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So Stu and I are here.

You know, just kind of hanging out, doing a show.

You know, it's just the way we roll.

Yeah, the show was bookended today.

With some bad news at the beginning.

And good news at the beginning.

And good news at the end.

And really good news at the end.

And then really good stuff in the middle.

Well, and entertaining stuff in the middle.

Some of it wasn't so great, but.

And my silver die here.

Yes.

From Sam Giacana.

Yes.

Yeah.

Obviously, why wouldn't you have that?

Well, yeah, because I couldn't afford anything else of his, but he was a, you know, he got like a medal of freedom.

He was like a mob guy that killed a lot of people, but he loved his country.

He loved his country.

Well, that's great to hear.

Okay.

All right.

On today's podcast, bad news, bad news, but really good news, too.

I think you'll enjoy it.

Yeah.

Bill O'Reilly's on.

Oh.

Michael Malice is on.

Funny, funny, funny Michael Malice.

Funny, hysterical Jamie Kilstein.

Great group today.

Yeah, really good.

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You're listening to the best of the Blanbeck program.

I can't thank you enough

for listening, for supporting us at the Blaze, and also

for your prayers.

I know millions of people across the country, okay, at least five people,

pray for me all the time, and I really appreciate it.

I can feel your prayers.

prayers.

I have not been this optimistic in a while, and I've been like this all week.

And I mean, I'm reading the psychology of totalitarianism.

There's no reason for my mood to be good.

But

it is, and that's what I've been praying for: optimism and

being able to see through the trees to the other side.

So, thank you for that.

Russell Vogt is with us.

He's with the Center for Renewing America President.

He is the former director of the OMB, the Office of Management and Budget.

And the Center for Renewing America yesterday filed a complaint against Zuckerberg and voting rights groups over alleged influence of the 2020 election.

He is here to tell us about it now.

Russ, how are you, sir?

I'm doing great, Glenn.

Thanks for having me on.

You bet.

So tell me exactly what you're doing.

We are asking the IRS to do an investigation of what we know happened, but they have not come to ground on.

And that is that three entities, the Center for Tech and Civic Life, the Center for Election Innovation and Research, and the National Vote at Home Institute, received upwards of over $400 million from Priscilla Chan and Mark Zuckerberg.

We now have called them Zuckerbergs over the last year.

And they basically used nonprofit educational C three tax-deductible organizations to intervene and do partisan activity.

I mean, it's one of the biggest interventions in election history.

I can't think of a greater one.

And this puts aside all of the stuff that Facebook did to regulate people's speech.

This was $400 million to intervene under the pretext of COVID.

And what they did was they gave this money directly to local election offices and put them under restrictive contract agreements and privatized the workings of an election so that the same people that were trying to get the Democrats to win were actually running the offices themselves.

So they had access to the ballots in storage facilities.

They had the ability to know is a particular absentee ballot deficient from a signature standpoint?

Does it need to be cured?

And they were talking all the time with one particular candidate.

And so this is so far beyond

what should happen even if you're dealing with a PAC.

But to have this being done by a 501c3 organization, that's something that needs to be investigated, and their tax exempt status needs to be revoked.

And Priscilla Chan and Mark Zuckerberg, their tax deduction for this particular expense needs to go away.

So he probably would have done it even if he didn't, he couldn't write it off, although he's lost so much money, lost so much money lately.

Maybe he is scrounging for it.

But do you think the IRS

is going to investigate this, or is this

something that you're just teeing up so if and when the Republicans take control of the House and oversight, they can put the screws to the IRS?

The latter.

What we want to happen is we want this to be

in their

inbox.

We want them to be able to know that this is something that a future conservative administration will investigate so that it has a chilling impact on all C3s on the left that would purport to intervene in this way.

You know that the conservative nonprofits, they never, they're very compliant.

The IRS is all over them.

There's a long history of this occurring.

And on the left, of course, they are flagrant all over the place, and the IRS never comes down on them.

But I also believe next year, as early as next year, if there's a Republican Congress, there is an opportunity to say to the country,

you know, this agency has a long history of being weaponized.

What are the ways that we are going to judge?

Are you

regaining the trust of the American people?

I believe this is one way in which they can do that.

