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Welcome to the program.

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It is Thursday.

I've got a lot to talk to you about.

I want to start with the farmland.

We had a special on last night about America's war on land and energy,

on fuel and food.

In the next half hour, I think your mind is going to be blown if you didn't see last night's episode of my Wednesday night special.

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Glenn.

How are you?

Oh,

fantastic.

It's a good day.

Good day to be an American.

Well,

I mean, besides the fact that, you know, Richard Trump can now say, we're not trying to ban gas stoves.

Really?

I can't take the Republicans' pounce on gas stove.

It's a conspiracy theory.

Oh, my God.

Did you hear yesterday that Washington State, this study came out and it's full of holes.

Full of holes.

The most extensive study on natural gas and

cooktops and heating in your home and everything else, it shows there's absolutely no impact as long as you're not, this is really the way this study did it, the one that, you know, was like, we got to get rid of the natural gas.

They sealed the house like in plastic.

So if you have no ventilation and natural gas, it might affect your children with asthma.

Well, I don't know.

I don't live in a plastic bubble with my stove.

It's required to have venting on your stove.

Anyway, this is craziness.

Washington State in November

already changed it.

You can't build a house now in Washington State with a gas stove.

It has to be electric.

Yeah, we're squarely in that time where they say, what are you crazy?

We would never do that, but we should, because look at all these effects, but we would never.

Why are you such a conspiracy theory?

But have you ever thought about it before?

Because we should really probably do it right now.

But I can't believe you're bringing it up.

All right.

It's that type of thing.

It's over and over and over again they buy time by convincing half of the population that it's a conspiracy theory may i bring up esg the world economic forum's great reset okay conspiracy theory not happening it's happening and half of america knows it and knows what it really means You're luckily in that half.

Hopefully you're in that half.

If you're not, you're a new listener.

Welcome.

You will understand it soon.

Last night, I did a special, and you can find it on YouTube.

Although I did utter the words the great reset several times, which is a no-no on YouTube.

You cannot say the great reset.

It's the name of my book.

Cannot say that.

It's a good marketing idea there, by the way, by you.

Well, it wasn't banned.

No, it wasn't Ban when you did it.

Yeah.

You should have just predicted the whims of YouTube.

Right.

Right.

Well, I'm going to call my next book YouTube.

Anyway,

so it's up on YouTube.

I think you can certainly check it out at Blaze TV, where it will be protected and live forever on Blaze TV on demand.

But last night I talked about the war on land,

on fuel, all of it.

Food, what is happening with our food is outrageous.

And I'm going to give you some

things here that you will not believe.

In about eight minutes, you will say, no way, that's true.

You're going to have to look it up and I'll give you the address and everything else.

Okay.

Right now, 40% of farmland in America, 40, is owned by Americans over 65.

Our farmers are dying out.

So farmland, 40% of it, is going to go up for sale soon.

Okay.

And the way everything is structured, the farmers' families usually can't afford to keep the farm when mom and dad die.

So that means 370 million acres are going to come up of farmland, good American farmland, gonna come up for sale soon.

Now,

the prices of farmland is skyrocketing for some reason.

I mean, who wants farmland?

You know, the best and fastest way to become a millionaire as a farmer is start with $2 million.

Okay.

You're guaranteed to have $1 million

probably by the end of the year.

It's a losing prospect.

It is hard work, hard work, and you need good communities around you.

So why is farmland prices going up?

Well, a couple of reasons.

COVID, people are like, yeah, I just want to be, you know, someplace other than California.

And so then they buy, we'll raise chickens and we'll have eggs and maybe we'll have a a goat and a first winter and the first harvest, they're like,

and they run back someplace in the city.

A few months ago, a farm in Iowa sold for $25,000

per acre.

To say that land prices are skyrocketing is an understatement.

So who is buying all of the farmland?

Well, BlackRock buying up record, record-shattering amounts of homes.

For farms, it's people like Bill Gates.

Now, I don't know about you, but Bill Gates buying up 300,000 acres spread out.

Remember, 40%

of the farmlands, 40% owned by

65 and up, 40%.

How many acres did I say that was?

370 million.

40%,

370.

How many acres does Bill Gates have now?

He's approaching 300 million acres.

So that's kind of disturbing.

One guy

owning another 40% of our farmland, if these numbers are right, that's terrifying, especially a guy who believes in, you know what?

We well, we shouldn't have cattle.

We shouldn't have milk.

And, you know, I can genetically fix these animals because

I am God.

And also, more disturbingly, this is the guy who approved Clippy.

Yes.

The little paper clip that would give you recommendations on what to do at Microsoft Office.

So I totally support Bill Gates in his little farmer expedition.

He's going to be a good farmer.

Anyway.

You think he's done a lot of farming?

You think Bill has been out in the fields?

Oh, sure.

Yeah, he knows who who he's doing.

With the hoe.

300.

37.6 million acres of U.S.

farm and ranch land now held under foreign ownership.

37.6 million acres.

They've doubled down recently, buying land in Oklahoma, Texas, Colorado.

40% growth rate in just 2020.

One Chinese government-linked group bought farmland near Grand Forks Air Force Base in North Dakota.

No problem there.

No problem.

Not really seriously.

Former member of the Chinese Communist Red Army bought land near Laughlin Air Force Base here in Texas.

The windmill project that he's doing gives the Chinese yet another dangerous location next to a sensitive military base.

Buyers from communist China bought 6.1 billion acres of farmland here in the U.S.

Hmm.

By far, that's more than any other foreign buyer.

But it's just the Chinese, you know, communist government that's doing it.

What could possibly go wrong?

By the way, an update.

I said this last night.

Ron DeSantis is the only guy that would do this.

He needs to ban China from buying farmland.

And guess what he did yesterday?

Yeah.

He's banning China from buying farmland.

Where are you, Texas?

Where are you?

Okay,

so you're you're seeing that our farmland is being put into the hands of either our enemies,

like Bill Gates, or the Chinese.

So what are you going to do?

Bill Gates,

300 million acres.

300,000, isn't it?

300,000 acres?

You said 300 million acres.

300 million.

Is it 300,000?

Let me look at it.

300,000 acres.

300,000?

Okay.

It's a lot, a lot better.

Still, yes, it's a lot of

acres.

But much better than 300 million.

Okay.

300,000 acres.

So he's got all this farmland.

You know where he's going.

He is fully with the World Economic Forum.

Okay.

So the World Economic Forum, what do they want to do?

Well, they want to control the land.

They want to control the food.

They want to control the energy.

They want to control the money.

Well, if you do all of those things, you control you.

Now, I'm going to take you to something, to the World Economic Forum, their own website.

They have a section on smart cities.

There's a really smart city.

Like, I don't know, like Chicago, very smart.

So the smart cities are the way.

to get all of our problems under control because you're going to their plan is to force everybody into cities

and leave the land alone.

Remember, they have to, by 2030, and Biden's already done this, he's going to preserve 30%

of all land in America.

You can't, no humans will be on it.

By 2050, it's 50% of all land.

So where do the people go?

The people all have to go into cities, but they'll be smart cities.

Now,

I want you to go to the World Economic Forum's website and I want you to look this up for yourself because you will not believe what I'm about to tell you.

But it's there currently in black and white.

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You go to the World Economic Forum, you look up their smart cities, and you're going to see

what is planned for you.

Now, they have all kinds of partners all over the world.

One of them is the Arab Group, A-R-U-P, the Arab Group.

They have their own section on the WEF website.

They're a progressive group that got together in Britain right after World War II, and they were like, hey, we can do a lot of things.

You know, these Fabian socialists, they got a lot of great ideas.

Why don't we start building things and building a community of tomorrow?

So,

very progressive-minded,

and they want to be a source and a force for peace and social betterment, which I look for in a construction company, don't you?

