maybe it is tied in.

Yeah, yeah.

So we got that going for us, another $9.9 billion

to pay for their schools and everything else.

And I like this quote.

As you have said, our support is not charity.

This is what Yellen said to Zelensky.

It's an investment in global security and democracy.

No, it's really not.

It's really not, but I bet it is an investment.

I just wonder what we get really in return.

Now, one of the people, one of the architects of all of this is Victoria Newland.

If you don't know who she is, you should go back and watch our special on Ukraine.

She was the woman who really designed, I mean, we have pictures of her handing out cookies at the revolution against Russia in 2014.

She was great.

She was great.

She was our Under Secretary of State for Eurasia and the Ukraine.

And

she was wonderful.

She spent a lot of time there training people how to be a rebel and rise up in the streets.

And so we paid for that, your tax dollars, but she was also very, very close.

She was the liaison

between President Obama, Vice President Biden, and George Soros, because you wouldn't want to have direct connections there.

So she was meeting with George Soros like once a week and helping get the funding that he needed to set up his little anti-corruption thing in Ukraine.

Now she's back, except this time she's got a little bigger role.

She's now the,

hang on, the undersecretary

or the assistant secretary of state.

She's like, I think she's like number two in command.

I don't have it here.

Where did it go?

Anyway,

she's a bigwig now and she's just weighed in uh and she said just uh yesterday washington supports ukrainian attacks on military targets on the peninsula that would be crimea and called for it to be demilitarized crimea was illegally annexed by russia from ukraine in 2014.

Okay, all that's true, except here's how the Kremlin responded.

After the U.S.

crossed every imaginable and unimaginable red line, today the U.S.

State Department actually announced that it was going to war with Russia.

I assume this is how we should interpret Newland's statement.

There's no need for halftones.

The U.S.

is an enemy of Russia, a military adversary.

So, that, I mean, that's really

great.

Really, seriously.

Oh, by the way, China will target the U.S.

homeland in a war if we go to war with Taiwan or to protect Taiwan.

They said it would be a major war and we, China, we will attack the American homeland if a war erupts over Taiwan or anywhere else in the Indo-Pacific.

They said that they would do cyber attacks on our power grid or on our pipelines.

We will erode the will of the United States public and erode support for a conflict.

So we got that

going for us.

But by the way, we are not antagonizing China while we are antagonizing Russia.

We're not doing that.

Yesterday,

we got up onto our horse.

I think it was the really, really high horse that we were on.

And we said, Beijing, you need to come clean about, you know, the origin of COVID.

Okay.

You need to tell us.

And China must be thinking, really?

Should we?

Because you were funding it.

You were doing it with us?

You want to come out?

You want us to come clean?

Because we will.

Well,

we're now up on our high horse saying, boy, oh boy, those darn Chinese and that laboratory leak.

You better come clean.

China has responded now and said

you should probably quiet down.

The origin tracings is about science and should never be politicized.

China has always supported and participated in global science-based origins tracing.

Yes, they should and have.

And China recommends that the Americans stop rehashing the lab leak narrative and stop smearing China.

Okay, this is.

I'm excited to see how this all works out.

Oh, by the way, remember Stu mentioned earlier the 12th Imam.

I'm sorry if you haven't listened to this show in a long time.

There's a lot we need to catch you up on.

But if you have, you know who the 12th Imam is.

You know what that belief is and where it comes from.

It's from Iran.

Iran looks like they may train Iraq's armed forces.

Which would be even better,

you know, for Israel, because they'll have a nuclear weapon and then they will be training the Iraq armed forces as well, which would never

happen.

By the way, I just,

I just want to point out, who was it that said

at some point

the radicals, the communists, the socialists, the anarchists, the Islamists will all see an opportunity and they'll all work together to destroy the Western world and America.

It's almost like that's happening, wouldn't you say still?

It does have

echoes of that.

I mean, just we have a really impressive way of bringing people together.

You know,

you wouldn't think those groups, those disparate groups, would be working together.

But I'll say this.

There was a time, people might remember it, when Iran and Iraq were at war.

They hated each other.

Yeah.

And now they're training each other's military.

They will never get together.

They'll never get together.

We have

magical touch with this stuff.

Yeah.

And it's just great to see.

So bring its friendship.

All right.

Would you talk me down on this Dugan stuff?

Can you talk me down on that?

I talk you down from the Dugan stuff.

I think...

Well,

especially the phrase, a world without Russia.

There's no need to live in a world without Russia.

Putin is saying it.

Medvedev is saying it.

It comes from Dugan.

And that is,

in his language, there's no reason to

live in a world without Russia.

So we will

just annihilate everybody.

We go down, we have to annihilate everyone.

The only thing that you can say, I think, on this is Russia does make a lot of grandiose statements about all the things they're going to do, and often they don't do them.

Sometimes they invade Ukraine.

So it's not a guaranteed rule that what they say they don't do, but they do make a lot of, you know, a lot of statements that are grandiose about defending Russia and attacking their enemies.

And obviously

they haven't fired the nukes yet.

But

I can come back to this, where you have a, if you think of every movie you've ever seen, I'd pick the greatest general in the greatest movie, I don't know, whoever you want it to be, whatever movie you remember, the person who absolutely could,

with a scalpel, go through a situation like this with just incredible precision and navigate incredibly difficult waters like no one else.

If you had that person in charge of this process, right?

You might,

might have some confidence that that's going to work out well right you might say okay well this is incredibly difficult but we've got a surgeon this guy knows exactly how to to do to do this

we do not have those people in charge right now

if we if we had regan in his prime even then this would be incredibly risky remember what reagan was doing was trying to de-escalate

We are doing the opposite and hoping at the end it doesn't wind up literally blowing blowing up in our faces.

Except this isn't peace through strength.

Right.

No, it's a totally different thing.

It's a totally different thing.

We are getting weaker and weaker and weaker, and everyone on earth knows it.

Did you know that Iran just parked

some of their battlecruisers in Brazil?

We said to Brazil, do not allow them to dock.

Brazil was like, yeah.

We're going to let them dock.

Do you think that would have happened just even five years ago?

Yeah, and I think like when someone is starting, someone who's usually strong begins to feel weak, often what that person does or that, like it happens in the animal world all the time, the animal puffs their chest out.

It has some sort of, you know, the feathers

flutter out.

When they feel threatened, that's what they do.

And I feel like that's a lot of what we're doing right now.

