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So, Stu, I think we have to start with the audio of Lynn Cheney, or sorry, Liz Cheney

in her speech last night.

Unfortunately, it wasn't a victory speech, but she's going to go on.

Listen, here she is.

The great and original champion of our party, Abraham Lincoln, was defeated in elections for the Senate and the House before he won the most important election of all.

Lincoln ultimately prevailed.

He saved our Union.

And he defined our obligation as Americans for all of history.

I think she just compared herself to Abraham Lincoln.

I'm not sure what her point was there other than, and I'm like Abraham Lincoln.

And so I'm launching my presidential campaign.

I mean, I don't know what she was doing.

And, you know, in all honesty, she has a lot in Abraham Lincoln.

Imagine Abraham Lincoln without the beard.

Now, Cheney.

You see it?

You see it?

Not particularly.

No, I can't say that I do.

No.

You're right.

That's mean.

It's just the wart that

is the same.

But anyway.

So I'm kind of sad, Stu.

We don't have

old Liz Cheney to kick around anymore.

Carnet.

Yeah, you know, it was an interesting approach.

One of the strangest elections probably of all time.

As we kind of noted a little bit yesterday, you know, Liz Cheney voted for Donald Trump in 2020.

People forget this.

She voted for Donald Trump in 2020.

She was

then

obviously turned against him and said the stuff that he did after the election she didn't like, but then survived a Republican leadership leadership vote after all of this, and then still kept talking about it, and then eventually was thrown out of leadership and has become the enemy and was

elected, was defeated handily by

an opponent who Glenn was so anti-Trump in 2016 that she was among the people organizing the overturning of the primary on the convention floor.

in 2016 to get Ted Cruz to be the candidate instead of Trump.

And she's come so far the other way that she's now the pro-Trump candidate.

And

Cheney, who voted for Trump in 2020, is now the anti-Trump candidate and lost by 40 points.

It is like all of our beds are on the edge of a wormhole.

Every day we get out of bed, we put our feet on the floor, and we, we just like, it's like a water slide.

Shoom, we're into another America that is kind of like the one we were in yesterday.

Yeah.

I can't keep track of it.

It's so weird.

And, you know, so the final was 66 to 29, basically, about what I think people expected going into this.

There were some crossover votes from Democrats, but again, not enough of them in Wyoming to make any particular difference.

And so

it was a blowout.

Chaney is already on to her next thing.

As we said yesterday, you could tell it was a blowout because the way the media was covering it.

It was talking about how she's got more to her than this.

This is just one bump in the road of a longer journey.

And she leaked this to every single reporter

in the mainstream media to tell that, you know, look, this isn't a big deal.

She doesn't care about this.

It's the next thing that's the big deal.

I did think it was a little much when she started singing My Heart Will Go On.

That's true.

You know, she is trying to make herself into this.

This is a martyr type of period here for her, I suppose.

Yeah.

And it's, it's, it's a strange one.

You know, I was talking to someone who follows politics, but not like super closely.

And he's just like, look, you know, I don't know anything about Liz Cheney other than she doesn't like Trump.

You know, and it's like,

this is her problem here.

It's not that you can't disagree with Trump.

It's not like you can't have your own opinion.

But when you dedicate your entire life to be obsessed with one individual,

you're going to be defined as to how people in your state feel about that individual.

And when it comes to Donald Trump, people in Wyoming like him quite a bit.

Yeah.

You know, here's the, here's the amazing thing is, um,

my

problem with, with her is, like you said, she was all in

in 2020.

Okay.

She was all in in 2020.

And then he does his thing on January 6th, which he didn't cause.

He didn't do any, but I didn't like the way he acted on January 6th.

I just saw, I thought, like, hey, Mr.

President, get on TV right now and say stop.

And, and, you know, on the day, I was really, really pissed.

And I'm like, what are you doing?

And

then I kind of got over it.

You know, you know what I mean?

He wasn't responsible.

So I kind of went, I didn't like that, but I'm not going to dedicate my life to destroying him because that's kind of a, I don't know, psychotic break.

It might be a little manic in its approach to life.

It's like going to going someplace where you've had, you know, good meals and you've recommended the place, and then you have one meal that's cold and you set out to destroy it.

I want their license revoked.

I want them out of business.

I want to burn their business down and I want to piss on their ashes.

That's really what it's like.

Yeah, it's weird.

I mean, look, I think we've certainly asked for this over the years.

Politicians who believe in something that's not popular to stand up for it.

I have no problem embracing that general vibe.

And

a lot of people are saying, you know, I don't know.

I think she genuinely seems to believe this now.

I don't know what.

It's hard to understand that from someone who voted for the guy, right?

Like, you know, it's one thing if you really thought he was a terrible president for four years and then you say, okay,

this is pushing me over the edge.

I have to stop him in any way possible.

You're someone who wanted four more years of this guy, right?

Up until the actual election, right?

I don't think she is.

I think she is someone who held her nose and said all the right things.

And at the first opportunity to kniv him, she did.

I really, you cannot make it.

It's psychotic, Stu.

That's a psychotic swing.

It really is.

It really is.

I mean, it was a big event, right?

I mean, there's certainly no,

it did change some people's minds, I suppose.

But I mean, I think overall, when you, when you look at it, it's it's like I don't think she did this because she thought it was going to help her win this election.

I think she had to have known going into this, this would have made her political life more difficult.

So if she really believes it, let her go out and do this.

But along with that come the consequences from voters, and voters don't agree with you.

You know, the Republican voters in Wyoming think what you're doing is, you know, completely wrong.

And they sent a massive message.

The turnout was huge yesterday.

But I I think, Stu, I mean, think of this strategically.

I think a humiliating and devastating loss puts you right where you need to be to launch a presidential campaign.

Don't you think?

Don't you think?

Let me ask Beto O'Rourke.

Hold on one second.

I'll get him on the phone.

Betto's like, There's somebody out there who gets it.

Hold on, Stacey Abrams.

She's online too.

No, it's true.

It doesn't make, I don't, don't, like, the bigger thing here is what is the constituency for a Liz Cheney presidency?

She basically runs the state of Wyoming and her family runs the state of Wyoming, and she got 29% of the vote there.

So what is the constituency other than the possibility of her running as an independent candidate to

shave votes from Donald Trump and what?

Give the presidency to Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom or whoever else is running.

I mean, if that's the strategy, which I don't see what the alternative is there, I don't think that there's any, I don't think there's any other path for her to make an impact.

That's a strategy that does not support someone who does have a relatively conservative voting record over her career.

She's going to be brave and she's going to take that stage with Donald Trump.

And he's there.

That's what she's doing.

She's going to be the one that takes him on, and she will last all of about 45 seconds.

Okay.

She will, he will pummel her.

Oh, that'll be ugly.

He's done it to

every

single person.

He'll pummel her.

He'll pummel her.

And then she'll really be set up for a presidential run.

I mean, look, there's no

audience for this is not how you would win a primary.

There's no one that's going to come in to the Republican primary and take a stance like Liz Cheney is taking and win.

You can take a stance and say, hey, I'm different than Donald Trump in these ways.

I don't like the way he did X, Y, and Z.

But to come in and just say, this man is Satan is not, there's no way to win a primary doing that.

No.

So here's where I think

I could have tolerated.

I could have tolerated, and maybe the people of Wyoming would have as well.

I don't know.

I don't, you know, I don't live in Wyoming.