I mean, I'm like, yeah, but how, I mean, is it going to, I mean, how is it with earthquakes and stuff?

Social betterment.

Did we say social betterment?

Okay, good.

Same reason I go to NASA.

Exactly.

So,

well, you go to NASA to learn about the Muslim community.

And how much they know about math.

Right.

Okay, so

from the World Economic Forum, let's put page 40 up.

There it is.

Now, I love this.

Now, this is a whole section on, look, we've got some pretty big goals to hit, and we got to hit them.

So how do we build these smart cities?

And what do we need people to do?

by 2030.

Now, they have some pretty aggressive goals, and some of them are up there.

And they look, I mean, if you're watching Blaze TV, you'll see them up from the website itself.

But let me give it to you just in case you're not watching.

Because, gosh darn it,

these stats are a little sticky.

So, food, food,

they need to reduce the emissions of food

by 2030.

So,

their target by 2030 is

you will only have 16 kilograms of meat per year.

Now, their aggressive target for 2030 is that you have zero kilograms of meat.

I'm telling you what they're doing to the farmers and the ranchers, what these giant, the four big food processors are doing.

They're driving them out of business.

So you can't have any local ranchers growing meat because they're getting rid of meat.

Listen to Klaus Schwab who says by 2030, meat will be for the rich and very wealthy for special occasions only.

You with that?

Again, on their own website, 16 kilograms, that's all you can have of meat.

Right now, the dairy consumption, milk or derivative equivalent, so cheeses and everything else, they're hoping that you will only have 90 kilograms of that, but their aggressive, ambitious target for 2030 is zero.

Now remember, they need you to live like we lived in the pandemic, except without the nice stuff that you might have had, like cheese and milk and meat in the pandemic.

You'll be required to only have 2,500 calories a day.

Now, I don't know about you, but I don't think I can live on 2,500 calories a day.

I really don't like the fact, you know, maybe it's because I've studied so much about the Holocaust.

And, you know, when governments and institutions start regulating calories, makes me think of the Holocaust a little bit, but maybe that's just me.

Now, when it comes to clothing, clothing is a problem, okay?

We have too many clothes for, and I personally, I've watched television I don't think we have enough clothes quite frankly Lizzo comes to mind

so their progressive target for 2030 is that there will people will only be allowed to have eight new clothing items per person per year

but they really are shooting for three

so

Comrade, you could have a new shirt, a new pair of pants, and maybe some socks.

Merry Christmas.

We'll begin to go, oh, they've got socks for Christmas.

Thank you.

So, you know, no big deal there.

On private transportation, their goal is, now, I don't even know the number.

They don't include this in here.

How many vehicles per thousand people?

What do you think per thousand people?

How many vehicles do we currently

have, do you think?

I mean, for, I mean, 500?

Yeah, some of them are kids, but I mean, I don't know if you're thinking it's got to be at least 500.

At least 500.

They want to reduce that by 2030 to 190 cars per 1,000 people.

And their ambitious target is

zero cars

per 1,000 people.

Oh, by the way, and your 20-year car, the car that should last you about 20 years, they want it to last now 50 years.

So we'll all be driving.

Oh my gosh, this is starting to sound like Cuba, where the sun is out every day and you can go to the beach whenever you want and try to fashion a craft out of logs and a sail.

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We're just going over some things we went over in last night's TV special.

I invite you to see it if you missed it last night.

It is really an important one.

It is on the World Economic Forum, which is meeting next week.

The most powerful group of people on the earth ever to meet by far.

There are 37 heads of state,

five or six hundred

CEOs of corporations.

All of the banks will be there.

This is the biggest Davos conference of all time by far.

And they're making decisions for you.

I know it's just a skiing thing.

No, it's not.

No, it is not.

They are making plans and you can go to the WEF, World Economic Forum, WEF.org, and you can read all of this stuff I'm presenting.

This is today what I'm giving you.

I gave some of it last night

from a group called Arup.

And they are one of the recommended builders and they are also helping them design the city of tomorrow.

And so ARIP has this whole report on the future of urban consumption.

And it talks about, in fact, I want to give you this the headline of one of the sections.

Delivering consumption interventions will provide wider benefits in cities.

What's a consumption intervention?

What does that mean?

That means you consume a lot less.

From whatever you buy in clothing,

you can only buy, according to their aggressive goals by 2030, three different articles of clothing.

That's it.

The home version of this game is basically your wife saying, do you really need ice cream tonight?

Yeah.

It's that.

You want something and some authority figure is telling you you can't have it.

Yeah, kind of.

It's worse than that.

I think, you know, the way they describe these cities, they're imagining a new world.

They're imagining a world where you could have everything at your fingertips, everything you need, really

so close you never have to drive.

You could walk to work.

In fact, they describe the world of tomorrow.

In some cases, you could be in a very large complex, and your job, your house, your entertainment, your restaurants could all be right there where you are.

I like to think of that as Foxcon,

but maybe that's just me.

So, aviation, here are their goals in aviation.

They just want, and they think this is a reasonable goal.

This is their target in 2030, a 53% sustainable aviation fuel adoption.

So,

I don't don't think we have one of those yet.

Otherwise, I think we'd probably be using it unless it was wildly expensive.

But it doesn't matter the expense because

of goal number two.

Their progressive target by 2022 is that each individual will only get one short-haul flight

every

two years.

So you could go to, like, I'm in Texas.

I could go to Iowa.

You know, in two years, honey, we could go vacation in Iowa.

What do you say?

And if you think that all of the regulations and the talk about taxing you per mile and all that stuff is not to keep you at home, I am telling you now, there is going to come a time where wherever you are is where you will spend your life for the most part.

So you better be someplace you really want to be.

One short-haul flight

every two years per person.

That's their target for 2030 that they think is reasonable.

Their ambitious target is one short-haul flight every three years per person.

So,

I mean, airlines,

if you got that, by the way, you won't be able to buy their goal is that,

and their goal is their progressive target and their ambitious target is

seven-year optimum lifetime of laptops and electronic devices.

So you don't buy anything new for seven years.

Okay.

Apple's going to love that.

What does that do to innovation?

When you're trying to cap everything

so people can't buy anything new, what is that going to do to the economy, to innovation,

to the West?

Because we're the only ones that are talking about adopting all of this from the World Economic Forum.

We're the only ones.

And it is suicide.

It is Malthusian.

It is the same kind of death cult that has been trying to come up with these utopian plans forever.

This time they found a way to trap all of us into that cage.

And they're doing it through business and finance.

Liberals, you were right.

Conservatives were wrong.

We were the ones that said, I'm not afraid of business.

Aren't the banks gotta make money?

We were the ones saying that.

You were the ones saying the government and big business and banking are all going to get together and they're going to control the world and we'll all be slaves.

And we were the ones that went to the movie theaters and went, ah, that's ridiculous.

I'm so sick of hearing about the corporation.

Yeah, you're with the corporation, are you?

And the corporation was the government.

That's what's happening.

You were right.

Why can't you see it now?

Why can't you see it?

Because the people, and this is so important for you to understand and express to your friends.

This is not about Republicans and Democrats.

That's a stage show.

You notice when we get them in, nothing really changes.

It's a stage show.

There's barely any difference between the two parties because it's been corrupted by corporations and big banks and big governments and globalists.

It's all corrupt.

So now what we're talking about is what?

We're not talking about policies.

We are talking about the basic principles of human rights.

Do the Bill of Rights exist?

Should they exist?

But don't even look at this as an American thing, because it's again not.

Why are the farmers in Holland standing up and protesting why are the farmers in Germany standing up and protesting why are the farmers in England why are the farmers in France protesting

because they have what's coming here

And nobody's listening.

And what's and how are they accomplishing this?

In Holland, they're saying these farmers are extremists.

