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So

yesterday,

Marjorie Taylor Green tweeted, we need a national divorce.

We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government.

Everyone I talk to says this from the sick and disgusting woke culture issues shoved down our throats by the Democrats' traitorous America Last policies.

We are done.

Well, the left reacted.

One of the tweets said, all who support Green's call to end the U.S.

should have their U.S.

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So we need a national divorce.

I want to make sure I'm very, very clear on this.

We need a national divorce, she writes.

We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government.

So she's not saying destroy America.

She's saying we should probably not do do business with one another because we're killing each other and shrink the federal government.

Okay, everyone I talk to says this from sick disgusting woke culture issues, shoved down our throats to the Democrats traitorous last America last policies.

We're done.

Okay, then the response, all those who supports green call to end the U.S., she didn't say that, but let's just take her, let's just take it at her, you know, we should separate and have a national divorce.

They should have their U.S.

citizenship revoked.

Really?

Because I know a lot of people on the left that have actually called for the USA

to end,

and they haven't had their citizenship revoked.

So if you want to do that, let's just be consistent.

Here's the way I look at things today.

Remember when they said they wanted to reimagine the police?

Many of us thought, no, they don't want to just reimagine the police.

They want to reimagine everything.

When it comes to the police, they want to reimagine the justice system, the system that we have had in place for over 200 years, the system that is

dictated and designed by our Constitution.

They wanted to redesign and reimagine all of that.

They wanted to reimagine all of our history.

They were taking down statues.

They were making George Washington into a monster.

They wanted to reimagine our basic way of life.

Now,

a lot of us thought that was foolish.

A lot of us thought that was foolish.

Now there is a new study out that shows the results of this.

And it's been a two-year study.

And if you're a long-time listener, you know that I will admit when I'm wrong.

And the study shows right or wrong.

The idea of zero bail and arrest and release, they are not foolish, as it turns out.

They are extraordinarily dangerous as well.

Now common sense told many Americans, that's a disaster.

You don't do that.

You don't just throw something out.

This is important.

You don't just throw something out and say, let's reimagine.

What's your plan?

What are the steps you're going to take?

What are you replacing it with?

Now, they've been studying this since June

2021,

and they are dramatic.

And there's no two ways to read the results.

I'll quickly just give you this.

If you had a zero bail policy,

it appears as though more than 70% now of those who were released without bail

went on to be arrested for additional crimes.

Okay.

78%

of suspects released without bail were found to be rearrested for crimes.

And if you gave bail, only 46%

were arrested.

So that's really, really clear.

And this is just one thing of the reimagining of our entire system.

So we know reimagining war, how that's working out for us, reimagining our military, reimagining our Middle East policy.

We know how those things are working out for us.

So

the left, and let's go back to the police forces, the left

forced a reimagining on our police forces all across the country.

They got their way.

No bail.

They reimagined the district attorneys with George Soros.

They reimagined all of it.

Did it help?

Did it help the criminal

or did it help the victim?

Did it help black people, white people, Hispanics, the communities?

Is life better in those communities for anyone?

Is life safer for either the victim, the offender, or the community?

Is our law enforcement better?

Did it fix the

rogue cop problem?

Are our cops feeling like, you know, they're not the bad guy with no one watching their back?

Or do they feel like they are the bad guy and no one's watching their back?

See, this goes to one piece of the entire puzzle that they have been putting together.

And a society cannot survive very long with lawlessness.

And a free society, even less.

So now that the results are officially in on just this one topic, will the cities admit they're wrong?

Will they change this policy?

Will mayors, governors, legislators, attorney generals rein in this grossly failed experiment?

Now my guess is no.

Well, why?

Again, I'd have to go to common sense.

Couple of things.

One, admitting that you were wrong is very difficult and politicians don't usually do it.

But they also have this thing with Marxism where they say the same thing after every Marxist authoritarian failure.

It just wasn't done right.

Well, we just didn't do it right.

Okay, well, let me ask Seattle.

You had all the power.

Portland, what levers did you not control?

Why did it not work out well?

Were the wrong people in charge again?

See, the only thing you didn't have was the power to physically or permanently silence all those who opposed you.

But you had the power to do that more than any time since the 1950s and the Red Scare.

The reason why this won't change is because it is clear This was never a plan to make policing better.

It was a plan, and and it was well thought out, but it was just a plan to destroy, to tear down, and to create chaos.

And they've been very successful in that plan all across America and throughout almost every portion of society.

The plan to destroy the community, destroy our history, our standards,

to destroy our story,

to destroy our power as an individual and our power as a country, far as

you know, domestically,

our power as a country with foreign relations, and our physical power.

They've destroyed the relationship between parents and teachers, parents and the state, parents and their doctors, while destroying the stability of childhood by refusing

reality and confusing reality with fantasy by destroying logic and reason and empirical truth and replacing it with activism, slogans, relativism, and dangerous lies.

So we have our proof on the reimagining of the police.

We have it in a study.

But we know the proof on so many things.

I mean, anyone with common sense knew this would be the result of no bail.

How long will Americans of all political stripes,

those Democrats, Republicans, Independents, all of us,

how long are we going to wait before we demand at the local, state, and federal level that they end this wanton destruction of our entire way of life?

We are not safer today in most of our cities now.

The world is in much greater danger now because we have reimagined the truths that have kept our military strong.

We are economically in peril, the dollar value,

because we're reimagining what it means to print money.

Our borders are not secure.

Our citizens are not in charge.

They're not listened to many of the times.

Is our government even engaged in the basic tasks that we, the people, outlined for them when we, the people, established the government?

Because we told them in writing that we were just lending them our power in order to, quote, form a more perfect union.

Are they moving toward a more perfect union or a divided union?

We told them we would lend them our power to establish justice.

Is justice

being served or is justice being redefined against the people's will?

Are they ensuring our domestic tranquility or are they the source of a lot of our problems?

Providing for the common defense, promoting the general welfare?

Are they securing the blessings of liberty to ourselves and to our posterity?

Are your children going to be freer than you are?

Boy, I would say that is a big no.

So I don't know if they're even engaged.

I contend that they've not just failed on this job, but they have become hostile to the meaning and purpose of that job.

And we let them.

But our founders knew that this would happen.

They knew we would tolerate it up to some point.

From the Declaration of Independence, all experience has shown that mankind is more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they're accustomed.

We're used to this.

And it's still, I mean, life goes on.

I mean, I'm still free to go to the movies.

I got a job, whatever.

So we tolerate too much, but that's expected.

But we told them that their job was to secure the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Governments were instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

But it goes on, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, not a period, a comma, and to institute new government laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness.

So, what they're saying here is

you have to build the net to fall into.

You have to show what you're going to replace it with.

And you'll notice that anyone who says, I don't want to replace it, I want to live by the Constitution, are deemed radicals, and those who want to reimagine everything are not radicals.

Well, that's an upside-down world.

They said prudence indeed will dictate the governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, now listen to this,

pursuing invariably the same object,

invinces, otherwise known, shows clear evidence, a design to reduce them under absolute despotism.

It is their right, it is their duty to throw off this government and provide new guards for their

future security.

Now,

that's a fascinating phrase.

Think of that.

What a long train of abuses and usurpations.

So things that are happening that are

destroying your freedom, your way of life, our Constitution.

And

they're all ending the same way.

Has anybody ever heard?

Hey, how come?

I mean, this is a mistake.