But

I think if you had, if you were with Donald Trump and then you, you know, something happened on, you know, January 6th and you're like, okay, that was really bad.

You'd handle it like everybody that I know who was a Donald Trump supporter or is a Donald Trump supporter.

They were really angry that day.

And now they're to the point of, I didn't like how he handled January 6th.

I just don't like it.

It really bothered me.

And it still bothers me.

But, you know,

he's, you know, it's Donald Trump and he's going to do what he does.

And, you know, while that bothers me, he either is the candidate or isn't the candidate for me.

And if he, if they would have said, look, if she would have said, look, I was for Donald Trump.

I was with him the whole time.

And

I love him, just loved him.

But then instead of going psycho over it, I decided just to come out and say, guys, I'm not sure if he is the guy for the next election.

He was great in the time, but he may not be the right guy because, you know,

he

stirs it up every time.

And we need somebody a little more calm than Donald Trump.

And, you know, he stirs it up.

And I don't know, but it should be left up to the people.

Is this the best way to defeat this

socialist Marxism?

It might be, but I think maybe,

you know, Ron DeSantis would be better.

Okay.

I think those conversations are happening, but those conversations are not, you know, I really, really liked him.

Now he's got to be destroyed.

Right, right.

Right?

Yeah, no, it's true.

It's interesting because, you know, obviously we do, I have a lot of guests that come on this show on Studios America.

I go on other podcasts all the time.

And one of the, I think, the most, I'm always interested to ask guests and and people who are other hosts, commentators in the conservative world, who do you want?

Who do you want?

And I'm mostly interested to ask people who are Trump supporters, people who love Donald Trump, who are with him the whole time, who would walk through a wall of fire to vote for this guy in 2020.

What do you want in 2024?

Who would you prefer?

Do you want Trump to run again?

Do you want it to be someone like DeSantis?

And all of these people that I've asked have been, if Trump is the nominee, I'm 100% on board, right?

Like, there's no, they're totally on that, on that realm.

But I would say the answers have been about 50-50.

About 50% want Trump to run.

He's the guy.

He's the only guy for this time period.

About 50% are just like, look, I love Trump.

He's the best.

If he's the one nominee, great, fine, I'm fine with it.

But like, honestly, if I had a preference, I'd rather have someone like DeSantis because I don't, there's too much baggage already built into that package.

And so

it's not a slightly on Donald Trump.

And I don't know the people like Lynn Cheney.

I do know people.

I mean, I was here in Utah.

I'm in Salt Lake City.

I did a speech last night on ESG.

I'll tell you about that.

There's some ESG news today.

But I'm here and I talked to some

real heavy Republican heavy hitters.

And they all said the same thing.

They were all like, look, I'm all in.

I'd even raise money for Donald Trump.

And I have and I will.

But if he would not run,

I think that might be a better path because the temperature would be lowered.

And

I just wish we could lower the temperature on things.

And

then they always followed it up with, but if he runs, I'm 100% in.

It's this weird thing.

The Lynn Cheney thing doesn't exist.

Liz.

I really don't think it exists.

I mean, it's probably Lynn too.

I think they have the same feelings on the issue, but I think they're talking about Liz.

But you don't think that Dick has the same feelings, do you?

I do believe he got a commercial for her on that

front.

I know.

It's shocking.

You know, it's interesting, too, because you have basically the last two eras of Republican politics on the ballot last night, in a way, right?

With Liz Cheney kind of continuing the Bush-Cheney vibe, and then Sarah Palin, who kind of came up during that Tea Party era, and, you know, sort of converted more to maybe a more MAGA character, if you want to separate those two movements.

But still, an interesting thing last night.

And she, you know, the way the Alaska election works, we're not going to know who wins that for a while, but it's kind of interesting to see what she's going to do.

She is going to be on the ballot.

Yeah.

Here's the,

well, you know, most likely.

Here's the last word.

What was at stake last night was, are we going to to go back to the Bush kind of Republicans?

Are we going to stick with the,

you know, the

tried and true?

Gosh, we're going to compromise and work together on this and we'll always lose every compromise.

Or are we charting a new course?

And I think most voters last night, at least in Wyoming, were like, I don't want this anymore.

I'm tired of the kind of George Bush approach to globalism and America.

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Stu Media Matters are very upset with me.

Oh, no.

Very upset.

Yes.

Terrible.

They're usually on your side on almost every issue.

Right, right.

George Soros and I are like this.

Media Matters, quote, the right-wing influencers leading a social media crusade against ESG.

Oh, no.

Now,

let's just look at this.

First of all, I want you to remember the right-wing influencers who are leading a social media crusade.

Now, it's an interesting word to use, crusade, because that implies religious zeal.

Okay?

Elon Musk called ESG a scam.

Wait a minute.

I just want to make sure I have it.

Right-wing influencers leading us.

Elon Musk called ESG a scam.

So Elon Musk, the guy who runs the largest electric car company in the world and is building spaceships partially to escape global warming, is a right-wing influencer.

No.

I'm talking about the guy who's all of that plus was dating a Marxist.

Oh, okay.

That one.

Totally a right-wing influencer there, Glenn.

Yeah.

So ESG, according to Media Matters, listen to this.

I think I'm going to have this blown up and framed.

ESG is attracting more and more attention from right-wing media influencers like Elon Musk, Glenn Beck, and James Lindsay.

I love

those two.

That's a good grouping.

I'm like, they feel bad today.

They're like, oh, you had to throw Glenn Beck in it.

Yeah.

But I'm feeling pretty good.

They're part of a growing number of conservative media figures seizing on the opportunity to turn ESG into the next battleground in the culture wars.

In part by fitting it into the broader great reset conspiracy theory.

You did these guys.

Well, the one thing I like about this grouping of Elon Musk, Glenn Beck, and James Lindsay is I think for the first time, you can honestly say you're middle class.

I think in that grouping, you are.

Yes, middle class.

Yes, there you go.

Middle class Glenn is here.

Right.

And I also, because I never want to be the smartest man in the room, in that grouping, I'm nowhere close.

Oh, you're definitely the dumbest man in the room.

Yeah.

I'm the one that gets the drool cup when I walk in.

There you go.

So they're very upset, very, very upset, because ESG is being misleadingly cast as a tool for the elites to force a tyrannical agenda on unsuspecting Americans, specifically investors, as part of the far-right great reset conspiracy theory.

I don't know how you can call this a conspiracy theory anymore.

I mean, even the New York Times is now admitting that it's happening and they're upset because people are talking about it and they're against it.

It's not like that, it doesn't exist.

They're even saying, okay, it does exist.

And these crazy people are against it.

Yeah.

And the other thing that they keep writing about is that

these mean corporations are

branding stuff as ESG when in reality it's stuff they would have just already invested in and they're getting extra.

They're just

taking money from idiotic investors who think ESG is an important thing and then just investing in the stuff they were going to invest in anyway.

So they are very much aware that it is happening, and they're complaining about it, not in the way we're complaining about it.

It's not that it doesn't go far enough, of course, but still that's acknowledging that it exists.

Yeah.

And I will tell you that, I mean, it is truly remarkable.

Do you remember we released my book, what, in January on the Great Reset?

And remember, we talked just even days before we released the book.

Nobody is going to read this.

Nobody knows about this.

Nobody is going to pay any attention to this.

Is anyone going to buy this book?

We've gone from that

to now it is part of the zeitgeist in a lot of, in a lot of people's lives.

