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Well, the elites have arrived in Davos

and conspiracy theories thrive online.

Wow, that's the headline from the Associated Press.

Also,

happens to be one of the things the Davos elite are dealing with.

Misinformation about how charitable and wonderful this group really is.

We'll give you the details on what's happening in Davos because it ties directly to your life

in 60 seconds.

First, let me ask you something.

The one thing

that villains have throughout history, what do they all had on their side when it came time for them to become tyrants?

Give you a hint, same thing the World Economic Forum has on its side this week in Davos, and that thing is complacency.

Enough people who don't understand, haven't understood history, or are buying into the lies and they won't stand up and say, hey, wait a minute, wait a minute.

I don't want any of that.

So, what do we do when the next bad guy comes along?

Do we just sit there owning nothing, being happy, eating zip bugs?

Where does it all end?

What can we do?

What must we do?

Well, the first thing you have to do is educate yourself, your children, and everyone we can as a people.

So, people can spot the villains before they get anywhere close to holding any real power or influence.

Time is ticking, but our children need to learn this.

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All right, so let me just give you this.

Let me give you this story from the Associated Press.

When some of the world's wealthiest and most influential figures gather at the World Economic Forum's annual meeting last year, sessions on climate change drew high-level discussions on topics such as carbon financing and sustainable food systems.

But an entirely different narrative played out on the internet, where social media users claimed leaders wanted to force the population to eat insects instead of meat in the name of saving the environment.

Oh, by the way,

I should point this out.

In a completely unrelated story,

I just saw this guy.

I was doing some research on another story in Canada, and I came across, you can find it, CanadianManufacturing.com.

Some really good news.

Aspire Food Group has announced that it has completed construction of its alternative protein manufacturing facilities in London, Ontario, which is now the home to the world's largest cricket production facility.

Aspire's new plant will reportedly produce 9,000 metric tons of crickets every year for human and pet consumption.

That's about 2 billion insects to be distributed annually across Canada and throughout the United States.

Now, I don't know about you, but I've been waiting for a plant to make 9,000 metric tons of crickets.

The demand is going crazy for I hear it all the time.

People, my friends here in Texas, we're all talking, hey, do you have any crickets?

I'm out of crickets, the supply line for crickets.

But the good news is, Aspire Food Group has completed their production facility.

They're ready now to just start sending out the crickets.

What was I talking about?

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Elites arrive in Davos and conspiracy theories online, blah, blah, blah.

Some conspiracy theorists force the population to eat sex.

The annual event in the Swiss ski resort town of Davos, which opens

today,

has has increasingly become a target of bizarre claims from a growing chorus of commentators who believe the forum involves a group of elites manipulating global events for their own benefit.

Experts say that it was once a conspiracy theory found in the internet's underbelly, but now it has hit the mainstream.

One of the things that apparently these conspiracy theorists are talking about is how

the World Economic Forum had the great reset ready to go and were part of, you know, the WHO and all of the plans to shut down the economies of the world when it came to a, you know, some sort of a pandemic.

And then people started with those conspiracy theories.

And the World Economic Forum, you know, started warning misinformation, you got to control that misinformation.

And they did.

Hey,

sorry, I'm so riddled with ADD.

You know, that cricket story I was just telling you about.

The reason why I was looking up at Canada and seeing some things up in Canada was because

there's a story up in Canada that's out today.

Danielle Stephanie Warriner.

She was sitting alone in a Toronto hospital.

She was wearing a blue medical gown and she was sitting in kind of like a wheelchair

and she has her mask down off of her face, but that's because she went to the hospital because she was having a hard time breathing.

So she couldn't have the mask over her face.

She didn't have COVID, by the way, but she couldn't put the mask over her face.

because she couldn't breathe.

But, you know, hey, rules are rules.

So the nurse came out, started yelling at her, and then two security guards came.

In fact, we have a little film of it.

There you see Danielle.

If you happen to be watching on the Blaze, here comes the nurse to yell at her.

You've got to put that mask on your face.

She's like, I can't breathe.

So the security guards are given gowns, and the security guards push her up against the wall along with a nurse, and they pin her to the wall, you know, putting their arm against her chest, kind of in a George Floyd sort of way.

And there they are now wheeling her dead body in the wheelchair with such class.

She died.

She died.

Of COVID?

No, no, no.

She died of COVID-related

issues.

But don't worry, there's nobody.

I'm sorry, I got to get back to this economic store.

There is nobody that is trying to take your rights away.

That's not happening.

And the World Economic Forum and the world leaders, they haven't been doing this.

I mean, can you think of a time when all world leaders were doing the same thing, where every country was doing exactly the same thing?

I mean, sure, they all said, it's the great reset.

Sure, they all said build back better, which is from the World Economic Forum.

But can you think?

I mean, look at how different every country reacted to COVID.

And nobody lost their rights?

Sure, in China, but nowhere else.

Anyway,

so

now increasingly in mainstream corners of the internet and conservative talk shows...

Stu, I think they're talking about you.

The Great Reset has become shorthand for what skeptics say is a reorganization of society using global uncertainty as a guise to take away rights.

Now, why would you say that?

Why would you say that?

That is crazy.

Yes, they put out,

you know, their own video made by them that said by 2030, you'll own nothing, you will not have privacy, but you'll like it.

I mean,

what rights are you talking about taking away?

By the way,

you know, I got to be careful what I say here because you say the words the great reset on YouTube and

they take you off of YouTube because you can't say those things.

Oh, I'm on YouTube now.

The Great Reset, the Great Reset, The Great Reset.

Sucks, doesn't it?

Now, I can't imagine.

For instance, let me give you this conspiracy theory that it was just from right-wingers, okay?

Remember the right-winger, Richard Trumpka, came out last week,

last last Sunday.

Why are you looking confused?

Well, Richard Trumpka was an Obama-era.

Yeah, but he's spreading conspiracy theories now.

So he is clearly a right-wing Zealot.

So he comes out and he says, you know, as a consumer protection agency guy, we are now looking at gas stoves because there's this really credible source out there that did a study that says gas stoves can lead to asthma in kids.

And so

we're going to look at opening it up to public comments.

Should we restrict or ban gas stoves?

Well, of course, this was Republican scare tactics.

I mean, they're not going to do it.

There is no intention of doing it.

And nobody is suggesting this.

Nobody is.

Well,

well, okay, the Department of of Energy.

Okay, I mean,

they're looking for efficiency standards, gas furnaces.

They're going to try to get rid of gas furnaces, and there's a not yet released proposed rule for water heaters that will tilt away from gas.

I bet Republicans are going to pounce on that too.

Yeah.

When that comes up, it's just like them.

That's what they're doing.

It's just like them.

And you know who did the study?

I mean, this is, I mean,

how do you question this study?

The green energy group behind the study, you know,

cited by Richard Trumpka Jr.

to just look into banning gas stoves.

That's all he was doing.

Is partnered with the Chinese government.

And their goal is an economy-wide transformation away from oil and gas.

Now, it's a Colorado-based group from it's a nonprofit, the Rocky Mountain Institute, and it published the study that

attributes 13% of U.S.

childhood asthma cases to gas stove use.

But they don't really get into how they came up with that in the study, but don't worry about it.

The organization is demanding systematic changes to the economy-wide, total transformation to address climate crisis.

And this group says

we have to go to great lengths to avoid the climate crisis.

In 2013, they went a long way.

They have joined forces with China's National Development and Reform Commission, which is great.

And China went into business with them.

And then, you know, some of the things didn't work out.

And,

you know, the traffic lights had to be dimmed and nobody could cook on their stoves.

But, but, that was just the first trial, okay?

Now, they are they advocate the banning of gas stoves.

They advocate the banning

of gas stoves.

Okay,

the study, which spans nine paragraphs, was based on a a bunch of hodgepodge different data and methodologies spanning various years and countries.

And really, nobody can really make sense of it.

The

experts at Yale University say, yeah, it's a little more than questionable the way they put this together.

No.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now,

I just want to tell you that you should not worry

when we have a government official citing something,

you know, like this study.

It's from Colorado.

What could possibly be wrong?

Now, I will say, I will say that they have a board of directors, but look how strong the board of directors are.

Board members,

Wee Ding.

Who doesn't love Wee Ding?

That's a sentence I've...

Wee Ding, that's a name.

He's the founder and chairman of the Chinese equity firm Broad River Capital.

He started the firm after serving as chairman of the China International Capital Corporation.

