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It was Sunday, April 11th, 1937.

A lot of things happened on that day that most of us just don't remember.

The first postage stamp bearing the face of Adolf Hitler went on sale in Germany.

The French ocean liner, the Normandy, crossed the Atlantic Ocean in record time.

Its average speed was 30 knots.

Also, in New York, in the city, there was a woman giving birth to an unknown kid that would grow up to be very famous in America.

His name was Colin Powell.

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But at seven o'clock at night, Burgess Meredith and Orson Welles stepped to the Columbia microphones at CBS.

And they did something that most people will never remember.

It wasn't War of the Worlds.

It reflected what was going on in the day.

The annexation of Austria was in the works.

Germany was already bombing Madrid and bombing parts of France.

They were killing the Basques.

Franco said he would destroy Madrid block by block, and he wouldn't listen to the Red Cross.

There is no safe zone for citizens.

Fascism and communism, totalitarianism was on the rise.

And that night,

Orson Welles said these words, the city of masterless men will take a master.

There will be shouting then,

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So as people sat down in their living rooms and instead of watching TV, which they didn't have, on Sunday night, they would turn on the set, as my grandfather used to call it, and warm the tubes, and soon you would hear voices from faraway lands.

That night, there was a radio play, a broadcast, and this broadcast supposedly was from from a plaza in an unnamed city.

And the announcer reported, as a crowd awaits for the reappearance of this recently dead woman who had risen from her crypt on the previous three nights.

And she would prophesy,

the city of masterless men will take a master.

Well, the crowd grew bigger and bigger and bigger.

She was warning of the people of an impending arrival of a conqueror

and said that the people, she described the life of those who had been conquered as one of terror.

Their words are their murderers, judged before judgment.

So

she goes down and then the next time an orator stands up and he says, we have to be non-violent, have a non-violent acceptance of the conqueror's arrival.

Reason and appeasement and eventual scorn will prevail against the conqueror.

So let's just appease him, give him what he wants.

We don't need to do anything.

Eventually, we'll all figure it out and then we can throw him, overthrow him then.

Then a second messenger comes.

and reports the newly conquered peoples have embraced the conquerors in other lands.

Then the priests of the city say, you got to turn to God.

Turn to God.

They even go as far as inciting the crowd to sacrifice one of the citizens

of the town

to appease the gods

and get rid of the conqueror.

And then finally, a general.

He interrupts them.

And he calls for resistance.

But the people have already given up up hope.

They had already renounced their freedom.

I'd like to pick it up there for the last couple of minutes and tell you this story.

That night in 1937, through the crackling airwaves,

the voice of Orson Welles spoke.

We're here on the central plaza.

We're well off to the eastward edge.

There's a kind of terrace over the crowd here.

It's precisely four minutes to twelve, and the crowd is enormous.

There might be ten thousand, there might be more.

The whole square is nothing but faces.

Opposite over the roofs are the mountains, quite clear.

There are birds circling.

They're all pointing and pushing together.

The women are shouldering baskets and bread and children, but they all smell the smoke in the air.

They smell terror.

A general has approached the microphone.

Empty belly or purse or the pitiful hunger of children, than doing the strong man's will.

The free will fight for their freedom.

They're free men first.

They feed meager of fat.

But as free men, everything else comes after food, roof, and craft, even the sky and the light of it.

The sun is yellow with smoke, and the town is burning.

The war, the wars at the broken bridge.

The general continues, you, are you free?

Will you fight?

There are still inches for fighting.

There's still a niche in the streets.

You can stand on the stairs and meet him.

You can hold in the dark of a hall.

You can die, or your children will crawl for it.

But the people won't listen to the general.

They're shouting and screaming and circling.

The square is full of deserters, with more coming.

Every street from the bridge is full of deserters.

They're rolling in with smoke blowing behind them.

The plaza is choked with the smoke and the struggle of the stragglers.

They're climbing the platform.

Driving the ministers, shouting.

One speaks to another.

The voices of the citizens cry out.

The city is doomed.

There's no holding it.

Let the conqueror have it.

It's his.

The age is his.

It's his century.

He's but one man.

We are but thousands.

Who can defend us from one man?

Bury your arms.

Break your standards.

Give him the town while the town still stands.

They're throwing their arms away.

Their bows are in bonfires.

The plaza is littered with torn plumes, spear handles.

Again the people cry out, Masterless men, masterless men, must take a master Order must master us Freedom is for fools Force is the certainty Freedom has eaten our strength and corrupted our virtues Men must be ruled Fools must be mastered Rigor and fast will restore us our dignity Chains will be our liberty

The last defenders are coming.

They whirl from the streets like wild leaves on a wind.

The square scatters them.

Now there are fewer, ten, together or five.

They come with their heads turned, their eyes back.

Now there are none.

The street is empty.

In shadow the crowd is retreating, watching the empty street.

The shouts die.

Voices are silent.

They are just watching.

They stand in the slant of the sunlight, silent and watching the silence after the drums echo the drum beat.

Now

they see him.

They must see him.

They're shading their eyes from the sun.

There's a rustle-rustle of whispering.

We can't see for the glare of it.

Yes, yes, he is there now at the end of the street in shadow.

We see him.

He looks huge, a head taller than anyone else.

Broad as a brass door, a hard hero, heavy of heel on the brick, clanking with metal.

The helm closed on his head, the eye holes, eye holes hollow.

He's coming.

He's clear of the shadow.

The sun takes him.

They cover their faces with their fingers.

They cower before him.

They fall.

They sprawl on the stone.

He's alone where he's walking.

He marches with the rattle of metal.

He tramples his shadow.

He mounts the pyramid, stamps on the stairway, turns.

His arm rises.

His visor now is opening.

There is no one.

There is no one at all.

No one.

The helmet is hollow.

The metal is empty.

The armor is empty.

It's just metal.

The barrel of metal.

The bundle of armor.

It's empty.

Don't they see?

They lie in the sunlight.

They lie in the burnt spears, the ashes of their arrows.

They lie there.

They don't.

They don't see or they don't want to see.

They're silent.

The people invent their

oppressors.

They wish to believe in them.

They wish to be free of their freedom, released from their liberty.

The long labor of liberty ended.

They just lie there.

Look, it's his arm.

It's rising.

His arm is rising.

They're watching his arm as it rises.

They stir, they cry, they cry out, they're shouting.

They're shouting now with happiness.

Listen, they're shouting like troops in a victory.

Listen to them.

The city of masterless men has found a master.

You'd say it was they that were the conquerors, they that had conquered

the city has fallen

That bundle of empty armor

is what we talk about on this program every day

And every day so many, even in this audience,

say

he is but one man, we are but thousands.

Who could stand against the one man?

We surround

them.

It's not the other way around, and yet this bundle of empty metal has convinced all of us

that we should lay down,

that we should hide our heads, that somehow or another, this time

the conqueror

will either be benevolent or we can just wait him out and we'll be fine.

We've got to be ruled.

Our freedom

is the cause of our decay.

Fools have to be mastered.

I'm here to remind you today of one thing.

Are you still free?

Will you still stand up and fight?

Because there's not just mere inches for fighting.

There are miles for fighting.

There's more than just a niche in the street.

We're not to the point where you need to stand on the stairs to meet him

or look for the dark hall where you can hide.

But I promise you this, if we don't stand, if we don't focus on freedom and what it really means, not just our freedom, but all man's freedom.

Not just our freedom to say the things we want to say, but say the things that are offensive to us, to stand up for other men's freedom, to say those things.

If we don't stand for those things, if those aren't worth living for or dying for,

indeed, our children will crawl for it.

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We have Adam Morgan on.

He is South Carolina State Representative.

He is also the chairman of the South Carolina Freedom Caucus.

What's happening in South Carolina is pretty amazing.

