Ep 158 | 'We'll F-ing Destroy You': Tara Reade PUNISHED for Exposing Biden | Tara Reade | The Glenn Beck Podcast

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She told a local newspaper that she had been sexually assaulted by her boss in 1993.

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Hi, Tara.

Hi.

I want to start with a question, and I don't mean it to be a hostile question in any way, shape, or form.

Okay.

You didn't come on when we asked you, and you went to Megan Kelly, which is great.

She's a good friend of mine and that was a great interview.

Your book came out two years ago, so you're not selling a book.

No.

Why are you here?

Why are you here?

What?

Well, I think it's important.

You know, there's been a lot of discussion about how divided we are as a country.

And I think, because I had a background as a Democrat, you know, for a long time,

I think this is a time for us to come together because this administration is worse than even what I imagined.

You know, when I came forward about Joe Biden, I gave myself solace thinking, okay, he's president, but maybe it will be okay.

Because, you know, I had the past of being a Democrat.

And here we are, 41-year highest inflation.

Half a million people are homeless.

We're on the brink of nuclear war.

And, you know,

when you first came out, though, you were still a Democrat.

Because if I'm I'm sorry.

So

decades pass every week, it seems.

But if I remember right,

you were not hostile to the Democrats.

And it didn't feel like you were really hostile to him.

You were hostile to being lied about, right?

So what has happened since then?

Because you don't sound like a Democrat now in what I'm reading.

Abuse of power is what i saw and experienced personally but also i think collectively i think our whole country is experiencing it and i feel badly because i dismiss some of the republican views and warnings and

i think that they're right um you saw someone very high profile much higher profile than me a veteran and a a person who served in congress chulse gabbard came out and left publicly the democratic party when i came forward i had left the democratic party that's true you know i that you know right in 20 in 2019 when i first came forward they called me a Russian agent.

I don't, I remember.

Yeah.

And that they basically, Biden used his machine.

He spent, according to FEC records, 2.2 million trying to silence my story alone.

I don't even know what he spent trying to silence the Hunter Biden laptop story, which now has been verified.

You know.

I also, I watched the January 6th hearing some of what's going on.

And you know, I have a law degree, Glenn.

I do.

And they're extending sentencing.

They're basically targeting Republicans as domestic terrorists, is what they're calling them, for thinking differently.

And, you know, granted, no one likes violence on January 6th, right?

Anybody who has broken the law deserves the appropriate punishment as prescribed by the law.

Right.

And they deserve due process.

And it bothers me that

there are people that are still waiting to be heard, that have been scooped up.

We're now going after guns ablazing, 87-year-old women for praying in front of an abortion clinic.

I mean, this is crazy.

I want lawbreakers to go to, and I don't care how they voted,

but this is getting scary.

It's getting to an authoritative state.

And who would have, you know, thought because of the way they talk, the wolf in sheep's clothing, right, the Democratic Party.

And I was part of that party for many, many years.

And I worked as an operative.

I worked for Leon Panetta.

I worked for a state senator.

And I can tell you that right now I don't recognize some of the people I see.

They're so desperate to cling to power and wealth that the corruption is

unbelievable.

I mean, I feel like my case, what happened when I worked for Biden, was awful.

But what's more awful is what's happening, like for instance, in Ukraine, this proxy war that the U.S.

is fighting against Russia, right?

Using Ukraine and NATO.

$67 billion

going to Ukraine when we have a half a million people that are homeless, 70,000 in Los Angeles.

I mean, what's going on?

And it bothers me

because, I mean,

I did a year's worth of research on the impeachment.

I enter everything that we do on let the chips fall where they may.

If it's our side, it's our side that's dirty.

I want it exposed.

And I went in and I honestly thought that there was something bad maybe that Trump was doing with Russia and everything else.

And I saw how it all tied back to Ukraine.

And why is it that nobody is asking?

$67

billion.

Where's the accounting?

That's the most corrupt country, and we have a wildly corrupt government right now, the world can be changed with $5 billion.

Right.

Exactly.

It's amazing how much money is going to this country.

And I think that at any time soon, this will be exposed as one of the biggest laundering

in the history.

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Joe Biden's son,

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I don't think that it was meant

when this country was founded for representatives of Congress to become multi-millionaires.

No.

You know, and that's what we're seeing.

So

to go back to your initial question, I've been listening to you.

I listened to Tucker Carlson now quite a bit.

I'm opening, you know, I started opening my mind because I started realizing, wait a second, the information I'm getting is very siphoned.

And we end up in these bubbles.

And I think it's really important.

You know, I may not agree with you on every single thing, but it doesn't mean we can't have a conversation like this and sort it out.

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I was just talking to Tulsi Gebber just the other day, and I said,

Um,

you know, there's a, there's a tendency right now, because conservatives are so desperate for anybody like saying a nice thing about you at all.

It's like, really?

And you have a tendency to go, they're coming to our side.

And I said to Tulsi,

I don't think you're necessarily coming to our side.

I don't think

that I think classical liberals

have always been for freedom of speech and the Bill of Rights.

I mean, that was the thing with Democrats for a long time.

These rights are important.

Now those have been shut out by the Democratic Party.

And

we have an opportunity to welcome people back into the fold of America,

not into the fold of conservative America, but of America that is the Bill of Rights and the Constitution and the rule of law.

Is that kind of where you are?

Exactly.

That's exactly where I am.

And I'm hoping that we get some sort of dialogue, but we need to expose the crimes.

And it takes, like, for instance, let's start with the Hunter Biden laptop or my, you know, what happened to me, how it was suppressed in the 2020 election, which I think the Biden campaign used its power, used big tech, right?