It's out there.

It is known.

It is known as a problem.

Still only about what?

40% of the American people have no idea what it is.

And I think about 30% of of the American people think they know what it is.

And I don't know what the number of people is that do actually know.

ESG

is always,

by the left, is always positioned as the free market.

What?

Conservatives, you're against the free market?

These are just companies making a decision.

And this ESG is just to help people make a decision when they're investing.

No, it's not.

You know it's not.

You know it's really bad when the left makes arguments like that.

We love the free market.

What are you talking about?

It's like when they say, well, we don't want anyone between the doctor and their patient.

It's like, oh, really?

In this one case, you don't?

Okay, I know what's going on here.

They all of a sudden become libertarians.

They're just children.

Yeah, exactly.

I know.

But that's the thing with ESG.

It's like, all of a sudden, they're just so supportive of the free market, they can't understand why anyone else would possibly oppose it.

You oppose it in every other instance.

So I think we're onto you on that point.

And the awareness here, I think, the rise in awareness is no small part because of the book, which sold a lot of copies.

You've talked about it a lot on the air, and it has grown, I think, in influence in conservative circles, certainly, and has now grown to a point where the awareness is more broad and general.

I mean, I think people do know about this, even if they don't know all the details.

They know that

there's something going on here, and it's not going to wind up working out well for the American people.

No, it's really not.

By the way, if you think that it's just a way to, you know, let people decide, you know, let me ask you, did you decide that we shouldn't drill for oil anymore?

Did you decide that oil is a thing of the past?

Did you decide that we should shut down the oil fields?

Did you decide that Exxon should

slow its growth by 20%?

Did you decide that?

Because your money did.

Your money is being held by places like

BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street.

They invest most of our retirement funds and you're losing money.

Boy,

an enterprising attorney would start to think to themselves, gee, I bet there's a class action lawsuit that could be had.

I bet I could sue a place like BlackRock.

Now, I'm not an attorney, so I don't know, but I bet I could find a lot of people.

Do you have melophysioma or whatever the hell that

you have leprosy?

Did you ever work with Glenn Beck?

You might be in for big money.

There's got to be somebody out there who is thinking,

you know, I think the mesophilioma thing is probably played out by this point.

Maybe, did you have your retirement fund managed by blackrock where they didn't tell you in advance that their their index their esg index which you were just placed into

did you

did did you lose money because it's underperforming the s p 500 and now they've come out and said yeah you could expect to lose you know maybe for the next 10 years oh

Well, I don't have a problem with that if I'm 55.

There is a class action lawsuit here.

However, the states are also taking action.

I am here in Utah where their treasurer,

Marlowe Oakes, is doing a great job so far on ESG.

And he's not going to invest the state's money.

into something that will kill the state and also not provide the best return on the investment for the for the people who have their pension through the state.

That has to be done.

It's happening in Arizona.

It is happening now in almost all of the red states.

That's half the country.

You choke their money off at Black Rock

and

there's a problem.

There's a real problem.

They didn't think that this would happen.

Now, just so you know,

if you think you're, you're on the right side, and I'm only my money in BlackRock because they don't have anything to do with the price of gasoline.

Let me tell you that BlackRock, which is very, they are the leader, literally the leader in ESG, right?

Environmental, social justice,

and governance, okay?

That means no more petrochemicals.

The S means social justice.

And

we've got to be kind to everybody who's different.

I mean,

let's not verbally behead people who are different.

And then governance: let's have a whole variety of people.

Do you have somebody who's transgender on your board of directors?

So, BlackRock is so

super, super, super

locked in to ESG that yesterday

they took a

$451.2.72 million investment.

So half a billion dollar investment from the government of Saudi Arabia.

Now,

why would Saudi Arabia put half a billion dollars into an investment fund that is not

outperforming, in fact, underperforming the SP 500?

Could it be that they like the idea that they are encouraging companies like Exxon to stop drilling for oil?

Could it be that they don't like the fact that we could be energy independent and not care about them anymore?

Is that possible?

Because I don't know about you, but I don't look at Saudi Arabia as a leader in the E

or the S

or the G.

You know,

they're kind of

the opposite in each category.

World's largest oil producer.

Okay, that E's out.

They jail or cane or kill homosexuals.

So the S is out.

I don't think they have a wide variety of people

in any of their businesses or government.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure BlackRock is talking out of their butt.

BlackRock doesn't mean a thing they're saying.

This is a sham.

ESG is not about the environment.

It's not about social justice.

It is not about any of it.

It is about power, control, and money.

But I can't wait to hear what BlackRock has to say of why their ESG investment firm is so happy to have half a billion dollars from Saudi Arabia.

That's like

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No, that doesn't, uh-uh, guys, I don't know.

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Dr.

Doom?

Dr.

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he was in

early 2008 going, hey, we're in for real trouble.

And he predicted it, and he was exactly right.

Now

he is predicting something else.

He said,

This economy is headed for unhinged inflation

and/or severe recession,

and it will be out of control and

a hard landing.

And he said

it's going to last

a very long time.

Long, protracted, severe.

So that's good news from Doriel Rubini.

Yeah.

I hope he's wrong this time.

Let's hope.

I do too, but he's not.

But,

you know, what he's not figuring in is the bill they signed yesterday, the Inflation Reduction Bill.

I know.

It's interesting.

Now that the bill is passed, I'm seeing all these mainstream media reports talking about how the Inflation Reduction Act obviously will not reduce inflation.

They're all admitting that now after it's passed, and we spent $740 billion.

Thanks for that.

Thanks for that.

You could have been critical about that as it was going through and maybe put pressure on them to at least change the name from a blatant lie.

Yeah, I think, though, that the CBO is very timely, you know, that they came out yesterday as the ink was still drying on the page and said, yeah,

much of the stuff in the bill, it's a lie.

It's really not going to do any of the things.

I mean, including protecting those who make under

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In fact, beginning with people who make $10,000 a year, yeah, you're going to get taxed.

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Coming up in just a minute, Catholics, apparently, according to The Atlantic, have now weaponized

the Rosary.

Yeah,

yeah,

yeah.

It's a dangerous, dangerous weapon.

The Rosary now kind of sets you off as a dangerous terrorist.

We'll give you all that.

The attack on Christianity and the labeling of half of our country as terrorists.

We begin there in 60 seconds.

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All right, real estate agents, I trust right now, with the economy being what it is.

By the way, they're saying that housing prices are going to fall by about 15%.

We're on the edge.

If you want to sell your house, probably now is the time.

I guess, you know, I mean, with the economy being what it is right now, may I suggest that maybe you think about moving someplace where you are surrounded by people who think like you?

I'm just saying,

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Even if you don't have an oxygen tank, it's probably safer than it is right now in America.

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So tonight on the Wednesday night special, I'm going to show you proof that America's heritage is not

white Christian nationalism.

And this is so important for you to understand because they are setting a giant trap for a lot of America.

You know, they signed the inflation reduction bill.

In fact, do we have that audio we just played

on the spokesperson at the White House

not really able to

explain why they called it the inflation reduction bill?

Here it is.

But if you passed a bill called the Fill Every Pothole Act, I mean, voters should expect you to fill every pothole.

I mean, so should voters measure the success of this bill on how much you reduce inflation in the next couple of years?

So

this bill spins out over several years.

And so the tax provisions, for example, some of the tax revenue will happen immediately.

Some of the benefits in terms of deficit reduction will materialize over time.