The Post in Courier said, South Carolina State House Republicans see their divide air on full display in contentious day.

State House tensions brewing between members of the hard right House Freedom Caucus and their GOP colleagues spilled out into the open in a fiery floor debate amid conflicting accounts of who's even a legitimate member of the ruling Republican ranks.

Okay, this is really

quite an amazing story, and I wanted to talk to Adam about it.

I am a big supporter of the Freedom Caucus.

I do not know the members of this particular Freedom Caucus, but I think there should be a Freedom Caucus in every state, especially those that we think, oh, yeah, that's all Republican.

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

Well, are they constitutional Republicans or are they progressive Republicans?

Adam Morgan is with us now.

Hi, Adam.

Hey, Glenn, thanks for having me on.

You bet.

So tell me what this all stemmed from.

Well we came back to session, all the members of the Republican caucus, and we were given new rules that the Republican Caucus had passed.

And in the rules, there was a new loyalty rule that you were not allowed to engage in campaign activities of any kind against other members.

And there was now a signature line on the rules, which has never been there before, that basically is a promise that we will agree to abide by, adhere to, and comply with these new rules that just kind of came out of nowhere.

And my numbers, as you mentioned in the Freedom Caucus, we're just not going to do that.

You wouldn't say, Ja volle meinfuhrer?

And make sure that you didn't step out of line with the party?

Wow.

Wow.

Yeah, absolutely not.

And I think the most shocking part is we told them before the rules were adopted, we said, look, this is nuts.

People in our districts are going to go nuts.

We're not going to willingly sign away our First Amendment rights.

Like, you literally put a pledge in this.

This is awful.

We're not going to sign it.

We can't sign it in good conscience.

And they ignored it, didn't fix it, forced the rule change, and kicked us out of caucus.

Wow.

Okay.

All the conservative, all the most conservative members, the hard right, as you read earlier, which I'll wear that as a badge of honor.

Yeah, me too.

So

let me make sure that I understand.

You went in and they said everybody has to sign this loyalty pledge.

Is that what they called it?

No,

they're saying, you know, of course, the words, oh, no, no, it's just

an agreement to abide by rules.

Right.

But the rules were.

You have to sign it on your honor.

Right.

And so you

had to sign it.

And if you signed it, if there was somebody who was

just sucked as a Republican and was a huge progressive Republican, you couldn't speak out against it.

You couldn't help mention names that were running against that person or support them.

Do I have that right?

Yeah, most definitely not the second part.

That was the whole question.

Immediately, we're like, well, what is campaign activities of any kind?

And, you know, we had a big discussion,

and those are technically under caucus confidentiality, so I won't say what individuals said, but I'll just tell you the definition was

hugely sweeping, broad and sweeping.

And yeah, you cannot criticize in a way that would make people want to vote against a member.

You absolutely cannot endorse if a great conservative challenger comes in and

think about this.

If a Republican suddenly comes in and says, we want to defund the police, we want to go to

third trimester abortions, all that kind of stuff.

None of us, not a single member who signs that pledge, can go out and call that person out and say they need to be removed.

We need a great challenger.

Or if they're challenging funds, you can't endorse them.

Or you can get kicked out of the Republican caucus in South Carolina.

So one of the things you guys expected was that they were going to come back right away when they call the House into session.

They would approve the allotment of the remaining

over

half a billion dollars in coronavirus relief funds that came from Washington.

And they were going to say, yeah, we're going to work on our sewers with this.

Well, that's that's not coronavirus.

And what are you doing?

And you guys wanted to either

put money on it to make sure that it was used in the proper way or just give it back as a tax rebate, right?

Yeah, we had several different plans.

And a lot of this is, you know, some people call them Biden bucks, the ARPA funds that

we use for, yeah, transportation and different infrastructure things.

And, you know, we just had several amendments that were common sense, you know, good policy.

And so we decided to make a stand.

As I mentioned, we're kicked out of public caucus and it's just our freedom caucus now.

And so we went at it.

And some of the amendments were shot down, but we actually got one passed that I was able to amend that banned members

from profiting from the legislation.

Oh, geez.

So we wouldn't be able.

Oh, yeah, that was the amendment that I put on it.

Wow.

You would have thought I threw a grenade in that room by doing that amendment.

Oh my gosh.

Oh, my gosh.

But it passed so you know we had a big win and now and in south carolina we've had a problem with that in the past legislators having businesses that then go and get the contract profit off the legislation we passed every step now it can't okay so so Adam how many freedom caucus members are there in South Carolina we have 20 members which is actually a really great number and kind of shocking when you think about you know it's a fourth of the Republican caucus the fifth of the legislature and that they would we could be targeted and kicked out of the Republican caucus is really shocking, unconscionable.

There's so many words for it, but I'll just say this.

You know, I would have thought a year ago, a month ago, this could never happen here in South Carolina.

We're a Ruby Red State.

It just can't happen.

And what's going on is it's a battle for the Republican Party, for the soul of the Republican Party.

Correct.

And it's happening here.

It's going to happen.

I think it might happen in every state.

Oh, it's happening here in Texas, and

not enough people that actually believe in the Constitution and the freedom of Texas, they're not standing up.

It's not being reported anywhere, and this GOP has gone awry in Texas, big time.

If it's happening here, it's happening everywhere.

So, Adam, let me ask you.

So, you guys are out of the caucus.

How do you actually then fight for freedom and

pitch this battle if you're on everybody's enemies list.

Yeah, and we and we are on everyone's enemy list, definitely of both some of the Republican Congress and definitely the Democrats.

You know, we have been fighting.

We just really formed as a freedom caucus in the last year.

And since we did that, we have had some really big wins.

We went after a pediatric transgender clinic that was operating in a hospital where they were seeing kids 4 to 18 to do therapies and counseling and even medical, full medical procedures to transition children on the taxpayer dime.

And we FOIA them, put pressure, and then suddenly they announce and it's closed.

And then we sued some road school districts that were violating state law that nobody would do anything about.

Nobody would deal with it.

And so now we've gotten the programs that were indoctrinated teachers in how to teach and implement CRT.

Those are now removed.

And so we and then the amendment I just mentioned.

So there's definitely ways that we can have legislative wins.

We just have to be willing to stand up to the pressure from the left and from our own party.

So are the people supporting you?

Are the people aware in South Carolina that this is going on and have called the GOP and said, hey, what are you doing?

Yes, I think that a lot of people are aware and there's more awareness every day.

You know, the movement is growing.

People, when they find out about this,

just really anyone in the party is scandalized and very much supportive of what we're doing.

And we're getting the calls and the emails.

Stand strong.

Don't cave in.

This is the real battle.

And I know they've been calling.

And really, that's what we need more of.

People in South Carolina, they need to contact their representatives, their Republican representatives, and say, demand this rule change.

Because there's members in there who have said, oh, I didn't really know what was going on.

I didn't know what I was signing.

Some will even say, thank y'all for fighting.

They're not openly fighting yet, and I'm hoping they will.

But they're saying, thank y'all for fighting for

our First Amendment rights.

And so I'm hoping that the members, because there are still some conservatives in the room, that they will stand up and demand this to be changed because that's what's got to happen.

It's got to be the members that are in there.

And tell me why they didn't want you to post any image of the House Electronic Voting Board.

Yeah,

that one is a bit of a mystery.

One of the House leadership even used that in a speech, saying that we should, before we post, we need to search our hearts and basically acting as though it's a bad,

you know, negative thing for us to go and inform the electorate about the votes that are going on in the House because it makes other members look bad.

And I just, yeah, I don't think I really can defend that.

That's so ludicrous to me.

There's no transparency.

I elected you, put you in.

I want to see how you're voting.

I want to see what you're voting on and how you're voting.