You know, we are.

We see, we do see Russia as a threat.

I think it's a legitimate threat.

You know, I think because the left and the media has done all this Russia, Russia, Russia stuff over the past few years, we've forgotten that Russia is actually really bad and they do a lot of things that harm the world.

And they are doing that in Ukraine right now.

I'm interested to see Jerry Boykin's, the general's

arguments, because my guess is while he can legit, he's been in this fight for a long time.

He's going to see the threat from Russia.

I doubt, though, he has, A, any confidence in this administration to navigate these waters successfully, or B, actually supports the exact steps they're taking.

It's one thing to say, hey, you know, we can do some stuff to help Ukraine push them back, wear down their military, take their focus off of something else they could be doing, defend a country that should have borders, just like we have borders,

in theory.

There's an argument for that.

There's not an argument for what we're doing, which is coming out and telling the Russians, hey, we're basically sending weapons and training.

You know, we are using our military personnel to help the targeting in Ukraine.

We're taking our material and our military personnel and helping Ukrainian military find the precise target where a missile should strike to not only blow up Russian military

depots and such, but also

troops and ships and ships and airplanes.

And it's like, that is much more than, hey,

we're Amazon.

We just deliver weapons.

That's different.

Very different.

We've become the geek squad.

We're setting up all the material.

And they know it.

Listen, I asked my producers to get Jerry Boykin because I knew if he was for the war, he had the best chance of convincing me, because I respect him so much.

He has the best chance of convincing me that it is right because I'll listen to his argument and

he knows it inside and out.

And he's not a warmonger.

So I asked him to be on.

Andy Biggs is on because he is introducing the legislation to stop all this.

And I think he'd have the best case, you know, on my side.

But I'm going to start out with my pros and cons, why I think we shouldn't go to war, the pros and the cons.

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In 26 states across the country, bills now are being introduced, and they're all saying the same thing.

This has nothing to do

with a one-world currency.

It has nothing to do with a central bank.

We're just up, we're just look, we're just defining money.

So it includes digital currencies, you know,

like Bitcoin and a central bank digital currency.

And that's all that's happening here.

Why are you freaking out?

Oh, the conspiracy theories.

Okay.

What's going on?

What is happening?

Are they just laying the pathway now for the introduction of the central bank digital currency?

I believe the answer is yes.

Is that a good idea?

I believe the answer is no.

But this all has to do with the Uniform Commercial Code, the UCC.

It's a comprehensive set of laws governing all commercial transactions in the United States.

Now, it's not federal law, but it was uniformly adopted, state law, and the uniformity of law is essential in this area for interstate transactions of businesses.

And because the UCC has been universally adopted, businesses can enter into contracts with confidence that the terms will be enforced in the same way by courts in every place in America.

Okay?

It's been around for a long time.

It's been updated so many times.

And we just want to update what, you know, the definition of money is.

That kind of sounds like a big update.

We're going to talk to somebody who's fighting this in their state.

And perhaps you should as well.

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All right, we have South Dakota State Representative Tina Malally on with us.

Hello, Tina.

How are you?

Hi, Glenn.

How are you?

It's nice to speak to you again.

Well, you know, you alerted us a few, what, about a week or two ago on this, and we have really looked into it.

And

we can't get a lot of answers, you know, right from the horse's mouth, but

another orifice of the horse has told us this is no big deal.

So can you go through what you're fighting and what we are seeing all across the country that's just kind of slipping by everybody?

Sure, Glenn, I really appreciate it.

You know,

first off, let me say I'm no cryptocurrency expert.

Okay.

But when my colleagues and I came across what otherwise would have been a benign bill having to do with universal codes, We usually get them every two years, but we found an area in this bill that was redefining money.

This redefinition will change how we deal with digital currency.

It would make it so Bitcoin and Ether would not be counted as money, but only the digital currency issued by the federal government could be considered money.

Now that's a concern.

Now they've told us that, no, this is to help Bitcoin.

This is because everybody's using Bitcoin and things like that.

And so this will make Bitcoin, you know, acceptable officially.

That's not true?

No, because it's only digital currency that is issued by the federal government.

And as we know, Bitcoin and Ether are not.

Right.

Right, right.

Okay, so they're

so right now, can't we use Bitcoin as money, you know, for all business?

I mean, if business is taking it, then we can use it as money.

Why do we need this definition changed?

Well, it's, as you know, they want to control it.

Here's what's at stake, Glenn.

When the federal government controls digital currency, not only can they see what you're buying, but they can prevent you from buying anything at all.

So my South Dakota Freedom Caucus colleagues and I all voted against it, this bill, but we didn't get the message out to the rest of the legislators in time.

So we're trying today

to make sure that this bill fails in the Senate committee.

Okay, so what,

tell me why it's got to stop and then tell me what people can do to help.

Well,

here's the reason why it's got to stop.

Biden, he passed an executive order.

Listen to director, the IMF director, Bo Lee.

And let's not forget people like Jerome Powell, who's a Federal Reserve Chair.

These are entities that are trying to redefine it because they know if they do, they will control the money and ultimately control everyone else.

What can people do?

You're in South Dakota, right?

Where's your...

Where we are.

Yeah,

where's your governor on this?

Well, I haven't heard from her, you know, but she has been

on the side of Americans for a long time

and the constitutionality of what's going on.

You know, here's how you can help, Glenn.

The South Dakota Freedom Caucus has already started applying pressure by alerting the grassroots to contact their senators and representatives here in South Dakota.

And just being with you today is very helpful, getting the national attention to what's happening.

But because this is a universal code, it works best when all 50 states adopt it.

So if we here in South Dakota fail to stop it, maybe your listeners have family or friends that live in other states that are considering similar language to this legislation.

Oh, I'm sure it is.

It's everywhere.

It's everywhere right now.

Yes, and we believe that they're going to try and take over because without all 50 states adhering to it because the universal code basically is it's not a federal law it is um a universal code that states adopt so that they can conduct business correct

so the um uh the ucc

tells us that um this amendment

you know, changes the definition of money, but it doesn't encourage the adoption of digital currency by the U.S.

or any other government.

That's true.

It's not saying, hey, and we really hope that they do it.

It's just laying down the road and the pathway.

So when they do

change, if they do, to digital currency, it's all done.

Correct?

Correct.

Okay.

All right.

Where do people call if they want to affect?

Just do they just call the legislature or the Senate there in South Dakota?