So again, this is really an investment in our economy.

It represents the president's economic vision for transitioning to an economy that works better for American families by generating the kind of growth that's based on stable, steady productivity gains in the language of economists.

So that kind of growth that we know we need to be making in order to ensure that we continue progressing for the decades to come.

Yeah, and a name is just a name, but there are definitely a lot of other names you could have named this belt.

We just lied.

It's so funny how you lied to the American people.

You lied and you raped us and you left us for dead.

Oh, that is funny.

Oh, that's so funny.

How you took a problem that's affecting real people and ruining their financial lives and you acted like you were addressing it.

You put a sign on the door that said safe safe space.

And we all went in and there were killers and rapists in the room.

That is funny that you put safe space on the door.

What a joy you are.

Oh, my gosh, these people are evil.

Anyway,

the CBO came out yesterday, and they were talking about how it's not going to reduce inflation.

It's not going to reduce the deficit.

In fact, it's going to add to the deficit.

It's not going to help the GDP.

In fact, it's going to hurt the GDP.

And they will raise taxes on the middle class, as they promised they would not do.

Yeah, the whole IRS thing.

Yeah, that's,

yeah,

that is coming out.

They're going to come after you because they have to.

This is what the CBO said yesterday.

Thank you for the timely update.

And by the way, the CBO is known for making things look better than they actually become.

So that fills me with,

we're in for a hellscape.

I will say, Glenn, I did hear uh some pretty important things about the irs and this is important um because they said before i don't know if you've ever called the irs before which i'm sure you have oh yeah no i i called them back in 1986 i'm still on hold okay

well that was the big selling point of this bill they said because they're hiring 80 000 new employees someone might answer the phone when you call well that is fantastic and you know what's really great is they're going to be so efficient you're not even going to have to call them They'll call and come visit you.

Anyway, this is all about the

United States government

has a, no, I shouldn't say that.

The United States president, the administration includes the Department of Education, Agriculture, commerce, all of it.

They all have

private armies.

Let me ask you, why does the Department of Agriculture

have

armed officers?

I mean, sure, sure.

I mean, the very well-known wars that go between the corn farmers and the Amish,

you know, when they when they get their extremist yogurt feud going on with the Amish, there's nothing that will quell that other than a United States Department of Agriculture Army.

They are developing things things and they are putting you into the extremist position.

Look at over in Europe,

they're already forcing the farmers to live on these ESG rules, which are, by the way, completely nonsensical.

That is not, that's not even happening.

This is a conspiracy theory.

These aren't the droids you're looking for.

They're already protesting and the farmers are being called the extremists.

Have you forgotten who grows your food?

Grows food.

No, I get my food from the supermarket.

Oh, okay, then don't worry about the farmers.

They are targeting anyone who disagrees with them as an extremist.

And this is why this special tonight on the Blaze TV is so important.

You have to understand

what is coming for you as a Christian.

Now,

as somebody who

is in a faith that's not the most popular,

I will tell you,

you're going to look at these days,

if you were, let's say, a Mormon or a Jehovah Witness, you're going to look at these times for those.

for those people as, oh, those days don't come back.

I mean,

it's not going to be easy to be a Christian soon

and it all starts with white Christian nationalism they are making Christians into extremists and they are lying about our faith Christians are the next one in lieu in line and your faith is now on trial but it's a it's a kangaroo court they're not calling any witnesses on the other side they're calling witnesses that agree with them

It is so misleading and so dangerous.

You need to understand

how they are painting Christianity in America.

That's what we're going to do tonight.

Show you where this all breaks down, give you the rebuttals to these things so you can share them with your friend.

And I didn't say friends.

I did say share it with your friend.

Because if you're actually a Christian today and you're willing to stand up with it, stand up for it, you probably have one friend.

But you need to be able to

answer and tell your friends and have them share with others.

This is an amateur smear campaign, but it is going to be relentless.

CNN came out with an article last week.

We're going to debunk that tonight.

And also, look at this one.

Catholics weaponized the Rosary.

From the Atlantic.

The AR-15 is a sacred object among Christian nationalists.

Now, you would ask yourself, what is a Christian nationalist?

Stu, if I asked you this,

I said, what is a Christian nationalist?

What would you say?

A Republican.

Okay, okay.

Wow, the brainwashing has worked even on you.

What would you say, honestly, what would you say a Christian nationalist is?

There's a vision of a Christian nationalist that basically is an idea of

an America that is built on Christian principles, but is closer really to a theocracy and is exclusionary toward other faiths.

Other races usually is included in that as well.

The idea of...

Can you give me a country in history that might be labeled a Christian nationalist country?

Not labeled, not actually one, but one labeled that.

An example that was named, I mean, certainly they liked to say that about uh hitler back in the day in germany of course it was completely ridiculous uh we've covered that many times we don't need to go back into it but uh hitler not not a christian not a fan of christianity wanted to end all of the churches uh was literally outspoken uh throughout his not only um uh comments commentary with close advisors but you know admitted much of this uh publicly that this was a long-term goal of fascism um but to wipe it out.

But let's call it Christian nationalism anyway, I think, is the approach

of the meeting.

So, Christian nationalism, they've defined this, and you'll find out all of this tonight at Blaze TV.

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But let me continue with this from the Atlantic.

The AR-15 is a sacred object among Christian nationalists.

Is it?

Now the the radical traditional Catholics are bringing a sacrament of their own to the movement.

On this extremist fringe, rosary beads have been woven into a conspiratorial politic and an absolutist gun culture.

You know, I have to tell you, I can remember...

I can remember Sister Siobhan and Sister Uno and Sister Julie as they would be whispering the rosary on their knees, I remember walking in to the church as a kid and the candles and the smell of the church and the incense, and they were there, and you could just barely hear them.

And I'd walk up behind them because I didn't want to disturb them.

But then one of them would hear me and they were surprised.

And all I heard was,

and they took their ARs out and they're like, stand down, stand down.

And I was like, oh my gosh, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, sister.

I'm sorry.

I didn't know.

Oh, they're so radical, those rosary people.

The armed radical traditionals have taken a spiritual notion that the rosary can be a weapon in the fight against evil.

Now, this is a new thing

because I'm pretty sure.

I mean, maybe it's just me.

I was raised Catholic.

I always

thought

the rosary and doing things like like praying

was a weapon in the fight against evil.

Yes, but now they're taking it literally.

It's a garot.

That's what it really is.

I've seen him.

I've seen him before.

Jason Bourne, I mean, they've changed it, you know, from reality, but the real Jason Bourne, when he goes and he chokes people out, He uses a rosary.

And what do you think the Pope is doing?

When he has to kill people, he uses a rosary.

Anyway, social media pages are saturated with images of rosaries draped over firearms.

How many times have you seen that?

I hate that.

This is the thing they do now to show a movement when they can't find one.

Like the other day, they were saying after the raid on the

Mar-a-Lago residence of Donald Trump, they said the words civil war were being tweeted once a minute.

Now, there are 400 million people on Twitter.

You're getting one tweet every 60 seconds.

This is not a news story, okay?

Any combination of words is being tweeted once a minute on Twitter.

Not

cheerleader.

No, yeah, you couldn't find that.

Nope.

It's not happening.

So ridiculous, but this is what they want to do.

All right.

So

here's here's something.

And I just want to point this out.

