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With AI week ending, Glenn talks with the chief investment analyst for Brownstone Research, Jeff Brown, who gives Glenn a hopeful outlook on the future of AI and humanity as he elaborates on points he made in the most recent episode of "The Glenn Beck Podcast." Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo joins to discuss the future of American national security and President Biden's alleged role in the attack on Russia's Nord Stream pipelines. Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry joins to discuss his state's bill that helps limit children's access to sexually explicit books in public libraries. Sen. Mike Lee joins to discuss the possibility of Biden ordering the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines. Glenn's chief researcher, Jason Buttrill, joins Glenn to discuss the FBI's apparent disdain for Catholicism.
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Also, I wanted to start with some good news.

I wanted to start with really, truly one of my favorite, personal favorite guests.

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He is one of the most brilliant people people I know, and he watches future tech.

His name is Jeff Brown.

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He is a high-tech expert, and he's known for his futuristic predictions.

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I wanted to end our AI week with Jeff Brown.

He is

spot on and very optimistic.

Usually, will that continue?

He's coming in about a half hour, but I've got this podcast that we did yesterday that I want to play a few things that are, I think, positive.

Things that,

you know, what is around, just around the corner, literally just around the corner, that give you hope

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So artificial intelligence has made tremendous strides in just the last three months and even the three weeks.

AI bots like ChatGPT are only the beginning.

If you have ever tried the

search site Bing,

right?

You don't have to ask Jeeves.

It sucks.

It doesn't suck now.

Like this this week, all of a sudden it's like, whoa, wow, that's good.

How did Microsoft and Bing do that?

Chat GPT.

We have Jeff Brown in studio in about a half an hour, but on the podcast that was released yesterday afternoon for Blaze TV subscribers, it's up on Blaze TV today, and it will go out as my podcast for Saturday,

wherever you get your podcast.

He joined me to talk about predictions about the future right around the corner.

And he gives me a preview of technology that is going to change our life.

And he said, there is one thing

that is happening by the end of the year, I think he said, that will totally change everyone's life.

And when I asked him to compare it to the iPhone, his answer is fascinating.

It is a digital assistant.

Now, imagine an assistant that,

you know, is on your phone and it's listening to everything you say.

I know, I know it gets freaky, but it's listening to everything that you say.

It reads all of your emails.

It listens to all of your phone calls.

And it knows you.

It's not like clippy, okay?

It actually knows you.

It comes preloaded on your phone with all of the information that Apple and everybody else has gathered on you.

Your phone can come preloaded with all of your preferences.

And then it learns quickly as you're setting it up.

Okay, he's preference of this and this and this.

And then over the next couple of weeks, it learns everything about you.

So you get up in the morning and your phone just doesn't have a list of things to do.

Your phone says your assistant and it will be an audio assistant as well, not just like a little chat.

And it will say things like, hey, I noticed that you are really stressed out.

You and your wife had a hard time last night.

Have you thought about getting away?

And you would have been thinking about, I just got to get a couple of days away.

My wife and I, we just need to get out.

Well, I want you to know, you know, your favorite hotel.

They're having a discount, and I worked out a special deal, and I even have the airfare, or, you know, I've already charted the course for the trip.

Do you want me to pull the trigger on this?

Because I've rearranged your schedule so you can do it.

It knows everything and can take care of everything.

All of the things, this is, as I said to him, this is almost like the washer and dryer.

when our grandparents or great-grandparents were beating stuff on the rocks and then

my grandmother i remember she had still in her basement one of the original washing machines with the ringer up at the top and it was just an open tub

that saved

so much time

that Women didn't have to worry about any of that.

It saved them hours and hours and hours just by being able to throw it in the washing machine.

This is the kind of thing that is like refrigeration or washing machines that will totally change your life.

And he says it's it's coming within the next 12 months.

I want you to listen to a little bit of this.

Tell me in the next year, what are the things that are coming out that excite you and would excite the average person going, wait a minute, what?

We can, what's coming?

Yeah, yeah.

The biggest one, the one that will be most tangible to all of us will be our, let's just call it a personalized digital assistant.

Just because the impact that it will have on our lives will be so significant and so meaningful.

We will

feel

an immediate change in how we interact with the computer in our hand.

Name, tell me, when you talk about these things, compare them to the impact of the iPhone, meaning

Everyone says, oh, I can't, no, I can't live without my iPhone.

I mean, it's insane.

13 years ago, we all lived without an iPhone.

Now you will not surrender that.

So that personal assistance compared to an iPhone,

how significant is that?

I think

the attachment to that will be even more significant

than the smartphone.

Will you know

I'm fascinated by the idea of the loss of free will.

When you have something listening to you all the time, it is trying to make your life better, but it's also a product.

And it's suggesting, it's listening to you, and it's suggesting.

I mean, you get to a point to where you're like, I don't know chicken and the egg.

I don't know if that was my idea or if that was somebody, you know, or some algorithm's idea.

Yeah, yeah.

yeah.

So it depends on who's behind the curtain.

Right?

So I haven't found many good guys behind curtains.

It's,

you know, one of the first things that

I ask whenever I'm looking at anything is, you know, where's the monetary incentive?

Like, what's the business model?

So

Facebook, Google, let's take them as an example.

These are advertising companies.

They collect data and they sell access to the data to generate advertising revenues.

It's a very simple simple model, right?

When you see these companies talk about what they do, it's all magnanimous.

They're making incredible contributions to society.

They're connecting everyone everywhere for free.

For free.

We're the good guys.

But, yeah, so if the business model of the company that's offering the artificial intelligence is advertising, then we cannot and should not trust

what we're being told to do.

because that tells us that products are being sold through this AI that very much feels to us is so natural, so comfortable.

It's so useful to us.

So I think we really came to some

understanding on what has to happen with AI.

And chatbot GPT is the beginning of something that will allow you to control it, but you have to take back all of your information and and privacy.

And you can, if somebody will build like a chat GPT that I can use, that is mine, that is yours, and your information stays secure with you, then you're in a different world.

We talked to him also a little bit about what are the things that are significant that are happening right now that nobody's really talking about.

There was a remarkable research paper that was just published a few days ago on February 1st.

It came out of DeepMind.

So this is the AI group that Google acquired in 2014.

From England, yeah.

They did AlphaGo, beat all the best human Go masters.

They did AlphaFold, which predicted more than 200 million how proteins fold.

Remarkable, one of the grand challenges of life sciences, and this was a computer scientist that did this, right?

They just put out a paper that has incredible real-world implications, and that is

they combine the large language models that we've been talking about, so this body of knowledge,

with something called

reinforcement learning, which is another form of artificial intelligence.

And they gave it tasks.

Now, what's interesting about this is the large language models are these big neural networks.

You take in massive amounts of information, you synthesize this information, you optimize it, you gain confidence or a weight in certain outcomes, and then it produces an output that hopefully you can trust.

Reinforcement learning is actually really good at dealing with complex tasks that aren't predefined.

And so you mentioned AGI a little bit earlier.

This is a critical element of AGI.

So what's neat about the painting...

Is this any part of the Boston Dynamics robot where the guy says, I don't have my tools and just

a bit of a PR stunt, but

we'll get there.

It's still impressive.

Very impressive.

The reinforcement learning, though,

has the ability to be given a task and then figure out how to solve that task in an optimal way without any pre-given instructions.

Wow.

And they prove two things.

One is that it works.

This feedback loop, this combination of these large language models models with reinforcement learning actually produces results.

The AI, the combination of these AIs, can perform complex tasks.

That it had no instruction on that.

It had no instruction on how to do, right?

The second thing is,

the larger the language model,

the larger the foundational knowledge that it has,

the better the performance was.

Now, it's becoming very cheap to train these large language models.

