Best of the Program | Guests: Mark Levin & Amos Miller | 8/24/22

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Glenn and Stu go over some good news around the country, including the big wins conservatives had in Florida school districts. BlazeTV host of "LevinTV" Mark Levin joins Glenn to explain how the Espionage Act works. Pennsylvania Amish farmer Amos Miller joins to share how his farm is under attack by the FDA for refusing to abide by federal safety standards.
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We actually have a really good show and something that you really,

I think an interview with Amos Miller, the Pennsylvania Dutch farmer, took us weeks to get him on the phone, as you can imagine.

But I think it was really thought-provoking.

The The government is after him for not doing

USDA stuff.

And he says, no,

I'm not going to do it.

That's not the way God intended food to be done, to have your meat dipped in bleach, which, believe it or not, that's what we do with all of our meat.

And he says he's not going to do it.

Now he's got about $300,000 worth of fines mounting up.

And we talk to him about why he chose to do this.

It's fascinating.

Also, we correct a lie.

I would say it was a mistake, but it's not.

It's a lie from the New York Times.

I would deem it almost mal information at this point because they know exactly what they're doing about what the banks are preparing to do to you and have already started to do with ESG in Australia.

The New York Times denied that this was even a possibility, and lo and behold, it's now happening again.

Also, the weatherization of your home, something you really need to pay attention to.

And one of the most

casual conversations with Mark Levin I've ever

heard.

I think we caught him in his jammies.

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Oh, boy.

We have some good news for you.

If you look at what happened in the elections around the country, yesterday, Florida flipped multiple major school boards from liberal to conservative.

Huh?

Conservatives are taking back control of the public schools.

Florida school board elections have been a major political battleground this cycle.

Ron DeSantis went out and he was campaigning.

I mean, school board elections never used to get anybody to show up.

But with the primary elections in Florida, New York, and Oklahoma yesterday, Florida has general elections for school boards, meaning the winners will be official members of the boards.

Now, let me give you, in Sarasota County, the Sarasota County school board flipped from a 3-2 leftist majority to a 4-1 conservative majority.

That's amazing.

All three candidates won the election and they were endorsed by the 1776 project.

Oh, gee, the 1776 project.

What is that?

Oh, that's the first thing that Joe Biden got rid of.

Remember, they were the ones that gave the true history of America.

Oh, it's so dangerous.

It's telling the truth.

Anyway, they have a PAC, and Governor DeSantis also campaigned with these guys.

Clay County, the school board now has a 3-2 conservative majority after three conservative candidates won their election.

Let's see.

Duval County, city of Jacksonville, school board, which also encompasses the city of Jacksonville, also flipped conservative.

The Santisback candidates, Charlotte Joyce and April Carney, won their seats.

Joyce was re-elected.

Carney defeated the incumbent Elizabeth Anderson.

Anderson, who has been in the last few weeks, saying, Oh, these people, they're just to get black people.

And

now that wasn't obviously true, but she said any black person that is for anybody but me is a token.

Okay, we got it.

We got it.

She's gone.

Miami-Dade County, Miami-Dade School Board now flipped to conservative, making it the largest school district in the country with conservative majority boards.

That's phenomenal.

Phenomenal.

Martin County School Board flipped conservative.

All three 1776

project pack endorsed candidates winning their seats.

Many other school boards up for grab.

On Tuesday, Governor DeSantis made a campaign trail blitz.

By the way, there is also

I'm trying to think, make sure.

Moms for Liberty also was a conservative group that was out there really working hard and campaigning.

And there's another one, too, I can't find, but I'm sorry if I missed you because it is these conservative groups that are out there really working hard.

The school boards now that they flip seats and won several conservative majorities, Bay, Brevard, Clay, Duvall, Flager, Hernando, Hillsborough, Martin, Miami-Dade,

Okaloosa, Polk, Putnam, Sarasota.

That is phenomenal.

Phenomenal.

I really wanted to share really good news with you.

Christ

is now the Democratic gubernatorial gubernatorial primary candidate.

Good luck.

Let's see.

That one's an interesting one, too, in that, you know, he was running against a woman, Nikki Freed, who is seen as an

up-and-coming candidate in the AOC wing of the Democratic Party.

Now, Chris is obviously

the most transparently pathetic politician in American history as he just switches parties at any point to just run for random races and most of the time lose them.