It's ridiculous.

Exactly.

I mean, it's a giant board.

It's there for transparency so that everyone knows how we vote.

We should be on the record.

We should be held accountable and brought to task for our votes.

And members, you know, can't.

The fact that they would try to use social pressure to get people not to share because it makes others look bad.

It's like, well, just stand by your vote.

Or, how about you just vote the way your district wants you to, the people want you to, and then you got nothing to hide.

Right.

Right.

It's just that simple.

Right.

All right.

Well, I wish you the best of luck in South Carolina.

Let us know any updates if things are changing.

If you're, you know, if you need some more to rally the troops in South Carolina, let us know.

I strongly urge you, if you are in South Carolina, to call your

state house, your state representatives, and tell them, stop this.

This loyalty pledge is ridiculous.

Stop it.

I support the Freedom Caucus.

It is so important that you do this because this, for the very first time, for the very first time, there are groups of people, not only in Washington, but in our statehouse, that are actually standing and doing what they said to us they would do.

If we abandon them now,

we deserve what we get.

These people are brave enough to stand.

We must support them.

If you're in South Carolina,

make sure you call them.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

Thank you.

Go ahead, John.

Douglas.

You bet.

And by the way, this is happening in all of our states.

So look into your state and find those fighters.

By the way, this is what

this loyalty pledge said.

Prohibit members from endorsing or campaigning on behalf of anyone challenging a GOP incumbent in the spring's primary elections.

It would prohibit lawmakers from posting images of the House Electronic Voting Board on their social media pages and from discussing the eternal processes behind House votes during public appearances.

Basically,

don't talk about anything.

What happens here stays here.

I'm sorry, there's a gallery for a reason.

You're supposed to be able to be transparent.

Now, we just have different ways of transparency.

Now, not everybody can go to the Capitol and watch the proceedings, and we don't trust our journalists to tell us the truth anymore.

So, you don't have any right to muzzle anyone on the floor.

The people have a right to know what's going on and don't ever, ever, ever sign anything where you give up your First Amendment right.

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This hour I have been looking forward to for a couple of months.

I wanted to find the right person to talk about the evil that we are experiencing in life today.

How do you define evil?

Do you define it as a force?

Is there a force of good and a force of evil?

Is there a...

Turn to the dark side.

The force is real.

And right now, evil is...

thinks it's winning honestly, thinks it's winning.

But I define evil because I know who the head of evil is, Satan.

He is the author of all lies.

He sows nothing but confusion.

His results are always all about chaos and division.

And he's always about the collective.

Oh, he wants the individual, but he uses the collective.

I'll save everyone.

I just won't let them choose.

So if you believe in evil, evil is in a deep state all around us, everywhere, from the World Economic Forum all the way to our churches, and it's happening in all of our churches.

There is either a very loud or quiet civil war going on.

But I wanted to talk about the Catholic Church with a guy I would consider

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He is exposing what's going on to be able to help aid the church.

We're going to talk about what Benedict said, the deep state in the Vatican, what does that mean, the evil at play,

and also the third secret of Fatima.

Is it playing out now?

Dr.

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Taylor Marshall is with us now, the author of Infiltration,

The Infiltration of the Catholic Church, The plot to destroy the church from within.

This is a universal story now.

Doctor, welcome to the program.

How are you?

I'm great.

Thanks for having me on, Doug.

You bet.

So we follow your work a great deal because you talk about other things other than

Catholic things.

But I want to make sure that people understand right from the beginning, we are not taking on the Catholic Church, and this is not a Catholic bash session.

No, not at all.

I consider myself a Catholic.

I attend Mass every day.

Sometimes more.

I have a beautiful Catholic family.

We have eight children.

And I love Christ.

I love the church.

And

that bothers me that there's these wolves in sheep's clothing, in shepherd's clothing even, doing horrible things to children, to bank finances, to all kinds of scandals.

And I think that the answer is just to shine light on it and to expose it and so that we can have some true change and get things back on track the way God wants it.

Right.

And there's going to be a lot of Catholics that listen and will hear you, like Nancy Pelosi,

who consider themselves Catholic, that will disagree strongly with some of the things that you're saying.

But I think that's the point, because there is this kind of feeling among Catholics

about Pope Francis.

Is he a good guy?

Is he a bad guy?

I don't know if we'll ever get to that question, but I want to talk about Pope Benedict because this was very bizarre when Pope Benedict resigned.

I think it was the first time, right?

Where he resigned in

the first time in 597 years.

Okay.

It's been a while.

It's a pretty rare event, yeah.

Right.

And when he resigned, it seemed very odd.

It was preceded by European banks pulling the plug on the Vatican Bank, right?

Yeah, that's correct.

Well, actually, if we go back just a little bit more, a few months before the Vatican Bank having a kind of a meltdown, there was the butler of Pope Benedict.

His name was Paolo Gabrielli, and he was leaking documents to the press and to journalists, and no one knew how this was happening.

And finally, he was caught.

He pled guilty, and he was sentenced to prison.

in the Vatican.

Then Pope Benedict oddly pardoned him.

And that led to a whole investigation

that was headed up by Benedict, a secret investigation.

Three cardinals did it.

And they presented to him, their sources say one or two red binders of all kinds of filth in it,

bank scandals.

There's rumored to be pictures of cardinals and drag in those binders, all kinds of nasty things.

And that all happened in December of 2012.

And then January 1st of 13, the The Vatican museums cannot process money.

The ATM machines in Vatican City stop working.

And shortly thereafter, we have the announcement of Pope Benedict that he's going to resign.

The very next day, all those banking problems were fixed.

They were resolved.

And by the way, that night that Pope Benedict announced that he was going to resign, that's the night when lightning struck the Vatican, which everyone noticed, which was a sign for a lot of people.

So

this is right along the lines of what we're seeing in the deep state in the United States.

We are seeing with the World World Economic Forum, which I know you are very well aware of.

Is there any evidence that this banking thing was to put pressure on the Pope?

Get out?

I think so.

And the reason for this, and you say deep state, and I really think we need to, everyone needs to put it in their vocab deep church.

The same thing happening in the state is happening in the church.

We can refer to deep state and we can refer to deep church.

And it is not just the Catholic church.

These people have been working behind the scenes for years.

Yes.

And

you got to remember that

the Vatican is unique in that the Vatican is its own nation.

It's called a city-state.

It has its own sovereignty.

Technically, Vatican City does not belong to Italy.

It's its own micro-country.

And as a micro-country, it has its own bank.

Now, I just want the listeners to think about this.

If you are a drug runner, a human trafficker, a mob boss, your biggest problem is what do you do with all this money?

You've got to launder it.

You've got to get it into legit means and move it around, right?

And what if there were a bank on earth that belonged to a micro nation that was not regulated by the EU, that was not regulated or audited by anyone?

on the outside.

Well, there is that bank in the world, and that bank is called the Vatican Bank.

And so every crony crony on earth wants a piece of that bank because you can legitimize illegitimate money.

And that's why the Vatican Bank has had a problem of scandals almost every five to ten years since the 1960s.

The temptation to use that Vatican Bank is high, and the temptation for corrupt cardinals in the church to let people get their fingers into that pie is also very high.

And that's only one piece of this whole puzzle.

But I think that helps people understand why the Vatican Bank is constantly plagued with scandals.

Okay, so let me make sure I understand the good guy here, Benedict.

Is it your thesis that Benedict was working to end all that corruption and expose it?

And possibly even his butler was being used by Pope Benedict to

out all of this stuff?

Go ahead.

Yeah, those are questions that we're still trying to figure out.

And I want to be very careful not to say, you know, Pope Benedict was the, you know, super saint mastermind playing 4D chess.

I mean, this is an old man who's in his 80s.