And I think that comes as part of us getting rid of the 87,000 new IRS auditors and taking back that $80 billion.

That fight is actually happening right now as we're trying to prevent them from passing in Congress a long-term appropriations bill so we have leverage in January.

But so I think it's part of a multi-step process, but it starts with getting the complaint in their docket and sending the making it that they understand this is an illegal thing that took place.

Russ, thank you so much.

Tell me about your organization that you started.

What do you exactly do you do?

Center for Renewing America is engaged on making sure we're picking the fights on all the America-first cultural issues that really until Donald Trump ran for office, the establishment didn't ever want to be part of the agenda setting process.

And so we're saying, look, we're going to talk about illegal immigration and securing the border, but we're also not going to just blame Biden for it.

He is the problem.

But we're going to come forward and we're going to have a specific solution that says state governors can declare it an invasion and unilaterally secure the border.

So

how come we haven't done that?

It is so clearly an invasion.

When you have Venezuela emptying their prisons and sending people up, what is that?

And I mean, we're just being overwhelmed here in the border states.

Why haven't they declared this an invasion?

Glenn, you and I actually look at the Constitution as it is and not as 200 years of bad precedent and bad statesmanship.

And that's not what Republican establishment governors do.

They look to avoid conflict with the federal government.

We don't live in that world anymore in terms of being able to accept that.

And so I believe this is going to happen.

The person running as the Republican nominee, Kerry Lake, has said this would happen on day one.

Abbott has not taken it off the table.

He has, in fact, said he has the authority to do it.

He just then didn't go forward and do it.

And so I think that he's still studying it.

We are batting down all the excuses that have arisen.

But I think it's going to happen in two of the three, four big states along the border as early as next year.

But you're right, it is maddening how long it has taken to get this

through the political cartels

agenda setting process.

And when they do declare it, what does that trip?

What happens?

So it will look very similar to Title 42.

And this is

what they will do is they will give rules of engagement to their state troopers.

And they will say, okay, you're going to interdict an illegal immigrant, and you're just going to bring them back to the border.

You're not going to house them.

You're not going to put them in big new facilities along the border.

You're literally going to just send them back across the border into Mexico, not at points, ports of entry.

And that's really a key distinction.

You're going to send them back to Mexico.

uh and and ken cuccinelli will tell you that under the trump administration we could do that within two hours so once that happens if all of central america and mexico gets the joke that the border is is closed uh the flow has stopped will they try to get in a mile or two down the road yes but you stop them there but the main point is that uh you have at that point cauterized the border from a from the flow standpoint and you have an opportunity to take the neon light off the border And the Border Patrol, they answer, though, to the federal government.

And with Biden in charge, he will instruct them to make sure that that's not happening, right?

So, I mean, do we have a, what, a constitutional conflict?

We will have a constitutional conflict depending on how the feds

react.

I don't personally do not think the Border Patrol would be where they attempted to do that.

But we've looked at the law and articulated and really studied it.

And there is no federal justification for a federal

agent to arrest a state trooper because they're not operating under any federal laws in this.

They're operating under Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3 of the Constitution, and it's outside of immigration law.

So what we've done is establish the legal high ground for Abbott or a potential governor, Lake, to be able to say, what are you doing?

If you want to create this,

that's your choice, but you have no constitutional legal high ground to do this.

And we will be thinking through operationally on how this should look.

I mean, that's one of the reasons why I think that these, you know, you don't want to take them to the points of entry because that's where the Border Patrol is.

And so you've got to make it so that you're trying to minimize that conflict as much as possible.

Russ, thank you for everything that you're doing.

Appreciate it.

God bless you, and thank you for

the setups here of what I think are very, very important.

We've got to stop people like Zuckerberg and Soros and everybody else that'll just dump money and buy elections and rig the elections.

So thank you so much.

It's Russell Vogue.

You bet.

He's the president of the Center for Renewing America and former director of Office of Management and Budget.

This is the best of the Glen Beck program.

Mr.

Bill O'Reilly, welcome to the program.

It's Friday, the biggest story of the week.

Well, first of all, you miss me, Beck.

Fess up.

We haven't spoken in a few weeks, and you miss me.

I know you did.

Sure.