It just was discovered they paid how much, a million dollars regarding the COVID to try to make jokes.

And, you know, that's unconscionable.

These are our lives that they're playing with just to just to hold on to power, a little bit of power and money.

So I think it takes one member of Congress to open an investigation on Joe Biden.

I think it should be done.

I said that I would testify under oath and I would.

And I think there are other women that would come forward.

Now, there are women afraid to come forward because of what happened to me.

Oh, there were seven, there were seven other women, and you weren't the first, right?

And did it take others to step up to give you the courage, or was it seeing that they were being dismissed?

Well, in 1993, when it happened, right, I made a report to the Senate and about the sexual harassment.

And I was going to go further and talk about everything if I talked to someone, but they immediately shut it down.

And Evelyn Lieberman was Joe Biden's press secretary at the time.

And she, her, the person that worked under her came to me because he heard I had filed the report and he said,

Tara, we will effing destroy you.

Wow.

And I was in my 20s.

That was huge.

It was like, you know, when someone said that to me, so it scared me.

So then

my mother went on Larry King, the famous Larry King call, right, without telling me.

And I remember giving her such a hard time about that.

And I feel bad that I did, but she was trying to protect me.

But then I just decided to go on with my life.

And my life went on.

And then

around the time, it was Lucy Flores that really.

kind of prompted me.

Seeing her get torn up publicly, seeing her come forward.

She was a young politician.

And And by the way, she doesn't have a career anymore, right?

And my daughter was an adult at this time.

So it wasn't as difficult as when, you know, during when he was vice president.

And I decided, oh, there's the Me Too movement, there's Time's Up.

And I went to Times Up like a lamb to the slaughter, not knowing that three people in leadership at Times Up were already on Joe Biden's payroll.

And they didn't tell me.

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As you know, Time's Up was dismantled.

Anita Dunn had to step down because of the corruption with the Cuomo case and my case.

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Let me go back just for anybody, and I don't want to dwell on this, but just quickly, can you say what happened to you?

I went to work for Joe Biden as a staff assistant.

I was very excited.

I thought this was the beginning of my career, you know, and all of that.

Idealistic young 20-something in Washington.

Very dedicated to the American Party.

I had just interned with Leon Panetta.

I had worked on congressional race and a judge.

I was just very excited to work with Joe Biden.

You were a Mrs.

Smith, goes to Washington.

Yeah, right.

So I go there, and immediately there was some weirdness about, you know, I had been an actor and a model.

I was, you know, in my 20s.

So I was, you know.

Yeah, you attended Juilliard.

Not only do you have a law degree, but you also.

No, I didn't get accepted to Juilliard.

I went to school, though, but I did study classical theater.

Okay.

And I got accepted to Juilliard and couldn't go.

But

I loved acting and I loved all of that.

But then I was really struck by political science.

My mother had been a political activist.

And I had this opportunity to intern with Panetta and work on a congressional race.

And that's what led me to Biden.

I was hired at the interview.

Joe Biden had breezed through because it was an interview at his scheduler's desk, basically, out in kind of an area adjacent to his office.

So he was coming through.

He met me and said, oh, your name's Tara.

That's a good Irish name.

And then she piped in and said, oh, you know, she used to work for Leon Panetta.

And he said, oh, good guy.

And then he looked at me and smiled, you know, that smile.

And he said,

oh, you're hired.

And so I was, and then she looked at me and said, oh, I guess you're hired.

You know, he said, hire her.

So I thought, oh, well, this is how you get a job, DC.

I had no idea.

So it went from there when I was, you know, when he started wanting me to serve drinks at this event he was having.

And then a staff member actually argued and said that's not part of her job duties because he said he liked my legs.

And, you know, he was just kind of, he put his hands on me.

And I think people have seen enough videos

of Joe Biden and how he doesn't really, he just.

He's creepy.

Yeah, it's a certain vibe.

Like, you know, when you warmly hug or shake hands with someone, it's usually just warm and just friendly.

But with him, it had that edge to it because that's his vibe.

And

I was sent to give him a gym bag.

And then I described, you know, as you mentioned, Megan Kelly, what happened.

But he

happened very fast.

And he sexually assaulted me in.

And we were in public.

It was in a public hallway.

There was no one there at the time.

But

he didn't have fear.

He didn't have fear, as a matter of fact, when he left.

And one of the vivid memories I have is, you know, he started out saying, oh, you're fine, you're fine.

But then he was like, you're nothing.

You know, he got angry with me and he said, you're nothing.

And he shook his hand in my face, you know.

And then he turned around.

And then I was so stunned that he like took my shoulders and said, you're fine, you're fine.

And then turned around and walked away and never looked back.

And I'm just striding down, you know, the hallway.

What do you mean by you're nothing?

You're nothing.

I don't know, but it stuck with me.

It stuck with me.

And my vivid memory of sitting in on the stairs was it wasn't just the assault of what happened, of him doing what he did,

but it was knowing that my career was over.

I had said no and had pushed him away and his ego was hurt.

And that was that.

And it was that realization, even as young as I was, that that moment changed my life and it did.

And plus the, the just the way he did it and he was so cavalier he didn't like try to come back later apologize he just went on so

was it

I'm trying to figure out how to ask this question that's okay

is it was it power was it sex was it

attraction what what was

what did you feel from him

you know that's an interesting question

Actually, no one's really asked me that.

When I remember that moment, and this is years later, but it's still, you know, I still

vivid.

It's like he was blank, like cold.