This is a mistake.

This is a mistake.

How come there's never a mistake that goes the way of the Constitution for America?

That's a long train of abuses and usurptations pursuing invariably the same object, the destruction.

And when you have clear evidence that this is a design, this isn't just happenstance, there are people designing this that put us into

absolute despotism,

then you have a right and a duty.

So the two questions remain.

Do you see a long train of abuses and actions that are trying to destroy destroy your rights and powers?

Do they all point to the same object, to the same

direction, to destroy our system of rights, checks and balances, justice, security,

to give us a completely new form of rule and society?

I think the answer to that one is clearly yes.

But it may not be for those who have their heads in the sand and are not paying attention to the news.

Have we, the people, been informed and involved in those decisions?

Because if we were all doing it and they were sharing and saying, look, we're going to do this.

We want to abolish these rights in the Constitution.

We want to make sure that we have a administrative state and Congress is irrelevant.

And we all talked about it openly and we all decided that would be different.

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So do we have a long train of abuses and actions trying to destroy?

Have you been involved in it

or have you been lied to?

Have you been diverted, silenced, gaslit?

Have you been told things like ESG and the Great Reset are fables, lies, disinformation, conspiracy theories, and now see that they are not that.

And how many times have you been told one thing by your government and then you realize they are actually doing that?

Have they allowed chaos to breed and burn on our streets only to excuse those with a torch and then discredit and silence those people,

call them terrorists?

when they're actually law-abiding citizens who are just standing up and saying law and order?

Has the government grown past their constitutional restraints?

And has it been to enhance and secure your individual rights, or has it been to chain you while freeing those who are in bed with government?

And are all of these abuses and actions pointing the same direction or not?

Now you have a right and duty, but that's only the first question.

How?

What is that duty?

How do you do it?

Now, this is where everyone stops.

This is where everybody says, we got to separate and have a national divorce.

And others say, that's traitorous.

That's treason.

Well, that's because people aren't answering the second question.

The Constitution and

the Declaration of Independence are very clear on your rights and your duty.

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What does that mean?

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So we have been talking about the national divorce.

It's trending again today.

And people are arguing back and forth.

You're a traitor if you say that.

Well, you're a traitor because you're trying to destroy America.

Let's just use some logic and reason here.

Okay, nobody wants a war.

If there is a war between the states, those don't usually end well.

And in fact, I think ours is the only one that's ever ended well, but it won't end the same way this time because we are not the people our founders were.

We have to decide, first of all, is there a pattern or a long train of abuses?

Is there a pattern all pointing to a design to destroy your freedom, your rights, as outlined in the Bill of Rights, Constitution, and the Declaration of Independence.

If you decide that, then you have a right and responsibility according to the Declaration of Independence.

But now, what do you do?

What do you do about that?

Red and blue separate?

Okay,

what does that even mean?

Because if Texas decided to secede, I would not live under a

state unless it was under the framework, the exact framework of the Constitution and the mission statement of the Declaration of Independence.

So in other words, I would not tolerate anything being changed except a reset back to factory settings.

If you want to write a new Constitution,

I'm not in.

Because I support the Constitution of the United States.

I will do everything in my power to protect and defend that.

So I don't really see,

you know, myself, at least, as leaving the United States of America.

I think the United States of America, the power structures, have left the United States of America, not me.

I still believe in the same values that we've had since the revolution and

the beginning of the Republic.

So, what does that mean exactly, the national divorce?

Now, build a dual economy?

This makes sense on so many levels.

First of all, we have seen that the economy, our banking system, our trade with one another, has become

weaponized by the United States government through public-private partnerships.

The things they couldn't do because they were constitutionally restrained, they have gotten corporations to do.

Well, that's a usurpation of the rights in our Constitution.

So, no,

I don't want to live that way.

And until they will reestablish the proper role of government,

we should do everything we can to ensure we don't need their corporations, the government's corporations,

to survive.

But this makes sense

in so many ways.

Look at what COVID taught us.

We are not independent.

We are not independent as people.

We are not independent as communities or states.

We will all perish if there is a global trade shutdown.

We should be rebuilding our manufacturing, our skills.

We should be able to survive locally.

So

having,

you know,

a dual economy is really smart.

So you have a right to do this.

You have a right to discuss this.

You have a duty, it says in the Declaration of Independence, to throw off the chains.

But what is that duty?

What does that mean?

Because remember, there's a comma, not a period.

You have to replace it with something that you think is going to be better.

Now, I can't think of anything better than the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence.

Can't think of anything better that would protect them.

You just have to actually use those things.

See, it's our duty to not only

throw off the chains.

and not act as terrorists or to become what we despise.

It's to work together as a people to throw off the chains and organizing such powers that will be more likely to protect those rights.

So that's not a terror group.

From Antifa to the white supremacists that offer nothing more than chaos, slavery.

You have to have a plan before you follow someone.

Or you say, let's just shirk off these chains.

You can't.

What's your plan that ends up being more safe for individuals and their rights?

I haven't heard that plan.

You see, there is a plan on the other side.

They are building the framework of a global community.

They are building a global government.

They are building a new currency that will monitor you.

They are building the authoritarian state.

And there's a very well-crafted, well-designed plan that quite honestly is genius.

They didn't collapse us first.

They're collapsing us as the power grows.

They start to put in ESG.

And as that takes root,

they collapse us a little bit more.

And so it's a controlled destruction.

Well, you don't just destroy that and expect everything to go well.

What is the framework?

So when somebody says we should secede or we should have a national divorce, what do you mean by that?

What is the framework?

What are the states,

what is their government like?

The first thing we have to do, if you believe there are usurpations and a long train of abuses that point

to despotism,

we must first reestablish our first citizenship.

Otherwise, this is America's cornerstone, God.

If you live up to those laws first, start with the first, you know, hey,

how about the Ten Commandments?

If those are too difficult, how about the golden rule?

Okay.

Live up to those laws first.

Because that will give you reason, clarity, and divine inspiration to re-establish

this experiment and the guardians to guard those rights.

In the meantime, know that the design is real.

The design to destroy this is real.

And so we all have a duty to stand up.

But what?

We stand up for the restraint on current power.

We're not against, we're for the Bill of Rights.

Why are we always saying we're against this?

We should be saying, no, that's a violation of the Bill of Rights, and I am for freedom of speech.

We need to stand for people like Freedom Caucuses.

There should be a Freedom Caucus in at least 25 states, and they should be powerful.

Texas doesn't even have one.

How is that possible in a state this red?

Because this state, the GOP, has gone corrupt.

We need to stand as long as the Freedom Caucus stands for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Ohio, stop waiting for the feds.

What are you waiting for?

Why did the governor wait so long?

What, the governor has absolutely no power?

I mean, I swear, I'm going to get him a little bracelet that says, what would Ron DeSantis do?

Just look at it every day.

You think he's waiting around?

Take care of your own people.

You look mousy and quite unquite frankly, un-American.

Now,

we need to stand up in all cases against lies.

Now that's hard.

In all cases against, do not tolerate lies.

This is the easiest thing you can do.

Do not go along to get along.

That doesn't mean agitate.

That means, no, I'm sorry.

That's not true.

Get involved in your anti-ESG legislation on your state level.

Work for fair access laws which empower you, not the Attorney General, but empower you

to go after ESG.

Now is the time to support candidates that will throw the rhinos out.

Now is the time to decide, am I supposed to run?