I mean,

measured in the millions, not the hundreds of millions.

This paper has shown how to cross that line between

kind of the world of software and the real world that has to interact with humans.

So the chat, you know, you're still kind of in the software, right?

You're still this.

If we take that technology and we put it into a robot,

we give the robot intelligence.

And then that robot can perform tasks that it doesn't have to be specifically trained to do.

We get into

whether real

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The one thing I did ask him, I said, what is

there a game-changing thing that's happening right now?

And he said, yeah, right now.

He said, in the next 60 days, something that changes absolutely everything

is happening.

In fact, there's a story in the paper about it today, and most people won't even read it.

They just aren't, ah, it's game-changing.

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All right, so there is one more piece, and then Jeff's coming in because I ended the interview with, so are you an optimist or a pessimist?

Because this stuff that he's talking about is game-changing.

But I'm watching the chat online from YouTube and Blaze, and

you get it.

You're like, oh, really?

It listens to you all the time.

I don't think so.

And his answer was fascinating and I wanted him to come on and expand on that answer just a little bit.

So he'll be on here in a second.

But

let me share with you what he said about something that changes everything

in the next really 60 days, most likely.

One of the most incredible things that will happen this year, in fact, we're weeks away.

The launch.

SpaceX will launch the Starship.

I know.

Now.

Are you going?

I'm trying to talk to anybody to be able to get.

Well, you're a little closer than not him, but I'll be jealous if you get to go.

That's amazing.

Yeah,

first orbital flight of the Starship.

Now, and this is, if I'm not mistaken,

this is slightly bigger than the Atlas V, the biggest rocket we've ever made.

It's unlike

anything, anything, anything that's ever been sent to space.

It's extraordinary.

But the best part, so let's just think economics here.

This is where it gets really exciting.

So before SpaceX built its Falcon 9 rocket, which is, you know,

61 launches in 2022, sets a record.

A single company does 61 launches in a single year.

And we don't even talk about it.

We don't even talk about it.

Remarkable.

Transformed the entire aerospace industry.

Before the Falcon 9 came along, it used to cost roughly somewhere between $50,000 and $55,000 per kilogram to get payload into space, into orbit.

Oh my gosh.

Per kilogram.

Oh my gosh.

2.2 pounds, right?

Yeah.

50 to 55,000.

All right.

Falcon 9 comes on, roughly, roughly $4,000 a kilogram payload into space.

Like 90% of the cost of getting payload into orbit, gone.

One company, one rocket.

That's how transformational the Falcon 9 was.

But here it is.

What happens with the Starship?

The Starship can get payload into space, into orbit, for $100

a kilogram.

Oh my gosh.

Yes.

97.5%

less cost.

to get payload into space.

So you got it.

Wow.

We can do anything now.

If you need to ship up a compact nuclear fusion reactor into orbit to get it to the moon

for a manned moon permanent presence on the moon or on Mars,

you can do it with that.

Starship is the key to everything.

Wow.

It will transform yet again the industry.

That's how meaningful and significant this single event is this year.

See, I knew it was significant, and I said to my kids, I'm like, we are going.

I don't don't care if we have to stay at a little hotel across the water because I watched the last

space shuttle takeoff.

And

I just know in my bones, this one is game-changing.

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We welcome now to the program Jeff Brown.

I'm sorry, Jeff, I thought you were coming in.

I'm glad we have you on the phone.

On the phone.

I'm hearing talk back a bit.

Okay, so Jeff, we played a bunch of the really positive stuff that's coming our way, but I ended the interview asking you if you were a pessimist or optimist, because

this is the best of times.

This is the worst of times.

This technology is the greatest

tool authoritarians have ever had by far, and it could enslave the entire world.

First, is that that hyperbole?

And if not,

are you

optimistic or pessimistic and why?

Well,

I wish I could say it's it's not hyperbole.

It's the worst case scenario is absolutely

a possibility.

We can't discount that.

And ignoring it would be, I think, even more dangerous for us.

But perhaps history may be a good guide.

As we think back over the last 100 years, for example,

we've always been faced with new technologies that were highly disruptive and could certainly be used for ill will.

But so far, the world, society,

has found a way to continually bring out more and more abundance

for the world to lift billions of people

out of poverty

and increase the quality of life and living for the entire planet.

And so we have very good reasons to be optimistic about managing through this

next transition in terms of employing these incredible technologies.

So I would feel like we, you know, nuclear weapons that could have killed everybody on the planet 100 times over and killed the planet.

But we didn't because there was, we have common decency and intelligence.

However,

I don't feel like this is the 1950s where you have to talk about it and talk about it in a rational way, you know, the threats of nuclear war and what it means, like Eisenhower said, the military-industrial complex.

I see,

as we spoke about yesterday, I don't see a lot lot of good guys that have global power and are in governments.

I don't see the Winston Churchills that are like, no, no, no, wait a minute.

That belongs to people.

That's a dramatic difference, isn't it?

I agree with that.

And

perhaps another framework for us to

consider that is that

nuclear weapons,

they're hardware, right?

They're

ICBMs, they're rockets, like we can count them, we can figure out where all of the silos are located, we can determine how much uranium is being enriched, and we can kind of assess the threat level and how much of it is out there.

But with artificial intelligence, this is a completely new framework.

It's software.

It's nearly impossible to understand

how it's proliferating or how it's being used

by bad actors.

And

you have things like the World Economic Forum, where you've combined big tech, big business, big government,

and authoritarians who are arrogant.

It can't fall into the hands of those guys.

That's correct.

It is

too much.

too much power

to be given to a small group of people who believe that they can make decisions on behalf of all of us.

You've done a couple of things.

You're working on, you're looking for

people that will

run a company that would actually take like these chat GPT and take AI

and make it so it is personal so it can fight against

you know the

the

the the chat GPT that's owned by Google or Apple or whoever and it actually protects the individual

is that possible to do this

It absolutely is.

And I think there's even

a way to do it in a way way that it does not become politically

polarizing.

You and I yesterday we explored the idea of,

let's just creating an objective

large language model that can be improved or enhanced, desired on the learner or the individual's or the group's particular

preferences.

By making kind of, let's just call it a core engine, a core artificial intelligence engine, and productizing that, and then allowing that engine to be customized with additional inputs as determined by, again, the individual, the learner, the group, you know, even a country perhaps could find value in that so that it's

contextually relevant, so that it's socially relevant, culturally relevant, given whatever the needs of those individuals or groups actually are.

And that could be done

without the kind of

data surveillance models that are employed by the Googles and the Facebooks of this world.

When you look at the surveillance models, I asked you, and we never even got to this, but I asked you about WAMI.

I was reading about

what does that stand for again,

wide angle

motion imagery.

And the way it's being used, for instance, in China, is terrifying.

I mean, there is no escape at any time from being monitored, predicted,

moved,

you know, recorded.

I mean, it is terrifying.

And whammy is starting to spread over the globe, is it not?

We have whammy.

It is.

Well, you know,

the most prominent country historically has been the UK, right?

Right.

In terms of the number of cameras and video surveillance of a population, it's really quite extraordinary what's happened in the UK.

But you're absolutely right.

Obviously,

the geography of China is much greater, so it's a harder problem to solve.

But it's just infrastructure.

And it's not just what's become more interesting.

We talked about how the aerospace industry has really been transformed by SpaceX lowering the cost of launching kilograms to orbit by more than 90%.

That's resulted in a proliferation of companies that launch

basically CubeSats or small satellites that are used for imagery from space.

This is think about this as almost a complement or a supplement to cameras and video surveillance surveillance on the ground.

These data sets, these video inputs, are literally ingested into

machine learning and forms of artificial intelligence to determine whether something is or isn't wrong

as defined or programmed by whoever the overlords are.

that feel that they need to monitor their entire population.