If you are a non-traditional Catholic theologian, so you're for this, you know, this new, more open, progressive, hey, everybody can be whoever they want to be, and we should marry everyone and everything else.

You should not be written about.

And you might want to reconsider your name.

The theologian Massimo Fagoli

has described a network of conservative Catholic bloggers and commentary organizations as the Catholic cyber militia that actively campaigns against LGBTQ and the acceptance of them in the church.

These rad trad, this is a new word.

Rad trad,

they're radical traditionalists.

These rad trad rosary as a weapon memes represent a social media diffusion of such messaging and they work to integrate ultra-conservative Catholicism and other aspects of online far-right culture the rosary in these hands is anything but holy says mr.

Fagoli wow it's like dr.

Seuss But for millions of believers, the beads which

provide for a sequence of devotional prayers

that have been always traditionally looked at as a source of strength now take on a new meaning.

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Matthew DiPerno, I have never met, don't know anything about him, but I have a very good friend that lives in Michigan who really watches things closely and says this is a very honorable man, a guy who is cut from our same cloth up in Michigan, but his opponent is

making all kinds of accusations.

And I honestly barely know the story, so I'm going to ask him some simple questions here.

And Matthew DiPerno is again running for a Michigan Attorney General.

He's the candidate there.

Matthew, how are you, sir?

I'm great, Glenn.

Thanks for having me on.

Sure.

Now,

let me

see if I have this right.

Your Democratic opponent, the current AG,

I don't know her name, but she claims that you are part of a conspiracy with others to steal and illegally analyze voting machines connected to the 2020 election.

She says five tabulators were taken to

hotels and or

BNBs in Oakland County where four others, not you, broke into the tabulators and performed tests on the equipment.

So you weren't trying to steal the, according to her, as I understand it, you were not trying to steal the election.

You were trying to perform a test on this in a hotel room after

you or others stole these voting machines.

Do I have the story right, and what is the truth?

Yeah, you have the story right.

The truth is that I, after the 2020 election, I filed a lawsuit in Michigan.

I received a court order allowing us to analyze

an election system and election equipment.

We per you know, my expert witnesses performed tests on machines,

and she now is coming forward, Dana Nessel, my opponent, the most corrupt attorney general in the country, making these allegations that she knows are totally false because she was my opposing counsel in the case.

She represented the Secretary of State in the case.

They know what the actual facts are.

They know this is untrue.

But right now,

the latest polling shows DuPerno plus one

as an advantage.

She's losing terribly.

She's got a 42% favorability rating.

She wants to put drag queens in every school.

And so she's come out with this story in order to try to discredit me.

Well, you had me at court order, so

let's move on.

So what is it that you are going to bring to the table and you will

clean up or change there as Attorney General?

Why should people vote for you?

Well, right now, Michigan has the highest crime rate

in decades.

We're now number 10 in sex trafficking.

We've got illegal fentanyl flowing across the borders, destroying families and killing children.

And our Attorney General and other rogue prosecutors across the state refuse to do anything about it.

It's time that we enforce the law.

I've been a practicing attorney for 25 years.

I practice constitutional law, have been involved in criminal cases as a defense attorney.

It's time to clean up our state.

It's time to enforce the law.

And it's time to start penalizing criminals.

That's what I'm going to do.

We have many other issues also in the state, a failing education system.

So we need to fix our state.

We need to bring businesses back.

And that's what we can do as attorney generals.

We can enforce the law, make

the state safe, and make it favorable for businesses.

Dana Nessel, my opponent, refuses to do any of that.

She simply wants to run on a social platform, bringing drag queens to our schools.

And it's terrible, the destruction she's caused in the state.

Now, if I have this right, in 2020, she was accused of weaponizing her office because

she went after anybody,

the SPLC, which we all know Southern Poverty Law Center, is a joke funded by George Soros.

She went after those groups that were called hate groups.

Any comment on that?

Well,

she's gone after people for religiously held beliefs.

The federal courts have smacked her down, saying she's weaponized her office against religious people.

They just recently, in a recent Michigan Supreme Court decision, dismissed all of the cases she filed in the Flintwater investigation, saying she weaponized her office against her political opponents and created an unconstitutional star chamber environment.

That's the court's words, not mine.

But what she does in the state is consistently go after her political opponents, like me, like others, and she refuses to go after anyone in her own party.

We have a video where she's come out and said she could not investigate Governor Gretchen Whitmer regarding the 5,000-plus nursing home deaths related to the COVID pandemic because they're friends.

She says, I have coffee with Gretchen Whitmer, so it's too difficult for me to investigate all of those deaths.

Wow.

So

how do you, I mean,

you know, Detroit, for one, and Michigan overall, not necessarily known for its clean government.

How do you intend on

being

Commissioner Gordon, if you will, the one guy that is standing up to this?

Well, that's a great question.

But what we've been doing in this campaign, and people can find me at duperno4mi.com or fightformat.com.

We've been pushing into these communities, into the Detroit area.

We've been talking about these

issues that affect the Chaldean population and the black population.

We talk about the high crime rate.

Nobody likes that.

We talk about

education.

Parents want a say in their children's education.

We're pushing for a parental rights act in this state.

And, you know, these are the issues that we're fighting about that people actually care about.

They don't want drag queens in every school.

And they're very vocal about it, and we're making great headroads into those communities.

How much of a block is she to

stopping this progressive?

Look, I don't hate drag queens.

I don't hate people.

Just please leave my children alone.

Leave my children alone.

When you're adult, do whatever you want.

But leave my children alone.

You are in a

wildly corrupt

state with unions and everything else.

What is she doing

to help further that?

And what specifically are you going to do?

Yeah, she's doing absolutely nothing to change the corruption in the state of Michigan.

We've actually been ranked at the very bottom of the list, 48th, 49th, and 50 as the most corrupt state in the Union, ranked by the Department of Justice.

So our Attorney General just adds to that dilemma.

She doesn't do anything to enforce the law.

That's a huge problem in the state.

We have these prosecutors who refuse to prosecute violent felonies anymore.

We're down to, in some areas, some counties, one-third of the police force

because these police, they they're nervous.

They're scared.

They know they can't make arrests unless they ask permission.

And we have more police under investigation right now by my opponent than any time in the state's history.

And when I'm in office, we're going to change that.

We're going to enforce the law.

We're going to prosecute violent crimes.

And, you know, we're going to make sure that we always support the police.

And our current Attorney General just, she despises that.

She hates the police.

She supports defund the police movement.

And her entire administration has been only about promoting LGBTQ and social issues in this state.

So we're talking to Matthew DiPerno.

He is running for the Michigan Attorney General Office.

Where do you stand on ESG?

Well,

we, you know, we're opposed to this ESG

program

entirely.

And that's what our opponent continues to push.

Environmental, social governance.

They push critical race theory.

They push all of this on our students and schools.

Right now in Michigan, if you want to renew your medical license, you have to go through critical race theory training.

You have to promote ESG

in this state.

It's terrible what they're doing in this state.

Listen, I've been investigated since I've started to run for attorney general.

You know, I've been a victim of this very same movement by

my bank.

You've been investigated by your bank?

Yeah, absolutely.

The more you get involved in in politics in the state of michigan the more you speak out against the corruption the more

these

institutions want to investigate us and that's what my opponent's doing right now when she's come out and says she's going to use taxpayer dollars

given to the attorney general's office she's going to use that money to investigate me in order to promote her own campaign.

That's the height of corruption, right?

And that's exactly what she's doing.