They're anarchists.

They want to destroy the government.

In Germany, they're anarchists.

They want to overthrow the government.

France, same thing.

England, same thing.

Here, same thing.

Canada, same thing.

Each country is just morphing them into whatever their version of a Nazi is.

And the elites on both sides

are playing that game.

Yep, yep, they are extremists.

You saw it with the House last week.

You saw the Republicans fight against,

let's slow down on spending.

Let's be able to read the bills for three days before this 5,000-page bill has to be voted on.

Let's have a debate in Congress on the floor so people can watch and be informed.

No more backroom deals.

That's what they were asking for, and the Republicans stood against it.

Who's your real friend?

I got news for you.

You're much more likely to have a real watch-your-back friend

who is

a

classic liberal.

Somebody who was a Democrat for years and now is starting to back out and go, wait, wait, wait, what is this?

Those Democrats that are waking up, they are much more your friend than most of the Republicans you vote for.

Choose your friends carefully

and welcome new friends who are opening their eyes because we're arguing about all of the wrong things.

And because of that, all of this is coming to fruition.

If we would just band with each other here in America and then

be able to have a global movement, the people all over the world instinctively know this isn't a battle between left and right.

This is a battle between the common person and the elite ruling class and the elite in banking and finance and business.

That's the fight.

The people versus the rulers.

Not Republican and Democrat.

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You know, I've been following this stuff that's been going on in the Vatican lately, and there's a great story in the American Conservative today that has come out.

I just want to read it.

In November, I was

visiting Broclava, I don't know where that is, and had dinner with my friends, and he mentions them, a mathematician, a retired statesman, and the editor of the conservative magazine Standard.

Vlado, who is one of my sources for Live Not by Lies.

If you have not read that book, you need to.

We were talking about the ailing Pope Benedict.

Vlado mentioned that in 2015, he received a letter from Pope Benedict.

And Vlado was a member of the Underground Catholic Church, you know, in the communist,

you know, in the communist regime.

And then he became, you know, an anti-communist and he actually served as the interior ministry in his country.

Anyway, he said,

according to this, he was grave as he spoke about the letter.

It was very very short, he said, and he was appreciative of the book.

And in the end, the Pope spoke of the Antichrist.

He didn't want to say, that's not something you say at dinner.

Yeah, and he wrote me a letter and he talked about the Antichrist.

I can't tell you what's in it, though.

Then don't bring it up.

Right.

Yeah, okay.

So he said he wouldn't bring it up until the Pope dies.

Okay.

So the Pope has died.

Benedict was buried last week.

They were in dinner.

They were at dinner in Rome.

and he said, So are you going to release this?

And he said, No, I'm not sure.

He's an old-style Catholic, and he didn't want to, you know,

he didn't want to do anything that might hurt people's testimony of God.

I don't know why I don't really understand that.

But

so he was finally convinced that he's going to release it.

He has.

It's not long.

It has 12 lines, and

he does talk about the

Antichrist.

And if I may read it, it's

Meinscheit Wei Die Mach des Antichrist, sich Alsbreitet,

und kahn nur beeten, das har

unskrasvoll hurtenschank.

See what I mean?

Beautiful language.

Yeah.

I have no idea what it means.

No, here's the translation.

He wrote it in German, but here's the translation.

We see how the power of the Antichrist is expanding, and we can only pray that the Lord will give us strong shepherds who will defend his church in this hour of need from the power of evil.

Church meaning, I'm assuming, all of God's people that are following.

And good shepherds.

are what we need.

And this is yet another piece of this puzzle that I'm trying to get some people from the Vatican to talk about it who are on the, you know, on the, hey, you know,

there's a war between good and evil going on, and we're on the good side.

I'm trying to get them to come out and talk about it because Benedict was very, very clear that

Catholics and all of us need to wake up

because this is a very dangerous time in the world and we will be deceived.

And he said

by

theologians and trusted shepherds

what does he mean by that

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Dana Kennedy, she is a writer for the New York Post.

She wrote this fantastic article a couple of days ago.

I'm going to give you a little bit of it.

Beth Penske, a 54-year-old single mother from New Jersey, now lives in Florida, but she never tells anyone she's estranged from her only son and daughter.

Penske said, I lie all the time.

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her kids have rejected her because they're woke and she isn't.

She said, I can't tell anyone I don't have a relationship with them.

So much shame about it.

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But her attitude changed when she and a number of other mothers read a post story in November about Annabella Rockwell, a graduate of Mount Holyoke College, who claimed she had been totally indoctrinated into hard left ideologies at the school and had to be deprogrammed.

Mom said, I saw Annabelle's story and my life turned upside down.

I realized I wasn't alone.

I saw what happened to her was similar to what I think happened to my kids.

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I didn't know they existed.

I think it might be too late for me and my kids.

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She said that the estrangement started when the kids really went to college.

And she said, I'm a Democrat.

I'm a liberal, but it doesn't matter to my kids anymore.

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fights with my girls just because I wouldn't get a Rainbow Pride Starbucks cup.

The cup itself was the battle.

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So,

today,

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And she also

is from China.

So she's kind of seen some of this stuff firsthand.

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She is a deprogrammer, which I too did not know even exists.

She is the creator creator of stopfemaleerasure.com.

She is truly amazing.

She exposes the intersections of corporate government nonprofit collusion driving the transgender rights movement.

She says a smokescreen for massive social engineering and propaganda war being used to facilitate female erasure in language, in law, and on a worldwide scale.

Her work connects the dots between normalized practices of child sexualization and proliferation of biopharmaceutical transhumanist technologies.

Man, I am going to love this woman.

And frames these agendas as foundational to the colonization of the female body and the female

reproductive control.

Kay, welcome to the program.

Wow, thank you so much, Glenn, for having me here and for this opportunity.

Good morning.

Good morning.

I'm so glad to have you on.

Let me make sure I have your

background right.

10 years ago, when none of us were talking about this stuff, you were working at an LGBT center?

That's right.

I was.

In my early 20s is when I was working at an LGBT center.

It was a small local nonprofit, and the funding was coming from the New York State Department of Health.

So that's a really important part of this as well, that the state was funding me to do the work that I was doing.

We were indoctrinating public school children with gender identity and transgender ideology.

So we were actually being armed with rainbow-colored propaganda that was sent to us from these large nonprofits like GLISSN and GLAD.

And then we'd go into the schools,

disarm the teachers really with these themes around acceptance, anti-bullying, suicide prevention, and then we would introduce children to the concept of gender identity and transgender.

And we would use propaganda tools like the gender-bred person,

which you may have seen before, but your audience might not all be familiar with.

It's a cartoon cookie character, and it teaches children to measure themselves and others by so-called woman-ness or man-ness or femaleness or maleness.

So we would take tools like this into the schools with us.

We would visit local area high schools and set up LGBT clubs and gay straight alliances.

Hang on just a second.

Kay, hang on just a second.

You got into the schools and the teachers were disarmed, assuming they had a problem.

They were disarmed because you were coming in under the umbrella of the New York State Division of Family and Children counseling, right?

So you were coming in with state approval.

That's right.

And we were in there kind of under the idea of sexual health and

education, even though we were not experts.

I had never been trained in sexual health, but I was considered an expert the moment that I took the job.

I was billed as an expert to the teachers.

And we were talking to these students without the knowledge, like without their parents' consent.

Parents didn't know that we were having these after-school clubs.

They didn't know that we were talking about sex, talking about sexuality, trans identities, and gender identity with these students.

There was no knowledge or consent from parents.

And this was all considered okay.

Okay, all right.

So this is 10 years ago.

This is you 10 years ago.

What brought you from that?

to somebody who is helping parents deprogram their children.

What changed in you?

What was the moment that you were like, oh, crap, I'm on the wrong side?