And I mean, it's very few of us have had the experience of being old and tired and surrounded.

And so

I don't think we can make it just as easy as the good guys and the bad guys here.

But definitely Pope Benedict was doing investigations.

And he appointed a man who's become very famous in the last few years, Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano.

I love him.

To audit.

Yeah, he's great.

He's just, he's a good guy.

He appointed him

back in, I think it was 2009.

He appointed him Secretary General of the Vatican City Governorate.

And this is sort of a ruling body.

And he wanted him to look into the financial accountability of the Vatican Bank.

And as soon as he was hired by Benedict for this job, he found a negative deficit of the equivalent of 10.5 million and then found in a surplus of random money that was in various bank accounts of 44 million.

He did that in just 12 months, Vigano did, which shows you that the people who were already in there were playing fast and loose with the accounting.

So Vigano exposed that.

Immediately, he was being called out by his superiors, some cardinals.

I won't go into all the names, but if you want them, I can give them to you.

And he got in big trouble.

And so what did Benedict do?

He took Vigano and said, okay, look, you're in hot water here.

I'm going to transfer you to be the apostolic nuncio, the ambassador to America, Washington, D.C.

Now I want you to go and do an audit on the American bishops in the American Catholic Church.

That's what Vigano did.

And guess what?

He uncovered the Cardinal McCarric scandal.

Cardinal McCarrick was the Archbishop of D.C.

who was molesting children, embezzling money, just a wicked Judas of a man.

Vigano exposed that.

And then, of course, Vigano has spent the last five years pointing the finger at Francis for corruption.

So all these characters are woven together.

It's a pretty small world in the Vatican.

So

let me switch topics here and kind of go to what happened

yesterday or day before.

Unprecedented.

A Pope writes a book, and it is held until after his death and he just exposes some really nasty things.

And I want to get into your thoughts on that.

What did he say?

Why did he wait?

And what is going to be the fallout from it?

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So it was a tell-all memoir,

and it's a book of really unexpected revelations, and it came from the Vatican.

It came from the archbishop who was the right-hand man of Pope Benedict, and it was supposedly written by the two of them, I think, or Pope Benedict.

And it exposes all of the things Pope Benedict wanted to expose.

And it's some nasty expose.

Never really done before.

Am I right?

Yeah, this is, as far as I know, never been done.

There was

a rumor that Pope Benedict was going to release his final spiritual testimony after he died.

And after he died, it came out.

And everybody said it was a nothing burger.

You know, it kind of reminisced about his childhood and his family.

And then yesterday and the day before, this book dropped.

It's in Italian.

I actually have an advanced English copy of it.

I don't know if it's official or not, but I'll just read you a section from it.

This is Pope Benedict.

He says, quote, in several seminaries, homosexual clubs were formed, which acted more or less openly and which clearly changed the atmosphere in seminaries.

In a seminary in southern Germany, candidates for the priesthood and candidates for the lay office of pastoral contact lived together.

And he goes on, and he talks about also the American bishops and how they sort of lost their vision for the gospel for assisting the poor, for preaching the truth, drawing people to Jesus Christ.

And instead, kind of just became, not in his words, but sort of the chaplains to the Democratic Party, you know, the woke agenda, the great reset.

And this kind of makes sense.

I mean, if you're Satan, you want to be in the highest corridors of power.

And that has to do with both religion and politics.

And there was a woman named Bella Dodd who in the 50s said, she was a communist operator and she had a big conversion.

And she said that she had placed over a thousand communist men in the seminaries.

That was back then.

So this kind of thing is happening, and it's just like we have a deep state.

This is the deep church.

So Pope Francis recently came out and said the devil is among us

and he has talked about a great evil.

It sounds like this is what Benedict was also warning against, but I don't think they see things the same way, or do they?

Well, I liked your comment that you made last week.

They're both talking about the devil, they're both talking about evil, but they seem to be pointing at one another.

Right.

I think that's, I think your observation there was a good one.

I think there's definitely a war in the Vatican.

And this kind of goes back to the 60s.

There was this council.

You mentioned it in your video, too, about a bad council, a bad mass, third secret of Fatima.

But in the 1960s, there was the Second Vatican Council from 1962 to 1965.

It was super optimistic.

You know, this is the era of color TV and moon landings and all that.

And there's this idea we need to make Christianity, we need to make Catholicism groovy.

And that's exactly the right word, too, because it's just those kind of churches are just as hip as groovy is.

Yeah, they work just as

you know.

And so there's this idea we can update and make things cool.

So we'll change the liturgy, we'll change the hymns, we'll change the art, we'll make things modern, and what we'll do is we'll just give a facelift to Catholicism so it's not medieval with incense and bells and ropes, and we'll just be really cool.

Well, there's been this battle for the past 60 years on whether that is an actual

improvement or if it's been detrimental.

And it goes hand in hand with the global political agenda.

Should we be on board?

I mean, should we be downplaying abortion, downplaying gay marriage, down, you know?

And this has been the battle.

And the lines are kind of drawn along that fault line.

And I think Benedict XVI, as a young man, was a little bit more liberal and more modern.

As he aged, as he was a pope, he's turned the wheel right.

Francis has always been a South American liberation theology, radical Jesuit modernist.

And that's just who he is.

And he hasn't, if anything, he's only gotten more and more leftist the longer he lives and the longer he's Pope.

So

go ahead.

Go ahead.

No, no, no, go ahead.

So, so by having these two camps, and you see also like Pope Francis, for example, is trying to ban the traditional Latin Mass.

He doesn't like it when priests wear Catholic.

He doesn't like the Gregorian chant.

He doesn't like the old stuff.

And he's very much on board with like, you know, the vaccine and the green theology and the great reset.

And he sends representatives to Davos.

I mean, this is his worldview.

And so when he talks about the devil, I'm not so sure he's talking about the same person that Benedict's talking about.

Right.

So when I was at the Vatican, this is under Benedict,

I had no idea why they did this.

It was a surprise to me.

But I was allowed to go into the secret archives with the chief archivist and the head of the university.

Both of them were the, you know, counselors to the Pope at the time.

And

they talked about

a war in the Vatican.

And

it was described to me later by a cardinal as really, truly a civil war.

And they were saying it is the soul of the church.

And, you know, we kind of hope Benedict wins, but it's not

clear at all.

It was shortly after that that Benedict retired,

and it seemed like almost in retrospect, almost as if the cardinals knew this could be a possibility that he would either be killed or he would have to retire.

I'd like to have you talk about the actual

because it's almost da Vinci code-ish.

I hate to say that because, you know, that was, but it's, it's almost da Vinci code.

There is

a group inside.

How real is this?

And does this play at all into prophecies, Catholic prophecies about these days?

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Welcome to the Glenbeck program.

Today, we are talking to Dr.

Taylor Marshall, author of Infiltration, also host of the Dr.

Taylor Marshall podcast that you can find on YouTube.

He talks about a lot of things, but

he is a very strong Catholic.

And this week, we are talking to him about what Pope Benedict did after his death.

A book just came out.

Nobody in America is talking about it.

I don't know if anybody in Europe is really talking about it, but it is earth-shattering.

And

it's all about

evil.

And evil is becoming more and more clear.

At least to me, it is.

And before we go on to the war that's going on in the deep church,

Archbishop Vigano

at one point here recently called out George Soros, Klaus Schwab, and Bill Gates.

And this is the guy who was calling out all the pedophiles and the banking scandals.

Why did he call those three out?

Well, as time goes on, we see that the deep church and the deep state, the puppet strings, all lead back to the same fingers.

So of course, Bill Gates,

Klaus Schwab,

the usual suspects, because you have to realize that the most powerful people in the deep state,

the billionaires and the technology giants,

they have a strategy not just for politics, but also for economics.

They have a policy for religion.