It's a state-owned investment bank.

And the executives, Chinese leader Xi Jinping's vice president, right-hand man,

Wang Kisan.

And they have deep participation in China's economic reforms and development.

And their goal is to serve the nation.

Rocky Mountain Institute also sits on China Clean Transportation Partnership, a Chinese green energy nonprofit whose founding members include China's National Development Development and Reform Commission and Ministry of Transport.

So they, you know, yes, yes, yes, yes, they're deeply in bed with communist China.

And, you know, who wins if the United States gets off of oil and gas and China doesn't?

Okay, China.

What is our president, you know, his son in bed with China, who got the Bagram Air Force base after we okay, China.

But I'm sure this is all

just because

gas stoves are very dangerous very very dangerous and it's a conspiracy anyway it's not happening okay it's all just Republicans thrusting this issue into the culture force and this they they don't have any power World Economic Forum no power at all they're skiing this week That's what they're doing.

They're skiing.

Man, it's just a bunch of rich people getting together.

Get over it.

It's not going to affect your life.

Man, when do those bugs start to arrive in America?

I can't wait.

Okay.

Oh, there's another story out today.

Coincidentally, it has nothing to do with anything.

Wall Street Journal says the central bank digital currency where you'll have a bank account with the Federal Reserve.

Yeah, that's coming whether you like it or not, because we just have to do it.

But that's a conspiracy.

It's not going to happen.

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You know, gee, well, I mean, I'm not saying it's quid pro quo, but we are looking for good candidates to back.

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West Virginia has been a great state to stop a lot lot of this nonsense.

Probably, I think,

maybe only behind Florida.

But most of it comes from the state legislature.

I'm sorry, the state treasurer and the legislature getting on board.

And the treasurer is Riley Moore.

Hello, Riley.

How are you?

Glenn, how are you?

Thanks for having me back on.

You bet.

First of all, thanks for all your work with ESG.

You know, the AP is reporting today that

all this great reset stuff is

all fiction.

It doesn't affect the average person.

And these people in Davos, they don't have any power to do anything.

Oh, sure, sure.

No, just the trillions of dollars under their control, I'm sure, gives them no power whatsoever.

No power.

No power.

You are actually, I wanted to have you on because you have introduced legislation prohibiting the tracking of guns and ammo purchases via debit and credit card transactions.

And this is something that the administration is working on,

and

they're working on it through the banking sector.

Can you explain?

Yes, Glenn.

And, you know, this

is a...

going to sound very similar to what we've heard on the fossil fuel side as it relates to ESG, but this would be the S, the social part of ESG.

So I've introduced what's called the Second Amendment Financial Privacy Act.

And let me give just a little bit of background here just so people understand how this came about.

So in September last year, 28 members of Congress, led by Senator Elizabeth Warren, sent public letters to

the largest credit card companies and also

to the financial institutions out there that deal with them, the banks.

And what they asked for is a new merchant category code, MCC.

And this is how they code all different transactions.

But what they wanted specifically is an MCC code in place to track purchases of guns.

and ammunition.

And now, they were very upfront about why they want this.

This is a backdoor national gun registry.

The Liberals have wanted this forever.

They've talked about it.

They can't achieve it at the ballot box.

So now they're using the financial services sector to be able to achieve that goal.

So what we've done here in West Virginia is introduce this bill, and it's going to do four separate things here.

One,

any financial institution that's under our jurisdiction, is going to be prohibited from sharing any information as it relates to to purchases of guns and ammunition.

Secondly, any financial institution in the state of West Virginia that operates here is going to be prohibited from utilizing a firearms code to engage in discriminatory conduct, right, that would say, all right, we're not going to work with this gun shop or merchant, or we're going to deny credit card transactions.

for people that want to buy guns and ammunition.

Thirdly, it's, and this is important, it's going to create a civil action.

It is going to create a cause of action for people who have had their Second Amendment rights violated by these woke financial institutions to be able to sue for damages.

And lastly,

any financial institution that has violated this bill, violated this act,

will be prohibited from the bidding process on any contracts with the state of West Virginia moving forward.

So this is,

and we've talked about the S.

What are we going to do on the S?

They are now taking the fight to us.

We are responding.

And

this is all about the great reset, total control of our lives.

They're going to control with the environmental side how we power our lives, right?

They're now getting rid of the gas they want to get rid of gas stovetops.

And now they're going to control our guns and ammunition.

And here's one of the scariest things about this.

You're going to have financial institutions, credit card companies, banks have the sole discretion to decide when something is, let's say,

suspicious activity.

Okay, I bought

too much ammunition this month, or I bought too many firearms this month.

They're going to then decide to flag that for the Feds or law enforcement.

I mean, this is unbelievable.

How is the legislature in West Virginia reacting to this?

Do you think this is going to pass?

Oh, this is definitely going to pass.

And this bill is going to run in the House next week.

People are very excited about it.

I will say, you know, certainly Florida had a great big red wave there.

We also had one for ourselves here in West Virginia in the House.

We now control 88 out of 100 seats in the House, and we have 31 of 34 senators in the Senate.

And this bill is going to fly through.

So that's really weird because Republicans didn't do well a lot of places, and yet the places like Florida and West Virginia that took on these issues head-on seem to have done really well.

That's interesting.

Riley,

I am sad to say, if this is true,

that you're looking to leave your treasurer position.

and go to Washington.

Is that true?

I am.

I am, Glenn.

I've announced to run for Congress.

I think we need people that need to get in there and fight to do.

There's only so much I can do as a state on a bill like this, and we're going to fight like hell here in West Virginia to protect our Second Amendment rights.

But these people in Washington, D.C.

need to get off their cans and start to do something about this ESG movement immediately.

And there's several things that they can do, and that's why I want to take the fight to Washington.

I will be leaving the treasurer's office, but I'm going to continue this in Washington if I'm so lucky to be elected in 2024.

Are you?

Have you prayed on this?

I have prayed a lot on this and spoken with my family.

And I, you know,

it was a hard decision.

It was a very, very hard decision, but I got to keep my faith in God.

I think

doors opened here, and I am going to go in there.

Guns are blazing.

Good.

I really appreciate everything that you've done in West Virginia for the state treasurer.

I'd hate to see you go from

a job that you're really, really good at, but we need more people in Washington that have your sensibilities as well.

Riley, can I ask you, there was a new

federal

restriction or ban on the firearms with the collapsible stock.

Do you know what I'm talking about?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

And it's like a 20-year prison sentence if you don't register them.

And I think you even have to change the stock.

I mean, if it wasn't for that boating accident, I would have had one of those.

What do you do?

Do you know?

I mean, is that like law law now?

It's done.

Well, I mean, this is an ATF regulation, my understanding, that they've been working on now for a while as it relates to collapsible stocks.

I mean, this is, you know, Washington constantly is doing this, okay, we're going to put this regulation and this rule in place, and then when we come in, we're going to repeal the rule.

These are the types of things that the new Republican majority in Congress and the people who are going to be running in 2024, so we can retake the Senate, need to be talking about.

Back to your point, in Florida and West Virginia, these are the the things we talk about.

And shockingly, guess what?

We win elections.

We win elections because we go out and do what we've been talking about, what we say.

But this is

all about control.

They don't care about the Constitution.

It has been reaffirmed time and time again.

We have a Second Amendment right to have firearms, to bear arms in this country, and that goes back to the founding of the United States.

They don't care about that.

They're trying to remake the United States.

Thank you so much again.

By the way, we're going to have more on this particular issue on tomorrow's program just to figure out exactly what we're required now to do.

Riley Moore, West Virginia State Treasurer, please keep us up to date on this passing

or, you know, running into any kind of trouble there in West Virginia.

I don't expect any.

Riley, thank you so much.

Glenn, thank you so very much.

I'd love to see this pass in every state in this country.

And is it posted someplace so other states can look at it?

Yes, it is.

It is on my website, moreforwv.com.

You can go there.

It's HB 2004, House Bill 2004 here in West Virginia.

And I have shared this with many other states around the country.

I want to see this happen everywhere and have these liberals come come challenge us in court.

Thank you so much, Riley.

This is really important.

These states that are leading, you need to take their legislation and

run it through your state.

Every state that has the ability,

and we've got, what, 16 of those states that have total control by Republicans, they should all be the strongest states.

But you got a lot of wieners in there that are not actually,

they're just big government progressive Republicans.