So yes, this,

what technology can do, the problem previously wasn't the video cameras, it was how to analyze and ingest and provide actionable intelligence from all of the video.

Humans can't possibly do that.

It has to be automated, and the way it's automated is through machine learning and artificial intelligence.

I wanted to talk to you, we've got about three minutes left.

I want to talk to you about Project Perceptron.

This is a system that you and your team have built, and it revolves around cryptocurrency.

Can you explain what's coming in about 60 days?

Well, or no, what's coming?

I mean, it is launched, but it's not.

Is it operable now?

Yes, I've been running

I built my own artificial intelligence, a deep neural network.

And we took a very kind of obscure data set, which is cryptocurrencies, digital assets, and we built it in a way where it's able to predict price movements.

So it predicts assets with that will rise in price within a specific time horizon within 60 days.

It's been an amazing project.

It was an interesting way to apply artificial intelligence to the investment markets and I've actually been developing that even further to identify price movements in equities or stocks, which is something that

I'll be actually doing within the next thirty or sixty days that I'm very

excited about.

It's incredible technology because it can ingest an unbelievable amount of information and synthesize it and then be highly predictive

in terms of price direction.

And how has it worked out with the cryptocurrency?

Well, last year, 84% of its recommendations were profitable.

So

in the world of trading, those types of numbers are pretty incredible.

And

what is your feeling on cryptocurrency,

its life

with Britain just last week, or was it this week, saying that they are launching their own

Bank of England central bank cryptocurrency, and we're right behind them?

We are.

We've been in a very antagonistic

policy environment for digital assets of all kinds.

And I believe that that's been done on purpose.

I believe that the U.S.

government has been holding the whole industry back, at least in the United States,

because they want to carve out their role in this space, specifically the U.S.

dollar, central bank-backed digital currency, an e-dollar, whatever we call it.

And I think we're in for a very big surprise in the coming months.

The Federal Reserve Bank of Boston had collaborated with MIT last year year and finished a major project, Project Hamilton, I'm sure you know.

Oh, yeah.

And that work was just wrapped up.

And I believe that they are gearing up for the launch of this digital currency,

digital wallet for

all Americans.

And once that happens, once they've defined exactly what role they're going to play, then I think the regulatory environment will open up for the entire blockchain industry and for other digital assets.

They were threatened by stablecoins in particular.

And

once they've settled that and settled their role, then I'm actually optimistic and bullish about the industry moving forward once that happens.

Really?

You don't think they're going to try to trap all of us?

Because, I mean, once they have control, digital control of every dollar that is ever

traded,

they have complete control of people.

The risk, the risk, given whatever the prevailing political narrative is, is this

social credit system similar to what's being employed in China.

That's my biggest fear.

Because the digital wallet

can very quickly turn into

a means of control

of your money and your life and your actions and your behaviors.

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The World Economic Forum is pushing something called battery passports.

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We have about a minute and a half, two minutes.

Okay.

You know,

this is

an odd initiative.

You know, the idea is that there is essentially this body, this organization that facilitates the installation of a small module into every electric vehicle that can independently monitor

the battery usage.

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it's an odd, odd initiative because this is typically the realm of the manufacturer.

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It seems, Jeff, the word passport

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little possible tell.

Jeff, we're out of time.

Thank you so much.

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The things that he and Donald Trump accomplished on the world stage, especially with every gun and

intelligence agency, every global leader and every dictator wanting to stop them and shut them down, what they accomplished is

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Mike, how are you, sir?

Glenn, I'm great.

How are you today?

I'm really good.

I've been looking forward to this.

I hope we find time to sit down for a longer podcast podcast because I promise you, I'll do it.

Okay, good.

I've got so many things for you, but I want to start with something that is in your book that I absolutely love.

When you met Kim Jong-un

in North Korea,

the meeting began with Kim saying what to you?

It was really quite something.

Easter weekend 2018, clandestine mission, Dark Night, flew in, met with Chairman Kim.

I had one colleague with me from the CIA.

And the first thing he says to me, I walk in, there's lots of theater,

and we walk in, and he says, Mr.

Director, I was the CI director at the time.

He said, Mr.

Director, I did not think that you would come since you've been trying to kill me.

Obviously, through a translator.

And I remember, Glenn, you'll appreciate this.

I'd prepared for this.

We'd studied what might he say.

This was not on the bingo cart.

And so I remember I hear the translator.

I pause for just a second and I thought, well, that's pretty tough.

And

I said, Mr.

Chairman, you should know I still am trying to kill you.

Oh, my God.

And

my colleague smiled.

Andy Kim, great guy, smiled.

And then the translation hits him, and he laughed too, which was a very hard thing to make.

Yeah, that's

kind of a...

That's good when you're standing with a dictator who kills people and he's on his turf.

He knew it was tongue-in-cheek a little in the same way that his barb at me was, but I think it also set the course for the relationship that we built over the coming years.

How would you describe the American deep state?

And did you see it in action?

And

what is it exactly?

Oh, Glenn,

yes, I saw it.

It is real.

One can describe it as the deep state or the resistance.

Here's what it really is.

Here's how I came to experience this.

Really at the State Department, left at the agency, to be honest with you.

It is a left-of-center, left-of-left, perhaps left-of-center bureaucracy that is deeply of Washington, D.C., deeply establishment.

And so when you have someone like President Trump or me who says, those didn't work, we're going to try it a different way.

We're going to take a little more risk.

We're going to defend America first.

Oh, my gosh, Glenn, it was a mess.

They resisted what we did.

They undermined.

They would leak memos.

I saw memos in the press before they got to my desk, Glenn, so many times.

And this is problematic, not because of me.

It's problematic because that's not what the Constitution requires, not how our founders thought about America.

And so the next president, it's going to take,

it's a boatload of work.

It's going to take a while, but this could be fixed.

How can a president come in, be elected?

Because I'm concerned.

I agree with term limits, but term limits also for people who are serving in Washington, D.C.

in all jobs, all levels.

How How can you clean this up without shutting it down?

And, you know, did you unplug it and plug it back in?

That's pretty much what we have to do.

No,

that's a great analogy.

Yes, unplug it.

You got to break it down.

And by the way, not just the State Department, good parts of the Justice Department, most especially Civil Rights Division, the entire Department of Education.

These places are lost.

And so, yes, the next president, there's two things I'd say.

First, you got to get your team on the field.

One of the things we did not do is we were two years into the administration, and we still had Obama people occupying political positions.

You just, that's just a failure, and we've got to get good at that.

The conservative movement has to get good.

Just like we have to collect and harvest ballots, we've got to get good at being fearless about terminating the bad guys and promoting the good guys.

And then, second, big, deep structural reforms inside these.

And it'll cost political capital, Clint.

I can see why a president would not do that.

You've got a million things.

But this is a lasting change that one can make about how you do hiring, how you get rid of DEI programs.

We had three unions at the State Department.

Glenn, nobody even knows this.

Every one of my career employees was covered by a collective bargaining agreement.

You can't promote merit.

You can't fire those who aren't on the team.

This is a calamity.

But it is fixable.

You put a good team in, you put good cabinet members in, they hire the right folks.

You can clean it up.

It will take years, I'll be honest, because you have to get the feedstock right.

The talent that comes in has to be American patriotic, not about being part of the Washington establishment.

But it is doable with serious and thoughtful effort.

I'm sure you know that I'm one of the chief

conspiracy theorists on the World Economic Forum and the Great Reset.

Do we have a lot of time?

I mean, it is very concerning with tech and the way it seems the entire West

is

throwing in their lot with

a

very authoritarian style

plan.

I'm very concerned about it.

Time is short, not hours, days, weeks, months, but we are on the precipice of heading down the direction.