I mean, all the great tyrants have to also control religion.

I mean, this has to be done.

This is thought control.

And the most powerful thoughts that people have and the most powerful feelings they have are almost always associated to their religion, to their faith, to their convictions.

And so this has to be controlled.

And, you know, the biggest united religion on earth is Catholicism with a very centralized nervous system in Vatican City.

So of course they're going to go after that.

And Archbishop Vigano, who worked in the Vatican, who exposed

corruption in the Vatican Bank, who worked in Washington, D.C.,

he knows the Clintons.

He knows the Obamas.

He knows all of these people.

And he's met every single Catholic bishop in America and all the cardinals in America.

He has the receipts.

And so he's in a very unique position, perhaps more than anyone else alive, to have worked in Vatican, in D.C.,

and to see all these things

rally.

He's very clear on good and evil.

And

didn't he say this is a one world government that is being built by those people in the WEF, and it is one world religion and everything else?

That's what he's really warning about, isn't it?

Exactly.

Yeah.

And he was sending warnings to President Trump during the campaign.

In In fact, he even sent a message during one of the major rallies that I read from the Supreme Court steps on behalf of Archbishop Vigano because he and I are friends.

We know each other.

Would you please put a good word in for it?

I've tried to have him on a billion times, and

we don't get a response.

I'd love to do a podcast with him.

Well, he's in hiding

for obvious reason.

But yes.

Yeah, okay.

Maybe we're something out.

But he is really one of the most dynamic voices on earth, in particular for Catholics, or you could say Christians, who have just had enough.

We've just had enough of basically politicizing our faith so that the likes of Bill Gates can grab up more land and push more experimental medical procedures on the world.

So

let me ask you

the third secret of Fatima.

And if people don't know what Fatima is,

it's a miracle that happened, what, right before the

1917, right before the war.

And the Virgin Mary came and appeared to the children and said, look, there's going to be a war.

It's Russia that is behind a lot of this error.

And Russia needs to be turned over to the Lord.

And their hearts changed and gave...

I think three secrets.

And the last one was kept secret.

And it's confusing now because it supposedly has been revealed, but then I think Benedict hinted that it really hadn't been revealed.

But it talks about

the last

black Pope, if you will.

And I don't mean it as color of your race, I mean it as a dark figure, that he's on the wrong side.

Is that true?

And do you and others, does Vigano believe that this is

those times where we're approaching them?

Yes, I think that the Fatima mystery and the three secrets of Fatima are, I mean, in my book, Infiltration, it's very much part of the first part of the book because you have this,

I won't get into all the details.

People can look it up for themselves.

There's tons of literature on it, but you have one of the biggest public miracles that have happened, maybe since Moses crossing the Red Sea.

I know that sounds sensational, but it was a major public miracle that was witnessed in a place, a little tiny place, Fatima, Portugal.

And yes, there were three secrets that were revealed.

Just quickly, the first one was that hell exists and people are going there.

Don't listen to people who tell you there is no hell.

Number two, Russia needs to be consecrated.

Russia, the errors of Russia, are about to spill into the entire world over the, this was documented in 1917.

Right.

And what did we see?

We saw the rise of communism, Stalinism.

I mean, Russia,

China, Vietnam, Cuba, Latin America.

So, I mean, what happened in 1917?

I mean, either these little kids were just brilliant, you know,

politicians who could see the next hundred years, or this really was a message from heaven.

And then the third secret was written down

and was supposed to be opened and read to the world in 1960, 6-0,

with a special message to the world.

And everyone, even the New York Times, was publishing, oh my goodness, we're about to have the third secret of Fatima.

This was a big deal.

Nowadays, people have forgotten it, but it was a really big deal.

It was kind of like the Kennedy archives.

Nobody seems to release, though.

And you're like, why?

Why hasn't it been released?

Yes.

And the secret talked about a world war and then a worse one after that.

So everything that was revealed did come to happen.

So everybody wanted to know what's in the envelope in 1960.

In 1959, a year early, John 23 opens it, reads it, puts it back in, and says, this is not for our times.

I'm not releasing it to the world.

And everyone was ticked.

Everyone was upset.

Like, come on, this is perhaps the greatest prophetic thing that's happened in the last several hundred years, and you're not going to reveal it.

And so that was 1959, 1960.

And then something was released in the year 2000 by Pope Benedict, allegedly the third secret.

But as soon as it came out, people questioned it because it describes a vision of what seems to be some kind of post-war dystopia, but it doesn't explain what it is or what should happen or what we should do.

Like there's the explanation part that we had in the first and second secret is missing in the third secret.

And this has led to a unanimous agreement by scholars, even people who aren't even Catholic.

What they gave us in the year 2000 was maybe part of it, but it wasn't the full secret.

And why don't we have the full secret?

And there's all kinds of people who have speculated.

There's people who have read it in the Vatican.

And a lot of them say it has to do with papal corruption.

It has to do with a bad council, with a bad mass.

And

with a meeting in Russia, that the Pope will go to Russia

and not to consecrate Russia.

But

it's hard to know because we don't have it.

You know, we just kind of get drippings of what it could be.

But we do know that russia is at the center of this whole thing and i mean we're still living it in 2023 it'd be great to get the full secret and to know what it actually says but you know my my worry is that they put it into a filing cabinet called trash can

and we may never see it that's my concern

uh

Dr.

Marshall, we could talk for a long time.

I've got so many questions for you, but we're almost out of time.

Tell me how this relates what's going on in the Catholic Church, which is a real, true civil war for the soul, just like we're battling in the soul of America in our country and the West.

Everything is being split.

How does this relate what's going on and being exposed in the Vatican to all of our other churches?

Well, I think it goes back to

thought control.

They want to control our actions.

They want to control our words.

You know, if you say certain things, you're going to be canceled.

Just look what Elon Musk has exposed in the past several months.

And then they want to ultimately control your thoughts.

You know, we often, people know about the book of Revelation and the mark of the B666 on the forehead, you know, and all that.

But think about the significance of the forehead.

I mean, that is branding the sign of the devil upon your mind.

You know, yes, there very much could be a physical manifestation of a sign on your forehead, but ultimately, evil wants to take ownership and brand your mind and control your thoughts.

And that's where all the tentacles are reaching, is complete

thought control.

You will own nothing.

You will have nothing of your own.

You won't even have your thoughts.

And allegedly, we're going to be happy is what they tell us at the Great Reset.

And this is actually

in one of their videos that

even your thoughts, your dreams will be known.

So you really will not control your thoughts or be in charge of your thoughts.

You won't know which are your thoughts or their thoughts.

It's really spooky.

That's ultimately the mark of the beast right there.

Yes, it is.

You have 666 on your forehead, literally.

And whether it's a contraption, whether it's a tattoo, I mean, we can debate that all day, but the significance of it is that your mind belongs to evil.

And is there any doubt in your mind that

this is actual evil, like we probably haven't seen since maybe the 1930s and 40s?

Any doubt in your mind?

There's no doubt in my mind.

There's no doubt.

The powers, back then they had machine guns and planes.

Now we have technology.

You know, now people can spy on you through your phone.

can spy on you, they can control so much, and that hasn't yet been tested by tyrants.

And so now we're starting to experience it.

Thank you so much, Doctor.

I hope we get a chance to meet soon.

I'd love to have you back and talk about the World Economic Forum and the things that you know about that that I might have missed.

You spread a lot of good in the world with your podcast.

So thank you so much.

Likewise, thank you, Glenn.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

really i think very reasonable uh well thought out man his name is dr taylor marshall he is the author of the book infiltration and the host of the dr taylor marshall podcast you can find uh his podcast at youtube.com slash dr taylor marshall

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Goldman Sachs has just come out with a serious crash of home values in at least four cities.