You need to find out which ones those are, vote them out, but you need to get these things done in your state.

The state is

where

we can truly make a difference.

All right, that was the second amendment.

I want to go to the first amendment when we come back.

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I mean, they're from Canada.

You know, they're being in a, they're from a giant manufacturing plant in Canada.

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Don't import our bugs.

Right.

In the meantime, let's say, let's not import our meat.

You know, we've got ranchers here.

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We have fisheries here.

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Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee here from Texas has introduced a bill criminalizing conspiracy to commit white supremacy.

Harmee Dillon, who should be our next head of the GOP,

said Sheila Jackson Lee just introduced a bill that would make it a federal crime for white people and white people only to criticize mass immigration or say anything that she claims would vilify a non-white person or group.

What could possibly go wrong with something like that?

There's another story out today.

It was done by the Daily Wire, and it was on my interview with Richard Dreyfus.

And it is so important that you at least read this story, But I would say listen to this podcast and share it with a friend that you think is on the other side.

Richard Dreyfus talks about, you know, he was a communist.

He was a communist and still disagrees with a lot of stuff.

And I disagree with a lot of stuff he says.

But listen to this.

Dreyfus joined Beck in an interview to discuss his book, One Thought Scares Me.

We teach our children what we wish them to know.

We don't teach our children what we don't wish them to know.

know.

He said he gave up acting only for something he loved as much,

which was

saving his country.

I loved my job of acting since I was nine years old,

and I left it for something I love just as much, saving my country.

And I firmly believe if we don't revive the study of civics, we will be dead before 2050.

We'll have the same name, but it will be a nightmare.

I've led such a blessed life, and I gave it up for a blessed life.

He said, it infuriates me that people don't understand what this place means, Dreyfus added, his voice breaking.

He actually broke down and cried at this point.

What an advance on human progress this country is all about, and how quickly we can seem to abandon it without even a second thought.

He said

that one of the things he was concerned about was the attitude people had about opposing views.

They don't know that opposing views are entwined and threaded through the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and what we show the world we believe in.

You know, there's a very simple thing.

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Hello, you sick twisted.

Welcome to it.

The World Economic Forum, which has absolutely no power, is not trying to control your life.

They're not infiltrating, you know, cabinets of prime ministers and presidents all around the world.

Although they've said all of those things, those are not true.

The AP wants you to know that's not true.

In fact, the World Economic Forum, the managing director last August said, this whole conspiracy of us trying to make sure that nobody has anything started as a screenshot culled from the the internet by an anonymous anti-Semitic account on the image boards of 4chan.

Own nothing.

You'll be happy.

That was the Jew World Order 2030, said the post.

And that's, all the extremists picked that up.

That's weird because

that's not true.

But that's from the World Economic Forum.

The guy who brought this to my attention was Michael Schellenberger.

He's,

he calls it a grift and a cult.

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you're growing into one of my favorite people on the planet, Michael.

Oh, thanks so much, man.

Good to be with you, Blen.

Yeah.

I read

your takedown or your observations of the World Economic Forum.

They are coming out today and saying misinformation is one of the things they have to tackle.

I think it was number five on their list of most dangerous threats was misinformation.

And they're claiming people like you, people like me, are just nothing

but misinformation or disinformation agents about

the WEF.

Well, yeah, I mean,

you know, there's been just dozens, I mean, hundreds of articles saying there's these conspiracy theories about this thing called the World Economic Forum.

The conspiracy theories claim that the World Economic Forum wants a great reset, that they want you to eat insects rather than meat, and that they don't want you to own anything or have any privacy, and that you'll be happier if you do that.

Okay, those are all supposedly conspiracy theories.

Well, my colleague Isabella Kaminska, who actually used to work at Financial Times, which is a great fan of the World Economic Forum,

and she'd been investigating them for almost a decade, and I both just published a piece where All of those things are not only true, the great reset, insects as the new meat, and and owning nothing and having no privacy, those are not only true things, they're actually from the World Economic Forum's Davos Summit itself and from the website.

They say they want transparency, but they've actually deleted a number of those things.

Yep.

They

say they want more they want they want to know our financial information.

Okay, that's like part of what gets promoted at these conferences.

Like we should know what's in your bank account and we should probably be able to control it too, as we saw in Canada with the truckers.

That comes in handy if you're trying to, you know,

move away from a democratic system to an authoritarian one.

So, they want that, too.

But then, when we say, well,

how do you invest your money?

They wouldn't tell us.

And they just said, Swiss law means we don't have to tell you.

Well, sure, Swiss law says that.

Are you familiar with Switzerland's banking laws?

Yes, I think.

Well, maybe Klaus might not have, but I think his father was clear clear about the Swiss banking laws.

Like, you know, his father

ran a Swiss company in Germany during World War II, during the Holocaust.

Historians who have looked into this said that indeed he did

use forced labor, you know,

Jewish labor during the Holocaust, during World War II.

That's not actually in question.

He

is a

very creepy person.

And so the natural sense, I mean, I think it's okay to say that because

I'm using it in a technical sense.

The creepy feeling you get from Klaus Schwab is accurate.

Yes.

The basic picture of World Economic Forum as a creepy event

is accurate.

His father believed in public-private partnerships, which is fascism.

That's the definition of fascism.

You own the company, but the country,

the authoritarian leadership tells you exactly what you're going to make, when you're going to make it, how to do it.

And you get to keep your country.

It's exactly what's happening in China.

That's not communism.

That's more fascistic in nature, the way they run

their businesses over there.

He was a fan of it.

Klaus is still a fan of it.

That, I mean, forget about the Holocaust for a second, but that's the basis of what Germany was going for on the economic front.

Correct?

Of course.

Yes.

I mean, that's what

every school child learns.

I mean, it's almost a kind of,

it's a kind of thuggery.

It's a kind of mob rule

by these con artists.

I mean, look, your intuitive intuition against eating bugs is correct.

There's all sorts of parasites

in these bugs.

It's obviously not a human custom.

You know, my wife is Korean-American, and I spent much time in Korea, and her parents said they ate bugs, and I ate some bugs.

In Korea, it's a little bit of a novelty.

Some people like it, most people don't.

Most Koreans like to eat beef.

And when my wife asked her father about the insect eating, he said, you know, we we were poor and starving, you know, during the war.

So insect eating, the idea that insect eating is sort of something that these, that noble Asians and Africans do is nonsense.

And so it really does come out, and they say it very clearly in promoting insect eating, that they don't want you to eat meat.

So then if you go and report that

what it is, they come out and say that it's a conspiracy theory.

But when you go check on their own website, that's what they say.

And it's basically all the things that you've been writing about.

I mean, I think ultimately you and Russell Brand and the other major critics of the World Economic Forum are proven correct in what we discovered.

And not only that, but I think it's going to ultimately destroy the organization.

Most world leaders, I think in part because of this heavy backlash against World Economic Forum, did not go.

Only the German chancellor went, and he has to go to every one of these events to suck up to world leaders

and cheeks and stuff because he needs oil and gas.

Right.

So, but other world leaders don't want to go because they know

it's bad for their PR,

but they know it hurts their image.

And you saw Elon Musk responded to me on Twitter, you know, saying, yeah, it seems like,

you know, while everybody would support dialogue, it's a creepy event.

But didn't he just say it seemed boring?

I thought that was an odd statement for him to make.

He's smarter than that.

I mean, sure.

You know, I mean, mean, I think look, I think part of the thing we discovered as well is that this is also how they rip you off.

This is the grift part of it, is that when you and I buy

stocks or people have pensions and retirement funds that are buying stocks, they're not getting the early stock or the early investment money.

That's the stuff that gets traded at Davos.

So in the front house, they talk about we love the environment and racial equality.

That's the main story.

And then behind the scenes, they're just doing grifty type deals.

And we're seeing it bust on people.

A lot of people got into crypto.

A lot of money got lost.

You know, it wasn't a real asset.

You know, and so for me, I think for Izzy and me, that's the name of my co-author on this,

so we were like, well, what is the right thing to say?

Is it a grift?

Yes.

Is it a cult?

Around this kind of creepy dude, Klaus Schwab.

Yes.

But it is also a bid for global domination in the sense that they want to take hold of the economy, and they're doing that.

I mean, the energy economy at this point in Europe and heavily in the United States is overwhelmingly controlled by governments because they put so many subsidies in it that they're basically controlling it.