Well, a lot of things.

A lot of things.

As soon as I saw this concept of a trans child, this was really concerning to me because at the time when I was working at the LGBT Center, I had no idea that the work that we were doing was really paving the way for the manufacturing of the so-called trans child and also for people to accept this idea, right?

Or that there would be medicalization or sterilization of healthy children in their bodies.

None of this was ever part of the work that we were doing.

It never crossed my mind that this would be a thing.

So, yeah, 10 years ago, no one had ever heard of a trans child.

But in 2019, the CEC did a survey, and it was claimed that one out of every 50 high school students in America was identifying as trans.

So that's a huge increase.

And all, yeah, and a lot of the reporting news media has attributed that, the increase to children feeling safe to come out and to them having like better data collection, but it's never attributed to this widespread social engineering that was going on.

And as soon as I heard this concept of a trans child, this was extremely alarming to me.

Because if you went back in time and told me that what we were doing at the LGBT center would result in like this near future where three, four, five, six-year-old children are being paraded in front of international media, openly sexualized and groomed, you know, these drag kids, drag queen story time.

I never would have believed this.

And really, there's no such thing as a trans child.

And this becomes really obvious when you look back only one decade to a time when no one had heard of a trans child.

It's corporate fiction.

It's propaganda.

No child is born in the wrong body.

No person, whether an adult or a a child, can change their sex.

It doesn't really matter, you know, anything you do.

You can put on makeup, you can change your clothes, you can, you know, drug yourself up with chemicals and wrong sex hormones or have these, you know, really invasive, medically unnecessary procedures, but it's never going to change the fact that a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl.

So we have to stop lying to children.

And when I saw that this

move, the so-called movement, it's not a real movement, but when I saw this turn towards the focus on children and telling children that they could be born in the wrong body and moving them on a path towards, you know, medicalization, this really shocked me and scared me.

So

because you're into the transhumanist movement and everything we'll talk about a little bit later, I just want to make sure we're on the same page.

I believe that we are living in a time where

a lot of people are useful idiots.

And

a lot of the people that believe

in

the stuff that you were teaching, a lot of them might be really well-intentioned and believe that

this is really something,

whatever.

But there is,

I said last hour, I don't know why liberals won't wake up because liberals were right.

Conservatives were wrong.

The liberals were the ones saying the United States government is just colluding with corporations and eventually it's going to be one giant corporation.

I think the collusion between the government

and, you know, in this case, pharmaceutical companies or whatever,

that collusion is what's really truly driving all of this stuff.

And they are using these organizations.

And these organizations are going to be chewed up in the end is the minute they stop becoming a shill

for

the the system, government and business.

Do you agree with that?

Yeah, I mean, in terms of people, there being like a lot of useful idiots, I agree because I was one of those useful idiots, you know.

I was thinking that what I was doing was a good thing.

It was the right thing.

I thought my beliefs were correct and they were morally superior.

I, you know, and now I know that I was wrong.

And part of how how I know that I was wrong is because I really started investigating the money behind what was pushing this movement.

And where, you know, and I have to.

Well, you know, there's a lot of collusion going on because when I worked at the LGBT nonprofit, I didn't really think of it at the time.

It was later in my life when I started investigating money behind other social movements that I realized that I could like take this analysis and apply it to to the work I was doing at the LGBT nonprofit.

So then I started to realize like wait a second, I was being paid by New York State to go into public schools to indoctrinate them with materials that were coming from large nonprofit organizations like GLISSIN and GLAAD and those organizations are partnering with the government and with foundations and the private sector.

And all of this is being done to push this propaganda and target our children in the public school system.

And you say this is to erase the female.

Well, yes, that is really foundational to this entire thing.

First and foremost, they want to disrupt our sense of self and erase the division between the sexes.

Because human beings are a sexually dimorphic species.

There's males and there's females.

And everybody who does not fall into male or female, well, they actually still do.

They have hormonal differences or chromosomal differences, but they still fall into one of the two.

We're dimorphic.

But this is being erased.

in our reality right now when children are being taught that sex is a spectrum.

Even the World Health Organization has recently, and you know, they're part of the United Nations.

The World Health Organization recently said that they're going to be expanding their definition of sex and that they want to extend it to include people with trans and gender diverse identities.

So I want to ask you, I'm going to take a one minute break, then I'm going to come back and I want to ask you what their motivation is for this.

And then I want to get into your background of China and, you know, the Red Guard and

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Okay, so we're talking to K Yang.

She is a deprogrammer,

and you can find her website,

femaleerasure.com.

So Kay,

the only thing that really makes sense to me is that this is a Malthusian

slash Marxist kind of

movement that is really anti-human at its core.

It's evil.

They're breaking up the family and everything else.

Why do you think

what is the motivation for these people to do this to our children?

Yeah, thank you.

So right before the break, I was just talking about how there's this desecring of our bodies that's going on.

They're breaking down the boundaries between the two sexes.

And, you know,

when there is a quote-unquote movement that is sterilizing children and desexing our reality and the name of gender identity, this is genocide.

This is a usurping of, you know, what they're really trying to do is usurp female reproductive control.

And we're facing this attempted takeover of the ownership of the human body, of human biology, but really the focus is on the woman's body and the woman's womb and all of these, you know, miraculous, unique bits and moving pieces and parts of the female body that make pregnancy and birth possible.

So this is really about controlling reproduction and birth on this planet.

And we're moving into,

or we're already in, the fourth industrial revolution.

You know, Klaus Schwab has his whole book about it.

And the fourth industrial revolution really demands the erasure of the sex-based rights and realities of females.

And this is under the guise of LGBT inclusion.

Now, at the same time, they are erasing us in language and in law, they're simultaneously exploiting the very nature of female reproductive biology.

And this is happening through through the implementation of new technologies like external wounds.

You know, for example, they already have in Philadelphia at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, they already were growing lamb fetuses and plastics in bags.

I know.

Right.

And now they're in the process of getting FDA approval for a biobag device to grow human babies in.

I mean, I don't know how we, how I didn't know about UK in advance.

You are so spot on.

And the fact that you have 10 years ago were on the opposite side,

what Klaus Schwab and the WEF are doing, the World Economic Forum with a great reset, is so anti-human and it is about population control.

Almost everything they're doing is about population control.

So you are now in a place where

tell me your experience with China and what you're seeing, the parallels from China.

Yes, so well, I just want to be clear because I think there was a little bit of miscommunication.

I'm not actually from China.

I was born in New York City.

Okay.

It's my mother's family that's from China, and they were forced to flee China during the Cultural Revolution.

Okay, good.

Well, they saw it and left.

Yes, and you know, I actually want to talk about that a little bit in terms of the intergenerational communication.

There's this whole culture of shame and silence for survivors, and it's really led to a complete loss of communication between the generations.

Like the narrative is just not there.

And this is a really well-known and documented cultural stigma where like people who have lived through it, the older generations who are really dying out right now, they don't talk about it.

And it's customary that you're not supposed to ask any questions.

I remember when I was a child and I wanted to know more about my family's history.

And I would like innocently ask questions or just out of curiosity, and I was told not to ask or say anything because it's bringing up something painful.

And it created a blanket of silence and shame and really confusion over the whole thing.

Okay, we are going to ask those questions and have you answer them.

What the parallels are and what happened, and then how do we deprogram our children?

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This

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I'd never heard of deprogramming children before.

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And there was this story in the New York Post by a writer Dana Kennedy.

And I mean, she, this is such a great article on how people are pushing back and trying to find help for their kids.

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Kay Yang, I've asked her to stay on a little bit longer.

She is the creator of StopFemaleErasure.com, researcher, filmmaker, artist, activist, known now as the D programmer.

She is spot on so far on what she's talking about and what the problems are.