And that's, quite frankly, an illegal campaign finance violation, but nobody will do anything about it in the state of Michigan.

Matthew, how

tell me,

and not necessarily about you or the state of Michigan, but we have the IRS being weaponized almost every, no, I shouldn't say that.

It is a whole of government approach now.

Every single office and department is being weaponized.

The American people, I think, are beginning to wake up and see,

holy cow, FBI is out of control.

You know that in your state with the Gretchen Whitmire kidnapping case,

where are we if we don't get the right AGs?

And how long do we last like this?

Well, we don't last much longer if we get more attorneys generals like Dana Nessel in office.

We are heading down a road of socialism very quickly.

Dana Nessel has signed on to litigation

where Mexico has come into the United States to stop gun manufacturers from making guns.

Dana Nessel signed on to that radical litigation.

Dana Nessel supports

partial birth abortion up to the day of delivery at any time for any reason.

Many people will say

that partial birth abortion is murder.

Dana Nessel sees it as a path to happiness.

So we are going down a road of destruction.

They want to weaponize their offices to attack their political opponents.

And

that's the

sort of strategy right now.

If they can't

get polls,

they're going to take you out any way they can.

Matthew DiPerno, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I'm up against a tight clock.

You can go to his website, fightformat.com.

I'm telling you, the attorney generals are

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There is a new Puritan movement afoot in America, except it's not being done by the right or the Christians.

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Well, now there is the rise of the new Puritans.

I'm going to talk to Noah Rothman, who has just written a book about it.

the new

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Gosh, they're just such fun people.

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Noah Rothman, a guy who I think really gets it.

He is

just written the book, The Rise of the New Puritans,

The War on Fun.

Really?

Noah, welcome to the program.

How are you, sir?

Very well.

Thank you so much for having me.

I appreciate it.

You bet.

You bet.

So, Stu and I are in the midst of reading your book.

We haven't got it all the way to the end yet, but

I have to ask you,

do progressives know that they're almost embarrassingly unfun right now?

Do they know this?

No, they absolutely don't.

They would reject the premise, and they sort of recoil at the assertion that they're pursuing some sort of a moral framework, that they have imposed this moral framework on every aspect of life, especially the apolitical aspects of life.

They don't see themselves as less fun, less chill,

less accommodating than their parents and grandparents, but they most certainly are.

They are having less fun.

They're having less sex.

They're enjoying life less than their elders.

They're having less sex?

Oh, yeah, you haven't gotten to that chapter?

That's a good one.

No.

So that is my very salacious chapter on sex and booze.

It's titled Temperance.

All the chapters are organized around unimpeachable moral values because they are pursuing a moral ideal about how society should organize itself.

So when you think of progressives, you don't think they have sexual prescriptions, right?

But if you dig into the literature around the many proliferating sexual identities, it's not about self-gratification or self-fulfillment.

It's about the political program associated with these things.

This has to pursue and advance a political agenda.

And you couple that with the labyrinthine

consent requirements now in statute in places like California, but mostly in norms and college campuses.

And you have this unnavigable labyrinth that has been erected around consent, which is absent consent is obviously a crime.

But we've created now real legal and moral and social consequences if a cue is misread or a signal is overlooked or it's just human behavior intervenes in this process, this complicated process.

The result is less sex.

People are reporting, especially young people, are reporting, having much less casual intercourse than their parents did.

Okay,

I have to tell you, first of all, it is a religion.

What they're doing is a religion.

So you've got Puritans absolutely right.

And they are imposing it on all of us.

But I look at people who are like this and I think to myself,

How could you not

be just miserable if you believe all the things that they believe?

It's just a life of misery.

Yeah, they don't see themselves as miserable, but they are making their compatriots miserable.

Maybe nine out of the ten people I spoke with are

who would most of them wouldn't go on the record for fear of consequences saying the things that they actually think.

Which is weird.

Yeah, well, I mean, there are real social and professional consequences for going against this movement.

It's not a big movement, but it punches way above its weight.

And so these guys are Democrats.

They vote Democratic.

They wouldn't vote Republican with a gun to their head.

But they didn't get into the business of making delicious food and writing screenplays and broadcasting sports because they wanted to do politics.

They don't.

They've just been drafted into this movement, and it's sapping them of enthusiasm for their life's work, and they really, really resent it.

Noah, can you go through some of these?

You have so many great examples in the book of this type of thing.

The hummus place is one.

I'd like like to hear about the burrito truck.

Tell about the burrito truck.

A truck that was in the Pacific Northwest.

These two women went down to Mexico, fell in love with the food, interviewed chefs, picked up some recipes, brought it back to the Pacific Northwest, and it was a profound success.

They were very commercially successful.

In fact, a lot of the people who are targeted by this movement are successful.

And I think that their success engenders quite a bit of resentment.

But they brought it back to the Pacific Northwest and the media environment down there, which is beholden to this progressive set of ideas, just went about destroying the thing because they had stolen this heritage from

the hardworking people of Mexico.

They hadn't given them any credit.

They weren't giving them the proper remunerations they were due.

It's a very nebulous idea of

what they had violated, what prescriptions they ignored.

But this thing was destroyed.

These two women were driven out of business, and their burrito truck, which was fetted, which was loved,

was driven

out of business.

In part, I think also because it was so good, but they had violated some unspoken, unwritten ideal

about whatever cultural appropriation is.

It's very difficult to define.

But it's believed to be some form of theft, as though culture is a zero-sum game and that it has been commodified in some way.

When I read that and I thought about it, I had just seen the new Elvis movie.

Have you seen the new Elvis movie?

I have and I heard it's good.

It's very, very good.

But it taught me something about Elvis I didn't know.

I didn't know that he was so poor after his dad died that he and his mom lived in a black community in Memphis, which never happened.

He was like the only kid in this white kid in this black community.

So he grew up in that culture.

He grew up with the music.

That's why he moved the way he did.

And

at the time, the programmers of radio, many of them would have loved to play the black music, but they couldn't put a black man on the air.

And when they heard his music, it was the black culture and black music sung by a white guy.

And, you know, it shows B.B.

King and all of these legends who were friends of his going, man, take it, take it.

I'm glad people are listening to it.

Now you would look at that and it would be cultural appropriation.

And they would hate, and I think they probably do, hate Elvis and anybody like him because he was just stealing that.

No, he wasn't.

He was popularizing it.

He was breaking a barrier.

Yeah, popularizing it and creating synthesis.

And there is this idea abroad that synthesis in music and culture and cuisine is some sort of form of theft.

There's a racial essentialist element that's put to this that suggests that any creativity in creating works of art and amalgamating and synthesizing various influences into some finished product represents some form of attack on culture.

Even though what you just said is absolutely correct in art and food and in music, you're exposing new audiences to this thing.

You're creating a broader understanding and acceptance of these cultural traits, albeit perhaps amalgamated, not necessarily adulterated.

They confuse the two, probably deliberately.

But the expansion of and broadening of the exposure to these ideas, these cultural traits, used to be something that we would celebrate and accept as an unadulterated good.

It is not anything.

I know there was a guy who I grew up listening to on the radio.

He was very, very good.

His name was Charlie Brown.

He was originally at KJR in Seattle and then Cube.

And I studied at his feet.

I was lucky enough to work with him when I was very, very young.

And I watched him and I talked to him.

When I started doing my own show, I called him up and I asked him, hey, Charlie, can I steal this and this and this from you?