And now because they've made electricity unreliable in the United States, they're going to have to create yet another set of subsidies just to pay somebody to try to keep power plants operating when the sun is not shining and the wind is not blowing.

So it is making progress.

Klaus Schwab is sick.

It may be that in the future, because you and Russell have so demonized the World Economic Forum so successfully, it may be like something else.

But definitely global elites are constantly trying to take advantage of ordinary retirement holding citizens with their stocks and bonds and whatever.

But there's also this kind of creepy, low energy, return to, you know, 18th century economies.

Yes.

Kind of an ideology behind it.

We've talked about it before.

It's malfus.

It's low energy living.

You should be basically, the idea is basically you should be poorer.

Yes.

That's the idea.

Eat insects, don't eat meat, don't own anything, don't have any privacy.

This is pretty terrible.

It's gone back to serfdom.

That is, you don't own anything because the king owns it or one of his lords.

You're not going to invent anything because you don't don't get anything from it.

You're not going to improve your life because you can't.

You can't improve your station ever because you can't own anything.

I mean, it's right back to the feudal system.

In the meeting, Klaus Schwab opened up yesterday and he said, we have to master the future.

And what he was talking about was

there are so many

crises that are going on right now that they have to master them and use them to push us into this new world.

That's the only thing that, I mean, if we had time on our side, I would think that we are going to beat them.

But I think this is going to be a photo finish at the wire on who wins

on this if people don't wake up to,

their tentacles are everywhere.

And when you have a crisis and

they're creating all of these crises, when you have a crisis of food, when you have a crisis of money, people will just reach out for whoever is going to say, I have the solution.

Well, yeah, absolutely.

I mean, I think though, the one thing that's proven that you've proven and Russell Brand have proven and others have proven is that World Economic Forum, when you actually learn what it's promoting, is wildly unpopular.

That's why the change in the media environment, you know, and it starts of course with radio, but the internet really takes it to another level,

means that the old regime struggles constantly.

So why are they always talking about disinformation?

It's because people like us are out here explaining that actually that is what they want.

They want the bugs, the not owning anything, and a move to low energy living.

Grey Reset, remember, was always just like, we're going to stop using fossil fuels and nuclear and reliable energy and we're going to use unreliable solar and wind and only whenever that is possible because of the weather.

That was what the Great Reset was.

And fundamentally, the organization is about

what they call sustainability, what I think we would call basically making everybody much poorer.

Yes.

You know, returning to a kind of a miseration that we had before the Industrial Revolution, before we had reliable energy sources sources and energy dense fuels.

So yeah, it's a pretty

and all I can say is that you're right.

I totally agree.

In other words, there's a fight going on between those of us that think that

individuals and families and nations should be able to determine their own identity and a group of other people that think it should be worked out by the supposedly smart elites,

working out of think tanks and UN meetings and business conferences.

And, you know, Elon, you know, he's a complicated person, and I've gotten to know him a little bit.

But, I mean, what I would say is I think he's seen the dark side of that hyper-wokeism.

And his purchase of Twitter is maybe the most significant thing he's done because he's

basically said ordinary people should be on an equal platform to communicate as elites, and we should stop censoring.

ordinary folks because the elites demand it.

Michael Schellenberger, thank you for everything that you do.

Appreciate it.

Always great to have you on.

God bless.

Great to be with you, Glenn.

Thank you.

Michael Schellenberger, he is the author of San Francisco.

If you haven't read his work,

he's not a conservative.

He's just common sense and

was at one point the

friend of the earth from Time magazine.

He was like on the cover of Time magazine as the, you know, the best

climate justice kind of guy.

Nope, nope, not so much.

He doesn't agree with any of the stuff that is going on right now.

He thinks it is a grift.

And good to have him check in on the World Economic Forum.

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By the way,

those that are going, Joe Biden isn't going, but he had to sing happy birthday.

Do we have it have the happy birthday?

He did this for Martin Luther King's, I think, granddaughter.

And

it was beautiful.

Listen, here it it is.

Well, look, my wife has a rule in her family.

When somebody's birthday, you sing happy birthday.

You ready?

Yeah.

Happy birthday to you.

Happy birthday to you.

Happy birthday, dear Zalvin.

Happy birthday to you.

I love you.

You know, my wife has a rule when you sing happy birthday, especially if you're leading, you should know the person's name.

But that's just a custom in our house.

Or be smart enough to like step off from the mic as you're singing.

Have a coughing fit.

Yep.

Right about BT.

It happens to him all the time.

Everyone would have believed it.

Yep.

Okay.

Anyway,

he's not going to be at the World Economic Forum, but the climates are.

John Kerry is there.

Biden's trade representative, Biden's Secretary of Labor, the FBI head, Christopher Wray, U.S.

Director of National Intelligence.

Samantha Power is there, U.S.

Agency for International Development.

Governor Brian Kemp.

Gretchen Whitmer.

J.B.

Prisker is there.

Also, Congressman.

Let's see, and senators.

Senator Chris Coons,

Maria Cantwell, James Reich,

Joe Manchin, Christian Sinema is there.

House reps from California, New York, Florida, New Jersey, and Massachusetts are also over on the slopes.

It's great.

No, it's fantastic.

It is fantastic.

Let's see.

What else is going on?

Oh, you know, I think it's about time that we have the conversation about the hate monger, Mr.

Rogers.

Okay.

We have to have that conversation.

It's time.

It's time.

This has been floating around for a while, and it's time.

I mean, now it's starting to really break in, and everybody is seeing it.

Can we play this hateful clip warning?

Trigger warning here.

Boys are boys from the beginning.

If you were born a boy, you stay a boy.

Girls are girls right from the start.

If you were born a girl, you stay a girl and grow up to be a lady.

Only girls can be the mommies.

Oh, only girls can.

Only boys can be the daddies.

How dare he?

I mean,

we ought to dig that guy up and just beat the snot out of him.

You know what I mean?

It used to be like okay because everyone knew it was true and like everyone could say it.

And then weird was a time.

I think everybody still knows it's true.

I do too.

But they're just afraid to say it.

Are you afraid to say it?

I'm not.

I'm not afraid to say it.

Only girls can be mummies.

I'm really willing to say it.

And the way he said it was mummies, which I think boys can be mummies.

Yeah.

Right.

I think he meant mummies, but he kind of said it in an English sort of way way for some unknown reason.

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So I want to play something for you, and believe it or not, I have a very deep point on this.

It's not just to

certainly not to make fun of Chelsea Handler.

It is to remind people you should stop listening to people like this.

This is my first point, but this is not the deep point.

She's a moron.

She was on

The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, and she told a story

that

she made an admission that she really didn't understand something.

And if you don't understand this,

what else don't you understand?

This is a pretty basic thing, and this is coming from a woman who has lectured us morally and intellectually, our superior on, you know, how to live our lives.

Listen to this admission on Jimmy Fallon.

I didn't know, and this is true, I didn't know until I was 40 years old that the sun and the moon were not the same thing.

I found it hard to believe, but what are you talking about?

I was shocking to me as well.

I mean,

of course, it must have been more shocking to you.

It was like, I was in Africa, we were on Safari, my sister and I were riding an elephant, and there was a man riding an elephant for us because we don't know how to ride an elephant.

And my older sister, Simone, looked up

at the sky and she said, Chelsea, Chelsea, look up.

It's not often you get to see the sun and the moon at the same time.

And I was like,

I was like, Scooby-Doo.

I'm like,

I said it, I go, wait, I go, but they're always together.

And as soon as I said that, she turned around, she goes, what did you say?

And I was like, oh, shut up, shut up, shut up.

I'm like, I knew what I said was wrong.

Gideon velvet.

I was like, let's canter.

Is that what an elephant does?

Oh, my God.

And she looked at me and she goes, I need you.

And I just tried to gloss over it.

I was like, never mind mind what I said, I know.

And she said, no, I need you to tell me what you think is happening between the sun and the moon.

And I was like, honestly, I just assumed when the sun went down, it popped back up as the moon.

The little costume change.

Like, is that not what's happening?

The man riding the elephant spoke no English and went, boom.

And he's just like another dumb American.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Absolutely true.

Okay.

Stop listening to these people.

They're morons.

They're morons.

Because, you know, look, I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer either, but that's pretty darn basic.

Pretty darn basic.

Wow.

Okay.

So she's, what, 47 years old?

She's almost 50 years old.

