2023: A Time For Truth And Justice | Guest Host: Steve Deace | 12/29/22

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Guest Host, Steve Deace fills in for Glenn today and discusses the complications and deaths caused by the covid vaccine and how we need need to demand justice for what happened. Steve Kirsch joins the show and talks about his journey from being a covid vaccine supporter to realizing he was wrong and went on to debate vaccine supporters and was then banned on all social media platforms. Blaze TV Host of "Conservative Review", Daniel Horowitz joins the show to discuss the new book "Rise of the Fourth Reich" he and Steve Co-Authored.
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This is the Glenbeck program.

We are at the dawn of a new year, which,

given the shortness of the hour, requires a new and even more vigorous commitment to truth.

We will discuss that here next on the Glenbeck program.

Good morning.

We are winding down 2022

and 2023 looms.

My name is Steve Dace.

We are the Steve Dace show.

We typically are noon to 2 Eastern, right after Glenn Beck, right here on Blaze TV.

You can go subscribe to our podcast.

If you are unfamiliar with us, you'll see the last two episodes we did, our year in review episodes.

You get a pretty good taste of who we are and what we do.

I'm alongside my partners with that show, Todd Erzin and Aaron McIntyre, both here early on a Christmas break morning, gentlemen.

It is good to see.

It's been about a week.

Everybody have a great Christmas.

Everything go well with the Erzin family time.

Christmas was fantastic.

That's great.

Great to hear.

Aaron, how about you?

Yeah, it was a lot of fun, a lot of downtime, getting caught up on some TV shows and spending a lot of time with my 16-month-old.

So, you know, we're at the stage now with our family.

I'm going to be 50 next year, if you can believe that.

I'm going to be 50 next year.

So we married our oldest off this year.

We've got a senior in high school as well.

Our youngest, I took him to his orientation for his first job yesterday.

He'll have a car in a few months.

So, you know, we've got husbands now and boyfriends and girlfriends.

And you get to that age where you're not sure with commitments and everything else who's going to be together and what.

And we were just very blessed for everybody to be able to get together and make it convenient for all parties involved on every side.

And we had an absolutely terrific Christmas, man.

I mean, I just could not be more blessed.

I mean, I mean, kind of praise the Lord stuff.

When you get to this age, you're like,

just can't ask for much more than that.

That's where I'm at.

But you also start looking

at...

The clock is ticking, both when you hit an age like 50, but then when also

understand the signs of the times of where we are culturally right now in the West and here in the United States in particular.

So what I wanted to do this morning, because those of you that follow our podcast or subscribe to Blaze TV, you're not going to hear from us again together until Monday, January 9th.

That's our first day back.

So this morning, what I wanted to do is I wanted to take these three hours offered to us on the Glenn Beck Radio program,

and I want to take a crowbar

to the Overton window.

I want to smash.

We've seen a lot of iconoclastic smashing of stained glass windows

in our era.

Traditions, legacies, heritage.

We've seen a lot of the tearing down

of what we believe and what made America exceptional.

For the next three hours, I want to smash some shibboleths of the damned for a change.

Next hour, yesterday, actually, no, it was last week.

I just saw it yesterday.

Last week, a very important event, I think, happened in alternative media.

Right before Christmas, Ben Shapiro, who probably rivals,

I mean, if Ben doesn't have the largest overall platform on the American right, he is certainly at least in the elite tier with Glenn Beck

and our buddy Dan Bongino.

I mean, those three

probably are in their own tier for the largest overall platforms on the American right.

Fair?

Yes.

Yeah.

Right before Christmas, Ben interviewed

A gentleman I've had the pleasure to get to know over the last couple of years, Dr.

Robert Malone,

who is one of the original architects, patenters of mRNA technology.

Robert Malone had just had his account restored to Twitter by Elon Musk.

He tweeted five minutes ago, quote,

20 deaths per million doses.

60 million deaths per million boosted people with three doses.

The official death rate of COVID is about 100 per million primary infections, and a majority, up to 90% of those, are policy deaths, not COVID deaths and the jabs are more dangerous than COVID.

For Ben Shapiro to lend his platform to Robert Malone,

whom people like us have been lending a platform to for the last couple of years trying to sound the show far

about these poisonous jabs.

They are poisonous.

They are dangerous.

For people like Ben Shapiro to now use his platform, it'd be very easy for us to sit here this morning and say, hey, where were you the last couple of years?

The reality is, this isn't about us.

This is about saving lives and reproductive systems.

That's what it's about.

I had a little birdie that we quoted Todd in our number one best-selling book last year, Fauci and Bargain,

that was part of our composite character in our deep throat chapter, I guess we'll call it.

Sure.

He called me yesterday.

He said, Steve, a bunny of mine went to the doctor this afternoon with like a horseshoe-sized blood clot.

And the doctor said, in 15 years of practice, I'd never seen anything like this until recently.

You're my eighth one.

You're my eighth one.

We have to save lives here and reproductive systems from this depopulation scheme.

From this evil.

We have to stop these shots.

So if if we're at the point now

that Ben Shapiro is willing to listen to the Dr.

Robert Malone's of the world, and I think we actually have to take a crowbar to that Overton window and we've got to push it open even further now.

So, next hour, we're going to talk to somebody who was previously, like Robert Malone, verboten.

You weren't permitted to talk to.

But there are lives at stake, so we're going to do it next hour on this show.

In the third hour, we have to get serious as a society about accountability.

These evils will continue without punishment.

There must be a reckoning on multiple fronts, not just where the shots and COVID are concerned.

With politics on the American right, it's too late now.

Too late to dawdle.

When I started doing this, I did my first news talk show on the great 50,000-watt blowtorch, WHO in Des Moines,

in August of 2002.

I was 29 years old.

I just turned 29.

That was the first time I did a news talk show.

The stuff we're doing and talking about now in 2022, 20 years later, I would have never conjured within the bowels of my depraved imagination.

as speculative fodder for a talk show.

And yet here we are, way beyond

the stuff people like Rush and Glenn warned for decades.

If we let them do blank, it will mean we will go to blank.

We're doing all those things now, if not running over and past and through all those stop signs now.

The reason we on the right say things like politics flows downstream from culture is because on the right it does.

Because we are represented by such fecklessness.

and weakness

that out here in the cheap seats, we've got to terraform culture basically to get any action politically to follow that.

We've got to make it so safe and so obvious

for anybody, almost anybody with an R after their name, to finally act.

They don't have that problem on the left.

Whether it's the hard, hard, hard left, and a guy shows up with a little red book and says, we're going to do things differently around here.

Whole culture changes overnight.

Whether it's the technocratic left that we have now, word groomer, bad.

It's not gun control anymore.

It's gun violence, just Orwellian changing languages.

Men have periods.

Women aren't the only ones that have uteruses.

Birthing persons, just snap of the finger, like a Thanos snap.

And culture changes as a result.

There is one place on the American right, by the way, where it does work that way, Florida.

In Florida, there, you have a governor who governs as if he's a member of the left, meaning he just follows Lyndon Johnson's axiom, power is where power goes.

He exercises power.

And now the Florida culture, the country that 20 years ago gave us hanging Chads.

Broward County was a verb and an adjective.

Now

it's harder red and deeper red than Texas.

It might be the deepest red state in the Union.

The same state that Ron DeSantis won by less than 40,000 votes that over 50 years of presidential elections was decided by an average of 2.5 points, you could make a case.

It is the reddest state in America right now.

He hasn't been inaugurated yet for a second term.

Why?

Because he has wielded power,

been successful at it,

and now culture in Florida has changed.

But for us here on the right, For every Ron DeSantis we have or my good buddy Congressman Chiproy from the great state of Texas who's up there trying trying to play the role of the monk Telemachus, who stopped the Gladiator Games and the Coliseum.

He's up there in Congress.

Everybody went home for Christmas.

Chip is just in an empty congressional chamber yelling, please, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, like Telemachus said, stop what you're doing here.

This is terrible.

He's a voice crying out in the wilderness.

For every one of those we have, we are represented by, shall I say, legions

of backstabbers, not stupid,

backstabbers.

And so there must be accountability.

It must be a reckoning.

I don't know anybody who does accountability more than my buddy and colleague here at Blaze TV, Daniel Horowitz.

So he's going to join us for hour three.

But my worldview says that judgment has to begin in the house of God first, that we have to look at the plank in our own eyes

before we call out the speck of dust in somebody else's.

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I think

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All right, back here on the Glenn Beck radio program.

We are the Steve Day Show.

That is me, Steve Days, Todders, and Aaron McIntyre filling in here this morning for Glenn Beck.

So we are going to take the crowbar to the Overton window on the program today.

We're going to talk about trialsandexecution.com, and we're going to smash some shibboleths of the damned.

But we've got to make sure

we're prepared

for what comes next.