But

this was seen on the Democratic side as do we want a hardcore progressive or do we want someone that maybe can convince some moderates to vote for

that?

But I don't think, I mean, I don't,

you know, all this stuff that is happening and you're seeing on national television, that's not the way it feels.

I'll show you in about a half an hour.

I'm going to correct a national story that I've been reading about for days.

We haven't had a chance to correct it, but I'm going to correct it today.

It's phenomenal, but the local people know what's going on.

So don't believe any of this,

any of this crap.

Let's see.

Ellen DeGeneres, her animated series aimed at preschools, has been canceled.

The it couldn't happen to nicer people.

In our section for that today, the New York Times Union accuses the paper of systemic racism in performance review.

It couldn't happen to a nicer group of people.

New York City freaking out because New York City says it's going to cost them $300 million a year to house immigrants in hotels.

Hmm.

Maybe you shouldn't be for open borders.

There's a new poll out.

Two out of three Americans favor public funding for pregnancy clinics.

Now, I read that.

And what are you thinking?

Say it, Stu.

That's good.

Well, I mean, you know, I mean, they're not wanting to burn them down, which at this point I think is good news.

Yeah, there's always a catch.

Okay.

There's always a catch.

Okay.

After survey participants were asked to read statements explaining the services.

That pregnancy centers would provide to women, prenatal care, housing, clothing, diapers, empowerment to choose life.

Overall support rose to 74%.

And this included a jump to 73% of Democrats.

Poll also

73% of Democrats.

They are so out of touch.

It's really incredible.

Yet every news broadcast will tell you how these people should be deleted from the internet, how they are.

They're now being tracked by Google.

They're now being flagged or not by Yelp.

Elizabeth Warren wants to make it illegal to have a pregnancy center, which is fascinating because one of the comebacks when it comes to abortion from the left is, oh, you guys want all these babies to be born.

Well, what about helping out the mothers with care then?

I guess we have to help them with prenatal care and we have to give them all these services.

And we're all like, yeah, that would be great.

We accept your terms.

We would absolutely love to help with that.

And that's what crisis pregnancy centers are.

So, yeah.

And then they want those, as soon as you say that, then they want them to be closed down.

I don't understand how those two things work together.

So you also have some news from the 2024 presidential general election.

Some polls have been run.

Donald Trump, 40%.

Joe Biden, 32%.

Liz Cheney, 11%.

This is if Liz Cheney is in.

Now listen to this.

19% of those polls said Cheney should run for president, compared with 51 who said she should not.

I'm all for her running for president.

Among Democrats, 30% said she should run.

10% of Republicans said the same thing.

Now,

why am I for her running?

Because it brings support for Biden down from 46% to 32%.

And Trump's support goes from 42 to 40.

So the people voting for Cheney are coming from.

the left.

Yes, yes.

What a surprise.

It is interesting.

I am mildly surprised.

It's that dramatic, actually.

I am too.

That's a lot.

That's a really big margin.

But you know what?

That shows me that the Democrats, our neighbors who vote Democrat, are not for this crazy crap.

They're not.

They want somebody like Lynn Cheney.

Remember.

Or Liz Cheney.

Liz Cheney.

Remember, they voted for Joe Biden because he was just going to bring back normalcy.

He was in the middle.

He's going to be normal.

Right.

This is not normal.

Right.

No.

None of this is normal.

No.

And they, so that's, it is interesting.

A good chunk of them are saying that this is happening.

This probably means she's not going to run as an independent.

Right.

Her point, her point here is she's going to calculate this to see how she can hurt Donald Trump the most.

I don't know that there's any way for her to actually hurt Donald Trump in this.

Even if she, I mean, if she runs at a Republican, she'll just get smoked.

Right.

So I don't know what path she has other than taking a bunch of money and running ads against Donald Trump, which is probably where this ends up.

And I don't know.

I honestly don't know how a Democrat could vote for her because she's getting a lot of funding if she runs for president from the Koch brothers.

At least it's hard to get it from both of them at this point.

I mean, the Koch brothers are powerful, but the donations from Beyond the Grave are difficult.

I just love that it is the Koch brothers that are funding.

It's the foundation.

It's the foundation.

That is funding.

A lot of this.