The mentality of these elites, that they are so morally and intellectually superior,

and that, you know, everything is old-fashioned.

And, you know,

you need to learn.

It's more important

than facts to learn the new facts that are cool.

You know,

men are able to have babies.

my problem in doing this show is I am

speechless for the first time in your life.

That's about what it sounds like.

Yeah,

because I'm

very transparent

with my life.

And this is coming from someplace else that is happening in my life.

And let me just say this to you.

Our children have no idea that we, no.

Parents, you have no idea

how confused and lost your children really are.

It might seem like they get it, but...

Chelsea Handler is, I mean,

she is,

she's a genius in today's world.

They're not learning the things that they need to learn, and they're learning all of these things that are really horrible, that are counter to everything that is an eternal truth.

I'm going to give you another story here today, and I don't know if anybody can see where I'm going

when I make this connection, but

this is a story out of England.

And it is a story about how Satanism is becoming very popular.

But there's no blood rituals anymore.

There's no murder.

There's no sacrifice.

There's no blood rites to Satan.

We don't worship the devil.

We don't cast magic spells.

says the leader of the satanic temple

in England.

Okay.

He said, yeah, we do occult rituals and, you know, there's no virgin sacrifices or chalices of blood.

And we don't believe in the actual devil or Satan.

That's a thing of the past.

Satanism is

alluring to young people now because

everything in religion is outdated and dogmatic and traditional.

And you're told that you have to offer yourself.

You have to change your ways.

The Sunday Telegraph, I'm reading, spoken to leaders of members of the satanic groups around the world who claim that the opportunities Satanism offers people to engage in activism and they campaign on

issues such as gender sexuality is part of the appeal for younger members, particularly those who are less likely to declare themselves Christian.

The guy who is the,

well,

he runs the Global Order of Satan, UK.

He's an undertaker

for a job.

He says he has a 200% increase in membership over the last five years.

He said, I wish I could claim that we could pat ourselves on the back and say, yeah,

we've done our internal work here.

I'm quoting.

We're successfully declining the number of Christians, but it's more complex than that.

He said two factors are responsible: the decreasing popularity of traditional dogmatic religions and a movement towards self-identification and self-realization.

He said, This amongst younger people, they don't want to be identified as part of a prescriptive dogmatic religion.

Instead, they want to identify with their own self-belief and their own self-realization, which is what Satanism offers.

They are now turning away, he says, from incredibly outdated, very obviously stuffy views that are completely not in keeping with modern times.

You know what?

He's absolutely right.

He's absolutely right.

Those stuffy religious ideas that come from the Bible,

they are not

in line with contemporary ideas and contemporary living.

And if you want an easy life where you will be accepted and things are going to be really peachy and swell for you for a while,

And I emphasize for a while, as an alcoholic, I know how things,

how taking the easy route and just not dealing with stuff, not dealing with reality, just have a drink.

You'll be that'll all go away.

You won't have to worry about it.

For a while, and then it all comes crashing down on your head.

If you

if you

we don't know what our kids are faced with.

We have no idea.

I would not

want to be one.

I would not want to be a kid in today's world.

They are confused and they are being confused intentionally.

Social media and the phone that they all look at 24 hours a day

is the enemy in their pocket.

It is also part of their life now.

And we are going to get to a point to where I swear to God, I'm going to be driving a buggy soon.

I am,

I mean,

we are not going to be able to protect our families in this society.

And

Christians, it's going to get really hard to be a Christian when

Satanists can say, oh,

we're not really,

I mean, we're not really Satanists.

I mean, you know, Satanism is a young person's religion, you know, and it's just a diversification.

That's it.

That's all it is.

And we just explore,

you know, your identity, your interest, your values, your beliefs.

Oh,

okay.

And they say that we're, you know, Satan is just more metaphorical, you know, he's just the rebel.

That's all he is.

We don't believe in a higher power.

Instead, we revolve around a religion of the self.

Think of that in today's society.

Forget it, what came from him.

A religion of the self.

And it's up to individuals to define their own moral code

and to develop themselves as their own Godhead.

Sure, we get around, you know, we get together, do rituals in the forest and stuff,

you know,

and you know, we have a community bonding and meditation to give people the time to develop your own personal vision of yourself as Satan,

but we don't mean that literally.

I

want you to write to me and tell me how I can help you as a parent.

Because as a parent,

my kids are, and I'm not

Satanist and stuff like that, but

my kids are

so lost right now.

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And, you know, I know I'm not alone in some of these concerns.

Stu and I were just talking about parenting today.

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Brad, it is a thrill to have you in studio.

Again, you have a new book out called The Nazi Conspiracy.

I had no idea this was even

had been planned.

The secret plot to kill Roosevelt, Stalin, and Churchill.

At the height of World War II, Nazis are planning to kill the big three.

I didn't know the story either.

How do you know?

I mean, how is this?

You watch certain history channels, and it's all World War II Nazi stuff.

I mean, you think you know everything.

I've never heard that.

And listen, I obviously watch those same shows.

I love World War II.

I never knew the story.

I don't think the internet is good for many things, but it's good for obscure historical.

stories and I found scrolling through my feed I found the story years ago it was a tiny mention maybe a half-page-page article.

It had barely any facts.

I'm like, you're telling me the Nazis tried to kill FDR, Stalin, and Churchill, the height of World War II, and you and I don't know about this story.

I'm like, I got to know.

And just to paint the picture, it's 1943.

It's the moment where Joseph Stalin wants us to invade the

continental Europe.

He's getting decimated by the Nazis.

We, of course, the United Kingdom and the United States are sending munitions and weapons, but he's like, no, you need to invade, basically do what becomes the invasion of Normandy.

And FDR realizes we got to get the big three together.

We have to look each other in the eye, plan troop movements, plan supplies, plan morale, and millions of lives, Glenn, are at stake.

You know, this is it.

And really look each other in the eyes.

Also, you paint a great picture in the book of the moment the Japanese hit Pearl Harbor and what that was like in the White House.

And then you go overseas and what it was like with Churchill.

And he's having, I think it was dinner with the ambassador of the United States at the time.

And he finds out.

And what I love in that moment when you see Churchill, because we've all heard the story of Pearl Harbor, we show you it a different way.

A totally different way.

In a way you've never seen before.

And what I love is in the moments after, we always tell the story in America that, you know, we punched the Nazis in the jaw, we won, you know,

we saved democracy for the world, and that's the end.

And that's a beautiful story, but that's the Hollywood version.

It was much more complex and actually much more amazing for America to see what we had to do to get there.

And what I love is when Pearl Harbor happens, we, of course, declare war against the Japanese.

But they'd say to Adolf Hitler, stay out of it.

His own advisor, like, stay out of it.

Don't mess with America.

We don't need this now.

And Hitler slaps his leg, literally slaps his leg and says, this is great that it happened.

We're going to declare war on them because strong people declare war.

They don't wait to be declared war on.

And Winston Churchill remembers this quote he heard about the United States.

He says, that the United States is like a gigantic boiler.

And once you light a fire under it, there is no limit to the amount of power it will produce.

And Winston Churchill is exactly right.

And we are on.

And this story, you know, as we're, as the big three are coming together, which Churchill doesn't trust Stalin.

No one trusts Stalin, right?

The FDR doesn't trust him at all because he was on the side of the Germans for a while.

He started the war on the side of the Nazis.

The only reason he comes to our side is because Hitler invades.

And he's like, oh, you're going to invade us?

I'll be on the Ally side now.

You know, he's not a good person.

No.

And, you know, we've done books on, we did the secret plot to kill George Washington and we did George Washington.

We did the Lincoln conspiracy about the secret plot to kill Abraham Lincoln, the first plot, not the John Wokes Booth plot.

And when I look at what makes a good president, it's not the person that makes the best promises.

It's not the person that makes the best speeches.

It's the person who, when a disaster strikes, can pivot and deal with that disaster and be the right person for that right moment in time.

And FDR in that moment, whenever anyone thinks of his politics, he has one belief in himself and it's his ability to charm.

And he's like, I'm going to charm Stalin because I know Stalin likes me better than you, Churchill, right?

And he knows that Churchill, of course, prefers him to Stalin.

And FDR is the right guy.

He brings these three together.

And Tehran, Iran, of all places, which, again, I was like, how did I not know this?

And in Tehran, what's so wild is...

Well, you knew that they were there.

I knew, right?

I know the Tehran conference, but I know that the assassination plot took place there.