Now, I say this,

wanting to acknowledge up front,

this might be the most successfully deployed and engaged audience in modern American media history.

I mean, the amount of goodwill,

commitment, activism,

compassion, generosity that comes out of Glenn's audience is extraordinary.

I mean, I've benefited from it myself.

I'm going to come out with a movie next year called Nefarious.

Where I think we've accomplished something.

We have actually done a right-wing horror movie.

Could it be done?

We set out to do it.

There's no way that movie happens without the exposure that Glenn gave that book that it's based on, a nefarious plot, without the amount of you that heard that interview and went out and bought that book and raised its profile.

So

the fact I have a show at the Blaze, the fact the Blaze even exists is a testimony to the successful deployment of this audience.

So I think we need to recognize that from the outset.

We're not talking to your typical audience on the right.

I'm just, you know, I'm working all day.

Go home, watch Fox News all night, vote Republican, and to save America.

And oops, I did it again.

It didn't work.

This audience, you guys know better.

But we're going to need a little more.

That clearly has not been enough.

This morning, there's 1% of you.

And when Glenn is here, there's at least 10 million people that listen to this show every week.

Let's say with Glenn not here, and what are we?

There's the B team, what are we?

The K team, the L team, the N team, okay?

Let's say that that number's cut in half.

And there's 5 million people that are going to listen this week.

10% of 5 million would be 500,000.

1% would be 50,000.

There are over 80 countries in this world that don't have a standing army of 50,000.

Over 80.

That is a significant amount of people.

By the way, how many states do we have?

50.

I mean, imagine we just had 1,000 more people

running for state legislature, pestering their state legislature,

running for school board, pestering their school board.

Committing to say, no, we will not comply.

No, this will not stand.

No, we will not return.

No, we will not be governed by this.

We will practice the time-honored Judeo-Christian tradition of civil disobedience.

That would be extraordinary.

And here's why we're going to need it.

There's an elephant.

There's an elephant in the room.

And I mean that quite literally.

Let me give you an analogy that is very apropos for this time of year.

When Christ enters into the world,

the Jewish religion that he is born into, that he is a part of, that his parents are a part of, is divided into two, predominantly two camps.

There are offshoots of these camps known as zealots and others, but predominantly

the governing religious council known as the Sanhedrin is made up of two parties

that largely had become a duopoly.

One group known as the Sadducees.

These aren't perfect analogies, but they'll mostly fit, so we'll go with it.

They would be akin to today's Democrats.

They had given up the notion of a resurrection of the dead and therefore a judgment by the time that Christ arrives.

They are largely secular in nature.

They are uber-political about the machinations of the state.

They would be the closest thing that the first century

could probably

conjure to social justice warriors.

Dead churches.

Then there were the Pharisees.

They traced their lineage back to Ezra.

They were the people that held firm, that kept the faith during the judgments, the Dasporas

or diasporas.

Yet by the time Christ

arrives, they also had kind of been assimilated into the Sanhedrin duopoly.

So that when Messiah arrives, most of them don't see it.

A few do.

You know their names, Nicodemus, Joseph of Arimathea, a few do.

But most don't.

In fact, they're offended.

Hey, we're the ones that were the good ones.

We didn't depart from the faith.

We still believe in the resurrection and the judgment of God.

What do you mean you're calling us out?

But it was largely a whitewashed tomb, a tradition hollowed out.

The courage of conviction simply wasn't there.

You know, like

today's Republicans, by and large.

Sure, there's a few Joseph of Arimathea, as there's a few Nicodemuses.

We mentioned a couple already, right?

But by and large, whitewashed tombs abound.

And yet,

and yet, in this environment came the greatest movement in the history of the world.

How did 56 signers of the Declaration, with no ability to vote their way out of tyranny, how did they overcome?

How did the civil rights movement

50 years ago, 60 years ago, how did they overcome?

These are lessons we have to learn.

We're going to learn them next.

Stay tuned.

The Glenn Beck Program.

Back here on the Glenn Beck Radio program, we are the Steve Dace Show filling in for Glenn here today.

I'm Steve Dace, D-E-A-C-E with Todders and then Aaron McIntyre.

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Just look for Steve Dace there.

So here's where we are:

We don't have agency politically in America.

We just don't.

And when I started doing this in 2002 for the first time, made the first transition

from a sports talk host to a news talk host, filling in for the great Jan Michelson on 1040 WHO, the blowtorch there in Des Moines, 20 years ago this year.

I remember all the conversations and shows, conservatives need to finally take over the Republican Party.

About a decade, eight to 10 years later, the Tea Party, all the same conversations.

Time to take over the Republican Party.

Eight to 10 years later, now it's MAGA.

Time to take over the Republican Party.

Harmeet Dillon, I don't know her.

What I know of her, I like her.

She's not going to be the RNC chairwoman.

I can just tell tell you that right now.

And how do I know that?

Because Trump won't endorse her.

If Trump thought she was going to win, he would just endorse her.

Instead, he said, I like them both because he doesn't like to lose.

Sure, I'm sure Rana paying his legal bills for a couple of years helped.

But I think we also know, you know, Trump can afford his own legal bills.

He doesn't like to lose.

So you can tell whether Trump thinks his own people are going to win by whether he'll endorse them or not.

Clearly, Harmeet's not going to win.

Rona's going to win, and the fix has already been in.

We're just doing a dance here.

Just like after this last election, they all blew.

They had no business losing.

They turned right around and all the same people are still in charge.

The enemy we're up against here is the enemy.

The real one.

We're dealing with strongholds here, principalities.

We were just talking during the break, Aaron pointed out.

We're sitting here during the holidays.

How did the Spirit of the Age respond to Ron DeSantis blitz-krieguing,

Nagasaki,

Oppenheimering them, okay, in that election?

How did they respond?

Tail tucked firmly between legs, humility, regroup, any of that, any of that.

No?

Cults don't do that.

No, cults don't do that.

Can't stop, won't stop.

That's what cults do.

So over the holidays, while we're sitting here opening the show, you know, talking about how blessed we are to spend time with family, remember the reason for the season, like many of you that are listening right now.

What's the Spirit of the Age doing in Florida?

Hosting packed all-ages perv shows for groomers

for guys in their hairy sacks to teabag your children in public, despite the fact it's been criminalized in Florida by Governor DeSantis.

They're daring him.

We don't think you're going to do anything.

We think it's bluster.

Despite everything else the guy's already done.

If there was ever a Republican for the spirit of the age to say, say, okay,

one time, shame on you.

11 times, shame on me.

All right, don't test that one.

Would be him, right?

Yeah.

Doesn't matter, though, does it?

No.

Back for more.

What do you think if they're going to, if they think that way, if the spirit of the age

views Ron DeSantis that way?

How do you think it views

the other 99% of Republicans you're for?

Chris for the mill meets back on the menu, boys.

I mean, speed bumps,

enablers, collaborators, right?

Cover, cover, indeed.

Fig leaves, yes.

Guides, heralds, yes.

So this is where we come in.

We don't have the agency.

To vote our way out, vote, vote our way out of this.

In an election year, here's what Republicans did.

Betrayed us on the one issue they had never betrayed us on, guns.

They did that.

They did gun control.

Gay marriage, which is really just

have the federal government declare war on the church in America.

That's really what it is.

I mean, I was involved in the marriage amendment fights back in the day.

You guys know how many people were in jail in the 90s and 2000s for having a cohabitative gay relationship?

Do you know how many people were in jail in America?

Take a wild guess.

Small number.

It's a real, pretty, like the smallest one of them all.

Yes.

Zero.

Zero.

So why were we doing these marriage amendments?

Did they include provisions for the Roundup posse

who would go door to door, house to house?

Who are you sleeping with?

No, they contain no such provisions.

They were done to prevent the very things that are happening right now.

You will be made to care.

You can be canceled.

Bake the cake bigot.

We shut down your florist company.

You're kicked out of the military if you're a chaplain and you won't comply with your Christian values.

That's why we did this, anticipating this is where this argument would go post-Lawrence v.

Texas when the sodomy laws were thrown out and it was mainstreamed.

You'd end up with a secretary of transportation who somehow knows how to run the entire airline industry, even though he was mayor of a freaking armpit called South Bend, Indiana, who's just bringing up the rear while all these flights are canceled on ad infinitum.

You'd end up with something like that, who got the job just simply because he likes to have sex with guys.

Let's be honest.

What's Pete Buttage's other qualification?

Have you ever driven South Bend, Indiana?

It's Pothole America.

What's his other qualification for Secretary of Transportation other than he likes to have sex with guys and checks an intersectionality box?

None is the answer.

None.

That's why he has that job.

And that's why he's terrible at it because he has no qualifications.

That's why a lot of you are stranded right now or know someone who is, as we can, apparently.

COVID is airborne, but the flights in America are not.

All right?

No, we did this because we feared, if we didn't, they would take Lawrence v.