Yeah, a lot of this, which, huh, I thought they were hardcore conservatives that were just as crazy and as dangerous as stalin you've forgotten the rule glenn which is whatever argument is available to you that will help you at that moment you make it correct that is what our politics are right now and let me show you how well it's going to work out

in the file

we told you so

comes this story.

Less than a full month after it was announced that Senator Joe Manchin came to an agreement with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer in order to get the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act passed, that deal may already be falling apart.

The deal that took place between Manchin and Schumer, as well as the Biden and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, assured Manchin that there would be separate methods approved that would involve permits for energy infrastructure, including gas pipelines, and there would also be new lease sales for oil drilling on federal lands.

But it doesn't seem like everybody's on board now.

Huh.

You know what?

Who is that dope that voted was the deciding vote for Obamacare?

And he said, I just want to make sure I negotiated so no money would ever go for abortions.

Oh,

I remember how stupid you were.

Well, it looks like Joe Manchin did the same thing.

Apparently,

Tom Carper from Delaware says he's reserving judgment for now.

Tom Carper sure doesn't sound sold on permitting the deal of Chuck Schumer with Joe Manchin.

While Carper's highlighted remarks begin sounding hopeful enough, there's still room for concern.

I'm confident we'll find some areas where we agree.

There will probably be some areas where we don't agree.

I'm not sure the vehicle, but I feel confident we'll get to that.

At the end of the day, I just don't want us to make the changes in permitting that will undermine our ability to fight climate change, he said.

Huh.

Wow.

I guess that is what happens when you make a deal with the devil.

Can we just bring up Bart Stupak?

That's it.

You have not thought of that name in a long time, but he was very famously the guy who said, I'm holding the line on abortion funding.

I will not vote for Obamacare unless they promise me none of this will happen.

And of course,

they promised him, and he voted for it, and it passed, and they did it anyway.

Hmm.

Do the voters remember him?

Is he still in Congress?

Oh, no, I don't think so.

Yeah.

Bart Stupak.

Yeah.

I think the people of West Virginia.

It's a perfect name for someone to fall for that scheme.

Bart Stupak.

I think.

He was out in 2011.

He lasted a few months.

Wow.

And then he was toast.

I think Joe Manchin's going to face the same kind of thing.

This is going to devastate West Virginia.

Oh, please, please, West Virginia.

We beg of you here.

We love you, West Virginia.

You voted for Donald Trump by 39 points, and you keep sending this horror show to the Senate.

This guy who sits here and does this every

single

time.

Every time he tells us he's going to be Mr.

Tough Guy and hold the the law.

He's a moderate after all.

And then every time

he does the same thing, he acts as if he's tough so he can he can fool you into voting for him.

And then he does this crap every single time.

He is a fraud.

And a state, yeah, I can, you want to say Joe Manchin.

Oh, he's from Illinois.

You might say, okay, wow, I got a somewhat moderate guy from Illinois.

West Virginia voted for Donald Trump by 39 points.

There is no reason for you to send this disaster to Washington over and over again.

Please stop this.

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So do you ever feel like you haven't accomplished anything?

I mean, when you hear what other people have done, do you ever get the feeling like, I am such a slug?

Mark Levin, nationally syndicated talk radio host, host of Levin TV, chairman of Landmark Legal Foundation, host of the Fox News show Life, Liberty, and Levin, author of six consecutive number one New York Times bestsellers.

Liberty and Tyranny spent three months at number one, sold more than 1.5 million copies.

American Marxism, I think, was the number one best-selling book of the year.

He's also an inductee of the National Radio Hall of of Fame, top advisor to several members of President Ronald Reagan's cabinet.

He holds a B.A.

from Temple University, a J.D.

from Temple University Law School, and he's

on the program now to make me feel like a slug.

Hello, Mark Levin.

How are you?

Why are you reading all that?

Just looking you up and just seeing all the things that you've accomplished.

And then I started feeling bad, so I stopped reading.

Don't go to Wikipedia.

That'll make you happy.

So, Mark,

I wanted to, we're doing a special tonight on the FBI and how out of control justice and the FBI

are.

And

they've been this way for a long time.

I mean, they were started and they were, when they started, they were corrupt.

But

we're seeing things with

Donald Trump that should scare people to the core.

And I don't think the average Democrat, who's not a Marxist, doesn't understand what is happening right now.