All right, so my most important story of the week is a little convoluted, and I'm usually not that way

but this is something you'll hear nowhere else.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

So the United States is in bad economic shape.

I don't, it doesn't matter what Biden says.

I mean everybody knows.

Right.

So if you have stocks, your stocks are going down.

If you have to buy food to live, the food bills are going up.

If you're going to have to heat your house, you're going to pay a ton this winter.

So everybody knows that.

And the reason reason the U.S.

economy is doing poorly is because of Joe Biden's executive orders.

And the first day in office, he said, we're going to slap all of these restrictions on harvesting fuel in the United States.

Bing!

That lighted the fuse for inflation, and the rest, as they say, is history.

Are you with me so far, Ben?

I know it's been a long summer.

Okay.

So then Biden goes to the U.N.

today,

this week,

and he says the United States is going to spend $362 billion

fighting climate crisis.

It's no longer climate change, by the way.

It's now climate crisis because apparently Pakistan is underwater.

And

every Pakistani has been issued a snorkel.

Right, I didn't know that, but I mean, I could have told you it was coming,

climate denier.

So 362 billion U.S.

tax dollars going to fight the climate crisis.

And there he is up there, virtue signaling.

And sitting in front of him, right in front of him, is the delegation from India.

India is not going to do a thing about the climate crisis, even though it's next door to Pakistan.

Even though they may have to wear snorkels soon.

They're not doing it.

And then north of India is China.

They're not doing it.

They're building more coal plants.

And then north of China is Russia.

They're not doing it.

So there's Biden, who has destroyed the U.S.

economy himself,

virtue signaling to the world that the United States is going to spend all of this money, which is of course going to ignite inflation worse

here, to fight climate crisis.

Yet these three humongous countries are not going to do anything with which offsets anything the USA would do.

Well, I will tell you, they are doing something.

They're cheering us on.

They want us to do it.

They think it's

a hurt our economy.

Exactly right.

Right.

So that's the biggest story of the week because nobody has linked that together.

Nobody Nobody but me, Beck, which is why you have me on every Friday.

No one.

Okay?

All right.

So

every single person in this country directly affects everyone.

I will tell you what is happening because of climate.

I don't know if you saw the EU this week also doubled down and said we're going to

increase

our commitment to reducing carbon, and we are going to go beyond what we said we were going to do, which they haven't even met what they said they were going to do, but they're going on beyond.

They are committing, especially Germany, they are committing suicide.

I don't, number one, I don't believe anything they say.

Okay, so and what they do, I don't care.

Ironically, if Trump had been re-elected,

we now would be selling

all the fuel the EU needs, and our economy would be booming off the chart.

Yes.

Okay, this is what drives me crazy.

Because the American people, they don't have this is what I do for a living, okay?

I'm an analyst.

I look and I've got a great staff, and you do too, by the way, good research.

And

we know exactly what's happening, but the folks don't know.

And they can't find out now unless they listen to you or me.

They just can't find out.

So the analysis that I just gave you,

how if Trump had been reelected, not only would our economy be booming, but everybody in Europe would be dependent on the USA.

I mean, you know what kind of power that is?

And therefore, China and Russia, their power would be diminished.

And so it's all a linkage across the board.

I hope I'm not being too pinheady here.

No, no, yeah.

But Joe Biden has no idea

of this.

And I'm not giving him a pass.

I think he's a terrible president.

I'll just give you one real quick here because she used to live in New York.

So yesterday, Biden wraps it up at the UN, right?

Instead of having dinner and then going to Kennedy Airport about 7.38 after rush hour, Biden leaves Manhattan at 5.45.

Oh, my gosh.

Nobody understands.

There are only 12 exits to that island.

Paralyzing the whole

area,

causing massive delays for every human being.

He doesn't care.

He doesn't care about people on the border.

He doesn't care about Gridlock to Ohio.

All he had to do was have dinner.

Just have a nice dinner and leave later.

No.

Bill, I'd like your analysis on what you see happening

in November with the election.

The numbers are starting to go.

We're going to do a segment later on in the program.

The numbers are really swinging hard

towards the Republicans.

And there are some seats that are being possibly being grabbed that they didn't think that they would be able to grab.

What do you think is going to happen?