I want to touch real quick with Kay,

the lessons we should learn from the Chinese Cultural Revolution and what's being used here that runs the same.

Okay.

Yeah, thank you so much, Glenn.

So, right before the break, I was talking about the cultural stigma and shame that exists in Chinese culture around talking about the cultural revolution and other things from the past.

But I think it's really important that we disclose the truth of the past, because if we don't do that, then we become incapable of learning.

Correct.

And we have to learn from that.

If we don't learn from it, then we don't, we're not not capable of having a clear trajectory of how we're going to move forward into the future.

You know, and I can see that mistakes of the past are being repeated.

And we can do something about that, but we have to be willing to do the hard work and make the effort,

really to take the risk and tell the truth.

And that's why I appreciate you having me on the show today to talk about this, because there are so many,

there are so many comparisons to be made.

And one thing I want to start by saying is that I don't know if you've ever heard of this term, Glenn, it's transgenocide.

Have you ever heard of this?

No, I have not.

So it's a really ridiculous claim that I've heard at this point hundreds, if not thousands of times.

And it's usually made by these, you know, whiny, greasy men who are angry that they can't have total access to female spaces and to groom children.

You know, and they are saying that when we tell them that they can't do these things, it's akin to genocide.

And we want to kill them and we want to erase them.

But I want to say, you know, during Mao's Cultural Revolution, this was widely cited as the largest mass murder in history.

There's at least 45 million people were worked, starved, beaten, and tortured to death.

And that's a real genocide.

And we need to have cogen meanings for words.

You know, these are the same people that don't know what a woman is.

And now they're going to say that men not being able to perb on kids in the bathroom is genocide.

This is ridiculous.

So

I have to tell you,

I had heard that term.

I just didn't take it seriously.

And

I thought there was some other term that

some other definition of that term.

Right.

When you look at what happened with the Cultural Revolution in China, it was a genocide.

And you get to a place, and I don't know how to get people to understand, when you have taken a big section of the public and you've said, these are terrorists, these are genocidal maniacs, these are whatever they are, you can no longer live with them.

And I've been warning that this is the way genocide does happen.

You are led to it slowly

and then you just separate yourself and then it's over.

I have a very good friend who told me that their daughter actually said to them, very, very,

very, very progressive and and indoctrinated, and said,

they were talking about some stupid problem in the world.

And she just snapped and said, you know, it won't be solved until people your age and people like you just die.

And she was serious.

And

that should be a first sign of, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, wait a minute.

We are dehumanizing people and indoctrinating them with these lies that lead to death.

Am I wrong?

No, this is very dangerous, what's happening.

And, you know,

when Mao instructed the Red Guards to go out and destroy the four olds, I don't know if you know about this or if the audience,

but the four olds for the audience are old thinking, old customs, old culture, and old habits.

Now, you can see a parallel to what's happening in our society where the old way of thinking, the normal way of thinking,

assessing the reality, the material reality that's right in front of our eyes, this is being rejected for this belief system in which we're expected to believe a complete inversion of reality.

All of our old cultural institutions are being attacked.

Old customs are being attacked.

You're not even allowed to enter a classroom and refer to the students as boys and girls anymore.

You can't go to the grocery store and call the cashier ma'am or sir because this might be offensive if they don't identify like that.

So you can see the

crossover here, right?

Thinking, culture, customs, habits are all on the chopping block.

And then what Mao did was that he gave the Red Guards basically a free pass to

destroy these old ways of thinking.

And when he said destroy them he meant literally to physically destroy to go out and to violently attack and target and tear down people who were still participating in the old ways and who were adherents to them So I see this, what's happening right now.

You have at the macro level, you have like the United Nations, the World Economic Forum colluding with federal and state governing bodies, and they're all facilitating the branding of any opposition to trans as hate.

And they're saying any resistance to this is hatred, and it must be stopped at all costs for the sake of humanity.

So that's happening at the macro level.

Now, the message that sends at the micro level to these people who call themselves trans rights activists or so-called Antifa is that they are empowered to physically target and harass parents, mothers, fathers, and especially women in general who speak out against this ideology.

I know that you have been targeted and we're going to have to have you back

because there's so much to this

and you're such a good spokesperson on it.

But can we spend just a couple of minutes on

how do we begin to find a deprogrammer?

How do we know our children need to be deprogrammed?

What do you do in deprogramming?

yeah absolutely thank you glenn and i would love to come back to talk more about any of this um the truth is you know we're really all under

influence right we can't say that we're not being influenced by propaganda and media that's inundating us 24-7.

It's really just about how what degree we're under the influence and how much we're aware of it.

And parents really need to be aware of what's going on with their children because there's this this old school understanding of cults and brainwashing that we get from pop culture.

And it usually invokes this like, you know, the image of people being dragged out of their home, brought to some place that's far away from their families and society.

And they're like locked up on a remote farm somewhere or whatever.

But today, the internet really has so many different social media apps and messaging forums.

It's basically like the internet is full of these virtual communes.

and it's likely that your child is already being siloed into a funnel of information and it's fundamentally altering their belief system and their behaviors.

And if you don't notice it now, you will soon.

And children are being lured into these virtual communes and their parents are often sitting in the same room as them.

Now, what do you mean they're being siloed into these virtual communes?

What does that mean?

Well, basically what I mean is they're being sucked into these little niche communities online.

Yeah.

And the community really starts to supersede external influence from the family and society.

And the more and more that these children identify their lives with what's happening on the other side of the screen in these virtual communities, the more at risk they become because these devices and apps, they're very dissociative.

You know, it can be really easy to lose touch with your immediate reality I know that I know and I think everyone listening knows what it feels like to lose track of time when you're scrolling on an app or something yeah and it's designed that way so are you saying that that is far more dangerous than what's being taught in school not to diminish but that that is the biggest threat is social media

i think it is a little bit more of a threat than what's being taught at school school because, you know, Glenn, you and I know that the public school system has been used for indoctrination outside of this issue, right?

Of course.

Right.

Of course it has.

So we know that children are already being indoctrinated to all types of beliefs and ideologies and given misinformations and half-truths about history.

That's a norm.

That's like almost normal in our society.

What's not normal is this new relationship that children have with their phones.

You know, and I remember, I'm fortunate that I remember a time in the world, you know, before the internet when I was in like third or fourth grade.

I don't remember much of it, but I do remember, I do remember a reality that wasn't totally inundated by it.

And, you know, kids today, like, they don't really have the same type of lives that myself and my friends had when we we were growing up.

Their lives and their friendships today are mostly playing out in these virtual spaces.

Okay.

So

I, boy, I want to come back and talk to you because just the experience that you had growing up is tremendously different than the experience I did.

I remember when there were only three channels on television and our life was different.

And that doesn't necessarily mean it's

better than or worse now or better now.

However,

we are doing experiments on our kids with social media and technology that I think we will really

quickly learn to regret.

And, you know, there's something to everybody in Silicon Valley, you know, not letting their kids online.

Yeah, not using a device.

Wow, what do you know that we don't know?

And unfortunately, too many of us are sucked into it ourselves.

So, Kay,

I've got to take a quick break.

And when I come back, we'll only have a couple of minutes, but I want to talk to you about

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And how do we know if they're any good or not?

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We are going to have to have this guest back.

Maybe we'll do a podcast with her.

Kay Young, she is a D programmer to help people.

What did I say?

Young?

Yang.

Kay Yang.

She's a deprogrammer.

She helps parents, you know, get their thinking kids back.

I don't want my kids to be conservative or liberal.

I want them to think for themselves.

And how do you do that, Kay?

I'm so glad you opened that way, Glenn, because I really want to advise parents to be careful and really just advise caution because there could be people out there who are trying to scam you or looking to expose

expose you, your family's personal information, exploit your personal information.

And also some of what might be going on under the name of deprogramming might be actually polarizing your child back to the other side.