Texas and weaponize government against religious believers.

Is that not exactly what's happening right now, guys?

And that's exactly what

several of your Republicans, but trust me when I tell you there were many more.

Their votes just weren't needed, so they got away with lying to you.

That's what they they did in an election year.

They codified the federal government declaring war on the church in an election year.

And then in this omnibus bill they just passed, they basically just said this new Republican House has no budget, power, or leverage for a year.

By the way, just so happens, what's the number one power and piece of leverage that the House of Representatives constitutionally has?

Can you guys guess what it is?

The purse.

The purse.

And Republicans just wanted to make sure here in this lame duck session to quickly take that away from the new Republican Congress as fast as they could.

So you're disenfranchised.

So here's the deal: the deal is we don't count your votes in much of America.

See Maricopa County, Arizona.

We don't count your votes in much of America.

And then when we do count your votes and you win, your vote doesn't count because of who you ended up electing.

Sounds like a great system we're currently in.

We have no agency.

So we're going to have to do this ourselves.

The Puritans who hopped on the Mayflower

and planted the first seeds of what became American exceptionalism, how much agency did they have?

None.

The first Christians who were drawing fishes in the dirt as code, okay,

to avoid Roman persecution.

How much agency did they have?

None.

The civil rights movement more than a half a century ago.

How much agency did it have?

Very little.

The 56 men who signed a pledge of their lives, fortunes, and sacred honors, how much agency did they have?

Hang together or hang separately.

That was their agency.

This is where we are.

We're going to have to do this ourselves.

It sucks.

We have families.

We have companies.

We have jobs.

We have careers.

We have churches.

The last thing we need is one more thing to do.

But we are in a season right now that if we don't do this ourselves,

it will not get done.

We no longer have the luxury of outsourcing our citizenship and our activism to the political party that has not represented us for a long time, if we're all being honest with one another, but has made it patently clear in the last year plus, it's just not that into you.

Which means we never really had the luxury of outsourcing our citizenship to begin with.

Correct.

Correct.

The spirit of the age we are up against will not be satiated by typical election or political realities or contrivances or rivalries or realities.

It doesn't believe in reality.

We're going to have to be the ones

that stand up and say, no.

no.

I mentioned a name earlier.

Telemachus is a name that I mentioned earlier.

I'm going to tell you more about that name here when we come back in a moment.

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Back here on the Glenn Beck radio program, we are the Steve Day show filling in.

And

I hate to come on here

and ask an audience that does more than maybe any audience we have

to do a little more.

But I don't see what other options we have.

We just went through an election where, yes,

I think we, most of us understood many of the Republicans we were going to vote for weren't worthy of the label or the vote.

But voting for them was a symbol of demonstrating our disgust and disdain for the direction of this insanity.

And

I think a lot of us, myself included, assumed

that another layer of American patriot out there who maybe wasn't as engaged as us, maybe not quite as committed as us, but has a genetic or generic maybe is the word I'm actually looking for here, a generic understanding of this is unsustainable, would have shown up in droves, right,

and said

Need some grown-ups.

Exactly.

I mean, you know, you shall not pass here and no further.

And so we all showed up on election day, right?

The turnout was actually what the polls said when you look at the popular vote.

The turnout actually was Republican pretty much plus six, plus eight nationwide.

When you look at the popular vote, pretty much was what the polls forecasted, right?

We all showed up more than we ever have before and said, we got to make a statement.

McConnell, awful, terrible, but this is,

yes, he's corrupt.

Yes, he's not crazy.

This is insanity.

We got to stop this insanity, right?

These are the conversations we all had over this last year, correct?

Yes.

And then we waited for the returns, went home that night and waited for the returns and waited for that next layer of American patriot to say, Yeah, this is cray cray.

We can't do this.

And did they show up?

No, they didn't.

Didn't show up.

And I think we have to now accept

we're at.

We're the Gideon's army here.

Now,

the good news is

Providence has a way of doing its best work

in those circumstances.

But we have to embrace that mission and realize

we don't have any agency.

We just don't.

Here I am, Lord, send me.

That's exactly right.

That's a Catholic there,

okay, quoting the Bible for you, for my fellow evangelicals.

Who also likes the Martin Luther movie, right?

Here I stand, I can do no more.

How much agency did Martin Luther have?

None.

They were actually, they put

a death sentence on him.

Isn't it weird?

Like, all the people that did like all the greatest things in modern or in all of Western civilization history, at the time they began doing those things, guys, had like little to no agency from the mainstream process.

Huh.

Almost like our Lord once said something about you can't pour new wine in old wineskins, a new covenant, a new testament, huh?

A new commandment I give you.

Well, yeah,

that's kind of the way things work around here, right?

Yes.

Yeah.

And I think more than ever before,

we have to walk into that reality and embrace it in this new year.

Gentlemen, your thoughts.

Yeah, if your ears right there were pricking a little bit and saying, oh, this is getting a little bit churchy now,

folks, there's no

other

way.

Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

Either you accept that, just as other generations way before you have had, or they have perished, you too will perish.

If,

in whatever this looks like down to the local level, if what we call the spirit of the age, it's kind of a catch-all term for

the devil's work in this age, whatever that may present itself as,

if that is not adequately punished,

whatever that looks like,

if that is not adequately punished, just like a toddler who is not adequately disciplined,

you

will get more.

You will get more of the behavior.

In Florida right now, what's standing out to me is the drag performances Steve mentioned in passing, packed venues.

Somebody's got to be held accountable for that.

Because all that's going to happen if that is not held accountable

is you're just inviting more.

They will feel emboldened.

Have we not seen that already bear itself out?

Accountability, justice, and punishment.

To that end, I'm emboldened.

If we're at the point now, Ben Shapiro is going to talk to Robert Malone.

Let's crowbar that Overton window a little further, shall we?

Hey, man, let's invite a new layer of radical into the conversation.

We will do that when we come back.

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Let me put this very plainly:

we have to stop these shots.

And we'll talk to somebody who will tell us why that is the case next on the Glenbeck Radio Program.

We are the Steve Dace show filling in for the Glenn Beck radio program here this morning.

And as I said an hour ago, we came in off of our Christmas and New Year's break to smash some shibboleths of the damned.

And one of those we're going to focus on this hour are the poisonous COVID jabs and why we have to stop these shots.

And I will tell you, when I got into this line of work, I'm Steve Dace alongside my partners on the show, Totters and Aaron McIntyre.

You can follow me on Twitter at Steve Dace Show.

You can subscribe to our podcast as well.

That's D-E-A-C-E, we're the show, normally after Glenn here on Blaise TV.

When March 16th of 2020 happened, I just,

I didn't get into this business thinking I'd have to know or even know what it, what, things like,

an infection fatality rate was.

I'd not, you know, immunology, virology.

I didn't understand these terms.

I didn't know what it, I didn't know a T cell from a T bone, okay?

This is not what I thought I was going to get into this business to discuss when I got into it 20 years ago.

And lo and behold, these are the terms I need to know because this is threatening to end our entire way of life in real time right this minute.

And so when the vaccines arrived, this time last year,

or this time two years ago,

we were still trying to defeat masks and lockdowns and all of that propaganda and all that PSIOP and all that nonsense.

I didn't have time to go through a lot of the test information.

And we just made a decision as a show.

They're mass distributing these things.

We're going to see in real time whether their claims measure up, right?

And it didn't take long, only a few months for us to see, oh,

side effects, adverse side effects.

And looking back on it now,

we probably should have assumed the same people that lied to us about masks and lockdowns and everything else were going to lie to us about this too.

And yet here we are.

One of the gentlemen who has been at the forefront

of aggressively pushing back on these poisonous jabs and

was rewarded with the blacklist for it

is going to join us now.

His name is Steve Kirsch.

And Steve, we want to welcome you from one Steve to another, the Glen Beck Radio program.

Hope your family's having a great holiday season.

Thank you for agreeing to come on here during the holiday break.

We really appreciate it and the work that you've done over the last year plus, brother.

Thank you.

Thanks, Steve.

It's good to be here.

Tell us a little bit about you.

Who is Steve Kirsch, and how did you become an enemy of the state?

I was a high-tech serial entrepreneur.

I've started six or seven companies, had a couple of billion-dollar market cap companies.

COVID hit.

I was locked out of the office because I was told not to come into the office because you might spread COVID.

Started looking around for how I could make a difference.

And scientists said...

that I talked to said that early treatment was the fastest, cheapest, and safest way to end the pandemic.

So I started the COVID-19 Early Treatment Fund.

We funded studies like fluvoxamine.

And I also got vaccinated because the FDA said that this vaccine was safe and effective.

And I still trusted the FDA, even though I didn't trust the NIH, I still trusted the FDA because the FDA has this long history of being

just super picky about drugs that are approved.