And he just laughed and he said, and I think this is true with almost everything because it's not, you're not living in a vacuum.

And he said, Glenn, you steal from me, you've stolen twice.

And that's what we don't understand, that it all is just kind of, that's where you get your inspiration and you take it and you make it your own and you move, not stealing things word for word, et cetera, et cetera.

Let me ask you, because I'm watching, I mean, I know

your IQ is a lot higher than mine.

And I don't know

if you're watching like the marvelous Miss Maisel, which I think is fantastic,

but it centers around this woman in the 1950s, early 1960s who wants to be a comedian.

And one of the running characters is Lenny Bruce.

And Lenny Bruce would absolutely be in progressive jail right now if he lived today.

And you had all of these great comedians that were there to push back on the man, whatever it was, they push back.

These people like Ricky Gervais

make it, I think, because they don't apologize and they don't stop.

Can you talk a little bit about the effect of apology?

and what's happening in

comedy?

Yeah, the very same

sentiments, policing of public morality that took aim at Lenny Bruce, at George Carlin, at Richard Pryor, are at work today.

The executors of this campaign are not on the right.

They used to be.

The tendency that saw

something that would corrupt you and degrade society and innocent cultural affair used to be a tendency native to the right, in part because we are all heirs to this puritanical tradition.

It has found a home in both political coalitions over the years.

When it comes to comedy, one of the things that you see now among this particularly puritanically inclined progressive is to emphasize the pain that someone had to endure in order for you to enjoy something as trite as a punchline.

You know, you see this in the fans of the comedian Hannah Gatsby, who's an anti-comic and who is funny when she wants to be.

She doesn't always want to be.

Sometimes she will build the same tension that would otherwise lead to a punchline and give you that release and doesn't break the tension, just lets you sit and marinate in it and absorb her pain.

And it may interrogate you about that joke that she told five minutes ago and ask you why you thought that was funny.

Why was my suffering funny?

And that's what they love so much.

They love the anguish.

They love the ardor because it is a sign of your

prudent understanding that suffering exists in this world.

And if you don't dutifully dwell on it every second of your life, you are sacrificing a moral mission to advance the progressive project and make the human experience just a little bit more tolerable.

This is a very puritanical ideal.

When it comes to

anti-go ahead.

Well, hang on, hang on, hang on.

I've got to take a quick break.

I want to get to the apology, and then I want you to explain a little bit deeper this anti-comedian.

I had never heard that term before.

anti-comedian.

And, you know, it's different than like Andy Kaufman, who just for his own entertainment would just make people wildly uncomfortable.

But that's a completely different,

look, as I understand it, we're talking to Noah Rothman.

He is the author of The Rise of the New Puritans, a great book.

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Noah,

I would love to do a podcast with you and spend at least an hour with you on this topic.

You've really nailed it.

The book is The Rise of the New Puritans.

Tell me about the apology.

So

when

we are often bombarded with demands that you apologize for your conduct, the apology provides you no absolution.

And that's where I differ from a lot of the very brilliant scholars who have called this a purely secular faith.

I don't see it as entirely a faith, because in a faith in the Western tradition, there is deism that expiates sin.

There can be no absolution.

for sin in this particular faith, because there is no deism.

And because it is such an all-encompassing social code, I liken it more to Puritanism, because Puritanism wasn't just a faith.

It wasn't just congregationalism.

It was a way of life.

It was a totalitarian philosophy by definition because it was total.

When it comes to the apology, the apology, as we've all observed,

makes you just a more delicious target and trains more fire on you.

And this isn't just true in comedy.

There's several...

examples of that in the comedy chapter, but there's a particularly interesting anecdote that I lead off the book with about a grocery, a grocer in

Minnesota that was, again, very popular, very successful.

It was vetted by Keith Ellison on the House of the floor of the House of Representatives, Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives.

Guy Fieri featured it.

So it turned out that the owner of this grocery had a daughter who in her youth, 14 and 18 respectively, made racially insensitive remarks online.

This was picked up by the online community that they attempted to force him to apologize and to make absolution for his sins.

He had to fire his daughter.

That was not good enough.

He pledged that she would devote herself to good works for the community.

That was not good enough.

Eventually, the holder of his lease terminated the lease because

that was the penitence that was deserving of the sin he had committed, the

careless parentage of a willful daughter.

And this is as moral a code as you could find.

It goes back to the founding of the country.

But when you are apologizing in any other tradition, you would find some absolution.

This particularly uncompromising tradition offers

no absolution for offenses against it.

It is, I will tell you, you're right about this as

a completely different kind.

You don't call it a religion I do.

I just think it's an

anti-Christ style religion.

There is no forgiveness.

And without forgiveness, we cease to function normally as a society.

You just can't live in a society where there is no forgiveness, where you're held accountable not only for everything you've ever done, but also anything your ancestors have done.

That's a pretty shallow pool of good people that can be swimming around.

Noah, thank you so much for being on the program today.

I'd love to have you back.

Love to do a podcast with you.

The book is The Rise of the New Puritans, Fighting Against

Progressives' War on Fun.

Noah Rothman is the author.

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Thank you so much.

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I think he's the best best attorney general in the country right now.

We're going to talk a little bit about ESG and the overreach from the federal government.

And I was just saying earlier, why does the

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Thank God they're finally taking a stand on these.

Damn Amish.

And I can say that.

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We'll give you more on that story tomorrow.

We have Sean Reyes on with us.

He is the Attorney General.

And I was asking Stu earlier today off the air, I've never ever gotten involved in attorney general races.

I've never, you know, I'm the attorney general and I'm running for my race in X state.

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yeah, okay, they'll find another show to be on.

I can't tell you how important the attorney generals are in our states.

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And if you don't have one that understands the Constitution and has a spine and will stand up for it, your state's going to be in trouble.

And Sean Reyes is joining us now

from the great state of Utah.

Hello, Sean.

Lost my.

Hey, Glenn, how are you doing?

Lost my hearing.

I'm good, Frank.

Can you hear me all right?

I can't hear anything.

We are having a little, some technical difficulties here.

Sorry about that.

Why don't you give us, as Glenn's kind of reconnecting here, give us a picture of.

Hey, Glenn, hello.

Can you guys hear me?

Okay, now we're not hearing anybody at all.

Okay.

Why don't we put him on hold and we'll come back to him here in a second?

We were going to talk to him about some of the ESG stuff going on and

all of the nonsense that has gathered around

this movement here in the past few months and years.

And really, it hasn't been something that I think most Republicans or conservatives had really followed at all over the past couple of years as it developed into something much, much larger.

You have a situation where we know, well, we can go back to Al Gore and we can find people talking about getting rid of the combustion engine so many years ago and something that seemed so completely impossible and futuristic

that it could never come.

And then you see the news yesterday that the Challenger and the Charger

from

you know the alt, you know, one of the main muscle cars you consider in the United States is going to be going all-electric here in just the next couple of years.

They're talking about the next versions of the Challenger and the Hellcat and the Red Eye and all their different versions of this

are going to be it.

They're going to be quote-unquote electric muscle cars after that.

This is where you're taking the Attorney General?

He's not here.

He can't hear anything.

So I'm trying to, I'm talking about ESG standards and how fast this has come.

You've missed missed much here, Glenn.

I've missed a lot.

I don't know what happened to my ears, but I can now hear.

And I'll try.

I'm sorry, audience.

I'll try to get this show back on the radar.