And what you don't want is for your child to leave one polar extreme for the other.

You want them to do just as you said, to be able to think for themselves.

Right.

So, you know, I have to be clear.

I'm not just a deprogrammer.

I'm actually, quote, the deep programmer.

I say that for a couple of different reasons.

One is that it's my handle that I've been using online for over five years now.

Before I started speaking publicly, I was doing anonymous work.

And you can go to thedeprogrammer.com to see videos that were banned by YouTube.

And I also consider myself the D programmer because I actually was a programmer myself.

I was going into schools, programming, indoctrinating youth, and I was also doing it.

We'll have to talk about this maybe on another episode, but I was also doing this outside of my role at the LGBT Center later in life in colleges and universities.

So I was a programmer, and now that I've deprogrammed myself, I feel like I can call myself the deprogrammer.

I want to help other people.

And you know, it's really common for people who exit cults to seek these like exit counselors.

And usually those people are former cult members themselves.

Right.

And that's what it's like for me.

And that's why I'm able to understand so intimately the machinations of how all of this works and how your children are being reached and programmed.

And if you just go out there searching for a random person, I cannot guarantee that they're going to know any of this.

Most likely they won't.

I think this is pretty exclusive.

That is, you know, it is really a little frightening.

I'm glad you ended it with that because that was my fear.

How do we know who we're getting?

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We are focusing today based on a story that I found in the New York Post a couple of weeks ago.

We're focused on our children and the programming that they're going through and the deprogramming that they need.

There is, I think her name is Dana Kennedy.

She is a writer for the New York Post.

She wrote this article.

I read it and I had never heard of deprogrammers.

You know, you hear of deprogramming people that are in cults, but

I don't know why, because I believe that the Church of Wokeness is a religious cult.

And it has its own doctrine, and it also has

its punishments if you don't bow down to the right God at the right time.

And our children are being indoctrinated.

Well, Melinda Rockwell is a mom that I read about in that story.

And her daughter needed reprogramming after college.

And so we wanted to talk to her.

Melinda, welcome to the program.

How are you?

Thank you, Glenn, for having me.

We love your show.

I'm a great fan.

Wait, you're from New York, though, aren't you?

Oh, it's weird.

I am

very much born and raised in New York, but I'm a reasonable, rational human being.

Yeah, good for you.

So tell me about the situation with your daughter.

What happened?

Well, the situation was Annabella was a, you know, she was from New York and raised part-time, middle school, Bahamas, traveled all over the world.

We considered ourselves very open-minded,

kind of gypsy in our thinking.

And, you know, I always always said rules don't apply to us because we're free thinkers.

So I did, we bent over backwards to get her into an Ivy League or Seventh Sister School.

We did that.

One of the reasons she went with a coach, Scott Williams, who was a major, major coach, respected Agassiz coach, and Tommy Haas got her, I say he got her into Mount Holyoke, two other schools, Bryn Mawr and everything.

Mount Holyoke seemed to be the least crazy of the schools because they had a top riding team there.

And she went off with a, she had a

guy, a boyfriend,

very much in her life.

And little by little, the friends there, she hung around with a lot of kids that had gone to private school, you know, boarding school, so they had that in common because she'd gone to boarding school.

Little by little, we don't like your boyfriend.

We don't like him.

We don't want him to visit here.

You'll have to go visit him at Hobart if you want to see him.

We don't like him.

So little by little, and then the end of the second year, she said, Mom, I think I want to look at other schools.

She came to look at Florida, Lynn University and was almost there but you know that the con is

everybody around here well you can't leave Mount Holyoke how could you ever leave Mount Holyoke you know of course and of course that's why we wanted her there for the sheepskin so and I will say it it when she shows that degree she gets any job it doesn't you know it's that it was that important anyway by

We certainly noticed

junior year, by senior year, I didn't know who this kid was.

And I mean, so seriously that I had, I had a cousin that was in a cult.

It was S.

Forum, and she was

from the 70s,

crazy.

Yeah, but she got into it

in the 90s.

And it was about seven years and withheld her grandchild from my aunt.

It was all day long.

My aunt lived in my building, so I was hearing, you know,

I've got to get a lawyer to get grandparents' visitation rights.

Although my cousin took the check, I guarantee you, she took the money every month.

So you have actual cult experience in your family.

You've seen it.

Yes,

yes, but also I had been in a

theater in New York,

the National Improvisational Theater in New York.

It was in Chelsea.

And I had no idea at the time that all these happy people were actually all Scientologists.

And they did try and push it.

And I just

I got rid of them by saying, I have no money.

I can't pay for your courses.

Can't do it.

No money.

Bye-bye.

And they actually left me alone.

But,

you know, they don't give up easily.

So I recognized this.

So anyway, by the time, and I did notice when I went to the Parents' Day,

these teachers at the college were speaking of gender and things in the German class.

They were going on about indoctrination, about the patriarchy.

I heard this and I thought, well, this is very strange.

I knew, to me, they were lunatics.

And I knew that Annabella wasn't going to fall for this because she was free thinking and we were

we were we were normal rational you know you were not necessarily New York liberal you were classic liberal

classic liberal we were raised I was raised with a very powerful great grandfather who when

you know we knew we knew the real world if you went against the system if you ever spoke against him he would literally tell a newspaper magazine we will withdraw our advertising We knew the real story, and we knew you have to sort of work around it if you want to get your point out.

So

for her to have been, I mean, she's, when I tell you she's traveled, she was in, you know, a month in India at 12 years old, you know, she's been around.

So for this little hokey school of 2,000 people in

Massachusetts to be able to get a 21-year-old's brain and completely crush her spirit so much that she was a zombie.

When she came home, she wouldn't come home for vacation unless she brought what we call the handler.

She would bring a handler.

And

it was so insane to hear a robotic speech pattern.

My mother, my sister,

any family members were upset.

Her father was a little oblivious to it because

he was not living with us at the time.

He was in New York with a very, very leftist girlfriend who was the niece of Larry Kramer, who founded ACT Up.

Yeah.

He was gone as far as that.

And he was bending over backwards to be the nice dad.

He is not that way anymore.

He completely understands what happened.

And he was with me.

Did you have arguments with her?

Was she how was she different besides kind of zombified?

She came, when she did come home, she was trying to tell me about the patriarchy.

And now we understand that she was sent home with a mission from the school, from the teachers, and the parents, the parents of these,

I can't call them liberal because they're not liberal, they're unaccepting.

So I'll say lefty kids.

The parents were all pushing too, and they made a point of, come visit us on the weekends, oh, come to us, we're here to embrace you and your newfound liberalism.

So I'm very, I'm kind of dramatic with this.

But anyway, so she came home and she would argue with us at the table about how women couldn't have bank accounts until the 1970s.

They couldn't have credit cards, and they were under very pressured.

And I look at her and say,

your victim mother picked you up and moved you to the Bahamas, got a job, supported you, sent you to private school, paid for your tennis lessons, paid for your figure skating.

What are you talking about?

My mother was, although legally married, she was a single parent who raised four children, one of them handicapped.

We have never, we went to girls' schools.

We've never experienced patriarchy.

I never even had to show a resume in my life.

You present yourself.

You're your own credibility.

There's no patriarchy.

And

I'd even worked in Wall Street for a little bit.

So this is crazy.

But she also, they did everything to keep blinders on.

They've given them buzz.

They've given them tools to ignore any

parental love, parental emotion, parental rules, your cultural rules, everything.

So even if she went to, say, church on

candlelight service for Christmas Eve, something that's beautiful, even if you're not religious, everybody loves to do that, right?

Yep.

The look on the face was like, I will not concede.

I will not let it get into me.

It's not coming to me.