And I thought it was amazing that they had this new technology that they could deploy so fast.

And I didn't even bother to do the research on this.

I just basically trusted what I was told.

And I got

the Moderna vax in March of

2021.

And I got

two shots of that.

And then about a month later, I got this message on Twitter

from one of my followers, and she asked me, is the vaccine safe?

And I said, Of course it's safe.

It's the safest thing ever.

I mean, we were assured by the authorities that they've never seen anything this safe.

And I said, Why do you ask?

And she said, Well, three of my relatives got the shot, and they died a week later, and they were perfectly healthy.

And then I said, Well, that's impossible.

That's statistically impossible.

It couldn't be the shots.

And she said, Yeah, but they're dead.

And, you know, there's no way to come back from that.

I mean, so I basically mentally filed it and said, that's weird.

You know, that is just really strange.

And then a week later,

Tim Damroth,

who

cleans our carpets,

came to clean our carpets and he shows up.

He's wearing a mask.

And I'm giving him a hard time.

I said, don't you know if you get the vaccine that you don't have to wear a mask?

And he said, well, I couldn't get the two shots because after the first shot, I had a heart attack two minutes after I got the shot.

And he said that his wife also had Parkinson's syndrome

for months after she got her shot in the arm that

they shot her with.

And I'm going like, whoa,

maybe...

Maybe I should look into this.

Maybe I should look at the data.

So I started looking at the data.

And the best data, the best safety data is the VARIS system, because that's what the government spends tens of millions of dollars every year to maintain that.

That's the early warning system to say something is wrong.

And I look at that, and I said, man, this vaccine is the most unsafe vaccine we've ever seen in VARES.

And I'm looking at the data, and the data in VARES is all super consistent.

It's like there is no way to explain this other than we have a very dangerous vaccine.

Steve, pause for a second there.

Tell our audience that doesn't know maybe what's VARES.

Oh, VARIS is the vaccine adverse event reporting system.

So if you have an adverse event,

if you knew about the VARIS system, you could report it or your doctor is supposed to report

any kind of vaccine-related injuries that might be vaccine-related to the VERIS system.

So there are reports that are causal, and there are reports that could be just there because it came along for the ride.

So for example, if the vaccine killed people from heart attacks and you had diabetes, it would show up as you're having diabetes in the VARES report, but it wouldn't say that you had diet.

It would say that you had diabetes previously.

So it wouldn't necessarily say you had diabetes after the shot.

Why VARES is interesting is you can look at the reports and you can see, well, did the person have diabetes before the shot?

Did he have diabetes after the shot?

Was he well before the shot?

What happened after the shot?

So Veris allows you to do that.

And when you look at all these comparisons and you see what's happened to people, it's unexplained.

The only explanation that fits is

that this vaccine is killing people.

And it's killing people on the order of

two per thousand injections.

And that may not seem like a lot, but

there's been 13 billion injections or something like that, right?

Yeah.

So, well, yeah, for the United States.

So, this is not based on injections, this is based on people.

So, if you basically vaccinate with one or more doses, a thousand people, you should expect, and this is people of all ages, so this aggregate.

Now, if you inject just older people, the death rates are much higher.

But if you inject the entire population, a mix of an average population, you'll get about two deaths per thousand.

So let me translate that.

Okay.

We've injected 250 million people in America.

Two per thousand is 500,000 people that the U.S.

government has killed.

And, you know, I get into debates

with people who

say, no, no, that's not right.

But you see, they can't tell me.

So if all of those death reports in VARES was not caused by the vaccine, then what caused it?

And I actually got on.

Artificial sweetener, Steve.

That's the new one.

Artificial sweeteners.

Well, it's interesting because I got on with

a guy who's a paid representative.

His name is Drew.

I don't know what his last name is because

he has some sort of pseudonym, I think.

But he admitted that he is being paid by Pfizer, by sorry, by Moderna

to promote the vaccine narrative that the vaccines are safe and effective.

So I got onto this two-hour discussion with him last night, and it's recorded for everyone to see.

I'll be posting it later today on my Substack at stevekirsch.substack.com.

But he basically said, oh, well, all those deaths and veras are due to COVID.

And I'm like, stunned.

This is a guy who is representative of Moderna saying, in effect, that there were no COVID deaths,

you know, virtually zero COVID deaths reported in VARES in 2020, but in 2021,

only associated with the COVID vaccines.

Are there these 500,000 deaths?

So what this guy is saying, and I don't believe him, but the Moderna rep is saying, no, it wasn't the vaccine that killed him.

It was COVID.

So essentially, he's saying that if you take the Moderna COVID vaccine, you will die from COVID.

Yeah.

So what's the point of even risking the vaccine?

In other words, they just replaced one lie with another.

What's the point of risking the vaccine if it doesn't protect you from dying anyway then?

No, it's worse.

It's actually going to kill you at a higher rate than COVID would.

I mean, he's basically, he basically admitted, we went on for two hours.

He said he was an expert.

He said it's impossible for the vaccine to kill you from the vaccine.

But he then, so then I said, well, so what's causing these deaths in Veris?

He says there's COVID, which means that the vaccines are causing you to die from COVID if you believe what he said.

So either you believe me, where

it is the vaccine that is killing 500,000 people.

because there's no evidence that it's COVID, or you can believe what the drug company is telling you, which is those deaths are caught, the vaccine is causing you to die from COVID.

As soon as you get the vaccine, you're going to die from COVID within weeks or days or months or a year.

You're going to die from COVID.

It's increasing COVID deaths.

I mean, either way you look at it, it's stunning because you either believe me or you believe the detractor.

you know, from the drug company, the guy who's kind of debunking me.

But either way, like, why would you take these vaccines?

There's just no,

there's no benefit.

Right.

And

then the other thing, we talked to, we had this Twitter debate with

where Dr.

Gu,

I'm blanking on his first name,

but he's famous.

He's got 500,000 followers on Twitter.

And

Eugene Gu.

And Dr.

Gu is saying, well, I only trust the large, randomized trials, and the large randomized trials didn't show any death.

And I said, that's interesting.

And so, you know, can we have a debate on that?

And so he joined the room.

And then he- Let's pause there.

Let's pause there and tease that and go back because I want to pick up where you left off there with that debate.

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I mean, he has put serious cash on the table trying to get debates on this vaccine data.

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We are the Steve Day Show filling in here talking today with Steve Kirsch about why we need to stop the shots.

And Steve has attempted to engage the other side of the argument, told us about one exchange you had, I think as recent as last night in a debate.

Now, another one that you got into on Twitter, Steve, pick up where you left off from there.

Yeah, so

Eugene Gu, Dr.

Eugene Goo,

excuse me,

Dr.

Eugene Gu basically went on Twitter and said, look, you know, I only, I'm a doctor.

I only trust these large-scale trials, and that's what guides me in my practice.

And I said, so, you know, so that's, that's really interesting that he just ignores the anecdotes.

And so I wanted to press him on that point and then ask him, well, what do you think is causing all these death reports in Veris?

We never got to that.

We just spent over an hour just talking about anecdotes.

And so anecdotes

means, oh, you know,

it's

a small number

of events,

of evidence.

And so I asked him, I said, look, if you gave the shot to 20 of your patients and 10 of them died within a week after the shot from cardiac arrest, what would you do?

Would you say, oh, that's, I'll just keep doing it because the randomized trial, the large randomized trials say they're safe and effective, or do you believe what's in front of your own eyes?

And he basically said, well, I would pause

at that point and I would check with my peers and see if they were

seeing the same thing and would not move forward until I was confident that there was nothing wrong.

And so what's interesting is that what they say in public about, well, they only view these large-scale clinical trials and they dismiss all anecdotes.

Once you ask them a kind of a, hey, you know, in your clinical practice, what would you do if you saw that this is anecdotal data?

It's anecdotes.

What's in front of you?

It's only 20 patients.

Only 10 of them died, and they all died within a week.

And

he basically said he would change his clinical practice based on

10 patients dying.

I mean, so what was stunning is that what they say in public about, well, we only trust the large-scale trials and it must be safe, and we don't pay any attention at all to anecdotes.

When you actually get down to it and you ask them the critical question, which is, okay, so what happens in your practice?

It's like you get a completely different answer.

He's basically, he's guiding what he does in his clinical practice based on anecdotes because those anecdotes overrode these large-scale clinical trials.

Now, this is stunning because it says, hey, if I can give you some compelling anecdotes, then that overrides it.

And so that then shifts the discussion because it's really hard to get some of these studies like when...

Right.

They largely control who does and gets these kinds of studies.

Yeah, the system does.

The very system overlooking this.

I'm up against a hard break here in two and a half minutes, but what you just described and what you caught him in was a shell game.

So we create this VARES system as an offset for indemnifying these vaccine manufacturers 30 years ago.

And then when we reach

an unprecedented critical mass with these COVID jabs, that's all anecdotal data that we can't actually act on.