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So we were talking about Bill Gates, you know, being one of the evil ones

with our last guest.

I mean, Outlook.

If you've ever used Microsoft Outlook, you have to agree to that.

Oh, the clip.

Clippy.

Oh, Clippy, the stupid paperclip thing telling you what to do.

Oh, yeah.

That's the mark of the dictator.

That's the dictator.

That's the beginning of the dictator, right there.

Clippy.

Anyway,

he has just come out in a new interview.

Now, listen to this, because overpopulation, we have to change the way we eat.

We can't have meat anymore.

We can't farm the way

we have been.

Global warming is coming.

We're all going to die.

All of that stuff.

In this new interview from Sydney.

Australia, he said, I'm really very optimistic.

It'll be much better to be born 20 years from now or 40 years from now than any other time in the past.

You know, the world is full of disheartening trends, like an inadequate global response to the COVID-19 pandemic or governments' failures to meet stated goals for tackling climate change and the increased political polarization.

But I'm really optimistic.

Well, first of all, of course, that statement has been largely true for a long time.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Usually the later you're born, things improve.

And every generation has fears like this.

And hopefully things go well.

I think he's absolutely right.

At our pace of innovation, you are going to, by 2030, you will not be able to keep up with what we would call miracles now.

By 2030, 2032, you'll be every day you'll be like, wait, we just cured what?

We just did what?

It's going to be like that.

And it's going to come faster and faster and faster until in the 2030s, you won't be able to keep up with them.

Okay.

Nobody will.

And so that is, that's exciting in some ways.

We'll be able to cure all these things.

But it's interesting coming from him who is so dire

that the world is going to just slip into some fiery flood because of global warming and we're killing the planet and we're all going to die.

The same guy who says, look, we only have five years to cure this.

is like, oh, no, you know, in 60 years, it's going to be great.

It's going to be great because of all of the innovation.

Well, which is it?

Which is it, Bill?

Oh, we're all going to die from, you know, some pandemic.

Really?

If most of us die of 80%, I don't know if I'd want to be brought into that world during that time.

What are you talking about, Bill?

Maybe he's just thinking by that time things will be so bad we'll all be praying for death and we'll get it.

I think by then he thinks the World Economic Forum will be in charge.

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If you happen to watch one of my Wednesday night specials, The Targets of Tyranny,

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There was one person that was with us.

Her name is Amy Nelson.

She lived in Seattle with with her husband, and there was a scandal that happened at Amazon, and her husband

all of a sudden found himself in trouble with the feds.

None of it made sense, but I said at the end of the episode, I hope none of you face repercussions from telling your story on the air.

And I'm afraid Amy may have felt repercussions because she was on the air with us.

You need to know the full story.

Amy is in with us in 60 seconds.

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First of all, that is a real idea.

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The founder of The Riveter,

she is,

she's really,

I mean, I feel stupid sitting in the same room whether she's a graduate of Emory University, NYU School of Law, practiced corporate litigation with a focus on high-profile First Amendment matters for over a decade in New York and then in Seattle.

Mother of four, contributor for Inc., the host of iHeartRadio's What's Her Story with Sam and Amy.

She's raised $30 million in

venture capital to grow the Riveter.

She's also been published in the Washington Post, Newsweek, Seattle Times, and

she's been all over the world speaking.

Fortune's most powerful women.

I mean, sheesh.

Overachieve much, Amy.

So, Amy, you were on with us.

By the way, welcome.

Thank you.

Glad you're here.

Thank you.

And And you're sitting up taking nourishment.

That's always good.

You came in here for the

Targets of Tyranny special, and we had been in correspondence for a while

because of what happened to you and your husband in Seattle with Amazon and the feds.

Can you quickly just recap that for anybody who doesn't remember?

Yeah.

So my husband worked for Amazon Web Services for nearly eight years.

If you don't know, AWS is a subsidiary of Amazon where the internet lives.

Cloud computing lives in these big data warehouses across the world.

My husband worked in real estate, helped scouting locations that would be good to build data centers and projects along those lines.

He left Amazon in 2019.

And on April 2nd, 2020, the FBI knocked on our door.

We learned then that my husband was being accused, at the time we didn't know by who, of a crime called private sector honest services fraud, which is depriving your private employer of your honest honest services.

At the time, the FBI did not ask my husband what happened.

It was clearly an accusation.

And two months later, the government used civil forfeiture to seize all of our family's bank accounts.

Your bank accounts, your husband's, your joint,

everything.

I mean, to the point, Glenn, the DOJ went into our law firm's client trust account and seized all of the money we had paid our lawyers.

Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh.

And my husband at that point had never been charged with a crime.

In fact, he never was ever charged with a crime.

Civil forfeiture is something the government can use.

It's a tool, and they can seize your money, your home, your safe deposit box.

Squeeze you in every way they possibly can.

And many times you don't get the money back.

You really don't.

And we really were kind of told, like, don't expect to ever get the money back no matter what.

That's craziness.

It is craziness.

That's King George, you know, Declaration of Independence style stuff.

Well, and the thing is, you know,

it's a tool, right?

It's a pressure tool.

So my husband had been accused on April 2nd, 2020, and the prosecutors wanted him to plead guilty to a crime.

It was all very unspecific.

It was unclear.

And the crazy thing is that largely what my husband was being accused of depriving Amazon of his honest services related to actions my husband took after he didn't work at Amazon.

But anyway,

we did fight.

And, you know, we had four little girls.

We sold our home.

We sold our car.

We liquidated our retirement.

We borrowed money from family and friends to pay lawyers and to survive.

Didn't they go into your family's accounts?

Oh, my gosh.

So

my father.

Yeah.

So my father was critically ill.

He almost died.

He actually got a life-saving kidney transplant in April of 2020.

And two weeks later, the FBI emptied out his bank accounts.

My husband and I had paid for his medical care.

So, you know,

he would have died if my mother couldn't help him pay his medical bills.

So

many times people see this and go, yeah, but there had to be something.

You, you told the story of what that something is, and it revolved around a very expensive lawsuit from Amazon.

So to preface this, we had no idea what was going on.

And the day the FBI showed up at our house, my husband hired criminal defense attorneys and said, please call Amazon and tell them, I will come in and talk to them.

I don't understand what's going on, but I have nothing to hide.

And Amazon's lawyer said, we will only speak to him if he is pleading guilty to a felony.

And at the time, we were like, what is going on?

I mean, Amazon's lawyers squarely put the DOJ between the company and my husband.

Very few companies have that kind of access to DOJ.

And for an institution that's meant to be apolitical, that's wrong.

It's just wrong.

But what we learned over the course of years and spending a lot of lawyer money is that in February of 2020, Amazon broke a contract with a real estate developer.

And by the explicit terms of that contract, unless they could prove the developer committed a felony crime, they were going to owe him over $100 million in damages.

The next day, after they broke the contract, they had their first meeting with the Department of Justice.

They met with the Department of Justice over 100 times trying to lobby for criminal charges.

The government spent countless FBI hours and prosecutors' hours, like essentially doing Amazon's bidding.

And what we do know is despite all of the things that Amazon told the government, they never told the government that they had broken a contract and needed a felony or they would be liable for 100 millions of dollars in damages.

So you decided to fight.

Yes.

I mean, you know,

you guys are fighters.

You decided to fight.

It has cost you a great deal.

Your husband, nor you, or anybody else has ever been charged.

You thought this was kind of wrapping up, and then you came on the special.

And

I think I may have said, are you sure you want to on?

And I know I said, I hope nothing happens because of this.

The day after,

coincidence.

I don't really believe in coincidences anymore, but the day after the Department of Justice subpoenaed Amazon for all of the documents that Amazon had that had been produced in the civil litigation, because after Amazon failed to get criminal charges, they sued my husband.