And Glenn, you know this.

It starts in the schools,

teach kids garbage, you teach kids crap.

If parents don't know what's going on there, the next generation doesn't understand logic, reason,

the things that we know prevent us from being in a liberal, small ill-liberal society that has made America such an exceptional civilizational hero.

We've got to get it right.

It is a collective.

It is in all of our big institutions.

I'm very worried.

I was a soldier a long time ago now.

I'm worried about our military headed down that same path of forgetting what its mission is.

That is an institution that is central to

culturally and from a security perspective.

And when we get these things wrong, Glenn, hard to get back from.

We're talking to Mike Pompeo.

He has a book out that is extraordinarily frank and great.

It's called Never Give an Inch.

He's a former CIA director and former U.S.

Secretary of State.

Let me ask you a couple of questions here.

First of all,

Ukraine.

I mean, I've done enough research on Ukraine and the Biden administration and the Obama administration.

That is deeply corrupt.

I don't mind

aiding and praying for and even helping privately

people who want to be free, but

I'm very concerned where we're going on this because

it appears to me everybody who is in charge is like, yeah, let's go.

Let's go.

We're going to war.

Do you agree with tanks being sent over and offensive weaponry?

Glenn, I actually do, but

not for the reason that some have articulated.

Your predicate there is exactly spot on, and I talk about this a little in the book, and you're right.

It's a pretty wide open

document.

It's kind of you know me long enough, Glenn.

I just this is how I think about something.

Not for the reasons often articulated.

Ukraine's got huge corruption problems, but my concern is about the American people.

We lost deterrence, right?

You know, Vladimir Putin didn't invade Europe on our watch.

He took a fifth of Ukraine under Obama.

He went at it again as soon as we left under Biden.

We cannot allow him to continue to roam about Europe freely.

The innocent civilian lives are tragic, but there's an American interest there.

And I think we can do this.

He hasn't asked for our kids yet.

We shouldn't send our young men and women.

He didn't want the 82nd airborne.

He's just asking us to provide him with tools and capabilities.

And that's the quickest way to bring this to a conclusion.

And the quicker it concludes, the less likelihood that Putin does something really dumb that draws the whole world into this damn thing, which is a real danger.

And, you know, I spent a fair amount of time with Vladimir Putin.

I'm more concerned about it than others.

I think he is not going to go quietly into the night.

So, if we can get the Ukrainians what they need, they're prepared to have their own kids fight and die.

That's something that matters to every American, and we ought to try and get it right there.

So, I

Mike Lee spent a lot of time yesterday looking at the Seymour Hirsch article and trying to track down.

He's coming on the air in about an hour to tell me what he found.

He said initially he was disturbed because he didn't believe it, but he also kind of did.

I mean, he didn't, he was, he said, and I hate to put words in his mouth, but he was like,

these are the kinds of things that now we do need to actually seriously question because these kinds of things could happen.

But he didn't think it was true.

As former CIA director, the Nord Stream pipeline,

do you think we had anything to do with that at all?

Let me begin by saying, I don't know.

I don't have access to that kind of information any longer.

But see, that's what Mike was saying.

He was disturbed that he

should have access.

He's a United States senator.

He should have access to that.

I'm glad he's going to go suss it out and figure out what happened there.

I'll say this.

Joe Biden wouldn't shoot down a balloon over Montana.

The chance he would blow up a pipeline that belonged to the Germans seems low to me.

It seems out of character.

Good.

Okay.

But goodness, we should figure it out.

Look,

I think it's more likely than not that the Russians actually did this.

I've read the piece.

There are a couple comments from Victoria Newland, who works at the State Department,

who worked at the State Department, and from the President himself.

They're kind of odd statements, so we should go figure it out.

But my sense is if I was, if you made me take my own money, I think this was a Russian operation aimed at denying energy to what they thought would be a cold winter in Europe that just hasn't panned out.

And the spy,

Chinese spy balloon.

I mean, we spent a million dollars on a rocket to shoot it down with a $40 million plane.

And then what are they saying?

They're saying, oh, yeah, well, it was not a risk.

Well, then why do we shoot it down?

I mean,

what is this?

They've dissembled since the beginning.

This was a spy operation by the Chinese Communist Party.

They were clearly collecting at least imagery pictures, probably

signals too, trying to listen to what was going on.

And they were also testing our air defenses and finally they're testing President Biden to see what he would do and you know I someone asked me yesterday would this have flown over America that way for five days under the Trump administration and I said yes and I would have been the former Secretary of State very quickly

so

so and it was funny Glenn you remember they came out and first said oh this happened under Trump and we all came out and said no it didn't you know I guess we were all just smoking dope right

come on and the truth of the matter is that we know they lied.

No one knew about this before.

This was a blunder on their watch.

Not so much about the collection.

Okay, that's some risk.

But Xi Jinping now is confident that he can push this president around.

And

that deterrence model that we had, Glenn, that was so important to the American people.

When you lose that,

you create space.

What's the old Southwest Airlines line?

Feel free to move about the cabin.

I think the bad guys are feeling pretty damn free to move about the cabin.

And if you live in Arizona or Tennessee or Montana, that creates an awful lot more risk to your kids and grandkids.

Is

China the risk I think it is?

And

is it

how much of a role does the business dealings of the Biden administration or Biden and his family have to do with giving China a pass on so much?

Boy, I don't know if that's the motivation for their failure to confront this greatest threat to the United States, the Chinese Communist Party.

It could be we should get to the bottom of everything that's on that laptop and figure out where the leverage might be from the Chinese Communist Party on not just President Biden, but lots of folks in his administration who are doing lots of business in China before they came into office.

I mean, Mitch McConnell is a big one, too.

Mitch McConnell.

By the way, totally not partisan.

Get this right for America.

This isn't about D's and R's or, you know, putting on the yellow helmet or the blue helmet.

This is about protecting protecting the United States.

And they're inside our institutions all across America.

I know they are.

Inside our universities,

a massive spy operation being run out of the consulate in Houston, Texas that I shut down.

And we've let it go on for years.

If we get a chance to do the podcast, I'd love to spend more time because my fear from the Chinese Communist Party isn't about something that might happen in Taiwan or Japan or Vietnam.

It's what's happening inside the gates here, and every American should be aware of it, and we should protect ourselves.

And we can, and we can be successful, and I believe we will.

I see no evidence this president's prepared to do that.

Well, Mike, I appreciate your time, and we will, I'll have my office reach out to yours today, and let's book some time on a podcast because we'll make it happen.

God bless you.

A lot of information.

Thank you so much.

God bless.

Thank you, sir.

You bet.

Former Secretary of State and former CIA director and author of the book, Never Give an Inch, Mike Pompeo.

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he has been following all the things that are going on.

former intelligence, military intelligence, and head writer and researcher of the Glenbeck program.

What'd you think of Pompeo's answers here?

He's so candid about everything.

I like how it's really like him.

I do too.

It's like nothing is out of bounds.

I heard something, maybe I'm just overanalyzing when he was talking about the Chinese spy balloon.

And he eventually, the last couple of things he said that were really important is gauging reaction.

You know, that's what the Chinese were doing to Biden.

I think that's...

straight 100% dead on.

Oh,

that's what I said.

What intelligence are they gathering intelligence?

I said, yeah, the most important intelligence they're gathering is, can we penetrate their airspace and have them not do anything about it?

Exactly right.

And also, it's a nation of faith, you know, saving face, you know, honor.

This made Biden look stupid.

It really did.

And this thing now, I'm looking up on the TV and it was talking about how, you know, there was antenna on there for signals intelligence.

And I guarantee you, the NSA is cracking up right now.

Do we really think China needs a hot air balloon, 1700s technology to put a radio antenna to gather signals intelligence?