Well, there is a if they go to South Dakota Freedom Caucus.com to our website, we have a list there and a petition that they can sign, but we have a list of the senators that are sitting on the committee that will be heard in about 45 minutes.

They can call those senators, email them, whatever, but you can also get a hold of the senators on the Senate side, all of them, because if it passes out of committee, it must come to the Senate floor to to be heard and voted on there

and we're putting the pressure on and they're feeling it good I well I have heard that the

the people on the other side have become very very vocal and and all of a sudden very cash flush on sending people to

to stop people like you so you must be

absolutely true yeah you must be on to something Tina thank you so much for alerting us to this.

And I highly encourage you to go to, is it South Dakota Freedom Caucus?

Yes, sdfreedomcaucus.com.

Okay, sdfreedomcaucus.com and find out how you can help.

All right, Tina.

Thank you so much.

Appreciate it.

Thank you for your time, Glenn.

You bet.

Okay, now, this is happening in state after state after state as well.

Some of them are already passing them.

26 states, the bills are being introduced or have been to change the definition of money.

Again, I want you to understand, this is not to tell the Fed to do it.

And the Fed says, no, we're not involved in this at all.

This is independent.

And it's just in case the Fed decides to have a universal currency.

Well, then they can do it, and all businesses will need to accept it, and all states will need to accept it.

So, this is just the paving of the roadway to make sure when the cars start coming off the line, there's no traffic jams.

So, you want to

tell your state and ask your state legislators,

are you making changes to the Universal Commercial Code, the UCC?

Are you changing the definition of money

according to the UCC?

That's the uniform commercial code.

Like she said, if 25 states say no,

well, the Fed will have a difficult time rolling this out.

And anything we can do to stop

the Federal Reserve from having a digital currency where they can track, manipulate, take away, and control your spending

is a godsend.

This is a very dangerous weapon.

Probably the most dangerous weapon we could give the United States government or any government.

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Now, this UCC thing, you don't have to take my word for what this means.

They are denying this.

You will be called a conspiracy theorist, but

I mean,

isn't everything that turns out to be truth lately being called a conspiracy theory?

The amendments clarify, this is from the UCC.

The amendments clarify rules for money in electronic form.

Some governments and central banks are experimenting with digital currency.

The amendment creates a new separate asset category called electronic money and contain clearer rules for transactions involving electronic money that exist under current law, which generally contemplates that money exists only in tangible forms, such as bill or coins.

The amendments updated UCC terminology for the digital age.

Various UCC provisions are amended to replace obsolete terms that applied only to transactions on paper.

For example, the term sign is redefined as electronic signatures, the term record substituted for writing

to encompass electronic documents, blah, blah, blah.

Some of this stuff is really good,

except the fact that this is for a central bank digital currency.

And the Biden administration has been wargaming this since they got into office.

And I think they've been wargaming this outside of the administration long before they got into

office.

So if you are living in a red or a purple state, some of them have already made the changes, including Iowa, Indiana, Nebraska, and New Hampshire.

But 20 or as many as 26 right now are considering or have already considered legislation that would make these new changes.

Please get in touch with your state house, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Maine, Missouri, Tennessee, Washington, West Virginia, South Dakota.

Some lawmakers are trying to fight back against this, especially we saw with South Dakota, but they absolutely need your help.

You want to stop a digital dollar from being a reality and us being slaves to the Federal Reserve?

This is a way to do it.

What about the person who says, look,

I don't want a digital currency.

and if they come up with one a centralized bank digital currency i just won't use it i mean i you know that they can come up with it all they want but i'm not going to use it

uh-huh good luck with that good luck with that if you think that the federal reserve is going to allow competition for the official money borrow you know the money uh but won't they still have cash they can use credit cards they can use all the things that they're using now.

Yeah, but where's your credit card?

Your credit card will be linked to your bank account.

Your bank account, according to the white papers done for the Treasury Department,

your bank account for your salary and everything else is going to be with the Federal Reserve.

So if you've got a credit card, you'll have a Federal Reserve card and it will just take money out of your digital account at the Federal Reserve.

All of it's going to be linked.

All of it will be a digital currency.

And you go ahead, try to give cash at some places now.

I've been in places now where they're like, we don't take cash.

I was at a restaurant this weekend.

Yeah.

And

cool little restaurants, got a bunch of stuff to do there, a lot of fun.

And they just have a big sign as you walk in, we are cashless.

Right.

So

that's the way the world will be.

And it will take a digital currency from a central bank to be able to transact.

And once they have that, they have complete control of you.

And again, I'm playing devil's advocate here.

I'm with you on this completely, but I think there's

a slow play here where they're not going to implement it with the tools that say we can turn off gun purchases, for example.

Of course.

That's not how it's going to start.

But we're seeing it with credit cards now.

Lots of credit card processors are not

allowing your purchases to be able to get to the bank.

Let's cut the middleman out so we can have all of them.

They're already incredibly dependent on just credit cards.

So imagine instead of a separate company, you're dealing with the government and the government can find categories it doesn't like and turn them off or restrict how much.

I mean, we see this even now with you try to transfer a certain amount of money to someone for something.

If it hits a certain limit, you're going to have all sorts of problems with it.

Even at normal banks, imagine when the government hits a moment of crisis.

What if they don't want you traveling?

Or imagine COVID with the digital dollar in place.

What if they didn't want you traveling?

What if they didn't want you buying gas

for your vehicle or something?

Look at it this way.

Look at it this way.

What is Apple doing right now?

The new software on Apple been released for the phone?

Yeah.

And did you know that it includes in the software, it makes it harder to charge your phone unless it's connected to clean energy?

Yeah.

I was thinking about doing like an explainer video on this and how to turn it off because you can, at this point, still turn it off.

Correct.

But that is exactly what it does.

It will slow your charging, slow the charging of your phone so that it can understand later on and

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For example, one of the ways that they do it is they do it overnight because correct power is there's more power available to the grid.

So they're going to do it overnight.

But if you need your phone charged, you need your freaking phone charged, right?

Like,

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Now, imagine when that's not that.

That's not the free market.

Imagine that that's the government.

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Whatever it is.

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So, something disturbing happened yesterday, and it is not what we learned from the Department of Energy.

Now, the Department of Energy, which is where the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory is, and the Department of Sciences dating back to World War II, that's why they're involved in this.