So when I say these are zombies, it's no different than what the Moonies were, which

You know, I knew from the airports when I would leave school in the late 70s, early 80s.

Okay.

So,

Melinda, hang on just a second.

I need to take a one-minute break, and I want to talk to you about how your daughter was deprogrammed, assuming that she is, and what you're doing now.

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We've had two people on today's show that were like should not have ever listened to this program and would not

be friendly per se to me

and the things that I, but people, liberals, this is why I keep saying liberals and Democrats, you have to separate them.

They're not all just a block.

You have to separate them from the extreme leftists.

Those are the guys doing the damage.

I think there's a lot of liberals and a lot of Democrats that are walking amongst us and they're either not awake or they don't want to wake up because they're kind of deep into it and they're like, I don't know what to do.

But once they wake up, they are on the Constitution side and common sense side.

So we're talking to Melinda Rockwell and your daughter, did you get her deprogrammed?

How did you do that?

This is what I did.

And I've got to say, my mother and my sister were vital because they

assured me that I wasn't crazy.

As I would go, I was on the tennis team here in

Palm Beach County.

And I would have tears coming out of my eyes.

And I could only say this to certain people.

And you've got a lot of people saying, your daughter's grown.

Leave her alone.

So my family, you know, validated everything and said, you've got to get help.

So I started with looking up every sort of deprogrammer, cultic, international cultic education, I think, studies, and speaking to the famous cult deprogrammers, the not-so-famous deprogrammers, getting as much information as I could.

And also dealing with another mother who we've known since kindergarten in New York.

who was going through other issues with her daughter.

And they were all appeasing.

And most of them said, you must appease your children.

And I have to point out, I'm delicate with the words deprogrammer because it's getting out there, but it's not necessarily legal.

It's a very iffy, you can't just grab your child out of an actual cult.

Although Catherine Oxenberg, you know, is a heroine.

But you can't just do it.

And some of them are very careful.

And there's a wonderful lawyer, and he asked me not to actually mention his name, but he was very helpful.

And I see his my old emails to him and he referred me to two people, but it's not really legal.

So

I mean it also, Deep Programmer also is going to be twisted.

It already, they have already started, twisted into you're going to try to force your kids to be, you know, anti-LGBT or, you know, conservative.

No, I want my kids to critically think.

They can make any decision they want, but I do not want them bowing down to some ideology, any ideology.

I want them to critically think everything through.

And when they can do that, if they choose to, you know, go this path or that path, that's up to them.

Well, they've taken away the rights of parents.

And I could give you, you know, so many, I don't have to tell you the reasons, but I think I want to just interject quickly.

Do you realize that New York State,

parents don't realize this, New York State has a law now that they're giving 13-year-olds medical rights to decide certain, including mental health laws for themselves.

And the doctors and the hospitals associated with them email people, email the parents and say, please supply us with your child's direct email now that they're 12 and over, because we will be dealing with them directly.

So in every last bit that they're trying to get rid of the parents,

when they're saying you're trying to deprogram away from LGBT or anything like that, you know, again, I'm a child of studio 54.

I was underage, but I was there dance.

I knew transvestites before everybody else knew them.

So this is a bunch of, you know,

it's ridiculous.

This is, you know, my eye doctor was Renee Richards.

So, but, but you're fighting a wall of vicious, militant people that are surrounding your child.

So, yes, you're right.

They're saying it's, it's almost like

what's not the repray.

They're praying the gay away.

They have

pray the gay away.

Yeah, in many states.

So yes, and this is why it's a very legitimate.

But I did the research.

I even went so far as to go to the court records in Connecticut.

There was a case that was,

I forget if it was a, it was some sort of cult, and I got the expert witness, one of the expert witnesses out of that and contacted.

So

it turned out that with all the information, and don't forget, there are definitely charlatans out of there out there.

Oh, you bet.

And even when I was trying to re-contact, trace my foot, speak to the people that I've spoken in 2015, I didn't get a call back from one.

And the secretary is saying, well, he's very, very busy, you know.

And I said, he's busy because my daughter has an article out.

You know, I would appreciate a phone call back.

Two of the ones that I consider charlatans did not return my recent calls.

The ones that are not asking for a lot of money, and I understand

that you're in touch with one of them, those are the ones that I valued.

So there was somebody eventually that was,

but I did not do what most of them said.

They were saying it was: if you can get, daughters are easy to get back.

If you can get them back, it usually takes about seven years to really get them back to normal.

And it did take about seven years for Annabella, she says, to really have her mind back.

And the answer to I'm putting my will on her is the appreciation and the thank you, mommy.

Thank you.

At this age, she just turned 30.

Thank you for never giving up.

She is the most happy

adult.

She has a full life.

It is fulfilling.

She has a helpful life, but she is happy.

And to see this, what was the old girl that we sent her off at 18

to see her this way, but even more appreciative because she was back from the dead, that is the answer.

Melinda, I have to thank you for what you're doing because I want to talk talk about one more thing before we run out of time and we're close.

You're starting a foundation and a website, rockwellfoundation.org, and that's going to be up in February, right?

And you'll have all of your research there.

Yes, I will.

And I have the research is not just on college at all because I have nieces and nephews.

I want to quickly add this.

When a boy goes into a boys' school, traditional boys' school in New York City, and there's a man in a dress or skirt in a lower school assembly discussing consent

without the parents' knowledge or permission, that was a trigger.

And so I have, and that was from GLSEN Gleason, which was founded by Obama's school bar.

Right.

Said that the man boy love was fine.

Right.

You'll have all of this and so much more.

I'd love to have her back.

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Today we're talking about the indoctrination of our children and

how they are not the same.

And I, again, I want to make this really clear.

I don't...

Let me put it this way.

I found

the

Latter-day Saint lifestyle what I wanted to be like.

Okay, I wanted my children, my family to be like the people that I knew in that.

And I found it to be true and it worked for me.

My kids, I don't choose for them.

They can be whatever they want.

And I said this to a school.

It was a Christian school.

And they said, oh, basically, you're Mormons and we can't have Mormons here.

And I'm like, I don't want you to change your doctrine.

We're not going to question your doctrine.

We know what it is.

And we want them to learn it.

and learn it well, first source, not from somebody else who's against it.

I want them to learn it because their choice is their choice.

I want all choices presented and then teach children how to critically think so they can make their own decisions.

They can't live their life feasting on what I believe.

They have to find what they believe.

So how do we get our kids back from this death cult that is teaching our kids not to question, not to speak out, not to think differently.

All of that is evil.

Okay, so we started today with Kay Yang.

She is the deprogrammer, and I think our last guest was actually talking about Kay, but I'm not sure.

And Kay is back on with us as well as the Jennifer De La Saga.

She is the producer of The Witness, True Stories of Children and Gender Identity.

It's a podcast.

And

she had to deprogram her own daughter.

Her own daughter had to go through treatment.

So we welcome Jennifer and Kay back to the program.

Hi, Jennifer.

How are you?

Hi, Glenn.

Thank you for having me on your show.

You're welcome.

Thank you for being so patient with me today.

I appreciate it.

No problem.

So

tell me about your daughter.

Your daughter was

transitioned

to a different sex without your knowledge by the school?

Yes.

She was in fifth grade, so she was 10 and 11 years old.

And the school,

yeah,

the school was using wrong sex pronouns for her.

And I did know that they were using the made-up name, but to me that was just the nickname she was using.

But because it was similar to her name and kind of androgynous.

But I did not know that the adults at school, her teacher and a therapist that she started seeing,

were using wrong sex pronouns for her and treating her as if she was the opposite sex.

Wow.

And so how did you find out about it and what did you do?

Well, what happened was

a few months into the year, and so this was happening from the beginning of the year.

And it was kept from us, her parents.