I mean, right now, there's an NSA analyst at Fort Meade who's currently deciding whether he's going to listen to the cell phone of somebody in Iraq or his girlfriend's cell phone to see if she's, you know, running around behind his back, which he suspects he's cracking up.

What should I do with my work time?

He doesn't need a hot air balloon to have that capability.

He has the capability to do both.

And China does.

When he said, and you hear this too, when he said,

you know, they were listening in on communications, The way it was posed was they were listening in on all kinds of communications and cell phones and what people were saying on the ground.

That's ridiculous.

Yeah.

Right?

Well, yeah, I mean, you can do that.

But why would you?

Why would you when you'd have the better capability to do it, you know, in another way?

I mean, it's just ridiculous.

I have finally, when they finally dig up this wreckage, I have

to suspect they're like, I'm not going to dig up the wreckage.

Even if they did, it'd be like pictures of Xi Jinping, you know, like give him the bird.

There's no way they're down with scuba gear, you know, looking.

Why?

What are you looking for?

The missile hit the little metal box.

I mean, if that box wasn't obliterated with a million-dollar missile, then

I have a feeling we've been ripped off with our missiles.

Good heavens.

They're down undersea now, looking for sifting through the sands to see if they can find any.

Yeah, yeah, they're going to find a big reel-to-reel tape recorder there.

Unbelievable.

Thank you so much, Jason.

We have so much to cover yet.

Next hour, I'm going to tell you the story about what is going on with

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There was some stuff released yesterday from the FBI, memos

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He's also running for governor of Louisiana.

He is currently

in the lead, the favorite.

And, I mean, it would be, I think, another

Ron

DeSantis kind of

governor, hopefully, because Jeff is a very strong Attorney General.

Hi, Jeff.

How are you?

Clin, great, great, great great to be with you and all your listeners out there.

I really appreciate it.

And yeah, you're right.

You know, there's only three states in play this year,

which I think is a big year.

You know, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Kentucky, both Kentucky and Louisiana have Democrat governors.

And so here in Louisiana, we're trying to do our part to put the governorship back in a conservative hands.

Right.

You just released some,

you released something this week on protecting kids from the libraries, from the explicit books in the libraries.

Can you tell me about this and

how it's going?

Yeah, look, we want to make sure that our libraries are still the place that

the libraries that me and you grew up in, right?

The place where our moms and dads could drop us off and we could go around the library, find books of interest,

and start to really expand our minds.

it's where kids really start to enjoy and see who they are.

And what happened was about six months ago, we started getting calls from parents who were finding books in libraries that were very offensive.

A lot of, you know, I mean, quite frankly, it almost looked like you were, it was like a book of pornography.

And we got concerned.

And so we launched an investigation.

You know, we run an Internet Crimes Against Children task force at the Attorney General's office.

So we see a lot, a lot of bad things and crimes against children.

And so we launched this investigation.

We opened up a hotline so parents could call and tell us what they were finding.

We went, we found some of these books,

and we compiled a report.

And then we released that report this week.

You can go on our website at agjeffandry.com.

That's our official

website.

And if you are 18 years or older, Ben, and

that's how offensive I believe what we found on the shelves was, was that I wouldn't even let this report be read or accessed by anyone that's not that's under 18.

And this report lays it out why,

you know, what we found, and if there are parents out there that believe that children should not be exposed, should not have unfettered access to these types of books, then this is the way under which they can go about ensuring that their library and their community

protects their kids.

And then look, we're seeing this all over.

And quite frankly, I think it's like a desensitization of children.

We're trying to expose children to more and more adult content.

And quite frankly, I think it's harmful.

I really do.

But again, our report gives parents the power to be able to change that policy at their libraries, and that's what we did.

So can you tell me,

how do you defend against people saying, you're book burning, this is, we don't ban books in America?

Yeah, well, anyone who tells me that, I tell him, you go read that report and then call me back.

Because we took, look, the people who compiled that report, we've got some great people that work at the Louisiana Department of Justice, very smart lawyers, mothers, parents, fathers, who helped us compile this report.

And this report has nothing to do with censoring or banning books this is all about

content I mean look think about this friend my Netflix account gives me an opportunity to set put a setting on it so that a young child can get on my Netflix account and watch anything right and me and you when me and you were growing up we went to the cinema if we were under what 17 18 you couldn't get in an R-rated movie.

Okay?

I mean, like, these people that make all these accusations, they're just crazy.

I mean, they really are.

I mean, all they're out there to do is just, you know, it's all gaslighting.

You go,

anyone who says that, I encourage adults out there to look at the things that we found in the library and then ask yourself, do you want a five-year-old, a 10-year-old, or a 12-year-old walking in the library, pulling that book

and seeing the graphics?

And they're clearly made for kids.

They're graphic novels.

Just just go to AGJeffLandry.com and up at the top it says Protecting Innocents.

Click on that link and you'll see the full report and then model legislation as well.

So other states can enact some legislation like this as well.

Jeff, tell me what you're doing about the

the ATF and coming after

pistol braces.

Yeah,

let me tell you,

Glenn, there is no one who appreciates the Second Amendment more than me.

In fact, I tell people it's the Second Amendment that guards the First Amendment.

It is.

Right?

And there's no one out there through our Solicitor General's office in Louisiana.

And look, we've got some great Republican AGs around the whole country that continue to defend the Second Amendment.

We're going to go in there and we're going to challenge ATF, is what we're going to do.

I mean, we've seen, and look, we're good at it.

For listeners out there, you want to check us out?

Louisiana is number one in a number of lawsuits against the Biden administration and winning.

And we don't do it by ourselves.

We're joined by great states like Indiana, Missouri, Arkansas, Florida.

The list goes on and on, Mississippi.

And we're just going to take them to task.

And that's the only thing we can do until Congress actually starts becoming functional.

So do you believe, Jeff, and I've asked

our Texas Attorney General this same question.

Do you believe you'll get action?

Because people are going to be named felons

in, what, it's about 90 days now from now.

And

if you don't do exactly what they said, and so people who own guns that are now, you know, under restriction because they just, with a stroke of a pen, changed the definition,

you could go to prison for 20 years.

When will the gun owner know, okay, you're safe, don't worry?

Well, we're hoping to get an injunction on that.

Ken Paxon's a great attorney general in Texas.

We work with his office.

He's kind of like, you know, Texas is kind of like the 800-pound gorilla in the Republican Attorney General world.

Look, we'll know if we can get the judge to grant us an injunction against it.

And so hopefully we'll get a ruling

on the case.

And the judge and them will say, no, no, no, no, no, you can't charge someone with a felon on this.

This is stepping out a little bit.

Look,

we've seen some great actions by Republican attorney generals over the last

12,

15 years taking on the federal government, protecting people's liberties.

Look, I can tell you, Glenn, it's one of the reasons I really enjoy my job.

I love being the Attorney General.

You know, I spent a term in Congress back in 2010, right?

You remember those days?

Yeah, I do.

The first big revolution.

We tried to warn everybody what was coming.

And what I've realized is that right now, unfortunately, policymaking is being made in the courts.

I don't like it.

It's dysfunctional.

But that's why you got Attorney General.

So we're hoping we can get a federal judge to take a look at this grant injunction.

And then some gun rulers out there and those that are enjoying their Second Amendment can go about

their business.

Jeff, you're running for governor of Louisiana, and I saw a story today taking on the ATF on this

gun rule.

The governor of, I think it was Montana, who said, we're just not going to enforce it.

That's that, I mean, while I appreciate every effort, that can't be the answer, right?

We have to.

I mean, listen, I certainly applaud him

for taking a stand.

Right.

You know,

it shows, I think that what he's doing shows how broken our system has become.