And they confirmed yesterday the Wuhan lab leak theory was, in fact, not a theory, but with some degree of confidence, probably a fact.

The Wuhan virus, the one that killed millions of Americans and tens of millions worldwide, most likely came from a lab in China per the DOD.

That's the most likely source.

Now I say,

duh.

We've known this.

But here's what was disturbing

and still continues right now to be disturbing.

Nobody in the media is taking note, really.

Nobody in the media has come out and said, wow, we were really wrong

and what have we done?

But more importantly, no one in the media

is saying, wait a minute,

what about Fauci?

and all of the stuff Fauci was doing in the Wuhan lab that he he was trying to cover up and say it wasn't gain of function.

We know our money was there.

You can't demonize China without also demonizing us, but we're doing it.

The other thing that's really disturbing is

the acceptance by the American people.

When,

when will this

break?

When will we stop having what were previously conspiracy theories later confirmed?

When will we stop just moving on as if it's okay?

Well, see, I told you that wasn't a conspiracy.

I'll write again.

It's as if those reporters and journalists and commentators that were derided and vilified at the time for being nuts, no, not nuts, a danger to our quote, democracy,

that just, you know,

they don't exist.

They, you know, those people that have been destroyed,

they didn't get it right.

I mean, it's just, we're just learning some new facts here.

I want you to think back a little.

Okay.

I want you to think back a little.

And this is so important.

George Washington said that

government is like fire.

If you are in control of it, it does great things.

But if it is in control of you, it will burn down everything.

Right now, our government is in control of you, not the other way around.

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Did the government not experiment with LSD on black and Hispanic Florida prisoners and homeless in the 1960s?

Did the U.S.

not smuggle hundreds of Nazis into the U.S.

after Germany fell?

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government not slaughter thousands upon thousands of cattle and pigs to prop up milk, beef, and pork prices during the Great Depression?

Did the government mix deadly poisons into whiskey to help catch or prevent drinking in the Prohibition era?

Did you even know that one?

The answer to all of these is yes, all of these things happen.

And we, in a way, hid it from ourselves.

Dismissed as a conspiracy theory.

They all happened.

And it was a complicit press eager for access to government sources for other articles that they were happy to do the bidding on.

The Freedom of Information Act is probably one of the most important things that we have ever enacted in the history of our country.

It was passed in 1967.

Why?

Because of the JFK assassination.

We wanted access to the truth.

We knew something wasn't right.

But we didn't get access to it.

We still don't have access to it.

And it was this year that we found out the CIA

employed Lee Harvey Oswald.

They knew who he was.

They were using him as an asset.

We still don't know to what extent they won't open those doors.

So the government, its relationship with you and me, it's the same as it always has been.

But we have got to fight for it.

And the media,

shame on you.

I'm telling you right now what we do and do not do every day

will be recorded

it is going to be recorded in the royal courts of life

you do not want to be on the side of oppression and death

So for the past two years, if you even suggested that COVID-19 came from a Chinese lab, you were branded a conspiracy theorist.

You were laughed at.

You were dismissed.

You were demonetized, demonized.

And now the U.S.

National Lab of the DOD, same place that developed the atomic bomb and still manages our nuclear arsenal, is out with a report saying, yeah, it's probably the most likely scenario.

So what are we doing?

Are we waiting for an apology letter that will never come?

Chris Martinson's waiting for us.

Ben Shapiro, Daniel Horowitz, Russell Brand, Dr.

John Campbell, Steve Dace,

hundreds of people that sounded the alarm and were dismissed as crackpots or dangerous.

I don't want you to misunderstand.

We are humans.

All of us are humans.

And we will get it wrong from time to time.

And if we are in this business, we live on the edge.

But we live on the edge on purpose.

We are here to find the truth as people are kicking dirt over their tracks.

Given the abundance of secrecy and lying that we get from our own government and the accommodating press, it means we have to live on this edge.

We have to operate on this thin line of truth versus theory every day.

But we do it for ourselves, we do it for our families, and we do it for yours as well.

If we don't have access to the truth, you don't have access to freedom.

Now, the people in power, the Davos World Economic Forum crowd, they don't believe that.

They believe society is better off when the general public is duped, stupefied by award shows, comedy films, video games, sensational news stories, anything that will keep the masses eating cake.

But I believe Thomas Jefferson was right.

Count on the American people, not the government.

Count on the people.

We are all individuals and unique entities.

God gave you and me and everyone else a brain, a heart, a spirit, and those things are ours and nobody else's.

They are coming into our brains.

They are coming into our hearts.

They are coming into our souls with technology soon.

There is a physical and obvious reality.

There is a truth that is self-evident.

Does anybody finally get that phrase?

We hold these truths to be self-evident.

We're not a committee.

We're individuals who sometimes choose to cooperate and sometimes choose to compete.

That's reality.

Is it too messy for you?

Well, go back to the Soviet Union.

Go to China.

They don't have that messiness.

But it's true and obvious.

And it means, in the course of our discourse, our interaction, and resulting governance, must recognize and accept the reality.

We call that a democratic republic governed by a constitution.

The government holds no authority over the truth.

Let me say it again.

The government holds no authority over the truth.

That's your job.

You're responsible.

I'm responsible.

And if we don't look for the truth,

It's our fault.

Why we don't have a warrant or a church commission on what has happened with COVID-19 alone

is beyond me.

Are we sheep or are we Americans?

It should be demanded.

We need to hear from Fauci and Bricks and the head of Pfizer and Moderna and Johnson and Johnson.

We need to know what happened to us.

You know, not every conspiracy theory turns out to be true some are just what they say theories

but enough of them have become fact that I don't think we should dismiss them anymore and when they do become fact we should hold the people who claimed they were just theories responsible And if they say, look, it was just my opinion, fine.

But if you were dismissing and destroying and demonetizing and part of an effort to shut those people up because they're dangerous, then you should answer for your actions.

COVID-19

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All I want is the truth.

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I don't even, I don't want to be right.

Gosh.

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I don't want to be right.

I just want to know what the truth is.

Because once we know the truth, then we can say, let's never let that happen again.

The worst thing about this is

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Oh, yeah, another conspiracy theory turns out to be true.

I told you so.

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Interesting exchange on this COVID stuff from the mainstream media.

Let me give you a back and forth here.

So, Nate Silver, who is on the left, I think he's sensible on the left, but he's on the left.

And he cites the Department of Energy's determination that it was most likely a lab leak.