Well, first of all, they need to understand how corrupt their party is because the FBI has been used by Democrat president after Democrat president in illegal ways, really starting with Franklin Roosevelt.

He used the FDR against his political opponents, including within his own party.

And they would collect dirt on his political opponents.

He would use the IRS the same way, which is why adding 87,000 agents is a disaster.

Disaster.

He unleashed the IRS on Andrew Mellon, who had been the Treasury Secretary under Coolidge.

Even the judge at the very end was wondering why he had this 10-year criminal investigation because

his Treasury Secretary ordered it at FDR's demand.

And

he used the FBI

against a number of individuals and groups, including the media.

Robert Kennedy did the same thing with John Kennedy.

They used the FBI to tap Martin Luther King's phone,

among others.

And of course, he used the IRS to collect data on his political opponents.

Probably the worst was Lyndon Johnson.

He used the FBI, the IRS, and the CIA.

He even bugged Hubert Humphrey's phone when Hubert Humphrey was running for president in the Democrat primary.

First, he used it.

He wanted to see if he was loyal or not.

He used the FBI, he sent an FBI team to Atlantic City at the Democrat convention there to monitor Martin Luther King and other civil rights leaders to see if they were going to be attacking him, Lyndon Johnson, even though he wasn't running again.

And then, of course, Nixon got caught doing some of the same things they did, but not nearly as much, but it didn't matter because he was a Republican.

This attack on Trump is akin to the same pattern, but worse.

It is constant.

It's through his candidacy, his presidency, his post-presidency.

As you undoubtedly know by now, you had two brilliant litigators, constitutional litigators, not these former federal prosecutors who are dim at dust and don't even understand the Constitution.

And they made the point in the Wall Street Journal the other day, and they're right, that the Presidential Records Act allows a president to have access to classified and non-classified information.

There's nothing in there about

where he can store it.

He can bring it home if he wants, and that's what he did.

I've been arguing the president can't violate the Espionage Act.

How can I violate the Espionage Act of 1917?

When he's president, he says, all right, I'm taking these documents with me.

You can't have a clearer statement of declassification than I'm taking these documents with me.

But even if they're not declassified, as these gentlemen point out, it doesn't matter.

In fact, he has exclusive use of these documents.

Even the existing president can't just claim those documents unless they have an absolute significant reason to.

So

they came out with, I mean, I think it was a general warrant, but they came out with this warrant.

And then we started hearing that it's nuclear secrets and it's, you know, espionage, all this bull crap.

What is it that they were really looking for?

And

how do we shake off the chains of this government that is this corrupt

well they wanted to grab everything

and so they cut

wait wait wait where you're you're breaking up I'm sorry say it again

I'm sorry the damn phone fell yeah that's all right when I had this home in Florida I'll just tell you in the country

it's like a box remember those old movies yes the cement and the steel and everything else I said to the builder I'm only building this damn thing once I don't care how many hurricanes we have here and i don't care about sema right well they said the rules in the state are 170 miles an hour you have to go i said but the state isn't building my house 210 miles an hour that's what i want the house sustained so i poured all the money into the structure i'm just pointing this out so i have eight inch thick cement steel walls and floors it doesn't look like it and tilings underneath so we had to add additional systems so i could use my cell phone but there's certain dead spots in this house.

Anyway, do you hear me okay now?

I do.

I do.

What was your question again?

My question is, what do you think they were looking for?

And how do we shake the chains of this government that is so corrupt and out of control, it seems like we're cornered?

Well, a couple of things.

You're right about the general warrant.

This clearly violates the Fourth Amendment and the particularity requirement, which was crucial to the colonists and to the framer.

If it doesn't violate it, I don't know what does.

And so they walk in there and they grab everything.

I think they're looking for anything.

January 6th, of course, I've talked about that.

I'm sure you have.

Anything they can get their hands on.

And now they find, and they knew there were classified documents in there, so they're trying to use criminal statutes on that.

You bring in these hacks like Weissman and put them on TV and very ignorant low IQ hosts and news people who just keep talking about, he's got 700 pages of documents, classified, 300 classified documents.

Who cares?

Who cares?

And of course, the reason the government doesn't want to release the affidavit is they prefer to leak this stuff to the New York Times and the Washington Post in order to control it.