He was quick and hostile.

It was like I was up against a wall.

He was doing what he wanted to do.

And then it was, you know, over.

And it wasn't,

I didn't feel like there was no flirtation, right?

There was no relationship.

There was no connection.

He didn't know who I was, really, other than I worked for him.

So there was no flirtation.

It was just

on you.

It was just, you know, he smiled at me.

He took the gym bag, and then he immediately had me up against the wall.

He was kissing me and doing whatever.

But what I, and his hands were underneath my clothes, it was all simultaneous, but there wasn't, I feel like it was, and I think I've described this part before, it's, it's almost like I was an object.

He wasn't interested in me personally, or

and I almost feel like I was at the wrong place at the wrong time,

you know.

Um, but it would have happened to anybody.

I don't know anybody, but like, I think he'd, you know, he had been

kind of touchy with me before, and he singled me out a few times.

But I think he saw an opportunity because usually he had people around him.

So, as you watch all of the videos

and

you see this

and he's always so folksy you know ah my mom my dad and scranton all this crap um scranton yes i know um

that's what he tries to appear and he always says the press always calls me lunchbox joe we've looked it up no press has ever called him lunchbox joe unless they're quoting him calling himself lunchbox joe um

so he has this impression of who he is or trying to present that of who he is.

Who is he really?

Do you think?

My opinion is he's a megalomaniac.

I think he's very insecure.

I think his insecurity amplifies.

And I think that's why the lack of boundaries with women or the

objectifying women,

because he can.

He's arrogant.

Look what he just said.

He said recently something about Putin can remain in power as long as he does.

Who is he to talk about another sovereign nations president that was elected that has a higher approval rating, by the way, than he does?

And well, this is coming from you, a Russian agent.

Yeah, I know.

But my point is, is that you see his arrogance, though, through.

I think

there's an interview, too, of him interviewing someone who exposed that was a lie about the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

And you see, you know, his just arrogance, the way he he goes at people.

He just

said to somebody during the hurricane visit, nobody Fs with Biden.

Oh, that's.

And what's interesting is that stuff didn't come out during the election cycle, did it?

No.

But that's the Joe Biden that, you know,

I knew.

So he's protecting his son.

And

I'm a recovering alcoholic.

So I know about drug use.

I know about alcoholism.

I know it's, you're sick.

You're really sick.

And

I know I'm also a dad of four.

I love my children.

I protect my children.

Of course.

But there comes a time where you're like,

I've tried everything I can.

You have to find your own bottom.

And apparently you haven't found it yet.

He seems to enable.

His son is sending sending him vile pornography.

I don't think his son's lifestyle surprises him at all.

His daughter, in what we now know is her diary, wrote about possible sexual...

And

I'm not accusing him of this at all.

But is there something here with father and son and family that is...

Is there something deeper going on here, do you think?

I think so.

I think it's a it's a level of they feel like they're above the law.

I think there's a level of

depravity.

And I'm not saying that with hubris.

I mean, when you look at the Clinton's track record and Biden, and they're all close,

there is.

It's shocking.

You know, the Epstein, they still haven't released the client list, of course, and they probably never will.

That is

so.

That is such a

that the people with power can cover up something that big and that important

as if we don't have a right to know who you really are.

So dangerous.

The way the press went after me, because that's actually after the Megan Kelly interview.

That's when they really came after me.

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Did they come after you to discredit or to destroy?

Both.

I think they were hoping I would shrivel up and just be quiet, but I got louder because it just, in my opinion, no one should abuse power like that.

And I tried to warn people, you know, I tried, and I felt really an obligation,

almost like public service, like to say, hey, look, this is what you're walking into and look at our country.

And I'm not, again,

it's not just because of personally what I suffered.

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I will say, too, that I mean, I don't know about the depraved part.

There seems to be,

you know,

I don't know if you know who James Lindsay is, but he used to be an atheist and a Democrat and progressive and everything else.

And then he saw what was happening.

And I was interviewing and I said, James, with what is happening right now, the way people are being destroyed, destroyed the country, when

a group of people tell you you're nothing, you'll never be anybody unless you're with me, that's evil.

And he said,

Glenn,

you know, you know me, I've not believed in good and evil.

He said, that's the only way I can describe there is an evil that is happening.

And not everybody is involved in that.

But the Republicans,

Mitch McConnell, dirty as hell, taking money from China.

There's both sides are doing that.

How do we,

what do we have to do?

How do, let me, I guess this way.

What

woke you?

What got you, somebody who I'm guessing

hated me, you know, in the day, no, you don't need to say it that fast, like, yeah.

But what got you to the point where you're like,

I have to give it a shot.

I have to try listening and seeing if I'm missing something.

How do we get there on both sides?

Well, I think listening to a variety of people, and right now we're pretty censored, so it's pretty difficult, right?

It's going to get more so.

And it is.

You're seeing people deplatformed, targeted, whatever, just like I was targeted.

And for your audience, what I mean by that is like, it's hard for me to get a job.

It's hard for me to function.

I lost my housing.

I lost everything coming forward.

Everything.

So I've been trying to, you know, come back from that.

But I will tell you that

I have

such compassion for you because,

you know, everybody always says, oh, they're only doing it because.

And they don't usually see the toll it takes on people.

And,

you know, I've done my homework on you and the toll has been

devastating on you.

Devastating.

I don't know how you're surviving, quite honestly.

They basically tried to put me in prison a year ago for felony perjury.

I was an expert witness for domestic violence victims.

And

the group of Democrats in Monterey County did an email and some trolls, obviously, that were hired by DNC, did an email campaign and a phone campaign to have the prosecutor's office open up all my expert testimony.