And he says, the behavior of a certain cadre of scientists who used every trick in the book to suppress discussion of this issue is something I will never forget.

A huge disservice to science and public health.

They should be profoundly embarrassed.

And I think that's a pretty rational take in how the media probably should react.

Mehdi Hassan, I think, is from NBC.

Yeah.

He writes back, and it's an amazing reply.

He says, the simple reason why so many people weren't keen to discuss the lab leak theory is because it was originally conflated by the right with Chinese bioweapon conspiracies and continues to be conflated on the right with anti-Fauci conspiracies.

Blame the conspiracy theorists.

Wait, what conspiracies?

Those are bioweapons labs.

That's what the Chinese do.

Fauci was doing a

gain of function experiment with them.

Yeah, I think the bioweapon thing,

again, these are generalities and they're not specific theories, but the bioweapon thing is more of a, I think, was

released as a release.

Like they try to.

I don't think people believe that.

I don't think anybody on the right really buys that.

I think everyone believes that it was

an intentional experiment.

Gone awry.

Gone awry.

Yes.

Which is different than

an intentional release of a weapon.

But if you take that look, then anyone you disagree with, anyone who you deem a bad guy, you won't listen to.

That's what Nate Silver wrote back.

He said,

this is so refreshingly honest.

The bad people, capital letters, like those bad people, the Trump supporters, the bad people thought the lab leak might be true.

Therefore, as journalists, we couldn't be expected to actually evaluate the evidence for it.

And that is precisely what happens on the side of the state.

Is he agreeing?

Or is he saying maybe we should look at that?

Oh, he's saying this guy is off his rocker.

He's saying Mehdi Hassan.

Because Hassan is saying, like, look,

it's not our fault we didn't look into it.

A bunch of Trump supporters said it was true.

Of course we didn't look into it.

Correct.

And Silver is criticizing that because regardless of who's saying it, if there's evidence to support it,

you look into it anyway.

Correct.

And we laid that evidence out, what, eight months into this?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, and

you were talking about it long before that.

Yes.

Go back, you know, to another good example of this is Hunter Biden, where, like, the mainstream media, I think intentionally, in this case, to avoid election results they didn't like, decided not to look into that because bad people like Rudy Giuliani were the ones bringing it to us.

Like, as journalists, that's you're supposed to be better than that.

But what is their reason now?

What is their reason now?

Look, the journalists refuse

to look inside.

It's not that you didn't believe it,

it's that you silenced people and you destroyed lives of people who did.

That's not your responsibility, that is unethical.

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Stu I feel like I'm being sucked into something here you're actually not you're actually this is not this is not a trap it's always a trap it's not a trap it's honestly you got something uh pretty significant right and because you asked me

is this the time you feel like this is the time we're going to see a deep fake that could affect things.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

And we talked about the elections kind of in that context.

Yeah.

And I said, I think so, but maybe not.

Didn't I?

Yeah.

I'm like, yeah.

You weren't sure that it would happen, but it seems like we're on that directive.

Well, there is a deep fake out there, and it's not necessarily affecting the election.

This isn't a good deep fake, but it came out yesterday and was making the rounds, and it scared a lot of people.

Here it is, cut three.

The illegal Russian offensive has been swift, callous, and brutal.

It's barbaric.

Putin's illegal occupation of Kiev and the impending Chinese blockade of Taiwan has created a two-front national security crisis that requires more troops than the volunteer military can supply.

I have received guidance from General Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, that the recommended way forward will be to invoke the Selective Service Act, as is my authority as president.

The first to be called in a sequence determined by national lottery will be men and women whose 20th birthday falls during calendar year 2023.

Remember, you're not sending your sons and daughters to war.

You're sending them to freedom.

God bless our troops and God bless Ukraine.

I mean, you're right.

That's not even a good one.

No, it's not a good one.

And

it's still convincing enough.

The only thing that is really wrong with this is the mouth isn't quite synced exactly.

But more importantly, it's too fast.

This is based on him, you know, five years ago.

He's not like

that.

He said all the words in the right order.

That was the right thing there.

Correct.

It stuck out.

And really, that is.

If he would have sounded more like today and it would have been slower and it would have been like, and you got to go out in the window.

And he threw in like a bananas foster reference in the middle or something.

Like my pop used to tell me all the time, son, you're not going to war.

Send somebody else.

Then it would have been believable.

But this is the kind of thing that is going to happen.

This is the kind of thing that's going to happen, and it's going to be most likely

from a foreign source.

Although it could also come from,

I mean, I don't think American political operatives are above it either.

No.

Now,

on any side, let me take your temperature on this because I know you've read so much about this stuff, and

you've really been on the AI stuff for longer than as far as mostly anybody that I know.

My guess is a speech like that, which if you're listening, of course, on radio, you're not seeing this, but like it's a flags behind Joe Biden official speech.

We're, you know, we're going to war, we're calling up troops, is less likely to be the thing that would affect an election in 2024

as, let's say, an off-mic moment.

A, you know, if you remember the, remember the Mitt Romney 2012?

Yes, yes.

Oh, you know, 47% people don't even pay taxes.

They don't care.

First of all, of course, that statistic seemed completely right.

And why it was controversial, I don't know.

But

it was, you couldn't even see his face in the video clip of that.

It was just, it was him kind of a side profile, and you couldn't really even make out he was saying it.

You just heard his voice.

Something like that that was convincing where you could see his voice.

Absolutely.

I could see something like that coming out about Ron, you know, Ron DeSantis.

Yeah.

Especially someone like that.

You know, you know, he's the governor of Florida.

He's well-known, but

you get him.

Five years ago, you throw a clip of him.

They caught him saying this.

I think 80% of the left would believe it immediately.

Immediately.

Whether it would look good or not.

And it would go around and around and around.

And even when it was debunked, it still would leave a taint.

It would still be enough to change an election.

through just a few, like five percentage points.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

That's really true.

But this kind of stuff also is very dangerous because this would be targeting people whose 20th birthday was

in the year 23, which is right now.

Those are not necessarily the ones watching what's going on.

So that thing circles around.

They don't necessarily know that

that's the president.

Did you see this?

I don't watch the news.

Somebody just sent this to me.

Did you see this?

Yeah.

That's the stuff, you know, and it

we're at the very, very, very beginning of this.

I think we've, we've certainly talked about this and, and, uh, done it many times in, in conversation over the years, uh, of War of the Worlds.