Am I supposed to help somebody who is running?

In 2024, there should be strong Bill of Rights and constitutional candidates.

Not radicals, not crazy people, people

who know the Constitution and Bill of Rights and will walk through fire to re-establish that.

Mitt Romney should have a challenger right now.

Kevin Kramer in North Dakota should have a challenger.

Does he have a challenger?

Is the GOP or the freedom-loving people there?

Are you working on this?

Roger Wicker of Mississippi.

These Deb Fisher in Nebraska, these senators can be flipped.

But you better have a good candidate.

And you should be working on it right now.

We don't need to separate.

We need to find things that we all pretty much agree on.

And this insane march to war is something that should be universal.

We should stand up against the march towards war.

Stand up in your local community.

You want to make a difference?

Start a farmer's market if you don't have one already.

You want to make a difference?

If you have one already, go shop the farmer's market.

Go find a church that is actually engaged, not necessarily in politics, but a church that is teaching what our pilgrims knew, that made them a danger to the king, which is, there is no king but God.

I answer to God first, not men.

And the flow of power goes God,

man,

government.

Government is last and only empowered by man to protect the rights given to him by God.

This is what we need to do to save our country.

But if I boil it down to one thing,

it would be getting you and your family right with God.

God

is the only answer answer at this point.

If we do not have his

favor,

we do not survive.

This is a divine and sacred land.

This land, is it a coincidence that freedom was established here and all of this land, we have everything we need,

everything

we need to be independent and free.

and be a beacon on a hill for all the world to see.

This is how it can be done.

This is how man can live with one another in peace, in harmony.

We get it wrong, and sometimes for long periods of time.

But as long as the people understand they have the power to correct those wrongs and go back to the system, that was divinely inspired, our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, our Declaration of Independence, all of the answers that you need are in those documents.

So,

should we have a national divorce?

I wouldn't be against it, but

I'm the one that's keeping the kids.

I think we're the ones that,

you know, need to make sure we're not the ones that are violating the rules of this marriage.

You are.

You're the ones stepping out on

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I'm living by the rules of the Constitution.

And if your state is not,

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Going to be on Megan Kelly's podcast today, noon Eastern Time, if you happen to listen to her podcast.

Speaking of podcasts, there's an interesting one called The Witch Trials of J.K.

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I haven't heard it yet, but it's interviews with J.K.

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Yeah, by the way, coming up next, Nikki Haley joins me.

We're going to talk about Don Lemon, but also the state of war that seems to be coming.

Very recently, we shot down a Chinese spy balloon.

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Nikki, welcome to the program.

How are you?

Hi, Glenn.

It's great to be with you.

It is great to be with you.

Listen,

I know we have a short period of time, so I want to get through an awful lot.

First, let me make sure that everybody understands.

This is Nikki Haley.

She's running for president, even though she's past her prime and only uses her brownness to mask her white supremacy.

You know, I mean, I have always made the liberals' heads explode.

They can't stand the thought that a conservative minority female would not be Democrat.

And they just throw anything and everything.

And, you know, it just, it means we're winning.

They know that they know that I pull independents.

They know I pull suburban women.

They know I pull minorities.

And so if that's all they got, bring it.

Yeah.

I want to talk to you about, I am,

I'm very concerned about what I think is this march to global war.

You know, we have

spent all of our capital on,

you know, peace through strength.

We look incredibly weak.

The president was over in Ukraine.

It's regime change or nothing, I think.

What are we doing?

What are we doing?

Well, first of all, this isn't peace through strength.

I mean, I think let's start with the fact that Biden should not be in Ukraine right now.

He should be in Ohio with the people who are hurting.

And that's problem number one, is that you never have a crisis happen and not be with your people.

So that's my first phone to pick with him.

You know, the second thing is he's never shown any strength.

I mean, all we have to do is, you know, none of this would be happening.

Let's be very clear.

None of this would be happening if we wouldn't have had the debacle in Afghanistan.

That sent so many ripple effects.

I mean, the idea that we would leave Bagram Air Force Base in the middle of the night without telling our allies who stood shoulder to shoulder with us for decades.

I mean, nothing was more embarrassing than that.

So that sent a huge message to our allies, but it sent a bigger message to our enemies.

So what should we be doing?

I mean, we're in Ukraine

just sending everything over, another $500 million, and now I guess we're paying for their pensions.

China is all pissed off at us.

They're threatening the Philippines.

I mean, Israel is probably going to hit Iran.

North Korea is flexing its muscles.

Are we a nation headed towards war because we look so weak?

Well, we have to understand that war is not an option.

We have to prevent war.

The way you prevent war is, first of all, I mean, when it comes to Ukraine, I will tell you, I don't think we should ever send cash.

I don't think we should send blank checks.

I think we should rally the NATO troops and say NATO countries and say, what are you sending?

What are you sending?

And we need to make sure that Ukraine has the equipment and ammunition from all of us to make sure they can win.

They have proven that they can do that.

If Biden would have done that quickly in the beginning and rallied the troops with the NATO countries, we wouldn't be sitting in this position.

But what you do is you make sure they have the ability to win.

They don't need us to do that.

They just need the equipment to do it.

The second thing is if we see Ukraine follow through, which Russia's lost 200,000 troops, they've raised the draft age to 65.

You know he's losing when he's getting drones from Iran and missiles from North Korea.

What we have to do is let them finish the job.

And that will send the biggest message to China, Iran, and any enemy or dictator that wants to destroy the West, because China very much sees the West as the big centers.

And they are determined to take us over.

And Glenn, I've got to say, the idea that Americans, that American children would look to the sky and see a Chinese spy balloon looking back at them.

is the most unthinkable national embarrassment we could have ever had.

And that's no different than Afghanistan because the rest of the world is going, what in the world is happening with America?

All right.

So let me go back on a couple of things.

You said provide them, you know, the tools.

Does that include jets and tanks?

Well, I think that, you know, first of all, when we sent that, you know, if we had sent the anti-javelin tanks, you know, President Trump did that.

And that was a big win for them because that's what they needed to be able to finish the deal.

We have to go with the NATO countries and saying, what do you send?

But I think you send what they need to win.

But we don't do it alone.

We do it with the other countries.

They will win this.

And they will win this sooner when we stop dragging our feet.

We don't need to worry about sending cash to keep their government going.

We need to worry to make sure that they have the ammunition to fight because they have the will.

They are trying to protect their freedom.

They're trying to save their country.

So we need to give them the ability to do that.

So when we tell China that they can't send any aid over or that'll be a line that they'll cross with us,

how do we have any credibility?

I mean, China's going to do what China's going to do.

First of all, China usually got arms from Russia.

It was never Russia getting arms from China.

China typically sends parts.

That's mostly what China ends up giving to Russia.

But look, I mean, you can't trust either one of these countries.

The problem is, don't forget, before this war started, China and Russia declared themselves unlimited partners.

And they said Iran was their junior partner.

They are determined to make sure that the West falls.

We have to be determined to make sure that we are the ones that show that freedom reigns and that freedom will always reign and that we as freedom-loving countries are going to stick together to make sure that happens.

If they see that, China doesn't want, China sees what's happened to Russia with all the sanctions.

They don't want that to happen to them.

So we don't need to be sending threats saying you can't send this to Russia.

We just need to send the idea that, look, we're unbreakable.

This isn't going to happen.

You see what happened to Russia.

That could happen to you as well.