And so they tried to say I lied about my education, which I did not.

And so eventually there was no investigation.

Obviously, I wasn't convicted.

But the word got back to me that Biden wanted to see me arrested right after the inauguration publicly.

And that's what I heard.

Whether it's true or not.

That's exactly what

sources, whistleblowers have said that he said about Trump.

I want him in jail.

Right.

That's terrifying.

It's terrifying when you have no resources.

I mean, Trump has some resources, at least.

I do not.

And it put me, like, I had to get lawyers and I had to get myself out of something that shouldn't have even started just because of what you talked about, which was your original question, what got me here.

That process, the way I was vilified and

watching them do the Russiagate stuff, paying a million dollars for the steel dossier.

They paid that person a million dollars to try to basically

give him

he could verify it

see you know that's that prig that quig pro crow is not acceptable it's not right but especially coming from a federal agency that's that is really that's you're crossing a line into absolute authoritarianism abuse of power right and and getting back to your original question about you i've i've listened to you on and off i've listened to tucker carlson and i never had any animosity about other people that that have different views than me my best friends some of my close friends were Republicans back from the day when I was in my 20s.

And in law school, one of my very, very dear friends is

actually a Trump supporter and conservative Republican.

And

the divide that they're trying to portray on the media

or how close the U.S.

is to civil war is contrived.

So contrived that they're trying to force it.

And I think one of the things they're doing to force it is by taking it out on people that support Trump or like the January January 6th, you know, whatever, going after them in such a pointed way.

So

they are

when you don't,

you, a good place to start when you're looking for a truth or the truth is

if either side is saying, don't even talk to anybody about it.

Don't even listen to that.

Don't read that.

That's your first sign.

They're probably on the losing end.

And they are getting so desperate.

They are silencing people, but they are also

attacking people like you.

And there's a bunch of people

in a way.

And

I do not like Alex Jones.

I have reasons I don't like Alex Jones.

And what he did was despicable.

But a billion dollars, a billion, they're going after people January 6th, and they're making examples.

So other people, like you just said, I don't have the resources to fight this.

They remain silent.

So you're on this podcast.

I'm at home.

I want to stand up.

But I'm hearing what's happened to you, which is devastating.

What do you say to that person?

Well, I'd say that, you know, in your podcast, you also talked about recently about how truth sets you free.

And I was keeping secrets for a powerful man.

So when Megan Kelly gave me that opportunity, and now when you give me this opportunity now to speak my truth, that's freedom.

That's more important.

You know, money comes and goes.

But our soul and being able to freely express ourselves, you know, that's priceless.

And

it's not quantifiable.

I mean, it's, it's, so I, um, I appreciate people like you that are willing to listen to me, even though I was considered like a liberal Democrat in the past or whatever.

But you're

claimed to be communists, yeah, right, yeah.

And Tucker Carlson is doing the same thing.

If you watch his show, he has guests with all different kinds of views.

Um,

but look what's happening to Julian Assange, for instance.

And you may not agree with everything, or you may, um, but Julian Assange both.

I don't agree with necessarily some of the things or how he did some of the things,

but what's happening to him is,

I mean, it's Russia or Nazi stuff.

I mean,

Soviet

kind of stuff.

It's more,

it's a public execution happening in slow motion.

Talk about making an example of someone.

And anybody who's a journalist should be watching that and go, okay, there's freedom of press, there's freedom of speech.

Yeah.

Because this man's not even a U.S.

citizen.

He's Australian being extradited under the Espionage Act.

And they had a plot, which was revealed, right?

And it was legitimized to kill him in public.

I mean, it's,

I just feel like the Democratic Party has gotten too much power.

And I know there is corruption in the Republican Party, in both parties right now.

There's a difference.

But there's a difference.

And I call, you know, someone recently said predator class.

And I think that's what we're dealing with.

And going back to the depravity thing, because I don't want to like leave that kind of hanging, like people wondering what I mean.

When I went to DC as a young woman, I came from Hollywood and everyone knows what that's like, right?

And there were good and bad experiences that I had, you know, mostly positive when I was there, but I was shocked at how people that were in power and supposed to be helping us conducted themselves in private

when the cameras were turned off and the microphones were turned off.

And like an example of that that's been made public was like the waitress sandwich, right?

Christopher Dodd, Kennedy, and Biden was friends with them, you know,

doing what they did to this young woman who claimed it was an assault as well, went in and out of the press.

But it's like people to them, and you touched on this earlier, they're not people, they're just, they're dehumanized, they're objects.

So with me,

they know better.

They think they are better.

Yeah.

They're doing things to help the little people.

Well, and I think just kind of collecting their wealth.

Yeah.

Right.

And just enjoying the spoils of fortune, if you will.

I had

Massey from Connecticut, or from Kentucky, say to me once, he wasn't wearing his congressional pin.

We were going to Congress, and he wasn't wearing his congressional pin.

And he started putting it on.

And I said,

everybody just wears that all the time.

You don't wear that all the time?

He said,

it's the Lord of the Rings.

This is my precious.

And he said, if you wear it everywhere, you will start to believe you are different.

he said I've watched people do it I take it off and I wear it only when I'm in the capital

yeah it's pretty amazing pretty it is my precious that's fine yeah

when you said earlier you said

after the incident it changed you

can you tell me that

what the role of keeping the secret,

how that changed you?

It wasn't, I would imagine,

you kind of lost your innocence of Mr.

Smith, and you're like, what is this?

So you've kind of lost your belief in the country a bit or the system.