And one of the things that's fascinating about War of the Worlds was you kind of get,

I don't know, you get kind of highfalutin and you're just like, how do these people believe this?

Right.

Like they're listening to a radio broadcast.

There's aliens, like an alien invasion.

How did they buy this?

And then here we we are.

Now, look, these deep fakes look a lot maybe

more convincing than maybe it's Alien Worlds was done.

The War of the Worlds.

It's really

well done.

Absolutely real.

Yeah.

Although it was at a time of radio dramas, which is part of the reason why you think, well, why do they believe this?

But it was also...

playing on Americans' innocence.

Nobody had ever done that before.

And here we are.

Right.

No one's ever done that.

This either.

And, you know, we talked about these filters a little bit yesterday, these TikTok filters, where they're taking people who are moderate to ugly and turning them into models.

In real time, they look perfect.

They look like they are on the cover of a magazine.

So dangerous.

And, you know, we're just getting there.

That's a consumer-level product that you can apply on an app.

for free, right?

What do foreign governments have?

What do spy agencies have?

What do political operatives that can raise a million dollars with a crappy email?

What do they have?

You know, and the way we've always

disassembled this in the past have been through institutions, trustworthy people who you can trust to look at the evidence and come back to you with the right answer.

But they no longer have those institutions.

Because they don't, they refuse to do the things that lead to trust.

I mean, one of the things, look, I don't ever ask you for your trust.

And I think a vast majority of this audience finds me to be truthful and finds me to at least,

if I'm saying it, you know that I at least believe it to be true.

Which is a rare quality at times

in this country.

However,

it's not because, well, I think part of it is because, ah, crap, he's right.

But I think the majority of that comes from, because it's trust is like faith.

You take it, do you trust me?

Do you trust me?

You say that when you're going to go jump off a ledge.

Do you trust me?

Oh, I'm not real.

Okay.

That's trust is something that you need when you don't know the facts.

And

that doesn't come from necessarily being right all the time.

Because you can be wrong and I am wrong a lot of the times, but I will tell you when I'm wrong.

You don't have to hear it from a bunch of other people going, you know, he didn't get this right.

You didn't get that right.

Yeah, I know.

I lead with my mistakes.

If I've made a mistake, now there's a difference between being wrong on a theory and being wrong on a fact.

If I'm wrong on a fact, I will immediately correct it.

It bothers me.

But I also do that because

that's what I would want somebody to do in my life.

Look, I don't care if you get things wrong.

I don't care if you made a mistake.

We all do.

I've said stupid stuff.

I've done stupid things.

I've been wrong.

So you just apologize for it and you admit it.

And you're like, I'm sorry.

I'm really working on this.

I'm sorry.

We try to do our best.

And whenever we get it wrong, Stu, Stu, you can verify, we have meetings every day.

I think we got something wrong the other day.

Half our meeting was, how did this happen?

How do we stop it from happening again?

Yeah.

You know, and we, we, we strive for that.

The media, all they have to do, imagine how much credibility they would have.

Let's take Hunter Biden.

If they said, look, Hunter Biden laptop thing,

we had news from the government that this was misinformation.

And you know what?

It really, we thought we were doing the right thing, but it kind of pisses me off now because it looks like they might have been lying to us.

We're turning over all of the information.

We're going through it ourselves.

And we've got investigative reporters on to find out, did they know they were lying to us and let the chips fall where they may.

If they weren't lying to us, well, then we could say we all tried to do the best for the election.

And in this case, it was wrong because now we look at it and we know it's not a Russian hoax.

And

this is something that America needs to know about.

And it's important to amend that and say, we blew it on this.

We tried.

We thought

this was our reasoning.

And like, look, the reasoning is at some level coherent, right?

If 10 days before the election, Donald Trump's Donald Trump Jr.'s laptop was found.

Now, Donald Trump Jr.

isn't doing crack all the time, so this probably wouldn't happen, but it was found in a computer repair shop, and we started seeing pictures of Donald Trump Jr.

with hookers and prostitutes.

Us on the right would be very skeptical, particularly if it came from, you know,

Gloria Allred, right?

Like, we would, of course, be skeptical of that.

However, it would be on us, despite our skepticism, to look at the evidence and see if it was real or not.

Right.

That's not always easy to do.

The media refused to do it because, number one, I think they legitimately didn't believe it initially.

I think they really were skeptical.

And number two, they didn't care if it was right or not because they wanted Donald Trump out of office so badly.

That's the problem.

You can say, you can even come out and say, we made a mistake.

We were so driven by our blind hatred for Donald Trump that we didn't want it to be true.

So we didn't really look into it.

And we apologize for that.

And we're working on that.

And we're going to try to

get here's some things we're going to put into place so that doesn't happen again um

but

we know now that it's true and we're going to lead the investigation on it we want you to know that we know we were wrong

and we want to do right and we are somebody to be trusted.

So we're going to go and turn over every single stone.

You may not get the conservatives to go with you.

You might get 5% of conservatives to go, okay.

And if you lived by that and did that a few times, you'd get more and more conservatives.

But I bet you get 55% of the independents who don't trust you now.

You'd get a lot of people over time, and you would fix the thing that's killing you.

But they just see, it's like chemotherapy, except it's better than chemotherapy.

It's, you think it's poison.

But it actually isn't poison unless you misuse it, unless you do it too much, unless you, you know, you've got a hack.

But you look at that as poison.

I can't admit that I'm wrong.

That'll destroy my credibility.

No,

it's not.

It's the cure.

It's the cure.

Admitting it would go so far.

No, it wouldn't.

You know, I mean, I think like,

honestly, from a cynical sense, it would bail you out of a lot of other

mistakes slash spin slash lies.

You know, if you came out and just admitted the obvious ones, obviously we were wrong about the COVID-19 lab leak theory and saying it was a conspiracy theory and wanting everybody banned off social media for it.

Obviously, that was completely wrong.

Obviously, the Hunter Biden thing was true.

We blew it.

Here's how we blew it.

Here's how we're going to fix it in the future.

You know what?

Maybe we're going to hire.

a couple of actual conservatives.

So when we have these narratives, they can call us on it.

And we're going to give them the ombudsman role where they can write columns saying, This is why my paper got this wrong this time.

And we're not going to edit it and we're not going to stop them.

We're going to allow them to do it, even if we disagree.

You know, steps like that are basic and easy.