I have said for years

that there will come a time when the rest of the world will sense our weakness and they'll say, now, go, go, go, go, go.

I think we're at that point.

We are completely at that point.

And there's no way to, I mean, there's nothing this president can do that will send the message that we're tough because we're not.

He's not.

He's not a serious threat to anyone if somebody threatens us.

I don't even think our Pentagon really is a threat at this point, the way they're being run and what they did in Afghanistan.

How do we make it the next two years without getting into

real trouble with some of these countries?

I mean, honestly, Glenn, Glenn, and I'm not being funny here.

We better start praying.

Because, you know, if he's not even going to protect our borders and you've got terrorists coming across our borders, you've got Russian terrorists coming across our borders.

The fact that he's not even doing that says so much.

They know this is the weakest president we've ever had in history.

And they know if ever there was a time they wanted to get territory, if ever there was a time they wanted to defeat us, it's now.

And so, you know, Biden is doing nothing.

He's literally doing nothing.

And so, you know, what I can tell you is as a military wife who doesn't want to see America go to war, I will tell you that the second that we start getting control of America back, the second we start showing strength, the second we show how strong our military is, strong militaries don't start war.

Strong militaries prevent war.

We have to start acting like the strong country that we used to be.

And you do that not by reacting to countries.

You do it by telling them what you expect of them.

That's what went wrong.

If you look at when President Trump was in office,

he and I did it at the UN.

He was there.

He told countries what they should expect from us.

I made a point when I went to the UN.

I told them what the U.S.

was for and what the U.S.

was against.

I didn't care if they didn't like me, but I wanted them to respect America.

That's where we have to get back to again.

You know,

Trump surrogates are suggesting that you're more of a globalist warhawk.

You have told me how much you respect President Trump.

How do you stay above the fray

with Donald Trump?

Why did you decide, you said once, I'm not going to run if he's running, but you are now.

And how do we stop this from being ugly?

Well, first of all, when I said I wasn't going to run against him, we had not had the fall in Afghanistan.

We did not have Biden fall all over himself to get back into the Iran deal.

We didn't see all of these closings in schools.

We didn't lose the midterms.

So when I look at this, I think that we have to start looking forward.

There's been a lot of chaos in the past.

People love to talk about the past.

We've got to move forward.

I was a governor.

I took a hurting state and I turned it into the beast of the southeast.

When I was at the U.N., I took the kick-me sign off of our backs.

I am a problem solver.

I want to get in there.

I want to to fix it.

And I do think it's time for a new generation to go in there.

I don't think you have to be 80 years old to run for president.

President Trump is my friend.

He is my friend.

But I think it's time for something new.

And I think that we need to start boldly going where we haven't gone before and start riding the ship.

And, you know, I think that if ever there was a time, America is tired of losing.

America is tired of losing and we have to do that.

Now, how do we keep it from not getting messy?

I'm not kicking sideways.

I'm kicking forward.

I'm not going and focusing on President Trump.

I'm focusing on President Biden and how awful he's leading our country.

And that's where we're going to focus.

And, you know, if those others choose to get dirty and you've seen how the liberals have like self-combusted over the fact that I'm running, they can do that.

But I am very focused and very disciplined on the fact that American families can't afford their groceries.

Mothers are looking for baby formula.

Children are so far behind in their education, we don't know if we can catch them back up.

We've got open borders.

We're having our minds closed by woke ideology.

And we've got a Chinese spy balloon in the air.

I mean, something's got to give.

I'm not going to wait for somebody else to fix it.

I'm going to get in there and fix it.

So, you talked about a competency test for politicians recently.

And,

you know, we didn't have this problem when George Washington retired after

his second term.

That set the standard until the progressive era.

And the progressives just wanted to be more autocratic and keep the power centralized, and everybody can run for as many terms as they want, which we saw with

FDR.

When you talk about a competency test, that's clear with Joe Biden.

It is clear with Feinstein.

It's clear

with our new senator from Pennsylvania.

But it's not really just the competency of the people in office.

Honestly, that's competency of the voter.

How do you not,

it's not that they just won't leave.

It's just the voter can see it and they still vote for it.

Well, I think what I am strongly, and I will push for term limits.

I do think we need to have mental competency tests for anyone over 75.

Look at D.C.

and look at everybody there, from Diane Feinstein to Bernie Sanders, you know, pitched a fit yesterday yesterday on the fact that I said that, and that's all the reason we have to do it.

It's about transparency, Glenn.

We need to start realizing government works for the people, not the other way around.

And that means that elected officials don't get to go up there and just do what they want and show the power they want.

They need to be transparent to the American people.

I mean, don't forget that when I was a state legislator in South Carolina, Our legislators weren't showing their votes on the record.

We had a Republican House, a Republican Senate, and a Republican governor.

And my focus was if you are debating anything on the floor of the House or the Senate, you have to show legislative votes on the record.

I was completely blackballed.

So I ran for governor.

And now South Carolina shows every vote on the record, every ounce of transparency from health care to term limits to competency tests.

When the American people see who is really in D.C., when they see what they're doing, we will expose all of that because we need to light a fire under our elected officials.

Congress is not working.

So it is.

Something's got to get.

It's also, though, if you get rid of the,

you put term limits there on elected and not on the so-called public servants who have long careers and they make up the deep state.

They don't care who's elected.

They're outlasting them.

Would you consider doing that and reducing the size or abolishing a lot of the

agencies under the president?

Well, you first have to start by being able to fire whoever you need to fire.

I mean, when I was at the United Nations, I saw how entrenched they were.

Obama was very smart.

When he was leaving office, he went and basically promoted all of middle management to senior management so that they couldn't get fired.

We have to go clean our agencies out from the inside out.

Look at our intelligence agencies right now.

Look at the DOJ right now.

Look at the State Department.

All of those, we have to go in and clean house.

And I did that in South Carolina as governor.

You go in and you let them know what you expect of them.

And anybody that is not walking the line where they understand they work for the people, you get rid of them.

And you do it in a way, you know, when I went to the UN, my very first week, John Kerry's sister worked at the UN

in the U.S.

embassy of the U.N.

And she went and started, you know, causing trouble the very first week.

I told them, I said, get rid of her.

And they said, oh, you can't can't get rid of her.

She doesn't retire for six more months.

I said, send her home.

I don't care.

She's not working here.

You can't have poison in a situation and think you're going to fix it.

You got to get rid of all of the toxicity.

Nikki Haley, running as a presidential candidate for the GOP in 2024.

You can find all the information on her and support her candidacy by going to nikkihaley.com.

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Nikki, thank you so much.

Thank you, my friend.

Talk to me soon.

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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

If you missed the first part of today's podcast, make sure you grab it.

In hour number one,

I spoke about,

you know, the national divorce that is currently trending today.

The national divorce.

Should we get a national divorce?

Well, I'm not the one cheating on our marriage vows.

So,

you know, maybe somebody else should be kicked out, not

me.

Why would I leave the house, you know, and the Constitution and everything else?

Anyway,

but I talked about what we need to do, and I broke it down

clearly and

gave you a look constitutionally and through the Declaration of Independence.

There are rights and responsibilities, and there are things that you can and must do.

Make sure you listen to today's podcast, our number one.

Jason Whitlock is joining us.

He is the Blaze TV host of Fearless.

If you haven't watched Fearless yet, you're really missing out.

Jason is

really, really good.