But so here comes FDR, flies across the globe.

This is the big meeting.

Millions of lives truly at stake.

This meeting must take place of the big three.

And it comes to town, and the motorcade is moving through the center of the city, and everyone's craning their neck because they want to see the president of the United States.

FDR is in town.

And they're waving at the motorcade, president's waving back.

What none of them know is that that is not FDR in the motorcade.

That's just a Secret Service decoy.

The real president, the real FDR is ducked down and hiding in the back of a beat-up sedan, racing through the side streets because they're worried that there's a Nazi assassin who's about to kill him.

I just ruined chapter one of the Nazi conspiracy for you, but that is chapter one.

It's so well done, too.

I mean, I was,

honestly, because I love your novels, love your novels.

And when I found out that this was a Nazi, that this is a history book, I thought, okay, well, he's really good at history, but I really wanted a novel to escape.

I get into the first chapter and it's over for me.

I'm just, I mean, you write it like a thriller.

Well, that's the thing is, you know, for me, you know, I love these stories, but I don't want to read an encyclopedia entry.

I don't want to read some boring things.

So, and we all know FDR and we all know Winston Church and we all know Joseph Stahl.

We know those names.

We grew up with those names.

What I love are the people you don't know in this book.

So there's a Nazi in there named Otto Scorzeni.

And Otto Scorzeni gets the call from Adolf Hitler one day to come down to Adolf Hitler's secret headquarters, the Wolf's Lair.

And you know you're in trouble when the word lair is in the title.

You know you're not going for a party.

And Adolf Hitler wants all of his best special operations fighters, which Otto Skorzen is one of.

He's a special ops guy.

He wants to find the toughest and strongest one.

And he lines up all the special op guys in this big room, shoulder to shoulder, and he gives them a quiz of one question.

What do you think of Italy?

Adolf Hitler says.

And they all give these kind of macho answers saying, oh, you know, Italy's on our side.

We'll fight to the death with them.

You know, thank you for all this.

Otto Scorzeni, this one Nazi, shouts out above everybody else, I am from Austria, my Führer.

And he's gambling because he knows Adolf Hitler is from Austria.

And he also knows that a true Austrian forever resents Italy because in World War I, they took a key piece of Italy and of Austria and never gave it back.

So at that moment, Adolf Hitler turns to Otto Scorzeny and he's like, you're my guy.

You're my guy.

And he sends him on a secret mission.

We won't ruin this part of the book, but he sends him on a secret mission that is so crazy and so wild that Josh mentioned, I'm my co-writer in the book, said that we need to put an actual photograph of this secret mission in the book because people will not believe this really happened.

Nazis falling from the sky, an 80% casualty rate is what they predict.

It is this amazing moment.

The end result of this secret mission earns Otto Scorzeni the nickname the most dangerous man in Europe.

And this is the craziest Nazi story you've never heard in your life.

Why?

I know.

Well, and the thing is,

it doesn't even stop with him, right?

There's a guy in there named Franz Mayer.

So there's two Nazis that play a key role in this assassination plot.

And Franz Mayer is a guy who's on the ground in Tehran.

The truth is the Nazis think he's dead.

They think he's captured when the Allies come there.

They're like, he's done.

But he's actually spent a couple years making, finding other people who love the Nazi cause.

He's got supplies.

He sends a message back to Berlin and says, I got a drop zone.

I got a safe place.

You can send me supplies and paratroopers.

Send me money.

And here's a secret code to put on the radio, like you and I talking.

You're going to say a certain

couple words together, and I'm going to know you got my message.

And at that moment in time, the Nazis get the greatest thing that anyone can get in a fight, which is an opportunity.

Because the big three are coming to town and they've got a guy on the inside on the ground in Tehran.

So you've got Franz Mayer on one side.

You've got Ados Gosett on another.

And Glenn,

the best part is, is that Franz Mayer is not just there because he loves the Nazi cause.

He's in love.

It's the Nazi in love.

And he loves a local woman from a wealthy family.

He's sleeping with her.

What he doesn't know is she's sleeping with another guy who's an American GI.

So he's whispering secrets to her.

She's whispering the secrets secrets back to us.

I couldn't make this up if I want.

My editor would be like, no one will believe this.

It all really happened all in World War II.

Anyone who loves history, I was like, this is the greatest story.

It's a great story.

And the thing that you realize is it could have changed the entire war, right?

It could have, if the big three are assassinated at this moment in time, this is just the moment where the Nazis, it's starting to go against them.

They really need a win.

And we have to remember, assassination was used as a weapon all the time back then.

So when even when Admiral Yamamoto, one of the chief architects of Pearl Harbor, the United States, we get information where he is, where he's going to fly.

And they go to FDR and they say, what do you want to do?

You want to kill him or not?

FDR knows, listen, if we kill him, they could retaliate against us.

They've retaliated against us before.

This is the main architect of Pearl Harbor.

And at that moment, FDR says, quote, get Yamamoto.

And we do.

We get him.

We kill him.

We know the stories of Hitler.

They try and kill him in the Alps.

They try and kill him on a train.

The Nazis try to, they find out that Winston Churchill, they think, is on a commercial flight.

They shoot the flight out of the sky.

It's just a guy who looks like Winston Churchill.

They get the wrong guy.

So all through the war, assassination is being used.

When the big three come to Tehran, it's a tantalizing target for the Nazis.

And you have to ask yourself, why do I not know this story?

How do you and I, who obsess over this stuff, not know this story?

And it's because when Churchill comes back and

FDR come back from the meeting, FDR holds a big press conference at the White House.

And he says,

yes, the meeting went really well.

We planned the, you know, he doesn't tell it, but he knows they planned the invasion of Normandy is coming now.

But he says, by the way, the Nazis tried to kill us.

The Secret Service, like, why'd you say that?

How could you tell everyone?

You're not supposed to say anything.

It becomes the front page of every newspaper.

It's a big, giant story.

Again.

But guess what?

Guess what happened soon after that?

Normandy.

150,000 men stormed the beaches, a million more standing by in successive waves.

And then this story becomes a footnote in history and gets lost until nerds like me dig it up and show you, look at this moment that we all forgot.

It's almost like, do you remember when Rumsfeld on September 10th came out and said, like, there's $2 trillion

of...

of funding missing.

Do you remember this?

I don't even remember this.

Oh, this is amazing.

So the night before, because

we had it on our show prep, remember, Stu?

We were going to talk about it.

Rumsfeld comes out and they had just done some audit of the Pentagon.

And he was like, this is worse than we thought.

And it was some staggering number.

It was like

one or two trillion dollars that they can't account for.

And then we're going to get down to the bottom of it.

And the next morning,

it was just, it was a non-story because the next morning was 9-11.

Well, the thing is, is there's always, to me, lost history is the best history, right?

Because we know the stories that we hear and we tell over and over again.

And the story of World War II is not just, you know, an amazing battle where millions of lives are at stake.

It's also one of the few, maybe last times in the American government where we think that the government went in, we did the right thing, we saved the day for everyone, and everyone on every side of politics agrees.

That just doesn't, right?

World War II is not just an incident.

It's an ideal.

It's what makes America the best, right?

It's the moment where we stand up to evil.

And Josh and I, when we write these books, like when we did the Nazi conspiracy, we're like, okay, it's great to say that we have this amazing plot you've never heard of to kill FDR and Stalin and Churchill.

But what's the book really about?

Like, what's it really about?

What is this?

You know, you and I know our love of history is not just that we love dates and facts and obscure stuff.

What we love, and you and I have been together a long time, decades now, is that it informs us about us today, right?

When history tells us who we are today.

And one of the things I remember is when Charlottesville happened, when we saw, I'm not throwing, you know, when Nazis were marching in Charlottesville, I'm not talking about throwing around the word Nazi the way it's thrown around today, but truly, Nazis are marching there.

And we're all wringing our hands and going, how does this happen in America?

Why are we fighting Nazis in modern times?

One of the things I didn't know is, and you see it early in the book, is back in World War II, there was a rally in Madison Square Garden.

20,000 Nazis in the heart of New York City

cheer.

And they have a big giant banner of George Washington surrounded by swastikas.

And the first speaker of the day says, if George Washington were alive today, he'd be friends with Adolf Hitler.

And oh my gosh, I'm like, why are we fighting Nazis today?

They never left.

They're here.

World War II is not that long ago.

Ann Frank is born the same year as Barbara Walters.