I think that it also highlights the fact that, you know what, look, the states are, the federal government is a byproduct of the Constitution, Glenn.

I mean, the states and the people are who are supposed to be governing us.

That's the independence of it.

The federal government, we had the tail wagging the dog, but no, it's not the answer.

The answer is, number one, to get the courts to strike this down, to get the courts to continue to put the executive back in his sandbox, and then once and for all, hopefully, praying that Congress will start reigning all of this in.

Or the states just basically tell the federal government, look, you're just out of your box.

And we get the courts to agree with that.

And that's what we do.

Every day, Glenn, that's exactly what we do, whether it's a Second Amendment issue, whether it's tackling the EPA who are crushing jobs, increasing inflation, right?

I mean, the price we pay at the pump, I can't tell you the inflationary cost of just what the EPA does and the stranglehold that they've gotten,

pushing back against ESNG,

pushing back against woke corporate boardrooms.

And I'm telling you, it's like a rich-target environment out there.

And it's sad.

Well, I'm glad you're on duty, sir.

I am really glad you're on duty.

And

keep up the good work,

and we'll talk to you again soon.

God bless.

Thank you.

Thank you for what you're doing.

God bless them.

Can't wait to talk to you again soon.

You got it.

Jeff Landry, Louisiana Attorney General.

I'm telling you, it is the attorney generals that are truly changing things.

Governors can do it, but I haven't seen a long list of governors that are moving at the same speed as some of the attorney generals are, even though the attorney generals generally are working with the government, or the governors.

They're not exactly, but

they're teams out there.

Ron DeSantis is just kicking it, and we need all the good governors and attorney generals.

I never paid attention to.

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Well, I got to look at who's our attorney general.

I never,

I never paid attention to that.

You know, as a younger, you're like, I don't know.

That

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You've got to have a strong attorney general that understands the Constitution and the 10th Amendment.

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The video?

This is cut four.

If you happen to be watching, and I'll describe it if you're just listening.

But go ahead and roll this, please.

Hello.

I'm Stephanie Copas-Campbell, Australia's new ambassador for gender equality.

Right.

I'm incredibly honored to take on this role as the lead international advocate for Australia's gender.

family.

Now, if you happen to be watching

the rights of women and girls, she looks like she's out of a horror movie.

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Mike Lee's coming up in just a second.

There was a tweet from Mike

this week, and we'll get to that in a second.

First,

I want to play the video of him at the State of the Union this weekend, or this last week.

Go ahead and roll that, or is that just a film

still?

Okay, so Mike Lee is

Mike Lee is there

in the chambers listening to the president.

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they're talking about Social Security.

And he just has this look on his face like, what the,

what?

What are you even...

It was quite from the guy who

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Any kind of emotion being shown by Mike, who is very well-tempered, was quite stunning.

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the

state of the union.

I'm sorry, the

balloon being,

I'm sorry.

There's so many scandals.

The Ukrainian Nord Stream pipeline being being blown up.

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it's war if it's true, slander if it's not.

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I really don't know.

He spent the day yesterday talking to people and tracking things down.

And he says he has an answer for us on that, or pretty good answer for us.

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It is Friday, America, and we've got a couple of things that we're going to be addressing this hour.

One is, I don't know, did we blow up the Nord Stream pipeline?

Seems like a big deal.

You know, if we did,

did we?

Mike Lee did some homework on this yesterday, and he's going to come and tell us his, give us the results of this.

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I hate being in this position because

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It's nonsense.

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Sure there were.

Sure there were.

But he didn't know plain.

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That's not healthy for a republic.

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Do they actually represent us or their own interests?

We go there with Mike Lee in 60 seconds.

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i'm doing great and it's an honor to be on the phone with the most well-preserved 37 year old on radio

you know mike i uh i i wanted to invite you to my party this weekend but I you know, last time you came, the neighbors called.

I called you 37.

That's a compliment.

So, Mike,

this week has been really,

it taught me something.

I don't, in the end, I don't believe the Seymour Hirsch article.

He's got only one source, and he's got a reputation of, you know, making things up and really only respected by, you know, the far, far left.

But I don't know.

And it

disturbs me that I couldn't out of hand reject that as a nonsense idea.

You feel the same way.

Yeah, yeah, I feel the same way.

I have the same reaction.

That's why when I tweeted it out, I said, if false, slanderous, if true, war.

That's the part that's troubling.

Now, since then, I've had the opportunity to talk to a number of my colleagues, colleagues who have delved deeply into some classified matters across the board.

And

a number of

all of them who expressed an opinion on it

have said that they believe it to be false.

I've asked for a classified briefing on it.

It may take a few days for me to get that set up.

But what this does do is it tees up some questions.

Okay, hang on just a second.

Hang on.

When they said, before you go there, let me ask you, let me clarify.

They said they don't think it's true or they said it's not true.

They said it's not true.

Okay, good.

They affirmatively believe it to be false.

Those who expressed an opinion.

Not all of them had had

had enough information

to really speak to it, but those that did

uniformly said, yeah, this isn't true, and I have reasons for it to believe that it's not true.

But here are some things that kind of linger.

First of all, does President Biden and does the executive branch of government generally in and out of Republican and Democratic administrations, does it believe that it's got the authority to undertake this kind of hostile action without informing Congress?

This is what was so troubling about it: it described in great detail how one would go about it if they wanted to engage in a clandestine military operation, one that could somehow bypass not only a constitutional requirement for a declaration of war or an AUMF, but even notified congressional leaders.

Right.

Explain this, Mike.

There is a gang of eight, which is

represents the Senate and the House,

both Intel committees, right?

And

those eight people are read in at the highest level of anything like this.

But this article from Seymour Hearst said,

yeah,

we can go around that easily.

And laid it out in great detail.

Have you done any work on that to see if that's even possible?

Yeah, so

there are theoretically ways in which they could avoid that.

And if they did, the geopolitical consequences would be enormous.

Enormous.

If in fact this attack was designed to force Europe to end its reliance on Russian natural gas, you know, in order to secure support for the effort against Russia in Ukraine, if they in fact did that, then these consequences would be enormous.

This would be not only a direct attack on Russia, but also an act of hostility that has massive impacts on Germany, on France, spillover ramifications, really all over Europe.

Whole world.

We're talking about millions of Europeans who have had gas supply affected by this disruption.

So if this report were true,

then it would be incredibly troubling, to say the least.

I'll tell you, Mike, there's

that they did in secret and we didn't know.

And when we find out, we correct it,

or at least try to.

But this one, to me, is different than anything I've seen in history.

Because as this came out and I first read it, I thought to myself, good lord, if this is true, our children are going to be fighting a war that none of us had any idea or any participation in any of this stuff.

It's a group of people who have decided they know best and they're committing us to war.

That is so un-American, so against I mean, it felt like, you know what, I would rather have our military go in and march up and get those guys that did all of this and try them than go fight Russia, because I would kind of agree with Russia.

We shouldn't have done that.

No, that's exactly right.

And regardless of how this happened or whether any of this happened at all,

I really would like to know who did it because it's not just anyone who can go out into the ocean

and go deep down

into the ocean and sever multiple pipelines

and then

set it up in such a way that you're not anywhere near the blast zone when the event finally takes off.

Have you talked to anybody?

I'm interested to know who that is.

Have you talked to anybody who knows how many nations could pull something like that off?

Yeah, I've talked to a handful of colleagues who have said that

they can think of some that could have done it.

And it's not something we can talk about outside of a classified environment, but that's part of why I've requested this briefing.

Okay.

But there are

some other suspects that would make sense?

I don't know.

I don't know that I can make sense of it before I know who it is who could even, technologically speaking, pull it off.

So I just had Mike Bompeo on, and he said that he thought it was Russia to drive up the price of oil.