I don't know.

I don't know what's going to happen.

But I will give you a likely scenario.

And again, you will hear this nowhere else but with O'Reilly, billorilly.com, whatever O'Reilly's doing, you guys should check it out.

So the key to all this does not show up in the polling.

So you can see the polls in Arizona and in Nevada and New Hampshire.

And, you know, it's close in the senatorial races and all.

Here's the key beck.

If the minorities don't vote, particularly African Americans, then there will be an unbelievable landslide for the Republicans.

And my theory, and that's what it is, it's just a theory, is that black Americans are getting hurt worse

by this terrible economy and inflation than the rest of the population.

And they're not going to be dancing out there to vote for the Biden Democratic Party.

I could be wrong, of course.

But if the African-American vote is suppressed, if they don't come out the way they usually do, it's over.

And the Democrats will lose both houses of Congress.

So I had Cash Patel on with me for a podcast that is out now.

If you're a subscriber to Blaze TV, it'll be out Saturday, wherever you get your podcast.

But

I asked him, I said, you know, I don't think that the Democrats are going to stop coming after Donald Trump

until there's a perp walk.

I mean, I really think

he could say, I'm going to go play golf for the rest of my life, and I don't think they'd stop.

No, that's all they have.

In New York State, you had the Attorney General, Letitia James, announce a civil lawsuit against the Trump organization and Donald Trump.

Everybody remembers that, okay, it happened this week.

Now, if you look at the action, two things.

Number one, she is alleging bank fraud.

Not one bank

signed on to her civil lawsuit.

Not one.

Why?

We found out the Trump organization paid back all its loans.

So there's no victim.

They paid it all back.

The reason that she is filing a civil lawsuit is she knows she can't get a criminal conviction.

That's why the Manhattan DA wouldn't even get involved.

But her buddy, Governor Kathy Hokle, is in trouble here in New York.

And so Letitia James is pushing this

into the forefront, hoping

that all the Democrats will mobilize and vote for Hokul.

It's about Hokul,

not Trump,

because the only thing the Democrats have is we're not Trump.

We hate Trump.

You hate him too.

So let's vote for Democrats.

That's it.

They have nothing else.

Is it working in New York?

We don't know.

There's polling going on right now, internal polling, which is stuff you don't see.

And I should know by early next week.

But I mean, who would, I mean,

would they elect a Republican in New York?

Well Zelda's pretty close according to Trafalgar

which is a good poll Wow.

He's yeah.

And and she won't debate and she's got a scandal about COVID

testing equipment to a donor.

I mean it's a she's a mess here.

So it's possible again

New York State is dominated by New York City.

If the minority vote doesn't come out,

Zelda will win.

Wow.

That would be massive.

Cataclysmic is the word.

It would be.

All right, back with Bill O'Reilly in just a second.

Bill, your take on the Martha's Vineyard coverage this week.

Okay.

All right.

Thank you for asking.

And by the way, if you can give me two minutes at the end before you boot me off here.

I got it.

I got it.

Okay.

Yep.

I need two minutes of your time.

So, Martha's Vineyard,

I have applied directly to Governor DeSantis for a plane ticket myself.

I want to go to Martha's Vineyard, right?

And I want to go there and

I'm willing to sign a form saying that Governor DeSantis can send me there at his expense.

That's number one.

It's already in motion back.

I've already done that.

Got it.

Number two,

this is a stunt by DeSantis.

And it's pretty brilliant.

It is.

Because every conservative, every traditional American is applauding this because

traditional conservative Americans despise sanctuary cities and this virtue signaling of these people who are causing an immense amount of pain for the United States and for the migrants themselves.

Never overlook that.

The migrants themselves to get here suffer grievously at the hands of the cartels in Mexico.

So anyway, DeSantis is and this is

you can take this to the the bank, Beck.

DeSantis is watching Trump.

Trump is not a lock for the nomination on the Republican side.

He's ahead,

and MAGA still is a formidable operation, but he's not a lock.

DeSantis is not going to primary Donald Trump.

No.

Because DeSantis is 44 years old.

Why would he do that and alienate all the MAGA voters when he can run four years from now?

He will win re-election in Florida.

Yes.

DeSantis.

Okay.