And it's just not that long ago.

Think about that a moment, right?

It's not that long ago.

And to me, the reason why we tell these stories is so, you know, to me, the American dream is not about just making money.

It's about when you see someone being bullied, when you see someone being picked on, you use your voice and you say enough.

Enough.

And over and over in time, you know, we see it, you know, Adolf Hitler, what he does is he says, those people are the cause of your problems.

He goes to those, those Germans who are suffering economically, those people are the cause of your problems.

He means the Jewish people.

And all those Germans there, they believe him.

They take him at his word.

And listen, when someone says to me, you're the cause of my problem, I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm mad.

I hate those people.

Who are they?

What are they doing?

But we see it over and over through history, whether it's the black community, you see with the gay community, the immigrant community, there's always a group where someone will say, those people are the problem.

And when you see, that's a code, and it's a code through history.

And we need to be better than what angers us.

We need to not fall for that.

And we have to say, when someone's being picked on, use your voice and say enough.

Not just when it's your group being picked on, but any group that's being picked on.

You got got to say no.

We used to say, I disagree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it.

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So I want to talk to you more a little bit about your book, The Nazi Conspiracy, and what do you think would have happened if they would have died?

But because we always do a little bit of show and tell when you're here, I'm going to give you some choices

of some of the new things, and you get a pick.

Okay, I'm ready.

We have Batman's Cowl.

Which one?

From

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I know you bought 1989?

No, no, no.

66?

No, no, no.

This is the Batman.

The Christian Bale.

The Christian Bale.

I saw that was up.

I knew you were going to bid on it.

I knew you were going to bid on that.

I saw that one just came up.

Yep.

Okay, so I have a good one.

You got a good deal.

I actually thought it was going to go higher.

You got a good deal on that.

Yeah.

Well, good deal is a.

I mean, it's a relative term.

I also have

the speech with the bullet hole through it given by Teddy Roosevelt along with his clothes.

I did not know you had that.

And those two kind of tie together.

I have Mel Gibson's sword from Braveheart.

I have Sputnik.

Of course you do.

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I love that.

But listen, as someone who wrote I Am Batman, I have to, it has to be the Cowl.

I got to see it.

I only saw a picture of it.

I have not seen it up close.

Okay.

Would

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Yeah.

Not FDR.

Teddy Roosevelt.

That was the other one.

That was the close one for me.

I have a Batman question for you.

I got it.

You might be able to answer it.

I'm ready.

All right.

The name of the book is Brad Meltzer's.

The Nazi Conspiracy: The Secret Plot to Kill Roosevelt, Stalin, and Churchill.

The idea was take all of these guys out and things collapse.

I don't think, I'm not sure that would have, at least in America,

it wouldn't have collapsed.

I don't think it could happen.

I agree with you.

No, no, I agree.

I don't think that if it happened.

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So show and tell in a minute, but we're back with Brad Meltzer, the author of The Conspiracy Theory, sorry, The Nazi Conspiracy, The Secret Plot to Kill Roosevelt, Stalin, and Churchill.

So what do you think would have happened if this would have won if they would have done this?

This is before D-Day.

We're kind of, you know, on the ropes.

Yeah, I mean, listen, this is the moment where it can all go sideways.

I don't think if it happened, I think if the plot worked and the Nazis killed FDR, Stalin, and Churchill at this moment in time, I don't think we'll be flying Nazi flags in Times Square right now, but I do think that, you know, back then,

perception was reality, right?

In a way, today we all have our Twitter accounts, we have our Instagram feeds, and the moment something comes out, we all say, oh, what the news says, I don't agree with that, we find a different opinion.

But back then, if you look at when Churchill and FDR met for the very first time in Casablanca,

That moment of just them sitting there with every paper in the world saying, look at the Allies, how strong they are.

They're standing together.

That became reality.

We weren't really together.

We didn't have the supplies.

We didn't have the manpower.

But we look like the strongest power in the world.

And that is to me the great unknown.

Do I think someone would have stepped up or Cordell Hull or anyone else would?

Of course, you know, D-Day is not planned just by three people.

It's planned by...

No, I know, but the leadership, Churchill, I'm convinced, Churchill was the only one that really understood.

Oh, yeah.

Well, he, yeah, I mean, he's, you know, the thing that you have to look at, and it's just the sheer amount, and this is what hit me more than anything, is what's at stake.

You know, the United States, we buried about 521,000 men.

The United Kingdom buried about 500,

a bit more, about 550,000.

The Soviet Union buried 24 million people.

And you don't realize how just decimating the Nazis were.

When the Nazis attacked, and again, think about this in American terms, when they attacked Leningrad, they take the city.

This is all in the book.

They take the city.

They don't want to deal with with POWs.

So they just surround the city and say, no one's going in, no one's going out.

Their plan is to starve everyone to death.

And it happens immediately.

People start eating dogs.

They start eating rats.

Then they start looking at each other and thinking about eating the unthinkable, which happens.

Stalin did it too.

And Stalin did it.

And right out of, of course, it's the same.

Thank you.

It's the same exact playbook.

And what's so amazing is that in a year's time, in no time, but in close to a year, nearly a million people in just that city are dead.

It's the greatest loss of life in a modern American city ever in history.

And that's one location.

So to me, I say all that simply to say, what do I think would happen?

Like, obviously, anything can happen at that moment.

And you take away our ability to look like we're the strong ones, and God knows where the Nazis go.

It's a great book.

It is a history book, but it's a story you've never heard before.

And even the stuff that you have heard, like Pearl Harbor, written in such a way, you look at it completely with different eyes.

I mean, you get the same, you know, bad guy, good guy, but completely different eyes.

And

you're taken even to the White House and then to Winston Churchill, where

I just never thought of those things before.

It's

my favorite thing for Winston Churchill.

Well, just two quick thoughts is I also love, and I have to, I haven't said this on anything that I've done, but you and I.

So Winston Churchill is at the White House right after the Pearl Harbor.

I thought this was what you're going to call me on.

And Winston Churchill always had a bath every day because he used to like taking a bath.

And FDR and his aide walk in on Winston Churchill and he's buck naked.

And

which is not, of course.

But Winston Churchill at that moment has the greatest comeback as he says, the prime minister of the United Kingdom has nothing to hide from the president of the United States.

And to me, that is the greatest line to ever say if you are ever caught naked anywhere.

If the Nazi conspiracy gives you nothing else, it's the greatest line when you're caught naked.

And to me, what I love is, you know, how do you find this stuff out?

And for us, it was hard.

Like, we couldn't go to the National Archives for this or go to the usual places we go to.

We needed researchers who speak Russian, who speak German.

And so, you know, the Nazis' top secret intelligence was on what they call the brown sheets.

And you and I, we got to find a brown sheet because the brown sheets were literally called out because they were printed on brown paper.

And they used to be in a special zipper case.

You had to destroy it after a a month when you read it.

It was like the Mission Impossible briefcase, but for Nazis.

The only reason we were able to research this book is

people like Joseph Goebbels, the head of propaganda for the Nazis, used to keep extensive diaries.

And he stupidly used to write down what he saw in the brown sheets in his diaries.

And through our translators, we were able to figure out, we all know the story of the Enigma machines.

I know we've talked about it before, of course, cracking the Nazi codes.

What I didn't know, Glenn, is they had cracked our codes.

They had actually, according to his diaries, they had cracked our international cables between FDR and Churchill.

They were listening to us the entire time.

That's chilling to me.

And I just was, you know, again, things that I feel like I know World War II, not like this.

And this was kind of like looking at the bad guys' playbook and seeing how close they came to taking out the big three.

All right, let's do a little show and tell, shall we?

Can't wait.

Okay, so

in front of you is the Batman Cowell from that's Batman Begins, right?

Batman Begins, Yes, with Scarecrow, it is taking, I need to tell you everything in my body to not put this thing on my head right now and just burst through the window and just go and go to the screen and be like, I'm Batman.

That's it.

That's all I want to do right now.

So this is actually

fireproof because this is for the scene where he walks through the fire that Scarecrow has started.

Okay, so.

Thoughts on the Batman Cowl.

So here's my first thought.

My first thought is I saw when this came up right around Christmas time, and all I thought was I need a Christmas present.

So I did not bid on it.

I will tell you, unlike the Superman stuff, I did.

Please, before you bid on stuff, call that.

No, no, that is, we made a blood oath last time.

We are not bidding on things unless we tell each other.