And so therefore, we don't have a large critical random controlled trial, I should say.

But they decide who does those RCTs,

but they don't respond to the anecdotal data no matter how much it escalates or climbs within VARES.

That's a shell game, Steve.

There's no critical mass.

There's no oversight there at all.

You know, it's heads, I win, tails, you lose kind of stuff.

It is.

But, you know, the thing is that you have to continue the conversation because then you have an admission that he does pay attention to anecdotal data in just 20 patients.

It changes his practice.

And once you do that, then we can get into a discussion where we can bring in a whole lot more evidence that he just admitted he will pay attention to.

But he dropped off.

He dropped off the discussion before we could get a chance to get there.

All right.

When we come back, Steve, I want to take you to my home state of Iowa where I live, where we were one of the freest state, maybe the freest state in the Union during the lockdowns.

Yet we are still promoting these jabs despite some troubling data that I've unearthed that I want to share with you and our audience to get your reaction to, because I'm guessing it's not atypical of what you are seeing nationwide.

And then there was this Zogby poll on vaccine injury.

We'll talk about that too when we come back on the Cornerback program.

All right, back here on the Glenn Beck Radio program.

We are the Steve Day Show filling in.

We are with Steve Kirsch.

Get his sub stack.

Steve Kirsch, K-I-R-S-C-H, stevekirsch.substack.com.

That's where he went after he got banished everywhere.

Now, Twitter just brought him back.

You can get a link there, by the way, to a piece he wrote as early as May of 21 on whether or not you should get vaccinated vaccinated for trial site, looking at some of the early data.

And I want to look at some of the data that we have going on right now, Steve.

So here in Iowa where I live, we have a fairly large and significant banking and insurance financial sector here.

And a CEO that works in that sector, I know, I had him run some numbers for me.

And he looked at the excess deaths numbers for Iowa.

And what he found is that here through October in 2022, we were on pace to outdo the total excess deaths throughout the prior three years before COVID, 2017 to 2019.

And

of course, when you bring up these kinds of numbers, these numbers exist

almost everywhere in the world.

When you look at mortality numbers, all cause excess deaths compared to where they were pre-COVID.

They are still too high despite the existence of these vaccines.

And just like what you ran into, they'll usually come back with, well, that's long COVID.

The problem here is in the state state of iowa only once in the last 290 days have we reached double figures in daily covet deaths that was one time july 10th in the last 290 days so how do you explain that covet deaths are still extremely low while all excess deaths in iowa are still way too high and higher than they were trending in the three prior years to covet i'm trying to raise this question with our governor, Kim Reynolds.

She did a fantastic job governing our state during COVID.

We might have been the freest state in the union.

We were one of the few states that had no stay-at-home orders.

We were the first state to bring back high school sports, et cetera.

But we're still running commercials with our Department of Health here, telling pregnant women if they get this jab, they can pass on the antibodies to their babies.

And yet we have this data that shows that excess deaths are still higher than they were pre-COVID, despite the fact COVID deaths are anemically low.

What other possible explanation, other than perhaps a lag in early detection because lockdowns got rid of everything that was elective

in terms of medical nature?

Fine.

But there has to be some admission here.

There's no other factor here that would contribute to something like that, is there, Steve?

Not that I'm aware of, Steve.

Certainly, nobody has brought that up as to

what could be the cause if it's not the vaccine.

I mean,

you're looking for something basically that has, it's got to be injected into people because we're seeing causes of death that are all over the map.

And if it was something that you ate or something that you breathed or something external, it's typically it's going to be a single

type of death, right?

So if there's poison gas, you're going to die because you breathed in the poison gas.

If the water is poisoned, everyone's gonna die because they drank the poison water.

But if you can inject something internally, you can and create blood clots all over your body, you can create a whole variety of symptoms.

So we're looking for something, so we have to narrow it down.

Let's narrow it down, right?

We're looking for something that is

injected.

It has to be novel because we've never seen anything like this before.

And it has to be in massive numbers of people because we're seeing massive rises in all-cause mortality.

So what's something that's novel, injected, and

done in mass numbers?

I mean, I can only, you know, I'm trying to make the list here, but I only come up with

one thing.

Back in August, Steve, Zogby came out with a poll that showed, first and foremost, far more Americans knew someone who had been vaccine injured from this COVID vaccine that had died of COVID.

It also showed 14.8% of all adults answered in the affirmative when asked, quote, were you diagnosed by a medical practitioner with a new medical condition within a matter of weeks to several months after getting vaccinated?

14.8%.

But here's even more disturbing numbers.

Among those 18 to 29, Steve,

30% reported that.

Among those 30 to 49, 23%

reported that.

How do we explain that?

By anything other than what's the obvious explanation.

What did the governor say?

It's like, I mean, look, you know, science is all about looking at the evidence in front of you and looking at the possible hypotheses.

And the CDC's hypothesis is the vaccine is safe and effective.

And our hypothesis is that it's not effective at all.

In fact, it's making things worse and it's killing people because it's not safe.

Now, I have spent

over a year.

I started doing this.

I started going public with this May 25th of 2021.

Okay,

so it's now a year and a half later.

And I have yet to uncover any evidence that is consistent with the safe and effective narrative when you look at it closely.

But I've looked at very closely at

lots of pieces of evidence, and they all go into the it's not safe or effective and should be stopped immediately bucket.

Now,

I would

so right now I'm preparing a list of just 20 questions.

And so I'm going to ask these people, hey, if you disagree with me, instead of answering the 125 questions that I posted on my website, well, let's just narrow it down to 20 questions.

And I've got, you know,

I'm up to 18 now.

I don't think I have to add another two.

But, you know,

it's like you can't explain these.

I mean, it's, and some of these are very, very simple.

So, for example, there's this guy named

John Campbell, and he's got, I think it's like 5 million followers on YouTube.

And he was pro-vaccine.

when he first started doing this YouTube channel.

And so over time, this guy has gone from a, you should go get the vaccine, it's safe and effective, to he just posted a video and he couldn't even post it to YouTube.

He posted it on Rumble

because YouTube would take it down.

He basically called for a halt to the vaccine and he couldn't call for a halt.

on YouTube.

He had to switch platforms to a platform which was uncensored.

So this guy is followed by 5 million people.

He explains

all the medical jargon to people in plain English.

That's why he's so popular.

He does a fantastic job of that.

But I never followed him because he wasn't interpreting the data correctly.

And it's like, you know, I don't need more narrative.

But

what happened is he kept following the data and following the data and following the data.

And he's like, well,

this shouldn't shouldn't be like this.

And he's like,

you could see him going from bluepill, which means you believe the narrative and you believe everything the government is telling you.

And the whole thing is documented.

on YouTube, where he's basically just praising the narrative, and now he's going completely against the narrative.

That is stunning, okay?

Because this guy is jeopardizing his his income stream.

He has a huge income stream on YouTube.

I mean, it is, it's got to be enormous.

And this guy is basically, you know, you can't call him a grifter.

He is going from making, I don't know, he must be making millions of dollars on YouTube to essentially going to zero income.

because YouTube will probably ban him because they don't like people who tell the truth.

So this guy is completely, I mean, hats off to him.

He is risking his entire income stream to tell people the truth.

Now, he's not the only one.

Asim Malhatra,

super highly respected.

He is on the effectively the Today Show in the UK.

They boot him off the show because

he was telling people the vaccines are safe and effective and you should be vaccinated.

Now he's telling people, I made a mistake.

My dad died.

I looked into it.

And

when you look at the data,

there's no question as to what's going on here.

The data

is very clear that

these vaccines are the most dangerous intervention.

that we've ever had, the most dangerous healthcare intervention that we have had

in our history.

And so he's telling people, we have to stop the shots now, exactly the same thing that John Campbell is telling people.

And so my question is, hey, you've got all of these people who were highly respected.

And suddenly now they're saying these vaccines are unsafe.

So we should basically not respect them because they changed their views when they looked at the data.

And the other question you have to ask yourself is, how many people went from essentially red pill, which means you think the vaccines are unsafe, to being a promoter of the vaccine when they looked more carefully at the data?

It doesn't seem to go the other way.

Yes.

It doesn't seem to go to the other way.

Correct.

I can't even think of a non-famous person who went the other way.

That's an important.

But the fact that, I mean, it's like so obvious to people at this point.

We don't have to talk about about

T cells.

We don't have to talk about mRNA.

All we have to do is talk about, well, why are so many people?

Like, I mean, the UCS, at UCSF, I talked to a nurse who used to work at UCSF.

She's very well connected.

I got about a minute.

She was.

Okay, she was one of the top nurses at UCSF.

She said, nobody at UCSF is getting the jabs anymore.

They all realize that they've been had.

And I talked talked to Seem Mohatra.

I did an interview with him.