So DeSantis is saying to himself, I need to get my name known.

I need the people in Montana to know who I am.

What better way than to do this?

That's why he did it.

So

the George Soros crew in Boston, these unbelievable far-left lawyers, file a civil suit against DeSantis.

This helps DeSantis.

And then DeSantis pops up going, we have consent forms.

We have consent forms from every migrant we sent to Martha's Vineyard.

Love it.

And the final part of this is the denizens of Martha's Vineyard itself.

Have you ever been to Martha's Vineyard, Beck?

Yes, I have.

Okay.

Not treated well at Martha's Vineyard, but it's beautiful.

Were you stoned to death?

Almost, almost stoned to death.

Almost.

Now, I've been there many, many times because I worked local news in Boston.

And it is beautiful.

It is a beautiful island with a great history.

But the people who live there,

generally speaking, and I have friends who have houses there, and they're good people, but most of the people are insipid.

In other words,

insipid.

Okay.

Not the people who actually live there year-round.

Those are okay people.

Those are okay people.

It's the people.

These are the people with the sweaters tied around the neck.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

You know, and the

J crew outfit

and their little pinky comes out when they drink the tea.

Those people.

Right.

So

you don't want to be hanging with them.

So they, of course, they don't want these migrants on their front lawn unless they're cutting the lawn.

Right.

Right.

And you know what's amazing?

You could send them to Washington, D.C., and it gets some reporting.

You can send them to New York City, get some reporting.

You send them where all of those power brokers have their houses, and it is the biggest story of the year.

Of course.

They know the hypocrisy is blatant.

They're not stupid people.

They know.

But again, just like Joe Biden and the rush hour, they don't

they don't it's all about them okay

I'm gonna make this about you we're two minutes out go ahead okay two minutes killing the legends the lethal danger of celebrity comes out on Tuesday all right September 27th the reason this book is out on the heels of killing the killers is because of COVID we usually put out a book a year but now we're putting in two because killers couldn't come out until this year now this book and next Friday I hope you give me a little extra time so we can talk about it.

This is about how famous people get crushed and betrayed.

It's about Elvis Presley, John Lennon, and Muhammad Ali, but it's really more than that.

It's about Donald Trump and Joe Biden.

And if you are a famous person in America today with the internet, social media, it is almost impossible for you not to get badly damaged.

No one escapes who is famous.

Yeah, I'm interested in reading it.

I wish you would send me a copy of it.

No, I dropped, we have we've charted a helicopter and dropped

copies in your backyard.

Now, seriously, I do want a copy of it if you would just send me a copy.

I sent you a copy of it.

I don't know.

Well, anyway,

it's always the same thing with you.

Anyway, but I'm interested in reading it because I saw the Elvis movie this summer, which I thought was great.

But

you leave there really feeling bad for him.

Yeah.

You know,

he was in a cage, and it was a velvet cage.

It was a nice cage, but it was still a cage, and he had been betrayed forever.

Listen, when you read this book, Beck, if you can find the copy in your backyard, I can't.

It's harrowing what happened to these three men.

Okay.

Harrowing.

I'll read it.

It comes out Tuesday.

It's Bill O'Reilly, Killing the Legends, the Lethal Danger of Celebrity.

We'll see you next week, Bill.

Thank you very much.

Maybe have you on Tuesday to talk about the book.

I mean, he just hangs up on me.

That guy, man.

Okay, he's not coming on on Tuesday.

Well, first, he won't send you a book, and now this guy.

I know, you know.

When will this guy do what he says he's going to do?

You're listening to the best of the Glendeck program.

All right, every day we go online and we say and do whatever, right?

I found out yesterday, Stu, this is crazy.

I was in a meeting yesterday

and

we were talking about social media and they're like, Glenn, you're really big on TikTok.

And I'm like, what are you talking about?

How?

That doesn't even make any

sense.

In a million different ways.

Like, it makes no sense whatsoever.

But

that's you.

Whatever.

Mr.

TikTok.

Yeah, I know.

And I only see TikTok.

I only see stupid people on TikTok.

So is that why I'm a success?

I mean, good point.

I don't know.

Before my wife's fine to make it on TikTok.

Yeah, my wife is like, I'm so concerned about our internet security.