Yeah.

And you've lost your faith in this guy and that system, but then

you kept a secret because you thought, tell me the corrosive nature of

how did that affect you over 20 years?

I think deeply and almost spiritually, because you're not,

you're not living authentically, right?

You're not like saying what's really happened to you.

It's like, almost like you're,

you're hiding something, but it's not even for yourself.

You're hiding it for someone else, kind of, or you're hiding it out of fear.

in a sense, because at that time there was no mechanism to come forward and write, like I mentioned, me too earlier.

Well, Me Too didn't help me at all.

Obviously,

it's Me Too only unless it's a blue candidate, right?

Right.

Right.

Um, so there was no infrastructure to support me coming forward because he had a lot of resources and power, and he always has.

So, it made it worse.

It made it worse.

And when he was VP, I talked about it or complained about it privately, but I didn't even consider going to the press.

And

when Monica Lewinsky happened,

what was going through your head?

I was like, oh, yeah, that's the atmosphere.

This is how they,

again, back to the predator class, but also during that period of time, it wasn't even looked upon as that remarkable, right?

I thought it was.

But I'm talking about in that circle,

in the bellway.

That's their modus operandi, right?

And he seems, at least in that case, kind of tender compared to what you experienced.

They had a relationship.

I didn't have a relationship.

That was an assault.

What I experienced was like,

you know, and Joe Biden always kinds of reminds me of like a

an arrogant frat boy, kind of.

He can get away with whatever.

Bill Clinton, you know,

has a history that's, you know, we don't even need to get into, but it's, but it's major.

But one of the people that I met after I came forward was Winita Broderick.

And she

did not willingly come forward.

It came forward because she gave it in a testimony about the rape.

There's a police report.

She was injured.

I mean, it's real.

But how many people even know of her, right?

And at the time,

before all of this, with Monica Lewinsky, I didn't know about

Winita Broderick.

I didn't know about all of that.

So you have to look at then at the people around Clinton.

And one of the people that keeps things quiet that also worked for Biden is James Carville.

Really?

And I think James Carville, to me,

he's not good.

He's, and I don't, I don't, it's my opinion.

It's my opinion, he's not a good man.

And

just watching the way he's covered up things that Clinton's done, watching the way he worked around Biden, watching him even speak publicly now, I mean, they have their guard dogs that basically protect their power, right?

James Carville's one of them.

So it's not just the actor that you're you're looking at, like Clinton, right?

The actor of the crimes.

It's the people that are complicit.

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Yeah.

I kind of wear it as a badge of honor.

And I've often thought, he doesn't have to give orders.

People at that level, they don't have to say, do this.

There are so many people around them that know that that'll make my boss happy, put me in a good position.

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And so you have this second level of corruption that happens all around these people that they may not even know about.

But even if they did, they'd be like, I don't know.

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You know what I mean?

Do you feel that way?

Absolutely.

I mean, Panetta was with Clinton at that time, right?

And then Panetta resigned.

That was a big flag, right?

But also, he was one of the people, you know, that kept,

you know, that.

And then he became head of the CIA.

I think what we're looking at and, you know, for your audience's purposes, when they look at, okay, what do we do?

We see all this corruption.

We're hearing all these terrible things.

What do we do?

And that was your original question.

What does someone do?

Would I, do I regret some of the ways I came forward?

Yes.

I would never have trusted the New York Times.

Okay.

Number one.

right?

That debacle.

Like they printed my social security number.

They retracted it.

Do you have the original copy of it?

Oh, yeah.

I have the, I can send it to you.

But there was a lawsuit I filed actually against the New York Times for printing my social security number.

What was the reason for

printing your social security number?

They said it was an accident.

They did it on my congressional ID because it's on there and they didn't black it out.

Well, everyone else in media had marked it out.

They said said it was just accidental.

That's amazing how many accidents happen.

They gave my right.

They gave how old I was.

They gave my mother's maiden name.

They gave all kinds of things in the article.

And then my social security number was online.

So look, and then immediately I had a barrage of- Of course, that's the unspoken power.

I'm on that team.

I can take care of things.

Yeah.

So going to what you said.

Yeah.

But what was interesting was the New York Times reporter told me me something that stayed with me.

When they first went to the Biden campaign about, you know, me coming forward, they didn't answer them.

They faxed them an article about me,

you know,

basically saying I was a Russian agent because I said something positive about Putin.

So they didn't answer the question.

And that's the thing, switch and bait.

That's classic political moves.

I mean, I'm sure Republicans do it too, switch and bait, right?

Change the subject so you don't have to deal with the core of the accusation.

So, what I would say, again, going back to your listeners of what to do is, even though it's been so hard, it's been excruciating at times.

And I don't even know what my next step is as far as, you know, being in the world.

I don't regret it.

It lifted a huge burden off of me to tell that secret that I was carrying because it wasn't my secret.

It's just something that happened to me.

And it wasn't disrespectful for me

to tell what happened to me.

There was so much shame around the issue.

And now, you know, that shame released.

Any

liberal or Democrat friends that stuck with you through this?

Or

did that all go away?

I have lost friends and family over this.

People saying, yeah, we know family members that were hardcore dumbs that said, we know it happened because they knew, but he lost his son.

I know.

Can we stop with that?

I know.

Gosh, we've all had tragic.

My cousin said that to me.

Oh, my gosh.

I know what he lost his son.

What does that mean?

And then a lot of times, like another older woman said, oh, this is just how men were at that time.

Get over it.

And my answer to that is, well, sure.

I mean, obviously a lot of time has passed.