He said on the on the video interview that there are no doc no cardiologists in the UK are getting the jab.

I mean look you've got no doctors at UCSF getting the jab.

You have no cardiologists in the UK getting the jab.

Like

this is not a few misinformation spreaders.

This is every cardiologist in the UK.

I mean there maybe they're one or two, but this is all the doctors and nurses at UCSF.

I mean, like, what more do you need,

folks?

I mean, I don't know.

I mean, what's it going to take to change people's minds?

Let's talk about that when we come back.

A new term was introduced into the lexicon this year.

Died suddenly.

It's also the topic and the title of a documentary that Steve was a part of that's heading towards 15 million views on Rumble, despite the fact it has largely been censored.

We'll discuss that next.

The Glen Beck program.

Let's conclude our conversation this morning with Steve Kirsch.

Steve, I've got about four minutes here on the Glenn Beck radio program.

The term died suddenly became part of the American lexicon this year.

Sort of a catch-all phrase to explain the inexplicable because we don't want to actually acknowledge the explanation for it.

You're part of a documentary that was released just about a month or so ago that is approaching 15 million views on Rumble.

That's got to be one of that platform's most viewed entities ever.

Of course, it's being censored everywhere despite that amount of traffic.

It's called Died Suddenly.

Tell us about it.

Well,

you know, it highlights

this observation, which I think was maybe first disclosed on the Stu Peters show.

And then I picked it up and started writing about it, which is that embalmers were seeing these

long blood clots that they could pull out, you know, they could pull out a two foot long or three-foot-long blood clot out of a body, and the blood clot was intact when they pulled it out.

And they have never seen anything like that before in their history.

And

one of the embalmers talks about he went to a conference of embalmers with 100 embalmers in the room and asked, Is anybody else seeing this?

And everybody raised their hand.

And so

this is just, you know, completely stunning

that

these people are being seen, this is happening across the country, and it's being silenced.

And the only possible cause for these clots is this novel injection.

And it only started appearing after the injections rolled out.

But what's stunning is I did a death survey.

And the death survey, I asked people, hey, do you know anyone who died from 2020

to present for any cause whatsoever?

It turns out that died suddenly

is the number one symptom of death for anyone under 65

who died

in 2021 or 2022.

And for the unvexed, it doesn't even register.

But for the vaxed, it's the top cause.

I mean, how are they going to explain that?

Steve, Steve, you have done incredible work.

Remind our audience how they can continue to follow the work that you're doing.

Sure.

It's stevekirsch.substack.com.

And I've been writing articles since October.

So a little bit more than a year from now.

I probably have about a thousand articles on the site.

And you don't have to read all 1,000,

but there's some great stuff there.

God bless you, brother.

Thank you for joining us this morning.

And hopefully we highlighted your work to more people because it deserves to be seen.

Thank you very much.

All right, take care.

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Welcome to our final hour here on the Glenbeck Radio Program.

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With Todd Erzen and Aaron McIntyre, we will resume our holiday festivities after this program, but we decided to come in from vacation because of the importance of this moment and the magnitude of this platform.

And we started off these first two hours

talking about truth.

The first hour we looked at

we have to accept the truth.

We lack political agency in this country.

We don't have political representation.

The idea of some long-term takeover of the Republican Party, I heard it when I started doing this in 2002.

We were talking about conservatives doing it.

A decade later, it was the Tea Party was going to do it.

Now the MAGA is going to do it.

It will not be done, or at least not in terms of being done in time to save whatever is left of this country.

So we have to look at a different form of activism that is not corporate in nature, but individual and local.

This last hour, we looked at the truth of the damage of these shots and why we need to stop them.

As Steve Kirsch joined us, I figured, you know what?

If we're at the place now that Ben Shapiro is going to bring Robert Malone on his show, then

it's time to bring in a new level of radical, a whole new layer of radical.

And so we took a crowbar to the Overton window by bringing the much banned and censored Steve Kirsch on the program.

Why?

Because he had the audacity to bet $1 million of his own money that you couldn't beat him in a debate about the danger of the jabs.

And they couldn't beat him in a debate, so they just banned and shunned him.

So now with these truths acknowledged,

it is time for action, time for accountability.

And who better better to have that conversation with than our good friend and our prophet of woe and lamentation, as well as our colleague here at Blaze TV, the one and only Daniel Horowitz?

It is good to have you with me and us, my friend.

How are you?

Hey, Happy New Year.

Been way too long.

It has been.

It has been way too long.

And in a little over six weeks,

You and I will release a book that we spent much of 2021 working on.

Pre-sales are available right now.

It is called Rise of the Fourth Reich, Confronting COVID Fascism with a New Nuremberg Trial so that this never happens again.

Once more, it's called Rise of the Fourth Reich.

I remember when I suggested this title to our publisher,

they thought it was way over the top.

And I said, hey, just read the opening statement of the manuscript because we fashioned it after a Nuremberg trial.

We don't have chapters.

We have a witness list.

We have an opening statement, a closing statement.

And I said, hey, just read the opening statement.

And if you think that the title is still too provocative, we'll come up with something else.

They read the opening statement and came back and said, I think maybe we should title this book that our ancestors shot red coats for less than this.

You can read that opening statement right now at trialsandexecution.com.

You can read it for free right now there at trialsandexecution.com.

But Daniel,

you've heard me say many times, we are not a nation of laws and we never have been.

We are a nation of political will and we always will be.

I saw you talking this morning about whether politics truly flows downstream from culture.

And you said, looking at what the left does, I don't believe that's the case.

See, I think we say that on the right because for us it is true.

We have to literally terraform culture to get any agency politically at all.

Like we have to make it so simple and easy to get them to do the stuff they should have done five or 10 years ago now.

All right.

That's what we have to do on the right.

Now on the left, power is where power goes.

They just act on what they want and the culture follows.

We do have one Republican that behaves this way, the guy in Florida, Ron DeSantis.

He just exerts power and has changed the culture in Florida as a result.

But

we don't have the agency to do that.

And that is where I wonder if the real problem with a true Nuremberg-like trial and tribunal happening again because of what was done here with COVID isn't so much the lack of will within the political class, but within the everyman class.

Daniel, less than 15% of American adults didn't take any of this gene juice at all.

Less than 15%.

You know as well as I do from working in primaries for how many years, the hardest thing is to convince a guy that he voted for the same rhino for many years, that he suddenly sucks and shouldn't do it again.

No one wants to admit they've been hoodwinked.

No one wants to admit they've been had.

When your buddy tells you your girlfriend is cheating on you, you don't get mad at the girlfriend.

You get mad at the buddy who told you because you realized you got played for a fool, right?

Is there the will in the larger population to truly come to grips with what they allowed to inject and be injected into their bodies?

Or are we more inclined as a species to say, I know it was a mistake.

I'm not getting them again.

We're never doing this again.

Let's just all move on and forget this ever happened.

Well, Steve, I don't know the answer to that, but I don't want to find out.

And that means that we got to do it now.

It's that narrow window where on the one hand,

I think we have the strongest opposition in society that we've ever had to COVID fascism.

But on the other hand, if you let this go on past this year's upcoming legislative sessions and all these supposed red states, then it really truly will be forgotten while they are not retreating, but they're reloading to the next versions of biomedical surveillance, tyranny, experimentation, RSV shot, many more mRNA technologies, things we can't even imagine, the transhumanism.

Now is the time to catch that little bit of lightning in the bottle while the stuff is kind of being repudiated, at least laughed at.

Yeah, this is stupid.

We're done with this.

Now is the time.

It's the only time we have to hope for to plow the ground over this fourth Reich biomedical tyranny and salt the ground over it you know you talk about the fact that culture is downstream from politics and i really think i really think that's what it is if you think about how the left did this did they create an entire culture making it cool to wear a chinese burqa diaper on your face for 10 years no they built that in a matter of a week or two i mean they're just this is what we're doing you're you're killing people if you don't do it done

made it they made it a law.

They had the political will.

They made it a law.

So that drove the culture.

It made it that this is what you do.

And you look like you're out of place if you don't do it.

So something so illogical, immoral, illegal, and inhumane, insane.

I mean, IBB Tip is out with a poll today that thankfully a majority of people are no longer onto this, but they asked, masking under five, children under five, and this is two and a half years into this, after it's been repudiated as all pain and no gain.

Is it good or bad?

And a majority of Democrats and a third of Independents answered it's good.

So that's the power of just not debating, not owning the other side with tweets, but doing.

And what I'm warning people is, and what we have at the end of our book is a list of about 20 different ideas that are all very achievable in about 50% of the states right now.

Now, not that the Republicans are worth anything, but they are more prone to pressure from their constituents than Democrats are.

Now is the time to make demands that this can never happen again.

And part of that is not just responding like we're always doing.

We're playing catch-up a year or two later.