He's a different thinker because honestly, he paid attention to what

his calling at the time was, which was sports and being a great, fantastic sports writer,

critically acclaimed.

And

then things started to kind of come up on his radar, like, gee, we should be paying attention.

And so, he's a very different thinker and also a deep thinker about God and the role of men.

He is doing now a

get-together, if you will,

on April 15th in Tennessee.

He's calling it a roll call.

What's a roll call, Jason?

Well, Glenn, I've been promoting a fearless army for a year and a half, two years on the blaze.

And, you know, we're finally going to have a roll call event calling fearless soldiers to Nashville, Tennessee.

to fellowship and gather and encourage each other and inspire each other and

to recommit

to what God defines as our role as leaders in this country.

And

it's born of a belief that we don't have political problems in America.

We have spiritual problems in America.

And if men don't recommit

to God, we're going to lose this country.

And it's funny you have me on today.

I don't know if you saw Glenn, but Vladimir Putin did his version of a State of the Union address early this morning in Russia, and he talked

about what's going on in Western culture and how we're, he called it, how we're abandoning all the holy scriptures and all the biblical texts.

And

literally, I was like, man, we need this dude over here in America.

And I know, you know, that'll probably get me into trouble, but it's like, how come Vladimir Putin can talk about God and staying true to biblical values, but our president can't?

That's the problem here in America.

Men have abandoned the roles and jobs

that were assigned to us by God, and we have a society in complete chaos and free fall.

So when you say this, I just want to make sure that everybody is crystal clear on this, because you said you've been calling for a fearless army for a while now.

And, you know, through traditionalism, capital T, not a small T,

and Christianity and, you know,

what the FBI just said about the Catholics, et cetera, et cetera.

People will go, see,

they're rearing an army based on God.

You're not talking about camouflage.

You're talking about the armor of God.

Ephesians.

Absolutely talking about the armor of God.

I'm talking about a commitment to family, and I'm talking about failures in my own life.

And again, this is part of the slogan for this first roll call:

bearing witness requires courage, not perfection.

I've certainly been imperfect, and I valued money and career success and other things over the creation of my own family and a commitment to family, and it's been a mistake.

And so, once you have a society that is catering to single parents and individuals rather than family,

you have the kind of issues that we have.

Drag queens in schools, kids with gender dysphoria and mutilating kids' bodies because they feel like a man or a woman depending on what their teacher last told them.

It's this type of chaos when men don't draw a line in the sand and don't play our proper roles, our society goes out of control.

And so,

Glenn, I'm not going to,

because you're right, I'm not talking about a physical army, but I really don't care how the other side interprets

me.

I agree.

I just want to make sure that we are clear because there are people on all sides that

need to know.

You need to be clear on who you are

so you are standing next to people that you agree with.

I hope I'm not about to say something inappropriate, but I'm going to say what I feel.

There are issues going on right now in American society that are worth dying over.

Yes.

And

if that makes me a bad guy, I'm a bad guy.

But what they're doing to kids, this radical gender theory and all this other stuff, and sexualizing kids, it's worth dying over.

I don't know anything more worth dying over.

They're ruining kids' lives with this culture we have.

We're dividing up everybody over race and gender and all this other stuff.

I had an incredibly happy childhood and grew up poor.

Grew up poor.

This whole little thing that money makes you happy, and if you don't live in a 5,000 square foot home, how can you be happy here in America?

That's a joke.

It's just not true.

But we're taking the things that I enjoyed about my childhood and the things that my parents told me and my church told me that I could go out and be anything and do anything and accomplish anything here in America.

We're taking that away from kids, particularly black kids, and we're telling them you can't achieve in this country.

This system's rigged against you.

If I had that burden hovering over me, everybody in society telling me I couldn't make it, I would have never made it.

And

what a burden to place on a child.

God doesn't place that burden on a child.

God doesn't place, God is about victory, not victimhood.

And we've totally perverted this in society.

And I just feel bad for kids that aren't going to have the kind of hopeful upbringing that I had that made money irrelevant.

We used to eat butter sandwiches on Wonder Bread, and I didn't know that that was because I was poor or I really didn't even care.

I just wanted to go outside and play and play sports and be with my friends.

They're just taking all that away from kids.

And so I'm just, I want to rally up men to,

like myself, to remind us, there's a job we have to do.

We have to be leaders of our families and our communities.

And if we're not willing to do that, we're going to sentence our kids and grandkids to to a lifestyle and a life that will not lead to fulfillment, will not have any of the freedoms that we took for granted.

And I just can't live with myself knowing that that's what we've left to the generation behind us.

It's just irresponsible and cowardly.

So I did something similar to this.

What was that called, Sarah?

Do you remember?

Stu?

A long time ago, David Barton and a bunch of us went on the road.

And

yeah, American Revival.

We did American Revival.

And I assume that this is very much like it.

You have a bunch of speakers.

Can you lay out who the speakers are and what the topics are?

The speakers are going to be myself.

We have two ministers that participate on the show, Pastor Anthony Walker, Pastor Bobby Harrington.

They're local.

I believe we're bringing in E.W.

Jackson.

He's from Baltimore.

Some contributors on my show,

TJ Mo, Delano Squires will also be speaking.

All of it will be about Bobby Harrington's going to lay out what is manhood.

Give us just a functional definition of that.

TJ Mo, former SEC football player, is going to talk about why men never quit.

Because right now, it looks like, oh my God, how are we going to make it?

How are we going to,

it looks like we're losing this battle.

T.J.

is going to remove, men never quit.

Delano Squires is going to talk about the importance of family and family structure.

That's his passion.

Anthony Walker is going to talk about not getting sifted.

And there's a part in the Bible where Jesus talks to his disciple about how Satan is going to sift and separate you like wheat.

And that's what's happening to us across America.

Christians are being sifted and taken apart.

You're black, you're white, you're gay, you're straight, you're this, you're that, when we all need to be having our identity in Christ and belief in God and image bearers of God and not be separated the way the left is separating us.

So those are the things we'll be talking about.

We'll have music, we'll have some entertainers come in and sing.

We've got some custom songs that are associated with my show.

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And that's what we're going to try to do on April 14th and 15th here in Nashville.

And you're going to be doing the show and the cookout the day before at the at the Jason Whitlock Blaze Studios in Nashville.

Yeah.

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I think he is great.

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And he actually really deeply believes these things.

But he's a prime example of why I have spoken about Alexander Dugan for very many years.

And people didn't understand it, and they still don't understand, the dangers of capital T traditionalism.

There is a difference between traditional values and traditionalism.

And traditionalism

is what is being preached by Vladimir Putin.

First of all, do you think Vladimir Putin really is worried about following the scriptures?

I don't think so.

He's saying those things.

He's saying those things because he knows that it's populist.

He knows that the Russian people are against the way the West is behaving.

And many of us in the West are against the way the West is behaving.

And so it's a very fine line.

When you hear things like this, especially from from Putin or from Russia, it is very, very

seductive.

This is why capital T traditionalists have been infiltrating some of our churches and our movements.

And we have to be extraordinarily careful

because that is

a

very well-defined

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Well,

they've been busy little bees

on the eastern side of this globe.

You've got Putin, who just gave a speech on

Russia and Ukraine and the United States.

He suspended our nuclear treaties and said we're no longer in a nuclear treaty with the United States.

He warned again about us arming Ukraine.

We, our UN ambassador, just told China we're serious.

No arms, no military support for Russia, or else

Or else what?