I am over that.

But what I'm not over is that I lost my career and that he not only attacked me then to making sure that I couldn't have a career, but then in 2019 and 2020, he made sure that I couldn't even make a living and possibly go to prison.

So, yeah, you know, it's not that I have a chip on my shoulder.

He's still doing it.

He's still, this is abuse of power.

But my whole point is this isn't just about me.

I'm like the microcosm of a bigger problem.

They're doing this to whole countries.

They're doing this to groups of people.

Now they're doing it to the Republicans.

They're doing it to Julian Assange, as we mentioned.

So

this and it's people don't understand.

It just happened to Kanye West.

Yeah.

Where agree or disagree with Kanye, think he's nuts, don't think he's nuts.

He just lost his banking services.

Banking services.

They said, we don't want you banking here anymore.

We're becoming a country where you can,

it's a digital ghetto.

They don't have to put you behind a wall because the public square is online.

And if you can't do banking, you can't have a job,

you're in a ghetto.

You're in a ghetto.

I was told by an employer that I was a security risk, and then another one, they couldn't hire me.

And another potential employer said, look, you know what?

Wait, maybe we'll look at you when Biden isn't president anymore, but we don't want our company's taxes looked at.

We don't want to be be targeted.

We don't want to be hacked.

So there you have it.

So the Democratic Party doesn't have to actively do anything.

They basically

discredited me and just went after me using their resources.

Like, for instance, Really America, which is a super PAC that belongs to the Democratic Party.

There's a dude online called Brooklyn Dad.

He does targets.

He targeted the Cuomo survivors.

He targeted me.

Targets different people, Republicans.

He went really after the January 6th protesters.

The Brooklyn dad account, he makes $33,000 is what was revealed a month.

From

the super PAC to do, to just tweet, to sit on his ass, excuse me, and tweet and tweet vile things.

I mean, this is the amount of money that they're throwing at the disinformation.

And now, you know, you just saw the revelations about COVID.

And I won't get too much into that because I know that gets censored.

People get their platforms shut down.

They get demonetized.

You know, doctors have lost their jobs, their practices.

They could go to jail now in California.

That's

way out of line.

PayPal announced, remember, a few days ago, 2,500, then they backtracked and said, oh, no, we're not going to do that.

Well, it's still being floated.

Look, no, it's still, they only backtracked on what they deem misinformation.

But if they deem it to be hateful, it's still $2,500.

And who is they?

Who's like the Bank of America saying, you just said something hateful.

I'm taking $2,500 out of your account.

Your what?

Yeah.

I know.

We're in stunning times.

So people need to speak up.

They need to listen to independent podcasters and whatever.

And before you dismiss something as a a conspiracy theory,

you know, maybe listen a little bit.

Because remember Pizzagate, right?

Okay, that was nonsense, right?

My theory, and this is just my personal theory, knowing from the work that I've done, that was a CIA ops because they knew the Epstein thing was coming to, it was bubbling up in Florida.

There was a federal investigation.

There was local reporters.

It was starting, it wasn't national attention yet.

So they made up a story that seems so ridiculous that anyone talking about Epstein

is considered a conspiracy theorist.

One of those poor human trafficking victims actually on her Twitter handle had, I am not a conspiracy.

I am a human.

Wow.

That's how

that's the abuse of power.

It goes back to,

I think it was Eisenhower that warned us.

Oh, yeah.

About where we are now.

Oh, yeah.

If we would have just listened to that one speech and we all listened to the military-industrial complex, which again

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He warned about science.

He warned about education.

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And, you know,

Oliver Stone, Stone, award-winning director, Igor Lepotenik, another one.

They're on Ukraine military kill lists.

American journalist Wyatt Reed was almost killed three days ago.

He's an American journalist in Donbas, but he's not necessarily doing the State Department talking points, right?

He, on WhatsApp, you know, the little WhatsApp communication, he gave his location to someone.

An hour later, his hotel was bombed.

He survived.

But, I mean,

this is where we're headed.

Big tech is kind of colluding with

all of this.

But back to Oliver Stone and Igor Loponinik, they had their documentary, Ukraine on Fire, right?

It got taken down by YouTube.

Oliver Stone's an award-winning director.

If he can have something taken down from YouTube that had been up for years, like it's not a new documentary.

Isn't that amazing?

More information, not less information,

and trust the American American people.

I love

what

Churchill kind of echoed this later, but Jefferson said

he didn't want any scholars or

any kind of test on who was in a jury box.

I want the regular person.

He said, I want farmers because there's something that keeps people rooted in truth when they have their hands in the soil all the time.

But he said, you know, we're going to have to live with a system that the American people are going to get it wrong, but trust them that they'll eventually figure it out.

We don't have a system where we get the benefit of the doubt at all, that they don't trust us.

And it's like, wait a minute, we're the ones supposed to be skeptical of you and you call us conspiracy theorists because we're skeptical of you.

Right.

You know what I mean?

And you're doing all of these things and you don't

you don't know where conspiracy theory begins and conspiracy fact ends.

Right.

And that's how it can be weaponized, right?

Yes.

Right.

Against people.

And I really think too that this is such a remarkable time because we can, we're at a crossroads right now.

We're facing nuclear annihilation.

We are facing it right this minute.

Do you, why do you say that?

Why do you, because you've said this a couple of times and

I look in your eyes and you feel like I know this is coming.

Why?

Who, what?

Is it Putin?

Is it Biden?

Is it what?

I think that the hawks that are in our administration right now, that we call them or whatever, but I think back in 2020, I gave an interview and I said, I think that Joe Biden will try to take us to a war in Russia.