And I'll note something about that that I think Amazon didn't anticipate.

But usually when you're accused of a a crime, you never get to see the communications between your accuser and the Department of Justice.

And in this civil case, because Amazon sued my husband, my husband was able to see all those communications.

And they're very shocking.

And I mean, to me, as a lawyer, I was floored by the things that have been made public that I've been able to see.

Why?

What was seen?

Amazon hired a former federal prosecutor from the Eastern District of Virginia.

They paid him millions of dollars to lobby his former colleagues for criminal charges.

The former pros, the current prosecutors in Virginia, immediately ushered in Amazon for a meeting.

They set up a meeting with the prosecutor's press office because clearly this was going to be such a sexy and scandalous case.

They never checked anything Amazon said.

They never asked to see my husband's terms of employment or his non-compete.

Like they just didn't ask to see it.

Amazon said they had paid this real estate developer $16 million.

Amazon had paid the real estate developer $0.

So nobody ever checked anything.

They just went for it.

Because it was really, literally an old boys' network.

I know you, you know me, just this is a problem.

I mean, we have an email that's now in the public docket in Virginia where Patrick Stokes, Amazon's lawyer, asked his former colleague, Jessica Aber, who's now the U.S.

Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, who just sued Amazon's main rival, Google.

And Pat Stokes said to Jess Aber, we want to talk to you about civil asset forfeiture.

Prosecutors in the Eastern District of Virginia have not used civil asset forfeiture outside of a drug case in 13 years that I can find.

So

this is now being looked at again for the second time?

You know, I really think that Amazon keeps pushing DOJ to try to do something, and DOJ isn't doing anything except kind of, you know, just the investigation just kind of hangs out there because it's a threat, right?

And unless Amazon can get a felony conviction of this real estate developer, they are going to be liable for damages.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: All right.

So

the reason, and we talked about this, you mentioned this, but I have been seeing more and more stories about people from the DOJ going to work right directly to the Pentagon and people from the intelligence agencies.

This is terrifying because there is a public-private partnership that you should be very aware of.

Our DOJ, our national security agencies, all of them are using

Amazon as their cloud bank.

When you have that,

you have control of the government or the government has control of you.

At best, at best, if one doesn't have something over the head of the other, they're partners in everything.

That is extraordinarily dangerous.

It's incredibly dangerous.

I mean, and the thing that kind of blows my mind is that no one's even really paying attention to it.

I mean, on Amazon's board, they have the former head of the NSA, Keith Alexander.

That's not a person with business experience that should be on the board of a big company.

The sole reason, I mean, why else would he be there other than to get contracts with the NSA?

And sure enough, in 2021, the NSA quietly awarded Amazon Web Services a $10 billion contract.

Like, it's something that we should all be very frightened of.

It's happening across big tech.

It's happening.

You've read the Twitter files.

You see it everywhere.

And Amazon is hiring hundreds.

Hundreds.

Hundreds of CIA, FBI, former federal prosecutors.

And what just having those guys

in a high-tech company that has the information on each of us that Amazon does,

that's not good.

Oh, and there's no wall between that company and the government.

Absolutely not, right?

There's no wall at all.

And you look at things like Amazon is now getting into pharma, right?

Amazon just launched a $5 subscription to get your pills.

Now you're going to give all your health data to Amazon.

It's terrifying.

And Jeff Bezos, he's an oligarch, right?

If you looked at the indictment of the FBI agent Charles McConagill, it described an oligarch, Dara Pasca, as a man of vast wealth with close ties to the government.

That is exactly what Jeff Bezos is.

So what's next in this?

Have you written off

ever getting your money back?

So we actually got our money back, Glenn.

So we pulled off what people thought would be impossible.

Wow.

Yeah.

It was like.

You should do a podcast just on how to do that.

I know lots of people who

just driving through town, they had cash.

The sheriff pulls them over.

The cop pulls them over.

That's ours.

I mean, you never get it back.

How did that happen?

So the government, it's such a strange process.

It goes back to the time of pirates.

But when the government seizes your money, and they don't charge you with a crime, they then have to sue your asset.

So they sue your bank account.

It's like U.S.

versus $4,000 at Wells Fargo.

And they do that because your assets don't have due process.

So they can just avoid all due process.

So the government here sued our bank accounts, went to the court, paused the case for six months, went to the court again, asked to pause it for six months.

Judge said you only get four months this time.

They wanted to pause it again, and it wasn't going to happen.

So it was time to litigate.

And it was time for the government to prove their case against the bank accounts.

And instead of opting to prove the case, the government gave us the money back.

Unbelievable.

And how long was that from beginning to end when you lost the money to when you finally received it again?

It was 22 months.

So for 22 months,

we had nothing.

We had to figure out how to feed our four daughters.

And my mother, who's amazing, my mother is a public school teacher, worked her whole life.

And my mother kept asking, don't they care about your daughters?

You have a baby.

And I said, mom, they don't care.

She's like, this is our government.

And I said, they don't care.

They care about Jeff Bezos and Amazon.

They do not care that we have children to feed.

They did say when they seized our money that if my husband pled guilty to a crime, they'd give some back.

It's such a transparent tool of corruption.

It should be gone.

It should be abolished.

So

meaning that threat where they can say, hey, just say you're guilty and then we'll make this all better.

Therefore, getting the

guilty plea out of you.

And it's really kind of your only option.

They held everything, including if this goes down and we arrest your husband, we're going to do it in front of your children.

My husband asked, his lawyers asked the prosecutors over and over again who were saying in 2020, we're charging him.

We're coming.

They never charged him.

But, you know, they threaten you.

And my husband's lawyers asked the prosecutors, can he turn himself in if you're going to indict him?

And the prosecutors said, no, we will arrest him in your home in front of the kids.

Isn't that crazy?

That's wrong.

Knowing that that was a big fear of theirs.

This is so corrupt and so bad.

Amy, thank you for

telling the story.

We'll get some closing thoughts from you in just a second.

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Amy Nelson is with us.

Final thoughts or advice?

Well, as you know, Glenn, I've been a progressive my entire life.

And one thing that has really surprised me in all this is that

progressives see things in black and white.

The right side sees things in black and white.

But really, this is about our rights.

And we should all be fighting for the same rights, including due process.

And so I just hope that the Department of Justice could try to be more fair and transparent.

Is it over?

It's not.

It's not over, but it will be someday.

That's what my husband says.

This can't last forever.

That's just crazy.

Do you still consider yourself a progressive?

I consider myself politically homeless now.

Yeah.

I think a lot of people feel that way.

I think so too.

And it's weird because if you're a classic liberal,

then

I call myself more of a libertarian, but it's also classic liberal.

It's the same thing.

It really is.

I believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

That's all that's important.

The rest of it is nonsense.

It is.

And there's so much ink spilled distracting us from those things.

Yep.

Yep.

Nobody ever talks about those things.

I mean, your story and stories like you, that should be everywhere.

And that's something that both Republicans and Democrats and Independents should all be standing up and saying, this has got to stop.

Because if they'll do it to you, they'll do it to anybody.

They truly will.

Yeah.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

My best to your family.

How are your kids?

They're great.

They're amazing.

They're kids.

They're resilient.

Yeah.

Good.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

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Here's a reason why you don't want companies that are tech companies directly in bed with the government.

Let me tell tech people some really exciting news.

You know, if you're a real tech, you already know this.

But for people who like the new technology,

there is a new

AR VR device that is coming out from Apple.

And

that means you'll have virtual reality and augmented reality.

So let's say you're standing in a room with a bunch of people and you're looking, you know, at everybody in the room and you just want to call in a friend of yours.

It'll look like your friend is also standing in the room with the other friends, okay?

So you can mix the worlds, or you can have total virtual reality, or artificial reality.