Or else what?

Meanwhile, Joe Biden is gaffing his way across the world.

He's giving a speech in a few minutes

about the Ukrainian war to the Polish people.

Like to hear what he has to say on that.

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So I don't know about you, Stu, but I feel pretty darn good about that Putin speech.

Yeah.

Yeah, pretty good.

Pretty good.

Oh, yeah?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

In what way?

Well, I got up this morning and I'm like, look, he would be the pariah of the world if he launches a nuclear war.

Now, could he launch a tactical nuke?

Yeah.

But I still think that would be a bad idea.

Okay.

I think he would find himself the pariah of the world.

Well, I mean, he, in some ways, is the pariah of the world already.

Yeah, but even more so.

I think that's true.

And I think it would only be done in a true moment of real desperation.

Like he thought it was over and he was about to be overthrown, type of situation, which, by the way, is in the realm of possibility.

Correct.

So

you have that going on for you.

And I was thinking, hey, he wouldn't do that.

But what he would do is exactly what he said, fight World War III with ones and zeros.

And he could do as much and maybe even more damage if he could cripple our electricity, if he could cripple our access to power for a few months, even

a large population death.

That seems like a real possibility, a scary one.

And you hope the worst case doesn't come to play there.

But my son asked me this the other day.

He's 11 years old,

got a whiff of the Chinese balloon situation.

Yeah.

And was like, well, you know, started asking me about nuclear war and stuff.

And, you know, they had talked about, I guess, the Chinese balloon in school.

And he said, like, he was asking me what, what are the chances of

nuclear war happening?

And you didn't call me.

You didn't ask.

Let's ask Uncle Glenn.

He knows how to talk.

He knows how to talk to kids.

Good God, my kid would be twisted forevermore.

And I said to him, my answer was, the odds of a nuclear war are very, very low.

Very low.

Very, very low.

Probably will not happen.

Now, of course, that's the right answer to a kid, probably even if the odds are high.

But I think that it's true that the chances of that breaking out are low.

I think mutually assured destruction still is effective.

It's one of those things that goes beyond politics and relationships and bad presidents and all of that, which is why it's such a good thing, right?

It's why having a nuclear arsenal like we have and like they have winds up being a net positive, despite how crazy that sounds at times.

But these other possibilities are real, right?

oh and scary and things that we have not really contemplated and can't certainly can't deal with you take our power generation ability away from us you hit our power plants and you collapse our grid and you could do it by hitting 10

you uh you collapse our grid it will work one time just like Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

You know, that first shock and awe of it.

And, you know, we didn't know what it would actually be like.

We knew it would be horrific, blah, blah, blah.

But what are the lasting effects?

That'll be the same conversation around the world if they would shut down America's power.

But the death toll would be so much higher than,

you know, what we did in Japan.

It will be thought of in the future as a tactical first-strike nuke.

It's remarkable we really don't seem to be taking that seriously.

You know, I usually when these things happen, happen, they're more difficult to do than you think they are.

Like, I remember when

biological war was in the news a lot, and they talked about how scary, and it's really scary possibilities, but to spread a bioweapon is very difficult.

A dirty bomb is actually more difficult than and does it.

I mean, if you want to poison the water supply, I mean, you have to have a train, you have to have it derail, then you have to set it on fire.

Then you have to have one of those wild war trains by talking about something to Ukraine.

You have to have that.

And that's really hard.

It's very difficult.

But like, I don't know.

Like, could they,

Russia,

China, they don't seem to be competent in a lot of things.

Could they actually pull this off perfectly?

I don't know.

I mean, maybe not.

But the fact is they could do a lot of damage with very, with very little resource.

And that's the scary part about it.

You, you could do this with, we saw this happen, where was it, Glenn, recently, where supposed white supremacists of some sort were firing at at power plants and taking them offline.

And it was, you know, short-term in that particular case.

There's a lot more that would need to be done to talk about the types of death numbers you're talking about.

But these aren't studies Glenn Beck is creating.

This is our military looking at these possibilities.

If this goes away, what happens?

It's not good.

It's not good.

Let me switch back here quickly to East Palestine.

Can never say it.

East Palestine?

Thank you.

Kai.

Well, look, Palestine's been in every head for 100 million years.

So I get it right now.

But now I get that thing.

You know, I think you and I may be the only two people that have it.

Yes.

You cannot say it because whatever you think,

you think it's wrong.

And so you just don't say it.

So then you say the one you believe is wrong in your head, and then it's always wrong.

It's always wrong.

Yeah.

Anyway,

do you remember when we talked to

Caitlin?

She owned the farm

that was really one of the closest to the train derailment.

And she had to get out of her property, and they handed her a

waiver and said, Here, we'll test your property.

Just sign this waiver.

And like, no.

And she was looking for somebody to test the property that wasn't, you know, from the train

company or from the EPA.

And I said, we will help you do that.

Well,

we started looking and it was

interesting

to even find a company that was qualified, that was independent of the government and trained companies that could test the water, air, and soil for residents.

It was not easy.

Most of the companies were not helpful.

One said, good luck, laughed, and hung up the phone.

When I say they weren't helpful, it led me to believe that some of these companies

would not get involved because they know of government private and public partnerships and maybe have some public-private partnerships.

We tried to find a company that would test the water, the soil,

the sediment, the air based on the chemicals that were released

into the air um

they it's about ten to fifteen thousand dollars per property

and we're willing to do this for caitlin but i'm not sure that's the best thing um and we can put caitlin and and you know we'll write the check if she wants to engage them um

but i just want you to know there is there's uh

There's too many public-private partnerships that are going on where everybody is scratching each other's back that makes me quite nervous.

Now, when it comes to the train, you know, the train company said, oh, that

release, that was,

well, was that a mistake?

I don't know how that got out there.

Okay, wait a minute.

What?

We were the first person to, we were the first show to bring to you the news.

We got it from Caitlin,

that

they were asking people in the neighborhood to sign sign releases.

And Caitlin told us 350 people had already signed this, which signed away all of their rights to sue or anything else.

Really bad.

And so then when you had

J.D.

Vance, the senator from Ohio, he went on and said,

you know, about the legal waivers.

We wanted to know, is this the same waiver and what's happening?

Because he said it was a mistake.

They accidentally did it.

Well, what he didn't ask was, okay, but those who signed that mistake, are they going to be held to that?

Or is that an invalid waiver?

So we wrote to

Norfolk and asked them, can you confirm that it's null and void?

If it is null and void, how was it accidentally sent?

I'd like to hear that one.

The 340 residents that signed the waiver at the time of our original interview, it could be higher now, will those waivers be nullified?

If the waivers are nullified, will you complete testing without a waiver?

And are there any other partners beyond CTEC and LLC North

Southern that

is or will work on contamination testing, or are these the only companies that

you will cover the costs for?

So we got a call back, and I was shocked that we got a call back.

It was an on-the-record phone call with Connor Spielmaker.

He's the senior communications manager, media relations for the train company, and he said, I wanted to address your core question.

I'm reading the transcript of a phone call with my producers.

I wanted to address your core question first about the waiver, I guess we're calling it.

That was a mistake.

So I believe the language, how it actually happened, I'm not sure, but there was a batch of those forms that were printed that included that language, and it wasn't supposed to.

Our producer asked, how did that happen?

He said, well, probably it was just some copy, you know, copy and paste from a Word document to make sure that whatever.