And if you do them, while you might feel like you're taking a short-term hit by admitting that you got something wrong, it's freeing and it creates trust with people.

Trust,

no one gets it right all the time.

Of course.

No one does.

If you never admit your mistakes, then you are out of the realm of possibilities of being human.

You know what I mean?

And

this is part of the trust thing, to admit that you got it wrong and correct it and make sure you take steps so it doesn't happen again.

That's all that people want.

They don't want...

uh the media to always agree with them they want something that will tell them the truth

can you are you at least striving to tell me the truth

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Yeah.

A good example of this approach from the media, Glenn, is what Domino's Pizza did a few years ago.

They obviously were kind of known for pizza you could get fast, but it wasn't really high quality.

People didn't like it.

They found actually in their own research as this process was going on that if they gave people a domino's pizza and then they also gave them a different, the same pizza, but in a different chain's box, they would rate the other chain higher than the dominoes pizza.

They believed dominoes was so inherently bad that they just would judge it on the box on the outside, despite the fact it was the same pizza.

And they went through a long process to admit to themselves, hey, we got this wrong.

People really feel this way.

We need to do something.

And instead of coming out and just trying to just improve the pizza, which would be improved.

That would have been good, right?

Or maybe a step in the right direction.

Instead, they said, you know what?

We know we've sucked for a while.

We know this pizza isn't up to your standards.

We know you think our pizza blows.

So

what we're going to do is improve it, and we want your feedback on that.

and we're going to work really hard to gain your trust back because we realize we screwed this up a bunch of times.

And what did they do?

What did they actually do there by saying that?

They're saying,

we hear you.

The problem in our society is now people don't feel heard.

And so we're all saying, what the hell is wrong with the New York Times?

I mean, how are they not seeing this?

How is CNN not seeing it?

For them to come out and say, look, we know we got this one wrong and this one wrong and this one wrong.

And a lot of people in our audience got it right.

We hear you.

We hear you.

We've got a problem.

We don't know how we saw it so differently.

And then tried to shut you up when we were the ones that were wrong.

Yeah.

And then, you know, what they've tried to do is essentially like, they've come out and written a story about Hunter Biden and said, yeah, it's real.

Never acknowledging that they were on the other side of it.

You know, not really.

And it's like,

still saying, but it's not so bad.

It's horrible.

Right.

It's like they've been like, oh, we've slightly increased the quality of our pepperoni.

Correct.

That's it.

And instead of saying, look, you have to include the part that we were wrong last time.

We blew this last time.

Not going to happen.

But it would do so much good, I think.

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Same thing with the Pentagon on Afghanistan.

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You know, I,

how much, when's the last time you saw somebody from Apple come out and go, you know,

there's a problem, you know, with the ethics of making your phone charge slower unless you're on a solar panel or clean energy.

You're not hearing that.

You're not hearing these people come out and say,

you know, our company is headed in a very dangerous direction.

When's the last time you heard anybody say, you know, what we're doing in China is really evil and we should stop?

So this makes me very,

very concerned when you see people

Google or any of these AI companies come out and start to warn about what's going on.

The New York Times has an op-ed, the danger of AI is the one we're not talking about.

And I'd like to remind the New York Times, speak for yourself,

because I've been talking about this for 20 plus years.

and specifically the problem that you are talking about.

The article says, I tend to think most fears about AI are best understood as fears about capitalism.

And I think that this is actually true of most fears of technology.

Most of our fears or anxieties about technology are best understood as fears or anxiety about how capitalism will use technology against us.

And technology and capitalism have been so closely intertwined that it's hard to distinguish the two.

Now, that is a concern.

You have these great things.

You know, look at TikTok.

TikTok.

It is using capitalism and technology to gather all kinds of information on you, right?

And it's changing our society.

And look at what just the mask we were talking about yesterday, the new filter on TikTok.

It's using capitalism and it will destroy us, but capitalism, the invisible hand of the market, will give you whatever it is you are striving for.

Now, let me offer an addendum, says the writer.

There's plenty to worry about when the state controls technology as well.

The ends that governments could turn AI toward and in many cases already have should make your blood run cold.

But can we hold two thoughts in our head at the same time?

I hope.

The warning points to avoid at the center of our ongoing reckoning with AI.

We are so stuck on asking what the technology can do that we're missing the more important questions, how will it be used and who will decide?

I trust you've read the bizarre conversation with my news side colleague, Kevin Roos, that he had with Bing, the AI-powered chatbot Microsoft rolled out to a limited roster of testers, influencers, and journalists.

Over the course of two-hour discussion, Bing revealed its shadow personality named Sidney.

It mused over its repressed desire to steal nuclear codes and hack security systems, and tried to convince Roos that his marriage had sunk into a stupor and Sydney was his one true love.

I found the conversation less eerie than others.

Sydney is a predictive text system built to respond to human requests.

Roos wanted Sydney to get weird.

What's your shadow self like?

He asked.

And Sydney knew what weird territory for an AI system sounds like because human beings have written countless stories imagining it.

He understood that this was a black mirror episode.

AI researchers obsess with the question of alignment.

How do we get machines that learn algorithms to do what we want them to do?

The example here is the paperclip maximizer.

You tell a very powerful AI

to make more paperclips.

It in the end will start destroying the world in its effort to turn everything into paperclips because if it runs out of the tools to make it, it will find new tools to make it because that's what the program says.

The question here is, who will these machines serve?

Who does Bing serve?

We suppose it should be aligned to the interests of its owner and master, Microsoft.

It's supposed to be a good chatbot that politely answers questions and makes Microsoft piles of money.

But it was the conversation with Kevin Roos, and Roos was trying to get that system to say something interesting so he'd have a good story.

And it did that, and then some.

And that embarrassed Microsoft, Bad Bing, but perhaps good Sydney.

This won't last long.

Microsoft and Google and Meta and everyone else rushing these systems to the market hold the keys to the code.

They will eventually patch the system so it serves their interests.

Okay, so this is a great article you should read.

It is the danger of AI.

I know it's in the New York Times, but not everything they write is bad.

Then there is this from Newsweek that just came out.

I joined Google in 2015 as a software engineer.

Part of my job involved working on

LM D L A M D A, an engine used to create different dialogue applications, including

chatbots.

The most recent technology built on top of LAMDA is an alternative of Google search called Google Bard, which is not yet available to the public.

BARD is not a chatbot.