Now, what do we do about this?

You're not going to like this.

We are in the abyss trying to claw our way out.

It's not we're heading for the abyss.

It's not that the country is unraveling.

It's unraveled.

And so the question is now,

how do we deal with a political party that hates America, that takes every step possible to empower itself,

that only uses the Constitution to defend itself or against their enemies, but otherwise has

no respect or faith in the Constitution whatsoever.

And how do we defend ourselves and fix it by not becoming all that we despise and using the Constitution?

How can we do that?

You've got to elect people, if not Trump, like Trump, who are willing to take them on, who can stand up to this.

This is why so many people are attracted to him.

I know.

It's because he doesn't bend.

He fights back.

He fights back.

They try and take him out with impeachments and criminal investigations, DA investigations, state attorney investigations, tax investigations, property investigations.

Now this crap with his home and his wife's closet and all the rest of it.

That's why we have to defend him.

Whether you like tweets or not is beside the point.

Because if they take him down, who's going to fight for us?

Seriously, maybe DeSantis, don't you think, would do the same thing?

I think DeSantis would do the same thing, but I will tell you, the only one that has been tested in literally the fires of hell is Trump.

That's exactly what I'm going to do.

And honestly, what did he do to deserve this?

Nothing.

Absolutely nothing.

He hasn't broken the law.

If he's broken the law, don't you think they'd have him by now?

Rather than running around with obstruction and looking back at his property taxes 10 years ago and his income taxes 15 years ago, this is just all cracked.

Nobody's examined like this.

Imagine looking at the Pelosi taxes for 10 or 15 years or looking at the Biden seriously, how he's been bought off by foreign governments.

None of these politicians could withstand this, but Trump withstands it.

Talking to the great one, Mark Levin, now five minutes extra with Mark Levin.

It's always a good day.

Mark, I'm really frustrated

because if we don't get the House and the Senate, there's almost nothing that the House can do except, you know, block people like Nancy Pelosi and shut everything out.

But they can't actually reverse anything, can they?

Constitutionally, if we only have the House, what can we accomplish?

Well, we can stop things, you're right, but we can't move the ball forward.

And in the Senate, we also have another problem, in addition to the filibuster, which I happen to support.

We have Mitch McConnell, who is in and of himself a filibuster against conservatives.

You might remember in 2010 how he hated the Tea Party movement.

Oh, yeah.

He still does.

Well, he hates the MAGA movement.

In 1976 and 80, he was a Gerald Ford guy, and he was never really a Reagan guy.

He worked in the Ford Justice Department briefly.

This guy is quintessential Washington rhino.

And just ask yourself, what are the Republicans running on in the Senate?

You don't even know.

Because they haven't coalesced around a message because the guy's not a leader, but he raises a ton of of money.

They changed the law a few years back.

And he controls the money for all the other senators.

Yes, he does.

And so he controls the National Republican Senatorial Committee, which can take in hundreds of thousands of dollars per donor.

Used to be a limit of 30-some thousand.

He put a rider on, I think it was Obamacare or something like that, and he changed that to empower himself.

He has no capacity to communicate with the average American, the American people.

He always talks like he has a salami sandwich in his mouth or something.

You know,

I want to ask you, you said you were for the filibuster.

I'm for the filibuster.

However, I would be for changing the filibuster back to the way it originally was, where it was Mr.

Smith goes to Washington.

You actually have to stand on the floor and filibuster.

Now, the Republican or the Democrats, if I'm not mistaken, changed it so you can just say, I'm going to filibuster, and everybody goes home.

Well, that's true.

They threaten to filibuster.

I don't know how we change that since the Senate can make its own rules.

We can't even change the Republican leader in the Senate right now.

And I think that's the start.

We've got to have

younger, newer, vibrant people who come to Washington, know their terms are limited, and act as their purpose.

He's walking around again.

Defense or all, yeah.

We're always playing defense, or we're always on

backs are against the wall.

These guys, they come in, they have,

or they, you know, like in a Senate.

One second.

Get away from the concrete and the metal.

Oh, it's FedEx.

I have to.

Okay.

You want to know the truth.

I love Dark.

And as a matter of fact, they now require your birthday.

Every damn time, it's the same person who shows up.

They want my birthday.

You know, it used to be you could say, just leave the box.