It was certainly not intentional.

And as soon as that mistake was realized, we pulled those forms, replaced them with the right ones, and we're contacting everybody and anybody who had that form and basically letting them know that that form is not enforceable.

We said

I could see how in an emergency, somebody on the ground, chain of custody gets lost and people aren't getting right approvals.

I could see how that mistake would happen.

So everyone that either got the form or signed the form has been notified or will be notified that it's not enforceable.

Correct.

Have you reached everyone yet?

I don't know, but obviously I'm sure we will reach some of them through you guys announcing it.

We'll be providing that to them in writing.

Anyone that has come and gotten assistance from the railroad company, through the family assistance center, through reimbursements for expenses, or those $1,000 checks that are floating around or has had Norfolk Southern contractor, whatever, in addition to the EPA or whoever was with us, come to their property.

No one has signed away any of their legal rights to us.

That's positive.

That's really good, assuming they back that up with action.

We have an updated waiver too that we can get to here in a minute, but it looks like they have actually updated that.

at some level already and are trying to get that out to people.

Again, this is obviously a catastrophe that they're trying to deal with.

And

while going through the blame of why the actual accident happened is something that's going to happen over the next months and years,

at this point, all they can do is do the best thing possible for the people around the situation and try to make it as tolerable as possible.

If you're giving them a waiver that puts that wipes out all of your responsibility, that's a real problem.

It looks like they've corrected that problem, which is a step in the right direction.

Also, we did get the updated waiver.

We'll at least tweet that if we don't have time.

We called Caitlin last night to see if she had heard from the railroad.

It was 9.15 Eastern when we talked to her last night.

She said she had not received that information.

At 7.45 this morning, we reached back out

and wanted to get a copy of it, and we have it and we will share it with you in just a little while.

So if you are one of those people that signed that waiver, know that that waiver is no longer enforceable and you can sue them if you want to and anybody else.

However, they seem to be doing the right things.

They,

you know, I don't know how stupid you have to be to send that waiver out and how that happened.

However, they are trying to make it right.

And I applaud them for that.

Yeah, certainly some will argue that it was, they're now doing PR

work afterwards.

Whatever it is.

Whatever it is.

But I mean, it's also

totally plausible that in the middle of a chaotic situation, they pulled a standard waiver out and you sent it to people.

Definitely plausible.

As long as they're correcting it, again, this is a bad situation.

They're going to have to deal with the consequences of this.

All you can expect out of them at this point is to do what they can to make these people's lives a little bit better.

And hopefully they're stepping them in.

seem to be doing that.

They told us in this phone call they are there for the long haul and they are not going to abandon the community.

And we will continue to watch that and make sure that they are held to their word.

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I'm going to be on with Megan Kelly on Sirius XM,

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Look forward to having a conversation with her today.

I'm sure we're going to be sure we're going to be talking about Ohio

and we're going to be talking,

I think, a little bit also about the national divorce that happens to be trending right now.

If you missed my podcast this morning, you can get it.

The first hour of today's podcast is on that subject.

And I think it's extremely important.

And I lay out the case constitutionally for

what has to be done.

Okay, so we're still waiting for President Biden to come out and speak.

I don't know.

Poland.

Poland is where I'm supposed to be.

I don't know.

And maybe he's in the Netherlands, but he's supposed to speak about the Ukrainian war with the Polish people, and they have him out almost like a Brandenburg gate speech.

Do you have any

reason to rush him back?

I mean, there's, look, he's an older gentleman.

It's seeing the world is important as you get older.

Maybe you tour a little bit.

Why not look around Europe?

Check out the sites.

You know, go really wherever you want.

I mean, I wouldn't mind it if, you know, Jill was like, where did we put that president?

Where did he go?

Is it in my other suit?

I wouldn't mind if he just kind of

wandering around looking at fountains and monuments.

Aren't you the president?

Oh, my gosh, it is you.

He would have to actually come up with a clear answer.

No, I don't know what you're talking about.

Oh.

Yet he is the guy on the list from the Washington Post, the number one presidential candidate.

I don't want to ruin the countdown, but I will say that one's pretty obvious considering he's actually currently serving as president.

How bad this bench is

for the Democrats.

We'll go into that here in just a minute.

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This is already being heralded as the most important speech since Kennedy

went to

Berlin.

And only,

only,

slightly more important

than Ronald Reagan standing at the Brandenburg Gate saying, Mr.

Gorbachev, tear down this wall.

We don't know what the president is about to say to the people of Poland the one-year anniversary of the Ukrainian war.

I'm, who's with me?

I'm rooting for, Mr.

Putin, tear up that nuclear arms treaty.

I've

he already did that.

Oh, so

he's an hour of this speech already.

Already.

He's gotten rid of that pesky nuclear arms treaty.

Yeah, you know, we have no limitation whatsoever on our or Russia's nuclear.

It's all gone.

Wow.

Now, again, you kind of remember the Reagan years, remember them working hard to have limitations on this.

Even though Russia is not really a trustworthy partner in such negotiations over the years, we have at least had that to point to all the way up until now.

Well,

I mean, we didn't, because wasn't there a big deal about Barack Obama?

Yeah, yeah.

I love this.

This is from Michael Tracy.

He's a journalist.

He says, Putin just announced the suspension of the new start,

new start, which is the treaty, the only remaining nuclear arms control treaty between the U.S.

and Russia.

That seems significant.

Seems significant.

That's kind of, yeah, yeah.

For the first time in decades, there are no limits on either country's arsenal.

Sure to be declared another great diplomatic triumph for the Biden administration.

According to the consensus of the foreign policy community, the Biden administration has done a masterful job with diplomacy over the past year.

Somehow, the tanking of relations with Russia and China to calamitous new lows doesn't factor into this, not to mention Iran and North Korea.

What was called the most tangible foreign policy achievement of Obama's first several years in office has now been blown to bits.

And he highlights a New York Times article talking about the START treaty.

It's a little redundant to call it the START treaty because the last T is treaty.

So I'm saying it's the START treaty treaty, kind of.

You're calling it the START

Treaty.

Yes.

It passed 71 to 26, known as the New START Treaty.

It cements, this is according to the New York Times, cements what is probably the most tangible foreign policy achievement of Obama's first two years in office.

And a big statement from 2010 from

who was then, a person who was then the vice president of the United States,

saying what an important and significant achievement this is for the the Obama administration, of course, written by a man named Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.

What did he say exactly?

He said, today the Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted to approve the new START Treaty with a strong bipartisan majority.

I congratulate Senator Kerry and Luger and all the members of the committee for their hard work and their thoughtful review.

There's no question.

that the new START Treaty, once it takes effect, will protect our security and make the world a safer place.

So if you use that logic and reverse it here, because that's now been gone, we are now a more unsafe place and we are not protecting our security.

Wow.

That's according to the guy who's going to tell you what a wonderful president he is here in just a while.

You know what?

I have to tell you, at least he's consistent.

All of his moves have made us less safe.

We're less safe than we were and more unstable.

So

at least

he's not surprising us with doing something competent every once in a while.

That would be confusing.

It would be.

Right?

You know, just not even competent, just something that fell into the favor of the United States of America.

Right.

You'd think if you're just flipping a coin every once in a while it would come up the stars and stripes.

It doesn't.

But it does not.

It doesn't.

He went on to say this treaty would further improve our relationship with Russia and enable us to deepen our cooperation on a host of key issues.