So, you know, when it's a genocidal level, like Steve Kirsch was talking about, four, 500,000 deaths just in the U.S., just as its opening act.

And by the way, over the Christmas break, so many new papers have come out showing that this likely destroys your immune system permanently.

So, who knows what's going to happen here on out?

The reproductive systems and the steep declines in birth rates we've seen in highly vaccinated countries and everything else.

Yes.

Things like that.

What happens to your long-term immunity to all sorts of respiratory viruses?

But the point is that

it's not enough to be, oh, I oppose mandates.

No, no, no, no, no.

We are well beyond that.

What was done?

It was malignant.

It was malvalent.

It was premeditated.

And you know how we know that, Steve?

Because they're doing it now.

It's not like, well, did they know it at the time?

They know it now and they've known it for months and they're doing it anyway.

They're giving it a promotion.

They're partnering with them to produce RSV shots with the same technology, the same immunobridging, measuring antibody levels, which now we know are harmful antibodies.

This is not going away.

They're not retreating.

They are reloading.

They're on to the next thing.

And the biggest obstacle we have is that apathy where you have these GOP leaders and these state legislatures, these governors.

Yeah, we're kind of done with that.

No, you're not.

No, you're not at all.

First of all, they are still forcibly masking rape victims in most

medical settings, hospitals, doctors' offices in almost every state.

That needs to be done away with.

Medical schools, law schools, they're still requiring the death shots.

And Steve, I just want to say something.

You know, no one has ever been forced to get an abortion.

No one's ever been tricked, I mean, at least not in the modern era, into thinking that an abortion is somehow, you know, some sort of booster of your immune system, right?

Everyone kind of knows to varying degrees what you're doing.

You know, they might not visually conjure up the full graphic nature of it, but they know you're terminating the pregnancy at a minimum.

So, you know, why should we get involved, Steve?

You know, it's not a mandate.

You know, you can do what you want.

But no, obviously we're pro-life.

We don't believe in death.

We don't believe in murder.

And you don't have the state promoting this.

And you downright use the tool of the state and the governments and the areas that you control to ban it and to push back against it.

This is no different, but times 10.

There is no enlightened consent.

And this is what Nuremberg was about.

It's not just the fact that you can't mandate dangerous things on a people, but even the fact that people like myself with young kids, we can't find normal pediatricians that even understand what the heck is going on.

What's in these shots?

What's in the future ones?

What's in the ones that have already been given?

There is no enlightened consent.

These mRNA shots need to be banned in the red states.

Banned.

Banned now, banned permanently.

You know, until we know what the hell is going on to paraphrase Donald Trump on immigration.

It is not enough to be behind.

And we need to look ahead.

They're foisting the RSV shots on us next year.

Okay, we need to look ahead and, for once, preemptively bend what they plan to do rather than play catch up.

And you know what?

The culture will follow in reverse.

And just like you see with Ron DeSantis, guess what?

Now it's cool to be against CDC.

Publix, one of the biggest employers in the state of Florida, when CDC said give the shots to kids, Florida said we recommend against them, Publix decided to side with Florida and did not administer the shots.

That is how you change culture through politics.

You just do.

This is the law.

This is what we're doing.

This is it.

Now is our time.

Now is our moment.

We'll never get this again.

Speaking of Florida, They are getting set to convene a grand jury looking into these jabs.

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Daniel Horowitz is here with us, our colleague here at Blaze TV.

Him and I are collaborating on a new book that will be released in February, about six weeks from now, Rise of the Fourth Reich, Confronting COVID Fascism with a New Nuremberg Trial, so that this never happens again.

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One of the things that you and I were discussing last or earlier this fall, Daniel,

is if we could get nowhere with Republicans in Congress after this election to truly delve into this, why don't we get GOP governors like Ron DeSantis to do it?

Lo and behold, he announced last week that that's exactly what's going to occur.

The Supreme Court of Florida has convened a grand jury to look into

the allegedly false and dangerous claims made by COVID jab manufacturers Pfizer and Moderna.

As far as I know, this is something unprecedented in recent American history.

What kind of potential do you think this enterprise has?

Did we lose Daniel?

Looks like he's still there, but I'll redial him.

All right, let's try that again.

Todd, I'll ask you that question.

What kind of potential do you think a grand jury proceeding from the state of Florida has?

For example, you just got done rewatching the movie JFK from Our Youth.

That was a local

New Orleans DA

grand jury investigation, right?

And much of what it uncovered about the JFK assassination, for example, that Clay Shaw was a CIA operative, that Lee Harvey Oswald was an asset of Clay Shaw as his handler within the CIA.

Those are things now the National Archives are now affirming.

Those things are actually true, even though when Stone made these claims in his movie 30 years ago, it was panned.

And of course, when the New Orleans DA made them in the 60s, that was panned back then, too.

Going through that entire movie, and it's the first time I had seen it since being the notorious show anti-vaxxer now before COVID, but it's constantly Jim,

Kevin Costner's character, trying to DH.

Jim Garrison, wasn't that his name?

Yeah.

Trying to even convince the people who worked for him and respected him.

What are you prepared to believe?

To go where you started, Steve?

Which Overton windows are you prepared to smash?

That's it right there.

If they are willing to believe that total depravity will go to this fourth Reich status, it's limitless.

But that's the game.

They have got to smash that window.

It will will have to uncover something, right?

I mean,

there's too much data and evidence out there.

There's no way it won't uncover anything.

There's no way that it won't be nothing to see here at the end.

Well, now we're in Warren Commission territory.

Did Leah Harvey Oswald, will he, do it alone, or was he just a patsy?

Is that something?

Right.

But

when you also consider that the state of Florida's Department of Health

is already, I think it remains to this point here.

What is today, December 29th?

I still think it's the only health department in America that has advocated any form of restrictions on the distribution of COVID jabs.

I think it's the only one in the country.

So with that as the backdrop set,

at the very least, I have to think it'll come up with evidence to confirm that conclusion.

To me, I think that's our floor.

I think we're starting with that.

And then the question is, what's the ceiling?

How How much, how far down the rabbit hole from there are they willing it's not just the evidence, but what must, what must that evidence lead to in terms of action?

Because we just got done talking to Steve Kirsch.

He's been eliminated.

He's been called a quack, a crazy.

We just had him on the show for an hour.

That guy's just asking questions.

Questions he started asking after I got the jabs.

And the only reason that guy's threatening is not because the questions are so a lot of people have asked the questions.

He's actually an elite.

He's a man with means.

He was willing to act.

He's a multi-millionaire tuck on.

He was willing to act.

He was willing to bring consequences.

And oh, by the way, he was a guy who actually took the jab.

We can have all kinds of crazies like me who never did it, Steve, or you.

But the person who took the jab and reforms themselves and changed.

We can't have that religion, Steve.

That's why the argument that some of the people in our industry didn't see this until recently, because they were blinded by what's called credentialism.

I don't buy that argument.

Because from the the very beginning, of going back to the origins of lockdowns, I have been pointing out on this show: scientists from Stanford, Harvard, Yale, Oxford, the elite of the elite universities have been calling BS on all of this from the very beginning.

Yes.

There have been plenty of credentialed people willing to practice some form of dissidence against this, resistance against this.

We'll see if we can reconnect with Daniel when we come back.

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Daniel Horowitz back here with us.

Good to have you back with us, my friend.

I want to get your take now on the grand jury that the state of Florida just announced as requested by Governor DeSantis.

And that request was

honored by the state Supreme Court.

Todd and I were talking when we were getting your issues figured out a minute ago that given the state's current level of scrutiny, I believe Florida remains the only state in the country right now whose Department of Health has issued any form of restrictions on these jabs at all, that evidence confirming that conclusion is probably the floor of what this grand jury comes back with.

That's probably the floor.

The question is, Daniel, what's the ceiling?

How far down the rabbit hole do you think they're willing to go?

I think they're willing to pretty much uncover everything.

Remember, this is something we're not going to get at a federal level because Republicans have made it very clear they will not go after vaccine injury because they treat the epithet of anti-vax, even though this is not a vaccine, as like racism, that's a new racism.

So they won't touch it.

So Florida is really the highest level venue we have to air this publicly.

The scope of injury, but I think the ceiling really is going to be

what did they know and when did they know it and who knew it.

This is really the key here because we already have enough information from the court release documents of Pfizer and the FDA and different FOIAs.

They knew about the problems not just January 2021 when this was released, but August 2020 during the clinical trials.

And this stuff they don't even need to uncover, but it's a matter of calling in the witnesses, getting it documented, and the the governor driving the narrative.

That will push the Overton window further and make it that governors like Kim Reynolds in Iowa, like Craig Abbott in Texas, have to begin dealing with this.

And then, you know, once that snowballs, that's a different country.

I've always said, if we had 25 Ron DeSantises, we'd have a different country.