Now it's, I want your signature, your birthday.

What the hell is it?

Anyway.

All right, last thing.

Last thing, because I've only got about a minute.

Last thing.

How are you, what are you seeing coming, reading the tea leaves, especially from last night?

What are you seeing in the House and the Senate?

First First of all, I see media get so loaded with propaganda.

They find this seat in

New York, and they say, this is indicative and illustrative of everything that's happening.

So the Democrat wins by the skin of their teeth.

You look around the rest of the country, the Republicans did very well.

You look in Florida, they did extremely well.

Conservatives are doing well.

People need to keep their chin up.

They have to ignore the media.

Ignore them.

They're corrupt.

They hate us.

And fight and organize and be your own precinct worker and block captain.

You've got to work harder than ever before.

They're going to do everything they can to stop us.

But don't be dispirited or demoralized by these fools in the media because that's what they'll do to you.

Mark Levin.

We have a very good shot at doing very well.

But we'll see.

Thank you so much, Mark.

I appreciate it.

We'll talk again soon.

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So I have no idea how this interview is going to go.

Amos Miller is a man we've tried to get on for several weeks, but he is a Pennsylvania Dutch Amish farmer.

And you might have heard about him, his farm.

Some say was raided by the feds.

He's facing thousands in fines.

Some people say no, he's not under attack by an out-of-control government.

He's just

refusing to comply with the laws.

I don't know what the real answer is, but hopefully he can clear things up and tell us why

he is

not agreeing to government regulations on food.

Amos Miller, how are you, sir?

I'm doing fine, thank you.

Good.

It's good to talk to you.

Thank you for taking time out of your day.

I wanted to

first understand

you are not having your meat

USDA graded and in a slaughterhouse that the USDA oversees.

And then also you

are not pasteurizing your milk.

But it's my understanding on the pasteurization that you actually have to be a member of a kind of like a club to be able to buy your products, right?

So everybody is well informed what the risks are.

Is that right?

That's correct.

We created a private membership association.

Okay, and so, and everybody knows if I buy milk from you, I know I could get listeria because it's not pasteurized.

And that's clear, right?

Yes.

They want to take their health in their own hands.

Okay.

And why is it that you won't do these things?

It's not that you're anti-government, is it?

That's correct.

That's correct.

I uh we need government to a certain degree.

It's that when

when our members and myself can't make choices of what I think is healthy for for my body

and I have to possibly rely on meat that is possibly

sprayed with citric acid, label is not labeled that way, the package is not.

And

I prefer, our members prefer to make the direct connection with the farmer that they can trust because for various reasons

if they do

add a solution onto the chicken or the turkeys, which is a required thing by USDA.

They have to have an intervention plan in place.

And most places they use citric acid or

some type of bleach to kill the bacteria.

And our members would rather be exposed to

bacteria rather than being exposed to those bleaches.

I know I have a friend who is Scottish and he came over and he has a problem with the meat here.

He's like, you guys everything in bleach.

I mean, it's craziness.

Yes, yes, indeed.

And they don't have to label the package that way.

So

was this a raid on your farm?

Because they say that

they tried to make a deal with you and you just won't play by

the rules, which apparently they say you agreed to.

Is that true or not?

Well,

they made me, they had tagged about 36,000 pounds of meat a year or two ago under duress so I can have it back and supply it back to my members, which I was grateful that I was able to get it back to the members.

The members were very appreciative of that.

But when all was said and done,

it's not that big of a deal to possibly go halfways.

That is by working with the meat regulations and so forth.

But the thing is that

they can change laws tomorrow and then you don't know, you don't have control over that, and it's hard to supply our members with

good

food if because of the regulations.

And the meat is not that big of a deal.

It's then when they come and say,

well, you can't have this raw milk on the shelf or you can't have the raw chee raw cheese or the butter, which is basically basically

you can't provide that

unless you have

an agreement or something because they ban raw butter, they ban raw milk.

That's when we have a problem abiding by the rules and regulations because our members are well educated that they know raw milk from grass-fed cows.

Raw butter from grass-fed cows is an important

bodybuilder to build strong bone structure.

And what is it that is taken out in the pasteurization that

makes that so it's not as healthy?

Well, the goal is that the to kill all the um

bad bacteria in the milk, but the uh uh if you do that you also kill the good bacteria, so it's harder to to break down the body.