This has worked out well, as well as

further demonstrate America's leadership and efforts to prevent nuclear proliferation and nuclear terrorism.

The president and I believe the full Senate should give this agreement the same broad bipartisan support, which it eventually did get, 71 to 26.

And he goes on and blabs about it for a while.

It's interesting, you know, and this guy who Michael Tracy is a journalist, but he's no fan of Donald Trump's either.

He's critical of Trump as well.

But it really does show that there is this weird thing that has been assigned to Biden

really since he was named vice president, that he has some level of expertise on foreign relations.

And, you know, he was VP for eight years, president.

Now we're going to his third year as president.

Have you seen even a glimpse of this expertise on display anywhere in any of these issues?

Yeah.

Everything he's touched has turned to crap over and over and over again.

Okay, so I want to give you a little bit of history

because people are comparing this to World War II.

And I think this is more like World War I.

And I'll explain.

In World War II, Neville Chamberlain, he was the prime minister of England.

He went over to meet the Führer and say, Well, you're not going to, I'm telling you, please don't go in and

march through Poland.

And he's and Hitler's like, I don't have any intention of doing that.

And so when he arrived back home, he said there'll be peace in his day.

But he also wrote this nice little letter.

This is an actual copy of the letter from Neville Chamberlain to the Hitler youth.

In it, he talks about meeting this the wonderful Fuhrer, and you are definitely the future of Germany.

Okay.

So.

Definitely the future.

Future.

Definitely the future.

Okay, so that's how wrong he was.

Also, there is this, and this is extraordinarily rare.

This is while Hitler was talking about, I have no designs on Poland.

What are you talking about?

I don't want to go into Poland.

Who's talking about going into Poland?

While he was saying that, for that year,

he had made this plan and then sent it.

This is a top-secret copy of the Third Reich

and the military plan filled with all of the plans.

Here are all the maps and the plans.

And this is the step-by-step plan to take over

Poland.

They had every,

yes, they had plans to, these are the actual, it wasn't like, hey, we're talking about it.

We're not even talking about it.

No, no, no, no.

They actually had the plan

already in the hands of their military leaders.

Top secret.

Okay, so that's what everybody is thinking this war is really all about.

But it's actually a combination of a couple of things.

Yes, we don't want to be Neville Chamberlain and dismiss Vladimir Putin.

True.

He might have designs.

We know many of his aides have designs, but also many of the people around him do not want that.

So

is he a madman like Hitler?

Well, we know he throws people off the buildings.

You know, you disagree with him, he kills you.

So he's got that going in his madman favor.

And we know that he would like to take Ukraine and expand the former Soviet Union.

So he would take back

all of those territories, like Poland.

Reasonable.

But we also are dealing with a Neville Chamberlain who instead of a dove is a hawk.

Neville Chamberlain was an idiot.

He was an idiot.

Okay?

I would say our president has been an idiot when it comes to foreign policy.

So I don't want him really in charge.

It was a good thing Winston Churchill was there to take charge of things after we found out who Hitler was.

This is the better comparison.

You have people in World War I, Fabian socialists, all over Europe and in the United States, but mainly in England, that designed World War I.

They knew that if they could just get a European theater and they could roll through it,

they wouldn't put Marxism in, but they would put their own socialist ideas in.

The Fabian socialists would be able to control.

They just needed to topple a lot of things that had been built for centuries.

So they had designs on a war because they already had their plans of what

you know, Europe should look like and how it should run.

Very much like the World Economic Forum today.

And And you had leaders all over the world that bought into that plan and were egging it on, wanted it to happen.

So when there was the flashpoint, everybody went in.

What happened?

Millions died.

They did topple governments.

But it set the

table

for World War II.

Because these guys were so arrogant that they put the thumbscrews to Germany, instead of showing any kind of mercy, they thumbscrewed them.

And that caused resentment, caused poverty,

instability at a time when this crazy man called Hitler was coming up amongst the ranks.

We have to understand that there are people that we deem good guys, or at least on our side, that may be on our side, kind of, but they're not looking at the same situation that we are.

They're looking for a different outcome.

So we have to be careful when we look at the World War II analogy.

Is this World War II or is this the buildup of World War I?

President Biden has just taken the stage in Poland, reminding people that NATO is more unified than ever.

And Putin thought we would roll over, but we wouldn't.

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This is the Glenn Beck program.

The president is now speaking to Russia, saying we're not

if Russia stopped trying

Ukraine to destroy Russia, it would end the war.

If Ukraine stopped defending itself against Russia, it would be the end of Ukraine.

That's why together we're making sure Ukraine can defend itself.

The United States has assembled a worldwide coalition of more than 50 nations to get critical weapons and supplies to the brave Ukrainian fighters on the front lines.

Air defense systems, artillery, ammunition, tanks, armored vehicles.

The European Union and its member states have stepped up with unprecedented commitment to Ukraine.

Not just in security assistance, but economic and humanitarian refugee assistance and so much more.

To all of you here tonight, take a moment.

And I'm serious when I say this.

Turn around and look, turn around and look at one another.

Look at what you've done so far.

Poland is hosting more than 1.5 million refugees from this war.

God bless you.

So, in listening to this on the build-up, he talks about the crimes against humanity, how Russia has to be stopped.

If this isn't a build-up to war,

I don't know what it is, Stu.

Yeah, they kept saying, like, this is the first time a president has ever gone to someone else's war and been on the ground there.

Like, he didn't go to Sudan when that that was going on this is the first time this ever happened well this might be an indication that it isn't someone else's war it's our war it feels like our war you'll notice he's the one speaking it's not the german chancellor it's not the polish president and him coming in with closing remarks this is the american president speaking to poland

well that seems like our war

yeah and i don't i don't understand where all the anti-war Democrats have gone.

All gone.

They've all evaporated.

Evapora, gone.

They fought every single war.

It doesn't matter how many times people were being beheaded on camera, they opposed every little bit of it.

And then this thing, this is the one they're in on.

The one where we're

like, look,

there is a, I don't know,

a hawkish view where this really works and we have to push back against Russia.

Some people have made that argument even on the right.

But like the left never was friendly to that type of argument.

No.

And all of a sudden, just on this one, they seem to be in full embrace.

And there is, they're not even oil here.

There is no reason for us.

There's no, remember, it should be in our

national

interest to be able to go in and fight.

There is no national interest.

There is NATO and him not going into, you know,

Poland and

That is certainly within our interest.

He's not in our treaty.

And

we seem to be leading this war, and it sincerely bothers me.

The problem is, this has been made to, oh, so you like Putin?

No, I don't like Putin.

Putin is a ruthless, deadly killer.

Cold-blooded killer.

We know who he is.

Have you heard any talk about who he might be replaced by?

Because the guys coming up behind him might be worse.

Those people are the ones criticizing Putin for not going strong and hard enough in this war.

They're saying, why did you back off?

Why aren't you going for the whole country anymore?

Why didn't you drop our biggest weapons on Ukraine?

That's the criticism coming on Putin in country,

which, again, if he were to lose, we might get somebody better.

It's possible, but I mean, I don't have much faith in that.

We might get somebody worse.

It's almost like when the Fabian Socialists had a problem with a Kaiser.

Maybe the guy behind the Kaiser might feel a little worse.

I stopped at like episode seven.

What happened after that?

I don't know.

I didn't bring in any of it.

I've just been reading the summary.

Something happened after the next season.

That was a true program.