Because either it would serve as a check and balance against the rest of the country and the federal government, or you would have a massive swath of the country to live in that is just dramatically different.

And when it comes to the COVID shots, I think what they're going for is not just COVID.

It's to uncover the fraud of the biomedical state that's existed for far too long in medicine

and where it's headed.

So this is not just about COVID, even though people don't care about COVID and think it's over with, but how long have we been lied to about life and death decisions in hospitals in terms of therapeutics, in terms of treatments,

and pharmaceuticals?

Because I do know they also plan on obviously investing some research into cancer, looking into

what's behind that, what have we been spending our money on with that, who are we funding,

who's been grifting the last 50 years.

So to me, the ceiling is much bigger than COVID.

It's the entire medical profession itself.

That brings me to the broader question and the last thing I wanted to ask you about today.

We got into this in the first hour.

And, you know, when you talk about the Glenn Beck audience, I don't know of another audience in alternative media, certainly not conservative media, that is more generous, more engaged, more committed to action than this one is.

That all being said, though, You know,

when I did my first news talk show, filling in for the great Jan Michelson in August of 2002 on News Radio 1040 WHO.

We were talking about it's time for conservatives to finally take over the Republican Party.

A decade later with the Tea Party, it's time for the Tea Party to take over the Republican Party.

Now it's time for the MAGAs to take over that.

We've done this.

We do this every decade.

It gets rebranded.

It's the conservative grassroots.

It's the Tea Party.

It's the MAGAs.

But we do this

time warp again and nothing ever comes of it because I don't think anything ever can.

But the reality is, 20 years into this business, I'm talking about things, Daniel, I would have never imagined I'd be talking about.

At the very least, we're at the two-minute warning here of this game called Western Civilization.

Now, we can debate within two minutes.

Are we at the last second?

Is there time for a two-minute drill?

Is it too early for a Hail Mary pass?

But at the very least, we're at a two-minute warning here for our way of life.

We don't have some long-term plan of seating and replacing one of the duopolies political parties.

And so, on an individual and state level, if your governor's not Ron DeSantis, and for most of the people listening right now, it's not.

So, you just can't get up in the morning and assume that your vote is going to count, even if they counted it.

So, for the rest of us, on a local individual level,

a new level of activism and engagement and pestering is going to be required here.

Give us some encouragement and suggestions along those lines.

Sure.

It's a matter of moving our biggest obsessive focus from elections to actually

policy changes.

And the two are not synonymous.

And the policy changes drive the culture.

The way the left agitated is that they made it clear, they would start out with a 5% issue.

They have 5% of the people behind that.

How do you think drag story, drag queen story hour became a thing?

Where did that come from?

Where did the bathroom stuff come from?

In a matter of a year, they made this a fight in all 3,000 counties.

Okay?

They take an issue that's unpopular.

Well, our issues right now, most of them are actually popular and have a majority of support.

If they didn't two years ago, they do have it now.

And certainly in the areas we're talking about, like your home state of Iowa,

you make it clear that the culture of this county is the inverse of San Francisco and what the Rainbow GI did in the incipient stages of their agenda agenda, those places, and then eventually expanded upon that.

This is what is done here.

This is what is not done.

And every Republican that's elected, from school board, county council, county executive, state legislator, they are treated with circumspect.

We are not Republicans.

We are the rhinos.

That's what we need to understand.

I mean, I don't consider myself a Republican at all.

Now, You might not have ballot access readily available without the Republican Party in another state, but that's fine.

You could use use them the way they use us.

But the point is, it's not about but Biden, but the Democrats.

You're not going to change them.

It's about every second

you be that squeaky wheel.

This is what must be done in this school district.

Okay.

We are not having drag hour in this county library, which you'd be shocked at how many red counties have it.

And you need to be such a force at a local level.

And it doesn't take much.

A few dozen, you get a cell together in your neighborhood.

You have a division of labor based on the issues.

If you can write, you write.

If you could go and talk radio, you do that.

You put out a weekly newsletter saying who are the heroes and zeros in the legislature?

What are the important issues?

I'm going to publish at the Blaze in the New Year a list of about 50 or so ideas that need to be implemented in every state legislature this year, and you bang away at it.

The problem with a lot of these places is there's zero focus.

There is zero focus on the fact that Republicans are a bunch of leftists in deep red states.

You know, people think, oh, we have that covered already.

Let's focus on Biden.

You know, we have a 30 to 2 majority in the Wyoming state senate.

Oh, it's taking care of.

But no, you don't.

Not unless you breathe down their next.

They're a bunch of leftists.

They're a bunch of phonies.

And that's where it has to be.

It has to be more local.

And to the extent you focus on elections, yes, focus on the upcoming gubernatorial election, not the Senate,

and not president.

If you're in a red state, if you're in a state like North Dakota, and you have Doug Berkham standing for reelection potentially, and this guy is a business partner of Bill Gates, and he's a total globalist, he needs to go.

And that's what we need to focus on.

You know, you got Kentucky, by the way, coming up in an odd year, next year.

There's a Democrat there.

You know who the lead Republican is?

The Attorney General who did nothing in his life before then but work for Mitch McConnell.

I mean,

there's an endless pipeline.

And like you said, we're not changing the party.

And Steve, here's one more thing.

One more thing.

And we're going to have no leverage without this.

We need to get petitions together in some way in these states to declare hundreds of thousands of registered Republicans, we will not vote for you in the primary or general election.

If you vote to redefine marriage, you vote for the omnibus bill at a federal level or similar things at a state level, you have to have red lines.

Until we are willing to stand or attempt to stand on godly values rather than be Republicans, we are on the plantation more than what we accuse black voters of doing for the Democrat Party.

And that's the reality.

They laugh at us because they know we will always be there for them in the general election.

And until you're

willing to shoot that hostage, we have zero leverage.

And just to confirm what you just said, why does Kevin McCarthy now suddenly sound like the Daniel Horowitz podcast?

He doesn't have 218 votes to be Speaker.

That's why.

No.

Doesn't have it.

That is why.

Yeah.

And Steve, why didn't he sound like that in September when they were originally passing the continuing resolution and actually mattered?

Because I was the only one focusing on that.

Okay.

Finally, we built a movement against the Omnibus.

It became poison.

And you know what?

Almost every House member voted against it.

It does make a difference.

There's one difference between Republicans and Democrats, one and one only,

that potentially, more often than with Democrats, they're scared, or at least you could influence what they're thinking at a given time.

You have your foot in the door.

But use it.

If you don't, then there's no purpose.

Essentially, the best way to get the Republican Party to work for you is to act as if it actually works for you.

You're not one with it.

That's not your identity.

It's not your family.

It's not your church.

It's not your movement.

It's just a vessel.

It's a vessel.

And if it steers in the direction that you want it to, great.

And if it doesn't, screw you.

That's essentially the best way.

Think of high school, guys.

Was it the nice guy who got the girl?

Or the guy that was a little bit more aloof, a little bit more difficult, mysterious?

That's kind of what Daniel's talking about.

Good stuff, my friend.

We'll see you in the new year.

All right.

Happy New Year.

Take care.

You bet.

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Let's get some final thoughts from the team here.

We've gone over a lot of ground today, Todd and Aaron.

What do you think?

Going back to watching JFK,

remember, there was enough common sense left apparently back in 1963

that just offing Kennedy

and letting people think at length about this Lee Harvey Oswald cat, that wasn't going to cut it.

And this is where the whole line, riddle, enigma, mystery comes in.

They had to just put that out there for a day.

And then they needed to off him with Jack Ruby.

And you had all this misdirection.

Is it FBI?

CAA, Is it the mob?

All that.

And it just became too much, and people short-circuited.

And that's what we're dealing with here again, but with a lot less common sense.

On the regular show, you hear me talk a lot about our addiction to comfort, and we just want to get back to normal.

And that's the real challenge here.

There is nothing new under the sun, as you said off air, Steve.

That's the real challenge on this because we have an abundance of evidence on this, and we have for a very long time, and we've put it forth on this show, and people have tried to bury it in as many ways as they can.

Do we want it or not?

Or do we just want the cheap elixir of comfort and distraction and untruth?

We must work to create a dynamic at the local level.

And I mean state, but like local, local level,

where

an elected official, whether that's a sheriff or school board member or county commissioner, sees you coming to a town hall or a hearing or a forum and they say,

How high do you want me to jump

you can only do that though you can only do that though there it just can't be one off it can't just be one of you has to be you have to work to create a group of you at the local level

that will be the constant drip drip drip drip drip in these people's ears to if they don't agree with you they dread you

they dread you because who are you more likely to run into at the grocery store your u.s senator the president of the United States, or a sheriff's deputy, or your local sheriff, or your local state representative.

It's always going to be the latter.

So where do you have the most opportunity to have influence?

It's always going to be at the local level.

That's a great place to end it.

Kind of takes us full circle to where we began this from.

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