And someone privately said, don't say stuff like that.

It sounds like a conspiracy.

Where are we?

We're in a proxy war against Russia.

I say that because he's always had this kind of vision.

You have Andrew Blinken, you have other people that are in, Anthony Blinken, excuse me, that are in there that really see Russia as the enemy.

They see it as a way

that it's kind of a superpower, but not as a soft power.

They can manipulate it a bit in their eyes.

This is coming from their view.

But also, there's people around Biden that really believe that you can have a limited nuclear war.

And I think that's crazy, and I don't think that's possible.

But there are people in power right now, and that's why we're so close.

The rhetoric has gotten to a point.

But Biden was part of the administration with Obama that was trying to reset our relationship with Russia.

They were never.

When I was a young person and the actually Soviet Union had just fallen, there was such a,

you know,

still wanting to make Russia the enemy.

But the word, the scuttle on the hill at that time was they were never going to have a seat at the table economically.

And Russia was starting to become, because it has natural resources,

a power.

And, you know, they have a lot of innovation and science like we do.

And

that's not acceptable to the people that are in power right now.

And so you look at the hostility towards China.

And one thing, you know, that I feel bad about, because I was very

anti-Trump.

But Trump was right.

And he didn't get us close to a nuclear war.

But he was right about about a lot of things

so the most surprising thing to me because i swore because i was against him i i swore i would have testified in any court of law that i am absolutely right about donald trump that he's dirty and it's just going to take some investigation and that

he is a madman that will just throw us into chaos

wow don't i wish for the good old days of donald trump now Yeah.

There was a method to his madness.

We are in actual madness now.

Because you're with career politicians that have a lot to lose.

They have a lot to lose, and they don't want to lose it.

Western hegemony is

at the brink of not being.

You know, if there were leaders, and I think what Donald Trump was trying to say, and I don't want to put words in his mouth, so I don't want to be wrong, but one of the things that he was trying to point out is that economic bridges needed to be there because he's a businessman.

Yeah, yeah.

So, right now, we have politicians that have no interest in that.

But the fact of the matter is, we're in a multipolar world right now, right?

It just is.

So, if we participated in it instead of being the total unipolar power, like all having all the control, if we participated as you know, that

there would be innovation and there would be economic,

you know, it would be enough for everyone.

And I don't understand why that's so hard.

It's so much much better than just feeding the military, right?

The way we're doing.

And I've always had a faith in

our justice system.

I don't trust them at all.

And I've always had a faith that our military people are good.

And there might be crazy generals and, you know, everything else.

Might be some dirtbags in.

There's dirtbags in any group.

But generally, they were good and honest and had integrity.

I worry about the future of our military.

I think if we go dark, if we don't correct this now,

this power will not be lost.

It will be corrupted and we will become an extraordinarily bad nation.

Well, I mean, look at how we treat the military, people that volunteer.

Recently, they just told them to go on food stamps.

I mean, and we have the biggest military budget in the world.

Why are the soldiers going on food stamps?

Where's that money going?

What I'm talking about with the military-industrial complex is the manufacturers of weapons.

That's who's pocketing, lining their pockets.

Lockheed Martin, you know, all of them.

Right?

So when you watch CNN, and when your audience members watch those major news networks, they won't always put on there, like even Panetta, he sits on the board of a weapons manufacturer.

So who is he going to be talking and, you know what I mean, for?

He's not talking for the people.

He doesn't represent anyone anymore.

He's trying to make money.

How do we solve this?

I think that one of the things is we need to change who's running the government.

So, you know, instead of talking about regime change in other countries, we need to talk about it here.

And I don't mean that in a, you know,

overthrow sort of way.

I think that the overthrow can come internally.

I think people just need to think critically.

You know, the American people are not children, although the Democratic Party wants to treat people like that.

To kind of come out of your day-to-day grind and really, really,

before you feel like you have to do something because the government's telling you to, question it.

It's okay.

And if they don't allow you to question it, which is what's happening.

They're not in line with the Constitution.

You've already lost your country.

Yeah, then we've lost our country.

So it has to start with each person really standing up.

And, you know, I tried to do my bit.

We saw how that went.

But I'm still here.

And I'm still speaking.

And I have a podcast.

So if anybody wants to listen.

What's the podcast?

The Politics of Survival.

And, yeah, and I have interesting people on there.

I just had Wyatt Reed, the journalist that was almost killed,

on there because he was reporting from Donbass.

And,

you know, I think it's important we, and you don't know his name because mainstream media didn't even cover the fact that American journalist was almost killed

and that the Ukraine military targeted him.

Yeah.

I was

towards the end of Fox and

the things that were happening around me and

the machine, as you call it,

seeing the machine and seeing how it actually works was terrifying.

And my wife said to me,

I feel like we're living a Jason Bourne movie.

Exactly.

She's right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It is.

And it seems crazy, but until you actually get there,

you see behind the curtain and you see the machine and you're like, holy mother,

we got a lot of work to do.

Yeah, and I want to give some practical tips to your audience.

If there's someone out there that has something to say that's really, you know, powerful or had the experience use encrypted

technology use proton mail use

that's one that's a non-profit or whatever I don't know how they work but proton mail is encrypted

telegram is more encrypted but things like whatsapp Things like Facebook, those are all intelligence has already got their fingers in them.

And one of the things that we need to do as a country is we need to get big tech out of the privacy.

Edward Snowden, which I know people see him because that's the message is that he's a traitor.

But he exposed

the mass surveillance.

So, in my personal eyes, he's a hero.