I love, love, love the sculpture of this.

His jawline, you can see it coming through and adds such a detail to it, which is spectacular to me.

It's cooler, I think, than the Darth Vader in person.

Oh,

the Darth Vader.

That's amazing.

Darth Vader is amazing, but it looks plasticky to this.

This looks real.

That looks like a toy, and it looks fake.

I told you when I went on the Millennium Falcon.

What?

So I took my kids to see the filming of Star Wars, and they said to me, you know, you want to meet Artudito, of course.

You want to meet Chewbacca?

Of course.

I mean, it couldn't get better.

So each thing is getting better.

And then they say, okay, come this way.

And we turn the corner.

And now we're in Pinewood Studios, okay, where they, of course, film Star Wars.

Yeah.

I had to pull every favor.

I had to give them one child, but I have a couple, so I had to spare.

And I turn the corner.

I bring my kids.

It's like this is my one gift I can give my kids and I turn the corner and there you know what you're looking at is the entry to the Millennium Falcon wow and I take my kids on the Falcon and I know again I'm such a nerd about I know where to go I'm like don't you don't have to tell me I know so I sit down and my sons both jump in the two seats I have two boys and a girl and they fight and and my son my youngest son says chewy hit the hyperdrive and then my other son says no no you're Chewy.

I'm Han Solo.

You're in the passenger seat.

I'm the driver.

And they look at me and they say, say, Dad, which one's the driver's seat?

What's Han Solo's seat?

And I'm so used to seeing it from the opposite side because we're looking at it from the inside.

I'm like, I don't know.

And I turn to our guide and he points to the older son.

And my older son says, Chewy, hit the hyperdrive.

And we just had, and they give you a camera and they say you take all the pictures you want because they're filming the new Star Wars at the time.

They say, we'll send you the photos in two years.

And two years later, sure enough, they sent me the photos of us on the Millennium Fall.

That's unbelievable.

It was awesome.

Unbelievable.

Okay, sure.

Teddy Roosevelt's.

Okay, here's Tony.

Here's Teddy Roosevelt's glasses.

This is it.

Okay.

You can hold those glasses up and everybody should know

exactly which president.

I mean, there's no one else.

This is the first time.

I don't know why they don't make those anymore.

Really?

They're fantastic.

They're beautiful.

These are beautiful.

Yeah.

All right.

So here is the

last page of the speech that he was giving at the Bull Moose Party where he was shot.

That hole is the bullet hole that went in.

Is this his handwriting?

Did he do that?

No, this is the gift.

Okay, this is the gift, too.

And then here's the speech.

Wow, this is the bullet hole.

This is an amazing moment.

Only you, of course, would have this.

Isn't that crazy?

I love, love, you know, and Teddy Roosevelt, again, of one of my favorite presidents of all time, bar nothing.

You know, no offense to FDR, no offense to anyone.

But Teddy Roosevelt is it, is it.

Now I'm reading the whole speech, of course, myself.

Okay.

So

here's the question that only you will be able to really answer.

Okay.

This is legend, and they say they don't know.

Okay.

But I thought of you when I read it.

Batman,

apparently, one of the inspirations of Batman

was Theodore Roosevelt.

Okay, so.

Rich guy, big, influential, Gotham, cleaned up the city, did it in an unconventional way.

Yeah, so I'm going to tell you the answer here.

So there is no more myth than the myth that surrounds Batman and his creation.

And the truth was, is it was, if you look for the original 75 years of it, everyone said a guy named Bob Kane was the creator of Batman.

I'm on an event with a guy named Jerry Robinson one day, and Jerry Robinson famously created The Joker and, you know, has his hands in Robin and all these other amazing things.

And this woman stands up and says, I'm the granddaughter.

of Bill Finger, who I'd heard of and is one of the original Batman artists.

And she says, and my grandfather created Batman with Bob Kane.

And I lean over to Jerry Robinson, who's there, who created the Joker, did Robin, did all these things.

And he says, she's right.

And it causes me and a number of other people to start this campaign to recognize the creator of Batman.

Yeah, because they did that.

And Bob Kane, Bob Kane, I was part of this.

And Bob Kane famously said that the inspiration for Batman, his costume was Leonardo da Vinci.

He said some of the Teddy Roosevelt stuff, although I hadn't heard the extent of the rich guy stuff, but it's actually a good idea.

He was always looking to tell tall tales to keep away the fact that the real creation of Batman came also from this guy, Bill Finger.

And a bunch of us got together.

I work with DC Comics.

A number of other great people worked on the outside of it.

And if you look in the Batman Comics Now, it says created by Bob Kane and Bill Finger.

And the very first comic book that was written that gave him that credit was mine.

I put it in there because I wanted to correct the historical record.

And it was vital to me.

And I even thought, used to think that Batman, the inspiration of the costume came from Leonardo da Vinci's great Batwings and the flying wings.

But sadly,

when he originally created him, he had like these purple gloves and these other things.

It was Bill Finger who said, made up the name Bruce Wayne,

gave him the identity, gave him the origin, gave him Gotham City, gave the bat signal.

He made all the stuff you love, gave him the scallop cape.

But we don't know what his inspiration was.

I've never heard the Teddy Roosevelt one, but I'm going to tell you what I'm going to be doing this afternoon.

I can tell tell you that.

Let me know.

I'll text you.

And if it's wrong, you don't have to.

Don't tell me.

Don't tell me.

I love it.

I love it.

It's a brilliant idea.

It really is, isn't it?

It's a perfect idea.

Yeah.

I found it someplace.

I don't remember where.

Brad Meltzer, the name of the book is The Nazi Conspiracy, The Secret Plot to Kill Roosevelt, Stalin, and Churchill.

Well worth the read.

Pick it up now.

Always great to have you here.

Thank you, Michael.

Thank you.

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You know,

I love, I love Brad.

I would love to just sit and just listen to him for a couple of days because he's just got the greatest stories ever, and he's a great storyteller.

And he's done everything.

I know.

It's like, I was on the moon one day, and you're like, wait, wait a minute.

Back up, back up, back up.

It's incredible.

I mean, his books are always great as well, but he really knows how to tell a story.

And he's one of those people, too, that

the books he writes, he sort of lives through his regular life.

Like he is always going after these incredible pieces of history.

He just loves it so much.

You can tell.

You can tell he has joy when he's.

You see that in his books, too.

He just, he does.

He has joy in telling these stories.

I just love it.

By the way.

You know, I didn't watch the Golden Globes.

I didn't even know the Golden Globes were on.

I don't really even care about any of it, but I saw a clip yesterday that I wanted to play from Brendan Frazier.

Have you seen the clip yet?

I've seen a little bit, yeah.

This is amazing.

And well, I've seen Jeffy.

I have not seen the whale.

And

but I want to see it now after this.

Listen to this.

This was his acceptance speech

at the Golden Globes.

Listen to this.

If you,

like a guy like Charlie, who I played in this movie, in any way struggle with obesity or you just feel like you're in a dark sea

I want you to know that if you too can have the strength to just get to your feet and go to the light good things will happen

thank you good night

you know it's amazing have you seen the people that are standing up uh I mean it's like all the people that I, you know, like Harry Winkle, Henry Winkler, and, you know, people that we know or people that are kind of.

And everybody else is like, they're not standing up to apply.

They're like, oh, that's good.

That's good.

All right.

Move on.

But

this was, he was so concerned about this movie that he couldn't shoot one of the main scenes one day.

And the director just said,

Brennan, just relax, relax, relax.

Go home.

Just forget about all this.

And he's like, this is, I mean, he knew this was his comeback chance and

he didn't want to blow it because he loved the role.

And, I mean, he gained, what, 200 pounds for it?

Something like that?

Oh, well, I thought it was all makeup.

No, he really gained that weight.

That's the fun part.

Yeah.

That's a lot of acting.

Yeah.

I like how it's like, everyone's like, gosh, the bravery of that person fighting back against these terrible claims of obesity.

And they all stand up and they're all like 108 pounds.

Yeah.

Every woman in the audience

has 0.3% body fat.

I love Brendan Frazier because of

that speech.

I love it.

And I'm going to see the whale.

And I mean the movie.

Not Jeffy.

That was mean.

See, that's the exact type of stuff that Brendan Frazier is bravely standing up against.

Yeah, that's

you being hateful.

He's more of a hippopotamus.

Because if you're in the water, he's in the water, you're dead.

You're dead.

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