And

she used the words cutting and suicide to, and then she ended up getting in to see a special therapist at the school that was contracted with the school who also incidentally works for a hospital that has a gender identity and a gender clinic

Yeah, so and I didn't know any of this at the time, but so she

I

this therapist was really sold to me as as a great person to help with these issues, you know, which was the cutting and suicide

and

I told her that I knew because I did my daughter had been playing with these different identities which I wouldn't have even known to call them identities at the time but right but I knew she was playing with these ideas she had was an artist we allowed her in an online drawing forum which is where a lot of these kids fall into these I learn about these ideas on on the internet right many different places

but

and so she learned these ideas and she was playing around with them and I thought of it as, you know, just sort of

somewhat normal identity exploration for a preteen or a teen.

I did not realize that adults were supporting this.

I thought that they would, you know,

see it the same way that I did.

And I also didn't ever it didn't ever occur to me that they wouldn't be working in partnership with me.

They would be treating me as if I was the potential enemy of my child.

So

I was taken by surprise by much of it.

But what happened was

the therapist that she was seeing called me and to let me know that

my daughter was actually a boy and she wanted to, yeah, that she was using male pronouns in the new made-up name and wanted to have a

session with me and my husband to help our daughter come out to us as a boy.

She gave us three days to prepare for this.

Oh my gosh.

Even though, yeah, even though I had been asking her, you know, throughout the whole time she was seeing my daughter, what was happening, she never told me from the first half hour she sat down with her that she was using male pronouns.

And I only know that now because I got finally got the notes from their sessions together.

But so in addition to that, she wanted me to know that my daughter wanted to be in the boys' cabin for the overnight fifth grade camp.

It sounds like something a boy would say, hey,

I'm a chick, dad, and I think I should be in the girls' cabin on overnight summer night camp.

Yeah, but actually, I don't even think a fifth grade boy would normally want to do that.

Yeah, probably not.

A deviant.

Yeah, and so and honestly, what happened was I found out, it was presented to me as if my daughter had come to her and asked for this.

But what I found out later, after my daughter came out of all of this and I discussed, I asked her some questions, and one of them was what gave you the idea to go, because I was surprised, what gave you the idea to go into the boys cabin and she said that wasn't my idea my teacher asked me my teacher asked me if I wanted to go in the boys cabin and and she felt like she had to say yes because she had asked the entire school the whole you know environment there to accept that she was a boy and and and she'd gotten a lot of attention for it special treatment she got more popular

and she she I know which people don't believe that's happening but it is oh it is

But

she felt like she had to say yes.

And this teacher, he didn't, you know, he didn't ask her, what do you want?

He said, isn't this what you want?

So when he asked her that, that was a leading question.

He was leading her.

And I think this is very similar to what happened in the 80s with the recovered memory scandals.

That,

you know, those people were leading children.

I think this is happening on on so many different levels and very much happening in the schools.

Correct.

So how did you did you get a hold of Kay Yang?

Did Kay?

Go ahead.

I didn't actually.

I mean I came to Kay Yang and I have a lot of the same ideas about what

is happening.

Yeah.

And I came in contact with her through some of my advocacy.

So because I'm a nap.

So how did you get pull your daughter out of this?

Okay.

So

I got into a lot of different support groups.

I had some friends.

I actually had a friend whose child was going through this.

They actually had to move out of our state because in our state, at 13 years old, children can get medical treatments without their parents' consent or knowledge.

And

I'm in Washington state, and they bill parents with no explanation of benefits.

Yeah.

Right.

It's terrible.

But

I'm sorry.

How did I get her out?

We were.

Yeah, go ahead.

So I pulled her out of school.

We pulled her out of school.

I mean, that was the first thing that we did.

Because we had to get her out of the affirming environment.

And they clearly, they showed that they were not working in partnership with us.

They showed that we could not trust them.

So I felt uncomfortable leaving her there.

We pulled her out and it was right before the pandemic.

So it was very easy and she wasn't,

it was like so lucky for us actually.

And so she didn't feel like she had done anything wrong.

But we never put her back in.

I encouraged her.

I was like, you know, you don't want to go to middle school.

I knew that there were some really bad things happening at the GSA club at the middle school that she would go to, where, you know, girls were being pressured to take testosterone to prove that they were really transgender oh yeah oh my gosh yeah and and a girl who um went into the boys locker room she went many things that she did without her parents consent or knowledge um you know they found out after the fact um

and the boys didn't want her there

um so the boys don't want girls in their you know intimate spaces any more than the girls want them you know boys in there so um but anyway uh uh uh jennifer i we're out of time and i'm

we have to figure out a forum kay are you on the phone yes i am yeah um kay i ran out of time we gave kay like 45 minutes and ran out of time with her with so much to talk about good we have to find a forum where we can uh

you know even get the three of you guys together you know you two together and just be able to talk about it from start to finish because this is, I think, hey, maybe you can help me out.

This is really new.

And when something is new, it can become very, very dangerous.

But people are facing this problem and they don't know what to do.

Yeah, absolutely.

And I think

I really appreciate Jennifer sharing her story because it is a success story and we need a little bit of that right because what we're up against is so scary and it's so threatening and it's so huge and you glenn are very aware of the global nature of this right this isn't just happening here this is happening all around the world so there's really nowhere to hide um especially now with technology yeah um this can creep into your home and in your car wherever you are without your knowledge your child's gonna be being indoctrinated it's really

it's so insidious because it is global that everything is made to look like it's Republicans against Democrats or whatever.

It has nothing to do with that.

This is a global movement, and it is about people who think they can control and tell us everything.

And the people that want to live their own lives and are not bigoted or anything, just they, I don't believe that.

And leave me alone.

Right.

And just FYI, I'm a historical liberal.

I call myself politically homeless now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So there's many, many liberal, many, many of us who are fighting this are historical liberals.

I know.

You know what?

I think

I consider myself libertarian, but I'm probably also more classic liberal.

I just believe in the Bill of Rights.

I mean, can we just live the Bill of Rights and stop all this other nonsense?

Jennifer, thank you so much.

You have a website, Partners for Ethical Care.

Can you tell me a little bit about that, real quick?

Yes, our mission is to end child transition practices.

And we

build awareness, so we have a lot of awareness things that we do.

And we also support efforts to fight the gender identity industry,

such as legislation,

bringing people to testify, and things like that.

I will tell you,

as a listener,

you have to find what it is you believe you are the most passionate about.

I've set my life up since 2008 to preserve American history.

That's the one thing that I think I am uniquely equipped to be able to do.

And that's why I've gone out and spent everything, you know, my kids' college, you know, money, which I'm really happy I spent it.

I've done that because that's what I can do.

If you have resources of time, talent, or money, what is it you really care about?

If you care about these things, please look into Partners for Ethical Care.

Look into the organizations and the people that we've talked to.

Look in to Kay Yang.

You can find her at stopfemaleerasure.com.

They may not be right for you, but they may be.

If you are passionate about this, we have to help each other and connect with one another.

Back in just a minute.

Thank you, ladies.

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Glenn Beck.

I can't take it.

I cannot take it.

My head's going to explode.

I can't take it.

Here's the latest.

Axios, the rights new fight, gas stoves.

Despite official insistence that fears of a ban are unfounded, conservatives are suddenly championing gas stoves in a new culture war.

It's not our fight.

I can't think crazy enough to keep up with you people.

Washington state has already written it in to their no building codes, no more gas stoves.

And it all comes from a stupid environmentalist study that is completely ridiculous, saying, you know,

we should probably get rid of 48%

of all of our heaters.

They're gas.

And, you know, 40% of all stoves are gas.

We should probably get rid of natural gas.

We're not making this up.

We can't make up stuff that is this crazy.

Stop denying it.

The press is out of control.

Stop.

Stop with your non-stop lies.

It is.

Well, it's all part of the great reset.

That's not happening.

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