And then I'll see her scrolling through TikTok.

And I'm like, well, you just gave everything to China.

Anyway.

I've only had that same conversation 50 times.

I know.

I keep saying to my kids and my wife, what do I have to say more than this is a black op from the Communist Party?

They're gathering all of the information to destroy us and you.

But I don't know.

I know, but it's funny.

Funny.

Watch this.

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Jamie, how are you, my man?

I laughed so hard at that intro

because it was like,

I felt the same way.

I was like, oh, tragic, tragic, tragic.

No, no, no, I'll be funny.

Everything's fine.

And

you're, you're like, back in the day before my life imploded, you know, a comedian gets introduced for a radio show, and you're like, you know, you've heard this next guy on Conan O'Brien, and now my intros are just this long, tragic tale.

My next guest is searching for redemption

purgatory.

My next guest has been considering suicide, but today he's fine.

So

we caught him on an off day.

He doesn't know how to tie a proper knot.

But man, I'll tell you, you did say something, and we covered this on your podcast, but you did say something so wild, which is

me being painted as this sort of

outside thing to be examined is so bizarre.

because

like nuance shouldn't be edgy.

Having multiple opinions on different issues shouldn't be controversial.

And the fact that I feel like the people, and you've gotten this too, who get the most thrown under the bus now.

And don't get me wrong, I used to be that way.

I used to be like, pick a side and start losing friends like the rest of us.

But now,

you know, I think it's so healthy.

And I also think it is representative of the majority of people, but the majority of people are too nervous to anger their own tribe.

So if they do, you know, if it's a conservative who's like, I don't really care about gay marriage, or if it's a liberal who's like, yo, these drag shows are like not okay,

they're afraid to sort of get ostracized from their own group because, you know, things are so rough right now, we're clinging on to any sort of life support that they just keep it quiet.

But I think the majority of people are going to start speaking up and be like, hey, man, there are crazies on both sides and there are also really cool people on both sides.

So if your life hadn't exploded or imploded, do you think you would have come to this or did it take a shipwreck to get you?

I think about this a lot.

I think about this a lot.

I really do think it may have taken some sort of shipwreck.

You know what I mean?

Even if it was just a

yeah.

I have to tell you, I think, you know, I've said this all the time when, you know,

I'll be at church and they'll be like, oh, share your testimony.

And I'll be like, yeah, I really feel sorry for you guys that you didn't have a life that imploded because I really needed redemption.

You know what I mean?

I really needed it.

And I don't know if I would have actually found it if it wasn't,

you know, if I wasn't on a ledge.

Yeah, and

I'll tell you, I.

You know,

I know I'm supposed to be funny, but I think this is important.

No, you

just be you.

Go ahead.

Yeah,

I think that

it was, and not to, you know, kiss up, whenever I do a conservative show, people always start tweeting me pictures of red pills.

And I'm like, I know, I know, it's happening.

But like, I will say, I did not feel that way for 10 years because for 10 years, I was only still surrounded with liberals.

And, you know,

so many of them off air,

off any public be like, hey, man, I'd love to have you on my podcast.

but like, I don't want to get in trouble.

And for the record, like, I don't think what you did was bad.

And, you know, I cheated on my girlfriend in my 30s.

And oh, my wife is furious.

She thinks what happened to you wasn't bad at all.

Anyway, we can't be seen together in public.

And if you could lose this number.

And then, when I started

when

I moved to Austin, Texas, which is, I think, legally required for white podcasters, when I moved down here, I suddenly, like, I was hanging out with conservatives and moderates and libertarians and people who

they didn't have to go check Twitter to see if they could be your friend.

People who just sincerely saw you for who you are.

How do you treat my family?

How do you treat my kids?

How do you treat me?

And these are people from jiu-jitsu and these are people, you know, all over the place that aren't necessarily in the political sphere.

And that's when, I mean, we're talking this year at 40.

You know, I had an affair 10 years ago, eight, 10 years ago.

We're talking this year at 40 years old is the first time meeting you.

It's the first time that I've been like, oh, what happened to me was a blessing.

What happened to me did lead me to find God.

It did lead me to open my mind.

It did lead me to, you know, changing my views on certain things.