It's like a foreign thing to the body because there's no good bacteria to help break down the milk.

And that's maybe why there's so many people sensitive to uh milk.

So they have

themselves, they come back and they want raw milk because it helps build good bacteria in the gut and it helps break down other foods as well.

Is this part of your faith at all to grow food the way you do and to eat the food you do?

That's a very good question.

I was raised on a farm.

I enjoyed to be on the farm.

And my father taught me very good lessons in becoming a good farmer.

He has tried to avoid from

the day that I was born to stay away from chemicals, GMOs,

and he has left a very good example.

And

as the things are going nowadays is that

there are many diseases out there.

diabetes, heart problems, cancer, arthritis, autism.

And my goal is

to get nutrient-dense foods out to the people.

See if we can change this,

whatever you want to call it, the diseases that we are dealing with, change that around.

We have many, many children with birth defects.

My heart breaks to see those children suffer like that.

My goal and my passion is to help

my

neighbor,

to help them build their bodies so the temple of God can live within them.

Amos, I think there's a lot of people in America right now that in some ways wish

they lived

much more like you do.

The world has truly gone insane

and we are losing all of our principles, all of the Judeo-Christian values that we've always had and based our lives upon.

When you look outside of your community,

what does it look like to you?

Well, my heart goes out to those people because they are, could I say, almost innocent.

They haven't had the opportunity to be raised on the farm from day one.

So they're basically innocent.

But my goal would be is when

you,

and that's kind of coming with the next generation.

They are seeing that modern medicine is might not be the key.

It's not the answer.

It's going back and getting nutrition from the food, from grass-fed animals, and getting that into their children so the minds can stay healthy.

The children feel vigorous and they want to sustain their life.

And then when you sustain your life, you want to sustain nature so you can thrive naturally.

So my goal is to help people get good minds through good nutrition and hopefully that they can accept God for for as their Creator and believe and trust in Him and they can they want to take care of the land.

That is our calling on this on this earth, is to

h help God's creation.

Take care of the animals.

It's it's the the book of Moses talks about that.

That is our duty and and take care of the gardens and sustain nature.

And God is pleased with that mindset.

And that is my goal to help as much as I possibly can.

Amos,

there is a big movement all over the world now to get rid of meat and not eat meat.

What is your thought on that?

That is a very

scary idea.

For one thing, it would be against God's plan.

God has created animals and he actually said that this is for your

for

your nourishment.

And

it's part of nature.

So if you put away with the animals, the animals actually are a very important circle of our creation.

They go out there, they harvest the feed, and themselves, if you allow them to do that, they eat it and they they poop it back out,

which is a scary word to the city people, but it's part of nature.

And that goes down to the ground and then the microbes, the earthworms, and that's their meal.

So the better we take care of the microbes in the soil, the earthworms, the more they can populate and make better topsoil and that helps to sustain

the

soil of nature.

If we continue to only grow corn and soybeans and we don't feed the microbes, we will hit a wall where nature can no longer be sustained.

Amos Miller, he is a Pennsylvania Dutch Amish farmer.

He

is facing thousands of dollars in fines.

I believe you're facing about $300,000 worth of fines.

I imagine that is an insurmountable amount.

Is there a way if people want to get in touch with you or buy some of your food or help you out with your legal fees?

Is there a way to do that?

Yes.

One of our coordinators has set up a Give Send Go account.

And I don't have that information, but hopefully we can get it to the

I will find it.

I don't think I have it here, but one of my producers will look that up.

I appreciate that.

Thank you.

You bet.

Amos, thank you so much.

God bless you.

You too.

Thank you all.

Pray for us.

Bye-bye.

Oh, we will.

Thank you.

Bye-bye.

I will tell you, I lived in Pennsylvania, and the Amish are some of the most remarkable people I have ever met.

And you may not like the way they live.

You may not, you know, look at God the same way that they do.

But

I wish we were more like them myself.

And

if you want to do with your body what you want to do, and if you're in a club that says, hey, I could get listeria from drinking this milk,

that's your choice.

That is your choice.

And we are moving away from that.

And that is extraordinarily dangerous for people like you and Amos and people who don't believe in anything.

It is dangerous for all of us.

The citizen, the citizen is paramount, the individual is paramount,

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