Great.

Now, this one's so good that this device, its opening price is $3,000 for a headset.

Well, that'll come down.

As somebody who bought a TV for my 40th birthday, my wife got me a flat screen TV.

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I can get one better now for about $200.

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You want to see what's going on, you just look over, you know, you move your eyes to another part of the screen and it it predicts and gives you everything you want.

Sounds fantastic.

And it sounds like life is going to be so easy.

Okay,

now let me tell you why

today

is a day that you should make the decision whether or not, and keep this,

am I ever going to put one of these on my head?

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I mean, I gotta, I mean, right?

We gotta.

I mean, look at this.

Dad, everything is there.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, take it off your head right now.

Here's why.

If you eye track somebody for a month,

you will know them better than they know themselves.

If you're watching TV, within a month, It will know, are you gay or straight?

It will know any kind of fetish you might have.

It will know your favorite color, what things you like, what things you don't, how you read a website, what attracts your attention, what bores you.

It can tell within a month whether you're an expert with guns, because when you look at a picture or something and you see a gun in somebody's hand, do you look at the index finger?

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That tells you something.

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where you look are you looking at her eyes my eyes are up here or you look in someplace else and then it will not only know where you first look

it will look where you look next the path you traveled with your eyes to get to that part of the body and the part where you leave

These are all things that none of us really know.

Also,

this will be able to monitor your blood pressure and your heart rate

because your eyes truly are the window to your soul.

And so you can see blood pressure and heart rate when they look at that picture.

Does their heart rate go up?

Does their blood pressure go up?

What are they afraid of?

What do they like?

You do this for a few years and AI will be able to present to you

the best image of a person and perform in ways that will completely capture your attention.

It's no longer, well, we're kind of tailoring it to you.

It is made for you in every way, shape, or form.

You want porn?

Oh, you'll get porn.

You'll get porn with the woman that you think is the ultimate woman, whatever it is that you like

on

everything.

Now

that may sound great,

but now you might know why

don't ever

give access to your eyes,

especially eye tracking.

Can you imagine being somebody that was in the NSA

and you left the NSA and now you're at Apple

and the government's having a problem and they need to know how do we get people to shut up about, let's say, a vaccine?

How do we motivate them?

What do we do to get them locked in line?

You really think there's enough of a wall there that's going to stop that company and that government from sharing that information?

You will not know what your ideas are or what their ideas are.

You won't know if you thought it or they thought it.

And it will all be presented in a way that is designed especially for you.

So let the $3,000 price tag be the first barrier to buying it,

but not the most important barrier.

You have to decide today, because

it's going to get harder and harder, and none of the choices that you make against this stuff are going to make you more popular,

more user-friendly for the world.

You will become more and more Amish.

you will live outside of the rest of the world

it's really be in the world not of the world

you can be in the world but i'm not doing any of that stuff

you have to decide that right now your kids your family because i guarantee you it is going to come dribs and drabs it's all going to come as packaged as a great thing.

Oh my gosh, this is so amazing.

You have to see it.

And look, you don't even have to do anything.

It just moves with your eyes and it knows and it can anticipate you.

Uh-uh.

Uh-uh.

Don't do it.

Apple is probably the best with security.

But I don't trust Apple.

But they probably have the best firewall out of all of them.

And all of them are hiring in droves

those people from the NSA, intelligence agencies, and government agencies.

All of them.

They are becoming one

with the government, and the government is becoming one with these corporations.

Stand guard.

Stand

Guard.

One of the hardest lessons in life is that stability is is a luxury in this world.

It's not always there for the enjoyment.

I mean, it's really amazing

when you think how fragile all of this stuff is and how much the world has changed.

And we've just watched this.

I mean, this is all going to be in the history books as one of the most amazing time periods in human history.

From 2001 to 2035 is going to be, I mean, it's going to be like the World War II documentaries, forever, because this is the end and the beginning.

It's amazing,

but that makes things unstable.

You don't know what's going to happen in that changeover.

You don't know what could be happening just with the weather.

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May I just say that I think a case could be made that we should sue some of these companies under the Nuremberg laws?

Everybody's doing grand experiments on the entire human race and really not talking about the consequences.

And we're signing up for it.

We're signing up for it.

So I guess you couldn't impose the Nuremberg laws because we're the ones going, I'll do that.

What could go wrong?

What could possibly go wrong with tracking your eye movement?

Do you know, you know, when you dream at night, your eyes go back and forth?

Okay.

You know, how you see somebody dreaming and their eyes are moving crazy?

That rapid movement, what it's doing is it is...

It is tying the events of the day to like, you know, little file cabinets and it's reshuffling everything and putting it in its correct order because sometimes you don't have

you need time the day to process everything so it puts everything in order if you've had something tragic go on you saw somebody hit by a bus

that memory

shatters okay

and because you can't deal with it it's too much and so the memory shatters and is placed in all kinds of boxes that are wrong okay and so it never,

it's in those box.

So if you, you know, you were robbed by a guy with big logging boots,

you might remember in your stored memory logging boots of that guy.

Every time you see somebody with logging boots, you're like, I don't trust that guy.

But you don't know why.

Because that part of the picture was misfiled.

Okay.

And so you can redo that with something called EMDR, and it's great if you want to look into it.

It's really a good thing.

However,

this is what they're tracking.

Let me ask you,

if you're tracking eyes, or for instance, if we can make it look like you're always looking at the camera, which is a new device out, and is great, it's always looking at the camera when you're on a webcast.

And that's because you look down away from the camera.

And so you can tell when person's talking to you, they're not looking at you and it's kind of bothersome to people look at me look at me that's a human need

so

now

we can put devices or we can put software to make it always look to animate your eyes so it always looks like you're looking directly at the camera or the person on the other end

Why is eye contact so important?

Eye contact is the window of the soul.

You have the ability to look somebody in the eye.

Look me in the eye and tell me that.

We know when people look away, when they look down, when they look up,

we can become more suspicious of people because they don't make eye contact.

Okay.

So will this being put on our computers where it's correcting that?

So it always looks like, I mean, you wait, look away for a minute, but you're always making eye contact.

In real life,

when I meet somebody who's not giving eye contact all the time, and not necessarily because they're dishonest, do I trust them?

Do I trust them less because I've now been raised

in this, you know, digital world where everybody looks me in the eye and then in real life, they're not looking me in the eye?

When I'm looking somebody, when you're looking at somebody in the eye, when you're with somebody, that tells you something.

I'm boring.

Like right now, Stu's kind of drifting off and I know that I'm bored.

See, look at his eyes.

You can tell if you're watching the Blaze, he's gone.

And a normal person would be like, I should let him talk for a minute, but I'm not going to because I'm not a normal person.

You're drooling now.

Okay.

Sorry.

I mean, the question is, we are changing everything.

There are things,

there are things that...

You know, that picture shatters because you can't process it.

Okay.

at the time.

You can't process that.

And so there's all these protection things and animal things with all of us that we store and are directly tied to our eyes and our brain.

We've never been this close to being able to

tell

everything and show you images that are wrong.

What does that do?

And it's happening so fast with all the AI stuff that's out there now.

And, you know, we talked about this maybe a week ago about how we started this giant experiment with phones in 2009, 2010, 2011.

All of the depression rates, all of the suicide rates, everything else skyrockets from almost exactly that period.

And no one's talking about why.

And we all made this decision to join in this giant experiment all at the same time.

We're seeing the results are terrible.

And now we're like, let's triple down.

Like, this is much, much more intense, much, much worse than the phone thing.

But we're jumping into that.

And that is as inevitable as the phone for most people.

You know, that's why I urge you to do your homework on these things now and decide.

Otherwise, you will fall into it just like you fell into the phone.

And it's over.

And it's over.

All right.

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