I was trying to discuss this.

We discussed this off the air before.

No, I did.

You cannot call an electric car a muscle car.

No.

No.

No.

No.

And most people don't understand

that all

cars,

any kind of combustion engine, for the most part, except for

it's not Ferrari,

might be Lamborghini.

Do you remember which one it was?

Oh, Bugatti.

Bugatti, yeah.

With an exception of Bugatti, almost every car will be electric.

Almost every car company is phasing the combustion engine out by 2030 to 2035.

So you won't have combustion engines anymore.

Well, that's a problem.

And that means you won't have gas.

So if you have an old engine, it's going to cost you probably $10 a gallon if you can get it to run it.

And they're getting rid of all.

That's not the free market.

That's not the free market.

Sean Reyes is now joining us.

I'm sorry, Sean, we had some technical difficulties.

Are you there?

Problem.

I'm here.

Can you hear me now, Glenn?

I can.

I can.

Sean,

I'm going to take a quick break here in just a second, and then we'll come back and have a longer conversation.

But

tell me why the attorney general's position is so critical in every state now

glenn we're the last line of defense to defend the constitution to protect people's liberties their property and especially with this administration executive orders coming out every single day that threaten our liberties trying to take away how we educate our kids, how we run our businesses.

Everything, Glenn, it rests on our ability to stand up for the rule of law.

And there's no one else in the position other than the attorneys general who are able to do that the way that we can through litigation, fighting back.

And, Glenn, we appreciate your support because you've been with us out there as we fought this administration at the border.

We've fought them in the courtroom and all across this great nation.

Well, I think you guys are amazing.

And I have met many, if not most or all of the Attorney Generals that are at least Republicans.

Some of them are okay, some of them are really good, some of them, eh,

but most of them are fighting hard against ESG, for one,

and fighting

against this bloated government that is out of control.

And I want to talk to you about that as it is in regards to ESG.

ESG is taking a double hit from the states that are doing it right, and that is the Attorney General and the state treasurer.

And

in Utah, the state treasurer is Marlo Oakes, who is taking a big swing.

And I want you to talk about that and what you've just done, which is, I think, the

real,

well,

I couldn't decide which one is the knockout punch, taking the money away or hitting them legally where they should be hit.

And we'll go with Sean Reyes on that.

And if you're an attorney general or you're you're you're anybody involved in politics, you need to listen to what he is talking about.

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We're talking to Sean Reyes, the Attorney General, and I think the best attorney general in the country, and we have a few really good ones,

leading the way here on ESG.

And we also have a treasurer.

I think the best treasurer in the country is from West Virginia on ESG.

However, he's only taking on the E and not the S and the G.

This is all important.

So let's look at ESG and what's happening happening

and how the attorney generals can approach it.

What are you doing, Sean?

Yeah, Glenn, thank you so much.

And I appreciate, we all do, your voice on this because you and I agree that this is one of the greatest existential threats to our liberty of our time.

And most people just don't understand

what ESG is.

It's China if we fail.

Absolutely.

And here's the thing, Glenn, at best, and when I say at best, it's all bad, but at best, it's a very dangerous, risky gamble with other people's money, with the American public's money, trillions of dollars of our pensions and our investments.

That's at best, but at worst, Glenn, it is an existential threat to the constitutional underpinnings of our republic because it undercuts the whole political process.

It hyper-politicizes the boardroom, and it makes political mercenaries out of fund managers.

Asset managers, historically, the prime prime directive, if you will, for them, their fiduciary duty, what the law requires is that they maximize shareholder value, that they bring returns back in a healthy and responsible way.

And ESG turns all of that on its head.

It is the progressives' way of totally undermining the political process because they can't beat us on policies at state

policy or at the federal level.

So here's what the state AGs are doing.

and I appreciate what the treasurers do, Glenn.

You mentioned them, they absolutely have helped us lead out on this.

They raise a strong voice and bring awareness, but what they can't do that we can is investigate, and with those investigations, then prosecute or litigate.

And all of those things are in the works right now.

I can't disclose everything that we're looking into.

There are rules about that.

I can't do that.

And it's not just

just you.

There are multiple states involved in this, correct?

Oh, no, no, absolutely not just Utah.

We are one of the leaders, but there are so many other states.

You're talking about Arizona, Kentucky, Texas, your home state of Texas, and the great Attorney General Ken Paxton there.

All of us working together.

We couldn't do it alone, Glenn.

And it's such a huge undertaking that we wouldn't try to do it alone.

We have to band together.

And it's not just the AGs.

It's not just litigation.

we need legislators to create better policy to push back and fight back on this.

And then we need fund managers, we need people like our friend, uh, Vivek Ramaswamy, to create alternatives so that people

there's a market solution.

All of these things are the solutions, but state AGs are standing at the forefront.

We're the tip of the spear.

We feel that burden and that responsibility, and we appreciate your prayers and all of your listeners helping

so.

When I said last night on stage, you happen to be there,

and I said, I think some enterprising attorney, there is a class action suit down the road because it's underperforming the S ⁇ P 500.

And this is retirement money.

So if I'm 50, 55, 60, 65,

I'm getting screwed right now.

And they know it.

And they say, well, this is a 10-year window.

Well, wait a minute.

I may not have 10 years for my investment.

What are you doing?

And they're violating their fiduciary responsibility because they want to affect politics.

Absolutely, Glenn.

You said it better than I.

They're taking your dollars and they're voting your dollars for their policies, net-zero orthodoxy.

We're talking about, they make it sound like it's inevitable, that this is all going to happen, and we all have to jump on board.

That's how they try to cloak

these very short-sighted investments.

These are not good investments.

Now, I do want to say, Glenn, because I know you and I agree, we ought to be good stewards of this earth.

And conservatives get short shrift, that we ought to be paying mind to how to protect our environment.

But we should not mortgage away the rest of our lives and our freedom in some silly effort to push one particular

brand of orthodoxy.

And again, that's how they treat it.

And they demagogue everyone, right?

Anyone who dares stand up against their orthodoxy, even Elon Musk, a person who's a tech titan, a great leader who's built his entire empire on a green approach,

a very responsible approach, they have demonized him with this ESG.

We just yesterday, as state AGs, pushed back against the SEC because they're looking for comments on a proposed rule, Glenn.

This rule would require fund managers, again, not to just worry about trying to maximize return for shareholders.

It's hard enough to do that, but now they want them to start reporting all of these ESG criteria.

It's what Standard and Poor's did, and that's why we in Utah let out pushing back against them, saying, no, no, no, you can't shame everybody into this.

This is not based on merit.

This is like sometimes I've called it corporate affirmative action.

It's not based on merit.

It's just an end that you want to perpetrate.

Anyway, Glenn, I know that you've got other guests and other things to talk about, but thank you so much for letting me get on with this.

I appreciate it, Sean.

Is there anything that the American people all across the country should do to be able to help guys like you?

What can they do?

Absolutely.

First of all, reach out to your Attorney General and express

some support for pushing back against this.

This has to remain a priority for us, but also get involved with your state legislature.

They need to pass better laws that we can then go out and enforce.

That's how the American people can get involved.

Educate yourself on ESG, it is a huge threat.

God bless you, Glenn Beck.

Thank you, Sean.

Sean Reyes, Attorney General, all of the Republicans, most of the Attorney Generals who are Republicans are on board on this, and they are a last line of defense and support your treasurer in your state as well if they are pushing back.

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