Yeah, okay, so that one is really hard for me to accept.

Remember, Glenn, Russia is pulling in, or has been pulling in, a billion dollars a day.

in natural gas revenue, natural gas revenue that it's selling to Europe.

I believe Germany alone sends them money

along the lines of about a billion dollars a day for their natural gas.

To bite the hand that feeds in so prominent and severe a way, it doesn't really add up.

You never know.

Russia can do some weird stuff.

That one seems to be stretching the imagination a little.

Mike, on the same day that this came out, about two hours later, there was a report from CNN that had security insiders that

found out that we had evidence that Vladimir Putin shot down the Malaysian airliner and that

the missiles came from Russia and that it was tracked to him

saying that they were going to shoot this down.

I found the timing to be extraordinary.

Russia comes out with a story, or Seymour Hearst comes out with a story that we did an act of war, and two hours later,

lo and behold, here is Vladimir Putin committing an act of war.

Is that a

coincidence?

One could argue that it is not.

Look, Vladimir Putin is an evil man.

Oh, yeah, I know that.

He's a megalomaniac.

He is

one who has genocidal ambitions, and his ambitions know no boundaries.

And so I wouldn't put anything past him.

When you look at what

England is doing, training pilots now in Ukraine, that's clearly the next step to receiving planes for them to fly.

Are you concerned at all about the equipment and everything that we're sending over?

That at some point, I mean, I know I would really, at this point, if I was in Russia's shoes, I'd be like, what?

I mean,

you know, who we're really fighting.

It's not the Ukrainians, it's the West.

Look at what they're doing.

So,

is there a point that is a breaking point where

people like you will stand up?

And I know you have already spoken out about a lot of this stuff, but where you're like, no more.

This is it.

This is insane.

Yeah, look,

I believe that we have to tread especially carefully when approaching a nuclear-armed, near-peer geopolitical adversary, which Russia is.

And I believe that

while these are questions of degree, and many people will focus on the difference between defensive weapons and assistance and non-defensive,

I think if we take one step further, we will have obliterated any distinction.

And I think if we're going to take one step further in that direction, we need to have an authorization for the use of military force or a declaration of war.

If it's one day, if we're going to get involved in a war with Russia, I don't want that at all, to be sure.

But if America is going to consider that, it needs to have elected representatives in Congress making that decision.

and not just have it made sort of sideways through appropriations for funding and bold statements by our executives.

I mean, that's why England was in so much trouble by the time we entered World War II.

Congress had blocked any of the sales of stuff.

I mean, it had to go through Congress.

All right, hang on just a second because I want to talk to you a little bit about something that happened at the State of the Union and some things that have now been released with you.

Apparently, Mike.

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Mike, when the president at the State of the Union was talking about defunding Social Security, I loved the look on your face.

The camera looked up to you, and you were just dumbfounded.

You were like,

what is going on here tonight?

First of all, do you have any comment on the speech and how you were feeling that night?

Yeah, I was stunned.

Look, it is my 13th State of the Union that I've attended since I've been at the United States Senate, and I've never seen such

brazen

falsehoods spewed from the President of the United States.

He sat there and accused Republicans, claimed quite falsely that Republicans were saying that they were going to mess with Social Security

in our negotiations over conditions for raising the debt ceiling.

It's just false.

It is categorically false.

And he sat there and said that in front of us, then looked stunned that we took exception to it.

And then after that,

the next day, gave speeches and sent out tweets, tried to make us look like hypocrites, but still demonstrating that he doesn't understand what he's dealing with.

He doesn't even understand the facts that he's trying to raise.

Right.

And so one of the things that they sent out was a clip of you.

We have the clip.

Let's play that, please.

I'm here right now to tell you one thing

that you probably haven't ever heard from a politician.

It will be my objective to phase out Social Security, to pull it up by the roots and get rid of it.

People who advise me politically always tell me that's dangerous and i tell them in that case it's not worth my running

i said to my wife when i heard that she said oh my gosh i can't believe they're saying this about social security and i said yeah i know because if that was really what the republicans were doing i'd want to vote for them uh but we have to take on social security but that doesn't mean leaving old people without any kind of uh uh fulfillment of the promise can you explain this clip

yes absolutely first of all through programs like that, through Social Security in particular.

The government has created a program.

They promised people back in the 30s when they created it, this will be your money, your account, your retirement.

We can't, we won't touch it because it's your money.

It was absolutely false.

They were lying.

They've been lying for decades.

They've been stealing, plundering this Social Security Trust Fund.

They do it all the time.

They've done it.

even just in the years since I've been in the Senate.

So what I was channeling there was the fact that Social Security, as it's been set up, as it's been managed, has really hurt people.

And it's been an act of deception.

What the President, of course, didn't play,

and what you didn't play was the rest of the sentence, the rest of that communication and any other that I've ever had, which was where I said, we of course have to honor the promises of people who have paid into this thing.

You can't just leave them hanging, having been promised.

In other words, it's a long-term objective, one that would take decades to complete because you do have to honor those promises.

But Social Security, as we know it, as it's been raided and plundered, has been used as a tool to take money from Americans, to provide this little slush fund piggy bank for Congress to raid whenever it wants to.

Mismanage and to distribute to other pet progressive priorities, which is awful.

I have to tell you, I'm 59, so I'm just a few years away from Social Security.

I've known my whole life.

Pardon me?

Yeah, I know.

You reached the level of a security.

Right.

Thank you.

I've known my whole life Social Security is going to collapse.

So I haven't counted on it.

Now I'm in a situation where I don't have to count on it.

But if they would have invested my money, I started working when I was eight.

And I started getting an official paycheck when I was 13.

So I've been paying into Social Security for many years.

If my money would have been invested and would have been in stocks, I can't tell you how wealthy I would be today.

And that's really what they promised us they were going to do.

And they didn't.

So now we can't pay for anything.

But there does come a time.

There's not anybody my age that hasn't heard this from the beginning.

I was in high school.

I heard it from Reagan.

I mean,

we've known it's not going to last.

There comes a time when you have to say, guys, we're going to finish the generation that really needs it right now, but

we've got to shut the taps down.

We're going to do it slowly, methodically, and with lots of time, but we got to shut this off.

And I commend you for that, Mike.

I commend you.

Thank you.

In all my 12 years in the Senate, I've never proposed abolishing those benefits.

Of course not.

I've instead looked for ways to make them sustainable.

And shame on the president for lying about this.

Wow, he actually used it.

He actually used the lying word.

Mike is so temperate at everything.

Mistruths.

But thank you, Mike.

God bless you.

I love you.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Bye-bye.

Thank you.

He is such a

radical, isn't he?

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Did anybody notice that the first time?

He couldn't bring himself to say lie.

He didn't want to go there.

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All righty, Sick Freak.

Welcome to Friday.

We have a few things.

I would like to

play Joe Biden on the balloon.

This is cut to Joe Biden, the Chinese balloon.

Was it a threat?

Wasn't it a major security breach for the United States?

Just the fact that the balloon came into the airspace and flew over the country for so many days?

Look,

the total amount of

intelligence gatherings going on by every country around the world is overwhelming.

And the idea that a balloon could traverse

break American airspace is

anyway.

What?

It's not a major breach.

Okay.

Who feels confident we're being we've got a stern captain who knows the path.

So it wasn't a major breach.

It wasn't a major brief or breach.

Then why did we use a million-dollar missile to shoot it down?

I mean, if it wasn't a breach, you should have just come out and said, it's not a breach.

Okay.

But we used a million-dollar missile to shoot it down into the water, and we didn't target the balloon.

We targeted the little suitcase thing, you know.

I mean, I don't even know how big it was.

Probably maybe, maybe three feet by a foot by two feet, three feet?