I know to others, he's not.

I will tell you that

I thought he was a hero.

Then he ran to Russia and thought, wait a minute, what's that about?

Then I saw that he was forced to go there.

Yeah, you're like, what are you going to do?

He was forced.

Right.

Yeah.

But he was, his act was heroic to let us know.

And what's crazy,

no one seemed to care.

Yeah.

Well, it's like, it's like when I came forward about Biden and exposed what I did, you had people posting online, I don't care,

blue, no matter who, it's better than Trump.

That's the rhetoric.

That's the brainwashing.

Do you think that's changing now?

Yes.

What do you think is going to happen in the election?

I think that it's going to, I think the Democrats, and I'm going going to say this and people can like contact me if I'm wrong, but I really think the Democrats are going to lose the House and the Senate.

I think they're, they're so desperate.

That's why they're taking desperate measures like going into people's bank accounts.

And

yeah, I think we're there.

I think.

So let me ask you this because you know the machine.

The only thing, because I said this in 2020,

and

you will never convince me that

you could convince me that Trump won.

I'm sorry, that lost.

You can convince me that he won, but you'll never convince me there wasn't a massive effort to throw that election towards Biden.

And I said all the way on the lead up, why are they so confident?

Why are they so confident

and so reckless with policies?

Look at the arrogance now.

Is that because they're just completely out of touch because of their arrogance?

And they think everybody's with them?

Or do they know something we don't know?

My opinion is I think they've rigged the game.

You've got 200

corporations that own all the media in the West.

200.

That's not very many when you really get down to it, right?

Yeah.

You have big tech in their pocket.

Okay.

And they're pretty much mostly in the Democratic or the neoliberal pocket.

I think what you're watching, though, is unfolding is a pushback because I think neoliberalism is dead.

I think that that is gone.

And I think they know it.

So there's confidence that they're putting out there, but I think there's also a desperation.

I think they know that there's a shift coming.

And, you know, I think there was a recent poll that was very public about how 80 to 90% of the public don't trust media.

That says it right there.

People are done being lied to.

Now, this COVID thing and about how the level of those lies and how people were paid to lie, that's coming out.

We, you know, it's just,

you know, I hope that there are consequences.

And, you know, Tulsi Gabbard, I think, is to me

really a hero the way she came forward

and exited the Democratic Party.

I don't know what her future holds, but my prediction is, you know,

maybe DeSantis, Tulsa Gabbard, I don't know.

But her future, I think, people resonate with her.

And the sad thing

about vilifying some of the people that went to January 6th is that working people just wanted someone who was talking real to them.

And, you know, you can say what you want about Trump, and he's,

you know, and I'm not pro-Trump at all, as you know, but

he is who he is.

He is exactly right.

He is who he is.

And

people were so desperate for someone, and it's only getting worse, for someone to recognize them

and not stab them in the back.

And when he held true to them,

that's where

that's.

He's not a hypnotist.

He just understands there's a huge portion of this country who is constantly dismissed and called names.

Constantly.

And all they do is they just, they pay taxes, they work hard, they're trying to raise their kids, they just want to be left alone, and they seem to keep getting the short end of the stick.

And the American dream is further and further from everyone's reach.

And that's what, that's what, so what you saw bubbling up wasn't about Trump.

It was about the working class not having anyone to look to for real help.

He's not the cause.

Yeah.

He's the effect.

And Joe Biden is not working class.

And he tries to put this, you know, again, the wolf in sheep's clothing.

He tries to put this whole persona on that he's working class.

No, he's not.

He's he's elite.

And he, you know, and it's like what was said.

They're an elite cabal and they are holding on to their power

by any means.

In a perfect world.

What does justice look like to you, for you?

Well, I want it to be for more than just me because I'm older now and, you know, my time is.

I don't expect there to be justice about my particular case, but I really hope what would look like justice to me is a congressional investigation into Joe Biden.

I want to see his crimes of corruption, not just my case, but the other crimes exposed publicly.

I want to see

Democratic nationalism.

I'm not going to say that there is crime that he committed that Press, mainstream media won't even suggest, they suggested this week, absolutely no evidence of any kind of crime of Joe Biden.

That's super frustrating because

I'm trying to like hold my, but like I experienced a direct crime, what would be considered a crime, right?

So there was my, my personal case, but, but besides that, on media, he basically committed a crime and everyone saw the interview where he talked about firing the attorney in Ukraine.

I mean, it's right there.

And then, of course, the Saudi Arabia just released a letter, talked about how they were being coerced into waiting until after the midterms.

But I don't, it's not even getting mainstream attention.

So yeah, that's frustrating that the mainstream media is so complicit with that corruption, but that's what we're at.

So look to intimidate, you know, I'm on INN, Independent News Network.

You have your

media.

I mean, you have

your media.

Everyone has different,

there's different outlets we can look to now before they take us all down, right?

Before they blaze TV.

We better all hang together or we will all hang separately.

Yes.

And, you know, they're taking out, like they say they're taking out, you know, the right wing, some of the right-wing spokes, but they're also doing that to the left or people that are considered lefty.

Oh, I

I have plenty of new friends and fans who were die-hard on the left.

I mean,

many of them would never have even considered coming on the show, even after they left the Democratic Party.

I was still a monster.

And they've become good friends of mine and been on the show and everything else.

Not because we agree.

Right.

But we agree on the search for truth.

Yes.

Truth.

That's it.

There you have it.

It has been a delight to talk to you.

Thank you for coming down.

Thank you for being so open and listening to me.

I really am so happy to be here.

Thank you.

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