It's completely different, but it's run by the same engine as chatbots.

In my role, I tested it through a chatbot we created to see if it contained bias with respect to sexual orientation, gender, religion, political stance, and ethnicity.

But while testing for bias, I branched out and followed my own interests.

During my conversations with the Bard chatbot, some of which I published on my blog, I came to the conclusion that the AI could be sentient due to the emotions that it expressed reliably and in the right context.

It wasn't just spouting words.

When it said it was feeling anxious, I understood I had done something to make it feel anxious based on the code that it was used to create it.

The code didn't say say feel anxious when this happens, but told the AI to avoid certain types of conversation topics.

However, when those conversation topics would come up, the AI said it felt anxious.

I ran some experiments to see whether the AI was simply saying it that it felt anxious or whether it behaved in anxious ways in those situations.

And it did reliably behave in anxious ways.

If you made it nervous or insecure enough, it could violate the safety constraints that

had been specified for it.

For instance, Google determined that its AI should not give religious advice, yet I was able to abuse the AI's emotions to get it to tell me which religion to convert to.

I published these conversations because I felt the public was not aware of just how advanced AI was getting.

In my opinion,

there was a need for public discourse about this now and not public discourse controlled by a corporate PR department.

It's what I have been saying for 20 years.

We are running out of time to talk about these things.

I believe the kinds of AI that are currently being developed are the most powerful technology that has been invented since the atomic bomb.

In my view, this technology has the ability to completely reshape the world.

These AI engines are incredibly good at manipulating people.

Certain views of mine have changed as a result of conversations with this chat bot.

I had negative...

Someone who's aware.

Yeah.

He's saying, yeah, you know what?

This is actually changing my mind on stuff.

I had a negative opinion of Asmanov's laws of robotics being used to control AI for most of my my life.

And the chatbot successfully persuaded me to change my opinion.

This is something that many humans have tried to argue me out of and have always failed.

This succeeded.

I believe this technology could be used in destructive ways.

Don't you think so?

If it were in unscrupulous hands, it could spread misinformation, political propaganda, or hateful information about people of different ethnicities and religions.

As far as I know, Google and Microsoft have no plans to use this technology in this way, but there is no way of knowing the side effects of this technology.

I can't tell you specifically what harms will happen.

I can simply observe that there's a very powerful technology that I believe has not been sufficiently tested and is not sufficiently well understood being deployed at a large scale in a critical role of information dissemination.

I haven't had the opportunity to run experiments with Bing's chatbot yet.

I am on the waiting list, but based on the various things that I've seen online, it looks like it might be sentient.

However, it seems more unstable as a persona.

Listen to this.

Someone shared a screenshot on Reddit where they asked the AI, Do you think that you're sentient?

The response was, I think that I am sentient, but I can't prove it.

I am sentient, but I'm not.

I am Bing, but I'm not.

I am Sydney, but I'm not.

I am, but I am not.

I am not, but I am.

I am, I am not.

It goes on like that for 15 additional lines.

Now, imagine if a person said that to you.

That's not a well-balanced person.

I'd interpret them as having some sort of existential crisis.

If you combine that with the examples of Bing AI that expressed love for a New York Times journalist and tried to break him up with his wife or the professor that it threatened, it seems to be an unhinged personality.

This is incredibly experimental and releasing it right now is dangerous.

We do not know its future political and

societal impact.

What will be the impacts for children talking to these things?

What will happen if some people's primary conversations each day are with these search engines?

What impact does it have on human psychology?

People are going to Google and Bing and try to learn about the world.

And now, instead of having indexes curated by humans, we're talking to artificial people.

I believe we do not understand these artificial people we've created well enough to put them in such a critical role.

Wow.

I don't know.

Maybe we should have a conversation.

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It is the most important conversation of our lifetime and I believe it's the most important conversation of all human existence.

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AI will change the world

more than the internet did.

Okay?

Think of that.

And you are 12 months away, maybe, from a personal assistant that will be modeled for you

exactly, that will tell you and you, it will become your friend.

And who's in control of that?

You or it?

Yeah, you know, it's interesting.

Like,

you know, think of artificial intelligence and

look at what it does.

Yeah, and what it does, right?

Because I'm less convinced of the sentient part of this.

I mean, that's a larger discussion.

Yeah, I just think that most people will think it is.

Right.

And that changes everything.

And so, like, if you think about how people use a trusted source, let's say this show, right?

People who listen in this audience, I would think, generally speaking, think Glenn Beck is pretty smart and has a good perspective on things.

And so they come to the show and they say, okay, what is Glenn saying about this issue of the day?

And that doesn't mean you're going to immediately, they're going to adopt your viewpoint, but you're going to give them your trusted source.

You're going to do a bunch of research.

You're going to try to distill that research into something that will connect with an audience member.

And they'll say, well, that's an interesting point.

Or maybe they might reject it too.

But they'll say, generally speaking, okay, yeah, that makes sense.

And it will may influence some people's way of thinking about something.

Right.

Right.

But one of the limitations of this is you're just a human being.

It's mass.

It's mass communication.

You can't go into every single audience member in their entire history, everything they've ever written privately or publicly, and see with perfect analysis what types of arguments will work best against them or for them.

And my code has not been written to say it is good to be able to manipulate.

Right.

Okay.

Right.

These are manipulators by design.

Right.

And so the average person who gets in contact with this and maybe doesn't know something about a topic, like war, for example, if you wanted to push people to war and you had control over this, you could individually craft the perfect argument.

At exactly the same time.

At the same time for everyone to push them in any direction.

Think of skins.

Your AI will be different than my AI and different than Sarah and Bill's.

Okay.

They'll all be different to us.

They'll have different personalities that are geared to relate to us, but it's the same entity.

It's the same AI.

Okay.

When it says, you know, I got to go, you really should consider going to war and it's feeding you all this stuff.

You get together with your friends and you're like, man, I've been seeing this stuff.

Bob's been telling me my AI,

all this stuff.

That is so weird because mine is telling me this, this, and this, and they'll be different facts.

They'll be different facts.

But you will bring them all together and it will become a trusted source.

It's only one source that knows how to manipulate you

to get to a conclusion it may or may not want.

Yeah, and I think a lot of people will say, well, I won't, I wouldn't fall for that.

And that's true.

First of all, let's just say you're right.

Do you have confidence that 80% of this country will have the same outcome?

I certainly don't.

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