But dude, when it felt like nobody had your back and it's just me.

And I'd have people tell me, you know, I have a great comedian Burt Kreischer.

I did his podcast a long time ago and I was still living in LA and he was like bro like this is going to be a blessing you get to restart and I was just like shut up like my life is awful like I live like my my old my apartment in LA when I like after my divorce was so bad you know how hard it is to break a lease especially in like LA and New York it was so bad that when I couldn't afford it anymore and I went up to the landlord to be like hey I have to break the lease he literally looked me in the eyes and goes just don't tell anyone what you saw here.

And I was like, oh, okay.

Like, that's out of a horror movie.

It's out of a horror movie.

And, you know, so then I was like, no, dude, I don't see how things are good.

And now that I've been around, and I never thought I would say this, more open-minded people, I thought liberals were the open-minded people because we listened to Kendrick Lamar, like, but no, like the conservatives I've hung out with are more open-minded.

And again, it's funny because I used to make fun of religion too.

It's like, no, they're the ones that talk about forgiveness.

I thought liberals were the ones who would talk about forgiveness because of prison reform, because we, I thought we were more open-minded.

But the ones who actually like practice what they preach, who I've met, and there are, again, there are plenty of liberals who are cool and like this as well.

And there's plenty of conservatives that are, they suck.

That are the total opposite and that'll be monsters that are like, well, I go to confession every Sunday, so it's fine.

Right.

Right, right, right, right.

So So

let's talk a little bit about

Ron DeSantis.

And

how did you view this?

And

what did you learn?

Put your lab coat on, buddy.

I went all over the place with this.

I went so schizophrenic with this because when it first happened, I was like, haha, stupid liberals.

I thought it was so funny.

And because I've hung out with rich liberals.

Like, there's part of me that I'm surprised the Martha's Vineyard people didn't have the immigrants like sentenced to death.

Like, I've hung out with people who will tweet about Black Lives Matter, but cross the street when they see like a real life black person.

I've been to like vegan Hollywood parties that are like just missing a whites only sign and like separate water fountains.

Like,

I've been around these people.

And so seeing them have to confront their own hypocrisy was good.

And to stick up for the liberals, by the way, and to attack the media, the media just wants us to see the worst cases.

You know, there were people who took residents in, who fed them, who cooked them meals.

And we never see that stuff.

You know, the media problem.

But I'll bet you that it was not the people who have the big houses.

I'll bet you it was the average person that lives there year round.

And those aren't rich people.

No, I bet you you are a thousand percent right.

A thousand percent.

Yeah, that's always the funniest thing when you see the like um black lives matter or like support immigrant, like little lawn sign in between like eight layers of armed security

where it it's it's performative, right?

And

so I thought that, you know, I was like, good, but then I don't know if you had this moment or where you are on DeSantis.

Oh, and I also will say, I do love the sort of no-nonsense Texas where it's just like, we're just going to send a bunch of people over or like you know it's the texas attitude and i feel like florida is just like the texas of the sea um but then there was this moment there was this moment where i was like ha ha and i was looking at my conservative friends on twitter and they were making jokes about it and it was really funny and then again i don't know if you guys had this but i was like

where did he get those brown people from like i had this moment of like wait a second did ron de santis like did he kidnap a bunch of like immigrants?

Like, did he traffic them?

Was he just holding them in his basement?

Like, I had no idea where.

And that, by the way, that's the most Florida man thing you could do is just kidnap a bunch of immigrants.

Like, the only thing that would have made that more Florida is if he had like an alligator guarding them.

Like, I was like, bro, just hire actors.

Just hire Mexican actors.

It's very in right now to catch Latina X or whatever they're called.

Like, don't take real starving, starving, desperate people and trick them just to own the lib.

Like, I would have rather Ron DeSantis put on an offensive like Mexican costume and a little thick mustache and just gone to Martha's Vineyard himself.

Like, go to the top with a pinka.

Like, it would have been great.

But that was one of those moments where, like, I couldn't let myself fully get wrapped up.

No, wait a minute, wait a minute.

But wait a minute.

He didn't, and everybody signed a release for him.

They knew where they were going.

Come on, man.