Maybe.

Maybe, maybe.

So let's just look at a piece of luggage.

We have Jason Buttrell in, who is our chief researcher.

Jason,

military, one of those missiles, they're made to take down what?

Full-on aircraft.

Full-on aircraft, okay?

So we shot one at a the size of like, you know, luggage.

I've got an old Samsonite and I've got a big radio in there and a transmitter, my toothbrush, and my underpants.

And it's it's flying on a balloon

it's hit squarely by one of those missiles how much is left of that

nothing i mean practically nothing maybe a small piece of metal something like right maybe nothing you could use correct nothing that's going to give you any indication other than this came from the earth this was man-made as a it's a metal alloy of some sort why do we have if it wasn't major if it was no big deal why do we have the SEAL team scuba diving, trying to find any piece of it, which you're not going to do, and it's not going to be anything earth-shattering, but why do, this doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Now, here's the good news.

I understand that the president has dispatched the big guns.

He's got James Cameron now underwater with cameras.

Old move.

It is.

It is.

And so far, he's only found this old couple holding each other in bed.

They were very, very frightened.

So we got James Cameron on it, so

that's going to be good.

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There is hearings going on right now in Washington.

about the weaponization of the government.

And every single American, I don't care if you're left, right, independent, atheist, religious, whatever, we are all living under the same rights.

And when there is a breach of those rights on anyone,

it's a breach on all of us.

And we have to go back to that understanding.

When I was growing up, we used to say all the time, you know, boy, I don't agree with a word that you said, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it.

That was common.

Do you ever hear that anymore?

Except from somebody my age.

I disagree with you 100%.

In fact, I'm almost violently against you.

But I will fight for your right to say it because we're Americans.

And when you have that attitude, then everybody's safe.

Everybody's safe.

You have to be willing to defend the most abhorrent ideas or abhorrent speech.

We do not regulate those things here.

So the FBI field office in Richmond released an internal memo warning that violent extremists are attracted to radical traditionalist Catholic ideology.

Now the memo goes on and

says, these are the people that are against

Vatican II.

Vatican II,

really,

isn't that the one that made the mass, took it out of Latin and made it into English?

They're going to blow up the government because the Mass isn't in Latin anymore?

I mean, but then you start thinking about it.

You're like, these traditionalists, I mean, have you listened to their music?

I mean, if that doesn't fill you with rage,

that isn't just like, oh, I've got to bomb something right now.

I have to.

Anyway,

so listen to this.

This is in the document.

Interest of radically or ethnically motivated violent extremists in radical traditionalist Catholic ideology most certainly presents new mitigation opportunities.

Wait, wait, wait.

What?

Most certainly presents new mitigation opportunities.

Hmm.

This is for FBI internal use only.

Do not disseminate externally.

Luckily, somebody was like, ah, I think I'm going to distribute this one externally.

The field office claims it has increasingly observed interest of radically or ethnically motivated violent extremists in the Catholic ideology, and

they were relying on the key assumption that radically or ethnically motivated extremists would continue to find radical traditional Catholic ideology attractive

and connect it with,

I don't, no, bombs, I don't, I have no idea.

But I mean, if you're if you're really hacked off that like the mass isn't in Latin,

I don't target a congressman.

I don't know about you.

I mean, I don't understand.

Other than

this may be part of the warning that I have given you on

Alexander Dugan.

The traditionalist, not a small T, but a capital T.

That's a movement, the traditionalist movement.

And that comes from Russia.

You want to talk about a Russian infiltration.

You want to talk about disinformation and radicalizing Americans and trying to destroy America.

That's it.

You want that one, FBI?

Because I could give you the information.

I know you have experts somewhere, but you want to look at traditionalism being dangerous.

Let me introduce you to Alexander Dugan.

That's dangerous.

Somebody who's like, I really disagree with Vatican II.

I don't think they're bombers.

I don't think they're going to go after, you know, Obama or Biden or anybody else.

Although they did say

they have real dis.

I'm quoting, real disdain for most of the popes elected since Vatican II, particularly Pope Francis and then Pope John Paul II.

Oh, my gosh.

Well, Pope Francis, I mean,

I don't know a Catholic who's like, that guy's sweet.

No alarm bells go off when me.

I mean, the only ones that I would know would be the mainstream media.

They're like, he is just like St.

Francis.

I saw him hugging a deer last night.

Uh-huh.

So they have a problem with Pope Francis and Pope John Paul II.

And they are anti-Semitic, anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQI2 plus,

and white supremacists.

Really?

I mean, I'm sure there are

those traditional Catholics that are like that, just like I think there are those,

you know, traditional Baptists, untraditional Baptists, traditional Mormons, untraditional Mormons, Jews.

Well, Jews, probably not.

Well, you know, they

some of the amazing, famous left-wing Jews are very anti-Semitic, strangely, but I digress.

He said this is a, they said this is a small minority of overall Roman Catholic adherents.

And,

you know, they're upset against the teachings and traditions.

Yada, yada, yada.

Now, they used as a source the Southern Poverty Law Center.

So we have

that.

And they also said this is a way for them to

connect.

with these radical traditional Catholic adherents, both virtually via social media media and in person at places of worship

so

i don't know how these fbi agents undercover are going to handle the gregorian chant i mean that could that could get dicey and then the incense on top of it

okay

but uh you learn the secret latin code and you're in fbi you'll be in so what is this What does this say?

This is basically saying we're targeting the Catholics.

Anybody who, you know, is a traditional Catholic, we're targeting you

because you might be an enemy of the state.

Do you remember the outcry when the terrorists were planning stuff in a mosque and the FBI would knock on the door?

Excuse me, I don't mean to, I mean, I'm not going to come in, I'm not going to, I, no, no, no, I even took my shoes off, you know, at the car.

I've been walking through the muddy streets and the syringes and the the broken glass, but I'm here without my shoes and I'm being very rare.

You know the guy who's covered in soot that just ran in here?

Yeah, he just blew up a building.

Could we get him out?

Oh my gosh!

How dare you take on this religion?

Here you have them targeting.

By the way, they've retracted this.

Now that this has come out, they said they were really, really, really, really sorry.

It was a mistake.

What'd you say?

Bull crap.

Yeah.

No, it was a mistake.

It was a mistake.

And they came out and said,

we would not open an investigation based solely on First Amendment protected activity.

We just wouldn't do it.

Really?

Well, do you have like the Catholic bombs or anything?

What, what, what, why, why were you infiltrating this group?

Do you have evidence?

Your evidence in the memo is like, they say bad stuff.

They think bad things.

There's no evidence in that memo that they're building bombs, planting bombs, none of that.

It's all thought and speech.

Here's the problem.

We are confusing now crime with thoughts.

I remember when Minority Report came out and you were like, oh my gosh,

we're four people lying in a milk bath away from doing minority report.

All you need are the precogs.

Well, and the bingo thing where the balls came down.

B26.

That's all we're missing on this.

We are now placing

thought and speech as crime.

Congratulations, America.

Can you play that catholic chant thing again that gregorian chant i love it this is one of my favorite i have all these guys i have i have their whole collection sometimes they just rip loose and you know in latin they're like let's blow up things right that's kind of how i'm feeling now yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so i mean

it's pretty crazy because i'm thinking they're thinking right now of blowing stuff up

right listen oh my gosh there it is there it was that was the thought that was the moment that was the moment okay i don't think that's actually gregorian chant i've never heard the gregorian chant with the

the jack boward drums behind it synthesizer did they actually

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Catholics, when are you going to wake up?

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I'm sorry, I'm not just singling out.

Well, actually, I am just singling out Catholics, but don't play this extremist because the story was about Catholics.

But when are Catholics going to stand up and go, hey,

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