You wouldn't want a free,

I will, I'll claim to be an illegal if he'll send me some tickets to go to Martha's Vineyard.

Well, yeah, but then you do ask yourself questions, right?

Where you go,

like what I had to do was take myself out of it and go and think about being, I mean,

it's the Christ thing, right?

Where you just go, okay, what's it like to be those people?

And I think that it is,

we are so used to looking at the news through the lens of social media where it seems like a video game.

And as a video game, that's hilarious.

And Ron won.

And the liberals look ridiculous.

And I will give Ron DeSantis credit as well, which is this is what it took the media.

This is how far we had to go to get the media to cover this crisis.

And I was also really surprised when I, because I asked on Twitter where I was like, hey, did Ron DeSantis just kidnap a bunch of Mexicans or whatever, Venezuelans, whatever?

And

a lot of conservatives who I thought were essentially just build a wall, not my problem.

I don't want to see them were actually giving me very heartfelt responses where it's like, no, dude, of course we don't want to see immigrant families starving.

It's just the system has been so broken that this is what happens, right?

I have to tell you, both sides.

When the response from the left and the media has been so telling,

they keep saying, all these cities keep saying they're sanctuary cities.

We don't have room.

Wait, you have

your New York.

You think a little teeny town of 20,000 people can handle 25,000 people that just came across the border?

And you don't even talk about it.

You don't talk about the fentanyl.

You don't talk about the actual smuggling of humans, the rape that is happening from these drug cartels as they're bringing people over.

It's a horror show.

And

they don't care.

I'm so glad you said that because this reminds me, because I was thinking that when you said New York, I started thinking about LA.

And there was part of me that was like, God, LA can just build houses for TikTok influencers.

Like, why don't we help real people, right?

But I remember the last time I went to LA,

which was just a couple weeks ago,

it was bad.

I mean, the homeless problem problem was just as bad, if not worse, than you do see on social media.

And I had this like heartbreaking moment because, again, if you look at stereotypes of the left and of the right, you have liberals saying, hey, man, don't worry about it.

Like, you know, let them build the tents.

Let them, you know, and they're doing it under the guise of like, you know, being compassionate.

And then you have conservatives, which I've seen, who just go, ew, gross.

Look at this.

Look at what a disgusting mess this city has become, blah, blah, blah.

And what's not happening in the middle is legit compassion, where when you walk by these people, seeing them as people, asking yourself how we got here, and then looking for a solution, right?

So you have politicians like, I think his name is Michael Schellenberger, who tried to

dethrone Newsome.

He's great.

And he was a big liberal.

And all of my friends on the left hated this guy.

And so when I researched him, I thought he was just going to be like, march the homeless into the ocean.

Like, I don't need to

do this.

And

I started like reading what he's trying to do.

And it's like, no, this dude is actually willing to be hated and is trying to say, don't put them in tents, don't put them in hotels.

It literally doesn't work.

You believe in science, liberals?

Look at the stats.

It doesn't work.

We have to get them into treatment.

We have to help them.

And very similar to what you were saying about immigration, where it's just like, I feel like the left is so good at pretending to care, right?

And pretending to be compassionate, but it's like, man, if what we're doing isn't working.

All right.

Yeah.

Jamie, I only have a minute here.

We're going to have to have you on again sooner rather than later because you're just, you're my, you're my favorite science experiment and you're funny.

Uh, so anyway, where, where are you going to be performing where people can see you?

Yeah, so I'll be in Syracuse of the Funny Bone in October.

I'm performing at Skank Fest in Las Vegas in October as well.

I'm in Austin all the time, opening for people like Duncan Trussell.

And then, um, the most important thing, I'm going to start a mental health comedy podcast.

We're not there yet, so I would say I would love to talk to your fans, learn more.

Uh, follow me on social media, on Twitter at Jamie Kilstein, and uh, uh, also on Instagram at the Jamie Kilstein.

Chad Fraether is desperately trying to get a young conservative girl to slide into my DMs.

He wants me to marry a Christian.

Oh, you will.

You will be.

You're maybe six months away from being a preacher.

You will be the anti-Sam Kinnison route.

I appreciate you.

I appreciate you as a friend.

I appreciate what you're doing.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you both.

God bless Jamie Kilstein.